FULL SEND PODCAST - Tory Lanez | Ep. 149

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, guys, we have a pretty cool pod today. We got Tori Lane's calling in live exclusively from jail. I've been talking to him about this for doing this for quite some time, so I'm glad we're finally pulling it off. He's about to call in. Before we get into it, if you guys have not tried out the prize picks app, you've got to download it right now. You guys know me, I have tried every single app when it comes to firing on sports,
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Starting point is 00:01:32 i know we've been talking about doing this for a while has been a couple uh couple speed bumps i can't help it i'm in prison i don't know i don't know how much you see in there how much you're told but yeah that shit kind of went viral the other day i guess we were about to do this and there was like a riot or something it was a little it was a melee i wouldn't say a riot i think The riot is, like, from what I've seen, I think it's more like than, like, 10, 15 people is more so a riot. That was, like, a regular six on six. It's like a melee, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah. It's not a riot. How intense is it in there in, like, the area that you're in? Is that, like, a daily thing or, like, every week? Yeah, everybody fights every day. I mean, that's kind of, like, a normal thing in California. Like, a lot of things are just settled in fades, like, at the end of the day. Like, it's just like, oh, you fucked up on this.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Okay, cool, I need a fake. And it's just like, we get it, we get it cracking. And then sometimes, you know, everybody, sometimes it's just like, it's not just a one-on-one. It's like, I'm bringing my homies. Well, I'm bringing my homie. And it's a melee or it turned to, whatever, it turns it to, you feel me. Yeah, I feel you.
Starting point is 00:02:43 No, I saw you were like, you were mid-recording and then some shit went down in the background. Was that like a verse for the new album? Yeah, actually. I was just trying to, like, put some shit down. I've been recording this album since the other day when Ray had put that thing out for me because Ray basically put all my stuff out on Instagram because I can't really see what's going on,
Starting point is 00:03:07 you know, being from where I'm actually putting it out from. So when he posted it on Instagram, that was the actual day. I actually started the album was literally that actual day. And the reason why we even posted that was because, like, I just needed the reassurance from my umbrellas that they felt how I felt about the situation. Like, y'all know I'm more than capable, even though this is a very crazy task that has never, ever been done. Like, you have to think how this is, you know, everybody who says, you know, we've done music from prison or we've done music from jail,
Starting point is 00:03:44 usually it's like this over the phone shit sounding like yo this sucks like that's not what I'm doing here like this is this is the first ever in real time prison album an album that's recorded in prison for prisoners by a prisoner
Starting point is 00:04:04 in real time as a prisoner is going through his real time sentence and it's professional it's going to sound exactly like a Torrey Lane's album but just the pain is there, the hunger is there, the tears, the cries are there, it's a lot. It's a lot of emotion into it, but it's the first ever professionally recorded prison album. This has never been done before.
