Games with Names - Dudes on Draft Recap

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

We're recapping the 2025 NFL Draft! Rob & Jules break down the biggest stories from the draft in Green Bay. We dive into the Shedeur Sanders saga, Will Campbell and the Patriots draft as a whole, and which teams had the best drafts. In this week's Chillest Dude of the Week we hit The Chill Line to answer some voicemails. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Football, football, football, playbook, playbook, playbook. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Get after it. Nightclubs going out, trying to pick up girls. Hey, that will come. Just do what you got to do to make the team. Because the better you do on the field, all the other stuff comes. Exactly. The better you are as a player and the better your team does.

You know, put you in different circles. You probably get hotter chicks, too. Ding, it'll put you in different circles. You'll probably get hotter chicks too. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That was a knockout right there, Jules. Hit it right on the money. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. And I'm Rob Gronkowski.

And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. That's right. And this is our draft recap show. Who are we talking about today, Gronk? The Patriots new offensive tackle that they got forth overall in the draft. Will Campbell. I can't wait to see him get that old line going.

That's the left tackle that you want. And which teams had our favorite draft? I truly believe they had probably the best draft in the NFL for what they needed. I like the Giants draft. And I give tips on how to be a great tight end and repetition after repetition so he gets the feel of where he should be now with the quarterback. And then we wrap it up by hitting the chill line for the chillest dude of the week. You gotta stick around to the end Let's go Dudes on dudes is a production of a heart radio

What's going on Robbie? Hey Jules? How you doing, buddy? I'm good. I'm good. I'm I see that you have a little color. I have a little color. We both have a little color. It is springtime over here in Los Angeles. The flowers are starting to bloom. The leaves are starting to come over there. And where are you, Tampa? Yes, I'm in Tampa right now. How are those palm trees?

The palm trees are always popping. The palm trees are always blossoming all over the place Especially in my backyard. I just have a wonderful backyard full of like a hundred palm trees. It's like paradise back there I love it so much and I Can get color at any time of the year here. It's so beautiful. I love it jewels. I love the Sun I'm a Sun warrior for life. Welcome to the sun edition today because we're both tan, baby. We're both sun kissed. If isn't that what the kids say? Your son kissed.

Well, yeah, here. Spring is coming. Ripped up my hands from gardening. Spent five hours clipping these goddamn agave plants with no gloves and learned that I should probably put gloves on if I'm clipping those. So I'm excited. I'm I'm it's it's a happy time of the year.

You were in Vegas for Easter slash WWE WrestleMania. How the hell was Grand Beach? Grand Beach was popping this year. I actually couldn't do Gronk Beach at the Super Bowl because it would have been just too much on my plate. Obviously Fox had the game. I was you know doing the pregame show, halftime, postgame and a ton of other extracurriculars extra... how you say that word? Extracurricular? Extracurricular. Extracurricular. Curriculars. I'm saying it wrong too. extra. How do you say that word? Extra curricular, extra curricular, extra curricular curricular. Thank you, Jules. Yes. It's a tough word. If you're getting, if you're getting word advice

from me, we're going to have a day. Yes, we are. Yes, we share our Jules, but we always have a day together. And that's why we do dudes on dudes, because we're always there to help each other out. And we're always there to pick each other up and have a wonderful day at the same time, no matter what the obstacles are and, uh, all that stuff going on at the Superbowl, Grant Beach would have been just too much to handle. So I moved Grant Beach to WrestleMania this year and man, what a bright idea it was, what a turnout that we had.

WrestleMania fans, they're delightful. Their passion is just to a whole nother level. I was like, I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed.

I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed.

I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm I usually go to bed at 10 a.m. Eastern every night. The party didn't start till 11 p.m. West Coast time. So that was about 12. They had to let Jesus resurrect or something, right? Let them the Easter egg hunts, Jesus resurrect, and then all that settled in the Gronk Beach started. Exactly what we did. I was actually an honorary Jew for the weekend, too,

because we threw Grunk Beach on, you know, on Easter. So the the guys that throw the party and organize it, they're actually Jewish. So they made me an honorary Jew for just throwing Grunk Beach on the day that Jesus, you know, resurrected. So I appreciate you guys looking out for me. And but we let him resurrect and then we threw Grunk Beach, baby, because that's what it's all about.

And the people loved it. The people loved it. Oh, yeah. I mean, people like that is. When you entered the NFL, that was the first thing I thought of I was like WWE character Rob boom count this guy he's got a name. He's got a name. He's like share. Everyone just calls him Gronk. He's got one name He's fucking larger than life He's dancing to LM FAO larger than life. He's dancing to LMFAO. This guy is a WWE character and it's only suiting that you have Grunk Beach at

WrestleMania on Easter in Vegas. I'm sorry I couldn't make it. It was tough. I think I was coming back from Tahoe. I went to Lake Tahoe. It's all good, Jules. It's tough to make everything. I don't, you know, make every single party, I can't make all your events as well. And you actually run yourself down and you get tired trying to make every party in every event. So totally understandable, totally acceptable. You can just show up to the next Grand Beach. But my

question is, how was Lake Tahoe since you were there over the weekend? How was that experience? Man, I went to Lake Tahoe and I grew up going to Lake Tahoe as a kid, probably like once, maybe twice a year, if it was a good year, pretty expensive back then, still expensive.

And I forgot how beautiful that freaking place is, man. It was like unreal. It was 70 degrees, so there was still snow. We went to Diamond Peak and then we went for one day, which was a place I used to go to when I was a child. And it was awesome having my dad skiing with my daughter. My brother was there. My niece was there. It was just some great family time. Got to snowboard, went sledding a day. But then we also, it was 70 degrees at the lake level. So we were riding bikes during the day around this beautiful crystal clear lake that I forgot how beautiful that place is. I mean, it smells great. The pines

are everywhere. The stars glisten like, like they're fricking lights right above your face. It was just such a cool place. Went to some local burger joints. Had some good dinners. My mom cooked, my dad cooked. It was just a great getaway. You know, and I forgot. I mean, Tahoe is just so damn beautiful.

It is a cool place. All those mountain places are just you're like reminded, like how beautiful everything in nature is like when you go to Montana and you're driving and you see that, like that beautiful sight and you're in Lake Tahoe, you see the mountains around this lake and like I loved it. I had a great time. Well, that's great to hear about Lake Tahoe. But I want to hear about your golf game now, Jules. How's your golf game been? Have

you been driving the ball long? You know, I'm hit or miss. Why are you asking, Rob? You know, I saw you take some hacks over the weekend. And I just love your form. It just has so much power behind in the way that you hit the ball. It's a heck of a shot. You belong basically on the PGA tour. If you can control that, you know, drive every single time. I can't get it in the slot every time, according to Max Homa, but I just overall, the way that you were driving, I mean,

the ball was like screaming coming off that driver. It was like watching happy Gilmore, the movie and just seeing the shots where the ball would just room. It's kind of like a rocket just roaming into the air, you know, but it's not like the blooper drives. It's the one that's just screaming

and just elevating at a consistent pace, not a rocket, but like an airplane taking off at full power, like jet taking off. And that's the type of swing and power that you have behind your drive tools. And I loved watching it, it's entertaining. Now, in a drive competition,

I just got a question. If you have three balls, okay, would you rather have three balls right down the middle at like? 280 yards Like dry and the competition is to drive it as far as you can Against other humans or are you gonna fucking just let it rip? Every single time and hope one of those jokers gets down the middle? Because if it does, it's going to be screaming.

Which one would you do? Well, if it's a long drive competition, I'd rather go for it. Thank you. Fuck it, Jules. I don't care about the consistency of putting it down the middle three times at two hundred ninety yards. Yeah, you're going to get a little golf clap, but I don't want that little golf clap. I'm coming off of WrestleMania.

