Games with Names - Dudes on Patrick Mahomes, Fred Warner, and Tom Brady | Chiefs vs. 49ers

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Rob Gronkowski & Julian Edelman are getting on dudes from this Sunday's game of the week: the Kansas City Chiefs vs. the San Francisco 49ers. In honor of this highly anticipated matchup, we're talking the Chief's Patrick Mahomes, the 49ers' Fred Warner, and FOX's Tom Brady. We’re talking what it’s like to chug beers with a rookie Patrick Mahomes. We breakdown Fred Warner and the “new age linebacker."  Gronk and Jules talk about the most annoyed Tom Brady ever made them. Then we wrap it up by categorizing some of celebrity dudes using our patented Dude classification system.  Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Edelman. And this is the show where your favorite dudes talk about their favorite dudes. On today's episode we're talking about some serious dudes. Serious. We got Patrick Mahomes. Me. I mean good thing I didn't have a footlong, you know, in my hand when I met him. That would have been a little awkward. Fred Warner.

Me. I don't know what he was doing. I think he was smelling the grass. Whatever he did, he let you know the first player that practiced, he set a tempo. And the GOAT, Tom Brady. There's a lot of things Tom Brady did to piss us off, but it was all because he was the ultimate leader.

We'll break down their games, we'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. And then we wrap it up by categorizing some celebrity dudes. Matthew McConaughey, T. Swift, Snoop Dogg. Let's go! Let's go!

The Chiefs and 49ers game this week on Fox is going to be amazing. So we're going to be sticking to guys from this marquee matchup to talk about. All right. So first one. Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum Our first guy we're talking about. Well, Jules, I'll help you out. I'll put the little. There we go. Patrick LaVon Mahomes, the second. Should we start the clock? Remember, we have 10 minutes to talk about each dude to determine on what dude these dudes are. Let's start the clock.

Ready, set, go. Rob, let's start with AI. Patrick Mahomes is an elite NFL quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. Known for his incredible arm strength, agility, and leadership, leading his team to multiple Super Bowl victories. Few. Not a couple, a few. What, three Super Bowls? How many? Four? No, four Super Bowls he's been. He's been a four three time champion Jesus off the field He is admired for his humility community involvement and philanthropic efforts

particularly through his 15 and the Mahomes Foundation He's a guy for the kids Loves the kids just like myself. I have a rock Nation Youth Foundation. We guy for the kids. Loves the kids. Just like myself. I have the Cronk Nation Youth Foundation. We're for the kids. That's why I love Patrick even more now. He's for the kids.

When you're for the kids, you're a good dude. When you're for the kids, you're a good dude. Mahomes. Combination of talent, work ethic, and character has made him one of the most respected and influential figures in the NFL today. Wow. Tell you the truth. I don't think AI got it right. I mean, if I got it right, it would have been a page like of like

they didn't even say anything about his arm angle thing. Like everyone talks every human talks about this fucking arm angle. He can throw the ball sideways. He can throw it, you know, over the shoulder. Behind the back. Behind the back this year. He can throw it with his eyes closed. No lookers. I mean, Patrick Levan Mahomes II, he's a, he's,

why are you laughing? Patrick Levan. I love how you're just saying his middle name as well. I like Patrick Levan Mahomes II. It's a good sound. No, I got a story with him. So back when you were balling in 2017 Super Bowl against Philadelphia, Minnesota, I had to tour an ACL.

And so I proceed to go out and it's me, Cliff Kingsbury, his agent, Eric and Jacqueline, who was working with Cliff, whose Mahomes is marketing lady and this rookie, Patrick Mahomes. And we were all at this table at some party or some, I don't even know club. And Mahomes was just like the coolest little dude chugging beers. We're sitting back chugging beers. I didn't even know, club. And Mahomes was just like the coolest little dude, chugging beers, we were sitting back chugging beers. I didn't even really know who he was because they still had Alex Smith. This was the year that he sat behind him, right?

And no one knew who he was. And he was just, you could tell he was one of the dudes that you wanted to hang around. He's a fucking just good ass kid. He was like a little puppy there, man. He was just, yo, let's take a shot. He was like a little puppy there, man. He was just, you know, let's take a shot. You want another. And it's so crazy to see where his story's gone. I mean, he's a fucking he's a legend.

He's an absolute legend. He is a legend. I don't have a story like that. I just met him one time really quick. It was on the set of a subway commercial and I was shooting and then he was right after me. And I mean, good thing I didn't have a footlong, you know, in my hand when I met him, that would have been a little awkward. But when I went up to him, we kind of I just got out. Pants. How would you know that, Jules?

I shower with you 10, nine years. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For yeah, that's true. Yeah. Oh yeah. Forgot his brother's bigger though. Yeah. He has Dan G. Dan G has a monster piece. Dan G should represent something back to my homes. All right. So I just, you know, I was coming out of my trail. I just finished my set. Then he was coming on on the set. He was coming out of his trailer and then we just walked by each other. I just met him super quick for about 30 seconds. We just said, what's up?

I don't have a cool story like you, Jules, but he just seems like the ultimate do like a great guy, great teammate, person that, you know, that will never, you know, any like whatever get too big time for anyone. Like fame will never change this guy. I never like just the way he acts, the way he carries himself, which is great. And I feel like that's why he's loved by America. The chiefsman might not be loved by America, but there's no one that says, Hey, you know, I don't like Patrick Mahomes. I mean, if they don't like Patrick Mahomes,

it's because he is facing their team, you know, that week beating their ass. That is right. But overall, man, everyone loves Patrick Mahomes. They love his game. They love his personality. They love what he represents. And he's just the man, dude, just the way he plays the game as well. He's not scared. He has no fear out there on the fear on the field. I mean, he doesn't care if he's going to get hit by a linebacker hit by D lineman. Just his game just brings a whole new perspective to the fans in the NFL. Definitely. And like you said, his success hasn't changed him at all. You can tell how he handles himself in front of the media that he's such a team guy. Mm hmm. Like when you watch him, he never he never points fingers.

He only points thumbs. You know what I mean? He never he never says anything. He always puts it on himself And that's what a a leader that's someone that's someone who we played with that did that's what tom did exactly You know, I mean, that's why he you know, he's in that He's doing what tom shit I literally think patrick mc holmes and tom brady have the most similar careers out of like any other quarterbacks I mean they both sat behind another quarterback when they got into the league, which I think a lot of first rounders should be doing that. I mean, look how much, you know, mature Patrick Mahomes was,

you know, going in when he first started because he sat behind Alex Smith. He got to learn. And then when it was his turn, Daniel's yes, Jayden Daniels is, is the only one that I would say. Yeah, he's right, he's NFL ready. OK, good. But why you got to, like, there's an exception. But majority, I mean, majority of the time, it's better for a player, you know, a first round quarterback to sit.

You know, obviously, Tom sat behind Drew Pletso. Patrick Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith. And then when it was their opportunity, they were ready to go and they took full advantage and then they became the starter from there on out. Didn't Josh Allen sit behind? Wasn't Fitzpatrick there for a little bit early on? He was sitting, he didn't come out. Jules, we're not talking about Josh Allen right now. We're getting off track.

I know. But he... Like always though, he used to you getting off track. But you always get right back on track. That's why I love you. He's you just need someone there just whipping your ass at all times. Need it. Need it. Need it. I need it, too.

And it really is. He's really revolutionized the quarterback position. You could put him in that same category as like Steph Curry, who's changed the position. Now, Tom, he's just a sit in the quarterback, sit in the pocket type spot type quarterback. The best one to do that. The best one to do that. This is the first time where you've seen like the real, real athletic quarterback guy that

changes launch angles, guy that makes plays with like second plays within the plays really succeed and do what he's done and and it's made like you see the kid at Nebraska what's his name Dylan Raiola I mean you have now young kids trying to look identical to what Patrick Mahomes is doing and you see a lot of that you saw a lot of that with Aaron Rodgers and his play, how people emulated how he plays. You know, you look at how Jordan Love throws and all these younger quarterbacks, the Zach Willisons, their little jump passes

where they try to get that ground force production. Mahomes is also doing that. Now people are looking at Mahomes. He's that next generation where everyone of these little kids is really emulating, which is very parallel to what Steph Curry did the NBA. And what also the factor is with Steph Curry now is too, is that he can hit a three pointer

with a seven footer in front of his face with the best guard guarding him. While he can hit a three pointer off of one foot falling backwards on a fade away. That's kind of like Mahomes on the field as an NFL quarterback. He's doing no look passes. He's falling backwards getting hit.

He's still throwing it on target. What else he's throwing it underhand to the guy. So him and Steph Curry are very similar in the way that they can just release that ball and still get it to exactly where they need it to go and swish every shot still. It's unbelievable. Rob. What a fucking what that was a fucking three points.

That was a half court three point. I'm three point or take from down town. I'm heating up. That was a three point. I got a scouting report for freaking Patrick. What is this guy? I wrote a scouting report. He's crafty. He has great ability to extend plays, and that's actually what makes Patrick Mahomes possibly, possibly better than the goat in the end.

That's the only thing that I would say could possibly make him better than Tom Brady in the end is that he can extend plays to a whole another degree. But he's never going to be better than Tom. I mean, even if he is, I'll never say that because I love Tom. Also, I'm just saying the way he can extend plays. That's what makes the Kansas City Chief so good. He's about to be sacked and he just rolls out, spins off a defender. And then he throws it to Travis Kelsey or Tyreek Hill when he had him

or a no name seventh rounder like you, Julian, once again, making that seventh rounder famous like Tom did with you. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like me, Travis Kelsey famous like Tom Brady made, you know, myself famous, you know, throwing the balls to me. That's what that's what that's what. That's why these quarterbacks are great because they're making us famous as well. Make it as money. So what are you going to say? What were you going to say? I don't know. Good.

