Games with Names - Dudes on Ray Lewis, Jack Lambert, and James Harrison | Scariest Dudes

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

In honor of Halloween, this week, Gronk & Jules are getting on some of the NFL's scariest dudes of all time: Ray Lewis, Jack Lambert, and James Harrison. We’re talking what it’s like to get knocked out by Ray Lewis and his love for all things Gladiator. We decide if Jack Lambert is indeed the scariest looking NFL player of all time. We talk about what it’s like to witness James Harrison in the weight room. We wrap up the show by comparing NFL stars to classic horror movie villains.Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On today's special Halloween episode, we are talking some of the scariest dudes of all time! These guys are intimidating. We're talking Ray Lewis. He set the stage for what Baltimore has become. Who else are we talking? Kent State Golden Flash Jack Lambert. What if you were lined up and he looked at you with his no teeth? I'd probably be wide open because I'm going to run full frickin' speed away from him. And fucking James Harrison. Two flashes.

You know, if I hit him hard, man, I'm going to tell you he's going to pick me up and throw me to the next play, so I never wanted to trigger him. I always just try to get in his way. We'll break down their games, we'll share some insider stories stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. And then we wrap it up by comparing some of your NFL favorites to iconic horror villains. Horror movie villains. We're not word guys. We're dumb and dumber.

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of all scariest dudes? Our first guest that we'll be talking about on the Halloween edition of Dudes on Dudes. Scary motherfuckers or mean scary guys We'll start with former teammate of mine on inside the NFL Ray Lewis Scary SOB. Let's see what AI has to say about him. All right, we got some dude synopsis here Scariest dude number one is Ray Lewis. Let's see what AI has to say Yeah, I gotta say Ray Lewis is widely regarded as one of the greatest middle linebackers in NFL history. Known for his intense playing style and leadership on the field, and off the field he overcame personal challenges and became a motivational figure, often speaking about discipline and

perseverance. Lewis had significant impact on the Baltimore Ravens, leading them to two Super Bowl victories and earning the Super Bowl MVP in 2001. Wow. Wow. I was 12 years old in 2001. Jules, how old were you about? 15? 14? 15? 15? Notably, he is the only player in NFL history with over 40 career sacks and 30 interceptions distinctive

Additionally, he was a 12-time pro bowler and a two-time NFL defensive player of the year Ray Lewis for you ladies and gentlemen brought to you by AI. I think the AI is pretty right I worked with Ray as soon as we I Retired on inside the NFL and in those pre-production meetings he would speak And I felt like I wanted to run through a goddamn brick wall every time he would speak he sounded like a pastor with the mix of Craziness and a mix of a gladiator quote.

Ray, I don't think I don't know where your quotes come from. We went to Rome together and I figured out that all of Ray's motivational quotes come from the movie, The Gladiator. It was crazy. He's, I remember playing him, he knocked me out of game first off. What game was that and what year was that

he knocked you out of the game? It was, remember when Dion Branch came back for the first game back. So about was it 2013 your fourth year or my third year? This was like 2012. 11 or 12. Yeah oh it was 2011. Dion Branch came back on the team when we went to the Super Bowl. Yes, yes. 2010, my rookie year, Randy Moss was traded after the fourth game of the season. And then we traded back for Deon Branch, right, that year? So it was my rookie year. It was your rookie year. Yes, 2010, the same season that Randy Moss got traded.

Yeah, and he hit me on under in the red area. And I remember Helodi Nata like picking me up and saying, hey buddy, your sidelines that way. That was at Gillette Stadium, correct? At Gillette. Yes, and it was 2010. 2010. Yes, it was.

He lit me up. And then the year before, this is my second year in the league. Year before in the playoffs, he scored on a scramble in the red area. Tom darted it to me. I caught it, and I on a scramble in the red area Tom darted it to me I caught it in and I got a touchdown and Ray was right behind me and he need me so hard in my left butt cheek That like I got a crazy hematoma And I looked like I had JLo booty on more like my butt was just I had one big butt

It was so fucking crazy if we would have we got smoked that game But I wouldn't have been able to play the next week because I had one big but it was so fucking crazy. If we would have we got smoked that game, but I wouldn't have been able to play the next week because I had like internal bleeding. It was fucking nuts. So that dude is scared the shit out of me. What do you think about first off? A.I. hit it hit it on point, but they didn't, you know, talk about all his characteristics that he brings to the table as well.

Yeah, great motivational speaker, great player, you know, all the accolades, two-time Super Bowl champion, whatever, 12-time pro bowler, but they didn't talk about the characteristics that makes him himself. Vicious out on the field. Vicious. Absolutely vicious.

Intimidating, 100%. I would put my hand down, and I was already scared of Ray Lewis when he was lined up in front of me. When you're scared of a player, you're kind of already beat as well. That's how intimidating he was, just the nature of just the way he carried himself, the energy that he brought to the table. You did not want to mess with Ray Lewis. No doubt, no ands, ifs or buts about that now he was not just scary but he was also like one of the smartest football players you fucking played very intellectual it like we I remember we'd be in a three by one like a

trips formation and he'd be sitting there calling out like I watch this hook watch this hook like he'd be calling our plays and he would, I remember talking to him when we worked together and he would study all of our TV copies so he could hear Tom's signals, he could hear all the line front signals. So anytime we would play the Ravens with Ray, we kind of knew that he knew everything.

We had to change everything because he was such a smart, hardworking guy that did anything it took to fucking go out and win a game if that meant sitting watching five hours of all the tv copies to just to get one little signal from something that's what ray lewis was doing and he was just he was fucking like we look at middle linebackers now middle linebackers are 225, 230 pounds. Ray Lewis was sideline to sideline 250. 250. Doing war dances before the game, getting the whole city of Baltimore some light. I mean, he was their first pick of that franchise.

Like, he set the stage for what Baltimore has become. You know, like what he said in his things, known for defense, tough team. And it's carried out throughout, you know, Harbaugh, Harbaugh inherited him, rose it to what it is now. But there are tough fucking team. And Ray Lewis was like the war daddy of the war daddies. And he was the definition of a linebacker in the NFL in the in the decade of the 2000 era. No doubt about that. You big, strong, intimidating, fast, took no shit at all.

No, he was the defensive captain. He was the guy in the huddle that got everyone, you know, in the right spots where they needed to be. He was the one that was calling every single defensive player. He was the absolute definition of a Mike linebacker, of a middle linebacker. Mike linebacker is just a name for the middle linebacker for all you people out there. So Mike linebacker, middle linebacker, same exact thing, MLB. But he was the definition.

He was the standard of strength, of speed, of agility, of a middle linebacker. And how to... Instinctiveness. And how to... Instinctiveness, intellectual, just how smart he was, the ability to know what plays were being called, and how to fill a gap as well.

That, mother effer, that mother effer knew how to fill a gap and blow a gap up better than any linebacker in the history of the game. And he set the example to all young guys, all players, all defensive players in high school and college on how to play the linebacker position in the game of football. There's no doubt about that.