I want the fans screaming my name and going absolutely absurdly crazy for my type of hit, for my finishing move, for my finishing swing. It's the long drive competition. I'm going for it even though two of them are all the way to the left or the right. But the second you put the left or the right, but the Second you put it right down the middle boy, just like you did the crowds gonna erupt and go crazy So I prefer that any day over consistency in a long drive competition

That's what you did Jules you hit it probably about 330 yards spanking right down the middle. You know, I just, people in the long drive competition should know that too. All right, that's all I'm gonna say. There's two people out there that will know who this is. Maybe they'll comment in the section,

those two people that were talking all that hat oh I can't oh took them three balls and put it down the it's a long drive contest you're supposed to drive it as long and as far as you can it doesn't matter if it's down the middle on all three there's no extra credit for freaking getting three down the middle last I heard it's the furthest one. So grip it and freaking rip it. All right. Those listeners, one of those guys that was talking,

we won't say names. It's not an accuracy contest. It's a long drives contest. It's a distance contest not accuracy buddy long drive and one of those, you know One may be a goat that was talking about that. He's a girl. He's the goat That's all I'll say and the other Really good commentator a really good game caller, former tight end. And it's probably I mean. Yeah, that's all I'll say.

Former tight end. Really good. Oh, really good. Well, there's some good hints. And if you if you want to see the drive contest, you wouldn't think that the guy who won won won cause all the talking, but my connection sucks. Can you hear me? Hold on. Let me move spots. All right. All right. I can hear you loud and clear now. All right.

This is way better in my family room. Sorry folks. We had a little interruption on the plate. We got blitzed. We got sacked. My internet was not working well, but we adjust on the fly. Unlike the guy that Julian beat in the long drive competition, he couldn't adjust on the fly. He couldn't adjust his technique to be able to hit the ball longer. He just thought it was all about accuracy, let alone he didn't know that it mattered how far the ball really went in the end.

And that's why we're champions jewels, because we know how to adjust just like I just adjusted. I moved from my office to my family room, because the internet sucked, you were chopping up every other word. So everyone out there, here's some advice. Get some sound internet, pay for some top quality shit. Unlike my cheap ass, I got, who knows, one G right now, but now I got five Gs in my family room.

We're back, let's hit it, Jules. Well, at least we got the Robbie G and we'll continue this. How about this Wrexham team? Have you heard this news with Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhaney? You're kind of talking to the wrong cat. I'm going to have to be filled in more on what's going on with all this.

They buy a team, what, four or five years ago. They do this reality TV show. It's like a league six team. I don't fact check me. I'm just telling you the story. And then each year they've got promoted. Three years in a row, first time ever that this has happened. Now they're in like the second best division behind the English Premier League. How fucking crazy is that?

Should we buy a fucking team? I mean, I know Tom's got a team, fucking JJ Watt has a team, JJ Watt's got a team. Everyone's getting a fucking London team. How do we get one of these teams? I'm not really sure how to get that done, Jules. And I don't really know how the divisions work over there.

I don't really know how the leagues work. So I'll explain it in a nutshell. I'll explain it in a nutshell. I'll explain it in a nutshell. So in soccer, in Europe, you can get relegated if you're in the bottom third of your league, or you can get promoted if you're in the top third of your league. I don't know that could be different in certain leagues.

It could be only one, it could be two. But if you finish in a certain standing in your league at the top, they put you in a new division and then the shitty teams, they get relegated. So they get thrown out of the division and go to a lower division. This team started in like division four and now they're all the way up to division two, which has never been done. This is a really old team that has a huge support in a small community out somewhere in, in the UK. And Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhaney bought the team, put money in, created a reality TV show around it.

Now they have like the number one Jersey sales. They're freaking sponsored by TikTok and all the teams in their divisions are sponsored by like local number one Jersey sales. They're freaking sponsored by TikTok and all the teams in their divisions are sponsored by like local tire companies and shit. So like they've literally built this one program, which in Europe you can do all the way to the second league and they can potentially go to the English premier league if they fucking win their division this year.

That's what they did. How fucking nuts is that? Tom owns a team. JJ Watt owns a team. How come we don't own a team? They can't be that expensive. Well, maybe a flag football team, Jules. Should we own one of those? I mean, that's going to be up and coming. Maybe we should make a flag football league like this, where you get relegated and you could create a you can create a team club team and that club team will have like divisions and will relegate and promote the teams.

We do a flag football league. Is there any flag football league world? Yeah, we're we're late to the party. We're late. That's OK, though. It's already started, which was not UK as well. Everything is clicking right now for Ryan Reynolds and the rec some F C soccer club. I mean, like you said, they were probably waiting for this day to happen with the team moving up in

divisions. I totally understand what you're saying. That's kind of what they should do with the MLB because the system is set up for it already, the bottom two teams in Major League Baseball, so should drop back down to triple A, and the two triple A teams, the top two should go in to the MLB. And then it'll just give them that many more incentives to be forming the best team possible, you know, for baseball. So that's kind of just a creative idea that just came to me

because I like how you, how they're doing that over in Europe in London and just that team as well with TikTok that you said with everything that they're doing, everything is just spanking right on the money right now for them, which is really cool to see they're putting in obviously their work and due diligence and it's right now for them, which is really cool to see. They're putting in, obviously, their work and due diligence and it's popping off for them. So it's inspiring to where we wanna buy a flag football team and possibly go on that page, which is cool.

I got a question for you. Yeah, what's your question, Jules? All right, this whole relegation promotion thing. What NFL team should get relegated and why is it the Jets? Well, first off, I like how you didn't even give me the option to relegate a team. I was thinking I was thinking the Indianapolis Colts for a moment, because the New York Jets didn't even matter at the time when we were playing. They weren't even kind of, they weren't even competition really. The coach were, you know. Right before you

got there, they beat our ass in the or no, they beat our ass in the playoffs that one year in 14-2. They did. They did. They were, they were pretty, they had that, they young in our career, they were decent. Yeah, they were yeah they had a really good defense they had racks I you know those were some battles it just those were bad that it's been ever San Cheeto left I mean it's it's been uh it's been tough hmm I would relegate the Jets we'll be right back after this quick break what's up with Zach Wilson wearing a zero? He's wearing zero? Did you see Ryan Fitzpatrick jump in the

the comment section? And he had a real Harvard answer. It might be silly but perception matters in this business and a QB trying to resurrect his career wearing number zero doesn't scream serious QB Fitzpatrick on Zach Wilson's post wearing Braxton Barrios is zero You know what I got to jump into this Rob. Yes. Let's hear it I think a lot of people are giving coach Belichick and this whole interview thing with Jordan. I think they're giving them unfair.

An unfair reality of what's going on because she was jumping into that conversation during the interview Just like any PR person would jump in when there's an unnecessary question that Probably didn't go over in the in the pre-meeting Like the pre-production meeting and so from what I've heard Jordan is playing the Bears roar role the Bears role of like Handling all the football ops handling a lot of his social, handling a lot of his PR. And so like, when you look at this situation and you say, oh, this is his girlfriend saying, jumping in,

I don't, I think that's unfair. I think she's actually working and that's her profession right now with Coach Belichick in the professional world now don't don't doesn't mean that they can't have a relationship and do the mermaid shit that they do that's relationship time but when this whole interview thing happens that I think she's working and she probably went and said hey that's a quite no we're not doing that what do you like isn't doesn't that always happen whenever you do an interview?

Do you not have a representative there? Yeah, she's becoming his representative on top of being a girlfriend. I mean, it's two for one. In my eyes, I see what's going on. That's a two for one. And also, no one's really put this hand in hand together. When your name is Jordan and you're

on the University of North Carolina, Tar Heels campus, you're God. Never thought about it. You're untouchable if your name is Jordan. If your name is Jordan on Chapel Hill, just shut the fuck up and let the shit go. Exactly. Rob, that was beautiful. That was poetry. That's all I got. That's all I got. You know what? They're winning the Natty this year potentially. I got them in the bowl. They better.

I got North Carolina because of that whole situation. All right. Before we break down the Patriots draft, we got to give a shout out to the Admiral Joe Cardona. Patriots released him yesterday, two time Super Bowl champion, final member of the second dynasty fifth round draft pick out of the Navy, out of the Navy, which he was like one of the first players that had to, that was able to go right away, but served in the off season in Newport, Rhode Island

That's what people don't understand Joker was still on station still serving in offseason Newport, Rhode Island You know what a hell of a career he he is a patriot he is what the Patriot way was Unsung hero great locker room guy, always worked his dick off, knew when to be seen, knew when to be heard. You know, like that's kinda Joe, and he's someone you could always talk to, and like he was just always even keel.

