Games with Names - 2016 World Series: Game 7 with Danny DeVito | Cubs vs. Indians

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

Danny DeVito is in studio! The legendary actor, director, producer, and down right icon is with us to talk one of the greatest Game 7's of all time: Cubs vs. Indians in the 2016 World Series. Just a heads up, this is a free flowing, let Danny cook type of episode. Danny joins us in studio (0:52). We don't really talk about this game, but we do talk growing up in Jersey, Danny's sports fandom, what it's like to sit courtside with Jack Nicholson, and a whole lot more. We score it (49:01). We wrap it up by ranking our top five baseball movies of all time (59:11). Be sure to check out Danny's latest project, A Sudden Case of Christmas available on VOD now!  Game 7 is now streaming on Amazon Prime.Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I was going up for parts for various things. I read the script and it's the part of Louie De Palma. I never watched television. Yeah. I said, you know, okay, I'll go. Wait, you got to make an impression, right? Yeah. I walk in the office and I had the script in my hand and I said, one know, okay, I'll go. Wait, you gotta make an impression, right? Yeah. I walk in the office and I had the script in my hand

and I said, one thing I wanna know before we start, who wrote this? And I threw it on the table. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler. And we're on the search for the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode,

we don't really get into covering game seven of the 2016 World Series between the Chicago Cubs and the Cleveland Indians. But we had legendary actor, director, producer, and American treasure, Danny DeVito. We get into talking about his sports growing up in Jersey, split household. When my father was around I was a die-hard Dodger fan.

When my mother was around, come on Mickey! What it's like sitting courtside with Jack Nicholson. We're all standing out there ready for the ball to be thrown in the air and tipped. Throw the ball up, just as the guy's tipping the ball. And then what inspired his new show, Game 7, on Amazon Prime? What I liked about any sports was that playoff game. It was electric. It was exciting. Like a holiday.

It's a holiday. It's a holiday. And then we wrap it up by ranking our top five greatest baseball movies. Huff, you got to stick around to the very end. Let's go. Games with names and production of iHeartRadio. November 2nd, 2016. Progressive field. Cleveland, Ohio. A billy goat. A barkman. A black cat. 109 years of heartbreak in Wrigleyville.

Bottom of the 10th, two outs. The winning run steps up to home plate. Can the curse be reversed? This is game seven of the 2016 World Series. 2016 World Series Cubs versus the Indians with legendary actor Danny DeVito. Holy cow, in one sentence, Danny, why'd you pick this game?

Oh, well, first of all, this is what I was gonna say. I have to preface all of this with, I was born in New Jersey. I have to preface all this with, I am, I was born in New Jersey. I'm a sports fan like this. My father used to take me to Ebbets Field to see the Dodgers play. Fucking Dodgers.

Okay, fucking Dodgers, like whenever I could, whenever he could, and he was a die-hard Dodger fan. My father, okay. So I was like, I didn't play sports, I didn't do like a lot of that, maybe marbles was my big sport. I was shooting a game of pool every once in a while, but like the idea is that he was like, now my mother, they're all Italians first of all. Okay, so they're- Davido. Okay, so they're to me there. Yeah, the veto there they're they're from southern Italy. My grandparents are from from

Potenza from San Fele, which is all the places Maybe you don't know but you could check out their beautiful places in southern Italy Calabria right down by the foot of the of of the peninsula anyway, a long story short is that my mother, she's born in the United States, she was born in Asbury Park, New Jersey. My father was born in Brooklyn. They got into it, they got into the whole sports milieu,

but from different places. So ultimately when I was born born I was like a late baby I was like one one of the one of these babies like look mom what's we got here's a baby you know what I mean. I'd already had she had five kids and and uh wonderful two two wonderful sisters that were left. I'm telling you a lot of stuff but I'm trying to get to one major thing that has to do with his question, which is about my enthusiasm for this game for for game seven in in general my mother Was a die-hard yankee fan oof yankee dodger, okay

Okay, so you got a lot of elements here. You got the italian family Okay, so you got a lot of elements here. You got the Italian family There are like already like at level 10 Yeah, right on everything every on food on this on how Wednesday when they who's taking the garbage out on whatever the hell You know this this kind of stuff like the lawns gonna get boat. Are we gonna do geraniums? This is gonna be like this or the hack. When are we going to do? No, yeah. Yeah, it's like a cacophony of like Conflict I'm just thinking right now of like Labor Day barbecue Can you imagine heat of baseball season what the fuck's going on over here?

Are we having a straight fight over cannolis and shit or what? The cannolis were flying baby, you know, can you imagine? Okayolis were flying, baby? Can you imagine? Okay, so like in New Jersey, I lived in a little house on Second Avenue in Asbury, and I had a lot of friends who were all into punch ball. We used to play punch ball, stick ball in the street. We all had our favorite teams. You basically lived like, hey Arnold, that guy.

I was basically like, you know, torn when my father was around, I was a diehard Dodger fan when my mother was around. Come on, Mickey. You know what I mean? And like, so, you know, trying to be make nice in a family and all that. So I grew up watching like basically watching sports at the height of the conflict. Like if if if there was a Dodger Yankee game, forget about it. It was like a whole block of youth at the block and you and they shut the grid down and there was no electricity.

My house would be on fire with lights because there was so much brain activity going on. Okay, so we lived in this little house in New Jersey and we're on Second Avenue and we had a porch and we had no air conditioning, no this, that, and the other thing, summer nights, brutal. You know, mosquitoes the size of, you know, B-52s, man. And it was like, you know, really like, you know,

so we had a screen, screens, okay, and now you got the porch, no screen in the porch. Everybody smoked, smoked, drank, was like one of those things we had on, you know, my father, Jack Daniels, next to him, my mother would have some kind of sweet drink, this thing, smoke like fiends, but what we would do is we would take the television,

gotta get the picture, and we would all sit on the porch, on a nice sofa or on a recliner or a chair, and we would take the television and move it to the windows. Oh wow. Okay? So you'd be outdoor televisioning, watching the games. Right?

If Roy Campanella came up the bat, holy shit, you had to, I don't care where you were, you had to get in front of that television and watch. Because Roy Campanella, by the way, according to me, my father was Italian. Okay, so, and he was. I think he might have been half Italian or something. I don't know what the deal was.

But wasn't paying. It's a prereq of a family favorite Italian. So DiMaggio was, mom loved him. Come on, I mean, please, DiMaggio was the greatest. And I, you know, like if, in my house, if there was Demagio and Campanella walking down the street and Perry Como across the street, forget about it. You wouldn't know where to go, you know, it had to be.

If there was, Connie Francis was in the neighborhood, man, you were done for. Any Italian, you know what I mean? It could be like- I don't, I'm Jewish, but I get it. Yeah, well, you know, there you go. I'm fucking with you, I'm fucking with you. You know what I mean? I don't, I'm Jewish, but I get it. Yeah, well, you know, there you go. I'm fucking with you. You know what I mean?

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Okay, what I liked about any sports was that playoff game? I I loved I loved the World Series, no matter who was playing. I loved the World Series because it was electric, it was exciting. I loved the Super Bowl. I loved getting, that day, that game was, that was just off the charts. You're looking at the finals in the NBA or whatever. I mean, that just, you know.

It's like a holiday. It's a holiday. It's a holiday. I mean, and it starts from the time you wake up in the morning on the time that. Giddy. You're just giddy. That ball is, you know, hiked, spiked, piked, pitched,

whatever. Shot. Anything, that thing was like, I once saw a, I digress, I'm sorry, but I once saw a great documentary called, it was about the Olympics, and it was, I'm trying to think of the name of it, but it was it was all Visions of eight visions of eight it was called and and Yeah, okay, so it was eight directors

Right and they each had access to the Olympics Miloš Forman was one of them. Yeah cook Cuckoo's Nest. There were many good directors, and what they did was they made a movie of it. You can watch it somewhere, Visions of Eight, and it's how they dealt with each sport that they picked. They didn't do the entire Olympics. They would do weightlifting, they would do like something like 100 yard dash,

they would do the swimming, they would do this, they would do the that. Each a different one, each a different event. Yeah. That's cool. It was really cool. That's badass. And the way you see their interpretation on the Olympics.

