FULL SEND PODCAST - Tory Lanez | Ep. 149
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All right, guys, we have a pretty cool pod today.
We got Tori Lane's calling in live exclusively from jail.
I've been talking to him about this for doing this for quite some time,
so I'm glad we're finally pulling it off.
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episode here we've been talking about doing this a while me and tory uh the last few months so
we got tory calling in um exclusively on the phone right now tori how we doing
you're doing great man i'm on top of rising how you're feeling good brother chilling chilling
i know we've been talking about doing this for a while has been a couple uh couple speed bumps
i can't help it i'm in prison i don't know i don't know how much you see in there how much
you're told but yeah that shit kind of went viral the other day i guess we were about to do this
and there was like a riot or something it was a little it was a melee i wouldn't say a riot i think
The riot is, like, from what I've seen, I think it's more like than, like, 10, 15 people
is more so a riot.
That was, like, a regular six on six.
It's like a melee, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's not a riot.
How intense is it in there in, like, the area that you're in?
Is that, like, a daily thing or, like, every week?
Yeah, everybody fights every day.
I mean, that's kind of, like, a normal thing in California.
Like, a lot of things are just settled in fades, like, at the end of the day.
Like, it's just like, oh, you fucked up on this.
Okay, cool, I need a fake.
And it's just like, we get it, we get it cracking.
And then sometimes, you know, everybody,
sometimes it's just like, it's not just a one-on-one.
It's like, I'm bringing my homies.
Well, I'm bringing my homie.
And it's a melee or it turned to, whatever, it turns it to, you feel me.
Yeah, I feel you.
No, I saw you were like, you were mid-recording and then some shit went down in the background.
Was that like a verse for the new album?
Yeah, actually.
I was just trying to, like, put some shit down.
I've been recording this album
since the other day when Ray had put that thing out for me
because Ray basically put all my stuff out on Instagram
because I can't really see what's going on,
you know, being from where I'm actually putting it out from.
So when he posted it on Instagram,
that was the actual day.
I actually started the album was literally that actual day.
And the reason why we even posted that was because, like,
I just needed the reassurance from my umbrellas that they felt how I felt about the situation.
Like, y'all know I'm more than capable, even though this is a very crazy task that has never, ever been done.
Like, you have to think how this is, you know, everybody who says, you know, we've done music from prison or we've done music from jail,
usually it's like this over the phone
shit sounding like
yo this sucks
like that's not what I'm doing here
like this is this is the first ever
in real time prison album
an album that's recorded in prison
for prisoners by a prisoner
in real time as a prisoner
is going through his real time sentence
and it's professional
it's going to sound exactly like
a Torrey Lane's album
but just the pain is there, the hunger is there, the tears, the cries are there, it's a lot.
It's a lot of emotion into it, but it's the first ever professionally recorded prison album.
This has never been done before.
That's crazy.
I don't know how much you want to reveal, but how did you guys crack the code on, like, the quality and making it sound so good?
Well, we started originally from county jail, right?
So when we was in county jail and I was working on the Alonat Prom Deluxe, there was a lot of things that we were trying at that point just through the GTL phone.
And they had me in solitary confinement.
And, you know, there's always this weird rumor where, like, you know, he gets one hour out of the cell a day.
But I wasn't getting any hours out of the cell a day.
I was in there 24 hours.
And so because they knew that they were doing people harsh like that, they would put a pay phone in your cell.
so I was on that phone all day just trying to see if there was different ways that I record or I could record and taking the feedback from my engineer and so really that was what kind of started the initial like okay we need to figure this out and figure out how this can work over periods of times and a lot of other elements that took into place like AI that can enhance the way that your voice sounds to clear it up through the phone it's a lot of things and then of course
I have one of the greatest engineering teams of the world.
Like, you know, John, Super Sane, Mike, I got a girl named Angie.
Like, all of the engineers that I work with are geniuses.
So it's like, together we just, you know, and I'm also an engineer myself.
You know, I engineer my own thing.
So there's things that I can hear when they can't hear it and vice versa.
And that's kind of how it works.
I don't want to give you all my thoughts.
But it's mainly just like me.
getting as clean as take as I could possibly get, and then, you know, putting the extra things
into it that my engineer kind of takes up at that point and does a lot of things to get my
voice more clear and more transparent and, you know, high-end and bright.
I know. I know you told me the other day, like, this is not some just album from jail.
