Games with Names - Dudes on 12s

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

In honor of today being 12/12, we're talking about some of our favorite dudes to ever wear the number 12! Our first 12 won a slew of rings and has the singing voice of an angel. Our next guy is a freakish athlete that might be next up. Our last dude was no stranger to Super Bowl trips. We wrap it up by compiling a list of 12 things we're particularly thankful for. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No, I think it would go with Francisco. Francisco, Delaware. Francisco, Delaware. Yeah. I'm not even going to ask you where that was yours. Mine's Bobby Whiskers because I got whiskers all over the place. I hear like my hair is growing. I kind of shaved last night.

So Bobby Whiskers, that's my name is Rob. So Bobby Whiskers goes really well and it works every time. That's like an Italian, like wise guy like nickname. Hey, Bobby Whiskers. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman and I'm Rob Granckowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dude. And since today is 1212, we're talking about some great 12s from the world of football.

What kind of 12s are you talking about? Dude that has a bunch of rings. One word legend. I grew up watching this guy at nine o'clock before the Niners games. Oh, college college football player. First college football player. He's in a category of his own. And to be that well conditioned.

That's that's what it is. What about a legend? That's no stranger to a Super Bowl. Oh, who's that? And no, we're not talking about Tom Brady again. OK. We're not talking about Tom. We are talking. And then we wrap it up with 12 things that we're freaking thankful for. This is a holiday episode. Yes, we do. Let's go, baby. Let's go.

Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio. Dudes on 12s. We know we love dudes. And if a dude's a 12 out of 10, Jules, let me tell you, he's a stud automatically. That makes him a stud. You know what I call that? What's that? A Brady.

Oh. That dude that's 12 out of 10. That is a Brady and technically he is 12 too. He's 12. He's a 12. He's literally and figuratively 12. In emotionally? He's like a 20 out of 10 emotionally.

I mean, especially during the football days. Oh my God. We should just get going because it's 12 1224. We decided that we wanted to do an episode of dudes who represent the number 12. Now we've already done Brady. So we can't do Brady, which is weird if we're doing a 12 episode. Is that not a little weird? Because I would say he's possibly the greatest 12

of all time no matter what sport we're talking about. But we already did time. Who are other some great 12s? Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers. Joe Namath. Joe Namath. Randall Cunningham.

Kenny Stabler. Ooh, Kenny Stabler. Randall Cunningham. That'sabler. Oh, Kenny Stabler. Oh, Randall Cunningham. That's a throwback. OK. OK. I like I used to love Randall Cunningham. Who else is a good 12? And yet what other sports are 12s?

Doug Williams. Doug? Dougie Williams. Hey, one of my favorite, Dusty Baker. He's my favorite Giants manager. Baseball player. When he played, though, when he played, though, he was my favorite Giants manager. When he played though, when he played though, he was number 12, I believe. There's not many, who's a good 12 baseball player?

There's not many 12s out there, you know? What about Dwight Howard? It's kind of a random number. He was 12. He was 12. Dwight Howard was number 12 in the NBA, no way. Was he number, he was number 12. Dwight Howard, he just.

He was not number 12. That would be like weird. Was he number, he was number 12. Do I, how, he just. He was not number 12. That would be like weird. Was he? Really? Number 12 in the NBA. Wow. I never seen that before. John Stockton? John Stockton, ooh.

John Stockton. One of the greatest pastors of all time. Big pest. Love the guy. Love watching his highlights. Wade Boggs? Yeah. Wade Boggs? Yeah. Wade Boggs. What a name.

Grant Williams with the Celts. Ooh, alright, alright. What about, alright, alright. So 12 is our special theme day. Let's do some math related 12 problems. Alright, let's go. What's 12 squared? Oh, that's easy. 144. Alright.

That's 12 times 12. I mean, that's like the first like difficult, easy math problem that you were supposed to solve in like third grade. All right, all right, all right. Yeah. And it just flows well. 12 times 12 equals 144. What's 300 divided by 12? Oh, that's a tough one.

Well, if it's 144, 12 times 12. So then if you had 144 plus 144, that equals 288. So 25, because yeah, 25. 25? Yeah. All right, all right. 25. You see how I calculate my math problems now?

Like I kind of like, that's kind of like I calculated, like plays in my head as well. That's kind of how they do math now with kids like these. I'm learning the math. I thought you just carry the one and stuff. Now it's like there's a whole bunch of different pictures I'm learning right now in second grade. My next question. I love these math problems. I can hang out here all day, Jules, if you ask me this stuff. What's 12 times 69?

Oh, oh. Well, let me calculate again. So I figured out that 300 divided by 12 is 25. So 25, so two of those would be 50, would be, no, would be 50, which would be 600. All right. So then now we got 19 more to go. So what's 19 times 12? No, it would be 50, which would be 600. All right, so then We now we got 19 more to go. So what's 19 times 12? So 12 times 12 is 144

So 144 plus 600. I mean plus yeah 600 744 so now we got 7 times 12 to go still, correct? Right? So seven times 10 is 70. So then seven times two is 14. So that's 84. So 744 plus 84. All right, let's calculate that. Is 744 plus 84. Let me, All right.

744 plus 100 now is 844 minus 16. 828. Yeah, baby. Let's go. I told you I'm the math magician, baby. All right. Now you see how I break it down. You got arithmetic math down. All right. All right. All right. Let's do that. Let's do. I told you I'm the math magician, baby. All right. Now you see how I break it down. You got arithmetic math down. All right. All right. Let's do that. Let's do a word problem algorithm. If a movie is two hours in 12 minutes, how many minutes is that?

All right. Well, 60, 60, 120 plus 12, 132 under 32 minutes. Easy. I like that one a lot better than number 69, even though it had 69. I like that one a lot better than numbers. I'm 69, even though I had 69 and I like that one a lot better. Numbers guy like easy numbers. You made me work with the 12 times 69 minutes. Well, that's why it's this is 69. That's a lot of work. That that was pretty fascinating to see how you did the math. Yeah, I kind of wanted to break it down in the math.

You've been listening to you do the math. And I was like, that's how he's doing that math. Can you believe I got that right, though, in the end? Yeah, I can. wanted to break it down. I was doing the math, but then I was listening to you do the math and I was like, that's how he's doing that math. Can you believe I got that right, though, in the end? Yeah, I can. Like with all the numbers, I was going up and down. I was doing multiplication on the side. No, I can. Thank you. Yeah. Remembering. Thank you. You always knew a contract. Like if so, and a cap number, I just remember in the locker room,

you knew cap numbers and and and freaking salaries like how many years out? He's getting 12 to a year, dude What how did you get? Well, because I was like basic math I'm like really good at the basic math and multiplication and and division and stuff like 20 like he's got a three-year deal for $24 million. I mean you just break that down real quick. That's a million dollars a year. I'm like, that's just kind of like basic math. Usually division guaranteed.

Well, I mean, I don't know how I was just saying any random average, average guaranteed in the NFL is probably about two or three years. So if it's a three year contract, that's definitely a two year guarantee. So that would be $16 million guaranteed. But he's a better player than most players. So he got $18 million guaranteed. So that third year would be really hard to cut him still. So it's kind of like a 24 million dollar guarantee

because he made half of it guaranteed in that last year. So you can't cut him because you're going to take a beating if you do cut him. So you might as well just guarantee the whole. And the player took that because he was basically saying, if we get to the last year, the deal, you pay me again yeah exactly okay we don't you can cut me and I still get the I still get a two or three or four million dollars because I added that little extra guarantee to it man I wonder what Kasirio and Belichick think when we knew all their little fucking schemes

five hundred grand let me earn. You know what I'm talking about? Because area. Yeah, because area. Doing a great job in Houston. Let's jump on. He's coming for you still. He's still coming for you. I love this area. I remember a little bit. No, the last contract. Some guy got paid. I won't bring up his name that I got really disrespectful. Just want a Superboy MVP. I'm like, and I'm over here negotiating with these guys.

