Games with Names - Dudes on George Kittle, Richard Sherman, and Howie Long

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

This week we're heading west to talk about some dudes that made their name balling out in the Pacific Time Zone. We're talking what makes George Kittle so tough to stop and his love for pro wrestling. We break down how Richard Sherman backed up the trash talk. We dive in on what a beast Howie Long was on and off the field. We wrap it up by cutting some wrestling promos. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics

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Pulled out a tin, put it right on my thing, put one finger and just slid it to me and give me a head nod and just walked by that was the first Interaction I ever had with him and it couldn't have been any more how we welcome to dudes on dudes That's wrong. And that's the flying squirrel jewels Hey, this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dude And boy do we have some dudes for you today? favorite dudes. And boy do we have some dudes for you today. Who the hell do we got today? I'm a little biased so I'm gonna go with a tight end. First off we got George Kittle. I bet you he hasn't come out to the weight room song when he goes into the weight room. Like he probably puts

on one song like a wrestling song. Who's next Rob? Richard Sherman. Legion of Boom guy. Sherman Aida. That AFC Championship game where he tipped it from Crabtree and last like 30 seconds. One of the most impressive plays I've ever seen a cornerback make. That was for the game. That was to go to the Super Bowl. And then who do we cap it off with? I wanna go back in history, Rob.

Howie Long, ladies and gentlemen. I think our dads got so turned on from Howie Long's hits. They made us. We were created. I can't wait. We'll break down their games and share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes really are.

Let's get into it. Let's go. Let's go. Dudes on dudes is a production of I heart radio. Let's get on George Kittle. Rob. What do you got? What's AI saying?

Let's see what AI has today for me. George Kittle. Rob, what do you got? What's AI saying? Let's see what AI has today for me. George Kittle. Here we go. AI. George Kittle is known for being an exceptional tight end with a combination of dynamic receiving skills and strong blocking ability. He excels in both the passing game and the run game, using his athleticism, speed, and physicality to make plays and create opportunities. Kittle is also recognized for his toughness and versatility, making him a key

weapon in the San Francisco 49ers offense. I agree. His ability to gain yards after the catch and his effectiveness as a blocker make him one of the most well-rounded and impactful tight ends in the NFL Let's start the clock. We already should have we're two minutes in. Yeah, dude kiddle He's like the first of this whole Iowa fucking craze tight ends. Well, who else was in there? Not necessarily I'm gonna kind of throw myself into that category. You want to know why you went to Iowa? No, I didn't go to Iowa, but you want to know why why my first two years in the NFL?

Yeah, my tight end coach who was Brian Farrin Brian Farrin's offensive court. Yes for the Iowa Hawkeyes I remember Brian Farrin's and always put you up on that board. He was a fun coach. I love Brian Farrin's I'll still remember to this day some of the lessons he taught me and first off he taught me how to block He's the one who made help make me the blocker of who I was in the NFL, which is very much what kiddle is exactly. And that's why kill is an all around tight end because they emphasize blocking first, no doubt about it. And on top of it, Brian, Brian Farrin's many times always told me, just keep being you, man. You're awesome guy. Keep being you. It's going to get you the places that you would

never imagine. So thank you coach. Farris. I'll still remember that to this day. What I loved about coach Farris. He says when you're nervous, you're ready and I was nervous coming into this podcast world and I thought about him again. I thought about about him every single game I had and I was nervous. You're nervous. You're ready. Thank you coach Farris. Do you know what and it's crazy what coach Farrance basically said to you is probably everything that like Kittle is kind of shoots out on the field. You know, selfless guy, be yourself, which he's a very

charismatic dude. When you think of like, he's a funny dude. He's the guy who started tight end you, which is this huge event, which you get to go to all the time like he's he's a character not just off the field but he's got that fun like little kid like Rob kind of energy like Gronk energy when he's playing because you guys both like when you guys

both play it looks like you guys are having the funnest time ever you know like you guys like blocking he loves blocking Kittle gets open a lot because of how hard he blocks. It's the truth, man. And if you're a good blocker in the NFL at the tight end position,

you're gonna be able to get those easy passes thrown your way. Like that's the reward for blocking in the NFL is a play action passes. When the linebacker step up, the quarterback just dumps it to you after the fake handoff to the running back and boom, you catch it, you know, eight yards down the field and boom, then you just make the safety

miss. You can have a 20 yard gain off of a little play action pass and just keep the chains moving. Well, here's the question. Miami University was tight on you back in the day when I was high school. Is Iowa who they had the freaking Greg Olsen, Jeremy Shaki, Kellan Winslow, Winslow Jr. Yeah, Winslow Jr. What did he say? I'm a soldier. Yeah, I'm a soul jar. And he's like that because you want to know why he said it? Because he absolutely leveled like five guys on one play.

