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Episode Date: October 30, 2025Happy Halloween! On today's episode, Gronk & Jules are embracing spooky season by dressing up as referees and breaking down some of the scariest dudes in league history: Myles Garrett and Dick But...kus. Since we are dressed as referees this week, we will be unveiling a brand new game we're calling "Flag on the Play" in this week's Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What's up, bro?
Hey, Jules, how you doing?
Clearly, we're dressed up because it's Halloween.
Happy Halloween.
What are you?
I'm a referee.
So am I.
That's a flag already on you, Jules.
Asking me what I am dressed up as, as you can tell, I'm a referee, brother.
That's true.
That's true.
15-yard penalty, unsportsman-like on Jules.
not knowing what I'm dressed up for.
What's the signal for unsportsman-like?
No, is it a hat?
Is it?
Uneligible?
That's an eligible receiver.
Un-sportsman-like.
This is unsportsman-like here.
No, what is unsportsman-like?
Here in the nut house, this is.
Personal foul, or is it just personal foul?
No.
Un-sportsman-like.
No, it's this.
Oh, get out of here.
Yeah, no shot.
Unsportsman-like conduct on Julian for not knowing why I'm dressed up,
and it's Halloween.
15 yard penalty
You out of here, Jules
Happy Halloween, buddy
Personal foul on Rob
Well, as we are
The illegal man dressed downfield
On Grunk
Hey, we're in this together, Jules
Who's your favorite ref of all time?
Yeah, well, now that we're dressed as referees
We have talk about who our favorite
ref of all time.
I'm going to go with the Hockey League crew
You got at Hockley, who's the dad
And you got Sean Hockley, who's the son
And why do you think they're my favorite
referees of all time, Jones. Because they're jacked.
They need to start drug testing these
refs. Why? Because
every one of them are jacked now.
They're all jacked. You can't be looking better than some of these
guys on special teams and
some of these, like the fifth receiver.
These dudes are like way more jacked. Yeah, but if you got sloppy
referees out there who aren't in shape, how are they going to
make calls and run up and down the field?
Yeah, it's true. Yeah, let these referees stay jacked.
I used to love Gene. They should feed them PEDs.
yeah they yeah for their eyes yeah for their eyes yeah i used to love jean stereotor he sterator was
always because his his son went to kent state we'd always talk about our days at kent state you
always got to butter up the refs i like bill venevich he was our guy a little bit why why do you
love bill venevich well he was he was in the super bowl the catch game and i thought they
i thought they were pretty good i thought they were pretty consistent on that one was he i was he
He did not call a flag on that play.
He did not.
Bill Venevich, we love you.
And then also, I think they were, were they that the Chiefs won to him and his gang?
Bill Vinovich didn't touch it, and he saw that.
You know, I didn't touch the punt, and he saw that.
He's got great eyes.
Pereira, our guy at Fox.
Shout out to Mike Pereira.
He's been a while ago.
He was there.
Did he ref before our days?
Yeah, I want to say maybe the early.
I don't remember him being out of the field when we were playing.
He's a great dude, though.
He is.
Great guy to have around the building.
Great water cooler talk guy.
Yes.
When I see him at like the egg station in the avocado room.
Great conversations.
We always talk back because I had the neck surgery.
He had bad back.
So we always go, uh, yeah, he was there for our last year.
My rookie year.
Yeah, I wonder if you ever refed us.
I don't know.
We're going to have to ask him, you know.
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foot four and two hundred seventy two pounds this elite defensive end was the first overall
in the 2017 draft after breaking Texas A&M's all-time sack record
and earning unanimous All-American honors.
He has become one of the most feared men in the league,
earning six Pro Bowl nominations for all pro selections,
all while racking up 14 or more sacks in each of the last four seasons.
Let's get on Miles Garrett.
Jeez, Miles Garrett.
What's the first thing you think of when you hear the name Miles?
Gareth.
Scary.
Oh, scary.
He said, dude, you see the picture of him when he was 14 years old?
He looked like he was like 30.
Jacked.
He's right there.
Look right there.
It's down there when he's 14 years old.
He does not look 30 in that picture.
No, but he looks like a kid, like in middle school in that picture.
And how old was he?
He was 14?
He's 14.
Is that middle school?
He's got 17-inch arms.
Yeah, I mean, he's huge for being 14 years old.
I mean, no one has biceps developed and triceps that are that big and already that size at 14 years old.
You already knew he was going to be a freak of nature.
All his friends had to know he was going to make it pro no matter what already at that age.
I mean, he goes to Texas A&M.
What's up with them in the pass rushers?
Vaughn Miller, Miles Garrett.
Pass rush are you?
You got to have like eight guys coming out of Texas A.m.
Like, you know how Ohio State literally has like six.
to 10 wide receivers that are all dominant right now, same with LSU.
It's always a fight between those two on who's wide receiver,
you, LSU, or Ohio State.
That's because they have like eight guys in the NFL dominated.
Does Texas A&M have any more guys outside of Von Miller and Miles Garrett?
I think they got it.
They got some big boy D-Lyman too, I think.
I don't know for a fact.
Well, is there even any other school with two guys that are dominant past rushers in the league
right now?
If not, well, then Texas A&M is past rushers.
are you. Ohio State always has guys.
Bosa's. Oh, yeah, there
we go. Yeah. So no, we can't,
we can't give Texas any of that credit yet.
Dude, and it's Halloween. It's perfect that we're going over him
because he, he's like notoriously known to dress up
for Halloween. Look at his costumes over the years.
