Games with Names - Dudes on Fantasy Football

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

It's fantasy football playoff season and we're talking about some of the greatest fantasy performers of all time. Our first dude is a versatile back from a football family. The next fantasy legend was so good he only had to go by his initials. Our third guy was a legend with not one, but two teams. We wrap it up by putting together the greatest fantasy team of all time. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Angelica Ross and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Fam podcast on the iHeart Radio app of a podcast or whatever. You get your podcast girl. Oh, I know that's right. If I had some bad games, man, oh, if you looked at your Twitter mentions, oh, people were coming at you, man. Fans were coming at you.

And then that's when you like you go into defense mode and you're like, you know, I'm just a team player. I don't care that, you know, I didn't have any catches. We won the game like you think I really care about my catches when when we won the game, that's what it's all about. But then if you have a great fantasy day, you know, you're like, yeah, I did it for my fans. I did it for you guys.

I did it for your fantasy roster. So you guys always play the game as well. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dude. It's fantasy playoff football time, ladies and gentlemen.

So we're talking about some fantasy legends. Who are some of the best fantasy players of all time. First, a versatile back from an NFL family. This guy like he was born into this. A dude that only went by his initials. That's like Gronk going by Gronk instead of Koushka. That means you have to be a legend.

You have to be a legend to have a nickname. Thank you. We get into another dude that rewrote the record books with not just one team, but two teams. He was a pivotal part of their past game. He's great in the run game. And he didn't get hurt. He was healthy his whole career.

And we wrap it up by drafting our all time fantasy team. All time? All time, baby. All time. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's play ball. Dudes on dudes, a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome to dudes on dudes.

And we have a very special episode today. Yes, we do. Yeah, we're going to go over because it's getting to that time of year. Fantasy playoffs. And this is reality that we have going on today, Jules. So I know everyone out there has this fantasy mind of what goes on in the fantasy world of football, but this is reality. And we're going to be talking about the biggest and baddest fantasy players

that have ever played the game of football. It's fantasy themed. We will go over like like horses, guys that if they played in this generation, guys that do play in this generation, guys that played in older generations that would just fucking light up the scoreboard. You know, it's been kind of fun because, you know, since we retired. Rob, we've been in a fantasy team together. And it's actually my first fantasy league I've ever joined in my life. Jules. Yeah, it's that we have the the Nuthouse Fantasy League.

And let's go. I did. And before someone corrects me, I was on air. I did a fantasy draft. I just did not follow up and played in the actual league. It was just a draft to give an example to all the fans out there on how to draft and who to draft and what guys are out there. So it's kind of explained the game. But this is truly the first league that I participated in

in my whole entire life, man. Yeah. So this is really cool. All right. So Rob Rob. So we actually play each other this. Oh, we do. All right. We play each other going down, boy. You're going down. Guess what my record is right now? What?

One in 12, motherfucker. I guess what it's going to be after this week. What? Two and 12. No, motherfucker. So Rob's team. I like your team name, Rob. I want to start saying mother trucker and a motherfucker. So mother trucker.

Rob's right. You're going down, mother trucker. Rob, did you even name your team? Talking Rob, did you name the team? My opponent. Are you talking? All right. I'm just saying you get in my head. Rob's rad. Yeah. Yeah. Rob's rad team is one in 12, one in 12. No, I'm not doing any better.

I actually didn't name my team. I'll give you my whole entire strategy, how I named the team, how I pick my team as well. Once you ask that question, what was your strategy of making this team? All right. Well, you asked. Well, my strategy was totally miss out on the Zoom call while everyone was picking. So I was automatically getting my team drafted by the computer system that Yahoo presented draft.

So it was auto draft. And I was just getting the top player available on the board every single time. I was up to draft. And that's how you do it. You're guaranteed the top player that's available when you auto draft. So I don't see why people would draft. Well, how's that done this season? I'm killing it. Killing it. You bet it, you know, against me every week, you would win.

I'm one in 12, one in 12. You see Rob's rad team is radically shitty. I've been struggling to honestly. I my fantasy team name is Ernest does football. I used to like those Ernest movies. Ernest scared straight. Ernest does Halloween. The only thing I know that's close to Ernest is Ernie Adams. Well, my old one used to be Ernie Adams family.

And I can tell you this, if you got any earn to the name, because Ernie Adams is the smartest, bestest genius of all times in the football world. So that means if you got earnest in your fantasy name, you should be on the feed. I will. That's disrespectful to the Ernie Adams. And I've kind of tried on this, but my guys just haven't been working. I mean, I had Jordan Love, Matt Kafe.

I did a trade for MedCop. I had no running back at the beginning of the season, so I had to I had to make this crazy trade to get Josh Jacobs did have. Say Kwan was holding my team together. But then, you know, I've been scrapping at receiver with Jalen Reed. He's been doing well. Hockinson, you know, I picked him up after, you know, he's been hurt and he's been gradually getting better. But my team, I'll have a guy that performs and then one week guy was.

And it's tough. You know, I'm trying to put my players in the best position to win. But, you know, Rob, it's been tough. But I'm going to take your team down this week because my whole team is getting healthy and I can't even take. I can't take the credit. I got to take the credit of these guys right now. Well, I'm not each and every all first off.

You better take me down because I have someone starting this week and they don't even have a game there on bye week. Well, oh, you know, just that Jamal Williams. Yeah, Jamal Williams. So that's actually what happened. That's I've actually have. You got to go make a change. I have Thursday.

I haven't looked at my team and I'll make a fucking change. This is why I'm one in 12. First off, my projecting ranking, my projecting score this week is 66 points. And usually the average is about 100 to 120. And that's just how many guys I've been starting that actually weren't even playing that week. So that's terrible. First off. And I kind of haven't looked at my fantasy team in about six to seven weeks. You got to put kind of forgot about it.

But this is why I kind of just got pissed at fantasies that fillies D. Got to put it in. Shut up, Jules. I'm talking OK about my fantasy team. It's not about your fantasy team. I'm talking about your fan. Oh, one in 12. I need the press I can get with my fantasy team because no one's been having any talk about him because I've been so terrible. But I dropped Joe Mixon this year because he was on a biweek. No, he wasn't about he got hurt for a little bit. And then all my other running backs were on a biweek. So I had to drop someone. So I dropped Joe Mixon up quick. So I drop him. I get another I get another pretty decent running back. Then I forget I dropped Joe Mixon and then Joe Mixon is going off two or three weeks later.

He has like what? Like two touchdowns versus the Patriots when I was watching that game. I'm like, oh, yeah, I know. I got Joe Mixon on my fantasy team. Let me go check how I'm doing because I kind of forgot. And then I go and look and Joe Mixon is on the other team that I'm playing. I'm like, what the F? How is he on that team? I forgot I dropped him. And then. Kyler beat me because Joe Mixon went off that game for the first of Patriots, and he beat me by one point because of Joe Mixon. Oh, my God.

And then since then, I haven't looked at my team now. Well, it was a week before I lost by one point. See, I'm not a fantasy guy. I'm the reality guy, man. I get it done in real life. That's a bad beat. It is. You know, I had a bad beat with going against Sam.

First off, I dropped Mike Evans. I thought his hamstring was a lot worse than what it is and I fully fucked that up. And once again, Kyler, who's a little. You fucked it up just like how I fucked up the job. What do they call it? He's a waiver wire guy. He just sits there and is do we even work? Suspended. I can't believe this guy work.

He I leave him for two weeks. He's not joining the league next year. I know we're going to get him out. I'm going to cash him out. So I had a bad beat. I was playing. I was playing Sam and my team was dominating. Saquon had his big day and and there's I had Sam.

I had what's his name? Hubert on Hubert on the Panthers. Choo Choo Hubbard. I had Chub Choo Hubbard and I I had like 16 points to spare. And Lamar and Sam had Lamar Jackson only left or something. And like I win with 16 points to spare in Lamar and Sam had Lamar Jackson only left or something. And like I win with 16 points and then Lamar had that late run thing. The late run touchdown and when garbage time, he ends up getting hella points for that. And then Chuba Hubert fumbles.

So he gets one point more than me because I got the three point deduction from it. I'm like, what the fuck is such a bad beat? Bad. I can't even make it in a playoffs, I don't think. It's OK. Now, at least you'll have a win this week. Yeah, I'm hoping, you know, I'm hoping. I got a question. How often do fans bring up fantasy football to you, Jules, when you were playing, dude, because we were in the era when like fantasy

football started getting like huge, like huge, huge. I'm talking like it was taking football to a whole nother level. The ladies were starting to get involved into football as well. 100% fantasy football, kids, parents, everyone. Football was just becoming the nature of everyone's life because of fantasy football. And it started blowing up right when we started blowing up in the league as well.

So how often that people bring it up to you? Any time I wasn't in a in Massachusetts and I went to a different city. So you go to like Miami or you go somewhere. Everyone always say, hey, you a PPR. Thanks, man. Thanks. You help me out, man, this year. So like you I would hear it all the time, like, but it always be a PPR thing because I was a high catch guy. So that's what I found out about that.

So I would hear what can you explain what PPR means? Points per game, points per reception. Don't even know. Um, you know, still getting used to this fantasy thing. What about you, Rob? They you had to hear it all the time all the time. Jules, especially after my second year in the league when I was just winning fantasy rosters left and right, baby.

