Games with Names - “2012 Pro Bowl” with Brandon Marshall | AFC vs. NFC

Episode Date: January 31, 2023

Today, it’s a real “leave no stone left unturned” kind of game on our journey to find the greatest game of all time. It's the 2012 Pro Bowl with Brandon Marshall. We look back at the world in January 2012 (6:44). Jules & Sam revisit these rosters (13:52). Brandon Marshall joins the guys to talk all things Pro Bowl and his MVP performance (23:26). We wrap it all up and give this game a score (1:16:38).Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Too bad no one cared. This is a 2012 Pro Bowl. Hello and welcome to Games with Names presented by Winbet. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Sam Morrell. And we are on the search for the greatest games of all time. Today's episode, 2012 Pro Bowl AFC versus NFC. And our guest, co-host on Inside the NFL, streaming on Paramount Plus, of course, Brandon Marshall, a dear friend of mine.

You guys know him all from I Am Athlete to a six-time Pro Bowler to... New York Jet. New York Jet. He talks about the Jets all the time. And, you know, we started developing this this podcast and Brandon's like hey you know we gotta you know I was like you we gotta have Yambi and he's like yo uh will you do my best game and I said well what's your best game and you know I asked him you know have you clearly you didn't play in any playoff games. No.

So we had to scrape, gnaw, scratch, and we found the 2012 Pro Bowl where Brandon Marshall had 100. Jack, what did he have? I think he had four touchdowns. He scored almost as much as Julian on Raya. This guy was on fire you have four touchdowns i believe 176 yards yeah and i think eight catches seven catches amazing there wasn't a lot of defense wasn't a lot of defense but you know what does the defense even really need to show up?

Do we need linemen in the Pro Bowl? We can kind of just get the defensive backs and the wide receivers. Seven on seven? Yeah, play with flags. Seven on seven. Nah, we can't do that. The Pro Bowl. But they're not tackling anyway.

Yeah, at least they were kind of hitting this one. I mean, it's gotten a lot worse over these last couple years. Yeah. But my first reaction when I saw this game was, man, B. Marsh turned it on in a game where no one really cared. You're playing meaningful playoff football at this time. Yeah. This was 2012. So you're about to lose to the New York Giants.

We were about to go to the Super Bowl. And then lose the Super Bowl to the New York Giants. And play in one in Indianapolis. And yes, we lost. You only made one Pro Bowl, but you should have made more but you didn't technically i didn't make a pro because you didn't go because i didn't go we had to play in a super bowl you got the money right got they paid me they gave me you get either 40 or 60 grand i got a jersey but hot take everyone everyone wants to talk about never made a pro ball i got the jersey

yeah i got it i got i got i got and you didn't go because you were playing in the super bowl yeah we were playing the super bowl so you can't you can't go because they used to play it before and then they started going after and after you win a super bowl you don't want to you don't want to go play in the pro bowl no it'd be horrible you want to go celebrate yeah no but on on a real thing you know b b marsh had an immaculate career, was in the Pro Bowl six times, which is a huge honor. What if he had a great quarterback? What was his career?

Because when you're a wide receiver and you don't play with great quarterbacks. That's tough. You're a dependent player. You depend on someone giving you the ball for your career to blossom. It's like if Daniel Day-Lewis only got to act with Rob Schneider. Exactly. He'd be like, he's good, but I feel like he could be better. Without a doubt.

Yeah. You know, like Gangs of New York, right? Leo? That's a little inside joke. That's an inside joke. Asaf says it's, our buddy Asaf says it's Scorsese's best movie of all time. Of all time. Which is a ludicrous take. It's a good movie. It is not Scorsese's best movie. Who puts that over Goodfellas? Not me. Not me. Not me. But let's get our initial reactions to this game.

It's a Pro Bowl. Yeah. It's tough to react to the pro bowl yeah i've never watched the highlights are fun you get to see all these great players yeah i mean you you definitely see so like the thing that stuck out to me was that crazy catch that brandon had on the go route where the two guys collided on each other he's on his back it reminded me of the play in the super bowl malcolm butleripped that seam ball. Guy comes up. What was that guy's name? I forgot.

But he goes out and catches the ball. Brandon had some really good plays, playing hard. And that's the kind of guy Brandon is. So he plays hard regardless, competes hard in everything he does. Big receiver, too. Huge. Huge. What do we got, Jackie? That was Jermaine Curse.

Jermaine Curse. Jermaine Curse. When he had that big on-the-back catch in a Super Bowl. You know, it very much well does compare a lot to this Pro Bowl catch. So, you know, I'm excited to have B on here and pick his brain about the ins and outs of the Pro Bowl. Because I've never been, Sam. Yeah. Never been. You should have gone.

I mean, you went. You just didn't go. I didn't go. You had the ticket. You just didn't book the flight. Wouldn't you rather be in the Super Bowl? Of course. Would you trade one Super Bowl for like four Pro Bowl appearances?

What's the value? Nah. You can't take away a ring. That's what value? Nah. You can't take away a ring. That's what I'm saying. You can't take away a ring. You don't play for the Pro Bowl. And don't the fans vote for you? Don't the fans vote you in?

And where's our fans in New England? Come on, guys. I need double clicks. Where was it? It was nowhere to be found. It was nowhere to be found. Let's go back. You can get a tweet from Casey Affleck or something.

What the hell? Matt Damon. That's a pretty big name. Right? What are you doing? Affleck? I'm over this. I'm over this.

I'm not. Let's go back to January 29th, 2012. On this day, the number one movie in America was The Grey. Revenge flick with Liam Neeson? Or in the woods or something? With a big wolf. I actually remember this one. I with Liam Neeson? Or in the woods or something? With a big wolf. I actually remember this one. I love Liam Neeson movies.

Yeah. They're all exactly the same. You know what you're going to get when you go watch them, but you're always entertained and satisfied when it's done. Yeah. At least for me.

He's a classic. Liam Neeson, we love him. He's got a huge dong as well. Does he? Apparently. I have a friend's mom that dated him. Really? Yeah.

I'm going to have to ask her. Ask her. I will. Let's text her right now. How big is Liam's penis? He's yeah, he's great. The gray. It's crazy.

He's still just belting out action movies. He's going to be on a walker soon. The gray is named after his pubes in this movie, which he's really getting old, but he's still kicking ass and we love him. Number one song in America. We found love. We found Rihanna.

This was, I love that song. Great song. It brings me back to some love that I had that time. Yeah. A little bit hopeless. I think it was, we, but it was, you know, we, we, we found time. Yeah? A little bit. Was it hopeless? I think it was. But it was, you know, we found it.

Yeah. And then this song came out, and then we broke up. So... Rihanna. Oh, Rihanna. She's so cool. Jeggings, those were jean leggings. Yeah, what the hell?

Yeah, I think Ninkovich. Once again, I'm going to go back to Ninkovich's wardrobe. I talked about it in one of our episodes. I saw him wearing some jeggings once, and he said that's how I wear them, and I was like, absolutely not. He needs to go back to lumberjack wearings here. Sketcher shape-ups. Remember that?

Everyone thought they were going to get a butt because of the round curve of the sole of the sketcher shape-ups. I don't remember these at all. Yeah, I do. I've been in that world. I think Brady used to wear some things like that. It wasn't a sketcher i don't remember these at all i yeah i do i was i mean i've been in that world i think brady used to wear some things like that it wasn't a sketcher one but it was like this like a kangaroo brand and like these moon shoes i don't know people people put anything on their feet these days to feel like they're they're doing something good for their body fedoras

never rocked the fedora. I can't pull it. Fedora, it's too much of a fashion risk. I think I wore one at the Kentucky Derby once. But that's where you wear one. Yeah. I went to a race in Kentucky, and I was at the Keens racetrack, and I was the only person there that didn't look like a villain in Django Unchained.

Yeah. They dress to the nines in Kentucky. They dress to the nines of the South for sure. Very much so. This time it's sports. Djokovic beats Nadal in the Australian Open. This was Charlie Sheen's winning year. Why?

Why do you say that? Because this was the year Charlie Sheen started the winning. When he was like, I'm winning. He left two and a half men, 2012. winning turned out he had hiv so if your friends are really positive check on look i was talking to a friend the other day and he told me he was crushing life and i was like you poor bastard it is true anytime things are going too well there's always something that that was that was charlie sheen at the i mean charlie sheen that guy epic career two and a half men yeah but he's had a couple he's had a couple downfalls he'll he'll always come back he always comes back oh dude spin city was classic hot shots hot

wall street yeah like we love charlie love charlie what about uh- Let's get Charlie Sheen on this show. Charlie, come on, dude. We love you. Money Talks with Chris Tucker. That's a great movie. That's a great movie. Chris Tucker, way in the 90s. I miss him.

Yeah. It's hard. Where'd he go? He went kind of- Rush Hour and Money Talks and Friday. I mean, those were like- He left for a while. I think he was born again or something. It's some religious stuff.