Starting point is 00:04:29 That's crazy. I don't know how much you want to reveal, but how did you guys crack the code on, like, the quality and making it sound so good? Well, we started originally from county jail, right? So when we was in county jail and I was working on the Alonat Prom Deluxe, there was a lot of things that we were trying at that point just through the GTL phone. And they had me in solitary confinement. And, you know, there's always this weird rumor where, like, you know, he gets one hour out of the cell a day. But I wasn't getting any hours out of the cell a day. I was in there 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And so because they knew that they were doing people harsh like that, they would put a pay phone in your cell. so I was on that phone all day just trying to see if there was different ways that I record or I could record and taking the feedback from my engineer and so really that was what kind of started the initial like okay we need to figure this out and figure out how this can work over periods of times and a lot of other elements that took into place like AI that can enhance the way that your voice sounds to clear it up through the phone it's a lot of things and then of course I have one of the greatest engineering teams of the world. Like, you know, John, Super Sane, Mike, I got a girl named Angie. Like, all of the engineers that I work with are geniuses. So it's like, together we just, you know, and I'm also an engineer myself. You know, I engineer my own thing. So there's things that I can hear when they can't hear it and vice versa.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And that's kind of how it works. I don't want to give you all my thoughts. But it's mainly just like me. getting as clean as take as I could possibly get, and then, you know, putting the extra things into it that my engineer kind of takes up at that point and does a lot of things to get my voice more clear and more transparent and, you know, high-end and bright. I know. I know you told me the other day, like, this is not some just album from jail. This is like a real deal album that's going to, like, compete with all your other shit, right?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Exactly. Like, I want this to be, and that's why I go so hard about it. It's not because I'm not trying to do the norm. I just want to do it impossible, but it can be on the level of a norm because where I'm at is impossible for me to be normal, if that makes sense. Where I'm at, I'm supposed to be strapped down. My hands are supposed to be behind my back,
Starting point is 00:06:55 which they are, but I want to show my things. I want to show the people who believe in me and are inspired by me that at this point in my life, like no matter what, and no matter what happens in your life, Like, we can do it, and we can beat the odds no matter what they throw us. And I'm the first walking testimony of somebody that is literally defined for odds right now.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's the grain. They don't even like, like, I'm buying it, you know, recording off a jail phone and coming with a professional album is unheard of it, brother. 100%. What made you want to, like, why right now? Like, I saw a video of you saying, like, Drake dropped, the weekend dropped his best shit. like now it's time for you to drop. Is this like, did they kind of like inspire you or like not pressure you to drop,
Starting point is 00:07:44 but like did that have anything to do with the timing? I would like to say, I think I didn't know that everybody was dropping. And I just felt like, look, man, like, yeah, I didn't know everybody was traveling, but the youth started, the weekend dropped, then farting and shake dropped together. And I was just like, wow, like everybody's putting out their best music right now. And, you know, it just felt like I needed to participate. But you know me, when I participate, I come to compete. So I'm not going to participate if I don't feel like I'm up to par to compete.
Starting point is 00:08:18 So at this standpoint, I'm just like, look, I see everybody's doing things. It's not necessarily that you guys are the sole reason why I'm doing this, but I do feel like the city is driving. So while I have my job, the rest of us, but beyond all of that, like there's always a silent competition between us all and everybody's coming to the arena it almost felt like you watch Pokemon and it was those episodes with Ashford go to the stadium and it was just like you just wanted him to come like a fucking it's like a fucking Toronto poker battle exactly it's like everybody came with some shit like you feel me like I'm not gonna
Starting point is 00:08:58 I don't know. Like, like, like, like, part of the next door, boom, he came with a fucking, with a fucking, uh, Bovisor, nigga, boom. Then you got Drake. He came with a motherfucking blasphoice, nigga. Then you got fucking, uh, weekend. He came with Charzard.
Starting point is 00:09:13 But totally got to come with a new two, niggas, you niggas. Yeah. Legend. You need, you need fucking, you need fucking Lugia. You need fucking Lugia or Sweekun. You know what I was saying? It got to be, it got to be. different. And so, and it's like, I want to be able to give that, that legend, if you will, that
Starting point is 00:09:34 legendary bird quality to music. Yeah. Even though my hands are tied behind my back, and that was why I wanted to do it. It was more like, guys, if you guys can have every single piece of equipment, if you could have every single piece of, of, of, of, of producers, writers, everything that is helping make a great album. And I'm in a cell, concrete walls surrounding myself, running fades back-to-back. I'm not turning down on phase, but running phase back-to-back
Starting point is 00:10:09 and doing takes over the jail phone. And if I can do that through all of my pressure for myself, it tells me that there's not an artist on this world that can fuck with you, and it's more so my own life. I need to prove it to myself. I don't care about it. anybody as far as what they think that's crazy what they think about me that that's not my goal i care
