Games with Names - Best of Dudes on Tom Brady
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All right, let's go on our next.
But I'm sure we're going to go for more than 10 minutes.
We've already went for more than 10 minutes.
Who's our next guest, Tom?
I mean, oh, wow.
Who's our next guest, Julian?
Our next guest is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady.
Now, let's see what AI has what to say about TB.
Two guys that know him pretty well.
Let's see if AI knows them just as well.
All right, start at the clock.
Let's see.
Let's see if AI is really living.
living up to the standards.
Let's see.
Because everyone's saying.
Last two.
AI.
All right.
Tom Brady is a legendary NFL quarterback.
Well, they're already wrong because he's not a legendary NFL quarterback.
He was an NFL legendary quarterback.
Or is he, does AI know he's, does Tom come back?
Is it?
AI.
AI knows something that we don't know.
Oh, my God.
AI is living up to the standard.
Dolphins.
Ah, dolphins.
Kyle Shannonhan still wants him with the Niners, even though Brock Purdy is a lot.
Maybe AI is up to something right now.
AI is up to something.
What is AI saying?
He's a renowned for his record seven Super Bowl victories and five Super Bowl MVP awards.
Wow.
Off the field, he is known for his disciplined lifestyle.
Very disciplined.
TB12 method.
Business ventures.
com slash business ventures.
A lot of business ventures.
owns teams. Lots of teams. Raiders potentially coming up soon. And philanthropic efforts.
A lot of giving back to the kids. Best buddies for a long time. Yes. And what about the kids?
He helped become superstars. Yeah. He helped us out too. We're part of that. That doesn't go
in the philanthropy. That's not philanthropy, but we'll take that. That's his biggest philanthropy right
there. It was. Definitely.
Okay. Helping us
kids out. He helped
us. All right. A lot. All right.
Including his work with the TB12
Foundation, which you just mentioned, Joe.
And TB12 Foundation. Brady's
leadership. He's a leader.
Resilience.
Guy's fucking resilient.
And commitment. Come on, Jules. Is he committed?
This guy is committed like no other.
To excellence, have
made him an iconic figure is he iconic fucking he's got aura the most iconic guys got
ora iconic figure both in sports and infinity and beyond it said it infinity beyond it says and beyond
but i added that little bite a buzz light year you know spectacle aspect into it i like that i like that
but i can't believe a i didn't one thing that a i didn't get this guy is his compartmental
his compartmentalization skill is fucking outrageous that's what i anyone asked me like what is
he could literally have so many things going on or on going on in his life but when it was time
for work he could blur all that out and think about what that work day was and fucking get the
most out of that work day every day which some would say that's like a serious
killer or some kind of maniac mindset, I would say that's like the greatest of all time.
Yes, Jules, that's a great point.
I actually never thought of that.
And that's 100% accurate.
And that's actually contributes to why he was so great is that he could ignore the noise.
Whatever is going on out there, whatever the situation was.
Make me better.
It didn't matter.
And he would, yeah, he would use that anyways.
He was used it as fuel.
It would be diesel fuel.
it would be normal, normal fuel.
Race fuel.
Super S-101.
Oxrated fuel.
It didn't matter.
S-101.
He would use it as fuel.
Only a few fucking gas stations have that fuel.
You fill up that engine and he had diesel engine.
He had freaking premium engine.
He had every engine in the book.
Jet engine.
And that's what made him so great.
And he used that fuel and he burned all that fuel too.
This is probably terrible.
There's so many, he burned so much fuel that he killed literally so much of the ozone layer
that he's a fucking.
and hazard to our environment because that's how much fuel he burns with the motivation
and his compartmentalization factors.
That's how much fuel he's burning.
And that jet was full go every single time.
You know when you get on a plane, you're like this freaking pilot better drive this plane
or fly this plane as fast as possible.
Or drive it too, freaking on the runway to get to the runway to freaking take off ASAP.