Yeah. And then they asked him about that play and then he goes, I'm a soldier. He's not taking any shit. He's in war. But they had a couple other guys as well that was going to league that they were sending the backups were getting drafted Greg Olson Greg Olson fucking team I said Greg Olson, you know, I would never forget Greg Olson You can't but that was the tight end you when we were growing up that was tight end you now Really has to be Iowa and it's because the start of this this whole thing with Kittle I mean kettle fifth round draft, which is makes it even more impressive.

He's a fifth round guy. He wasn't the biggest dude. He wasn't the strongest dude, but he always fucking blocks his nuts off. He's willing to give his body up. He makes big time plays for his team when they needed on a crucial third down. He makes red area blocks where he's taking his fucking

defensive end and drive him in the end zone blocks where he's taking his fucking defensive end and drive him in the end zone like he's the guy that you always want to play with. He's that that's that's the kind of and he's always fun. You could tell he's positive. And he comes from like a lore of family from Iowa. Like, what do you what do you mean, Jules? You can tell he he is positive. Like, that's just a well known fact that he is a positive guy.

Whenever you're around George Kittle, like your aura just lifts up. He's just always looking for the best thing out of anything that happens, you know? Yeah, he's very optimistic. He's like optimistic, positive thinker. You know, and honestly, that's the kind of vibes that you gave off when we were in the locker room. There's guys that are hardos, there's guys that are assholes.

Like I was a guy that was like I had to be in a certain mindset to asshole. Yeah, I had to be an asshole, not an asshole. But like I. But you weren't. You weren't an asshole, but you were like a. I made it. I made guys a hardo. I was hard. I know you, but you weren't that just a tad bit because you were.

Like you said, you were making them accountable. And that's what the technique you use to make them. And that's because I worked so hard and it took me a long place to get to where I got. So like that's what the technique you use to make them accountable. And that's because I worked so hard and it took me a long place to get to where I got. So like, that's what I was like. Then there was guys like Kittle and yourself that like you guys work insanely hard. You do great in the classroom,

but you do it with like a smile on your face and you're always happy. Like there's different guys in the locker room. And that's what I feel when I think of like George Kittle that guy is just like a positive great dude to have around, especially with, you know, their locker room. They got so many different charismatic characters there. You're like, it's just a great piece. I think he's a freaking baller. And going back to Iowa and about being tight end you, they also had T.J. Hockinson come out of Iowa, one of the highest paid tight ends in the game.

Noah, fan font. How do you say his last name? Faint? I don't know. Fine. Noah, fine. Seattle. He's boss. Yes. Yes. He's a great player. He's huge, man. That dude's huge. Hall. You got Sam Laporta, the best rookie last year. Went to the Pro Bowl over 800 yards.

I'm sure he's going to have over a thousand yards and ten plus TDs this year as well Give the University of Iowa for this decade You know to be known as tight end you for sure for sure the story about his dad writing them letters before every game That's pretty hard-hitting did your pops ever write you anything? No, my pops never wrote me anything like that, but he always motivated me, especially growing up. He always told me, Hey, if you want to be better than everyone else, if you want to get to the next level, you got to outwork everyone. My dad's been selling fitness equipment for over 30 years now. So he put a weight room in the basement and said, Hey,

Hey, you want to make it to the pros buddy? You want to make it? You want to be able to dunk? You want to be able to block? You want to be able to toss guys around. Well, get your ass in the weight room and get stronger. Now, you know, he wasn't a hard ass about it, but he always let us that way. Hey, get in the basement. Now you want to be strong. Get in the basement. You want to whoop some ass. Get in the basement. He's got that same, you know, it may be different because he's getting letters and you're eating weights. You know, it's still that dad kind of love. Like I had mine in a different way. You always know and hear about him and his relationship with his family. He seems like just a fun dude off off off the field, too. He is a fun. Have you ever hung out with him?

I've only hung out with him at TitanU and I just met him a couple of times just really quick. And he's always fun. Just so positive. And what I love about him though is that we are very similar. That's for sure. We have similar game. He's an all around Titan and he's the best all around Titan in the game right now. Blocker. Yes. Blocker. Yes. In the receiving game. What I really love about him is he's a WWE fan, bro, and he's an ultimate WWE fan. Pretty sure he's done a couple things with WWE. I think with WrestleMania, I think his favorite wrestler is like, Luca, Hanna, Luca Hanna.

