Games with Names - Doc Gooden's No Hitter with Jay Mohr | Mariners vs. Yankees (1996)

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Jay Mohr is in studio! The actor, comedian, and New Jersey native is with us to relive one of the most memorable pitching performances in Yankees history: the Doc Gooden No Hitter from May of 1996. Jay joins us on the couch (02:45). We go back to May of 1996 (42:29). We take a look at these star studded rosters (58:40). We dive into this game (01:20:59). We wrap up with another edition of Starting Five: Sports Movies edition in this week's Chill Zone presented by Coors Light (01:47:27). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler, and we are on a mission to find the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode, we are covering Doc Gooden's 1996 no-hitter Mariners versus Yankees with actor and comedian, diehard Yankees fan, Jay Moore. And we get into talking the legendary Yankees run of the 90s. I'm so happy just reading these names. This was like some of the best times of my life. I just love this team so much. LA versus New York sports fandom.

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May 14th, 1996. Yankee Stadium. The Bronx. New York. Bottom of the ninth two men on one out strikeout pop-up ball game. This is the Dr. No Game. Let's do some dips. Welcome to games with names. Today we are looking at Doc Gooden's no hitter Mariners versus Yankees. May 14th, 1996 with Jay Moore. Welcome to Nuthouse, Jay.

My man. In one sentence, why did you pick this game? I was there. Yes. You have to understand we had the best player in the American league, one of Don Mattingly and we never with Buck Showalter as our manager, we always topped out like almost playoffs all we were just at couldn't get over the hump. Mattingly retires with a bad back.

Joe Torre comes in and we're all like, Joe Torre, who the fuck is this guy? And then it becomes Joe Torre's Yankees. And he also brought in like Ruben, like Doc Gooden was old. He was like almost 40, maybe he was 40 during this game. And, but we also had like Cecil Fielder old, Ruben Sierra old.

They brought back Mike Messina old, Roger Clemens old. It was like what the Raiders always try to do in football. Like, no, no, you're all right. Come on, you old crazy man. But the thing with a no hitter, when you go to a football game or like a Super Bowl or a World Series, you bring all your hype with you.

This was a Tuesday, which is, this was the day I auditioned for Picture Perfect. And I checked my messages from a payphone outside the audition, and my downstairs neighbor, Milton, said, hey, you want to come to, it's Milton, you want to come to the Yankee game with me tonight? I'm like, sure.

First inning, hey, he's got a no-hitter, ha ha ha. Fifth inning gets a little weird Seventh inning you can't breathe eighth and ninth inning Excruciatingly stressful as a fan and it's against Ken Griffey juniors Mariners J. Buhner Edgar Martinez Paul Sorrento a rod it was not it was every pitch you were like It was Excruciatingly terrible. All right, is this the greatest game of all time? For me, that I was at, sure.

But I've been to a bunch of Patriots Super Bowls that won against the Rams. You guys were 18 point underdogs. You were still throwing the rock at Kent State. And then you two performed at halftime. I brought my dad, that was the first Super Bowl after 9-11, and they did where the streets have no name, and they had silks on the sides of the state.

I never saw my dad cry before. And they had the names of the departed in alphabetical order going up the screens. And when the song was over, I'm getting choked up now, my dad looks at me and he's crying, and he goes, they only got to the M's. I was like, my God. And then you guys got, then they got to play football.

It seemed so stupid. Jay, what are you up to these days? More Stories podcast. More Stories podcast. You have an open invitation. I know, you got to get me on. Well, I tried once. Well, you hit me up a day after.

Yeah, I'm like, I'm a jilted lover. We'll get on there, we'll get on there. Yeah, I ain't worried. No, doing the podcast, I'm not on the road so much anymore. That's a young man's game, the road. It is. Always five hour flight from home. Just doing standup and sitting in a hotel room

in Albany for two days. The road, it's gotta be kind of fun early on in it. Yeah, oh yeah. And then it just becomes a grind. Did you get into football, like if we compare show business and athletics, I went in for fame so that I could get girls. And then I would also make money. And then it becomes, I want money to get girls,

because now I got a little, like what was your MO going into sports? Me? I just wanted to make team to prove to myself that I could be the guy that I wanted to be. Oh, it was really an internal thing? Yeah, I mean, of course everyone wants the money and stuff like that,

but I remember when I was coming out, I got a contract to go play for the British Columbia Lions. And I was so ecstatic. And it was like, I was gonna get like, it was an incentive based deal and it was like 180 grand. If I started to be like 200, I'm sitting there like, I'm gonna be rich. I don't know how I'm gonna spend all this money.

But the thing is, I just wanted to play football Like I was always against the odds with all these To the naysayers and to the people but to me I always felt like I could and I was always I had this chip on my shoulder were You know, I was trying to prove people that fucking belonged here where I didn't I was pretty focused Where's that chip come from? Do you think? It comes from my dad. Your dad, you and your dad were close? Me and my dad are still very close. He would challenge me.

My dad would challenge me a lot. So you're pleasing your dad every step of the way. I'm pleasing my dad every step of the way. It's amazing, isn't it? Still, I'm still doing it. Yeah. You have that relationship with your father? My dad's very apathetic. like not a lot of passion for things.

So it was like, and my mom, I grew up in an alcoholic house. So like it was chaos and he was gone a lot. And then my mom was raising us in alcoholism. So it was, I think it was my way, doing comedy was my way of just, it's what I could control. Some people do eating or bulimia, or some people do drugs.

At that age, it was like, I can make people laugh and they're right in front of me. Everyone's happy. I can control this like a marionette. But I still, you're always just trying to please, I think we're all just trying to please our dads at the end of the day. I mean, if you have that relationship with them.

But we had opposite relationships with our dads. That's what's interesting to me, and we had the same MO. Yeah. How do you mean opposite? Well, your dad and you, your dad was rah rah. My dad was rah rah, but he had a he had a. My dad was in a book, like, huh, what? OK.

My dad was very, well, my dad didn't, you know what? Like, my pops didn't have a dad. So he was very, he was very experimental. And he had a thought process of what he thought great dads did. And he went to that, but he didn't know what that was. But he also knew when he went too far, my dad was also the lover in the family.

My mom was cold. Really? My mom's cold. She would always, you know, like, you two need to stop fighting, like that. You know, my dad would sit there and like rub your feet after he whooped your ass.

What's your dad's name? Frank. Think about how amazing Frank is that he had no father to learn from. So all the love you found and received and felt from your father, he had to figure out a way to create it on the fly. There was no like schematic or diorama.

1000%. And that's what I, I explain that. This is the kind of insight you get on the more stories podcast. Yeah, this is good insight. Well, you know, well I gotta get on there so we can get some more stories. There it is. Cut the promo. So young J. Moore, when you, you got into comedy because of the chaos in your household, when did you know that you were pretty good

at making people laugh? Oh boy, it wasn't until probably six months in. I was 16 years old and I did stand up at a plate. Hold on, let me get a, is this sponsored water? It's my water. Perfect hydration, 9.5 pH. You want to keep those alkaline levels perfectly in the right meter so you can get that recovery

that will give you the perfect recovery for your... I'm Jay Moore and my pee is clear. And with clear pee that means you have a great hydration level. Yeah, well it's implied. Perfect hydration level perhaps. There you go. Don't second guess the man. It's his water.

You'll be out on your ass. Did you guys have the chart in the locker room? Jules we used to get p-tested before I got we have to piss in to our our Our dietitian and he have to check our pee. No, you can't go out until you drink two bottles I have to when I was in rehab a guy had to watch you piss. Yeah, you well not in like this one But if it was that's my job Yeah, if steroids you gotta pull, you gotta pull and you gotta pee with your butt cheeks out.

D out in front and he's gotta watch. Yeah, what a great job. Kindergarten style. Kindergarten style, pants down. That's to keep the fake dick, right? I've had to do, I had to take a shit once because I couldn't pee. I had to shit and the guy had to sit and watch me shit,

bare knuckle Barry, and I'm sitting there trying to get this P to him it was bad Did you ever pinch the helmet before you peed so he to impress him? No If you saw the guys that was walking around I there he saw some stuff that he was impressed by Yeah, he wasn't gonna be impressed by me. He's like I used to work with Warren Sapp. That ain't nothing We won't go into that today. Damn, damn. I think I did stand up to get back to your question.

I was born a comedian and when I finally saw a commercial to do an open mic for teenagers, I went, it was like, oh, that's why I'm obsessed with comedy. I'm supposed to do it. So I wrote three minutes, three to five minutes of material and I went on stage and it was like, it's an exercise in presence. It's very, you all of a sudden, every sound,

like the ice machine, this, that person's like touching their pants or just everything is relevant all of a sudden. It's kind of like doing acid, you know, you're just like, holy smokes. Everything is everything all of a sudden and I have to keep talking. And then, but when I did stand up the first time,

it was a Sunday at noon, not great setup. And then- Was it a church after church? No, it might as well have been, right? I wore my nice shoes. And then this guy goes, what are you doing Wednesday night? There's an open mic in Hackensack, New Jersey. Come meet us there.

And I was like, all right. So I went to the Wednesday open mic. I'm still in high school. I was like, I mic in Hackensack, New Jersey. Come meet us there. And I was like, all right. So I went to the Wednesday open mic. I'm still in high school. I was like, I got to go up first. I got school in the morning. And they were like, great, don't worry about it. And then they said, what are you doing Saturday? There's an open mic in Montclair.

So everywhere I went, I got invited to another place. So I, for the first time I found my tribe. Cause I was, I was a weird kid. I was a wise ass and then I'm a wrestler, and that's like being, that's a weird monastic life, you're just this lone wolf, you can't really share what you're going through with anybody. Now all of a sudden I had these people

that loved what I loved, and we talked about that thing we love, I was in this like real fertile garden. Community. Yeah. You felt community. Yeah, I had my locker room finally. Exactly. Now, you wrestled as a kid?

Yeah. What weight class? 105, 129, 135, 140, and then I coached for a while, Palisades High, Crespi High School, and Beverly Hills High. Oh wow. And at Fight Science on Washington. Now, were you a wrestling kid and like a theater kid, or was that all inside, and then once you got into

stand-up you kind of started hitting your thespian? No I wasn't a theater kid at all because it wasn't cool and I lived in fear of not being accepted. I mean you know my whole mo was just hope everybody likes me that's my first addiction is your approval. Yeah. If you don't like me I'm not sure how to act so I I just like what you like, so we get along. Yeah. Just like Jack. Yeah, so. It's kind of like Jack.

I'm the same way. Yeah? Yeah. All right, going to a meeting later if you want to tag along. Hey, I'm down. My afternoon is wide open after this. I love how these guys get mics. That's impressive.

I got to step up. They're in the show. They're part of the show. That's Jack and Kai. Jack and Kai. Little Dinny. About Jack and Kai. About Jack and Kai. Jack and Kai. Little ditty. Two American kids going up here. Storm the Capitol on January 5th. Look at him. He went a day early.

I think that might be like, that might be our like third January. Adam Ray did the same. I didn't say January 6th, did I? Fifth, fifth, fifth. He said a day early. Day early. That's pretty good. That's a little undercutting a little more. That's the kind of stuff you get on More Stories, baby. That's a little edge. Little edge. Let's go. So you're a wrestling kid in Jersey. Start doing standup, 16,

running around all these open mics. Where did your sports fandom come into in all of this? That's a great question. Because in Jersey, we had the Newark Star Ledger and we had Yankee games on Channel 11. Phil Rizzuto, Frank Messer, and Frank White were the announcers. Reggie Jackson, and then after that, Don Mattingly.

And I don't know where it came from. I just think I loved rooting for something. I love that thing that we're all talking with your buddies at school. Remember when you're in grammar school, you don't realize there's divisions to football? Yeah. So we're like, oh, you know, Steelers are in first place. I remember this kid, Gary Malosha goes, my dad says the Vikings are in first place. And we're like, why?

You kids are fucking idiot, fucking Vikings but they were yeah but in that we didn't know from probably like eight years old too it was exactly that and you're dropping f-bombs then he was Gary Viking for the rest of his life for the rest of his life man nothing like when your mom dropped you off into like second grade and as soon as you saw her drive away and you were with your boys, you're dropping fuck. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah.

Oh my God. We had a football field painted, I lived on a dead end that was flat and we had a football field painted on the street. So that was every day. And it was, if I heard my son, either of my sons speaking the way that I spoke at that age, I would have sent them to military school.

The apple don't fall too far from the tree. They're doing exactly what you were doing. My youngest goes, well you know how, you know like when I'm at my mom's I curse, like I can't help it, right? I'm like, what do you mean you can't help it? You know what he asked me, my youngest? Like your kids are probably smart.

We'll see. I got a real smart one. Jesus Christ. It's amazing when you have kids that are complete opposites. I got one kid, my 22 year old's at Oregon, he calls me up because I'm really struggling. I got this Earth science final, it's kicking my ass. I've been studying for six weeks and I figured it out that if I get a 70 on this final exam,

it'll bring my GPA down to a 90 and I can still graduate with an A. And I went, huh, yeah, I can't get your brother to dry his feet when he comes out of the shower. So I think you're the smart one, I realized. Yeah. You know my youngest asked me the other day? Oh, yes.

Is Jackson Jewish? I go, your brother? He goes, yeah. I go, how could he be Jewish if you're not Jewish? He goes, I don't know how this stuff works. He goes in his bedroom and slams the fucking door so hard that I'm in my kitchen going, maybe his brother is Jewish.