So fly it and drive it as fast as possible.
that's this guy and he's got headwind so you're actually using more fuel yeah and the fuel
never ran out it the guy has fucking airplanes that come out while you're flying have you seen that
where they use the fucking piece and that while they're flying in the air and they connect one plane
to the other limited yeah that's and that is Alex Alex is the little airplane Alex is the little airplane
fuel that could...
Oh, man.
He just has so much fuel.
I mean, oh, that was so good.
That was so good.
There they are.
Look at, there's Alex and Tom.
Alex and Tom.
Alex is fueling Tom up.
Wow.
Wow.
And that's something to have...
Hey, that's a love thing out of Alex
because he keeps them going.
It keeps them going, man.
Well, let's get to some accolades.
I mean, first he was, he was pick 199, six round in the 2000 draft.
I mean, I'm sure everyone knows that by now.
He was with the Patriots from 2000 to 2019 and then with the Bucks,
2000 to 2000 to 22.
And actually, I just got a quiz on him.
How many years did he play in the NFL?
And it was right before I talked to him two weeks ago on Fox.
Kurt Menafee asked me, we played a little live game.
Hey, how well do you know your teammate Tom Brady goes?
How many more years did Tom Brady play in the NFL than you?
And I played 11 years.
And I thought Tom Brady played 24 years.
I actually got it wrong.
He played 23 years in the NFL.
So shame on me.
But it was better to be over on that than hit it right on the nose.
But that's how many years he played is that I just know it was so many.
I couldn't even keep track anymore.
He played 11 years more years than me.
He played 11 years more than you and 12 years more than me.
That is fucking gnarly.
I played 12, I played 11 years in the NFL, and he played more years in the NFL than I played in the NFL.
He, that without me.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like if you, I don't know what that's called, but that's a math term.
Yeah.
That's called, uh, the whole.
That's called goat.
That's fucking goat.
Yeah.
That's called jet fuel.
Alex's jet fuel.
Alex's jet fuel.
Yeah.
What was the first time?
you met Tom. The first time I met Tom was actually what was pretty wild when I was at the
University of Arizona. You know, I was doing my interview. I had a couple touchdowns at game.
I was showing off my touchdown celebrations. And then the lady interviewing me, she's like,
who do you see being your quarterback in the NFL? And obviously right on the spot, I go,
Tom Brady would be the best quarterback to have in the NFL and especially a great fit for me.
And that was just the answer, you know. And then I did my touchdown dances.
all that. And then what happens? I get drafted to the Patriots and Tom Brady becomes my
quarterback in the NFL. It was like I manifested it when I was in college. I manifested a lot of
things. And if you ask Tom, Tom's probably really big into manifesting it as well. He manifested
all his Super Bowls because right after he won a Super Bowl, he would already have a clock
counting down to the next Super Bowl. So he was manifesting like crazy. You just learned so much knowledge
from him. And he's done so many things right to be able to get.
to the, you know, nature of where he is now.
It wasn't like he just had the athletic ability.
He showed up.
He did everything, right?
And he put the time in that you can never argue against him.
Can't.
You can't.
We'll give you an option.
So let's get, let's get back to what was I talking about again?
I don't know.
I just got just, yeah, I got a little off.
First time you met him.
Oh, the first time I met him.
It was in the training room.
I was getting my ankles taped.
And he walked in.
So I was there already for the rookie camps, the rookie practices.
he just walks up to me. He goes, hey, Rob, I'm Tom Brady. And I was like, oh, wow, this guy
already knows my name. I mean, that's also what makes him so great as well, is that he already
knows all the rookies names, all the guys that were drafted, what rounds they were drafted
in, what type of player they already were. Because he wants to know, you know, their athletic
ability, you know, what type of guy they are so he can understand them so he can be on the same
pages. Get the best out of them. So he can get the best out of them as well, like you said.
and he could have that connection to help win games.
So he can be on the same, you know, wavelength as them.
So he already knew my name, came up to me.
And I just thought it was the coolest thing, man.
I just said, hey, man, nice to meet you.
It was just super quick.
When he left, what did you think in your head?
Tom Brady knew my name.
And that was the greatest honor to shake his hand while getting my ankles taped.
And then he goes, wins four Super Bowls with them.