He has that vibe to go into wrestling after he's done playing. He always be cutting WWE promos. He's always upbeat. I mean, he's good at those. He's got great energy. I mean, in order to start national tight end day, he started tight end you while playing. He's got a lot of juice. And that's why people love him. That's why his teammates love him. I mean, I'm sure how many guys do you think he has picked up on his team that are down. Yeah, don't feel like playing right there He is he's there every day. Hey guys, let's go. Let's go. Let's have fun. Let's go make some plays Let's go catch some balls. Let's go do this. Let's go do that You know, he's just aura is to pick guys up around him. That's a guy you want in your locker room That's not you want on your team, especially at the tight end position the best position in the game I read not bias, you know, I mean he was a standout on the TV show Receiver.

I mean, that's how big of an aura he has for a tight end. Like he went on to Receiver and pretty much dominated that show. Not that saying like statistically this that, but like his story was like so fun watching on that him and his family and he's got a crazy sneaker collection. He's a monster. He is a monster. And it's just he's got a crazy sneaker collection. He's a monster. He is a monster. And it's just he's like a guy that you want to work out with when you're working out. Sometimes you go into the workout and you're like, I gotta work out.

He's like a James Devlin in the weight room. Yeah, he is. But then you just start working out with him and boom, automatically the switch is switched and just like turning the lights on. You just when you're around him, you hit that switch up and boom, the lights are on. I bet you he hasn't come out to the weight room song when he goes into the weight room. Like he probably puts on one song like a wrestling song, like a like a stone cold. They're not. They're not.

And like that's how I bet he he starts his fucking workout because he's so like that. What I don't like about him, though, is he broke my receiving record. Well, Travis Kelsey did too that year, but George Kittle broke my receive. He broke your silver. Yeah. I had 1300, 27 yards that one year. And yeah, he broke that. And plus he had a 200 plus yard game, which is incredible. As a tight end, 200 plus yards, but that's 10 minutes. We got to determine. Oh my gosh. Absolute monster. So where do we put them then? Uh, what kind of dude is he? What kind of dude is a freak, a dog, a whiz or a dude's dude?

I mean, he's kind of a dude's dude. I think so. He's a stud. So he's so positive. Like people don't. But you understand either. He's a freak, bro. This guy is so strong pound for pound. He might be the strongest guy on the team. He's got that weird leverage.

I think he does like that lifts like 500 plus pounds. From what I hear, I never worked out with him, but he's mentally he's got dog, you know, but I'm leaning towards dudes, dude. He is a dude, dude. I got to go with that because he's a locker room guy. Locker room guy. Positive energy. Come cool collect always. I've never seen a bad mic'd up on him.

No, I never have, man. That I've yelled at referees and I've never seen a bad miked up on him now. I never have man Now I've yelled at referees and I've swore like he's just like always like I actually envy his energy I I want his energy. Oh wait timeout Wow. We forgot his picture as well Jules I blame that on you I blame that on you Jules cuz you were the veteran with the pitchers on the very first show That's my bad, And that was my first time I need to be reminded the picture is so kid you forgot But there he is everyone there He is that picture just exemplifies him that explains him totally tongue-out having a good old time smiling with his tongue out

You know how you know how hard that is to do wrestling hair. It's all greasy Hasn't showered in a week just has dudes all over him from the last practice. Swaggy sneaker. Yeah. I mean, that oh man, George kiddo that was a dude. Dude. He's a dude. He is on the field off the field. Let's get into our next dude. We'll be right back after this quick break. Quick break. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this, start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.

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All right, who's the next dude? You have your little AI ready, this guy. Hold on, Jules, my girlfriend's texting me. You know, I gotta answer. I wanna be a good dude, okay? He's a good dude. I'm a good dude. Say hello to Camille.

I said hello. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh, guess what she's doing? What? So it's a 10 year anniversary for the Super Bowl that we won versus Seattle Seahawks. You know who we're doing right now next? Oh my gosh, who are we doing next?

We're doing Seattle. Wow. And guess what Camille just texted me. Richard Sher Richard Sherman that she's literally crying right now while practicing because she misses dance so much because They're bringing back the cheerleaders do a halftime dance routine that they did at the Super Bowl Wow. Yes. Yeah Sorry, Richard Sherman. You're not a back-to-back champ because of us. Sorry boy. Are you mad about it? Is he mad? He's mad, bro. He's not mad. Is he mad, bro? No, but is he mad?

