Games with Names - Castro1021 on the Greatest World Cup Final Ever | Argentina vs. France 2022

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

Castro1021 is in studio! The streamer, influencer, and FIFA legend is with us to break down one of the greatest soccer matches of all time: The 2022 World Cup Final between Argentina and France.  (0:00) We kick things off. (1:00) Castro1021 joins us on the couch. (29:49) We go back to December 2022. (33:28) We breakdown these rosters. (49:10) We dive into the game. (59:48) We score the game. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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today coming out with streamer Castro. And if you haven't already, drop a like and subscribe to Games with Names. Let's go. Games with Names, a production of IHeart Radio. Welcome to Games with Names. Today we are looking at the 2022 World Cup final, Argentina, versus France with Edwin Castro. Edwin, in one sentence, why did you pick this game? Why did I pick this game? What a question, man. Listen, for me, for me, it fell as if, you know,

a movie I've been watching for 15 years had the perfect closure, the perfect ending. Lionel Messi winning the World Cup. Jack, is that maybe one of the best answers? No, the same thing. sentence? Well, you kept it one sentence. Usually people go into a monologue and they try to break down the game. That was money. Listen, I'm a big fan of the cast, man, so I can't prepare. Let's go. Let's go. Is it the greatest game of all time? Absolutely. Oh, absolutely.

It meant so much, man. Think about it. It's everything we want as fans to see. Messy lift the World Cup. But then here comes the new generation, Killian and Boppe. Oh, my God. In the final, dropping a hat trick. which hadn't been done since 1966, and he tries to steal the story that Messi's trying to finish. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure you watched the game. We all watched the game.

I mean, it was an insane game. And I'm a casual soccer fan. I got into soccer probably 15 years ago or football because of Harry Kane. Harry Kane started following me. He's a Patriots fan. I started following him. I became a Tottenham Hot Spurs fan.

And then I play a lot of FIFA. So that's how. You're a Tottenham fan? A Tottenham fan. Thanks for having me guys. And the reason is, all my friends, they have all their EPL teams, the Arsenal's, Liverpools, and Manu's and Man City. I was like, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with the hotspurs. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, you're in a, you're in a tough spot right now, but. Terrible. I mean, listen, it felt, it felt like the entire planet just got together during that final. I think it was like 1.5 billion viewers. it was insane and I was front row so to witness it was was pretty special man and something I'll never forget but it was more than just that game too Argentina lost their first game of Saudi yeah against Saudi Arabia exactly and you know Messi scored in every single round of the World Cup seven times so it was it was bigger than just the final but that that last game

man it felt like a script right it was just like it felt fake you know what I'm saying because It was 2-2, and then it was 3-3, and then I know you're a big fan of shootouts. That's how you like sporting events to end. And then that happened. Why am I a fan of shootouts? Listen, man, I was just listening to the podcast, and someone asked a question saying, like, what would have made that final better? You're like, well, maybe some shootouts, right?

I'm my God. Jesus, Castro? Casp are fucking coming from back. Let's go. Man, we'll jump into this game more. And I love your insight. This guy's did his research. Absolutely dialed.

What other sports are you fan of? What's your sports fandom? And who are your teams? It's obviously football, number one, football. And then maybe do we have football Americano? Do we have basketball? Do we have baseball? Maybe.

Football, that's funny. I like football, right? I'm a big fan of golf, too. I feel like that's my latest itch. But all sports, man, all sports. We've got the boys in the studio. We always have all sports from women's sports to, high school soccer. I mean, you name it. We watch it. And because I've been in sports my whole life,

yeah, all of them, dude, it's just... What did you play? Soccer. In high school? I played, that's where I peaked, right? That's where I, uh, I don't know why she's just laugh, right? Because she's like, that's so funny. You know, she just made fun of me. No, I was a captain of my high school soccer team, right? But, um, yeah, I've been playing since three club soccer. And then, yeah. Are you Bears fan? I am a Chicago Bears fan, man. Caleb? Big Caleb's fan. Got a lot of his rookie cards.

Oh, yeah. So you're a big card guy? Yeah, yeah. Are your collectives? Yeah, so for the last 10 years, I've been live streaming on Twitch. Yeah. Right? And it's mainly been me entertaining while playing FIFA, which I know you're a big fan of, right?

And then after that, I kind of diversified a little bit, and I opened up a sports card collecting e-commerce, you know, website, brand. and it's essentially where we break cards, we ship them to customers, and there's a lot of nice Caleb William cards out there. Heck, yeah. Have you seen Brady in the vault? I have. Is there any cross-pollination with that?

How does that work? Yeah, so they actually invited us in Dallas to go to their storefront and we pulled up and we shot some content and stuff like that, but we're more online-based. So, yeah, I follow that and that's pretty cool what they're doing. And a lot of ex-athletes soccer players are getting more into it.

And I feel like, you know, I don't want to, you know, take credit for anything. But the transition from the Twitch gaming side of things into the sports card, you know, we almost feel like we trailblazed it because we knew the entertainment side of Twitch and live streaming. But we kind of wanted to revolutionize how people, you know, sold cards or, you know, open cards. And that's something that I did for the last 10 years. So we added more mics. We added nice cameras. We put on a show.

It felt like a podcast while we're ripping these cards. So shout out to the cash to collects boys. But yeah, it was. That's, I mean, it's so big right now. Oh, yeah. We do fanatics fest. And just the collectibles. I always used to love trading cards.

When I was a kid, you get it with the stale bubble gum. Oh, yeah. Baseball cards. It's been really cool to see it with the new generation, which you're helping with that because one of the huge communication platforms out there nowadays is Twitch. And speaking of Twitch,

you're an insane FIFA player. I love FIFA. Who's the FIFA squad that you have, if you have a must-win game you're playing with? Manchester United. Your boys, I like them too. You want to know why?

Because they're not so high-rated in the game. Yeah. But I like to be good with them, right? And I know that if I come up against anyone, and if I pick Real Madrid, which is a strong team, I'm going to smoke you. But if I beat you with United, now it's kind of like level a little bit, right?

I've been playing with Man City lately. I like Holland. He's a tank, man. I just throw it up in there, let him finishes. You got fast guys on the outside, the wings. I forget my team name. I'm not as dialed as I once was.

I've been playing a lot of clubs lately. So that's why I play. Pro clubs? Pro clubs with my best friends. There's no way you're on pro clubs. Yeah, we do clubs all day. Your own character and everything? Oh, my own character.

And he's high rated and all that? Well, we're trying to work those ratings. I'm about, you know, we're working that. I'm trying to get, what is it? You're trying to unlock the different traits. I'm unlocking. What is it? Flay.

No, anger, no. What's the third? I forget, but I'm getting there. Okay. I'm a right wing. So do you build your character kind of like your real life character was? Yeah. I mean, I'm 5.10.

I didn't, I didn't want, I kept my weight. a little down because in soccer, you got to be a little faster and have that the lungs. So, you know, my guess about 168, 172, depending on the day, water weight. Okay. We're hitting speed, quickness, agility. We're all there. We're working on our long pass. Our game is pretty much speed, cut, cross up to my big dog, bent's in the middle and chemo and the, got to have the playing the other team. So, you know, FIFA is such a great way for, athletes or video game in general, A, to stay out of trouble, B, to communicate with the kids I've been playing video games with for 25 years.