Starting point is 00:10:34 about what can i prove to myself because i got to live myself when the lights go off i got to look at myself in the mirror when everybody's gone so what can i prove to myself that's going to make me feel fulfilled with them myself don't care about the sales because we know at this point Kyle all of the sales that you see are are based off a very different thing it's not the same way like for instance and I don't mean any disrespect I love this music and I love this crap to the to the utmost but like we got like guys like the weekend where it's like his album just came out it sold 120,000 but to the world it sold 340,000 or wherever it was because he sold clothes with it the clothes sold an extra whatever it was
Starting point is 00:11:22 but his actual music sold 120,000 that's his latest price project. So at the end of the day, it's like, it's not about numbers to me at this point, because I think the weekend is one of the most phenomenal artists of our generation. But even for somebody like him to put out such a massive project time at time, but the beginning 120,000 for his type of sales, it shows you that it's not about the first week anymore. It's about who's really talented. And that's where the game is going. This whole thing about the sales and the da-da-da-da-da-da when you really break it down it's not about that it's about who's really fucking talented and who's making the best music that's what i want to compete
Starting point is 00:12:09 i don't care about the fake shit going on behind this image that everybody's doing and get boxed and all of those i don't care about that you know i care about shining with talent and the timeless music if that makes sense no 100% also guys really really quick we just restocked full send com with a bunch of new stuff we got new full send stuff some classic stuff super wearable super comfy we revamped the entire quality also we got a bunch of ufc fullsend stuff you guys have been going crazy for this so we have a bunch of new stuff on the website so go to fullsen com browse around check it out there's a bunch of new fire shit on there grab a piece rep full send let's get into the pod you're like the og of kind of like being blackballed by the industry too
Starting point is 00:12:49 i know you went like independent right not too long ago and i was used to see you'd have some trouble and some issues with the way that the music industry would work. What do you think about like with Drake and how the industry's kind of turned against him? Like you see videos now. I don't know if your boys tell you or you could see anything, but you can't like find a shit on Spotify or there's just like a whole bunch of sketchy shit going on. I see. I don't know if you have any thoughts on that or because you're kind of on the inside of
Starting point is 00:13:15 it too, right? The whole industry. I can't all the way speak to everything that's going on with Drake. You can have been the days and growing up. think that's his story itself. But I will say one thing. I'm proud of the stance of any artist that goes
Starting point is 00:13:31 against the bullshit that happens behind the scenes. Sometimes when things happen and we come out and we're like, yo, fuck the label. Or like, no, fuck the major. It's like, everyone's like, now this guy spiraling, all these business. But they don't know what's going on behind
Starting point is 00:13:47 the scenes, and there's a lot of dark things going on behind the scenes, and which is the reason why I went independent, because that niggas ain't getting me with none of that I'm not telling my soul I'm not doing none of that weird shit rituals and all that shit trying to get this guy going on
Starting point is 00:14:01 fuck out of it yeah no rituals for sure but there's a lot of weird things that go on behind the scenes and so it's very hard to be in a situation like Drake is going through right now where you're going against the whole thing you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:14:17 the machine yeah I understand that there's yeah I understand that there's a scrutiny me because it's like all right we only get 15 minutes at a time on Torrey's jail phone so we will be back momentarily we back yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:14:32 all right we back we finished that note on the industry yeah it's pretty much just a bunch of fuck shit going on and you don't want to sell your soul no no no no you just don't know you sound crazy I don't mean like I don't need in some sort of way where it's like
Starting point is 00:14:47 you're coming into some cold shit like that's not necessarily what I mean And I just mean, look, when it comes down to it, there is a lot of things that happen in the background of industries, especially music, in such a provocative place as it is, right? But the reality of the situation is I commend any artists that have the balls to go out and rage against the machine because as a man who did it myself, It is one of the most exhausting things that you can imagine. It's like going up against the richest and richest billionaire who have the most
Starting point is 00:15:30 richest and richest resources and you're by yourself, but you're saying it for their life, I have respect for anybody who does that. It's not just about Drake, but anybody. And I encourage artists, I'm not telling you to go start problems. I'm telling you that, you know, entire real relationships that you can have, wherever you do business with but at the same time don't hold your tongue for nobody
Starting point is 00:15:56 if you see fuck shit going on which happens in the background at some standpoint you have to say something or you're going to end up like everybody else and be a sheep in a place where it's full of wolves
Starting point is 00:16:12 and it's just it's not easy to be that so I commend the artists whether it be Jake or anybody else who will rage against the machine as long as they know they have the facts and the actual proof of that of what they're saying. Because it's not an easy thing to do regardless of how it looks. And I know people are looking at it from a street angle.
