Games with Names - Dudes on Alabama vs. Oklahoma

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

In honor of the SEC showdown between Alabama and Oklahoma this weekend, we're talking dudes from each of these historic programs. Our first dude is an electric gamer with a knack for the big play. Our next dude is has an unmatched championship pedigree at the college and pro level. Our third dude is an absolute beast that's currently on a tear for his new squad. Then we wrap up the show with Gronk and Jules sharing stories from their college days.Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free at wasabi.com. Hey, this is Kyle Brantz. You're busy, I'm busy. But every single Monday we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes. NFL, life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brant driving home from work

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I don't know who else is going to be around. I sit down and Shax right next to me as well. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be a great. I love Shack. I'm already friends with Shack and you're already fighting them. So yeah, well, I wasn't already fighting them. The fight started because because of that situation of us sitting next to each other than the interview happened

What's behind this this sign right here? What are what are behind this sign? What's behind it Jules? Oh? Oh Alright, we got some shack gummies. Oh shag gummy bears. I bet you those are extra Large gummy bears and extra delicious because if you ask Shaq diesel, he'd delicious Shaq diesel. No, look at you. Yummy Shaq diesel. It's literally Shaqalicious XL gummy bear. I called it. I call it I didn't even know. Shaqalicious. I didn't even know. So are you are you going? I'm gonna try one right now. I actually would fight Shaq in a boxing match. Here's the thing

I would never do the UFC stuff, no matter what the payment is, no matter how much money it is. But I would box someone if the money was right. No doubt about it. What's right money? There we go. That was the question I was waiting for. What's right money?

Well, you know. At least $12 million. $12 million minimum. I think we can get that done. Shaq, Rob, on an undercard of one of the next Paul fights. For $12 million. Nuttin' better.

You know, I've been fighting through some pain, you know, I've been fighting through some injuries as well. Let me tell you a little something. I've been traveling all over the place, like five flights in a week, man. I'm there, I'm over there. And people are always asking like, Yo, Cronk, how do you do it?

You're all over TV. You're there, you're there, You're this, you're that. And I got a set schedule. You know, I I'm usually doing a thing a day, but it's the travel that occupies basically all your time because you got to travel from one city to another different time zone changes. And then like my sinuses just started like glaring up. I never had sinuses before. I don't even know what sinuses that big old nose has never had. Yeah, well, it's huge. That's why everything can just pass. I can't do nothing.

Get stuffed in that. No, I can't. That's why I love having a big nose. But I mean, I was like a little stuffy, which I shouldn't be because of the big nose, but my ears were a little hurting. And I took a flight. I was going to fight night. I was all excited. And while while we were descending, my ears were a little hurting and I took a flight. I was going to fight night. I was all excited. And while while we were descending, my ears just start killing.

I mean, killing, man. I was like, ouch. They're like, just pop your, you know, pop your ears or whatever. So I'm like doing that. I now thinking about it, I think I'm making it worse. I think that's how I actually did damage to my ears, because I was. What did you do to your ear? So I fractured not not fractured.

And I mean, basically fractured, but I ruptured my ear. I ruptured from flying from flying. I mean, I was down a little bit when you rupture your ear. Does it hurt? Yeah, it was bleeding. I heard a lot, but I didn't know this yet. So I just thought, oh, I got some ear pain, whatever is going on. So I land in Dallas. It's about to be fighting.

It's like, I can't miss this night. No, I can't miss this night. No, I can't miss this night. It's going to be the one of the greatest nights. I'd never really been the fight night before we went to the Manny Pacquiao. We went to Pacquiao. Mayweather Mayweather fight. That was fun. Yeah. After the Derby, that was after the Derby. We don't really remember it.

No, we don't. But we were like 50 rows. I mean, Tom was front row, but he put us up, you know, nosebleeds, literally the nosebleeds. I mean, but at least he invited us and got us. I was not. It was a fucking awesome night. I'm not not complaining with you. Frickin Dola in the stands. That was a good time. So I, you know, I pop some Advil, just get rid of the pain.

You know, I mask it. Yeah, that's what it's all about. And then the fight night was great. You know, had a good time. Hung out with Shaq. He was sitting next to me. Talk to Jerry Jones. I love Jerry Jones, by the way. No wonder why everything is just, you know, over the top with Jerry Jones, because he brings so much energy to the table, man. He brings that juice to the table. That's what he's all about. And now I see, I see it in person now. And that's why like everything is just built up and talked about so greatly around him. He's so good at, you know, communicating, communicating with people,

marketing as well and bringing that energy to the table. And that's what it's all about. He was bringing that energy to the table. I was like, man, I love this guy. He's bringing that juice. Does he got like an aura? He's got that aura of I'm rich as shit. Yes. Yeah, that.

But also he's got that aura of let's live life. You know, let's have a good time. That's what it's all about. Now, wait up. We wanna know this. I'm I'm like the listener right now. How did this situation go down? Did someone bring you to Jerry Jones? Did Jerry Jones bring you somewhere? Did he send some guy to pick up the Gronk to come to his how does this all go down? Who did the Bones bring you somewhere? Did he send some guy to pick up the Gronk to come to his how does this all go down?

Who introduces his hand? How's his handshake? Did he have any egg McMuffins with them? What was going on? I want to hear how this went down beat for beat. Alright. Alright. Well, first off, I was there because I'm with Bill Basics. I endorse

Bill Basics, the clothing brand. Yeah. And Bill Basics represented Mike Tyson's corner. Everyone was decked out and Bill Basics. Mike Tyson had the Bill Basics shorts on throughout the fight. So the owner hit me up. He's like, hey, you want to go to the fight? You know, Netflix will hook us up. They'll give us two tickets in the front row.

I sponsored Mike Tyson. I mean, I just feel like it would be a good time and it's a good fit. And you're with Bill. I would just love to go. If you don't want to go, no problem. But I was like, hey, that's a good idea. Front row for a fight. I mean, you know, not got one of my appearances for Bill Basics as well at a fight. I mean, but then all of a sudden the fights about to start the main event. And then here just comes Jerry Jones.

I mean, he's sitting right next to Shaq. That's where his seats were. And the whole time I'm like, Shaq, hopefully those two seats right there, no one comes because you're so big. Like we need that extra room because sitting next to Shaq, I only had half of my chair. Like, and then I was like, this is what people feel like when they sit next to me. So I feel like someone sitting next to me because I'm sitting next to Shaq. Oh my God, it's too large.

You. But then here comes Jerry Jones and his wife. I was like, oh, Shaq, I think those chairs are going to be sat in. I think that's Jerry Jones's seat. And he's like, Oh, that's cool. And I was like, Yeah, that is cool. Actually, that's fine. And you're Jerry Land. He came. Yeah. Jerry World, baby.

Let me tell you, Jerry World, it's popping, man. So what did he go? Hey, old grung. How you doing? We just started talking, man. And great guy to talk to, man. And, uh, you know, he, a lot of hype to him, definitely, which, which I love. And he was just talking about all the people in the front row as well that were there and just giving everyone props, you know, just very positive. We just had some conversation. It was just cool to be in Jerry world.

And just to be in the front row, they just have that aura around of, of, of just like, Hey, we're living life. We love to have a good time. And we're here to give everyone an experience. And without Jerry World, there wouldn't have been that experience. So I just want to give him a shout out for everything that he has done, everything that he has built and everything that he has accomplished, because he has given so many people, you know, entertainment.

The value of entertainment, that's what life is all about. So thank you, Jerry, for that. Yeah, I mean, he gets a bad rap because they're the Dallas Cowboys and that's America's team and they're in the headlines all the time. But that's gotta be a cool experience to get to experience Jerry Jones not around.

That's an experience between you two. Instead of all the headlines that this you get to kind of see what he's really like. And he sounds like he's a pretty cool dude. Yeah, definitely pretty cool. And you want to know what to he was giving all his props, a lot of props to ex cowboys because I'm a tight end and Jason Whitman was right on the other side, too. He's like, hey, Jason, what is here? He's like, I love him. And then here? He's like, I love him. And then I was like, yeah, I love Jason, too.

I've had a couple of interactions with him before. I love him, but he loves his boys. He loves his cowboys like he's loyal to him. He he takes care of him. I heard he care of him. I heard he takes care of him. So I went to the fight or whatever. So I didn't know this. I didn't know I had that rupture to your guy.

So then the next day I fly to L.A. And we're descending again. And my mind, I'm I'm on my knees praying to God. Like, hey, man, just take away this pain. I don't care if there's that discomfort, if there's that ringing. Just take away that pain. And my whole brain was just in flame. I was flipping out. So I went right to urgent care. I never been to urgent care before.

Wait, so what urgent care did you go to? We landed in Orange County. So then you went to an urgent care, so what urgent care did you go to? We land in Orange County. So then you went to an urgent care, a random urgent care. Yeah. And you know, what's so funny is that they were talking about me fighting Shaq on the TV in urgent care. And I had my hoodie up wanting to cry. And I got up like, oh, how can I fight Shaq? I mean, I urge a care right now. I'm a I'm a wissy.