Hey, more power to you. More power to you. Yeah, but less power to us. We don't get to see your movies. I know. Sorry, Chris. I'm sure you're doing great. End of the Iraq War.

That's always nice. In 2011. War ends. That's good. Kim Jong-il dies 2011. Gaddafi's killed. Bad time for dictators. Look at that.

Dictators are dropping like flies. See you later. Gone. Wow. YOLO. YOLO. You only live once. Yeah.

That was the Drake thing, right? I mean, I'm not going to lie. I said it a few times. Yeah, you got to say YOLO. Actually, I had a friend that got it tattooed in their lip. Really? Yeah. Damn.

I don't know what she was thinking. That's not a good move. No, but it goes away. When you get the tattoo in the lip. Oh, really? It goes away in like six years or something. Oh, really? Supposedly, yeah.

Oh, that's smarter then. Yeah. That's where you do it. That's where you do it. You could get buried then. Yeah. Oh, wow. You're back in the Jewish cemetery.

I didn't realize that. Hey, man. So what were we doing on this day? This was 2012. What were you doing, Sam? I looked it up. I think I just started working the comedy cellar in New York City, which was a big deal for me.

I was playing a club called Magoobie's Joke House in Timonium, Maryland. When you love God, God loves you back, guys. And I do remember that gig, actually, because terrible story, but also kind of, I remember I was opening for a great comic named Gary Goldman, who's, you know, many specials. He had a great HBO special called The Great Depression. Big Patriots fan, by the way. And I remember opening for him at the time,

and the guy who ran the club, it's horrible. His father passed away. So he gets on the mic to start the show and he goes, uh, you know, he's a wreck because of his dad. He's calling from the back on the God mic going, uh, all right, you guys ready to start the show? Rowdy Baltimore crowd guys, quiet down. They keep going. Ah, he's like, guys, please. guys please he goes shut up shut the fuck up and then everyone's uncomfortable goes sorry my dad died come into the stage that's how the show started and you had to follow that yeah how'd you do not well it's a tough it was a good weekend good weekend yeah anytime you get tragedy and you got to be funny. Crazy, crazy. But we pulled it out. I've been back since. It's a good club.

And you were getting ready to play in the Super Bowl. Well, I didn't technically play this one. Yeah. Well, neither did your whole team as the Giants just destroyed you. They didn't destroy us. It was close, but they destroyed your spirit. Spirit completely shit on. Yeah, Mario Manningham, dude.

Sideline. That was beautiful. I was right there. Brandon Jacobs, just a force. Huge. Loves him, dude. And then. JPP.

The old elastic. We always had a crazy defensive line, man. Yeah, dude. The Giants D was. That was like their. It was Spags, right? Who's their D coordinator? I think it was Spags. Yeah there was Spags, right? Who's their D coordinator?

Spags. Yeah. Old Spags always had the, he had this saying that, you know, I think what was on the edge, crush, crash, crush, chase. So those defensive ends are always coming off that edge. So it was, no, it was Spagnola. Let's get into these teams. 2012 NFC Pro Bowl team.

The coach, Mike McCarthy. Packers. Packers at the time. He did win a Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers in 2009. Feeling a little heat these days over in cowboy land. Oh, yeah. That's a tough job. That's got to be very tough. So much pressure, but it's like, you guys, it's been a while.

Cowboys have that pressure where they're like, we're the Cowboys. Yeah, but it's been a while. It's been a long time. Yeah. It's been since Aikman and Emmett. I don't know politics, but this is what I think it's like. Is it kind of like QAnon? Well, no, he's the president.

Yeah. But the president really is just a puppet to other people and that's really jerry yeah you know like because jerry really runs the shots there like if you're a head coach in cowboy land yeah like you're not calling shots jerry's gonna get on that phone and and just say hey buddy we're doing this and you can't say a word about it because that's jerry yeah is that any did that have any i think they need to do more cocaine that seemed to be the secret of the success in the 90s bring back cocaine bring back to the cowboys yeah bring it back get michael irvin in there as a as a special cocaine coach good man oh my god energy phenomenal high energy i think we know why

nine players from the 49ers my childhood team they we i thought we were actually going to play them i was because we we won the afc championship and we after the game who was our qb in 2012 cap that was caps oh my god alex smith went out cap came in heroic cap smith had those tiny hands never trust a quarterback with small hands unless he's sending you a picture of his penis because then the penis looks huge next to the little hands but otherwise that's why you can't trust him

Eli didn't play in this game but he was voted he was also voted Super Bowl MVP thank you Sam for reminding me once again Cam Newton was a rookie that took his place on the Pro Bowl team. Yeah. Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Jimmy Graham, Clay Matthews. Matthews, another great football family.

Yeah, Charles Woodson. Charles Woodson. Man, he played for years. These are names. I mean, it's Pro Bowl. Yeah. AFC, they had Gary Kubiak. Kubi.

From the Texans. Remember that year they came? I think we played them in the playoffs that year. They were good that year. Yeah, they came and tried to play us, and the whole team wore Letterman jackets before the game. This is the National Football League. Yeah, dude.

Get that shit out of here. We sat here, and we saw them coming in on some Letterman jackets. You guys wore Jay Leno jackets. Just denim. That's all it was. I couldn't understand iting. You guys wore Jay Leno jackets. Just denim. That's all it was. I couldn't understand it. Yeah. I couldn't understand it.

Go ahead. Well, you fucked them up. Nine players from the Patriots were there. None played because of the Super Bowl. Brady didn't play because he was replaced by Andy Dalton. Another rookie. A rookie. Wow.

Notable names. Big Ben, Rivers, Ray Lewis, Darrell Rivas, Von Miller. I mean, you're right. This is Lewis, Darrell Rivas, Von Miller. You're right. This is the Pro Bowl. These are legends, man. The game, 2012, Pro Bowl, 36 first-time Pro Bowlers. Wow.

And I couldn't have been one of them. Too bad. Some bullshit. Things we remembered. Would you have rather played in the Pro Bowl knowing you lost the Super Bowl? Or would you rather have gone to the Super Bowl and like that builds character and stuff? You still got to go to the Super Bowl. Yeah, you got to go.

It's fun. It's a fun experience. Family gets to have a good time. I mean, your family probably has a great time in Hawaii too. I wouldn't know. But the things we remember, I mean, Brandon Marshall had a record-setting performance. Record-setting. We also remember that it is the Pro Bowl

and defense is optional. as it was shown. As we said, Patriots and Niners led the league with nine Pro Bowlers each. No penalty for the celebration. That was back when celebrating was illegal. What a dumb rule that was. Players were literally getting CTE, and the front offices in the NFL were like, no dancing. What a bunch

of assholes. It's no fun league. Unreal. They've gotten better. They've gotten better. The league has gotten better. They've gotten better, but this was crazy. How dare they not let them celebrate? You just scored. The bob and weave by the Rams back in the day. The dirty bird

by the Falcons. I always think of the beginning of basketball. You remember that? You ever see basketball? It's like the long choreographed dance. You're like, oh, I want to see that in the NFL just once. Everyone just doing like river dance. Little bitch.

Yeah. Squeak. Little bitch. Basketball is an underrated sports classic. Yeah, those guys are geniuses. And David Zucker wrote it from Airplane and shit. And Matt Stone and Trey Parker we love. Geniuses.

Something we may not have known, Pro Bowl has vastly different rules than in-season games. Some examples can't use a 34 defense. You have to use a 43. There's no blitzing. I think you have to play zone. I don't even think you can play man. Intentional grounding. What's There's no blitzing. I believe you have to. I think you have to play zone. I don't think you can play man. Intentional grounding.

What's the point of blitzing? They're not playing, you know. I don't know. I mean, back in the All-Star Games, back in like the 70s, Pete Rose took out a catcher and ended his career. I'm trying to avoid that. I guess we are. But it's something that we'll always remember.

Pete Rose also ended his own career by gambling. On his team. But gambling is cool. Win bet. Win bet. The one crazy rule, more than one forward pass thrown in the same play is allowed. I didn't get that. What does that even mean, Jack?

Let me get a number crunch on that. Roger Goodell, speaking a week after the game, said, This is the kind of football we want to be demonstrating to our fans. And you heard it from the fans. The fans are actively booing in the stands. We're going to have to improve the quality of what we're doing in the Pro Bowl to consider other changes or even consider eliminating the game. That's the kind of quality game we're going to provide. I mean, yeah, it's an awesome performance for Brandon Marshall, but I think fans want to see it. Why have the game if there's not going to be defense? Defense is such a part of football.

Yeah, I don't know. It's a tradition. I'll give you that. I actually like all the all-star things when they're doing the throw comps. They used to have the fastest man. They'd have the obstacle drills. My favorite part of NBA All-Star Weekend was never the game. It was like the three-point contest.

