Games with Names - 2024 All-Dude Team: Defense

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

Today we finish selecting the inaugural All-Dude Team! This week, it's all about the defense. From the green dot guys to teamers, we'll break down each dude's season and come to a consensus on what ma...kes them All-Dude worthy. We wrap up with The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 Uh, the Patriots? Yeah. Really? Wow. They do. I didn't know that. Wow. I should have known that. They should have. You're right. You need to go in and announce the 69th pick for the Patriots. That's a good idea. I might have to do it now, Jules. I might have to do it. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman and I'm Rob Granckowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes talk about their favorite dudes. And Jules, what are we talking about today? Today we are going to do the All Dude Defense. And we've got plenty of free agency talk. And then we wrap up the show by talking about the chillest dude of the week
Starting point is 00:02:57 presented by Cores Light. You got to stick around to the very end. Let's go. Let's do it, Jules. This is a big one. All defense. Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio. All defense, the guys we used to face, the guys we used to take down, the guys that were all pros and made them average joes because that's what we
Starting point is 00:03:19 used to do out there on the field to the all pro defensive team guys that whenever we face them out there out on that football field. But today we're not playing no more. So we're going to name the all dudes, all defense team. Let's get it going, Jules. But lately, what have you been up to out there out in LA? My family's been in town. I hosted my sister, her husband, my parents, and then I had my little girl and then my boy Joe's in town.
Starting point is 00:03:54 So we've had a full house here in LA doing a lot of chores, a lot of chores with my, my dad's in town. We're just fucking doing chores. You know, we got to get paint done on the house. We're making little things on the side yard. So many little projects. My dad hit Home Depot, I kid you not, maybe 17 times in the last six days.
Starting point is 00:04:18 He just loves going to Home Depot. I mean, oh, I gotta fix this little cabinet. Oh, this lights off. Oh, we got to get the paint matched. Oh, We got to get a frickin side shuffle thing I mean this guy goes to Home Depot as much as I bit put socks on it's crazy So I was hosting my family watch some of the basketball basketball has been kind of cool I must say these new trades, Luke on the Lakers, freaking, um, get me Butler, Butler traded
Starting point is 00:04:52 from the Miami heat. Yeah. Like I think basketball is it's, I don't know. It's just because maybe football is over and, and I'm more watching the basketball and hockey landscape but I feel like those two sports are they're flying right now and it's been fun to watch basketball the hockey after the hockey the nation's for nation's international series I was sad I was sad football ended but I'm starting to get a little of my my sport fix off of basketball because of those trades and then the four nations hockey and and and I mean, I'm a little sad right now.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Brad Mershon got traded to the Panthers. Yeah, I saw that man. Brad Mershon did so much for the city of Boston, too. He brought a championship there and just a great dude overall. I met him just a few times throughout my, you know, time when I was on the New England Patriots, just being up there up in the city. What a great dude, such a hockey dude, man. And it's so wild seeing those guys because like you meet them and you're like, man, how is this guy a professional athlete? Like what is he like? Five, eight, Jules, five, smaller guy, smaller, smaller guy. His skill set is just so phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Like how he's fired to he is a fighter. He'll go out. He doesn't fight. He doesn't like he's he's just like a fucking he was like a hard nose. Well, then they call him nose face killer. He was just a hard nose, like crazy, tough little dude on that ice, man. Do you think that Sean Thornton had anything to do with Brad Michon going down to the, you know, Florida Panthers? Because Sean Thornton was a big part of the Boston Bruins
Starting point is 00:06:32 back in the day and being teammates with, you know, with Brad Michon. Do you think he's the one who brought him down to Florida? 1000%, 1000% authority was over there. Isn't he what he's like the He's um, like he's heavily he's a GM He's a GM of the Panthers though. Yeah authority I mean I knew he had an office, you know job, but I didn't know he was actual general manager man. Good for him That's that's dope
Starting point is 00:07:02 Didn't we hang out with we've hung out with Thornton a few times in Boston. I got to see the cup with him. He had like a little party thing. Were you there? I wasn't there for I met him just a few times as well. And that's one dude I would not want to scrap with, you know, on the streets. Those hockey guys, those fighters like Rob Ray, Ty Domi, Sean Thorne, you throw them, you know, they're just a handful of those type of guys. And those are the dudes you don't want to mess with, you know, whenever you're out
Starting point is 00:07:31 and about, you know, at a restaurant or on the streets or anytime, because they can they can, you know, throw some fists. That's for sure. Jules. Definitely. They can. They're fucking tough dudes. And they're doing it on ice, which makes it 10 times harder. Like. Yeah, that's crazy. It's it's a different skill set that you got to have on the skates.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's a whole nother, you know, type of balance and, you know, you know, balance and stability that you got to have, you know, when you're out on the ice hockey skates, you can be the best fighter in the world on land. But the second you hit those skates, it's a whole different muscle system that you're hitting. I played hockey my whole life, Jules. I loved hockey so much. I follow the NHL, especially when it comes down to playoffs. It's kind of like the NBA and NHL. I don't really watch much right now. So much. It's too many games. Too many games. I agree. Way too many games. It is hard to follow it. But when it comes down to NHL playoffs, you know, NBA playoffs, man, I'm full speed into it. I'm watching every single game, especially NHL playoffs. The four nations series reminded me of the
Starting point is 00:08:36 NHL playoffs. It was all fun fights every second. Every player playing hard as they possibly could. That was fun to see. I unfortunately, I didn't get to, you know, watch the games because I was in Australia, but I saw the highlights and I read about it. And that's the type of hockey that I love. That's the type of hockey I played when I was growing up as a kid. You know, so props and kudos, you know, to what they do when they're going full speed, especially in the playoffs. And Sean Thornton was is the chief revenue officer.
Starting point is 00:09:04 We would be fucking really bad to not know what he does there. We love you, Sean. Shout out to Brad. He had an unbelievable Mershon having an unbelievable career in Boston. We all spent a lot of time in that that awesome city together and had and created a lot of cool memories. May not have been with each other, but cross-secting memories. We went to a lot of those Stanley Cup games. You know, they came a lot to our Patriot games and you throw Celtics game and you see everyone like it's just, you know, that was an unbelievable career.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Rob, what have you been doing on the East Coast? Well, all right, Jules, we'll just want to talk about Brad Marshaan real quick once again. I mean, just thank you for everything that you did for the city of Boston. And the first time I met him actually was courtside at a Boston Celtics basketball game with guess who? The one and only John Dooley, John Dooley. I know he's getting married.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Dooley is getting married. Yeah. And congratulations John Dooley. John Dooley. He's getting married. Yeah. Congratulations. Dooley. Baby Dooley is just a Boston legend up there in the Boston area. If you guys don't know who he is, I go store, echo store, eco star stores, a storage. Who knows guys? He's wicked smart. It's wicked. And we're wicked wrong with how we pronounce the name of his company, but he had a couple front row seats. I met Dooley front row and then there was Brad Marshawn front row with us as well with
Starting point is 00:10:33 Dooley. So that was really cool to meet him my first time there. And he was kind of like the first NHL player that I truly met as well. So I thought it was a really cool moment to meet him there. But I am on the East Coast now coming back to that. Jules loved the East Coast. I'm an East Coast guy, grew up in Buffalo. You know, I went to Pittsburgh my senior year in high school,
Starting point is 00:10:53 but I went all the way out to Arizona. I'm a West Coast guy every once in a while. I appreciate the West Coast, but I'm truly an East Coast guy, Jules. And that's why I live out here. I live all across the East Coast. I got places all over the place because I'm truly an East Coast guide, Jules, and that's why I live out here. I live all across the East Coast. I got places all over the place, because I'm fortunate enough.
Starting point is 00:11:08 You're the Gronk, dude. Because I am the Gronk. The Gronk has a couple spots, because he loves the East Coast. He needs a spot in every state that's, you know, that's bordered to the ocean. But, you know, I've been not actually finally- You've been placed in Delaware?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah, no, I'm not in Delaware. What borders the ocean? But I got all my LLCs in Delaware, so Delaware is coming through. Oh, freaking Robbie G. you're not racing Delaware? Delaware. But I got all my LLCs in Delaware. So, Delaware is coming through. Oh, freaking Robbie G. Yeah, LLC saving my **** when I get in trouble. You
Starting point is 00:11:33 can't sue me but tax people are listening to this. Sue my LLC which has no money in it. Probably don't want to give off our business advice to the public but why not? That's what we're here for, Jules. We're transparent. We're transparent. We're transparent. You want to know what something I've been finally able to get back into,
Starting point is 00:11:49 because during the season you're flying all over to play Super Bowl. After Super Bowl, I went to Australia. I was jet lagged for like a week. But I'm finally just getting into a routine again, a workout routine, like to feel strong, to feel confident. And, dude, Jules, it's amazing, man. I miss that. And that's what I truly miss about the game of football and being around, you know, all your teammates is that routine, you know, and when you're down that day, and you're in the weight room, you're going to get picked up no matter what, because you have a group of guys
Starting point is 00:12:19 around you. So it feels good. I just started back up on Friday, I did a full leg workout, I really couldn't move after that. But then that Saturday, I ran my first 5k in five years as well. It was my first time running over a mile over, you know, in the last four years, I think I ran a mile last year, I usually just do long distance sprints, like 100 to 150 yards, I think, to me, that's long distance sprinting. But, uh, dude, let me tell you that five K hurt more than anything, man. It was one, you know, probably one of the worst half hours I've had, you know, in my life, the first 10 minutes were cool, but
Starting point is 00:12:56 from 10 minutes to 40 minutes to finish that five K man, I wanted to cry, bro. Like I really did want to cry. Like it hurt that bad her but what really hurt like the sprints are cool burns off all the bad cat all the bad calories all the bad food in your body all the bad drinks that you've been drinking but that long distance run bro it was cleaning out my organs man I never felt my organs work like that I never really go for 20 minutes straight you usually we want to run a route then we have 45 seconds off man my organs I felt like my liver started sweating my small intestine started just like squeezing even more and just bursting out sweat out of my
Starting point is 00:13:38 stomach and then my freaking large intestine was was just squeezing as well and just detoxing everything out there, man. It hurt. But let me tell you, it felt so good, man. It got me back on track. Yeah, I couldn't move on Sunday, but that's okay. I know you just got to take one of those days and just use it as a rest day as well. So I watched like five movies, actually watched dens of thieves one and two man, drop Butler.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Thank you for producing those movies and acting in them, because on an off day where I was super sore and couldn't move, you had me entertained, man. I appreciate that, brother. We had we recently had O'Shea Jackson on games with names. Is O'Shea Jackson is that ice cube, son? Yeah, that is ice cube, correct.
