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Episode Date: December 20, 2025

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Lawrence Taylor. Always gets a hard on for Lawrence Taylor, but he had another full. He got about like three-quartered job for Ed Reed. We used to call Ed Reed, Ed Reed Bellichick. So let's see what AIS to say. But you couldn't blame Coach Belichick. None of that because Adder Reed was a baller. He was a baller.

Athletic. All right. Start the clock. Ed Reed standing at 5.1411 and weighing 205 pounds. Ed Reed played safety for the Baltimore, Ravens, Houston, Texans, and New York Jets. The Jets? When you played for the Jets? Late, late, 2013.

Must have been one season. One season. Drafted 24th overall. He just probably wanted that, you know, final check because why would he go to the? Jets in 2013. All right. We'll talk about that later. Draft the 24th overall in 2002.

Out of the University of Miami, he was known for his high football IQ, playmaking ability and unmatched leadership. He was a game changer finishing his career with 64 interceptions, 1,090 interception return yards. Jesus. And seven defensive touchdowns. He was a nine-time pro bowler, 2004 NFL defense player of the air in his all-time NFL leader in interception return yards.

I was going to say that right when I heard that number as well. I was like, that has to be an all-time record. I remember. No one must be close. He played his entire career with the Baltimore Ravens. Oh, wait, wait a second. AI. AI, you just said he played for three teams in the first sentence.

And now the last sentence, he played his entire career with the Baltimore Ravens. That ain't true. And help bring them their second Super Bowl victory with a win over the 49ers in Super Bowl 47. Now, he played for three teams, Houston, Texans, and the New York Jets. But he had his best. you know, career years, obviously, with the Baltimore Ravens. And then just finished off with the irrelevant years. It didn't matter.

He's definitely a Baltimore Raven for life. Miami Hurricane, football player for life, the U. I mean, he's known. He helped put the U on the map and also help, you know, put that defense of the Baltimore Ravens on the map as well. This is why. Ray Lewis was there. Yeah, Ray Lewis.

I mean, that's why they were known as the toughest defense in the NFL. Ray Lewis, Ed Reed. and what's this T-sizzle Yeah, T-sizzle Drouse sucks Palloti Nata Oh holodynada man

That dude Oh my gosh He's like Vita Vaya basically 360 pounds Just massive blows up holes You can't move them But what's the first thing you think of About Ed Reed when you hear his name Jules

First thing I think of Is cover for Red Area Him blowing me up I'm sorry He blew me up in that Remember when we played there First of all I'm sorry

I ask you this question Yeah Yeah, he, uh... Yeah, he did blow you up. Remember that when we were playing there? Uh, he... Oh, oh. Yeah, he lit me up.

Oh, but you got right back up, though. I did. I ended up scoring. You're a tough S-O-B, Jules. But that, no, he... You're a tough son of a gun. He was just the first thing, like, he was just everywhere. Like, what's that one?

There's that one thing. Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water. The other third is covered by Ed Reed. Like, that is what I think of when I think of Ed Reed. Got to compete against him from a very young age at my rookie year. And that's when we were going, they were coming and beating us in Foxborough. We were battling them in the AFC championship. You remember those early years that we battled them?

That was like our Denver in the back of our career, where we were going, playing the toughest. You know what I mean? It just was always a battle. And Ed Reed was just a very unpredictable dude to try to get a beat. on. He baited QBs in the mistakes all the time. All the time. You ever meet him? I never met Ed Reed. No, never

have, man. And it was good because I really never met him on the field either, which is a good thing. I played my rookie year, but I really didn't play that much versus the Baltimore. Ravens is my rookie year. Probably like 20, 30 plays. I never really had a chance to match up with him. And then he was kind of on to the next teams, like those irrelevant

years on those teams of just not really playing versus him. But I just remember him. in the heyday though, which was good. I'm glad that his heyday was before my heyday because I probably wouldn't have had a hayday then if there's had Reed still in his heyday when I was there. But just what I really loved about him

was just his range. I mean, yes, he was a guesser and he baited quarterbacks in the mistakes, but also he would bait him in the mistakes and then have that range to cover that mistake that the quarterback is making. Yeah. He would get you to throw that deep ball

and act like he was out of coverage. But he was so fast and athletic, he would go and get that deep ball and make that interception. Do I know how good at Reed was? Tell him, Jules, how good he was. What did Tom have to do in the playoffs in 2011 in the AFC championship game?