And he does crazy elite house.
I don't want my daughter to see this house because then she's going to give me
pressure to make our house better.
He can't. Look at it. He put all the quarterbacks that he has
sacked in his graveyard.
You got what, Mack Jones right there?
Patriot's Jersey.
You got Joe Burrow right there.
Who's number 17 and number eight?
Who are those guys?
He's got Kyler Murray.
Kyler Murray's in that graveyard?
Right there on the top right.
Number one from the Cardinals.
All right.
You got Lamar Jackson in there.
Yes.
You got Mahomes in there as well.
Oh, is that Mahomes?
That is a fucking awesome.
Red jersey in the back.
Yeah, that is.
is Mahomes. It's just all the quarterbacks. I think he has sacked. He put in his graveyard.
That's pretty legendary. And look at the car. That's like a really cool Halloween, like,
does he, that's when you know you're rich. Halloween status symbol.
He just went to a junkyard and got like a, a, a disastered car.
Putting in the graveyard, everyone that you sacked. This guy is Mr. Halloween. That's because he's the
scariest player to block on the field, Julian. Did you have to block him? I actually never blocked
Miles Gare. And I was just talking about this with
with Kyler. Shout out to Kyler
about how I blocked
so many of the legendary pass rushers
still in the NFL today that are all
established. Like you name them.
Name a couple big time pass rushes.
Just Joey Bosa, who's on the Buffalo Bills.
Never blocked Nick Bosa. He was the only other one.
Go. Keep naming.
Benito.
Bonito's a young buck. Like super young.
I'm talking established guys that
Val Miller knows their name. Von Miller plenty of times.
Who else?
Donald Aaron Donald plenty of times
Faced him plenty of times
And you never got Miles Garrett
My never faced
T.J. Watt face some plenty of times
J.J. Watt? J.J. Watt?
Hutchinson? He's Young Buck. Young Wuck.
Yeah, I was retired when he came up.
Brian Burns? Yeah, I faced him when he was on Carolina
when I was in Tampa. And he's a young buck though.
Max Crosby went against him. But Miles Garrett
he played while I was playing. That's one of the only
pass rushers in the league right now that's very established
that I never went against. And I'm kind of
glad i never did dude yeah i am super glad i i wouldn't want to go versus him he like why he looks
like he's not human you want to know what's wild about um miles garrett is just how big he is how
muscular he is usually those guys are dense and you could tell that they're dense he's very functional
with how big he is he's very fluid um you know with his strength uh usually when guys are that jack you're
more robotic and you can just go up the field and you can't really bend and you can't really
explode how you want to explode because nothing's working from A to Z because you're kind of
clogged up with all that muscle. This guy has all that muscle and he's super fluid. He has rare
explosiveness. You see him dunk? Tremendous athletic system. Have you seen him in the basketball
court? He goes on like celebrity courts all the time. I mean, it's impressive. This guy is a
freak of nature and that's why he's so scary to block. Oh, he really is. He said the
Brown single season sack record
with how many?
16.
And I think he can get more.
He's one of those, I think
he had three sacks last week,
or week seven.
I think he's one of those guys where if he had
help on the other side.
Micah, did you block Micah?
I played versus Micah,
his very first game of his career
when he was on the Dallas Cowboys.
It was my last season with Tampa Bay.
So I won against him.
Yeah, so I went against that new buck,
new era of past rushes.
You know what's also been really cool about Miles Garrett?
You've seen his growth as a player.
I mean, this was the guy who took another guy's helmet off
and almost beat him with it, Mason Rudolph.
And then, like, now he seems like he's like the face of the Browns,
and he seems like he's grown from that whole situation.
And how he handles the media, I know there's been some, you know,
in the offseason when he was there he wanted to leave but like he whenever he handles himself
with the media on camera i feel like he's always like super well spoken he sounds like a great dude
sounds like a leader and he has that demand of that locker room yeah he sure does and they all
respect him and his opponents respect him as well it's not like anyone's coming out like oh f miles
gear this that about him they all just show him respect and the honor that he deserves and i think
that was a little uncharacteristic i mean the heat of the moment the emotions going
on, all the hitting in the NFL, you can get highly tense. And I think that just that Mason
Rudolph incident wasn't, you know, his character. And that happens. You see fights happen all
the time in the NFL. I mean, the guy from the Houston wide receiver, Andre Johnson,
remember Versa. And what's his name? Corlin Finnegan. Finnegan. I mean, they went all out
battle. I mean, that happens in the NFL. And the heat of the moment.
I mean, you're kind of like in survival mode sometimes.
So you never seen them really have a mistake since then or before that.
So kind of could have been just because of the heat of the moment.
So you got to appreciate how he represents himself and how he handled the situation after all that too.
1,000% and the cool thing about him, he may look like a football player,
but he has so many other interests that he shows.
You know, this guy loves dinosaurs.
We already saw he does Halloween.
He goes above and beyond.
He's got a lot of like cool quirky shit about him that like you wouldn't expect.
Well, he did look like a corky guy at 14 years old.
He did look corkly.
So this kind of makes sense.
It kind of makes sense.
He's got a huge obsessing with Jurassic Park, which is freaking awesome.
He said he might pursue a PhD in patholo, paleontology.