Starting point is 00:14:25 So here we go. I'm watching the movie and obviously the movie Compton, right? What's straight out of Compton. So I love that movie and watching that movie, I knew that was Ice Cube Sun playing Ice Cube and straight out of Compton. So then I have dens of thieves on and I'm like, all right, like that's Ice Cube's son again.
Starting point is 00:14:51 So I go in the whatever where it tells every all the actors names and all that. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, I don't see I don't see Ice Cube. Like I don't see the last name of Ice Cube. Like, I don't see the last name of these cute girls. I'm like, I guess that's not him, but it looks exactly like him. And then my friend that recommended me the two the movies to watch, Den's of Thieves one and two. He's like, after I finished, I was like, yo, bro, I appreciate that. That was my style. Bob movies. Thank you. He goes, yeah, Ice Cube Sun did such a good job. I was like, I knew that was Ice Cube, son. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:15:29 But Ice Cube is an Ice Cube. No, it's a Shade Jackson. We should just have. So you saying he should just have Ice Cube Junior on there. That's what I was looking for. Your beauty. The great movies. What's the other two movies?
Starting point is 00:15:46 The other I didn't watch. Those are the two movies that I watch. And then I watched the show with. Oh, man. It's it just came out on Netflix over the last two weeks. It's top 10 right now. Oh, man, I want zero zero day. How do you know that zero day?
Starting point is 00:16:03 Because I started it. Yeah, I watched. He's got dementia. was zero zero day. How do you know that zero day? Because I started it. Yeah. He's got dementia. Robert De Niro. He has dementia. He's got something going on. Is this is this sci fi? Mm hmm. Is this sci fi or is it? I'm still I'm it takes me. It takes me.
Starting point is 00:16:19 On a 45 minute episode, it'll take me three nights to watch it. Mm hmm. Why is that? It'll take me three nights, because I fall asleep after 10 minutes and then I got to rewatch and then I'll watch like a, it takes me so much time to focus on those. So like I'm halfway through the second episode and I'm still wondering if this is dementia
Starting point is 00:16:39 or if this is sci-fi. I feel like it's, you know, the character that he's playing and that he has possibly the first signs of dementia. Or, or. I don't think Robert, I don't think Robert De Niro Jr. is doing sci-fi right now. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Or Robert, Robert. No, you're all confused because of Ice Cube Junior. Robert De Niro and Ice Cube. It's not Robert De Niro, Junior. It's just Robert De Niro. All right. It's it's a fresh Monday. I have my folks just got out of town. I had them in town for eight days. I'm flustered right now. I mean, I understand. But let's transition into.
Starting point is 00:17:22 How about Jimmy Johnson retiring? Jules, I mean, it was a shocker, but it wasn't, you know, really a shocker because, you know, Jimmy Johnson's, you know, been going forever. You know, he's 81, 82 years old, but it just didn't feel real that he retired because he's been there for so long. And what Jimmy Johnson brought to the table, you know, will never be replaced. There's no doubt about that. And I was just fortunate enough to work with Jimmy Johnson just a few times this year because when he was on, I was off. And when I was on air, he was off that weekend.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And then we got to work the playoffs together. So that's when I really got to know Jimmy Johnson because I never truly worked with him on a continuous basis. And I finally got to do that. So it was an honor to be with him his last four, five weeks of his career at, you know, at the NFL pregame kickoff show. And what I loved about Jimmy Johnson is just that, you know, that mindset that he brought to the table, that smile that he brought every single morning. Yes. End of the day, that smile was gone. And he, and he recognized that. And he told everyone that smile is not going to be there end of day because he's a morning person but in the morning man he had a smile from
Starting point is 00:18:48 here to here and it just brightened up my day whenever I saw that but the way that guy can just tell stories is second to none man I can sit there all day and listen to him tell stories for six hours straight bro He's just that good at it. He's got a memory that's, you know, goes to the moon and back. Yes, he can remember every single thing that happened all details that happened from, you know, throughout his whole entire career. And the way he just tells those stories to it keeps you at the edge of your seat. And
Starting point is 00:19:22 you're just there to listen to them and just enjoy them. So thank you, Jimmy Johnson, for everything that you have done and just leaving impact on my journey and life forever, even though we didn't get to work together every single weekend. Without a doubt, Jimmy was. Jimmy's like a football god, man. If you think about it, he's hit like the big three. He's won a national championship in college, won Super Bowls
Starting point is 00:20:00 as a head coach, GM, and then he also had an insane media career. And to top it, to top it, he probably has the best hairline. In the history of TV, that guy has a like his gray hairline. I remember we were, we were at Baker or wherever we went to, we had a Bahamas trip and it was flowing. We were doing some frin survivor team building thing. Remember that? Mm hmm. I do. And the Bahamas over there, he was in his full survivor mode because he's done like three or four seasons of that survivor and almost won it wherever.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I don't know for a fact, but he did a bunch of those survivor things. And Jimmy was leading us. He had pregame talks and the wind was blowing. He had his shirt off. I think he had like a little, you know, bandana on. And I just saw his hair flowing in the air with the beach at the beach. I'm like, man. That that guy's got great hair.
Starting point is 00:20:59 He does. But who has a better hairline? Jimmy Johnson or Mel Kiper Jr.? I think Terry Bradshaw. No, it was such a pleasure. And it was such a treat for us for me to get to watch Jimmy Johnson work. I'd watch games with them every Sunday. You know, I'd watch the first set of games and then they go do the show
Starting point is 00:21:26 and just being a fly on the wall, watching. See, look at that hairline being a fly on the wall, watching. Oh, you know, how we Michael. Terry, Jimmy, Kurt J. Watching them all intermingle and. And talk to each other and talk about the show and talk about it just felt like a locker room and it was really cool to get to be able to watch that and be a part of that for a couple years and and you know this last Super Bowl I already kind of set told the story but Jimmy
Starting point is 00:22:04 threw me a nugget. It was my first time going and watching a practice. I went to the Chiefs practice pregame of the Super Bowl just to kind of talk with people, get stuff insight for the game for the show that we're about to do the pregame. And we were in that production meeting and Jimmy throughout, you know, he goes, hey, Jules, remember, you know, we were sitting next to each and he was talking about Juju.
Starting point is 00:22:25 He gave me this little nugget. He says, you could use that. And like, I was like, oh, that was perfect. And then I used it in the show. And you know, Jimmy was just always a, just, he's a coach. He coached me right there. And he was a great coach at it.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And like you said in the morning, I was an early bird. I get into the, I get in the show early and we have an earlier production meeting than than the big show. And I go up and grab a coffee and Jimmy Johnson at like 5 a.m. Just sitting there, like you said, ear to ear smile. Freaking as a coach, I think he knew the weather report. He was talking football. We know he's talked something about, you think he knew the weather report. He was talking football. We'd always talk something about, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:07 what was going on and you know, you're gonna miss those days. And I do remember Terry Bradshaw and Howie Long telling a story where when they said Jimmy was retiring, they had a, remember they had a, they had a farewell dinner last year. It was about, it was about four or five years ago. This happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And they found out he was he was coming back. So they left the goddamn dinner. So those guys, it's been an absolute treat. We love we love you, Jimmy. And we appreciate all the insight and the knowledge you've given, not just to us, but the viewer, players, coaches. He's just given a lot of insight of what he's learned from this game through the years that he's been in it and he's delivered it to everyone else. We love you, Jimmy. Yes, that's for sure. Jimmy Johnson, we
Starting point is 00:24:02 appreciate everything that you have done for the game of football. You will be missed, but you will always be remembered, my man. Thank you. Appreciate everything you have done. He's led heroes. I remember Jimmy. The legends never die. And he's a legend. He's a legend. Are you taking the are you taking the big spot now? Are you are you full time there?
Starting point is 00:24:25 You know, Jules, I'm just going to keep doing what I've been doing, my man. You know, I have another year left on my deal, and it's the same exact deal that I had last year being part time. Thirteen, no, nine appearances during the season, then all four playoffs. And it's a great gig that I have. And I'm just going to sit back. Fox knows what they have with me. So I'm just gonna sit back, relax.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And if Fox wants me to go full time, hey, I'm cool to go full time. If Fox just wants me to play out the year, I'm cool to play out the year this year. Part time again, man. So whatever it is, it is. Very content with where I'm at right now with everything. But I'm just gonna play it off and how it is right now and just do the best with whatever's going on.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I like that answer. I appreciate that Jules. I appreciate that man. I like that answer. It's kind of like, you know, could just control what you can control Jules. That's what I'm going to do. We learned that with coach Belichick a lot, just control the, you know, variables that, you know, that can make you better. And, and that's what I'm doing here as well. You know, on the broadcast team. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Speaking of coach Belichick, the off season. Coach Belichick is already hitting. It's hitting big time. I mean, this guy has had one of the biggest off seasons I've ever seen in my life. He's he's making a splash every single weekend. I mean, coach always worked on us. Hold Ralphie.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Even Ralphie's getting in on this action. He loved what I mean. He's been doing Sargon. Yeah, he loves getting loud. But just the way that he's presenting himself, I kind of like it a lot. Jules, because he kind of like I saw him. He switched back though. When he started spring practice, you see the spring practice at North Carolina. LTs there is a bunch of hype and and then they were asking him questions.
Starting point is 00:26:22 He went right back. He went right back to old Bill. Hey, we're gonna, it's good to have a football out here. You know, we haven't even been able to do that. Look, we're just trying to learn the game. You know. Well, you know, Jules, I think we should, you know, help him out a little bit. You know, we should make I think we should, you know, help him out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:26:45 You know, we should walk. We should make a trip down to Chapel Hill. If we have time. I mean, of course. I mean, what I've done for you guys, Jules, I gave you a career, you know, Grak, I drafted you. I think you guys should come to Chapel Hill and help me out and show these guys how it's done. He probably shows some mean hell of a frat party. I bet I bet he's dialed.