Yeah, and their interpretation, and how they dealt with it, and how they made that each one the most exciting segment of those eight segments. How they were gonna present it. And I remember. Which is kind of like game seven. It is kind of like, this is what I'm getting at.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is my. I'm just doing math in my head right now. Yeah, yeah, this is my presentation of Danny, how I feel about all sports. Yeah. This is my presentation of Danny, how I feel about all sports. Yeah. Right? And so the one that I, I mean, I liked them all.

They were all really great. The one I responded to, Miloš was, I think Miloš was one of my favorites. He became one of my favorite directors. I didn't know him at the time. This was like before Cuckoo's Nest and everything. And I think what he did was, it was either Milos or another director

that I can't remember his name now, but one of my favorite ones was they did the prep of each sport and how the person, the athlete, the man, the woman was preparing themselves for that competition. Physically, mentally, emotionally. Oh, everything. Yeah, the training, the preparation.

And then what he did, and they were all, so he didn't get the whole movie to do it, you got a short amount of time to do it. And they did all of the preparations leading up to the moment when they were gonna start. The moment when the flat, the this was going, the flat, the gun was going off, the duh, the duh, the duh, the duh,

and they were gonna begin. So right up until the point where their foot was going into the the the the the and they were going to begin so right up into the point where their foot was going into the chalk block or whatever the person was getting ready to you know hold in the javelin the person was doing the you know this moment and that first step and then they intercut this really cool thing of each event. So they went through every event that that director, and it was, my heart almost stopped, because it was like just, you know, it's that level of like intensity.

But it's also the ability of the directors to capture that intensity for the viewer, which is the real power. Yuri Ozorov directed the beginning which which I think and Not to jump way ahead but when when I was when my partners and I Isaac Cher and Mark Messier and Folks that were working with me on on game seven when I we were deciding to do the presentation to game seven, when we were deciding to do the presentation to game seven, we put this all together.

The immediate thing I went to was, what was the most, I used to watch, you know, 30 for 30, and I looked at the last waltz, and I looked, and I went to this Connor Shell guy, right? Connor Shell runs Words and Pictures. And I went through a friend of mine, Peter Churnin, who I worked with at Showtime, I don't want to say, 40 years ago?

I don't know, I was just like, 35 years ago, let's say, okay. It gives you like, it gives you chills thinking about it and he says oh you yeah I hook you up with him right away and As soon as I said it to Connor he was in I mean, you know, it was like a blessing Yeah Because the in order to do what I was talking about in that movie to get you on the edge of your seat Yeah, they did it.

They did it in, you know. Which, you know, I was watching Game 7 on Amazon. I was watching the 2016 World Series between the Cubs and the Indians. And like you said, you capture the prep, the storylines of the last Game 7 going into the game, the excitement from the players perspective on both sides of the teams, which is an awesome thing. It's a really cool concept.

And the one thing that got me thinking is, this is such a fucking great show, but why does he hate football? Because there's no game seven in football. No, I know, but- This is do or die, it's game seven every game. Okay, now I'm glad you brought that up because I was thinking in the car on my way over here to talk to you. Who are you?

I'm not, you know, I'm talking to chop liver over here. I'm talking to the guy who's got the rings, man. I mean, you know, we're talking about you got you got your night is your night bro. You know, tonight, tonight, you know, it're talking about. Tonight is your night, bro. You got, you got. Tonight is your night, bro. You know, tonight, tonight, you know it's your, but that preparation, that's the same thing. I'm thinking like, and I'm gonna ask you that now because you know what I'm going for, what we're going for at game seven with, at Amazon,

with these guys. By the way, you'll notice it's five episodes. Are you looking at a producer? You gotta know that I asked him to do seven. Yeah, okay. Okay. I said, shit. I said, wait, wait, wait.

This is gonna be, this is gonna knock you off your seat. You're gonna do five of them? It's called Game Seven? What were the two that didn't get made? What? Oh, by the way, just look up game seven. There are tons of game sevens. There are game sevens on the dock

that if we get picked up for another season, I will definitely, we will have, I was gonna do one with Bill. Wait, Jack, what game seven do you, that comes up to your mind? Instantly that should have been made. Let me think here. Well, it was interesting You guys did the 2003 Yankees red sox. Yeah seven and not 2004. Mm-hmm, which both Have their own games. So you grow up half a Yankees house. It'll make sense. I love well, yeah I don't know. It's tough games the toughest game seven of all time

It's a very hard question because we're on the search for the greatest game of all time. So we got these lists We've seen these games and yes, so seeing this in doc for my man It was well so you can imagine like sitting there with the game sevens down there Oh, yeah, and so like when I went Marillo, right? Legend. Yeah, right. I went when Murillo, right? Legend, yeah. Right, I went, right, I said, they said, somebody just in passing said, oh, you're gonna do a cup, you're gonna,

well, you gotta talk to Tom. Yeah. And I go, oh shit, you know, not only do I love his music and his sensibility about the world, I called him up. And I think it was like, you know, it's like, hi, it's Danny DeVito. Hi, Danny, you know, and people take my call.

You know what I mean? I'm like, you know, how old do you have to get before people don't take your call? I mean, so I am, I've been around. And so I said, you know, we're doing this, blah, blah, blah. And I give him the rundown. Man, he was like on it, like right, you know, we're doing this blah, blah, blah. And I give him the rundown. Man, he was like on it, like right, you know, rice on, white on rice.

He was ready to go. He killed it in that. Oh my God. He loves the Cubs. He loved, he loved that. He was like just so on it. From a little boy, like his story was awesome to learn. His fandom of this such a heroics like story book

kind of team that the Cubs were to see and get to capture how much agony this fan group has gone through over a hundred and eight years or something. Something like that. And he's like a rock star superstar and like how it affects everyone. That's how big sport is. That's why this concept of Game 7, which is on Amazon, is freaking, it's gotta see, you gotta watch it. Yeah, so that's the enthusiasm of it

and how it sells in a way, to call somebody like that, who is such an icon himself to say, and Billy Crystal, who's a good friend of mine. City Slickers. Right, Billy Crystal, you know, throw him on from the train. Throw him on from the train. All the time, okay.

That was the same lady from the Goonies, by the way. Yeah, yeah, and Ramsey. Yeah, and Ramsey. God rest his soul. Anyway, so the thing is, I call Billy. Billy was like on it, like. He was like. Like this, right?

And then that damn after strike happened. Because we would have had that. We would have had that one. Oh. Right, but we're gonna go there, hopefully. Oh, season two. Ooh. God, from your mouth to God's ears, we have a season two.

And we have a list of things that we are going to attack and go for. And now, let's get back to football for a second, because I did say I was thinking about this on the way there. You see, the whole feeling of Game 7 to me is it's much broader than just, it's just much deeper and much richer than just, okay, there's a series of Game 7 and best out of seven

and we're gonna go, everybody's, you're Game 6 and that's gonna blow your mind and everything. As a fan, as a person who cares about the team, as a player, as a player. That was two teams. Well, you care about, as a person that cares about a team, you care about two teams, because your mom and dad, your father's in.

No, but I'm just saying that, I'm just talking about like, if you're looking at like from the players point of view. OK, what is it like for you? OK, this is not it's not a game seven. It's it's it's a Super Bowl. Muffucker, you know what I'm saying? Give me a break. That's right. You know, this was what are we talking about?