And I wanted 500 more to be at this guy's number who wasn't even half the caliber player. And the Patriots always say we don't negotiate against the market. I go in there and I was like not going to like a couple off season workouts. That's that's the extent of of our sitting out when you're a patriot. I wasn't going to march fucking optional workouts just to prove a point. And I fucking finally go in there. I see Casario at the goddamn water cooler.

I go, Nick, are you fucking out of your mind? We're 500 off. Put it in incentives and let me fucking earn it. At least give me the chance to earn the fucking money. And I was getting loud with them and he's like, Nick doesn't like any confrontation. So he's like, I'm like, Nick, put it down. He's like, I got it.

We'll get it. We'll get it done. I'm like, all right. And I fucking yell it. I basically bullied him into giving me an incentive. Well, to be fair, on your side, they were paying you. They were trying to give you a contract that was a half million dollars less than I'm not going to say his name than the guy that played your position,

who had like half the amount of catches and touchdowns and had no Super Bowl resume at all. No playoff experience, no playoff catches. And he got five hundred thousand more than you in the free agent market. So to be on your side, it was a free agent. Yeah, but it doesn't matter if you were in a free agent or not. You could have been in the in the future and you were just trying to take a team friendly deal to be fair on your side, to earn that incentive as well,

to just have the equal contract to that person that was having a bigger payday than you that had a half of a resume of your resume. That's fair. I'm all on your. And I earned that money. You earned it and he earned it. And I got it. And he earned it. And I got every penny Jules that you got in the NFL. It wasn't given to you.

It wasn't like you stole it. There's people that steal money in the NFL to sign a big deal. And the next thing you know, they vanish. You earned every penny, brother. I wish I could have been a mistake for a team, though. I know you would have probably made like 25 million dollars more. If I didn't take that last deal and I would have waited to a free agent with the new markets,

I would have been sailing off in the old dusty sunset, bro, drinking my ties on a goddamn beach in Fahiti, Fiji. Yeah, but the Haiti, but then you want to be some kind of some kind of E with some feet. Stop it. Stop it, because then you wouldn't be here with the dudes on dudes. Let's get into it. Let's go. Let's jump into it. Let's jump into it. We're going to do it a little differently this time.

What we're going to do is we're going to read the AI version and see if you guys can guess who we're talking about. We won't drop their name. And then we'll announce his name. But we will start the clock before then, and it will start right now. AI summary. Let's see what we got.

Standing at 6'3 and weighing 215 pounds, this legendary quarterback was drafted first overall in 1970. Woo! We have a true throwback on our hands, ladies and gentlemen. 1970. Number one? Woo, I was negative 19 years old in 1970. I was negative 16. No, 26. No, no, 16. I was negative 26 years old in 1970. I was negative 16.

Well, 26. No, I was negative 26 years old. No, you were born in 1986. Yeah. So eight, 1986 minus 1970 is. Negative 16 years old. Yeah, just making I want to see if your math was right. Yeah. Well, thanks, Jules, for checking on it and making me look like a superstar. All right. Well, this guy played 14 seasons in the NFL. 14. Oh, so you were in negative two when he retired and I was negative.

Five. Yeah, I was negative five when he retired. And so he's this is old. We got an old buck on our hand. Who is this old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old, old a Louisiana native. He wore 12 his entire football career off the field. I think I know who this is now. I have a look at the picture, so I know. Well, I mean, I don't, you know, take shortcuts like that. But off the field, he's known for his charisma and humor, making him a beloved broadcaster and entertainer.

Ladies and gentlemen, today's first 12 on 12-12-2024 is who, Jules? Let's get on Terry Bradshaw. Let's roll, baby. Let's roll. Oh, Uncle Terry. All right, Julian. Uncle Terry.

What's the first thing you think of when you hear Terry Bradshaw? One word, legend. I mean, I grew up watching this guy every morning at nine o'clock before the Niners games. Didn't really know his career. I mean, like, as a real football head until I got older, until we started getting to research stuff,

you always knew of who he was because he had four Super Bowls and he was part of the Pittsburgh Steelers, which is a foundational organization for the AFL, NFL. But then I got to, you know, then we got to work with them. And he's just like a fucking awesome dude. He's like just the best. He's such a good dude.

And he you know, he he's been very such a big heart, big heart. He and he's he's a superstar and he makes you feel comfortable like in the world when we jump into that world of being, you know, in TV, Terry Bradshaw. I mean, he's one of the reasons why Fox is what Fox is right now. He's a star, he's like, what is it, a parent founder? He's a founder.

Of the kickoff pregame show? He's a founder of the kickoff show and him and how he's in there. Howie Long and Jimmy Johnson as well. Jimmy Johnson. And I think it started with James Brown. James Brown. James Brown, my guy.

Who went over to where's he at now? CBS. Let's not talk about it because we have Kurt Menafee now. Yeah, we got Kurt. With us here at Fox. We got Kurt Menafee. It's a pleasure to have him. I'm glad that switch happened.

I don't know JB, but I can't imagine having anyone else besides Kurt Menafee. Yeah, no. But back to Terry, he's just a. He's like a country dude. He has a story and a joke for anything. He really does. Remember that the joke he got Brady on? We're we're he tells this long. He told this long story. He's got everyone. We're on this trip, a seminar.

And he's telling this story about a dog or something. And like he he knows how to get the story going. I mean, it was a 15 minute like starting story or pitch. What do you call that? A 15 minute setup? Like he was setting them up for 15 minutes. All for a five second punch line. All for a five, he sits there. Like you're sitting there, like you're job.

We're all sitting there. Like you're drooling like, like what's gonna happen next? Like he's that great of a storyteller. I forget the punch line, but all the other guys, Howie, Jimmy, Michael, they've heard that, he tells this damn joke, but he's got he's got Brady on the hook. Brady sitting there shedding a tear.

It's about some dog or something. This dog's dying or something. And I forget what the punch line is. But freaking how he comes in and he goes, oh, the whole late. Yeah, that's a sad one. Like everyone's in on the joke. Brady, who's the like Mr. Emotion is sitting there about to cry and then freaking

I think he dropped a punch line which I'm not doing any justice by not being able to tell the joke but that's the kind of guy Terry is man he had the whole fucking cast and crew involved in this thing to get Brady just to like let him know he's part of the team. How pissed was Brady too? Oh my god he was. Oh he got him good. He's such a fun guy to work with. Because he's testing you always too but he's always giving you little bits of advice. Yes yes yes that's you hit it exactly right on and Terry Bradshaw is for the people. He loves people. He loves entertaining people. He loves people. He loves entertaining people. He loves having conversation with people. It doesn't matter if you're a kid, you know, if you're a middle age man,

who doesn't matter, middle age woman, like older woman, older man. It doesn't matter. He loves conversation with people. He loves people. Doesn't matter what background you have. He's going to have a good time with you. And that's what makes Terry Terry as well. It makes him a seven, you know, greatest guy out there. He's testing you like like you said, but at the same time,

he's giving you career advice. And that's why I love working with him, because he's always keeping you on your toes. And he makes me feel very comfortable at the desk. He really does. He he kind of put me under his wing when I got there. I knew Terry from a couple of times before from a few other appearances. And we were hitting it off. And the best was when I came in the Fox and my dad's a huge fan of them. And I just literally come right up to him.

I've we already met a couple of times already, though, but it's my first time at Fox. I just never told him that my dad's a huge fan of him. And I walk up and you know how he's there straight hands there. And I go, hey, him that my dad's a huge fan of him. And I walk up and you know how he's there, straight hands there. And I go, hey, Terry, my dad's the biggest fan. And everyone thought like I was going to come in as a big fan, you know, as the new young book, as a rookie. And everyone just lost their mind and how he's like, oh, oh.

