Games with Names - Dudes on Jason Kelce & Darrelle Revis

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

Gronk & Jules are back in the studio talking about two legendary dudes. First, we're getting on future Hall of Famer and Eagles legend, Jason Kelce. Next, we got one of the greatest cornerbacks of all time and Hall Famer, Darrelle Revis. We wrap it up by answering some voicemails in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dude, it's flying by like no other. I mean, it's already like the holidays. We got Thanksgiving. That's already, you know, been, bent through us. We got Christmas coming up. We got Hanukkah coming up, man. It's football season. Football season brings everyone together and it makes a year go by so fast.

It makes it fly by. And it's been really cool to see in the comment section from everyone that's been following the highly requested people that they were requesting. Well, who are they requesting, Jules? Well, we're going to have to keep that a secret. That's called a teaser right there. Like a secret Santa? Like a secret Santa.

Did you ever play Secret Santa? I play every year. In the locker room? I never did in the locker room. Actually, one time, when Martellas Bennett was there, we played Secret Santa. Yeah. What did you guys get each other? Yes.

Actually, I did it in Tampa as well. And it was not Secret Santa, though. It was kind of like your turn to pick a gift, and then you could steal someone else's gift. I'm not sure exactly what that game is called. It's kind of like Secret Santa a little bit. But I brought in the newest PlayStation. Yeah.

Yes. I forgot what I brought in. I think I brought in, like, I don't know what I We used to do them every year But you forget I didn't get anything crazy either I think Gunner got me something one year

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To your neighbor or something If they do a favor for you So like wine goes so far Whenever you get a gift that's a bottle of wine even if you're not going to drink it always take it because you can always re-gift it 1,000% like and we used to I think we used to set money limits because you didn't want like the highest pay guy in the room getting something sick and then a guy that's you know a practice squad because we'd play with everyone yeah so I think we would keep it like relatively tame yeah very reasonable 250 bucks yeah it was always you had to be thoughtful it was harder exactly it was always between 250 and 500 well let's get into these guys that everyone's been requesting let's get into it yeah let's do it what's a i have to say about the first guest rob e g well it's time for this week's dude segment jules presented by dude wipes all right today oh yeah i got this okay this is dude i'm a dude i like to wipe my wipe them dudes wipe my bomb i'm a tight end all right i keep it nice and

clean and today jules we are going to be breaking down a dude that just might end up in the hall of fame one day well who could it be Well, let's see what AI has to say about him And then we can figure it out from there Let's see All right You say it could be I think he's in

Oh, well, who do you even know We're talking about? I don't know Oh, you got the picture frame right in front of you All right, you're ahead of the game They don't All right, born and raised In Cleveland Heights, Ohio

This senator played college football At the University of Cincinnati Before spending his entire NFL career With the Philadelphia Eagles He earned six first team All-Pro selections seven Pro Bowls and help bring the Eagles their first Super Bowl title. Off the field, he is an NFL analyst and podcaster.

Let's get on Jason Kelsey. Jason Kelsey. Hey, hey, Jules. What's the first thing you think of when you hear the name Jason Kelsey? Revolutionary. He made, he's been like the most, like, you know, this could be recency bias, but he's made the lineman like really commercial

you know kind of like how you made tight ends and like the fun being he's kind of did that whole thing for the offense aligned he's not only just an unbelievable football players his stats show that but he surpassed being a football player with him and his brother and New Heights and their podcast

and he's become something that like it's just been fun to watch yeah he elevated linemen to a whole new level. Whole new level. And Lyman never get that much credit. Even though they could be the best possible linemen or best linemen of all time,

and they still don't really get featured. And Jason Kelsey brought that position, especially the center position. Like, left tackles get way more fame and way more recognition than a center. And money. Guards get way more recognition than a center. We're talking about the heart and soul of the line

that never gets talked about unless if they mess up. And Jason Kalson, has taken this position to a whole other level, like you said, to where it's now materialized, where people want to be a center, where people want to talk about, you know, being in alignment and how cool it is, because that's what he has done for the position. And what he has really shown as well, you know, at this position is how smart you got to be, of how smart of a football player you got to be to snap that ball, know where you got to go, make calls for the quarterback,

know where the linebackers are, know where the mic is at all time, get your other alignment, You're in control. You're the second quarterback on the field, you know, after the quarterback. You're making sure the guy knows where to go, where to tackle is where to go, all the right calls, making sure everyone lines up properly. Oh, yeah, Jules, don't forget your dudes have because this segment is presented by dude wipes. You try this one. Hey, I'll try that one. And guess who definitely needs a dude wipe before every game.

Obviously, Jason Kelsey, because he has to keep his bum nice and clean for the quarterback to get under center so he can hike the ball. So we know that for a fact that he has a clean bum. Yes, yes. And he's got to use dude wipes. I mean, he has to. 1,000% and he's like watching him play. I've never seen so many centers pool than I've seen Jason Kelsey. Like I just always remember you see Jason Kelsey pool, go down, make an athletic play in the second level, blocking linebackers that are faster than him.

blocking corners, safeties that are faster than him. And he always hit his target, it felt like. Like he made those plays go, those quarterback runs, the running game, like for, for Philly. They've been just, he's a dynamic player. And you're talking about, he's a dynamic player. He sure is. And you're talking about the way he pulls on how much they use them, you know, in that, in that, you know, rem of being a player, you know, as a polling center.

well what I recognize is obviously is athleticism you got to have athleticism to do that but also how I recognize how he goes upon blocking the defender blocking the defensive end to kick him out how he gets up to the next level to block a linebacker what he does is is kind of like teach tape in the NFL you know coaches probably use his highlight film that teach the guys they're coming up out of college and how to block properly how he just runs his feet through the block it's kind of like he's going up to tackle someone with no fear how do you knock someone off their feet that's carrying the ball while you got to run through that tackle because if you kind of stop and you know throw your shoulder into it hey you're going to bounce right off of the ball carrier while jason kelsey runs up to the linebacker defense and he runs through it there's zero hesitation and i was watching that just now on on his highlight film of all his you know of all his superior blocks and you just like it looks like he's making a tackle with no fear and that's why he dominates fools because he didn't have that fear and he always ran through and that's how I was taught actually as a rookie

when I had coach Brian Ferrence you know he's now at Iowa obviously the son of the head coach Ferrence you know who's the head coach at Iowa and they only know how to run the ball like they don't only know how to run the ball but they specialize in the run game and Brian Ferrence always said run through it never stop your feet and then you can tell that Jason Kelsey does that as well as a blocker I still can't believe he was a six round draft pick I mean, is he the greatest six-round draft pick of all time? I don't. All right.