And so these are the high school kids I grew up playing with, and we find time maybe twice three times a week to get on and play clubs. That's so awesome, man. You know, that's how I met a lot of my friends in the footballing world, right? Some boys that, you know, play for Manchester United. I got, you know, the blessing to meet them. And, you know, that's what they all say is that they travel. They've got these, you know, luggage cases with an Xbox or PlayStation inside.

And they take them to the hotels and all they're doing is gaming. And I'm like, that is genius. Oh, yeah. Like I said, it's a great way to communicate with friends. Keeps you out of the streets. You know what I mean? There's so many distractions from life when you're a professional in anything. when you have something that kind of holds you in,

you get to just sit there. I mean, it's a great form of rebooting for me. Absolutely. And it's fun too. When you look at the game, right? You see how realistic it is. It is. Right?

And you're just like, man, it almost feels like I'm in the game, right? But say you were to work for FIFA, you were like the president, and you could change a couple things from the game. Well, it's FC now, whatever it is. What are some things you're changing from the game? Well, listen, I am, I was fully deep. in the, you know, competitive side of the game. It's called Ultimate Team, where I'm opening up digital packs.

I'm putting my squad together. And then I'm going on line to play some of the best players around the world. And I'm trying to hit the top rank, right? I'm trying to get, you know, 30 and no, 20 and no games in a row without losing. And once you unlock that level, it becomes super competitive. And as we've seen throughout the past maybe five or so years, there's a lot of AI involvement now. right? And that's when you get to see all the glitches. You know what I'm saying? And so what I would do is I would probably tone that a little bit, right?

Just to make it a little more fair. But I know it's hard because coding a video game is, I mean, man, I can only imagine how difficult that is. So that's one of the reasons why I always try to stay away from the competitive side of gaming and lean towards the entertainment side, right? Which is what I'm essentially kind of known for. And that's, that's what I love to do the most. But yeah, man, I would probably, you know, tweak that a little bit or, or potentially make it an open world like Grand Theft Auto. Yeah.

Where you have your own character on pro clubs. Then you can go in, you know, train. And then you've got a story mode. I know NBA 2K does a really good job of that. So probably lean towards that too. I like that. I like that. Now, break us down a day in the life of a streamer.

No, I want to know, like, how do you get ready for your work day? Yeah. Is there a routine you have before? Do you, you know, you have a team that maybe gets you right now, but back in the day, were you doing your own camera settings, were you taking everything serious? Were you eating different? Did you plot out a certain amount of time for the day that you were streaming? Did you know what specific hours were best streaming?

Like, how is a day in a life of a streamer? Yeah. So, listen, that's a fantastic question. And I don't know if anyone's ever asked me that before, but, you know, you're going to find out that it's a bit, it can be a bit unhealthy, right? So I, I'd wake up maybe like 7 a.m. I wouldn't eat, right? I'd say goodbye to my wife, although I was just going to the room next door. See you, babe. I'll see you later, right? And I would, I would, I would sit there and game for eight to 12 hours a day, right? And what was different about me is that I had the highest of highest energies.

I'm one of those OGs that was just like, man, if people are going to tune in to watch me, I got to make it as most entertaining as I possibly can. It's being loud. It's, it's, you know, just never know dead airspace is what I'm talking about. And people love that, right? And I think they could relate to it because I feel like I, because I've been playing soccer for so long, I knew a lot about the real world game and it translates into the video game. We're looking for In For Messey cards. We're opening packs. We're playing the game. We're building teams based on who's performing well in real life. And so I'm doing that for eight to 12 hours a day. and it started blowing up.

And I would look at my wife and I was like, man, this is a lot of money. Let's do something with this. So this is where I started running charity live streams. And that's one of the things I'm most, you know, I guess happy for that I did that because we ultimately raised over, I think, a million dollars. And of me just sitting there, no sleep for 50 hours. I wouldn't shut it off. I did a 24-hour one.

I did a 50-hour one. The longest one I did without sleeping or even showering was 72 hours. How many milligrams of caffeine? Man, I was downing at the time. I don't know what the company called, but I was sponsored by the company, and I was just, dude, I was down in like two of those a day.

And obviously it worked. 400 milligrams? But again, that goes towards the, you know, it's a bit unhealthy. But an average, you know, eight-hour day, I'd go on, you know, eight hours. I'd come off. Obviously, I was exhausted.

right? Because it's everyone thinks like, it's just sitting there playing video games. Well, it's like, no, I'm actually like trying to, you know, entertain and talk a lot. My voice was always gone. It was always raspy and all that stuff. But it was awesome because it brought the community together, right? And ultimately, I think that that was my purpose

was to give people an escape from the real world and sit there and hopefully learn something or just be entertained and, you know? Yeah. Now, how do you know you had a good stream at the end? Because, like, after I'm done with my work, you know, or this now, or football when I was playing, I'd have like a debrief session after with, you know, some of the people, either teammates, people that I work with here.

And you sit and you debrief everything. Like, man, how do you think it was? Was it a good one? Shit, although there's this one play. Well, there's this one question. Well, we didn't get it. You know what I mean? Is there like a, is there a period of that after?

Yeah, I think. How do you know you got a good stream? Well, I think number one, if I didn't break any controllers, I was cool, right? If I didn't crash out, I was cool. And yeah, I would just, I would sit there, like you said, and self-reflect a little bit. Yeah. And I'd be like, all right, like, how was the energy in the room, in the chat? How were they towards me?

How was I towards them? And I always try to be as positive as I could be because no one wants to sit there and watch someone that's, you know, angry or upset or, or, or, whatnot. So I would sit there and reflect and I would just tell myself like, you know what, that was good. There were some days where I was just like, man, that was, that was, that was fucking amazing. Right. And those were typically the days where, you know, we would raise a lot of money for, for various charities and stuff like that. But yeah, man, it was, it's a little self-reflecting. Do you ever rewatch the Twitch? Never. I've never, listen, man, this is crazy to say, but in 13 years

that I've been in this industry, I've never rewatched a stream. I've never rewatched a YouTube video. I've never done any of that. Man, so there's got to be something because you're self-reflecting that your audience loves that you hate doing. What is it? My, well, crashing out.

They find it as entertainment, right? You know, and you could tell that they mess with you in the chat. They're like, oh, I'm going to say this and see if he chucks that controller. And at first, man, you know, it was almost like I was a rookie at it. Maybe it gets to you a comment here and there,

But then I'm like, ah, I know you guys are trolling me, man. So I'd go back and forth with it. But I think just, I never wanted to be angry. I don't want to do that. So, but yeah, there's things in there that people say. Obviously, it's an open world, man. It's the internet. That's crazy.

But one thing that I want to, I guess, kind of touch on is one time I had one of the worst things happened to me, bro. All right. And you're not going to believe this. But I was coming towards the end of a long stream. And my wife had just left, she went to Costco or something. And I had my headset on and I'm sitting there gaming, right? And this was maybe nine years ago.