The dunk. The dunk. Well, not anymore. I love the skills, dude. Dunk contest has fallen off, but three-point contest is still pretty good. Those guys, yeah. Can we get the dunk on the first dunk? I hate it.

You should only get one dunk. How many chances are we going to give them? I don't know. Jesus Christ. You get as many chances to dunk as a woman will give chris brown apparently and let's go to the segment the gaming corner yeah presented by win bet some of the relevant betting lines of this game who how much of a gambling problem do you have to have to bet on the Pro Bowl? It's... Jack?

Have you ever betted on a Pro Bowl? I've only done over-unders. I will never take a side. Hey, full transparency. Respect. The spread was NFC minus four. That's probably because we had nine Patriots in the Super Bowl that game.

Wow. They lost that one. They were busy losing a much more significant game. Yes, they were. Samuel. That's what my mom says when she's mad at me, too. She goes, Samuel. Over and under was 72. What was the

final score of this? I think that went over. Wow. 59 to 41. Yeah, it's tough tough but i'm excited to hear i want to hear the inside stories from from brandon about this so many stars in one place that's kind of to me the cool thing about the bubble that's that's what that's what'll be the huge thing but let's get back to our prop bet each week every week during the interview we come up with something that we have to either say a certain amount of times, have our interviewee say a certain amount of times, or flub someone up with a certain amount of something. We got to come up with that prop bet.

Well, I think we got a good one for both of us this week. For you, how many times can you mention that you played in the Super Bowl that year? How many times can you mention that you played in the super bowl that year how many times can you mention that during the interview do you think i mean i don't want to be an asshole but i'll go three three all right three i'm gonna so and then for me it's how many times can i say aloha because of hawaii all right i think i could pull it off four times you have to because after a good play you'd be like like, Aloha! Yeah. I'm going to hit four on Aloha. I'm going to hit three. We'll see. I'm taking the over on both.

Actually, I'm going to take the over on yours. So you're going to have to say five. Okay. I can do it. I'm going to have to say it four. Well, Aloha means hello and goodbye. I can say it twice there. I'm strategizing here.

It's like Shalom. It is like Shalom. A hello and a goodbye um all right well we're gonna hear from brandon marshall right after this but before that let's take a quick break and we are joined here with my brother from another mother six foot five Mother, 6'5", 220 pounds? Hey, listen, yeah, in shape, in shape. In shape, looking like a tight end. This guy right here who's coming onto our podcast, Brandon Marshall, had a 13-year career.

Yeah. He had 970 receptions, 970, 12,371 receiving yards. The craziest thing is he had 83 touchdowns. Insane. 83 touchdowns, cup wall pro, six-time Pro Bowler. That's why we were actually talking to him, because we were going to discuss that MVP performance at the Aloha Honolulu Pro Bowl.

Oh, wow. That's what we're here to talk about. This is the game with the name, baby. This is the game that we're talking about? You chose this one? This is a shocker. You know how many Super Bowls I played in? You're going to pick the Pro Bowl game over the Super Bowl games?

Well, Brandon, you know, I didn't, you know, it's tough to, how many playoff games and Super Bowls did you play in? Let me Google it. Hold on. Nah. This guy right here, my guy right here, he's going to be a future Hall of Famer. He was a beast. I saw him firsthand demolish my team in 2009,

I think. He had like 13, 15 catches, two touchdowns on lee bodden i think was it lee bodden man i don't even know bro you don't need to see that's how good he is he doesn't even know but uh we're joined here with brandon marshall to talk about that 2012 pro bowl where you just went absolutely bananas in the game. What is Pro Bowl week like? I've never been to a Pro Bowl. I was never that good. You know, I don't know anything about it.

What's the Pro Bowl week like? Well, first, before we jump into this Pro Bowl game, like tell me about this. What is this, games with names in a set? Like where are you guys in? You got Winbet back there? They gave you all the bag? This is definitely presented by Winbet.

This is games with names. We take the hottest games, important games with big names, games that you can name. I mean, the names are the people in the games, and the games have names. Yo, this is so dope. Like, is this like a set, a bar? Like, where are you guys?

We're in Chinatown. We're in Chinatown in New York. Yeah. Wow. Dope. This is super dope. I love it. Look, anyway, so we're going to pick this.

I'm still disappointed that you chose this Pro Bowl game. It was a dope game. We're going to get into it. I have a lot to discuss, but we could have chosen, you know, all those playoff games in those couple Super Bowls that I played in. Brandon. Yeah. You didn't play in a playoff games in those couple Super Bowls that I played in. Brandon. Yeah. You didn't play in a playoff game.

Really? You sure? This is the shit we talk about, you know? Yeah. Like, we get a lot of hits to the head. You forget a lot of things. Damn. He doesn't understand the football thing.

Like, he had 970 catches. You know what I mean? He's a big guy. He can't even remember he'd ever played in a fucking playoff game. He doesn't even remember. You talk about games with names. That's what we should be talking

about. All them damn games I didn't play in. That's what I'm upset about. 970 games and 83 touchdowns. I never played in a playoff game, Jay. Ever. That's a problem.

I never played in a Pro Bowl. That's why this is like a really interesting one to me because I just, I don't know what goes on there, what goes on. Brandon, how many Pro Bowls would you trade for a Super Bowl appearance? Six-time Pro Bowler. So, yeah, six-time Pro Bowler? Six-time pro bowler. So, yeah, six-time pro bowler. Two-time all pro. I'll be honest with you.

Now you enter into the debate of would you rather take, you know, a Hall of Fame career or a Super Bowl, right? And I'll be honest, right? I think at the end of the day, when you walk away from the game, the most important thing is the relationship with the guys, right? Like Jules, we never played together. We never were teammates, but he was my all-time favorite wide receiver in the game. One of my top five players that I've ever played against. Or to me, you know, when I look back at the 13 years I played in league, I look at like dudes that I love,

Jules is top five for sure. And I told him that back in 2000 and like 11 and 2012, I walked up to him and asked him for his jersey. Jules was nobody at the time I did this, Jules was nobody for real. Right. And I just saw this dude playing punt return kick return playing defense playing wide receiver he had this damn this the tenacity about him college quarterback too right that's right but look at the bond we we've been able to to to make and establish since that moment and now I'm being you know teammates on inside the NFL so the relationship's the most important part. Now it's over. You know, I'm 38.

Jules is what? How are you, 36 or 37? I'll be 36 here soon. So he's 35. Jules is young, bro. Like, I got my body. I feel good. Jules don't think I got my mind.

I still got my mind. And then also, I'm able to take care of my family. So if I'm being honest, I'm going to take the career over to Super Bowl because, you know, I think that I was in position to take care of my mom and my brothers and my sisters, you know, take care of myself, create generational wealth. It's extremely tough as a competitor. You understand? Because, you know, I'm the only one to sit around Jules and those guys. And they're like, ah, you never made a playoff. You never made a playoff. So I have to eat that for the rest of my life. But at least I'm eating that with, you know, lobster and steak, baby.

But you never went to the playoffs, but you did win an MVP at the Pro Bowl, which is impressive, Brandon. This is impressive. Four tugs? Four tugs in a game that no one tries in? I mean, this is insane. Four tugs? Four tugs in a game that no one tries in? I mean, this is insane. So here's the deal. Let me tell you about the Pro Bowl, Jules.

The Pro Bowl is dope because, you know, I just remember every year sitting around, you know, right around week 10 or so, you see all the fan votes coming in, and then you start seeing, you know, hearing the chatter, you know, if you made it or not, if you're alternate. And I think guys enjoy that moment because it's really, again, getting that respect from your peers, those relationships around the league people. You have coaches, defensive coordinators, you have other players saying this guy is good. And I think that's the ultimate sign of respect is when you get those type of nods in any sport from your peers. Right. So that's what's cool about the Pro Bowl. What else is cool about the Pro Bowl?

Excuse me. What else is cool about the Pro Bowl? The first Pro Bowl or two, you get an opportunity to, you know, show your appreciation to the people that help you get there. Right. That's that's the coolest thing about it. Right. I mean, my first Pro Bowl, I brought 30 people out there. You know, I took the money that I made from the Pro Bowl and I said, I'm going to invest that and bring in the people out that helped me get there. My college wide receiver coach, my little league, you know, mentor and coach and trainer throughout high school, you know, my mom and dad, you know, my couple of my, my teammates, couple of my coaches. And the first night we were there, we went to dinner and I went around the table and I just told everybody,

I said, thank you. Because if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be right here, literally right here in Hawaii. So that's the coolest part. And then also what's extremely cool is being at that hotel. And it's just this private hotel where you have all of these legends sitting poolside, drinking Mai Tais, eating chicken wings. And all the banter is unbelievable. Peyton Manning. That's when I fell in love with Peyton Manning. You know, Peyton Manning is that guy as far as pro bowl.