Let me rephrase that. Is he the, okay, I know. We got our guy, Tom, was a, is he better than Tom, though? I mean, he's better, he's got a better bum than Tom because he's always got a better man bun. Yeah. Remember you used to have the man bun? He's got a better facial features as well. Man.

Yeah. Tom wishes he had that beard and stash. He's very manly. Yeah, he is. He's a very masculine man. Let me rephrase that, but is he the best six-round offense alignment of all the time? And we're talking tackles, guards, and centers. Who else?

There's, you know. Is he the best six-rounder that's not a quarterback named Tom Brady? He, I mean. He could be. He could be. Antonio Brown was a six-rounder. Trial Davis was. Freaking.

I mean, Adelius Thomas. Oh, this is tough. I'm going to say, I'm going to probably say. He's up there. he's up there no doubt because how can you even grade like who's a better player overall and who had a better career when you're a lineman compared to like a skill guy that's really really tough so i would say he's the best sixth round lineman of all times is that accurate he's i mean he's up there i don't know i don't want to get caught into the like well this guy was a six

he is you know he's going to be a whole favorite i want you to get caught up in it that's why i'm asking you he's the best six round lineman of all time yes hey there's this one guy that we just don't know of joel was that was really good too like in the 80s well that's the crazy thing there's not be a big argument out there all right uh his scouting report he was undersized that's what they said that's why he didn't go he ran 498 or 493 he had an insane 10-yard split shuttle the 20-yard shuttle was great his vert he was explosive he just wasn't what how how how tall is he 6162 he's a center yeah he's they're saying he's undersized but i i don't really you know think that he is i i kind of got to argue versus that because maybe early in his career

more leverage you get more leverage when you're lowered to the ground and he's a center as well his pad levels through the roof as long he's compact you know that weight still being that height only then he's fine and i believe that's why he was such a great player because of that i mean i hated blocking guys that were 6-2-6-1 because they always got under my pads i couldn't i had the disadvantage because i was too tall and then they always pushed me backwards but uh like his like this the way he compacts his body and can just fly up underneath the pads of a of a taller guy a bigger defense alignment uh i i feel like he used it to his advantage and he's so smart that he found a way to use his size to his advantage as well i remember uh one of the super bowl's i met mrs kelsey

Really? What Super Bowl was this? The Kelsey Bowl when they played each other. Oh, okay. Who was she rooting for? Well, she had the split jersey. Yeah, but she had to be rooting for one of them, like at least one or two percent more. Did you get out of her?

I couldn't get any out of her. I just... Dang, I thought you had the magic touch, Jules. Didn't have that magic touch. I have no game. But I was asking her, I was like, man, it's crazy. She birthed these two insane players that are going to be playing against each other

on the grandest stage. and it's been it was really fun to watch her get her pub during that whole Kelsey Bowl and like these Kelsey guys man they're they're they're really athletic if you watch them like you can't it's crazy that one's an offensive lineman one is a tight end that's like smooth and rhythmic but if you look at it they're in sync with how their bodies work and how their athletic abilities are it's just one has a different intangibles inside size difference than the other one. But the way they dance, like you saw Jason dancing

in the end zone for some celebrations. He can move those hips. They could. They both have loose hips. They got rhythm. I mean, they're parents. Mama Kelsey got to have some loose hips out there because how do they have loose hips and they lift and all that stuff and they're strong?

Usually your hips tighten up, but they can move. I would say Mama Kelsey and Mama Gronk are up there in Mount Rushmore of moms for NFL guys, multiple NFL guys. I would say so too Probably the Matthews There's a Matthews mom in there McCordy's The McCordy moms

I mean there's a bunch of The Harbaugh mom Oh the Harbaugh moms They just poop out football players Yes Man he also I mean He's part of one of the most

Dominating plays in recent history With the Tush Push And I firmly believed It was because of his get-off and his push and his pad level and how he got down. I mean, they were able to transition with Jurgensen and still have that success,

but it hasn't been as of late the same success rate as when Jason Kelsey was there. No doubt about that. And what really stands out to me is just how smart of a player, you know, he was and still is. I mean, look where he has gone from putting, we talked about an offensive alignment on the map now. And that's not because of just the way that he played, you know.

it's because of his post career as well. You know, he's on... And during his career. During his career, definitely. And now he's a center stage of a big Monday night football games, breaking down the game of football. You know, you just can't do that, you know, because you just play.

You've got to have the smartness and awareness, and that's what he had throughout his whole career. Hosting a podcast. They got one of the greatest podcasts, actually, probably the greatest sports podcast of all time. And he's the anchor of it. He's the one who's firing off questions, hyping you up when I was on it.

it was kind of the first time I had a conversation with Jason I was literally like man you know Travis's brother I mean that's how I kind of looked at him at the moment I don't call him Travis's brother anymore because he's he's gone yeah exactly but he's gone he's the respect factor is way higher than that now it's Jason now and I was literally like I got off and I was like yo Jason Kelsey brings that heat y'all he like he's got he's got good tangibles of being on the podcast and firing out questions that need to be fired out for the way that he wants to answer to. So you see why, you know, he's so successful as well. Deep down, I think that Lyman could be the most intelligent guys on the team other than maybe

the quarterback, but maybe even in that category. We've always had, like, some of the smartest guys that we played with were always offensive linemen guys because they got to handle so much adversity, you know, the techniques, this, communication with each. Like, they're, and they're always in their own little bubble. And they all, like, have, like, interesting hobby. And I'm sure he has interesting hobbies. And they're all, and they're all, I feel like all linemen, they're kind of all quiet. Offens alignment are more quiet. But if you get under their skin and tick them off, watch out.

You better start running full speed the other way because if they get a whole of you, oh, you're done for. Yeah, I mean, he's been on everything. When he came out, what was he the genie on the Super Bowl parade? Was the genie outfit? That's when I first got a look of him and, like, knew who he was. And, you know, he was bawling before that, but that's when his personality, like, was just starting to get across America, I guess. He seems like a great hang.