I forgot what I was going to say. It's also pretty cool that he has like in our situation, we never really had an offensive minded head coach and we never really got to see the tandem of head coach with offensive or with with quarterback. You know, like I think his relationship with Andy Reid is something really special as well. I think they can they can they can finish each other's sentences. Now, Brady and Belichick could do that, too. But I think when they finish each other's sentences, there's like a twinkle in their eye.

You know, like it's kind of like it's like it's like I'm the one who finishes the sentence. Yeah, yeah. See? No, but it just it I think, you know, for as much as the public is getting sick of the Kansas City Chiefs, it's guys like Patrick Mahomes. They got some really cool dudes at the top of that organization. Even Trav, man, he's a really cool dude. Definitely. Like, where you don't mind rooting for him. You know, they're great.

And I'm rooting for the greatness to see it. I mean, not crazy. Back to the scouting report. I had a couple more, you know, X factors on that scouting report. He has awesome vision. Obviously, he's creative. He's unflappable. You know what that is?

Jules, what is that? You know, like he just can't be tackled. He can't be stopped. Slippery. Yeah, he's slippery. There it is. He's slippery. Slippery and Yeah, he's slippery. There it is. Slippery and wet.

Shout out Bon Jovi. Kind of like Kamara, but as a quarterback. Kamara is slippery when he goes through that hole, like no one can get him and he just falls off of every tackle. Twinkle toeing it. He makes off schedule plays as well, which that's why the Kansas City Chiefs are so great and they have a chance in every game because of those off schedule plays. When you're supposed to be sacked, it turns into a 30 yard bomb. He's even keel.

He's never too high and he's never too low. No. Which that's how you need to be in the NFL. Cause the NFL has so many highs and so many lows. And if you can stay in the middle, that's a talent right there itself. Even when he's doing the whole, the one thing that it fucking cracks me up, what he does is when there's a penalty or something and he'll stick his little head in the referee fucking to huddle, it'd be like,

oh, and he does that little fucking hand wave, oh, it's on them, it's on them, it's on them. I get so mad when he does that, I don't know why. I know, and it's not on them. But he's kind of like influencing the refs. He's calm cool. It's on us. It's on us. It's on us. He like calm cool thing that you were saying. Go ahead. And most importantly, he's durable, durable. And if he's hurt, he still goes out there and he performs. He what in the playoffs, he had like the high angle spray. He played,

he just came right back out and just kept throwing bombs still. So a Superbowl. That's what makes a quarterback, a quarterback is when you're injured, you know, an elite quarterback, an elite quarterback is when you're beat up. So you're still going out there. And that's why this guy reminds me of Tom a lot. Yeah, a lot because Tom, hey, he would go out there no matter what the situation was. However, he was banged up. He would still perform and go out there and play to so many injuries.

No one knows about that. Tom played through because that's how good he was and that's what Patrick Mahomes does. He adjusts his game when he's hurt. Remember like with that the high ankle sprain what was that? That was their last two Super Bowls ago? It was the first one where he had the high ankle sprain. Two Super Bowls ago. And I was sitting there like this could be really bad and he had that really big run. He had a really big third down run that sealed the game, I think.

I'm coming off memory. And I was sitting there like, man, that's what competitors do. They don't talk. He didn't make it loud about his ankle, but when it was fricking nut cutting time, the do and out and he was an assassin made the play. He he always makes the play when his team needs him to make the play. And that's why he's considered the best quarterback in the league right now.

I mean, he's clutching big moments. There's no doubt about that. I mean, I don't think the Kansas City Chiefs didn't have my homes. They want to have, you know, one in in these situations that they've been winning. And I mean, the guy comes through every single time. They need a big play. And when the game is close, he manages to score or put them, you know, the offense and field goal position. So them buck or can just go out there and just kick a 70 yarder right through the middle and just win the game every time.

And it's crazy. It's crazy. It's a lot of their team is like very similar to ours. Very similar in all in all ways, if you really think about it. Great kicker. Yes. Best quarterback in the league. And then a lot of great tight best tight end in the league. Yes.

And you know, Travis kind of having he's getting a lot of the eyes right now his productions down. But then they always have some other guy. You know what I mean? That defense is well, defense is strong. Chris Jones on the defensive side is kind of like Devin McCordy and Dante Hightower. Like they're very, very similar. And then obviously Coach Belichick, Coach Andy Reed, very similar coaches. And you want to know where they're very similar as well from what I've heard.

Practice is they practice hard, practice hard. They practice hard. And in practice hard. They practice hard. And in New England, we practice hard. It made games easier if you were recovered for the game. If you were recovered for the game. I already made the game suck if you weren't recovered for the game. There was one time where he didn't come in clutch. When was that, Jules?

Was that when there was a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay that you were playing in? Yeah, but, you know, it was just an overall domination of the whole team. Yeah. Yeah. They were missing those linemen. Yeah, they're missing the linemen. And we just dominated, you know, a whole entire game. We dominated the offense, often side of the ball. We had a great game plan going in everyone. We had a script of like 80 plays and literally reran like all 80 of those plays to the exact

T that we wanted to. It went literally from practice and translated right into the game. Uh, and we were just checking Mark, checking off like every play that we ran and then we go to the next and every play was working. And on top of our defense was ready. We even got blown out versus them in the regular season. I think that was our last regular season loss too. And before we went on that, you know, eight game winning streak. But yeah, the defense, we just scouted them like it was nothing, dude. We were on Mahomes big time, but it really wasn't the homes as fault.

It was just a domination just overall as our team dominated their whole team in every aspect of the game. So my homes really didn't have a chance to, you know, perform like my homes. Yeah. Yeah. That's that. That was a that was a great game. That really was. And then on top of it, man, what about the frickin AFC Championship game? That's another time. Buffalo.

No, when we face my homes and AFC Championship game, man, the best AFC Championship game of all time, I believe. And it was our time to shine as well. And it was always a doubt. Hey, can the New England Patriots go on the road and win a Super Bowl? We never did. We never done that before. And that solidified us to be the dynasty, the dynasty of all dynasties.

Because we went into Arrowhead 2018, the Chiefs were the number one seed, sexy team. They were they were electric. And let me tell you, my homes didn't disappoint in this game. The reason why my homes lost is because he didn't have a chance in the playoffs in the not the playoffs in overtime. The touch the ball because we got the ball first and we went right down the field and scored it back on the field. I watched that game just now in Dallas with my nephew.

He put the game on the last five minutes of the game. Let me tell you, my blood was my heart was racing. My blood pressure was up because it was one of the best games I've ever seen. I haven't ever rewatched it either. And Jules, man, you came through in the clutch, boy. So did you know? Well, yeah, I did, too. But no, let me tell you, third and 10.

We did that a lot. The game's over. We're down by four. Oh, Rob, you know, just chip blocking the DN, giving Tom extra time. Tony Romo in the booth. Now, expect Julian Edelman to go up, you know, like he's running it under, then to go up like he's going deep,

and then to run across, or Tom Brady will hit him. It's third and 10. That's going to be the play. Boom. What happened? You go right across the middle on an over route. Boom. First down third and 10 again, Tony Roma expect Julian across the middle. Tom Brady is going to hit him. Expect Gronk to chip. Give Tom more time. Boom. Hit Julian

up the fricking middle once again for another first down. And then Tony Roma again. Well, this time Gronk is spread out. wide. Let's see what he can do. It's third and third is pretty on it. Guess what? He just has to go to Gronk. It's one on one coverage. He's not going to look anywhere else. What happens? Whoop, fade route first and 10, baby. Let's go, baby. You came through clutch so much. You had a heck of a playoff run that that year as well.

That was a fun year. And that was kind of the passion of the torch for Tom to to Mahomes. You know, it was kind of like for at least that matchup. Tom played him again in Tampa. But like that was like a different one because that was like, that was the road to the AFC championship was always through us. And it went to them, Tom had to say right before he left the conference, say buddy, there's a hell of a run.

You'll always remember me. You'll always remember you didn't win when I was here. And as soon as Tom left that little motherfucker, he's been winning the balls ever since. So Patrick Mahomes, what kind of time? We went way over. It's Patrick Mahomes. Oh, my gosh. We're at 20 minutes. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I felt like 10 minutes.

The guy is one as a starter from the very beginning. He's a fucking guy. No losing seasons. He's all right. We're talking about he's on pace to be. We're only supposed to talk about him for 10 minutes, but it's been like 20 minutes. But we could talk about my homes for the next two hours. Three really wanted to. There's so many crucial situations. So many situations he's been in where he has come back and just made magic happen.

He should be right here one day and we should have a beer with him. That's the kind of guy he is. Yeah. But we got to get to this. What kind of dude, you know, is Patrick Mahomes? I kind of feel like we kind of went over it and already hit it. But is he a stud? Is he a freak? Is he a dog? Is he a whiz? Is he a dude's dude? I mean, I feel like he represents in all these categories. But what is he? What one does he most exemplify? I think two right now that are coming to three are coming to me right now freak dog and dudes dude Freak dog and dudes do I mean the guy's a wizard though any Yeah, he's a wizard and he's wizard basically recreated the offense because of him

He basically recreated how you I'm gonna go with the quarterback What but what I'm really thinking, I'm definitely going to go with one of the three that you hit. Maybe Patrick Mahomes deserves two of them because he's just that good. But we can't do that. Can't break the form for no one. And what's so great, he is a freak.