That was mean, aggressive. What else is there, Julian? Fucking instinctive. Yes. Just, just all of it. And once again, I got to experience, I got to be on a team with Ray. And the way he motivated guys, like his stories and how he would,

you have to, like he told me once, we're doing inside the NFL, he goes, you gotta win the crowd to win your freedom. I'm like, Ray, we're talking about football. We're not in a goddamn, we're not at the Coliseum right now. Okay, like I wanna run through the wall, but we're not about football. We're not in a goddamn, we're not at the Coliseum right now. Okay, like I wanna run through the wall, but we're not hitting nobody.

Just who he was, Jules. Yes, it's crazy. Just who he was. He would say something, and I couldn't understand anything, but I got the point. Like, he would say something, I'm like, fuck yeah. I don't, let's have the best fucking show. Let's have the show right?

Like that's how Ray was you know and we went we we went and did this convention over in Croatia together, and so I was like great. Let's You want to go to Rome after with me and so me and Ray went to Rome and to watch him go we went to the Coliseum for a day and it was like watching a Kid walk into a candy shop when he saw that Coliseum like you could tell that it was like ingrained in him He was like this is where the men

That I am used to perform you want in the day of age of them. He said something like that to me. I'm like, Ray, what? And one of his past lies. I bet you he was a gladiator. 100% fighting in the Coliseum 100%. Yes. He he I saw he he literally had a single tier when he walked and he saw just how grand and old and how he was. you could see him using his imagination for all the freaking fans and stuff and guys ripping each other's goddamn

heads off and it like, he loved it. Wait a second. Do you think he was one of the gladiators back in the day or was he one of those lions in the Coliseum? He was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he's glad I see him. He was he was he both he He was Lionheart Lionheart, but a gladiator yeah Lionheart Lionheart like band-aim Can't disagree with that. You ever been covered by him. I've been covered by him a few times I mean obviously his game was stopping the run, but he was very smart in the zone coverage as well.

A hell of picks. Yes. A lot of picks. I mean, what he has, what 30 interceptions and over 50 sacks. What was that? Yeah. That line again. The only one that ever do it.

And, uh, you know, he's just very athletic for his size too, man. His arms are just massive. It just looks like a guy out of like a magazine cover, you know, just straight off a magazine from front page cover right off the stands and just put on the football field. Mannequin. A mannequin of a gladiator. He was a definition of what a guy in Madden looks like. You know, when you're playing the game, Madden, you know, he just got taken right out of the video game and put right on the field. But I got to clear up a little bit with Ray Lewis. I mean, the guy, you know, back end of his career when we were facing him. So we didn't really get the true Ray Lewis, just like all of us in the NFL. He lit me up. Yeah, he definitely lit you up still. But when you're, when you're in your prime prime, you're moving people, no matter what the situation is, you're moving people,

you're blowing up the holes, all that. So we didn't, we didn't, I never got like leveled by Ray Lewis. I definitely felt his power. But here's a situation I was running. This thing goes viral all over Instagram all the time, where it's a clip of me running over Ray Lewis. But let me get this clear out there. I didn't really like technically run over Ray Lewis. I mean, I did in the clip and people just take it out of context because, you know, on the film directly, like with, you know, you just take it out of context because you know on the film directly like

with you know you just take that three seconds of a clip and I am running over Ray Lewis but here's the deal here's the situation it was a passing play and I was on a route he was dropping back in the coverage and I was debating I had a I had an in cut 12 yard in cut and I was debating because he was dropping back You know doing his thing trying making it hard on myself because you know You know he's very smart of a player knows how to drop back and get you confused of where he's going so then it kind Of throws you off your route, so I'm like do I go outside of him? Because he's dropping out of my out of my zone out of out of the area where I got to run the 12 yard in cut Or is he going inside and I should go inside or should I go outside of them?

You know, I'm trying to say, so I'm debating and I'm kind of stiff this game. You know, I'm just running straight and I'm debating. Should I go out? Should I go in? Should I go out? Should I go in? And I'm running full speed at them, debating and then boom, I just clashed right into them. So he wasn't really paying attention to me and he was looking back at the quarterback. But when I clashed right into him on the passing route, he went flying backwards and I ran him over. And then I like jumped up real quick

and acted like I was wide open. So like, I didn't really run him over. Did you get a catch? No, I didn't get a catch either. So it was great coverage by him actually, like to the T if you ask me. But it's a clip where I'm like, no, it's like just taking off context I will tell you when I ran that's how scary of a guy. He is is where Rob over here ran his ass over

Okay, I don't want to hear it right. He got ran over. No, I didn't Back in coverage and I just ran my route through him He's trying to justify running him over to not make Ray mad at him. I don't want Ray mad at me. I can tell you that right now, but I was just running my route and it went through him and he was, you know, he was on his, on his heels backing up backpedaling and using his space. Yeah, he did go flying, but it was not like a run play or anything. If that was a run play and I blocked him like that. Well, then that's off to me. I would still go running.

I would still run to the other sideline because I'd still be scared of Ray Lewis. But I didn't technically run him over. It was just a little mishap. And Jules, I got a question when he did that, you know, the war dance running out of the tunnel, the Baltimore fans going crazy. Did you ever watch one of those war dances? Oh, every time.

Are you like looking the other way? Like, Coach, no, no, Belchuk. I'm not I'm not watching it. Why are you saying that? Yeah. Because that's what Bill used to say. Yeah, yeah. Don't be paying attention to what they're doing.

Just worry about what you're doing. But Ray Lewis's war dance, you had a peek. Dude, that's how. You had a peek. Dude, you had to. Coach Belichick would be at Raven's weekend. He would always be like, look, we're gonna be going to Baltimore.

You're gonna have Ray doing his goddamn fucking war dance. Like, just get your heads right. Get your heads right for the game. Don't, we're all, you know, he's gonna be doing that war dance. You know, he's referenced the war dance. Wait, his war dance is called the squirrel dance? Ain't no squirrel doing that.

Yeah, cause Jules, you're a squirrel. You ain't doing those type of dances. I never heard anyone even call it a Squirrel Dance. It was started by his friends in his hometown. They named it the Squirrel Dance because it had the whole town jumping. I get it now. I know, but the Squirrel Dance, you're the squirrel. Yeah, and I don't see a squirrel looking that scary. Oh squirrels are furry and and cute kind and snuggly

No, Ray looks like he wants to bite your face off and do a war dance on your face after it's been bit off What about his visor? This is aura overall Ray Lewis's aura. I mean the visor what the you know, the little bands on his arms, all that just a scary player over a scary set in that purple and black. That's just a mean looking team. It is. All right. All right. Time. Let's determine what kind of duty is. All right. Ray Lewis. What kind of dude is Ray Lewis? Is he a freak? Of course he's a freak. I mean, he definitely has freak of nature in him. I mean, he definitely has freak of nature in him

I mean, he's gigantic. He's the definition of a middle linebacker. He's a whiz as well He was so innovative for the sideline to sideline quarterback of the defense type linebacker I don't you know, I could be recency bias, but this is what we grew up on. He's a dude's dude as well. I mean, positive attitude, the motivational speaking, getting everyone going, bringing everyone together. I mean, he's special, man. That's special just to have that, you know, in life is to just be able to motivate people and bring people together. And on top of it, just being that phenomenal of a football player, man, that's what really made him special. He had so many great characteristics that he brought to a team, not just being a good player.