That's crazy.
I had a similar story.
Yeah.
What was it like when you met him?
What was that story?
I was going from, like you said, we were already in there.
When you're a rookie, you get in there before back in our day.
You'd get in there before the vets reported.
And so you'd be there for like three weeks.
You'd rookie camp and learning installations of everything.
And so I had a big book.
We all had these books.
It was like a five-inch.
Remember those old, the old binders?
Before we had iPads, we used to have big old binders.
I didn't like carrying them around.
I left mine in my locker when I went home.
Yeah.
Even though you were supposed to bring it home to study, I was like, I ain't carrying that binder.
I used to carry it.
Yeah, you did.
I do.
I was trying to make a goddamn team.
You had to.
So I'm over here getting five minutes before the special teams meeting.
It's true.
And I'm running through and the vets came in and I saw the vets coming because I saw a well in the, in the cafeteria.
Didn't say a word to me.
I was, but I wanted to.
Big time you.
Big time me a little bit.
That's okay.
He had a leather jacket on.
You big time him now.
He looks cool.
And I like when you guys big time each other.
It's entertainment for me.
All right, back to Tom, though.
And so I knew they were in, but I was going to my meeting and he walks through the door.
You know the entrance, the locker room from the hall?
He walks in there and he goes, like, look at him.
I dropped my book.
I'm like, oh, shit, this dude is taller than I thought.
And he goes, hey, I'm Tom.
I go, Jules.
He goes, I know.
We have the same agent.
Dragon's my agent, too, or something, something like that.
And I was like, nice to meet you.
And you could, I felt the same way you felt like, damn, he knew my name.
That's fucking crazy.
But he knew that, he knew everyone's name and he made everyone feel special.
And that, that was part of his leadership skill, you know, like what made him such an unbelievable leader.
From the meal ladies to, you know, the people in the equipment room, the training staff, like, it didn't matter what was going on, how the day went.
he was always a pretty cool dude to everyone, and everyone was always watching him.
You know what I mean?
And that's when you're the quarterback of the team, everyone no matter what is going on in your
life is watching that person and to see how they react to everything, the success, the failure,
your eyes go to that guy, you know, and he was the perfect guy for us, especially when we're
young knuckleheads to look at like, all right, this is how you have to do it.
he gave you the example and and he was just a fucking he's he gave us to blueprint on how to become
a reliable talented you know player that you needed to be to help the team win games he gave us
the blueprint on how to become a star out there on the field he gave us the blueprint on how to make
plays how to go out there and have that mindset ready to go and also be mentally mentally and
physically ready at all times on the practice field and on the game field.
There's no doubt about that.
And he didn't just give you a blueprint.
He showed you the way too.
Showed you.
Yes, he showed you.
Hey, this is where I want you on this route.
This is when you need to look at me.
This is where the ball is going to be.
Trained you.
Yes, he trained you to be like that.
Like a little puppy.
Oh, wait.
Oh, wait.
Oh, you want to take a break?
Hey, man, I'm telling you, your mind will let you go farther.
Let's go.
Four more routes.
Let's go.
You got to be able to be on the same page as me.
You got to be right here.
Be more physical.
Be more physical.
You're bigger than everyone.
Run his ass over and turn around and the ball will be there.
I promise you.
And if you don't hit that guy, if you're not physical, guess what?
The ball's not going to come to you.
He would just lay it out just like that.
His leadership was just, what's that where?
Where it's just.
Brutally honest?
Yes, brutally honest.
And that's what made him so great too.
So like with him, that's what he always harp to gronk.
With me, I remember in those, because a lot of times we would get that coach in
in the off season when we'd go fly out somewhere we would throw together you know because there's
times where you would do it there's times where i would do it he would always try to get his throws in
with his guys and for me he'd always come up to me like hey i i need you to be here i i need you to be
like a boxer you know you can't you can't be you can't just do what the thing shows you on the
paper you have to feel it out you got to set things up with your jab and then you use your right you
You know, it's like a boxer.
You got to be more savvy in your route running.
That's, I remember you saying that.