And he's a freak with a dad bod. But that's the advantage is that a quarterback, here's my big take on quarterbacks is if you're jacked, you're going to only have like three years in the NFL. If you're coming out in your jacket coming out of college, I'm not even bring up any names, but I can name so many that these quarterbacks are jacked. They can bench so much that your arm is going to fall off because you're too tight after three years. That's why this guy is so great because he has a dad bod and when you have a dad bod, you're looser than frickin he's a fucking dog.

A loose cannon. Yeah. Yeah. He is a dog. He is a dog, but he's a freak dog. Yeah, he is. So can he be a freak, freaky dog? Or is he just a whiz? He just clutch. Nah, he's more than a whiz though. Whiz is like someone that's really smart that keeps them in the league longer because they're not a freak. So you can't give them like a whiz. You can't give them whiz.

Nah. But I think he's a dog. He is a dog. Because mental, physical toughness, always motivated, relentless. There's so many freaking, there's so many third downs that we don't even talk about that he converted when it was his team needed it. That like made a drive more or that took an offense off the field or kept an offense off.

There's so many of those situations that he's a fucking dog. He's an assassin. He will murder your team. All right, Jules, like I said, we can talk about him for the next three hours. We got to put him in the category of a freak or a dog. What is he? All right, you got three seconds to decide. Freak. He's a freak. He is a freak. There's only one Patrick. He's a friend. I know that the little kid out in Nebraska,

he got the shades, the haircut, the same damn walk and clap and stuff. There's only one of those. He's inspiring. He is, man. He's a freak. Freak of nature. All right. Stamp it.

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On to Cincinnati on to our next guy. All right, here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, please put your hands together for a warm welcome to our next Dudes on Dudes. Dude that we will be talking about. Fred Warner. Fred Warner. Friderico Anthony Warner. Panamanian Mexican.

All right. Here we go. My he's a fucking dog. Just go synopsis. My synopsis right here. That's a big word. And let me let me tell you, I just hit a synopsis on Fred Warner. Here we go. I say, Robbie, Fred Warner is a standout linebacker for the San Francisco

49ers, known for his exceptional tackling and leadership on the field. Off the field, he's admired. He is admired for his dedication of. Hold on. Off the field, he is admired for his dedication of... Hold on. Off the field, he is admired for his dedication and humility, often crediting his single mother for his success. Warner's journey from Michigan Hills High School to the NFL is inspiring,

showcasing his hard work and perseverance. Man. Man, man, dude, Federico Anthony Warner. What what AI do we use? I feel like we use like we like weak AI. Like this AI is like, I mean, it's like the broken, like the electronics are sparking like type of AI because like last week when I had the AI printed out, let me tell you for our first couple episodes that was a description. We need we need we got to work on AI.

Yeah, because I didn't didn't come close to describing what this guy is on the field. You know, I love the story about, you know, come where he came from and you can you could see what that passion how he plays on the field. I remember watching him. I went to that that Raiders 49ers training camp last year. They had a joint practice and I was out there real early.

I was visiting the Raiders when McDaniels was over there. Don't like let's not get in the comments section about that. And I yeah, yeah, no, no, the comments sections right here. I thought you're a patriot for life and then you're over with the Raiders. You know, I just said the practice is more of the hate for Josh. I was talking like, all right, we don't need to do. We don't need to hear that right now. All right. All right. But I look, I go out to practice early and there's one guy out there

at the very beginning. It's Fred Warner and he there's the two fields and he's one guy out there at the very beginning. It's Fred Warner and he there's the two fields and he's over on the far field. I don't know what he was doing. I think he was smelling the grass doing some kind of weird war dance or something. But whatever he did, he let he let you know the first play of that practice. He set a tempo, man. And that's the kind of guy he was. Like I was like, this dude is doing some like predator shit.

That's fucking fire. I like this guy more than anything. I found out he's Mexican. He plays for my old team that I love. Like I love this guy. And then I've met him a couple of times. He's just a fucking, like the AI said, he's a stand up dude that's very, got a lot of humility,

but he's also an assassin on that field, man. He sideline to sideline. You played against him a bunch. How was he? Actually, I never actually played against the San Francisco 49ers in my life. I was hurt the two or three times when we did play the 49ers, which was a disappointment. I mean, I wish I truly played against every team in the NFL. I wanted to play in every stadium in the NFL. He's played him in Bucs with the Bucs, no? No, we never played the 49ers. Mm-mm, man. So I think that's the only team in the NFL

I never played, so... But let me tell you, I was just covering him. It's the only team that didn't get scored on by Gronk. I was covering him this week. And let me tell you, I had to cover Fred Warner because he made a couple plays. And they had a couple plays and they had a couple turnovers and he had the biggest play of the game on the defensive side of the ball.

Oh shit jumped up in the air and had that interception versus Jacobi. And it literally just showed like his freak athleticism on that play because he had to jump in the air like a wide receiver is about, you know, a couple like 30 inches off the ground, solid vertical jump. And then he had a, he landed on his back and then he popped up immediately. Like his awareness is a 10 out of 10. To be a defensive player and to have hands like that. And then to have the awareness to get up

in that the play is still alive. There's wide receivers in the game that catch the ball and fall to the ground and still think it's college and the plays over and then they drop it on the ground and then it's a fumble. Not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not

not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not 20 seconds to pop right off. He said that on air. What do you do? I said it on air. He popped right up in literally a half a second, joked some guys and ran it back for a pick six. Pick six. It was, it was, it was kind of the nail in the coffin at the beginning of the game where you knew it was going. And that's, and that's, he makes those plays all the time.

Now, you know, he's been a very durable player and he may got a little banged up on the sideline, but he looked like he was all right But I remember I I was watching you do the highlights on fox halftime show and I was like thinking like He did fucking just catch that ball and get up and go And and was instinctive and like when defensive guys get their their ball their hands on the ball

Sometimes you see him carrying the ball like a loaf of bread. He looked like a big ass running back and then he got that pop Warner. He got that pop Warner arch in his back, you know, when you get tired at the end and then he jumped it, you get that pop Warner arch. When you got the kid who's running away, you got the pop Warner arch. Talking about that, you know, pop Warner, he had to play offense at some point in his life to be able to catch a ball like that and then to be able to run like that after the catch. I mean, he had to play like running back, freaking slot receiver, something growing up and he played at BYU actually, you know, a star right there from

the very beginning of my first game. I overlooked to it. Yes. Yes, he did. And my first game ever was actually versus BYU. That was just a fun fact. I was thrown out there. We actually won. They were number, I think 20 in the country when we beat them and I beat BYU in a bowl game as well. The first bowl game for Arizona, zero touchdowns, but my brother had one. I only had like, it was my last

game actually at the university of Arizona. And it was the first ball game in 10 years for the University of Arizona. It was the Vegas ball. We won there. What was most important was I was in Vegas at 19 20 years old. Was it fun? Yeah, it was fun. It was really fun. I was still too young though, so I didn't really get to experience Vegas like that. I was trying to you know, know I was trying to. I was trying my hardest. What was in that gift bag? The gift bag? Oh, shit, I don't know, dude. That was like 15 years ago. I never went to a bowl game, and I always wanted to know. Yeah, you went to Kent. I always wanted to know, because you'd hear about, like, guys go to the bowl games and get, like, an Xbox.

PlayStation. We got a PlayStation. See, you got a fucking PlayStation. And I actually sold it. What was that website? Craigslist? My friend sold it for me. No, it was Nintendo Wii. My friend sold it to me, because I had sold it. What was that website? Craigslist. My friend sold it for me. No, it was Nintendo Wii.

My friend sold it to me because I had no money. I was like, yo, I don't really play video games. We actually had one system already. We played Halo 24 seven on an Xbox. I was like, I don't need this Nintendo Wii. He sold it for me on Craigslist for the amount that it goes for in stores. I threw him like 50 bucks and I had like another $200 to buy people beer. You know what?

I bet you if the NCAA knew about that, he would have got fucking fine. He would have been, he would have been not fine. What would you have? You're allowed to sell a gift. Are you? But that sounds crazy. I mean I sold it like two months after. You're out here selling wheeze and you go to a college players fucking the players lot now. All you see is

Lamborghinis these little fucking college kids. It's crazy. Rob's over here trying to get $50 from a Craigslist. All of his all I knew was 15 bucks a week. And I was satisfied. It got the job. What did it get you? It got me a 30 pack and it got me lunch. That's all I needed. That's all I needed, folks. Protein shake

in a 30 pack. Protein shakes and beers. No, did you just get the protein shakes back at the facility? Well, actually, yeah, yeah, I got the protein shakes at the facility and a dinner, which I would bring back as well. We would like stack up the to-go's so then we would have kind of like an actual lunch or a dinner that night. The next night as well, just in case if we need some backup food, beers and, and, and the food. But dang, I forgot. Oh, oh, I now I know why I had no money. That's where I was going. I had no money in college because my brother and I, we pulled all our money together. I was left in our bank account.

We bought a hot tub the first three weeks here at the University of Arizona. Literally we drained our bank accounts. They were at zero dollars. Yep. Yeah, that's us. Yeah. The guy, I mean, back to Fred Warner, I mean, the guy 2021, he had a record breaking contract five years, $95 million. He reset the linebacker markets. All you other linebackers out there. Thank Fred Warner. $40.5 million guaranteed. I mean, the guy was a superstore. What was his first purchase? I'm not sure. I feel like he's a reserved, you know, guy and people should be looking up to him for sure off the field and on the field. You don't even see no bling. What was my first purchase?