What did he have to do? Because Ed Reed was just that guy. I remember he used to have to put on his wristband because, you know, for extended play, sometimes if you had to check with me, you'd have a lengthy verbiage thing. So we'd put it on there. I bet you he remember he had the reminder that said fine number 20

because he was just that big of a focal point of that defense. You know what I mean? That's how much. It wasn't just fine number 20. It was fine number 20 on every play. Every play. Locate them and throw the ball the other way. It didn't say throw the ball the way.

But you got to find him. Yep, you got to find him. You got to know where he is. You got a base to play off of him. You got to alert it. You got alert alert. Alert. When Tom's doing that, that means he doesn't like where 20 is.

Exactly. without a doubt. And I remember plays where Tom used to talk about, you know, he'd watch Ed Reed and Ed Reed would be on the ground. And he's got like the deep third and he'd be on the ground in the box lying on the ground like a goddamn lion and then get up and sprint back there and go pick a ball. Like that's kind of instinct that he had. But what I loved about Ray also, because early on my career, I was a return. I was a special teamer. And whenever we played against Baltimore Ravens on all units, he was a fucking problem on our punt return unit or our punt team he had the up and under on the field goal block he had the up and under like he used to block kicks scoop scores he returned kicks for touchdowns he just was an all around fucking unbelievable football player that young football players need to watch and and not try to emulate because not everyone can be ed read not everyone can do that but like understand that like this dude's like a freak who would you say the better safety between the two ultimate safeties in the AFC North.

Troy Palomalu or Ed Reed? That's so hard. They're different players. I think of Ed is more of a deep safety, like a free. I think of Paulo Malu more of a like a strong safety. So I think they're different, both just electric football players that you want to play with. Like I would love to get to play with them because the amount of practice against them that you would get, like it would make you a better football player. Sure it would.

Iron sharpens. What do you think? It depends on the scheme. It depends on the defense of coach what their mindset is. Like you said, if you have a scheme where the safeties, you know, are blitzing more and making more plays in the backfield and acting more of like a linebacker, you got to go with Troy Palomalu. But if you have a scheme where it's more about coverage, you got to go with Ed Reed, no doubt about it. I mean, this guy could cover any part of the field at any given time, even if he's on one side.

If he has one half of the field, he can go to the other half and give help to the safety. he wants the ball is releasing so fast and just so quick. And what's so great about him, too, is just his ball skills, man. He would, like, tip that ball to him, like, all the time for an interception. Like, he had wide receiver skills. Post interception, he'd be throw, he'd throw the ball back. They always, you always had to be alert for a lateral or, or remember, he stole the ball from his teammate to pick it when he was about to fall down.

Out of players who didn't play for Coach Belichick, who do you think on the Mount Rushmore of guys that he loves? Because I, for sure, Ed Reed would be on. Obviously, Lawrence Taylor. We just talked about that. Well, he played for him, but that we didn't play with. That we didn't play with. What do you mean?

Like that coach that didn't coach? Yeah, maybe that. So, because he coached Lawrence Taylor. He coached Lawrence Taylor. But he's still on there. He's still on there. He's still on there. He's still on there because he loves Lawrence Taylor.

All right. Ed Reed. I would say, Ed Reed is might, might be number one then. The guy that coached Belich never coached. Never coached. Dreamed of coaching. Yeah. Sorry, Devin McCordy.