And then he'd always say, like, you got to run like a fucking, you got to be able to run.
You got to be able to run all day.
And like you said, when you were tired, we would do those sets of routes.
He'd make you do three or four extra ones.
And he would say, you'd line up and you would, you'd think that the drill was done.
And he would say, oh, there's off sides on a penalty on your teammates.
Or there was a holding call or P.I.
Or we got to redo it.
And he knew you were dog dead.
but he wanted to see, he wanted to get everything out of you.
When you were on empty, he wanted to see what kind of guy you were.
And he wanted to show you that's what he expected in game time.
And a word that you could have used in there as well that kind of sums it up a little bit is
he loved a decisive route run.
Decisive.
Decisive.
He didn't care if the paper said run 10 yards and run out.
He didn't care one bit.
He cared about being decisive on the practice field and taking that.
decisiveness and bringing it to the game field.
He goes, hey, if you're going to run 12 yards, even though it's a 10-yard route,
or if you're going to run 8 yards and it's going to be a little short, just be decisive.
Let me know when you're going to break out.
Let me know when you're going to break down so I can get that ball out and I can read you.
I don't need you to have 15 steps where you're slow.
I think you're going to go to the left and then you go to the right.
No, be decisive.
If you're decisive, I will find you and that ball will be out and it will be right on point.
It's what he said.
What's the biggest misconception of him, you think?
The biggest misconception of Tom Brady.
I think is that he's cool.
Yeah, he is cool.
No, I think that's the biggest misconception.
He's not that cool.
Depends.
That's the misconception right there.
Because he's cool when he's comfortable.
He's cool, but no.
If he's comfortable in the situation.
I think he's not cool when he's comfortable.
I think when he's around us, he's kind of like a dork.
Yeah, a little bit.
And then when, to the everyone else, he's the coolest guy, which I still think he's the coolest guy ever.
But then when you have him around, you're like, he's really kind of a dork.
There's some situations where, you know, if he, if he's comfortable, he's more himself.
Yes.
Yes.
And he's more like, you know, like dad joking.
Like if he knows all the cameras are shut off, like he can finally just have some time to beat Tom.
Yeah.
He's kind of dorky.
Okay.
Okay, I like this.
But you need a little dork in your quarterback.
You do.
Mostly all quarterbacks are a little dorky, and that's what makes them
quarterbacks.
I mean, not all of them, but I'm saying it's kind of like just a trait.
What quarterbacks have.
But a little bit, just a little bit in them.
He is cool, but he's a little dorky.
But you just said he's not cool.
No, I said the biggest misconception.
He's cool.
He always.
keeps a chip on his shoulder always always that's that's not a misconception i think everyone knows
that's work ethic i know but i'm just giving some facts about him what else is a misconception
that he's not clutch no that's not even a misconception everyone knows he's clutch yeah that's
yeah i just wanted to try to throw you off jules um how about this guy also played baseball and got
drafted. Yeah, by the ex-bos.
Montreal. Yeah, no wonder why he didn't go and play baseball.
The ex-pos? I mean, they have a cool hat.
They do got cool colors. They're gone, though. They're not even there no more.
That's what I mean. That's why he didn't want to go there. He's like, oh, man, my legacy,
I go there. The team's going to be gone. That means I'm going to be gone. I want to last forever.
I'll go to the New England Patriots instead. Yeah, he was in high school when he got drafted.
He went to the same high school. He was going to the Patriots.
Yeah. He went to the same high school. He was going to the Patriots. Yeah. He went to
I remember, well, we grew up in the same area.
So he went to the same high school as Lynn Swan, Barry Bonds.
There's like so many really good athletes that come out of that freaking school.
Sarah, it's an all-boy school.
What was the moment that Tom made you the most annoyed?
Oh, my God.
When I would return punts, like, I remember my rookie year.
It was the freaking preseason game.
It was my first punt return, and there was a repunt.
And I ended up house in the second one, but the first one,
I see Tom on the sideline.
And he's got a little anxiety because it's his first game from his knee.
So he's like, he was like coaching me up on how to return a punt.