Starting point is 00:27:12 He's dialed with the frat party. What do you think a weekend at UNC would look like if we went down there? Jules, I mean, of course, we would hit practice, talk to the guys, all that good stuff. But what do you see? How would it look in your eyes? You know, I've heard they have a pretty nice library I'd like to go see. You know, I heard there's a couple
Starting point is 00:27:37 historical landmark halls there that I would I heard it's a beautiful campus, you know, especially with right now in the spring. I bet you it's beautifully. Popping right now with the trees coming back, maybe I would say water some flowers to keep the campus looking beautiful. Plant some trees, jewels, plants, plants, a good idea. Yeah. Keep the air. Do we just hit frat row and just fucking go
Starting point is 00:28:05 crazy with kids. Beer pong. That's beer. That's just called a nice stroll down Franklin Street. Jules. Is that what it is? Yes. Franklin Street and you and you and see I know I know all the good spots. Look at Rob. That's the fucking street. Chapel Hill, Franklin Street. We'll see you soon. Oh shit. How about DK going to goddamn Steelers? All right, Jules. Here's my take right now. There has been more action three days prior to
Starting point is 00:28:40 free agency than I've ever seen before in my life. Guys are getting contract extensions. players are getting trading, getting new contracts that are making them a top five paid player at that position. And here's my take on why there's so many transactions right now before free agency hits. It's because the free agent market is so mediocre right now. There's no one mediocre, mediocre. Exactly. That's what I was trying to say. Jules just like my speaking skills, mediocre,
Starting point is 00:29:11 but that's okay. The free agency, there's no player that should be the highest paid player in my opinion. That's a free agent right now going into free agency. I think there's some good players, but I don't think there's a player that's going to change your team, you know, or be or should be the highest paid player at that position. So that's why I feel like there's so much, you know, going on and so many transactions going on right now because of
Starting point is 00:29:40 that reason. Jules, what do you think? Oh, man, Chris Godwin got 66 million, 44 guaranteed. Really? That just happened. Did that just go down right now from who? The Tampa Bay now? But that's a Tampa Bay Bucks. All right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. But Chris Godwin, I would actually say he left 20 million on the table. Really? How do you leave 20 million on the table? Pat's offered him 20 million more.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Oh geez. But I mean, why would you, why would you, you know, switch up your scenario? I mean, you're with the bucks, you know, the offense, you got Baker Mayfield, Tampa, just a great city overall. You got the weather. You've been familiar with it for your whole entire career. Weather is everything and he's getting older, I think. when you're that when you're that old when you when you've been in a place
Starting point is 00:30:28 for so long and that money is probably not that much more. It's it probably was 20 million dollars on a non guaranteed. He could have earned more money. I'm sure they got it close to the guarantee. There's no way you want to go learn a new offense, learn a new Uproot your family like that's a great move for him miles like with what you were saying I agree a lot of these signings are probably of The lot of these signs like the Max Crosby miles Garrett Josh Allen those are some of the best players So I bet you those teams did that before free agency because that number is probably going
Starting point is 00:31:06 to go even that much higher. The longer they wait for those three guys, Max Crosby, Josh Allen, Miles Garrett, those three guys like they, those teams have to get them done. And I think they're also probably trying to create a little cap space with the bills, extending them because they get to pro rate that, that contract over those next five years as well. So I think he's going to be a less of a hit even though he's getting a contract extension for these next couple years. Josh Allen. I don't know for a fact, but that's what it kind of looks like. I don't know. What were you going to say, Rob?
Starting point is 00:31:42 I was going to say that's back to my point. You see these teams taking care of the guys that are the best in the league right now, instead of waiting for free agency to pick someone up because I they're realizing, hey, we already have the best player, and, you know, at that position in the league. Why are we going to go get free agency and sign a guy when we can sign our guy that should be on this team for good? And that's what the Raiders did with Max Crosby. That's what the Buffalo Bills did with Josh Allen. The
Starting point is 00:32:09 Cleveland Browns did that with Myles Garrett, which was a really kind of contrary, contradictory situation. How do you say that word contradiction situ situation jewels with that because my old Garrett asked for a trade to a contender and then he signed the biggest deal in NFL history of a non QB. I kind of want to hear his explanation with that when he gets asked that, you know, by the media smart is going to be asset. Did he just say that to use that as leverage maybe big
Starting point is 00:32:39 or did he really want to go to a contender? Because if you want to go to a contender, I don't think the Cleveland Browns are in are in the position to contend for a Super Bowl, Jules. And then I think I think that he wanted to get out of there. And they just said, no, here's 30 million a year. Shut up and stay. Now he can just take a five.
Starting point is 00:32:57 He can take a he can take a board out of there whenever he wants. Now, whenever he has a day off, he has 24 hours off. He can get out of there and it won't even affect his bank account anymore. Those PJs, that's how much money he's making. And then Chris Godwin, I mean, back to my free agency, he was the best wide receiver in the free agency class coming up, but he never even hit free agency. Really think about it, because that starts Wednesday, and the Tampa Bay engineers The team here is just, just signed them already cause they were smart and they knew they shouldn't let them go. Uh, and you know,
Starting point is 00:33:29 what makes them so special is that he's so consistent as well. He's such a great teammate, you know, on the field, great teammate, off the field, just a great overall guy. Uh, he works hard. He, you know, he goes out to practice with a purpose to get better, uh, to know what he has to do. He's very, very reliable whenever his number is called. He knows how to make big plays and big moments as well. It's just very unfortunate what happened to him last year with that injury,
Starting point is 00:33:56 with a couple minute or two left in the game when they're getting blown out. But that's just football that happens, but it's good to see him back in Tampa. He deserves to retire as a Tampa Bay Buccaneer for everything that he has done for the community here and for the team and just Chris Godwin. Congratulations, man, on that contract. Shout out to Tampa Bay for taking care of a player that even though he got hurt. Mm hmm. Well, that's a couple of a couple of times they got hurt. Yeah, that didn't really go your way, Jules didn't go. We were back in those. I
Starting point is 00:34:29 guess they didn't pay then. Um, how about Tommy getting Gino Smith? I think that kind of makes sense. You know, bridge quarterback. Yeah, you know. And then also, you got Pete Carroll as the head coach there. And Pete Carroll is the one who brought Gino Smith in and, and gave him that second chance and made his second chance a resurrection on his quarterback career. And now he got traded to the Raiders. So he's teaming back up with Pete Carroll. So I think, you know, it's a good situation. Kelly can use them. Chip Kelly's OC. Chip Kelly. He's the OC. Wow. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:35:06 So I knew he was at Ohio State, won that national championship. And then he was also the head coach at UCLA because I know that because he was in my bowl game, the L.A. bowl. And he won it, you know, two years ago. But Chip Kelly's all over the place. I think Chip Kelly is a guy that has enough experience, that knows how to handle, you know, any quarterback in any situation. So I think I Mean, this is a good trade. They don't have a fucking quarterback under roster. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:35:34 So, you know, yeah, you have third round pick, you know what you're getting with Geno Smith He'll be a guy that you know Can can get the offense going, but also he's not an asshole, it looks like, with other quarterbacks. So if they draft someone or they get a, I mean, he has fought. He has fought a player on his team.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And for the Jets, he fought one of the guys. But he grew up a lot after that. Like, he's grown up and he's a completely different player from that, but he brings at least someone that can run an NFL operation in the. They have no one. They don't have anyone. So, you know, I think that was a great pickup. I'm still interested to see what they do in the in the draft.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Raiders are getting to become excited. I think the Rams getting Devante Adams. That could be sneaky, really good. They struggled in to become excited. I think the Rams getting Devontae Adams, that could be sneaky, really good. They struggled in the red area. He's a really good red area target. Him and Puka are gonna be fun. Puka Nakua, he's gonna be able to, I think this is gonna make Puka better.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Because you get to learn from, you know, a guy like Devontae Adams who you know he's a pro he's been in there for a while I got to hang out with Puka at the Pepsi event at the Super Bowl and he was such a cool kid just like he's a he's a Vegas bro works hard think we're ripping a vape together. He's just fun. He was just a fun dude that like loves. You could tell he loves to work hard.
Starting point is 00:37:11 He's fucking young. He's got a lot of energy, bro. My type of guy. I want any Kahoop and he's Polly. Like he lives right down the street. I got to get Puka to the house. I got to get over the house, bro, bro, right before you just told that story about you meeting him at the Super
Starting point is 00:37:31 Bowl. I was literally just gonna say the same thing that I met Puka Nakua, you know, at the K Adam show at the Super Bowl this year. And we're in the back room together in the green room. And man, let me tell you, I love that guy, Jules. He might be my favorite wide receiver in the NFL now, dude. He was just a dude's dude. And he was just so cool. He was laid back.
Starting point is 00:37:57 You know, he was a free spirit. I really wish that he was on the New England Patriots. But he likes to work. Yeah, he loves to work. Tell he likes to work. Obviously, you don't become that, you know, that was on the New England Patriots, but he likes to work. Yeah. It loves to work. Tell. He likes to work. Obviously you don't become that, you know, that's solid on the field without working hard, but also he loves to have fun too. And it just seems like he's got, you know, the right, the right
Starting point is 00:38:16 chip on his shoulder and just straight as well. He would have been great. Wow. He would have been the best man. I love that. I love meeting him. The Foucault is was a we called a house in Foxborough. The Foucault were like we were all younger players at the time and we all used to congregate and hang out after fucking like spring meetings. We played cornhole. We gamble. We go, you know, do stupid shit.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Like the Fuqua's where it was at. And he is a fucking Fuqua member for sure. Dane Fletcher, Nico Koudavides, Shane Fareen, Ventrone, Gronk. We'd always make fun of Ninkovic. Niko was the outcaster, always trying to get in. Yeah, no, Ninkovic would literally, we'd be having like a little shin dig at the Fouke,
Starting point is 00:39:15 and Niko would come with his big ass Great Dane, he'd be walking around at like 9.30 at night, he'd be like, hey guys, Paige is, I'm on a walk, let me, give me a shot, let me get a shot. Remember he would stack three shots, he's like, all right, Paige is gonna kill me, I gotta go. And he'd go walk home, and two hours later, he'd come back with the dog, he's like,
Starting point is 00:39:37 yeah, I'm taking the dog to take a shit right now. Let me take, he'd rip another shot, then he'd go back to his house, like Niko. Let's go, Niko, what are we doing? It's the same old Niko to this day as well. Same old Niko. To this day. But Puka, Puka looks like a guy
Starting point is 00:39:55 that would have been in the phook. He would have been in the phook. 100%. Puka, keep it up my man, keep it up. Oh, Pat's making some moves, bro. Mm hmm. Pat's making some moves, spending some of that guap, that Gouda, that Cheta. All right, Jules, I got a question real quick, though.
Starting point is 00:40:16 So today's Monday. Free agency technically doesn't start till Wednesday, but is today the day that they can start talking to the teams? And I think it's the tampering period. Yeah, it's where you can talk to the teams and come up with an agreement on a contract, but technically you're not allowed to sign it until Wednesday. Is that how it works officially? I I believe so.