Yeah. Well, we got you back. You want to rate dudes on dudes. Well, Coach Balochek loved that read. Got him. What else would be on there? Who else did he love? Probably like a punner.

Oh, I mean, well, he coached Cam New and he loved Cam New and always talk about Cam New and you got to contain him in the pocket, but then he coached Cam New. So that one doesn't really count, but it was him. Love Peyton Manning, no doubt about it. Love. Another guy, a legend played way back in the day, Jim Brown. Bill, Bill love Jim Brown. He, whenever, that is, that is such a good pool.

Because any time there'd be just guys, we'd be slap dicking in the locker room and Bill would be coming in with this little fucking towel, you know, you'd go to the treadmill with this binder in his town, he'd go in to watch some film on the treadmill. and guys would be arguing about shit. You know, Bill sometimes would say something. He'd be like, hey, you know what I mean? And I remember someone, guys were arguing about top, top running backs of all time.

Oh, it's this guy, it's this guy. And I think he just said, Jim Brown? You guys don't know fucking Jim Brown's the best football player. Like, he loves Jim Brown. Loves him. Loves Jim Brown. All right. What about Ed Reed's, you know, college days?

He was, he was the guy at the U. Like, he exemplified what the U was, all about tough hard-nosed football players that gave no damn no damn out there out on the field gave it their all and this just represents him in just one play where you got jules about that i mean him at the year right there look at yeah Miami versus Boston college 2001 Miami was up 12-7 late in the game and Boston college was in the red zone do you remember this play yeah one of the most famous college football players of all time he got deflected into what one of his defense alignment yeah ad read strips the ball from him

him and takes it 80 yards to the house. Yeah. Just dangerous. And they ended up winning 18 to 7. Flashy. Like, they're defensive. Like,

just fun flashes. Playmaker. Yeah, we'll put it in, he's also like a speech giver. You know, you look at this one speech. I'm sitting there.

They're up 21 to 3 at halftime. He was pissed at Miami's effort because they were like national champion hopes. This was when the U is the freaking you. And you go and Ed Reed, I'm hurt dog. Don't ask me if I'm all right. I'll put my heart in this shit. let's go man and what happened they go out and blow them out 49 to 27 and then what what happened

the end of the year Miami didn't lose the rest of season they won the national championship bc s national championship that is 2001 the you was the you who didn't love to you he's on the mount rushmore you guys too isn't he he hundred percent is ray lewis mm-hmm i mean what what offensive guys michael irving uh gore's there shocky there's a couple there's a bunch of tight ends what about Johnson. Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Warren Sapp. Oh, man. The list goes on and on. I want to hear what people think who's on that. Big V. How can you forget about Big B? Dude. Greg Olson, I mean, you got a lot of players. This was when we were kids, man. I remember. You know what? I love the you. I got an offer from the U to go play tight end there. I wasn't going to go there. It was at the

very end. And I just thought like I was complete because I got the offer from the U. Like it just made me satisfied. Like, yeah, I could play it to you, but I'm not going there, but I could play that. I got the offer. I was, you know, very happy. The you, when I was, you know, when you're in eighth grade and you do that thing where you write a letter to yourself and then your teacher saves it and then sends it to you when you're a senior in high school. Mine's went along the lines of something like this. Like, it's good to see that you're probably going to be signing your commitment letter to University of Miami. I hope you enjoy the sunshine. I wanted to go to the U so bad, I wrote to myself in eighth grade to fucking myself in the future.

And little did I know I was ending up at Juko and didn't, didn't go to the U. And then Kent, it was kind of, it was close to you. It's close. Because there's Miami, Ohio that was in your conference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was close enough, there was close. It was close. It would have ended up at Kent.

It was like, that letter was like, all right, we can't do the U, but we can do the Kent, which is kind of near Miami, but. The Miami, Ohio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it would work. Or else you would have never got the offer to go to Kent. And then you would still be in, you would still be in junior college right now to this day. You manifest to go beat, fucking beat, you manifest to play against Troy Paul Malu.