Oh, my God. And it was just funny thinking about it now? I'm at Urgent Care right now. I'm a, I'm a wissy. Oh my God. And it was just funny thinking about it now that I'm not feeling terrible. Could you imagine rolling up to Urgent Care and you're sitting in there in the waiting room you see fucking Rob Gronkowski with a fucking sore ear. No, I know what was cool was no one else was in Urgent Care. Not one person.

No, and the three ladies that were working there had absolutely no clue who I was either, which actually is better. Oh my God. I like it like that when I have to go, you know, and do something because then, you know, they get caught up in the moment and it just takes longer and then I just wanted to get treated. Yeah.

So I'm here. I got a ruptured ear drum, but I don't care, man. I actually play better when I'm injured because it makes you dig deeper. Hey, you got a podcast. It really does. Got a podcast. Really does does. Let's go baby. Let's go ready Yeah, welcome to dudes with dudes. I'm Jules. Hey Jules. It's dudes on dudes. What I said You're done dude. You said dudes with dudes Yeah, yeah, you did. Well, welcome to dudes on dudes. I am corrected. That's Gronk. I'm Jules.

And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And boy, do we have a crazy show today. Since the Oklahoma Alabama game is this week and we wanted to have a little theme of this Dudes on Dudes, we're going to do Oklahoma Alabama guys. What are we talking about today? Well, it's an ambiguous tease of dudes let me tell you that and we're talking about the number one pick in the 2019 NFL draft. I've watched his twitch stream, kid is good. I think we should go over to the Alabama side. Yeah we're fair. We're very fair. This guy though was never fair

on a goal line play or he was never fair on a second and goal in the Super Bowl where he had to make a life-changing play to the hugest Cavs I've ever seen other Alabama road-tide Crimson Tide. Currently in talks of winning the MVP. Offensive player of the year they don't give that to running backs. Currently gonna be on the best Russian team statistically statistically statistically. See I got to read really fast because he has so many stats I want to make sure we get through it and we wrap it up with our wildest college stories. You got to read really fast because he has so many stats I want to make sure we get through it and we wrap it up with our wildest college stories you got to stick around to the end roll tide and boomer sooner

dudes on dudes is a production of I heart radio first guy will be doing today in this Oklahoma Alabama rivalry is it it really a rivalry? It's about to be. It's about to because Oklahoma what? They just move into the SEC. Can you explain what's going down in college? Because I'm not truly up to date with all these new conferences with teams moving from one conference to another. So can you just explain to everyone out there? Because I thought Oklahoma was in the big 12, But now you're saying they're in the SEC. Yeah. Can you update me, please? Yeah. Conference realignment this year because of the bracket.

There's going to be a 16 game playoff and a lot of money. There's going to be a lot of money. So now UT Texas is in the SEC. Oklahoma is in the SEC, which is outrageous, but also freaking cool because it's not a rivalry yet, but this could turn into a rivalry. Oklahoma versus Alabama is something we rarely see, but we're gonna see it now every year. So I think it's awesome.

The money's gonna be big for these conferences, but the matchups, man, college football has been so exciting this year, watching Oregon get to play Ohio State and these teams that you only got to see once every blue moon play each other in like bowl games that now like you're getting to see powerhouse top five programs play each other that you didn't get to see before.

I think it's awesome. That is awesome. Thank you for clarifying that. The University of Arizona is now in the Big 12. I feel like they replaced, you know, Oklahoma. I went to the University of Arizona. Here's a little fun fact. The University of Arizona, want the University of Oklahoma last year in the sun ball, giving us one of our best bowl wins of, you know, the history of University of Arizona. Hell, let's go wild. Give it up to the wild castats. Wildcat not doing so great this year, but you know how to bring up some positives since we're talking about Oklahoma and we beat Oklahoma last year.

But let's get back to it. Let's talk about Kyler Murray, the number one pick in the 2019 NFL draft. Ladies and gentlemen, here he is. Kyler is a good looking dude. I mean, look at that headband. He's slick. He's like looks like an athlete. That's right. looking dude, man. Look at that headband. He's slick. He's like, looks like an athlete. That's for sure.

Yeah, swaggy. That's it right there. He's like real swaggy. He's a swaggy captain. He is. Yeah, he really is. Let's start the clock. What's AI gonna say about him?

All right. Kyler Murray. We're gonna start with AI. AI. The AI description of Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray is a dynamic NFL quarterback known for his elite dual threat ability, excelling both as a passer and a runner. AI so far is totally spot on.

Spot on. Drafted first overall by the Arizona Cardinals in 2019, he has earned a Pro Bowl selection and offensive rookie of the year honors. Wow. Murray has thrown for over 13,000 yards and 84 touchdowns in his first four seasons while also rushing for over 2000 yards and 23 touchdowns. Joker makes plays. That's dynamic right there. Joker makes plays before the NFL. He stared. Yeah, he starred.

I was I was going to say stared. Well, it's it's I've done that. Yeah before the NFL he started at Oklahoma Jules he probably was also staring at things as well in this fan and you know in the in the You know bleachers and then up in the stadium Oklahoma, right? Yeah, they got some beautiful ladies out here. So he was probably staring. Yeah, that's just what I hear. All right, back to it. Before the NFL, he starred, starred at Oklahoma,

where he won the Heisman Trophy in 2018 and after transferring from Texas A&M. See, I didn't know that. Texas A&M. How long was he at Texas A&M for? I think two years. You don't even know. Let's get back to 2015. Just one year and then he transferred to Oklahoma.

Off the field, Murray is known for his calm demeanor, love for video games, and the rare distinction of being drafted in both the NFL and MLB. Fucking AIs got him liking video games. AIs on point. AIs on point. They are on point. AI is kind of a video game. So they definitely need to get that in.

Yeah, it's just crazy that even computers know that. All right. What team was he drafted by Jules? What do you Arizona Cardinals? No, no, no, in the MLB. Oh, in the MLB? By the MLB. MLB team, nope.

Was it? All right, I'll give you a clue. They're moving in the next year or two to a different. Oakland A's. Yes. Oakland A's your hometown. Yeah. Oakland A's. Now, I wasn't an A's fan, Rob.

I wasn't a fan, but you're a Giants fan. I was a Giants fan, but the A's hat was always cool. And I mean, I went to one A's game and I think there was 14 people there. Well, I know it's crazy as there was 14 people there and they went to the playoffs. Yeah, they did go to the playoffs. Wait, this year? No, the year I went, I was like a little kid. But there was 14 people there, like in the last three years at every game.

And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, we're going to, you know, go to Vegas. Which makes sense. You're you know, you're getting 14 people a game. You need to keep the organization going, the money flowing. It's a business. And then all of a sudden, everyone starts complaining that they're moving. It's like, wait a second. You're not even going to any of the games.

Yeah, but Oakland, it's a tough thing in Oakland. You're from there, so let's hear it. The city doesn't wanna, they don't wanna do new stadium. I feel bad for the people in Oakland because they've lost all their teams. Raiders aren't there no more, and they and the A's are leaving they love their sports it's it's unfortunate but like you said it's a business you

know what's going on what Steph Curry stealing all the fandom well they left too they used to be in Oakland and then they went to San Francisco so like everyone has left Oakland I didn't know that yeah why did they switch they switched probably what like five years ago really what just like over the So like everyone has left Oakland. I didn't know that. Yeah. Why did they switch? They switched probably what? Like five years ago? Really? What?

Just like over the bridge? Yeah, literally. Like five miles away. Probably like three. Three miles away. Dang. What's going on in Oakland? Marshawn, come on.

You got to run for governor in Oakland. We got to get. We need you, Marshawn. Mayor would, you know. Mayor. Governor. I'll take mayor. I don't think there's a governor of a city. there's governor of a state yeah well we need him to run

from mayor of Oakland and actually Marshall has a podcast with them all right back to Kyler Murray ladies and gentlemen all right here's some fun facts AI spitting out fun facts now Kyler Murray is the first athlete to be drafted in the first round of both the NFL and MLB stud he has a deep love for video games and is an avid player of Call of Duty, often streaming on platforms like Twitch dialed. Kid has dialed. I've seen him. I've seen him shoot out a bunch of sweaty little tryhards. I've watched his Twitch stream.

Kid is good. The kid is dialed. And he I mean, he's accurate on the field. He's accurate on the map. Is he like as good as like one of those fucking video gamers? Like what's his name? Like Ninja? You know, Ninja? Yeah, I know Ninja. Yeah. The face playing guy. Yeah. Is he like in that level?

He competes. He plays with them and he and he holds his own. I think Kyler Murray kind of plays his game like after a video game too. Like, you know, Madden, like the quarterback runs all over the place. That's like what Kyler Murray does of plays his game like after a video game too. Like, you know how Madden, like the quarterback runs all over the place. That's like what Kyler Murray does. Maybe transfers. I mean, he is a video game player. So if you're like some like 5'10 high school kid that had Madden, you would put up all the stats. You'd make your guys still 5'10, but you'd put all your Madden guys stats up to 99 at 5'10.