And people were making big money off of me. And my Venmo account was freaking filled up because people like I want my fantasy. I think you deserve $10. Here you go. And I really give out your Venmo account. No, just people would like think it's me, which it was me. And they would just send it over to me as well. And you're no, I don't know. I would just be stacking up a little bit.

But I'm sure how many fake Rob Gronkowski Vamo accounts out there were getting donations to it as well. So whoever was running the fake ones, God bless you. You're welcome. And at that time in my life, what was there? It was something, man. But it was around in 2012. Like that's when it just started as well.

So I probably got like an extra thousand dollars in my account just from random people sending me ten dollars. That is fucking insane. You want me my fantasy league, even though it's a there's ten guys or eight guys on the roster and it takes a whole team to win your fantasy. But hey, I appreciate it. But I was dominating. But also, if I had some bad games, man, if you looked at your Twitter mentions,

oh, people were coming at you, man. Fans were coming at you. And then that's when you like you go into defense mode and you're like, you know, I'm just a team player. I don't care that, you know, I didn't have any catches. We won the game like you think I really care about my catches when when we won the game. That's what it's all about. But then if you have a great fantasy day, you know, you're like, yeah, I did it for my fans. I did it for you guys. I did it for your fantasy roster.

So you guys always play the game as well. Which which one you're going to take, dude. Rob, you must have had like crazy. What was Rob's regular seat? What's his best fantasy year? Well, let's look at it. I mean, I know I'm back in my mind, bro. I mean, it was it had to be the 2011 season. It was the 2011 season when I broke all the tight end records.

I was breaking record. 90 receptions. I led the league in touchdown receptions that year as well. I led the league in fantasy points. So I was on fire, baby. That was a breakout year for me in real life and fantasy life, baby. I had let me think. Oh, I think I had 330.9 points that year. That's a lot. Is that right?

That's a massive amount of points. Three, 30, 990 receptions, 1300 yards, 1327, 17 touch. But actually it was 18 touchdowns because one of my touchdowns, I was lined up in the backfield because I can do it all, you know, on the football field. I accidentally bubbled too much I was behind Brady so Brady threw it I remember that I caught it and I ran it in actually for the touchdown and 13 touchdowns was held for the most ever touchdowns by tight end by Vernon Davis I had 13 at the moment that was my 14th touchdown the. The whole crowd was going crazy. I got a standing ovation. My second year in the league. I'm just 22 years old. Matt lights, busting my ball, sit down, young buck.

You know, you're not that great, you know, which I love Matt light, which was great. And then, uh, later that game, I got the whole standing ovation for beating the most touchdowns ever by tight end in the history. And then later that game, I mean, later that day, it got ruled that it was a run rush. So the record went back down. So I was only tied with Vernon Davis at 13 tight ends. So I actually had one rushing touchdown that year as well. So I had 18 total touchdowns.

Get that right, man. It's fantasy football. Rushing and receiving touchdowns count. So that's three hundred and thirty six. If it's rushing. No, I'm sure the Russian touchdown included. It was was included with the point total, I would say. It was about three yards. It was versus Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, I remember three touchdown game.

That game actually had three birdie and one one Russian touchdown. So I'm one for one in my career in Russia's jewels. I know you've had plenty of rushes, plenty of reverses. I was the first guy behind the backfield. And how many touchdowns you have rushing in your career? I would say my best fantasy. I don't know my rushing touchdown. You don't?

No. I thought you would know your stats better, your jewels. I don't know. I don't know my stats. You're the Nuthouse. I really don't know my stats. What was your best fantasy year? Well, I have it right in front of me.

So it says 2019, 150 fifty point four total PPR points. Hundred receptions, 1117 yards and six touchdowns. All right. Is that a lot of points? So now. So you had ten more receptions than me and only half the amount of points. Why is that, Jules? Because you why is that you score touchdowns? I convert third downs. And that's why we're a team.

And that's why we're winners, because we knew our role and we all did our role and we all shut up and we didn't complain. Oh, I complain sometimes. I know it sounded good. It sounded good. OK. And I complain when I didn't throw me the ball in the red zone and went to someone else. It's like, Tom, this is where I shine, brother, in the red zone. Like, yeah, don't throw it to me in the open field.

I'm never going to complain that I would never complained ever to Tom if we were with like within like the 20s. But when we got to the red zone and I was open and I felt like he could throw me the ball, Tom, what I would get back to. I was open. I was open, Tom. And he back, oh, oh, shit. Like, I never seen Gronk mad while when you get to the red zone, you don't throw it to me. I'm going to get mad, brother.

But the Hulk, that's that's when Bruce Banner, he when he gets in, when he gets up into that, that that 20 and in bugger Rob turns into Hulk. You fucking true. Hey, we got to start a points per first down league. Hold on. We feel I got one more story real quick, too, about fantasy football because it was becoming big. So we're at Mohican Sun.

I'm not sure if you're on the trip or not. It was it was about to be before the playoffs was actually. Yeah, I think it was my second year. And some some chick comes up to me. She's like, oh, my God. Like, you know, like it was just, you know, we were young, so it was the coolest thing. She's like, oh my God, you're on my fantasy team.

And I looked at her in front of everyone and I go, you want me to make your fantasy a reality? Yeah, and I said it, you know, in my ways, at 22 years old, I was tipsy and she's like, yeah, I do. And I had the whole room laughing, you know, and then from there, nothing actually happened. I just just sounded really good to tell that story. And then I didn't, you know, me, I I just started dancing too hard

that I danced myself home and nothing went on from there. But it worked. Was it that way? That's it. What's that pickup line worked. And that's all I cared about. That's when I knew I scored. I was I already hit a home run. The pickup line worked.

Everyone laughed about it. So I was good. I didn't need to do anything from there. Oh, my God. Yeah. Classic. Well, let's jump in. Let's jump into our first our first fantasy dude. Guy that kills it in fantasy. He sure does. Should we start with the AI reading?

Yeah, the synopsis report. Synopsis is on this guy. Here we go. All right, this dude stands at five foot, 11 inches and weighing 210 pounds. Jules, what are you? Five, 10, 198. So that just puts in the perspective this guy is beefy.

He's thick. He's thick. He's a versatile running back for the San Francisco 49ers. But he was drafted by the Carolina Panthers with the eighth overall pick in 2017. Known for his dual threat capabilities, he excels as both a runner and receiver, becoming one of three players to record a thousand rushing and a thousand receiving yards in the same NFL season. Jules, can you name the other two players that did that?

I'm just questioning right now. A thousand yard receiving and a thousand yards rushing. Go only three players in history. This guy's one of them. Name the other two. Marshall Falk. Yes. And then who is the other one?

Come on, you know who he is. Roger Craig. Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner, baby. God, let's go. All right. 1000,000 club. He was named the two thousand twenty three NFL offensive player of the year and has been a key figure in the 49ers offense. He's the only figure in that offense.

Well, I mean, actually, he's really not in the offense right now. Right now, he's not. I mean, it kind of sucks. So it's great when he's in, you know, in the lineup. Yeah, he's he's not right now. So it's kind of crappy for all the San Francisco 49er fans. Yeah, it's bad. He's originally from Castle Rock, Colorado, Colorado.

Hey, that's what makes him so strong. He's a rock. He's a rock. Yeah. And he's probably high altitude Yeah, I'll do it. Actually the high altitude everyone that I know that training the high altitude They're absolute animals and never get tired in blood. I'm jealous thin oxygen up there. I'm gonna go train Times were hard. Yeah, I never went to the Montana trips. All right back to the synopsis He played college football at Stanford where he won. Actually, no, where he was a Heisman Trophy finalist. Heisman Trophy. Guess who beat him that year?

Baker Mayfield. Nope. Derek Henry. Derek Henry. Yes. He is a perennial first overall draft pick in fantasy football, amassing 471.2 points in a single fantasy PPR season, second most of all time. Julian, who are we talking about? Christian McCaffrey. Mm hmm. Absolute freak show on the field can do it all.

Thousand yard reception season, thousand yard rushing season. Only been two other times. One of the other guys possibly we should be talking about if he had a thousand yard receiving yards as well and thousand Russians, but we'll get to it. We'll see who else we have later on. But this guy right here, absolute savage when the ball is in his hands.

What I really love about him is that he kind of creates his own holes because he's so good at cutting. That's what makes him stand out from any other player, any other running back that's in the game right now or was in the game and that are legends because Christian McCaffrey's on his way to be a legend if he can just stay healthy and keep producing the way that he's producing.

But he just can cut so quick and he's so elusive with the cut and makes it look so harmless and so easy that kind of opens up holes for him. And I actually talked about it on Fox and that's what I said about him. I was like, hey, look at him go when he came back this year for a couple of the games.

When he cuts, he opens up and draws a lane and he goes right through the hole because of what he's doing. And then Howie Long after was like, really, he's really doing that, actually. And we looked at some film and he would be going this way in the way they cut over to the left. There was all of a sudden a lane

because of the way that he cut and the way that the defenders were moving. And just how freaking gravity works when someone's going or what's it called when you're in motion going that way and inertia inertia. Yeah, inertia inertia inertia, inertia. And then it would just cause him to have his own hole. And he would just burst right through that hole then because he just has so much explosiveness. And I believe that's what makes him such a great running back is that

he can create his own lane. I mean, that explosiveness comes from his grandpa. Grandpa was like a Olympic sprinter. His mom's played at Stanford soccer player. Dad's Ed McCaffrey. I mean, I used to. How many years did Ed McCaffrey play in the NFL? I think he played 12 years in the league.