That's a good question. What was your first when you got your first paid or your when you got drafted, what was your first purchase? My first purchase, I've always wanted an Escalade. So I actually bought a used 2008 Escalade and they had thirty thousand miles on it and it was the red the red one. And I just thought I was so freaking cool, man. It had the rims and everything. It was the best car of all time I've ever had.

So I got to get an Escalade again, man. It's been a while. That was my only of all time I've ever had so I gotta get an escalator again, man It's been a while. That was my only escalator. I've ever owned I had it for about four years and I gave it to my mom cuz I'm good guy like that You know, but um great car man. That was my first purchase. How about you Jules? What was yours? I bought a laptop Laptop that's my sani bonus was 48.5. Bro. How's it? I didn't think I was My signing bonus was 48.5, bro. I was like, I didn't think I was gonna make the team. I bought a fucking Apple laptop, like one of the new Macs. I still have it.

You were getting ready for your next job, actually, when you bought it. You were like, I'm not gonna make this team. I didn't know. Maybe I'll be an accountant. Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, trading for Greg Lewis. You defied the odds, Jules. Just get a laptop. You defied the odds, Jules. Just get a laptop. You defied the odds.

All right. He's only missed one game in his six year career. Terrible, reliable. That's crazy for the middle linebacker. It is. It's like some London Fletcher. Started every game as a rookie. You know how hard that is to do?

That is. Did you start every game as a rookie? No. Did you even play as a rookie really? Yeah, well West Tour is ACL. Oh well. And then I. That's not the reason I was looking for it, Jules. That's sad. Well yeah.

I didn't start as a rookie. Not until like week 10, because I didn't know the playbook. I started week two at the old giant stadium. We lost, but I had like nine catches in 109 yards. Well that's more important then. No. But it was like my first time ever. I had like nine catches in 109 yards. Well, that's more important then It was like my first time ever I was like, holy shit

Wes was out and then Wes came back and balled out and then I didn't play for a long time Well, we're at 11 minutes now. These guys are just so great. We can talk about him for what 30 minutes 45 minutes an hour But where does he rank an all time Niners on the defense side of the side on the defense side of the Patrick Willis? They always have been saying Patrick Willis is a Hall of Famer now. He won in the Hall of Fame. I think this year.

Am I right? Last couple of years or last year. Yeah, he's in the Hall of Fame, though. So you got Patrick Willis, Ken Norton. I believe if the San Francisco 49ers can finally win a Super Bowl, I mean, they got a stack team. They're going to obviously be having a chance to win one. I think he's going to be right up there in top three on the defensive side of the ball. Bryant Young.

Oh, you're going to have a field. You're going old school now. You're the Niners fan, so you grew up in the Bay Area. So you can, you can name everyone on the defense. As much as the Niners, as much as the Niners, Ronnie lot, Ronnie lot, even right. Oh, no, that was Eric Wright's son. I used to run track against him. All right. I would say he's a, he's a top five defensive player of all time.

How about you? What would you think? He's on his way to be on his way. He's got about another five years minimum left. Yeah, he's on his way. Those I mean, there's he's on his way. If he plays five more years and wins a Super Bowl, he's easily if they win a Super Bowl, he's he's he's in there. It's in there.

But the thing is, the Niners get this big rap about how sexy their offense is. They've had some dog ass fucking defensive players. Like you said, Ronnie Lott, Dana Stellofield, Bryant Young, Ken Norton. He used to fucking Merton Hanks. Like they used to have some dogs over there, bro. Like, oh my God. You can't forget about the BOSA. BOSA?

The BOSA guy. They have so many, they still't forget about the BOSA. BOSA. The BOSA guy. They have so many, they still have crazy guys on their own team. Deion Sanders was there, but he was there for a year. I didn't even know Deion Sanders played for the Niners. Yeah, he went, he won a Super Bowl with them. That's a fun fact I just learned.

He won a Super Bowl with them, and then he went to- He won a Super Bowl with the Niners, Deion Sanders? And then he went to Dallas next year, won a Super Bowl. I mean, I was young, man. I was a young boy. What year was this? 94, 95. I mean, I was young, man. I was a young buck. What year was this? 94, 95. I mean, I was five years old.

That's why. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got to get into the categories. What kind of dude is he? What kind of dude Fred Warner is? Is he a stud, which is athleticism, football IQ, pedigree of being a stud?

Or is he a freak, which counts as, you know, unparalleled physical ability, one on one instincts. I mean, or is he a dog which is relentless, motivating, all that good stuff, physical and mental toughness? Or is he a whiz kid? Does he know the game intellect of the game, the innovation of the game? Is he clutch or is he a dude, dude, dude? What's a dude dudes dude? What's the dudes dude dudes dude is positive attitude locker room guy? Guy guy that you hang out with on the field off the field at dinner family guy just

Everything overall calm cool collective. That's a dudes dude. So I I think What categories do you think he's in? I think he's definitely, what are the, like? For his athletic ability, I'm gonna go either on the side of being a stud or a freak. Stud or a freak? I was thinking stud or dog. I think he's just a stud, cause he's.

If you said stud or dog and I said stud or freak, what does that have in common? Well, if it was a Venn diagram, I think stud would be in the middle part. Yes, it would be. So I think he's a stud. You go to those two circles and the ones that overlap. I heard that recently, probably back to eighth grade.

Is there any numbers in that Venn diagram that I can calculate? Well, there was like six numbers in this one and three and four were over in this side. And then it went over to three and four when there were six numbers in this and the three and four were over. And they both inter- it would be those the three and the four. Alright. I think he's a stud. I think he's a stud. Yeah, he's a stud. I don't know what the heck you were just drawing up. I don't know what your imagination was thinking.

Then diagram. But all I know is that Fred Warner is an absolute stud of a linebacker in the NFL. Stud pedigree of the middle linebacker right now in the NFL. It was like it used to be like Luke Keakley, Earl Acker, right now, Fred Warner's up there. And there's a bunch of other guys that are in that category. We'll get into them this year, but he's definitely in that category. He's a stud.

And what's crazy about it too, is that he's kind of like the new era, Mike linebacker as well, because all these, all these offenses were turning the passing offenses. So you need a guy that could it be able to cover and also stuff the run. So you kind of needed a more athletic linebacker and that's what he represents. And that's why he got paid the way he got paid.

And that's why everyone looks up to him at the linebacker position, especially the mic because back in the day you had Mike linebackers and they were, you know, 250 pounds, 260 pounds, 270 pounds that can just stuff the hole and stop the run. But they can never really cover that well in zone defenses. Yes, they can fill the hole, you know, and make a couple plays. But this guy can cover as well. Sideline to sideline fast, but he also doesn't doesn't lack in the in the lower end

apartment. He still brings the wood, the heat. Yes. So he's just a fucking stud. And he's the first one to do that in the new era when the passing offenses just kept growing and growing. Patrick Willis was like that a little bit, too, though. Like it's I think it's his Niners. These Niners know how to get that damn linebacker. Mm hmm. They sure do. So do the Ravens. Ravens dos do too. Patrick McQueen and shit, but they let him go. All right, let's go on to our next

Bum bum bum sure we're gonna go for more than ten minutes. We've already went for more than ten minutes Who's our next guest Tom? I mean, oh wow All right, who's our next guest Julian. Our next guest, Julian, our next guest is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady. Now, let's see what I has. What to say about TB. Two guys that know him pretty well. Let's see if I knows him just as well.

I started the clock. Let's see. Let's see if I is really living up to the standards. Let's see. Everyone is really living up to the standards these days. Let's see, because these last two. Everyone's saying. Last two, AI. All right. Tom Brady is a legendary NFL quarterback. Well, they're already wrong because he's not a legendary NFL quarterback. He was an NFL legendary quarterback.

Or is he, does AI know he's, does Tom come out? Is it? AI, AI knows something that we don't know. Oh my God. AI is living up don't know. You're right. AI is living up to the standard. Dolphins. Ah, dolphins. Kyle Shanahan still wants him with the Niners,

even though Brock Perry is legit. Maybe AI is up to something right now. AI is up to something. What does AI say? He's renowned for his record seven Super Bowl victories and five Super Bowl MVP awards. Wow. Off the field, he is known for his disciplined lifestyle.

Very disciplined. TV 12 method. Businessventures.com slash. Business ventures. Lot of business ventures, owns teams. Lots of teams. Raiders potentially coming up soon. And philanthropic efforts.

Lot of giving back to the kids, best buddies for a long time. Yes, and what about the kids, he helped become superstars. Yeah, he helped us out too, we're part of that. That doesn't go in the philanthropy, that's not philanthropy, but we'll take that. That's his biggest philanthropy right there. It was. Definitely.

Okay, helping us kids out. He helped us a lot. All right. Now, including his work with the TB12 Foundation, which you just mentioned, Joel. TB12 Foundation. Brady's leadership. He's a leader. Resil leadership. He's a leader.

Resilience. Guy's fucking resilient. And commitment. Come on, Jules, is he committed? This guy is committed like no other. To excellence have made him an iconic figure. Is he iconic? Fucking, he's got aura.

The most iconic. Guy's got aura. Iconic figure both in sports and infinity and beyond. I can't believe AI didn't, one thing that AI didn't get, this guy's, his compartmentalization skill, his compartmentalization skill, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power,

he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's got a lot of power, he's that AI didn't get, this guy's, his compartmentalization skill is fucking outrageous.

That's what I, when anyone asks me, like, what is, he could literally have so many things going on in his life. But when it was time for work, he could blur all that out and think about what that workday was and fucking get the most out of that workday every day. Which some would say that's like a serial killer or some kind of maniac mindset. I would say that's like the greatest of all time. Yes, Jules, that's a great point. I actually never thought of that.