And he's like, just get up to feel.
Just get up.
I'm sitting there.
I'm looking at him like, fuck this guy.
This guy has never done this.
He does not know what I'm feeling right now.
I was so annoyed with them.
And then they repunted it and I housed it.
And I fucking slammed the ball against the thing.
I was fired up.
But I was like, I was so annoyed with them.
I was like, this guy is, he's never felt what it feels to when the guys are running full.
This is new to me.
I didn't ever felt it either at the time.
So I was like, fuck this guy.
Let me do what I got to do.
He doesn't know how to run.
And I was so annoyed with him.
I'll tell you, mine.
What was yours?
When I was a rookie and I couldn't get outside of the defender on a flag route, which is flag route,
which is a corner route.
So you run about 10, 12 yards, and you, you know, you give a little stick and you break
at 45 degrees and run a corner route.
And the defender was always outside.
in me sitting at like squatting at 10 yards and he's always says get outside if you have a flag
route corner route you got to get outside of the defender or else I will never throw you the
freaking ball so I was a rookie I was kind of like clunky so I wasn't really that athletic as a rookie
you know I wasn't running routes right we double days and shit yeah I was tired as well
I couldn't get outside and in practice I didn't get outside of the guy he's like two three yards
outside of me too and I'm trying to fake him like I'm going inside and trying to get around them
the corner and and brady just turns around in the meeting because it's on film and he turns around
he goes gronk i'm fucking done throwing you the ball i told you 50 times to get outside you're not
getting outside and like i got all sad and lj crumpler start patting my leg and he's like it's okay
gronk he doesn't mean it and i was like yeah he does lg he means it man he means it and uh let me tell you
this time you fucking throwing me the ball like a thousand times after so a new year you
I knew he was all bullshit, Tom, telling me he was never going to throw me the ball again.
I was literally like, but that fired me up.
I was like, oh, all right, I'm going to show this guy.
But that's the leadership he had.
He was brutally honest.
Brutely honest.
And he would freaking get you to go to the next level, which was crazy, which was crazy.
He was so good at it.
But I was so annoyed because I couldn't get outside of the guy.
I'm like, I want to be like, Tom, run the freaking route.
I guarantee you can't get outside of the guy either.
He's three yards outside of me.
And then if I got outside of him, it was basically like an out route I was running because I
would have to flatten it so much.
So I couldn't really run the corner route.
Then you get the other responsibility, the other guy.
But he just wanted to get a defender in practice is playing the play.
Yeah.
And he knew the play.
He just wanted to get the point across.
Yeah.
Like, so it was just always in my memory.
And every time I ran a route, it was kind of just like on autopilot just to get outside
of the defender.
So I was annoyed at that, you know, with that situation.
But, you know, times have changed.
I started running routes where I would go inside the guy.
And then he would still throw him to buy.
as well later on because he's like all right he proved he proved it enough that you can do it
well then you guys start throwing the back shoulder shit yeah then we started doing all that
i also i also used to get really annoyed when in meeting rooms if he liked you and this i i felt
both of these i felt when he liked a guy he'd like he would like love them up and then there'd be so
like when when west was there i get so annoyed when i would do the exact same thing that west would do
and he wouldn't think it was good
and I would get so fucking annoyed with him
but I remember when Wes left
then I was that guy
there was guys doing trying to do
what I would do and he wouldn't
so like I would get annoyed
with that so much
when he would always bring up
like babe just do it a little more like
Wesie he called him Wesley
when he called him Wesley
remember Wesie?
I used to get so annoyed
you want to know what I would get annoyed
with him too is like we're in the offseason
and we just ran 50 routes.
It's like you and I out there only.
We're dead tired.
It's 90 degrees outside, middle of the summer.
And he'd be like one more, just one more route.
Because he's just throwing the ball.
His arm can throw 150 passes a day.
And we're running the freaking 50 routes.
And he'd be one more.
So then we would run, run more.
We'd give it our long.
We're about to throw up.
It's middle of the summer.
We probably are hungover.
He has no clue what that's like.
He used to.