Won three Super Bowls, one with the Niners, two with the Broncos. I used to love Ed McCaffrey. He used to cut out his shoes. You know, he was like a grinder receiver. And this guy, like he was born into this. You know, he's got the jean makeup, which is crazy because his other brothers

that played in the league, I think he has one right now at the commanders. Wide receiver. Yeah, yeah. He had another one as well that's coaching now. They, I think they're like taller, like Ed, and Christian's like just a shit brick house, like a ball of muscle, just five foot. Do you see him? He's like offseason

training and stuff. He does all like the track workouts. And you see his explosive, his explosiveness and his movement. And like he works all that shit. And he just looks like a sprinter. He doesn't play like a sprinter. He plays. He's an elite football player because he has like you were saying. He's got great vision. You know, he can recognize over pursuit, put his foot in the ground, cut back. And then he has the explosiveness to cut through the traffic. He's also great out of the backfield.

We always talk about how good he is as a receiver. I mean, and he's pretty much the focal point to the San Francisco 49ers. They go off of him because of his versatility, because of his effectiveness in the run game. Like he's really great at that, but you can also line them up anywhere. So you can play the personal personnel game against defense and like he's he's what makes him go. It's been it's been tragedy, you know, tragic to see his year this year with this with the with his injuries and the Achilles and and all that. And it's hurt the San Francisco 49ers.

Tremendously. And then also talking about his family and just how legendary of athletes this whole entire family is. His mom also played at the University of Stanford and played soccer there. And that's probably what led him to go to the University of Stanford as well. I mean, our guy guy. Yeah, I was just going to say that guy just doesn't have athletic ability. Obviously, he's smart as well. I mean, I think Stanford's the Harvard of the West Coast.

Isn't that correct? Yeah, that's what I've heard from others. I mean, I'm an East Coast or so. I only know about Harvard. I grew up right there. And but I only learned about Stanford once I got into the Pac 10 when I went to the University of Arizona. But Stanford was a school I would never be going to. Well, same with Harvard. I think that's bullshit.

I mean, I think you could. I could if I really tried, but I wasn't really. I didn't really have school smarts. There's difference between school smarts and street smarts tools. Yeah, I didn't really care to know that I knew the whole entire dictionary or history book like it wasn't just my forte, but you just because you didn't care about it. That's right. Good point. I because if you cared about it in the Stanford practice, I appreciate that.

You studied pretty hard. You man. Well, come into this. The Rob will come with his little note pad and she look at his voice app. He's been taking notes for the guys that were doing like you when you care about something you work hard. He's had some crazy, crazy, crazy games. He was like the first player to go run for a touchdown throw for a touchdown and catch a touchdown since LT did it,

which is crazy. He's just Mr. Versatile. I mean, he had the third most scrimmage yards in a single season in NFL history. I mean, the fantasy points this guy was throwing up, he was winning fantasy games for individuals, you know, just by himself. A 4 70, you know, in comparison to you. You had a four. Do you have a 330? I mean, it's the second best season of all time that he had, you know, when he went, you know, for all those yards.

What was it last year in San Francisco that year? It was the second best fantasy season in all of football after LT after his year in 2006. So in 19, I mean, this guy is like you said, he has great vision. He's super strong. So it's hard to take him down just one on one. I mean, a defensive tackle can take him down one on one. But when a linebacker or safety comes at him, he can make a miss very easily. And also they just bounce right off of him, too, if he has his balance on.

If he's not, you know, coming off of, you know, one footstep or something or getting hit. So it's very hard to tackle him. Great receiving back as well. I mean, like I said, he was strong. Andstep or some are getting hit. So it's very hard to tackle him. Great receiving back as well. I mean, like I said, he was strong and no one can take him down. No one a defensive tackle could, but he would probably make a defect defensive tackle miss if they were coming after him. Solid after the contact, obviously, that's what makes him strong. You know, the strong player that makes makes that elite, you know,

and he's a grinder. No doubt about that. Loves to work out. Loves to have that. Yeah. The office is, and he's a grinder. No doubt about that. Loves to work out. Loves to have that. Yeah. The office is a workouts he's been doing. It looks like a fucking great God. And he's just he makes sudden movements as well. That sudden step. Very decisive.

That's what makes you a great running back. That's what makes you great going through the holes. And that's just what makes you a great football player is just being sudden and decisive. And that's what he is, Rob. Yeah. So what if Brian Dayball was like your babysitter? Brian Dayball. Yeah, he was my babysitter. He was my coach for three years. He babysat me every frickin meeting and I'm just saying,

OK, was your babysitter when you were like 11 or 12? How much smarter of a football player you think you'd be? Did I be a genius? Because Brian Dable was a genius as well as engraving football into your body and love talking football. I would have been the smartest player probably in history if I had Brian Dable as as my babysitter growing up. What if Kyle Shanahan was your babysitter? You'd probably be Christian McCaffrey.

Exactly. So smart. Well, that is why. So Brian Dable babysitting me when I was growing up is like that's what I'm Kyle Shanahan was. Yeah. Frickin CMC's babysitter growing up as a kid. Well, because, you know, Ed McCaffrey played for the Broncos, won two Super Bowls at them. Mike Shanahan coach, son, Kyle Shanahan ballboy, probably hanging around with all the athletes and stuff.

That's crazy. That is crazy. So he's got football in his blood. I mean, he's got specimen in his blood. He's got football in his blood. I mean, he he's had the hype his whole life. And he's always he's always surpassed the hype. Also, you know, like it's not just him. He's he had he has his brother who plays for the commanders. What's his name? He's got Luke.

He's got Luke McCaffrey that plays with the commanders. I mean, how cool is it to have a brother in the National Football League? But, you know, you were the Christian one, Christian type brother, because, you know, and then, you know, the because I was the baller. Well, there's there's super stars. And then there's NFL players. You know, and how do was the baller. Well, there's there's super stars. And then there's NFL players. You know, how do you think your younger brother feels?

Actually, I love my younger brother. He's great. But like, do they always like but what do they think about? Like, you're the Gronk. You're literally there's literally like little. My daughter knows you as the Gronk. And like you're the youngest brother. Like, how how does that? Well, first off, you're the superstar brother. How like you're the youngest brother. Like how how does that? Well, first off, you're the superstar brother.

How do you treat the younger? Well, first off, it wasn't even about that. It was just super cool to even have a brother in the league. And I actually had three brothers in the league. Dan and Chris are my older brothers. And I played with Dan in New England for like a couple games during that second year that I that I had the fantasy year as well. My best fantasy football season ever and actually actually best fantasy football season ever by a tight end as well.

So my brother Dan played with us for a little bit. And then Chris actually played fullback. He played for the Broncos, the Chargers and also the the Cowboys and Colts. You know, he played three and a half years. No, he was not a practice squad. So that's the only one I didn't play with. And Glenn, who's younger than me, four years younger than me, he was on the practice squad for us for one year.

He started on the Bills, actually. He got cut at the beginning of the year. I think after the first or second game that we picked him up on the practice squad and he was he was a kind of an all purpose H back. You know, he could play fullback. He could go out in the slot, you know, position. And he was a great, you kind of an all purpose H back. You know, he could play fullback. He could go out in the slot, you know, position. And he was a great, you know, practice squad player for us and was actually ready at any time to get called up.

But he was on the practice squad that year that we beat the Atlanta Falcons in the Super Bowl. So he my younger youngest brother has a ring. But do let me tell you, it was the coolest experience having my brothers on the team and not just even having them on the team Just to have them in the NFL man It just makes you that much bigger of a fan of the NFL because you're just paying so much attention And detail to what your brother's doing because you want him to be successful you want him to have success

And you what you're gonna tune into him because it just makes it that much more special To know that you know that person and you just don't know him. It's your frickin brother. It's your family member. So super cool, man. It's the best. It's the best. Remember, do you remember like when you guys were kids dreaming about being in the NFL? And then do you remember a specific time? I wonder if they think about that as well.

You know what I mean? Because there's a time when you guys are all playing football in the backyard where there's no rules. You're just tackling each other. But you're like, do you guys have that? 100% do. We always dreamed about making it to the NFL. And actually, when you're in the backyard,

you were never like your own person. You're never yourself. You're always that guy that you looked up to. So I loved Eric Moldz, bro. So like Eric Moldz wide receiver, Buffalo Bill. So like Eric Moles wide receiver Buffalo Bill. So like every time I split out wide, like in the back, I'd be like Eric Moles coming at you, baby. I'm about to score. And then I catch a big Eric Moles, baby.

I'm Eric Moles. Here I come for you. You know, you're never yourself, you know, when growing up as a kid. You're always your hero, which was always cool. I mean, you guys are kind of the same. You had an Olympic. You had an Olympic you had an Olympic grandfather that was like a bike set by. He was a bike by bicyclist.

Yeah, that's what it was. He's right here. Yeah. Oh, where? So he actually is speaking about it because the Olympics were a hundred years ago in Paris when he actually participated in that cycling, you know, year in the Olympics. And that was 100 years ago because the Olympics were in Paris again this year, 2024. So it became a big story that my great grandfather was in the Olympics in 1924 as a cyclist. He became, he became, he ended up in 45th place actually.