I manifest to play against Miami of Ohio, baby. Miami, Ohio, great school. My friend went there. And I visited him twice. And let me tell you, we had a good time. And my jersey is up on the wall and it got stolen. It was right next to Big Ben's jersey. I forgot the place we went to.

Oh, man. Miami, Ohio is cool. I never went there. It was supposed to be a fun school. Sean McVeigh went to that. Loved it, loved it. I played against Sean McVeigh when he went to Miami, Ohio. He's that young?

Yeah, he's that old. I'm that old. No, no, he's that young. He's both. Because he's a head coach. I know, but he was a head coach 10 years ago. I think he got in his damn near 20s. What position did he play?

He was a receiver slot. He had a catch against us. Yeah, just one, though. I don't really remember him. I'm trying to get you. But I'll tell you right now. I guarantee you remember me. That's what we're talking about.

All right. I love you, baby. I love you. Time. What kind of dude is Ed Reed? Oh, man. Ed Reed. I mean, definitely a wizard because you got to know the game of football,

especially on the defensive side of the ball, in order to bait your quarterback into throwing the ball so you can go make an interception. But his absolute dog, too, when he made that interception, brought it to the house, stripping his lineman in college, so he can go for an 80-yard touchdown. He got returning as well as the most.

electric returns and most yardage return in the NFL history for a defense player. Black kicks. When you're the superstar on defense and you're still playing in the kicking game, that's fucking dog. That's when you know you're a legend. That's a dog. That's when you know you're a football player as well.

Mental toughness, always motivated. You knew Ed Reed was motivated. Heart and soul of the you. Well, I mean, there's so many hearts. Oh, yeah, yeah, there was. So many hearts. But one of them. One of the heart and souls of the you.

One of the heart and souls. So dog? Dog. Dog. Stamp it. Dog. Stop it. Dog.

We'll start with former teammate of mine on Inside the NFL. Ray Lewis. Scary S.O.B. Let's see what AI has to say about him. All right. We got some dude synopsis here. Scary as dude. Number one is Ray Lewis.

Let's see what AI has to say. What's AI I got to say? Ray Lewis is widely regarded. Ray Lewis is widely regarded as one of the greatest middle line. linebackers in NFL history, known for his intense playing style and leadership on the field. And off the field, he overcame personal challenges and became a motivational figure. Often speaking about discipline and perseverance. Lewis had significant impact on the Baltimore Ravens, leading them to two Super Bowl victories

in earning the Super Bowl MVP in 2001. Wow. Wow. I was 12 years old in 2001. And, Jules, how old were you about? 15, 14, 15. Notably, he is the only player in NFL history with over 40 career sacks and 30 interceptions. Instinctive.

Additionally, he was a 12-time pro bowler and a two-time NFL defensive player of the year. Ray Lewis for you, ladies and gentlemen, brought to you by AI. I think AI is pretty right. I worked with Ray as soon as we, I retired on inside the NFL. And in those pre-production meetings, he would speak. And I felt like I wanted to run through a goddamn brick wall every time he would speak. He sounded like a pastor with the mix of craziness and a mix of a gladiator quote. Ray, don't think I don't know where your quotes come from.

We went to Rome together, and I figured out that all of Ray's motivational quotes come from the movie, the gladiator. It was crazy. I remember playing him. He knocked me out of game first off. What game was that? And what year was that? He knocked you out of the game. It was, remember when Deon Branch came back for the first game back?

So about, was it 2013? Your fourth year or my third year? This was like 2012? 11 or 12. Yeah. Oh, it was 2011. What did Randy Lee? Lance came back on the team on the team when we went to the Super Bowl.

Yes, yes. 2010, my rookie year. Randy Moss was traded after the fourth game of the season. And then didn't we trade for... We traded back for DM Branch, right, that year? So it was my rookie year. It was your rookie year. Yes, 2010, the same season that Randy Moss got traded.