Pilean tall is that dinosaurs he wants to be the guy from Jurassic Park
I mean if he becomes a guy from Jurassic Park I want him to call us up and bring him
on that ride no I want to go to that island that's what I mean I want to go to that
island I want to see dinosaurs with Miles Garrett yes I want to go I would feel safe
with Miles Garrett if we discovered dinosaurs Velociraptor's got nothing on Miles Garrett
T-Rex yeah T-Rex we still are dead because we can't outrun them you usually only
he's got to outrun everyone. He's faster than us right now. He's stronger than us. I mean,
he's the richest guy that's not a quarterback. He's making 40 a year. How fucking nuts is that? He
deserves it, though. He literally is a game wrecker. If you watch him play, like the whole
offense, they slide everyone to Miles Garrett, which makes the other guys be able to eat on that
defensive line. You know, they all get the credible matchups, and he's got to play team ball.
Like every game, he's in the same category as Donald to me.
Do you think that Miles Garrett would ever come close to touching the NFL season sack record?
I mean, I would say so if he had some help on the other side, you know, that someone that would compliment him and take some of the double teams off of him.
This guy's probably getting double teamed on a continuous basis.
Triple.
Triple team, double team.
I mean, why wouldn't you?
Running back.
Why would you let him one on one that wouldn't make sense?
if he had other guys in the defensive line to help him out,
I think he could come close to touching the NFL season sack record.
You know what?
He's the type of guy that can get hot at any time.
At any time.
Like if he plays a really bad team, it doesn't surprise me if he gets like a five-sac game
because he's that, you know what I mean?
He's that big of a problem.
Now, 22 and a half sacks is the record.
That's no fucking walk in the park.
No, not at all.
But I'm never going to, you can never just say this guy,
will never reach that because he's got
what it takes to do it. Yeah,
he needs help on the other side, but he can still maybe
do it without a guy. Who knows?
What's he at right now through seven weeks?
He's at five right now through, you know,
he'll get it going.
But you can't even just talk sacks with him.
How many pressures do you think he has put in on
quarterbacks?
A million.
A million pressures to where the quarterback feels it in the
pocket and it has to throw the ball away
or makes a bad throw or makes an interception
because of Miles Garrett.
I mean, and that's not considered a sack,
and that might be even a bigger play in the scheme of things,
even though he didn't get a sack.
I'm already thinking about, like,
when we get Miles Garrett to come on dudes on dudes,
he's probably going to go over, like, a dinosaur specialist.
Like, that's the guy he's going to talk about,
he's not even going to talk about a football player.
He's going to talk about literally, like, some pathological,
what is it, pay the, pantholitan dinosaur doctor?
Dinosaur doctor.
He's going to talk about a dinosaur doctor.
And then I would ask him, like,
What type of dinosaur would Julian be and what type of dinosaur I would be?
Because I already know what type of dinosaur I am.
I'm granosaurus.
Yeah.
What are you, Jules?
What would you say?
I'm Edelsaurus.
Edelosaurus.
No, you're not.
You're Edel Rex.
That just sounded better.
You can't be the same dinosaur.
I have to go Velociraptor.
I'm probably a lot of a raptor.
You're Edel Raptor.
I'm Edel Raptor.
I'm Edel Raptor.
You're Adel Raptor.
You've got to, you know, put part of your name in it.
Yeah.
How many times have you thought about that?
So many.
Like a thousand times in my life.
He's probably,
Edward Dinker Cope.
Is this the famous,
these are like some of the famous doctors.
You think he knows,
he probably knows all these people,
where he's looked him up.
He's gone down Google search.
He might be related to them.
Not from the looks of it.
But, uh,
yeah,
Jack Horner.
Henry Fairfield, Henry Fairfield, Osborne, Lordfield, Charles Marsh, Edwin H. Colbert.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say maybe not related to them.
And because this segment is presented by Dude Wipes, what is his cleanest moment in his career, Jules?
Well, I know his non-cleanest.
His dirtiest moment was when he beat up Mason Rudolph with his helmet.
And that's when Dude Wipes comes in the play and you clean it up.
And he sure did. And he cleaned it up. And he cleaned it up perfectly. Thanks to dude wipes.
And now he's the highest paid guy. It's not a quarterback. But how about that one?
Didn't he remember he did the Jamie Collins, jumped over the field goal?
That's the exact play I was going to say was the cleanest game in his career. It wasn't just that he blocked that
field goal. He jumped over. He had some Jamie Collins-ish in him with that play. It was so clean when he
jumped over the line. But wasn't it a game where he went off as well with a with a couple sacks?
Strip sack. Strip sack. What else did he do that game?
Like, it was a clean, clean game just overall.
And then the field goal block was just gravy on top.
That's 1,000% his dude wipes cleanest moment for sure.
Time.
What kind of dude is Miles Garrett?
I mean, this is the easiest of all easy.
It really is.
I mean, being that size, that fast, that explosive.
He's got all of it in it.
It seems like it.
That big of a Halloween enthusiast.
you know what he is on three one two three freak i mean he's a freak league all over the place the
way he dresses up for Halloween the way he can jump the way he can sack quarterbacks he's a dinosaur
doctor and he's like the most scary human being in the freaking league here's an idea for him that's a
freak he's got brains and he's got body that is freaky and here's an idea you know do you know
those sacks you put on to have a race you racing sacks that's what he should be for
Halloween a potato sack a potato sack because he sacks so many quarterbacks wow I'm a genius that
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Before we get into our next dude, I think our shelf could use a little refresh.
Yeah, definitely.
I agree, Jules, because there is a lot of your stuff on here.