What is he saying about our guy? Alan Iverson, smart man. He can just read a frickin everything on the Internet in a matter of 10 seconds. I always knew AI was the best of all time. He's the answer. He is the answer. Let's get on Richard Sherman. Wow. He was so good that he covers this whole page. He is the answer. Let's get on Richard Sherman. Wow. He was so good that he covers

this whole page. He does. He's a Stanford guy. Richard Sherman is known for being a highly skilled and physical cornerback renowned. They use this word too much in AI renowned renowned for his exceptional coverage skills, intelligence and ability to read plays. Sherman was a key figure in the Seattle Seahawks Legion of Boom Defense. His lengthy frame and aggressive playing style made him a formidable opponent in both man to man and zone coverage. Right. Formidable, Jules? We're dudes on dudes. I mean, if I say something wrong, correct me. That's what fricking good dudes do. That's what friends do. Okay. I don't know how to read either.

Sherman's leadership trash talking trash talk. He definitely tried. You mad bro and ability to make crucial plays in high pressure situations contributed. Made a lot of those. Yes, he did. Made a lot of you're just watching his highlight film, man. Whoo. I forget how good he was.

You forget. Ball skills. Let me finish. I forget how good he was. You forget all skills. Let me finish. I was just cutting me off to make crucial plays in high pressure situations contributed to his reputation as one of the top cornerbacks of his era. I agree with I agree with a Richard Sherman. We were like we watched the highlights before we did this. And you forgot how many great plays he made because that cast of characters, the Legion of Boom,

he was a part of it and there were so many good guys but then we watched those highlights, his ball skills. He used to run routes for the receiver because he was so smart. He's situationally one of the most intelligent corners. You could never throw a downfield ball against him. Like that was like what I always remember. He always, he was a gambler

because he'd always have those eyes in the backfield. Like he was one of those original guys where he'd play off and have his eyes in the backfield and then he'd break on the guy like, Richard and then he'd always have the hands. Like he had unbelievable ball skills in order to finish the plays. You know, he just was a freaking stud and he used to hit. What do you think? I would if I if I was a young cornerback, I would

give Richard Sherman a call and ask him where he learned those ball skills. How does he track down a ball like that and make it you know, and have an interception and make it look easier than a wide receiver. Well, he was a receiver in Stanford. Well, that answers my question. All you cornerbacks out there, they need to do more ball drills. I say all the time, there would be literally like two or three more interceptions per game. If these cornerbacks knew how to catch the ball and Richard Sherman knew how to catch the ball. And that's why he made so many plays. And that's why he led the league

in interceptions some years. So what year was that again? He definitely led the league, right? 2013. Yes. They won the Superbowl that year. Yeah, they did. And that's part of the reason why they won the Superbowl.

He was a literal genius of the game because he played wide receiver in college. He went to Stanford University. So because he played wide receiver in college. He went to Stanford University. So obviously he's smart. Smart guy. You gotta be a smart guy to go to Stanford. All my friends that went to Stanford. Pac-10 guy as well. So shout out to the Pac-10. 4.2 GPA in high school. 4.2 GPA? Who is he cheating off? Come on. 4.2. I thought it only goes up to 4.0. How do you get a 4.2? I think there's advanced classes that count as a 5.0.

Makes no sense. I agree. I never knew about those ones. Advanced classes? Wasn't there either, Rob. That's why we have a podcast. And that's why. Would you beat him in a math competition? I would. I'm that good at math.

Come on, give me a math problem right now. 46 times 20. Oh my gosh. Uh, 920? Yep. Oh, was it 920? Yeah, he would still be thinking. Richard Sherman would still be thinking.

He'd be talking shit. He'd be talking shit where I would have probably been thrown off my game and then he would throw out the answer. And then he would have got, that's how smart he is. Where he would have talked shit and been able to calculate, multitask, and then do it. Like that's the kind of guy he was. I remember we played against him in the Super Bowl, and we jawed back and forth.

And it's out of fun competition, but you knew like when you were stepping in a game with Richard Sherman, you knew if you were gonna be lazy, or if your route wasn't there, he was gonna cover you, and he was gonna let you know that he covered you. Those are the fun guys. He was a freaking monster. Like you watch just the interceptions he made his high pointing of ball skills that AFC Championship game where he tipped it from Crabtree in like the last like 30 seconds or 23 seconds, 32 seconds.

One of the most impressive plays I've ever seen a cornerback make. In a high pressure situation when his team needed it. That was for the game. That was to go to the Super Bowl. That was to go to the Super Bowl. He had a lot of those. And what made him so great, made him stand out from any other cornerback was his height and his length.