And all of a sudden, my phone was always on my desk and it says, answer the phone from my wife. And I'm like, what the hell? The next thing you know, I get a call. And I have my headset on. And every time I was going to answer a call, I would mute my mic. If I muted my mic really quick, I answered the phone. And they're like, stand up and start walking. walking backwards.

And I was like, oh, I know what's going on. So I had the phone. I grabbed my left hand and I end the stream. Close it down. I get up. And then I put it on speakerphone, take off my headset. And you can kind of see where like the pan, if you go back and watch the Vod or you can kind of see me end my stream a little weird.

So anyways, I ended the stream. I have my phone. And I'm like this. And I'm like, yes. And they're like, okay, walk down, I'm on the second floor. Walk down your house backwards. Once you get out of your house, keep walking backwards. Turn right to the stop sign.

Do it all backwards. And I'm like, oh, okay. So I do all that. And I look like a weirdo doing it, right? I finally get to the stop sign. I turn around. There's lasers pointed out my chest. There's guys behind trees with shotguns, rifles.

They're all behind like, you know, squat it up. It's the SWAT team. And I'm like, oh, God. So I'm like walking slowly towards them. They're giving me instructions. I'm following all the instructions. Someone had called and said that I, dude, beheaded my wife. I had people hostage, all this stuff.

And it was scary as hell. Yeah. Because I'm like, man, what if my phone slips and I've got a red dot on my chest? Like, I'm, I'm fuck. So I told him, I was like, I know what's going on. I think I'm being swatted. I'm sorry. And then I looked at my,

I have cameras inside the house and my dogs are like in their little crate or whatnot. These dudes are walking in with just shotguns and rifles and stuff. I get it. It's protocol. Someone called and they had to, you know,

do it with, yeah. Because what if it was true? You know what I was saying? Yeah. I mean, that's the crazy thing about being. Yeah.

On the internet. Yeah. For like, you know what I mean? So then. And it's probably just some kid fucking with you. It was, they did say it was someone from like Birmingham or England or something like that. Oh, wow.

Yeah. So we got bots. We got bots calling in swats. So, yeah. We got bots calling in swats, baby. Man. That was scary. Only one swat and all those years, though?

I mean, dude. See, the ones that I like is when they call them. How do they know where you live? That's, yeah. I mean, dude, if you do enough research, I think you can. I don't know, man. I don't know. That's not the only time.

The one time, see, this is what they need to start. doing, right? They ordered like 25 pizzas to my parents' house and I'm like, oh, hell, yeah. And then I opened the, they didn't pay for it. So I was like, oh, yeah. I ended up paying for it, but. I hope there were. Domino's pizzas. Jeez. Pizza in their life. Yeah, no, it was. It was. Dominoes. Now, we got to do a little 2026 World Cup Preview. Oh, yeah. Let's go. So what are your thoughts on this new format? More teams, right? Which, in my opinion, could maybe lessen the

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Radio. I mean, it's kind of like when they expand the college football playoff. I mean, more teams, more games. Of course. And I think it's great for the World Cup because you're getting more countries involved. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I do hope that you see some of those, you know, countries that maybe you don't think will advance. I hope they do advance. Everybody loves a dark horse story, right? Well, how about our dark horse? What about the United States of America?

Are they going to have any shot of doing any dirt in this? Listen, I honestly, I think they've got the group of death personally, right? You've got Turkey. Those are alphas, man. Those are strong, strong boys. And then you also have Australia, which is one of those. Maybe they're the weaker teams. And then they've got Paraguay.

Right. South American team. I mean, they can ball. They're strong. But I reckon they're going to get out of the group stage. And I hope they do. Yeah. I hope they do. Well, they haven't had a win in the elimination stage since like 94 or something.

Yeah. It's been, you know, and then it's got to, we got to get it going. Everyone keeps on talking about the youth or something, the youth sports and the development of it. I don't know. Yeah, I think it's a, it's a combination of men. things, right? Obviously, the, the youth, I think player development is important. I also think that one of the things that I can relate to is that that age from 16, 17, and 18, I feel like a lot of kids maybe get lost in that in that age group, right? At least I did, right? You know, that's when

you're starting to drive, you girls, whatnot. So maybe, yeah, man, maybe focusing up a little bit in that age or having, you know, advise it and stuff. So which nation's going to surprise us the most, do you think, out of this? Oh, you know, okay, so this is something that I've, I've really thought of. So they're implementing AI into this World Cup, right? Obviously, the previous one that had VAR and all that stuff. I mean, I thought we just wanted to eliminate AI from FIFA. Now we're going to, we're putting it in.

Well, no, but like just, you know, the, the technical stuff. And I believe that it'll be a nation who, you know, focuses on that. I think Japan. To keep it short, Japan. Let's go Japan. Ooh, I like that. Right. disciplined, right?

Disciplined? Quick. Probably technically sound. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, who do you think? Who do you think is going to... For me?

Who's a dark horse? For me... Italy didn't even make it, did they? Didn't even make it, bro. You were looking for Italy in their... No, but I wanted to give them because... But I forgot they didn't... Yeah, no, they didn't qualify.

I'm gonna go with... Go Haiti. I like this. I think Haiti. They got some ballers. Okay. Got out the... Let's go.

And Morocco, I like what they did last, what are they, they were in the final. Final four last year, Morocco had a final four last year. You know, I like to see what they build off of that. Maybe get a little confidence.

Oh, yeah. Gain a couple, a little 14 year olds back then that turned into studs now. Absolutely. That's what's so fun about the World Cup. You get to watch

some of these young, unknown players get to play with, you know, the stud players from, the matchups, man. The matchups. The young ins too.

They get an opportunity. This is their time to shine, right? Who's your favorite young player you think is going to ball out? Well, I mean, listen, obviously, Lamin Amal is a young player and he's one of the best, if not the best right now. So I think him in Spain, man, they're going to pop off. I think they could potentially reach the final. There's also a...

What team's he on? He's on Spain. Barcelona. There's only 18. It's unbelievable. That guy's been killing it. Isn't he? He's unreal, man.

He's the closest thing I think we have had since maybe like a Ronaldo deino or maybe a messy. Ronaldinho. I'm sure you know about Deino, right? Of course I do. Brazil, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He used to be in all the damn commercials.

Oh, the new documentary is good. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. It's on my list. But I just remember seeing Ronaldino and all the Nike commercials. And I guess they, I saw a thing behind it that it only be one take. He would just do that messing around. and then, bop, yeah. It'd be done.

That y'clock. They'd have to, like, AI me or something, right? It's, it's so... I'd be there for, like, 18 hours trying to do the same trick. You've been to Brazil? I have been to Brazil. How cool is it when you're walking down the beaches of Rio? Everyone's doing the volleyball with...