And, I mean, I did the New Heights podcast, too, and it's, and it felt like he was a great hang. Him in and Travis, it was, it's been very fun. He released a freaking Christmas album. And I think it got bought a lot. Like, he's very entrepreneur. very smart very very baller

like he's a baller on the field yes he and the old lineman released a Christmas album the Philly specials Jordan Malada Lane Johnson all involved released albums three years in a row and they even collabed with Stevie Nix on a song raised 4.5 million dollars for local Philly charities

with the album sales. What a stud? Definitely a star. What do you think is his cleanest moment in his career? I would say that's probably one of them because this segment is brought to you by dude wipes. So you got to stay clean when you got dude wipes involved. So would you say this is one of Jason Kelsey's cleanest moments? Definitely, probably raising $4.5 million through Christmas album for the kids of Philly.

Let's hear it real quick. Look at me all your Christmas has been right He can sing This is getting me into the holiday spirit They can all sing Jules, this is making me like want to start a band, brother. But too bad we don't got voices like that. No, not like that.

That was impressive, man. That was the first time I've heard that. That was a clean moment. I would do that every, I would drop an album every year. Actually, if I could sing, I'd drop an album every month, but I can't sing, so I ain't time no album well that was his cleanest moment off the field what would you say his cleanest moment on the field is jewels it's got to be i mean i just always see him pulling and blowing up dudes is is jason kelsey first ballot hall of fame i mean i think he's a hall of famer i mean you're

talking about one of the greatest centers of all time how can he not be a hall of favor in our era i would say it was him and alex mac yes that were like the two dudes that you knew about yes Alex Mac with the flexibility But it was both because of how athletic they were They could always get to the second level And they're all smart guys So I think he's first ballot I mean he invented a play that you can't not talk about

In the history of the game Him and his comrades The Tush Push He's got to This is gonna be a he's gonna ban this thing next year He's a Hall of Famer He's a Hall of Famer He's a Hall of Famer

I mean I don't know how it works So I don't know how to decided if you're first ballot or what well he's a hall of favor he's a hall of favor that's for sure what do you think he and Travis were like growing up oh maniacs i would say it's kind of probably like my brothers and i like just sports all over the place all our friends over backyard baseball backyard football shooting hoops you know in the front yard as well in the driveway and and and then just yowling at mama kelsey like mama when's dinner done now who in a fight the Kelsey's the gronks.

Oh, that's a great question. But I think it's the gronks because there's five of us and only two of them. So advantage gronks. What if they said you could only, you could only bring in one? What do you mean? You can only bring in one of the other gronks to do tag team duos. Oh, I would bring in Papa Gronk back in the day. He used to just brawl every night in the bars.

Yep, back in that heyday when, you know, brawls were allowed. I could only imagine. All right. Let's see what kind of dude. Jason Kelsey is. Boy, well, you know, he's got the athleticism of a stud. You know, you wouldn't call him a freak. At least the scouts wouldn't coming out for the draft.

Unless if he was like, you know, extremely jacked and like had a six-pack. That would be freaky. He's got that, he's got that belly, that strong belly. He's got that strong belly, though. You could tell. He's got some dog in him for sure. Oh, definitely. He's relentless, just a lot of, you know, motivation as well.

that he brings to the table he's got them all he does he really but he decides well in that category of being a freak you got to like look like a freak yeah look like arms just so jacked having a six back so i would say he's freaky in in some ways but not the freak that we're talking about like how we categorize what being a freak is on three what do you think one two three whiz oh well that's kind of like the same thing jules i mean you got to be a whiz to be a dude's dude well not necessarily but he is a whiz come on now like i said you got to get all the line incorrect, but... On three, one, two, three.

Dude, dude. You know, I think he's a dude's dude because he always, you were saying it before we got on the camera, he always has positive energy whenever he's leading. You know, you could tell in the locker room he got along with everyone.

You know, he brings the joy of the game in the locker room when he dressed up like the genie and all the miced-up stuff. He just seemed like he got along with everyone, in there he was a glue guy for that team yep and it wasn't just like positivity that he was trying to bring to the table you could tell it was just so natural for him genuine and it was genuine it was just natural for him to dress up like the genie you know it's just natural for him to do uh stunts and gimmicks and it's not like their gimmicks just to do them like their gimmicks because it's like

you could tell he has passion behind it and it brings the happiness to the people around him so that's just being a dude's dude and sacrifice he's not even really sacrificing because you could he's loving what he's doing and you got to appreciate that and the stuff he when he does lead and he does have that positive juice like it's real knowledge as well that he's bringing to the table he's he's one of a kind he is well that was the dude segment presented by dude wipes best clean pants down we'll be right back after this quick break if a Lenovo gaming computer is on your holiday list don't shop around just go directly to the source lenovo dot com it's your last chance to score exclusive deals on the gaming PCs you want, like the Lenovo Legion Tower 5 Gen 10 gaming desktop and Lenovo Locke gaming laptop. So avoid all that shopping chaos and price comparing and just go directly to the source, Lenovo.com, where PCs are up to 35% off. That's Lenovo.com. Hey, what's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. If you love breaking

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or wherever you're listening now. let's get on to our next dude oh this is interesting what's a i got to say about this guy let's see what a i has to say about dude number two all right hailing from aliquippa pennsylvania this hall of fame cornerback starred for the pit panthers before dominating the NFL for 11 seasons oh i know someone else that played in the NFL for 11 seasons oh myself jules yeah you played 12 You're above us. He was a four-time first-team all-pro, seven-time pro-bowler, and Super Bowl champ.

He was known for his physicality, football IQ, and elite preparation. Throughout his career, he was known for putting the NFL's best receivers on an island. Let's get on, Dorel Revis Island. Ladies and gentlemen, Jules, what's the first thing you think of when you hear to name Derell

Revis. The best, he's the best man-on-man corner that I played against, like where you could say you have this guy all game, go cover him. That's a great point because a lot of great cornerbacks right now, they still don't, you know, go across the field with the number one wide receiver. I mean, they're great, great cornerbacks, and then they just stay on one side of the field, maybe go into the slot a little bit when the number one goes in the slap.