Like, why is none of my stuff on here or Tom stuff or or Dola stuff or any of the
defensive players that we played with?
I got a bunch of those things.
Like, come on.
Like, oh, it's just all your stuff, Jules.
It is my house.
All right.
Oh, it is your house.
But I did.
want to get something unique that screams,
gronks. So that's why...
Well, what did you get?
I went to eBay.
eBay?
Where you can find exactly what you need
for anything that you're looking for,
anything. And you can find it on eBay.
There's millions of things to buy on eBay, Jules.
What could you have possibly got?
But the online shopping on eBay is a little different
because you can get anything.
Everything you buy on eBay has a story
and it makes it a little more special, Robbie.
Rare and meaningful.
Yeah, that's right, because I used to buy my paintball guns on eBay when I was in seventh grade.
And that was very meaningful to me because I got the light up my brothers on the paintball course.
And I bought my paintballs and paintball guns from eBay.
And I still remember it to this day, and that was seventh grade.
Early 2000s.
And I always got half off.
I knew how to make deals.
On the early 2000s, I think everybody went through a stage where I sold everything I had on eBay.
eBay was the place to be to survive as a kid.
Yeah, you go baseball cards, anything, electronics, CDs.
We're just selling everything.
But here, I got you.
Oh, thanks, Jules.
Shall I open it right now?
Open it up.
All right.
I love the eBay rapping, too.
You know, they always wrap it tight and write.
What do we have?
What do we have?
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
Is this a Thad Castle signed Jersey from Blue Mountain State?
Thank you, Jules.
You're very favorite show.
Are you trying to say I'm Thad Castle?
I'm not saying your Thad Castle, but I remember we were talking about it.
And you kept on talking and bringing this guy up.
And you're like, you got to watch this show.
You got to watch his show.
And so I, you know, I thought it would be good.
This brings me happiness, Jules, because like you said, when you go on eBay and you get a gift,
it's rare and it's meaningful and you want to know why this is meaningful right here why is this meaningful
well first off when i broke my forearm i was in the hospital for about two weeks or like 10 days because
it got infected and we needed it to heal so i stayed in the hospital i think it was more realistically
five days five nights that's a long time in a hospital just for an arm injury and Nate dog you know nasty
Nate dog he knows every show so he recommended hey hey you're gonna love blue mountain state you're
you're not even going to know you're in the hospital if you put on Blue Mountain State.
Well, Blue Mountain State, I put on and I watch every single episode in those five days,
and it became my favorite show.
And Thad Castle was my favorite character.
I loved everything about it, and it got me through those tough days in the hospital.
So thank you, Jules.
Thank you, eBay, for this wonderful gift.
You know what?
Everyone's got to go shop eBay for millions of fines.
each with the story like this, eBay, things people love.
And there are millions of fines like this on eBay as well.
From pre-love fashion to collectibles, even vehicles or car parts.
Shop on eBay to find exactly what you're looking for.
All right, let's get into the next dude.
All right, let's get into the next dude on this scary Halloween.
Before we get into them real quick, what's your favorite,
classroom you ever dressed up as Rambo growing up as a kid, Jules.
Rambo?
When I was six years old.
That's cool.
I had like, I had the rubber like abs and stuff.
Yeah.
And then the shirt that was ripped so you could see my abs.
And I had like the bullets right around my net or my, my body.
I think I even brought a gun to school, like one of those fake guns.
Yeah, those plastic guns.
It was totally cool in the 80s, 90s.
Yeah. Back in those days.
Yeah.
And did you like go around and pretend to shoot your friends to a little bit like you're
death i was like crawling in like the mud and stuff yeah yeah that's pretty cool uh my favorite
outfit i would say i uh dressed up as a girl in like fourth grade yeah yeah pretty you know
pretty weird i was a wacko you know i put a little wig on uh and you know those you know those soft
balls that are yellow like those baseballs you put those in as i put those in as my jugs and i went
into school like that in fourth grade yeah pretty ridiculous i was out of control as a kid so i got
away with it but like that's kind of like what did your representation of what did your brothers do
i mean i was just so out of hand like people would just laugh at me no matter what there was no
stop in me as a kid i can tell you that call my mom and my dad and just ask about me as a kid and
that that represents me perfectly me dressing up as a girl and acting like a chick in fourth grade
yeah like pretty legendary that's legendary but also i dressed up as a garbage man too got
all dirty nasty clothes i put 15 different clones on me smelled like complete ass and went to school
like that it was horrific i didn't care you're like i probably i probably broke this you know the
membranes in my brain that smell things but that's oh my god you went on that's all out that's all
out let's jump into a i let's do it let's get on to our next scary dude here
is this one this guy is 6 foot 3 a 245 pound linebacker and he was the third overall pick in the
1965 NFL draft wow this guy's a legend 165 and we're still talking about him still talking
about him here in 2025 earning eight pro bowls a five all-time pro selection a hall of fame honors in
1979, a Chicago native, he starred at Illinois as a two-time All-American and Big Ten MVP after a
decorated high school career known for bone crushing tackles. He redefined the defensive
dominance. Let's get on Dick Buckus. Dick Buckus. Dick Buckass. That was the first
thing you think of right there. Jules, there you are as Rambo. Oh, look at you, man. I love that
ammo around your shoulder as well man you can't prepare the paint the black face no it's not black
face remember in the what he put his shit on yeah that's just that's kind of like i black boy on your whole
face fucking so you can blind in the woods better first thing i think of about dick buckus yeah what's the
first thing you think of besides an inappropriate first name well that's what i know you're thinking of
no yeah i am that's the first thing i think of like wow
He must have had a huge piece if that's your name.