Starting point is 00:16:31 But, like, yo, we all do respect, like, this is not a street angle. And what Drake is doing, no matter how you want to put it, he's really doing this for the rest of us artists. Because the reality of it is if one man finally comes down and says, yo, fuck me. And the rest of us do it? A revolution starts. So it's either you look at it as he's going to start a revolution
Starting point is 00:16:57 or you look at it as, you know, it's just Drake doing some shit and he's just trying to do some shit and you feel like he's doing this because he lost a battle. But being a man that knows him and speaks to him on a day-to-day basis, I shouldn't say day-to-day, I don't talk to him every day, but a man that speaks to him regularly, it's like that nigger is not no dumb nigger, bro. you're a very smart individual
Starting point is 00:17:21 he's like a war general to make it that's very patient and sometimes when you make certain moves it's not going to make sense at that moment but the grand scheme of what he's doing is so smart that when it comes into full fruition that's when you're going to be like
Starting point is 00:17:40 oh I get it now you know so if you can't see it at at a certain standpoint all I tell people to do is just let Tom be Tom and whatever it's going to turn it to, it'll turn it to whether you're impressed by it or not. One song you did while you're in there, the feature on DDG song, that was a fucking fire-ass verse. Is that where you're kind of speaking to?
Starting point is 00:17:59 Or what did you mean when you said, like, I hope they don't come from me the way they came for Drizzie? Nah, I was just saying, like, straight up, like, look, here's the reality, bro. I come to compete. When it comes to my craft, I'm here to compete with anybody. I don't give a fuck who you are, what you got going on. Like, if we're here to compete for music, I'm here to the house. You feel me? And at the end of the day, like, that wasn't, like, a lot of people thought that was, like, a Kendrick diss. It wasn't a Kendrick this. It was an anybody this. Like, I respect everybody crap. I love what everybody does with date with their stuff. But I'm going to tell you right now, like, I love to compete. Like, I love to go off the bar with you so I can disrespect you and humiliate you because this is what I do. And at the end of the day, like, yes, I can't wait for 20,
Starting point is 00:18:49 niggas pause no homo to come at me niggas because at the end of the day it's like oh i have the type of tenacity to finish every one of you niggins it's not a thing to me you know what i'm saying like i almost wish sometimes i wish i could have jumped in jersey shoes and just and did the beef for him you know what i said regardless like you feel me but it's just like that's how i feel about the situation it's not it's not like i was talking to anybody specific i just don't like, yo, I'm here to compete. You just love to get in there. I know, I know you.
Starting point is 00:19:23 You just love to fucking get in there. I love it. That's my life. I love it. This is what music is about. Like, it's what rap is about. It's about competing. Like, and when it comes to that, like, play with me.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I love it. Let's go. We've seen all the IG lives and the way that you've, like, recorded stuff in the past. Like, you can be super quick with it. Well, you'll just get in the booth and lay down, like, fire right away. But I'm wondering, since you have more time, is there any difference with this album where you're, like, doing more writing shit? Are you just hopping on the jazz? jail phone and just cooking
Starting point is 00:19:51 like you did in the past. I'm just kidding. I ain't go lie, I was just getting on the jail phone and I was just going. Like, how if I feel that morning, that's just how I'm going. And that's the thing about this project.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's like, this is real life, like my real emotion. I don't give a fuck if I cry on that fucking jail phone, I don't care. Like, nigga, as long as I get it on that mic,
Starting point is 00:20:15 that's all I care about. This is real life documentation of history. It's never going to be a person that's going to do this like me. That's crazy. Really think about this. Okay, before I say anything, let me ask you a question. I know you're interviewing me, but let me interview you for a small second. What is the most memorable prison song or album or anything that you can remember that was made in prison?