Starting point is 00:40:36 The legal tampering period is three, 10 to 312. This is it's the stupidest rule ever. They basically make the contract two days before free agency All right, but it is what it is. Pat's are signing guys Carlton Davis three years sixty million dollars thirty five Thirty four point five guaranteed played with you in Tampa. Is that a good signing? Yeah, that's a great sign and Carlton Davis still has some you know left in the tank. no doubt about that. And when I got down to Tampa, I didn't know who Carlton Davis was. He was young. You know, he was a young buck, you know, just trying to make a name for himself. And I was literally like, who is this DB that we got on the roster? He's tall, he's a little bit skinny, but like, he has that dump to him, you know, he has that strength to him, not necessarily weight room strength, but he has that football strength like leverage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Long leverage strength. And those are the hardest DBs, I believe, you know, to get open versus that are taller, skinnier, lengthy, but are quick too. And that's what Carlton Davis brings to the table is those, you know, traits right there. So that's a really good signing by the New England Patriots. And that's going to be a dual right there. Christian Gonzalez and Carlton Davis lined up at the defensive back position for the New England Patriots in the backfield.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Let me tell you then they're not going to be a lot of teams throwing on these guys, you know, that's two corners. And then they also got, you know, Harold Landry, edge rusher, if you get a guy to get a little pressure on that quarterback, that's when the interceptions come flying when you have a good secondary. So, you know, someone, he's a variable guy, played with variable in Tennessee, three years,
Starting point is 00:42:19 43.5 million, 26 guaranteed. And then I think this is a really good signing the Morgan Moses Signing three years 24 million veteran right tackle Started 14 games last year with the Jets. I expect that they got to get more line. I Anytime you're adding to the line young quarterback Anytime you're adding to the line, young quarterback, it's like cowbell, more line. We need more cowbell, more line, more line, more line. The game, look at all the greatest teams this year,
Starting point is 00:42:52 last year, they all had the best offensive lines. Philadelphia, Detroit, the Lions had a young offensive line that they've been developing that has become very good in the run game. They're not in that same category, but the Chiefs, they had a really good offensive line, makeshift at the end because they got banged up. That's why they've had a lot of success. You gotta have a great offensive line.
Starting point is 00:43:18 So I like Pat's getting more liming. We'll talk more free agency when the dust settles. Because it hasn't even started technically legally, but it has started technically legally. But we don't know the rules, but it's weird. We'll be right back after this quick break. There's a type of soil in Mississippi called yazu clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation.
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Starting point is 00:46:15 Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, Here's the Thing. I speak with California governor Gavin Newsom. I watch Fox. I pay attention to Newsmax, One American News. I don't turn my back to the critics, but there is a sort of California derangement syndrome out there that is just sort of ridiculous. There's notion that this is the only state that has challenges. It's just comedic, but it's damaging. We record-breaking tourism last year. We have a surplus again. We have a state with population growing again. You wouldn't know that. That's not prevalent. It's not part of the discussion.
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Starting point is 00:47:16 Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it, dude. So let's get into the All Dudes defensive team, Rob. Let's do it, Jules. We had the All Dudes offensive team, Rob. Let's do it, Jules. We had the all dudes offensive team last week. That was fun. But now today it's the all dudes defensive team. It's the dudes that we love this year from each defensive position.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And Jules, where are we going to start here? Where do you want to start? You know, just talking about the the trenches. Let's talk. Let's talk about the big boys. Let's get let's go interior line that D tackle. Probably if you talk to most football people, the D tackles probably one of the most important positions in football. If you got a guy that could plug,
Starting point is 00:48:07 because then you allow that guy to take away the run game and then the outside guys can eat. But if you have a guy that could take away the run game and then also put a little pressure on that quarterback in the middle of the pocket, which all quarterbacks hate, that's when you get suicide missions. And when you have a defensive tackle like a Vince Wulfork, you know, say that big, that athletic,
Starting point is 00:48:33 they instantly take the run game up the middle away. Like you don't even game plan to run the ball up the middle. Like that's just totally taken away. And that's, that's a whole aspect. That's a whole, you know, quarter of a playbook that you have is running the ball up the middle. So that just shows the importance of an all pro, you know, defense, a tackle, what they can do for you and all do defense, a tackle.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And on top of it, they want to get to the quarterback because what defense alignment doesn't want to sack the quarterback. So these guys can get to the quarterback as well because they're so athletic being that size. It's like Vince Wolf work. I mean, you were never going to run the ball on him going up the a gap or B gap. And then every once in a while he was just so athletic. He would beat his, you know, offensive lineman that was going versity. He was sacked the quarterback and the quarterback would be scared shitless because Vince Wolf work was so big that they didn't want him to land on him. You know, on the, you know, the quarterback didn't want Vince to land on
Starting point is 00:49:34 them. So that just shows the importance of these dudes. So Jules, who do you got? Let's hear your guys. I, you know, well, our nominees, Chris Jones, 37 tackles near three Pete could have the greatest season ever come a long way from his wiener flopping out at the pump. He's come a long way. That video will always be played every year. Always.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Um, he's, he's a character too. I love Chris Jones. He's made big plays. He's he's a character, too. I love Chris Jones. He's made big plays. He's a nominee. Jalen Carter. I mean, anyone with bread, man, Jalen as his I.G. handle. He's an old dude guy. Forty two tackles total tackles. He's just a problem. I mean, we do pregame shows all all year.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And we talk about those two a lot. Dexter Lawrence, unbelievable football player, just been on a shitty team, been on a shitty team, and it's tough. He's had nine sacks last year, 44 tackles. And he's got a cool name, Dexter's Laboratory. You guys remember that on cartoon network? I watch that show all the time.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Dexter's Laboratory was one of my big hits growing up as a kid. And Dexter Lowes kind of reminds me of the Dexter's Laboratory. So that's pretty cool, man. That's pretty cool. What kind of dude is Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory, would you say, Jules? Wiz, without a doubt. You're right. You're right. You hit it right on.
Starting point is 00:51:04 That's what I was thinking, too. Another nominee, Vita, via. He doesn't even wear gloves and he's Polynesian. He's huge. That's why he's my nominee. Those Polynesians just have that raw strength as well. They just go into the weight room. They just chuck up like four fifteen for ten on the bench. And then they just walk out of the weight room.
Starting point is 00:51:22 And it's like just jaw dropping. How the heck did he just do that that's like Vita Via. I want to sit around a Gatorade jug filled with Cava and just drink with him. I just want to drink Cava with Vita Via. That's that's that's he's he's automatic. I mean, he had a really good year, seven sacks, and he's just a problem. He's huge. But I just want to have Kava with them, so he's my nominee. Quentin Williams. From the Jets.
Starting point is 00:52:00 He's just he's fucking big, huge, and I just I love whenever he talks on an interview. He says fun shit. What about always saying funny shit? What about another Williams, Leonard Williams, you know, from the Seattle Seahawks, who he started his career, I'm pretty sure, on the New York Giants and then went to the Jets or do you start his career with the Jets and then went to the Giants? I'm pretty sure he started with the Jets, went to the Giants, and then he went over to Seattle. And I love the year that Leonard Williams had, you know, he had 11 sacks.
Starting point is 00:52:33 He had that interception that he brought to the house. I think it was about 80 plus yard interception and just to see his athletic ability and the way that he ran. I mean, it was probably the longest he ever ran in his career, but he brought it to the house and it was just so cool for a big man to do that. Everyone went crazy when he did do that. And on top of that, I had to block him before Julian, and it was one of the most impossible tasks
Starting point is 00:52:56 I ever had to do when he was on the Jets and the Giants, when I was on the Patriots and I was going for some. So I just want to give props to Leonard Williams for his year that he had, you know, one of the toughest defenders, you know, I've ever had a block. I was never moving him, but I got in his way, I could say. Well, he's a nominee for all dude then, because any guy, Rob Gronkowski can't move
Starting point is 00:53:21 is an old dude to me. First team, second team. Who do you got Rob? Oh man. Well, I'm going with Jalen Carter just cause he's a Superbowl champ and he's got his IG handle, bread man, Jalen. And just the way that he came through, that's what being an old dude is. You come through at the right moments, Julian, you came through and Super Bowls, you
Starting point is 00:53:45 came through in the playoffs, I came through, you know, that some of the biggest moments in the playoffs, you know, when when my number was called and Jalen Carter, he came through for the Philadelphia Eagles when it was most needed. He sack Matthew Stafford or put pressure on him. So he had to throw the ball away on that last play to send. Was it the send the Philadelphia Eagles to a Super Bowl? Or was it the send them to? No. Yeah, it was the send the Philadelphia Eagles to the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:54:12 because of Jalen Carter coming through on the last play of the game. So that's a dude's dude. And he's just so big, beastly, fast, strong. I just got to give him props. And he seems like a dude that you want to party with to Jules. Definitely. I just got to give him props. He seems like a dude that you want to party with to Jules. Definitely. I agree. First team, Jalen Carter, second team Vita Vaya, just because he's Polynesian and I want to drink Cabo with them.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Mm hmm. Just never slap his ass, Julian. One time, you know, one of those moods where you're just going around and slapping everyone's ass in practice. I slapped Vita Vaya's ass. I was like, let's go. Let's have a day. And he looked at me and like like he was about to kill me, bro. And he was like, never slap my ass again. And I was like, no problem, Vito, whatever you say I'll do.
Starting point is 00:54:55 And to this day, I never slapped his ass again. Jules, I know taken will not slap his ass, but we'll love to have some cover with them. Let's go on to our next our next position. Let's get to the edge. First team. The guy that gets all the attention on defense. These guys get a lot of attention. They get a lot of money. Who are our nominees?
Starting point is 00:55:20 Rob. All right. We got Miles Garrett. He's the obvious nominee here. He just signed one of the biggest deals in history. History. Oh, actually, it was the biggest deal in history for a quarterback. He's just a game wrecker. 14 sacks. It was his his worst sack year. I think was his rookie year when he only
Starting point is 00:55:40 had seven, but he only played in 11 games that year. Miles Garret, one of the most consistent, you know, edge rushers in the game of football ever in history. Too bad he's been playing for the Cleveland Browns forever or else he would even be more well known if he was on a popular team that's been winning. But Miles Garrett, first nominee, he's gonna be either one or two as well.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Jules, we also got Trey Hendrickson. This guy was a sack leader. He was the bright spot on the struggling Cincinnati's defense this year. He wants out. He wants out, but he might get paid. He might be, you know, pulling the miles Garrett effect where he says he wants out and then he might just get one of the
Starting point is 00:56:23 biggest deals in history as well. Where do you think he would go though? Jules if they actually do trade them? And what's cool about Trey Hendrickson? I've faced him a couple times strong guy built strong can't really move on you know, high motor hard worker. But he was cool enough. He wanted to Jersey swap with me, Joel. So he actually sent me one of his Cincinnati Bengals jerseys. Check it out. Yeah. So, yeah. It's one of the say it's one of the coolest jerseys I actually ever put my hands on it. I'm
Starting point is 00:56:53 telling you the material feels good. It looks good. Trey Haderson. Thank you, man. Rob. I made Jersey swaps. You got not a lot, man. Just a I don't have a few too I got a couple Kent guys. I got a I got a I gotta go look but Trey Hendrickson nominee we've I'd be I'd be Weird not to say that miles Garrett's also nominated because he has awesome Halloween costumes and I become a Halloween person ever since my daughter I really never liked Halloween, but she loves Halloween and she's already talking about costume.