Yeah. And he hit me on under in the red area. And I remember Helodinata, like picking me up and saying, hey, buddy, you're your sidelines that way. That was at Gillette Stadium, correct? At Gillette. Yes, and it was 2010. 2010.

Yes, it was. He lit me up. And then the year before, this is my second year in the league. year before in the playoffs he scored and I on a scramble in the red area Tom darted it to me I caught it and I got a touchdown

and Ray was right behind me and he needed me so hard in my left butt cheek that like I got a crazy hematoma and I looked like I had J-Lo booty on like my butt was just I had one big butt it was so fucking crazy if we would have we got smoked

that game but I wouldn't have been able to play the next week because I had like internal bleeding. It was fucking nuts. So that dude is scared the shit out of me. What do you think about? First off, AI hit it hit it on point, but they didn't, you know, talk about all his characteristics that he brings to the table as well. Yes, a great motivational speaker, great player, you know, all the accolades, two-time Super Bowl champion, whatever, 12-time Pro Bowler, but they didn't talk about the characteristics that makes him himself vicious out in the field. Vicious. Absolutely vicious. Intimidating.

100%. I would put my hand down and I was already scared of Ray Lewis when he was lined up in front of me. When you're scared of a player, you're kind of already beat as well. That's how intimidating he was just the nature of just the way he

carried himself, the energy that he brought to the table. You did not want to mess with Ray Lewis. No doubt, no ands, ifs, or butts about that. Now, he was not just scary, but he was also, like, one of the smartest football players you fucking played. Very intellectual.

Like, I remember we'd be in a three-by-one, like a Trips formation, and he'd be sitting there calling out, like, all right, watch this hook, watch this hook. Like, he'd be calling our plays, and he would, I remember talking to him when we worked together, and he would study all of our TV copies so he could hear Tom signals. He could hear all the line front signals. So anytime we would play the Ravens with Ray, we kind of knew that he knew everything. We had to change everything

because he was such a smart, hardworking guy that did anything it took to fucking go out and win a game. If that meant sit and watching five hours of all the TV copies to just to get one little signal from something, that's what Ray Lewis was doing. And he was just, he was fucking like,

we look at middle linebackers now. Middle linebackers are 225, 230 pounds. Ray Lewis was sideline to sideline 250. Mm-hmm. 250. doing war dances before the game, getting the whole city of Baltimore, some light. I mean, he was their first, first pick of that franchise. Like, he set the stage for what Baltimore has become, you know, like what he said in his

things, known for defense, tough team, you know, it's carried out throughout, you know, Harbaugh, Harbaugh inherited him, rose it to what it is now, but there are tough fucking team. And Ray Lewis was like the war daddy of the war dabbies. And he was the definition of a linebacker in the NFL in the decade of the 2000 era. No doubt about that. You big, strong, intimidating, fast, took no shit at all. No.

He was the defensive captain. He was the guy in the huddle that got everyone, you know, in the right spots where they needed to be. He was the one that was calling every single defensive player. He was the absolute definition of a Mike linebacker, of a middle linebacker, a Mike linebacker is just a name for the middle linebacker for all you people out there. So Mike linebacker, middle linebacker, same exact thing, MLB. But he was the definition. He was the standard of strength, of speed, of agility of a middle linebacker.

Instinctiveness. And how instinctiveness, intellectual, just how smart he was, the ability to know what plays were being called, and how to fill a gap as well. That mother effort, that mother effort knew how to fill a gap and blow a gap up. better than any linebacker in the history of the game. And he set the example to all young guys, all players, all defensive players in high school and college on how to play the linebacker position in the game of football.