It was the nineties or it was different time. Like he shook me. Yeah, I got a little girl and- Oh, you're dead. Girls will take you out. You wonder why mommy drinks in the garage You're so stupid you fart when you pee you took me to Target and you wore a red shirt. It was humiliating Right now she's at a great age where?

You know, she's not like that. I hope she doesn't go like how old eight No, but it's it's honestly a great age. We just went to the Dodgers game yesterday and she had a fucking blast and she's all excited for camp, school's out. So we're at the stage where she absolutely still loves me. And I'm hoping, you don't have any girls, do you? No. See, it's different with the girls.

It's different. Yeah, I would hope so, yeah. They warm your heart, man. If I had a girl, she'd be a serial killer because I would never tell her no. Yeah. I'd be like, all right, get her a pony. Jesus Christ.

Lily's not hearing this one. She's been lobbying for a pony. She's been lobbying for a pony for the last fucking. Little ditty. Lily and a pony. I know. Jack and Kai. Don't ever.

No, it's Jack and Kai, money. Sorry, sorry, as our Jack and Kai I'm riffing I'm riffing. So what's your hierarchy of sports then when you were a kid? I Was your it was Yankee talk about Jets. So how the fuck are you? Because the sack exchange I'm 11 years old and it's gas and no mark gas. No, it's Joe Kleko It's Marty Lyons and Abdul Salam. They were absolutely Joe Kleko as Marty Lyons and Abdul Salam. They were absolutely, my first thing about football was there was two guys with like 20 sacks

on the same defensive line. They just get into the playoffs. They lose to the Browns 14-nothing in the wild card game. I'm like, all right, I'm in on the ground floor of something great. Basically it's PetSmart stock. Yeah. I thought I was getting in with Coca-Cola and I got in with MySpace.

It was on top at one point. At one point. At one point. So was Richard Todd. But I don't think the Jets... They won a Super Bowl. Three. Yeah, before I was born.

Rub it in. Three. Herman Edwards, Chad Pennington, that was... and then Parcell. Nothing matters. This is what I know about being a Jets fan, nothing matters. It will go wrong. You could have every first round pick

and they will suck a bag of dicks. You know what, it's sad. It's sad. It's past sad to amazingly hilarious. It's Aaron Rodgers tearing his Achilles before he completes a pass. I went, yep. That's exactly how it goes.

Yeah, is there hope this year? There's never, what are you saying? No hope. Why am I Richard Dreyfus? There's no hope ever. Do you understand that? There's never hope for the New York Jets. We don't like the new coach?

I don't even know who it is. Who is it? Glenn. Oh, I love Byron Glenn. I love corners. Justin Fields looks good too. He was fucking Jets. No, no, no.

We're high on him. No, I didn't say I was high on him. I love him. But it doesn't matter. That's what they do. They get you sucked in. It's like the mob or being in the Hells Angels. You can't get out.

Who's the quarterback? Justin Fields? Justin Fields. We could have drafted him instead of the Mormon guy that's a MILF lover and we take Zach Wilson instead of Justin Fields and now we have Justin Fields. That's the most Jets thing ever. I'm shouting don't you see? Do you know what Jets stands for? What does Jets stand for? Just end the season. Just end this season. Well, any season. I watch teams play football and they convert on like third and six.

It's like I'm watching a magic trick. I go, oh, wow. I'm like, I didn't know you could do that. Third and six and you're not going to run a draw again? You know. Jets be jetting. Jets be jetting. I watch you guys. You got guys like Jabar Gafni

looking like all pros out there. Like you guys had the schemes. You had it. You were an animal. I'm like, I'm just waiting for, if you were on the Jets, they would have put you in the Wildcat for 15 straight snaps.

You would have been signing autographs for parking meters two years into your career. Probably, probably. Oh my God, they're the worst. Yeah, so Jets number one, Yankees number one? No, it was growing up, it was Yankees, Jets, and then it was Jets, Yankees. Then when I was like 20 and I moved to Manhattan,

it was Knicks, like, oh man, Patrick, another team. Just, why can't they get past that? Why didn't they fire the coach? I don't know dude. Thibodeau? I thought he did pretty good. Well at least they got a new one already. Who do they got? They don't, that's the point, it's crazy.

You! Shit, I don't know, basketball. Oh, fake it till you make it baby. Come on Jules. And then I move out here and I'm into the Lakers. And then obviously, you know, with my beautiful wife. Yeah, the lake show. They were fun to watch this year.

Man, Lucas a witch. That was like when they first got him, it was looking real good. I've never seen, that was, I didn't realize he was Pele level fame, like Ronaldo. It was other, like his first game, there was three circles of photographers filming him with his head down during the national anthem.

I've never seen that. I've been to every home game in the last 10 years. I mean, he's a world figure. Yeah, he's Pele. That's crazy. It's gonna, we gotta get him in shape, Jay. He's in shape. He looks really in shape. He's been training, I's crazy. It's gonna, you gotta get him in shape, Jay. He's in shape. He lost some weight.

He's been training, I've been training with him. You didn't know me when I was fat. I didn't. I'm coming out of it in that picture with the little hat on there. I was up to 240, kid. Why? I put down the pipe, I picked up the fork.

Why? I quit drugs and ate. That's what'll happen. Good food out there. I quit drugs and ate. That's what happened. Good food out here. Mexican food will get you. I was coaching, wrestling, and fighting on speed. Staying up all night, burning a lot of calories. Got some greenies.

Yeah. And then I stop all that, and then I go to meetings every day where they serve cake. Cake and cookies will. It's like an equalizer on a stereo just going bang, bang. And then just back down. Will you look great right now? I feel great.

You feel great? I'm on the fucking... I'm in the Nuthouse. You're in clear. Yes! Now, no hockey? Devils came when I was 14. See, yeah, we said that!

I fucking called it! I go, what's this guy? He's a Jets, Yankees, and a Devils fucking man? No, I don't... It's too fast for me. Even watching the game two nights ago, even when they play it in slow motion, I don't know where the fucking puck is. I don't know what's happening It is a fast game. I didn't start watching hockey until I Went to Boston really and then I became hooked

I mean I watched I went to my dad true you guys were gonna remake Buzz and buddies you and Dino Chara Well, he and you were to be Peter Scolari. You don't know the reference. Tom Hanks sitcom where they lived in a woman's house and they had to dress as women to get by. Graves sitcom. I've seen, I think I've seen memes of it. I was afraid you'd be insulted and want to fight me. I got nervous halfway through that explanation. You're right, you're a wrestler, Jay. There you are, there's you and Dino.

This was a show? This wasn't a movie, this was a show? No, it was a daily show, it was great. Maybe get Gronk in there for a little bit. And no one could tell. Now that's, you just see that in Venice. You ever hang with LeBron at all? No, no.

I think that's the best thing that happened to Luca, is that he got to see how LeBron prepares. It's true. Yeah, I mean. That is the best thing for him. Well, who was that guy for you? Was there a guy? Tom Brady.

Yeah. I mean, I can go in there, you see this guy get his arm worked on 24 seven, he's only eating avocado and fucking deer poop or whatever it is. And he was eating avocado and fucking. Yeah. I was like, all right.

Well, whatever he, and like he. Deer poop? Yeah. I just caught that. Because I think there's like some good stuff in there or whatever, but he would eat and fuel his body and he was the oldest guy in the room and he was playing like the youngest guy in the room.

Yeah. Which LeBron, you could say the same thing with him now. Stand up for me that was Dane Cook. I'd go to the Laugh Factory every night, me and Dane in the like late 90s. And every night it was like, who's going to have set of the night, me or Dane? And I remember I was in the back,

I'm just like goofing off, I'm smoking weed, drinking. I'm like, whatevs. And Dane goes up and I remember the bit, he did a bit about his mom, when your mom makes your bed in the summertime and there's so much humidity, and the sheet just stays in the air for like a minute, and he just stood there, and he didn't talk,

he just stood there, and I could see my childhood bedroom, I could see the sheet, I could see the window, I could see my backyard, just like something, I was like, holy smokes, and he held for the laugh, and then it wasn't funny anymore and then he still didn't move. And I realized, oh, this guy's completely outworking me. And there's been like three different times in standup

and each time it was Dane Cook where I went, I gotta get to work. I was always latching onto the stud of my team to learn why he was the stud. So even at a young age, when I was eight years old, I wanted to hang around the 11 year olds because or the nine or was a 10 year olds on the junior Peewees because they were the best guys. What were they doing to get them to make them so good?

When I got to the Patriots, I just sat there and I would watch Kevin Falk, how he prepared who was in his like 12th, 13th year. Garrett Blount. He didn't come into it way later. But the older guys, Teddy Bruski was still there. I wanted to see why were they still there? Then I would try to copy what they did, and that's how I learned.

But Tom was one of the big reasons that happened. Who are some of the other guys that were in your craft in comedy that you looked up to? Like, you, Dane Cook motivated you. Is there any other guys? Well, when I came up in New York, my manager, Barry Katz, owned a comedy club in the village around the corner from the Comedy Cellar.

It was called the, he was from Boston, so it was called the Boston Comedy Club. Idiotic name for a Manhattan comedy club. That sounds great. Boston Comedy Club. And every night it was me Dave Chappelle Dave a tell bill burr Patrice O'Neill Keith Robinson rich boss Jim Norton

Dane cook I mean when I tell you Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday It was us Wow Every sink and you didn't want to be the last guy to the club because they had, they could see you walking up and they'd have a block head start to make fun of you. Yeah. See, we all got there early and then whoever was last like, man, look at those tight pants, what are you, you know, dozens right away.

And like we were so, like iron sharpens iron. We were so battle tested. You go on the road and the crowd sucks and you're like, I don't fucking think so. We were so, like iron sharpens iron. We were so battle tested. You go on the road and the crowd sucks, and you're like, I don't fucking think so. It ain't me, it's you. And you can just do great because we already had our biggest competition was with each other.

That was your locker room. That was our locker room, yeah. You know, because that's how we treated work in New England. And we watched each other pee. That's a locker room. Callback. Did you guys shower together? I wish.

Any fun stories between there? Like some of those green rooms, like we always ask athletes, what's a fun locker room story? You know, we would- I think it's more in the car because you drive to a lot of gigs. Do you remember Ralphie May, the 600 pound comic?

Ralphie, one of my best friends, rest in peace, big brother. We were driving to Phoenix from here and it was pouring rain on the 10 in the middle of nowhere. Like the kind of rain where like, yikes, you gotta do 20 miles an hour on the 10 freeway. And then the rain stops and the guy that was driving the car, my friend Walter, looks to the left

and you just see this white snow capped mountain top. And he goes, that's what God looks like. And I go, oh hell yeah. And Ralphie's in the back and Ralphie goes, absolutely player. And then the rain comes again and it stops. And I'm like, there's God again. And Ralphie in the back goes, this show is.

And then it's pouring rain. And Ralphie goes, hey, here comes God again. It was an Entenmann's truck next to us. So every time we were looking at the mountain, he was looking, he just looked to his left. He, we're like, there goes, that's what God looks like. And he just turns and he sees a big donut on the side of a truck. He's like, it's show is player. That's a great story.

We almost died laughing. Like we almost drove off the road. Nothing like the road. The travel sometimes the best part. Yeah, but when you're a car, you had a team. Like I'm always alone. But that's your team right there. Yeah, but that was driving to a Phoenix gig,

like flying to like butt fuck Iowa to do Uncle Spudgy's chuckle hut by yourself. It's not, I mean, you can joke around with the guy next to you, but eventually he's going to think you're coming on to him. It's not fun anymore. The same could be said when going to Buffalo. Yeah, Buffalo is a tough hustle. People that grow up there, they're a different breed.

They love it though. I know they do. And you know what? They are some of the coolest people. They're the greatest people. They really are. When you meet people from Buffalo, they'll sit and like do some Bill's mafia shit to you.

But then they like, then they want to drink a beer with you. Full respect to Buffalo. In some fucking like crazy sweats. I couldn't live there. I couldn't live there. Fucking Gronk is from Buffalo. It makes sense. How the fuck they wind up in Arizona?

Parties? There's girls. Girls, parties. Gronk's from Buffalo got me, dude. We'll be right back after this quick break. In 2012, 16-year-old Brian Herrera was gunned down in broad daylight on his way to do homework. No suspects. No witnesses. No justice. The call was horrible. I replayed over in my head all the time.

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Who is the best comic to be on the road with? Burt Kleischer. We love Burt. Burt was amazing. Burt's funny. Burt, because Burt opened for me. All my openers are now doing arenas and I'm here. Hey, Burt was here. Hey, Burt was here. now like doing arenas and I'm here. Hey, Bert was here.

To supplement the arenas. No, like Bert Kreischer was fun because he was up and coming and he was just, he's the best storyteller I've ever been around and he's very infectious when he tells a story. Passion. I remember one day we were in San Jose and we did radio and I'd bring my openers with me to do radio so they get the experience, you know?

And then we eat at like this local greasy spoon place and Bert, he can, first of all, one of the most naturally strong, like Bench's 320. He's jacked right now too. Bench's like 330. Yes. And he orders a burger with an egg and jalapenos and onions and fucking sauce

and then the other the dookie sauce and the thing and there's another thing and bacon and he just crushes it. So then we go back to the hotel, we take naps and we have this thing, let's meet back and we'll lay by the pool in the afternoon. So the comedy club sent a fruit plate to my room and we're sitting by the pool and Bert's eating grapes and then Bert goes, oof, do grapes give you guys gas?