I think his name was Richard and they call people Richard Dick.
But first thing I think of, just old school football.
Oh, he was Richard.
Yeah.
Oh, all right.
All Richards are Dick.
You know that, right?
I didn't know that.
If you're Richard, you could be.
I thought Richards, you are a dick, but you can also just be named Dick, but not Richard.
No, I don't think anyone's just named Dick.
Yeah, Dick's sporting good.
that is that is correct that is correct they're not richard sporting goods are all richards
dick's yeah uh yeah all richards are dicks that is correct if you use the nickname i i have a good one
i just went i just had a monster appearance and my uh security guard name was richard and he goes yeah
everyone knows me as uh monster dick security monster dick and like that was pretty cool i thought that was
sorry but it goes to the point anyone named richard is dick so i was like oh my security guard has a
monster dick that's what i was thinking i'm protected i'm productive so yeah if you're richard yeah
you're dick okay back to dick buckus dick fuck oh look it he's got butt in his last name too
i mean this guy is very scary that is scary is it he tore the offense fucking offensive
line's ass he shredded them like that's why that's why butt in his name tore their asses a
part on that football field.
I mean, that is, is that a Mount Rushmore or football name?
It might be.
Zig buckets.
It's top.
It's top name.
It's one of the top names.
What are some other big names?
I mean, he also had other nicknames as well.
The animal, the enforcer, the maestro.
Maestro of Mayhem.
That was me as a kid, by the way.
Like, well, how we were just talking about me dressing up as a kid.
I was the maestro of mayhem.
Oh, and the robot of destruction.
Oh, that was also me, too, walking into room.
and just me being on the field as a kid.
Me and Dick are very similar.
Do you ever meet him?
Have I ever met him?
He's not alive anymore, is he?
He died recently the last like five years.
I don't think I ever got to meet him.
I never got to meet him either,
but I was just watching some highlight films of him, man.
And I just loved the way that he plays.
And he has to be one of those first true linebackers
where it's like he's huge.
Yeah.
Like being that size.
245 back then's huge.
Exactly.
He looked bigger than offense alignment.
He looked bigger than defense alignment.
I love the way that he wore his shoulder pads.
It made him just look even bigger than everyone else because they were like stocky.
It was like he wore those fullback shoulder pads a little bit, but at the linebacker position.
But what I really loved about his game is that he ran after the ball carrier like there was no one else in his way.
Like he would just run.
A lineman would come and block him.
But it's like he could see through the linemen.
He could run right through the lineman.
He can avoid that lineman that's coming at him.
And he would get to the ball.
carrier every single time. Someone falls on the ground in front of him. Somehow, even though he's
staring at the ball carrier, he would leap over the guy that's on the ground instead of tripping
over him. It's like nothing was stopping him from getting to that ball carrier. And that's what
defines a great legendary linebacker is they see ball carrier, get the ball carrier, tackle
ball carrier. And that was Dick Buccas. And that's why he was one of the scariest guys to block because
it's so hard to block a guy that their motive is just to get the tackle.
because they can just swoop right around you, run through you.
They just don't see you, Jules.
No, I mean, I've seen some highlights of him where he just literally four,
like, I've seen him close-arm people.
Like, that was, the game back then was basically just like murder on a field.
It was like, these guys were poking each other's eyeballs, freaking,
it was just a completely different game.
And whenever you talk to anyone of like,
who's a historian of this game?
They always talk about Dick Buckus.
And we even said it, you know,
talking about him 60 years later,
his impact on the game was clearly insane.
They say he had a 4-540 back then at 2.45.
I mean, that's just crazy.
He's hard-nosed, had speed and range,
was able to cover sideline.
The sideline to sideline talk.
Oh, he was so good at that.
So good.
That was because of Dick Buccas.
You know, that's where they got the term,
sideline to sideline.
And it was pretty cool that he played his whole football career
in the state of Illinois.
You know, he went to University of Illinois,
played for the Bears.
And he's a legend.
He's just an absolute legend.
He played with the ferocity of an angered animal,
Hall of Fame coach George Allen on Dick Buckus.
The first time I saw Buccas, I started packing my gear.
There was no way that guy wasn't going to be great.
Bill George, Buckus' predecessor at linebacker for the Bears.
This is one of my favorite quotes right here by Bears Center.
Mike Pyle.
Yeah, yeah, Mike Pyle.
Yes, and just trying to get Buccas to go easier in practice
because I kind of did this sometimes.
like brother-in-law they call that brother-in-law in practice and i did it plenty of times especially
with ninko i got to give credit to ninkovitch i mean he wasn't a great cover guy um you know he's
he's kind of mind-boggled every single day as well yeah yeah but uh this guy has low center
center of gravity ninkovitch and it was so hard to block him he had so much power so i always try
to become buddies with him yeah because i wanted to you know beef 100% for games on sunday
and I just can't pound my head against Ninkovich every day.
I already knew that.
So this is a trick I like by Mike Pyle because I would try to butter up Ninkovich
is that I spend all this money buying him dinner and beer and stuff like that
so he wouldn't take it out on me in the scrimmages.
Like that just explains how good Dick Buccas was and how Hardy played.
But do not put Ninkovic in the same sentence with Dick Buccas.
Absolutely not.
I was just putting him in the same sentence of how I buttered up.