Super is in the title. You know what I mean? Now, this is the thing you talking about super is in the title, you know to me now This is the thing you see like people go. Okay These athletes are training their own there. It's ingrained. It's in their blood It's in their spirit, but it's a Super Bowl you you got to get that you got to do it You don't do it. You don't do it. Okay, do you it's a winner, there's gotta be a- I got it, I got it for you. You're just trying to capture the do or die moment. That moment. Because game seven, it's win or go home.

That's right. It's the last game, you're just trying to capture the do or die moment in the last game of the season. So game seven could be a Super Bowl. It's like a young man. Who's like totally Passionately in love with this woman. Yeah, right. Yeah, and he's already bought the Engagement ring. Yeah, and he's waiting out in the foyer Yeah, and and and somebody comes in and says yes, mr. So-and-so will see you now and you walk in the door

And there's her father standing there. Oh my God. You want to be a buff guy? You know what I mean? Whatever it is. And you're and you're going, you know what you're going to say? What are you going to say? Mr. So and so I am totally, totally in love and dedicated to your daughter.

May I have her hand in marriage? Game seven motherfucker written all over. That's game seven, motherfucker, written all over it. That's game seven. Right? That feeling is like, you know what I'm saying? Tonight is his night. How many? His night right there.

Yeah, baby. I would have done it a little different. What would you do? So, you know, like, I don't know, when you said going in to talk to the dad, I started thinking. You said, may I? Wouldn't you want to be the guy that says,

hey, I'm taking your daughter? Oh, no. No, man, you're a tough guy, man. You know, you go into Don Corleone's house and say, I'm taking your daughter and see how far out the door you need her. To dinner, sir. To dinner. To dinner.

To dinner. To dinner. Also, fun fact dinner Jules is single Okay, yeah, I know I think it's the thing I have a I Like and and like I say that's what I was talking about when I say, you know broadening it out Like it means a lot every day we go through, you know this game sevens It means a lot. Every day we go through, you know, this game sevens. There are these decisions that could change

the course of your entire life. I remember one vividly. I was, it was 1978, and I was, you know, I'm actor. I'd done Cuckoo's Nest, but I was like, you know, going up for little parts. People all thought I was nuts. You know, when they saw Cuckoo's Nest, but I was like, going up for little parts. People all thought I was nuts. When they saw Cuckoo's Nest, they said, this guy's like an inmate.

And so I was going up for parts for various things, and the guy said to me, you have to, it was the casting director, and I meet these guys. These are the creme de la creme guys. It's Brooks Ed Weinberger Stan Daniels Dave Davis. They created Mary Tyler Moore They created room 222 they create they they wrote a you know Lou Grant bubba bubba all this stuff I never watched television. Yeah, I said, you know, but okay, I'll go I Read the script and it's the part of Louie De Palma. And I go, wait, you gotta make an impression, right?

Yeah. So I walk in the office, and they're all sitting there in this beautiful, you know, it's like a really lush, you know, sofa like this, and I'm walking in, there's a chair there. Casting room, right? The casting, it's the guy's office. It was at Paramount, there were big shots.

You know, all the actors, you'd come over there. And I had the script in my hand and I said, I said to him, they introduced me, and I said, one thing I wanna know before we start, who wrote this shit? And I threw it on the table. Okay? Game seven. And now I walk for one tiny little min second in terror.

And then they laugh their ass off. Oh my gosh. And Louie walked into their life. Okay? So these guys are this, you know, okay, so we rehearsed the show. We had ten days of rehearsal. And we're going gonna do a pilot.

Now this is big because this means, this is a huge show. Everybody tells me was gonna be, like it's gonna be a, it's either gonna, and it's ABC and all this stuff, taxi. So I am like, you know, shitting my pants all week, getting ready, we're rehearsinging everybody's in the same boat We know we're doing it with me doing the runs. We're doing the things we're doing the lines

We're doing you know, we do the blocking we're up there with the director we have the same blah blah blah and the night of the pilot shoot there's 300 people in the audience and I get to the My dressing room early. I always do that. Try to psych myself up, get into the mode, get ready to go out. And there's a little plant, this tiny little plant, like sitting on my dresser, and it's got a note. And it's from Jim Brooks and the boys.

And it says, huh, it's like a little, like a really gnarly little looking thing. But, you know, nothing fancy. No, nothing fancy. So you gotta- And he's in a clay pot. And a note says, dear Danny, as Louis de Palma would say,

if you don't do good tonight, you'll be eating shit tomorrow. No, what were think it right there. You're bad, man. That's my game seven, baby. Oh, my gosh. Man. You're preparing. You got everything on the line and you go out and that guy goes action.

And there you go. And you're in front of all those cameras in the audience and whatever. And you you are you want to be on your game. Yeah. That's like what you go through. So that's what I was getting at with football. Like what is that like? What is that day like for you?

I mean, maybe somebody will say it's a blase thing. I just go and do it. But what is that like from that morning? Yeah, you know, Danny, I was blessed enough to play in four of them and win three. So you got to kind of refine the routine. And that's what a lot of athletes are. We're creatures of habit and we're creatures of routine. And so that specific week, you travel a week early and you're out of your, your own

team's facility and you're out of your own team's facility and you're working out in a different zone. So you're doing everything to kind of a different facility. So like we were at like the Arizona Cardinals because it was in Arizona, we're at their facility. So you're doing everything that week to try to make your routine exactly what got you there. All the little things, your prehab, your rehab,

your weightlifting, your ball drills, your extra outs, your extra catches, you do all those exact same things that you did all year what got you there. So that's something that I would do. And that's kinda, that is a game seven moment. Like everyone sees just that one game, but like you're saying and what you capture in your own game seven moment. Everyone sees just that one game, but like you're saying and what you capture

in game seven, the documentaries, is that all the work you put in for that one moment. That's the crazy thing. How did you prepare for a big role? When you had to go do the cuckoo's nest or when you had to get all disgusting and become the penguin. Or when you were the asshole do the Cuckoo's Nest or when you had to get all disgusting and become the Penguin and become, or when you were the asshole fucking Dad in Matilda,

or when you're Benedict in fucking Twins. When you had a real scene that you had to really, that challenged you, what was your preparation for that? In the movies, in the movies, and in sports you're relying on, you're relying on your teammates. Yeah. You're relying on the coach,

you're relying on the plays that are called. The equipment staff. You're relying on the equipment staff. Every single component, and it's the same thing in the movies. Yeah. We're relying on the sound people, we're relying on the cameraman, We're relying on the sound people, we're relying on the

cameraman, we're relying on the director, we're relying on each other. Arnold and I were in Cuckoo's Nest, Jack with everybody. We had 10 days of rehearsal for Cuckoo's Nest. We were in a mental institution in Salem, Oregon that was closed except for the upstairs floor was the real heavy duty bad guys. It was the maximum security ward. And so it's all those components coming together. In movies, it gets, it's kind of like,

it's extended beyond the making of the movie. Because now you have all the little elements that the director has put together in his mind. Like Daniel has done all the work on Game 7. He's put all the elements, he knows all the all the ins and outs and how is he, how is this, all these puzzle pieces going to fit together so that you the viewer can get the first experience that that that jolt of adrenaline hopefully that the people had in the stands that night that we're doing with game seven but it's the same thing in movies what happens is it all funnels down to basically the director, okay? That, the director.

So, well, because you have, the director is, the only reason to become a director is because the position of God is already filled. Okay, so you're, there are many, many. So you're God too. Yeah, you're God. You're God. Well, you're, there are many, many. You're God too. Yeah, you're God. You're your God. Well, you're God.