I think he's a dog. He's relentless. He's motivated. He's physically and mentally tough dude. Torres Tricep came back in a fucking like four weeks for the game. Like he's he doesn't care if he has something hanging on by a thread. If it's a playoff game or if it's a AFC North divisional game or if it's a game against us you knew Ray Lewis was gonna be out there doing his goddamn war dance before the game getting the whole fucking crowd going crazy you know that's gonna be what Ray does and he's a fucking dog there's no he's a dog he is a dog and anytime you're a dog, you get the job done.

And he got the job done every single time he hit the field. Let's go to our next guy. I ain't ever messing with Ray. Hell no. I'm gonna be best friends with him. And he would love the shit out of you. Ray's the best teammate ever. We'll be right back after this quick break.

Who's our next Roberto? Our next scary is from one of the scariest eras of football where they didn't care if they were injured. No, they didn't have doctors to treat their broken ankles, broken legs. They just threw them back out there. This was the scariest times in the NFL. Concussions didn't matter. That means if you had stars, it meant that you were extra tough. And this guy is in that era. And he was one of the scariest ones in that fucking scary. And I'm getting scared.

Do you look scary? He looks scary. Who do we got? He looks like Halloween. We got Jack Lambert, ladies and gentlemen. OMG. Played for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jack Harold Lambert. Jack Lambert, golden flash. What's AI gotta say about old Jack? Start the clock now. Alright. Hit that clock. Jack Lambert. Jack Lambert was an intimidating and fierce linebacker known for his aggressive playing style and toothless snarl.

No teeth. Off the field, he was a private person who preferred a quiet life, often retreating to his farm. Lambert had a profound impact on the Pittsburgh Steelers, leading them to four Super Bowl victories in the 1970s with our guy Terry Bradshaw, the original TB 12. Terry, Oh good old Terry Bradshaw. Uncle Terry. He was a nine time pro bowler and an eight time all All-Pro, earning the NFL Defensive Player of the Year Award in 1976. Notably, he recorded 28 career interceptions and was a key figure in the Steelers dominant defense. Want to know what I loved about Jack Lambert? It was he wasn't the traditional size of a

linebacker, especially back in the hey heyday he was once again a guy from Kent State University. Bill Flashes. Was he drafted into the NFL? Yeah. He was drafted. He was a fourth rounder. I know that he had you know not the ideal 46 overall. He didn't have the ideal size going into NFL as well I think he was 6'4", about 200, 210 pounds coming out of Kent State. And they wanted to put some bulk on him. So he didn't really play, you know, at the size of all these other linebackers. And then the NFL at the time, I think he played about at like, what, 220? 220. 230. So 6'4", a linebacker at 6'4", that's kind of unheard of. Usually they're shorter, more stocky, can fill the hole, can take on a lineman,

can take on a fullback, can go side to side with the agility. But this guy, no, he was different. What, you know, that kind of was an advantage for him. You know, watching tape on him, I feel like he could see over the lineman because he was 6'4". He could see what was developing in the backfield.

And when you can have that type of advantage and you can see what's going on in the backfield you can see that short running back where he's going where he's angling that's an advantage and Jack Lambert used that on the defensive side of the ball making tackles it was just ridiculous watching him play. What if you were lined up at tight end and Jack's the middle linebacker right here and he looked at you and with his no teeth and he said hey Gronk I'm gonna eat your lunch. What would you do? I'd probably be wide open because I'm gonna run full freaking speed away from him. I'm running full speed but at the same time those are the guys that are hard to get open verse because I'm 6'6 that's my advantage is my height yeah and my size

but when you're 6'4 and yeah yeah, he was smaller than everyone, but dude... Long and lanky. Yeah, long and lanky, but he had that like, hit stick. Like, it's kind of like, like a type of strength that is kind of not taught. That like, some type of strength where you don't go in the weight room to get that type of strength. That's that leverage strength. Yes, 6'4", just, you know, skinnier, more athletic than these other linebackers and other players in the NFL.

But he had that, you know, that pop. He had a pop in him. When you have that pop and that toughness, I mean, it doesn't matter what size you are, you can knock down anyone, even if they're 50 pounds bigger than you. He's also like an intimidation factor. You see in the Super Bowl against the Cowboys where the guy guy the kicker missed the fucking kick on the Steelers and and the cowboy guy was heckling him and Fucking Jack Lambert grabbed him by the back of his thing and threw his ass down say boy Shut the fuck up like that. He's crazy

I think the ref was right there was too scared to throw damn damn penalty Like that's how scary of a guy was I mean it's he's just he's not like a big guy He was he had a wide receiver built he had long, you know skinny legs like stink to his fuck. Yes He I mean you you you throw on his highlights Yeah, he would blow up the the one yard bar He'd blow up the goal line player, the short yardage play. But you saw him drop and he would always make these crazy. He had a lot of interceptions, too, I think. Like he had a bunch.

Grew up a Browns fan, played for the Steelers. Big hitter. He was the trash talker that backed it up. Probably one of the toughest guys on one of the toughest so-called defenses of all time. That steel curtain. You had mean Joe green. You had all these Jack Ham and then you have fucking Lambert

over there who and this guy these guys are scared of him. This guy had no front teeth. No front teeth. Look like a hockey player. He was labeled as the scariest looking player in the NFL on top of being that scary on the field. He's also double double whammy. What about his nicknames? No Jack Jack splat captain Jack Dracula cleats

That's actually tight because he has no teeth. He kind of looks like a jack-o-lantern. He kind of looks like a jack-o-lantern He does it's you know in some pictures some way and then that look at the helmet that he's wearing the base mask yeah with the bar you got the bar right down the middle even scare the neck roll he always he saw him with the patent 1970s freaking hand and arm pads you just see a guy like him given a freaking clothesline to a quarterback and like spitting on him afterwards like that's the kind of guy Jack Lambert was he he's what did it say JT Thomas yeah he's so mean he hates himself you got to play like that what I love about Jack Lambert too is that he never he had a quote before it was something along the line of that he just

never used football as a popularity contest you know he looked at it as it was his job. Fucking. And you got to appreciate those guys. You love those guys in the locker room because they were all business and Jack was business at all times. And he didn't care about, you know, who was watching home, you know, how popular he was. He cared about getting the job fucking done. And that's what he did. Who's the modern day Jack Lambert. And that's a tough question because there's really no linebackers that are six four in the NFL. They're not any middle Oh, no, especially not. It probably would have been outside linebackers. It would have been like Erlacher back in the day

Oh, yeah, Erlacher's Erlacher was like a safety. Yes. Yeah turned into a safety Right there. Mm. Currently I'm not really sure anyone really compares to Jack Lambert. It's different game I don't know if he also like I went to Kent and I didn't even hear any he Stories about him really like that. He was he's kind of like an off-the-radar type guy. I heard I heard he's like in some Country town probably in Ohio On his farm. I think he's got bomb shelters or anything.