He runs everything. There's no NFL or no, you know, there's no Players Association running anything. It is Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning goes out there. He's running the meetings. He goes up there, does an hour skit. It's unbelievable.

He's doing characters? Say that again? Peyton's doing, like, characters by the pool? So the first night you get there, the first night you get there, everybody comes together. So you have the AFC and the NFC. Back in the day, it was the AFC, NFC coming together. Now it's mixed. And I had an opportunity to do both formats in the Pro Bowl.

So now you have everybody there. Ray Lewis is sitting over here. You know, we have all these other quarterbacks excluding Tom Brady. I don't know. Why the hell doesn't Tom Brady go to Pro Bowls, bro? Is he better than everybody? What is he doing? No, he's usually playing in the Super Bowl.

You don't go to the Pro Bowl if you play in Super Bowls, Brandon. You know, it's – He went to 10. He's been to 10. Hey, there was a couple years. You a jerk. He's been to 10. There was a couple years where you guys didn't make a Super Bowl,

and he opted out of going to a Pro Bowl. But anyways, all these quarterbacks are there, excluding Tom Brady because he thinks he's better than everybody. No, I love Tom Brady. He's the GOAT. And he goes around. He just makes fun of everyone, man. And it's pretty cool.

He makes fun of the commissioner. He makes fun of Ray Lewis. He makes fun of, you know, Brett Favre. And that really sets the table. Did he make fun of you? Well, I didn't have a big enough name. My all time Peyton Manning story at the Pro Bowl is this. And this is the reason why I went so hard in the game that you want to talk about today.

My very first Pro Bowl playing 2000, I want to say it's 2000, 2000, 2008. My first year I was a rookie, had around 30 catches. I was trash. My second year I should have made the Pro Bowl, but then they put Ocho Cinco in a hit of me. You know, they always make you wait a year. Right. So I had like 1300 yards. Ocho had like 900 something yards, but he had the bigger name. So they put Ocho in. My third year, I get it get it done we get there it's Jay Cutler's first year we are number two in office number one in office the entire year number two in offense you know uh at the end because Drew Brees the very last game through this last play the game did something crazy and they end up beating us by a couple yards or whatever so we're we're we're

young um we're crushing it we get the Pro Bowl nod together. How do you find out you get the Pro Bowl? How do they tell you you made it? So it's like this, you know, you're watching ESPN, right? And they literally go through this little, you know, program, this little broadcast where it's like at the wide receiver position. Now you have Reggie Wayne and you have Antonio Gates at tight end and blah, blah, blah, blah. So you're watching it. But what happens is when you get a little older, the teams will come to you. So you'll have like a Patrick Smythe, who's head of PR for the Denver Broncos, walk up to you and be like, hey, B, you made it.

Hell yeah. Right? So that's how you know. But this first Pro Bowl, I'm out there, and you have Peyton Manning. You know, it's Peyton Manning, bro. I'm sitting in there. You're sitting in there with Peyton Manning. You're sitting there with Ray Lewis.

I mean, what other legends did we have back then? You have Troy Polamalu. You have freaking Ed Reed. And Roethlisberger? Roethlisberger didn't make it that year. I think he did. He was there. I think he threw you a touchdown. The first Pro Bowl, bro. We're still not at the

games with names yet, bro. You know, you made so many, I lose count. Yeah, we're not at the games with names yet. It's hard, bro. So anyways, I go out there and I'm out of shape, right? I'm probably, I'm not 220 like Jules said earlier in the show. I'm actually like 240, 242. It's the first time in my career that like my metabolism changed and, you know, eating chicken and McDonald's every day, you know, start really affecting me. Right. Like before I could have told you that, by the way, that's that's terrible for you.

Well, no. They made a movie supersize me. It's horrible for you. Yeah. No, bro. But here's the thing. I made the Pro Bowl off of that diet. OK, that's that's incredible. That's that diet. Okay. That's incredible. That's the documentary. Every day, every day after practice, because I was single, you know, I would go home,

stop right there at the McDonald's. I'll get two spicy chicken sandwiches and a triple thick chocolate milkshake. Oh my God. So we got that. Boom.

And so, now that all season. Is that McDonald's? You said? Yeah, that's McDonald's. triple thick chocolate milkshake. You never had one, bro. No, but you get the spicy chicken there.

Yeah, the spicy chicken was awesome. You never had the spicy chicken on the lettuce. Just may own lettuce, right? You know, he knows. He knows. He knows. Wendy's spicy chicken. I didn't know that was a McDonald's.

Wendy's got a great chicken. Come on. Let's get to the games with names. Come on, y'all. Y'all. Y'all. So long, Wendy. Oh my goodness. So anyways, look. I'm out of shape, basically. That offseason, I took a month off.

I had this month off before the Pro Bowl. It's the Pro Bowl like what Jules said. Nobody's really playing out there, so I'm chilling. I ballooned up to like 242 or whatnot. I couldn't move. So I go out there, Jules, and we had this little dart route. So a dart route is not a slant. A slant is like, take three steps and then you come across the middle.

Dart is one step. A dart is one step. And then you come to the middle and he's going to hit you and you can make big gains off of that. So Peyton Manning loved these dart routes when you get down in the red zone. So I'm out there with Peyton Manning. And in my head, I'm like, yo, this is a, this is a pitcher. This is a pitcher moment, a photo moment. So I need to go out there. I want to score this touchdown. I can, I'm going to be able to tell my kids that Peyton Manning threw

Brandon Marshall a touchdown. So we're out there. We have this amazing drive. I didn't contribute to the drive by the way, but I'm out there in the red zone. They put the big boy in. So he audibles, he throws the one-yard dart, the one-step dart, and I dropped it. Bro, when I tell you Peyton Manning gave me the death stare, bro, like it shook my whole Pro Bowl approach and experience, man. Like he looked at me, and I was like, holy shit, this is real. Right. Cause Peyton Manning, like all the, there was other cats out there not really playing Peyton Manning. When he came out there, he, he wanted to win.

You talk about the ultimate competitor. So he stared at me from that, from the one yard line, all the way to the sideline, bro. In the bro bowl. Like I will never throw you the ball again. That type of look. I get to the sideline. Jay Cutler sits next to me. I got my head down young, right? And he's like, holy shit, you just pissed off Peyton Manning. He's never going to throw you the ball again.

So anyways, that moment. Peyton Manning, was he probably the reason why you didn't go to the playoffs? He probably told all the playoff contending teams, do not have this guy on your team. He might drop a dart route. Is it Peyton Manning's fault you didn't go to the playoffs, he probably told all the playoff contending teams, do not have this guy on your team. He might drop a dart route. Is it Peyton Manning's fault you didn't go to the playoffs? No, no. Yes, not because of that,

but because we were playing actually really good teams. You guys, man, look at y'all's schedule. Look at the Patriots' schedule. Y'all didn't play. Some of those runs y'all went on. Hey, Brandon, do you know how the schedule is made? I know. I'm just messing around.

So the schedule is made. If you are the number one team in your division, you play all the other number one division teams. So you're playing all the first place teams, and then you play a different – I don't know. I'm just explaining the schedule. No, it's not. That's not how it's done.

That's exactly how it goes. Do you ever talk about this moment with Peyton later? I have not spoken to Peyton about this. I saw him a couple months ago snowboarding and we had a beer together up in Vail, Colorado. His head is so big. He had this big ass helmet on.

How messed up would that be if he tossed you a beer and you dropped it and he was just like, never again, dude. Never again. Hey, listen. One of the things that we have to understand about these ultimate competitors i would put jules in there um julian edelman as an ultimate competitor you know but like talking about some of these goats when at the quarterback position whether it's tom brady it's peyton manning they remember everything right like whether it's in practice

you know they're not getting hit as hard as you guys are. Listen, don't let these football players give you an excuse. Some of them just need to sit down to get some help and talk to somebody. But but but look, no, they're not getting hit as hard as we are. But at the end of the day, they they they remember everything. So I'm sure Peyton Manning remembers that if I would have dropped that beer, I'm sure what it came up. If he throw me a beer, you know, after skiing and snowboarding and I drop it, I'm sure it will come up in discussion. But that's the reason why that moment is the reason why I started training

after I got knocked out of the regular season, tough season. So I had a month to train, right, while I was watching Jules catch touchdowns and become the greatest wide receiver in playoff history. You know, I'm out there watching and I'm like, oh, shit, let me go get a run in because I got the Pro Bowl. Right. So that was the reason why. So now you fast forward to this moment. I think I was playing for the Miami Dolphins. What year was that, Jules? 2012. 2012. So 2012. And what ended up happening is, you know, I think a lot of guys that really want it, they're searching for something great, right? They're searching for legacy. They're searching for their names to be

sketched somewhere in football history or basketball history. And for me, you know, it is, it is tough if I'm being honest, I, I, I, I, I'm learning to live with not making the playoffs. I'm learning to live with never ever competing in a Superbowl as an athlete, as a competitor, all you want is a chance. That's all I ever wanted was a chance to get there. So for me, it's like, okay, who am I as an individual? I want to be one of the greatest wide receivers, right? When you talk about, you know, me and my place as a selfish player, but as a team, what do I want to accomplish? I would love, you know, some of my team goals was

of course, Superbowl, multiple Superbowls, right? And then also I looked at these quarterback wide receiver duos. I wanted to be, you know, the next Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison. Like I studied them, right? I looked at their stats. I have this beautiful picture of Jake Cutler now after our first touchdown and our heads are together. And I said, okay, now we have 120 more. And basically before that game, our very first touchdown,

I walked up to him. I said, yo, let's go crush Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison, what they've been able to do as a dynamic duo, right? Playing against Seattle. I think it was like Sunday night football, Monday night football. 77-yard touchdown, boom. Come together in the end zone. And we shared this moment.