No, they don't. But that garbage plate, that fucking garbage pail can you aborted this morning. You ate an aborted garbage pail kid you aborted this morning you ate an aborted garbage pail kid from reference. That's a big half a gram. This is gonna be a good... Bert's a good time. He is he's a he's very fun guy. I used to, him and Tom Sagora, I used to say okay

here's the deal I'm gonna I'm gonna play a song you know they always go like you have your song you come on stage to I, I'm going to play a song. They always go like, you have your song, you come on stage to. I said, I'm not going to tell you what the song is, but you have to do, your first joke has to be about whatever song I bring you up to. I like that game. And they were both game.

All you want in comedy is guys that are willing to play along. That's like some like bounty shit right there or something. Allegedly. Allegedly. Poor Jonathan Velma. I know. It's your fucking job to kill the quarterback.

Now, because I made 50 bucks, you got to suspend me? Yeah, exactly. Get the fuck out of here. If I was commissioner, that wouldn't have happened. No. I would have doubled the ante. Made it 60. And I remember once we were at the San Jose Improv

and Bert came up to Girl from Ipanema by Lou Rawls. Tall and tan. And he goes, he just comes out on stage and he goes, that song's about a whore. She's a fucking, like he went nuts. And it was like six minutes straight. I was like, hmm. I felt like Obi-Wan Kenobi when Luke Skywalker

finally tags the target. That's, what other kind of stuff did you guys do? Mostly just gay stuff, mostly. Yeah, nice. Gay humor. Gay humor, a lot of tapping each other in the nuts. That's guys stuff. Guys will tap each other's balls all the time.

You never see two ladies at a barbecue like, hi Michelle, blblblbl. Yeah. Oh God, you got me in my flap. A boob slap. Like a flick of the nip. Nip flicks? Yeah, that's what guys, little boys do.

Like they sit and like try to flip each other's dicks. Cause all you know, you gotta get it once. And then the rest of your lives together, you just, you could be literally in the vestibule of church, you go, and the guy goes like this. Yeah, every time. And you got him for life. Flinch. You got him for life.

And then you flinch. But you're always on the road usually alone, so it's not like that goofy. Usually it's like this sad radiohead video where you're just sitting in a hotel room listening to the air conditioning, debating whether or not to go to a Robin Tug or something. That's reality. That's the road.

But you're in Fort Wayne, Indiana, so is that really the dice you want to roll? Could be a sting operation in that area. Well, you don't know anything about that. Don't. No, I don't. Stand up now to where it was. What's your thoughts on stand up these days?

I think it's gotten to cottage industry. It's too much like, if I'm an Indian comic, I can go play to Indians. If I'm gay, I can do gay rooms. If I'm trans, I can find my trans audience. When I was coming up, it was, they would literally stop the music at a disco, hand you a cordless mic,

and you had to walk out onto the dance floor between guidos and do 20 minutes of comedy. And they were like, what the fuck, hey. And like, you can never be great if you can dictate the terms of your journey. So it's very cataclysmic. Wow, that was wise. That was wise.

That's great. Woo, wee. I'm going to put that on a T-shirt. Don't dictate the terms of your journey. Like, sometimes, there has to be struggle. You had struggle, I had struggle. I've done bar, I've literally done bar, I did a bar mitzvah like five years ago.

Four years ago. It was my first paid gig after rehab some mother and son emailed my agent Shout out to Matt Frost frosty the showman. He goes. Yeah, they did kid and the mom just love your stand-up I was like buddy having a stand-up in six months, you know, I've kind of been busy getting my life together I flew to it was outside of Cleveland, it was like this 16 acre property, and there was like bands, this kid had money. Cleveland Jew, like it. Cleveland, yeah, you could say it, I won't.

And they, I'm circumcised, I'm in the tribe. We'll take it. I did it twice, because I meant it. Only 18 million. Your son's Jewish too, man. Each end, yeah. You got a Jewish son? Both.

Well, you said one, I thought- Mazel Baruch Ha-ta. And I thought- Mazel, baruch ha-ha-ta. And I had to go up, this kid's, and it's just kids with yarmulkes running around and 90 year old people. And then some band that you and I don't know, but the kids know, go up like some shit band. Yeah.

And they're like, here he comes, J. Moore. And there's 13 year olds. Then there's a gap, the width of and there's 13 year olds. Then there's a gap, the width of this room, 90 year olds. No age in between. And it was all right, not what I'm, like they've never seen me before, so they're having a good time because I'm requested, but in my mind I'm like, yay. What was the joke that hit?

I honestly don't, I wish I could. What was one that you're like, they didn't like that one? I don't, I wish I could, I remember I said, I said, you guys are, you guys like, I know you don't want to be watching me, you're 13 year old bonered up, let me tell you something, you got to get out there and have sex. You know what happened to me when I was your age?

I had sex with a girl that was Native American, and every time we would fuck, it would rain. Jesus. The kids loved that one. What did the grandparents say when you dropped it a fuck? I don't know. I looked out at one old lady and it was going like this. They couldn't hear it.

Some Aba's over there. I said I was over there. I had sex with a girl that stuttered and I don't know if she was going to have an orgasm or she was just trying to tell me something. She was like, fuck, fuck, fuck. I'm like, Oh, say it. She's like, phone, your phone's ringing. So like I was doing well with the kids because it was dirty. Kids, you drop a fuck, they start laughing.

The 90 year olds are like, what's an orgasm? What is this pleasure he speaks of? What's your process into going and writing a bit? I'm not a good writer. I'm a great reporter. If something happens to me, I can't wait to go on stage and talk about what happened to me. So you're using inspiration from daily life to talk about? Like my son asking if his brother was Jewish,

I'm like, well, there's, I've just been writing, but I don't, I'm not, but to sit down and write a joke is not a truthful process. And then I go on stage like, you know, I was in the mall last week, and that's the kind of comedy I always hated, like you've been in the mall last week for four years you suck Like we're like what what about you so when you think of something like when you you brought up my son's Jewish Do you write that down?

Yeah, I like bank it I've been I've index cards all over my house and I'll just write Jewish. But I have another joke that's Jewish. So I just write Jewish twice. The other one is if you have, if you have a friend and you're not sure whether or not they're Jewish, they're not. Because they will tell you they're Jewish all the time. What'd you do this weekend? Well, we went out on Michael's boat. I sat in the front. I'm a Jew.

You're like, that doesn't even make sense. But they got to tell you, you worked it in early. He has a fucking punt returner. He's a Super Bowl MVP. He's got to tell me he's Jewish. You'd be like, you know I'm an MVP. Like, work that in. You got to, you know, there's only 18 million of us, Bubs.

How many Super Bowl MVPs are there? Only one. Wow. Only one? In this house. Only one, baby. Oh, there's 56, seven. Does that work in your contract, a bonus for MVP?

No, he's got a trophy. A local car contract, or? You don't, I had all that. Going to Disneyland? That, you get that. Okay. You get like a local car contract or you don't I had going to Disneyland that you get that Okay, that's it. You get that commercial. What's the Super Bowl bonus payout? At that time it was probably like if you won the Super Bowl with all the accumulation of the other playoff games It's like maybe a half a million bucks That's a lot more than a hundred and eighty thousand from the Thundercats or whatever fake team you're gonna play for

BC Lions BC Lions, I'm an alouettes guy Me too. I'm a Toronto Argonauts guy. I can not suck dude The Jets of Canada, but when you think about it though going back to the pay it's actually we're getting bamboozled You guys are for sure. Yeah, because Kyle Turley is a friend of mine and he put this in my head early. Yeah, like when you're playing in the playoffs, yeah, you're getting an additional, like for that divisional round,

but if you get the first round by, you don't get paid for that week of work. You don't get, so you're not making any extra, even though you've been in the playoffs for two weeks. So you get the same. But your body's getting taxed extra. Taxed.

And then so, but if you think about it, that's 30 grand. Say a guy making $20 million a year, he gets a million dollars a game. So we're gonna play in a playoff game that's gonna be extremely highly rated for, I usually get a million dollars for 30 grand. When all the work's done in the preparation, the practice, that's what you're really getting paid for.

You know what's amazing? That's what I got paid for the Bar Mitzvah. I'm not kidding. 30 racks? Yeah. That's a good little payday. Yeah, but I didn't have to take any hits. Exactly.

Just my pride. Some could say that was it. That's, and also your guys' medicals completely fucked up and they put, they've had it both, the owners have had it both ways. I don't know how comfortable you are talking about this in a public forum, but Kyle Turley was the guy early cause he had a concussion, concussion. And like, well, we can't give you, you know,

it's don't, you don't need full-time medical. It's too dangerous to give you full-time medical. Well, then guarantee it's nuts. They complain in both ways, right? Yeah, it is, I tell you right now, the retirement plans with the annuities, the 401ks and all that stuff, unbelievable, the NFL gives us.

So why do you complain so much? Because the medicals. Jewish. Oh my God, anti-semite over here. Full, it's full. Because it's- You know what he he is a real schnorrer. Well, I'll tell you what he really is. That's the one thing.

The one thing is the medical, we do not care. You said that like we were hunting in Tennessee. You've been around a while. Going on a decade. Yeah, are we going on a decade now, each other? More. Oh my God, don't remind me. It's too much.

All right, let's jump into a segment where we go back in a time around where the game took place and go over pop culture This game took place May 14th 1996 this is gonna be fun Twister never saw it loved it Bill Paxton Dorothy. I love Bill Paxton. He's a good guy Dorothy was the little the it was the thing that they had to put in the tornado so they could read The data from Wizard of Oz Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz Okay, number one song crossroads by bone thugs and harmony used to literally wake up

Before school on MTV jams when you watch make a music videos I'd wake up early because they'd have like a rap like 630 to 7 Music video section and they would play this one all time. I love this song. Were you a big Yo MTV Raps guy? That was a little before me. It's funny you're way younger than me. I'm 54. I'm 39. Yeah it was way after it was a little after me a little before you. It's like the Korean War for us. Yeah Korean War. I was like TRL remember with Carson? is it? With Carson. Total Request Live. Ananga Lewis, Rest In Peace. Yeah.

Carson Daly. Mission Impossible, Primal Fear, The Quest, and Flipper. What's The Quest? The Quest. That's a Van Damme. Oh, it was one of the older Van Dammes? Yeah. Fuck yeah.

I love Van Damme. I don't remember that one though. This was about the time Jerry Maguire was going around, right? Yeah, exactly. Christmas time, it was Christmas. And what people don't realize about Jerry Maguire was it premiered at number three that weekend.

Mars Attacks was one and Preacher's Wife was two. Denzel. And then the next weekend, Preacher's Wife was one, Mars Attacks was two, and then I think week three it was finally number one, which is never happy. Usually you drop half your audience each weekend. That movie was insane. It was pretty damn good.

Sugarman. Just Sugar. Changed my life. That was my first movie. That was your first movie. Explain was your first movie. Yeah. Explain it to us. How did you get it? I auditioned to be the quarterback that Jerry O'Connell played. Kush.

Kush, yeah. And I just could not pull together a southern accent that day. And then they said, well, you auditioned to be the male nanny. And I said, sure. They said, well, the sides are in the hallway. Just memorize them best you can and come back. So the sides were three pages long, but the second page was all, the guy says in the movie, like,

I want you to use this before his date with Renee Zellweger. You think he's going to give him a condom, but he gives him a cassette tape. And he goes, this is my, I had that cassette. I owned that tape. So the page is him being really passionate. This is John Coltrane and Miles Davis, two masters of improv in their element

with Cannonball Adderley and Philly Joe Jones on drums. Like I knew all the guys, cause I studied the liner notes. So I memorized it in like a second. They probably thought I was like a savant and they came back in and killed it. And then Jim Brooks said, what about sugar? And I was like, yo,

there's no way I'm doing that from the hallway, like give me some time. And they gave me a week to memorize it. I didn't own a suit. I had hair like Bret Hart, the hit man from W-W. Like I had pro wrestler hair. Did you cut it? Not until I got the part, but I slicked it back

as best I could. Oh, I had no business getting that part, but I killed it. I killed it. You absolutely killed it. And then I went in to read with Tom and he tried to kill me with it. How? He knew all of his lines, he was completely off book

and it wasn't like, no, take your time, it's okay. It was like, he was Jerry Maguire, he was getting fired and he was fucking pissed at me and wanted to rip my head off. And if I couldn't hang, it's like going from the jugs gun to Tom, like dude, run your fucking route. Like this is this, this is this.

And at that moment it was, and you know, it's amazing. I'm sure you get this in sports. It's like, you're in like, you're probably mid route going, oh, this is where guys flame out. This is where guys choke. Now you're, thanks for playing along. Anyway, gang, my next guest, please welcome Andrew Wiggins.

East Boston. So you get it. Cruz is firing off fucking. Jermaine Wiggins. Yeah, he's a guy. Snowplow. Wiggie. Great game in the snow game. He had like four or five, six catches.

East Boston. He is East Boston. Yeah, I'll tell you So yeah, and then I just I did good with Tom and there was a moment where you know I say I came here to fire you and he goes and then there's a pause and I have the next line and I go It's really you should say something So I just kept staring him down and I let that pause grow and I realized, oh, they're going to think I forgot my line. So I kind of have all the power. So I just got to measure when,

before somebody says the line from the sides and I could feel the tension like a balloon going up and I went, it's real. And I just felt everybody going, oh my God, like he, fuck it, like I tricked them. And I was like I I got it I know I got it. But in all fairness, I feel that off after almost every audition Yeah, you get like 1% of them. Yeah. Yeah. I was like I killed that shit. They're like well they went with

Your aunt Ruth or something Do you say aunt or aunt I say aunt yeah me too. I'm an aunt guy. Yeah Same when when you get the nobody asked you Do you say aunt or aunt? I say aunt. Yeah, me too. I'm an aunt guy. Yeah. Same. When you get the role. Nobody asked you. When you get the role. I'm an aunt guy. Oh.