And that's what Kyler Murray looks like on the football field. Like 99 speed, 99 arm, 99 quickness. What about his elusiveness? When we were watching the film, you think he looks like Johnny Manziel? He does. He kind of looks like Manziel when he was in college at Texas A&M. They both started at Texas A&M. Yeah, they both like run kind of straight up. They're both the same height and their feet both like pitty patter like that. But Kyler Murray is at another level of speed and elite quickness and kind of like take Johnny Manziel,

what he was doing in college, and then you throw him on the car nose and make him into Kyler Murray. And they kind of played a similar way. Similar. Similar. Similar, I just think Kyler is in a whole not another catas- Oh, no, 100%. The speed. But I- But they had the same body type. They did- Same movement, same throwing form. The same movement, the same sprint movement. I can see

you were watching in the sauna. You were like, look, he looks like Johnny Menzel. I'm like, kind of does look like Johnny Menzel. All right. One more fun fact, despite being one of the shortest starting quarterbacks in NFL history at 5'10". How tall are you, Jules? I'm 5'10". All right, so he's the same exact height as you. Can you imagine yourself behind, you know, the line of 5'10", throwing passes? You know, when you watch his film, he's got such great feet.

He'll take like a seven step drop out of a freaking shotgun snap and dart it. Like he has really good, I couldn't imagine it. That's why he's a one of one. This guy's freaky because like he's five, 10. He doesn't play small. He could play within the pocket, but he changes the game. He moves the pocket a lot. But sometimes he makes those big plays in the pocket

because he has such an arm. I really think he's like a madden player. He's almost unfair. Like when you played GoldenEye when you were a kid and someone would be odd job remember odd job I do he was tiny and he was kind of like wider Yeah, but he would just like crawl all over the place events Yeah, and you can never see and he had automatic headshot every time Yeah, automatic headshot because his gun level was higher. So it was so much

He had the golden gun at all times because he was so accurate. I'm telling you, I'm Murray's hot job, bro. Unfair. Yeah. Yeah. Kyler Murray, he's accurate on the move. He has exceptional vision, even being at 510, just watching his film. I mean, he can make every throw in the game. He can do the deep ball, you know, lead the wide receiver so he can get underneath it. So the receiver can turn his jets on and go out and get the ball and outrun the defender. Also the back shoulder too. That's what I was really impressed with Kyler Murray was his back shoulder throws.

I mean, half of the deep balls were back shoulder. The way just how quick his feet are is just incredible. It's like, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like even when he's dropped a little speeding, even when he's back piloting in the pocket, but boom, boom, boom. And he's right when he gets like his seventh step and he plants in his back foot, boom, the ball is out. And he's reading the defenders like no other and gets it out to the guy that he needs to get it out to.

So he can do it all. He can do it all in the pass game. Then he can do it all in the run game. He anticipates really great also because of his height. Like you watch him and he'll throw before a guy's out of his break, like it's a perfect throw. Wasn't he a Heisman winner? Yeah, he won the Heisman.

He won the Heisman. He won the Heisman. He dominated in college. When he was at Oklahoma, they didn't win at all, though. They weren't national champions. No, they were in the mix of it. They're in the mix. Lincoln Riley, I believe, right? Lincoln Riley over there.

Are you a man of Kyler? I never met Kyler before, man. Never met him in my life. Not even been in the same vicinity as him before. Usually, like with every athlete, met him real quick or been like at a party with them Like this is one guy just never seen maybe he's just so quick I just just never seen him when or at the party. Maybe he don't go out. He's back at home gaming Yeah, he's playing those games. What is she all duty all duty? I mean, he's on phase clan

I think he joined phase clan, right? He partnered with Call of Duty. Yeah, he was on like Call of Duty. Call of Duty. I mean he's on FaZe Clan. He joined FaZe Clan, right? He partnered with Call of Duty. He was on like Call of Duty, I think Black Ops 6 ad campaign. I mean I was a Call of Duty guy back in the day. I'm actually the guy that loves to play Dal Reese. Zombies. Yeah. On Call of Duty. You ever play it? I mean I played a little Zombies. The level? Dal Reese? Oh Zombies is my favorite. That was a while back. I used to run home my fourth year in the NFL and I used to run home right at 330 right when we got out of meetings. I run home and I started playing zombies and we started at 345 and we would probably play until about 930 at night.

And like you would get the level like 38 and it takes like three hours and then you get killed and then you just get so mad. You would restart and then you would have to get back to level 38. It takes another, you know, three hours to do it, but you got to get past level 38 this time. So you're like automatically playing zombies six, seven hours every night. I was like that with like when Fortnite first came out. I mean, we all like the game and it's a it's a good outlet for an athlete because it keeps you out of trouble.

Honestly, if you go home and game, I know he gets a bad rap and I thought it was kind of crazy that they had to put in his contract. Like he had to watch film and stuff. You don't want that from your quarterback, but this is a new generation quarterback. You know what I know. What a guy does on his downtime,

if he gets all his work in, is whatever. That's like the least thing you gotta worry about too. Like the guy's playing too many video games. Like let's put it in his contract that he has to study this much amount of film before he can leave the building or whatever it was, because he's going to go home. Like, imagine if the guy was going out, you know, getting in trouble out at the club till 3 a.m. And that's a problem.

I mean, he's going home to play video games and video games. Like when you get lost in video games, it's actually like one of the best feelings in the world. Like when I was playing zombies, I'm telling you, like nothing else mattered in my life. Like if I had a bad game that week, it didn't matter. I had like 400 kills. I killed 400 zombies. I'm saving the world. Like it didn't matter what football I was going.

It's an outlet for you to hang with the boys, talk with your friends, like not have to think about stuff. It's a outlet for you to hang with the boys, talk with your friends, like not have to think about stuff. It's a way for you to get lost. And I understand it. So LeBron, just when he came out, he's a top 100 Madden player. I guess so. I mean, that's his claim to fame of playing Madden. He doesn't need any claim to fame, but claim the fame of playing Madden. I don't know if he's really a top 100

player. He's never posted anything. Usually if you're that good, you're always posting. So, is he posting? Has he posted? He posts all the time. Is someone playing for him? I just feel like, I just feel like

he's not a top 100. I bet you LeBron's dirty. Who wins LeBron vs Kyler? I don't know. Who wins? I think Kyler Murray wins because Kyler Murray had, you know, a cause in his contract that he has to study Film before he can go home because he wanted to play video games that bad So who wins in 2k LeBron or Kyler? Kyler?

Do you think Kyler is beating LeBron hands down when you're that good at video games? When you're that good at Call of Duty? His finger dexterity he is. Exactly it transfers over to every video game Yeah, when you're good at one when you're the best at one you can play every other video game He's like a He's like a He's like a He's like a He's like a He's like a He's like a

He's like a He's like a He's like a He's like a He's like a He's like a He's like a 26. 26. He started out like 25. So he's been using all those little fingers on all those little computers. Like, and he's probably keyboard guy. He's a, I bet you he's keyboard as fuck. Does he have a clutch gene? He does. He had that hell Mary, right? Yeah. You have

that hell Mary to D hop. Yeah. Does he have a playoff win? I think he has a clutch gene, but like he doesn't have a playoff win. You got it. You got it. You can't have clutch gene in the NFL until you have, but he has like a clutch gene in regular season. Like he makes plays. Like the clutch gene is him making plays at any given time. He does not have that clutch gene and getting that team to the next level. Yeah. I mean, you know how hard it is in the NFL to get that to the next level. It's hard to win. There's other great quarterbacks, other great teams out there, but he does have a clutch gene to make big plays. And you want to know something else about the Arizona Cardinals.

They're not a consistent team. They're not going to the playoffs. He doesn't have a playoff win, but they're a team that can upset any other team. Any given Sunday, dangerous. They are the dangerous team work. And it's because of Kyler Murray, if everyone plays well on their team and Kyler's got it going, they're hard to beat. Going through coach and change now. You know, you're trying to redo the roster, revamp the roster.

It's tough. They got some guys, Marvin Harrison Jr. I love them. I mean, those two are going to be a duel. I know, but they've been struggling to get him the ball. How about that? Hail Mary, the Hail Murray in 2020 COVID season. See what you did there. Hail Mary. Hail Mary.

Where he went back and he threw it and D hop came down within the you got that picture of D Hobbs, big old hands snagging that football. What a great it was voted the play of the year that year. Was an ESPYs or something like what? 11 seconds left, 43 yards. You know, the throw was and it was to what? Beat the bill. Yeah, they were down by how many?

They were down 20, 83 to 9 in the third. In the third and they came back. But getting back to last play. What's the key to stopping a last play Hail Mary? Well, first off, it has to be a Hail Mary because if it's not and you put a guy like myself in, then the Miami miracle happens. I mean, open field tackle. Yeah. Open field tackle. That's not a Hail Mary though. So let's get back in the Hail Mary. The kid, the key to the fat, you know, how Mary my quads were hurting that day. Okay.

They were tired. I had a couple catches that game. It was a bad year. Okay. We won the Superbowl that year. It's okay. 6.6 guy in open field with 30. That's so hard. You can't do that. I wanted to fricking tackle him, though. That would have been the highlight of my career. What do you think you had to do to tackle him? Not slip.