Everyone is doing it. They don't even use volleyball with their hands. That's what I'm saying, man. So they're insanely skilled. That's what I'm saying. And in these countries, Brazil, Argentina, you're born with the ball. It's in your blood, right? It's like, their concept is, is,

find talent first and then we'll worry about the money later, right? And I think that's something that, like out here, man, and I get kicked out. Like, if I go to the pitch, right, to just kick the ball around, they're going to kick me off the field because don't mess up the grass. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Out there, it's like, no, dude, it's almost like you have to be picking the ball around. So, yeah, Brazil, man.

They're different out there, bro. Now, who's going to win the Golden Glove? Golden Glove, goalkeepers, man. Ooh. I'm going to be biased and say lamins for Belgium, right? Belgians are always... They're always pretty good goalies. Could you imagine, though, it becomes Guillermo Ochoa?

Dude, for Mexico. Is he coming back? Yeah, they just announced that he's coming back. Bro, unbelievable. I think he's like 41, 42. It wouldn't be the World Cup. It wouldn't be any sort of Mexico international game, but weren't with Ochoa, man.

He's a staple. He's a staple. How's Mexico going to do? I, listen, I, personally, I think they're going to do well. I think they've got, you know, a few, a few players that have been popping off on Chivas in the first division of Mexico.

And they've got a mixture of, of young ins with Hilberto Mora and some experienced players like Ezzon Alvarez. I think they're going to do well. I think they're going to be okay. I miss Chichita to you. Chichita, bro. My guy. Speaking of man, you, baby, legend. He's easy. He's a cool guy, man.

All right. Last question before we get in this game, who's taken the World Cup? 2026 World Cup. Oh, man, I listen. Just give me your top three. Top three. That you think. And we'll do like, if this is horse racing,

you can go win place third. All right, I'm done with that. I'm going to go with my number one pick, France. France. Frens? Fri. Bapé? Not just Mbapé, though.

Who else? They've got Olysee. They've got Usman Demballet, who's probably the best player in the world right now. now, right? I mean, they're stacked. Their backline is stacked with Kunda Saliba. Oh my goodness, man. I don't know who's going to get past that France name. On paper, they're unbelievable. Unbelievable. Who's someone that could get them though? Who's someone that can get them? That's not on paper, but in real life, not AI.

My goat, Ronaldo. Really? Portugal. Portugal? Maybe you're Portugal. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go. How cool. We talk about scripts. We're about to get into the game where Messi last World Cup He wins it And then what if Ronaldo come

Ronald already has one doesn't he? He doesn't he's got a Euro He's got a Euro Cup Now just a heads up If Argentina and Portugal Both win their group They could match up against each other In the quarterfinals

So you'd see the ultimate final Last Dance Messi versus Ronaldo Now how bad does FIFA want that happen. Oh, man, I think the entire planet wants it to happen. That might break the rating. Oh, yeah. I agree. I mean, there's like 800 million people that follow those two people on social media alone. How lucky are we? The year 2026, we get both of them still. Obviously, they're not in their, you know, prime, but I mean, man. It's still. Let's go. Name brand, baby. It's name brand right there. That's what we all want to see. Let's see it. I'm so excited for this 26 World Cup. It's going to be fun.

here in the United States, in Mexico, in Canada, North America hosting. Nothing more exciting. Nothing more exciting. More games, baby. I'm about to start doing push-ups. Is it cool if I just started doing push-ups here? You can pump a quick 10. All right, let's go back into time where the game took place.

And we like to go over what was happening in the real world, the other world, the pop culture world. This game took place December 18th, 2020. number one movie Avatar The Way of the Water Terrified my daughter She was not a fan of it as much She was a little scared Those blue guys

Those blue guys But she was what Seven at that time probably Yeah she didn't like it Freak me out too How about Mariah Carey This was four years ago She's still rocking number one song

All I want for Christmas She owns December She owns December What's another one probably That owns December I mean it's got to be Like some other or Bing Crosby type Christmas.

Ben Crosby probably. But Mariah, man. Oh, Mariah. Clockwork. Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Pat Mahomes, MVP. Caleb, Chicago Bear. Yes, sir.

Gets the Heisman at USC. What else happens? This is a crazy NFL time, too. Oh, this was the day when New England lost to Las Vegas, and I lost my over under $50,000 bet. Eight and a half wins. Eight and a half wins. That was it right there.

That was it. Oh, we watched it slip away. This was a painful time for me, but how was this time for you? What were you like, Castro, in 2022? Well, I spent a month in Qatar. How was that? For the World Cup. I know. And, and, well, you know, obviously there was a lot of talk before going into the World Cup about Qatar and how it's going to be and people can't drink and yada, yada, yada, yada. So I told my wife, I'm like, hey, let's go. I think something big is going to happen, right? I think, you know, either Messi or Rinalda,

we're going to win the whole thing. Let's go spend a month out there. there. We had a lot of cool opportunities with brands. And we went to a lot of games, almost all of them. And then Messi ended up winning the World Cup. And we were row one. So I mean, I couldn't ask for anything more. I mean, this is a great time. How was the streaming world for you right now? So how many years deep are you in the streaming world in 2020? In 2022, I think I was about maybe eight, eight years or so. But it was transitioning more from from gaming to IRL. Right. We were walking the streets of Qatar, meeting people. I made a a character of our Uber driver and people,

people loved him, man. His name was Abdullah. He took us everywhere. He knew all the shortcuts. So we were, you know, on the streets of Qatar, just showing the world what it was like and people loved it, man. They were, you know, we would go to the, you know, tailgating per se.

And then, yeah, man, we, we killed it out there. The numbers were great. People are asking me now if I'm going to do the same thing for the 2026 World Cup. And so we're thinking of getting an RV and traveling to all the stadiums. I mean, that would be. That would be lit. I bet you the crowd or what do you guys call it? The crowd?

Who do you call your fans? Your chat? Man, I'm a unk status right now. What's up, chat? What's up? What's a Mount Rushmore video games? Oh, man. I'd go with FIFA 13.

Oh, 13. FIFA 13, right? That's the one that I first started streaming on. and then I'd go with Super Smash Brothers. Super Smash is huge. Right. And then I think my last one, I'd probably go with Crystal version on the Game Boy, Pokemon.

Pokemon. Yeah. Yeah. And then I don't want to, I don't want to say any games on the Game Gear because that's going to make me sound a little old, but the game gear was pretty cool. You got one more, though.

One more video game. Let's go with San Andreas, GTA. GTA. Hey. Oh, yeah. So we got a Mario in there. Yep. Super Smash.

Well, balance. Well, balance. All right, let's jump into this game. Jackie, break down these teams. Should we get on these Argentinians? Out of the Argentina. All right. Let's get on these guys.

Two-time World Cup champs entering this World Cup, 78, 86 with Maradona. Who can forget that? Coming into this thing, the world ranking was third in the world. Lost to Flans in the round of 16 back in 2018. So looking for a little revenge out there. This was the first World Cup under Scoloni. Best squad they'd had pretty much in years. Entered this thing on a 36 game win streak.