And Michael Stray, I was like, oh, it's his dad. That's the biggest fan, just the buses. Oh, well, but Terry loved it. That's the biggest fan just to bust his chops as well. But Terry loved it. Everyone. My dad's agent above even under is our huge fans of Terry. Everyone loves him. Not, you know, obviously because of his football skills and how much he did for the game of football for the NFL, winning four Super Bowl championships in six years, but also his personality off the field

as well. Man, people love him. You know, he's just a guy that is down for anything. Singing, dancing, Bronson. What is it? Bronson, Missouri. Branson, I think he does a concert every year in Bronson. And he Branson, Branson, Missouri, the one from She's Out of Your League, where they go on that vacation, you know, I'm talking about. So I think he does that.

He sings. He'll go do like shows. He's done stand up. He's done movies. His butt cheeks were in a fucking Ryan Reynolds movie. He always he talks about that. I mean, on the football field, I mean, everyone loves him off the football field. But I mean, he played so long ago, 1970 and 18. What to 919, 84.

Yeah. And it feels like he played in the 1800s, actually, because he played before we were even born. But like you said, I didn't really know the game of Terry Bradshaw until I got a little bit older. And I started working with him. And then I started going back and watching the history of football. And Terry Bradshaw, I mean, he's one of the leaders and he's kind of like a co founder of bringing the NFL to a whole nother level and winning championships

and and creating the pass game as well. I mean, the guy's got a strong arm. He's an exceptional leader. He's a gunslinger and he's resilient as well. I mean, he had one of the toughest coaches in the history of the NFL, you know, from what I'm reading and what I'm experiencing, watching documentaries about the Steelers and Terry, this guy wanted to bench him. And he still went out and won Super Bowls.

I mean, pretty, pretty incredible. I mean, he's clutch mobile. He has the ability to extend plays to when we're watching his highlights. So tough as hell. Tough as nails. I mean, the way those guys were getting hit back then, like he always tells me these stories about him when he breaks. He's breaking his back and stuff and guy like he Kim comes back two weeks later. And like those guys were. On a whole different grid iron,

like we were tough football guys, and yeah, the game's probably a little faster and bigger now, but I mean When you watch guys back in those days play it looks like it's illegal Mm-hmm, like forearms to the face taking guys down by their face masks Fitting on a guy when he's down Fucking people's elbow in the things that we got in trouble for were like legal in this time and he played 14 years and had two back-to-back Super Bowl runs. That's what people don't realize he went back to back They didn't win a couple and then he went back to back again, which is fucking crazy

the Pittsburgh Steelers are like one of the most popular organizations in football because of are like one of the most popular organizations in football because of Terry Bradshaw and those teams like setting that stage or an early, early football, which isn't like early, early, early football, but like 70s football's early, early football, which I mean, I went to Kent State, so that's right. That's like two hours from Pittsburgh. And I just remember there was always so many fucking Pittsburgh

Steeler fans everywhere around there. There'd be a lot of Cleveland Browns fans, but so many Pittsburgh Steelers fans everywhere. They travel. And it's because of Terry Bradshaw in those 1970 teams. Would you say he is the original TB12? Yeah, he is. I mean, I think I think Tom Brady wasn't a glee in his mom and dad's eye yet. When he was winning Super Bowls in 1970, when was Brady born? Seventy five. It actually makes it so fun being on the set with what makes it so fun,

you know, working with Terry, though, being on the set. And now that Tom Brady is with Fox as well is that I get the joke. Who my favorite TV 12 is, you know, and it's whoever's treating me nicer at the time. Yeah. So Tom comes in, you know, I'm asking him a question and he gives me props. I look at Terry. I'm like, Terry, Tom's my my favorite TV 12 right now. And then Terry gets all mad and upset and he goes, but grunt, I love you. And you're doing this great. You're doing this great. And I look back up at Tom.

I'm like, hey, the original TB 12 is my favorite TB 12 time. I'm sorry. I love just working it and playing. It just makes a lot of fun. And that's why it's so fun working at Fox to just with the teammates that we have is just, you know, unbelievable. Have you heard that Tom Brady and alias story? I have actually from Terry. Yeah. So Terry, well, let's hear it. What 1983 is surreal in 1983

when he needed to get an elbow surgery. He didn't want it to be in the paper. So using an alias name at the Louisiana Hospital. You know what that name was? Tom Frickin Brady. Tom Brady. You can't fucking write that. And then the original TV 12 basically. Faked named.

The current TV 12. That's fucking gnarly. That's some psychic shit. Yeah, he was also Terry Bradshaw was the number one pick to live up the expectation from Louisiana Tech to be the number one pick small country boy to go to the Pittsburgh Steelers and win four Super Bowls. That's fucking crazy. Crazy.

He was a flat out winner. And what I love about Terry, too, is nothing stopping that guy still to this day. I mean, whatever gets in his way, whatever gets in his path, he just keeps climbing over it and just keeps on going. He's always ready to go 24 7. I'm 35 and I look at him sometimes throughout the full day at Fox. And I'm getting tired and Terry never getting tired. There's always ready to go. Boom, boom, boom.

Always on point, always given a one liner, always talking football, always breaking down a play. He's just immaculate. And I love learning from him and I love being under his wing. And I love working with him as well, man. Is he immaculate, like the reception? Oh, and then also one one on a on a serious note. I'm pretty sure Terry Bradshaw was like one of the first NFL guys

to talk about mental health back in those days, which, you know, it's talked about all the time now with with football players and athletes, and it's pretty norm now. But it wasn't like that when we were playing, like people were, you know, there was a stigma or a perspective or a perception on guys that wanted help mentally or if you wanted to go talk to someone and like to have a guy like Terry Bradshaw in the 70s who was a fucking icon, you know, talk about his mental health.

That's a big part for why we are we're at right now in sport. You know, being OK to like talk about your mentals. You know, as as what is it? Marshall Lynch says you got to protect your chickens. You know, Terry Bradshaw was protecting his chickens back in the day. I like it, Terry, man. Appreciate everything that you've done. But I got a question real quick.

If Terry's alias name was Tom Brady, what would your alias name be, Jules? Who? I'll tell you mine right after mine's pretty good. And it's understandable. My alias, an alias name be, Jules? Ooh. I'll tell you mine right after. Mine's pretty good and it's understandable. My alias, an alias name? I would go with. Would it be Danny Amandola? No, I think it would go with Francisco, Francisco Delaware. Francisco Delaware?

Yeah. But that's how you would call like the hotel and be like, what name would it be under? Francisco. Delaware. Yeah, I'd be like that. That's how you would call like the hotel and be like, what name would it be under? Francisco, Francisco, Francisco, Delaware. Yeah, Francisco, Delaware. I'm not even going to ask you where that was yours. Mine's Bobby Whiskers because I got whiskers all over the place.

I hear like my hair is growing. I kind of shaved last night. Bobby Whiskers, that's a good fucking name. Bobby Whiskers goes really well and it works every time. That's like an Italian like wise guy like nickname. My friend, my friend one time he came into my hotel room drunk and he he got on the phone to call room service. And you know how they answer and they're like

and they say your name like, hello, Mr. Whiskers. How may I help you? And he his jaw dropped. He, they're like, hello, Mr. Whiskers, how may I help you? And he, his jaw dropped. He was hammering, he goes, Mr. Whiskers? And he looks at him, he goes, you're fricking Mr. Whiskers? And then he gets back on the wall. Yes, I'm Mr. Whiskers, I'll fucking give me eight cheeseburgers, and he hung back up and then eight cheeseburgers came.

Wait, so you actually use this in alias name? Yeah, all the time, actually. Bobby Whiskers. Oh, I can't wait to. Time. What kind of dude is Terry Bradshaw? I mean, I feel like this one's pretty easy. It is.