Was that, are you trying to do the comedic timing shit too now, are you two over there? Fucking peanut gallery. Peanut gallery. He brings in the story of him. Does this cut into my time? This is cutting in. It's called yes, ending.

You know. Yeah, just keeping it in the air. The. Does this cut into my time? This is cut in. It's called yes ending. Yeah, just keeping it in the air. The room, the room. When you get that role, how'd your life change? Well, it didn't change the way I thought. I thought like, you know, the movie premieres, and then when I walk down the street, everyone's gonna get out of my way.

Yeah. But the amount of people that actually go to see a movie is not an actual, you can't even compute it with the human race, it's so small. But then when it came, then I forget about it, and then it came out on DVD, I went back to Manhattan, and I remember coming out of the subway, and people going, Bob Sugar, show me the money!

I was like, oh, way more people watch DVDs than actually go to the movies. I remember seeing, I remember seeing the movie in Times Square, it's always fun to like I remember seeing the movie in Times Square. It's always fun to like watch your own movie in the theater and just see people's reactions. So it was me and Matt Frost again, my agent Frosty the show man, I love you buddy.

He, we're sitting in the theater. There's a gay couple in front of us and four black guys behind us. And Eric Stoltz and Cameron Crowe have this deal that Eric Stoltz will be a cameo in every Cameron Crowe movie in perpetuity. It's just their thing. So at Jerry Maguire's bachelor party,

Eric Stoltz does the toast. And the one gay guy in front of us looks at his lover, husband and goes, is that Eric Stoltz? And the guy, the guy goes like this. No. They've been arguing about Eric Stoltz all day, but it was. It was Eric Stoltz.

He goes, is that Eric Stoltz? He goes, no. Like I'm so tired of talking about Eric Stoltz. So they must have known Aaron Stoltz. I don't know what the fuck was going on, but then there's like a half hour where I'm not in the movie and then when I come back on screen from behind us here, oh, here comes this motherfucker, guy smiley again.

Guy smiley. Here comes this motherfucker again. Oh shit. How long did it take to do that movie? I think it opened, to answer your question, through two months, it opened the door, when I went into other auditions, it was, oh, that's the guy from the thing.

Yeah, so you have a little more currency in when you audition or when you're, if you get offered, like I got offered go, there's other movies you kind of get offered because they're like, okay, we got that guy. And you realize, oh, I'm a part of this process of making a movie. Like my name has some value where if I'm attached

a little money, you know, it's it's you know, the movie can get made You know, I've never been the guy like J Moore like let's make the movie. It's J Moore I've never been that guy. Yeah, but you know for the lower budget like go and suicide Kings was a was a big one Now, how was that set? So I just I just did a movie my first movie as well and I and I was really nervous getting into it and but then when I was on the set with the other actors and the director, I felt a comfort. Yeah.

How was that set? Was the set like? Oh yeah, I mean Cameron Crowe is like the nicest, he's young, I'm not saying grandfather like he's old, but like that fatherly, like everything's fine, we're going fishing, relax, I'll have them on my dinner, it's okay. Like he was that guy, and he would let you ad lib,

he'd say, do it as written, and then we're gonna have fun, like third or fourth take, we're gonna have a good time. And I'm like, okay. And Tom Cruise was just the coolest guy in the world. Like he's the best. And I didn't realize this, Jerry O'Connell was just on my podcast, and he goes, you don't remember this at rehearsal?

We were at the Sony lot, and Tom Cruise had his own chef, and you're like, what's going on here? And apparently I went up to Tom like, what's going on, Mr. O'Hall, fancy pants. We got to eat Panda Express. And Tom Cruise's chef from that day forward always made Tom and me lunch. But I have no memory of this.

But Jerry's like, no, you blew my mind, and you would go in his trailer and get like exercise equipment. I'm like, no, I remember going into his trailer to get a jump rope, but I did ask permission to go. He goes, no, you went in there all the time. I'm like, Jerry, I'm not crazy. But I do know Nicole Kidman was in there too,

so I'm not stupid. But I do know Nicole Kidman was in there too, so I'm not stupid either. Rrrr, hey now. Oh, Kidman. Days of Thunder Kidman, woo. She's a beauty. A little Sugar Packets. No pun intended? None.

Yeah, so it was a good set. It was a fun set and it was very, there was work to be done, but there was a lot of money to shoot. It wasn't like an independent where you shoot like 15 pages in a day. We gotta go, we gotta go. It was, we had the luxury of Sony,

the machine of Sony behind us. Did you, when you're around Tom Cruise and you said he knew his lines when you were auditioning, did you see a sense of professionalism that you're like, holy fuck, that's why he's Tom Cruise. Yes, if he was so nice to each person and knew everyone's names, like when I came in and said hi to everybody, like that's kind of him.

Like what I learned from him. And I remember once, we were in a van going to set, and the wardrobe lady looks at me and goes, you know, you can hang up your clothes at the end of the day. And I was a dick. I go, why I don't work in wardrobe. And then they closed the van door and Tom's in the front seat.

He turns around and he goes, you know, these girls, they busted our ass. They're here way before we are. And I was like, ee. So like ever since then, my shit's on a hanger, socks folded up, putting the shoes, like he's right. And you realize acting is just a department. Like, there's this massive, it's like the Death Star,

and there's all these departments. Like, just be the least of everyone's problems in your department. Everyone's part of the team. Everyone's part of the team. Everyone's got a role. Tom was a really great guy, and I'm very lucky that was my first movie, because I learned how to act

on a set from watching him beat, but I'm a comedian, like I break balls a lot and I can get out of hand back in the day for sure, not anymore. But Tom, being like a nice guy was like, yeah, I want to be like that. Like he was cool, man. Yeah. There's so, like I always like asking those questions

about those certain types of people because people think that like, people like Tom Cruise or Tom Brady, they luck into this shit. No, these people fucking work for this shit. They're at this spot for a reason. If Tom Cruise pumped gas in Minot, North Dakota, he would have still been come Tom Cruise.

You cannot cap whatever that thing he has. It's, you cannot deny it. It's an irresistible force and a movable, it's a supernova of whoa, they would have found him. That's good for people to know. That shit, you know, dreams without actions are just fucking dreams. Put that on a goddamn t-shirt, that's what Frank people to know. That shit, you know, dreams without actions are just fucking dreams. Put that on a goddamn t-shirt,

that's what Frank used to tell me. My dad used to race cars in the same like local tracks that Tom Cruise did, and my dad goes, hey, why don't you ask your buddy Tom Cruise what gear is he in in Watkins Glen Raceway, because he's the only guy that never crashes into the bails of hay on turn one. I'm like, all right.

So we're on set at Sony and I asked Tom, and Tom's like, you know. I think I was in first gear. And I'm like, all right. Six weeks go by. We're filming at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe. I'm standing, it's three in the morning, I'm throwing a football with the guy

that plays my quarterback, and Tom Cruise comes running out of the tunnel, and then there's very few guys that run like Tom Cruise. It's him and Leo. I knew exactly what you were talking about. Him and Leo DiCaprio are the two greatest film runners of all time, and he's just running right at me. He's like, JJ, JJ!

I go, what, what, hey, what's going on? I catch, I go, what's going on? He goes, what gear was your dad in? Six weeks later. Like that's the level of awesomeness you're talking about. Like he was in his trailer and went, I never asked him, I never asked him to fall. And he ran onto set and asked me that

in front of 10,000 extras. You know what I told him? Get away from me, Tom, you're bothering me. I ran onto set and asked me that. In front of 10,000 extras. Yeah, that's incredible. You know what I told them? Get away from me, Tom, you're bothering me. Oh my God. Fucking extraordinary people are extraordinary. Nah, I'm not putting that on a t-shirt, that was whack. That was kind of, I tried.

In this year, NBA champions, we're the Chicago Bulls, MVP, Michael Jordan. What a shock. What a shocker. Mario Lemieux. You guys are the Bulls. It's like, you can be as great as you want,

but you gotta go against the Patriots and they're gonna take your heart and soul. Yeah. Unless your name's Eli Manning. Unless you're- He's the only guy that cracked the code. Twice. Worst call ever, Joe Buck in that Super Bowl.

Manning, still on his feet, throws, Tyree caught. Thanks, Joe. That's the greatest catch in Super Bowl history. Manning, still on his feet, throws, Tyree caught. Was it like that? Yes. I don't remember it. He did a good job with your catch.

That was a good call. That's incredible. He did an incredible? Yeah. Oh, buck. Were you in New York in the 90s? Yeah. How was New York in the mid 90s?

Oh, it was great. It was good because it got kind of safe. It wasn't like that 70s Serpico like yikes, but it was still a little edge. A little edge. And I was like Lower East Side, which was yikes. But then by this time, this is after Saturday Night Live. So I had like a building with a doorman

and it was good living. It was good living. This was a good time to be in New York. Great time for standup. This was like still a big boon. Everybody was getting specials. Everybody was good living. It was good living. This was a good time to be in New York. Great time for standup. This was like still a big boon. Everybody was getting specials, everybody was getting work, and there was so many different ways to make it in standup. You could be a guy on the road making 200,000 a year.

You could do commercials, you could get a sitcom, you could work in MTV. MTV was popping. Yeah. I swear a lot of comics were going. Yeah, probably the cool comics. Because they would do all like the movie shit who? Polly Shore. Yeah

Sweet guy Stewart. I was so jealous of him when I was that like around this time. Yeah, what the fuck? Two million for Encino, man. I'm out here breaking my back in this acting game. This guy stinks and then it's like Like Polly's the best. It just shows you what an asshole I could have been. Hey. My manager used to always ask me one important question. Would you trade places with him? No.

There you go. Jackie, let's jump into the game. Should we get into these mariners? Get into these mariners. Look at this fucking lineup. These guys were shot. 140 RBI's, 138 RBI's 138 RBI's 123 RBI's 103 RBI. That is not the home runs.

A-Rod J. Buhner, Ken Griffey Jr. You got the big unit, Randy Johnson. Did I just take his job? No, no, I do whatever you want. Helping me out. I love it. I mean, this was his staff team. Look at how, this is why you don't win a World Series.

Like in football, you got to have the quarterback. Best pitcher on the team, Sterling Hitchcock. Five ERA. That ain't going to do it. No. I mean, that was kind of the story of this team. Led the MLB in runs, RBIs, doubles, but League Wars, DRA, 5.21. Rainey Johnson was hurt too.

That's going to get you. Yeah, that bulging disc in his backRA 5.2. Rainey Johnson was hurt too. Yeah, that bulging disc in his back this year. Tough. That's when the unit was fucking Chris Basio. He was a real junk baller. This was before he was killing doves, man. Oh my God. Oh, I can't believe he's in line up.

Chris Basio was like a junk baller or a thumber they'd call him. Basio. David Ortiz went to Minnesota. They had David Ortiz also. This was a young David Ortiz. Back then he was named David Aria is how he was credited. Really?

Yes, they didn't quite know the Dominican naming conventions, I think, and they had him labeled as David Aria. Hard-hitting Mark Whitten off the bench? What a, I mean, this was a fun mariner. This is fun baseball. It was a fun team. You know who was like this was the Indians had this kind of setup too,

where there was just bats for days, and then the pitchers were like, wah too, where there was just bats for days and then the pictures were like, tommy and stuff. Manny, was that the tommy Cleveland days? Yeah, and Manny and the best infield I ever saw in my life was Robbie Alomar and Omar Vizcal. We'll be right back after this quick break. In 2012, 16-year-old Brian Herrera was gunned down in broad daylight on his way to do homework. No suspects, no witnesses, no justice.

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Did King Griffey Jr. have the coolest looking swing? There's no better swing than Ken Griffey Jr. ever. I was always the kid because I was- I'll die on this hill. I was always a kid that would argue it. For what? What do you got? Barry Bonds. I loved Barry's.

I know you're a Barry guy. Short compact, that thing was fucking deadly. Ken Griffey Jr. didn't dress like a- That thing was deadly. It was, but he didn't dress like a fucking storm trooper like your asshole. Hey. He went out there like a fucking storm trooper like your asshole. Hey. He went out there like a man with a batting helmet. Backwards, in a cap backwards.

Against RJ. Some would say that's someone who is a pioneer. Look at everyone now. Everyone's a storm trooper now. How about the owner of Seattle, Hiroshi Yamauchi? Was that the Atari guy? He was a Nintendo guy. Nintendo, yeah.

That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. That's a pool. Oh my God. I didn't know Lee Ilya was one of the coaches of the Mariners, the greatest meltdown of all time. I never, I don't know that one. You might want to pull it up now.

Let me do. It'll be worth it. Lee Ilya, he got fired the next day. Is that the one where he did in the miners? No, he was managing the Cubs. And he goes, these people come out here and fucking boo my fucking ass tell them to get fucking jobs It's a playground for those country cocksuckers. I got guys busting their ass and these motherfuckers boo my fucking ass He did that

Right interview right afterwards got fired the next day today be promoted. Wait. There's no video but the audio. That's all you need Just to stuff it up them three thousand fucking people that show up every fucking day because if they're the real Chicago fucking fans they can kiss my fucking ass right downtown and print it they're really really behind you around here my fucking ass Like a fuck am I supposed to do go out there and let my fucking players get destroyed every day and be quiet about it For the fucking nickel-dime people to show up the motherfuckers don't even work. That's why they're out at the fucking game They're gonna go out and get a fucking job and find out what it's like to go out there in a fucking living 85% of the fucking world's working. The other 15 come out here.