And that's 100 percent accurate. And that's actually. Contributes to why he was so great is that he could ignore the noise, whatever is going on out there, whatever the situation was. I mean, better. It didn't matter. And he would. Yeah, he would use that anyways. He was using as fuel. It would be diesel fuel. It would be normal, normal fuel race for a super oxygenated fuel. It didn't matter.

It's one oh one. You only a few gas stations have that fuel fill up that engine. And he had diesel engine. He had frickin premium engine. He had every engine in the book jet engine. And that's what made him so great. And he used that fuel and he burned all that fuel, too. This is probably Terrell. There's so many.

He burned so much fuel that he killed literally so much of the ozone layer that he's a fucking hazard to our environment, because that's how much fuel he burns. With the motivation and his compartmentalization factors. That's how much fuel he's burning. And that jet was full go every single time. You know when you get on a plane,

you're like, this freaking pilot better drive this plane or fly this plane as fast as possible. Or drive it to freaking on the runway to get to the runway to freaking take off ASAP. So fly it and drive it as fast as possible. That's this guy. And he's got headwinds. So you're actually using more fuel. Yeah.

And the fuel never ran out. It the guy has fucking airplanes that come out while you're flying. Have you seen that where they use the fucking piece and while they're flying in the air, Air Force One, they're connected. He's got that on unlimited. Yeah. And that is Alex. Alex is the little airplane.

Alex is the little airplane. He's the little airplane. That connects though. That connects. Yeah. Oh man. Oh man. He just has so much fuel.

Oh. I mean. Oh, that was so good. That was so good. There they are. Look it, there's Alex and Tom. Alex and Tom. Alex is fueling Tom up.

Wow. Hey. Wow. And that's something to have, and that's a love thing out of Alex cause he keeps him going. Keeps him going, man. Well, let's get to some accolades. I mean, first he was, he was one ninety nine six round in the 2000 draft.

I mean, I'm sure everyone knows that by now. He was with the Patriots from 2000 to 2019 and then with the Bucks, 2000 to 2022. And actually, I just got a quiz on him. How many years did he play in the NFL? And it was right before I talked to him two weeks ago on Fox. Kurt Menafi asked me, we played a little live game. Hey, how well do you know your teammate? Tom Brady goes, how many more years to Tom Brady playing the NFL than you and I played 11 years. And I thought Tom Brady played 24 years. I actually got it wrong. He played 23 years in the NFL. So shame on me, but it was better to be over on that than the hit it right on the nose. But that's how many years he played is that I just know it was so many. I couldn't even keep track anymore. He played 11 years more years than he played 11 years more than you and 12 years more than me.

That is fucking gnarly. I played 12. I played 11 years in the NFL and he played more years in the NFL than I played in the NFL. He, that without me. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Like if you, I don't know what that's called, but that's a math term. Yeah. That's called uh. The hole. That's called goat. That's fucking goat. Yeah. That's called jetat. That's fucking goat goat. Yeah, that's called jet fuel. Alex is jet fuel. Alex is jet fuel. Yeah. What was the first time you met Tom? The first time I met Tom was actually what was pretty wild when I was at the University of Arizona.

You know, I was doing my interview at a couple of touchdowns that game. I was showing off my touchdown celebrations and then the lady interviewing me, she's like, who do you see being your quarterback in the NFL? And obviously right on the spot, I go, Tom Brady would be the best quarterback to have in the NFL and especially a great fit for me. And that was just the answer, you know, and then I did my touchdown dances and all that. And then what happens?

I get drafted to the Patriots and Tom Brady. Becomes my quarterback in the NFL. It was like I manifested it when I was in college. I manifested a lot of things and if you ask Tom, Tom's probably really big into manifesting as well. He manifested all his Super Bowls because right after he won his Super Bowl, he would already have a clock counting down

to the next Super Bowl. So he was manifesting like crazy. You just learn so much knowledge from him. And he's done so many things right. To be able to get to, you know, nature of where he is now, it wasn't like he just had the athletic ability. He showed up. He did everything right. And he put the time in that you can never argue against him.

Can't you can't have We'll give you an option. So let's get let's get back to what was I talking about again? I don't know. I just got this. Yeah, I got a little first time you met him. Oh, the first time I met him. It was in the training room. I was getting my ankles taped and he walked in. So I was there already for the rookie camps, the rookie practices,

and he just walks up to me. He goes, Hey, Rob, I'm Tom Brady. And I was like, Oh, wow how this guy already knows my name. I mean, that's also what makes him so great as well is that he already knows all the rookies names, all the guys that were drafted, what rounds they were drafted in, what type of player they already were, because he wants to know, you know, their athletic ability, you know, what type of guy they are so he can

understand them so he can be on the same page as the best out of them so he can get the best out of them as well like you said and he could have that connections to help win games so he can be on the same, you know, wavelength as them so he already knew my name. And that was the greatest honor, to shake his hand while getting my ankles taped. And then he goes wins four Super Bowls with him. That's crazy. I had a similar story. Yeah, what was it like when you met him? What was that story? I was going from, like you said,

we were already in there. When you're a rookie, you get in there before, back in our day, you get in there before the vets Reported and so you'd be there for like three weeks did rookie camp and learn Installations of everything and so I had a big book. We all had these books. It was like a five inch Remember those old dull binders before we had iPads. We used to have big old binders I didn't like carrying them around. I left mine in my locker when I went home. Yeah.

Even though you were supposed to bring it home to study, I was like, I ain't carrying that binder. I used to carry it. Yeah, you did. I do. I was trying to make a goddamn team. You had to. You had to.

So I'm over here getting five minutes before the special teams meeting. It's true. And I'm running through and the vets came in and I saw the vets coming because I saw well in the In the cafeteria didn't say a word to me. I was But I wanted big-time do big time me a little bit. That's okay. He had a leather jacket on him now He looks cool. He looks like when you guys big time each other. It's entertainment for me All right back to time though

And so I knew they were in but I was going to my meeting and he walks through the door, you know the entrance, the locker room from the hall? He walks in there and he goes, like look at him, I drop my book. I'm like, oh shit, this dude's taller than I thought. And he goes, hey, I'm Tom. I go, Jules. He goes, I know, we have the same agent.

Dragon's my agent too or something like that. And then I was like, nice to meet you. And you could, I have the same agent. Dragon's my agent too, or something like that. And I was like, nice to meet you. And you could, I felt the same way you felt like, damn, he knew my name. That's fucking crazy. But he knew that, he knew everyone's name and he made everyone feel special. And that was part of his leadership skill.

You know, like what made him such an unbelievable leader. From the meal ladies to, you know to the people in the equipment room, the training staff, it didn't matter what was going on, how the day went, he was always a pretty cool dude to everyone and everyone was always watching him. You know what I mean? And that's when you're the quarterback of the team, everyone no matter what is going on in your life is watching that person and to see how they react to everything.

The success, the failure, your eyes go to that guy, you know, and he was the perfect guy for us, especially when we were young knuckleheads to look at like, all right, this is how you have to do it. He gave you the example and he was just a fucking he's he gave us the blueprint on how to become a reliable, talented. You know, player that you needed to be to help the team win games. He gave us the blueprint on how to become a star out there on the field. He gave us the blueprint on how to make plays, how to go out there and have that mindset ready to go and also be mentally mentally and physically ready at all times on the practice field

and on the game field. There's no doubt about that. And he didn't just give you the blueprint. He showed you the way to showed you. Yes, he showed you, hey, this is where I want you on this route. This is when you need to look at me. This is where the ball is going to change you. Yes, he trained you to be, this is where I want you on this route. This is when you need to look at me. This is where the ball is going to be. Trained you.

Yes, he trained you to be like that. Like a little puppy. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. Oh, you want to take a break? Hey, man, I'm telling you, your mind will let you go farther. Let's go. Four more routes.

Let's go. You got to be able to be on the same page as me. You got to be right here. Be more physical. Be more physical. You're bigger than everyone. Run his ass over and turn around and the ball will be there. I promise you. And if you don't hit that guy, if you're not physical, guess what?

The ball's not going to come to you. He would just lay it out just like that. His leadership was just...what's that word where it's just... Brutally honest? Yes, brutally honest. And that's what made him so great, too. So, like, with him, that's what he always harped to gronk. With me, I remember in those, because a lot of times we would get that coaching in the off season when we'd go fly out somewhere,

we would throw together, you know, because there's times where you would do it, there's times where I would do it. He would always try to get his throws in with his guys. And for me, he'd always come up to me and be like, hey, I need you to be here. I need you to be like a boxer. You know, you can't be, you can't just

do what the thing shows you on the paper. You have to feel it out. You gotta set things up with your jab and then you use your right. You know, it's like a boxer. You gotta be more savvy in your route running. That's how I remember you saying that. And then he'd always say like,

you gotta run like a fucking, you gotta be able to run your route running. That's why I remember you saying that. And then he'd always say like, you gotta run like a fucking, you gotta be able to run. You gotta be able to run all day. And like you said, when you were tired, we would do those sets of routes. He'd make you do three or four extra ones. And he would say, you'd line up and you would think that the drill was done. And he would say, oh, there's offsides on a panel

on your teammates, or there was a holding call or P I, or we got to redo it. And he knew you were dog dead, but he wanted to see, he wanted to get everything out of you. When you were on empty, he wanted to see what kind of guy you were and he wanted to show you that's what he expected in game time. And a word that you could have used in there as well. That kind of sums it up a little bit is he loved a decisive route. Decisive, decisive. He didn't care if the paper said run 10 yards and run out. He didn't care one bit.