This is like a real deal album that's going to, like, compete with all your other shit, right?
Exactly. Like, I want this to be, and that's why I go so hard about it.
It's not because I'm not trying to do the norm.
I just want to do it impossible,
but it can be on the level of a norm
because where I'm at is impossible for me to be normal,
if that makes sense.
Where I'm at, I'm supposed to be strapped down.
My hands are supposed to be behind my back,
which they are,
but I want to show my things.
I want to show the people who believe in me
and are inspired by me that at this point in my life,
like no matter what,
and no matter what happens in your life,
Like, we can do it, and we can beat the odds no matter what they throw us.
And I'm the first walking testimony of somebody that is literally defined for odds right now.
It's the grain.
They don't even like, like, I'm buying it, you know, recording off a jail phone
and coming with a professional album is unheard of it, brother.
100%.
What made you want to, like, why right now?
Like, I saw a video of you saying, like, Drake dropped, the weekend dropped his best shit.
like now it's time for you to drop.
Is this like, did they kind of like inspire you or like not pressure you to drop,
but like did that have anything to do with the timing?
I would like to say, I think I didn't know that everybody was dropping.
And I just felt like, look, man, like, yeah, I didn't know everybody was traveling,
but the youth started, the weekend dropped, then farting and shake dropped together.
And I was just like, wow, like everybody's putting out their best music right now.
And, you know, it just felt like I needed to participate.
But you know me, when I participate, I come to compete.
So I'm not going to participate if I don't feel like I'm up to par to compete.
So at this standpoint, I'm just like, look, I see everybody's doing things.
It's not necessarily that you guys are the sole reason why I'm doing this,
but I do feel like the city is driving.
So while I have my job, the rest of us, but beyond all of that,
like there's always a silent competition between us all and everybody's coming to the arena
it almost felt like you watch Pokemon and it was those episodes with Ashford go to the stadium
and it was just like you just wanted him to come like a fucking it's like a fucking Toronto
poker battle exactly it's like everybody came with some shit like you feel me like I'm not gonna
I don't know. Like, like, like, like, part of the next door,
boom, he came with a fucking,
with a fucking, uh,
Bovisor, nigga, boom.
Then you got Drake. He came with a motherfucking
blasphoice, nigga.
Then you got fucking, uh,
weekend. He came with Charzard.
But totally got to come with a new two,
niggas, you niggas. Yeah.
Legend.
You need, you need fucking, you need fucking Lugia.
You need fucking Lugia or Sweekun.
You know what I was saying?
It got to be, it got to be.
different. And so, and it's like, I want to be able to give that, that legend, if you will, that
legendary bird quality to music. Yeah. Even though my hands are tied behind my back, and that was
why I wanted to do it. It was more like, guys, if you guys can have every single piece of
equipment, if you could have every single piece of, of, of, of, of producers, writers, everything
that is helping make a great album.
And I'm in a cell, concrete walls surrounding myself,
running fades back-to-back.
I'm not turning down on phase,
but running phase back-to-back
and doing takes over the jail phone.
And if I can do that through all of my pressure for myself,
it tells me that there's not an artist on this world
that can fuck with you,
and it's more so my own life.
I need to prove it to myself.
I don't care about it.
anybody as far as what they think that's crazy what they think about me that that's not my goal i care
about what can i prove to myself because i got to live myself when the lights go off i got to look at
myself in the mirror when everybody's gone so what can i prove to myself that's going to make me
feel fulfilled with them myself don't care about the sales because we know at this point Kyle
all of the sales that you see are are based off a very different thing it's not the same
way like for instance and I don't mean any disrespect I love this music and I love
this crap to the to the utmost but like we got like guys like the weekend where it's like
his album just came out it sold 120,000 but to the world it sold 340,000 or
wherever it was because he sold clothes with it the clothes sold an extra whatever it was
but his actual music sold 120,000 that's his latest price
project. So at the end of the day, it's like, it's not about numbers to me at this point,
because I think the weekend is one of the most phenomenal artists of our generation. But
even for somebody like him to put out such a massive project time at time, but the beginning
120,000 for his type of sales, it shows you that it's not about the first week anymore. It's
about who's really talented. And that's where the game is going. This whole thing about
the sales and the da-da-da-da-da-da when you really break it down it's not about that it's about
who's really fucking talented and who's making the best music that's what i want to compete
i don't care about the fake shit going on behind this image that everybody's doing and get boxed
and all of those i don't care about that you know i care about shining with talent and the
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let's get into the pod you're like the og of kind of like being blackballed by the industry too
i know you went like independent right not too long ago and i was used to see you'd have some
trouble and some issues with the way that the music industry would work.