But you don't see any corner do it the way that. Revis did. Like if the number one guy would motion across the field, well, guess what? Daryl Revis is motioning across the field and running across the field as well. He is the first one to truly be able to do that at, you know, at an efficient level throughout the whole entire game as well. You know, and I don't like saying that like it's one guy that helps bring us over the top for us to go out and win Super Bowls. But he was a huge reason for our defense. When they brought him over to our defense, our defense, him and browner and all the additions along with mccordy and and hi and jamie but like when he came our defense became a completely different defense because they could scheme up and do all these different things and just say hey darrell you have that guy and then we're going to do all this other stuff or when we put him on the two and then we double the one like you know what i mean it was just like a completely different defense i mean he's a defense of corny his best friend i mean it makes scheming that much easier because it's not like all right we got this type of talent with Darrell. We're going to use them in this situation, and then we're going to have the guys work around them and, you know, and fit in and, you know, cross over here. No, it's Darrow Revis has this guy man to man the whole entire game. It's as easy as that. And also that one thing

that came in my head was how smart he was. Because I remember we used to, you know, we do our two minute drills after, like when we practice, when I got to practice against Dorel, it made me a way better player. And I would always ask him if he, you know, may have covered me or if I got him, why did I get you? Why did you cover me? And he, you know, he would go like, he would say, dude, it's, it's third and seven. And you guys ran this concept like five times last week. Like he had like photographic memory of like situational football, which you always hear, you know, when you watch highlights of him, man, he was covering the route for that guy. Well, he would actually cover the route for the guy because he knew

situationally how the defense was playing conceptually. Like that's how smart he was. He was always on balance. He was 5.11, 198 pounds. So he wasn't like a tall, tall corner, but he was kind of like a tweener guy where he had really long arms, but he had shorter legs. So he was always on balance. You never saw Dorel Rivas off balance.

And he had such a strong offhand or he had strong hands. So he had like long guy. arms. Good bump and run, a good stab. Yes, he had a great stab. He had those like big, big guy arms, but he had like still kind of like quick balancing kind of legs because he was only 5-11. Like he was really strong every time at the line of scrimmage and he was patient. He was always very patient at the line of scrimmage or he'd let you do all your bullshit and he would just sit there and wait and step when you step there and then he would put his hand on you. Like he was just, he was technically sound always even when he was older like and he lost his speed he could still

be productive because he was so smart incredible football IQ he was physical competitive great practice habits as well good size for a corner not always great yes not always great what do you mean not not not not great practice happens I would say at the beginning if you were out if if you were to get reeve on a route he would like all right I got him like he would let you win the out. I would say early on in his career, he had to have great practice habits. That's how you become a smart player. You've got to see every situation and how you see every situation as a player is through practice as well, not just games. And then also he's got great vision though. Vision will insane. He lived in the film room. And what you were talking about is like how you,

how you just do all your pity pattering, you're jabbing and all that. And he just stays still and patient. Yeah. Like that's when you know that's a great defensive player in front of you. You're like you're trying to make all your moves and they're just not falling for it like you can't get open versus those guys because they only react when they truly need to react you know in that coverage situation so and that's what dera rivas did like you can be running at him and he's just so patient and still and he'll only flinch when he needs a flinch to cover you you know but you can't just be patient at the line of scrimmage like some guys try to be patient then you run by him and I mean you still got to be yeah no no no he was patient he was patient you couldn't run by him but you

He didn't run by him because he was always on balance. He was never off balance. And that's like, that's how you get open at releasing guys or at tops or outs. You get on their toes. You balance them out. Like, he just, he was a force, man. He's definitely, I think, a Mount Rushmore of corner. Oh, there's no doubt he's of Mount Rushmore, you know, of the cornerback position.

Who are the other ones? You got Dural Revis. Who else would you say would be on it, you know, for corners? Ties in there. Yeah. Dion's in there. Yeah, you got up. There you go.

Dion. Tylo. No doubt about that. Tylo for his physicality and how he played. Yes. No question about that. There's a bunch of guys in the past. And then we'll just put the fourth for the, you know, the viewers to argue who's the fourth on the Mount Rushmore.

Yeah, they're definitely going to kill us. Say like that. Oh, you guys just picked a guy that was out your franchise. No, no. And Dion Sanders, because he's like the most popular guy. Dude, go watch Deon Sanders. You're going to say, oh, yeah. There ain't no corner.

D.on Zerl Green. I used to love Daryl Green with the formerly Redskins now commanders. Man, Charles Woodson's up there. I mean, C. Wood, but he played everything, too. Durale made me a better player as well because when I was coming off of my injury,

I was coming off my knee surgery and we brought him into the organization. So, like, he would shadow me because I was trying to come back and he wanted a little extra work and he wanted an extra work like, oh, right, you know, he doesn't see a guy that's six, six, two 60 all the time so uh every single day in training camp he would come down and i'd be doing one on one by myself just to get me back you know into the rhythm of practice because i didn't really

practice that training camp because like i said i was coming off of a knee surgery um that when i blew out my knee that year and i was only like eight months at the time so we would go one on one and he would shadow me you know every single day throughout training camp and you know i take credit that hopefully i made him a better player because Because of it, it wasn't like I was full, full speed yet. I was 80, 90%, but, like, just to have a guy, like, throughout Revis being able to shadow me and help build my confidence back up, man. He was a tremendous teammate for that as well.

Like, it was like, all right, you got to go cover a gron. He's doing one-on-ones over that. He'd never complain, and he always came over, and we made each other better players. You know, he was a quieter dude. Yeah, he definitely was. But when he spoke, you listened. Oh, no doubt. Because, you know, I'm kind of convinced he may have been a computer, just because he probably,

he probably wanted to see your body movement so he could take a picture of it in his mind for guys like that he could just like terminate or put in his mindset all right this guy semi like well not like gronk but body type of gronk let me see how he released boom bing bang bang dang ping pong that's grank oh got his movements down i can cover him but i mean i i when when you play like i remember when he was a jet you hated him but like you said when he came over i tried to use him as much as I could because he was such a tool of how smart he was and like practice just all he's seen so many guys because he always played against the one you know what I mean so you wanted to do you wanted to know what Revis thought when you were practiced against him because he was the guy that knew and he was

the guy that had the reps and he was the guy that was literally people were drawing islands like this is Revis. I, like, he's an island. That's crazy. And it's one thing that hits me is how crazy the University of, or Pitt, they got some amazing alumni. They got Dan Marino, Larry Fitzgerald, Lechon McCoy, Aaron Donald, Tony Dorset. And then, and then you're talking about the University of Pat. Joe's, remember, I went to high school my senior year in Pittsburgh, Woodland Hills. And those guys you just named also were products. Most of those guys were products of Western Pennsylvania football as well. I'm telling you, Western Pennsylvania, I said this before,

is one of the most low-key best high school football out there in the country. It ranks with, you know, I'm talking Florida teams, Florida communities. I think Joe Montana's from West PA. It ranks to, you know, the Texas high school programs that you see, California programs you see. And Ohio is low-key as well. We were just speaking about Kelsey and how he's from Cleveland, Ohio. They got great football as well. That's mean and green and gritty and put your hand down in the dirt and get dirty with it.