You know, and if you always hear the phrase foxhole guy, he's a fucking foxhole guy. You hit it. You hit it spot on Julian with with the praise to Joe Cardona. First off, I just want to say thank you for your service, Joe. Not just, you know, to the New England Patriots organization, but serving our country. You know, while being on the New England Patriots as well, you were double dutying, double dutying it, which has probably never been done before in the NFL

from my understanding. Just appreciate everything you have done in the locker room, on the field to help us win games and protecting our freedom. Joe, you're the longest tenured patriot that was on the roster, but not anymore. And we appreciate it. You had 10 seasons with New England. Four years at Navy. You just celebrated your 33rd birthday.

You're a good dude. Just shout out to you brother hell of a career. Hopefully it continues somewhere else. I'm going to his wedding. Going to his wedding next week, you know, so I'll see him. It's going to be in Boston. I'll tell Joe, I say, what's up? I think the invite got lost in the mail, but that's all right.

You don't want to invite the big gronk story. The party might get turned up a little bit too much. I think I asked him why he didn't invite you. He said, I think Rob probably has a grunk beach that weekend. Well, well, that's a good possibility. But just give him a little shout out for me, Jules. I love Joe. I will. I say, what's up? I'll let him know.

Let's shift over to the Patriots draft, Robbie. Well, what do you think about the Patriots draft, Jules? Let's get right into it, man. I like it. Mm hmm. I like it a lot. I, you know, and being in the media now, you know, you, you got your circles. You got your circles and I call all these little circles, all my, all my little sources everywhere that are still affiliated with teams, still in the, the

mix as they like to say. And I just asked some questions about certain guys. I said, hey, is T-Rex arms gonna be all right? And they all say this kid's a fucking killer. And I'm talking about Campbell. Everyone talks about the short arms. After I saw his interview, said he would fucking die

for Drake May, it gave me low key some Logan Mankin vibes. It gave me some Logan fucking Mankin vibes where he's like just country and you know, and the last, just super country guy. And the last undersized tackle that everyone thought we missed on was this guy named Matt light from Purdue in the second round I believe who he was way too small to play tackle played played for us for what 11 12 years three Super Bowls fucking stud I'm super excited about that pick I'll let you go

to your one of your favorite picks. Who do you like? Yeah, I really like Campbell. You know, I think it wasn't just a position. I think I really love that. That's the best part about this pick is that it was a position need for the New England Patriots, but also at the same time, he was, I believe that he was one of the best available players in the draft too. It wasn't like a far reach. Oh, we need to often to tackle. Let's just draft the first guy that even though he's not deserving of a top 10 pick, he was deserving of a top 10 pick. So it goes hand in hand. Wonderful pick.

And what I'm really excited about, though, was their second round pick in the running back that they got out of Ohio State. Trevion Henderson, I think he can walk right into the Patriots organization and possibly be, you know, they're starting running back from day one. And what I really like about this guy is that he's going to make Drake May feel really, really comfortable in the pocket, not just because he's going to get the run game going, but because he's one of the best past protecting backs to come

out of college football in some time. So it's third down. It's a crucial situation. You need to get the first down, you know, to keep your chances alive to win the game and boom, here comes the linebacking blitz, the linebacker blitzing, you know, right up the a gap and boom, Trevion Henderson picks them up. Drake may don't got to worry about it gets Gets the ball off to Stefan Diggs. First down the chains are moving. That's why this was a huge pickup in my eyes.

I believe he has a first round grade as well, but they got him in the second round. So it was a steal. The Patriots a to an a plus in the draft rankings, probably the best draft out of all the teams this year. Congratulations to Vrabel in the front office in their first year doing it with the Patriots. Yeah, I know you can tell by their draft and you in comparison to the last couple drafts that they've had that they wanted to make a statement for like certain guys. Like the Will Campbells. That's a statement.

He's like a, he's a culture builder type guy after I don't even know him. I haven't met him, but just hearing the way he speaks here and seeing his demeanor. That's a culture guy. That's a culture builder. The trade Vaughn Henerson. I mean, last time we played in a couple Super Bowls, we had running backs that had 13 plus catches, Shane Verene and white sweet feet. Like they got, they got Stevenson for like the, the, the Ben, the

Benny law firm kind of guy, North South runner. And then you get Henderson with Josh McDaniels, pairing him with Josh McDaniels. I see so many sprawl routes in my head right now. The sprawl coming out of the backfield, cross up that linebacker, great matchups with the running back, which is really good for the quarterback. Because a lot of these young guys, they like that all go, and so hey, we'll give them the all go, but then we'll have the running back do his little thing. If you got a guy that can get open and block that's huge. I love I've heard some really good things about this Kyle Williams kid out of Washington State you know everyone I've asked about him I haven't watched a lot of them but they're

all like man we liked him we liked him a lot. Well, Julian, hold on for a second. When you're 69th pick in the draft, you're always going to have good juju around you. You'll never be a bus, you know, uh, guy had what 18 touch sounds over 2000 yards. I think over his last two seasons at Washington state too, you know, he's kind of like a Steve, you know, Smith ability, you know, I would say a little bit like that. You know, uh, I mean, I just think it's a great pick overall. Got to be tough. We've had him here in this nut house.

You better be fucking, you better make me, you better make people scared with your eyeballs if you're Steve Smith, getting Steve Smith comparisons. That dude's intimidating, but he's an awesome dude. I love that they got another center, Jared Wilson out of Georgia center guard, revamping this offensive line that was, it was like, I hate saying it, but they were terrible last year

they were bad like in all statistical categories like they need they go out and they get uh the guy from the Jets uh Moses and you draft Will Campbell you bring in Jared Wilson to be a part of that interior part of the line from what I I hear, Scarnecchio is consulting over there. Maybe old Scar was in the building breaking down this film, getting guys according and right for the system that he knows with Josh McDaniels. I don't know. This is what I have no sources, but that's what I heard. Also, what about the kicker from Miami?

I think that's a great pickup. I'm actually surprised like how people are surprised that the Patriots grabbed the kicker in the sixth round. I mean, it's a six round pick. Usually you cut a guy. I can't believe kickers don't go higher in the draft, especially, you know, when they're money. I mean, how many points does do a kicker produce throughout the season and in just a single game, it's usually around probably average. What one to two field goes a game. That's plenty of points, you know, possibly game winning situations as well as well at end of the game.

So picking up a kicker that's dedicated that, you know, that's going to produce. I think that's big. Yeah. Second round pick third round for a kicker, you know, is not really doable, but grabbing a kicker in a six round is absolutely no risk. I think it's a wonderful pickup for the Patriots. Sebastian Janikowski when the first round. Yeah. Yeah. That was the only kicker of all time that won the first round. Correct.

Did Ray guy, I think Ray guided too for he's a punter. I don't think we're going to see that happen again. I don't think we're gonna see that happen again I don't know but hey, that was Al Davis. That's Al Davis, but with the kicker like to your point Rob I agree with you a thousand percent if you look at all these corner Stone teams that have won Super Bowls They all have a great kicker when we were playing we had Gaskowski. The team before us had Adam Vinatieri. The Peyton Manning teams over there in Indy, when they had Vanderjack, they lost.

When they got fucking Vinatieri, they won a Super Bowl. You look at the Chiefs right now, Buckhead, or what is this, Buckert? Buckner. Buckner is fucking, he's dialed. You look at the Ravens, just Tucker. Like he's won them a lot of game, a lot of games. So like having a kicker, I remember just being in

and hearing the coaches and Scotty O'Brien, like they would always talk about, you need to have a guy that you know can make those those kicks 40, 50 and then he has to be 100% because that changes how you call plays, that changes your demeanor for the offense, that changes how you defend teams. Everything revolves around the special teams. It's such a huge equalizer and having a great kicker makes that. So I agree.

I just really love what the Patriots did throughout this whole draft too. They drafted a player that they needed at that position. And it wasn't just reaching out to grab a guy for that need at that position. It was getting value as well with the pick. For example, you know, Joe Cardona, yeah, one of the longest tenure Patriots. It was just time, I guess, for him to go. You got a new regimen, you know, Vrabel wants new players in there that he wants his own players. And then they go out and they get a long snapper and Julian Ashby and the seventh

round technically might not work out. It's a seventh round pick, but still, you know, for the value of a seventh round pick for a position that you need to fill, you know, it makes sense. You got the kicker as well in the sixth round. David Andrews got released this year, absolute legend, a Patriots legend, another one, but it's a variable regimen now, once again, so it was just time, you know, for him to go and then they get a center slash guard in the third round with Jared Wilson that we were talking about out of Georgia, who ran a four, eight,

40 yard dash at 310 pounds. This guy fits the pages. More reminds me of Shaq Mason, Shaq Mason, Shaq Mason. That's kind of Shaq, isn't it? Yeah, definitely. Shaq was just an athletic. Remember Shaq was super, he was super athletic. So the line guys are starting to look like guys that I kind of can see, which last few years it wasn't looking like that other than David Andrews, but you know he was banged up with the shoulders. Uh, Rable was really close to Lonnie Paxton, so you know he had to get a long snapper in the seventh name Jules. Mmhmm.