And now I found out why. Because the French cheated. They made him change his bike. They said his bike wasn't legal in 1924. The bike he's been training on, the bike he's been riding with. They made him switch out his bike and the French gave him a bike to ride on in 1924 that he's never ridden on before in his life. Or else he would have gotten frickin first place.

They knew this world could not handle the Gronkowski name becoming that big time in 1924. So therefore, the French. He thorned him, but all and gave him a bike that wasn't working. I swear tires were flat in French. The tires were flat. But yeah, yeah, we go way back, just like the McCaffrey family.

Wow. Wow. So what is McCaffrey? Jules, come on now. What? Come on. We've let's categorize him. Being around the Broncos organization as a kid. Must you got the picture with Shannon Sharp, Uncle Shannon? I mean, he had that to be so cool. I mean, it was just in CMC's DNA. Just growing up, just the culture that was around him as well.

His family, his dad was in the NFL that, you know, Christian sitting on Shannon Sharpe's lap. I mean, he just saw it growing up. He saw what it took. And that's when Christian McCaffrey kind of knew he was going to make it to the NFL because he was already so much better than, you know, everyone as well. And at seven years old, what did he do again? That just kind of just blew up now. That that's always talked about seven years, seven years old. And what do you do? He fricking scored a touchdown in the mascot game

and the mascot game against a little kid as a little kid. He already knew he was going pro. He's around all the pro players already. Yeah, he's dominating on the field as just a pop warner. He scored a touchdown on these guys. And he pulled out a look at little. Come on. What do you do? Come on, Jules. You know what?

He pulled the Sharpie out and signed it. He did the T.O. He did the T.O. before T.O. did the T.O. No, is this is probably the is probably T.O. did it. And then he did it. No, he did it.O. No, is this is private is probably T.O. did it and then he did it. No, he did it. It was what year is this? And what year three T.O. did it like way after 2000? No way. Really?

T.O. did it in like 90. I'll do it. Oh, so he did. He did the T.O. after T.O. But all right. I mean, to do that as a seven year old kid, he still runs the same. You know what that makes you makes you a beast. Does anyone have that ball? So does anyone runs the same. You know what that makes you? Makes you a beast. Does anyone have that ball? So does anyone have the same ball?

I was a quick signature, though. And then he just toss it into the stands. Wow. He was a he's bred to do it. He was bred to do it. All right. All right. So what kind of dude is Christian McCaffrey? I mean, after watching that clip as a seven year old kid, I kind of already know what he is, man. There's no doubt about it in my mind.

His blood. He's gotten a pedigree Heisman finalist, freaking all time fantasy guy. Top two. I mean, he was supposed to do what he's doing. He's fucking stud. He is a stud. Only a stud whips out that marker at seven years old. Seven years old. Does he hope on just tosses into the stands confidence, though?

You see the confidence of the kid knowing you're going to go pro. He didn't. He wasn't like he wasn't John. He was like very professional of him. It was a professional frickin Tio celebration toss on three. What is he? One, two, three side. All right. We'll be right back after this quick break. and toss on three. What is he? former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL network analyst and boy oh boy does daddy have a lot to say. I love you by the way on NHL Network we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love right? Yeah I just met you today but

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10 inches and weighed 215 pounds. Stick to he played for the San Diego Chargers from 2001 to 2009 and the New York Jets from 2010 to 2011. He was born in Rosebud, Texas. Rosebud, Texas. And where he attended Texas Christian University. TCU. Also known as.

Marcus Canyon, the frogs. TCU. Also known as? Marcus Canyon, the frogs. TCU. He was selected by the San Diego Chargers with the fifth overall pick in 2001. These running backs used to get dragged high back then. Back then they were, man. Oh, back then, the running back was the jewel position. Man, everyone wanted to be a running back.

It was the golden charm boy to be a running back. Golden charm boy. Yeah, if you know what I mean. I don't, but I like it. Lucky charms. Golden charm boy. Yeah. You know what I mean. I don't, but I like it. Lucky charms. But the golden lucky charms. Lucky the Irish. Lucky charms.

He notably set the record for most touchdowns in a single season with 31 in 2006. 31 touchdowns. Yes. That's a lot. That's about two per game. That's about 1.95 touchdowns per game. Because That's about one point nine five touchdowns per game. There's 16 games. See, 16 times two is 32 touchdowns.

But then he didn't have 32 at 31. So it's kind of like he had one point nine touchdowns a game. So you get there. So what happened is one game he scored one. I think Ron could code the same season in which he was named the league MVP was in 2006 when he had 31 touchdowns. He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2017. And throughout his career he was a highly sought after player in fantasy leagues.

He holds the record for points in a single fantasy PPR season with 481 points. Julian, who are we talking about, ladies and gentlemen? LaDani and Thomas and what do you think of when you hear of the name, the legend LaDani and Tomlinson? I what do I think? I think of hold on. Let me answer this question. I think of the San Diego Chargers and why they're still not in San Diego and why they are in Los Angeles sharing a stadium with the frickin whatever other team with the Rams

when they can be in San Diego. Because when I think of L.T., I think of San Diego and how he put that city on the map. Dude, he really did. I think of just swag, swaggy. I think of his dark visor. I remember as a little kid doing the touchdown dance like he's he scored so many touchdowns.

It just seemed like he scored two or three touchdowns every game. Like he literally did. If you did, everyone was L.T. fan. I mean, how can you not be an L.T. fan? I mean, he was so elusive on the field like he he he was a guy that made you jump off of your seat, even if you weren't a San Diego Chargers fan, even if your team was facing his team, it didn't matter. You appreciated who LT was out on the football field.

And what's so great about him is that he was so good in the passing game as well. He never had a thousand yard rushing season and a low key pass game guy receiving, you know, season. But like you said, he was super low key in that. And he had these two routes that kind of made him the player that he was in the receiving game. Yeah, you know, we all know as him as the rusher

and how he made everyone miss. He had a solid, solid, stiff arm. You know, he always kept his feet moving as well after he got hit. So that's kind of what made him break the tackle every single time know, he always kept his feet moving as well after he got hit. So that's kind of what made him break the tackle every single time is that when you keep your feet moving while he was like the guy that did that the best. But what made him super special in the receiving game was that he had this scene route out of the backfield that I know.

I know you've seen it before. We were watching a we were seven of eight of them. And somehow Drew Brees and Philip Rivers would find them every time going up that seam route. It was a mismatch every time. You go versus that linebacker or that safety that was supposed to be covering them. But then also right off of it, he had another route that would branch off of the scene.

He countered it. He countered it. And that's why it kept all these guys guessing. He was so quick to have plenty of his foot and breaking out of the seam that no one can get him on the angle route. He was so it's kind of like you thought he was going to run up the seam, run up the hash and boom, he was playing his foot and he would just angle right across the field and boom, the quarterback would just dump it to him.

It was just an easy 10 to 15 yards or possibly a touchdown because every time LT touched the ball, it could possibly be a touchdown because he was that great. But that's what made him great in the passing game, I feel like, because of those two routes right there. 100%. He also had a fucking insane stiff arm. You saw him stiff arm like a lot.

Guys to the ground. You had a great stiff arm. Rob, what's the key to a great stiff arm? I wasn't a good st... I have short arms. I could never get my goddamn arm out there. I couldn't stiff arm. I've seen you stiff arm guys, the ground. I've seen him stiff arm guys to the ground.

How do you stiff arm a guy to the ground? Well, Jules, being stiff is always great. I can tell you that, man. It works in all aspects of life, especially on the football field. Oh, man. Oh, man. You want to be stiff two times in your life. And it's kind of contradicting itself because one is you're marrying a woman. That's the night you want to be stiff on your wedding night.

And the other time you want to be stiff is when 11 guys are chasing you, which kind of contradicts about being stiff and when to be stiff. But the key to a great stiff arm is just feeling yourself feeling strong at the moment, man. Just fricking feeling like no one can take you down and having that right angle at the defender. I mean, if he's too close to you, you can't step on him. It has to be timed up perfectly.

I've had a couple of good stiff arms in my career, but it's because it times up perfectly where you can just reach out and boom, you can hit the guy if he's too close to you or too far away. You got to be able to time it out perfectly. But LT was so special that he could time up that stiff arm at the perfect time every time so he could get the guy off of him so he couldn't tackle him. So that's what makes LT so great. He's timing the timing of the stiff arm and the angle of it as well. That's what makes a great step.

Yeah, I guess I didn't have good timing. Yeah. Yeah. Or short arm. I don't think you've ever had a stiff arm, did you? I didn't really have any stiff arms. I had one on maybe in Buffalo. Yeah. But it was more the guy was down. I was stiff on myself to propel myself. But we're talking about a stiff arm.

But what I loved about him as well is that he's just a shiver man on the field. He shivered every defender shivered and made him just fall straight on their face. Every game, at least one or two defenders, every single game, he protects the ball well. I don't. Yeah, I don't. I don't remember him fumbling. Mm hmm. And another thing that I loved about him that you love, too, is that he loved going airborne

on the goal line. Dude. Talk about that, Jules. And talk about as a fan, like how you just love to see that. Well, he used to do the Jump Man all the time. And I remember when we would install, what is it?

It would be like something jump. Like we would throw on footage of LT jumping because he knew the perfect timing on when to jump, how to jump, the angle to jump, the direction to jump. And he was explosive as fudge. So like it was just not angry. It was he I mean, we were watching all his highlights and we watched like top 60 play.