And so you are, you know, you rely on, desperately rely on the costume designer, the makeup people, hair, the wardrobe, the this, the that, the set designers, the lighting designers, all of these elements. Because what's important is what's in that little frame. It's the light that's going through that element. It's gonna be recorded years ago on film,

these days on ones and zeros. And then that all goes funneled back into the editing room where you and your other team, it's the same team, big, different people, the team, big different people, the editor, the assistant editor, the sound people, the colorist, the people who are doing all the special, if anything you need, whatever's going onto that element that is gonna wind up going into a place

where you're gonna color correct it, and you're gonna make the sound right, you're gonna do all that stuff, and then you're gonna color correct it. Yeah. And you're gonna make the sound right. You're gonna do all that stuff. And then you're gonna show it. That's the kickoff right there. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's the kickoff of the game.

Right. Kickoff, bang. And that you can do now. It's out there. Frame one has been projected on that screen. And there's a thousand people in the audience or whatever looking at your baby. Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, that's what coaches say,

the work's already in the bank. It's already there. Once the game starts. You go with it. Now it's just subconscious, whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. Now it's gonna happen. Yeah, now but for you though, individually

on like an acting scene, like in a game 7 acting scene for you Where it was a role or it was a scene that you knew you had to fucking knock out the park You had to do really good. Like what was like which one of those scenes? What did you do to get prepared for that in the trailer? Did you like do like a breath thing? Did you fall back on your research or the character? Or like, how did you cope with, or did you not get anxiety or did you not get nervous? All of those things, all of the above.

Everything you mentioned, it's a similar thing like what you do as an athlete, as a, you know, a player, a person who is a professional. That's what you do. So everything, all those little rituals and all those things that you do before you get ready to go out and do a scene. And all of those things apply.

And they're very very very important. I mean and and to get you to the moment when you know whether you're trying out for little league where you trying to offer whatever it is to get you you start learning those things what an early age whether I'm doing children's theater when I'm starting out whether I'm doing children's theater when I'm starting out, or whether I'm doing off-Broadway, or I'm going to Broadway. I did a Broadway show last year with my daughter.

I was really happy to do that. I need that. That was the name of the play. And all the rituals that she does, every actor has their own, and their method of preparing for that to get yourself turn your wheel the emotions and the colors that you live every day we all live them whether it's you know the pain the thoughts the depressions the elations all these

things and to try to funnel that into the whatever the the dictated dictated by the script dictated by the script, dictated by what the author is saying, whether it's, you know, Neil Simon or Tennessee William or Bo Goldman or, you know, Ken Kesey or whatever it is. Those things all play an element into that thing. And you perform them and you prepare for every, it's like every single role you play is your baby.

Yeah. And every part you do is treated in that way. Now I've done things like on stage where I've had some, a couple of funny things happen. One thing, you know, I had a ritual, I was in a play off Broadway and it was a garage on Worcester Street. The Worcester garage was called, was the theater. And it had bleachers, right?

So there's audience in the bleachers. It was a thrust stage. So in other words, it just comes out a bit and there was one step off and there's the audience and they're all there and I'm in a play with Peter Rieger who's a wonderful actor and this is like many years ago and the play is called call me Charlie and I play a guy who's a janitor who gets stuck in a night watchman who falls asleep and has some hallucinations that he's in in a Charlie Chan movie and and

but he's in Astoria and there's all the props and everything that they shot all the movies there and he finds himself in that's the premise. So I'm on stage for an hour and a half was put that way and all the different characters come in and out and in and out. And I had a ritual. Every night I got there very early, like I said. I always get to the theater early.

I do my yoga, whatever, breathing, this, that, and the other thing, whatever. Have a tea, have my whatever, and get ready, put on, if you got any costumes to get yourself in the mode, have a certain kind of meal if you have, whatever you've chosen to take that path, that journey to your performance. And every night I did the same thing.

And then the last thing, you know, you go out, before you go, you take, I'm gonna be on stage for an hour and a half and take a leak, right? You know, you go out, before you go, you take, I'm gonna be on stage for an hour and a half and take a leak, right? You know, go out stage, next thing you know, bing, lights are on, full house, audience, people are going, Peter Reigert's on stage talking to me, and we're in the middle of the second scene.

And I realize there's one thing I forgot to do. Pee? Forgot to pee. No. Okay, I'm on here. Did you piss yourself? Pee? Forgot to pee. No. Okay, I'm on you. Did you piss yourself? No, no. Here's the good thing.

A football guy would piss himself. Well, that's a different story. You can't, you know, no. You would have to piss yourself if you're a football player. As an actor, I know that's theater, I know where it is. I know that down stage right, there's the men's room for the audience, and down stage left, there's the men's room,

the ladies room for the audience. So during the scene, I start inching closer to the down stage. Left or right? No, I'm going to the right toilet. And Peter's starting to figure out, something's wacky here, why is Danny changing the blockage?

And then at one point he realizes, now the scene goes on, and the audience starts getting hip to it now. So I go down, I take the step off the stage, I go into the men's room, I leave the step off the stage I go into the men's room right, I leave the door open and and he's standing by the front of the men's room and we're still doing our dialogue and I'm pissing and And and it's going on and the audience is only gone. They're going wild

Right because I they know what's the dilemma. And I come out and I say, ah, something like the pause refreshes and the audience goes crazy. And it's a tempting thing to leave in every night. But the playwright's not gonna let you do that. Improv, baby. Improv, baby, you gotta be.

Adaptive. Adaptive. Wow, now you clearly have such a crazy passion for acting and directing. Yes. You ever think about doing a sports movie? Doing a sports movie. You know, there was a sports movie once on the books,

but I don't remember quite being a, you know, the closest I came to that is I played Rocky Marciano's Corner Man in a wonderful Barry Levinson movie called Survivor. I had a small part in it, but I played Charlie Goldman and it was like really cool. But no, I've never thought to do any given Sunday or anything like that.

No dream role of like any athlete you'd like to do? You mean like the world's greatest curler? Hey. I don't know. That could be fun. Yeah, it'd be fun. That could be fun. I wanna see the inside,

I wanna see the game seven of a curler. I think yeah, we should definitely, yeah, yeah. That could be fun. I want to see the inside, I want to see the game seven of acrylic. I think yeah, we should definitely, yeah, yeah. That's the way it is. Really like, I, no, I haven't had that desire. Although, you know, I do like sports movies. Yeah. Yeah. Now you had, what's it, you had Billy Crystal.

You ever had, you ever get to talk about talk with Bill Murray about those cubs? No, I know Bill Murray, we met each other. We haven't bumped into each other a lot, but I know, I know. He loves. There is a plethora of like, yeah. You know, he's like, there's a treasure trove of stories and his passion is

like well known for the see I am wearing fledgling game seven is just starting out now we're like just beginning with Amazon when we're hoping that they we get we get a good enough audience that people they'll go you know hey Danny you were right we should have given you the other two plus we'll give you seven for next season. But let's do it, because there are so many. There are so many beautiful stories to be told. And the people that we're with, words and pictures,

this group of people that are, that will do the, you know, do the digging for the footage and, you know, Adam Silver and people that, you know, all the people that in the in the in the various, you know, clubs, the NBA and the NFL and we have, I'd like to do a goal to Golden State Warriors. Yeah, yes, one LeBron, you know, come on, we've got to do that. That's a great one. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, please. Oh, yeah, I love that.

Do game seven of Mr. Universe with Arnold too. Oh, sure. Yeah, to do that. That's a great one, the chase down block. Oh yeah. Please. Oh yeah, I love that. Dude, game seven of Mr. Universe with Arnold too. Oh sure, yeah. Bring him back. Bring him back, baby. No, definitely. Well, Arnold and I are good friends. I love the guy. We're working on a screenplay right now

that hopefully next season we'll be able to like get some traction with. But we're excited to work together again. He had to have been pretty fun to work with. Oh my God. You two guys together. I had such a good time with him. He's so talented too.