Yeah. Don't think I'm fucking, don't think I don't know Vrabes. I know you shotgunning some beers with Lonnie Paxton over at the Red Bull fucking fridge in the locker room. We heard the stories Vrabes. That's why you got old Jules in the seventh round huh? We know those stories bubs. What about these undrafted guys?

Let's give some undrafted guys some love. They got some pretty solid undrafted players. You're talking about the Afton Chisholm. Chisholm. He's got to be chiseled. Eastern Washington. He's got to be chiseled. Eastern Washington.

Blue football field. I know that. That's why I know about Eastern Washington. They put that blue turf in. They wanted the copy. Red. Oh, the red turf. You're thinking of Boise State. Boise State has put that blue turf and they wanted the cop red Oh the red turf you're thinking of boys you stay has the blue turf But they wanted the copy boys you stay and they put that blue turf in I remember everyone complaining about it for a little bit But after in Chisholm, he better be chiseled if your last name is Chisholm out of Eastern, Washington

I mean his senior year he produced 120 Receiving, you, receptions over 1300 yards and 13 TDs. You know, that's second to cup in all time and receptions at Eastern Washington. Old Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup alum, Washington guy. What's his speed? Let's look them up. What is what is his speed? Probably more quick, I would say. That's how you get 100

quicker than that. That's how you get 120 receptions. You got to be quicker, you know, than your, your, what do you run? Do you go to the comp? Four, seven 40. He ran. It's average. That's what I ran. Yeah. It's probably really, really, but you're another human. You have a whole nother human on your body. He's got to be really, really quick out of his brakes,

I bet. Explosive, but just top-notch speed just isn't there. You know? That's OK, though. You know, hey, that's what special teams are for, buddy. Now, running back, Lan Larson out of UC Davis, the agricultural school out of Sacramento. Wow. I almost went to UC Davis, Rob. Really out of Sacramento. Wow.

I almost went to UC Davis, Rob. Really, to play football or baseball? I went, my old high school head coach, Vel Scout, this big ass Polish guy, Coach V, he took me and Tyrese Jax to go see UC Davis because he graduated from there. He was it was division one double A. But that's what my remember. That's my memory of UC Davis. I don't remember. I remember it was beautiful, but I heard this guy's a bell cow.

Oh, let's see him. Oh, he's a steer wrestler. Oh, this is got special teams written all over it. He's strong, obviously, he's fucking rattle and he's wrestling them, them cows. Not that that these two dudes probably can freaking. They could probably compete for special teams. I mean, that's what you bring these guys in

and to build depth, build depth to your starters and compete on the special teams. That's how I made the damn team. Yeah, no doubt about that. I mean, they're long shots, they're dark horses to make the roster, but hey guys, remember there's the practice squad. I think there's up to 13 to 15 guys in the practice squad.

Now you can sit on that squad for a year to develop, go against the first team, defense of the New England Patriots, practice your skills, learn the ins and outs of the NFL, just improve on a daily basis as an undrafted free agent, and then boom, you can become a special team star out of nowhere. You can start getting some reps with the third team and show your skills. And then all of a sudden someone goes down and you get a call and you got to fill in at the game and boom, that's your shot. And just never know when it's going to come. So just always be prepared and always be ready and give it your best every single day.

Always have a chip on your shoulder, you undrafted free agents. You always get a shot. so just keep working at it. You know, and the one thing for guys in the later rounds, undrafted guys, mistakes are gonna be made. You just can't make the same mistake twice. Coaches will give you some, you know, they're expecting you to make mistakes. Don't make it twice. Coaches will give you some, you know, they're expecting you to make

mistakes. Don't make it twice. Know your shit. Know your formations. Know all your your coaching points and think to yourself that they are gonna call on you at all times because they can. I don't know how this is gonna be, but I'm just saying be that prepared because you have to give it everything you have because once the vets come in and you'll have these little camps when the vets aren't there and you have the rookie camp and you'll have these reps the reps are gonna go down and the only reps you're gonna get are in special teams so you gotta like do really good on those things do all their techniques know the names know the terms know the formations

Know what the other side of the ball has to do so you know your responsibility know Conceptually what's going on not just what you're doing and that's how you make the team and you improve like Gronk said Every day don't make a mistake think you'rek said every day. Don't make a mistake. Think you're getting cut every day. That's how, that's how fucking life and death and this shit is. That's how life and death this shit is. I remember going to Brian Hoyer and, and, and Orenberger's room every night to go over my fucking formations, my play, my personnel groups, my concepts.

And I didn't even sniff the field on offense. my play, my personnel groups, my concepts. And I didn't even sniff the field on offense, you know, but we did have, you have your little period at the end where the, you know, it's called, what is it? What was it called? A makeup period or that one period where you go, you know, kind of younger guys on younger guys to give them their reps. I know exactly what you're talking about It's just not clicking in my mind

Yeah, you know, but you got to take advantage of that any rep you get is being watched This isn't college anymore. They don't have a backup To the backup long snapper. There's not a hundred and twenty guys on a fucking team There's 53 and 15 maybe 16 practice squad guys that gets small when you see it for the first time a lot of great points Julian a lot of great points made right there and talking about just going over your you know the personnel the formations and all that as just a higher you know round draft pick I would say you get a little bit more opportunity, you know, you get a little bit more room for

mistakes. But eventually, if you make too many mistakes, they'll still put that undrafted free agent in front of you because you're making too many mistakes. As an undrafted free agent, you don't want to make a mistake twice. Like you said, as a first round second round, you make it twice, they're going to just keep getting on you, they're going to start yelling at you more and more until you finally pick it up. Because like I said, you're a higher draft pick, you know, they're invested more into you. So you have a little bit more room for error. But I'm not saying you want to make those errors. I'm just saying know the formations out on the football field too well, because there was just so many when I got to the New England Patriots in

college, it was like, I, I line up on the right, put my hand down, and sometimes in the slot and I just go, there was like five formations. When I got, you know, with Brady and company and with Josh McDaniel's coach Belichick, uh, let me tell you, there's about 50 different formations. I had to learn and I was all over the place lining in the, you know, in the wrong spot. Lining up in the wrong spot, coming out of the huddle. So therefore I stayed after practice with my coach, my rookie year for about an hour, every single day with coach Farris. And we went over the formations just to make sure I knew where to line up the next day.

And I could do it quickly so I wasn't thinking. Because the second you're thinking, you're beat. Because if you're thinking what you gotta do, you can't really react to the play and then the DB or linebacker gets up in your grill and just whoops your ass. So don't be thinking out there on the field. Hurry up and get in that playbook

and don't make those mistakes on a daily basis that you already made. Yeah, and then also for like the you know, the the higher drafted guys, I remember like there was higher drafty guys that knew they got more opportunity and took advantage of that and then didn't pan out. When you're a higher drafty guy, you want to make these fucking guys look like they were right for drafting you high. You want to be a professional, you know,

because you have some seventh round guy like me. Like when I was a veteran and I earned where I was at, when I would see a high, highly drafted guy come in and think that way, it turned me off as a player and it made me knew that he wasn't the guy. We didn't get the right guy. You know what I mean? So like being a high drafted player, that's a huge accomplishment.