Starting point is 00:57:27 So Miles Gertson, that T.J. Watt. He is a nominee. Eleven and a half sacks got hurt. Again. Mm hmm. But he's about to get paid a lot. We also got Nick Bosa, nine sacks. He was a PFS, 35th best player of the year. I mean, I would say nine sacks is kind of a down year though for Nick Bosa. You know, he was one of the highest paid at the time.
Starting point is 00:57:54 I think he broke the record for being the highest paid non quarterback at one point two years ago, but now miles Garrett absolutely blew that away. Max Crosby absolutely blew that away as well. And then Bosa. Yeah, love him. He's crazy. I saw him at at we hung out at UFC in Miami last year or something. And. I was I just I couldn't stop looking at his thighs in those jeans. I was like, man, this dude's so fucking big. He looks like a caveman. He's so large and his waist isn't even that big.
Starting point is 00:58:33 It was weird. Michael Parsons, he's also a nominee. Saw him at Super Bowl in an Uber, crossed into the street, said he would pod swap with me. I said, I would love to. He's fucking awesome. What do you think the convos between him and Jerry Jones are like? I mean, it's a Jerry. You just see what Miles Garic out paid.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I mean, you might as well just give me that same contract before you owe me five million dollars more if you let me hit free agency next year. That's what I would say if I was Michael Parsons. Would you really? Yeah, I really would. When you were Michael Parsons age or your age now? Michael Parsons age. Actually, with the experience and knowledge and not being so fearful. I would have to be my age of being able to go up to someone's status of that type of status and Jerry Jones. But at 24, 25 years old, I would have let my, I would have let my agent do that one. Yeah. I put my agent up to it.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Yeah. Well, was chop Robinson. There we go. Jules I was going with chop Robinson to why because he has a cool name. He had a solid rookie year. He had six sacks. I don't think he's gonna be one or two on the all dudes team. But he's definitely just needed to be mentioned because of the year that he had he's gonna be a future star at the edge
Starting point is 01:00:00 position. That's a great edge rushing name. Chop Robinson. Chop Robinson's coming to get you. The only way to take down Mr. Robinson is to chop him. So get your ass low, boys. Get your ass low. Just like Kyle Van Oy did all year at 33 years old with 12 and a half sacks all pro joker. Freaking Kyle Van Oy is still doing it. Love that guy. Love Kyle. I love him. I played with him in
Starting point is 01:00:38 New England and one time he gave me the electric chair. He was guiding me one on one outside and boom, he jammed me and like it stunned me off the line. And then ever since that day, he still brings it up to me. He asked me how that electric chair is doing because he electrocuted me right off the line. I couldn't get off the line of scrimmage. So props to Kyle van Nooy, man. That's what I knew. He was a dog when he did that to me. I was like, dang. And then he's still going. He's still going. You remember the first day he came to New
Starting point is 01:01:06 England after we traded for him in like the middle of season? I got kicked out of practice. I don't really remember this Jules. I don't think I got kicked out of practice, but Bill got really mad at me. I don't know. It was like happened. I blocked him. I lit him up. His first like, it was his first day there and I lit his ass up. I forgot what, but I hit him really hard
Starting point is 01:01:32 and coach got mad at me. I said, what? This is fucking welcome to the welcome to the team, bro. We practice hard here, dog. This ain't Detroit. Welcome, welcome. I don't know. We walk. Don't be. Don't be walking around this land thinking you could just fucking tiddly wink.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Mm hmm. You can't tiddly wink around here. That's one thing you did love to do when a new player came to the team. Jules, you showed him what's up. You showed him that we worked hard. You showed him that we practice at her as hard as we play. It's like you and Stefan Gilmore. You're going at him. When he first signed with the Patriots, you did it with Kyle Vanneoy. You did it with a
Starting point is 01:02:09 couple other signings or guys that we traded for. So we appreciate you doing that, man, you know, setting the standard for the new guys, even if they were vets, you know, that's what's up. We needed a heart and old van away up, but fucking he was he was cool. We ended up growing, having a great relationship after that. He's it's unbelievable to to see that, you know, he's still balling a 12 and a half sacks.
Starting point is 01:02:33 A lot of sacks, dude, 33 years old. Well, who you got on your first team, Jules? Come on, let's hear it. I'm going I'm going to tell you who's on my first team. I'm going with Trey Trey Hendrickson. I mean, he just led the league in sacks. He sent me to Jersey, which I'm going to I'm gonna tell you who's on my first team. I'm going with Trey Hendrickson. I mean, he just led the league in sacks. He sent me the jersey, which I'm gonna read to you. Rob, Hall of Fame career and Hall of Fame character.
Starting point is 01:02:52 That's right, baby. I got a Hall of Fame character. I appreciate that. Thank you for everything. God bless. And Trey, I still owe you a Tampa Bay jersey because we went and versed each other plenty of times when he was on the Saints and I was on and I was on the buck.
Starting point is 01:03:05 So I'll be sending that Jersey out. When I find it, it's stuffed in my garage right now at the bottom. Cause I'm cleaning out the house, but that Jersey will be coming your way. Once I eventually get it, man. And I, you're, you're on my first team, my first all dudes team of all time. First team Hendrickson. I mean, he had a heck of a year, man. Heck of a year.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I'll give you that. Second team for me then. Miles Garrett. That's who I was going with. It's got to be Miles Garrett, man. He wasn't. And I train. I trained with Mason Rudolph.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Good for, you know, like a few times he threw to me. But anytime a guy takes a goddamn helmet off and tries to beat another man with it. I mean, that's an old dude to me. That's an old dude to me. Let's get on to the next episode or the next position. Safety. The nominees, Xavier McKinney of Green Bay, eight interceptions, 60 tackles, hasn't posted on IG since August. He's locked in.
Starting point is 01:04:07 He's in zero dark 30 mode. It's been August like Kyle Hamilton, one of my favorite football players. Solid third year. He's like he's around doing everything. He said he's just I think he's a really good football player. Great tackler makes big plays. He covers tight ends to cover. And he's a big guy as well.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Those are the hardest guys to get open again. So the guys that are quick and then also big and lanky, because that's my skill set that I use my length and my size to my advantage. And then when you got a guy like Kyle Hamilton, who's a bigger safety who can stay with you, it makes it tough. It makes it annoying. There you go. You hit it right on. It's annoying. It's like he's always there because you're so used to like, you know, giving a little shove to a little guy and then the ball being there and they can't reach and, you know, deflect the pass. Well, Kyle Hamilton has that length that he can reach and deflect the pass.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And so it is annoying. It's like that bug, that fly that's always around the house that you can't just swat away. Without a doubt, I agree with 1000 percent at Kyle Hamilton's that Brian Branch is a nominee from Detroit. I mean, he's one he's not only a baller, but he's one of the guys that stayed healthy on that defense. One of like three.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Unlike most of Detroit's defense. Yeah. Yeah. I was a baller, though. I think they would have won the Super Bowl. Yeah. That was unfortunate to see so many injuries. That's why it's hard to win a Super Bowl. That's when people don't realize everything's got to go the right way. I really don't. Baker of's got to go the right way. It really does.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Baker of Arizona nominee, sick name. Ninety five solo tackles reminds me of Bob Sanders back in the day. Remember Bobby Sanders from Indianapolis? I do. He was kind of like he was he was shorter, but he was more thick. He was jacked. I know. But he just was like a torpedo. Like he would just come down. He didn't care about his body and he would blow himself up.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Didn't play many games because he literally blew himself up. But that's how a Buddha Baker plays him. He plays downhill full speed all the time. Kind of like an Earl Thomas back in the day when he was on Seattle. Like Earl Thomas, Earl Thomas. And then Reed Blanket Chip, Philadelphia, exciting white third year for interceptions. Got to put him on a nominee and then our.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Alumni nominee. Rodney Harrison. Rodney, the 2003 2002, the 2004 Rodney Harrison. Rodney, the 2003, 2002, the 2004 Rodney Harrison, just always laying the wood over the middle. How much did Bill talk about Rodney Jules? I mean, we talk every anytime it was we were starting pads practice. Like that was like clockwork. Every fucking look, you know, this is where it separates people
Starting point is 01:07:05 They're not an underwear guys like Rodney Harrison would fucking hit you like, you know, we'd always hear Rodney Harrison Rodney Harrison and then but Rodney was also around and I liked Rodney cuz he I remember him talking to some of the younger DB's Like putting them in their place young guys that were young-minded You know, I think he should be in the Hall of Fame younger DBS, like putting them in their place. Young guys that were young minded. Yeah. I think he should be in the hall of fame. He should definitely be in the hall of fame. He should be all around. Good player.
Starting point is 01:07:33 My first team for safety, Kyle Hamilton. I think he's a baller third year. He's just got to stay healthy. Continue to get that defense going. They always find Baltimore always finds a secondary guy and a linebacker. And they got themselves the secondary guy and the second team. All dudes safety. I'm pretty sure you're going to agree with me here, Jules.
Starting point is 01:08:04 We love his name. Love the way that he plays the game as well. Just fearless out there out in the backfield of the defense. And that's Buddha Baker from the Arizona Cardinals, man. I mean, guy, guy is a monster for his size. And he's just all over the place. He's always around that ball. When you're always around that football good things happen to you
Starting point is 01:08:25 and that's what Buddha Baker, you know brings to the defensive side of the ball I Mean he did get chased down by DK, but DK is a long man DK is long. He's got a stride. He's fast and he just got paid 150 million dollars because DK is an absolute freak of nature jewels absolute Let's go into our next position all dudes cornerback our nominees Patrick Sir tan the second fourth year in got paid 96 point
Starting point is 01:09:03 Zero Zero million just a lot 96 points you just want to say point M a million dollar extension no one throws to him there's a reason why Derek single Derek Stingley jr. out of Houston I think he's a baller, five interceptions, third year, Patriot bloodline, grandson of Darryl Stingley. Wide receiver. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Wide receiver. Sauce Gardener, a nominee in Buffalo Wild Wings ads. Got a cool name, already a star. Wish he would have, didn't have his strongest year this year though. He didn't. It wasn't as strong, but a lot of distractions in New York this year, especially on defense,
Starting point is 01:09:54 at like 20 different coaches. Jalen Ramsey got paid three year, 72 million dollar extension, Byron Murphy out of Minnesota, six interceptions. So let's, what's our, I think our first team corner, easy. Patrick's are tan too. Yeah, that's an easy choice. I mean, he's been the heart and soul of the Denver Broncos defense. And they don't even throw his way.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Like I wish they threw his way more to see, you know, what type of player he is in all situations, but no one will even give them that chance because he's just that locked down and when you're that locked down, you're getting paid as the top corner, like you just did. And no one's going to throw your way. Cause you're just that good. That's kind of like Revis's Island. Like no one would really dare throw to that side of the field.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Cause you just know that it's not going to be possible. I mean, Rivas Island. No, I'm just saying it's like Rivas Island, man. It's like no one throws his way like just like Rivas Island, how they want to throw his way. And our second team, we're going Stingley Jr. Just because you got Patriot Bloodline. I think that's cool.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Anytime you got bloodline. All right. Corner number two. First team all dude nominees, Trent Mcduffie. He he was so Bill. I didn't realize he was so big on the bottom end. I saw him at practice. He had a big bottom end like legs, thighs. He was fucking like he looked like a horse.