He cared about being decisive on the practice field and taking that decisiveness and bringing it to the game field. He goes, Hey, if you're going to run 12 yards, even though it's a 10 yard route, or if you're going to run eight yards and it's going to be a little short, just be decisive. Let me know when you're going to break out. Let me know when you're going to break down

so I can get that ball out and I can read you. I don't need you to have 15 steps where you're slow. I think you're going to go to the left and then you go to the right side. No, be decisive. If you're decisive, I will find you and that ball will be out and it will be right on point. That's what he said.

What's the biggest misconception of him? You think the biggest misconception of Tom Brady? I think is that he's cool. Is that? Yeah, he is cool. No, I think that's the biggest misconception. He's not that cool. Depends.

That's the misconception right there because he's cool when he's comfortable He's cool, but no, he's comfortable in the situation. He's not cool when he's comfortable. I think when he's around us He's kind of like a dork Yeah a little bit and then when I mean to the everyone else he's the coolest guy which I still think he's the coolest guy Yeah, but then when you have him around you're like, he's really kind of, which I still think he's the coolest guy ever. But then when you have him around, you're like, he's really kind of a dork. There's some situations where, you know, if he's comfortable, he's more himself.

Yes. Yes. And he's more like, you know, like dad jokey. If he knows all the cameras are shut off, like he can finally just have some time to beat Tom. Yeah, it's kind of dorky. Okay, okay, I like this. But you need a little dork in your quarterback. You do. Mostly all quarterbacks are a little dorky and that's what makes them quarterbacks. I mean not all of them but I'm saying it's kind of

like just a trait what quarterbacks have. But a little bit, just a little bit in them. He is cool cool but he's a little dorky but you just said he's not cool no I said the biggest misconception he's cool he always keeps a chip on his shoulder always always that's not a misconception I think everyone knows that work Tense work ethic, I know, but I'm just giving some facts about him. What else is a misconception? Hmm. That he's not clutch. No, that's not even a misconception.

Everyone knows he's clutch. Yeah, that's. Yeah, I just wanted to try to throw you off, Jules. How about this guy also played baseball and got drafted? Yeah, by the Expos. Montreal. Yeah, no wonder why he didn't go and play baseball. The Expos?

I mean, they have a cool hat. They do got cool colors. They're gone though. They're not even there no more. That's what I mean. That's why he didn't want to go there. He's like, oh man, my legacy, I go there, the team's gonna be gone. That means I'm gonna be gone. I want to last forever. I'll go to the New England Patriots instead Yeah, he was in high school when he got drafted he went to the same he went to the same

He was going to the Patriots Yeah, he went to that. I remember well we grew up in the same area So he went to the same high school as Lynn Swan Barry bonds There's like so many really good athletes that come out of that freaking school. Sarah, it's all boys school. What was the moment that Tom made you the most annoyed? Oh my God. When I would return punts. Like, I remember my rookie year. It was the freaking preseason game.

It was my first punt return and there was a repunt and I ended up house in the second one. But the first one I see Tom on the sideline and he's got a little anxiety because it's his first game from his knee, so he's like, he was like coaching me up on how to return a punt and he's like, just get a feel, just get a feel. I'm sitting there, I'm looking at him like, fuck this guy, this guy has never done this.

He does not know what I'm feeling right now. I was so annoyed with them. And then they repunted it and I housed it and I fucking slammed the ball against the thing. I was fired up and I was like, I was so annoyed with them. I was like, this guy, he's never felt what it feels to when the guys are running full speed. This is new to me.

I didn't ever felt it either at the time. So I was like, fuck this guy, let me do what I gotta do. He doesn't know how to run. And I was so annoyed with him. I'll tell you mine. What was yours? When I was a rookie and I couldn't get outside of the defender on a flag route,

which is flag route, which is a corner route. So you run about 10, 12 yards and you, you know, you give a little stick and you break at 45 degrees and run a corner route. And the defender was always outside of me sitting at like squatting at 10 yards. And he's always says, get outside. If you have a flag route a corner route. And the defender was always outside of me sitting at like squatting at 10 yards. And he's always says, get outside. If you have a flag route, corner route,

you gotta get outside of the defender or else I will never throw you the freaking ball. So I was a rookie. I was kind of like clunky. So I wasn't really that athletic as a rookie. You know, I wasn't running routes. Tired, we had double days in shit. Yeah, I was tired as well.

I couldn't get outside. And in practice, I didn't get outside of the guy. He's like two, three yards outside of me too. And I'm trying to fake him like I'm going inside and trying to get around them on the corner. And Brady just turns around in the meeting cause it's on film and he turns around and he goes, Gronk I'm fucking done throwing you the ball.

I told you 50 times to get outside. You're not getting outside. And like, I got all sad and LG Crumpler started patting my leg and he's like, it's okay, Grunk. He doesn't mean it. And I was like, yeah, he does LG. He means it, man. He means it. And let me tell you this time you fucking throwing me

the ball like a thousand times after. So I knew he was all bullshit time telling telling me he was never going to throw me the ball again. I was literally like, but that fired me up. I was like, oh, all right, I'm going to show this guy. But that's the leadership he had. He was brutally honest, brutally honest, and he would freaking get you to go to the next level, which was crazy, which was crazy. He was so good at it. But I was so annoyed because I couldn't get outside

of the guy. I'm like, I want to be like Tom run the freaking route. I guarantee I couldn't get outside of the guy. He was, I'm like, I want to be like, Tom, run the fricking route. I guarantee you can't get outside of the guy either. He's three yards outside of me. And then if I got outside of him, it was basically like an out route I was running cause I would have to flatten it so much. So I couldn't really run the corner route. And you get into the other responsibility, the other guy. But he just wanted to get a defender in practice is playing the play. Yeah. And then, and he knew the play. He just wanted to get the point across.

Like, so it was just always in my memory. And every time I ran a route, This is playing the play. Yeah, and then he knew the play. He just wanted to get the point across. So it was just always in my memory. And every time I ran a route, it was kind of just like on autopilot just to get outside of the defender. So I was annoyed with that situation. But times have changed. I started running routes where I would go inside the guy. And then he would still throw me the ball as well later on.

Because he's like, all right, he proved it enough that he can do it. Well then you guys started throwing the back shoulder shit. Yeah, then we started doing all that. I also used to get really annoyed when, in meeting rooms, if he liked you, I felt both of these. I felt when he liked a guy, he would love them up,

and then there'd be, so like when Wes was there, I get so annoyed when I would do the exact same thing that Wes would do. And he wouldn't think it was good. And I would get so fucking annoyed with them. But I remember when Wes left, then I was that guy, there was guys doing trying to do what I would do. And he wouldn't so like, I would get annoyed with that so much when he would always bring up like,

babe, just do it a little more like Wessie. He called him Wessie when he called him Wessie. Remember Wessie? I used to get so annoyed. You wanna know what I would get annoyed with him too is like, we're in the off season, we just ran 50 routes. It's like you and I out there only, we're dead tired. It's 90 degrees outside, middle of the summer. And he'd be like, one more, just ran 50 routes. It's like you and I out there only. We're dead tired. It's 90 degrees outside, middle of the summer.

And he'd be like, one more, just one more route. Cause he's just throwing the ball. His arm can throw 150 passes a day and we're running the fricking 50 routes and he'd be like, one more. So then we would run, run more. We give it our all and we're about to throw up. It's middle of the summer.

We probably are hung over. He has no clue what that's like. He used to. He used to. We didn't get to see him though. Yeah. And then he became lame. Yeah. He became lame for like a couple of years. Nah. He, back in the day.

I guess he wasn't lame. If you're saying he's not lame. He was lame. Okay. Say it, Jules. No, he was lame. Yeah. Like when it came to that, he was lame. But we didn't get him when he was young. Yeah, I know. He was already 33 when I first met him.

And I can tell you this, I'm freaking lame at 33 years old compared to when I was freaking 21 to 28 years old. You're right. Because when he was 23, 24, he was the, you know, he was the best chugger on the team. He was. Like he was a dude's dude.

So back to the story, he'd be one more, and then you would run one more route, and then be like, one more. And then you'd just be like, Tom, I'm not effing running one more. I just ran 50 routes. You're not one more, bud, one more. You wanna get better?

One more. And then it'd be like 15 more routes. And then finally it was the last one. And it was 50, and then you get to 75. He's like, he just wanted 75 throws. Yeah. He wanted 75 throws. Whatever Tom says, you do.

You got to. 100%. I remember those days, man. That's what made us great though. What was the moment that you felt like you truly gained his trust and that he could rely on you, even if you mess up again, he knows that you're still reliable. You know what I'm saying?

What was that moment? What was that catch? What was that play? If it was a practice or if it was a game. Well, because he loved he loved Wes. You just were not playing when Wes was there. OK, Jules? No, but you couldn't have Tom Brady's trust when you when you were on the bench. Wes left. You didn't like bench players. Okay, you didn't like it

He had no what he had to trust me He had to all right, and then it was we In 13 where we played Buffalo and we went out there and we won I had two touchdowns and and That's when I felt like all right because we had some we had two touchdowns. And and that's when I felt like, all right, because we had some we had some spurts where, you know, Westwood, we get banged up and he wouldn't play. But he didn't like, trust me, trust me until you had to be the guy until you had to be the guy.