I kind of slipped on my. You got to scallop. As Scotty O'Brien would say, you got to scallop. Scallop and gather. Don't stop your feet. Keep your feet moving and then break. Well, I didn't do any of that. Let's get back to the Hail Mary,

because I've defended one of them before. And the key to defending a last second play is, first off, you got to get like a wide receiver, the biggest guy on your team out there that's athletic, kind of like a Randy Moss. He used to be Moss and then turned

into Rob. Turned into myself. And you just got to go up there. You don't you're not even trying to, you know, intercept the ball. You just want to get a hand on it.'t you're not even trying to, you know, intercept the ball. You just want to get a hand on it. If you get a hand on it, you know, play is going to be completely over and you're trying to smack it down as well.

You don't want to smack it up in the air because then it can go anywhere and then anyone can catch it at any given time. You know, just go up, jump as high as you can, kind of try to push another defender down because they're not really going to call flag on that play. I mean, it's kind of like the known rule on a Hail Mary and just swap that thing. Sorry, you can kind of like you're swatting a fly out of the air like. And then games over game is I just got an epiphany of like Rob playing beach volleyball and just slamming a ball down in someone's face. You play.

Bronx, I can I love beach volleyball. You're probably nasty. You know, I got to play more beach volleyball. I don't play me either. I mean, I love it. I used to play. I mean, I played probably five times in my life and I loved it every time. Beach volleyball is cool. But the thing about beach volleyball is like the competition is always real. Yeah, because it's not like you're going to go out there

and it's going to be beginners, you know, playing beach volleyball. It's always people that are like legit volleyball players that legitimately play on a daily basis or they formerly played in college. You got to be ready. You got to practice. Like you do one on one for a little bit. You keep your head on a swivel or else you're going to get the ball spiked right off right off your nose. Yeah. Meet the fall.

No, what's that movie? Meet the parents. No, where that volleyball is going to become your best friend. Oh, yeah. Castaway. Castaway. Yeah, castaway. You and that volleyball. We should put you in the Olympics in four years. Start training you for volleyball.

Why would you really hear it? Everyone else is already. Everyone else is six, seven, six, eight, and they're really good at volleyball. Well, why would I be on the team? Oh, I know why I can stand on my third leg and then I'm seven, two. And then I just put my hands over the nut. Yeah.

You'd be a great blocker. Yeah, great blocker. Time. All right, well, what kind of dude is Kyler Murray? I mean, Joel, it's been 21 minutes. I know. And we still haven't gotten down to the point. Is he a stud?

You know, is that thotticism? Is football IQs there? Is pedigree of the game is there? Is he a freak, which he kind of is a freak, just how fast he is and how elusive he is. He's freaky. 100 million percent for especially his height and what he was gifted with dudes. Do you know dudes do them? Didn't he? Didn't he had to do a trip or something in L.A. recently?

Possibly. Yeah. Trip where, well, he invited like 10 of his teammates out. Yeah. Got a chef, got some massages. Renting a mansion in Bel Air. It's like the fresh prince of Bel Air. Team bonding. That's tight.

We never really did team bonding trips. No, we didn't. We did here and there, Montana. We would do like random routes. We would do random route team trips. It was Tom just calling you up. Hey, let's run some routes It's the offseason Let's make sure we still got it and we can maintain and it'll just be out of nowhere and we would do it wherever we are wherever UCLA

The frickin grass field in the middle of the woods in frickin, Massachusetts The thing that pissed me off though, like Tom would find like a 60 yard patch of grass that's like, oh, it's grass. We can just run routes here. And sometimes it'd be the most uneven grass and you're over here like, Tom, we got to sprint on this stuff.

We're like, you know, this is like put a Formula One car on a fucking gravel pit. I mean, what are we doing here? Yeah. You know what I mean? This is not what we're, you know. Or a monster truck in the Grand Canyon. Yeah.

He's not, it doesn't belong. It doesn't belong. The Grand Canyon's gonna eat up the monster truck. That's the only time the monster truck loses. But yeah, Team Bar, that's real, I like that. I like hearing that. So that means he's kinda dude's duty. Yeah, he is a dude's dude.

All right, all right. Especially to all the video gamers too. On a count of three, you say what you think he is and I'll say what I think he is. All right. Ready? One, two, three, whiz. Freak!

What'd you say? I said freak, and you said whiz. I said whiz. But he can only be one. So he's not a freak or he is a way. I mean, he is a way. I mean, he's a dual sport athlete. So obviously you got to be super smart to know the inside and out of both games

and to be that I bet you he could write that freaky as well. That's pretty cool, right? All right, code. Yeah, but that plays video games on keyboard. Yeah, we're talking athleticism, though, athletic wise. Yeah, he's he's a freak. I was a football player, but he's, though, athletic wise. Yeah, he's a freak. He's a freak. But he's not like seven feet tall.

Yeah, you're right. And everyone that's 5'10 is that fast and can move like that. At the quarterback position, he's elite. If he was moving like that at my size, then that's freaky. Because of his athletic speed and his his ability to throw he's so innovative he's part of that whole innovative running quarterback that like everyone's trying to get now and you convinced me jewels let's try again now you ready one two three ways there we go he's a freak no you said ways didn't you you said freak, didn't you? You said Freak? Yeah. You did?

I screamed Wiz so loud I didn't hear you. So that means Wiz wins. No, he's a Wiz. He's a Wiz. Why you gotta mess with me like that? We'll be right back after this quick break. Hey, this is Kyle Brantz. You're busy.

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Yeah, we're fair. We're fair. We're very fair. This guy though was never fair on a goal line play, or he was never fair on a second and 10 in the Super Bowl or second and goal in the Super Bowl, where he had to make a life-changing play to create and tackle Marshawn Lynch. This guy had the hugest calves I've ever seen. Next guest, Dante Hightower. Dante. I mean Dante Hightower. Dante. Dante Hightower. Dante I mean Dante Hightower. Dante Hightower. Julian even I know it's Dante. I'll get into it after AI. And what does AI have to say

about Dante because we know him. Is the AI synopsis. Obviously I'm improving my speaking skills because I couldn't say synopsis on our very first episode Julianna and now I can. So this is what's so great about dudes on dudes is that we're getting smarter as well, being complete dudes overall. Synopsis. Synopsis. All right, here we go, the synopsis on Dante Hightower. I'll leave you with that this week in Fox.

He's a former NFL linebacker. Startin' the clock. Dante Hightower is a former NFL linebacker known for his leadership and versatility on the field. A two-time pro bowler, Hightower played his entire nine-year NFL career with the New England Patriots, the same amount of years I played with the New England Patriots, nine. Helping the team win three Super Bowl titles, just like myself helping the New

England Patriots win three Super Bowl titles. I love this guy already. Prior to his NFL career, he was a standout at the University of Alabama where he was a key figure and winning two BCS national championships This freaking guy is a winner has how I know five Championships at the highest level two in college three in the NFL over what over a 13 14 year period I win ridiculous winner winner chicken dinner. That's for sure born and raised in Lewisburg, Tennessee. Oh The the Vols must not like him. I know, that's crazy. I don't know why he didn't go to Tennessee.

Wow. Maybe he didn't want to go to Mayo's Footsteps. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Shots fired. All right. Hightower was known for his high football IQ and relentless work ethic. After retiring in 2022, Hightower joined the Patriots coaching staff while also pursuing

business ventures, spending time with his family and engaging in charitable work, earning admiration for his calm and thoughtful demeanor off the field. Oh, that's my guy. He is calm and does have that demeanor of being relaxed, but he will rip your freaking head off. Face off. He'll break your arm off. What's the first thing that comes to mind when you think about Dante? I'm scared of Dante Hightower, but the first thing that comes to mind right now

is I'm looking at the picture of him In high school and he looks exactly like Matthew Slater, but with big ears like elf ears So if you can put that up, please and show everyone he's he was Matthew Slater in high school without ears I just looking at the picture pretty pretty Slate dog More shots fired at former teammates pew pew. We love shooting shots at our former teammates. This is about Dante. Oh, this is about Dante. Yeah, but Dante Hightower was such a better linebacker than Niko. He can handle our fire. Yeah. He can handle our shots. There's both linebackers, but alright, back to Dante.

Alright, here's my story. This guy I was scared of actually. He was what? First round pick, number one. He was a very good linebacker. He was a very good linebacker. He was a very good linebacker. He was a very good linebacker. He was a very good linebacker. He was a very both linebackers, but all right, back to Dante. All right. Here's my story. This guy I was scared of, actually, he was what? First round pick New England. He's like top top 15 or so. When you have a linebacker, that's 25th,

six. What is he? Six, four, six, three, you know, two, sixty, two, sixty huge and can move like he's a little guy. I'm scared of those guys. You want to know why? Because they got that leverage. He's not a little guy. You're just massive.

No, I'm scared of those. He's fucking huge. I don't know why I said little guy. I'm scared of those big guys that are in the frame. Why? Of of of six, you know, one to six, four and are wide as well. Like you just said, because they got that leverage and they can get underneath me. And then that's when I lose.