The fucking playground for the cocksuckers. RIP them motherfuckers. RIP them cocksuckers like the fucking players. Oh my God. Best. Got guys fucking their fucking ass and them fucking people too. And that's because their fucking ass and them fucking people too. And that's because my fucking ass

That is He's coaching baseball by the way, just still but at the end of that rant. He says something that's incredible He goes there's a hundred and forty fucking games left He's right like bro We're we're 22 games in relax. Oh my God, that's such a fucking grind. There's 140 fucking games left. I just got PTSD from Coach B. No, just from hearing 140, like baseball, I remember playing like 50 games in the summer,

like double headers as a like 14 year old. There's so, you have to have such crazy competitive stamina to play baseball. Basketball I think is worse, like basketball. Same, but you gotta get up for that. So you have to have such crazy competitive stamina to play baseball. Basketball, I think, is worse. Like basketball. Same, but you got to get up for that. Basketball started at Halloween, and we're still going.

It's fucking late June. I know. But basketball, like, you're at least moving. Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. Like the competitive stamina to pay attention. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. Like, can you imagine getting up when you're like, your team's fucking 80 and whatever.

And you got sitting on a bench for three hours because it's your day off. Fucking lighting each other on fire in the dugout. Fucking doing the stupidest shit. It's crazy that I have such respect for their competitive soul. Here's the team, right? Bernie Williams.

Let's get in these Yankees. Let's get in these bronze bombers. Bernie Williams is as good as you can be without getting into the Hall of Fame. That's the high water mark for no Hall of Fame. Bernie Williams is good. He was perfect. He's the perfect player.

He's got pop, he steals bases, 305 av. Unbelievable. I don't have time to say average, I'm a busy man. He had a lot of sneaky, great home runs. Didn't he have like a couple game winners? Oh yes. Switch hitter. Just like you. Big time.

Where did Jeter get 10 bombs from? That's the weird part. Look at fucking Pettit, 21 and eight. Oof. Crafty lefty. Who else? Was Clements on this? You said?

Not yet. He came in 99, but I mean still a heck of a roster we're looking at here. I mean. Nomar Garcia-Para told me a story when Larritz was on the Red Sox. heck of a roster we're looking at here. Nomar Garcia-Para told me a story when Larritz was on the Red Sox. You're like, how come Larritz can't stick with a team? He goes, well, we were playing in Anaheim

and Grady Little took him out because they were bringing in Troy Percival. And Jim Larritz, instead of coming out of the game, stood in the on-deck circle and goes, ever heard of Mark fucking Wallers? Yelled at his manager from the on deck circle. So maybe that's why he didn't stick with the team, he was kind of a jerk.

They just got the softs, just got rid of Danvers. Raffy L. Devers, bro. Devers. Graham Lloyd was a lefty submarine pitcher from Australia. Oi, you think he played a little bit of that cricket, mate? I can't stand the way those people talk. Learn to speak English if you're gonna come to my country. Everything they say sounds like a question.

Everything's either over there or over here. That's a good accent. Why don't you stick your face in the clown's vagina? You're like, what did that guy just say to me? Is there a lot of Australian pitchers? No, a couple. Do they play cricket? Don't they play cricket out there?

Because it's an English country? Yeah. I guess. I don't know. Australia, I think their sport is drinking. That and rugby. Fighting kangaroos. Australian for beer.

It's not even really Australian I heard. Really? It's like a Haagen-Dazs situation? Yeah, fucking Haagen-Dazs. But this was, we mentioned it earlier, this was Joe Toy's first season as manager, took over for Bucs, Joe Walter, and I mean, big time turnaround here for the Yankees,

about to start the dynasty, if you remember, like, I mean, they lost 90 plus games in 1990, so big turnaround, Don Maddly retired the year before, Tino Martinez came in, had big shoes to fill there, but he became a Yankee legend. From Seattle, yeah. From Seattle legend. Yeah, I just See at this time my life. I was on the West Coast and We everyone just hated the Yankees because they always like this is when I started really remembering sports

kind of 96 and we didn't really get to watch them because they were on so early and then And we didn't really get to watch them because they were on so early. And then you just started seeing them after this, just start winning championship after championship or World Series after World Series. This is like, what does this air to you? I'm so happy just reading these names. This was like some of the best times of my life. I just love this team so much.

I remember going to spring training game. I was on the road, we were in Tampa and every guy comes out of the dugout of my life. I just love this team so much. I remember going to a spring training game. I was on the road, we were in Tampa, and every guy comes out of the dugout, and you're like, hey, hey, Gida, hey, Gida. Because he was a kid, I think he was a rookie. This was rookie year, pre-gift baskets. First Yankee to hit 3,000 hits, ever, ever. Because they all fought in wars before that DiMaggio mantle.

We were like, hey, Gida, hey, hey Gita, hey fucking Tino, Tino. And I remember Bernie Williams comes out of the dugout and it was like, it's like when you see a deer in the woods, you're like, he was like this magical, it's like, oh, there's don't heckle Bernie. He's like the captain. It's like the unwritten rule, like don't, Bernie's different, leave him alone.

Yeah, Paul O'Neil was a red ass. I remember I was sitting at a Yankee game and he's kept, he struck out twice and there was old ladies in the very, I'm in like the fifth row, in the very first row, five like blue hair old ladies and they had Paul O'Neill shirts, Paul O'Neill hats, Paul O'Neill signs and he strikes out, he goes to the outfield, the inning's over,

he's jogging back in and the one lady goes, we still love you Paul. He goes, well that doesn't fucking help me does it? I'm like wow this guy. I guess there's one on every team. Who was that guy in the Patriots? Who's the red ass? Probably me Yeah, you think so I Was very serious when it came to football time. Yeah, I Didn't engage with the other team before the game. I didn't talk to

Fans or anything before a game. We were there for a fucking job Why I'll lead league was Andy Pettit wasn't even in the running for so young but he led the league and wins That's insane. This was this was when Mariano Rivera wasn't even the closer He was a setup guy this year John wetland was the closer and Mariano pitched the eighth inning John and John wetland He was kind of a red- year. John Wetland was the closer, and Mariano pitched the eighth inning. John, John Wetland, he was kind of a red ass too. He would rollerblade around Yankee Stadium pregame. So Nomar was like a good friend of mine. So like you go to the game super early to see Nomar,

and he'd be like, get out of the fucking way! As he was coming, he'd be like, you know, had his warmup rollerblade. Yeah, he would just get his legs fired up. He won World Series MVP this year. Is there like a annoying, arrogant, like celebrity Yankees group chat? I don't know, of course there is.

There's an annoying Jets group chat. Are you in it? I was. This is why I don't engage online anymore. I'm on jetsinsider.com, free plug, you pricks. I made the mistake of going on as myself, ego, ego, like I'll have some throw around, I'll have some weight around it, it's J. Moore,

I'm with the people. And I argued with this guy on this message board for a year and a half, two years, Jules. It got personal. And his avatar, his photo was of Jimmy Page just playing guitar, and he's like, fuck you, you suck, you're a bum, you're no good at, and me and this guy went back and forth.

No discussion could have gotten, every single online discussion got sidetracked into us fighting, and then one day he changed his photo to his prom photo. I was arguing with a 16 year old. He was 16? Yeah, it was his actual prom photo. Oh, I thought it was like a throwback prom.

No, no. It was just some fucking kid. And you know what? I'll tell you straight up, he won. Yeah, you win, buddy. Respect, Meglomaniac. That was his answer. I remember his name. He's still in my fucking head rent-free Megalomaniac from Jets insider comm you got me next question. You know what it reminds me of when I got into a

heated argument with a nine-year-old in fortnight My son could have been my son plays for tonight with Was it my son? Could have been. My son plays Fortnite with Puka Nakua. Yeah, Puk's a gamer. You see Puka at a Lakers game, he's like, yeah, give me your, give me your,

are you on Instagram? Okay, my youngest son, Mackie, on TikTok and on Instagram, Mackie is the goat, but he misspelled goat. So my son is Mackkey as the gayot. What, how did he spell it? G-A-O-T.

Well goat probably was taken. You're giving him way too much credit. I mean, he doesn't try to get a handle these days. Jules, he doesn't dry his feet. Did I mention that? He's a young buck. I go, bro, you put gayot and he goes, I'm trying to get his back dog.

He's one of the coolest kids you'll ever meet in your life. I've started book. He said to me, you should get Dave Blunt's on your podcast. He's this rapper, he's like 600 pounds. And he's like that streamer type famous. I have no idea. That's huge. And I reach out and the guy reaches back to me like,

okay, let's do the podcast. My son thinks I'm a God because this guy reached back to me and he goes, I can't believe he talked to you. I'm like, you know, your dad's been a G for a while. So then, so now I got interviewed, it's today, 430. I got to, I'm like, now I got to learn. So like for the last three days, I've just been listening to streaming hip hop.

Can't put down the cup, can't put down the cup. I love Promethazine. Can't put down the cup, can't put down the cup. I love Promethazine. Can't put down the cup. Just got out the hospital, fighting for my life. I'm all about Dave Blunt's son. He had to cancel his tour, he had a heart cardiac arrest. He goes on stage with oxygen on his face. He's a big boy.

Did you, do you watch, have watch even watching Twitch for this? I Just hit YouTube. I'm still old, but I did my homework Dude, twitch is actually as stupid as it sounds I don't know what people is Well, it's it's you're watching people play video game. Oh my son does that all the time is dumb as it sounds It's pretty fucking entertaining. Can you talk? Can you talk shit to him? Yeah, they can type to you and he can interact with people watching him But he all you're doing is watching his screen him play video games while he's Commentating and there's like a picture of him as well

It is like the craziest concept to think why this would ever succeed works though, but it's I watch this doctor disrespect guy He's fucking with respect Steve, suspended seven times for cocaine? Hey. Doesn't make him a bad person. Doesn't make him a bad person. I believe Ricky Bonas came from Seattle too. Oh no, Mulan Brewery. How are you boys with Nomar?

We met at the All-Star Game at Jacobs Field when they opened Jacobs Field, and he was a rookie and nobody knew who he was, and me and Frosty were like, whoa, No-Mar. So he just was appreciative, I think, that somebody was talking to him and his dad, Ramon. No-Mar is Ramon backwards. And we just hung out all weekend and became boys.

And then we saw him, then he became No-Mar, the guy. But you're a Yankees guy. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I remember once we went to the Yankee Stadium to watch him play Red Sox Yankees, and then we waited for him. We took a town car back to his hotel, and then I believe it was Park Avenue, one in the morning,

we were playing catch on the street. Not on the sidewalk, we were on the yellow, because there was no cars, it was like a Wednesday night. Just like from 23rd Street to 24th Street, just throwing bombs under the streetlights. I'm like, this is ridiculous. That's so cool. That's fun.

He's a real dude, man. He's a great, great guy. Now, he's kids with me and him, right? Yep. Are they going to be like, are they playing sports? I haven't talked to him in a while. Every once in a while, his dad, mom, or his sisters will reach out to me, but if I saw him, we'd be good.

Legend, bro. Let's do a word association with guys. I'm going to say a name, you give me a word. Oh, Pat Kelly by the way, the second baseman. Waited outside, I was a grown man, like in my 20s, wait outside Anaheim Stadium for somebody to show up and Pat Kelly rolls up for the Yankees Anaheim and I go, Pat, can I get your autograph?

He goes, you don't know who the fuck I am. I go, Pat Kelly, number 14. He goes, you don't know who the fuck I am. I go, Pat Kelly, number 14. He goes, fine. You're valid. Fucking putz. Fuck you, Pat Kelly. All right, let's start it out with Pat Kelly. Word association, Pat Kelly.

Grindr. Wade Boggs. Chicken Man. Derek Jeter. Greatest of all time. Doc Gooden. First word? Cocaine. That's what popped into my head. Mariano Rivera.

Closer. Tino Martinez. Lefty. These are, my answers are lame. So you don't want the first thing that pops into my head. No, that's fine. I like these. Joe Giardi.

Joe Giardi? Giardi. Joe Giardi was like, he was the manager on the field. And then he became the manager off the field too. Manager. Yeah. Yeah. I like these. Joe Giardi. Joe Giardi? Giardi. Joe Giardi was like, he was the manager on the field and then he became the manager off the field too.

Manager. Yeah, Jorge Posada, number 20. What about the Rocket? The whole thing with him and Piazza turned me off to him. He was obviously headhunting and throwing bats at him and shit. I'm like, this guy's a dick. Like Mike's just like a good fun loving guy.

He had a press conference. First of all, I'm not gay. Like that guy had a press conference to tell the United States of America he's not gay. Like that's, that's basically like. I forgot about that. So many of you bitches out there want to get down. It's very 90s. You know where I work. Just let me get this out there want to get down. It's very 90s.

You know where I work. Just let me get this out there. That's the original Thirst Trap. Get on, yeah. The original Thirst Trap. It just basically went on TV. It was on like Sports Center. Julie Edelman, just want everybody to know I'm not gay.

And there's work to be done. Job's not finished. To quote the great Kobe Bryant, job's not done. Uh, oh my God. Yeah, the whole thing with Rocket and Piazza turned me off. How was the old Yankee Stadium? Awesome.

Compared to the new one? I've never been, I swear. Here's why. I've only been to the new one. Here's why I don't root for the Yankees anymore. I remember being in Yankee Stadium this era, and there was talk they were going to tear it down and build a new one. Here's why I don't root for the Yankees anymore. I remember being in Yankee Stadium this era and there was talk they were going to tear it down and build a new one next door.