What do you think about like with Drake and how the industry's kind of turned against him?
Like you see videos now.
I don't know if your boys tell you or you could see anything, but you can't like find
a shit on Spotify or there's just like a whole bunch of sketchy shit going on.
I see.
I don't know if you have any thoughts on that or because you're kind of on the inside of
it too, right?
The whole industry.
I can't all the way speak to everything that's going on with Drake.
You can have been the days and growing up.
think that's his story itself.
But I will say one thing.
I'm proud of the stance of any
artist that goes
against the bullshit that happens behind
the scenes. Sometimes
when things happen and we come out
and we're like, yo, fuck the label.
Or like, no, fuck the major.
It's like, everyone's like, now this guy
spiraling, all these business.
But they don't know what's going on behind
the scenes, and there's a lot of dark things
going on behind the scenes, and which is
the reason why I went independent, because
that niggas ain't getting me with none of that
I'm not telling my soul
I'm not doing none of that weird shit
rituals and all that shit
trying to get this guy going on
fuck out of it
yeah no rituals for sure
but there's a lot of weird things
that go on behind the scenes
and so it's very hard to be in a situation
like Drake is going through right now
where you're going against the whole thing
you know what I mean
the machine yeah I understand that there's
yeah I understand that there's a scrutiny
me because it's like
all right
we only get 15 minutes at a time
on Torrey's jail phone so we will be back
momentarily we back
yeah for sure
all right we back
we finished that note on the industry yeah it's pretty much
just a bunch of fuck shit going on
and you don't want to sell your soul
no no no no
you just don't know you sound crazy
I don't mean like I don't need
in some sort of way where it's like
you're coming into some cold shit
like that's not necessarily what I mean
And I just mean, look, when it comes down to it, there is a lot of things that happen
in the background of industries, especially music, in such a provocative place as it is, right?
But the reality of the situation is I commend any artists that have the balls to go out
and rage against the machine because as a man who did it myself,
It is one of the most exhausting things that you can imagine.
It's like going up against the richest and richest billionaire who have the most
richest and richest resources and you're by yourself, but you're saying it for their life,
I have respect for anybody who does that.
It's not just about Drake, but anybody.
And I encourage artists, I'm not telling you to go start problems.
I'm telling you that, you know, entire real relationships that you can have,
wherever you do business with
but at the same time
don't hold your tongue for nobody
if you see fuck shit going on
which happens in the background
at some standpoint
you have to say something
or you're going to end up like everybody else
and be a sheep
in a place where
it's full of wolves
and it's just it's not easy to be that
so I commend the artists
whether it be Jake or anybody else
who will rage against the machine
as long as they know
they have the facts and the actual proof of that of what they're saying.
Because it's not an easy thing to do regardless of how it looks.
And I know people are looking at it from a street angle.
But, like, yo, we all do respect, like, this is not a street angle.
And what Drake is doing, no matter how you want to put it,
he's really doing this for the rest of us artists.
Because the reality of it is if one man finally comes down and says,
yo, fuck me.
And the rest of us do it?
A revolution starts.
So it's either you look at it as he's going to start a revolution
or you look at it as, you know, it's just Drake doing some shit
and he's just trying to do some shit
and you feel like he's doing this because he lost a battle.
But being a man that knows him and speaks to him on a day-to-day basis,
I shouldn't say day-to-day, I don't talk to him every day,
but a man that speaks to him regularly,
it's like that nigger is not no dumb nigger, bro.
you're a very smart individual
he's like a war general
to make it that's very patient
and sometimes when you make certain moves
it's not going to make sense at that moment
but the grand scheme of what he's doing
is so smart
that when it comes into full fruition
that's when you're going to be like
oh I get it now
you know so if you can't see it at
at a certain standpoint
all I tell people to do is just let Tom
be Tom and whatever it's going to turn it
to, it'll turn it to whether you're impressed by it or not.
One song you did while you're in there, the feature on DDG song, that was a fucking
fire-ass verse. Is that where you're kind of speaking to?
Or what did you mean when you said, like, I hope they don't come from me the way they came
for Drizzie?
Nah, I was just saying, like, straight up, like, look, here's the reality, bro.