But you got, what, Aliquippa? That's like one of the rivals for Woodland Hills. You got Aaron Donald who went to Penn. Penn is like five minutes from Woodland Hills. You got Dan Marino who went to Central Catholic. That was one of our rivals as well when I was at Wooden Hills. Tila, Aliqua. He's from there, Joe Montana, Johnny Unitas, Joe Nameth.

I mean, you got Lashai McCoy. West Pitt? He's not Western Pennsylvania. But he's still Pennsylvania football. He was like central Pennsylvania. I mean, it's unbelievable just the product and the Curtis Martin and the dudes that Pennsylvania football produces high school and university. Hall of Famers. Hall of Famers all over the place.

Now, we talk about, you know, and that's one of the arguments in the locker room all the time, you know, like when you're with all the guys, oh, California guys think California's got the best. The Louisiana guys think the Louisiana, the Texas, the Florida's, the Pittsburgh. the Ohio's you know it those are always such fun but like when you look at their list those are always fun debates those are fun telling you i think western pennsylvania it may be number one a low key number one hey at one point when i was in the NFL we had 11 guys from my just just from my high school in the NFL once it was the most of any high school in the nation wow yeah yeah exactly wow geez is right and here's the thing another thing about darrell rivas because like no one ever thinks this situation. You got to think about it too because it's a situation I could never see you doing

as well. This guy was a Patriots rival like on the New York Jets. This kind of just shows what a Jets organization is, is that he was the face of the organization. And as a player like that, you usually never want to jump ship and end up at your rival. Like it just would feel weird. Well, obviously it didn't feel weird while he had the little St. Tampa first, which kind of broke it up, which would probably helped for his decision to come to New England like oh you know I'm a jet but like I was just in Tampa so they kind of forgot about it but just shows like where the organization's at where he was totally fine to be like all right it's time to go back in that division where I was a superstar and had Revis Island going you know for myself and I'm going to go with with the New England

Patriots and try to win a Super Bowl now like we would have never ever thought that in my life like when I went down to Tampa Bay I was like I will never go to a rival of the New England Patriots And that's why I was so satisfied going to Tampa because I was like, hey, no one's arrived to Tampa Bay at this time. Yo, Reeve was almost one of the first guys that started hitting off with those short contracts where he would hit you for a couple, two years,

and then he would leave. He didn't give a fun. Smart man, he made money. He was funny, man. I remember he didn't care. No, he didn't. You got to love that. He was the first to show that.

He's a symbol. Yeah, he's the first to represent. players to show hey this is how it's done if you're a player don't let these organizations take advantage you know well he did get your money and we appreciate that you know we really do oh in 2009 he had six interceptions a career high including two in the playoffs which they went to the a fc championship one of the best seasons by a cornerback in nfl history he held all star receivers to an average of 30 yards per game. He had a sick one-handed

interception against Vincent Jackson and he did have a couple, he covered Moss. On the game Moss had the one-handed catch on him. Yes. Moss had that one-handed catch but Reeve was giving him fits all game that game. Yeah, I think Reve

like we saw the two greatest players like scale players to ever go against each other. I think there was a clip. It was 2009 was it where Revis had an interception on Moss and it was one of the best plays i've seen a corner because he's first off he's going versus moss who's bigger than him has a longer arm reach as well and he jumps up and high points the ball yeah but then we got to go back you got to give credit to moss 2010 my rookie

year he comes back one the next year and he has that one hand grab versus revis you know in the end zone from that bomb from brady i mean i was on the silent on that play and i was like damn that was nice. That's Randy Moss who just made that play and it was on Doral Reeves. So they each got each other and that was a heck of a battle because it's like a Hall of Famer Corner versus a Hall of Famer Wide Receiver. Randy was still

like Reeve was in his prime prime though. He was still young-legged. He was young like Randy wasn't like I would love to see that when Randy was like Minnesota Randy. It would have been a heck of a battle but that's why Randy Moss's one-hand catch was even more impressive.

Because it was like it was Prime Reeves. Yeah. it was his talent rani moss's talent dude he he low key was a monster on twitter early in the days he used to have some outrageous twitter battles with like guys beef he's had some wild beef on twitter i actually i'm coming to the big apple to give n why what they'd never seen an escape inmate gone wild on rivas island rivas's response to ochosinkos try to cover me tweet good morning world. I just woke up from a crazy dream. Ocho Sinko came on to Revis Island and disappeared. I'm telling you, I don't think Revis ever lost a Twitter beef. They're fun. I mean, you only hear about him on Twitter is when there's a beef. And let me tell you, he does bring that heat to the

table. Hopefully he gets in the beef soon. I know. Yeah, but I think he's had a lot of beef on Twitter and a lot of like back and forth, but I swear I'm pretty sure like Revis has won all the beefs. Look at the notable. Like all the briefs. So in 2009, all these receivers had 35 yards or less. And these guys were good. Andre Johnson. He was in his prime then.

Randy Moss. In his prime that year. Marquise Colston. Oh, I love Marquise. T.O. twice. Tori Holt. Oh. Steve Smith.

Reggie Wayne and Ocho Cinco. Dang, that is Revis Island for you, right there. Shit, time. And what was one cool thing when he got into the Hall of Fame in 2023? He was the first ballot. Obviously, I mean, Revis Island, one of the best corners, if not the best corner of all time. What was really cool about it was that his mom, Diana, inducted him into the Hall of Fame. That's awesome.

You know, that's special, you know. You got to give credit to all the moms out there. I mean, they got us to where we are. They're the ones who brought us to all our practices growing up. Make sure we were fed, scheduled everything, schedule all our appointments if we were sick to get us healthy. So shout out to Revis's mom for the induction of Dereyvis into the Hall of Fame. What kind of dude is Derell Revis?

Well, he's definitely a stud. He's a freak. He's a dog. Dude's dude. But I think one comes to mind. One, two, three. Whiz. I mean, he was so clutch.