He had like six, seven, eight of these kind of touchdowns I mean, it wasn't like it was a one-time thing there used to be a play where LT jump over fucking pile It was fucking remarkable to watch this guy was so good at scoring as well I mean obviously he would get yards first downs He would move the ball But this guy was also obviously what makes you the greatest fantasy football player is that you got to score points. You got to get you got to get in the end zone because you can have five carries for 50 yards, but that's still only like five

points. One touchdowns like whatever seven points or however the scoring goes in fantasy. Every league's different. But this guy had five for touchdown games in his career. I don't think that's ever been done by any other player. But to have four touchdowns a game, I never even had a four touchdown game. You had four or three touchdown. I did have four or three touchdown games. I don't even have we ever had a game where we combine for four touchdowns in our career.

I don't know. I don't think so. That just shows how this game may be great. LT was you. Did you have a what I had to touchdown game versus a bunch of couple. I had two against Denver, one against Miami. Well, I can't recall the situation. Maybe if we did have one, if we did have a combined four touch on. It only happened once.

He had how many? Maybe twice in our career, and he had five for touchdown games. So just imagine how many three touchdown games he had. Imagine how many two touchdown games he had as well. Three of them in one year. Oh my God, back to back. Also he has the most consecutive games with a touchdown as well with 18.

He's tied with many more. Yeah, you remember, I remember watching ESPN, they'd always have the LT update when we were kids. You remember, I remember watching ESPN. They'd always have the L.T. update when we were kids. You know, you get the sports center. It was kind of like when Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire were in that home run race. They had always like with LT and he was on so many touchdowns. They had that like LT fucking race thing for the record.

He got it right. It was crazy. Thirty one touchdowns. Mm hmm. Thirty one touchdowns. You ever you ever meet L.T. I never met L.T. before, man. Actually, I know I don't think I have, man. If I did, it was really quick in the event, but I don't think I did. Yeah, I never met him before, but I've only heard great things about him. And there's actually a key to his success.

You know about the key to his success because you worked with the guy that was the key to LT success. Well, he's not the keys to Tom Brady's success or not now, but was the key to Tom Brady's success. He was the guy, you know, that that, you know, kept everyone healthy out on the field. You know who I'm talking about? Alex Guerrero. A.G. baby. That was this is. talking about? Alex Guerrero, a G baby.

That was this is yes. I think for a G was known he was working on guys before he ever even met Tom Brady. A G was doing his work, you know, that he was born to do. And he kept healthy throughout all of his years at L.T. gave a G a shout out in his Hall of Fame speech and L.T. from what I recall, never suffered a serious injury in the game of football because of the work that A.G. does. So that just shows longevity.

Longevity. If you take care of your body, you know, if you get someone to you got a it's football, you're going to get bruises, you're going to have scar tissue build up. You got to get that worked out. And L.T. was one of the few free that understood that. And he was lucky to have a guy like a G so LT can go throughout his whole career healthy. So shout out to a G for keeping shout out. It's running backs of all time. Healthy baby.

Yeah, I remember a G. Oh, he's just talk about him like LT McCardinal or who? Who's the receiver? Keenan, McCardell,? Keenan McCardell. Keenan McCardell. I know who had a long career and had longevity as well. Dude, you got to have the body guy. And I mean, LT, he was fucking healthy running back.

He didn't miss relatively many games. I mean, I actually tackled him. I think I heard him. I was actually going to bring that up, Jules, because I have a bone to pick with you because he played for the New York I know lastled him. I think I heard him. I was actually going to bring that up, Jules, because I have a bone to pick with you, because he played for the New York Jets the last two years. He was so so on, you know, those last two years with the Jets. I mean, unbelievable.

He still made plays. Still made plays. But that was the year that you were on defense playing whatever position you played on defense. You were all over the place. No, you were all purpose on defense. Star. Oh, because you are a star, Jules. No, but I was. That's why. Yeah. So you're a star. You're not nickel.

You're freaking you're a dime, if anything. Yeah, I actually didn't play dime. You're a dime and you're a star in my book. OK. Nickel, you know, that's a guy like like Amidola. His head's getting too big from dancing with the stars. I want to knock him down now. He thinks he's a dime, but he and nickel.

No, he and nickel is getting big. OK. He's a dime, but he a nickel. No, he's a nickel. His eyes getting big. OK, he's a nickel. He's a dancing with the star. Yeah, you're right. He's a true star, actually. But so you tackled him a few times. What was that like? And why did you do what you did to him, bro? Why? It's LT. We love LT. Why do you think I tore his MCO and I think it was his last play?

I think it was his last play. I think it was. Sad, it is sad, bro. It is sad. It's crazy. I that was my first game I played DB. They put me in the meetings that week. I didn't think I was actually going to play that week. And then we were I think we were winning a bunch at the end or we had a 10 point lead. So they wanted to see what I would look like.

We had a cushion and I went in and I and they gave a ball to L.T. Open up the hole. I went to plug it and I went low on them because I'm not fucking going head up with goddamn L.T. and I ended up taking his legs out. I think it was his last play. I felt terrible. Felt terrible. I loved him as a kid. I was my guy. I agree with L.T. I think we talked his last play. I felt terrible. Felt terrible. I loved him as a kid. I was my guy. I agree with LT. I think we talked about it once.

I've met LT like at some some kind of function. And LT was so loved and respected by not just the fans, but everyone in the NFL, all the players that everyone was sad. Even though we were facing the Jets and was on the Jets, like I was sad that LT went down and like other players were sad. L.T. went down. He was such a legend. It's so cool that you tackled L.T. Not so cool. They got hurt in one of your tackles.

I mean, but that was your first game. You were just learning how to tackle like you can't you can't blame you at all. It was a fair hit. Fair play. But how cool like to say that you just even tackled L.T. one of the greatest running backs, one of the best thought about it. One of the most elusive running backs of all time to like that's that should be in your resume that you tackled L.T. bro. And you're an offensive player.

Like that's why it should be in your resume because I tackled. You can brag about that. Yeah. I tackled Shady McCoy to he jumped over me one time to fucking Shady. Yeah, Shady. I was going to tackle it. But he's great over because I went and got a great locker room guy. Oh, all right. Also. So we already know that L.T. all purpose player can do it all. But one thing we didn't talk about is just how good he was at throwing the ball as well.

I mean, he has some passing stats that is probably better QBRs than some of these quarterbacks of this year in a game. Yeah, seven touchdown passes. Eight for 12, 143 yards he has thrown for in his career, seven touchdowns, and he has 146.9 rating as a QBR. I mean, should sign him up right now. A lot of these teams are hurting for a quarterback. God damn.

Damn good rating. Well, Jules, he wasn't six for a quarterback. God damn damn good rating. Well, Jules, he wasn't six for six like you. He doesn't have 100 percent completion. You know, percentage you do. Yeah. And your and your rating was better to your rating was what? Like 150. I'm a math guy. So like 158.3 rating. Am I right? Yeah, it's some say that's also you had 128 yards

you threw for and two touchdowns. Some say that is that perfect. You are a diamond in the start. I would say that is that perfect. You are a diamond star. Someone say that's a perfect. That's a perfect rating. I don't know. I always knew you were perfect, buddy. Yeah, but you're one dude that is just perfect. No. Yeah. Perfect 10. Yeah. Yeah. Man.

He was also a monster in college. LSU, TCU, Horned Frogs. Oh, he's horny. He had a he had a 400 yard game in college. I just took that. He went I took that the wrong direction. When the Heisman, how is that? Because Chris Winky. Chris Winky won the Heisman.

I don't even know who Chris Winky is. I remember him. I don't. Florida State. But I also didn't watch football like that growing up. He played for the Carolina Panthers when he was like 30. He was like a rookie. Well, what about his best game at TCU? I mean, it was ridiculous. It was better than video game numbers.

Yeah, he had 43 carries, 406 yards, and six touchdowns. Ridiculous. God. He should have been number one overall. Who was drafted number one overall that year? In what, 2001 it was? Who was it? Because what?

Michael Vick. All right, you can't argue that. You can't argue was. Who was it? Because what Michael Vick? All right. You can't you can't argue that. You can't argue that. Yeah. All right. Maybe he should have been drafted number one then. Yeah. Vic, Vic was the man. What a class. Michael Vick is the running quarterback who started the running quarterback position basically. And then you got LT who ran the freaking innovated the game as well.

All right, Joel's we've been talking about LT for a little bit. What type of guy is LT? I mean, he's had pedigree. He had the best, almost the best. Single season fantasy. He had the best single season in fantasy for a pro. He had a four hundred yard game and as a as a college kid. I mean, he was drafted for overall five, five touch,

five, four touchdown games. This guy, he's got five of them. So in five games, he was drafted for overall five, five, five, four touchdown games in this guy. He's got five of them. So in five games, he scored 20 touchdowns. Put it that way. That's yeah, a lot. It took me 16 games to score 18 touchdowns. Yeah. This guy's a full blown on three.

One, two, three, Todd. Athleticism, football IQ moves. Balance. He's just died. Always keeps his feet face mask. He just had that dark visor. That's a stud. He's a stud. That's a send it off in the mail. USPS. Bye bye. Let's get on to the next dude.