I come to compete.
When it comes to my craft, I'm here to compete with anybody.
I don't give a fuck who you are, what you got going on.
Like, if we're here to compete for music, I'm here to the house.
You feel me? And at the end of the day, like, that wasn't, like, a lot of people thought that was, like, a Kendrick diss. It wasn't a Kendrick this. It was an anybody this. Like, I respect everybody crap. I love what everybody does with date with their stuff. But I'm going to tell you right now, like, I love to compete. Like, I love to go off the bar with you so I can disrespect you and humiliate you because this is what I do. And at the end of the day, like, yes, I can't wait for 20,
niggas pause no homo to come at me niggas because at the end of the day it's like oh i have the
type of tenacity to finish every one of you niggins it's not a thing to me you know what i'm saying
like i almost wish sometimes i wish i could have jumped in jersey shoes and just and did the
beef for him you know what i said regardless like you feel me but it's just like that's how i feel
about the situation it's not it's not like i was talking to anybody specific i just don't
like, yo, I'm here to compete.
You just love to get in there.
I know, I know you.
You just love to fucking get in there.
I love it.
That's my life.
I love it.
This is what music is about.
Like, it's what rap is about.
It's about competing.
Like, and when it comes to that, like, play with me.
I love it.
Let's go.
We've seen all the IG lives and the way that you've, like, recorded stuff in the past.
Like, you can be super quick with it.
Well, you'll just get in the booth and lay down, like, fire right away.
But I'm wondering, since you have more time, is there any difference with this album where you're, like, doing more writing shit?
Are you just hopping on the jazz?
jail phone and just cooking
like you did in the past.
I'm just kidding.
I ain't go lie,
I was just getting on the jail phone
and I was just going.
Like, how if I feel that morning,
that's just how I'm going.
And that's the thing about this project.
It's like,
this is real life,
like my real emotion.
I don't give a fuck
if I cry on that fucking jail phone,
I don't care.
Like, nigga,
as long as I get it on that mic,
that's all I care about.
This is real life documentation of history.
It's never going to be a person that's going to do this like me.
That's crazy.
Really think about this.
Okay, before I say anything, let me ask you a question.
I know you're interviewing me, but let me interview you for a small second.
What is the most memorable prison song or album or anything that you can remember that was made in prison?
What is the most memorable thing that you can remember?
Everyone's probably going to comment some shit and call me an idiot for not saying it, but I personally don't know.
Like, nothing jumps off the page for me.
because nothing jumps into your mind immediately.
Yes, there's going to be people in the comments that are going to say,
well, Draco did it and fucking Bobby Schmurter and Sean.
But it's like, guys, these guys went on a phone call and just rapped.
They didn't have to go through, yo, what are the presets that we need
to turn this jail phone call into full high-end vocals that sound like I'm
in the studio so that this mic can now become my studio.
How do we do that?
There is a way.
That's what I did that is different
than the average person that they're gonna bring up in the comics.
The reason why you don't have anything to bring up right now
is because nobody did it.
Nobody did it.
Nobody did it to the point where it was so memorable
that it was like,
wow, this guy did it.
This is what this is, Kyle.
Fuck me being
Torrey Lanes. Fuck me being
the artist that is in
his situation. Like, just take this for
face value. Remove Tori Lanes.
Let's say I was a guy named Cheddar Bob
niggas for the sake of conversation.
I was Cheddar Bob, bro.
And I came to jail and I said,
yo, I'm Cheddar Bob releasing the first
ever professional prison
recorded album.
At that standpoint,
I'm going to look at Cheddar Bob and be like, I don't care who he is.
That is revolutionary if he gets that accomplished.
That's what I'm accomplishing.
And I'm not just accomplishing it for me.
I'm accomplishing it for everybody who comes after me
that goes to prison and feels like their dream is cooked.
Like when we come to prison, they treat us like we're dead.
We're not like you.
Kyle, I'm sorry.
We're just not.
We are the forgotten.
We are the mistreated, and no one cares because they're not here to see it.
And the average motherfucker in prison does not have the resources to show it for the world.
This album is the first representation of a raw and vivid view of prison in real time.
You understand?
Yeah.
It's very different.
This is a historical moment that will never, ever in life come again.
I pray that this does inspire the youngians that's after me.
God forbid that he has to go to prison.
But this is the first of its kind, Kyle.
This has never been done ever.