He was 6'4". He was kind of like Randy Moss, but as a cornerback. You know, and he had good hands, like, to combat. Great ball skills. But like to combat great ball skills, but like to combat the quick guys to get him running side and side because he was so, you know, he's long. That's how you got to get those kinds of corners. You got to make them run side to side. He had such long great arms where he could play at the line of scrimmage. He'd win at the line of scrimmage. He had football IQ. What about his physicality? Was there a play? I remember just watching him.

I think that's Brian broke off for like a 50 yard 50 yard. He was about to score and I'm pretty sure it was does Brian. And he was in back of the end zone, you know, guarding his guy. You know, man, man them up. That's why the ball went as Brian. They should have had him on that as all game, actually. He came out of back of the end zone off of his guy and literally does Brian was one yard away from scoring I have to go in Richard Sherman came out of nowhere and just laid that hit stick and made him fumble right on the one

Yard line that just showed how physical and how much he just laid his body out on the line for the for the team And also not to quit on a play like a plate could have been over He does Bryant could have easily just gone in and Richard said, you know, technically he won his play. His guy was guarded, his guy didn't catch the ball. But to come off his plaster and to make the hit at the end goal lines, it was like, you saw those plays all the time with Richard Sherman.

He never gave up on plays. He was smarter than you. He was longer than you. And he could talk better than you. And he had leadership. Like he was always vocal, very vocal. But the thing is he backed it up every single time. Uh, he always said he's the best corner in the game, which he was throughout that era, but he backed it up and that's what over read. That's what you, uh, uh, reef was a little bit before him. He was like right at the end of Revis era Revisves Island era.

So Reeves was in his own category and then it was Richard Sherman, two totally different players, two totally different skill sets. But hey, Jules, you remember when you trolled them? I do. The full Sherman, the Shermanator? Can you explain what happened and why you did it?

The parade after we played him in 14 we won Someone threw up a sign of like with the face after the interception And you know you just playing up to the parade having fun. I fucking threw it I was hammered like it was all fun and games until someone gets hurt But no one got hurt no one got and you were hammered so that's an excuse It was a parade. Anything goes. We just beat him in the Super Bowl. And Richard Sherman loves talking crap, but he can take it as well.

I think he can. I know the guy now personally. I've talked to him a few times through Chris Thompson because she does all the Amazon and he's always been a really cool day. He's doing a great job as analysts. I think so, too. He's really good. A lot of insight to the game, especially at the corner position. He's not scared to be himself.

He's never never never has been. And it was his career, you know, just with a guy like him, like you had to play hard the whole game. If you turned it off, he would smother you. He'd make that big. If he if he saw Tom just slack a little bit in the pocket, he would be able to read them just like that because he played with his eyes in the backfield. He loved like he liked to play off that Seattle six where it was like it was like a match zone so he could play off and he would see and he would

read the quarterbacks and he'd come sloop on those seams and come steal them. Last piece though, I play with Richard Sherman my final year with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Unfortunately, he you know, he was at the end of his career. He's a little washed like myself. He showed up. We had like eight corners down. We gave him a call. He showed up and I'm so glad he did, man.

And I finally, you know, got to meet him in person and talk to him. He pulled his hamstring. I remember I had broken ribs, so we were reminiscing together about facing each other. And what a great guy he was, man. Great leader, great guy to was, man. Great leader. Great guy to have in the locker room. That's for sure. He's got tons of positive energy. He's a he's a guy you love on your team, but you hate him.

Yeah, exactly. I love he was even playing. He went on the IR. And every time I walked in the locker room, like I love Sherman Ader is on our team. Yeah, that's how great he was, man. He just always chopping it up and always being a character. I love the guy. Whenever I see him to a great dude. Ten minutes, ten minutes. What kind of dude is Richard?

What kind of dude? I mean, he was he was freaky. He was like a Randy Moss. Is he a stud dog? Where is your way? He's kind of everything, man, because he went to Stanford. So he's a whiz. He was a dog with those hits. He was a system as well, because he I think he hits a whiz. He was a dog with those hits. He was as well because he I think he hits that whiz category

because his intellect was second to none like him and Revis are in that same category where they could run routes. Yeah, he kind of he was kind of a dog though, too. He was a dog because he was relentless and motivated always physically. We talked to you. I want to I kind of want to go with whiz though, just because he went to Stanford. He went to Stanford, he was clutch. The Wiz is always clutch.