And I don't like that. You will see. I got to outsmart these guys. So with Dante, I had to try to outsmart him on the football field and going very soon in practice. And that was just to not get touched by him, you know, try to run away from him because he was always going to win versus me in camp. I was a rookie. I was coming off that ankle injury. I wasn't a rookie. He was a rookie. I was coming off that ankle injury when, uh, you know, that guy in Baltimore broke my ankle, paulardly, paulard. Yeah. Very, very, very, so I didn't really heal that well that whole year. I

was at South Padre Island, spring break, my cast and everything came back. I pretended my ankle was good. It really wasn't, you know, but don't tell Bill, don't listen to that. Okay. That you've done things like that too, Joel. So that's going to make me feel better. It's just saying that, but, uh, I'm, I can't get open. I'm not doing this well in training camp.

My backs are going to go out on me because I'm compensating. I'm just making excuses right now. Why Dante, you know, dominated me when he was a rookie. But this guy, when they're that wide, they're built that strong. You could just tell he had that presence of yo, I ain't gonna move that guy. No one's really gonna move that guy being 6'3", 260 pounds. And I accidentally like caught him one time running around. I tried going around him and like we caught like shoulders or something. I can't exactly pinpoint what it was.

And like it was kind of like a cheap shot on him, but it was totally accidental. And I kept. Yeah, it wasn't a chip. It was like he was at the linebacker position, kind of stepping up for the run. And I kind of ran into I think I kind of face massed him or something. And and then like yanked it a little bit.

He turned around and he was furious. He was vicious. And I was like, oh man, he took it to a whole nother level. The next play versus me and I literally learned I will never piss off Dante high tower ever again. You got to piss. You must have done something crazy because I never really seen him pissed off. Yeah, he was mad, man. He was mad.

You guys are freak. You can't really block them in the run game. You can't really stop them in the past game either if he's rushing at you because he can move so well, they can get around you or he can bull rush you. So the guy, man, freak of an athlete, no doubt about that. And I swear, if you go to a barbecue with him, he'll eat like 15 pounds of like ribe eye steak and brisket burgers. Where'd you see him? Whenever at those team outings that we have. And like it turns in the muscle.

It's straight muscle. Yeah. Like, you know how the Wolverine character or whatever and like the hawk, like they just, you know, in those movies, like whatever they do, they just, just you know turn into the creature that they are like That's what he did when he ate that food. He just turned into Dante Hightower, dude Well, I mean his nickname was Zeus which is like huge huge Greek. I remember like really he was a rookie And I was already telling him that he's gonna sign a hundred million dollar deal at the middle linebacker position Did you yeah, how'd you know because I? Because I was facing for someone like this guy. Freaking good. He good. He can move cover, can, you know, stop the run.

He can do it all. I mean, and he's scary. He looks like the predator out there because he has dreads like early in his career. He didn't. But when he got dreads and you're that big and wide, Dante looks like he has two houses for calves. His calves are so damn big. He has the largest calf. I used to tell him that every day I walked by.

He'd be in his sandals, we'd be walking by each other in the hallway, I'd see his calf. I'm like, bro, can you fucking ease up on the calf raises? Jesus Christ. It wasn't the calf raises, it was the brisket. It was probably the brisket. That was just called right to his calf. Right to his calf. Right to it. It went right to his calf.

And Dante was a smart ass football player. Smart, very smart football player. And I remember going to his house once and I walked over there and he like you said, he's just like he's a quiet, he's kind of quiet, but he's vicious. And I go to his house and I'm like, is that a fucking video game station with keyboard and mouse?

Dante Hightower is a keyboard guy in the video games. I go, what the fuck is this, bro? He goes, what, bro? Whatever, you know, he's like a whiz. He's a fucking whiz. This guy, he's insane on Call of Duty, too. Don't don't let him don't let him trick you and think he's not. He's a fucking gamer. He used to, he was really good.

Well, that's why he's a football coach now for the New England Patriots. Because you got to be smart. You got to be a whiz in order to be a coach. How you think he's doing in coaching? I feel like he's doing fine. How you think they're feeling over there? I feel like Dante's always feeling good, man. He's never down.

He's an even keel guy. feeling good, man. He's never down. He's never even kill guy. He is, man. He really is. He's the guy that had the ultimate pass from Bill Belichick. He always had. That's how scary he was. Coach was even scared of him. I don't think coaches coach loved him. He wasn't scared of him. He loved him because he was he was a well built football player and he played the game how it should be played They'll always love the guys. Yeah, he did. We're offense. That's why we never got love jewels. Who else had the bill pass basically I know

A male had that pass. He could do whatever he wanted to do and build but that's fine You know Devin Belichick McCordy. Mm-hmm. I mean, that's one of his sons I think that's one of his sons. I think that's his actual middle name now. Who else was another one in past? We mean like, you know, if they didn't want to practice or if like their, you know, hamstring was a little sore, they'd be like, oh, coach, I can't. I can't go to a coach.

No problem. Just hang out in the training room and get it rubbed on. You know, no, I was thinking more of the past. You know how Bill's been over here testing the guys around his show? Like, hey, who's this guy? Who's that guy? Well, for the offense, he'd be like, hey, Rob, what's the exotic front of the defense that you expect to see on third and two? And Rob's sitting there like going through the, uh, what the fuck?

Hey, Devinvin what color is the offense that we're playing if they're at home green yes good job like that's the past we're talking about or like whatever you give a question to like the defensive line like do these guys like to run the ball or pass the ball? They got Derek Henry. I'm like, coach, I'm on offense. I think they like to run the ball. God.

Hey, Edelman, what is the punter? What school did he go to? I mean, that's the pass we're talking about. And Dante got that, Bill loved Dante. And it was deserving. Dante was, he was one of the alphas He sat in the Teddy bruski locker. Mm-hmm when you walked into the I think it was either the Teddy bruski or the Willie Mack locker they'd always put those two guys in cuz when you had to walk in the locker room

You had to walk by those guys. He was one of those guys. I mean he was he was a great teammate Where would you rank him as an all-time, you know, Patriot player on the defensive side of the ball? I mean, he's he was a great teammate. Where would you rank him as an all time, you know, Patriot player on the defensive side of the ball? I mean, he's got to be up there. I mean, we wouldn't have the Super Bowl if he didn't make that second down the second down goal line. That's very true. What you said, we would have never won that Super Bowl. That Malcolm Butler catch would have never happened because Marshawn Lynch would have scored already.

And everyone talks about, hey, why didn't Marshawn Lynch get, you know, the handoff or why didn't they hand off the ball? Well, it was a play prior to that, wasn't it? Yeah. Wasn't the exact play before? Well, Marshawn Lynch did have the ball. And what happened one on one with Dante Hightower? And you never seen Marshawn Lynch never go down ever one on one on one. And literally Dante Hightower is the only guy that can, you know, possibly do that. And he knocked him right down and he stopped him in order to the next play,

in order to get to the next play that Malcolm Butler had that interception. So they already gave it to Marshawn Lynch to have that chance to score. So without Dante Hightower, we would have never had that, you know, first Superbowl in New England, no doubt about it. And then another big play that he has had, you know, in his career was that, um, strip sack in the game that unfortunately I didn't play in because my back got blown out when I went up to seam because Tom threw me up to seam earlier that year. And then I got leveled and lost a lung and back and I still came back the next

year. But yeah. And that Superbowl versus Atlanta, that strip sack man, just continue the domination of the comeback. That was an incredible play. He comes through in the clutch at all times. I still, who blew your back out? Earl Thomas. We're not going that deep about who blew my back out, Joe. It was a dude though.

It was a dude. His name was Earl Thomas. The dude's a torpedo. Yeah, a torpedo. What was a big play though. It was a dude. His name was Earl Thomas. He's a torpedo. Yeah, torpedo. What was a big play that you can recall? The guy always had a big play when the team needed it. I mean, you go back into college and the national championship, you had a serve sack. That's the kind of player Dante was.

Fucking when your team needed a big play, a big moment, he was super versatile. I remember him. We beat middle linebacker and we put him at defensive end sometimes because he could rush a passer. Like he just was big time player to make big time plays. That is a huge contribution why I have three Super Bowl rings, you have four, that's a huge part of it. I mean, we wouldn't have been there without him. You know, I'd always call him,

if you see how his name's spelled, it's don't A with apostrophe. And so I used to call him Dante. Very technical that is. No, I used to call him a Dante and not locker. And he go, Jules, don't you fucking call me Dante. I go, why not Dante? He goes, cause if you fucking call me all these white people

out here in Boston, they're gonna be calling me Dante. Don't you fucking call me Dante. My name is Dante. I'm like, all right, Dante. Jules, Jules, even I knew calling me Dante. Don't you fucking call me Dante. My name is Dante. I'm like, all right, Dante. Jules, Jules, even I knew it was Dante. I know. You must have had a bad day. You must have had a bad day.