Starting point is 01:11:24 legs, thighs. He was fucking like he looked like a horse. He also had 60 TFL 13 past defense, two interceptions, made a lot of big plays on third down Christian Gonzalez, Rob. Yeah, he came back from injury this year. I mean, he had a solid rookie year going on now. Got hurt, which was unfortunate, but he had a solid, solid, solid, you know, sophomore season with New England. He's just a stud. He wears number zero and you got to give him some love because he's just a quiet whiz. You know, he's a good guy. Uh, and when you're a quiet, you know, type of person, you really sometimes really don't get that much love,
Starting point is 01:12:02 especially when, you know, you're on a team that hasn't won over the last two years. So Christian Gonzalez, keep doing your thing. The love is going to come. The all pros are going to come. All the Pro Bowl's are going to come eventually. But just keep doing you, man. And he works with mental health. I see him on an ad all the time.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Mental health ad. We should sign up, Jules. I need it. I need it. Cooper Dejean is an exciting white at a pick six on his birthday in the Super Bowl. That's pretty fucking cool. But I put him more in the star category. He's he's a nickel, more of a nickel. Now he can't be in you know that
Starting point is 01:12:45 He's not there yet Denzel Ward 42 tackles two interceptions 70 year in Cleveland Lockdown corner. I've always respected his game and he makes me think of Denzel Washington because of his name Yes, sir. Right seven years in Cleveland. You got to have some kind of award. Mm-hmm JC Horn out of Carolina. He's a baller. 68 tackles, two interceptions, two sacks.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Pro Bowler just got paid for for a buck. 100 million dollars. What about his dad? Master of touchdown celebrations, Joe Horn. He had the cell phone celebration. Jules, remember that back in the day? Took it out of the field goal post pad. Mm hmm. It was pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Yeah, the field goal post pad. He's a that was pretty funny. That was cool. Baller, man. That's cool. I didn't know that J.C. Horn was the son of Joe Horn. So that's a learning fact right there. You know, you always learn something new every day, Jules. Every and not you learn that J.C. Horn is a son of Joe Horn. Zahir Alexander.
Starting point is 01:14:00 This guy cracks me up. I think he's a good corner. I think he's a little young, but I just love the story when he came out to captain Against the North Carolina when they played Carolina Panthers and he wasn't even a captain and the coach Asked him. Why did you go out and he goes coach? I'm from North Carolina. You mustn't didn't realize And so he put himself and nominated himself for captain that game.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I think he got suspended the next week. But that was a funny thing. That was funny to me. That's all that's all, dude. Jokester. That is, man. That's good stuff. First and second team, first team for me. I'm going Trent Mcduffy. I think he's a stud and I, what I love about
Starting point is 01:14:52 Trent Mcduffy is that he knows how to jam guys off the line. And that's when a lot of routes are one is right off the line of scrimmage. Once you get around the guy, but Trent Mcduffy is a guy that you can't really, you know, beat them at the very beginning. You got to beat them at top of your route because he can jam you. And that's why I appreciate, uh, appreciate it about his game. When I was watching him over the last few years with Kansas city, second team, Rob, I'm going to go with, uh, your guy, Jules, your guy, Jair
Starting point is 01:15:24 Alexander, after that story that you just told, your guy, Jair Alexander. After that story that you just told, I'm going with Alexander, man. I'm going with him. How about you? What do you think? What do you think with that one? I was going to go. I thought we were going to Christian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 01:15:36 He was. Was he no pro this year? No, he kind of got shafted. Like I said, second team, all pro. Oh, really? He got shafted from the Pro Bowl. That's what it I said, second team, all pro. Oh, really? He got shafted from the pro bowl. That's what it was. Yeah. But second team, all pro. All right. I, I'm going to take that back because I am a big fan of Christian
Starting point is 01:15:52 Gonzalez. I think he should be second team for sure. Yeah. We like he shut down. He shut down defenders. If you see the stats that those top wide receivers have one going one on one with Christian Gonzalez, you would be like, why is Christian Gonzalez not an all pro first team? You know, because he shut them all down. It was something like 20 yards per game. He had a great year and he's just going to continue to get better. Bill drafted them.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Let's move on to linebackers. All dudes, linebackers, nominees, Patrick Queen, Pittsburgh, went over from Baltimore in division leaves new team, 65 solo tackles. He's a Steven Ridley, Randy Moss level fisherman. Check out his IG. Guy loves fishing. My brother's a big fisherman. I always respect that.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Frank Louvo. How do you say it? Louvo? Louvo. My bad, Frankie. Frankie Louvo, first year in Washington, 54 solo tackles. He's Simone.
Starting point is 01:17:08 And you know that hurts, that's a special spot in my heart. They hold a special spot and his dad played for the Fiji national rugby team. What about Frankie Louvue when they were playing the Philadelphia Eagles in their Tush pushing to get into the end zone. He just kept jumping off sides You know, I don't remember. Yeah, we did beat him real quick. That was cool the night before we got We got IVs with them before the game before the game give me any luck clearly got blown out
Starting point is 01:17:40 But he was a fucking cool dude. I like and he's a baller I love I love the way that he can get off the line of scrimmage. He has that first step and seems like a guy that's hard to move like that. He's got the hit stick when I was watching him in that game. Definitely. Zach Bond, Swiss Army Knife's Philadelphia Eagles was a team or comes over. Is all pro. All pro was a special team or to all pro 93 solo tackles had a really good pick in that uh in the Super Bowl he had a super pick in the yet a couple
Starting point is 01:18:13 this guy bowled out man howie roseman just finding diamonds in the rough just signed a three-year 51 mil. Eagles pay everyone. Mm hmm. I don't know how they do it. And then we got to have our alumni Dante high, high tower. I just, he's an old dude because of his calves. Biggest calves in the league. Jules by far. And he gets so mad at me when I call him Dante, but his name was Dante.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Um, and then to Mario Davis from New Orleans, he was a baller this year, 69 solo tackles. He is 36 years old and still getting after it. Shout out. Fun fact. Snapple fact, Steve McNair, air McNair's cousin. Crazy story about that McNair. Crazy story.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I watched the Mario Davis play and I know he's a year older than me. And I just watched him playing at that high level still to this day. And it just makes me wonder how he's doing it. I'm like, man, I'm, I'm a year younger than him and I can't picture myself being able to do that anymore. And this guy is just going out there and he's playing at the highest level possible at the
Starting point is 01:19:40 linebacker position. And he's 36 years old. So shout out to his longevity. I mean, great player when he was on the New York Jets. He's a great player, you know, through his 30s, you know, being on the New Orleans Saints. So whatever you're doing, man, keep it up. You're straight ball up. Baller first team linebacker, Zach Bond, Philadelphia Eagles. First team linebacker, Zach Bond, Philadelphia Eagles. Okay, this guy
Starting point is 01:20:08 reinvented himself, had the storybook ending to a year this year. Gets signed to Philadelphia, hasn't played a major role on defense, goes out, becomes all pro, wins a Super Bowl, and then gets a big paycheck. He's a first team all dude, second team all dude for you, Rob. Second team all dude. I really do like Dante's high towers, calves, but that's the level
Starting point is 01:20:37 that we're looking at. You know, I'm still wondering if those calves were even real jewels. Every day I looked at those bad implants were a thing in that earlier in that that time. Exactly. But I'm going to go with I'm going to go with the Mario Davis. I mean, just what he's doing at that position, you know, just at that age as well. He had 69 solo tackles and that's being an old dude. This guy knows how to get it done.
Starting point is 01:21:06 69 is a great number. He could have had probably 70 71 tackles this year, but he stopped right there and that's why he's an old dude. Uh, and he's on the old dude, second team defense for linebackers, Jules. And then honorable mention, Donta high towersowers, cows. On to the next position, the green dot. The linebacker that makes the calls in the middle of the field that has the microphone. The quarterback of the defense.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Nominees, Ro Kwon Smith of Baltimore, three years, all pro three years in a row, all pro stud to Mario Davis. We even though we he's a green dot guy, but we gave him on there. We're just going to put him on there. Bobby Wagner. Guys, 34 years old, still flying. We played against him in a Super Bowl years ago. Was he was on that team, right?
Starting point is 01:22:03 And Bobby, he was he was young on that team. Yeah, he was. Absolute stud stud. Zaire Franklin. 173 total tackles. Let the league 173. How do you possibly have 173 tackles? He just that's a tackle every play.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Absolute maniac. Fred Warner. He's tribal to me. He's like I saw him do the LeBron throw up, you know, where LeBron throw. He was doing that with grass. Before a joint practice against the Raiders in Vegas, he was doing that with grass. Before a joint practice against the Raiders in Vegas, he took grass, he was smelling it and throwing it up like that's an old dude to me.
Starting point is 01:22:54 And then Nick Bolton, Kansas City. I wonder if there's any relation to Michael Bolton. He's the anchor of the Kansas City defense, and he just got paid like you're about to say. Three years, forty five million dollars. And I'm like, I'm going to go to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Because dude's really good with the fucking brass dog. Oh, guys. The sax guy, right? Michael Bolton. Mm hmm. Right. Saxophone. Right. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 01:23:38 That's like the sax. You should play, bro. You should play. Oh, first team all dot. You should play, bro. You should play. First team all dot for me. Who is it for you? I got my guy in mine. Who's your first team? I'm going Fred Warner. All right. I'm cool with that. I mean, he's the heartbeat of the San Francisco's defense. I mean, he played in 2024 with a broken ankle as well. And, uh, he's been featured on our show as well. Uh, you know, a couple, a couple of weeks ago throughout the season. So, uh, that was really cool. You thinking, Rob, I was thinking Bobby Wagner.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I mean, this guy's a legend right now. I mean, he leads that Washington commander's defense with presence. You know, he commands that defense. He's one of the reasons why they had such a great year this year We played against someone he was you know on the Legion of Boom defense in Seattle and he's just still going You got to give him credit Bobby Wagner is my second team all dot, dude First team all dot Fred Warner second team all dot Bobby Wagner, Washington commanders, Roquan Smith, too, man. He that was so yeah, one. Where does that leave us?