And he's funny and just genuine good-spirited guy. And he's a good man, a truly good brother. Now at work, when you guys go to a work day, was he like just a fun guy to be around? He reminds me of like how Gronk was when I was at, we were at work. Yeah. We were in the locker room, Gronk's just a funny,

like a big old Labrador. Yeah. Just a happy. Arnold, yeah, always farting. Yeah. Sounds like Gronk. Sounds like Gronk. Having a good time.

You know, we did this he had this trailer full of equipment when we did twins. And it was like a big, you know, full of all kinds of workout stuff. And there was a bike in there. So he said, you know, do you want to come and you know, any day Danny? Okay, so I go in like lunchtime. I put my sweats on. go in I do I do the lifecycle or whatever it was I think it was level four for 15 minutes. Yeah, you know, I mean really just barely broke a sweat You know and he does you know, he puts it up to levels 12 and looks like

And it's just like so different and we would work out and do a half hour or so nice workout and then we go have a little light lunch because he's always talking to me about you know taking the gut off and and I'm always yeah you know I'm trying to stay healthy and and then you know we'd be finishing up. Of course, you break out the stogies. And the next thing you know, one of his of his his friends, people, assistants would the door would open and a big gooey ass dessert would walk in and go on. You motherfucker, man. You're killing me, man.

You know, and but I would have it. And we always had fun. Oh, love it. Oh, never a dull moment with Arnold. I can only imagine. He seems like a fun dude. Yeah, he's a fun dude. Now, what's your favorite role you've ever done?

And then I want to also, your favorite, and then what do you think is your most iconic? Well, I have a lot of roles that I've been blessed with, from Cuckoo's Nest all the way to what I'm doing now. It's always sunny in Philadelphia. Frank is the most self-centered, who gives a shit character. He doesn't care about anybody except himself. He loves the guys and his two fake kids.

His kids, because my wife was a whore So she was probably you know, but they're you know, these tall blondes, you know beautiful, you know Caitlin Olson and and Glenn Howerton Rob McElhaney and Charlie Day Wonderful people who work with their work with them working with them now But like, you know people come up to you and say, well, they'll go you know, they like the twins character and they like Matilda and they you know, Matilda I get a lot because young kids. The great thing about Matilda is that the new generations, the kids, young girls and boys pass them on to their siblings and they get to see those movies. Batman, you know, the Penguin, Oswald Cobblepot

is high on the list. There are a lot of people who are like, younger was terrified of Oswald that I'm gonna steal him away and cook him for dinner or something like that. But you know, I get a lot of that. And of course, so, you know, you can't pick a favorite

because you're like your kids. Like your kids, like your kids. Have you seen the new Penguin at all with Colin Farrell? Yes, Colin's like one of my kids. Yeah, Colin is, it's a totally different take on it. And God bless him for doing it. And I take my hat off to him for. Sitting in the makeup chair for all that time because I did it

for 3 hours every day and it's it's it's a different take on it and it's fun pain was not a good guy I mean it's not not a good guy yeah I mean I think working with him I just did the Beatles use be the juice I got a little part in there. Tim and I have done five movies together. We did, you know, besides Batman Returns and Beetlejuice and Dumbo and Mars Attacks and things. You know, there's a cookie, there's a really cool thing

in Hoffa, because I directed Hoffa, there's a cookie is a is a is a really cool thing in half. Because I directed half a and he came to visit the day was doing a scene where there were coffins laid out after some big fight between the you know the the bosses and the workers and you know the unions and and I wanted one coffin to be open and Kim was there just visiting. And I said to me

would you would you like to do part in my in you know how far is yeah what I said okay. The more white makeup on them. I made him look a little little more white makeup on him. You know, made him look a little bit more dead. Yeah, he always looks a little bit like weird. He's got the black hair and it's all over the place.

And he was in black already. We gave him a costume, gave him a nice suit. I laid him in a coffin. And I did a shot over the top of the coffins like this. Like, so looking down on the coffins, all the closed coffins, and then go past the open coffin, and then it went up to Nicholson who was on the stage.

And that last open coffin is Tim Burton. So if you look at the movie. I'm gonna have to look at it. Check that out. I love it. A nugget, it's a little nugget. Yeah. Love a nugget. We'll be right back after this quick break. Hey, it. I love it. It's a little nugget. Love a nugget.

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Let's let's let's go and score this game. And we got to name this game. The name of the game 2016 World Series game between the Cubs and Indians. You got a name for this game? We have a couple names. What do you think we should pick? The Curse Breaker? Ah!

Bye Bye Billy Goat. Bye Bye Billy Goat, The Curse of the Billy Goat. Theo Strikes Again, Theo Epstein. I think Bye Bye Billy Goat. Bye Bye Billy Goat. Bye Bye Billy Goat. Good alliteration. Let's score the game.

Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Now Danny, the stakes of this game seven game series routes, you got to score a zero to one decimal is OK. Two droughts for two cities that have no nothing but heartbreak. Oh, man. We get stakes of it. Yeah. Zero to 10. Oh, it's 1010. Oh, 10. Oh, it's high stakes. I think it's like a nine five. Yeah, it's 10. 10. Oh, 10. Oh, it's high sticks. I think it's like a

nine five. Yeah, it is. 21 million Americans watching. I mean, it's in there. 21 million. Insane. That's big for baseball. In their star power. Star power. Zero to 10. LeBron James is there. LeBron was in the at the game. Oh, he's at the game. Oh, they were all there. Every star is there, but stars are there. Oh, yeah. No, I'm saying like, I'll give it a nine. Yep, nine. Nine's just right. I'm gonna go with the nine as well.

I went nine-five. Nine-five? I went nine-five. Good. This is a historic game. Gameplay. The gameplay of the game. Went to extra games.

I mean, there's a fucking, there was a delay, a rain delay. Oh, man, it rained. There was home runs everywhere. Come back, five to one. Come on, that's a nine. That's a nine. I think that home runs everywhere. Come on, that's a nine. That's a nine. I think that's a nine.

Yeah, it's big. That's big, baby. The name of the game. 97, 986. The name of the game, you gotta score the name. What is it? Bye Bye Billy Goat. That's a great one.

Yeah, we got it. Bye Bye Billy Goat. Yeah, I know, but you gotta score the name now. I'll score the name. Oh, that's a great, that's a 10. Yeah, baby. Are you shitting me? Let's go Score the name? Oh, that's a great, that's a 10. Yeah, baby. Are you shitting me? Let's go.

That's a 10. That's an 8 for me. All right. What'd you want to say? I had 9. What'd you want to call it? I like Biblio. Okay. Where does it stack up to all the games that we've done?

Where does it rank on our board? We got to do a 9.15. 9.15. Ice. 9.15, that puts us not just below miracle on ice. Oh, it's the 9.16 and just above the snow bowl game. 2001 AFC division around Raiders versus Patriots. Seems fitting, baby.

Pretty high. That's a very high game. Oh good. I mean, that's good. Baseball needs to be up there. Yeah, our highest game seven. I mean, I do. Yeah. Huh? Yeah. I mean, I do. I Yeah.

Yeah, that's that's great that you score it and you, you know, you do the whole thing. I'm like I say, being being a enthusiast of adrenaline. That's that's what happened. That's why I watched these. I've watched them a million times when send me cuts of stuff, you know, as the producer, but I went as soon as went on the air. I put it on that big screen. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Oh, I've watched it three times already. It was awesome. Oh, man was great. Oh, so you so is that three times? So that's at 15 because there's only five episodes. So you three. Yeah. Yeah, we nice if it was, you know, seven seven Yeah, I think Amazon's got to get your shit together. You know, come on man. Sorry Mr. Bezos.

Oh Mr. Bezos, yes I'm sorry Mr. Bezos. Well. What? Yeah, I'm looking at your board. I do, I do wanna plug a couple things. What do we gotta plug? Oh I got a movie that I did with my daughter last year called A Sudden Case of Christmas.