It's this beautiful picture. It's a beautiful painting. So anyways, I walk into the stadium that year. All right. I'm in Hawaii. And knocked out of the playoffs again. Aloha Stadium. Oh, my goodness. Aloha Stadium.

A lot of greats was there. And another cool story is I actually was the MVP of the Hula Bowl my senior year in college. Yeah. So it's like Hawaii has always been a special place. 2006, 11 passes, 210 yards, three touchdowns at Aloha Stadium? Aloha Stadium. You did your work. Yes.

What are you talking about? That just popped up in my head. You didn't remember that? You didn't remember that? Oh, I remember. Aloha Bowl. Keep going. Keep going.

I'm sorry for interrupting. So I walk into the stadium pregame. I mean, I didn't even walk in the locker room yet. And I look up and they have all these other MVPs up there. So if you actually do a quick search, maybe Jay right now or someone out there, I know Sam might be somewhere behind the screen, all the MVPs of the Pro Bowl. But I look up and you see Jerry Rice. I think you may have seen Chris Carter, you know,

maybe a John Elway or something. I'm like, oh, my goodness, those are legends. I said, I want that. So I walked in, I saw that, and I, you know, went through that month of training because I didn't want Peyton Manning or whoever to look at me like that again. And I went up to Coach Koobz, who was our head coach. Coach Koobz at the time was at the Houston Texans.

And their coaching staff, you know, were coaches for the Pro Bowl. And I said, hey, Coach Koops, you know, I'm going to go get MVP. He said, OK, I got you. And so what we were doing is I go out there. He's like, hey, B, you want to come run this double route? I was like, yeah, no problem. Hey, B, you want this go route? Yep, no problem.

Hey, B, you want this fade route? Yep, no problem. Hey, B, you want this fade route? Yep, no problem. And it was just a magical moment. You know, even there was one catch. If you look at it, it was like tip three, four times. I'm laying on the ground. I kick it up. It was like a poor man's Julian Edelman Super Bowl catch, right?

But it was dope, right? It was one of those moments like how the hell did that happen? It's magical. And so it was dope. Right. It was one of those moments like, how the hell did that happen? It's magical. And so it was it was pretty cool. But but the biggest takeaway from that is like when you lock in, when you say I'm going to do something. Right. You have a better chance of doing it. Right. Like if you say it, you write it down, you believe it, you have a good chance of doing it. And it's all about mindset. It's all about, you know, how you approach things. You got to be positive. You know, the same thing

like Jules talked about, you know, there's been a couple of games where I had 10 catches, 15 catches, 18 catches, 21 catches. My greatest game ever, you know, not well,

this is the greatest game ever because we're on games with names, but a legendary game playing against the Colts. I had 21 catches and I go out there right before the game, I walk up to Michael Smith, who was on ESPN at the time.

I'm like, hey, now he's at Paramount+. I'm like, hey, Mike, I'm letting you know right now that this is going to be the best game that I've ever played. And then I go out there and have 21 catches. So I say that to say this is like... You should have said that every week. Damn,

you're right. That would have been crazy. Dang. This guy's averaging 21 catches a game. I might have been in the Super Bowl if I said it every week. Dude, I just figured out you could be like Jesus, whatever you think happens. Wow.

You know what? I want to be right there sitting next to you guys. I'm going to Zoom in the zoom i don't know if you can man you'd steal all our thunder with that cool hat oh so you don't want me to do it all right i'll stay right here then you're out do you do you remember who threw the the touchdowns in the pro bowl you had three of them do you remember who hit you andy dalton yeah you have uh you are you are you guys are cheating. So Ben Roethlisberger. And the other quarterback. So Andy Dalton, Ben Roethlisberger. And then you had was it was it Philip Rivers? Oh, three P. It was Philip Rivers. It was Philip Rivers. Wow. Wow. Yeah, that's well.

Who is the baddest dude there that you when you was it that's not a quarterback? Who is like a guy there that was like, that's a guy as far as ballplayer swag, how he held himself? Who is the guy that you're like, yeah, he's here. He's him. He's definitely him. I mean, it would have been Tom Brady if he showed up and didn't think that he was better than all of us. But since he didn't show up, I would have to go. I mean, Peyton Manning. I said no quarterback, Brandon, no quarter. Like athletically, like team got another guy. No, I barely listen. You know, I barely listen.

Look, Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis, one of our teammates right inside the NFL. He does. So many guys out there. I mean, you're out there with the legends. I mean, Adrian Peterson, you're out there with Darrell Revis. You're out there with, you know, Troy Palomaro was cool. Didn't say anything. You know, Ed Reed was super cool. You know, Bob Sanders, some of those guys I don't even remember. You know, all of the wide receivers, that's the cool part too as a wide receiver. Now you're out there and you're seeing Reggie Wayne.

You're seeing, you know, Ocho Cinco. You're seeing Terrell Owens and all those guys and how they approach things. But if I had to pick one guy, I would say it's Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis, I understand why he won two Super Bowls. I understand why he's Ray Lewis. That same year, that first Super Bowl, the guys don't really want to play, right? Ray Lewis comes in the locker room right before the game,

that first Pro Bowl, and he has his pads flipped up. He has, like, his little turf shoes on, no cleats. So we're thinking he's going to actually pull his pad, his jersey down, put his cleats on later, and come join the guys. So we've got Jay Cutler and I standing around, and he brings everybody up. And it's the Pro Bowl. We're like, bro, we're just going to go out there and just run through, you know, go through the motions. He's like, we're not doing this. And he gave us this passionate,

this unbelievable speech. And it's like, it's the Pro Bowl. But he made all of us, you know, feel like we can run through the wall. Jay and I looked at each other like, holy shit, let's go play football. Right. We're like at the Pro Bowl. Right. And Ray Lewis never end up playing. He did that because he wanted all of us young boys to go out there and win the game so they can get, you know, extra twenty thousand dollars. So the loser at that time got forty thousand the winner got sixty thousand so ray lewis 37 people out there you want to win this yeah but but but look at the end of the day you know look the forty thousand would have covered that right like the forty thousand i budgeted for the loss like the forty thousand when they covered i was going out to have a good time it wasn't even about the game

but that's what made Ray Lewis so special. He's like, no, I needed that extra 20. So what he did is he tapped into that Ray Lewis coming out and the raw, raw speeches and all of that. Did he do a war dance?

Oh, absolutely. He did the war dance. Absolutely. I've seen it. 100%. 100%. I gotta get my hair right, man. How's my hair?

I'm gonna put my hat back on. Can y'all see me? Where you guys at? You frozen we can't we're frozen yeah yeah but we're still recording hey you gotta you gotta battle through the elements we play hurt over here baby um any fun like nighttime stories was anyone like acting a fool out there anyone hammered or anything like that absolutely I mean you had guys like um showing up uh drunk to the practices um I was one of those guys man like every time I went over I had my lady with me so I wasn't out and about like that and I and the reality the night the nightlife over there during that time it wasn't cool like I went out one time with my family and it was so lame and boring which said a lot about the guys that was going I was like man

you guys are so desperate you're going to these bars these clubs are you kidding me but yeah you had guys I mean half the team uh coming to those practices uh smelling liquor and drunk. I mean, they had a good time, and that's what it was about. I love it. Well, so you go off. Any perks coming from being selected MVP in this game? Ooh. Yeah. I still have the car.

Ooh. What kind of car? Well, you got a car? It's a Tahoe. Yeah, we got a Tahoe, you know, and I gave it to my mom, you know, it was awesome at the time. Right. Cause I, I think I was still in my first contract. Yeah. The MVP of the Pro Bowl back then got a car.

Now do you have to pay taxes on that car? Absolutely. So technically it's not free. Yeah. It's not free. No, but Hey, listen, I saved what? Forty something thousand dollars, $50,000. So I was able to give my mom this Tahoe. And it was good because I wasn't on. No, yes, I was. I just signed my first big deal. And, you know, she needed a car.