So fuck me being 40 lanes.
Just for the standpoint of like, I need to hear what that sounds like because it's never been done.
and I'm going to give you such a vivid picture of what prison and incarceration is, especially
in California.
I'm going to give you that vivid picture, and you're going to go through my prison experience
with me.
What do you make of this, like, chapter of your life?
Because it is just a chapter at the end of the day.
Are you a guy that believes everything happens for a reason, and, like, you were kind of meant
to go through this for some reason, or how do you look at it?
I know for a fact, this is God's friend.
And if I could do it any other way, I know this is not going to make sense with so many of my viewers,
and they're going to be like, they're going to what?
But I genuinely feel, like, if someone came to me and said,
yo, you can give back the prison thing, not prison thing,
but if you give back your prison sentence and whatever the case is,
just go back to life how you were living it right then and there when you were in the case
and you could claim out victorious, I wouldn't take it like that.
I wouldn't take it like that.
I know my victory is bigger.
I've always known my victory is bigger, and I always known that regardless of everything,
God is going to make me come out victorious in me.
However, regardless of how big I knew this was going to be,
I've always been at the standpoint of, I'm not going to lie, I had to be here.
because the way that I was actually moving in life at that point of my life,
I was moving so fast that I would not be alive if I did not come to jail.
I swear to God, I would not be alive, brother.
And God gave me the blessing of sitting me down.
And that's not going to make sense to a lot of my fans.
But I am so thankful for what God did for me in this time.
because the man that I am right now
is you can't compete with him
his mind is sharp
his brain is sharp
his ideas are heightened
God is moving through the man
that I am right now
in such an exciting way
that I can't even
fathom what he has coming for me
and it makes me
so happy. That's why I can't like my I have an ear to ear smile right now because I'm so excited
for what God has for me because now that I am the man that he made me to be in a man that
he wants me to be now I can finally receive the blessings that I'm supposed to receive
and I was never going to get these blessings had I been moving how I was moving before I
to jail. So this is the biggest blessing of my life despite the pain, despite the tears,
despite the problems. My enemies thought that when they put me in prison, they said that
this was going to be the thing that silenced me and shut me down and finally stopped me.
Little did they know they only ignited a fire. It was an endurable fire that they would
never in life be able to pain and they didn't understand that but now that i'm here i'm just like
kyle this is god sent and so to answer your question yes like i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't
give this this part of my life back for nothing i know for a fact that this was with a purpose
100% that's awesome bro makes me happy to hear
yep yes sir no that's bro that honestly makes me really happy to hear you sound like you're in a great
place and bro yeah like like i told you before you you've always inspired me and you're inspiring me further
now just the way that you're just always been a fighter bro every stage of your career you've
always been an absolute fighter and i know that inspires a lot of people like i don't know how much
you see or how much you're told but there's so much support for you online like everything i read
everything i see i don't know if you you saw anything with um we had yeah we had aden on last week
too and he showed up in the free tory shirt and we were talking about that talking about some of the
new evidence how does that make you feel to like hear all the support you're getting
aiden i love that kid man like that's my real brother like you know what i'm saying and i think
we went through what people don't understand about me and aiding is like we both have these
weird like behind the scenes
like you fucked up like
upbringings and like
we've been there for each other in times
that other people aren't
and it's like I really
love Aiden, bro. That's my brother
bro. I really cry real tears about Aiden
like as far as like him being a person that
just represented me so hard
like that shit means so much to me
though like because the thing is that people
understand like
y'all niggas can can
DM me and when Ray
shout out to my nigga Ray but when Ray
reads me the message and he tells me
oh yeah I say this and third it's like
yo I feel it but nigga
don't tell me none of that shit and don't think that
you got this pass with me
because yo you came and
and said yo free toy in my inbox
nah nigga go shout that shit out to the world
if you feel that way
nigga don't tell me no shit about like
nigga how you feel and oh yeah
your toy you know I got you under any circumstances
but you're doing it behind the scene
The reason why I respect Asian
Because regardless of all the gangster niggas
And I put that with a quote on quote
And another quote unquote
Regardless of all the quote unquote
Real niggas
That are supposed to be real niggas
And real street niggas
And all this I'm saying all this
With quotes, nigger
My quotes of like Playboy bunnies right now
The way I keep putting the quote signs up, nigga
It's like like
All those people
Were scared
They were scared to say how they choose
felt because they come to me and we have long hour long conversations on how we all feel like
y'all now we know you're innocent because of this after and this and they're screaming and
crying and saying i can't believe they got you like this but when it comes to public time
it's like nobody's saying what they really feel i've even seen people say the opposite of what
they feel the opposite of what they told me because it was benefiting to them at that time
and that's sweet to me.