That is great. But don't go out there thinking you get more opportunity because you're the higher drafted guy. The more mistakes you make, you're just making them look wrong for drafting. Mm hmm. You know, so it's it's this is this is a high stress environment. The more mistakes you make you're just making them look wrong for drafting you know You know, so it's it's this is this is a high stress environment. This is pro football That's what all these guys need to learn. Yeah, we like to do tic tocs and have fun and shit But when there's a hundred guys in the locker room and they cut that bitch down to 53

You know, I think I think I'd rather be fucking fighting instead of tick-tocking and having all this fun And all this shit because that's what it is. These guys are gonna be introduced Mm-hmm to you know, you can't redshirt anymore tick tocking and Instagramming and all that good stuff. That's that's secondary Secondary you're a football player right when you're new these little young guys and you got to get in there and you got a fucking you got to earn your stripes a grind. It's exciting This is an exciting period. This is where the team is made Hey, we got the guys there's gonna be more free agencies and shit because when all the other teams cut their guys But you know, this is when it starts the team put that phone down put the phone down Close your Netflix account and get to the grind.

Football, football, football, playbook, playbook, playbook. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Get after it. Nightclubs, going out, trying to pick up girls. Hey, that will come. Just do what you gotta do to make the team. Make the team. Because the better you do on the field all the other stuff exactly Mm-hmm the bet the better you are as a player your followers will get up the better

You are as a player and the better your team does the more money you'll make off the field the better you are as a player and the better your team does The better you are as a player and the better your team does. You know, put you in different circles. You probably get hotter chicks too. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That was a knockout right there. Jules hit it right on the money. Just ball out and they will all come.

You don't even have to try that. It all you don't even have to try. She may keep the main thing, the main thing and all things. You just walk in and then you just say, hi, I'm Rob and oh, hi Rob. Exactly. Hi, I'm Jules. Hi, Jules. You're so cute. I like your beard. Oh, you're so hairy. Oh, because you're a squirrel. Oh, you're so furry.

I just want to snuggle you, Jules. You just said you're that's what happens. You just said your name only Jules, but that's what happens when you win ball out on the field. I don't even know what we just. Yeah, me neither. But what letter, what letter grave would you give the Patriots? I give them an A. I mean, I, I truly believe they had probably the best draft in the NFL for what they needed and, and for the value of every pick. So hands down, I give them an A. I truly, like I said, that Henderson pick with the second round, when they took him at running back, I was, I was really thrilled

with that. I mean, great, great value, great job by everyone. And I think he's going to be a, a good guy for offensive corner, Josh McDaniels to work with as well and develop them. I'm excited with the draft. I'm not giving a letter grade. I mean, you can't trade the graph until like two years. You got to see I got to see him take a pro snap. Got to see him be able to call a play in the huddle or take a play digest install day.

You know, seeing something new for the first time, bringing it from the classroom to the drill to the grass, you know, all that stuff. You got to see that. So but hey, they definitely filled some things that they definitely need. And that's that's what you want. You want to fill holes with staple players that what is this? Jules is more of a pass fail kind of guy. I love those pass fail classes and did you ever have any pass fail classes? I think gym class one time, one year it became a pass fail. But you're a pass fail guy and you're not giving out a grade for the Patriots draft. So

was it a pass or was it a fail then, Jules? It's a pass. It is a pass. I understand why you're not giving out grades because they haven't played a snap in football. And I've always wondered that too, because after the draft, you know, all those mock draft people like Mel Kuiper

and all those guys, he'd be like, oh, this team got an A, this team drafted. I give them a C. But how the heck would you possibly know that, you know, you know, until they play a snap of football in the NFL, like you were saying, Julian, but they're just giving the grades for what they think, you know, they need it and how they think they will be in the future for the team. I really want to see those grades and then watch the year, you

know, pan out with all those rookie draft picks and then go back and grade the drafts. That's one thing that's never been done before that I'd never seen on the internet is those draft grades. I want to see them after the season where those rookie draft classes rank and then compare them to the grade that they got after, you know, the three days after the draft. That would be really cool to see and just see it on paper as well to, you know, compare it and see all these draft pundits, you know, how good they really are as well. Well, we should do that next year. Well, we'll do that after the year.

We'll, we'll do a, we'll grade the draft. We'll grade the draft after the year. And Rob, the, the, the reason why they, let me fill you in a little secret. All right. The reason why they grade the draft. So in comparison to their grades, they, they grade them to how they project the guys But who's projecting the guys for which team and who's getting on any there's a whole like I don't get it But that's why I want to compare it to once they play a whole season and then you know and then

Grade how the rookies all dead. It's really two seasons and then yeah, give it to see It's really two seasons because And then, yeah, give it to see. It's really two seasons. Cause I want to see the first year. You know, there's their rookies and they, they could look really good, but. It's more of that. The biggest leap you get is that second year. It's your first time in the off season program.

It's your first time knowing what's going on in, in your schedule life of where you are, where to go. It's your, you know, you have just more comfortability to learn and blossom after your first year, because you already know what it's about. Now you can work on you. And you have some tape to learn, learn from what you need to work on. And Julian, we're talking about the draft and all right now. I just want to go back to a And Julian, we're talking about the draft and all right now.

I just want to go back to a prior episode when we were talking when, remember I said that, you know, my mom saw me pissed off two times in my life. And one of them was when I wasn't drafted in the first round of the draft in 2010. Well, technically I kind of was drafted in the first round because for my sources, I'm pretty sure the Baltimore Ravens were going to pick me. I think it was around like the 25th pick that they had in the draft. And I'm not 100 percent accurate, but I've heard, you know, through the grapevine that they were going to grab me with the 25th pick.

But then Denver and Josh McDaniels came scooping in and traded with the Baltimore Ravens at the 25th pick, which put the Ravens back at the 43rd pick. And the Denver Broncos took Tim Tebow with Josh McDaniels as the head coach. So then I was not going to be drafted in the first round because of that. I just got booted out of the first round because the Baltimore Ravens wanted me. And then the Ravens have the 43rd pick now. They felt like hey we were the only ones gonna draft them you know in the first round we could possibly get them in the second now that's why we traded out to Denver. While then the New England Patriots got you know a sniff of it and they traded up one spot before the

Baltimore Ravens, you know, at number 42, where I got drafted. And on top of this, I also heard through a grapevine that if I didn't get drafted to the New England Patriots, Greg Olson, who was the tight end of the Chicago Bears at the time was going to the Baltimore Ravens for trading out to the Denver Broncos and not drafting me in the first round. But technically what I was getting to Jules is I am a first rounder, baby. I'm just saying that I'm just saying that I'm just saying that I'm just saying

that I'm just saying that I'm just saying that I'm just saying that I'm just saying that I'm just saying that I'm just saying that I'm just saying that I'm just saying for trading out to the Denver Broncos and not drafting me in the first round. But technically what I was getting to Jules is I am a first rounder, baby. All that just to hear that. Well, you're a first rounder in my eyes, Rob. You are too, Jules, to me. I appreciate that. So, Mr. Irrelevant, Kobe Miner.

Kobe A. Miner. Didn't they, someone tweeted that? Who tweeted that? The Patriots. That's ours? We have them? We have Mr. Irrelevant? Yeah.

Oh shit, that's tight. Yeah, great draft from the Patriots. Great drafts. It's crazy, Brock Purdy has made the Mr. Irrelevant tag really a lot, you know, cooler now. But it used to be kind of like a make a wish for a guy. Now it's like, shit, you can be Brock Purdy. Get paid 60 million dollars, maybe.

Hey, Jules, I can also tell you this. It doesn't matter where you get drafted. It doesn't matter if you sign as an undrafted free agent, it's all. Matters with what you do with your opportunity, because every undrafted free agent is going to get a shot. They're going to be put in with the first team at some point or the second team. And it's going to say, Hey, the ball is going to come to you. Let's see what you can, what you can do. Are you going to get open hey, the ball is going to come to you. Let's see what you can do.

Are you going to get open? Can you block this guy? And if you can't, well, then your opportunity is going to start closing as soon as possible. But if you can pick up the block, if you can make that catch, you know, when your number is called, well, then you're going to get another chance.

And then you're going to get another chance. So if you showcase your skills, no matter, you know, where you were picked up, if it was the seventh round, if it was the first round, if you were undrafted free agent, you're where you were picked up. If it was the seventh round, if it was the first round, if you were undrafted free agent, you're gonna get an opportunity. It's what you do with that opportunity one given. So keep your hopes up everyone.