Starting point is 01:24:54 All dudes teamer with the help of Matthew Slater. He's special teams. God. I asked him. Let's see if I can get get you to hear this Let's see what the slate analysis of the teamers are All dudes team first team second team old dudes I Mean you got you gotta put school on there first team all dude
Starting point is 01:25:23 Dudes a dude man man what do you want me to tell you the Joker can flat-out play size speed quickness hands want to toughness could play with us man could play with us. Then second team all-dude is tough because I like Jeremy Reeves in Washington. I like Belor in Washington. But if I gotta go second team all-dude I'm going JT Gray. Saints probably been one of the most underrated players in our league for the last five, six years. Check him out. Led the league in special teams tackles. A lot of top end burner.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Just great finisher at the ball carrier. Physical in the return game will lay you out and just find his way to the ball. And this sucker is productive. Productive. I think he's got like 93 special teams tackles since he came in the league. Most in the league during that span. So those would be my two teamers. School or first team. JT Gray, second team. school or first team JT Gray, second team JT Gray. Those are first and second team. Khalif Raymond out of Detroit. He was pretty good.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Led the league and punt returns this year. Also, who's are the Cowboys returner? Turpin should be up there. He's a beast. But we get our consulting for special teams from the special teams. God Matthew Slater and he says Brandon school or first team JT grace second team.
Starting point is 01:27:22 We have JT gray has the most tackles since he came in 93. Shouldn't he be first team though? Kavante Turpin, one of my favorite returners all year long. So I think we go with Slate. What do you think? Oh, Jules, I'm gonna kind of leave this one up to you because I never really been a special teamer. The one time I was on special teams, I was on field goal protection and I put my arm
Starting point is 01:27:49 out to block and Sergio Brown ran into my arm and snapped my wrist back and it broke my forearm. I wasn't really that great on special teams, never really played it. The biggest highlight of my career on special teams was when I was on kickoff return my rookie year, Dan Conley, he got the ball because he was in the middle of the what's back then. What was it called when you can combine the way guys? Yeah, the wedge he was in middle of the wedge, but they kicked him the ball. He got it as an offensive lineman. He ran it up to to the four yard line. But on that play, I pancaked the defender right in front of him when he got the
Starting point is 01:28:26 ball. So that's my biggest highlight on special teams in my career in the NFL. So I'm gonna leave this one up to you, Jules. This was all you you were amazing punt returner, you are a great kick returner. You are an all around special teams guy. So Jules, whoever you think you got advice from Slater, you got knowledge from him who was maybe the best special teams player of all times in NFL history. So this one's all on you Jules. But I do want to bring up that Amandola to you know, he was a teamer back in the day and 21.3% of his, you know, snaps were special teams as well when he was with New England.
Starting point is 01:29:05 He played plenty of times. So just shout out to him as well. Our good old friend, Danny, the dancer, Amandola Danny, the dancer, Amandola. He was a really good teamer. Great hands. Not as good as you. Hands to. Sorry, Dola. You were better, Jules. Danny was very good.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Danny was very good. And shout out to Cavante Turpin. That these a monster. He had nine hundred and four. The Cowboys returner, right? Yeah, I knew it. I know it. Turpin was I mean, I remember Belichick even saying like,
Starting point is 01:29:44 why the fuck would you kick to this guy? He's good, and he also came he's an old dude guy cuz he came a long way He I think he was in the USFL or something. He was like the MVP of some Watered down league or whatever so first team Brandon Schooler Patriot second team JT, with the helps of. Matthew Slater, thank you, Slater, we appreciate you. You've always been a great teammate and you're still a great teammate Slater. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:30:20 An honorable mention. Cavante Turbin, mm hmm. Guy was electric with the ball's hand. Also, Devin Hester, one of the most electric special teamers of all time. I think it was like 2010 or 11. I had a punt return average of like. I don't know, 15 points, something. And that's like really that's really high
Starting point is 01:30:46 that's like eight yards higher than what like the average is league average and fucking It was like a record. It was like a crazy great year and there was one guy that had higher than me It was fucking Devin Hester and he had like a 17 which was like a record It's crazy. He had two touchdowns He was he was he was electric first team First team first ballot Hall of Famer man first time as a special team, right? Is he first ballot or not first ballot not first ballot, but he's just special team returner
Starting point is 01:31:19 I think he's a first returner to go in the Hall of Fame. Mm-hmm fucking incredible electric All right first team all dude leg. The leg Chris nominees, Chris Boswell from Pittsburgh Steelers only offense this year. Ben Brandon Aubrey from Dallas. Multiple 60 plus yarders this year. And he played professional soccer. Chase McLaughlin, Tampa Bay 93.8% of the time he hits every time.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Jack Fox, Detroit punter, which is weird. I don't think they pun it a lot, but he was a pro bowl punter. Prime Sebastian Janikowski. I could smell the vodka coming off his breath right now. There was an absolute unit and. He was the Polish hammer. I remember Scotty O'Brien all day just said this guy loves vodka like that all the coaches love talking about Sebastian Janikowski being an alcoholic. And he would put him right down the goddamn middle every fucking time.
Starting point is 01:32:36 For like a long time. Adam Vinatieri. Got snubbed from the Hall of Fame. He's got to be in the Hall of Fame eventually. But he got snubbed from the Hall of Fame. He's got to be in the Hall of Fame eventually, but he got snubbed from being a first timer. Hall of Fame. First ballot. First ballot. Mm hmm. Sequon Barkley, even though he doesn't kick, but he has really is say quad. Mm hmm. Sick legs. Harris Buckner.
Starting point is 01:33:02 I mean, he's he's a monster. I mean, he's kicked. He was unbelievable. And I eat you. You can think about what he does off the field on your own. This is a non judging by cast podcast for me. I'm going first team kick leg, first team leg Aubrey. Shout out Jerry Jones.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Find it. Find another one. Finding someone that can finally score on multiple occasions, especially past 60 plus yards, which is incredible, man. They had a couple over 60 yards as a kicker. These kickers are just becoming stronger and just, you know, more precise as the years go on. It's funny cause kickers, they go on a streak where like weeks one through seven, every kicker hits everything.
Starting point is 01:33:56 And then like week seven through 15, like every team's looking for a new kicker. And then like the ball hardens up, the colder gets that ball gets a little harder to kick. We mean, we got a shout out, Steve Gaskowski, man. Oh, I love Steve. Meat. I love Steve. I mean, he came through in the clutch plenty of times for us, you know, and people don't realize Steve had like the best kicking percentage until like the last year of his career of all time.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Like he was lights out. He fucked up his hip a little. And when those kickers, they mess up a little something. It fucks him up. And then, you know, that that's kind of where it went. But Steve was electric. He made a lot of big kicks for us. Huge. They sure did.
Starting point is 01:34:43 He had all that pressure coming after Vinatieri as well. And like it was like, you know, Vinatieri was a huge loss, but like it didn't feel like a huge loss, you know, for New England because of Gustavsky. Which that's hard to say. Because that's how good Adam Vinatieri was. Second team all leg. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Chris Boswell. I mean, he was consistent for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starting point is 01:35:09 He was. It was their only office. Basically at times. There was like five games where he had like six. There's like three games, right? I swear he had like six field goals. The Pittsburgh Steelers won a game this year without scoring a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:35:22 He kicked all the points for them. I mean, that was like 28 points. Exactly. You deserve to be on the all dudes team for doing that, scoring all the points in the game and winning. All right. Our last all dude defense. Of guy or person or dude. Is the security. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Okay. Nominees. Tua's arms home security hired in response to league wide break ins. Tua hired arm security at the house. That's an all dude moment. There is Olivia Ponton, employee of the month at Joe Burroughs house. She was there during the break in.
Starting point is 01:36:17 She was there during the break in. She kept everything safe. Lionel Messi's personal security guard. Have you ever seen this guy on the fucking sideline? I love him. He's always watching like a hawk and he's running up and down. It's like it's fricking incredible. Imagine having your own personal security guy like that at all times. Guys like this is basically this is a beast.
Starting point is 01:36:40 He's a beast. This is what every college football's dream is. Every college football coach's dream for the what is it called? The stand back guy or the push back guy. Yeah, like the Messi's got it all dialed in. He's got a guy that's literally like chasing the ball. And then lastly, Big Dom. He's pretty much goddamn mayor of Philly.
Starting point is 01:37:04 He's got a marked cop cars, escalates recruited Darius lay back to Philly and free agency. I mean, there's anything to do with security. I saw it firsthand. Dom is your guy. So first team all security for me. Big Dom is number one. I can't argue with that one. Jules number two.
Starting point is 01:37:32 I mean, we gotta go at Lionel Messi's personal security guard. The guy is always hustling hustle. He's he's watching 24 seven what's going on. He's basically a security camera at all times from Lionel Messi. So he's by far number two. And then honorable mention Olivia Putten. I mean, you got to keep the enterprise of Joe Burrow. You got to keep that enterprise going.
Starting point is 01:37:58 And when those little those little sneaky thieves tried to rob Sir Joe Burrows house, because he's dressing like or those little sneaky thieves tried to rob Sir Joe Burrough's house, because he's dressing like, or Burrough Chalamet, that's what I'm gonna call him, because he dresses like Chalamet. Joe Burrough Chalamet, when someone is trying to sneak into that house,
Starting point is 01:38:21 not so fast. Olivia Putton's there to stop it all from going down so he can just worry about creating the craziest amount of stats you possibly can for a quarterback. So that's the all dude teams. Let's go over and recap them. Our 2025 first team all dudes defense interior Jalen Carter edge Trey Hendrickson linebackers at bond safety Kyle Hamilton cornerback one Patrick Sir Tan cornerback to Trent McDuffie teamer Brandon Brendan Teamer, Brandon, Brandon Schoolyr with consultants from Matthew Slater.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Green Dot, Fred Warner, Legg, Brandon Aubrey and Security. Big Dumb. And now let's go to our 2025 second team all-dude defense, Roberto. And our interior defense alignment second team all-dude is is Vita via from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers just a monster we got edge of a miles Garrett you can drink cover all day with Vita via going back to him jewels and then that linebacker position we got the Mario Davis, the Mario Davis that is an honorable mention Dante high towers calves, biggest calves ever play in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:39:53 We're still wondering if they were implanted or not. We will find out one day at the safety position. We got Buddha Baker. Great name. Great all dudes name. No doubt about that. Fucking flies too. At cornerback one, we got Darrell Stingley. At cornerback two, we got Christian Gonzalez. Special teamer. JT Gray with honorable mention.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Kavante Turpin. Bill Belichick loves that guy. The green dot. I think everyone does. Everyone does love his monster lethal weapon at the green dot. We got Bobby Wagner, heart and soul of the Washington commander's defense leg. We have a kicker here and Chris Boswell won a game just kicking all field goals for the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. And at the security position, we got Lionel Messi, security guard
Starting point is 01:40:52 who just hawks down anyone that is eyeing down Lionel Messi. Don't even fucking look at him wrong. Mm hmm. Or his security guy we don't even know the name of. We'll fucking come get you. If you look if you look at him wrong from the nosebleeds, he will fucking find you. Mm hmm. You got that right. And an honorable mention, Olivia Pantone.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Just keeping Joe Burroughs casa safe. That's that's that's a good woman right there. That really is. And that's what we got. That's our all dudes team. What a team. What do you guys think about the first ever all dudes team? That's a great group of dudes.