The Wiz is someone who innovates. They changed the position. The position used to be a guy that was probably no bigger than six foot, six foot one. I mean, those were huge corners back before him. He was six foot four. He evolved the position, especially in that Seattle system. He had him and Browner. They love those tall corners and he's a huge part of that, which that's that's how you take away those big receivers on the outside. You put a big guy like Sherm on them and they let them battle. And that's why the Legion of Boom was such a great

defense as well. I would say that he was the leader of Legion of Boom at over Chancellor. Yeah, over Chancellor. Chancellor was the guy that laid the smackdown. He smacked. He smacked. I think, you know, he was the wizard of the Legion of Boom. Same with Errol Thomas. He he towards a rocket or torpedo. He laid the smackdown. He laid the smackdown on me a few times, but Richard Sherman was the wizard.

I feel like he got that, you know, secondary imposition. And also why he had so many interceptions and why he was such a great corner is because he knew how to play the game of football and zone coverage and man coverage because he was so fricking smart. He's a whiz. He is a whiz. He's a whiz kid. Oh, my gosh. I didn't wear any of my merch, Jules. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. I wanted to wear this Buccaneers hat, man. Dude's a good hat. That's a good hat too. See dudes forget a lot of things, man. That's why we

always love to have a bro next to each other to remind each other. And we forgot the picture as well once again. So get his picture up here. Oh my gosh. Oh, Sherm's on here. Oh, I thought that was, I thought that was George Kittle still. Nah. All right. All right. Sherm's up there. Oh my God. Oh, shrooms on here. Oh, I thought that was I thought that was George Kittle still. All right. All right. Shrooms up there. See dudes on dudes, man. I think dude, I think I think defenders just throwing out too much. Hey, we're getting things. Don't you think defensive guys with dreads are like, does that not like that looks like the predator to me, man? Like they're searching destroy that

they never intimidated intimidation it never intimidated me but I always I always I'm sure Jules it never intimidated you I just thought you're bringing it up you're bringing it up but it I always I always I always thought it looked fucking sick it does look sick you look good you look good on to our next guy's got some skinny legs I think that's what made him so athletic. Fast. Those people with skinny legs, those corners are just so fast and they never get tired. That's why I always got tired and was like,

no, Jules, you run this route. Like the ball's going to you. My legs like way too thick. He would do that. And by the way, man. I would take it too. Like as a bro, you know, as a friend, like, how am I looking?

You're looking jacked. Like I worked out this morning for this episode. Look at that. Look at that. But you never not look jacked. I know. You know how Camille never not dancing? You're looking Jack. Like I worked out this morning for this episode. Look at that. Look at me. But you never know. I know. You know how Camille never not dancing. You're never not Jack. Look at that. Look at that, baby. So I show you a six pack right now.

They see. Good guys. What's your dong away? That's a dude. You got to flex. I'm looking at that, baby. How you still got it, dude? I'm just being a dude, okay? That's all. Sit down you big old dude.

Trying to be like Dola. Dola is ripped man. Dola is like playing Patrick Swayze right now on Dancing with the Stars. Let's go vote for him. Dola more ripped than you? Yeah, he probably, he's cutter. He's cutter.

Oh, you said that. Let's get on to our next contestant. Who's our next guy? Absolute Legend. Absolute legend. Absolute legend. We'll start the clock in five seconds after I say who he is. He's just a man's man.

Our new teammate, someone that we've all looked up to. He's not a dude. He's a man. You can't call him dude. So this is dudes on man. Yeah, this is dudes on man. Howie this is dudes on how he long, how we long, how we long, we long, how we long. I say we long has a huge slum or what the heck? What the heck?

Hey, I inappropriate, inappropriate. How long would be cheese cheese? You guys are just characters. He was guys. Yeah, you guys are just characters. Always just, you know, he always tells me it up. They always he always says, just keep being you, but yeah, he would love that line. He would. He would. He would. Even if he has a small one, he'd be like, thank you.

Yeah, I don't know if he does You don't got a last name. He's got a hammer. Yeah Howie long bro talk about what he's a man. You got a chin Face he produced two huge NFL sons Huge huge like first round O Lyman first round first top 10 pick Chris long D Lyman Kyle long Oime and Kyle Long played baseball It's just a fucking They just have champion. They have champion sperm. All right, let me get to AI. They have champions

He does have championship sperm. Howie long was a dominant defense event in the NFL known for his powerful pass Rushing ability and strong run defense. He played primarily for the Oakland Raiders. Who was the second team? I thought he was an Oakland Raiders. LA Raiders. LA Raiders. Wait, then that's still the same team. AI. That's really weird. Fucking AI. Really? They're not there yet. Two different cities. He might as well have played for the fricking Las Vegas Raiders. Yeah. At this point. I mean, he's associated with them. He can still, he looks like he's still playing. He should be the Raiders owner, Raiders. Yeah. At this point, I mean, he's associated with them. He can still he looks like they need to play. He should be the Raiders owner, not Tom.