If anyone in the Jack Lambert camp hears this, can we get an update on him? We would love to as a former Flash and a guy that went to the same university as him that likes him. We want to know if he's okay. I think he is okay. Like I said, he just cared about doing

his job. He didn't care about the popularity and he's kind of like that. When was the last time he was seen in the football world? I think it was when the, uh, the original Steelers stadium closed down before they were going to build their, uh, the new one, three year one. Yeah. What was it? Three river stadium, right? Didn't he go to that last game or something? Did he? Was that the last time he was seen? Yeah, 2000 was the last time he was seen. 24 years ago.

I wonder what he thinks about all this technology. He looks like a guy for fact that will fucking. If you're on his phone, if you're on a phone around him, I think he might shoot the phone. Yeah, he's still using a pager. No, I don't even think he has a pager. I think he's got landline. Just a pager. He's got landline, bro.

He's got cord still that would like a 30 foot cord so he could take a goddamn call away from his wife, like two rooms down and has to shut the door and use it and put the cord under the door gap so he could have some some privacy That's the kind of guy. He's a scary kind of guy. He is like I Got I got a question. How do you would you ever go off the grid? Would I ever go off the grid Jack Lambert hasn't been seen for 24 years? Actually, I would if I had enough means to go off the grid. I would love to go off the grid

You got plenty of means nah. Yeah, I got kid you can't like you can't go off the grid, I would love to go off the grid. You got plenty of means. No, I got kid. You can't like you can't go off grid if you have a kid. Like if it was just me and rock, I go off of the dusty trail, but I can't. That's a deserted island. I don't know. I'd take amounts of food and water. Some little town in Mexico. Would you do it? Would you go off the grid?

Can you see yourself going off the grid? I would love to go. If like I said, I like that. Huh? We got dudes on dudes. in Mexico. Would you do it? Would you go off the grid? Can you see yourself going off the grid? I would love to go off. Like I said, if I... I wouldn't like that. Huh? We got dudes on dudes. Yeah.

Why would you go off the grid on me? Wouldn't it be cool to have a Mai Tai and like a little umbrella? Can we just do dudes on dudes off the grid? Wait, we wouldn't be off the grid then? We'd be real dudes on dudes on. How? Just you and I.

Dude on dude? Yeah. No. How do you think he'd play in today's football? I think he'd be pretty good. Yeah, he'd be really good, especially, you know, cause he seemed like he was very athletic as well, could cover, cover pretty well.

So the way that, you know, we're throwing the football now in this era, I feel like he's a guy that can drop back in middle of the field and especially in zone coverage. I think he would have a couple of interceptions a year. No doubt about that. And just his mentality that he brings in the run game. I feel like some defenses are missing that type of mentality too. Like those guys that play willing. Yeah. They're willing to go in and just take a full back, you know, playing all that. I want to get down heads up all downs, you know, and just being able to just,

you know, give up your body, sacrifice yourself. So those players, Ray Lewis, obviously Jack Lambert, another one of those. So what about John Elway? Remember when John Elway faced Jack Lambert? Yeah, didn't he? What happened? He said, just let me out of here I'll be an accountant. Yeah, you want to know why you want to know what else happened? What happened? He did say that after the game, but you want to know what else happened?

What happened? He lined up under the right guard. That's how scared he was. He was that scared and nervous I mean that was a frickin went under the right guard. What year was that? Imagine that 83 so Lambert was still there. Lambert played what? 12 years. This was a young John Elway, probably young, block out of Stanford. 148, 14 yards that game. 148. We're talking John Elway. 148, 14 yards when he faced the scariest defender. The steel curtain. he wasn't just here, he had to steal Bean Joe Green, Ham,

LC Greenwood, all those boys. I mean, and he was the fucking flag carrier for that scary ass defense. Time, what kind of dude is Jack Lambert? Jack Lambert, a stud, he was a stud but not can't stay not can't That can't stand when you're that scary you're technically Not a stud. He's got that athleticism. He's got the football IQ But he he he always had the is he too small in his category

So that takes him out of the stud and then that takes him out of the freak category as well. Yeah, but he could be a freak because he's like a regular lanky dude that played like he was 280. And he had a hit stick. He had a hit stick and he had no teeth. They had no teeth. He could be a whiz because he was so fucking intelligent. You know, he was calling out plays and that was,

I was watching all his, you could tell he knew the Game better than a lot of the other guys he was playing against wasn't no one was he a dude's dude I probably don't know I heard a snake story where he almost killed a guy from putting a fake snake in his room Like I don't think he's a dude's dude He's not a guy that you want to fuck with or pull a prank on he might He's a dude's dude. He's not a guy that you wanna fuck with or pull a prank on. He might pull out a 22 and kill you.

He looks like he writes manifestos. Yes, he's got a list. He's got a list. So no, don't pull pranks on him. You know what, I think he's a dog. He's just a dog. He is a dog. You know, he's relentless, he's motivated,

he's physically and mentally tough. He's exceeded everything that everyone thought he couldn't do at the highest level. Jack Lambert is a dude of a dog. And dogs don't care about getting the credit. They just want to feel the love and they just want to do their job. And when they do their job, they feel the love. That's it. That's that was poetic. That was fucking poetic, Rob. Where did you learn? I have a dog. That's why I have a dog. You have a dog. He does not care about his popularity. He

just cares about doing what he needs to do to protect myself, protect Camille and protect the house. And then he feels like he's accomplished and then he snuggles into me and we share love. That's just dogs loving dogs. He's a dog stamp it. Dog! Alright let's get into our our last Halloween edition of Dudes on Dudes. Guy that we are going to talk about. You know what? I'm looking at this and it's pretty gnarly. That every one of the scariest guys that we're going over is from the AFC fucking North.

Another Kent State Golden Flash. Another man that scares the living shit out of you. He sure does. His name is Debo, but his birth name is James Harrison. James Henry Harrison Jr. Oh, Hank? I will not call him that to his face. He'll probably beat my face in. I've seen him doing that volleyball shit.

What is that? Let's see what AI has to say. Alright ladies and gentlemen. AI for James Hank Harrison Jr. The second. Holy smokes. Oh, it's blank. AI was scared.

AI is fucking scared. I'm scared. Did not want to get it wrong. Start the clock. No. No. James Harrison. James Harrison was a tenacious

and a hard-hitting linebacker. Tenacious. Tenacious, thank you, Jules. Gotcha. Hey, I'm Harry. I didn't read any books growing up, okay? You know, and a hard-hitting Heimbacker. Known for his relentless work ethic

and physical style of play, off the field he was dedicated and resilient, overcoming numerous setbacks to achieve success. Harrison had a significant impact on the Pittsburgh Steelers, helping them win two Super Bowls and earning the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award in 2008. Jesus.