Starting point is 01:41:36 It's a great group of dudes. I wanna hear. I wanna hear too. Plenty of dogs. I wanna hear in the comment section. Plenty of dogs, some wizards. Oh, we got studs. We definitely got some dudes, dudes, and even some freaks still getting open
Starting point is 01:41:49 and scoring against this all defense Rob. Uh, not, not, you know, I, you know, at the high rate that I typically would, you know, verse any, any defense, but versa all dudes, you know, defense, my rate of, of scoring would go down a little bit. I mean, these guys are all dudes, you know, defense. My rate of scoring would go down a little bit. I mean, these guys are all dudes. They'd go down point 69%. Exactly. There we go. Jules, you got right to it. Thank you. We'll be right back after this quick break.
Starting point is 01:42:18 There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation. It's terrible, terrible dirt. Yazoo Clay eats everything, so things that get buried there tend to stay buried. Until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery. Seven thousand bodies out there or more. All former patients of the old state asylum,
Starting point is 01:42:48 and nobody knew they were there. It was my family's mystery. But in this corner of the South, it's not just the soil that keeps secrets. Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information. When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo clay, nothing's ever as simple as you
Starting point is 01:43:05 think. The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that. I'm Larysen Campbell. Listen to Under Yazoo Clay on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here? And I go in and she's eating my lunch.
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Starting point is 01:44:53 or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I speak with California Governor Gavin Newsom. I watch Fox, I pay attention to Newsmax, One American News. I don't turn my back to the critics, but there is a sort of California derangement syndrome out there that is just sort of ridiculous. This notion that this is the only state that has challenges. It's just comedic, but it's damaging. We record-breaking tourism last year. We have
Starting point is 01:45:21 a surplus again. We have a state with population growing again. You wouldn't know that. That's not prevalent. It's not part of the discussion. It's been engulfed by the fires. It's been engulfed in the fires. It's, you know, it's a failed state, you know, California, but for me, you know, it's a pride for me again as a guy who lives here, cares about the state, is to make a case anew for it. And I'm a little clintony about it. There's nothing wrong with it. It can't be fixed by what's right with it. Listen to the new season of Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Well let's get into the Chillest Dude of the Week brought to you by our
Starting point is 01:45:58 favorite beer Coors Light. Get Coors light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coors light dot com slash dudes celebrate responsibly. The chill is due to the week. This week. Delicious. Delicious. Jules. My delicious. So you guys.
Starting point is 01:46:27 You're so Fiesta ask that's the fans, the chillest through the week. This week are the fans that left us questions into YouTube comments. Jules keep coming. Yes, please. We've pulled some. Let's answer them. Let's answer them. Yeah, here we go, Jules. I'll go with the first one from at Yukon Kamino.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Grot needs to announce draft pick number 69. Let's make this happen. Hey, that's why I was draft. That's why you guys pick 69. I'm not sure what draft pick 69 this year, Jules, but this is why this guy is one of the chillest dudes of the week because he's saying just silly, silly, chill, do things like Ash announced a 69 draft pick. And Jules, who has it? You know who has this 69?
Starting point is 01:47:10 The Patriots. Yeah. Really? Wow. They do. I didn't know that. Wow. I should have you. You're right. You need to go in and announce the 69th pick for the Patriots. That's a good idea. I might have to do it now, Jules. I might have to do it. Wow. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Let's make this happen. Call and text Stacey James right now. Yes, I'm down. I should do it. That's what day two of the draft. Where's the draft this year? Green Bay. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:47:42 That's that's the Robson. The drafts in Green Bay. It's a tough place to get to. Yeah, it isn't Green Bay. Oh, man. That's that's the Robson. The drafts in Green Bay. It's a tough place to get to. Yeah, it is in Green Bay. I do remember that. Green Bay. Oh, my God. What are we doing? All right. All right, Jules. This is why I should announce the 69th pick, you know, for the New England
Starting point is 01:47:58 Patriots this year. First off, our fans came up with the idea. Our chillest fans of the week came up with this wonderful idea that I should be announcing this pick. So thank you guys for that. And now it, boom, a light bulb went off. Why I should be announcing the 69th pick? Well, first off, when we were in San Diego, Jules, when Bill made us go out to practice with just t-shirts on and no names and numbers. Well, what did I do? I taped the number 69 on the back of my t-shirt
Starting point is 01:48:32 because I wanted to be number 69 and Bill made me take that tape off right away or else I couldn't continue the practice. So that was one of my most 69 legendary moments in my career. And on top of it, I scored my 69 touchdown verse the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh and Mike Reese ESPN reporter asked me about it. And it became a big thing right after that game. Cause that was my 69 touchdown, you know, in my career. So that was another cool moment that went, you know, pretty viral as well. When I was on the Patriots, it had to do with 69.
Starting point is 01:49:03 So Patriots, if you guys are smart, Stacy James out there, please let me announce the 69th pick of the draft this year. You guys hold that pick. It would just be legendary, not just for myself, but for all the fans out there. Thank you. I can see I can see variable trading the pick just so we don't have it anymore. Yeah, just so you don't steal the thunder. Well, you'll steal the thunder.
Starting point is 01:49:27 I would. Yeah, I'm very aware. Like that. He's got a grand steel in the thunder once again with the new again, Patriots. Well, whatever you do, I'm joking. Whatever you do, don't trade that. Don't trade it. Please don't. We need it. Let's jump into our next question from Kevin. Emory 1177.
Starting point is 01:49:51 Julian, what did Bill Belichick say to you after you won a Super Bowl MVP? And did he treat you any different after? You said you were a rookie. When you were a rookie, he wanted you to know who important veterans were. And I think you were one of those important vets afterwards. I don't remember Bill ever really say, actually I think Bill said something like,
Starting point is 01:50:17 it should have been Ryan Allen or something. He said, the punter. Thanks coach, love you Love you, too. Next question from Paul Gray, 6100. I have no idea how or why I'm watching Edelman at 5 a.m. What are they watching? Yeah, Jules names or dudes on dudes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Or is there something out there that you have out that's on a 5 a.m. show, Jules? I mean, like, no. What is it? I don't know. Maybe he's just surfing. He's surfing the web. Robert, he watching 5 a.m.
Starting point is 01:51:04 He must have that algorithm. Rob, what are you watching? Five a.m. It was commercials. He must have that algorithm algorithm where he just watches you so much. Jules, I even have five a.m. It just pops up on his phone or on his TV or whatever he's watching on, which it was just cool props to him watching the squirrel at five a.m. And what do I watch at five a.m.? I watched nothing at five a.m. Man, if I'm up at five a.m., I'm actually kind of pissed at myself for even being up.
Starting point is 01:51:26 So I'm always trying to go back to sleep. I listen to meditation music actually at that time. If I'm trying to, you know, get myself back to sleep. When I was a kid, I used to get up so early on Saturdays to watch the Saturday morning cartoons. And before the Saturday morning cartoons, if you were there like six or five it was infomercials and so I remember I used to watch the infomercial for Macintosh they used to
Starting point is 01:51:55 they were trying to sell email for the first time ever like people are like wait you could send a letter to someone in seconds in another country right like what the fuck is this thing and like it was like going through just like the work friendliness of like the Mac the first Mac like oh look if you double click right here you can get into your email I'm like what the fuck is I watch that infomercial maybe 20 times is Mac When I was a kid, so shout out to infomercials. Let's get back to our Questions from the fans Rob. This one's you I from at Moe been real deep
Starting point is 01:52:41 Thanks for the fun shows the past few months y'all. Hey at Moe been real deep. Thanks for the fun show is the past few months y'all. Hey at Moven real deep. Thank you for listening. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for being a fan. We do it for you. We do it for all you guys out there that tune into us and this sip right here for being one of the chillest Jews of the week.
Starting point is 01:53:03 The sip is for you. Thank you to our fans, Jules. He's got a couple ideas for us on on the other episode for other episodes. Number one, Lady Dudes. Serena, Sue Bird, Caitlin Clark, etc. 1000 percent need lady dudes, because dudes is not just a,
Starting point is 01:53:29 not a guy, a dude is everything. And then number two from my mob in real deep, dudes in other sports, Lewis Hamilton, Kobe Tiger, et cetera. Enjoy the break y'all, have a good time with the Kobe Tiger, et cetera. Enjoy the break, y'all. Have a good time with the kiddos, Jules. That's mobbing deep. Sorry, Jules, I wasn't paying too much attention there because Ralphie was yelling at me
Starting point is 01:53:55 because he's been quiet for the last two hours letting me podcast with you. He's been laying there, but now it's his time to shine and he's yelling at me. So I think those are great ideas to have lady dudes and also dudes in other sports, uh, that'd be really cool because the Ralphie dog dudes would be really cool. We can turn on the dog channel, check them out, check what breed we want to talk about, what, what, what our favorite dog is, what our favorite tricks
Starting point is 01:54:21 are that these dogs are doing. So that's a great idea, man. We got to eventually do it. We will get there possibly. But, you know, we'll take a sip to that again. Jules, cheers. Cheers. So lady dudes and dudes and other sports right now. Delicious. It is good. It is good. And that's been the chill is due to the week, thanks to our favorite beer.
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Starting point is 01:55:15 from here on out. And I feel like I could perform better because I'm more relaxed and more chilled. So that's, that's, that's myself scout right there. You were sweaty? I don't know sweaty. You just get done watching cops. I was sweating a little bit. I got a workout done earlier and I'm kind of like inflamed from it a little bit. Cause I, like I said, I'm getting back into it, you know, a routine. I was just like, ha, I like a couple of hot flashes, but I'm telling you,
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Starting point is 01:56:45 get your podcasts. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here? Am I going and she's eating my lunch? Or if hypnotism is real? You will use a suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. But what's inside a black hole? Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe.
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