I knew it was Dante. You must have had pretty hard that day. I just wanted to call him Dante to make vulnerable time. Well, what kind of dude is he? What kind of dude is Dante? What kind of dude is Dante? I mean of dude is kind of dude is Danta? I mean, Dante, don't know. You're getting me on that.

I'm telling you, don't break him. Whatever you do, if you see Dante, do not call him Dante. He'll get really mad at you and he'll blame it on me. They'll fucking blame it on me. Don't call him Dante. What kind of dude is Dante? I mean, he's he looks like a goddamn stud. He does look like a stud. He's a freak, too. I mean, he's he looks like a goddamn stud. He does look like a stud. He's a freak, too. I mean, he's got house for calves.

I feel like he's he hits. He's a dog categories. He's a dude's dude. He's a dude. And he's always. Yeah, he hits them all on three. Let's let's see which one on three. Oh, I got to think about it real quick.

All right. I'm going to go. Yeah, because he's all five. So let me try to pinpoint it down to one on three. One, two, three. I think he's a stud. I think he's a whiz. That's why he's a coach now. He is a coach. Yeah. And he knew the game of football like no other.

I mean, he's got a national championship. Yes. He has five, you know, championships. Yeah. Like you just said. And like he was a first round linebacker. He had a lot of hype coming in and he backed up all the hype He did you like you know, he's a lot. I mean, he's a freak too. I mean he made big plays in big situations He's got a pedigree. He's got football IQ and he looks like a Greek God But making big plays in a big game is a whiz, Jules, because he knew when to make that play,

the turning around for the team. Does that make sense? Yeah, he is like a, but I would, I would say though, we're trying to categorize it into what like he most represents. A whiz is a guy that doesn't have the freak abilities and they get through because they're so smart and they're not getting through because they're a freak or a stud. So that's how you become a true whiz. So therefore he was getting through as a freak and a stud and a dog.

So he can't technically be a whiz because being a whiz didn't really lead him to where he needs to be maybe now as a coach Going back to that. I'm gonna have to categorize him as a stud or a freak So let's go let's go back at it again and try again ready one two three stud For sure a stud 100% he saw his calves you just it would scream stud University of Alabama another Alabama Roadtide Crimson Tide currently plays for the Baltimore Ravens Baltimore freaking Raven is currently in

Talks of winning the MVP right offensive player of the year. They don't give that to running backs. Is currently going to be on the best rushing team statistically. Right. Statistically, statistically in NFL history with Lamar Jackson. Are they on pace? They got it. They got to be on pace. Derek freaking number 22. Henry, the Baltimore Ravens. Let's get to the synopsis AI Derek Henry standing at six foot three inches and weighing

247 pounds is a dominant NFL running back Renowned for his rare combination of size speed and power making him one of the most feared rushers in the league He has a mass over 10,000 Russian yards and 98 touchdowns in his career earning multiple Pro Bowl selections and the 2020 NFL offensive player of the year award Jesus in high school Derek set the national record for career rushing yards when astonishing 12,000 124 yards at Ulee High School in Florida averaging 250 yards per game See, I got to read really fast because he has so many stats I want to make sure we get through it at the University of Alabama Henry won the Heisman Trophy and set both the single

season and career rushing records. I mean this guy breaks every record at whatever level he's at. I wonder what the Pop Warner stats were. Jesus. We can't get there because it's just what take away. AI's got it all though. Yeah while he spent most of his career with the Tennessee Titans setting the single season rushing records record with 2,027 yards in 2020 he is currently he beat Chris Johnson 2k with that with that number right there. 2020. He is currently he beat Chris Johnson, 2K with that with that number right there. He is currently setting impressive records with the Baltimore Ravens including the team's franchise record and most Russian

touchdowns in a single season already and it's only like not even halfway through you know this season. Henry is celebrated for his work ethic and humble personality off the field where he is involved in charity work and is regarded as a role model. Start that clock. Start the clock. First off, I want to get to this right off the point. His nickname is King Henry. There's a guy in basketball that we all know him, know him as is King James. Who is the ultimate King Jules King Henry or King James? Let's hear your thoughts. King Henry or King James? Let's hear your thoughts.

King Henry or King James? LeBron is a generational guy, but if you talk about King Henry, he's a generational guy. This guy, 247 pounds running away from people. That is such a hard question. I didn't even know you were gonna ask me that. I'm going, I'm a football guy. I didn't know you were going to ask me that. I'm going.

I'm a football guy. I got to go. I got to go King Henry. It sounds better. Is there was there King James back in the day? Probably King James back in the day, isn't it? Is that why it's King? I just put that together. They both have kind of King names. They got both King names. I like Henry. I'm going King Henry just on name because it sounds but there's a King James back there. I'm going King Henry just on name because it sounds but there's a King James back there. Mm-hmm I'm going Derek Henry. All right. I like that pick and and what's incredible about you know, Derek Henry is you know You said that size is just impressive and how he can move what? 247 pounds, but I swear he looks huge. He looks massive

He's 247, but I swear he plays and looks bigger than he even is 100%. It's like he's 632 47. It's like, no, no, no, no. He's like 662 80 running the ball. That's what it looks like. I remember when we played against him. I walked by him after the game. Like who the fuck is his defensive end Oh My god, that that's Henry. That's Jesus. He's so big. That's no I wouldn't want to tackle him No, I want to tackle him. I mean screwed. Oh, they say at the end of the game I'm not tackling them in the beginning the game. Mm-hmm. I get a concussion getting one of the knee drives You got some he looks like a goddamn goddamn semi truck that's on fucking NOS. He is a semi truck.

On NOS. Yes. That's race fuel. That's what he is. He's a semi truck. Like when he sees that hole open, like he hits that button. He presses NOS. Fast and Furious.

Fast and Furious. Go baby, go. Eleanor. And then he just flies right through the hole. I think he was what, so far he clicked in as the second fastest player as a ball carrier in the NFL this year. Recorded. Recorded.

Second fastest player. I mean, freaking ridiculous being that size. What I love about him too, man, he's a true role model, man. He never gets in trouble. Never. Never on the field, never off the field. Is he in trouble? He doesn't smoke. He doesn't drink

He eats completely clean. He's basically on the Tom Brady diet. I think he's a while eating thing. He's vegan He might be vegan. I'm not I'm not sure about that. He could possibly could be I mean no gluten, you know You know cuts the sugar down. It's all real sugar and fruits and all that good stuff He takes care of his body does the cryo tanks on us he actually goes to the same treatment guy that I see as well my friend Bobo who's out of Nashville he gets those vitamin bags and hydration bags to make sure that he's always good to go you know on top of his games he's always burning fuel so he's got to always make sure the vitamins and fuel are always coming in He's just doing everything right and that's what I love about him. He's a great example to the young

Generation have you seen his offseason workouts on YouTube? Yeah, and I've actually worked out with him before one time one time in Dallas, Texas Yes, let me tell you man. This guy don't get tired. You don't get tired What'd you guys do for workout and like I was with my brother my two brothers and like we were just looking at his arms and like his arm Was bigger than all three of our arms combined That's why I don't understand how he doesn't weigh like 280 pounds like I weigh 260 and he's 12 pounds less than me And I'm like, but your arms are three times the size of mine. Like I don't like I think he's tricking everyone I think he really is 280 but you know in pop, when they don't let you play because you're overweight anyway, I don't think the NFL would let him play if he weighs in at 280 at the running back position. So I think he

literally is 280 because he's that big, but they just list them as 247. So he's actually qualified to play in the eye dude. Yeah. So you you're working out. What year was this? This was I think last year, a year and a half ago, two years ago. First thing you look at you say, damn, his arms so big in your first Grinkowski. The first thing I said,

I was memorized. And what's another thing about him to like he's having this career year with the Baltimore Ravens. It looks like he has an age. Yeah, he has an age because, like I said, he does everything right. And when you do everything right and take care of your body like that, you don't age. He hasn't lost a step and he's just getting faster and faster,

bigger and bigger. He has that motivation still. Like he's 30 years old as a running back. He's taken so many shots to the body. And I feel like, just, I just feel it. Like he has that chip because like, I feel like just I just feel it like he has a chip because like I feel like the Tennessee Titans You know kind of didn't give him that respect that he deserved last year You know like they were like all we got to change up our offense

All we do is give the ball the Derek Henry like they let Derek Henry walk one of their best general relational generational Henry walk, one of their best general relational generational talents on the often side of the ball in the history of the Titans. And they let them walk that easily. That kind of shows a little disrespect. I mean, it might've not been disrespect, but it just shows like they didn't really trust in him or thought his career was going down. So I think he's on a rampage to show the Titans. Hey, look what you're missing out on you

thought oh we got to switch up the offense because we're handing me the ball too much well that's all the Tennessee Titans had was handing the ball to him well it's not just the Tennessee Titans that are part of his fuel everyone else could have signed him everyone else the whole league could have signed they all thought he was done Dallas Cowboys need to run him back they could have signed him oh man we don't he was done. They all thought he was done. Dallas Cowboys need to run him back. They could have signed him. Oh man, we don't even gotta get into that. I mean, that's been in the news

for the last month with Jerry Johns. But this is, you know, this is some like Tom Brady type stuff, you know, because at 31 at a running back, he's doing things that don't, that's not normal. This is not normal. And that's why this is so freaky. He doesn't eat sugars. He doesn't do, he this is so freaky. He doesn't eat sugars.