I mean, you know the names. Messi, Alvarez, Di Maria, Fernandez, Moline. I mean, the squad was stacked. What do you remember of this team? What do I remember of this team? Is that they all grouped together to win the World Cup for Messi. That was, that was, that was their. on their agenda. That was their purpose was to win the World Cup for Messi. Obviously in 2018,

no, 2014, I believe against Germany, they lost an extra time. You can only imagine how that was. So they won the Cop America and then I think their purpose for 2022 was to win it for for Messi. So you look at that roster, who are the guys that you're circling that helped do that? Oh man, Di Maria. Di Maria. Di Maria. Emiliano Martinez, the good. goalkeeper. If it wasn't for him making his save against Colomouani and the extra time, France would be champs. He made an insane

insane save. Unbelievable. Now is Messi the goat over Ronaldo? We're going to go there, Julian. We're going there. We're going there. Listen, man, I think I'm a big Ronaldo fan, right? And everyone has their debates or

their moments on when the debate actually ended. And it really just depends on what you value in the game. Right. So I don't know why you're laughing at me, but listen, yeah, I think that Messi, at what, though, is he better than him as an athlete? Because Ronaldo as an athlete is probably.

Greatest fault times. Greatest. Go, who's, who? He doesn't stop staring at me, man. Who? I mean, listen, Ronaldo did it in, in the Premier League, in the Syria, in La Liga, right? In Saudi. I mean, he's still doing it.

What about Messi, though? No, listen. think rinaldo is is the definition of of obsession right but messy is supernatural you know god-given abilities you know what he can do with the football is just unheard of unseen of and i mean i don't think the world cup ended the debate per se i think it happened maybe in 2011 when messy put up i think over a hundred goal contributions um but everyone kind of you know chooses when when it ended for them. Some people like to argue 2017,

2018, Ronaldo, when he won four Champions League in five, five seasons was, you know, or Ballone de Oroz as well, but we all know that's

somewhat of, of PR, but yeah, no, I mean, it's crazy to think about. It's, I mean,

it's, you can go down any wormhole. Exactly. Either direction. I mean, I think we're all just lucky to get to watch both of them at the same time.

That's the correct answer. That's the cool thing. You know, at least we, get to watch them at the same time. You know, in other sports, you can't really do that. You hear Jordan LeBron. You'll never see that. Yeah. But, man, it's been a treat, especially with the growth of soccer in the United States. You know, I think they've been a huge part of that because they're so big internationally that, like, everyone in here is like, damn, we know that guy

too. You know what I mean? So, have you been to Argentina? I have not been to Argentina. Dying to go. Yeah, I haven't been. I've had, you know, I've been to Argentina at Stakehouses in Mexico, but I mean, I don't think that counts, right? No, yeah. Close. Yeah, close. Close. The Milneza.

One of my best friends is Argentina and his mom makes him a melanesa sandwich with, oh, every day. Milanissa is good stuff. Man, breaded, right? Yeah, breaded and a little beef and they thin it out. They put a little Swiss on there, little mayo on a French roll. Oh, shut out, Mrs. Drew. Saddow, Mrs. O'Yola.

Mrs. O'Yola. What do you think about Argentina going in this 2026 one? Listen, I still think they have a very strong team. Julian Alvarez is, you know, on fire right now, right? And they've got, again, a mixture of some of these young ins with experienced players. They obviously know what it takes to go all the way and win it. I think they're going to maybe go semifinals, right? But then I think they'll get matched up with, you know, a powerhouse like Spain or France.

And that's it. But imagine if he goes back to back, though. What if he goes? Unbelievable. Has anyone done that? Has anyone gone back to back? I don't think so. I don't think.

Maybe Brazil? He goes back to back as he go. I just say. I don't know. Let's get into France. Let's get into France. Italy, Italy 34 and 38, Brazil, 58, 62, it looks like. Wow.

In the back. No one in our lifetimes. Man, Brazil. That's insane. I got a question for you. If Rinaldo were to win the World Cup, is ego or not? For me, I don't know enough of the sport to have an opinion on it. Okay.

I look at both of them and I'm infatuated with their craft, how they take their craft. Rinaldo, like you said, is very obsessed. I was with a guy like that named Tom Brady, who was obsessed with his craft, who was obsessed with nothing but just doing the best he can possibly do on the field. messy, like you said, he just naturally looks like it's effortless to him. And he just turns it on, hits different gears.

And he's a smaller frame. And it's not as, you know, like when you look at Ronaldo, you're like, holy shit. That guy looks like he's supposed to be Superman. You look at like Messi. He's like David, man, David versus Goliath. And this guy knocks out the Goliath every time. You know, so it's just so fun to get to watch him. So I don't have a go. Yeah, interesting. You don't have a good. I basically said a whole lot of shit for nothing right there.

No, but it's true, though, man. They pushed each other. They pushed each other. And would Messi's legendary career be what it is if it wasn't for Ronaldo, right? Like, you know, they kind of just, they still are, I think. I think they're still going at it. Yeah. Let's jump into France.

Let's get in the blue here. World ranking fourth coming into this thing. Two-time World Cup champs, 98 and 2018, which means they were the defending champs coming into this. You remember they beat Croatia in the World Cup final 2018. Coming off a little bit of a disappointment in the Euro championships, around a 16 lost to Switzerland there. And then got bounced in the group stage for the last five World Cups besides the one they won, which is kind of surprising looking back on it.

Interred without some key guys, Pago was out, Benzimo was out. But no, I mean, this was again, a stack squad. Mbapé, Giroud, Hernandez, just to name if you like. Jouroo. Olivier Jouroo. I mean, this was a France squad that was, pretty much thought is a contender to win this thing entering. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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This one right here. Yeah, this specific France squad. I mean, man, they were stacked, right? Usman Dumbullet, Antoine Grisman, Jirud, who isn't really known as like one of those insane strikers for club, but for the national team, man, he was always there starting and he would always score.

He was an Arsenal here. right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, look at your ball knowledge. Let's go, man. We play FIFA, man. That's how I learned. So, I mean, yeah, man, they've got a great, what's good about France is they're really stacked always defensively. They got some big dudes back there, right? So to score on them ain't easy. And obviously, you've got the new generational players, which are imbapé, those young ins, man.

I mean, those guys are trying to make their story. Already has a World Cup. And yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be interesting to see how how bad they beat certain countries, in my opinion. Who's your favorite French player of all time? My favorite French player of all time. Man, what a question. What a question. I'm going to throw one ad to see if you know this guy.

Frank Riboree. Ooh. I don't know him. He was a winger. He was a winger. Teams. You gave me the teams. Byron Munich.

I think I do know him. He played a loban. There you go. You do know, man. I like rober. loved Robin too. He's a fast. Yeah, yeah.

They both were, man. And they both had that silky five-star skills. Who were they hitting it? They were at Lemondowski. Yeah. They were hitting Levendowski. And who was the, Mueller?

Yeah, Gerard Mueller. He's still playing too. Yeah, he's in the MLS with, I think, Toronto. Man. So that was my era, man, watching those guys play, Scarface, ribbery. That was my guy. Those Byron teams.