Yes. And then he truly trusted you. And that's the situation, though. He he doesn't really trust a guy that, you know, he's not able to throw to 15 times a practice. You know, he has to see it. He has to do the repetitions with you in order to truly gain your trust. And it doesn't happen overnight. He gains your trust and you gain his trust as well, you know,

just over time, over time. I would say my situation was when we played the Chicago Bears on the one on one Panther route when I was going in the snow. Yeah. First Brian Erlacher and he wanted the game. I trust he wants to see me be physical. That's why he always emphasized to me be fucking physical. Grant, you're 260 pounds. You're going versus 180 pounders or linebackers that you're still bigger than. Be physical. And this was the play pan throughout one out run.

I run into the end zone, kind of hit the guy with my shoulder, then turn around, and the ball will be right there. Because when you're physical, you know, pushes the guy back a little bit. When you use your shoulder, you turn around, then there's that little ounce of separation. And Tom can see that. He can see the field.

He can see all the separation in the world. Sees it. He sees it. He can see every little detail that's going out on the field. And when he sees that little detail in that route, you know, with the physicality, he knows that you're going to be open. There's going to be a little window. I hit Brian Erlacher. We practiced it and that Friday he says, I want to see that in the game because I ran it great on Friday. So the game comes when I won versus Brian first Brian Lerlack, I give him the shoulder turn right around the balls right there. Nice and low where it's always supposed to be in the red zone. Boom, catch it. And ever since then, I gained Tom Brady's trust right there.

And then on the spot, which was one of the greatest moments of my career. Yeah, I remember that. It is, you know, you had to see it. That's what makes him. he's a dog, man. He's an assassin. He is an assassin. What's your favorite Tom memory? My favorite Tom memory is, actually,

this is one of my favorite memories of all time. When we were playing the Indianapolis Colts and I ran that five yard out route, caught it versus Dequale Jackson. I did a little spin move. He kind of fell, did a little split.. He kind of fell. They'll split. It was like very great route by me and great after the catch too. And then I'm running, you know, I'm going.

There's a couple other guys and here comes Julian Adam and Kaboom just absolutely levels Adams to safety, you know, gets him out of my way. I'm like, thanks, Jules for the block. You know, you jump in. I'm running into the end zone. I jump over Butler. Yeah. DB. Yeah. DB. What's his first name again? Yeah. Darius Butler, who was previously on the, on the Patriots and then he went to the Colts and now he's doing a, he's doing a great job in the media. Yeah. McAfee show. He's doing a great job.

So shout out to Darius Butler, but I jumped over his ass. Made me look good. Flipped into the end zone. I looked like an athletic 180 pound wide receiver. And then this was the moment. One of my favorite moments with him. Tom loved the route, loved the catch, loved your block. He was so pumped up. He ran full speed from the 30 yard line. And probably because I got him a touchdown on a play where it never

should have been a touchdown. Yeah. And he came running full speed and jumped on my back and went for a ride, man. He was, I was like a pony on a horse, man. I brought him for a ride, man. I was carrying Tom Brady around in the fricking end zone. He was on my back. He was on my back. Put the pony on the horse's back. I was waiting for him to drop that quarter in so the ride can keep on going. Yes. I didn't want him to get off. I was like, Tom Brady's on my back.

Like, what else do I need in my life? Oh my God. Yeah. And it's one of my favorite pictures to sign to this day as well. I don't think he ever signed it. It costs like five billion dollars to get him to sign a picture. So like I always sign the picture of him on my back and like, I'm waiting for that picture to be worth a lot more money once he signs it a

couple, you know, but he hasn't signed it yet. Man, that was a fucking fun play. That was a fun play. Thank you for that block. Oh you leveled Adams Adams he's talking in the he's a good safety. He was a battle. He was with Denver battle He battled us a lot man. He brought it. He brought it to and he wasn't scared. He was good. Yeah, there it is There's a picture right there. Oh wait, it's signed. There it is, man. He's going for a ride I'm still waiting for those quarters Tom. Oh My god, there's Tim Wright right in the back too. We won the Super Bowl this year There it is, man. He's going for a ride. I'm still waiting for those quarters, Tom. Oh my gosh.

There's Tim Wright right in the back, too. We won the Super Bowl this year, didn't we? Yeah, we won the Super Bowl this year. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was. Hooman was a tight end as well on the team. Tim Wright and Hooman, I love Hooman.

Now, what was your favorite memory, Jules? My favorite memory was when we there it kind of that 14 when he we hit that route, he came up to me afterwards and he and he goes, that was a championship route, man. And like it was nothing crazy. That's that's special And he, when he, you know, he goes, that was a championship play, man. And then we didn't win the game yet. You're making me want to tear right now because him saying that's a championship route, that's a championship play, that means a lot. Yeah.

And then afterwards when he, we won, you know, like that was his, that was when he got four. And I just remember, you know, there were so many memories of him, like you know, like that was his, that was when he got four. And I just remember, you know, there were so many memories of him, like you said, how he's having the ticker of the Super Bowl location and the whole story where I said, man, I'm gonna help you try to get to Joe. And cause I, we were both Bay Area fans, love Joe Montana.

And I told him he was the greatest quarterback of all time. And, and you know, that all, that was just a fun memory. There's so many, it's hard to fucking do one. All right, I mean. I'm gonna start crying. I know, me too. There's a lot of memories with Tom. It's just great to see him.

He's doing so good in the broadcasting booth. I mean, if he just puts in 10% of the effort that he did with the game of football in his after career, in his post career after football, he's going to have the whole world just, which you know, he is to eat from. He's going to be successful in anything that he does. And that's what he's going to do. He's actually going to go 100% all in with what he does. He's great in the booth. Like I said, he's been improving so much every single week. And it just shows, he is actually human.

I mean, week one, he was good, he got the win, but he definitely could improve. And then all of a sudden, week two and three, you're like, what the heck? How did he just go from being like a rookie quarterback to a veteran quarterback in one week in the broadcast booth? So just shout out to him, I mean, he dedicates himself and he works on his craft like

Like no one ever has before and that's what makes him, you know, the greatest the greatest at everything. He cares about Making the people look right that give him opportunity. Mm-hmm He does that's he cares about that. He takes it to heart and he cares about showing the people that has passed on him that they fucked up too. Yeah. He loves that too. He likes that. So don't ever pass on Tom Brady. No, I won't. The only thing I'll pass on is that I was kind of a little hesitant when I said he was lame,

but he was pretty lame except for when he wins a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay and he gets hammered on a damn boat. Like where was that fucking Tom around us? I was bullshit. I was waiting for that the whole entire time in New England. I was too. That's why I went to Tampa Bay.

I went there for that moment. I didn't really wanna play football again. I just wanted that moment that I could actually get wasted with Dom. But guess what? He was on a separate boat than me. I didn't even see to play football again. I just wanted that moment that I could actually get wasted with Dom. But guess what? He was on a separate boat than me. I didn't even see him at that boat parade. So guess what?

I still never had a drink with Tom. It took me all the way until the roast to have a drink with Tom Brady. And that's why it was in the roast. I said, Tom, I never had a shot with you ever in my life for a drink. And he took a shot with me at the roast. So that was that was a cool moment. Yeah.

I mean, it's been 33 minutes. How long can we talk about this guy? I think maybe we should have him on again for another episode. I got literally I can talk about this guy all day long. I can go literally two hours. The more we talk about the more stories that pop up in my head, the more stories about him on the field, off the field, what it's like to be around him. We could talk literally for four hours straight. Jules, what kind of dude is time?

What time? Well, what type of dude is Tom Brady? Ladies and gentlemen, I think this is easy. Break dog whiz. I think this is easy. Dude, dude. I don't know. What do you think? If it's easy, let's hear it. Let's hear why it's easy. He's just a fucking dog. He is a dog.

Mental, physical toughness, always motivated. He didn't have the pedigree. He was, he was, we saw the Brady six, the six guys before him taken in the draft. Like he always had to go to long road. He always had to work for everything. Even when he was at his top, they were always talking about someone else. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best.

He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best.

He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy who was the best. He was always talking about the guy taken in the draft. Like he always had to go to Long Road. He always had to work for everything. Even when he was at his top, they were always talking about someone else. He's a fucking dog. Yeah, I wouldn't say freak because a freak is like someone that has like the most athletic ability in the world.

And he didn't really have the most athletic ability, but what's made him so great was that he didn't need the athletic ability because the dog was working harder than the athletic dog. You know, that wasn't the freak dog that really there, the freaky person that wasn't really working. I think he's got you know what I mean? Skill like like shooting like basically like it's kind of like an archer. Freak instincts.

He could throw. Yes. He can like throw rocks really good. He could probably skip Freak instincts. He could throw. Yes. He can like throw rocks. Really good. He could probably skip a rock. Really, really, really. Yes. He plays like that. Pool. Yeah. Like ping pong. Ping pong. Well, I, I, I see. Yeah. You always beat him. Nevermind. He's not good at ping pong. Yeah. He gets really mad when he loses. That's a dog. That is a dog. That's a dog. He wants to go again though. Wants to go again. He wants to go again.

He won't let you leave. He wants to go again. He won't let you fucking leave. I mean, we haven't even got to this guy's looks yet either. I mean, we can just say that he's a stud real quick just because of how good he looks. Yeah, I mean, he looks younger than when he got in the NFL. Like his chin, jawline, fricking just beautiful. His blue eyes.

He posted a picture the other day on Instagram, like he's got like a six pack now, like his arms are jacked, like. I mean, he's doing two days. He is doing two days. He's doing two days right now. He's got his body, he's still, so that's why maybe AI was fucking right.

He's maybe AI. Is he coming back? AI is. Is Tom Brady coming back? I don't know, He got six pack. He got a little, his hair is looking as brown as ever. He gave me the supplement. He saw my gray hair and he goes, babe, here, take this fucking Ouisha. I think it's like Ouisha, or something. It's some Chinese medicine.