He used to.
We didn't get to see him, though.
And then he became lame.
Yeah, he became lame for like a couple years.
Now, he, back in the day, I guess he wasn't lame.
If you're saying he's not lame, he was lame, okay?
Say it, Jules.
No, he was lame.
Yeah.
Like, when it came to that, he was lame.
But we didn't get him when he was young.
Yeah, I know.
He was already 33 when I first met him.
And I can tell you this, I'm freaking lame at 33 years old.
Exactly.
Compared to when I was freaking 21 to 28 years old.
You're right.
Because when he was 23, 24, he was the.
he was the best chugger on the team he was like he was a dude's dude so back to the story like
he'd be what one more and then you would you would run one more route and they'd be like one more
and then you just be like tom i'm not effing running one more i just ran 50 routes you know one more
you want to get better one more and then it'd be like 15 more routes and then finally it was the last
one and it was 50 and then you get to 75 he's like he just wanted 75 throws yeah he wanted 75
throws whatever time says you do you got to you got it i remember those days man this what made us
great though what what was the moment that like you felt like you truly gained his trust and that
he could rely on you even if you mess up again he knows that you're still reliable you know what
i'm saying what was that moment what was that catch what was that play if it was a practice or if it was
He was doing West left.
Well, because he loved, he loved West.
You just were not playing when West was there, okay, Jules?
No, but he-
You couldn't have Tom Brady's trust when you were on the bench.
He was when Wes left.
He didn't like bench players, okay?
He didn't like it.
It was when he left.
He had no one, he had to trust me.
He had to, all right.
And then it was week one and 13 where we played Buffalo and we went out there and we
won.
I had two touchdowns.
And that's when I felt like, all right, because we had some,
we had some spurts where, you know, West would, we get banged up and he wouldn't play.
But he didn't like, trust me, trust me.
Until you had to be the guy.
Until you had to be the guy.
Yes.
And then he truly trusted you.
And that's the situation, though.
He doesn't really trust a guy that, you know, he's not able to throw to.
He's just got to see it.
15 times a practice.
You know, he has to see it.
He has to do the repetitions with you.
in order to truly gain your trust.
And it doesn't happen overnight.
No, he gains your trust.
And you gain his trust as well, you know, just over time, over time.
I would say my situation was when we played the Chicago Bears on the one on one
panther route when I was going in the snow.
Yeah, versus Brian Erlacker.
And he wanted to gain my trust.
He wants to see me be physical.
That's what he always emphasized me.
Be fucking physical, gron.
You're 260 pounds.
you're going versus 180 pounds or linebackers
that you're still bigger than be physical.
And this was the play panther out one out run.
I run into the end zone kind of hit the guy with my shoulder
and then turn around and the ball will be right there.
Because when you're physical, you know,
pushes the guy back a little bit when you use your shoulder.
You turn around.
Then there's that little ounce of separation.
And Tom can see that.
He can see the field.
He can see all the separation in the world.
He sees it.
He sees it.
He can see every little detail that's going out on the field.
And when he sees that little detail in that route, you know, with the physicalityness,
he knows that you're going to be open.
There's going to be a little window.
I hit Brian Erlacker.
We practiced it in that Friday.
He says, I want to see that in the game because I ran it great on Friday.
So the game comes when I won versus Brian Lerlacker, give him the shoulder, turn right around the balls right there,
right there, nice and low where it's always supposed to be in the red zone.
Boom, catch it.
And ever since then, I gained Tom Brady's trust right there and then on the spot, which was one of the greatest moments of my career.
I remember that.
You know, you had to see it.
That's what makes him, he's a dog, man.
He's an assassin.
He is an assassin.
What's your favorite Tom memory?
My favorite Tom memory is, actually, this is one of my favorite memories of all
time, you know, when we were playing the Indianapolis Colton, I ran that five-yard
out route, caught it versus Dequal Jackson.
I did a little spin move.
He kind of fell, did a little split.
It was like very great route by me and great after the catch, too.
And then I'm running, you know, I'm going.
There's a couple other guys.
And here comes Julian Adam in.