Sudden Case of Christmas. It's available now on a video on demand tomorrow or when you're when you guys air this will be available can I watch with my daughter gonna love it with your daughter seven-year-old it's seven-year-old is gonna love this a sudden case of Christmas in a nutshell it's a guy who's got a his wife passed away he has a house in the Dolomites in Italy and he and he has and every Christmas his daughter My daughter Lucy Devito. I mean in the movie she and her husband and her daughter who's 10 Her daughter's 10. Yeah come every Christmas this year

They're coming in the summer and I don't know why why it's just and I don't know why I think maybe you know Maybe they're gonna tell me they're gonna have another kid. No, you know what I mean, and don't know why. Why? I don't know why. I think maybe they're going to tell me they're going to have another kid. No. You know what I mean? Don't give it away. Okay, I'm not going to. Don't give it away. I want to watch it.

Well, I just said maybe they're going to tell me that. But I'm just, okay, I want you to watch it. It's a very wonderful movie. And there's so much emotion and wonderful, bright, family love. It's love, this movie movie a sudden case of Christmas that's amazing and of course always sunny in Philadelphia, you know you can't miss it you got it you got to run away from it because we chase you with it now is there one is

there one scene that you were it was a little too much that you had to cut out from always sunny or is we didn't balls go oh yeah, we've done we've done things like, you know, no. Listen. You've had to cut some seams? No, we've, no. We don't ever cut seams. We just go balls to the wall, motherfucker.

You want it? You got it. You want to let those suits worry about it. Who's coming after them like with pitchforks and everything because we're putting it up there. But we gotta put that on a t-shirt, balls to the wall. Yeah, you know, go all the way with the creativity of it. I mean, we're doing one right now

that's like just off the charts. We're doing a crossover. This is like two of the oddest. We're doing a crossover with Abbott Elementary. I'm sorry. Can you imagine? I heard about that. Can you imagine?

I mean, Frank Reynolds molding young minds. My sister was a third grade teacher. Yeah. So I understand a little bit of the behind the scenes. Teachers hate their lives. But can you imagine? And it's so comedic. Like when they have to deal with these little kids

that are rotten children and then they have like their own little sub life when they're at the water cooler just talking about like. And that show has got such great wholesome good stuff in it and it's, and you put a bunch of monsters in there. That's what we did, they threw Abadel and Metri to the sunny wolves and we're ripping them apart. I'll tell ya.

You would think all those characters would have a distance from the school they would have to be. Oh my god. Frank Reynolds baby. The reason we're there I'm not going to tell you because it's too good a you know a story point. Oh. So and it's fun. And then lastly I wanted I had one last thing before I let you go. What was it like sitting courtside with Jack Nicklaus? Nicholson Nicholson. Oh Jack Nicholson the gulf. Okay, Jack Jack Nicholson Jack Nicholson was the best

Well, I get I've yet one Jack Nicholson. What do you guys? Okay, so we did Cuckoo's Nest and and now like was it 1974 we were up in Salem, Oregon and the Trailbla were playing, okay? We're in the middle of nowhere. He's got a car and a couple of people hanging out with him. We had Scatman Crothers with us. We had nice, and you know, there's always a doobie. And it's like, you know, we're in the car. What are you gonna do? I contact Ty, I must admit.

Okay, we get there. He's now a big star He's a major star at this time. I am I'm like dog shit. Like I'm just like a guy on off the still there, baby. I'm still I'm still there, but I'm saying at the time nobody knew you know, they'd never seen Cuckoo's Nest yet we were shooting it and I we go and he of course it's like an arena. I don't think I've ever been to a basketball game like that. And he said, come on D, we're gonna have a great time.

This is really one, you want anything D? I said, I'll have a Coke. So there's a person with us that was assigned to getting us to our seats, and she gives me a Coke, half the size of myself, and we go to our seats. And she gives me a Coke half the size of myself. And we go down the seats. Now every single camera is focused on him. Okay, it's the big Trails Blazers game and blah, blah, blah.

It's packed and where are our seats gonna be? Duh, court side. Right on the court. Right on the line, baby. Oh, right. And we're there, how you doing, D, everything good? I'm good, Jack, I'm good, it's really fun. This is so and so, and they're coming over,

saying hello to him, and there's pictures and video and everything, and then Danny's in the movie, this is Scatman, we're doing a movie in Salem, and he's holding court on the court, and it's just like every eye in the stadium is torn, and it gets to the time where we're ready to go. And we're all standing out there ready for the ball to be thrown in the air and tipped.

Throw the ball up. Just as the guy's tipping the ball, I kick my Coke over, as the guys tipping the ball. I kicked my coke over and the coke goes like this court center And it just covers tsunami of co tsunami of Coca-Cola all over whistles blowing shit going on people running with towels and spray buckets and this that and you know everything all the team every team looking at me like what's Jack doing? Okay all right he's fine looking at me they wipe it up they're all ready to go just before they get out there to set up where they're gonna be before the refs get out there he looks at me and he goes you want another Coke I say yeah Jack

give D another Coke probably in the coolest manner too he is the best oh thank you so much man I appreciate you coming on. Everyone go check out game seven on Amazon. Always sunny in Philadelphia. Also your your holiday movie. Yeah. In case a sudden case of Christmas, a sudden case of Christmas that he did with his daughter. They all now on VOD. VOD. Thank you so much. OK, thank you. Thank you. Man, old DeVito.

Daniel, the coolest man the coolest absolute man you're gonna do it yeah tonight is your night bro man he's so cool so cool I've been watching it's always sunny in Philadelphia ever since we knew he's coming to show so you know you're part of like old Hollywood is when he says you, when I was doing the movies, he said the movies. That Jack Nicholson story. Do you want another Coke? D-A-D-A-D. Do you want another Coke?

Do you want another Coke? Hey. Hey. Wow. Unbelievable. In the Nuthouse, Danny DeVito. That was, ugh. That was so fun.

I'm still flying high. That was incredible. You know, we didn't really get into the game. What game? Who cares? There was an insane game seven that we did a lot of research on that I wanna get one of those players. Yeah.

Rizzo or one of those dudes. We gotta get him. Ross. Heck, that was a game JR Smith was in there with his shirt off. Screw Rally Monkey, I wanna rally JR Smith. Theo Epstein would be cool. Who? Theo Monkey, I want to rally JR Smith. Theo Abstin would be cool. Who? Theo? Oh, the curse breaker, man.

Theo, man. That dude is... What a stud. You gotta go to a casino with Theo, bro. I bet you he's fucking Rain Man out there. He seems like it, bro. From all this Rain Man. I bet you he's really good on cards. Show me a curse, he'll break it.

Snap. Theo, nah, nothing to me. Billy Goat. I bet you he's really good on cards. Show me a curse, he'll break it. Snapped, Theo, nah, nothing to me. Billy Goat, hey Bruce. I've been watching a lot of this Red Sox stuff and then watching a lot of this Cub stuff. Theo, that's pretty impressive, man. They was really young when he started. Bro, full on like boy genius, yeah.

And it could walk the walk of life. What a fucking, what a leap of faith by the organization for this kid. I know this kid That's smart. It worked, baby. It worked It worked but just once like a game seven yet one a world series in a hundred and eight years hundred eight nine years Yeah in the to go game seven on the road Extra innings that was in what a game like I was a fucking early game

Almost choked it away too. The weather break. Roger Davis. Man, I remember that. I want to wait. We'll save our memories for when we get into the game for someone. Because we got to cover that game. That's a fucking really good game. Oh my God. Unbelievable. There's a lot of angles too.