If you were disappointed, if you were drafted in the seventh round, sixth round, fifth round, or didn't get drafted at all, you're still gonna get that shot and go out there. You either prove them wrong or you prove them right and go prove them wrong. You got it. Now that you're all in the same place, doesn't matter where you're drafted now, it matters how you play, matters if you line up the right way, what matters if you, you know, you can

do the little things, the daily life of a pro athlete. It's going to be hard, but you'll have an opportunity. you can do the little things, the daily life of a pro athlete. It's going to be hard, but you'll have an opportunity. Now, did you hear this story about raves, putting on the pads and working out Campbell? I heard a little bit of it. I heard that variables put, he wanted to put the pads on to fill the kid. What if raves came and put his pads on and tried to cover you in a workout? What would you do Rabe's? I would go full speed, full out.

Like how can you not? I mean, this is the head coach of the New England Patriots coming to your workout just to see what you got in. That's a time where you just can't half ass it. And that's what he wants to see too. Are you scared that I'm in front of your face right now, that the head coach is in front of your face? Are you going to tense up or you're going to still be loose

and you're going to punch the heck out of them? And that's what Will Campbell did. I heard that he punched him like offensive lineman and that variable one flying backwards. And I really think that's what made variable really fall in love with this guy. As Coach Scar said back in the day a rat's ass Doesn't matter about arm lathe. It's all about what you can do with what you've been given Jules And that's will Campbell for you. It doesn't matter if you got alligator arms

It's what he can do with them and those alligators are fierce and they're deadly. And that's Will Campbell for you. I think coach said he doesn't give a rat's ass about arm length. It's all about what you could do. We'll wait. You've been given, but I loved, I loved the character. That was a good one. Thanks to us. I knew I was, you know, somewhere in the ballpark.

He's saying all the right things. I'm excited for the future we have in Foxborough. And I think we've got a special season coming. I'm going to fight and die to protect Drake may with everything I've got. That's right. I that that that's the left tackle that you want. I mean, all, all he has to do now is show up and produce. I mean, everything's, you know, being said the right way, you know,

the draft pick was great. He's doing some great interviews, but what really truly matters is what you do when it comes down to the stretch and hall of it all, when it comes down to training camp, when it comes down to the regular season games and the playoffs, it's all about showing up and performing, so we love everything so far, and now it's just time to put him to work, develop him, get him, you know, ready to to speed to be that, you know, every play, every down tackle and to have that trust

in Drake May as well that he can just drop back and just fire in his backside Blind side protection is good to go. So that's what really matters now, baby. He's a big boy 663 19. I Mean, he's he's won every damn trophy there is he's known as a nasty fucking player I'm not worried. He must got big big booty and big quads because he actually looks so slim. I think he's all packing in his legs and that's as, as an offense alignment, that's where you want to pack, you know, all your strength and power and explosiveness is in your legs.

That's how you get the move guys. It's not about how strong you are up top. Yeah, you got to be strong up top. But if you got lower body strength, I mean, you can push a car, you can haul a car, you can push a defender. you can haul a car, you can push a defender. It doesn't matter how big they are. So I think that's where he's packing his weight and powers right where you need to write in

those hips, glutes and thighs. You know that that's an offensive lineman for you. You know, there's a quote that came out that he said, you see that dad, they got a bass pro shop right there. Easy access. I'm going to be on my mat light timing hunting right behind the stadium. You know what that tells me? He's a games with names fan. He's he's watched it.

So I'm a fan of him. And I can't wait to see him fucking get that line going. OK. He's got to be regardless. He's first to be regardless. He's first rounder. You're the guy now. You're the guy. Be the guy.

We need it. We'll be right back after this quick break. Another thing about the draft Julian is that everyone's like, wow, there weren't really that many quarterbacks selected, you know, and a lot of quarterbacks fell this year and slipped. Well, not every year there's gonna be six quarterbacks drafted in the top 15 picks, Julian. And that was last year, there was six guys

that were drafted in the top 15 picks. And every year in the draft, the needs are different for teams on an every single year given basis. So when people are surprised, oh, what happened to the quarterback market? Well, last year there was six of them draft in top 15, not that many teams need quarterbacks this year. And it's some years there's a couple of offensive tackles drafted in the top, you know, 10 picks.

And then other years, there's no offensive tackles, you know, drafted. It's all about the team's needs. It's all about the players that are best available to at whatever position it is going into the draft. So it's not just about, you know, quarterbacks, it's about these team needs, and the best available player that is available at that given time in the draft. Have we talked about the chador and stuff yet? No, we haven't.

Uh, but like I said, what do you think about that slide? Well, the Shador slide. Well, this, this is what I got to say about a Shador. Like I was saying earlier, it doesn't matter, you know, where you truly get drafted, it just matters what you do with the opportunity when you get that opportunity and he's going to have an abundance of opportunities, even though he was drafted in the fifth round, you got to prove it. Nothing's given.

You got to earn it. Even if you're a first rounder. Yeah. They're going to give you a hundred bit, you know, a hundred more opportunities to develop. But with that being said, as a fifth rounder and having such a big name still, Chador is going to get a plentiful amount of opportunities, you know, to showcase his skills.

And it's what you do with it. It's how you ball out. It's how you perform. It's how you get into the playbook and start learning the plays, getting on the same chemistry as the wide receivers, as your offensive line, knowing the defenses, knowing the blitz packages that the defenses are going to present to you, knowing how to pick them up, getting the ball out fast. That's what you got to do, you know, no matter, you know, push the door, no matter where he was drafted.

So it's all about him now and what he does with the situation. It is. And I agree a hundred million percent. I mean, it's definitely humbling, but you know, Hey, there's going to be an opportunity you could either do one thing, you can get into two things. You can sulk from this whole thing and, and, and let it affect you, or you could use it as a motivation and let it motivate you. Regardless of what happened, why he's there,

to Rob's point, he's gonna have an opportunity. And it's gonna be a tougher opportunity. They drafted a guy in the third round. They're telling you that you're not the backup quarterback. So maybe this could be a turning point in his career that slingshots him into where he wants to go. It's the first case where I've actually seen a player drop significantly in so many rounds as well. Yeah, we've seen quarterbacks that were supposed to be top 10 picks, but then they only dropped to like, you know,

it's still in the first round, but just to the bottom of the first round or players that are supposed to be top 10 picks, but then they only drop to like, you know, it's still in the first round, but just to the bottom of the first round or players that are supposed to be top 10 picks. And they go into second round. I just never seen a player actually drop, you know, from first round all the way to the fifth round like that. So that was a pretty crazy situation. Definitely a humbling situation, which could be, you know, better off in the long run for Chador as well. And it also gives you that much more motivation. I'm always talking about, you know, how I was disappointed. I didn't go in the first round, but let me tell you, and also how I didn't go to the,

you know, pick by the Buffalo Bills, my hometown. But let me tell you, I used that as motivation to the highest power, Julian. And that's what you got to do. Every time we played the Buffalo Bills, I remember that they motivation to the highest power, Julian. And that's what you gotta do. Every time we played the Buffalo Bills, I remember that they didn't draft me. And what did I do to the Buffalo Bills, Jules? You killed them every single time.

Every single time. I was catching phase. You literally gave a people's elbow one time. Exactly. And got suspended. That's how freaking, that's how juiced up I was getting every single time I played the Bills, just them back that people's album was just for the front office organization that was there when they pass on me in the draft Julian. So use that as motivation should do your and just do your thing.

Do your thing out on the football field. You know, I was, I liked the Giants draft. Yeah. They got Abdul Carter. Yeah. I think with the third, third liked the giants draft. Yeah. They got Abdul Carter. Yeah. I think with the third, third pick in the draft, who's going to be a star, but was he serious? Was he serious asking for LT's number?

Yeah. You were a high draft pick, but LT is an absolute legend. The best to do it. One of the best defenders of all time. And let me tell you, brother, like you got to prove yourself. Just that's crazy. Just asking for LT's number. time and let me tell you brother, like you got to prove yourself. Just that's crazy. Just asking for LT's number. I'm glad LT shut them down like that.

LT did the LT move, man. LT that was such an LT response. Go make your own freaking number kid. What would bill said to the kid if he asked for 56 at the New York football Giants. No, nobody. Yeah, there's one LT and you're not LT. Yeah, you're not even close to being LT. So how about you just get the fuck out of my office and get in your playbook? Because you haven't done shit yet. And now you get number 62 you for just

being an asshole. You kind of went out there to me. Brooklyn accent. All right. It wasn't bad. It was one of my better impersonations. You know, I'm not the impersonator Julian you are but I gave it my best shot there. I mean, I feel like the words were on, but just the rhythm of it and how coach speaks wasn't exactly there. But I think the wording was good. How about what would you say?