What a pool, bro. Well, those Byron teams on FIFA were so fun to play with. I love your ball knowledge because of FIFA. That's so awesome. That's honestly how I learn soccer. Bro, that's how I know a lot of these countries is because seeing their flags all the time, I'm like, yo. But, yeah. That's how I teach my kid. I go

and I'll play FIFA the night before the game. Then I'm like, we got to do this. You got to get this space. Hey, I need you over here. No, but, uh, did you ever try playing ball? Like, soccer? I played from four to eight. Oh, so yeah. I played four years of soccer before I could play football. If you were, if you were to play a position

in soccer, what position do you think? I probably would have been a, like a midfielder or like probably a center mid. Center mid? Midfield, maybe a wing. I'd probably be good around contact, strong, lower body quicker than fast. Yeah.

Yeah, a little center mid, center defensive mid. Maybe a cam. Probably a cam. A little petherty. I see that. What did you play, Castro? What did I play? The bench.

No, I'm just joking. Captain, bro. Get out of here. Come on. You're the cat. No, I played left wing. Left wing, left mid. That was my role.

Yeah, at the time I had speed. I'm left footed, so I was just cross it into the big boy, kind of like you're doing on pro clubs. Hell yeah. And yeah, I was always... That's why I play right wing? That's right. So yeah, left wing, left mid.

Amazing. All right, Jack, you get us into the lead up. All right, let's get in the lead up of this game. Argentina came out of Group C. That was Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Poland. And like we mentioned earlier in this episode, an opening round loss. First game to Saudi Arabia.

unheard of. The Saudis are going nuts in the streets. I mean, all the guys are getting Bentley's, whatever, Rolls Royces. It wasn't something crazy like that? So then they get back on track, went in the round of 16, beat Australia, beat the Netherlands in the quarterfinals and PKs, then in the semis beat Croatia 3-0.

They're right back in it. The ship has been written, all good. Group D for France, came out of that bad boy, beat Poland in the round of 16, 3-1. Quarterfinals, beat England, that was another great game. And then in the semis, beat Morocco, two nothing to advance to the finals here.

And then we got to, we got to mention also, this was a World Cup played in the fall, winter. Whoa. Crazy. They're usually in, because it's so hot. Oh, yeah. How hot was it there? It was so hot.

It was unbearable, man. It was middle of the desert. This is hot. Even December 18th. How hot? Hot, man. I'm talking like hundreds. Dry.

Dry. Dry, dry, dry. So dry. Desert, bro. Yeah. I mean, could you imagine? just, oh. No.

I mean, that's heat. And you were there a month too, right? Yeah, we were there a month. How was it food? The food, listen, I'm a fan, bro. I'm a fan. I'm a big fan. I'm not picky whatsoever.

I'm not at great restaurants, right? Yeah, yeah. A lot of Turkish food, you know, kebabs and all that. Oh, baby. Oh, yeah. Good stuff. Now.

Spicy food. I like spicy food. What games did you go to out there? You didn't go to them all, right? I didn't go to the mall. I followed the U.S., I went to U.S. Iran.

And then I went to, Netherlands, Argentina. I went to the Mexico games. I went to the Brazil game where Richardson scored a bicycle cake. Oh shit. Got to see that. That was pretty cool. But the obviously the most memorable ones were Portugal as well. I got to see Ronaldo play. Where the Argentina Netherlands, Argentina, Croatia, and then the final. That's so sick. I mean, you were there for a month. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the distance like between venues? So listen, we actually managed to go to two games in one day. Right? It just, it was perfect timing.

30 minutes. That's crazy. Are you live streaming the whole time? No, once you get inside the stadium, you can't because you get, you know, copyright and that stuff. So, um, but once the game would end, we would turn the stream on, travel to the next game and then turn it off. And then I would just go on social media and post from there. And yeah, man, I mean, for the final, it was mental because who, who, how was the stadium? They were nice. They were nice. the Luceai Stadium, the final stadium was beautiful. But you could definitely see that some of them were a bit rushed to make.

So you could, you know, there was one that was like the container stadium and you could see quite literally the containers and all that. But yeah, they were nice. Nothing like out here, though. Yeah. What was the atmosphere? Were people, was the crowd in tune to it? So during the knockout stage, absolutely.

But you did see a lot of, how do I say this? A lot of locals as well that were maybe giving like free tickets for some of the games, right? But man, there was a lot of countries that traveled extremely well. Mexico being one of them. There was a lot of U.S. fans. Argentinians are by far the ones that travel the most, I think. And then obviously the Brazilians do. Now, who's a country you think would be an awesome host country that's never hosted?

An awesome host country that's never hosted? Oh, man. I think the U.S. is going to be great. I know people are saying what they want to say, but I think the U.S. is going to be fantastic, especially with some of these stadiums where they're lifting the pitch. I don't know you've seen Cowboy Stadium

and what they're doing there. They're making it, they're lifting it up so that they're getting rid of all the on-field suites so that it looks like a Premier League game. You ever watch a Premier League game where like the first row is right by the sidelines? Oh, baby.

It's going to look real sick. They just put out, they just put out a clip of how they're lifting it up. You know how it's weak? That the international soccer guys, anytime they play in our stadiums, whether they're grass or not, they have to play on grass. And our NFL owners won't make all our grass,

all our stadium's grass. Really? Yeah. It's like a big thing right now. Yeah. The big things. Because like when, like I remember going to, you know, Argentina played a friendly against Brazil and I got to meet Namar and Messi

at our stadium. Yeah. And they would come in and they would put grass fields on our, on top of our turf. Yeah, they, yeah. And then they would pull it out and never, all the guys would take the grass, put it at their house because they'd just throw the grass out.

But, you know, the fact, or the, the thing is, though, like, we want grass as players because the grass is so much better for the body. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? So seeing Dallas go out there and make that, I mean, it's kind of like. So, yeah, Messi, when he came to the MLS, he said he's not playing on turf. He's not playing on turf. Yeah.

And he hasn't played on turf. Yeah. And people are putting that grass in because messy moves needs. He moves lots of needles. It's insane, bro. Break the game down, Jackie. All right, let's start this thing off. Words do not do this game.

Just one of the best games of all time. We will hit the highlights here. Starting off in the 20th minute, we break a scoreless tie. One nothing. We get a messy PK off of a D. Maria. He beats, wait, hold on. D. Maria on the left side there,

gets inside, gets a little tangled up in the box. Goes down. P.K., Messi's up there, 1-0. Let me hear you break that down. You break down that situation. I mean, first of all, the stadium right now, you can't hear anything. The Argentinians are going absolutely back crazy.

Traveled well. Okay, it's just so loud. Everyone's excited. And then Messi scores in the final. Oh, Messi's one inch closer now to get his World Cup trophy. Okay. And then, and then, and then they go up two new.

and now everyone in the stadium is celebrating going wild right i'm going crazy because i'm like babe it's it's going to happen you know we just spent 30 grand on these tickets right hey baby we're we're getting the money's worth we're getting our money's worth right in social media at this point is going nuts right anything that i would post would just get hundreds and thousands of likes and views and millions it's just going nuts but hold on there's more nothing's scarier than a two-o-lead. And that second goal was unbelievable. That's what they say in hockey.