Notably, he set a then Steelers single season record with 16 sacks in 2008 and is the only undrafted player to win Defensive Player of the Year award. He was also a five-time Pro Bowler and twice named the Steelers MVP. He should have been a Superbowl MVP. Yeah, but Santonio Holmes with that crazy toe tapping catch to end the game. They should give out like two MVPs award, a defensive MVP if deserved, and then an MVP award as well, or an MVP award. And if it was a defensive guy, then if someone played on the offensive side, you know on the off side of the ball very well They should also have the offense of MVP. You know what I mean?

You know what I'm saying by that Andy? Yeah, they could get they can get a better sponsorship group out of the NFL Too if they did that you could have you know Chevy for you know, the offense and Ford for the defense We're not business guys for, you know, the offense and forward for the defense. We're not business guys. Debo. Hey, Lloyd, you're smarter than I thought. Harry, your hands are freezing. James Harrison. Absolute scary motherfucker.

Like he look at him, you look at his pictures. It's like one degree outside, he's got his shirt off and his baggy ass sweats doing a pregame warmup, looking like he wants to just, I fucking kill every single person on the other side of the team. Like, we played against him, and he's got a notion, and it's so fucking crazy that he didn't get drafted because he's about a notion and it's so fucking crazy that he didn't get drafted because he's about six feet

Tall but he's also six feet wide. This guy is a fucking fridge His I've never his arms are literally like 30 inches Big I remember he came and played with us in 17 It literally when he would walk in the locker room, it felt like the scene in Friday when Debo would roll, everyone would put their chains away, and he was like a nice guy, but he just had that scary aura.

Great guy. Scary aura about him were like, hey, oh shit, what's up? No one wanted to joke with him because you didn't know if he was gonna take it or if he could be joked with But he was honestly a great teammate for that one year and he's made so many incredible fucking plays in his career Like it's insane. Have you seen him do the shock put?

No, I never seen he's I guess he's a huge fucking shock putter. Like he's a fuck and that I love him I absolutely loved him. I remember when he played that game in 2008, I was at Kent State, the Super Bowl, where he had that big 100 yard run in the Super Bowl. And I was just so excited to see a guy like him, you know, dominating the NFL from where I came from. He I mean, it was it's crazy. Was Primes James Harrison faster than you? It's crazy. Was Primes James Harrison faster than you?

Yes. Was he? Yes. I'm not going to say he wasn't. I had to think about that. And I was like, wait, if I am faster than him, I should not say I was faster. That's like that's like me saying I'm stronger than him as well, which obviously I am not stronger than James Harrison I don't think anyone is but I'm gonna talk a little football, you know a little

Technician on the football field here. I mean in the blocking aspect of the game Yeah, who you're going verse what type of guy you're going verse What type of player you're going verse who you're going verse because in the NFL you scout the player you're going verse You've got them you see what type of player they they are you see how they react to you know the type of blocks that they're receiving and all that good stuff and what size he is what height the defender is that you're going verse you get in his chest you throw your shoulder there's so many different techniques depending on who you're going verse and I love blocking the guy that's

like six five my height, who stands up. Because then I can get in his chest, drive him backwards, and a guy that doesn't have that mean look, that mean attitude, and a guy that's not gonna get pissed off because I came flying off the ball and absolutely drilled him and drove him back five yards and embarrassed him. That was the last thing I was trying to do

with James Harrison. What were you trying to do with James? First off off with James, I knew I couldn't get into his chest. The guy is like a bowling ball. Like you know that 28 pound bowling ball that everyone wants to throw down the freaking lane and just try to knock down all the pins and like you kind of like do a granny style and so heavy you blow out your back. Well, those are the hardest guys to block in the NFL, especially at my size, six foot six. You blow out your back. Well, those are the hardest guys to block in the NFL, especially at my size. Six foot six. You know, it's hard for me to get low. It's hard for me to move that type of guy because they have so much leverage.

Built in plaid level. Yes, exactly. That's what he has. And with a guy like that and how scary and intimidating he was. And I seen it on film. You do not want to piss James Harrison off. Why? What did you see on film? Yes. What do you see on film? What do you mean? What do you see on film? I seen him take defenders, offensive linemen, toss them. I seen him absolutely level defenders and put them out of the game with a concussion. Dude, he knocked out Josh Cribbs, one of his teammates from college. Literally knocked his ass out. So therefore when I'm blocking him, it's a guy that you just kind of want to get in his way. I'm not going to come off the ball and crush his skull. I'm not trying to do that because if I piss him off, you know, if I hit him hard and I trigger him, man, I'm going to tell you he's going to pick me up and throw me to the next play.

So I never wanted to trigger him. I always just try to get in his way, you know, with my shoulder, with my hands. So then when the running back came around and you try to make a play, you know, just get in his way again, you know, so he can't make the play. Could you feel his strength? I could feel his strength? I could feel his strength because then if I started going strength for strength, that's when I lose.

Yeah. No doubt about it. That's when I lose the block versus a guy like that in leverage. So every time I just try to just kind of play patty cake, you know, try to let him absorb me. So if I did fly off the ball, he would fly off the ball too. Then I would go backwards and he would have that separation. The guy would pass. So I just try to stick on him like a like a sponge, you know, and just always didn't let him out of my rear view mirror,

just always staying in front of him, never trying to piss him off, never trying to give him a cheap shot. That was the way I blocked James Harrison. And it was a whole different style when you go over as a player like him. That's crazy. See, we're here talking about Rob. Like Rob's Rob used to block the biggest, baddest dude on the defensive line. That's fucking does you know, it's rarely seen, you know, a match up with the tight end and the nine technique fucking D.

End or what, you know, the outside linebacker that's playing down. Like that doesn't that's usually not the point of attack a lot of times, is it? You watch that film? Yeah, you always want to get the tackle on those guys. But when you have a tight end in that situation that's willing to do it, willing to get to the net, that's what expands your offense. Yeah, expands the run game. That's what expands the play action game as well.

And I kind of use that to my advantage. And that's actually what helped me get open plenty of time on the play actions when the linebacker step up because they thought, you know, I'm coming out the block. But James Harrison was a terrifying pocket pressure player. Low. He got so low. He's just like, yeah, he would have that shoulder dip and he would just get right by the off and the tackle, even though the offensive tackles twice his size, kind of like, it looks like twice as high, but he would get right underneath them and he was so strong, he would just rip through right through his arm and then get to the quarterback. And he was quick enough to take

kind of an outside angle. Run the hump. Yeah, run the hump and then bolt right to the quarterback. He also would have a great change up where he would just use his strength. He'd get right up in that chest of that guy who was about eight inches taller than him and push his ass right back into the pocket and blow up the quarterback. And that's the exact leverage I was talking about. And that's why I didn't go toe to toe with him right off the line because he would get that leverage and you push me back. So I would just try to stay on him and not let him get that force to, you know, to be

able to push me back. So just being a smart player. Have you seen his workout videos? His workout videos are frickin ridiculous. He has like 845s on each side when he's frickin benching like 500 like 55 pounds. You see it does just ridiculous. His conditioning he gets like a 30 pound or a 40 pound medicine ball and he plays volleyball with it where you have to catch it. I have seen that. That that's hard. People don't realize that's hard. That's heavyweight and he does volleyball with it where you have to catch it. I have seen that. That's hard.