And I said, if they ever tear this, this house that Ruth built, where Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris batted back to back during Roger Maris' night home, come on. If they ever tear this down, I will never root for this team again. They tear Yankee Stadium down, go fuck yourselves. But then Don Manningley and Joe Torre fly to LA

and they coach the Dodgers, so I'm like, this works out great. They came right to my backyard. So you became Dodgers fan. Yeah, but it's Dodger, I think it would take as much time for me living in LA to go to Yankee Stadium as Dodger Stadium. Holy shit.

Yesterday, oh my God. You know what you should be? You should be a Raiders fan. Who isn't? Because. Are you a Raiders fan? I mean I love Al Davis. There's three kinds of people I was told. There's people that played for the silver and black, people that used to play for the silver and black, and people that wish they played for the silver and black. The greatest logo of all time, the Raiders. The guy's got an an eye patch on but if you look the good eyes closed Yeah

He's got his good eye closed. You wonder why they suck for so long Well, you know that Al Davis when he was designing those teams because he's from Brooklyn He said he wanted to make those teams as if the there was the Yankees and Dodgers combined because he wanted the strength the power and Dodgers combined because he wanted the strength the power and the the grandness of the Yankees and the Athleticism and the style of the Brooklyn Dodgers that was his main goal and the clotheslines of the longest yard and that too Well, I you gotta love the Raiders man I love remember going to Raider games at the Coliseum and it was a fucking hurt I don't want to throw up fake gang signals and get punched out. It was an absolute players ball, dude.

You took your life in your hands. It was amazing. Played there. Really? Yeah. I played in my pit. My mom wore my Jersey there. Come on, Julie.

Angie's brave. Angie's crazy. Could you hear her yelling from the stands? No, they put them in the nosebleeds when you're. I remember in wrestling in high school, there was this kid, Arlen Cunningham. He's just a doughy white kid that wrestled heavyweight and he got destroyed all the time. And then his mom came to every match.

And then one day we're at the Nork Academy tournament in Nork, New Jersey, and he's got to wrestle the number one seed because he's like, oh, and whatever. And the other kid was a Cthulhu brother who they all got scholarships to wrestle at Penn State. And from the bleachers you hear, Run for the hills. Arlen. Run for the hills.

Better run for the hills. Jackie break down this game. All right. Let's get into this game. Leading up to it. Seattle comes into this thing, 20 and 18. They were good. The Yankees 22 and 14 coming off a series where they lost two out of three.

Chicago. We got to talk about Doc coming into this one, entered this thing with a 5.7 ERA one in three record, struggling a little out the gate here in New York. But you got to realize he hadn't really pitched in like two years leading up to this. He got the strike short in season in the 94, suspended in 95, and now with the Yankees first year.

I forgot he was suspended for cocaine in 95? Yeah, for the failed drug test. These guys love the way that shit smells. Yeah, those guys. Oh, man. Gerald Williams, wow! In for Bernie this game. Where were you sitting?

First base line, first seats under the awnings, so probably about 20 rows up, first base line. And who you with? My friend Milton Lage. He used to direct- Milton, he brought you, right? He used to direct Club MTV. Cool. Wow. And he directed with? My friend Milton Lage. He used to direct. He brought you, right? He used to direct club MTV. Cool. Wow. And he directed me on MTV's Lip Service,

the lip sync game, game show. You know the difference between Gerald Williams and Bernie Williams? Gerald Williams retired with a lot of potential. Bernie Williams never had it. Wise. Well said. A lot of potential in that Gerald Williams.

That's a terrible word for an athlete. Yep. Well said. A lot of potential in that Gerald Williams. That's a terrible word for an athlete. Yep. Comic too. Mmm. A lot of things, probably like everything. Do you have a superstition when you're at a game? Or when you're watching a game? Especially a no-hitter. No. Do you wear a jersey? What are you wearing in the game? A hat?

Are you wearing? I mean it was the 90s, probably some parachute pants and like a Who Farted t-shirt. Which I. Drip, drip. Opium Anthony t-shirt. I've never worn a New York Yankees hat, but I will argue that it is one of the most visually

pleasing looking hats. It sure is. I got in and I hate the Dodgers, but I think that they have also a really cool hat. Was this in May? This was in May, May 14th, yes. Nice little nippy night. Wind blowing right till, yeah.

Yeah. And we get some fireworks early in this one with Doc walking Darren Bragg to start the game. Then you got the long line out. A-Rod lines out to center, Gerald wins. One of the best catches you'll ever see. Throws his glove up over his head, snags that thing, throws it back into the infield for a double play. And we're out of the

first. That was a crazy play insane sequence. I was like a Willie Mays catch at a high point. And then you get that double play out of it. Insane. And then we're rolling from there. You get to the six, the Yankees get to on or knocking two runs up to nothing. That would be that would be it for the scoring department in this game. How about six walks? Yes six walks. It was very imperfect no hitter. This was not a perfect game. He had a guy on after that big hit in that first. But he walked. It was scary I mean. No I'm saying Doc walks five. That's what I mean. Yeah. Martinez had some had some deep shots to center that Williams was snagging again.

This is the most unlikely lineup to no-no. It's insane. I'm so happy just looking at these names. Wild 134 pitch outing. Cole O'Neill batting third was never a good idea. Like, what are we doing? And where's Jeter? Ninth?

One thing about Joe Torre, he didn't get locked in. He learned. Like Jeter went to lead off pretty quickly. Wade Boggs, this is the kookiest fucking lineup. Wade Boggs batting lead off. This is wild. The whole thing is just wild. What's a moment that sticks out to you with this game, Jay?

I remember, I remember A-Rod coming up to hit late. I believe it was the ninth inning. I remember A-Rod coming up to hit late. I believe it was the ninth inning. The last batters he faced was that part of the order. And I remember A-Rod coming up to bat and it was very stressful, but then you go, well wait a minute, if he gets A-Rod out, he's got Junior, and then if he gets Junior out, he's got Edgar, and then if he gets Edgar out,

he's got fucking Jay Buhner and Pulsar Red. Like it was like the craziest level of a video game ever. That is insane. Murderers Row. It was crazy. I don't fucking Rich Armorall get out of the box or you pinch runner. You remember the final out? I don't. The pop-up to your boy. Pulsar into. He must have hit it a hundred feet in the air. Jeter had the pop out to shortstop. Incredible. How about there's a guy on third when he's celebrating.

It's incredible. I mean, the last... There was always runners on... It was so weird. The last inning was like, I like Cardiac Arrest City over here is like, walks a-ride. Then you get the ground out to first from Griffey where, where Paulinella's litter or Tina Martinez literally dives to first to touch, to get him out. Like diving.

I remember Griffey had like a horrible, it was like a very weird Griffey game. Like it was just garbage. It was very weird. And then you get, then you get a wild pitch. So you got, or another walk in a wild pitch. So you got runners on second and third, one out. It's like.

And he threw like 140 pitches. Insane. Nowadays they just let them out there. They're just like, four years old. It's like, he does cocaine, he'll be all right. Hey, you want to cook that coke? You're going back out. You want to warm it?

Let me warm it up for you. Hey, Doc. I'm from Boston now. Let me warm it up for you, Doc. You got to go back out there, free base it. I remember Jim Abbott's snow hitter was on 4th of July. It was the first one since then. 1993, the 4th of July.

A-Rod won the Ale Batting Crown, first shortstop to win it in 56 years. New York, quick Yankees. Bo on that game. 2-0, no hitter, seven hits for the Yankees, five strikeouts, six walks for Doc. The only no hitter, seven hits for the Yankees, five strikeouts, six walks for Doc. The only no hitter of his career. He'd had a one hitter before this.

The Cubs back in the 80s, but I mean just an all time legacy game. It's amazing he never had no hitters with the Mets. He was, people don't, people sleep on Doc. He was a monster. Oh my gosh. We were watching the highlights of him. It was amazing.

And when he was a Met, he was, but then he had a lot of troubles, I think. He was getting... Yeah, him and Strawberry kept writing each other out. Like, I don't do Coke, Strawberry does Coke. Strawberry was on this Yankees team too. Strawberry was on this Yankees team too. Yeah.

He's crazy. There's some guys, they make the bat look like a wiffle ball bat. Strawberry was one, it just looked like a toothpick in his hands. Gary Sheffield made it look great. Oh, Sheffield. That's what I remember. Sheffield made it look great. What a great batting stance. It just looked like they were making in his hands Gary Sheffield made it look great

It just looked like they were making sawdust Sheffield may have the second best swing after Griffey, but he's a right is righty It's but it's so much effort any guy you say you see all the work involved when Griffey's just literally like Casting of like under the bushes He's casting for like trying to get some bath on his. Everything he does just looks smooth. Smooth. Now what's the legacy of this game, Jay?

Is this the... I think it's you never know when greatness is going to happen. You know, I was watching Reverend TD Jakes. This is going to sound like I'm making a joke, but I'm not. I know. Godless heathens. First TD Jakes reference in podcast. TD Jakes, you know, when David slayed Goliath in the Bible,

he wasn't in a battle with the giants. He made lunch to bring it to the other guys and he got caught up in it spur of the moment. And then he just was like, oh shit, I'm not prepared for battle. And he got a slingshot in Iraq and he killed Goliath. So it's kind of like this is your David where he just showed up and he just it's very it's very patriot way like do your fucking job show up prepare do this walk out there do this hit the cut off man

and then you just never know when magic's gonna to happen. And this was absolute magic. It was just a weeknight. Yeah, it's fucking cold out. First three innings, you're like, bro, it's freezing. And then all of a sudden, eee. And you're watching, how many Hall of Famers total? There were, I believe it was six. Let me double check here.

You got Wade Boggs, Tim Reigns, Derek DeRiomir, Joe Torre, four. Seven. Griffey, Johnson. Yep. Total. Oh My god now. I mean this is just a perfect little Perfect little day old Milton calls you over. No, hey, no, it's a good guy Hey Jay wants let's go make lunch for the Giants and then all of a sudden you guys just take out the rock and fucking knock The Giants out you go to the best baseball you guys just take out the rock and fucking knock the Giants out. You go to the best baseball game.

Fucking New York Yankees have had since 1993. I mean, Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah. Sometimes you just the key to life is showing up, right? When your boy calls you to go to the game, go. Let's grade the game. Let's see where it stands. You can't spell spiritual without ritual, gentlemen. I'm not looking over there. Facts, facts. I'm not looking over there.

Facts, facts. It's kind of true. Make your bed, do your laundry, fold the laundry. Just do those things every day. That's it, you want to get spiritual, do your things. I need to be ritual. We got to talk 98, 99, 2006 World Series in eight years. Like, it started the Yankees run, man.

This is the start. I mean, this is probably. Great time to be a Yankee fan. You know why Joe Torre left? Why? His contract was up and they put a bonus clause in that he would get more money if he won the World Series. And he was so insulted that,

like you think I'm going to manage differently? Like he wanted a, I'm making the numbers up, but I'll go low so you know I'm making it up. He wanted two million, they offered him one million, and they're like, how about one million and we'll give you two million if you win the World Series?

And he was like, you think I'm going to manage differently if there's an incentive to win the World Series? So they just couldn't come to terms with that. I wish I was as stern as Joe Torre in my contract. He did my sitcom, Gary Unmarried, and then as himself. And then Jimmy Burroughs, the director comes, he did every episode of everything, he goes,

what do you do? He's got his arm around me, he goes, what do you do if you got a real pain in the ass on your team pointing to me? And Joe Torre goes, well, how bad do you need him? He goes, oh, I need him. He goes, well, there you go. He goes, I had David Wells.

I couldn't stand that fucking guy. But I needed him. Every third game of the World Series, I put Boomer out there and he'd handle his business. So I put up with it. I'm like, yeah. Speaking of no hitters. Perfect, yeah.

Joe Torrey told me if David Wells and David Cohn's no, how about three no hitters under Joe Torrey? If David Wells and David Cohns were on opposite days, neither both would have gotten lit up because Cohn needed it hot for his ball to move and Boomer was fat and a drunk, he couldn't have pitched in the heat. So like if you flip flop their starts,

they probably don't make it out of the fourth inning. Crazy. You want to hear the best Joe Torre thing he ever told me? Yeah. He went to take David C Joe Torre thing he ever told me? Yeah. He went to take David Cohn off the mound in the World Series, and you always wonder what they say out there. And when he gets out there, David Cohn goes,

I feel good. He goes, then what the fuck am I doing out here? It's the greatest sports thing I've ever heard in my life. Like, what the fuck am I doing? I don't even feel so good. Oh man. The big thing was at the end of the game, we were guessing what the New York Post would say,

because you could always count on the New York Post to have like a cheeky pun. And I'm like, it's going to say, doctor, we all put like 20 bucks in a hat. There's two of Milton's friends were there too. And I guess Dr. No, and I nailed it. And so I also won 80 bucks. Dr. No. Dr. No. They don't miss, do they? The Dr. No game and I nailed it. So I also won 80 bucks. Dr. No.

They don't miss, do they? The Dr. No game. The post doesn't miss. We'll be right back after this quick break. In 2012, 16-year-old Brian Herrera was gunned down in broad daylight on his way to do homework. No suspects, no witnesses, no justice. The call was horrible.

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A doctor today keeps the hits away. It's like a doctor a day. I know, a doctor a day keeps the hits away. It's a bit of a reach. The doc good no hitter? It's doctor, it's doctor no. Doctor no, it's doctor no. It's doctor no.

But you know what? I appreciate the hustle boys. We appreciate them. I really do. I love the, I wish I could have a staff to work like this. Let's score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score.