Kaboom just absolutely levels Adams.
The safety, you know, gets them out of my way.
I'm like, thanks, Jules, for the block, you know.
And then I'm running into the end zone.
I jump over Butler.
Yeah, DB.
Yeah, DB.
What's his first name again?
Darius.
Yeah, Darius Butler, who was previously on the Patriots.
And then he went to the Colts.
And now he's doing a great job in the media.
He kills him.
McAfee show he's doing a great job so shout out to Darius Butler but I jumped over his
ass made me look good flipped into the end zone I looked like an athletic 180 pound wide receiver
and then this was the moment one of my favorite moments with him Tom loved the route love the catch
loved your block he was so pumped up he ran full speed from the 30 yard line and probably because
I got him a touchdown on a play where it never should have been a touchdown and he came running
full speed and jumped on my back and went for a ride man he was i was like a pony on a horse man
i brought him for a ride man i was carrying tom brady around in the freaking end zone he was on my
he was on my back put the pony on the horse's back i brought him for a ride i was waiting for him
to drop that quarter in so the ride can keep on going yes i didn't want him to get off i was like
tom brady's on my back like like what else do i need in my life
oh my god yeah and it's one of my favorite pictures to sign to this day as well i don't think
he ever signed it it costs like five billion dollars to get him to sign a pitcher so like i always
signed the pitcher of him on my back and like i'm waiting for that pitcher to be worth a lot more
money once he signs it a couple you know but he hasn't signed it yet man that was a fucking
fun play that was a fun play thank you for that black oh you level Adams Adams he's talking in the
He's a good safety, too.
We used to battle.
He was with Denver, bunch.
He battled us a lot, man.
He brought it to and he wasn't scared.
He was good.
Yeah, there it is.
There's a pitcher right there.
Oh, wait.
It's signed.
There it is, man.
He's going for a ride.
I'm still waiting for those quarters, Tom.
Oh, my gosh.
There's Tim Wright right in the back, too.
We won the Super Bowl this year, didn't we?
Yeah, we were a Super Bowl this year.
Yeah.
I think it was.
Who Man was a tight end as well on the team.
Tim Wright and Who?
And who man?
I love who, man.
Now,
what was your favorite memory,
Jules?
My favorite memory was when we,
it's kind of,
that 14,
when he,
uh,
we hit that route.
He came up to me afterwards and he,
and he goes,
that was a championship route,
man.
And like it was nothing crazy.
That's special.
And he,
when he,
you know,
he goes,
that was a championship.
play, man.
And then we didn't win the game yet.
You're making me want a tear right now.
Because him saying that's a championship
route, that's a championship play, that means
a lot. Yeah. And
then afterwards
when we won, you know,
like that was his, that was when he
got four. And I just
remember, you know, there was so many memories
of him, like you said, how he's having the
ticker of the Super Bowl
location and the whole
story where I said, man, I'm going to help you
try to get to Joe. And
because we were both Bay Area fans love Joe Montana
and I told me he was the greatest quarterback of all time
and you know that all
that was just a fun memory
there's so it's hard to fucking do one
all right I mean I'm gonna start crying
I know me too there's a lot of memories with Tom
it's just great to see him he's doing so good
in the broadcasting booth
I mean if he just puts in 10% of the effort
that he did with the game of football
in his after career, in his post career after football,
he's going to have the whole world just...
Which you know he is.
To eat from.
He's going to be successful in anything that he does.
And that's what he's going to do.
He's actually going to go 100% all in with what he does.
He's great in the booth, like I said.
And he's been improving so much every single week.
And it just shows, he is actually human.
I mean, week one, he was good.
He got the win, but he definitely could improve.
And then all of a sudden, week two and three, you're like,
what the heck?
How did he just go from being like a rookie quarterback to a veteran quarterback in one week in the broadcast booth?
So just shout out to him.
I mean, he dedicates himself and he works on his craft like no one ever has before.
And that's what makes him, you know, the greatest, the greatest at everything.
He cares about making the people look right that give him opportunity.
He does.
He cares about that.