It is? He's obviously a dog. When you play in those days, in the 70s everyone had to be kind of doggish. I'm just going to put it out there. You had to be a dog to play in the 70s. I mean, when you get your mentally tough, he was to you getting your teeth kicked in and then you're going to work at the gas station off season.

That's that's a dog. He's he's a great dude's dude. He is. I mean, at work, he's a guy. He's a glue guy at work whenever we work with him nowadays. Like he's always talking shop and he'll make his rounds to like everyone. And, you know, want to go out to dinner, have a good time with you, have a drink with you. He definitely we did. Big time. We did go gambling once we played craps and he's never played craps before.

And I'm I'm not joking. Terry was rolling and he rolled for fucking 61 minutes. 61 minutes, we had to get it timed. Why not add eight more minutes to that? I wish he would've, but I took it. Dude, I won so much money with Terry and I'm sitting there like, Terry, give me a fucking Tom Ratan.

He's like, what's that? And he's throwing it. I'm like, it's a 44. He's like, is that good? I'm like, 44, yeah. He's like, did we win? I'm like, yeah, we won, Terry. Oh, Jules, you're gonna be excited right now.

I wanna go to Vegas with you, brother. So he's definitely a dude's dude. He is a dude's dude, but I would stamp him as a dog because of the era that he grew up in and just what he did to under his head coach, wanting to bench him and him not getting, you know, nothing ever faced. He's also a stud, though, winning four Super Bowls in six years as well, which is pretty incredible. That's crazy. I mean, I mean, what are we?

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All right, here we go. Here's the synopsis. I can give you a clue. He wears number 12. Oh, good clue. All right, at six foot one, 185 pounds. He's one of college football's most electrifying talents. Oh, college college football player. First college football player.

Now we talking. I was waiting for this day. I was waiting for this day. I was waiting for this day. I was, too. You know, this is a Christmas present, early Christmas present here we got for all the Hanukkah come early fans out there. Eight crazy nights. That initially a top five recruit committed to a power five school. He made waves by committing to an HBCU program now playing in the Big 12.

He's making highlights on both sides of the ball week in and week out. A Florida native. He has a he was a two sport athlete, excellent in both football and basketball in high school. Off the field, he's a gamer and content creator with a massive social media following. Jules, who is our first college player wearing number 12? Let's get on Travis Hunter. Ooh. Man. All right, all right. I'm excited about this. I Hunter. Oh, man. All right. All right.

I'm excited about this. I'm excited, too, man. Not just because we have our first college football player, but we have the biggest college football player in all of college, possibly a Heisman Trophy winner. He's a two way player, one of the best wide receivers in the game, but also one of the best defensive backs in the game. When was the last time we've even seen a player play both ways, not just in the NFL ranks,

but we're talking just even in the college ranks, Drew. Well, I don't think anyone's played like this. I don't think any, I think he's averaging 114 plays per game. That's fucking gnarly. I remember when we played in the game you didn't play in that 16 Super Bowl when we had three receivers. We had 102 plays and we were fucking exhausted.

Gassed. Exhausted. And this guy plays 114 plays a game. 114 plays average a game. Which is, that's crazy to me. But also, he's like that first generation. He's like we're starting to get a lot of these new guys. These are the first generation guys of going from like one school to another school.

I mean, I believe he committed to Florida State and then Dion didn't get the job. And then he went to Jackson State and then went from Jackson State, went to the Big 12 to Colorado with Coach Prime. Like this is this new generation of like a free agent type player. And I don't blame him. Why wouldn't you go with one of the most electrifying athletes that did it where you want to go in the National Football League with Deon Sanders, who's going to help you develop

to what you ultimately want to do and become a pro. I mean, it's been so impressive to watch this kid play. Well said. And you can't blame the kid at all going where Dion Sanders goes, because it's all about relationships in life. If you have a good relationship, why would you want to break that relationship? You know, relationships go far. If it's a long distance relationship or if it's a relationship, you can go somewhere with someone.

So you got to give him much respect that he's loyal. Dion and Travis Hunter are loyal to each other and each other's family. And you got to appreciate that because you don't see loyalty, you know, like that anymore in the United States. All with all this social media, everyone's usually out there for themselves. But to see that loyalty is something special. And that's why it's working. And that's why it's working.

And that's why he's, you know, Deon's creating a powerhouse just within Travis Hunter and then also a powerhouse of a program at Colorado. Because they're loyal to each other there. And I like that, man. I like it a lot. Now, what do you think he's better at receiver or DB? Oh, man, that's a tough question. And what's he going to do? There's another question as well. What's he going to do when he gets to the NFL? He's going to play both.

He's going to pick a wide receiver. He's going to pick a corner. I mean, we can all throw our perspectives in. But I mean, it's always obviously up to what he wants to do and what's best for the team or whatever way he wants to go, whatever which way and direction. But in college, I would say his first couple of years, he was a better quarterback, but a corner better corner back

Yeah, he was making plays interceptions You know he kind of you know was doing well at the wide receiver position running by guys But lately now since Colorado has taken off their top 20 now They're winning games And I would say that has to do with Travis Hunter stepping it up at the wide receiver position And from what I'm seeing he is a better wide receiver now than he is a cornerback. You know, this year, his third year in the college ranks, I thought he was a better cornerback his first two years than being a wide receiver.

But what he's doing now is special at that wide receiver position. He's starting to understand it more. I feel like, you know, he's running routes now. He's not just more athletic than the other guy. He's starting to understand it more, I feel like. He's running routes now. He's not just more athletic than the other guy. He's going up there. He's pinpointing the ball, jumping over two guys. Strong hands, that's exactly what you need at the next level as well.

And it's just fun to see him go, man. And you want to know what makes him so fast? You want to know what makes him so fast? Is he got skinny calves, man. As Dion Sanders always said, you never seen a racehorse with calves. Mm-hmm You never seen a racehorse with calves. I remember Deon said that one somewhere I could be fully wrong, but I feel like that's I had big calves So I wasn't got a fast fast guy look on my change of direction calves

I got I got way too big of legs. No the thighs the thigh. It's not the thigh It's you look at his thighs He's got big thighs. But when you have those little bird calves that come up to here, you know, I'm talking about that little, it's like a little bird calf. Like you think those are that's a speed guy. You think if I get liposuction in my calves,

I can make it back to the NFL? No, but if you get a calf implant, you look really cool. That was a good answer, Jules. I like that way better. Is he going to win the Heisman? I mean, you got to play out the whole year to see if he should win the Heisman or not. And I truly don't even know anyone else

that's in Heisman contention. Yeah. That's half of it, right? Media. Yeah, half of it is media. I think he should because it's unbelievable what he's doing on both sides of the ball. And what's so great about him as a defensive back to he's always around the ball.

I mean, he's making interceptions off tip balls. He's making interceptions because he's going to go make the play and go and deserve that interception. But when you fall into an interception, that's just because you're always around the ball and you have that knack of just always wanting to be around the football. That's just a smart player right there, man. He's a really he's an exceptional zone corner. I haven't seen a lot of man and I'm and I haven't watched a whole, whole lot.

I mean, I watched a lot of his highlights for this, and I've seen all his highlights. But like his instinct. To jump off of his zone, to track another zone and reading the quarterback is really good. Like he's always like a trapped zone defender, like he'll he'll keep his eyes in the backfield trap, meaning he's got the flat. There's a guy inside of him and there's a two deep safety. Like he'll keep his eyes on that backfield and he's breaking on the ball

before the receiver is because he knows, you know, probably the receivers responsibility, which I remember when I played defense, it made me a better receiver, you know, when they brought me into those meetings. That's what I did wanna ask you as well. What was it like playing defense and offense? Actually, you did it in the NFL ranks as well. That was what, year 2011?

So you can explain more of what Travis Hunter is doing than anyone else. Well, it's, as a player, it made me a better receiver. Because once I stepped into all the defensive back meetings, I was learning what they were protecting. I was learning their techniques. I was learning on certain things what they would try to do with safeties.