Just kidding, Tom. Yeah, we need you as a Raiders owner, because then you'll be like really rich and you can get a yacht and you and I can come on it. Yeah. Yeah. And then you can give us like cushy, like scouting jobs. Yeah. Like a million dollars a year. Yeah. We love you, Tom. Yeah, we love you. How. Yeah, we love you too.

Howie's not the owner, you're the owner, Tom. We need you, buddy. We hang out with you more, so we need you to be the owner. And maybe if we need a job in the future. That's what dudes and dudes do. If you're a bro, one dude always gives a job to their bro. That's called, I said triple D, that's called daydreaming dooding.

All right, all right. Dude daydream. We're back. We're back. Where he earned eight Pro Bowl selections and was named to the NFL's all decade team of the 1980s. 80s decade when I was born in 89. So 86. Wow. He probably sacked a guy and got our mother's pregnant from such a big hit. That was awful, awful take. But knowing how he probably not how he is stand up guy.

Yeah. Knowing how you're right. He definitely wouldn't. He goes, yeah, they, they just, our parents just got so just turned on from his sack from his sack in the eighties. That that's why we were born. It's a bone crushing sack. Yeah.

And cause my dad's a big fan. My dad is not a fan of how we long. I think our parents, our dads got so turned on from how he longs hits. That they made us, we were created. They made us very well could be this is when how he was balling long was known for his athleticism intensity and versatility which allowed him to excel both in rushing the passer defending against the run his impact on the game and his leadership on and off the field

solidified his reputation as one of the premier defensive players of his era. I mean, we threw on the highlights. He's just nasty. He's like the guy you send in. He's like a bomb squad guy. You know, you send how we but he doesn't wear armor. He just goes in and does it with like teeth, you know, like you send him in there and he'll do it like some shit that no one wants to do

He'll get the job done. He's so intense. He was like and you can see it when he played he So powerful he knew the game of football. He was a really smart football player He looked the part of a Raider with the bull ring He was like one of the original dudes that wore the bull ring Like that was like hardnosed any kid in pop Warner when I was a kid that wore a bull ring was like that did eat cement. And that's what fucking how I think I literally saw him at Fox once in between games that you guys were doing.

I saw him take a teaspoon of cement when he with his with his coffee. Like, that's how manly he is. This guy, if you're going in a back alley and you're about the brawl, you're about to take on 10 other mother F'ers. Yeah. And you're by yourself and you had to choose one other guy to go in that back alley. You bring how we long with you. And then guess what? You would just sit back because he would take on all ton of those guys and f*****g whoop all their a**es for you.

But then I think afterwards he would sit them down and tell them where they they they need to work on their fighting skills. And like he would sit there after like, you know, given them like a a rag for the nose that he just broke from some dude. Like he would sit there and he'd be like, yeah, buddy, like, yeah, you got to be smarter than that. You can't go against, you know, wall, like looking at his surroundings. I remember the first day I met him on on on Fox. You know, he saw we had a dinner like the Friday before, and it's my first show.

And I'm a little nervous. And so I had a dip in at the dinner and I thought no one saw. I had a little baby dip in two days later. We had our first live show and how he was in there. And we had a production meeting where we were with the big show, the other show. And, and all of a sudden how he came in and didn't say a word. Pulled out a 10, put it right on my thing, put one finger and just slid it to me and give me a head nod and just walked by.

That was the first interaction I ever had with him. And it couldn't have been any more how he loaned. He might be one of the greatest guys I've ever met. And I don't think it's talked about enough is that he might be the best role model, you know, out there. Yeah. NFL history. I mean, the guys there, the guys been through it all. He grew up in Charlestown, Massachusetts. He's an orphan. Yes.

So, you know, he's an orphan. He's like he's like the movies. He's got that, you know, that Boston Harto in him. Harto takes no shit at all. But let me tell you, then he goes to Philly at Philanova. Yeah. And gets a little that more East Coast assy asshole in this all American man. He has great kids. Great kids.

They grew up to be first round NFL players. Do you remember Chris? I remember Chris, man, great guy. Loved him in the locker room. Loved him in the locker room. He'd always be holding court in his little section with Ninkovic. Like him and Ninko would be sitting there.