And I love all my niggas, of course, 100%.
But it's a lot of, and I have to say, like, it's fucked up.
There's a lot of black people, my nigger,
that, like, have done fake-ass shit to me and say,
hey, X, Y, Z, da-da-da-da-da-da.
And Aidan Ross, this white boy who, remember,
white people don't like to go against black culture
because, we'll eat child niggas up.
I play with us.
But the reality of it is,
it's like he went all against black culture,
like it's not about a coach this is my brother and i don't care about what you're talking about
until he's free i'm going i'm getting my stance and that's why i respect him over so many
niggers that we quote on cool put this real nigger tag on aden is a real nigger
i know why he's a real nigger because he's an honorable man and i want to say this on your
podcast for any young niggas listening to this everybody talks about real nigger this and
real nigga that and that's the word i gotta be a real nigga a real nigga a real nigga is not
defined because of how many bodies he has how many times he buses gun how many times he's in
the street you know what a real nigga is kyle a real nigger is somebody who takes care
and supports and provides for his family and make sure his family and his loved ones are taking
care that and no matter what the world is feeling he's going to stand
on it to take care of his loved one.
Indian Ross is a real
nigger.
I just want to make sure that that's
100% understood
from my mouth.
You feel me?
I want to make sure I said that.
One second.
One second, one second, brody.
Hey, call suit suit in.
Calls who in?
I don't got no mail, right?
I do or I don't?
Hold on a second cop
Got my mail
real quick
Y'all got me
mid-in-view
You know what I'm saying?
Not Super Smash again
Hey yo Leon
You want to say something
For the world
Hey you want to say
Hey three
You want to tell them for you?
Screaming out
oh
Hey
Hey
do you want to get anything
in the fourth
podcast?
You want to get anything
I'm going to
All right, my bed, I had to get my mail.
All right, come on, go ahead.
No, I was going to say, no, you're right, bro.
Aidan's a loyal last guy for sure.
Very good guy, bro.
And that's all I was trying to say is just like, for me, bro, I've always been a person that at the end of the day, like, I respect real people and I'm happy for real people in my life.
and each one of those people
that I'm very happy
for having my corner
that's all it is
100%
I love Aiden
he's always been there
to support us too
so what is the status
of the case right now
I don't know how much
you could talk about it
but I know we saw
I think you guys
submitted for like
factual innocence
is that the word
and now the court
is considering it
can you
can you give us
like an update
on where it's at
all right
so I'll break this down
so it can make
more sense
because I know
a lot of people were, like, confused about this, but this is what it is, right?
And I want the viewer to just really, like, whoever you are, whether or not you're on
the other side or you're on our side or regardless, I just want us to think in just logical sense,
okay, for, like, for real, just logical sense.
I'm in jail right now for 10 years, my crime that they charged me with,
is carrying a concealed firearm and assault with a semi-automatic, which is a handgun or whatever it is.
As long as it's a new gun, it's a semi-automatic.
As long as it don't got the revolve, it's labeled a semi-automatic.
So they gave me 10 years because, I mean, because of the use of a firearm, assault with a firearm, right?
So I wanted to just think here, and this is what our factual innocence writ that we sent to the appellate court was about.
We said this, and our argument was this.
Listen.
If there is a man, America, just listen to this.
If you are a person and you are being convicted and sent it to 10 years in prison
because of the use of a firearm, something needs to connect you to this firearm.
Am I right or wrong?
Correct.
Correct.
That sounds correct.
In order for you to be guilty of this, something needs to connect you to this.
Now, I need you to understand now my facts, not my opinion, not my theory, my facts.
There is literally four contributors on this suspected gun.
90% contributor on this gun is a male, and the rest of the percentages of this gun are two females and another male.
none of those four people
are my DNA
so
I am 100% excluded
not in conclusion like they said when I was in trial
I'm 100% excluded
from this gun when it comes to DNA
my fingerprints
are 100% excluded
from the magazine
from the gun
from the bullets
from anything that has to do with this gun
Cedar Sinai Hospital
with the help of LAPD
Los Angeles Police Department
for those who don't understand these abbreviation
together
they have put on my discovery
that we have lost the bullet fragments
well if you lost the bullet fragments
then you can't even
attach this gun
to the alleged
bullets that allegedly hit the victim.