And I was able to just give her that. And that was the hottest thing out from an SUV standpoint at the time. Now we're what, 10 years later, 11 years later, my sister's driving that car. It's it probably has about 50 more miles left in it. Jules, you were a Super Bowl MVP. Did you get a car or anything for that or no? No, they give you a they give you like a metal ball. That's pretty much it. I'll take that, though.

That's a good question for me, Jay. Would I take the metal ball or the Tahoe? I'll take the metal ball. Wait, our boy Jack has. So what do you got, Jack? Looks like as of 2019, Pro Bowl MVPs were getting a Genesis G70. So they went from Tahoe to Genesis. Jack looks like as of 2019 pro bowl MVPs, we're getting a Genesis G 70. So they,

they went from Tahoe to Genesis. They just, they just went to Genesis. A little fun fact from our boy, Jack. I like Genesis. Maybe Genesis will come in and partner with games with names. Maybe, maybe.

I mean, that's what a true professional man who developed. I am athlete what else what do we what do we just develop house of athlete yeah this guy just entrepreneur stud fashion icon hair icon and business extraordinaire brand Brandon, can you name, this is games with names, can you name the name of every quarterback you played with? Nope. It was like 17, bro, 18.

We got a lot. Let me do, let me try. Want me to try? Yeah, try. When you say play, what, you mean threw me the ball? Well, Pro Bowl aside, we'll say. Okay. So year one, we had Jake the Snake, Plummer.

You had – I liked Plummer. Jay Cutler. You had Kyle Orton. And then there was a couple guys that, you know, when guys went down, we had like two guys. There's two more quarter – Chris Sims. You caught a ball from a simmy?

Yeah, baby. But every morning, every morning Chris Sims and I would be in the facility like six in the morning you know, in the training room, not in the training room, but in the weight room, in the indoor by ourselves. And, you know,

I'll run a couple, I'll run like two miles. I'll do my little lift and then he'll be doing his thing. And then we'll go into the indoor and he'll throw me a bunch of balls. But it was more so for him because he was coming back from this like spleen injury, this big injury. And so he's trying to get his core back, right? So he'll be throwing me balls from like a Bosey ball, standing on balls, throwing stuff. So we did that every morning that entire year. But anyways, Cal Orton went down right before the Redskins game. He came in.

I think he may have threw me like two touchdowns, I want to say. But, you know, you have him. And there was another quarterback that threw me a ball in my Denver days. I forget his name, but there was another guy. So we're going to count that as a win. Then I get to the Miami Dolphins. You have Chad Pennington. You had Chad Henning. You had Matt Moore.

You had Tyler Thigpen. I believe those were the guys that threw me a ball. Then let's get to the Chicago Bears. You had Jason Campbell. You had Josh McCown, Jay Cutler. Again, we put the band back together. And you had Claussen, Jimmy Claussen. Claussen.

Yep, we had old Jimmy. Yep, Notre Dame. And I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think that was it. I think that was it for the Chicago Bears. And then I move on to the Jets. You had Geno Smith. You had my favorite of all time, Ryan Fitzpatrick. He threw me a ball.

What made him your favorite? Because like I said earlier earlier as a player you just want an opportunity to to to be in position to win you just want an opportunity and he gave us the best opportunity he i mean really couldn't he didn't have you don't know ryan fitzpatrick for his arm actually we look at his arm be like oh my goodness you know how is he in the nfl most people think that right a lot Most people think that, right? A lot of people think that. It's crazy because he's actually gotten better. He got better as a thrower, you know, his last five years of like a 17,

18-year career. It's crazy. But he just put us in position, man. Like the way we communicated, the way he led the team, he met everybody where they're at. Everybody loved him. Everybody rallied behind him. My quarterback's experience was up and down.

I just named, look how many quarterbacks I named before I got to Ryan Fitzpatrick. So we talk about quarterbacks leading the way. You talk about quarterbacks sitting down with Eric Decker and saying, Eric Decker, this is how we're going to get you involved in. You know, you're my guy. This is my package for you.

Sending over little clips all day at night, voice memos. This is what we're going to do. Hey, Brandon, we're playing against the Patriots. Every time you have your left foot up, they're going to play like this. So this is what I want you to do this week, right? And if I pat on my head, and then we go out there and we smoke jewels and them boys, right?

So, you know, he was that guy. That's why I love Ryan Fitzpatrick, man. He's one of my all-time favorite teammates, one of my all-time favorite people in the whole wide world. You want me to keep going? I think that was it. You had Russell Wilson, you had Eli Manning, and I think that was it. Then I went to New Orleans. I had a cup of tea in New Orleans with Drew Brees, Coach Payton, thinking that I was going to go to the playoffs for the very first time. Right? So there's actually a fun fact here.

So 2018, I'm playing for the Seattle Seahawks. It's not going well. Still beat up a little bit. Get to the trade deadline. Coach Carroll brings me into office like, hey, B, we got to cut you, man. Ain't working out. But don't be surprised if you go to New England. You know, they should be calling you.

You know, we thought we were going to trade you to New England. I think they wanted me to potentially come in and play tight end or whatnot. So I'm like, all right, cool. That might be a good landing spot. And I end up waiting a week, two weeks go by new england never called oh my god you don't want a super bowl you would want a super bowl that year that's the year i won a super bowl yeah we won a super bowl that year oh my goodness oh my goodness so anyways i get to new orleans i call uh i call uh bill parcells i'm Bill, can you just get me a tryout?

I know Coach Payton. So anyways, I actually go to Detroit with your guy, Coach Patricia. Matt Patricia. And I'm like, it's over. This is year 13. I'm like, shit, man, it's over. You know, I'm 30 catches away from 1,000. A couple catches away from 100 touchdowns. Never been to the playoffs.

I'm tired of watching the Super Bowl. I think you've got to make a comeback. Bro, it's been three years. If you make a comeback, I'll make a comeback. All right, you sure? Package deal. You sure? You only with the Giants for one year, man. You give the Giants.

You only with the Giants for one year, man. You only played five games. He's trying to go to the playoffs. We can figure it out. Daniel Jones can figure it out. Daniel Jones. Oh, I like Brian Dayball. Hey, Dayball's a...

Yeah, we like Brian Dayball, but I think if I was to make a comeback, I'm going to Denver. I'm going to play with Russell Wilson. I like it. For sure. For sure. What about JP?

Huh? Who? You had JP Lossman that you forgot. Patrick Ramsey and Bryce Petty. JP Lossman. Remember him? He was with the Buffalo Bills, right? Poor Bryce.

Yes. Poor Bryce Petty. Unbelievable. Poor Bryce Petty. Brandon, if you could have played with any quarterback who would it be so I mean I think everybody want to play with Tom Brady you know I think Tom Brady would be at the top right um you know I just love how you know he's always going to do his best for the team you know it seems like he meets guys where they're at you know know, guys love him. I mean, even now, I've only been around him a handful of times.

But if I message him, he'll message back. I do have a legendary story about Tom Brady, you know, maybe I'll share later. But he's just an awesome guy. And so, and then he's the GOAT. What's this legendary story we want to hear this brady tell us the day i asked you for your jersey you guys came to miami and i walked up to you and i asked for your jersey but i'll also ask for tom brady's jersey right and uh tom was basically like

yeah i yeah i can give it to you but you know uh you know bill and the guys they don't like us exchanging jerseys after the game i'm gonna have to send it to you i'll go inside i'll give it to you but you know uh you know bill and the guys they don't like us exchanging jerseys after the game i'm gonna have to send it to you i'll go inside i'll give it to our equipment manager um and then we'll have it sent to you i was like man i know but i need the game warrant don't send me no bullshit tom like i don't want you know something that isn't game warrant want this one he said no i got you i got you b right and at the time you know, I'm not that guy, you know, I may be top five, top six receiver at the time, but I ain't that guy. You have Fitzgerald out there. You had Andre Jones. You had a couple of guys out there, but Tom recognized me.

I feel good. Tom, Tom, beautiful teeth, eyes, the hair. I don't even know what hair do he had at the time. You can get lost in. Yeah. Tom recognized me. He said he's going to give me me his jersey so that was like 2011 I want to say so that's like 2011 in Miami that was so 11 years ago how crazy is that so so anyways not that young listen I'm waiting the next week. It never showed up. Two weeks ago, never showed up. Tom Brady hasn't sent you a jersey? Hold on.

Hold on. Six months go by, Jules, Jay. The jersey doesn't come. Never showed up. So now I have this grudge against Tom Brady that I'm carrying every single year, year after year after year. You know what I mean? I got this legendary jersey collection.

I got some of the best guys. I got kickers, bro. Most of these guys that y'all see with all these jerseys, I know Aaron Foster had this legendary jersey collection that everybody's talking about. Bro, he don't have kickers. I got all the great kickers, man. I got everybody.