Starting point is 00:20:38 What is the most memorable thing that you can remember? Everyone's probably going to comment some shit and call me an idiot for not saying it, but I personally don't know. Like, nothing jumps off the page for me. because nothing jumps into your mind immediately. Yes, there's going to be people in the comments that are going to say, well, Draco did it and fucking Bobby Schmurter and Sean. But it's like, guys, these guys went on a phone call and just rapped. They didn't have to go through, yo, what are the presets that we need
Starting point is 00:21:09 to turn this jail phone call into full high-end vocals that sound like I'm in the studio so that this mic can now become my studio. How do we do that? There is a way. That's what I did that is different than the average person that they're gonna bring up in the comics. The reason why you don't have anything to bring up right now is because nobody did it.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Nobody did it. Nobody did it to the point where it was so memorable that it was like, wow, this guy did it. This is what this is, Kyle. Fuck me being Torrey Lanes. Fuck me being the artist that is in
Starting point is 00:21:58 his situation. Like, just take this for face value. Remove Tori Lanes. Let's say I was a guy named Cheddar Bob niggas for the sake of conversation. I was Cheddar Bob, bro. And I came to jail and I said, yo, I'm Cheddar Bob releasing the first ever professional prison
Starting point is 00:22:14 recorded album. At that standpoint, I'm going to look at Cheddar Bob and be like, I don't care who he is. That is revolutionary if he gets that accomplished. That's what I'm accomplishing. And I'm not just accomplishing it for me. I'm accomplishing it for everybody who comes after me that goes to prison and feels like their dream is cooked.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Like when we come to prison, they treat us like we're dead. We're not like you. Kyle, I'm sorry. We're just not. We are the forgotten. We are the mistreated, and no one cares because they're not here to see it. And the average motherfucker in prison does not have the resources to show it for the world. This album is the first representation of a raw and vivid view of prison in real time.
Starting point is 00:23:15 You understand? Yeah. It's very different. This is a historical moment that will never, ever in life come again. I pray that this does inspire the youngians that's after me. God forbid that he has to go to prison. But this is the first of its kind, Kyle. This has never been done ever.
Starting point is 00:23:38 So fuck me being 40 lanes. Just for the standpoint of like, I need to hear what that sounds like because it's never been done. and I'm going to give you such a vivid picture of what prison and incarceration is, especially in California. I'm going to give you that vivid picture, and you're going to go through my prison experience with me. What do you make of this, like, chapter of your life? Because it is just a chapter at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Are you a guy that believes everything happens for a reason, and, like, you were kind of meant to go through this for some reason, or how do you look at it? I know for a fact, this is God's friend. And if I could do it any other way, I know this is not going to make sense with so many of my viewers, and they're going to be like, they're going to what? But I genuinely feel, like, if someone came to me and said, yo, you can give back the prison thing, not prison thing, but if you give back your prison sentence and whatever the case is,
Starting point is 00:24:44 just go back to life how you were living it right then and there when you were in the case and you could claim out victorious, I wouldn't take it like that. I wouldn't take it like that. I know my victory is bigger. I've always known my victory is bigger, and I always known that regardless of everything, God is going to make me come out victorious in me. However, regardless of how big I knew this was going to be, I've always been at the standpoint of, I'm not going to lie, I had to be here.