People don't realize that's hard. That's heavyweight and he does it for a long round. Like it's so fun to watch his workouts because he does like some World's Strongest Man shit all the time. Or like you'll have like a boulder he's pushing or he's fucking pulling a goddamn car or throwing fucking rocks that are like 900 pounds.

Like he's just a. He's a cool dude, man. And the one thing about it, the one thing would you agree? Does his voice not match his body? I think it does match. It does, because I don't think it's like a low, scary voice. It's not as low as you expect. Yeah. So I don't think it like you would think with that guy

He's like hey, how you doing you yeah, you're expecting that low. No, it's kind of it's not high though. No, it's not high It's kind of like James. I'm not saying you have a high voice Which is kind of good because imagine if it was that low it would be like even scarier Yeah, like I remember remember he gave I got one of his shirts Remember he had the Debo shirt in the locker room. I still have the Debo shirt Yeah, like I remember. Remember, he gave I got one of his shirts. Remember, he had the Debo shirt in the locker room. I still have the Debo shirt somewhere here.

He's he's like he can live like whatever. Six hundred pounds, Ben squat that left. But what I love about him is that he always posts his regimen of, you know, recovering of how he recovers off of those lifts, how he was recovering in the NFL. And he would put like 350 acupuncture needles and every day, like every other day. And he posts about it. Like you got to be a freak. You got to be intense in order to get 350 needles poked inside of your muscle tissue and just take it like an absolute champ. Like that just shows. He just shows like he's dedicated.

Like he's doing whatever it takes to be at that level that he needs to be at. Who is the Mount Rushmore of strongest guys we played with you think? I would say Sebastian Vollmer, left tackle. Was Vince Wolfork he was super strong strong He didn't really have to even like work out that much you just walk in the weight room and toss up like 500 pounds On the bench yeah Marcus Cannon and was the strongest guy I ever saw in the squatting world

I never I remember cannon would be squatting and there'd be 15 fucking 45 and the thing would be bouncing He I swear I think he had like 12 45s on each side 45. And the thing would be bouncing. I swear, I think he had like 12 45s on each side. Remember that? And the other part would be the it'd be bouncing. Like it was a fucking cute tip with fucking rocks on it. He's like, it was gnarly. Well, that was a good imitation right there. And then Brandon Bolden for Pound for Pound. Bolden didn't even work out. He then Brandon Bolden for pound for pound. Bolden didn't even work out

He was like, but he pound for pound when we do all those like gosh. I wasn't saying like that was a bad thing Yeah, he didn't need to work out that I'm like, dude. How are you so strong and ripped? He's like, yeah, I carry my kids around and I'm like, I'm like, I gotta start having kids I gotta start having kids and I still haven't started and this is eight years later What I would still be playing if I had ten kids He would always do those remember we'd always have to do those explosion Recordings for some certain things like the Kizers and he would always be the absolute Money blow people out by a thousand points because he was just so explosive strong. I'd say that's prior Mount Rushmore

Yes, his last Kent State game You know who he sacked five times? Miami of Ohio Oh Big bad his fucking bad mate and office bird no one's off limits. No one is off limits We saw what he did to Josh cribs when he was in a Brown's uniform We saw what he did to Josh Cribbs when he was in a Browns uniform. We saw what he did to Ben Roethlisberger when he was in a Miami of Ohio uniform. Like he is fucking Freddy Krueger, bro. This is I mean, this is the perfect guy to have on the goddamn Halloween episode.

You know, yeah, we're talking about his, you know, defensive skill set and all that. But what about every time he had an interception? He always almost like brought that ball back to the house,. Obviously with one of the biggest Super Bowl plays in history, the 100 yard return versus Arizona Cardinals. And if they scored right on that drive, they were saying the game was going to be over going into half because the Cardinals had that big of momentum and that much momentum going in. But he saved the Steelers that game with that interception to the house. It looked like he was about to be tackled eight different times, and he just kept going and kept going and kept going.

He's kind of like a fullback mixed with a running back when he's running the ball. Like Mike Allstott. Yes, exactly like him. He's Mike Allstott of the defensive side of the ball. Did you hear that he's is he going to be fighting Ocho Cinco? He will be fighting Ocho Cinco. He was super bowl. Yeah, Ocho Cinco Ocho Cinco first James Harrison What are you thinking Ocho Cinco?

What the Ocho? Are you thinking I'll tell you right now Ocho Cinco's got some balls. He does have some balls He raised a horse. He's fought a couple times Yeah, he's lost all the fights though. Has he? Yeah. He lost the fight. He bought one time.

There's something to be said about a man that loses a fight and keeps coming back. Mm hmm. Keeps coming back. Old Joe Zinco don't back down. He doesn't. No, he doesn't. But what's he thinking? What is he thinking?

I don't know. Is it, it's UFC, right? It's MMA style. MMA style. Yeah. I mean, the only way you'd have to fight James Harrison is if you go box him, if he couldn't bring you down. Ojo Cinco is 6'1", 190 pounds about, I would say.

He's got to. He's probably like, yeah. He lost to Brian Maxwell in a boxing match. Did he? Yeah, it wasn't that pretty. I'm not saying he probably beat the shit out of me, but I'm not fucking James Harrison. Mm hmm. James Harrison is a scary man. Should we go? We should go. I got I got a what if scenario.

Do you think we can beat James Harrison if we tag team versus him? If we you mean if we tag team James Harrison? No, no, like you and I versus James Harrison. I don't honestly, I really don't know. I consider myself a tough guy. And I consider you a large, tough human as well. We would have to game plan. You have to game plan,

because you know the Steelers do what they do. They do do what they do. They do what they do. They do what they do. They do it very well, but they do what they do. They do what they do, and they don't adjust. They don't adjust, you can game plan them. They do what they do. They do what they do. They do it. They do it very well, but they do what they do what they do And they don't adjust they don't adjust you they do what they do and they do we'd have to do a James Harrison Yeah for that fight time. All right, but what kind of dude is James Harrison? Okay? I have I have two that I think he is he you know, I don't think he's a dudes dude

No one's I played with him and he was kind of a dudes dude But I was too scared of him the whole time to for him to Me think that he was a dude's dude The freak he's I mean he's either a freak or dog to me You know it and I think it's a crazy thing that if he's a freak that he was an undrafted freak That's probably a stat that will never say again and though the that's freaky I mean, he is a freak for sure. I would not disagree with a freak He has dog in him. There's no doubt about that. He's a relentless dog. He's a dog that he's a pit bull

He just never gonna stop. It's the pit bull that's all trained Yeah, that has a locked dog and just never letting go until that y'all finally gets tired after like 10 hours him down I think yeah, you gotta put him down basically You gotta kill him to let him but he's also a freak with that interception and the stride. His stride when he's running is ridiculous. I mean, it's freaky to have a stride like that at that size with that much mass and to be able to run like that. That's freaky. That's freaky tangibles.