All right. Next to synopsis. Here we go. What's a I have to say about this? I love dudes, man, especially the first dude. And then the second dude is always a nice guy. Got another. The third dude has your heart. This guy's got my heart. All right. Here we go. This dude standing at five foot, 10 inches and weighing 206 pounds was a versatile NFL running back. He was born in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Hey, Julian, where's the Super Bowl this year? A little quick trivia. OK. OK. Is it New Orleans or is it New Orleans? I think it's New Orleans. It's New Orleans? Combine it?

I think that's like the Frenchy way of saying it, or like the knowledge. We go to knowledge for the Super Bowl this year. We're going to be on TV for Fox doing the pregame show. Check us out at knowledge, baby. All right. Back to the synopsis. All right. Born in New Orleans, Louisiana. He would go out to play college football at San Diego State

where he was a two time All-American. He played for the Indianapolis Colts your favorite team Julian from 1994 to 1998 and the St. Louis Rams from 1999 to 2005 the greatest show on turf. He was sure part of actually he was the show on turf baby. He was drafted as a little trivia as the what just take a guess one through four to ding ding ding. You are correct. He was drafted as a little trivia as the what? Just take a guess. One through four. Two. Ding ding ding. You are correct. He was drafted as a second overall pick in 1990 between three and five for 1994 NFL draft.

That is correct. You're a genius, Jules. He was widely regarded. No wonder why you could play frickin defense and offense at the same time. No way. He was widely regarded as one of the greatest running backs and NFL history. And in your mind, he was. I think he's the greatest of all. There we go.

He has your heart. He was known for his speed, power and ability to excel both as a rusher and a receiver. He was named NFL MVP in 2003. Offensive Player of the Year Awards and a Super Bowl Championship. He was elected to Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2011, which was my fantasy football season that I dominated.

So Marshall Falk and I, we have a connection. Oh, 2011. He went into the Hall of Fame. 2011 I had my best fantasy football season, baby. Oh, we on the same page. So we're on to Marshall Falk. Oh, oops, oops, oops. I gave it away. I'm so sorry.

Oh, he is still regarded as one of the best fantasy football running backs of all time. But fantasy football was even that big in the 90s and 2000s. But he still regarded as one of the best. That's how good he was. Jules were on to Marshall Falk. Marshall Falk. First thing that comesules. We're on to Marshall Falk. Marshall Falk. First thing that comes to mind when I think about Marshall Falk is what Jules? What comes to your mind? Greatest show on turf.

He's the best running back of all time in your heart. You watch Marshall Falk. He reminds you of Barry Sanders. And he also like he had the stop go. He was really good at cutting back. He had really great vision. He's bigger than what you thought. And then you throw in the past game where he is the original.

I mean, there's Roger Craig and those old West Coast, but he was like the original fucking personnel problem guy. We're like he got thousand. I think he did the thousand thousand. He did that one time, but he had a lot like 800, 900, 400, five. Like he was a pivotal part of their past game. He was great in the run game like and he didn't get hurt. He was healthy his whole career like he didn't miss games. That's like.

Unreal, especially how he played, I mean, he missed a game here or two, but he didn't have any significant time message. So like he's, I think one of the he's, he's probably because of that. And this, this is a newer style football of being someone that uses using the pass game. It was super kind of like not known when Roger Craig and those old 49ers and those bills teams, those running shoe teams and West Coast team. It wasn't like normal. After Marshall Falk, people were trying to make Marshall Falk.

And then you get LTS and you get the Christian McCaffrey's. It is because Marshall Falk, man, took it to a whole other level. I mean, I think he just, you know, miss only you were talking about how prolific of a player he was in sustainability. I think he just missed only 16 games in his 12 years of playing and at the running back position getting what what 30 plus carries a game getting tackled that many times and just to miss 16 games out of 12 seasons is just incredible. All those catches as well running full speed downhill a linebacker running full speed

at you and getting blown up and just still being able to be that sustainable and have that long longevity is just out of control. And the synopsis, the AI also missed that he was a seven time pro bowler. He was a three time all pro. Uh, you know, he was rookie of the year in 1994 as well. So right when he got on the scene, he was producing man. He was not a bus at all. Obviously not a bus. We're talking about him as as a great of all time, but he was producing right away. So he made that GM feel very good right from the beginning. Greatest show on turf. Obviously, that's what you think of him whenever you hear about him,

which was one of the coolest, you know, names that you could be, you know, associated with in all of football. And what's great about Marshall Fogg and LT as well is that these guys were the running backs when the running back position was the absolute she like everyone wanted to be a running back growing up as player. Not really anymore. But this coming back, this coming back, coming back.

Look at the great era right now where these guys were everyone growing up. Even if you were a defense alignment, you still wanted to be a running back. I was a tight end. I wanted to be running back because of these guys, LT and Marshall Falk, baby. No, without a doubt. Isn't it crazy to think he played with Peyton Manning? Hey, Manny. Yeah, he played last year. All this shit, too, though.

Yeah. No, but yeah, no one remembers him. Everyone everyone forgets about how good of a cult he was. He's got his his his jerseys in the rafters. He played four years there and they retired his jersey. He was rookie of the year. His first game on the scene goes for one thirty four three touchdown debut. Like, that's crazy. He just he was a fucking machine.

He hit you like he hit you with the run run long run. He had the backfield talk about seam route. We talked about seam route with LT. He ran seam routes. He ran. I saw him run a bang a post from the outside, which is a real receiver route. He used to run real receiver routes. Now they always throw this, this, this running back can run routes like a receiver, which, you know,

which is rare. Like you can't, you can tell when it's a running back that's split out wide, especially in this area. Even now, it's no, a lot of guys, even the analysts will say this guy runs, he's got routes like a receiver. But no, no, that analyst is wrong. Yeah. Marshall Faulk though, he had routes like a receiver, but no not sure that analyst is wrong. Yeah, Marshall Falk though He had routes like a receiver. Yes He did he had routes like a receiver if you can run a post route split out wide and run a post route as a running Back that means you got routes like a wide receiver that he I mean in cuts out cuts Option routes the typical route for running back right now five yard hits route route. Frickin we started one step turn around.

What's that called again? Real quick, like the quick pass. You just step one turn screen. Yeah. A little screen rip screen to you. They also a little under and the angles and the seams out of the backfield. Marshall Falk was running the whole entire fricking route tree. Route tree. Yes, that's for sure.

I mean, in 1999, 1300 yards rushing a thousand forty eight receiving Chris Johnson broke his record in 2009, though, 2500 yards. Man, I forgot how good Chris Johnson, Chris Johnson, C.J. to K. Bay Bay. Yeah, he did. That was crazy that year. The three year run in St. Louis with the greatest show on turf. Nineteen ninety nine through 2001. He had fifty nine touchdowns, six thousand seven hundred

and fifty six yards at offense. Any one MVP in 2000 that in a Super Bowl. That is a elite three year. That's a show. If you ask me. I mean, Marshall Falk made playing on turf cool, even though playing on turf wasn't cool. Like everyone wanted turf fields in high school because of Marshall Falk and the greatest show on turf. But you get so bruised and banged up playing on turf that it was

it was the worst idea ever to even step on. And it was old turf. You know, it's crazy. He was on old turf and he didn't. He played that many games and didn't miss that many games. It is crazy. That is like that's built differently. You want to hear a little cool, fun fact. John Payton was his running back coach at the San Diego State University

when San Diego State was there playing running back. How does it create it? That's that's crazy. You know, you know what it tells you? There's a lot of unscouted guys in Louisiana if he's going to San Diego State. Talk about getting unscouted. He only had one offer. That's what I mean.

Yeah, and it was two San Diego State. That's what I mean. That's how much talent there is, probably goes unseen in Louisiana. I mean, you went unseen in your California. We got a lot of big people. But you weren't that good in high school, honey. I was pretty pretty. Yeah.

But but also his high school, they were kind of like a heavy passing offense as well. Like they didn't really. OK. But he must have not been that great in high school, because if you're that great, you kind of like change from going to a heavy passing offense like they all let's hand the ball off like this guy is 100 times better. But like he must have really burst onto the scene at San Diego State University, like once he got in the college, kind of like you, Jules, a little bit.

Not everyone is a beast. Late bloomers, they call it. Yeah. Maybe I'm telling you this. It's better to be a late bloomer than an early bloomer. How about I can tell you that right now? It sucks to be the greatest as a young buck. And then you don't make it. No. So late bloomers. I'm a late bloomer.

I think you just bloomed. Yeah. He sold popcorn at the Superdome as a kid. How crazy is that? That is pretty crazy. But that's that's a lot of stories that just shows that just shows his workout that just as a kid that's installed into him. And that's like that's what makes you great. Like I was a paper boy growing up and I took that route personal

and I wanted to make sure everyone had that paper on their front porch when they woke up in the morning with the coffee in their hand, opening up the door like the hard work and dedication was just installed into you as a young kid. And that's just like Marshall Fox selling popcorn at the Superdome. He wanted the job and he wanted to get it done. You ever have any crazy jobs as a kid? I was a paper boy. I was also an umpire as a kid and uh I was a I cooked. Let me see your strike three. Let me see your strike three. You out of here mother trucker. Did you used to bring these kids. I used to do. I used to umpire.

At college in Kent, and I used to ring up these kids all the time. How? I change it up. Certain kid lefty. I mean, I got in a real pit. You sounded like like a true pro right there. But that's true.

You love like. Yeah. You love the animated effects. You sounded like. Oh, you got right there. But that's true. You love like, you love the animated effects. You sounded like, oh, you got me there. Shit, I just struck out over here with that strike out. I was over here to ring these little kids up, send them home. Yeah, I got a real pickle once.