Starting point is 00:25:14 because the way that I was actually moving in life at that point of my life, I was moving so fast that I would not be alive if I did not come to jail. I swear to God, I would not be alive, brother. And God gave me the blessing of sitting me down. And that's not going to make sense to a lot of my fans. But I am so thankful for what God did for me in this time. because the man that I am right now is you can't compete with him
Starting point is 00:25:50 his mind is sharp his brain is sharp his ideas are heightened God is moving through the man that I am right now in such an exciting way that I can't even fathom what he has coming for me
Starting point is 00:26:10 and it makes me so happy. That's why I can't like my I have an ear to ear smile right now because I'm so excited for what God has for me because now that I am the man that he made me to be in a man that he wants me to be now I can finally receive the blessings that I'm supposed to receive and I was never going to get these blessings had I been moving how I was moving before I to jail. So this is the biggest blessing of my life despite the pain, despite the tears, despite the problems. My enemies thought that when they put me in prison, they said that this was going to be the thing that silenced me and shut me down and finally stopped me.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Little did they know they only ignited a fire. It was an endurable fire that they would never in life be able to pain and they didn't understand that but now that i'm here i'm just like kyle this is god sent and so to answer your question yes like i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't give this this part of my life back for nothing i know for a fact that this was with a purpose 100% that's awesome bro makes me happy to hear yep yes sir no that's bro that honestly makes me really happy to hear you sound like you're in a great place and bro yeah like like i told you before you you've always inspired me and you're inspiring me further now just the way that you're just always been a fighter bro every stage of your career you've
Starting point is 00:27:53 always been an absolute fighter and i know that inspires a lot of people like i don't know how much you see or how much you're told but there's so much support for you online like everything i read everything i see i don't know if you you saw anything with um we had yeah we had aden on last week too and he showed up in the free tory shirt and we were talking about that talking about some of the new evidence how does that make you feel to like hear all the support you're getting aiden i love that kid man like that's my real brother like you know what i'm saying and i think we went through what people don't understand about me and aiding is like we both have these weird like behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:28:34 like you fucked up like upbringings and like we've been there for each other in times that other people aren't and it's like I really love Aiden, bro. That's my brother bro. I really cry real tears about Aiden like as far as like him being a person that
Starting point is 00:28:50 just represented me so hard like that shit means so much to me though like because the thing is that people understand like y'all niggas can can DM me and when Ray shout out to my nigga Ray but when Ray reads me the message and he tells me
Starting point is 00:29:07 oh yeah I say this and third it's like yo I feel it but nigga don't tell me none of that shit and don't think that you got this pass with me because yo you came and and said yo free toy in my inbox nah nigga go shout that shit out to the world if you feel that way
Starting point is 00:29:22 nigga don't tell me no shit about like nigga how you feel and oh yeah your toy you know I got you under any circumstances but you're doing it behind the scene The reason why I respect Asian Because regardless of all the gangster niggas And I put that with a quote on quote And another quote unquote
Starting point is 00:29:39 Regardless of all the quote unquote Real niggas That are supposed to be real niggas And real street niggas And all this I'm saying all this With quotes, nigger My quotes of like Playboy bunnies right now The way I keep putting the quote signs up, nigga
Starting point is 00:29:53 It's like like All those people Were scared They were scared to say how they choose felt because they come to me and we have long hour long conversations on how we all feel like y'all now we know you're innocent because of this after and this and they're screaming and crying and saying i can't believe they got you like this but when it comes to public time it's like nobody's saying what they really feel i've even seen people say the opposite of what
Starting point is 00:30:22 they feel the opposite of what they told me because it was benefiting to them at that time and that's sweet to me. And I love all my niggas, of course, 100%. But it's a lot of, and I have to say, like, it's fucked up. There's a lot of black people, my nigger, that, like, have done fake-ass shit to me and say, hey, X, Y, Z, da-da-da-da-da-da. And Aidan Ross, this white boy who, remember,
Starting point is 00:30:48 white people don't like to go against black culture because, we'll eat child niggas up. I play with us. But the reality of it is, it's like he went all against black culture, like it's not about a coach this is my brother and i don't care about what you're talking about until he's free i'm going i'm getting my stance and that's why i respect him over so many niggers that we quote on cool put this real nigger tag on aden is a real nigger
Starting point is 00:31:13 i know why he's a real nigger because he's an honorable man and i want to say this on your podcast for any young niggas listening to this everybody talks about real nigger this and real nigga that and that's the word i gotta be a real nigga a real nigga a real nigga is not defined because of how many bodies he has how many times he buses gun how many times he's in the street you know what a real nigga is kyle a real nigger is somebody who takes care and supports and provides for his family and make sure his family and his loved ones are taking care that and no matter what the world is feeling he's going to stand on it to take care of his loved one.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Indian Ross is a real nigger. I just want to make sure that that's 100% understood from my mouth. You feel me? I want to make sure I said that. One second.