So, B, when Tom left New England, I went to his locker, and I stole like three pairs of his cleats that he wore in games. I was taking like, I took a couple jerseys. I think I may have taken his deodorant. He used to have his smell goods, and I would always come over and steal a little shot of his perfume or his cologne. Because Tom Brady always smells great. I'm sure just looking at him, I can tell he smells good.

Tom always smells good. It's weird. I'm like, bro, how are you smelling good? We're on practice. Really? Was anyone getting in there grabbing a jock strap? That's still got value, I'm sure. It's Tom Brady. Nobody wears a jock. Well, there's a few guys in the locker room. I used to wear a jock. You wore a jock in

what? I wore a jock and I wore nothing elseck and what i wore a jock and i wore nothing else a jock and just pants i just wore pants bro that's his pick i couldn't do that why because i mean then then we're all over the place you got to do adjustments to the right adjustments to the left you're hanging like that no i'm not hanging like that. Very average. Yeah, I'm like, are you a grower or a shower? I would say I'm definitely a grower. I'm a grower. I'm not showing nothing. I'm a grower, too.

What about you, Jay? You look like a you look like a. Sam, not Jay. Sam, but we'll take Jay. I'm a grower, too. Grower. I heard rumors that black dudes aren't't i thought they're just show they show everything they got that's what that's what you heard that's what i heard i mean that's what i

mean yeah that's that's the rumor on the streets well i mean the rumor is like they you know they packing we packing that is that is largely i mean i did shower with a lot of guys hey Jules hey Jules no we can't the guys are the I was about to say what were you going to say you know the guys around the league they're going to see this they're going to watch they're going to get on us they're going to text us but like I was going to talk about the locker room you know like we all

shower together but let's move on it's true I mean they've been doing it for hundreds of years athlete time-honored tradition huh it's a time-honored tradition it's a time-honored you just can't be national geographic bird watching in the shower that's like the rule you just can't be bird see someone though we were like holy shit i can't not look there is there is a couple guys were like it was so big, I looked at myself, and it humbled me as a man.

Wow. Do you ever accidentally blurt out, whoa, look at your dong? Sam, you can't come in a locker room and have wandering eyes, bro. That's true. Don't do it. No bird watching. Not in a gay way. Here's the weirdest thing, right?

Walking in a locker room, and now you have 30 40 uh networks or men and women on the beat um the weirdest thing is like wondering eyes right like when you know what your team makes you comfortable right these are our brothers right like we're cool that's easy you know um yeah see like brandon it's cool if brandon looks at my dick while we're in there because you know each other yeah that's the cool thing and if he touches a little it's cool your brothers it doesn't matter as long as we have socks on yeah hey sam stop entertaining this stop it and start calling you jay again stop it sam ouch hey listen listen jules isn't't it like the the wandering eyes, bro? The media. Yeah. Yeah. The media. Because the media comes in right after games and like you're changing.

Wow. There's like men, women, kids. It's crazy. Like we're just animals. Just don't worry. They're just changing. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's that's that's when I kind of get a little insecure. I like, you know, cover up a little bit. Well, you know, do we know anyways? Listen, let me finish this Tom Brady story. Yeah. Let me get get get let me get my guys back on track. So anyways, six years ago by still nothing. Right. And now, you know, every offseason I'm in my man cave and I got all these jerseys.

So every time I walk in there, in the offseason I just train and came home. That's it, right? And so I spent most of my time in this little dope little pool hall that we built. And I have all of these legends, all these guys that we talked about in these

Pro Bowl games, they're all there. So I'm looking and I'm like, the only thing I'm missing is Tom Brady. I even have the last Randy Moss jersey, the last jersey he wore as a Patriot, right? I went up to Randy Moss. I was like, hey, can I get this jersey? Like he didn't really play. That's when he and the team and Bill was beefing, I guess.

And it was actually in Miami. That was the last game he played in. That was the last game, yes. And so I walked up to him, can I get this jersey? He was like, hell yeah, you can have this shit. I ain't wearing this again. So I had that. But I'm looking, I'm like, this one spot, where's Tom Brady?

And it just never showed up. So I carried this grudge for a very long time. Anyways, fast forward. This could turn into the song Stand by Eminem right here. Yeah, here we go. Here we go. So fast forward to the beginning of the pandemic, right? Everybody's at home working out, doing exercises, riding their bikes,

cleaning out their garages, doing, you know, yard work. So I happen to see all these guys and ladies doing their work in the garage. Like, maybe I should do that too. So I go out there in the garage and I have boxes all over the place. Every jersey that I've ever worn, every touchdown that I ever caught, I have those balls, those cleats. So if you're a thief for that kind of stuff, Brandon Marshall has every single thing.

Yeah, because when I first got in the league, I heard this legendary story by Emmitt Smith. He was like, look, when people call me in the community or nonprofits call me in the community, like, hey, can I get something signed? You know, he wanted to send something that was actually game used. So I was like, oh, that's pretty dope. So he kept everything. So that's why I kept everything. So I have all these boxes that I was about to organize and go through, started a pandemic. I get to this one big box and there is this little FedEx box just sitting there. I open it up, hoping that was going to be like some check, some money from maybe some deals, marketing deals that I never,

you know, opened up. And it wasn't. It was something better. It was a Tom Brady jersey. And he said, hey, B, you're a great player. Look forward to seeing you continue to thrive. Tom Brady said, oh, my goodness. That make your week? Made my week, bro. I fell in love with the guy. What are you talking about? I know he got me too there's something about Tom just because the type of person

this whole time he sent the jersey man you sent this back then and you just missed it I missed it I don't even know I missed it I had the jersey all of these years Tom Brady jersey sitting in my garage

right so it's just like it shows the type of guy he is like he's a man of his word you know you know it's hard to find that right like yeah that's a big deal you know hey tom can i get your jersey sure no problem i'll send it to you then you don't get it oh he's a scumbag yeah right you know that and that's what a lot of people don't realize about tom stand up gentlemen everyone wants to hate him and everyone hates him until you meet him right and then once you meet him you're like god damn it i like this guy it's fucking shame i've heard that story so many times from people when they go yeah i fucking hate br. And they meet him. And they're like, I love him.

But I think that's the football world, though. See, there you go. Because I think the overall consensus on Tom Brady is beloved, is loved. Like, now, in the football world, you know, I'm not a hater. I love Bill Belichick. I love you. I love Tom. I love Gronk. I love that on the field. Now I'm coming a hater. I love Bill Belichick. I love you. I love Tom. I love Gronk. I love that on the field.

Now I'm coming at y'all. But at the end of the day, there's a lot of people in football that hate the Patriots, right, in the football circles. A lot of people hate Tom Brady. A lot of people hate Bill Belichick, right, Robert Kraft, RKK, right? But, look, I think that's just the football world. So outside of that, I think that, you know, the Patriots and Tom Brady is beloved. I mean, people root against greatness. I think if you're a diehard fan of something, you want to see other teams win, you know.

So I think a lot of the hate on the Patriots is when teams are dynasties, they get hate. People hate on the Yankees. People hate on the Pats. People hate on the Golden State Warriors. The Bulls back in the 90s. It doesn't mean that you don't love them when they're gone, when they're retired. I'm a Knicks fan in the 90s. I hated Jordan. Of course, now I'm like, he's the GOAT. I mean, what can you say?

So, you know, I think you just need time. And Tom has played for so long that time has passed and he's still playing. That's right. That's right. That's right. You cannot respect it. That's right. That's right. That's right. You can't not respect it. That's right. Brandon, is there anything else on the Pro Bowl? Anything else on the Pro Bowl? 2012 MVP performance, four touchdowns, 175 yards.

At Aloha Stadium. At Aloha Stadium. Goes out there, sets the record, takes it away from Smith. Was it Jerry Smith? Jerry Smith. Jerry Rice. What are you talking about, Jerry Smith? Jerry Rice.

Jimmy Smith. Jimmy Smith. Jimmy Smith. No, Jimmy Smith had the record. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I thought it was Jerry. Remember Jimmy Smith from the Jacksonville Jaguars? Bro, he's a Hall of Famer.

We need to recognize him. He was a beast. Beast. What number was he, 84? 82, I believe. Bro, he's a Hall of Famer. We need to recognize him. He was a beast. Beast. What number was he, 84? 82, I believe. 82, yes. I knew it was an off-brand number. You know what I mean?

Yep. Man. Hey, man, I want to thank you, bro. Yeah. I didn't say aloha when you came here, but I got to say aloha, goodbye. Aloha, stadium. I think we hit it.

Anyway, Brandon, you're so great to talk to, man. Thank you for coming. It was a great episode. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You asked me a question. Can I answer it? You said, do I have anything else? What else we got?

I thought you were done. Bro, hold on. Let's go back into history books, right? I'm not going to go back too far. Gail Sayers, two-time Joe Namath. Okay. Keep going. O.J. Simpson that you brought up.