You know what goes against it? Stakes, zero. Zero stakes. It's fucking May. Zero to 10. My fucking guy. Decimal's okay. Jake gives it a zero.

Wow, that might be our first zero in a long time. I mean, it's a professional game. I got to give it a. I'll give it a one. I'll give it a 1.8. What a 1.8 5.9 I'm going high I did a 2.1 all right star power there's fucking stars galore in this Ken 10 to fuck a lot of Hall of Famers a lot of Hall of Famers your Patriot teams which which you know I had front row seats too. Didn't have, you had Tom Brady, you're a G,

but bro, this is like, this is crazy. Yeah. Gita! Gita. I'm going to go 8.9. Actually, a 9.9. Oh, I went 8.9 as well. I got to go 9.

You're going 9, Jules? Yeah, I got to go 9. All right. There's fucking everyone, everyone on this team, both teams are good. It's not. Jack at 8.9, I had 9.1. Oh, it's keeping everyone everyone on this team both teams. It's not Keeping you from 10 9.1. There's no perfect. There's no perfect Maybe an all-star game gameplay this game

well, you know to 10 Gerald Williams I Was a smoke play the very beginning a game play. I mean it's mid, you know, you got the one great catch, but you got six walks. So you know six I'm gonna go with like a 7-1 Alright put me down for 7-2 7-1 you did 7 No, no keep me a 6. I had a 6.8. I had 6.1 Decimals you guys doctor know we got a score the name of the game. That's really good the name You can't beat the name so So score it. Oh, 10.

10? That's a great name. I'm going to go. He was also 40. Yeah, I'm going to go with the nine. Nine. Nine, nine? No, nine.

Just nine even. Nine. I had a seven, three. I had a 5.1. It's a good name. 6.11. It's our new 92nd game. it's just between 2014 NLDS game two Giants versus Nationals and just ahead of 2008 week three preseason game Texans versus Cowboys.

Thanks for showing up JJ. Oh my gosh. I mean it probably got the same amount of ratings as that preseason game. Yeah, yeah. Well, I know you got all of New York. That's our first no hitter in show history. That's our first no-no. I can't believe it's behind Dolph Ziegler. Kill the arena 60 point game?

No chill kill. You know what? I've been a list bully my whole life. I just have to accept the, this is great, yeah, let's see the top is the top Falcon's Pats Oh, wow Patriots Patriots Patriots, there's no bias here. Look at the Stanley Cups in there We're going on Isis fifth. Yeah, it's fucking high It's fucked. It's a great book. That's a great, that's a great game. Yeah, it should be higher.

Who are you talking about? It's top five. We're about to hit our hundredth game and we're going to reevaluate this list too. Cause there's some big discrepancies. Wide righter. What's the wheelchair game where he pooped his pants? Yeah, he says he didn't.

Technically didn't, he said. This is, I had such a good time. I was looking forward to this. This is awesome today. The Rock versus Mankind, let's go! He technically didn't, he said. I had such a good time, I was looking forward to it. This is awesome today. The Rock versus Mankind, let's go! Oh, we had it. Let's go!

We did that with O'Shea Jackson Jr. O'Shea Jackson. Yeah. How great was Randy Moss to roll with? Randy was awesome. He thought you were a coach? No, he thought Rich Ornberger was a coach. Oh, okay.

I didn't know who that is, so. He was a lineman. He was a Randy Moss. Drafted in the same time. You got any Randy Moss gems for me? He's such a country bumpkin. Yeah, he, it was funny. Every Saturday, Saturday you get to, it's travel day, so meetings started, like you

get to sleep in, meetingsings started like 839. And we'd always come in and we'd have a team meeting for like 35 minutes. Bill would go over his last keys and we break him to offense defense, have like a 30 minute offense defense. And then we'd have like 20 minutes individuals. So we're all broken up in receiver, running back, this, that.

Every Saturday, Randy would come in and he'd be sitting down he has do ragging his headphones on and a hood over and he'd be in the meeting early and he'd sit there and he'd be explaining to one of the younger receivers whoever it was it could be me it could be new it could be nuke it could be one of it could be Nuke, it could be one of the guys he'd be sitting talking about the 60 minutes from the night before, or not the 60 minutes, it was first date line, date line, date line,

you'd sit there, he'd be like, this motherfucker thought he could cut his dick off, and this bitch, I said no, he'd be just explaining the story like that, and then our coach would walk in, and he'd go on for a good, it'd be like a 20 minute meeting. He'd go on for like 12 minutes and the coach, it was his first year there. So Randy had more pool.

So he would like try to, hey, Randy, you think we could get into their DBs? He's like, wait up, wait up, Chattie, I got to, that's one more thing. So like every Saturday we heard what dateline was from that Friday. And it was just so, he was just a cool dude. Like he would bust my balls, cause I was a rookie.

I played with him two years or one and a half years. And you know, he wouldn't show me love in front of the boys, but when the boys weren't around, I used to have to go get the food for travel day. And I was a seventh round guy, so I didn't make any money. He'd always give me all the money and stuff, because usually the rookie has to pay for it. He'd look out.

He'd look out when people weren't looking, but he'd kind of big bro it he's in my goat discussion Oh, he's definitely a top. I'm with you there three two two top two him and Jerry Who else is up there for you Jay Wayne Cravet? We just had Keishon Johnson on the show There's fun. The Jets had like three years. They had that. Those were, we had real small smurfy guy. It was Lavernius Cole, Santana Moss, Wayne Corbett.

So Lavernius was the tallest at six foot. But they all blocked their dicks off. Yeah. They were nasty. Charlie Wise. Yeah. Get him in there. You better get that fucking force.

That safety's in there, go blow him up. Better get that four. Force. What? Force. don't hit that a gap? Gotta hit they gap come on block harder guys See, that's they keep scoring right there is when I learned What a good coach was

Because when I got to a good when I got to a team that had good coaches, I stopped hearing that you got a block harder It was hey you drop your right foot you put your right hand in his chest plate You get your like it was explaining the technique instead of explaining for effort So when you say Belichick had his final keys Yeah, did he give you things that were actually accessible and you could access mid-game? He would give us like, he would show like a 40 play cut up

of the team we're playing, of our play, and maybe trends around the league that were going on at that time. Look fellas, some guy took his helmet off the week before got a 15 yard penalty look like we don't need this fucking shit he would put the five penalties where guys got their helmet taken off and got a 15 yard flag like if you got a problem just get off the fucking feet like that's how he would do so like you knew in a fighting sit we can't touch a ref. You can't pull him off a pile

You can't pull your guy off the pile. That's 15 yards. Yeah, like it was a reminder cut up or like offense look We're gonna we need to be inside out and he's showing a play of Adama consume or something where he's blowing up and they're not chipping them We need to fucking you know, like little reminders. He would do stuff like that. Now, receivers.

Look, if we have a crew that's going to hold, these guys are going to hold you. OK, they hold. So don't bitch at the receiver or this do business as business is being done. OK, so you see how the refs calling early. We go on, we go and we go, go you know like he would give us those kind of reminders little things with the the protections or a coverage little things that he looked at overall on the whole team and then Each offensive and defensive coordinator would have their own keys when we break up and we do that same kind of thing

What's something like where it unfolded and like the Malcolm Butler interception? I understand like they went over Yeah, he would say shit like, look fellas. It's like what's something you experienced on game speed? You went, oh shit, I know exactly what to do here. Yeah, I remember one time, like he said, look fellas, there's gonna be an opportunity for us to run one back this game, they do not have good coverage. And like, he says, I'm just telling you if we get this

we will win the game and we we housed a kick because they were vulnerable we we were like I housed a punter something like it was like one of those things like there's he would always predict shit like look there's going to be a time in the game where we're going to need to stop and then we're going to do this which in if you think back on it, you're like, well, I mean, it's kind of like just common sense But like to break down complexity things that we've been studying all week to like, alright These are the four things we really need to work on like think about okay red area tighten down third down No easy play here Take care of the football.

We do those things. You guys already put the hay in the bank. We already prepared everything else to take care of itself. Greatest coach of all time? Yeah. Who can argue that? Jay, we missed anything on this game?

I don't think so. I can't tell you what a great time I had. That was, talk about memory lane. That, I got fired up watching that shit. This was a fun game. And I feel like baseball's coming back. And when you, I thought you were gonna come on and do a Jets game.

I was getting excited. I was like, why the fuck's he doing a Yankees game? But then when you told us the game, we started doing the research. So if I was gonna do a Jets game, I would have done Curtis Martin taking the lateral and then throwing the touchdown to Wayne Cravet on Monday night in Miami in the rain. And then Wayne just handing the ball to the ref.

Act like you've been there. Scrappy Jim Rath. Wayne would have been a great Patriot. He would have been. Well, I mean, that was kind of- He's like also a friend. I keep mentioning him because he's my friend. Well, you know that he played kind of Patriot football

with Parcell and all that shit. He said, Parcells, if you were a rookie, he was the most motivating coach in the world. On year four, you want to fucking strangle him. So when he got his new contract, every time he walked in a room, he'd stop and go, hey, it's the great Wayne Crabet, everybody. You know, he just got paid.

Every practice, oh, here comes the great Wayne Crabet. And he's like, what the fuck's wrong with this guy? Like, I'm in year six. Like why is he fucking with me? The more popular you got and the more money you made, sometimes in that coaching regime, they wanted to bring you down. Did Bill ever play like mind games with you?

No. What? We already been here for two hours. Oh, okay. That's all he did. I mean, those guys are like mastermind guys. They know how to get the best out of their guys. You're one of the best my wrestlers ever wrestled was we were at a tournament somewhere in,

I don't know, LA, so good. But I had a really young squad and I was at Palisades High and we were young, but we were going to put like two guys into States. And I go, man, fuck it. I'm just sitting there. You got to wait in the bleachers all day, like matching up with the guys. I was at Palisades High and we were young, but we were going to put like two guys into states. And I go, man, fuck it. I'm just sitting there,

you gotta wait in the bleachers all day, like match here, match there, two, eight in the morning, two in the afternoon. I go, guys, come here, if we roll up these mats and we just fucking throw hands, which school do you think's winning? And they're like, I think we would. I go, I'll fuck him up.

I pointed to the coach, I go, I'll fuck him up. Can you fuck him up? And it just got him thinking street fight. And they went out there and they were just like, bah, bah, bah, just mauled guys. I go, yeah, fuck these guys. And that's the best thing a coach can do is get his players up.

Now they all do it differently, but the best ones can get guys up. I loved coaching. I remember once we went to this, I was coaching Beverly Hills High. Ryan Faintitch was the head coach. We went to this tournament in called Fre Beverly Hills High, Ryan Faintitch was the head coach. We went to this tournament in, it's called Freak Show in Las Vegas, big deal.

We take buses out there and we all, they all take a shit. They're just deer in the lights. It's huge. It's like Karate Kid, final scene big. And we all fucking take a dump, stalling, getting called for stalling. So Monday, we're back in town.

Monday, we show up to the wrestling room, and Coach is standing there, the door to the wrestling room is locked, and he goes, what are you guys doing? Like, you're gonna unlock the door? He goes, why? So we can practice? He goes, well you guys showed you don't like to wrestle,

so we're gonna spend a week on the track. We go down on the track, but he brings all the free weights down to the track, and he had these guys running, holding free weights. He goes, you're gonna fucking beg me to wrestle. He had them doing lawn mowers when he grabbed the guy's feet, and the nurse came out and said, this is abuse, because their hands were bleeding

on the artificial turf. He goes, you can't have them do this on school property. He goes, fine, Pico Boulevard, the entire wrestling team doing wheel barrels up and down Pico Boulevard, the entire wrestling team doing wheel barrels up and down Pico Boulevard in Beverly Hills. He goes, and then by Wednesday, they were like, I watching it, I was like, this is really like bad. And he goes, and then finally one of the captains goes,

we're really gonna wrestle. It was these two twins, Chris and Art, I forget the rest, but they were twins and they came up to him and they're like, we're really going to wrestle. We'll make sure everybody wrestles. And they unlocked a wrestling room and it's like the rest of the year we just fucking housed everybody.

They got the fear of the track. Incredible. We used to have the old Coach Joe front run. What's that one? He'd run us. The first two weeks of Pop Warner, they would try to get kids to quit because you wanted a certain roster size for playing.

Because if you had like 32 guys, each guy had to play like six plays. But if you had like 36 guys, each guy had to play like five plays. So you play a less, so there was like a sweet mark. So they'd check, get all these kids to sign up in Pop Warner and they'd run us to death. Where was this? In Redwood City. and they run us to do it was this in Redwood City

They run us till we puked Spleet yours and you try to get kids to quit because you didn't want a roster size too big cuz every kid had to play Who's the guy on the Patriots that never got tired running? Never got tired for like fives for like a long time. It was me, Slate, Hogan. We were the rabbits, like in conditioning. They call it the rabbit. Ebner Ebner Ebs. He could run because he would go do the rugby shit. I had a good time, buddy. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone. Oh, we're still going. We're still going. I thought we'd go out and check out more stories podcast.

Apple, Spotify and YouTube. I have no dates coming up so you don't have to visit my site on Instagram. I'm jmore37. Follow me and let me know that Jules sent you my way so I can send you a nice gift basket Jeter style. Let's freaking go. Thanks, bro. Man, that was awesome. Jay's a beast. Love him. He knows ball.

He had a moment that we designed this show for when you just see a roster you haven't looked at in 20 years or thought about in 20 years and just all the names just bring all these memories. He was having that and I was very happy that he was having that experience here on Games with Names. That's what you gotta do, man.