All you got to say, hey, man. just cover that guy and he would cover them all game because he knew the knowledge of the whole game playing knew the knowledge of the whole other team what they were doing he was just he was innovative man he was and he was knowledgeable on the field and also kind of off the field with contracts as well he maximized his potential of earning which is just amazing you got you got to appreciate that because you see a lot of guys come into the NFL and they just get used and abuse and they don't get paid like they should and then boom they're thrown out so got a ball and got paid yes So shout out to Dural for, you know, hooking it up.

All right, Jules, it's been a great high school football season so far this year. And you guys have sent us some amazing highlights. And we have some more incredible plays to take a look at. And we're going to be breaking down some highlights from around the world of high school football to showcase the next generation of stars with our friends at T-Mobile. And for Friday night, 5G lights. Let's get into it. All right, we got to throw this one on. wow look at him go you know who that is as charles woods junior right there that makes sense

he looks like his dad running too he sure he does he's taking it to the house he looks like his pops out there and charles witson junior is a four-star safety out of lake nona in orlando and talking about high school football florida produces a lot of great talent florida has great high school football as well so we know charles woods and juniors going for his top talent down there in Orlando and look at him just go man he looks athletic i bet you he's smart as that because charles woodson's a smart smart smart football player and that's why he was a two-way player and won the heisman you got to have the intellectual to be able to do that and just looking at charles woodson junior he kind of looks like he's just smart he looks smart looks

smooth he's got the same running gate his dad and uh it's going to be insane when he signs with Ohio State. Do you just think it's fair, you know, to have Charles Woodson Jr. out there on the football field? Like, like, it's just unfair. Great to have them as your teammate. But, like, you know, you're going against them.

You're like, do you just throw it in the bag? Like, oh, we don't have a shot at this game. Like, they got Charles Woodson, Jr. I mean, we got to see. We're going to see in the next few years how unfair it's going to be. And what kind of dude you think he is? um well he's he's probably like his dad very wizardy he can play on all sides of the ball he house to kick off right here he's probably playing db at a high level probably playing you know i've seen

some of the receiver highlights his dad always shows me highlights at work at fox so it's awesome i would say he's a stud he's any or he's a stud or he's a stud we'll leave it to the comment section no we'll leave it to mr woodson we'll leave it up to he would. Let's hop on the next one. Let's see this next one. Let's go. Oh, look at that route. Oh, slant and go. A little slant and go. Oh, a slug. One-handed snack. You know how hard of a route that is to run, especially at the high school level? Like, you've got to be so athletic. Like, to run at the high school level, that's smooth and crisp. Usually, even when you're

that good and you're a four-star, five-star player that still run a route that that is that crisp, you know, at that age is impressive. Well, the real impressive thing is when you, is when you, He didn't get caught inside on the slant and ran through the contact of the player that was sitting at five, six yards waiting for him. So you really have to sell it, but you still have to get through it. So that was really cool. And he finishes off with the one-hand snag. Everyone's one-hand snagging these days. It's one of the best one-hand snags you'll see all year.

And Craig is a four-star, Georgia commit. So shout out the Kirby Smart. This is a smart play to go out and get Craig Dandridge out of Cam. Bridge High School in alfalfa alfalferata Georgia alfalfaureta Georgia that's a cool name oh let's go oh we got another one from you know Craig Dandridge you know oh another one I mean we don't got to keep an eye on this guy because I our eye is on this guy he's going to George I'm sure we're going to see more of that when he gets there this is him same guy he is a dog look at oh look at that's a one hand snagging that's a smart play right there that that's when you know you know the game of football and you got a lot in

your toolbox look at he looks like he's running a feed route he gives up he pretends he gives up hard and then the quarterback throws a back shoulder to him you got to appreciate that the fake i'm running full speed to slow down give up on the play but really the ball's coming to you i've done that a couple times in my career the robbie g yeah that looks like one of your one hand snags across the middle how he put his hand up and got that thing kept his feet in bounds did he have to sign them up for Sundays. I like this guy. Sign them up for Sundays.

Back shoulder, give a little push. No one saw that. I'm telling you. Dude, that's one. He got one. That's college though. I'm telling you right now, this guy's going to go into Georgia

and start as a true freshman. You think? Yeah, he just looks like he has all the tangibles and he looks ready to go. Well, I can't wait to see it. Yeah. I'm calling it right now. And T-Mobile's Friday night,

5G lights just wrapped in another amazing season. Thank you to every school that competed. posted and rallied your communities. And the winner of this year's Friday night 5G lights is Derek's High School and Derek's Arkansas, home of the outlaws. Over 2,000 schools have entered and 450 of them scored $5,000 and 25 took home $25,000. And now one school just made history.

And a huge thank you to all the high schools and communities that participated and rallied your town your energy pride and inspiring stories made this season unforgettable unforgettable and dude jules i was there in derricks arkansas when i went there for the pep rally that they had they were the winners they're the grand prize winners of one million dollars to transform their football stadium and it was one of the coolest things i've ever been a part of and i want to thank team mobile for this wonderful campaign they brought in bailey zimmerman a country artist who's on the up and up great singer great performer the high school kids absolutely loved them they were going bonkers from like you know people kind of go bonkers for me jules but i'm going to tell you this

they went way more bonkers for bailey zimmerman i wasn't the one performing i you know presented the check you know to the school as you can see right there i have the one million dollar check with the CEO in my hand and then the bottom left picture there's bailey zimmerman and i he performed about five songs man it was just so cool to see to have our own private concert wow in the gym at derrick's high school and all i'm talking about not college kids soon to be college kids the high school kids were going absolute bonkers man i can't wait for next year's t-mobile friday night 5g lights campaign well let's get back to some highlights now after you know talking about derrick's high school as the winner of the friday night 5g lights so you got to keep your hat on the swivel this is

linebacker Mason Murphy out of Oh, oh, I told you. Keep your head on a swivel. Mason Murphy out of Brentwood and Tennessee laying the wood and forcing the fumble jewels. You can't have a better play than that, like a better feeling in your body and mind

when you absolutely deck someone and you cause a fumble on the hit as well, man. Well, he's also pursuit. The guy's supposed to be running that way. What great effort to continue to chase and catch a guy sleeping. Caught him sleeping. Linebacker, Mason.

That's a dog. That's a dog. Mason Murphy's a dog with that type of hit. That was a dog hit. And effort. And effort. And effort. Only dogs just keep going and make that play at the end of the play.