He doesn't do, he takes care of his body. He doesn't eat any fried foods. He works out like crazy. Only thing he fries is defenses. He fries defenses. Yeah. Well, when you were talking about chips, I was like, man, he, you know, he has a big chip on his shoulder.

He probably doesn't have any chips. I was thinking that because those are fried. I was like, man, he's not,'s not falling in into our Tostitos commercials. No, he sees the commercials like, oh, those are good commercials. Jules and Grandboy. I ain't eating those. No, he won't eat those. We need to do that. Maybe kale chips.

Yeah, he probably does. He does some kale chips. 247 pounds, 99 yard touchdown. I that that is that's crazy. I remember watching that play and what everyone always says with Derrick Henry when you're playing against him, I remember Bill always talking about it. You cannot let this man get going. Keep his feet moving.

You gotta have pressure in the middle of the pocket. If you let the train go, you ain't getting on it. And that's exactly what that 99 yard touchdown was where he stiffed armed the dude, still gets the speed, gives a little back, a backwards stiff dude, still gets to speed, gives a little back, a backward stiff arm, still gets to high speed. It's something like you said, you marvel at when you see a person that does things that have never been done before like that.

It's kind of like myself a little bit. And that's why I love, I love the way he plays. I mean, I love all big men out there, whatever position. You love big men too? Yeah. I love big men. It's dudes on dudes here. Of course I love the way he plays. I mean, I love all big men out there, whatever position you love. Big men. Yeah, I love big men. It's dudes on dudes here. Of course, I love big men. I like big guys. Yeah. Big sweaty men as well. And guys sweating because he's always running for 200 plus yards every single game.

Every game he's on pace. Like damn near he's on pace to beat the record this year. He is. Yes. Some of the greatest stiff arms in in the game. You do, too. You're stiff. I had a couple, but not as many as Dare County, because he has touched the ball like 100,000 more times. some of the greatest stiff arms in the game. You do too, you're a stiff armor. I had a couple, but not as many as Derek Hennig because he has touched the ball like 100,000 more times

than myself. And he's still going, that's crazy. And he's still going, it's like, you know, he's 21 years old out there. To the amount of times he's touched a ball and he hasn't had like knock on wood, he just has, he can last. Where does he rank in all time running backs?

Oh, man. He's got to be up there. He's got a 2000 yard season. He's got to be up there. The reason why he doesn't, you know, maybe get the respect, you know, that he should have been like an all time great running back is because he's not a traditional running back like those other greats. They're all more like pity pattern. Make five guys miss and then she Brown wasn't. He's kind of Jim Brownie.

Yeah, but he's just so Jim Brown was so much bigger and athletic than everyone. He used to swap those guys around. Derek Hennies games a little bit different when he sees that hole. He just hits that knots like you said, and just goes right through and runs over everyone. No one in his way. It's just incredible how he can do that. It was like a Dickerson. Yeah, I said because they're saying in a way high knees Straight up a little bit I think he could possibly end up being one of the greatest top three greatest running backs ever play

All time all time because if he continues this path for another four or five more years Which he has not shown any decline at all. Any at all. He hasn't slowed down one single bit. He only gets better. And he's a different style of a running back. And he's going against littler defenses right now. Yes, he is.

His defenses are all built up for the past. All a bunch of receivers. I love his game because he's a big man. I love big man, mans. Yeah. Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Emmett Smith, Adrian Peterson, Derek Henry? I mean, he's this generation.

Why not? He's great right now. Why not? He's our generation's great. The last great running back after this, McCoy's in there, Shady's in there. But like, I'm talking generational. If he wins a championship, he's up there.

If he wins a Super Bowl this year. If he wins a Super Bowl. I mean, it's so crazy that on this episode, we've talked about Madden characters. Like, you have your two, like, complete opposite Madden characters. You have, like, when you make the funny little guy on your Madden, that's like 99 everything,

and then you get your funny big guy. It's like six foot four running back, like Derek Henry that can outrun people. It's crazy, these guys, he's a freak. You don't see guys that big run that fast and take that much pounding and get up and do it over and over and over. And I feel like we see a 50 plus run every year,

every like three times a year with this guy. 50 plus run. Wait, three times a year, more like every other week. He has a 50 plus. Is it not crazy? Yeah, it's crazy. He's got a huge chest as well. Like, like his arms are massive. But like, I swear, his chest, it looks like the rock, you know, when the rock is a shirt off and the chest goes like, Like, like his arms are massive, but like I swear his chest, it looks like

the rock, you know, when the rock has a shirt off and the chest goes like, like, it's that massive. He's jacked. He looks the exact same as he did, you know, in high school. He has the same frame, but like every year he just got bigger and wider and wider. Like he was, it looked like he was 6'3 already in high school and just can run all day, but he's just growing and growing and wider and wider. Like he was, it looked like he was six, three already in high school and just can run all day, but he's just growing and growing and growing and growing every single year. Vernon Davis, he was staying like,

he was like that as a kid and he kept on getting bigger and bigger and his speed never got slower and slower. Like it's, that's like anomaly shit. I mean, he could be the greatest running back in high school history. Freshman year, 2,400 yards, 26 TDs. Sophomore year, 2,700 yards, 38 TDs. A little dip in the junior year with 2,600 yards

and freaking 34 TDs. Just to top it off, a senior year. Let me just put the cherry on the old top. Let's go 4,200 yards and 55. What though? Who is, who is he playing? Who is he playing him? 55 TDs.

Touchdowns a game. High school in Florida. They got some legit. As I told, do they have record? I didn't know they put things on records in high school. That is fucking crazy. Twelve thousand yards in four years. This guy's been a freak since high school.

A hundred and fifty touchdowns in four years. Do the math. He's a Hall of Famer at the high school of our Hall of Famer at the college level and a Hall of Famer at the NFL first ballot without without a doubt. It's crazy time. What kind of dude is Derek Henry? He's a freak. I don't even got to negotiate.

It's I mean, he's a freak. He's a dog. He is a dog. He's a freak, but he's absolute freak of nature. Heck of a player. No one can tackle him. The guy was born to run. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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Let's get to the post show. In honor of this awesome college matchup, Rob and I are going to take a little trip down memory lane and relive our glory college days. Oh, back to school, back to school to prove to my mama I ain't no fool. Is that Billy Madison? Something like that. Back to school. Because I'm not a fool. I'm no fool. Let's go down memory lane of our college life. Why'd you choose Arizona? You know that's a great question and everyone asks me that because I'm from Buffalo, New York. I actually played my senior year actually in Pittsburgh at

Woodland Hills, but I'm technically am. I claim myself in Buffalo. Obviously, I grew up there for for 17 years. So my dad's in the business world of selling fitness equipment commercially and retail and he goes on those conventions, you know, those business trips and he met a friend there that did the same exact thing that he does in Arizona. And that guy was an Arizona alumni, you know, part of the Desert Storm defense and all that. And when we were growing up, he became my dad's good friend. And every time they went on these, you know, business trips, they always met up. I was growing up, we were just kids.

So he was in my dad's here. Hey, when your kids biggest Wildcat alumni loves the wild cat. Hey, when your kids grow up, they got to take a trip to University of Arizona. And this guy became really good friends with my dad. So you got to bring them to the University of Arizona. So then my older brothers, they were going to recruit it. They weren't at a high level. So whatever you can do, you got to call up a friend. Hey, can you have this coach look at my son?

So I actually went on the trip. And so I just tagged along when I was a sophomore in high school, just to see what it was like. And I got two grunts on a visit trip. Yeah. And I got to the campus. I was like, God damn, man, what kind of school is this? I mean, they got pools, I got palm trees.

I mean, it's sunny every single day. It's 90 degrees. And that's when I first fell in love with the University of Arizona. So shout out to Donnie Salam. He's still doing the same thing. He's still in the fitness world, selling fitness equipment, retail and commercially. Yeah.

He's actually a sponsor. Um, he sponsors the Denver Broncos as he's based out of Denver now. So without Donnie, I would have never been at the University of Arizona. Frickin Donnie. I went to Kent state. Yeah. Why'd you pick Kent state? Jules, like Kent state, like you're from the Bay area.

Kent States in Ohio. I mean, I think they do Halloween really well in Ohio, but I don't think you were into things like that when you were a kid. So why'd you pick Kent State? I picked Kent State. My goal in high school is I just wanted to play Division I quarterback, D1.

Didn't matter where, I just wanted to go D1. I really wanted to go to play in the Pac-10. I wanted to go to Berkeley because that's where I was from, that area. And Aaron Rodgers went to Butte and I went to Juco and he went to Berkeley after. So I kind of like wanted to go to Berkeley. Played one year at Juco, lit it up,

and then all these schools started asking, sending me letters and Kent sent me out and offered me a scholarship after my first year and a lot of these schools wanted me to change positions. Kent's like, we'll let you compete for our quarterback right now. I took a trip out there and I had the opposite thing of what you had of like, oh palm trees. I was like, man it's freezing out here. Like there's no leaves. I was coming from man, it's freezing out here. I hate it. There's no leaves. I was coming from California where it's never really fall out here. You know what I mean? And it was like bare.