That's really what mattered. The corners could lie. But if the safeties were out of position, that's when you would pay the leverage that the defensive back always had to keep because he was protected with certain help on certain sides. Like that taught me as a receiver, like in my in my route running, that if I do this to this guy, I know he's protecting this, which I see it in his game when he's playing defense, when he's jumping all over these these these

the receivers, leaving his zone. So it's really hard mentally. Like, that's what I'm interested to see how he does in the NFL, because once you get to the league, you know, there's no, you know, Rice Academy, agricultural school where you could just go and glove up their their best receiver, who's you know, he's good in college while having to study, you know, the game plan for offense,

which, you know, in the NFC or AFC championship, I played like 25 plays on offense. I played 25 plays on defense. I played all the special teams, something along those lines could be off a couple of plays here or there. But it was so hard for me in the prep week to get all my mind ready for what my offensive needs were. And then also for what my defensive needs and my responsibilities were.

It was a lot mentally. And then, you know, practice, you're you're going the whole time. And in NFL, 17 game season. So, you know, it's been really impressive to watch him doing in college. I don't know what he's going to do in a pro. I'm probably pretty sure if I was him, I'd go defense because those corners get paid a lot of money. And then they probably give you a package on offense here.

They're red, red area package or a third down package or or, you know, a gimmick package where we need to get like some spark. You get them in like a slip screen or he can he catch the ball down the sideline. But that's well said, though. I believe that he could possibly play both ways in the NFL, but not full time. Both ways, like you said, have a package for him on offense in the red zone or, or third down or whatever it is or whatever best suits his skillset at the wide receiver position and then use him full time on the

defensive side of the ball. But I would say it's up to Travis Hunter, obviously what he wants to do in the NFL. I mean, coming out of high school, I was an all state defense event. I only had eight catches as a tight end, you know, coming out, coming out, you know, going into the college ranks. But the whole time I knew I wanted to play the tight end position. But if you were a fan out there, you'd be like, wait, wait a second, you were all state DN.

Why are you going, you know, to college with tight end? Because I knew that best suited me. I knew that I had the best chance of making it to the NFL because I felt like I was a tight end and I felt like I could grow at that position and be the best out there. So it's all up to him. It's all up to his mindset, what he thinks best suits him. And only Travis Hunter could determine what side of the ball

he wants to play. But he's so good in my eyes. It'd be really, really tough to play a full NFL game on both sides. But he's so good. He's good at both positions where he a full NFL game on both sides. But he's so good. He's good at both positions where he could be in packages on both sides of the ball. He could be an impactful player on both sides of the ball. He may. Yeah.

Probably special team or two. Oh, he can return kicks. He's also making $3 million a year right now in college, so he ain't no rush. Man, what would you do with that money if you had that in college, Jules? $3 million bucks, bro? I would probably have, at that time of my life.

I'd have the sickest like surround sound, big screen TV. I'd have the dopest like Xbox stuff. I'd have a gamer chair because when you're in college, that's what you did. You play video game. I'd have a sick poker. We used to play a lot of poker in college. I buy like a sick custom poker table for like a poker night. All right. We're talking. Obviously, you're going to you're I mean, we you roll up to George's fucking

student parking lot. You see nothing but Lamborghini. So I think I'd have to join the club, get a Lambo or something. I mean, you're a college kid. You got no fucking fears of anything. I call those Lambo shit boxes. Well, you want to know why? Because I can't fit in. My knees are going. What, you want to know why? Because I can't fit in. My knees are going.

What would you do with a windshield? I would have a frickin F-150 Raptor or something. I know you would do Lambo. I would have the Lambo of the, you know, four trucks. I don't really like them either, but I just I just can't. I get a Lambo. That's why I say that. It's three million bucks. You probably can get a Lambo, actually.

What would you do? Just if you were in college, this is what I think college Rob would do. Let's hear it. You would you just buy an Olympic sized pool, make it a hot tub? There we go. And there you go. You're hitting me right on the money tools. Also, I know I was a big Halo player, man.

I love video games and Halo was our game in the house that we lived in. And we played four way players on that. What was it? Xbox 360. And we we had the four worst gaming chairs of all time. Falling apart like two wheels on the chair. But it was squeaking, ruining the ruining the floor every single time we were playing. But we didn't care as long as we got our halo in. And Halo gave you that excitement, gave you that juice as well before going out.

So it was always a pregame game to play as well before hitting, you know, hitting the town on a Friday night. But I would have had the I would have had the best possible video game set up that you could possibly have if I was making that type of money. Hell, yeah. College man. Big time and time. Let's do it. It's time. Well, it's time. Dude, is Travis Hunter? Man, he seems like a great team guy.

He is a great team guy. Seems he doesn't seem selfish. He seems like he gets along with everyone. He has a great attitude, so he could be a dude's dude. He could definitely be a dude's dude, you know, especially to the video gamers out there. Yeah. I mean, always streaming with everyone, always letting everyone have the insight of what's going on in his life, which is really cool, man. And what's different about this era compared to our era is if you were a streamer or if you were big on social media at our time, like it would be frowned upon. Like coaches would use that against you if you mess up

on the field. But that's what this new generation, these new millennials are all about. Hey, let's vlog, let's blog, let's play video games. Let's what was a twitch and let everyone see our video game streaming going on. And that's totally normal. And that's how it should be, because if you take care of business on the field, you can do whatever you want outside of football on your own time. But our era, it was always frowned upon because there was no such thing as social media like it was just starting to become big. So they would use every excuse if you messed up on the field.

Oh, he's on Twitter. He's doing that video game. But it's cool that guys like him are just so good at what he does on the field, and it makes it totally normal that he's still a streamer, and he's kicking ass at that, too. So that's really cool. You know, so at Colorado, they have the L or the D. They don't give a C.

They don't give the captain logo. They give the L or the D. They don't give a C. They don't give the captain logo. They give a leader or a dog. And he got the dog symbol, so he could be a dog. Because as Deon says, every dog and a leader and every leader ain't a dog. Ooh, ooh. I like it.

That's real too. That's real. I honestly don't see, I see him as a dog. Like we always say, guys are multiple things. But the one thing that sticks out. To me, I want to see if it sticks out to you on three. One, two, three, three. Stamp it. Why is he a stud?

I would say he's a stud because he's playing 144 plays a game. Well, that's freaky. Yeah, actually. All right. All right. That's freaky. Right. Right. He's a stud on the field because he he's a stud on the. He's a stud on the field because he's a freak. Yeah. Let's change it, Jules. Let's change one, two, three. Freak. Yes. He's I mean, it's pretty it's pretty insane.

It's pretty insane to have 114 plays a game. I hope he continues to have the success. And by the time we drop this, maybe they'll be in the play. He's 100 percent a freak when you play 114 plays a game. You're just absolutely freak of freak of nature. And he's making plays on both sides of the ball. I mean, yeah, that's studly, but that's more of like, whoa, that's like, whoa, that's some freakish material right there.

No ands, ifs or buts about it. He's got some weird, crazy like numbers. Records were like he's got. Over 500 yards, he's got like four interceptions, this, that he's done it like three times and one person's ever done it. It was like champ Bailey, like 25 years ago. So like this guy's in a he's in a category of his own. And to be that well conditioned.

That's that's what it is. You're a freak. You're a freak. You're an absolute freak if you're that well he conditioned. Well, he conditioned well, he conditioned the most welly conditioned player in all football, college football, that is. Let's go. Who do we got next? Not doing Brady because we already did them. So don't give us a Brady Brady Brady, even though he thinks

he should be out here twice. All right. Do number three. Oh, this guy is fucking do number three. But is number 12. Do number three. Oh, this guy is fucking. Do number three, but is number 12. Do number three that number 12 start the clock. All right. At six foot three, 226 pounds. He played the position of quarterback. Oh, he was drafted in the first round of the 1983 NFL draft. So Jules, you were negative one years old and I was negative six.