Well, let's look at this one. This is Michael Wachins Jr. out of Millbrook. Oh. Juked him out of his pants. Jockstrap. left number nine oh his nut cup

he looked like Jamar Gibbs yeah this weekend yeah oh my god yeah stop

talk about stopping on a dime oh oh oh oh and that might warrant a taunting flag with that celebration

yeah he probably got a flag in high school probably no celebration high school but hey when you get to the NFL buddy you can do silly things like that all right let's look at

one more of these highlights we got O-line. We've got to give a little O-line love. O-line, Kelsey Adams. Oh, before it even plays, I bet you he absolutely levels someone. He's got to. He's got to just take someone. If an O-Lyman's on here, he's just got to pancake some dude. Kelsey Adams

out of Langston Hughes. Wait, I am totally wrong. I am totally wrong. No way. Kelsey Adams is doing something I've never seen done before. Let's see it. You didn't see what he did? I mean, the play was basically over and

and Kelsey just, look it. He took Oh, yeah, there you go. He took the ball runner. That's our guy. He took the ball runner and he carried him 15 yards. He's not carrying the rock. He's carrying the guy.

Yeah, carrying the guy. That's like, that's actually the definition of the tush push of like the realest, like most outrageous touch push you can see because he's tush pushing, carrying pushing his own ball carry like 15 yards down the field. Look at this guy. Six foot six, 295 pounds. probably be $2.40 by the time he gets to Georgia. And he's committed to, what's up with Georgia having all the goddamn guys? Oh, well, this guy's out of Georgia, too. We do have a lot of,

this high school is out of Georgia. There's a few of these guys that are going, a lot of these dogs are going to, I mean, it makes sense. This guy's a dog. You carry your ball carry across the field. You got to go be a Georgia dog. Well, that was a great season of Friday night lights. Thank you to everyone who sent in highlights. Those are awesome. Yes, they really are, man. And it's just a next generation and we just get to watch them and hopefully you know we're the first ones to say their names and be like yeah we already talked about them now they're in the NFL we already knew about them plenty of years ago yeah right these kids are definitely TikTok dancing right now probably got millions of followers and shit probably more followers and us combined Twitch streams and stuff

they're fucking so swagged out these kids we don't know a twitch or TikTok we can't even dance anymore jules i just want to give a big thanks to team mobile for making it all possible and helping community shine under the Friday Night Lights. This season may be over, but the story isn't. Man, I'm just sounding so inspirational here. I'm loving. I'm tuning my own horn. So stay tuned for season three in 2006.

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What's up, Krong? What's up, Jules? This is Matt Big Fan Glunk. I was at your retirement game with the Patriots on November 13th. Amazing time. But my question for the both of you is, what is your either most funny or favorite Shane-Farine moment? And let's get them on the pod, guys.

Great podcast, best podcast. job there. Have a good rest of your day guys. Matt, Matt, you're all over the place, my man. I love it. Like I'm at your retirement, I was at your retirement game on the 13th. I'm a big fan of you and Jules. And then all of a sudden you just... Shana. Yeah, you just

turn, you just make a U-turn or just like, oh, you you go through a red light where you're not supposed to make the right hand turn on red and you just do it and you help marry it and you ask a question about Shane Voreen. I love it. Like, I love

I mean, let me tell you, I got a Shane Vrain story. What's your Shane's story? Shane Vrain had like a broken hand or broken arm at the time. And I had a broken forearm or something. We went to New York City. We had a great night out. This was during the off week during the season. And we stayed out basically all night long.

This is when we were maniacs, Jules, so we can tell the story. And we had a flight at 6 a.m. In the morning, so we could get back for treatment. Well, we went out to 4 a.m. We looked at each other, said, time to go to the airport. We got to the airport super quick, sat down right before you go through TSA, both of each other. We fell asleep together, shoulder to shoulder with our heads touching each other. All of a sudden, it's about 5.15, our flight's at 6, we get woken up by the police.

hey you guys can't be sleeping here and we looked at each other like what the heck where are we and we looked and we're like it's only 5 15 a.m we got to get to our flight and we made our flight fell asleep on the whole entire flight fell asleep on the car ride from boston to jillette stadium and then went into rehab and didn't miss a beat didn't miss a beat that was us back in the day we didn't miss a beat even though we are crazy maniacs we still got our work done and we still made it every single time on the right schedule. That's what's up and that's my story

with Shane Vareen and it was a pleasure sleeping with him in public on the public bench in the airport. I love Shaino. Now, I lived with Shane.

He did? Yeah, he lived in my house. We lived together for, I think, a year. And Shane, and my boy, Kirk came out, moved out.

And Shane every night would, like, order a Domino's pizza. Like the thin crust. He loved the thin crust. or whatever and he would order dominoes all time and my boy kirk comes up and he goes man is this what NFL players do they order pizza every night oh it's thin crust yeah but i just that's that's my shano story and he was in the best friend smoothie i love shano a lot of good times i love shane

and now what is he he's he's part of the houston texan's front office isn't he's going front office yeah he's front office he's uh he's a gem he's legit and he's gonna be you're gonna hear about him he's gonna be a star yeah he is a star all right let's go here Jules, Harold from Western Massachusetts here. I've heard you mention cream season a lot. I was just wondering, are we in cream season yet? Also, I've heard you mention buttering teams up and that sort of thing. You just break down what any of that means for us?

I mean, Harold, this is definitely for Jules. Jules is always talking about cream season, buttering teams up, and then they slip off the edge because they're so buttered up. Jules, get into this. What do you mean by all this? Harold wants to know. The cream season is. usually the week after Thanksgiving,

and it's the group of teams that have the potential to win a Super Bowl. Because what does cream do? It rises to the top. When you milk a cow, you take the good stuff off the top. And that's what a cream team is. Those are the guys that'll go into the playoffs,

have a shot to win a Super Bowl. Now, a butter team are the two teams that are in the Super Bowl. Tell us about a butter team. Well, they take the very top of the cream. The very top of the cream is butter. That's a butter team, dog. And so those out of the cream teams, you get the two butter teams

that represent the conferences in the Super Bowl. So butter teams are Super Bowl teams. Cream teams are teams that have a shot, most likely playoff teams, but teams that are having a shot in the playoffs to go to the Super Bowl. So I was totally wrong at the beginning, Harold, saying that buttery teams get so buttered up that they slip off the edge because they're so slippery from the butter is a tippity top robby

okay i butter is the tippity i apologize and that's why jules had to explain this segment when you get to the top of the cream season rub i tell you right now you take the top of that cream and you get the butter teams oh yeah give it to me butter and it was all inspired off of macho manority savage because he did a bit where he took the cream out of his and i love i just love that persona so that's that's why i call it cream season and butter teams bubs well thank you for explaining i just learned something today you go jules i like it too you're a man all right well we got a we got a text that came through in our inbox just now uh this one's for me just because you just took that one over and you did such a great job explaining cream and butter jewels but any plans for grunk in the wwee ring you know That's a very interesting question because every time I did something with the WW.