Dude, no one. They say he's six foot. That dude's five eleven. He may be five ten. He about my height and he's two sixty and he runs just as fast as me. OK, if you want to call that not a freak, you're fucking crazy. Yeah, you are crazy. He a freak freak. He's a freak. James Harrison.

Freak. Stamp it. We'll be right back after this quick break. All right, let's do this. Our post show segment in honor of Halloween. Let's do some horror villain comparisons to guys that played or or play in the National Football League. We kind of did this with Transformers and on games with names where we compared Transformers to guys.

Now let's do some horror villain comparisons to NFL guys. Jigsaw, the guy from Saw that's terrifying. He's pulling strings behind this. He's a mastermind. Mastermind. So that's kind of, it's kind of a pose. But they're not as, they're, we're talking like the intangibles of how they can, you know, display what's going on,

not their characteristics. Like Jigsaw was a killer. Like we're not talking about him being an actual killer. We're talking about how they can, you know, set the whole scenario up. Set the whole game plan. Yeah, so he saw. So basically the whole-

He's the guy behind Saw. All right, so the whole, what am I looking for? The whole- You're looking for a- What's so- Master mind manipulator. Yes Someone who he's believing he like saw is getting yourself to believe that if you rip your eye off you rip your eye Ah ha ha you're gonna live Belichick. Yes, he's Belichick. I was out about that. I was gonna there's other names That's that's Bill and you're gonna die if you don't do that. Yeah, well, it's like I would say maybe like college coach Nick Saban those guys saving saving and Andy Reid right now current coach Andy Reid. He's a mastermind

Yeah, but I don't I don't see him making you go for your life. Yeah, I Feel like I feel like he gives her a while He gives you an option after a while in the room where you had to like cut your arm off And he would jump out and say Here's a cheeseburger Yeah, he's like a nice guy. Yes. Yes, but he'll rip your face off. I've heard that and he practices hard and he's tough with his guys, but Bill Belichick and Nick Saban, I think all right jigsaw those two what else reminds? Frankenstein a monster in size and ability without a doubt you got to be in this category I jewels I was gonna just say my name right away right off the bat. I am definitely Robbie Frankenstein Robbie Munster

That's easy you go who else Trent Brown Oh Trent Brown definitely Trent Williams. Mmm He's from the Niners Trent Trent Williams, the offensive tackle. Yeah, he's he's Frankenstein. He's huge. Yeah, but he moves too good. He moves too good. He doesn't move like Frankenstein. He's huge. Did you do a move like Frankenstein? Frankenstein celebration once. So the one in London actually was not a Frankenstein celebration.

A lot of people thought it was that one. That was a changing of the guards. Yeah, the guards. The Buckingham Palace. I was protecting it as one of the guards, and that's what they do when they walk back and forth. So I did that to, you know, give credit to London, all my fans in London.

Good day, mate. Good day, good game, mate. Good touchdowns, mate. What is that? Good game, good touchdowns. All right. Hey, lad. I touchdowns, Mike. Good grunk, grunk. Good game. Good touchdowns. All right. I don't have a London accent. It's a it's a bloody chav. Now, the time I did do the Frankenstein was actually when I was in Tampa

when you didn't want to come down with a stool. I'm always going to remind you of that. OK. You know, you know, I wanted you there. Humidity makes my skin break. It does. It does. Humidity does. I remember that one practice in Tampa one year when we were in the Patriots. It was a 9 a.m. practice and dude, I was tapping out. I wanted to cry.

That was 2012. I wanted to cry. It was 2012. I was only like weird young bucks too. I wanted to cry. Oh, that was hot. It was the worst practice of my life. Oh, worse situation ever.

We got off the plane that night before. It was the hardest practice to being in that. The worst is when you're running And your your feet are so soaking sloppy wet. You could just feel the It's like you do you go and you slide and you get a blister because your toes and your sock It's like you don't slide cool and then you went out to practice literally. All right, so Frankenstein Tampa Bay All right It's all it was weird destroying the Lions and I scored another touchdown from Blaine

Gabbard the first player the second half and I did the Frankenstein was it on Halloween yes no I wasn't it was in December but I just did the Frankenstein just to do the Frankenstein I fucking love it yeah it was it was it was a proud moment because that was my only Frankenstein I always wanted to do Frankenstein and that was the first time I did Frankenstein It was the only time I did Frankenstein. So I'm just glad I got to do Frank I mean, yeah, Robbie Frankenstein you should definitely always do Frankenstein I mean, I basically am Frankenstein. So I kind of am always doing what do you think daddy?

Frankenstein Here's the movie break with that even we're yeah.. Oh kids names. There. I am there's Frankenstein Rob I also dressed up as Frankenstein at a Halloween party for the New England Patriots for the kids of course you know it was a Halloween party for the kids that's a good Frankenstein came to Gillette Stadium, and I was Frankenstein I'm too short to be a Frankenstein. I'd be like Eddie Munster. I did the face painting I put the gloves on so we should do you Frankenstein and I'll do little Eddie Munster with my little Widows Peak little vampire like little kid Mike Myers Who will not die?

invincible brute Got a knife in his hand Jack Lambert Jack Lambert looks like he's Mike Myers. I'll go with uh Always comes back is that Myers Mike Myers. I'll go with uh... Always Comes Back, is that Myers? Mike Myers, right? He's always never dead. Always Comes Back. He's still going.

Still has movies coming. His comebacks are still going? Yes. That's fucking Tom Brady. Just what? Is that Tom Brady? Is he coming back this year? He is coming back.

Is he coming back? Is he coming back? Is he the Michael Myers of Halloween? I'll tell you one Mike that might want him. Mike McDaniel's down in Miami. Ooh! Mike McDaniel's in Miami. No doubt about him. Mike McDaniel's down in Miami. Ooh. Mike McDaniel's in Miami. He might, won't.

Mike Myers, Tom Brady. Mm-hmm. All right. Freddy Krueger. That's a match, that's a match. But maybe not a match made in heaven, but it's a match. What about Freddy Krueger? Oh, he's scary.

So, haunting your dreams slash nightmares. He haunts you. Yeah, he's not like a killer. He's kind of nice a little bit in ways. Yeah, but he he haunts you yeah, he's not like he's not like a killer It's kind of nice a little bit is he yeah, but he just haunts you it's not like he's killing you right You don't kill. I don't remember those movies. I honestly I was a Halloween movies guy with Michael Myers I got terrified and they're still going I actually was watching the last Michael Myers movie on a plane Like a year and a half ago is the new holiday latest Halloween that came out and I Swear to you I was on a plane and I was scared shitless and I turned it off after the first 30 minutes

And I never ever done that with any movie in my life. I was that scared dude. I swear to you I Fucking that scared. Did you hit up the turner? I didn't say can I have a warm glass of milk, please? Oh, I just turned it off and just put on like a comedy to just try to get out of my mind. It was scary. So who's Freddy Krueger? Oh, well, if we're talking on the defensive side of the ball, current players like Max Crosby, Crosby, Crosby, Crosby could be. I think Lamar would haunt my dreams if I was a defensive coordinator.