J slash Sam. All right. Walter Payton. Okay. Phil Sims. Phil Sims. Phil. Grant, what'd you call him?

Mr. Sims. Mr. Sims. Reggie White. Bruce Smith. Randall C you call him? Mr. Sims. Mr. Sims? Reggie White. Bruce Smith. Randall Cunningham. Jim Kelly. Michael Irvin. Michael Playmaker.

Marshall Folk. Jerry Rice. Goat. Moon. Keyshawn Johnson. Ty Law. Pat's guy. What is this?

What are we naming? Ricky Williams. Peyton Manning. Derrick Brooks. Carson Palmer. Adrian Peterson. Larry Fitzgerald. D'Angelo Hall. we naming ricky williams peyton manning derrick brooks carson park palmer adrian peterson larry fitzgerald d'angelo hall and there it is brandon marshall sketched in the nfl history you're gonna be in that room right mvps of the picture of you in the room there's a picture you said there's a room over in aloh Stadium. Listen, I know

one thing. When you walk into Aloha Stadium and they have those MVPs going around that ring of honor, my name is up there. Hey, listen. I didn't make it to the Pro Bowl yet. I mean, to the Super Bowl yet. I didn't make it to the playoffs yet. But I am a Pro Bowl

MVP, baby. You, baby. You, baby, you. You're my MVP. Oh, I'm blushing. See, you just have a way with words, bro, that just make me feel so like. I just don't even, I really have terrible vocabulary, honestly. Yeah, but you make up for it when you do, like, the sounds and stuff. Like, oh, yeah, oh, hey.

You're like Coach Gruden and, you know, you got to be like, oh, yeah. I hope I'm not like Coach Gruden. Let's just say that. We have emails. He's not. We have Julian's emails. They're very tasteful. Brandon, thank you so much for coming on, man.

It was great to meet you. All right, J. Sam. Sorry. No, I love you, Sam. I'm never going to live this down. No, no, Sam. Appreciate you, bro. This was awesome.

Thank you. You got to come check him out at the Cellar. He's doing a Netflix special, too. Oh, shit. Hey, man. That's dope. I'm coming. He called you J.

I love that. What's the legacy for this game i mean it's it's cool that he lit it up but it's not like a legacy game really it's just it's a cool game if you think about it you you have so many incredible football players like in that generation just like we said a pey Manning, Ben Roethlisberger. Peyton wasn't in this game, was he? No, but just in general with the Pro Bowl. Yeah. That has to be an insane real moment when you're around those kind of guys.

I wouldn't know, of course, but you know what I mean? You were around a pretty big quarterback. Yeah, he kept on saying that. He kept on bringing up Peyton this, Peyton that. I'm like, yeah, that's pretty good. And then I was thinking to myself, man, I had it pretty lucky because you look at that quarterback list that he went through. Yeah, for sure.

That's gnarly. A lot of quarterbacks, that's tough. It's funny. It's like watching two dudes who both have good lives, but it's like the guy who's married with kids and he's happy and then the guy who has sex with a lot of hot women. I don't know which one is which. Oh, you know, the guy who's like married with kids and he's happy. And then the guy who like has sex with a lot of hot women. I don't know which one is which. Oh, I do, honestly.

But, you know, it's like two guys who are like, ah, the grass is greener. But you both had incredible careers. It's just different careers. And that goes to show you how great of a team sport football is of course because individually brandon marshall like phenom he was insane he was a top he he was like the best receiver a couple times in his career of like the whole year yeah like in the league and he was always like top five and imagine if he had you know imagine if you had tom or payton throwing him and it would it'd be insane but we do we we can't imagine what happened with payton that's that that's what i learned from this episode

never drop a pass from payton no matter fucking when or what catch that ball i i remember something very similar to that it was my first pass ever from tom at it was ots and they put in a package with four receivers of a four wide group and they gave me a play and this was like I never played receiver but they created a package for me and they're like all right I don't mean get in I run like a hook route and Tom darts it on me and I I tried to run before I had it because I wanted to do something with it, drop the ball. He goes, catch the fucking ball, Julian. I went home and cried.

I went home and cried. You cried? I felt pretty shitty for like four days. Yeah. And that's tough because you're competing in training camp and all these camps and stuff. But when you hear Tom Brady. I mean, I was in eighth grade, and this guy was winning Super Bowls.

I was like, hey, I'm Tom Brady on the asphalt to fucking school. Damn. And this guy comes at me and says, catch the fucking ball, Julian. Or it could have been rookie or something. I was so humiliated. I felt so terrible. It was like the worst feeling. So you never want to drop, quarterbacks of you know tom's

caliber payton's caliber because they won't throw to you a huge part of it is trust sure and it took me so long to earn his trust after that fucking play it took me like three years during the dog house dog house not even a paw out but you know well uh yeah this was uh a crazy crazy game i'm glad i hit the aloha uh prop bet took me a while way over way over yeah not way over i think i hit at least six so i wasn't able to sneak one in out of the gate and i i knew i had a kind of froze on us a come from behind victory did you get scared no what happened was we didn't open with the with the the game so i couldn't find a good opening yeah we definitely going forward we're still very new at this yeah but like yeah we gotta shape it up a little better i bet we'll figure it out figure it out

figure it out it's funny to me though when when i'm watching you interact with them, like the athletes, it'd be so similar to like if we had comedians on here and I had to interact with them. Sure. I could just see like, can I ask? I can see you going through your head. I'm picking my spots. I'm getting accustomed to it.

You're trying to learn the guy. Can I throw in this joke? Can I make a dead baby joke here? Exactly. Jack, did we forget anything? I think that was a pretty clean ep. We cashed our prop bet with six alohas. Brandon, indeed, never made a Super Bowl,

despite what he said earlier. We had a little J.P. Lossman talk, which is always good. He's now on a staff at University of Oklahoma. And then when we were talking dicks in the locker room we forgot a memorable moment when a fox broadcast called vinsante shanko the tight end on the uh vikings naked at his locker and they uh had to cut away real quick and issue an apology um jack yes fox said 0.5 seconds it was on screen, but that was plenty of time for the internet to catch that. Nice.

And Jimmy Smith. Go internet. I still remember someone was calling him the equipment manager after that because he was packing. Shout out, Vincente. And then Jimmy Smith was indeed 82 and held the previous Pro Bowl record of touchdowns, touchdown receptions at three. Thanks, Jack. Yeah, no problem, bubs.

What do we name the game? Does it even deserve a name, or do we just call it the... The Brandon Ball-Out Bowl. I love it. Triple B. Brandon Ball-Out Bowl. No, Brandon Ball-Out Aloha Bowl. Yeah.

You got to throw something Hawaiian in there, because that's the tradition of the Out Bowl. No, Brandon Ball Out Aloha Bowl. Yeah. You got to throw something Hawaiian in there because that's the tradition of the Pro Bowl. Love the Hawaiian Poke Bowl. You ever have a Poke Bowl? I don't love Poke Bowls. Really? Yeah. They're solid. They're good, but it's not like, to be honest, would you rather have a chicken teriyaki bowl or a Poke Bowl?

Depends on the mood. Depends on the mood. Depends on the weather. Would you rather have like a short rib or a skirt steak like rice bowl or would you have a poke bowl? Well, those are different things. But it's still something protein with rice in a bowl. I like my shit hot. I like hot food. I love sushi.

Don't get me wrong, but the sushi's got to be on right. I got to be in the right schedule. I got to be in the right mood. I don't know right mood i don't know fair enough all right i take it back fuck pokey fuck me too i'm a piece of shit all right let's score this game on the rubric right here uh julian stakes i mean no stakes really i guess 20 grand that's the stakes uh we'll give one for a steak yeah i see one because 20 grand is not nothing, but to these guys it's probably not crazy money. Yeah, like he said, they probably spent it at dinner. Yeah, exactly.

On drinks. Star power is a 10. 10. 10 on star power. We had gameplay 0.5. Yeah, there's no real defense. Zero. We can give it a one.

I mean, the offense is pretty damn cool. It is cool. Is that even low because the offense is so cool? But I guess it's not like a real. Nah, one is good. Name is. Five. Is that my.

I think four. Five is high. Let's go four. Lower. Let's go two. Two. Yeah. What's that make our grand total, Jack?

Looks like we got an even five. An even five. That's going to be on the lower side for this show. Oh, it's 3.5. Stat direction. That's going to be on the lower side. We're not math guys. Stat correction, 3.5.

Thank you, Jack. Well, star power really saved this one. I mean, we're looking at a at a at a turd so uh but it was it was good to hear the perspective of what really goes on at the pro bowl a lot of drinking a lot of fun a lot of skits from peyton manning of course i mean this guy we can't get him off of skits we see him on espn we see him on every commercial snl you know where else we're gonna see him we're gonna see him on games with names here in the future i I can't wait. Can't wait. And that's all. Well, thanks for

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