Negative three. Oh, yeah. Negative three. Yeah. You're not. I thought you were eighty four. Eighty six. I got confused with when Terry retired. All right. He started his pro career in the USFL before moving to the NFL, where he led the team to four consecutive Super Bowl appearances in the early 1990s. Oh, I know who it is. I know who it is, too, because I'm looking at it. But this is my hometown team jewels.

He's known for his toughness and leadership. He threw for over 35000 career yards and 237 touch on. Whoa, that's spectacular right there. He's pioneering the no huddle offense. That's what he's known for. Handling from Pennsylvania, he was a standout at the University of Miami before his professional career. Off the field, he's known for his resilience,

especially in his battles against cancer and his work with his own charity. Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you from my hometown. He's not from my hometown, but he introduce you from my hometown. He's not from my hometown, but he played for my hometown team. Jim Kelly, ladies and gentlemen, one of the best quarterbacks in Buffalo Bill's history, if not the best quarterback, Jim Kelly. Throwback back in the day, no doubt about that.

Went to four Super Bowls, unfortunately didn't win any, but he did so many great things for the city of Buffalo. He still talked about to this day, he's so beloved in Buffalo, everything that he'd done for Buffalo, you know, you can't thank him enough. Julian, what do you think of Jim Kelly when you hear his name?

Let's get on Jim Kelly. What do I think about? Honestly, I get sad. I get sad about when I think about? Honestly, I get sad. I get sad about when I think of Jim Kelly because he had such an amazing career and he got to the Super Bowl four times in a row and he never got to feel what winning the Super Bowl feels like.

And this game is tough and we've had a lot of success but there's a lot of guys that have never felt that success. And that, you know, through their numbers and through how they played, you wish that they would have had an opportunity to feel that. I also think about like, what the fuck is in Pennsylvania? Because they always had really Joe Montana,

Dan Marino, Jim Kelly. Like I and I used to love Joe and I love I love Dan and I love Jim Kelly. And they all are from like right next to each. Well, let me tell you this, Jules, I played my senior year in high school in Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh. And let me tell you, that's some of the best football in America. It's underrated. I'm telling you, Western Pennsylvania football is through the roof. I

mean, we're getting 14, 15,000 people a game. We had 11 NFL players from my high school, Woodland Hills High School, the Woodland Hills Wolverines. We had 11 guys in the NFL my second year, the most out of any high school in all of America. And then on top of it, I mean, there's guys left and right throughout Revis, Aaron Darnold, Dan Marino, obviously, central Catholic. You can name a list of guys, probably about 50 to 100 guys that are in the NFL that just played in that area.

I'm telling you, Pennsylvania football in high school is underrated. It's just it's up there with Florida and Texas and California. That's for sure. And he's a big part of it. You know, being a guy that had as much success as Jim Kelly had. I mean, the K-Gun offense is like what us young guys don't know about and even the younger generation, we're so accustomed to seeing no huddle. We're so accustomed to seeing empty sets.

Jim Kelly and these Buffalo Bills were the innovators of that. They would get to that line of scrimmage. I mean, they had a fight. I think they had like a I remember we talked about with Ernie. What kind of many points did they have? When they beat them in the Giants, it was it was special to Ernie that they beat the greatest show on turf, the Buffalo Bills.

Because they were the two highest scoring offenses and they hit these crazy high score number I don't know what that number is but like that's because of Jim Kelly I mean he used to dish that ball out It just you feel sad when you think about Jim Kelly, even though he'd be such a great player But he you know that he wanted to win a Super Bowl. He was one of the guys that innovated the quarterback position to where it is now. You know, he was setting the standard of the passing game

along with a lot of great guys. I mean, it started with Terry Bratch, obviously. But to bring the passing game to another level, that's what Jim Kelly did. You know, being a pioneer of that and also he was the pioneer of the no huddle offense. And I actually just went, you know, thanks for, you know, being a pioneer of that. And also he was the pioneer of the no huddle offense. And I actually just went, you know, thanks for, you know, asking me about it. Jules, how good of a time it was and how special it was about me going into the Buffalo Hall of Fame.

I was going to the. Thank you, Jules. I appreciate that. I've been waiting for that for a couple of days now. Went into the Buffalo Hall. Yeah. Last month, I went into. Yes, yes. It was a it was a special honor, man. You know, you can't forget.

You can't forget where your home roots came from. You know, where that mentality started, where that grit and grind, you know, was was built. Rudy's Blue Cheese is out Rudy's Blue Cheese. You know, you got to only have blue cheese when you're in Buffalo. If you say Rancho, they're going to give you that stink guy and they're going to throw you out of their restaurant if you order ranch over blue cheese and Buffalo. Well, let me tell you, man. So I went into Hall of Fame, the Buffalo Hall of Fame with

Vic Carucci as well. Vic Carucci and NFL senior writer for, you know, how many years? I think million 40, 50, 60 years. We'll just say a hundred years for Vic Carucci because he's that legendary. He's wrote that many books and that many articles about so many players and with so many organizations, the guy's a legend. So Jim Kelly made a video, you know, for the Buffalo Hall of Fame. Just congratulating Vic Ruchi because Vic Ruchi wrote a book, you know, with Jim Kelly. And I've known Vic Ruchi since I was in eighth grade.

I'll tell a little bit of story about that as well. But in the video as well, you know, Jim Kelly, congratulate Vic Carucci. But at the same time, he gave me some very sentimental props as well and congratulate me and saying how well of an honor it is to, you know, watch my career develop a guy from Buffalo, and all that good stuff and so and so just it was just really cool to, you know, have that moment of Jim Kelly just on the big screen. You know, the Buffalo's, you know, Buffalo's quarterback, hometown

hero from when I was just a kid to congratulate me for going into the Buffalo Hall of Fame. So that was just a really cool moment by Jim Kelly to do that, not just congratulating Vic Carucci, but also being able, you know, congratulating me, which was really cool. It meant a lot, man. It meant a lot.

That was your childhood hero. That's like going into the San Francisco Hall of Fame and Joe Montana. That would be insane. So what did he say about Jim Kelly? There we go, that's what I'm talking about. But first off, Vic Carucci was cool. When I was in eighth grade, Vic Carucci's daughter was actually my age as well.

I was friends with her. She was friends with my friends. And I went over to their house and I saw Vic Carucci in eighth grade. I knew he was an NFL red. And I looked him in the eye and I said, one day you're going to be writing about me. And he goes, get out of here, kid. You're just crazy. I go, no, you're going to be writing about me.

And still to this day, he tells that story how unbelievable it was that I was just a kid and told him he would be writing about me. And then I made it happen. So it was just a special moment to go into the Buffalo Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah. Rootsy, one of the best NFL writers of all time. I love the guy. But yes, then we talk, you know, Jim Kelly stories, obviously.

And a couple stood out to me. First off, he wrote a book with Jim Kelly. I mean, everyone loves Jim Kelly. Vic Rootsy only has great things to say about Jim Kelly. Everyone does. I mean, he was great for the city of Buffalo. So they would always get together. And it was always, hey, you does. I mean, he was great for the city of Buffalo. So they would always get together, and it was always, hey, you bring dinner one night,

you bring dinner one night, because you're writing a book. It takes a while, Jules. I mean, it takes a long time. It takes a long time. You wrote a book. Memoir, you wrote a memoir. I mean, we were all in the New York best-selling list here.

Thank you, we are. Top 10 seller right here on the New York list. How about you, Jules? I think we're there, and I got some children books. So, Vic. Trilogy, Flying High. Go check it out. We're in your category as well. We're you know, we're cool like you.