Lamar Jackson. I mean, Jesus fucking is he gonna run is he not gonna run? What if he feels like he doesn't want to run today and all the weapons everywhere like he's a he's a nightmare Paying Manny hate he haunt the defensive coordinators forever Tom. He could be put in there, but he's also Mike Myers Yes, he's just Mike. Just won't die. Yeah, just keeps going my homes He could be put in there, but he's also Mike Myers. Yeah, he's just Mike. He just won't die. Yeah, just keeps going. Mahomes, I mean, he's fucking terrifying to dream about if you're another team. And like, he's playing his worst football ever and he still wins.

Vic back in the day being the first running quarterback to that ability. I mean, no one knew how to stop that. Freddy Cougar can go anywhere. What about Pennywise? Which one's Pennywise the clown? Pennywise, I never even seen Pennywise in penny wise which one's penny wise the penny wise? I never even seen penny wise in my life

Never seen it in my life never even heard of the name penny wise before but I've seen that clown phase before he slumbers for decades before reawakening to renew his own terror a book ended Super Bowl career of sorts Back from the dead. Back from retirement. I think it's a clown. I'd be like you or I.

Yeah. Yeah. But we're not clowns. Maybe like once every year. Slumbers for decades. But comes back for a reawakening. Oh, I mean, if we're talking like... Is JG Wauk gonna come back and play now, if the Texans need him.

Coming back. How many is he's out? This is his first year out, right? No. Second year. Second year. Yes. He still looks good. He does look good. He looks great. Actually, he looks he looks mammoth. Who's coming? Or what about Kurt Warner? Kurt Warner wasn't he in the NFL and they went and played arena football and then he came back to the NFL and bags and groceries dreams for back some groceries came back there. Did he win a Super Bowl? Yeah, he won. Yeah, he won. Greatest show on turf. Yeah, with the with the St. Louis Rams. St. Louis. Yeah. So,

you know, Kurt almost went back to bat. Yeah, almost did. But guess who beat him? Patriots. 2000 Brady. Patriots. Bill Belichick. Yeah, so that's a good category. And our last category, Brady Patriots, Bill Belchuk. Yeah, so that's a good category in our last category One that got me as a child my I was terrified of this Chucky Child's play I used to I was like eight years old. My brother scared me so bad once When I was a kid with the doll that he ordered that I was too scared to shower But with the I was too scared to shower. But with the, I was too scared to shower, so my mom, because my brother terrified me with this

when I was like seven or six, could have been 12, made my brother sit in the bathroom while I showered because I thought something was gonna come get me in the shower. So he had to sit on the toilet. My mom was sitting there. So you have to do this You see what you did your little brother?

So who's the Chucky I can't relate to that I'm sorry I was never a doll guy either I don't know you have a sister so you probably know a lot about dude. That's not terrifying I don't know you have a sister, so you probably know a lot about dude. That's not terrifying I only tell play wasn't tearing I never really watched Childplay never really watched any movie. I probably seen ten minutes worth in like it was your original I wasn't really watched the original Chucky. I've seen you know clip. It's all the original Style yeah, it's fucking terrifying. It is it's terrifying. I mean John Gruden looks like Chucky Yeah, he does John Gruden is definitely a Chucky He looks like him. He does that Chucky face. Have you seen him on it? Have you seen him on Instagram?

Yeah, now I have I don't follow John Gruden. Yeah, this I didn't even know he was on Instagram, dude It's so good. He has this one where he's sitting there and he's like got a coach's sweat from being on like a treadmill for like ten minutes, you know coaches get all sweaty and he's like, yeah, I'm sweating right now. I just got done watching Jaden Daniels film. Like, what the fuck? I love Gruden, man. Gruden loves football.

He loves football. It'll be interesting to see if he can get back in. It'll be interesting. Woodhead, kind of looks like Chuckie. Oh, Woodhead. Little doll out there. Yes, Woodhead, They said all looks like Chuckie. Oh, Woodhead. Yes. A little doll out there. Yes. Woodhead. Oh, for real. I hear he's Danny Woodhead. Oh man. He was like Chuckie though. He was tricky. He'd be like, yo, you really want to practice today? Like he was the, he was the most negative positive guy of all times.

Like, yo, like, like, like you really want to practice? Like, why are we playing football? Like, like when's the bi-week? When is is the bye week? We need to get on a vacation. I'm like, yo, it's the second week in training camp, Danny. What? Get away from me. I'm trying to enjoy lunch and get ready for practice. And you're trying to frickin convince me that I should not go out there.

And then he goes out there. The most positive guy, let's go, guys. Let's go. And he's running full speed every play. I'm like, what the few? Just saying he didn't want to practice. This is what he would do. He'd come in, you guys. He'd come in speed every play. I'm like, what the f- you just saying you don't want to practice? This is what he would do. He'd come in, and he'd guys, he'd come in, and he'd guys,

does anyone else's hamstrings feel like they're about to blow up? Yeah. Like, that's what he would say. He'd go, does anyone else think that their calf muscle's about to fall off? And I'd be like, do we got to go do a double day dirty knot? Like, that's how he would do it.

And I'd be like, no. And he he'd be like yeah, but just think about it You just think about your hamstring Like it's blowing up and then you see what had a practice if you lighten it up You're fucking fine full speed come on. Woody. He was great. Good luck. He's actually he's qualifying He's trying to qualify for golf again. I mean he's he's a fucking stud golfer I hope he gets it this year. Yo, if he took that technique that he was doing with us in the facility, like, oh, is your hamstring about to blow?

If he goes up to a golfer, like, hey, are you feeling it today? Man, I'm not really feeling it. He can, because golfing is all about mind games. It's about mental. Yo, you got to get up in the head. So he can get in the golfer's heads, and he can just win just doing that technique, right? Let's go, Chuck. Get in the heads. Let's go. Let's go, Chuck. Get in the heads.

Let's go, Woody, let's go. Well, that was fun. Halloween edition of Dudes on Dude. That's been another episode of Dudes on Dudes. What could we do better next episode? What could we do better next? What could we do better next episode, Jules? I'm not sure, so comment, let us know.

Let us know. Let us know, please, we wanna get better. We're coachable. Yes, we are coachable. Hey, one thing about us, we were very coachable. That's my feeling. You told Rob Gronkowski one thing once, it never happened again.

It was a little different with me, I had to, it was a little defiant. But with Rob, very coachable. I'm very coachable as well. Yeah, but you stay coachable because of that. Yeah, you stay coachable because of that. You have to. If you don't listen the first time,

they still have something to coach. And that's what you were doing. You were staying coachable. I wanted them to coach me. Yeah, so you just did it wrong on purpose. they could coach you even though you knew what to do, but you wanted to get really coached. So then if there was another scenario another situation of you know of the type of route that you're running and where the guy is located you knew what to do on every scenario. That's how coachable you are.

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