It was cold. I went to a spring practice and I was like, fuck it, man. If I go here, I could play. I could play right away. I watched their practices and I was like, I'm going here. Fuck it. It's best thing to happen. I'm going to play in the cold.

Can't stay going flash. Baby, let's go shout out case You have any other offers not after that one not yet. No just can't state just can't state So you're going there no matter what can't state well. I still had another year Juco I had another year Juco you could have played Juco I had one more year Juco, but you're paying for Juco, right? Yeah, but it's like 500 bucks. So what it's $500 You didn't have you had to take out a loan or a free ride Yeah, $500 a month from the school my pops took care of that one. That's a good pops right there 500 bucks. So what? So I wanted to dollars you didn't have. You would have had to take out a loan or a free ride.

Yeah. 500 dollars a month from the school. My pops took care of that one. That's a good pops right there. Shout out to the pop. Did you have any other offers? Yeah, I had a couple other ones. My top four was Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse, because it was right down the street, about three hours away from Buffalo and Arizona. So those were my top four schools. And I had actually had the wildest recruiting visit to the University of Clemson. I had one of the best times. I mean, shout out to my hosts. I don't even know their names out there,

but they're probably telling the story to this day still of those guys that were on the team that hosted me at the University of Clemson. What's this story? I mean, I remember I was on a bar, I was dancing, and then like, I don't know, there was cheerleaders there, and I was just going ham, like I usually go know, there was cheerleaders there and I was just, just going ham. Like I usually go ham.

Like that's all I wanted to do. Like hammered off, like apple juice. I'm talking apple juice hammered and it was great time. I had a voicemail after I picked the university of Arizona, like some girl that night, I guess I gave my number to like literally left a voicemail on my phone after I picked the wildcats and was was like basically just told me how bad I messed up With my decision. Yeah I'm not gonna exactly say what the voicemail was, but I was like, this is incredible. I thought I was so cool

Yeah Ohio State Ohio State was awesome right there I was I was hung over off Apple juice there too And that picture that went viral when I was in high school and took a visit there, I was definitely, you know, a little Apple Juice guy. Look at little Rob there. And I was at the game, let me tell you,

Ohio State, Clemson, you can't beat their facilities, you can't beat their organization, you can't beat the crowd, you can't beat their stadium. But it just wasn't my fit. And if you know me personally, I'm not a guy that can get intrigued by that type of stuff. I'm a guy that sticks to my roots. The University of Arizona was where I belonged.

You know, I felt at home there. I felt like I could go there and play right away. And also at the same time, I knew if you did well enough, it was division one, you're going to go to the NFL, like there's guys going to the NFL at Arizona. So I was like, I can get to the NFL still. So it wasn't like I wanted to be one program. Do you want, I wanted to, you know, be part of a team that turned it around. I like coach dupes Ohio State, though. I mean, I was blown away about everything. But at the same time, I was like, I could have all this if I make it to the NFL. And you did. Yeah. And I did. Did you almost get

kicked out of Arizona at all? I, I never really have. I mean, we got in a couple of big fights. Yeah, that was probably I would probably say that was the closest to getting kicked, you know, off the team. Yeah. But there was a big, huge fight. There was like 10 guys involved. Like I got brought in like three days later by the police officer that was investigating it. And he was actually on our side. And later that I didn't even like open my mouth.

I didn't tell anyone. I was like, I don't even know what fight you're talking about. And he's like, no, I'm here for you. I'm on your guys aside. But still, I'm like, I I don't know, man. I was just walking by and I don't really remember much. Crunk, no rat. Yeah, no rat. No rat.

Stick to the roots. Arizona was where it was at. Other schools were great. Beautiful. Nothing bad to say. Just I belonged, you know, at the University of Arizona. And I belonged at Kent State. You did belong at Kent State. And I loved Kent State.

It opened up my perspective to the country. You know, I mean, it was a great the people, the Midwest and Ohio, Northeast Ohio are such awesome people. They love football out there. I was just always disappointed because I went to Kent State and everyone would leave our game to go watch the Ohio State game. Like we had no fans. If Ohio State had a game during the same time, people at our school,

at every school in Ohio love Ohio State. It's I didn't realize how big it was because, you know, I grew up in the Bay area where, you know, we had Colin Stanford, but it was really a pro sport area we had Niners Giants Warriors Sharks early in my life you know came in there and Colin Stanford were big but it wasn't huge and I didn't realize how big college football was until I went to Ohio and I saw how big Ohio State and that fan group was it was freaking crazy to me here's a question I've always wondered this because Ohio State and that fan group was. It was freaking crazy to me. Here's a question.

I've always wondered this because Ohio State is so big. They get one hundred, like ten thousand plus people a game. And you're you know, you went to school in Ohio at Kent State. Is Ohio State the football program out of all football programs at any level in the state of Ohio? Does it dominate the Cincinnati Bengals? Does it dominate the Cincinnati Bengals? Does it dominate the Cleveland Browns? If you're in Ohio, you grow up in Ohio, it's all about the Buckeyes or is it about the Browns or the Bengals more?

Buckeyes, number one guarantee. You could go anywhere in the state. You go down to Cincinnati and you can see this in gas stations or you to like Cracker Barrels that are all over. They'll always have Ohio State shit. They're selling Ohio State mugs, this, that. You go to like the West Virginia part of Ohio where it touches down there. You see nothing but Ohio State. You go up to Dayton, which is a different area

like near Indiana and stuff. They love Ohio. They love Ohio State everywhere in Ohio. I couldn't I didn't understand it. It's huge. Did you ever host any recruiting trips with any other NFL guys? No, not really. So when I was at the University of Arizona, they didn't allow me to host anyone. Why? Yeah, I hosted one player and we got chased by a helicopter. No, you didn't. I swear.

What do you mean you got chased by a fucking helicopter? We got chased by a helicopter. I hit under a car and this recruit was running around with me. He was a top Juco recruit. I thought I thought I definitely sold him. I thought he was definitely coming to the University of Arizona. He didn't? No, he ended up going to Arizona State.

Never seen him again until he goes Arizona State. I was like, I thought he was definitely going to choose the University of Arizona. He didn't know he ended up going to Arizona State. Never seen him again until he goes there. It was on state. I was like, I thought he was definitely going to choose the University of Arizona. Like I was like, and then and then I'm on the Patriots. Like 2016 or something. I don't know when what year exactly. We signed some guy on the practice squad midseason alignment. He comes up to me, he's like, Yo, Greg, remember me? And like, you know, back in my mind, I'm like, I do, but I don't.

Because I never seen him again. He left after that night. He's gone and chose Arizona State big time recruit. He's like, yeah, you hosted me at the University of Arizona. And then everything just started clicking. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I was like, how are you doing? How are you doing? He's like, I'll remember that night for us in my life. But I can't believe he went to go be a devil. Yeah. I mean, he can't

be, he can't set foot in Tucson anymore because a goddamn helicopter will chase him. He had to go to Arizona State. The, you know, message of the story. It's like a hangover ship. It was basically, we were at a party and got broken up and there was always a helicopter that broke it up and everyone started running and just the Primitive premises of the of the story is the helicopter followed us So then I was like two biggest guys. Yeah, this guy's a lion. I was like, oh fucking Rob Yeah, we got away. We got away Scott free. They helped my skills How my football skills on the field you get away gonna get away from a helicopter. You can get away from a defender Yeah

Well, that's been another episode of dudes on dudes What could we do better next episode? Let us know guys. We want we want to hear from you guys We do what can we do better? What do you think we want to know? I've been trying to you know scroll through the comments of what we could do better. What do you think we want to know? I've been trying to, you know, scroll through the comments of what we could do better and just everyone keeps saying how good we are. So I'm like, I don't know if we can do anything better. What do you think? Oh, no, no. There is one guy out there that thinks we can do things better. Who? Rob Minkovic. Oh, Rob. Just always crapping on us. Always crapping.

Always. He always. Yeah. He gives us a little shameful hate. Yeah. The DMS. Yeah. He always. Yeah. He gives us a little shameful hate. Yeah. The M's. Yeah, he does. Well, the M's don't even make sense. I'm like, you know, Nico, like you're trying to make fun of us because we're not, you know, technically super smart like you. And your whole paragraph, you said to us makes no sense. No periods, no commas, nothing.

I mean, where does he when does he have time to write? You have three kids. What, you on Instagram all day? I hit my box and all of a sudden I see Niković in my goddamn inbox. I'm like, what the fuck? I thought he was a family man. It's 1130 at night, don't you have three kids?

This guy's at a freaking- Is he walking the dog again? At a charity party every night, yeah. He's walking the dog just to tweet at us. We'll figure it out. No, I know what it is Paige is walking him Yeah, so then he has time because he's a dog Owners not really paying attention to you when you're on a leash because you know, you're you're on the leash you're good

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