It actually exploded tremendously when I went into the Royal Rumble, like what was that? I don't know, 2018 and I absolutely leveled Ginger Mahal. You know, I kicked him in the face twice. And that was unscripted. I just did that on the spot. I just was like, I got to get some kicks in. Like, I always wanted to do that. It was just so cool to be in the ring in front of 50,000 fans and just kick him.

He was the world champion at the time. He had the belt, heavyweight champion or what do they call it? World champion. he was the top dog he was he was the butter of the cream he was a butter guy and then my friend mojo raleigh came in scooped him after i got out pinned him he won the battle royale or was it the royal rio i think it was the battle royale i'm pretty sure royal rumble and battle royale i always get confused i just love them both and uh look how jacked you were yeah i was jacked that was huge dude so it always blows up every time i do stuff with the w w and now i just haven't and so long

And, you know, a football career just felt like I took... Well, you did a W.W.E. move on the field against Buffalo. Yeah, I did. When I elbow dropped Tredavius White, that would... W.W.E. love that one. All W.W.E. fans said, I should have blamed the W.W.E. for being part of the W.W.E., that's why... You should have got to pay for your fine. But, um, well, that was a suspension. It wasn't just a fine.

That's one... Well, it's still a fine. You're finding a game check. Yeah. It was. That was like 200 plus... That's okay. It was the best money I ever spent. because I had a week off, and then came back and Dominique versus Steelers because I was fresh. And I was trying to freaking preach for like three weeks. I just need a week off. I was saying it to everyone.

I was like, my body needs a week. And what happened? I got suspended, came back 160 yards to the house. Couldn't stop me. Everything. Blocking great. My preaching is just always so right, but it's just hard to preach when you're not the coach.

So the plans are, are you getting in the race? As of right now, no, but I went on Stephanie. McMahon's podcast, you know, when we were at Fanax Fest. And she's kind of like egging me on that, like, get me back into the WWE a little bit, but I kind of pumped the brakes because I don't want to make any promises because there's nothing, like, there's something there if I wanted to go back, but I'm only really going to do that if it's like I'm really, really, really feeling it. And just that opportunity just hasn't come, you know?

Yeah, I haven't had that feeling. So I'm a big WWE fan, but seeing me in the ring, you know, I would say on a scale, through 100% I would say it's like a it's like a 96.69% that you won't see me back well so there's a chance so what is it 96.69% I don't even that just flowed off my time I meant to say just 96% but then I had 96 in it so then I had to hit the point six nine I like it so that he could be there so that's that's we got to go to one of the uh restomanias three points you should just go While, Jules, I didn't actually go to last year's WrestleMania in Vegas again, and I'm hosting

I'm the official after party of WrestleMania. I think we got to go. Grank Beach. It moved from the Super Bowl because it was just too much mayhem and I couldn't handle it there anymore. It was just too, like, too much going on. We moved it to WrestleMania now. It's the official after party of WrestleMania, which was so perfect. We got to, we got to take it off.

We got to go. And then last one, one more. How about Justin Herbert playing through that broken hand? What's the craziest injury you guys played through? We're seeing another guy played through. Thanks. Oh, I mean, do you mean, what injuries haven't we played through? Jules, you can go first on this one.

I mean, it's playing through a broken hand. I played through a broken hand, but I didn't play the whole game. Yeah, but you're trying to catch and block. Like, Justin Herbert, it was his left hand? Yeah. Yeah, he's still throwing with the right. You're fine. That's nothing in my book.

I broke my hand against Baltimore on that two-minute drive before half in 2012, and then I ended up catching a touchdown with it. But then they wouldn't let me back in after, because it was, I couldn't move my, like, there's no way. And then I played, I broke my arm when Vandabash in that, remember the snow game? In, was that, or were you, the snow game, I don't think you were there. No, it was 2000. First Tennessee Titans.

It was Tennessee Titans. Oh, yeah, you guys won, like, Tom threw for like six touchdowns in the first half. Yeah, you guys won like 64 nothing or 64. So when Tom was out of the game and it was me and Hoy, I broke my arm and I caught a ball with a broken arm. And Ivan came to me and he goes, I'm like, hi, is my arm here? He goes, what are you doing? Get your ass back on the field. You ain't going out.

And I was like, all right. So I go out and I catch a ball and I come back home. I'm like, I don't, something's wrong with my arm. He goes, yeah, what's wrong? I think I broke it. He's like, ah, get out of here. Get out of here. He started yelling at me.

So I went and caught a ball with a broken arm. then I was out. That's respect, brother. That is respect. The hernias, I had hernias that I played through a whole year. You played through a back your whole career. Yeah, back. I mean, I would say the biggest, you know, injury that, like, where I had to perform at

high level, so it was the last game I played for the New England Patriots and what was that, Super Bowl, 52, the one year MVP? What was that, 52 or 53? 53. I just get all the Super Bowl's confused. Same. Yeah, I just say, I just know the team. We're very blessed because we went to a lot.

I just know the team. and what city it was in and what stadium. But that one, 53, your MVP, Super Bowl season. And I took that quad contusion. Oh, yeah. And then, like, it was a quad contusion where 1,000 milliliters of blood got taken out. But by end of the game, with two minutes left, I couldn't move my leg anymore. Like, I maximize the amount of use that could get on it.

And then the last two minutes on the final drive, I was blocking it with one leg and just kind of throwing my shoulder into, like, Aaron Donald and, like, their defensive ends. Yeah, it didn't look pretty. It was a pretty job. You made the fucking play of the game, bro. I did. I made the play of the game with a quad contusion where I should, where I thought my leg was broken the whole entire game.

Dude, they did it right after the game, right? It was, it was, I couldn't walk. I couldn't even sleep. I got 20 minutes of sleep that night. I couldn't walk for four weeks after that. I couldn't even put pants on my quad was that thick. That's, yeah, dude, those contusions are, are brooded. I wish I could get a contusion like that to my third leg and make that thing grow.

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