I think he would laugh at it. I think he'd be I think he'd be like, look, can we can we just can we make a play before we try to ask for the greatest football player in the history of the game's number? Like, can we can we fucking put on our goddamn jersey before? Can we know where to line up before we like he would say something like that? How about my boy? My rival, Arizona State running back Cam Scatabolt going in the fourth round to the New York Giants Dable and the Giants and company they had a great draft man. I think this guy is gonna be a very valuable pick He's kind of like a bowling ball, you know as a running back hard to take down

You know blue collar guy even though even though he's a sun devil, I really like him. And I truly believe he was part of the reason why the Arizona State Sun Devils just turned it around their program. Just like that was because of Kam Scatabow. And if you watch the playoff game this year, he literally carried the whole entire Arizona State Sun Devils team basically to have a chance in that playoff game.

They didn't win it, but without him, they would have gotten blown out. But I really liked this guy. I love how he runs with the ball. He has no fear. And I think he's going to be used in a lot of different ways with the brilliant mind that Dable has. I think he's going to get abused as well, used and abused because of the way that he runs.

He's going to have to learn ways to protect themselves and when to get down and when the plays over, you know, get down on some certain tackles, but he's going to do a good job and he's going to have a lot of, you know, uses for this offense. Yeah. And then the Jackson dart trade in the first, the trade back into the first pick. I mean, he kind of reminds me a little bit of a young Josh Allen.

I don't think he's as visually, or as physically big as Josh, but he's gotten better every year in college. He's got a, I watched his Gruden thing. Those Gruden quarterback camps have been awesome to watch because you can get a real little tale, a tell of how these guys are going to be when they're in the locker room or in a meeting, how their demeanor is going to be. Are they wanting to learn, are they making too much

joke time out of shit, are they trying to, you know what I mean, like you can see a lot of that stuff and you know, he was a cool kid. You know, he's confident, he definitely needs to learn how to get down and protect himself, he's very reckless with the football and his body, very reckless with his body and he'll learn he'll get baptized in the national football league and be reminded that you can't do that and

if he doesn't he'll be on the sideline so in day ball you know day ball had to develop fucking josh josh allen so it's a good guy to be developed by i hope i hope that the giants give day ball day ball you, the time to do this. Because it wasn't his fault for doing the things in the past that that team has done. Let's move on to the next Travis Hunter going to Jacksonville. Browns, Patriots, or Giants, name one of those teams that he goes to. I don't think he's going to the Giants or the Browns. I don't think the Patriots are going to get him either.

Well then where is he going? Well who's next? Kansas City Chiefs? No. He's dropping to the top ten. To the 31st pick. I hope he doesn't go to the Browns. I don't think the Patriots are gonna get him either. Well, then where is he going? Well, who's next Kansas City Chiefs? No, he's dropping top 10 to the 31st pick. I hope he doesn't go to the Jags I don't hope he goes to the Jags either. I bet you the Jags pick him up though. No, they can't go to the Jags. I think Travis Hunter will go to the Jags. It won't be fun though if he goes to Jacksonville. Someone trade up for him. It needs to be a fun market for Travis Hunter. He needs to go to like a New York market, Patrice market, like something like that.

Even Cleveland's better than Jacksonville. Is he the most talented player in the draft? Of course, because he plays both ways. Well, it's going to be exciting. But he has to go to a market where it's exciting as well. The Jaguars isn't really an exciting market. Even when the Jaguars are good, it's still not that exciting. Jaguars haven't been exciting since Mark Brunel retired.

We basically called it. He's going to Jacksonville. I called it. since Mark Brunel retired, we basically called it. He's going to Jacksonville. I called it. Yeah, you did. You did call it Jules and I was wrong. You know, I just, I didn't see the fit, you know, going to the city of Jacksonville because Travis Hunter is an electric player. The organization of the Jacksonville Jaguars hasn't been electric in quite some

time, like you said, since quarterback Mark Brunel, what kind of made it fit, you know, is that the new regimen for the Jacksonville Jaguars, I feel like are trying to change that perspective of the Jacksonville Jaguars because they traded up for him which made it more powerful it was more impactful that eighth grade GM was heartfelt about it and the Jags feel like he's a new style of an NFL player so it can boom that organization hey we're transcending now and we're gonna be that team that's exciting And that's electrifying. And Travis Hunter is going to lead the way.

So I may possibly be wrong with what I said earlier, and I am here to say I was wrong if it happens to be electrifying. You know, this, this James Gladstone introduction, holy shit, this guy should get a fucking Oscar. That was like the tone. I was just watching about cadence on public speaking, and this guy hit everything to a whole. How old is he? He's a young guy. Thirty two years old, The guy can speak. That old Gladstone, I tip my cap to you as a,

like that was a fucking, I felt like he's 34, he's 34 year old. I felt like that was like, we're about to start a movie or something. I wanted to get, I got my popcorn, I was eating there, watching this, and that guy's storytelling and his, his everything. It was spectacular.

And, you know, it's a good move for them, like exactly for the point of what we argued four weeks ago, whenever we dropped that there hasn't been any excitement in Jacksonville. They got Trevor Lawrence. They wanted him to be the exciting factor. He hasn't, you know, they brought in a bunch the exciting factor. He has it. You know, they brought in a bunch of free agents, the Kirk's and all the other guys. They have Josh Allen on defense is a really good football player.

They got good players, but no one is making them exciting. And this move shows and proves their fans. Hey guys, we want, we want some excitement too. So here we're going to give you the most exciting football player in the draft. And, and, and I think that's, that was a slam dunk move for them. And it shows, you know, where their minds at. I think it was cool. They even added a swimming pool to their stadium, like a couple of years ago to try to make it exciting to get, you know,

fans to the games. I mean, if you ask me, I thought that was pretty cool. I would have definitely been the guy to be in that swimming pool while watching a football game, especially back in the day. Yeah, it looks really cool. So, hey, I got a question. What? Because the Jacksonville Jaguars, they play over in London about two times a year.

Do you think that Travis Hunter will be the best selling Jersey in London, Jules? I don't know. Probably right? I would say so. Honestly, if they put them on like kickoffs and kickoff returns, because the fans in London, they go so crazy over our special team plays because there's something being kicked. So they're like reminded of soccer. So if he like houses a kick in London.

Oh, yeah, they'll fucking love him over there. He'll be he'll be the light over that might. Good old day, mate. Travis Hunter, my favorite player. All right, Jules, any final thoughts in the draft? What do you got? I liked what the Rams did collecting a first-round draft pick next year in a quarterback fertile draft Less need man. They've hit on like I'm

This is like watching him watching Howie Roseman jumping the first round and get the Alabama linebacker watching less need trade out like the those are the guys. I think that's the cream of the crop of the GM's and I watching these guys because less need anytime you hit on a puka Nakua in the fifth, you hit a Kyron Williams in the fifth after selling your soul to the devil for a Super Bowl, which they did, you have to hit on your draft picks and they've been hitting on their draft picks, the versus kid last year, you got like six and a half sacks. They're hitting and building their team back up

from the quarterback thing that they had to do to get their Super Bowl. They're building through the team, uh, through the draft, which, and I love seeing that I can't wait to see this. This Terrence Ferguson tight end, you know, with Matthew Stafford, Matthew Staff Higsby has been really good, but Higsby has been kind of hurt. Anytime Sean McVay and Lesney draft, uh, running back in the fourth round, just take a look, take a look at this guy's name because they know how to make their running backs go.

Look at Kyron Williams, fifth round draft pick. He's been balling out. Now they get a nice, fresh set of legs. Anytime you had a big boy at the D line level, that's depth. And then the receiver in the seventh, we'll see what's going on. But you know, I liked that draft.

I liked that they didn't like what they wanted in the seventh we'll see what's going on but you know I liked that draft I like that they didn't like what they wanted in the first round said hey we'll go I think less need something said like we'll get our gratification or gratification next year or something for that first round thing let's jump into the chills dude of the week brought to you by our favorite beer Coors Light get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coors light dot com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly. Jules, I got my Coors light in my hand. It's nice and chill and it's cold as the Rockies.