I think that's in all sports, man. Honestly. I want to hear. You know what I'm saying? And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Messi's trying to finish his story, right? But Mbapa says,

no, no, not, no. Let me start my story. Let me start my story. He says, 2-2. And I don't know if you guys remember that goal that Mbapas scored. It was on the volley.

It was on the volley. First touch, bang. So it wasn't like some tap-in or anything. I think it was like outside the box. Outside the box. 18 yards. Oh, baby. You know, we're cooking at this point.

That's all volley. Yeah, volley. Just like I'm proclothes, baby. So then listen. Listen, listen. Remember when I told you that the stadium was going crazy 2-0 up. Now it's silent. Dead silent.

You could hear heartbeats, bro. So you're saying most of the stadium was going for Argentina. 98%. Wow. So you only heard of Fom Kahn? from two people Le Blues Exactly

Macroo was up there He was going nuts And those two people Were on the French national team So it gets tied up Two two two What are you thinking? Oh man

So you're looking at babe like fuck Those 30 grand You know what I was and I was also like Embap is really him And Boppa is really him So then They go into

Extra time Right We didn't just get 90 minutes We're getting 120 minutes. So it goes to extra time. What do you strap up? How is the stadium? What are your mental notes?

How are you feeling this time? And how is the social doing? What are people saying on social? So, by the way, when Messi scored in regular time, if you go back and watch the footage, I'm row one. He gets on his knees right in front of me. So if I like, if I just reach over,

I could touch him and tap him. Two times it happened that game. And so. Did you smell him? I could smell him, dude. I bet you he smelled. He probably has a good clone that he wears in the game. I was trying to get a good whiff, right?

The ball boy recognized me and he kept, like, throwing me the ball just to, like, play catch with him and stuff. So I was just, like, kind of messing around. And I'm like, man, if I ask this guy like, yo, can I watch the game down there? Is that cool? Right? But no. So the stadium was silent after the draw, right? After the 2-2.

But then all of a sudden, the Argentina fan said, man, if we're going to win that, this, we need to be loud. And then it got three times louder than it was at the start of the game or when they went up two nil. Oh my God. So is this golden goal right by now? No, this is just extra time. There is no golden goal. So you have five, explain the extra time.

Extra time is 15 minutes each half, right? If it's tied, you go to penalties. If one team is leading, they win. So then that's when Messi gets a go-head goal. Right? Three, two, an extra time.

second of the game. 108th minute. 108 minute, baby. So then you have a hundred and eighth minute. So they have a little baby half time and then they go into 15 minutes again. So they have a one goal lead going into the back 15. Oh, yeah.

So what's going on then? How is the crowd? Are they like on edge? Everyone's going crazy again. Everyone's going wild. So is Argentina playing at that point not to lose the game? Oh, yeah. Or are they playing to win?

the game. No, no, they're, they're wasting time. They're trying to hold on just to win the game. That's over. What's Mbapé doing there in this? What's Mbapap doing? Give me the ball. He's asking for the ball. He's demanding. He wants to take over the game. So is Himmethy Shalameh going to take over the game? What happens? So, so that France get a penalty two minutes before the match ends. All right. And Boppe buries it. Himmathy. Himmathy. Three three. So it's three three. on that 118th minute. So there's 12 more minutes to go, right?

Or no. Two more minutes. Two more minutes to go. Two more minutes to go. And then extra time. No, two more minutes to go and then pens. It's three, three and extra time. They both scored.

But don't you get the additional time? Yeah. Yeah. So you get two minutes and then additional time. Yeah. Which could be five. Could be five. Could be five.

Could be a little bit. Yeah. So how's it go? I mean, dude, right there, it's just everyone's just like, no pens. No pens. But if you're a casual, which everyone on social media at this point, they were demanding penalties.

That's the perfect way to end the game. But the problem with penalties is, I mean, dude, it's a coin toss. And coin toss. You know what I'm saying? So how's it end? They go into Penn. And what I think, by the way,

somewhere in that extra time, think it was like maybe, yeah, it was when it was 3-3. So in the 119th minute-ish, Columwana gets an opportunity. It's just him through on goal. It's a 1v1, bro. Emiliano Martinez gets folded,

but he like opens up his leg and he saves it. That's the determining factor of the game. That's clutch jeans from Emmy Martinez. Argentina's goalkeeper, okay? So I told my wife, hey, if they go to Penns, there's no chance that Argentina lose

because of Emmy Martinez. He's a menace, dude. He's talking shit to the guy about to take the pens, right? sure enough, he saves like two, right? And then Argentina makes them. There he's it. Man. And that moment right there, that was just, that was spine. That was chills throughout the spine because you saw Messi not like, he just, he just fell to his

knees. You know, he finally did it. He finally got his World Cup. Everyone crying. People were crying. Just bawling their eyes out because it's like you couldn't believe that Messi had finally won the World Cup, the fashion in which they did it, extra time and then penalties. Two goals and a PK. And then everyone also saw how insane Mbapas stepped up that they were like, bro, this guy's just going to keep scoring. And he did. He scored a hat-trick.

Reminds me of the 2018 AFC championship, Tom Brady versus Patrick Mahomes. Patrick, having an outstanding football game. and still not being able to take the torch from Tom Brady at that point of time. Little changing the guard. Little changing the guard. But it's very similar, isn't it?

Oh, similar, man. Sports are badass. Sports are amazing. God. So Argentina wins, stadiums nuts. You're looking at why if you guys spend 30 grand on tickets, it's the best 30 grand we've ever spent in our life. I mean, what do we do after this?

the game. So I was, I was, I was like in shock for a little bit, right? After the game, confetti everywhere? Yeah, man, the streets of Qatar outside the stadium were just surrounded, man, just crazy. And they did a mini little bus tour with the Argentina fans. So we were just kind of like staring like, wow, this actually really happened. This is so sick. It felt, it felt amazing to witness. I was vlogging. I just wanted to get everything I was feeling because not everyone can say they were at the, you know, World Cup final. So it's one of those. opportunities that kind of came about from, like we started the conversation, me sitting in my room playing video games. So it just felt like, man, this is, this is where it kind of got me.

You know? It's crazy where life goes. Yeah, yeah. When hard work and opportunity meet, buddy, and that's what you've been doing. Yeah. Thank you. That's why you got to go to the World Cup, get to witness one of the greatest matches of all time. How about the damn celebrations in Argentina? They burn that place down almost. You see that? I don't know, nearly in the streets. How do you even manage that?

Like, how do you manage so many people in one gathering, just come together? Unbelievable. Put a bow on a jack- Just to put a bow on this one. Argentina won four, two, and kicks. This game immediately broke the internet. Haled as an instant classic. Mbapé became just the second player in World Cup history to have a hat trick in the final.

Joining Jeff Hurst back in 1966, England. Messi finally got his World Cup named player of the match Argentina got their third World Cup first since Maradona in 86 as we mentioned earlier Messi got the golden ball Enzo Fernandez won FIFA young player

of the tournament award Emilio Martinez Emiliano Martinez unbelievable World Cup of course wins Golden Glove goes viral for his celebration you can look that one up we all remember that and Argentina went nuts bro celebrations everywhere

four million the streets You know what? We got to Maradonia. I get in like a wormhole of him just warming up for like three hours. The Instagram rules on Instagram.