Starting point is 00:32:10 One second, one second, brody. Hey, call suit suit in. Calls who in? I don't got no mail, right? I do or I don't? Hold on a second cop Got my mail real quick
Starting point is 00:32:29 Y'all got me mid-in-view You know what I'm saying? Not Super Smash again Hey yo Leon You want to say something For the world Hey you want to say
Starting point is 00:32:37 Hey three You want to tell them for you? Screaming out oh Hey Hey do you want to get anything in the fourth
Starting point is 00:32:47 podcast? You want to get anything I'm going to All right, my bed, I had to get my mail. All right, come on, go ahead. No, I was going to say, no, you're right, bro. Aidan's a loyal last guy for sure. Very good guy, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And that's all I was trying to say is just like, for me, bro, I've always been a person that at the end of the day, like, I respect real people and I'm happy for real people in my life. and each one of those people that I'm very happy for having my corner that's all it is 100% I love Aiden he's always been there
Starting point is 00:33:24 to support us too so what is the status of the case right now I don't know how much you could talk about it but I know we saw I think you guys submitted for like
Starting point is 00:33:34 factual innocence is that the word and now the court is considering it can you can you give us like an update on where it's at
Starting point is 00:33:43 all right so I'll break this down so it can make more sense because I know a lot of people were, like, confused about this, but this is what it is, right? And I want the viewer to just really, like, whoever you are, whether or not you're on the other side or you're on our side or regardless, I just want us to think in just logical sense,
Starting point is 00:34:05 okay, for, like, for real, just logical sense. I'm in jail right now for 10 years, my crime that they charged me with, is carrying a concealed firearm and assault with a semi-automatic, which is a handgun or whatever it is. As long as it's a new gun, it's a semi-automatic. As long as it don't got the revolve, it's labeled a semi-automatic. So they gave me 10 years because, I mean, because of the use of a firearm, assault with a firearm, right? So I wanted to just think here, and this is what our factual innocence writ that we sent to the appellate court was about. We said this, and our argument was this.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Listen. If there is a man, America, just listen to this. If you are a person and you are being convicted and sent it to 10 years in prison because of the use of a firearm, something needs to connect you to this firearm. Am I right or wrong? Correct. Correct. That sounds correct.