If you, you know you're a real ball norv, you just pull up the Wikipedia, you see the roster and it like takes you back. It's like when you hear a song or you have a smell takes you back. Seeing a roster. He knows sport. He does. He knows ball. He knows his lineups and stuff like he you could tell he loved it. And he had deep cut stories about like, yeah, that was a fun.

The 20th guy on the roster. That was awesome. Ma'am, don't dictate the terms of your journey jay was poetic out there today he's got a couple t-shirt he has a t-shirt some some bumper stickers he was good he was spitting in the nut house well you know what time it is it's time for the chill zone brought to you by Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit CoorsLight.com slash GWN. Celebrate responsibly. I love that sound. Cheers boys. Mmm tastes so good when you hit your lips. So good when you hit your lips? Well what are we doing? Starting five. You want me to take us into this thing? Yeah, take us into this. This is another edition of Starting Five where Jules, Kyler, and myself build our

perfect Starting Five for any situation. It could be yard games. It could be movies. It could be you name it. We can build a Starting Five for any situation. And today it is movies and we're talking sports movies, in honor of Bob Sugar in one of the best sports movies of all time.

Bob Sugar? Bob Sugar, no man on this thing. I said Sugar. We're not searching for anybody here. This is Bob Sugar. He looked at me and said, just Sugar. Just Sugar. Yeah.

This ain't no searching for Sugarman. This is Bob Sugar. Hey, great movie, watch it. No spoilers, watch searching for Sugarman. One of the best portrayals of an agent all time right up there with Stevie Grant. I know everyone's gonna say, Aree Gold, you casuals, but the real heads know.

Who's Stevie Grant? Dude, Bob Odenkirk and Larry Sanders. Come on, bro. Very good, very good. I didn't watch that this decade. Today, we are building a starting five for the ultimate sports movies. Kyler will draft his five, Jules will draft his,

and I will draft mine. This is a snake draft. Kyler, you need to keep us on the tracks. Snake drafts confuse me. Me too. I am easily confused. We got a lot of heat in the comments for how little you guys understood snake draft.

I'm kidding. Every time I'm doing a snake draft, it's back and forth. I know, I have the scroller to help me when I'm doing. Every time I'm doing a snake draft, I have the... It's back and forth. I know, I have the scroller to help me when I'm doing it on my fantasy website. Here, I don't have the scroller. So if you pick first in one round, the next round you pick last, and it just goes back and forth. Nah, dude. It's a snake.

I'm calling bullshit. I know, though. That's why you got to keep us on the tracks, baby. Keep us on the tracks. So, who are we starting? Starting five sports movies. Jack's starting. Oh, I got to pick number one?

We're not going... You know, you're on the thing. Let's go. Do we get the worst one every time? Middle is great. Everyone loves middle. Do we get the worst one every time? Middle is great, everyone loves middle. Okay. And then no cheats, no pool.

Yeah, we got no pools here. Me and Jack, we got computers, we're not looking at the computers. Nope, straight from the dome. Straight off the dome. You will not see these fingers Googling a thing. Ready? With the number one pick in the draft,

I am choosing Bad News Bears, Walter Mathau. The old one? The old one, Walter Mathau. Kelly Leake, yes. Number one. Number one, great movie, all-timer. Okay. Red Stripe Beer.

Ooh, I got a couple. Coors Light. I'm gonna, this is one of my favorite. Remember the Titans? Yeah. Remember the Titans? It's on Thanksgiving. Sunshine. Thanks. I'm Sean shed a tear shed some tears. I'm gonna go with miracle Solid and I go again. So Kyler goes again. I'm gonna go with happy Gilmore Wow Good one. Yeah, you guys are so fucked again

Okay, your first pick was a Disney movie, bro. Bad News Bears is terrible. I'm going to different. I think it differs. Number 10 lot. So is this a lot of me? Yes. Great. Great. That is a good pick. Great pick. Suckers. You ready for this bad boy? Space Jam. Space Jam. The OG. First one. Come on Islam. If you want to jam. Are you okay? So Jack goes again? Oh, I love the snake draft. Um, I am going to go with Let's put Jerry Maguire in there. Let's put Jerry. He's good. Okay, let's put Jerry Maguire in there. Okay Jules

Water boy. Oh good one. I'm all-timer. You can do it. Oh No, we suck again. We're just talking about Henry Winkler. Yeah. Yes. So far, it's put in a bucket hat. I'm clicking hat. Tron up plays in his little notepad notebook. I'm going to go with Moneyball.

Solid, solid all time film. And I'm going to follow that up with Slapchat. Shout out Paul Newman. I like it. Oh for me program Underrated underrated Underrated

Number four. I'm going with the fighter baby the fighter Mickey Ward Dickie Eklund David O Russell The fighter was good fighters great Mark Wahlberg Mark Marky Mark. Oh again? Yes. Snake draft. I love the snake draft. Imagine a snake goes back and forth.

You gotta love the snake. How about this one? Let's hit the course baby. Let's go Teen Cup. Teen Cup. Yes. I mean Costner. He could be on a few.

Oh man. Gotta go Days of Thunder. Oh yeah. The NASCAR fun. Tom Cruise. I think that I go Days of Thunder. Oh, yeah, NASCAR. I can't not watch that movie. Hey, he hit me. No, Cole. He rubbed you And rubbing is racing John C. Reilly to NASCAR movies to NASCAR movies Interesting here I'm not gonna go to L. A. Nights here, But it could be interesting could be could be what else we got here

Hoosiers classic you got a lot. I'm not gonna go Hoosiers. All right Longest yard. Oh good. We're not gonna go which one would you go original the remakes Sandler really not bare? I think so just cuz I'm an era But I'm gonna go with caddyshack. Ah great pick Great good. It's good. I fucking roasted both of you guys again I'm gonna go with two golf movies in his top. Do you want to do it? I'm gonna go with six man of the year six man. All right, okay, then I go again Rudy's in there Although I heard Rudy was a prick

But I do I do like Vince Vaughn and John Favreau It's a great movie great movie. Yeah Yeah, but I heard he's an asshole. Hey, the story is good. Yeah, great story. Vince Vaughn was credited as Vincent Vaughn in that movie. Fun fact, if you read the credits, young, young man. I hadn't think past. I'm surprised no one said draft day yet. Draft day. Draft day. Well, it might be on the clock. The pick is in. I'm just going to go with Hoosiers because I can't think of anyone else. All right.

Got to go feel the dreams. Wow, if you build it, they will come. They will come. Have you watched that recently? Yeah, it's amazing. Like most of it is just like a road trip movie with fucking James Earl Jones. Yeah. It's a great movie. You know it's not they will come come it's he will come. Yeah, dad. Yeah, everyone the the

This is like guys just made it. Mm-hmm. It's like the real Mandela. It's like Luke. I am your father. He doesn't say that Luke, what does he say? He just says I am your father Mandela that Is it me? Oh, yeah me. Oh, Mandela effect. Is it me? I am your father. I think mine's like got a little bit of everything. I like yours, Jules. I like it.

You do Jack? You do Jack? You don't say. I got real action. I'm not, I'm not coming out attacking other people's. I'm trying to build them up here. Tension makes for great entertainment. No NFL movies for me.

How about this one? Football movies are lacking in general. Any Given Sunday is good. I'm not going with Sunday. I'm not going with it. That's a great movie. me. How about this? What movies are lacking in general? Any given Sunday is good. I'm not going with Sunday. I'm not going with it. That's a great movie. It's a great speech in an okay movie. That's a good movie. I'm going with this is a I'm surprised no one has said this yet. Rookie of the Year man. I was just thinking about here. God knows a Gary Busey. What's your name? wrote that? Oh, yeah, Daniely. What's the name? Wrote that.

Oh yeah. Daniel Stern. Yeah. The wet band Mr. Brinkman. The sticky bandit. The web band. I like Jack too. Yeah.

We got a lot of good ones here. This is, I mean, no, now we just got to say some of the people are yelling at this at their TVs right now. Why? What? There's just ones we've missed. Oh, of course. I mean, I mean, you could go countless.

Rush. I was going to put rush in. I was going to say Mike. I love race car movies. Dodgeball. Dodgeball's great. Major League. Oh, yeah.

Friday Night Lights. Friday Night Lights. Bull Durham. See, I like to remember the Titans more than Friday Night. Seabiscuit. White Man Can't Jump. The Friday Night Lights, I was in high school. So like, you were kind of like living it, Loki?

Yeah, we were living, not really, not like that. Those boys over there. Permian, bruh. That Permian, man, they love that football there, man. Varsity Blues. Varsity Blues is great. Loving Basketball. You want to win, Pup Boobie.

Loving Basketball is one of my, I should have put that on there. Hoop Dreams, Million Dollar Baby. Okay, now we're getting you know Cool runnings cool. Great. Don't get a ball fuck. Yeah. Oh blue chips Eight men out hurricane man karate kid they're including writing. Oh my god any of the Rockies Rocky one through four and I need to build a starting ten for each of us Mayen the comment section is going to be going.

Creating iron, go documentary. Wow. Doc. Wow. I didn't think about Doc. 100% Julie Nettelman. Thank you, Jack. Hey, I like that movie. Well, that was fun.

Thanks. That was, that was fun. Any other bull Durham. We didn't say bull Durham fudge. He just got caught for the love of the game, loved that movie. I watched that recently. They're calling the Big Lebowski, we're calling the Big Lebowski sports movie.

Oh, shut the... When there's bowling. Oh, baseball? I draw the line, kingpin. That creep can roll. I draw the line of kingpin there. Kingpin. Baseball. Baseball.

Baseball gotta be in there, man. Kingpin's awesome. You guys rip on me one or two or three more times, I'm outta here. Squeak. Squeak. That little bitch. Your mom's going out here. Squeak. That creeper. Your mom's going out with you. Squeak.

Baseball, baseball was like very formative for me, I feel like. Free solo. Does that count? Yeah, but it's not that fun. Yeah. It's more like anxious. Yeah. It's like an anxious movie.

It's like me counting like Uncut Gems as a sports movie. Like I'm the wrestler. That movie's so good. Oh, Blue Chips. Randy the Ram. Blue Chips. That movie. So blue. Randy the Ram. Blue chips.

That was a great one. Yeah. Neon bro. Shaq. He got a versus Ferrari. Oh my God. I love that bro. Ray Allen.

Jesus. How are we? That's literally one of I. I just I love Denzel in sports movies. What else is he in the two? My like two favorites. He's a game and the Titans. Remember the Titans, yeah. Those are two good ass sports movies.

Honestly. Alright, Tonya's good, shout out Paul Walter Hauser. Shout out Paul Walter Hauser. Alright, cool, so let's just say them real quick. Jack, what's your team? Let's go baby, the definitive starting five here. Bad News Bears, Space Jam, Jerry Maguire, The Fighter, Tin Cup,

and Rookie of the Year. I'm pleased with that. Yours is definitive. Mine is always ongoing. But for mine today, remember the Titans won, Sandlot two, Waterboy three, four of the program, five, Days of Thunder, and six, Man Off the Bench, Field of Dreams. I like that. Okay, mine is Miracle.

A little bit of everything, you know, I hit a little bit of, you know, heartfelt, child fun. Sam, that's a classic. Comedy, real life experience, Days of Thunder, program is just like, I remember watching that like oh my god This is college football. It's fucking crazy and then feel dreams. Just want to feel good I want to play catch with my dad in the cornfield And then my list is miracle happy Gilmore moneyball slap shot caddy shack and then honorable mention who's yours

I love it man the flow us up blow us up in the comments No, we didn't even say Mighty Ducks. I was gonna say that after you had because I saw you had all the hockey. I'm like do I want to throw a hockey in there? I'm just pulling up the list here right now. I saw a meme the other day that was like if I think it's like if you watch a movie in reverse it says a certain thing and there's a meme that's like if you watch Mighty Ducks in reverse, it's a team so bad, it makes the guy turn to alcoholism. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

Yeah. Your punishment for a DUI? Be around a bunch of kids. Mighty Ducks. And we don't have to worry about DUIs because as Coors Light fans as we are, we always celebrate responsibly. That's right.

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baseball. That was baseball. Baseball is kind of back though. I went to that Dodgers game. That was really fun. Shohei is gonna pitch I think. Shohei's, by the time we drop this he could have been pitching. Too fast almost. Too fast. You know what? He went by so fast. Let me give a little something about this Dodger Stadium. Okay. Let them know. Really cool. Like that 50s, 60s vibe. Really cool stadium. Super Dodgers dog, all beef. Really pretty good. Pretty good.

I got one thing. We can't bottleneck nine lanes to two in trying to enter this thing with no supervision. We're bottling necking and it's first, it's like war out there trying to get into this goddamn stadium. Boy, that merge was something else. You know what? And I will say it was against the Giants and we are Giants fans growing

up. So I brought Lily. She's wearing an orange little shirt, wearing her little Giants hat, doing the Go Giants Go. Respectful fans, not one chirp. I was gonna say, I didn't even. Not one chirp. Not a single chirp, really respectful. I was pleasantly surprised. They didn't chirp at all. No, I was ready to throw hands in the parking lot. I wasn't.

Shit. But it was a fun experience. Dodger Stadium was pretty cool. It was awesome, man. I had a great time. Shohei does bring electricity. It really was, it's one of those like, you gotta stop and realize like 50 years from now

you'll be telling your grandkid like, I saw Donnie play in person. Yeah, we saw him. You know those kind of guys. We saw him twice. That was incredible. Well, that's been another episode of Games with Names. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

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