We can write. I mean we got top sellers books. Top seller. Yeah. I wouldn't say right, but we could. Yeah. We just told them the story. Yeah. Someone wrote it.

Sounds good. Sounds good. All right. So Vic Ruggi kept bringing Chinese food over to him and he started noticing like after he ate the Chinese food, Jim Kelly, he would start falling asleep. So Chinese food was making him sleep and he sit in there like, Yo, Jim, wake up. And he started noticing that he got to stop bringing Chinese food

Jim Kelly's house to eat dinner with while he's trying to, you know, write a book with him. Hey, I fall asleep. That's a classic funny story. So then instead he learned that Jim Kelly loves hunting. He loves venison. And instead, instead of bringing Chinese food over, he would just try to bring meats over. And he says that Jim Kelly by far has the best venison meat of all times.

He knows how to make it non gamey. Yeah. The way that he cooks in all the sauces that he uses, which is really cool, man, because who does not like a nice piece of protein? What's a food that gives you a food coma? Like, if I were to try to write a book with Rob, and I was like, and I want to bring over some food to make you, like Jim Kelly fall asleep.

That's what would it be? That's a good question. I would say chicken parm with pink vodka sauce and a lot and a lot of pasta on the side with it. That's just that's just knocked me out. Bye bye. Bye bye. After 30 minutes, I'll be like this. Oh, just so relaxed. I can't move. Just put a movie on. I can't move. Just put a movie on. Yeah, just done. Dunzo pasta pasta will do it.

No, what chicken parm with extra pink vodka sauce. But it's so good. And then also like five appetizers and then also like, like a nice dessert to like a milkshake. A milk. What kind of milkshake? Oreo, Oreo milkshake. What kind of milkshake? Oreo. Oreo milkshake. Here's another one. So Vic Carucci, he was a writer for the Buffalo Bails.

And you saw that run by Josh Allen just a couple of weeks ago versus the Kansas City Chiefs, where he sealed the deal with two minutes left. And they beat the Kansas Chiefs, who were undefeated this year and gave them their first loss. So I was just talking to Vic and he goes one play that will always stick out to me. Is you see that Josh Allen run? Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah, Vic, I did. He goes, yeah, Jim Kelly did one very similar. It was a division game. You know, a lot was on the line.

They were in Miami playing Miami and he just took the ball with a couple of minutes left in the game. And no one could stop him. And he brought it to the house. And everyone was shocked. Like, whoa, what was that? What was that? It was one of the best plays in Jim Kelly's, you know, story career. And it got everyone going. So Vicks in the locker room after that. And he goes up to Ray Bentley.

Ray Bentley is a defensive player, funny guy, you know, maybe you never heard of him, but he was he was on the Buffalo Bills. And he goes, Hey, Ray, what did you think about that run by Jim Kelly? You want to know his answer? Vic never wrote this in the paper. Let's see. What did what he say? Ray Bentley told Vic Carruzzi, what he say that Jim Kelly could fill up a dump truck. Oh, you know what?

Jules, some vanilla type of frosting because his balls were so big when he tucked it and he ran for that touchdown. Oh, my. Those are large balls. That's once again, we got to do it. We got to get we got to get a tip jar on when we talk about a genital of a man and we're gonna donate it to a charity. Every time we talk about a ball or a D.

And you wanna know what he said, he asked Jim Kelly about that play and how great it was and everything. You wanna know something? Jim Kelly goes, oh my gosh, I hated that play. Like I hated the ending to it because he scored and then the whole entire team came and jumped on him. And he thought he was gonna get suffocated

at the bottom of the pile. Has that ever happened to you before? Yeah, I hated being at the bottom of the pile. Like you have to like, when you're at the bottom of the pile, sometimes in it's a huge pile, you'll hear a couple screams. You'll be like, ah, get up! Especially when you're like a younger kid,

when you're a man is different. But I remember being as a kid, you had to like pull and bite and scratch and get everything to just get people to move because you're suffocating. Did you ever get under the pile? I never liked being at the bottom of the pile. Never.

You thought as a kid, it was like the coolest thing to be at the bottom of a dog pile. And then you really notice after you been through that experience, that it was the worst possible situation ever being. And then people are tugging at your ankles. There's a couple of people taking cheap shots of when you're going as, you know, trying to twist your ankle, give you a charlie horse, poke you in the eye. Just so much dirty things go down at the bottom of the pile. You never want to be involved.

You never want to be a part of that. Never. And we would be crazy not to also talk about this man as a two-time cancer beater. That's a tough thing, and we've all seen the documents, and we've seen a lot of the footage of him being sick and to have the toughness to go through that and continue and build the charity that he built for,

I believe it was throat and jaw cancer. You gotta be a tough guy, he beat it twice. This guy's been fighting a lot his whole career and. It's suiting for him to be. A buffalo guy because he's just a tough guy. That's totally true. And just talking to Vic as well. He was just always so passionate in everything that he did. And then also with what his son went through and, you know,

he started his own charity, you know, and all that. He just made sure that the money went to. You know, the best possible scenarios to help other people out there. And he was passionate about being involved in his charity. He was passionate about, you know, where the money went to. So, you know, other kids, you know, could be able to, you know, fight, you know, where the money went to. So, you know, other kids, you know, could be able to, you know, fight, you know, and have the money to be able to have the treatments that they needed to fight through. And it's just tough, man.

He set the standard of what the city of Buffalo meant. And that's toughness. That's being blue collar. That's having grit. That's never giving up. And that's what Jim Kelly represents as well throughout his whole life on the field and off the field. So much props to him. And on top of that, I talked to Vic too about, you know, how he invented the no huddle offense.

And he told me that his brain processes so quickly on the field that it helped him perfect the no huddle offense and how fast he was and his demeanor and personality of just calculating a play and what he should do next on the field is what made him the player and what made him invent the no huddle offense and what made the Buffalo Bills so great. And it was because of that on the offensive side of the ball. And they said it was Jim Kelly's team.

When Jim Kelly was on the field, you know, he demanded that presence. He demanded that respect. And the same thing went on in the meeting rooms. It was Jim Kelly's team and everyone knew that. And that's special. That just shows his leadership. That just shows how much the players respect him as well.

On the field, off the field, on, you know, on game day, in the meetings, all that good stuff. And, you know, that's why he's definitely one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time and definitely. I want to say the greatest Buffalo Bill quarterback of all time. But the thing is, Josh Allen is playing right now. I just so how do I put that that Jim Kelly's the greatest quarterback that ever played for the Buffalo Bills that is currently not playing yet?

I think that that works. I think that works. That works well, because Jim, I mean, obviously, Josh Allen is just such a beast. But for everything that Jim Kelly did for kids in the city of Buffalo, that everything Kelly for Kids Foundation, he did as well kids in the city of Buffalo, that everything. Kelly for Kids Foundation. He did as well to represent the city of Buffalo. We thank you, Jim, for all that, man.

You made us stronger, you made us believe, and just thank you, man, that's all. Last question before we get to what kind of dude Jim Kelly is, if the Buffalo Bills go out and win a Super Bowl with Josh Allen, does Jim Kelly get a ring? I mean, I feel like he does. He probably, no. Does he deserve a ring?

No, does he want it? I would say no, he's a competitor, man. As a competitor, you don't want to freebie. You don't want to freebie. You know, it is sad, though, those four Super Bowl victories, especially when we were watching his highlight film, man, and and just seeing that, I mean, he's pretty precise. Good thing I was young because I didn't really have, you know,

I was like four years old when they went to those four Super Bowl. So like you don't know what's going on. So I didn't feel that pain. But I mean, does he does he get a super boring if the Buffalo Bills? I would say no, it's not like he's part of the organization right now. Yeah. From what I know, I mean, he's a huge icon in the city of Buffalo, but it's a whole different era. It's a whole different team. So I'll go with no. in the city of Buffalo, but it's a whole different era. It's a whole different team.