Do what? Let's hear it. I like pickles. Especially Angelica Pickles, Rugrats. Do, do, do, do, do, do. No, she was mean actually. No, she she was mean, actually. Yeah, that pickles was mean. All right. All right. Back to your pickle.

Oh, oh, oh, Tommy Pickles to Tommy Pickles was my favorite. Oh, pickle like you're in baseball. Like, yeah, in a pickle. That type of pick. Yeah. OK. Literally. That was my favorite. You ever play running bases growing up? 100 percent. Yeah. And it's all about being a pickle because kids love to play that game pickle in this specific league.

There was a rule where they they couldn't like the the catcher couldn't sit and fake throw the ball at first. So like they had to throw it back in the runner couldn't advance to try to eliminate to try to eliminate pickle. So one time the kids are doing it and all of a sudden I tell the catcher, I'm like, kid, throw it, throw it back to the pitcher. Ain't going nowhere. We throws it back. The kid takes off.

And I'm like, oh, fuck. And so all of a sudden they throw it and the kid, it goes over the kid's second baseman. The kid gets all the way to third. And all of a sudden, the coach is yelling at the second basement. The kid gets all the way to third. And all of a sudden the coach is yelling at the catcher, why'd you throw it back? And the kid looks at me and he goes,

the ump told me to throw it back. So I'm sitting there, I got this coach over here. There's another coach over there. And I'm like, yeah, you gotta go back to first. All of a sudden this coach comes out, I was like, what the hell is you talking about? He's on third, he's on, I was like, no, he got to go back to first. All of a sudden, this coach comes out like, what the hell is you talking about? He's on third. He's on. I was like, no, he's got to go back.

I told the kid to throw it back. You know the rule. We can't do that. And I almost had to get suspended as an umpire because this guy filed a report like, oh, this guy can't do it. So I'm sitting there. This little kid, as soon as the pitcher comes back and I get under there and it's just me and him, because, you know, you have a relationship with the catcher

when you're behind the plate. I go, bro. Didn't your friends ever teach you about snitches? And the kid goes, what? I was like, nothing. Strike. Fucking old. Yeah. Having a job as a kid. I mean, it teaches you a lot of values. You mean it sure does. You know, especially Marshall Falk selling popcorn at the Superdome. Popcorn popcorn. Who wants some popcorn?

All right. And then just a little scouting port that I have on Marshall Falk. Just watching some of his film highlight films, top plays is that obviously he has a high football IQ to be able to, you know, come out of the backfield and run all the routes and also to be able to carry the ball and know how to hit the gaps. You got to know the whole game of football. He's when you're that versatile of a player, you got to have a high football IQ, which a lot of football players obviously have a high football IQ,

but he had it to a whole another level. And he's so elusive on the field. He makes defenders miss. But the one thing I really love the bottom was he had one of the best spin moves, man. Spin move off the charts. He just smoothed with it, too. Remember, we were we were watching some research

and there is a clip of Mike Martz. Remember we were talking he was the head coach of the greatest show on turf. Yeah, I remember. What did he say about him? What do you say? Well, come on. Marshall was, you know, tell them jewels. They have all these notes for installation and Marshall's got all these pens out and he's got very critique notes and using different colors

for different positions, different players. And I guess Marshall looks back at the guy, the team, and he goes, how the hell is no one else write notes? Because look at all this information. You know, that's the kind of guy he was. He was a smart, hardworking dude that worked his balls off for everything he had. It wasn't like he was just that. I mean, he was that guy, but it's crazy.

He I mean, he rivaled. I used to love Barry Sanders. And then, you know, I I just remember as a kid, this guy Marshall Falk was just so crazy. He reminded me a little bit of Barry Sanders with his cutting and his he could drop his weight and stuff. He was taller. He wasn't as short as Barry. But like he was kind of like Barry Sanders.

And then he was also a really good receiver. Yeah, he was like a little bit thicker than Barry Sanders, but also he can go out and run routes. Yeah. It's crazy. That's why like I was thinking about it and I was we were watching all this research and I'm sitting there. I'm like, dude, this is like probably one of the best. This is the best guy of all time. Look at look at these plays. Yes. And just talking about. But it's crazy. Then you then you watch Jim Brown. You watch Walter Payton. And I don't know if it's just because I just watched it.

So many good running backs, bro. So many good. But it's hard to decide and decipher like who's number one. But just talk about his football IQ. I mean, look at this quote from Sean Payton. He knew not only the offensive side of the football, but also the defensive protections. And he knew the quarterback play as well. And he studied it hard.

That's just from champagne. Michael Strahan said he was a coach out there. He's quoted saying that. So like that just shows how smart of a player he was. And that's what took his game to a whole nother level as well. So just speaking of that jewels, what type of guy is Marshall Falk? What kind of dude? What kind of dude is he? What kind of dude is Marshall Falk? What kind of dude is he?

What kind of dude is Marshall Falk? I mean, he hits a lot of things. These running backs, though, we're talking about them. None of them are actually like freaks. Like, none of them stand out to you like that. Like, I would say like, little Garrett Blunt was a freak because he was like 6'4". Derrick Henry.

Yeah, Derrick Henry's a freak. Like, these guys aren't he was like six for Derek Henry. Yeah. Derek Henry is a freak. Like these guys aren't freaks like that. I mean, they're not. No, but they had it's it's freaky that it's freaky what they're doing, but they're not freaks in our category. How healthy he was for how much football he played. I mean, he's got some dog tendencies. He's clearly a freaking stud.

But when I think of them. I think of him as an innovative guy. We're on the same page, brother. Same page. Pretty much. That's how smart he was smart and how he's changed the running back position to what it's become now. Look at Saquon Barkley out of the backfield. Look at look at Christian McCaffrey out of the backfield.

You know, it's such a pivotal part of a lot of these offenses are running back. They usually have a two headed monster. You know, Detroit has, you know, Montgomery and Gibbs and Algerian and Robinson in Atlanta. These two this guy did all three downs and was just as good as all those guys and better at a lot of these and everyone at both of them. Like that's how good Marshall Falk was.

He he invented a position. He he he evolved the running back position. That's why I think he's a whiz. Hey, I'm on the same page and just his football IQ and just the coaches and former players that just talk about how smart he was and how he knows everything that's going out, you know, going on on the football field. That takes your game to a whole nother level. I mean, you can be an freak of an athlete, you know,

but if you don't know what to do out on the football field, you're not a good football player. You can be less of an athlete, but you know how what's going on with the game. He wasn't less of an athlete. You can be that much better than the guy that's more free. That's more athletic than you on the football field You're a better football player because of that and what's also crazy is Marshall Falk had 760 receptions in his career for 600 more than me in 70

875 yards Julian in the regular season you had 620 receptions only for 6822 yards and he was a running back and he had more receptions and yards than you, which is out of control. I'm not saying anything against you. I'm just saying that's how good Marshall Falk was back in the day. And guess what? They didn't throw the ball as much either back in that era. You know, back in the late 90s, to be so crazy. Not to mention one thing.

Kevin Falk's his cousin. That's the. That would they just love bloodline. They have some crazy running backs that know how to catch out of the backfield in that bloodline and run the ball as well. Well, I mean, K Falk, all of our past game was the K Falk. It was he was like one of the most elite. And he was one of the smartest players in the football field as well. These folks, he knew what was going on. He knew what the linemen were doing, what the doing.

What the fuck? What the fuck? How are you guys so smart? And good? Yeah. And and frickin great teammates. Yeah, great teammates. Well, what kind of duties he jewels you ready on 3123 ways. Stamp it. Put it in the mail. We'll be right back after this quick break. What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from I Heart Podcasts in the National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Burke and Demers. Hey, I'm Jason Demers, former 700 game

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Kyler and Jack and everyone helped us with some guys. Love our producers. Thank you guys. Thank you, Kyler. Let's let's let's orchestrate a lineup. Jack Kyler. This is a PPR lineup. I think we're going to quarterback running back, running back, receiver, receiver, tight end, defense, special team kickers. So we're going to go, okay, there's no, there's no flex.

No, that's all right. That's all right. All right, we did, we just had a flex. No, no, no flex. Jules, I'm flexing right now, brother. All right. I'm taking you down this week in fantasy. No shot. You're going down. One and 12, going to be two and week in fantasy. No, you're going down.

One in 12 going to be two in 12, baby. I'm not even taking Jamal Williams out of the frickin bye week either. I'm going to start him still. That's how confident I am. Put a fork in them. Quarterback. Now, is this all time seasons? Our quarterback, we got to go paint. We got to go. I mean, do you know what? I mean, it's obvious. We got to pick. All right.

We yeah, I know. We just love we do love you. Sometimes I feel like we're just picking you too many times, Tom. Yeah, but but how you're the greatest. So it's not our fault. You know, I know, like. I just don't want you to get sick of us talking about you, OK? OK, Tom, we're picking Tom fucking Brady.

Yeah, Tom Brady, let's go, baby. Running back, running back. Oh, well, obviously we're going with. Yeah, no, no. LT had the greatest fantasy football season of all time. Oh, you get to OK, Marshall Falk and LT LT. Let's go without it. Also, it's not per year. It's like I just got confused. Yes. LT had that one season where it's the greatest of all time in fantasy. But this is overall.