And all the games they do on game seven are just incredible. Of course. It's the name. Do or die. High stakes, baby. It's a little on our turf. I incredible. Of course, it's the name. A do or die high stakes, baby. It's a little on our turf. I was going to say I wanted to pitch Danny. Hey, if you need some consultants, baby, we know games. We are game knowers, baby. I mean, I was like this close to having you pull up our Excel. Yeah, that close.

We're games. Danny, pull up a seat. Yeah, we got some dogs. Oh, man. Talk about. Oh, since we didn't talk about the Cleveland Indians and the Chicago Cubs, let's talk about some of the movies, the baseball movies, because those have two great movies

associated with them. Rookie of the Year and Major League Classics. Godin Hose. Rocker Hoser. I want to just go. I want to go make a little boat with my friends. All right.

I wanna have a big lean arm. You don't wanna share a room with Mr. Brinkma on the road. What is his name? Mr. Brinkma. Gordon Gardner. Rockin Rooza. Rockin.

Hot ice. So let's go over. Let's do a little Mount Rushmore or something or let's go over our top five. I love it. Oh, I love it. Best baseball movies, because there's a lot of great baseball movies.

It's crazy to think there are a lot of great baseball movies. There's so many good ones. And there's sneaky ones that'll get you. Yeah, oh yeah. And from all different angles too, like slapstick comedies to like family dramas to cerebral. The American pastime, baby. I mean, I used to love For the Love of the Game.

All time. Costner, nothing like Feel the Dreams. Feel the Dreams, baby. I mean, I used to love For the Love of the Game. All time. Costner, nothing like Feel the Dreams. Feel the Dreams, insane. I recently just watched that. The second and third act are kind of wild. Like, it's like a road trip with fucking James Earl Jones for like some reason.

But like, the scene between- Yeah, because if he builds it, they'll come, bro. And he saw the fucking ghost. Ty Cobb walking out that field? It's also not they will come, it's he will come. Yeah, it's his dad. Yeah. That's what he wants.

He wants to play one last time, catch the old ball from old pop. Ain't nothing more American than that. America's pastime. We gotta throw that in there. Mr. Baseball, I used to love that when he went to Japan. Oh yeah, man. Which is Burt Reynolds.

That was hella funny. That was all time. I mean, the Sandlot, if you're saying like you got to that's in there. James Earl Jones, Sandlot's got to be in there. Got to be in there. Jones is the Mount Rushmore Astor's in baseball movies. For real. It's all time.

You know, I'm a hard I'm a hardball guy. I'm going to stand on the table for hardball. Hardball gets on the slings. G-Baby, man, throw your hands in the air if you don't. I wish I was on the key combos, man. Man, that's a sad movie. I cried. It gets me every single time. Jefferson Albert Tibbs, G-Baby, the gold crew.

Keanu Reeves. Oh, such a cool dude. That was such a good movie. Like, I'm going to rewatch that. All. Such a cool dude. That was such a good movie. Like, I'm like, I really watched that. All-timer. The rookie, is that with the New York Bay? That was with Brendan Fraser? Um. Or is that the Scout?

That was the Scout. That was the Scout. What's the rookie? The rookie is, uh. Dennis Quaid. Dennis Quaid. Oh, where he's the old guy. Yeah, he's like a Disney joint.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's actually a true story. It's got the kid from Two and a Half a Disney joint. It's actually a true story. It's got the kid from Two and a Half Men in there. Bernie Williams and Mr. 3000. Bernie Mac. Mr. 3000. It's a great premise. We were talking about that earlier.

Great premise for a movie. Anything with Mac, I'm in there baby. Angel is in the Outfield. I used to love that movie. Because it used to come on Disney Channel What was the kid's name? Christopher Lloyd was the angel. Yeah, but the kid I know it's see it's that actor Yeah, McConaughey was a baseball player. Yes, Danny Glover. Oh lover was the coach

Christopher Lloyd Yeah, Joseph Gordon Levitt was the kid. Yeah, what was his name? Roger Bonman. What was his name in the movie? Roger, was it Roger Bonman? I don't remember that. A League of Their Own. Adrian Brody in that too. What a cast.

League of Their Own. Tom Hanks. I used to love that. That was on TBS all the time. So we used to always watch those. That and like Fry Green Tomatoes. Whatever happened to Rosie O'Donnell? Loved the Rosie show when I was a kid. She's so funny. Just like print money and just was like see ya. I don't know what else was she in? She was she had her own

I love she was in that episode. She was in that episode of when they were at Coopers Town. Yajuusin Larry Yajuusin and he was she was his nemesis in the softball league. Yeah the New York softball league. Yeah and the New York softball league She was like Ellen before Ellen she was yeah when I was a kid she was like the Ellen Rosie's funny She got it. She used to give away so many things too It's like diet Oprah You'll get a car Money ball money ball is probably the most well-crafted movie out of all of these. Now, there's cultural stuff, whatever, but that might be the best movie for the

Bull Durham. Bull Durham. Costner's also on the Hall of Fame for baseball movies. Yes, bro. So he's in the Hall of Fame for baseball movies. When I think Costner, I think baseball, baby. American pastime Costner. Well, didn't he play in the Miners or something? I think hener, I think baseball, baby. American pastime Cosner. Well, didn't he play in like the Miners or something? I don't know. I think he grew up playing baseball. Fever pitch, doesn't Asaf love that movie? He always talks about it.

I don't know. They had to rewrite it because the Red Sox won. And Jimmy Fallon's a Yankees fan, get at it. Which one is the babe? Is that the Babe Ruth one? Yes. That's why John Goodman played him. Yeah, I think I gotta rewatch that.

It's been a while. I always wanted to be good, but I didn't it. Yeah, I think I gotta rewatch that. It's been a while. I always wanted to be good But I didn't remember. Never again. You always wanted because it was the Bad News Bears the original. All time. That's got original I remember my dad let me watch that and like swore. I think I rented it from the library You know you get movies and CDs at the library I was getting like Bad News Bears and the album dookie by Green Day like 94 at the library dude those are those are formative years transforming yourself dude it was crazy American media we got blockbuster I could get Charlie the Chocolate Factory and fucking bad news

bears at the goddamn library for free Walter Mathau go did grow he was giving him red stripes oh my god red stripes and then one, and then in the Billy Bob Thornton Billy Bob Thornton one was good too. It was great, except they're drinking like O'Douls, man. That's no fun. I know. Fake beer, come on now. Different age, man.

Oh yeah, true. Kelly Leake, that's a badass, man. Kelly Leake is a bad dude. All right, so. We gotta put Bad News Bears in there. Is Bad News Bears in there? Walter Mathow, what do you think? I didn't mean.

What's number one? We didn't even talk about Major League. Oh, bro. Willie Mays think? I mean, what's number one is made? We didn't talk about Major League. Oh, Willie Mays Hayes. Yeah, Major League might have to be one. Is that one? What do you think? I don't think it's one. Not one. Not for me. OK, OK.

Hardball is one for me, but I think I'm on my island here. We like field of dreams being in. I mean, Sandlot is probably one. OK. Sandlot's a good number. Moneyball has got to be in there for artistic integrity. Moneyball can be five. It can hold the court. Artistic integrity, Kyler. It's not even artistic. It's just a well-crafted movie.

It's artistic integrity. Kyler has to have... Hey, someone's needs some artistic integrity around here. Hey, what's that supposed to mean? Oh, my goodness. Moneyball, five. Okay, that feels a little low, but I like it being in the top five. Four. The four spot opened up because we moved Sandlot up to one. Oh, Bad News Bears probably four. Bad News Bears goes four. I like that.

I don't think Bad News Bears belongs on this list. What do you think? Who's your who? I honestly like because like Major League. What about the fucking natural boy wonder the natural? Robert Redford. Shout out Redford, bro. Boy, fucking wonder. You about the fucking natural? Boy wonder. The natural. The natural is great. Robert Redford. Shout out Redford bro. Boy fucking wonder. You wanna put natural at three?