And you put it in the shake and I just had it. My hair is already growing. Is my hair darker? That's why I don't have a hat on the show. I wanted to show off my hair because I had the Ouishaproduct. It's like, oh, I don't know how to pronounce it. It's Ooshi, Ooshi, Ooshi. I got hair.

I don't it. Whatever it is. Look at how good his hair looks. It's just good looking guy. Man, he's a dog. All right. He's a dog. He is a dog. It's official. Tom Brady is a dog. Man, we could talk about him forever. We'll be right back after this quick break. special episode we have coming up. It's raining. Yes. It's pouring.

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now on the black effect podcast network, I heart radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Before we wrap up our show, we want to help the listeners better understand the types of dudes they are. We're going to do this by classifying some of your favorite celebrities. Stud, Freak, Wiz, dog, and dudes dude, celebrity dudes. Let's go through it, the list. All right, let's do it. Adam Sandler. Oh, Adam Sandler, he's a dudes dude. The guy's playing basketball,

he has all his friends in all his movies. I mean, he has his own production with all his friends as well. I mean, the guy's a dudes dude. I just feel like that's an easy one. He is. I mean, I've hung out with him a few times and he's like just a fucking good dude.

He's a dude's dude. Like the guy he plays in the movies is really who he is. He's a good dude as well because he brings out the best of dudes while us dudes are watching his films, watching him act, watching him perform. It brings the best out of you. It's like, man, I wanna be like this guy. And he takes care.

This guy's funny. He takes care of all his dudes. He does, he takes care of them all. Like all his other comedian, like he takes care of his dudes. He's all about that. He's a dude's dude. He's all about that. He's all about that. He's a dude's dude. And he's one of the best dudes dudes as well.

Yeah. What about Shane Gillis? Shane Gillis, he's in the dudes dude category as well to me. Yes, I feel like he is. It's a guy that you would just go out and just pump a whole 30 pack with for sure. He stole nights I used to buy in college. That's why I was able to afford those 30 packs. I was buying keystone lights, by the way.

Yeah, there was like 999 for 30 pack. Yeah, and he would drink every keystone. He wouldn't you be on your second one and be like, what happened to the 30 pack? And he'd be like, oh, yeah, he's I've done that. We hung out at the cellar once and he was such a cool dude. We talked ball. We talked shop for hours. What's his new show name called? Tires on Netflix is killing it. And I love that story. Great. His story about that is where he self made it himself and then he sold it to Netflix. Like he believed in his own product, which very entrepreneurial, I liked it.

Another dude, another dude's dude. What about Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift, I mean, I would say, ooh, she's a whiz in a way, cause to come up, you know, to memorize all those songs. Revolutionary. To write your own songs, to memorize them, to perform them, perform them.

I mean, you got to be smart. You got to be on top of your game. She's also a stud. She's a stud. I mean, to perform that many, you know, concerts all over the world. Week in, week out, three shows in three days at Gillette Stadium, you gotta be a stud. Dude, she's, I just keep on hearing about

how many billions all hers, like does she just tour year round? I mean, she's doing Europe tours, she's doing these, like she's a stud, but she is a whiz. I think, what do you think, whiz? I think whiz, she's doing Europe tours. She's doing these like she's a stud, but she is a whiz. I think we think whiz I think whiz she's a whiz What's Snoop Snoop Dogg? Oh Snoop Dogg Snoop Dogg Snoop Dogg Fucking dog Snoop double oh gee

You I know what was really cool? Like really, really cool is that Snoop Dogg sent me a package. Like he saw that I had a dog and his name's Ralphie is a French bulldog. And he's like the coolest French bulldog ever. He was actually here. He played with your dog for a while. They were best friends. We didn't even see him. Usually my dog has to be by my side. And like, what am I doing? 24 7? Rocky and Ralphie fucking around. Rocky and Ralphie. That should be a show.

And they were running out back and they didn't even care about us. It was the first time like Ralphie never even cared about me. I was like, wow, this is so cool, actually. Just to just to best friend. Just two dudes running around being out there. Dudes, dudes being dudes just running around dog dudes. But Snoop Dogg, he sent a package to Ralphie. And it was an outfit that you like put on your dog.

And it was Ralphie smoking a J. Like it was the coolest outfit I've ever seen in my life. And then I sent it to Snoop Dogg in a DM, because I DM Snoop Dogg before, like one at a time. He answered, so I was like, oh, maybe he'll answer this one. And he answered within 15 minutes. And it was like, yo, bro, that is dope.

And he sent back a video about it. And it was just such a cool moment. And he's just a dog, man. He's a great person as well. He's a dude's dude for sure, but obviously he's a dog. Obviously he's a dog. but that was one of the coolest stories ever is when he sent my dog a packet. We got a relationship, we probably became close to them

because he used to do our Super Bowl parties, and he was just always a cool ass dude, man. He just, but you can tell, like in his profession, like he talks like a poet. Like whenever he talks, like he can make like it sound like he's writing a poem right there, like with like Edelman, you so fresh. Like I'm like, what the I want to I want to

Crip walk this shit. What are you saying? It's crazy. So he's a dog. He's a dog. He is mad. He is. He's a dog.

What about Matthew McConaughey? Well, first off, shout out to Matthew McConaughey. I'm actually currently reading his book Greenlights. I started a year ago. It's about 280 pages and I was on a roll. I'm actually at page 154. Let's go. I thought I was going to finish the book and then all of a sudden I put it away and then I hit the road again and I didn't read again for like another three months and then three months later I'm like oh shit I still got the book

in my backpack I whip it out and I start reading again it's one of the best books I have ever half finished so far I mean I haven't really finished that many books but whenever I have downtime I'm on the road and I'm bored I whip it out man he has unbelievable stories how he made it how he first, how he got his opportunity. And just being an absolute dudes, dude and dog in that movie, Daze and Confuse. Yeah. All right. All right. All right. Why do I love high school girls? Because as I get older, they stay the same age.

And let me tell you, I've never even seen the movie. Read that part in the book. Frickin I'm on a flight. See Daze and Confuse on the flight. Read that part in the book. Frickin I'm on a flight. See days and confused on the flight. What do I do? Days and confused. And the part exactly how he described it in the book exactly happened in the movie. And I was like, this guy is the man.

He's a stud. He's a stud. He's a stud. He's a stud. He is big, big Texas Longhorn fan. Loves the game of football, loves football. Yes. He just seems like I mean, he hits a lot of these, but also like he got an Oscar, right?

He got an Oscar for that. Which one was it? Yeah, the Dallas Buyers Club. They about AIDS. The AIDS guy. And what what makes some got range? Because he could play like the Lincoln lawyer. He could play like a true detective. He can play like a true detective. He could play, you know, a guy with AIDS.

He could play with the funny laid back dude on days and confused. Like he's got fucking rage. This guy is he's a lot of his stud. He's got to read his book. I'm telling you, Julian, it's it's a great frickin book. It's so frickin good. I'm only halfway finished and I'm still, I'm loving it. I always talk about it to everyone.

I gotta finish his book. I will eventually. I know. You just motivated me now. I gotta start fucking reading. God, Rob. See, Rob, I'm telling you, since we started doing this show,

I'm like, man, the way Rob is makes me wanna be a better human. Hey, like he- Only half read a book in over two years. Still, it's better than not reading at all. You know what I mean? Yeah. I love Matthew McConaughey.

We need him on the show one time. I know, I bought his audiobook. I was listening to it too. I can't read. I get tired when I read. Well, that's why they say read before bed. Then I'll just go to sleep in a REM. Just 20 minutes before bed.

I'm gonna read tonight now. I'm gonna read tonight. I'm gonna read a lot. I'm gonna read... I'm gonna read children's books to my daughter. I'm gonna read a couple more pages in the green lights. All right. I love children's books. You wanna know why? They got a lot of pictures, Jules. A lot of pictures. Save me a rap.

A lot of pictures. I'm good at pictures. I'm good at visualization. Same. That's why I listen to them. A lot of pictures. I'm good at pictures. I'm good at visualization. Same. That's why I listen to them. I listen to books. That's why I was terrible in meetings. But I was so great in walkthroughs. You put them through it?

Everyone learns a little differently. They do. And that's been another episode of Dudes with Dudes. We talk about our dudes, how they learn, how we learn, their favorite dudes, our favorite dudes, and it's not just dudes. We talk about our dudes, how they learn, how we learn their favorite dudes, our favorite dudes. And it's not just dudes, it's all dudes. And these dudes, you know, kind of turned me up, man. We just had a great episode.

We had Patrick Mahomes, the best quarterback playing in the NFL currently. Tom Brady, our favorite teammate of all times. Also the best quarterback in the history of the NFL. And another legend, Fred Warner, who is currently in middle of his career. One of the most athletic linebackers of all times. Just a stud, absolute stud. So what a show we had, Julian. Thank you for letting me be here today, because without you, I would not be here.

Well, it's your nuthouse too, dog. Yeah, but. My nuthouse, me nuthouse, sued nuthouse. Yeah, but. What can we do to be better next episode? Probably nothing, we were just so good. Maybe we could read more books, so like our, what is it? Vocabulary? Our vocabulary is better.

Our imagination is better. Reading helps you expand your... Your brain. Your brain. Expand your thoughts. Thoughts. Thank you. You're finishing my sentences. You can think for me. That's how much you know me.

I know him pretty goddamn well. You know what I also know I also know you guys need to subscribe on Apple podcast Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts Comment a dude you want us to do rate and review Remember to follow dudes on dudes on YouTube Instagram X tick-tock and Snapchat we will see you all next week. Let's go! Woo!

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