So I'll go with no. All right, all right. What kind of dude is Jim Kelly? I mean, he's a stud. You remember seeing him with all those fur coats and stuff coming from Miami U. He's probably, he's clearly a whiz because he's without Jim Kelly, there would be no Peyton Manning. There'd

be no you know, NASCAR offense with us with Tom Brady. I mean, no huddle was was pretty much invented through Jim Kelly and that K gun offense with those early 90 bills, late 80 bills. So he's definitely a whiz. He's clearly a dude's dude because, I mean, unfortunately he had throat cancer, but that's from throwing probably a chew in with all the boys at the fucking locker room.

That's what he was doing. He was sitting there with the chai. Yeah, but that's fine. You're just being a dude. Yeah. Like, but I mean, but he's also. What do you think he is? Man. I think. Oh, to have the mental, physical toughness

to overcome cancer after losing four Super Bowls, mind you. Like, you know how you got to be a lot of people. I'll be and that's what he is. He's a tough ass. And that's a dog. You're right. That is a dog. And a dog doesn't always win either. Dogs don't always win.

No, they don't, man. They'll bite your fucking kneecap on the way out when you lost. Exactly. And they'll keep on going. They don't care. They don't care. One, two, three dog. We'll be right back after this quick break. And I'm his grandson Langston Kerman. And we host My Mama Told Me, a podcast about black conspiracy theories. And more importantly, we are here to tell you about a very spectacular live episode we have coming out. It features some of your favorite comedians in the world. David, tell them who.

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So because of the holiday season and Thanksgiving we just had, why don't we give 12 things we're thankful for Rob? I like that Jules. You want me to start or? Yeah, you start. I wanna be starting off with my son. My son is a dog. I had him, I birthed him.

He was in my stomach. Camille and I always fight about who gave birth to him and I gave birth to him. Wait, like Junior, the movie Junior with fucking Schwarzenegger pregnant. Exactly. It's like that. So I'm thankful for my dog, Ralphie. He's a good pup. I haven't seen him in a couple of days. I miss him.

But I'm thankful for him, man, for just him being a good boy. I got a real daughter. I'm not throwing Rocky number one. I gotta be thankful for Lilly number two for you. I'm thankful for my health, man, especially my right ear, because my left ear is hurting right now. So it's making me really thankful that I can still hear

out of the right one. And it makes you appreciate your health. I'm appreciative of not just my health, but, you know, I'm relatively everyone in my family is healthy. That's something I'm thankful for family health, my health. What do you think? What else? I'm thankful for, you know, my past, and that's my career and everyone that gave me advice and helped me get to where I got to in my career.

Alright. Number three, now I'm thankful for Rocky. I'll throw Rocky in there now. Family health, Lilly. Now Rocky's part of the family. Rocky three. Number four, I'm thankful for my family. I mean without my family, I wouldn't be where I am and I'm thankful for their health and you know, their passion and their support. Number four, I'm thankful to be a patriot to be part of the Patriot organization. That was that was an incredible experience. And wouldn't be here with you, wouldn't have a podcast,

wouldn't have anything if, you know, I wasn't a patriot. I'm gonna say for number five for me, I'm thankful. Just had it. I wanna be precise with it. Now I forgot it because you started making me reminisce about my patriotot career to do. Yeah, you really did. I started thinking about mine like, oh, that's a good one.

But I'm thankful. For all my friends out there. You know, friends bring good times like you, Jules, you're in this category. Friends bring laughter. Friends bring hardships, you know, you're in this category. Friends bring laughter, friends bring hardships, you know, and turn them into joy. So thankful for all my friends. That's awesome.

I'm thankful for all the adversity and the failures, and the times I've messed up or made a mistake, because that's honestly when you get your real growth, And the times I've messed up or made a mistake, because that's honestly when you get your real growth is when you can sit and look at those things and really reflect on it and try to improve. That's what I'm thankful for. Wow, I really like that one. That's the truth, everything you just said.

Number six for me, I'm thankful for holidays, especially when I was a kid, it would give you time off of school. It brings families together. It brings wonderful meals together as well. So holidays, man, I'm thankful for all of them. Thanksgiving, Christmas and just whatever holiday there is now, there's like a hundred of them. And then my last, cause 6U6ME equals 12 Math Guy.

Six plus six. I got two, cause I'm thankful for my friends and the support system that I have, but I'm also thankful for, I'm thankful for friends and burgers because they're kind of I like to eat burgers with my friends. Well, and family and to really but I like burgers. I'm thankful for burgers and friends. All right.

What you're going to put I probably should have you're going to leave up fries. Yeah, I'd ever have a burger without I rather have two burgers? Good point If you're gonna take on the carbs, you might as well take it on with the burger With the bread. That's that's why I'm going with two burgers instead of the fries Can you just prove my you just? Make the bun with fries instead? So then you have fries and meat and no bread?

You know what you really could do, Rob? You really could. I've seen some shit like this. You get a waffle maker. You get a bunch of McDonald's fries. You cut them up and you kind of, you make a hash. You put them in the waffle maker and you can make like a waffle bun,

and then make a burger, and put it on the fry waffle bun. I just thought of that, because I've seen some shit like that on TikTok, Instagram, whatever we fucking watch food shit on, that's like half my popular page. So we could do that. Well, and to enhance this little-

I'm thankful for you too Rob. Thank you, thank you, but that's kind of in the to be a patriot. Yeah, yeah. Like because I was a patriot. Yeah, you were thankful to be a patriot. That hits a lot of things. That hits Tom. Yeah. I'm thankful for Tom too. Yeah, but you're thankful for him. It's to be a patriot. Yeah. Yeah. Thankful for... Does Tom get his own, does he get his own fucking number? No. All right, no, he doesn't. We already talked about him. All right. I'll bring him on. Not 12 day. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and and I got, you know, I can't forget about Camille,

but I'm going to put that in in the family category as well. She's family. I mean, I can't sit there and thank my mom, my dad, and his brother, that brother. We'd be here for the next 12 hours. But obviously, Camille is in the family list as well. Baby, I love you. I'm thankful for you. We know that.

I'm sorry that Ralphie's number one, but you would put Ralphie number one as well. I mean, you got to always put the kid first. Right. Right. Joel. Like that's kid comes first, but to enhance this little, you know, thankful moment, you know, and there's, you know, 12 total six for me, six for you.

But I think we should do a 12th of a fraction as well. And we should be thankful for. Our team, definitely our dudes on dudes team jewels. So we're thankful for our team that we have. And that's 12.2, no, 12.12 thankfuls now. So 12 thankfuls in a 12th of a fraction. I think I'm saying it right. I think you're fully a hundred. 12th of a hundredth. So it's a 12.12 thankful day,

and we're thankful for the whole entire dudes on dudes team for putting this all together so we can be up here talking dudes on dudes and talking math equations and just having a good time and just talking thankfulness. This is people thanking people. Okay. Take a second out there and go thank some people. You know, do some good. I like when Pat McAfee says that on his show. What does he say? Go tell someone, say something, something nice to someone you love. It's I think he ends his show with that. That's a good. That's a cool thing.

And that's been another episode of Dudes on Dudes. What can we do better, Rob? Oh, there's a lot that we could do better, Jules. You know, maybe tell my stories a little bit better, you know, instead. No, I know you're right. There's nothing. I'm just trying to pinpoint something. I mean, I knew it was, knew it was great storytelling already, but I just wanted to

take it to another level. I think we could, we could tighten it up on our, on our times. We can tighten it up on our times a little, but you know, I'm, I'm know I think we could just keep it going stay part of the process okay Rome went built overnight there's no there's no fucking spent like as Belichick used to say when trying to get in shape there's no magic pill there's no fucking potion you just got to put the money in the bank I don't know how Travis Hunter he might have a magic pill because that guy plays on your 14 plays a game. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, wherever you listen

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