Yeah, they're both from Illinois.
noise and how I just buttered up Nico's just because that's the only skill he had was coming
off the line and trying to hit me no that just no what do you mean that no I I I just say
don't give him credit he rags on us 24-7 yeah we can't get all with Nico too bad he might yeah he might
cry yeah he might get all sad I'll hang out with him next week he did he had more skills than just
coming off the line he actually had over 50 sacks in his career he did we hear about it every time yeah we
do. We do.
And the most force fumble, or the most
fumble recoveries or something I've done.
And the most underpaid white linebacker
defensive event ever play.
But no who wasn't under, well, Dick
Buckas was probably underpaid too.
Back in those days. He probably made $300 a
game. He really did.
Yeah, 1960s. Did he have a job out
of the season? Probably. That's how
it was back then. Remember we did the
day? Were you there with Coach Belichick where we did the
day where we were supposed to be from like the 30s or
something or the 40s where they took out like all the breakfast and they just gave you coffee
and like cereal and like people were smoking cigarettes in practice and stuff you know what I mean
did you remember that day no I don't I wonder what year that was we did like a time lapse thing
it was like a time lapse team building day where we were going to see how it was back in the day when
I think you were a rookie when this happened and I wasn't on the team yet no maybe it was the year you
left or you retired yeah i just wasn't there for it you weren't that one no it was it was pretty
crazy that they lived like that but let's get back to dick buckets okay he made it immediate impact
his rookie season five interceptions seven fumble recoveries and i just loved the way when he picked
up the ball you would just go full speed as well full speed and become a ball carrier he was just
so great to watch he was entertaining uh he had incredible career at illinois he's all-american played
center and linebacker i mean he had the size like i said he was
bigger than these offensive line at the time.
He looks like a football player.
He does.
He is, he's the definition of a football player.
One of the first guys to wear a bullring, I think, too.
Was he one of that?
That was like, that's, he made the bull ring for middle linebacker.
That, that was like a, if you were a badass middle linebacker, you had the bullring.
And I think it was because of Dick Buccas.
In 1970, 1970, we're talking a year after 1969.
I don't know why I just brought that up,
but I just kind of felt like I should have just popped up in my mind.
He signed a multi-year contract extension that remain in Chicago,
and the contract raised a salary from $50,000 per year
to around $80,000 to $100,000 per year.
And we're talking a complete football player,
and he was just making $100,000 a year.
But $100,000 back in 1970?
Yeah.
I mean, it was probably like, like,
million now maybe something like that we don't rob probably did the math yeah it was about two million
no it's about two million right there so he was all right he was fine he had money they didn't even
keep he probably didn't have to pay for a single thing though in the state of illinois no this guy didn't
know nothing even even his center was buying him beer yeah yeah this guy didn't have to pay for a thing
hey do you think he could have covered you jules no yeah i know i was watching him cover guys
that back in those days they didn't really have the athletic sense
He got his hands on me.
Yeah, he could have kind of pulled you.
They probably would have like probably like just tackled me.
Yeah, exactly.
And that would have been allowed.
Because he would have only had to tackle you in order to cover you.
But we would have smoked him back in day.
I saw him in coverage.
But I wouldn't say we would smoke him in the run game.
I think he would run right through us.
But man, in the past game, I would give it to us.
Chase Lyons running back.
Altie Taylor into the stands.
That's how scary this Joker.
is. Taylor told a reporter he thought Buckus was overrated. After Taylor stepped out of bounds to
avoid a hit in the game, Buckus kept chasing him all the way to the stands of Soldier Field.
I love it. I love it. Time. Dick Buccas, very player. And rest in peace to Dick, he passed away a few
years ago and we're talking about him to this day, one of the founding fathers of this league.
And thank you to Dick Buccas for, you know, setting the standard of what it is to be a football player.
Not an athlete out there and be a freak of nature.
A football player, just going out there and dominating on the football field.
Thank you, Dick.
I mean, he could probably be a bunch of these things.
He was such a huge dude, ran four, five, obviously has dog tendencies.
But I think it's one thing when you look at him.
it just stands out and like what i really like about him as well is that stash that he has
that stash just stands out to me and just made him that much more scary yeah so what kind of
duties on three one two three stud yeah he's got his center buying him beers uh he got that
stash that i just brought up i got to bring it up again because we didn't talk about it at all
I mean, just the way he can go from sideline to sideline.
And he's been the role model for every middle linebacker since.
Like everyone talks about Dick Buccas.
Ray Lewis talks about Dick Buccas.
Like Fred Warner probably talks about Dick Buccas.
I don't know if he does, but probably.
Probably.
Probably because that's how studly he was.
He's like what you look up, middle linebacker.
I would actually once say probably Fred Warner, he may talk about him,
but the position evolved a little bit,
and I would say Fred Warner's and the newer side of the evolving of the position,
guys like Ray Lewis, Brian Erlacker,
like those big studded guys that are true middle linebackers
that were there to stop the run.
Those are the guys that look up to Dick Buck's complete football players
just out there to smash fools that are carrying the ball.
I mean, he's like the originator of the linebacker in Chicago,
and they've had some hell of a line.
They've had elite linebackers,
Singletary, Erlacker.
I mean, the list goes...
Lance Briggs.
They got linebackers,
and he was one of the first.
He was one of the first.
Oh, wow.
Dick Buckus did tweet
before he passed.
And this is his tweet we found.
I love this guy even more.
I think it's great, Giselle,
let Tom Brady retire.