I'm not mad at him. You know the love of the game? Costner when he's old, old, older like MLB player on the back nine of his career, falls in love with a single mom. He's out there in Detroit baby. Then she goes up to Boston.

All right, we'll put the, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I like you got to have some constant representation. League of the Roads to be in here, too. I think field of dreams is in there. I think the dreams is in here. League of the Roads goes to and I would say you'll dreams got to go. Yeah, to League of the Roads three. Yeah, and I think I think you got to kill Bad News Bears and you got to replace it with Major League.

And I think you can probably move Major League up to two or three. No, Major League's three. Okay. Major League is three. League of Their Own's four. Rosie O'Donnell was in that too, wasn't she? Is that who we were talking about earlier? And so was Madonna.

She's still crying in baseball. Keira Davis, Olympic archer. And then what was the main league, the main girl? Keira Davis. Yeah. Yeah, she's an Olympian too. She's an archer She's in Thelma and Louise. Yeah, I used to love that movie, too. Mm-hmm. That's like was that 95 It was early Brad Pitt was in that that's crazy. That's Brad Brad Pitt was Brad I need to imagine that 40 million their own. That's crazy We go off to war and all the men have to go out to entertain people.

They're like, hey, we're going to create a... They didn't have girl leagues. That's gnarly. Pretty sweet. That's a good list. 40 million dollar budget made 132. Pretty good. Who? A league of their own.

They just remade into a series that didn't quite hit. I loved Mr. Baseball too. Mr. Baseball is so fun. I don't remember it a lot, but I remember watching it a lot. Hardball is really good too, that's a sad one. No Bull Durham, no Hardball on here kills me. No Bull Durham, people like it.

We even say Summer Catch, Shout Out, Cape Cod Baseball League. Bench Warmers too. Bench Warmers. We're getting close, David Spade's in there? Yeah. We're getting close. What's Eight Men Out?

That was about the Black Sox handle. Not that fun. It's like an ESPN-y style movie. That story deserves a modern retelling in some way, shape or form. Alright, I guess I'm pleased with this. I'm pleased enough with this list. You could move around Field of Dreams and Major League. You could switch those if you wanted to.

But I think you can go to bat with this list. Go to bat didn't even mean that good button to recap Sandlot taking the top spot baby we're getting his leers shadowy Warren Gardner I hate no yeah no rack and rooser man I think I think rookie of the year what about the one with the kid with the Minnesota Twins when he's when he's the manager? Yeah. Mr. Baseball? No that's um, oh man. That's another one that's on TV. Little Coach? It's Little Big League. Duh. Little Big League. We don't have that on the list do we? No. I didn't have it pulled here. I like that. Little Big League's all time bro. I think rookie of the year Angel

in the Outfield and Little Big League is all because we're of a certain generation. Yeah, is baseball This baseball have the best sports movies. I think it does because it was America's pastime for so long, you know I'm saying so they're what are the football movies? Any given Sunday remember the Titans remember the Titans fuck I think remember it goes up with any of these I Think it's just below Sandlot Sandlot. I think is a better movie. Dude, remember the Titans? I love, actually I don't love the movie. I don't like that movie. I remember going to see that on Thanks Gune with my parents. I look up my dad's fucking crime. All-time. Left stride, stroke side.

You got fur in the car, I don't like that. United to become a team. We still got United earlier. I guess you don't understand that. Young Gosling. Young Gosling. Sunshine. He wasn't Sunshine though.

I know, but I'm just riffing here. Whatever happened to Sunshine? Any given, Waterboy? Waterboy. Waterboy. Replacements. There's more, what else? Replacements.

Long Beach Yard, both of them. Replacements is good. Look at old Keanu. Keanu Reeves in some sport movies, and he's a hella good shooter They said he was a he could have been a good quarterback. Did you see that post or something? We talked about that on Instagram the other week. They said they said when he was doing the replacements They thought of like bringing him in for a trial for the Ravens. I don't know man come in the nuthouse We got a squashed

We need you to come in and talk about if you could come and play on the Rave. That was a good Ravens team when they needed a quarterback. I was going to say Tren Dover or Keanu Reeves. I'm going Keanu. I'm going Keanu. Here's a TikTok for us. Here's the hook. Could the 2000 Ravens win a Super Bowl with Keanu Reeves? Yeah, 100 percent, bro.

You see the replacement's moving? You got to fucking throw it. Yeah, 100% bro. Did you see the Replacements movie? The guy can fucking throw it. Shane Falco, baby. Get in there. Shane Falco? Lose on a boat. That's how focused he is. Brian Billich. See ya. Gene Hackman. Come on in, baby. Gene Hackman sports movies. Remember he was our coach? Yeah. Hoosiers. Hoosiers. Replacements. Two more football movies. Rudy. Rudy. I love Rudy. Also varsity blues.

Oh, great. I give it a spin. 80 for Brady. 80 for Brady. Great movie. Is it? Great movie. Great movie. Hey, my dog is in it. It's a great. Yeah, my dog in it. What else is there? I don't know. Maybe baseball has the best.

Yeah. Baseball. Best sport movie. Basketball movies. Hoosiers. Space Jam. Hoosiers space jam What's the Spike Lee Ray Allen, oh He got game. That's a fucking awesome beautiful movie. Yeah, really really that's like one of my favorite movies deserves a rewatch hustle with Adam Sandler wanna man is that oh? Yes, dude, what if a man played in the WNBA?

Classic late 90s, early 2000s premise. Does uncut gems count? Yes, I will count it. Bookies? Air? Air kind of counts. I love Air. That's not a basketball movie.

Air's not a basketball movie. No. Basketball adjacent. You never run the court. Coach Carter. Oh, like Mike. How are we forgetting like Mike? Like Mike? All-timer. Little Bow Wow? Yeah. Is he Bow forgetting like Mike like Mike all-timer rookie basketball?

Yeah, is he bow now or is not little bow? I think he's just bow Wow Christopher got really mad about that. Did he really after he became bow Wow when people call him little bow? Oh, yeah It's just bow. I know I think he has 37 now. We're same age. He was fucking on top of the world when I was We're the same age. He was fucking on top of the world when I was a kid. Chad Moss, why was he saying Chris? Middle-aged Bow Wow. Wow, Bow Wow? 4.7 million followers on Instagram.

It's still a little Bow Wow. Bow Wow, bro. Or Bow Wow. Well, what a game. ICDC, college, remember he was doing those heads? I know. I know, it's cool. We'll do that game, that's a great game.

We'll do it again. We'll give that game justice. We got to, that was a fucking, that's a very important game for baseball. It really was. That's a special game. And we need someone very special to come in and talk. Billy Crystal.

Maybe we have him come in. Ooh. Bill Murray. Bill Murray. He was there. Maybe he'll come do my dishes at my house while we're fucking talking about it and we randomly ask him. Who would you least expect it?

This is how he does it. He goes like, fray houses or something. He just pops up wherever Alzheimer any veterans of Cubs fan, but Regardless what an episode with Danny I can't any be also we had an all-time guest I couch is so on my all-time guest and he's propped up pretty good actually we Pretty comfy it may work you were more uncomfortable than he was hey you got Danny DeVito sitting down here. We're all good. As long as Danny's comfy, I'm comfy.

As long as, hey, you comfy, I'm comfy. Remember to check out Game 7 on Amazon Prime and Sudden Case of Christmas. Both out now. He did that with his daughter. Great movie. Gotta love that. That's a classic, like, old Hollywood guy who, like, puts a movie together just so he can be in Italy with his daughter. Great movie. Gotta love that. That's a classic like old Hollywood guy who like put some movie together just so he can be in Italy with his family. Well, regardless, it represents family and good time.

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