Ninko would just be sitting there like marveling at Chris because Chris was like so paid and had a sleeve and he was a white dude that had swag. Ninko would just do anything, you remember those? Ninko copied everything Chris Long did. He was Chris Long's shadow. Everything. Because by that age,

Nico has been institutionalized by the Patriots, where any outsider, he's like, oh my God, this is what it's like. If you had a problem or situation in life and you needed an answer, you would hit up Howie Long. 100%. The guy's been through everything, from A through Z in life and you needed an answer, you would hit up Howie Long. 100%. The guy has been through everything

from A through Z in life. Just a great role model overall, very positive guy. When it comes to crunch time, he's right there on your side. Has taken me under his wing at Fox. His knowledge for the game of football is through the roof. If you have any questions, he's there to give you answers. And then he doesn't care if you give him the credit or not. And he's fucking great looking too.

Look at how jacked he is in that goddamn movie. Still looks the fricking same as he did when he was playing. I wanna say he's got top three chins all time. Top three chins. Cowards one, Coach Coward, Howie, Brady's got a nice chin. But like, this is like man, like Brady's like pretty chin. I never looked at this is like this is like when you used to draw up like old. I never looked at

action heroes. I never looked at 80s and 90s. You know how they they were just big grown men with huge chin like the car. I don't look at chins. Look at the like that's just a man. Yeah, that's a mansion. You're right. And he had the best flat like, that's just a man. Yeah, that's a man chin, you're right. And he had the best flat top ever, he still has it. What about that neck roll that he played with? Does that neck roll make you more badass? It kind of reminds me of James Devlin. Like, he was more badass when he had the neck roll on.

Neck rolls definitely give you two points on hard assness. Two points for sure. Who else do we have? Eric Dickerson had a good chin. The all chin team. No, not the chin. He had a neck roll. What about Brian Bosworth?

What about his neck roll? Neck roll crew. That was pretty badass. Tom Rathmann. What about Mike Allstott? Fucking gnarly. Ultimate neck roll. Ultimate player.

What about Kent State Golden Flash Jack Lambert? Ooh. I think he's a bunker guy. I think he's in a bunker right now. I don't even know what Kent State is. No, I've tried to get in contact. What's Kent State? They call it, some would call it the Harvard of the Midwest.

You're, Kk, kk, kk, kk, kk. I don't know, have you ever heard of it? But yeah, neck rolls, Howie Longstreet, huge part of that like old school guy that had neck roll, made you look tough. And he's Hollywood, he's been in movies, like his story about like he stopped doing movies

because it just was too much. He told me that he's like, yeah, you know, I had to get, I just needed more time with my family. He's, they kept on sending me scripts. Yeah, I was like, man, Howie's so cool. He's like, fuck them. Fuck that. He's a great family man.

And that's why I said, if you have any questions about life, you ask Howie Long. And he, so cool. He's like, fuck them. Fuck that. He's a great family man. And that's why I said, if you have any questions about life, you ask how we long and he and he has the right answer every time. He really does. In any situation, what kind of dude is how long? Well, he's a loyal dude as well. I mean, he's the first one. He started the Fox gig with Terry Bradshaw and Jimmy Johnson. He's been there for 31 years now.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Fox pregame show. And it's just an honor to just to be, just to be a part of it. Yeah. A little ounce of it, just to be with those guys. I mean, it's incredible. Dude, without a doubt, it makes-

What they have done. They transcended post-career after NFL. 100%. They've given an example of how, if you want to get into this industry how you got to do it, you know, it was not just their on camera chemistry, but the way they freaking prepare. I get to be a fly on the wall watching them in between shows watching you get ready. And those guys are just he's just a stud. And exactly what I just said, he's a stud.

He's a freak. Yes, he's a freak of nature. He's got the dog in him. He's definitely a dude's dude. He is a dude's dude. But when locker room guy, he's a wizard as well. I mean, this guy literally is all five categories. And that's why he's so successful in life. What do they do with the, the, the Kentucky Derby

race horse come? What do they do? What do they call them? They stud them out. They stud them out. That's what fucking Howie Long is. He's a stud. Like he, when you look at a racehorse. And it was a proven stud too, cause he produced two first rounders. Two first rounders. Like when you look at a stud, a horse, how is the human version of a racehorse? A. I even knew he had a huge slong. Did you hear me read it at the beginning? Howie long has a huge slong.

They didn't really say that. Yeah. It really said that. That's crazy. I think he could, I think he literally could probably win the Kentucky Derby. He could. Because that's how manly of a man he is. When you call his son and talk to him on the phone, Chris, what did he say about

how he said he's a stud Chris said he's a fucking stud. So he's a stud. Stud. No doubt about it. Stamp it, stud. Stamp stud. Stud muffin. Our first stud.

Oh, Tony Gonzalez was a stud. Was Tony a stud too? Yeah, different type of stud. Different stud. This was like a bad ass stud. Tony's like a smooth stud. Yeah. Yeah, but both studs.

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