And both of those two are actually the greatest without a doubt of all time overall. So LT Marshall Falk are two running backs, baby receiver. Oh, I go. Randy. Randy was probably nasty. Oh, Randy. I mean, also Randy and then whatever. Jamar Jamar chases. He had a fucking foreigner. He had that crazy game.

I might go with Jamar right now. What about Jerry Rice? Here, brother. Where's Jerry? Why is Jerry not on the list? I mean, the guy played Jerry off for like 25 years. Jerry, Randy, Jerry. Definitely Jerry Moss, bro. Come on, Randy, Jerry, Jerry, Randy. Yeah. Randy Jerry. Definitely Jerry Moss, bro. Come on, Randy.

Jerry, Jerry, Randy. Yeah. Tight end. I mean, we got to go with you, Rob. All right. Fine. We got to go with. I'll accept that. Thanks. I mean, he had it. Was that the best fantasy year of all time?

Yes, yes. For a time. There you go. Special team. Thank you. Defense. Special teams. Defense was probably a Baltimore Ravens team. When you say that 85 Bears. Oh, the 85 Bears would be a great or Legion of Boom years. Or the Ravens. I'm going to go with the Baltimore Ravens. I

feel like they're just the most known and they were good at special teams of all times and special teams. Yeah. Yep. Let's go. Ravens. Ravens, 2000 Ravens. That's just an error that that whole era of that decade, the 2000 decade with the Ravens and just Ray Lewis and frickin the same read every was read. Read was there a whole time. So just a decade of the Ravens in the 2000s and then kicker.

I mean, we got to go with probably Adam Venetary, correct? I mean, Steve was. Yeah, I love Steve. I love I love I love Gustav. I love his clutch. You know, Gus, he was was clutch, bro. He came through. Well, people don't realize us plenty of times. Steve. Yeah. He had like the best record of overall kicking percentage until he hurt his hip and then his hip went and then he started missing a little member and then we put him on our and then he just

golfer or yeah, not golfers, but kickers. He had a couple solid years after the hip and yeah, but that fucked him up a little. Yeah, a little. I mean, injuries. Those guys are super, bro. That's why it makes me wonder about Justin Tucker. Does Justin Tucker have, you know, something going wrong? Because he's missing some stuff that we don't. There's got to be. But the thing with Tucker is, bro,

like people are acting like like he can't kick the ball that far anymore. Like he's just shanking home like and it's bad. Like he's barely missing these. I know, but that's heavy. That's like he's barely missing. I'm talking like a foot to the left, a foot to the right. Like I'm thinking like how everyone's ripping on my mind and see the kick. I'm like, wait, that was a very solid. I know I don't rip them.

I feel bad. It's tough, man, because, you know, that's how that's how the football gods, they humble you. Sometimes they do. You never get the football. Never get up here. You never have a big head in football because you like you said, you'll offer all gods will come in, just swipe you right out

on your knees, your feet and just humble you the next week. When was that's what I've learned? When was your I learned about football in my life? Your humble experience. I had one, too. All right. I mean, NFL humbled you. Well, well, let's see your years. Well, mine was I remember in 2015. We were balling.

Remember, we started out 10 and we just won our Super Bowl. Yes. I was lighting it up like I had. It was I think that was week nine and I had like 60 catches, seven touchdowns. I was I was like, just fucking we were we were on a roll. And like I remember I bought a condo in Boston and I was sitting there and I was redoing and I was sitting in there. Big shot. Yeah. And it was empty. It was fully I was it was completely demoed. Like I was just sitting there imagining what I was doing with. And I was sitting there like, man, this is awesome.

I feel like football is real at an easy point, you know? And I remember the next week I broke my foot. And like, I remember specifically thinking when I broke my foot of that situation, I was in the condo thinking, man, the football gods fucking sat me down and said, shut the fuck up. And it hurt me. That's why. And that's why I always got crazy at the end of wins and stuff like super like, no, it's not over yet. We got to wait to this is that because anytime I thought things were great,

I got slapped down 100 percent. I learned my after my second year, like, you know, when I when I injured my ankle going into the Super Bowl in 2000, whatever, in that AFC championship game versus Ravens. And then that offseason, like I still thought I was unstoppable and invincible, you know, from the season. So I did terrible rehab. I was still going out on on on my boot.

Like I'm supposed to be on crutches and I'm freaking already walking on the boot, drunk and all that stuff, thinking I'm going to heal like totally, you know, normal. And then like training camp comes and I became like I was the best tight end like ever. And I like swear I became like the worst tight end ever when that training camp came because like I had to pretend I was healed even though my ankle was messed up still because I was just so young and dumb that I thought I was going to heal no matter what. And I was doing all the things that Gronk was doing, you know, that what everyone loved Gronk for.

So at least everyone loved me for it. But when it came down to that camp the following year, bro, I couldn't get open for nobody. My ankle was messed up. It wasn't firing. My whole body wasn't firing. That's when I learned like, oh, my gosh, man, like I thought I was open for nobody. My ankle was messed up. It wasn't firing. My whole body wasn't firing. That's when I learned like, oh my gosh, man, like I thought I was the greatest thing, you know? Yeah.

Which I kind of was, but I'm going to get knocked out right after I get up out of this chair. I'm going to someone's going to just come and hit me for saying that. No. Just getting my head too big. But I just showed right there that, hey, you got to put the work in.

And I thought just thought it was going to come natural to me. The football gods. Boom. You got to put the work in if you don't, even when you get hurt, you know, when you get knocked down, you got to put the work back in to come back up. And that's when I truly learned like, hey, I got to truly start taking care of myself. That was one of the times that my eyes were open. Like, wow, like, wow, I suck right now because I didn't really take care of myself like how I supposed to. And the football world just comes and smacks you right in the face.

Just like that. That's why I came up with the term happily miserable because I had to be in a miserable mindset in order to be happy. Because if I was if I was happy, then it would make me miserable if by something bad happening. Do that science. I 100% agree with you, bro, because when you're miserable,

you're trying to do everything right to get back to happy. And when you're happy for too long, you forget about doing all the right things that got you to be happy. So you gotta become miserable again. Happily miserable. You are a freaking genius, Jules. You are a genius.

That's some due knowledge right there. That's due to undue knowledge. Hopefully, share that with the world, brother. We gotta share it. I have. I made a t-shirt knowledge right there. That's dude on due knowledge. Hopefully share that with the world, brother. We got to share it. I have. I made a T-shirt there. Read read the whole what's our team, Rob? All right. Quarterback position. We got the goat. We got the greatest.

We got the quarterback that we actually made famous. Julian Tom Brady, ladies and gentlemen. A lot of touchdowns for you. And then I running back, the Danian Tomlinson and running back,, Marshall Faulk, the two greatest fantasy football players of all time. Wide receiver. We got the straight cash homie right there. Show off the shirt jewels shot out to Randy Moss.

Love baby. Also wide receiver Jerry Rice, who played like 50 years and there's absolutely dominated every single year that he played. And then defense special teams. We got the Baltimore Ravens decade of the 2000s because they were just absolute savages, absolute beasts. They put the fear in everyone that they were lining up against Ray Lewis. They were led by him, who's one of the greatest linebackers,

if not one of the greatest linebacker of all time. And then we're going with kicker, Steven Guskowski. Are we going Guskowski? Are we going with Guskowski? No, we're gonna go with Vin and Terry. We do. We're going Gus Kovsky. We're going with Gus Kovsky. No, we're going to go to the interior. We do got to go very, very. I love Gus Kovsky. But we ask, we do. We just got and you forgot you forgot tight end. We got to go. You and you didn't want to read your name. But without a doubt,

you got to go grab on fantasy. I was just being humble. I didn't want to get humbled by the football gods. Yeah, I humbled myself and like I say my angels. I really wish you were on that list. Jules. What the heck? Can we put slot receiver? Because we're good. We're good. Well, you're being humble. You don't want to be humble by the football gods.

Well, I'm going to put you on their slot receiver. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're right. We know that fantasy football takes place during the regular season. Don't put them on. If it was the postseason, it'd be different. I just garage like my water bottle. I'm getting so excited about fantasy touchdowns. What's our what? What's our team name? Oh, uh, dudes.

Dudes, rad team, auto draftees. Yeah, I like that, actually. Dudes, rad, dude, dudes, rad team, auto draftees. No, dude's rad team auto draftees. No dudes rad auto draftee dudes rad earns auto draftees. Yeah. Because remember, if we have Ernie in there. Oh, yeah. You got to be automatically a genius. Yeah. Earns auto draftee. He's got football.

He's got the football guys on his side. Ernie. Well, he probably probably never happy. He was always. Yeah. You know, he stays in that like calculation mindset where he's happy, but like he's happy counting numbers. That's different than that. I can't be like, oh, man, I got fucking 60 catches in nine games. I'm fucking the. And he never talks.

So he was always right. He was always humble, always thinking about the next thing. So he could never have a big head. Never big head full of knowledge. That's all. But not a big head full of, you know, being cocky. Just just a good guy. Good guy. Great library to a great guy. Well, that's been another episode of Dudes on Dudes.

What could we do? Well, I bet I can tell you this, Jules, because, you know, what can we do better? Well, a lot of fans saying what we what I could do better was I could wear shoes. So I like you got to let me tell you, I'm listening to you guys. And I thought if they said I could be better on the show, because if I if I wear shoes and I'm going to wear shoes, because I'm going to show the fans out there. So what are the shoes here today, baby?

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