Hopefully she'll let him keep
Grob Grunkowski in the yard.
That's not him.
That's definitely not,
Buck is tweeting. It's got to be like his PR team or something or, yeah, a grandson or a kid,
but still, I really, really like that tweet. Like, it's just funny. What are some of those tweets?
Hey, Aaron Rogers 12. And if I'm allowed in the yard, which I still am, Jules, you're coming with me.
I'm not going to Tom's yard, you know, without Jules. I'll go in the yard. Yeah, but you're going,
like, we're not going without each other. No, no. And we're going to bring more people as well.
Yeah, we'll go in the yard.
And then listen to this one.
Hey, Aaron Rogers 12.
Help me get verified or more than your toe will be hurting.
He's a funny guy.
He is funny.
I actually do remember him.
He made a big splash on Twitter when he came on.
And everyone's like, dude, Dick Buckus is a must follow.
Like, this guy's legendary.
He's just throwing out quotes that are unheard of.
And I actually never followed him and never looked.
And now here we are to this day.
This is the most football treat right here.
All you need to do.
is score more points than the other team to win.
Sports are not that hard people.
Yes.
It's not that complicated.
That's why I love Dick.
I'm a simpleton.
Everyone knows that.
You know, I just don't love all the details
when it's just so unnecessary.
Dick, thank you for explaining the game of football that easily.
I totally understand what you're saying.
I do, too.
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Roberto.
Oh, thank you, Jules.
Cheers to you, brother.
Cheers, Bubbs.
Cores like cold as the Rockies.
Always blue.
And since we're dressed as referees today, as you can tell,
we're going to play a little game.
We're calling flag on the play.
Basically, we're going to go through some situations
that might go down in the locker room.
Then we're going to throw a flag if it goes down in the locker room
or then we're not throwing a flag
if it doesn't go down in the locker room.
For example, Jules, like not wearing flip-flops
in the locker room showers.
Like I'm throwing a flag on that
Throwing a flag because you want to be wearing
Flops in the locker room shot
That was an easy example
Let's get into it
Let's play this game
I love games I love activities
That's what I live for
Here we are news game of my life
Flag on the play presented by Corsesley
Here we go
You definitely got to get a little bit tipsy
For this one
Yeah
What do we got?
Making no attempt to cover up
In the locker room
Oh I'm already gonna go first
I'm a referee
And I'm gonna throw no flag
on myself because I'm always free-balling it.
I'm letting everyone see my junk.
Anyways, it's so tiny.
No one can even see it anyway, so I wasn't really worried about it.
Yeah, I mean, it's the locker room.
You don't have, it's pretty much anything flies.
Yeah, but you kind of want to wear a towel.
You wear a towel, but sometimes.
But not me.
Sometimes guys wouldn't.
I'm throwing a flag on you because you should wear a towel, Jules.
Why do I have to wear a towel?
Because you're very hairy and I don't want to see how hairy you're,
thingy is down there.
Yeah,
I get it pretty hairy down there.
Yeah, you're a squirrel.
Very.
Yeah, a furry squirrel.
All right,
let's go into the next one.
And plus,
like,
it's me.
Like,
I'm allowed to,
you know,
not cover up.
Rob does.
Time to get away.
With more rules.
Rob would just have,
like,
his towel around his freaking neck
and just have his tape
plushing that I,
I'm talking about
going to the shower
and not covered up.
Is that what the sneeze was for?
No. No. I just teased.
Oh, you just sneezed.
Next one.
So did you throw a flag on yourself?
No. I don't cover. I mean, I would cover up, but I wouldn't cover up.
No. Yeah. Okay, you cover up going into the shower. I take everything back. I'm saying we'll cover up going into the shower. But you won't cover up in the shower.
It's a locker room. Yeah. No. Like what locker room? Like, yeah, who covers up?
No one covers up. Yeah, no one. I mean, when you're in like middle school you do, you wear your shorts into the shower.
I didn't start showering with dudes until I got to call.
college we didn't do it in high school yeah it was hockey hockey hockey you did only growing up
as a kid all right how about it the next one taking your shoes off on the plane oh oh okay
so you're throwing a flag because you're allowed to take your shoes off on the plane right no
i'm throwing my flags because you're not allowed to take your shoes off when you go to the bathroom
but if you're in a first class seat and you have a lay down you could take your shoes off if the feet
aren't touching and it is still kind of dirty but i do take my shoes off if i like a lie down
seat but i'm not taking my shoes off if i'm standing or if i'm sitting the whole time yeah i like
to take my shoes off it like makes you go barefoot don't you no no i have socks on it let my
it lets my feet breathe but then i always put my shoes back on when i go to the bathroom so
am i throwing a flag here or not no no flag i'm a no flag guy i'm a no flag guy i'm taking my
shoes off but when it's time to go to the bathroom i put my shoes back on uh majority of the time
god yeah next time i get really like if you're really lazy you're tired tired and you and you're just
think in your head like yo like they just cleaned the bathroom before take off like i'm good i saw
them cleaning the floor i'm not gonna lie i just put that in my head i have for long flights internationally
I have brought flip-flops on my carry-on for that.
Not flip-flops, but like slides.
So, next one, sending gifts in team-related group chats.
Yeah, you definitely send gifts.
I send gifts on everything.
Yeah.
Especially on, who doesn't?
I think I threw a gift.
I think I threw a gift to Bill once.
Here's a gift.
Me throwing a flag.