Starting point is 00:35:12 In order for you to be guilty of this, something needs to connect you to this. Now, I need you to understand now my facts, not my opinion, not my theory, my facts. There is literally four contributors on this suspected gun. 90% contributor on this gun is a male, and the rest of the percentages of this gun are two females and another male. none of those four people are my DNA so I am 100% excluded
Starting point is 00:35:55 not in conclusion like they said when I was in trial I'm 100% excluded from this gun when it comes to DNA my fingerprints are 100% excluded from the magazine from the gun from the bullets
Starting point is 00:36:16 from anything that has to do with this gun Cedar Sinai Hospital with the help of LAPD Los Angeles Police Department for those who don't understand these abbreviation together they have put on my discovery that we have lost the bullet fragments
Starting point is 00:36:35 well if you lost the bullet fragments then you can't even attach this gun to the alleged bullets that allegedly hit the victim. So y'all mean to tell me, you don't even have, number one, you don't have the DNA. You have a hundred percent excluded person off of DNA. You have a person that has literally zero handprints on this gun, on their magazine, on any
Starting point is 00:37:04 of the bullet casings or chambers. You don't even have the bullets to match to this gun, to say that these bullets were even shot out of the gun that you guys supposedly recovered. And then on top of that, the gun itself is sealed in L.A. County so we can never, ever grab the gun and do any retesting. The LAPID made sure to seal the gun so that there would be no retesting on this gun. When we went into court and we put these things in and said, hey, like, we're factually innocent due to these facts, the court said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:37:40 we're going to consider that because there's good reason appearing on what you're saying all of these things check out and i want to explain something about the appellate court the appellate court is never going to give you a judgment until they fully have read thoroughly through what you're saying to make sure that it's true because their judgments are after conviction so it's like you've already been found guilty legally by a peer group of 12 people. So it's like we really should not even be like everything they said at face value is supposed to be what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:18 But they go thoroughly to see if there's a mistake. And in the mistakes that they saw, they said, hey, we see that there's an issue here. We see that there's good a reason here and we're going to consider this. That was the last thing that actually happened. So this is all new evidence, though? Like the four people's DNA on the gun, that wasn't, that wasn't in the, the first trial, whatsoever. So in the first trial, they kept going, they told me I was inconclusive, but I knew that
Starting point is 00:38:47 was always a lie. I was like, I never touched this gun. So it went from now inconclusive to now completely excluded. Yeah, once I was in jail, I asked my lawyer, like, can you get a DNA specialist to do this gun again? I know I never touched this gun. And then when he did it again, he was like, oh, I see what happened. They manipulated your DNA.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And basically, it was almost, this is what they did. It's like you ever had to wait for a video game and you're waiting for it to load. So DNA, the way that they did it, is like, okay, if I let it load 60%, it's not going to give me the full conclusion yet. So once they loaded it like 60 to 70%, it was like, yo, it's ain't conclusive. But how they let it go the whole way, they would see it was 100% excluded. But they were like, yo, the fact that it's in occlusive and not a match, let's just leave it here because this is the best we're going to get.
Starting point is 00:39:40 So they stopped my test Before it even got to the finish result Therefore I went to court thinking That you guys only have an ink inclusive test But I always knew in my heart This is impossible I never touched this gun That new fact alone is insane Just the fact that it went from inclusive to exclude it
Starting point is 00:40:01 And there's four people's DNA on the gun And none of them are years is fucking That should be enough for them to open up the factual innocence like now? Brother, my judge, my judge, Judge Herringford, Judge David B. Herringford, I'm not going to disrespect him. He's, you know, at the end of the day, he's still an honorable judge. He's a black man at that.
Starting point is 00:40:27 But I watch this man literally look at me and say, so let's just say, I'll take the DNA evidence to be real. And I'll say that it's true. He said this on the record, by the way, through my transcripts. He says, I'll take this. I'll take the DNA evidence to be true, but I'm going to say this. At the end of the day, even if I take it to be true, that's not a big factor in this case. That's not why he got convicted.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Brother, what the fuck are you talking about? My nigga, what the fuck is you talking about, my nigga? Because that's the whole case. You feel me? But, again, that's what it was, and that's what I had to, that's what I've had to endure during this time. And so it is what it is. I'm not, again, I'm not. hour about anything i know that god has a plan in me and in this so this is what it is 100% all right
Starting point is 00:41:18 brother well i don't know how much time you have but i just wanted to fucking get you on here and say that we're behind you we're supporting you and we appreciate you coming on and so when's the album when's the album coming can you say let the world know the album is coming March 7th i'm gonna make sure it's finished by that time that's all we got March 7th all right Tori Lane's from jail. I mean, he did three jail calls in a row. Buddy in the back was probably fucking starting to knock for the jail phone. So, no, we love Tori.
Starting point is 00:41:47 We appreciate him doing this, especially from jail. We're rooting for him. That guy's been inspiring me. I've been following him since I was living back in Canada, too. We're both from Toronto area. So it was really cool that he could call in. Free Tori, man. Drop a thumbs up on the episode.
Starting point is 00:42:02 We'll see you guys next week.

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