Mm hmm. You know what I love with these when we do the the the reeds? What do you love about it? They so good. You know, like when at the end where it's like, I feel like I'm in a commercial or somewhere that you say golden Colorado beer or whatever it is, you know, they always have like golden period refreshing period beer, whatever it is. I like that. But for this dude's Chill is Due to the Week, we're gonna do

a couple different things. First up, we are gonna shout out to the Koreatown Senior Center to the Korea town senior center and the community center of Los Angeles harmonica class. Why are we shouting them out? The LA Kings did Korean heritage night last month and had these ladies, these beautiful ladies come play the national anthem on their harmonicas and they won big. and now they've been playing Before the playoff games. Yeah, hold on hit that buzzer again. I really like that buzzer or no That's not even a buzzer. That's the harmonica

It sounded like it was a buzzer the first note that you played like they scored a goal Because it is like scoring a goal celebrating the Korean Heritage night Because it is like scoring a goal celebrating the Korean Heritage Night thank you to course light for making that night more wonderful to feeling good and tipsy and Quenching your thirst What a nice cold beer as cold as the Rockies Mmm, and now they've been playing before the playoff games and LA scored 13 goals in the first two games so games and LA scored 13 goals in the first two games. So they got to win game six tonight to bring it home for crazy game seven and therefore they can bring the ladies back for

game seven as well. So shout out to the LA Kings and the Korean town senior community center of Los Angeles. Harmonica class. Keep doing something. A jersey music in the years is heaven. Thank you. It's heaven that harmonica. And, you know, you know, we're Bruins, we're Bruins, we're Bruins pod or Bruins pod, but our Bruins aren't in right now. They trade nose face killer. I don't know what the fuck's going on over there their season killed their you know, our little bride our murky

murky gone We didn't even in the playoffs Fuck is going on out here So we decided to keep our hockey love And the LA Kings are on all the time out here So, you know shout out to them and the harmonica ladies of the Korean town senior senator center Getting those harmonicas blasting To get them some goals go Kings go go Kings go

And hey, what about what about a shout out to our boy on the Dallas stars? He's coming back for the playoffs. Not really sure how he's doing or how the stars are doing, but I know they're in playoff contention. You know who I'm talking about. Tyler Sagan, baby. Having a heck of a career down in Dallas. That was our boy when we were, you know, up in Boston when he was on the brooms his first couple of years, when he was a young buck, like 19, 20, 21 years old, we were like 22, 23. And then he got shipped down to the stars and he's having a heck of a career

down now, down there. And Dallas is up three, two right now on the avalanche. And I'm pretty sure that Sagan was activated off of the injured list as well. And he's probably just had a kid. So congrats to all segs. I think he had a kid a couple of months injured list as well. And he's probably just had a kid. So congrats to all segs. I think he had a kid a couple of months ago. Congrats, buddy.

Boy, has he grown up? Have we all grown up? Time has changed. And you gotta grow up, Jules. If you don't grow up, man, life is going to be tough. You gotta grow up. Yeah. Now the other chillest dude of the week is you callers, right,

guys? We love these awesome call-ins. So let's hit the old chill line and see what you guys are up to. And again, that number is 5 6 1 2 0 3 5 7 8 9. Let's go! Hey, this is Stacy from Texas and I love your podcast and I was just wondering how you keep the same frame of mind when you're broadcasting from podcasting because do you ever slip and cuss on air? So love your show, keep it up, thanks a lot. It's a really great question because there's times when I'm in, you know, the pre-production

meetings and we're going over the show and you drop an F and you're like, oh shit, I can't fucking can't say that. You know what I mean? And so there is, it is putting on a different cap, your podcast cap and your, your, your talking, uh, with to the FCC cap. So yeah, it's definitely a different thing, but you just, we've been so trained through our life as pro athletes, kind of when we're addressing the media to kind of keep it semi-clean,

that I have, I think I have slipped up on air and said something that I wasn't supposed to. When I'm broadcasting, Stacey, I feel like I'm on more pins and needles. You know, I'm more aware of the situation that I'm on live TV. I'm more presented to not say something outrageous because I I know it's live and you can't take it back. And also I want to be more prepared and you can't take it back. And also I wanna be more prepared when I'm broadcasting because when you're podcasting, you know, it's not live. You can go over some notes right on the spot.

Just broadcasting makes you wanna be on the higher side of preparation and that's the difference I feel like. I love that. Hey, Gronton Jules, what's up? I was just wondering, I just got a big juicy bonus at work and I was looking to take the wife on a vacation, somewhere nice, somewhere good to treat ourselves.

And I was wondering, what are your favorite vacation destinations? Let me know. Thanks, guys. I got them. It was just somewhere where I just was recently too in the last few weeks, and that's the Bahamas. I feel like it's an easy flight to NASA.

You can get a direct from Florida or from New York or wherever you're coming from, hopefully. So it makes the travel easy. But what's great about the Bahamas as well is it's not too far from the United States. And then they got crystal clear turquoise ocean water. And I'm a big fan of ocean water. I just love that salt water on my skin.

It makes you blossom. It just makes you shine. Uh, it just takes away the inflammation from the muscles that I just love so much. It makes Ninkovic think that you're on Botox. Yes, it makes Ninkovic think that he was commenting in our, uh, comment section saying grunts on Botox. It's because I was actually in the Bahamas in the sun on a daily basis and in the ocean and the turquoise water and it was just making me blossom. So

I would go to Bahamas, especially Bahamara, wonderful place, tons of activities, a water park, wonderful beaches, good food, really good food. Yes. If you can, if you want, if you love jet skiing, love boating, they got all that too, that you can rent and I'm telling your wife, she, I mean, what wife doesn't love pictures. So it's a great spot to take pictures as well. Yeah, you know, I think with this particular type of vacation, because it's from a work bonus. You gotta go beach. You gotta go beach.

Now, regardless if it's in the Bahamas, you're gonna go to the Keys. Let me throw a little kicker out there if you want a little, I love the Bahamas. The Bohemian people, is that all right to say? Is that what they say? Yeah, that's totally fine, Bohemian. Dude, they're all so fucking cool.

Every time, like, they're really cool people that are chill. Hawaii gives you that same kind of thing with the Hawaiian lifestyle. I also like Cabo or Mexico. Cause we're picking places with beautiful beaches. But I like Mexico cause I like the Mexican food. I like the food in Cabo. You know, I like when you get the fresh guacamole

and you get the little street tacos and enchiladas. I love all that shit. But you're not gonna go wrong with either of those. But definitely a beach vacation somewhere. Congrats on your bonus. Keep it going, bubs. And this is our last one. Let's get our last one.

Hey, this question's for Gronk. I'm an offensive coordinator at a high school level. And I'm thinking a lot recently, I got a big tight end, very athletic like you. What does he have to do for me to get him open as much as you did in the play action game? You slip through, he's got a decent quarterback. I want to know what I can do to get him open. Well, the biggest thing coach is to get him to grind in the blocking game, to make him a great blocker. That's what I'm talking about, Julian. I love that harmonica.

You got to bring it every single time we podcast. It just enlightens my mode. It just brightens my mind when I hear that music to my ear. So keep doing that whenever. Oh, there we go, baby. I'm just tingling right now from my head to my toes, baby. And that's what I'm talking about. I feel like I can dance all night long and just tippy

tap all over the place. Hit it one more time, Jules. Oh, coach, that's the sound that you want to hear when your tight end releases and it's a play action out of the backfield and kaboom, the quarterback just dumped it right off to your tight end. So give him the block, give him the be nasty in the blocking game. So every single time that it's a play action,

the linebackers are scared of him and step up, you know, to, to, you know, to stop to, you know, to stop that run and then kaboom, he has to have a good feel about where to get open on the play action as well. It's going to be different every single time in the play action game on where to go to, because it all depends on how hard the linebackers step up to the line of scrimmage when that play action is going down and make sure your quarterback is selling it to in the backfield with the running back and

Repetition after repetition so he gets the feel of where he should be out with the quarterback out there So make him a fierce blocker and then have him have that feel of where he should be on the field with linebackers stepping up to stop the run. I love it, Jules. Yeah, you got to get you got a block. The only reason Gronk got so open because guys were they had to brace to hit them. And he'd slip right by him. Because he was so there, you know, he was such a force in the block game.

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