Yeah.
that's a gif that's more like a jiff do you call it a gif or a jiff jiff is a peanut butter yeah same same
yeah no flag but it is a jiff it's a gif it's a gif do people say gifts or gifs yeah no flag i mean
everyone's sending gifts gifts are kind of what makes a response better than a real response that's
written out a gift explains more sometimes than an actual response 1,000% yeah and it makes it more
relatable when you'd use a gift majority of the time too when it's the right to
situation so gifts are always all out always even if it's not a group chat one on one
one thousand percent gifts are gifts are in play for everyone gifts are in play at all times no
flag on the play there how about doing a tic-tok dance in the locker room um oh yeah that's a flag
on the play because locker room it's like locker room talk it never leaves the locker room
same with anything else that goes on in the locker room if you're going to do a tic-tok dance
go do it on the field where you're going to do it on the field where you're
where the field is public to, you know, public eyes, parking lot, at the home, wherever,
practice field.
You don't do it in the locker room.
Whatever happens in the locker room stays in the locker room.
It should be the sacred place.
Yes.
It should be a sacred place.
Thank you.
Or sound and old.
Yes.
Because all these jokers are fucking tic-tokin in locker rooms.
Yeah.
I don't like that.
I don't like that at all.
That's a big time flag.
That's actually like two flags on the play.
It's like a personal foul and a hold.
No, that's a personal foul after a.
a that's a personal foul after a intentional grounding so it's a loss of down and you're getting
15 back yeah that exactly what it is how about sleeping in a team meeting got to flag that one
yeah you you got to flag it but I'm the referee that that saw it but didn't feel like throwing the
flag because because that guy just needs some sleep you know like because you don't want to be flag
like you like you when you fall asleep it's on accident it's not like you're walking into the
meeting room like i'm going to fall asleep like sometimes meetings are just boring and you fall asleep
so i don't want to flag the person especially you always try to wake your friend up before he gets the
flag yeah that's why i'm not throwing the flag but you're you're you're in coaching mind right now jules
that's why you threw the flag yeah but i also if it also you get a flag it's like it's like the
NFL. Okay. You only get the flag if you're someone important. Or if you're not, if you're someone
important, you get the flag or not it, you don't get the flag. But if you're someone who's not,
you get a flag. There you go. So rookies, you get flag sleeping in team. Not even rookies,
but guys that are trying, like not making plays or like fucking up continually or making mistakes.
You can't fucking sleep in there, bro. We need you. But if you just had a big game, 200 yards,
touchdown, you're allowed to sleep
because you need the rest so you can do it again.
So yeah, it depends on the situation.
That's a good referee.
Pletting the gameplay and using the flag
only when necessary.
Do business when business is being done.
You want to know when the flag shouldn't have been thrown?
This is a bad referee.
So say right there,
Julian, you fell asleep in the meeting room
and you had 200 yards that game.
You don't deserve the flag to be thrown on you.
Well, guess what?
Say the referee through the flag.
That's kind of the same scenario as the referee throwing the flag
on the past interference of Stefan Diggs
versus the New Orleans Saints two weeks ago.
That was one of the worst calls ever.
You don't throw the flag on that situation.
Even if it was past interference and it wasn't,
it was still a non-impact play.
It was over there on that side of the field
and Drake May threw it that way deep.
You don't throw the flag.
That's like throwing the flag on Julian
in a team meeting room after 200-yard game.
1,000%.
You know, the NFL is not even.
equal. I really like this game. The NFL
is not equal. Life isn't equal.
But it's fair. But it is. Life
is fair, but not equal. That's why
we love the NFL. The NFL is not equal.
Like life. But it's fair. That's what
Jimmy Johnson used to say. Yeah, like
life. You got to figure
out your trick. You got to figure out
what suits you.
Got to figure out what suits you. All right. What you do
best to help out. And not everyone
does the same. All right. I got
one. All right. Dude, I really
like this game. What about taking
the ox chord in mid
song.
Also, this goes in the same
category as last. This is
this is situational
flagging. Okay, if you
got a rookie up in the weight room
and he's fucking blaring his music
and you're about to come in and get
your fucking work in, you can go in
because you got ears on them
and you can put that thing whenever you want
but he can't do that. That's when the
flag is thrown. He comes in, you're flagging
him. You're flagging him. You're flagging them. You're flagging the
rookie that thinks he can control the music in the wait room.
Remember Mike Wiesick, the coach?
Every Monday.
Any rookie, he would just throw.
It was just like country music, right?
It was just like country music.
Slow country music.
That's when there used to be.
Oh.
So, yeah, situational flagging here.
That's situational.
Situational flag.
Cable midsong.
That's situational flag.
So we're going to throw a flag on that one, though.
Last one.
Slapping a teammate on the butt after a nice.
play that's that's that's that's that's called the league yeah that is that's football that's no
flag right there that's that's just saying hey buddy great job you're allowed to do that there's
no sexual harassment in this case on the football field it's just common knowledge that you can
slap other teammates butts after great plays now if you're just doing it out of random that could
definitely be a flag but after and after a nice play nice play no flag at all no flag at all
That's just masculinity.
Yes.
Now, what about slapping an opposing team guy on the ass?
That's a flag.
That's a flag, Jules.
Why would you do that?
Like, nice play to an opposing player or just doing it to do it?
See, both of those situations.
Flag.
Flag.
Flag.
Well, that was fun.
That was fun.
I love these games.
We got to do them more often.
Yeah.
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