There's no doubt about that. And that was mean, aggressive. What else is there, Julian? Fucking instinctive. Yes. Just all of it. And once again, I got to experience. I got to be on a team, you know, with Ray.

and the way he motivated guys, like his stories and like how he would, you have to, like, he told me once we're doing inside the NFL, he goes, you got to win the crowd to win your freedom. I'm like, Ray, we're talking about football. We're not in a goddamn, we're not at the Coliseum right now. Okay, like, I want to run through the wall, but we're not hitting nobody. Just who he was, Jules. Yes, I, it's great.

He would say something, and I couldn't understand anything. but I got the point. Like, he would say something. I'm like, fuck yeah. I don't, let's, let's have the best fucking show.

Let's have the show, Ray! Like, that's how Ray was. You know, and we went and did this convention over in Croatia together. And so I was like, Ray, let's,

you want to go to Rome after with me? And so me and Ray went to Rome. And to watch him go, we went to the Coliseum for a day. And it was like watching a kid walk into a candy shop when he saw that Coliseum. Like, you could tell that it was like ingrained in him. He was like, this is where the men that I am used to perform in the day of age of them. He said something like that to me.

You want to know something, what? In one of his past lies, I bet you he was a gladiator. Oh, 100%. Fighting in the Coliseum. 100%. Yes. I saw he he literally had a single tear when he walked and he saw just how grand and old and how he was you could see him using his imagination for all the freaking fans and stuff

and guys ripping each other's goddamn heads off and it like he loved it wait a second do you think he was one of the gladiators back in the day or was he one of those lions No, he was in the Coliseum. He, he was, he was, he was he both. He, he was Lionheart. Lionheart, but a gladiator. Yeah, Lionheart.

Lionheart like Van Dam. Can't disagree with that. You ever been covered by him? I've been covered by him a few times. I mean, obviously his game was stopping the run, but he was very smart in the zone coverage as well. A hell of picks. Yes, a lot of picks.

I mean, what, he has, what, 30 interceptions and over 50 sacks? What was that? Yeah. Only person ever do it. The only one to ever do it. And, you know, he's just very athletic for his size, too, man. His arms are just massive. It just looks like a guy out of like a magazine cover, you know,

just straight off a magazine, front page cover right off the stands and just put on the football field. Manikin, a manikin of a gladiator. He was the definition of what a guy in Madden looks like, you know, when you're playing the game Madden, you know, he just got taken right out of the video game and put right on the field. But I got to clear up a little bit with Ray Lewis. I mean, the guy, you know, back end of his career when we were facing him, so we didn't really get the true Ray Lewis, just like all of us in the NFL.

Oh, he lit me up. Yeah, yeah, he definitely lit you up still. But when you're in your prime prime, you're moving people, no matter what the situation is. You're moving people. You're blowing up the holes, all that. So we didn't, we didn't, I never got like leveled by Ray Lewis. I definitely felt his power. But here's a situation.

I was running, this thing goes viral all over Instagram all the time, where it's a clip of me running over Ray Lewis. But let me get this clear out there. I didn't really, like, technically run over Ray Lewis. I mean, I did in the clip, and people just take it out of context because, you know, on the film directly, like, with, you know, you just take that three seconds of a clip, and I am running over Ray Lewis. But here's the deal.

Here's the situation. It was a passing play, and I was on a route. He was dropping back in the coverage, and I was, debating I had a I had an in-cut 12-yard in-cut and I was debating because he was dropping back you know doing his thing trying to making it hard on myself because you know he's very smart of a player knows how to drop back and get you confused of where he's going so then it kind of throws you off your route so I'm like do I go outside of him because he's dropping out of my out of my zone out of the area where I got to run the 12-yard in-cut or is he going inside and I should go inside or should I go outside of him you know I'm trying to say yeah yeah So I'm debating, and I'm kind of stiffed this game. You know, I'm just running straight and I'm debating. Should I go out? Should I go out?