He takes it to heart.
And he cares about showing the people that has passed on him.
that they've fucked up too.
Yeah.
He loves that too.
He likes that.
So don't ever pass on Tom Brady.
No, I won't.
The only thing I'll pass on is that
I was kind of a little hesitant
when I said he was lame,
but he was pretty lame
except for when he wins a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay
and he gets hammered on a damn boat.
Like, where was that fucking Tom around us?
Mm-hmm.
I was bullshit.
Mm-hmm.
I was waiting for that the whole entire time
in New England.
I was too.
That's why I went to Tampa Bay.
I went there for that moment.
I didn't really want to play football again.
I just wanted that moment that I could actually get wasted with Dom.
But guess what?
He was on a separate boat than me.
I didn't even see him at that boat break.
So guess what?
I still never had a drink with Tom.
It took me all the way until the roast to have a drink with Tom Brady.
And that's why it was in the roast.
I said, Tom, I never had a shot with you ever in my life for a drink.
and he took a shot with me at the roast.
So that was a cool moment.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's been 33 minutes.
How long can we talk about this guy?
I think maybe we should have him on again for another episode.
Because literally, I can talk about this guy all day long.
I can go literally two hours.
The more we talk about him, the more stories that pop up in my head.
Same.
The more stories about him on the field, off the field, what it's like to be around him.
We could talk literally for four hours straight, Jules.
What kind of dude is.
So what type of dude is Tom Brady, ladies and gentlemen?
I think he is done.
I think this is easy.
Freak, dog, whiz.
I think this is easy.
Dude, dude.
I don't know.
What do you think?
If it's easy, let's hear, let's hear why it's easy.
He's just a fucking dog.
He is a dog.
Mental, physical toughness, always motivated.
He didn't have the pedigree.
He was, he was, we saw the Brady six of the, the six guys before him taken in the draft.
like he always had to go to long road he always had to work for everything even when he was at his top they were always talking about someone else
he's a fucking dog yeah i wouldn't say freak because a freak is like someone that has like the most athletic ability in the world
and he didn't really have the most athletic ability but what's made him so great was that he didn't need the athletic ability
because the dog was working harder than the athletic dog you know that wasn't the freak dog that really or the freaky person
that wasn't really working.
I think he's got freak skillness.
He's got a freak like shooting like basically like it's kind of like an archer.
Freak instincts.
He could throw.
Yes.
He can like throw rocks really good.
He could probably skip a rock really, really, really good.
He probably really good at pool.
Yeah.
Like ping pong.
Ping pong.
Yeah, you always beat him.
Never mind.
He's not good at ping pong.
Yeah, he gets really mad when he loses.
See, that's a dog.
That is a dog.
That's a dog.
He wants to fucking.
Wants to go again, though.
wants to go again he won't let you leave wants to go again he won't let you fucking leave i mean we and we
haven't even got to this guy's looks yet either i mean we can just say that he's a stud real quick
just because of how good he looks yeah i mean he right he looks younger than when yeah he got in the
NFL like his chin's jaw line freaking just his beautiful blue eyes he posted a picture the other day
on instagram like he's got like a six pack now like his arms are jacked like i mean he's doing
two days he is doing two days
he's doing two days right now he's got his body
he's still so that's why maybe
AI was fucking right
he's maybe he coming back
is Tom Brady coming back
I don't know he got six pack
he got a little
his hair's looking as brown as ever
he gave me the supplement
he saw my gray hair
and he goes babe here and he still
take this fucking eusha
I think it's like
whoishu or something
and some Chinese medicine
and you put it in the shake
and I just had it and my hair is already growing.
Is it, is my hair darker?
That's why I don't have a hat on the show.
I wanted to show off my hair because I had the Oweisha product.
It's like, ooh, I don't know how to pronounce it.
It's Oushi, ooh.
Oshy, I got hair.
Whatever it is, look at how good his hair looks.
It's just good looking guy.
Man, he's a dog.
All right, he's a dog.
He is a dog.
It's official.
Tom Brady is a dog.
Man, we could talk about him forever, forever.
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