Oh yeah. I sit and just watch Maradonia warming up. I mean that guy was a legend. He does it with so much ease too, right? He's just juggling like, just playing with the balls. I don't even do that with my hands,

let alone my, you know? Shoes aren't even tied. Yeah. This guy's just out here. I don't, his warm up was like beautiful. Beautiful. He was amazing.

All right, let's name the game and score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Remember, decimals are encouraged. We came up with these group of names. If you have a name that you have in your head, we'll use that. We came up with Messi versus Mbapé, Messi's Last Dance, the greatest World Cup final ever.

Messies coronation. This one's for Messi game. Which one do you like? Or do you have something that you and your friends call it? I would go with, I like the greatest World Cup final ever. The greatest World Cup final ever. I love it. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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Let's score it. The stakes of the greatest World Cup final ever. Zero to 10 decimals encouraged. The stakes of this match. I'm so excited to hear your thoughts because I listened to the hockey one and you wanted. shootouts, Julian. So I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with 9.8. 9.8. If it was Ronaldo, maybe I'd give it a 10.0. Stakes, okay. The stakes are very high for this. And with my explanation being messy, this could have, this could have been his last time ever doing it. We didn't know that he was still going to play. And he's still messy right now. So, Argentina, France, two huge names, World Cup, huge final.

I'm going to go with the 9.2, the stakes of this match. It'd be higher if it was going for something more historically record-breaking. If Messi was going for a back-to-back, you know, or you know what I mean? I went 95. Uh-huh. 9-9-9. nine former teammates this is once a four year tournament two big dogs like this is my go higher than this I didn't mean a good job this is the guy nine nine yeah that's the high that's the

highest we've ever seen that's crazy he knows mad now star power there's gonna be a lot of star power oh yeah this bad boy zero to ten decimals encouraged oof oombe chomenei messy di maria emi Yolte's two His last World Cup goalkeeper for France Let's go with 9.9. It can't be 9.9.9. It's 9.5. 9.5. You also got presidents in the building.

Elon Musk is there, right? This guy, come for. There's a lot of people. Can I change the chance? I was there for the 9.6, baby. 9.6. There it is. Come on. I mean, I'm a casual and I knew like half the team. I'm going to say, bro.

You know what I mean? That tells you how big the damn star power is. I'm a casual. I knew like, all the names. So it's got to be about 95 for me. I mean, 300 million people what am I doing?

I went 9.4. I think I'm tripping. Okay. These, by the way, these are like record breaking numbers for everyone. Yeah.

This is going to be a high. This is going to go to shootouts. Huge. This is, I mean, the gameplay, if you're looking for gameplay, this is good gameplay.

Okay, you have to go first on this one. I can't wait to see what you give this. For me? Yeah. Yeah. Remember shootouts. Shootouts.

Shootouts. And stars. , you're forming a high level. You wanted shootouts. You got a go. I got to go 96. That's great.

That's a really good score. Drama, like scoring in two minutes in the soccer. Not high enough though. Come on. That is high. P.Ks. P.K. Shootouts.

Patrick's. I mean, Patrick's the goal. There's even a. It's about to be the highest scoring game we've ever seen. There's even a comeback too. Argentina was up 2. It was an insane.

Yeah. The comeback. The comeback extra time. I've never given a 10. I mean, listen. I don't want. 96 is fucking huge, bro. Again.

that's huge That's not That's an A plus almost True true I'm gonna go with 9 9 9-9 9-9 because I'm not gonna give it a 10 Right There we go he agrees with me

Wow Another 9-9 for guy guy I went 93 Yeah 99 High guy What more do you want out of a game It is what do you want out of a game? It is it's hard What?

What makes it What does it need to What needs to happen? 96 could be potentially The highest score I've ever given A game play I know, I know, but what needs to happen in that World Cup final for it to become a 9.8 for you? A 9.8 to maybe 10, there needed to be an alien come down on the field.

In a streaker. I need to see UFO. We had a streaker. There was a streaker. I was there. Barry-Nuckleberry, though. I don't know they weren't better enough. If Messi buried it before PKK, like in the last like 30 seconds, I think you could get

We wouldn't have shootouts. Yeah, we love the shootouts. I like shootouts. I like shootouts. You're right. You're totally right. You're right. We almost had a bad extra.

I mean, stop and time in regulation was nuts. There's more drama. All right, let's move on to the name. We grade the name of the game. This name, the greatest World Cup final ever.

It says it all. Also the cultural relevance to how people will think about this game in 30, 40, 50 years from now. The greatest World Cup final ever. I mean, that's pretty self-explanatory. I'm going to go with 9 point

because I chose it. I got to go with 9. I had 9.7. I mean, it's probably going to be a 9-5 for me, which... People are going to remember this game forever because... Because Messi, this could be Messi's only one.

It could be. And he's, you know what I mean? So this is... Are you okay? Oh, I don't know why I scored it before we knew... Before I knew what we were going to name it. Can I change? No, yeah.

All right, all right. Let me get up in the nines. Come on now. this is going to be a guy you allow it. Is this a new high for you? We're going to see right now. We're going to see where it lands on the list. Castro.

Yes, man. We might, guys, hold on here. Okay, it's 9.49. Is that a top 10? Is that a top high? Yeah, that might be top one. That's number one. I did 9.1 just because it's still a little early.

This game just happened. We don't know how it's going to be received in the future. Okay, 9.49. It's our new number one game. There you go. Wow. Number one game. Just ahead of the 20, 28 to 3, Super 1 51.

The international bump of football. Yep. Brett, one month away from the 2026 World Cup. One month away. This feels fitting. Number one game. And not very close either. Let's go.

Let's go. Holy shmoli. Everyone hit the comment section. Let us know what you think. Crazy. Holy. We might need to pop a bottle of champagne or something. Oh, baby.

Number one. You can see. Here's our other games. Man. Wow. Castro, will we miss anything from this number one

greatest final World Cup ever in the history? Of all games with names? I think we covered all of it, man. All right? I think I want to end on don't let dreams be dreams. I still can't believe

I'm sitting here with y'all talking about this game. And that is an absolute honor. We'll explain that. Don't let dreams be dreams. What's that mean? Yeah, man. like sometimes I guess you don't you don't know what some of your dreams are right so you got to just keep going in life and then when you find out what your dream was you'll understand that

it wasn't easy to find what your dream was it's never been easy and it's never going to be easy but in the end in the end it'll always be worth it and that's why I guess I'm I'm here with y'all Just freaking go. No dream's a dream. Oh yeah. Freaking love that. Let's go, man. I love that. I like to say no dream's too big. No dream's too big.

No dream is too big. Similar, very similar. Very similar. Oh, yeah. Man, Castro, unbelievable having you on here. It's been really fun chopping it up about soccer or football. We are huge fans. Everyone go check out the 1021 podcast Los Aliens Foot FC Football Club. Los Aliens Football Club.

anything else? That's, that's it. That's it. Thank you so much. Man, it's been an absolute pleasure. Thanks, bro, for coming. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. What a game.

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