Should I go in? And I'm running full speed at him, debating, and then boom, I just clashed right into him. So he wasn't really paying attention to me, and he was looking back at the quarterback. But when I clashed right into him on the passing route, he went flying backwards, and I ran him over. And then I, like, jumped up real quick and acted like I was wide open. So, like, I didn't really run him over. Did you get a catch? No, I didn't get a catch.

either. So it was great coverage by him, actually, like, to the T, if you ask me. But it's a clip where I'm like, no, it's like just taking out of context. I will tell you when I ran someone over. That's how scary of a guy he is, is where Rob over here ran his ass over. Okay, I don't want to hear it, right? He got ran over. No, I didn't run him more. He was dropping back in coverage and I just ran my route through him. He's trying to justify running him over and did not make Ray mad at him. I don't want Ray mad at me. I can tell you that right now. But I was just running my route and it went threw him and he was, you know, he was on his, on his heels backing up, backpedaling and using his space.

Yeah, he did go fly, yeah, he did go flying, but it was not like a run player or anything. If that was a run play and I blocked him like that, well, then that's off to me. I would still go running. I would still run to the other sideline because I'd still be scared of Ray Lewis. But I didn't technically run him over. It was just a little mishap. And Jules, I got a question. When he did that, you know, the war dance running out of the tunnel, the Baltimore fans going

crazy. Did you ever watch one of those war dances? Oh, every time. Or were you like looking the other way? Like coach, no, no, Belichick, I'm not, I'm not watching. Why are you saying that? Yeah. Because that's what Bill used to say. Yeah. Don't be paying attention to what they're doing. Just worry about what you're doing. But Ray Lewis is war dance. You had a peat. Dude, that's, that's how. You had a peek. Dude, you had to. Coach Belichick on a Ravens weekend, even though he'd always be like, look, we're going to be going to be going to Ray doing his goddamn fucking war dance. Like, just get your heads right.

Get your heads right for the game. Don't, we're all, you know, he's going to be doing that war dance. You know, he's referenced the war dance. Wait, his war dance is called the squirrel dance. Ain't no squirrel doing that. Yeah, because, Jules, you're a squirrel. You ain't doing those type of dances. I never heard anyone even call it.

No, that's a war dance. It was started by his friends in his hometown. They named it the squirrel dance because it, It had the whole town jumping. I get it now. I know, but the squirrel dance, you're the squirrel. Yeah, and I don't see a squirrel looking that scary. No, squirrels are furry and...

And cute. Kind and snuggly. No. Ray looks like he wants to bite your face off and do a war dance on your face after it's been bit off. What about his visor? Fucking scary. This is aura overall.

Ray Lewis's or I mean, the visor, what the, you know, the little bands on his arms, all that. just a scary player overall scary in that purple and black that's just a mean looking team it is all right all right time let's determine what kind of duty is all right ray lewis what kind of dude is ray lewis is he a freak of course he's a freak i mean he definitely has freak of nature in him i mean he's gigantic he's a definition he's i mean of a middle linebacker he's a whiz as well he was so innovative for the sideline to sideline quarterback quarterback of the defense type linebacker.

You know, I could be recency bias, but this is what we grew up on. He's a dude's dude as well. I mean, positive attitude, the motivational speaking, getting everyone going,

bringing everyone together. I mean, he's special, man. That's special just to have that, you know, in life is to just be able to motivate people and bring people together. And on top of it,

just being that phenomenal of a football player, man, that's what really made him special. He had so many great characteristics that he brought to a team, not just being a good player. I think he's a dog.

He's relentless. He's motivated. He's physically and mentally tough. Dude, tore his tricep came back in a fucking, like, four weeks for the game. Like, he doesn't care if he has something hanging on by a thread. If it's a playoff game or if it's a, uh, AFC North divisional game, or if it's a game against us, you knew Ray Lewis was going to be out there doing his goddamn war dance before the game, getting the whole fucking crowd going crazy.

you know, that's going to be what Ray does and he's a fucking dog. He's a dog. He is a dog. And any time you're a dog, you get the job done. And he got the job done every single time he hit the field. Let's go to our next guy. I ain't ever messing with Ray.

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