So y'all mean to tell me, you don't even have, number one, you don't have the DNA.
You have a hundred percent excluded person off of DNA.
You have a person that has literally zero handprints on this gun, on their magazine, on any
of the bullet casings or chambers.
You don't even have the bullets to match to this gun, to say that these bullets were even
shot out of the gun that you guys supposedly recovered.
And then on top of that, the gun itself is sealed in L.A. County so we can never, ever
grab the gun and do any retesting.
The LAPID made sure to seal the gun so that there would be no retesting on this gun.
When we went into court and we put these things in and said, hey, like, we're factually
innocent due to these facts, the court said, you know what?
we're going to consider that because there's good reason appearing on what you're saying
all of these things check out and i want to explain something about the appellate court
the appellate court is never going to give you a judgment until they fully have read
thoroughly through what you're saying to make sure that it's true because their judgments
are after conviction so it's like you've already been found guilty legally by
a peer group of 12 people.
So it's like we really should not even be like everything they said at face value
is supposed to be what it is.
But they go thoroughly to see if there's a mistake.
And in the mistakes that they saw, they said, hey, we see that there's an issue here.
We see that there's good a reason here and we're going to consider this.
That was the last thing that actually happened.
So this is all new evidence, though?
Like the four people's DNA on the gun, that wasn't, that wasn't in the,
the first trial, whatsoever.
So in the first trial, they kept going, they told me I was inconclusive, but I knew that
was always a lie.
I was like, I never touched this gun.
So it went from now inconclusive to now completely excluded.
Yeah, once I was in jail, I asked my lawyer, like, can you get a DNA specialist to do
this gun again?
I know I never touched this gun.
And then when he did it again, he was like, oh, I see what happened.
They manipulated your DNA.
And basically, it was almost, this is what they did.
It's like you ever had to wait for a video game and you're waiting for it to load.
So DNA, the way that they did it, is like, okay, if I let it load 60%,
it's not going to give me the full conclusion yet.
So once they loaded it like 60 to 70%, it was like, yo, it's ain't conclusive.
But how they let it go the whole way, they would see it was 100% excluded.
But they were like, yo, the fact that it's in occlusive and not a match,
let's just leave it here because this is the best we're going to get.
So they stopped my test
Before it even got to the finish result
Therefore I went to court thinking
That you guys only have an ink inclusive test
But I always knew in my heart
This is impossible I never touched this gun
That new fact alone is insane
Just the fact that it went from inclusive to exclude it
And there's four people's DNA on the gun
And none of them are years is fucking
That should be enough for them to open up the factual
innocence like now?
Brother, my judge, my judge, Judge Herringford, Judge David B.
Herringford, I'm not going to disrespect him.
He's, you know, at the end of the day, he's still an honorable judge.
He's a black man at that.
But I watch this man literally look at me and say, so let's just say, I'll take the DNA
evidence to be real.
And I'll say that it's true.
He said this on the record, by the way, through my transcripts.
He says, I'll take this.
I'll take the DNA evidence to be true, but I'm going to say this.
At the end of the day, even if I take it to be true, that's not a big factor in this case.
That's not why he got convicted.
Brother, what the fuck are you talking about?
My nigga, what the fuck is you talking about, my nigga?
Because that's the whole case.
You feel me?
But, again, that's what it was, and that's what I had to, that's what I've had to endure during this time.
And so it is what it is.
I'm not, again, I'm not.
hour about anything i know that god has a plan in me and in this so this is what it is 100% all right
brother well i don't know how much time you have but i just wanted to fucking get you on here and
say that we're behind you we're supporting you and we appreciate you coming on and so when's the album
when's the album coming can you say let the world know the album is coming March 7th i'm gonna make
sure it's finished by that time that's all we got March 7th all right
Tori Lane's from jail.
I mean, he did three jail calls in a row.
Buddy in the back was probably fucking starting to knock for the jail phone.
So, no, we love Tori.
We appreciate him doing this, especially from jail.
We're rooting for him.
That guy's been inspiring me.
I've been following him since I was living back in Canada, too.
We're both from Toronto area.
So it was really cool that he could call in.
Free Tori, man.
Drop a thumbs up on the episode.
We'll see you guys next week.