Games with Names - Dudes on the Return of Football

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

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I go, I don't need anything. I just want to see how you're doing. He's just excited for the season. The same guy, always. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. And I'm Rob Granckowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes

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Yes it is Jules. It's only July and everyone's excited for the NFL season. And what's crazy is there's a game now in July. Obviously it's the Hall of Fame game. It really doesn't matter much. There's very little meaning to the game. It's like the third stringers, four stringers playing the whole time, but it just feels good to just Sniff the game of football in the air and knowing it's back and it's right around the corner from NFL kickoff week one 1000% now for viewer foot like football being back in Hall of Fame game is cool for like the first play and then you're like

These guys are barely playing, the playing surface is dog shit, this, you know what I mean? But for a player, when you're a player that gets to play in the Hall of Fame game, I never got to play in the Hall of Fame game, but you get like, these teams can take advantage of having this extra time together, these extra padded practices.

Don't you get extra time if you're in the Hall of Fame game? Yeah, you start about five days earlier. Five days earlier around there. Yep. And right now with with the practice regulations of padded practices and stuff that team, even though they're not going to play their starters in that that game, they get to go to pads one week earlier. So that those offensive linemen get to hit together One week before is that not a little advantage? Has anyone ever thought of it that way? It's a little advantage or you can look at it as it's more wear and tear throughout the whole time

But if you play it's depending on your team Situationally depending on your team if you're a team that needs the reps like a lot of these young football teams do this could be advantage If you're an old veteran team team you could still have a productive week I know it's gonna be bullshit for older guys that are you know, you got to come back a week earlier Yeah, that sucks. But you know if used right this could be this could be great for these teams Chargers and Detroit Detroit having an one one extra game for these new coordinators to go in. John Morton, Kevin Shepard. Like these guys haven't called plays yet. To have one extra game to go in and have a situational game day operation, communicating plays into a team,

hearing and communicating with other coaches that are in the box and seeing what they're seeing. Like this is big deal for, you know, the, for the Detroit Lions, I bet. I mean, if they're taking it that way. Let me get your take on this too, Julian. When football season was always right around the corner and I showed up to training camp, like my mind and my body just was always telling me it was football season, it was like, there's this on off switch body just was always telling me it was football season. It was like there's this on off switch and it was always turned on the day that

I walked into training camp. How is your body feeling right now being retired for a couple of years with football season now on its way? Does you still got that feeling or is it a little bit different being retired? Well, it's crazy that you, you say that Rob. I was, uh, I was across the pond over in London doing a bake show, the Great American Bake Show against Antonio Gates, Vaughn Miller and Mina. Mina Kimes. Well, shout out to Antonio Gates, 2025 NFL Hall of Fame class. Antonio Gates, you the man.

Appreciate everything that he is. We'll get into him a little later. and Antonio Gates, 2025 NFL Hall of Fame class, Antonio Gates, you the man, appreciate everything that you've done for the game. We'll get into him a little later. All right. We'll get into, but I was over there doing that show and then I went over to Italy and was chilling in the Mediterranean. And like, I swear to God,

I woke up one morning and my hamstrings, like were talking to me like, hey buddy, like you you should what are you doing you should be out you should be out going somewhere and getting right like I still have the body clock to like that anxiety of excitement anxiety like a week before you report like and that was like a week before and I just started having it it's crazy how you I mean, we did this for a long time. You I don't I think your body's still in the clock like

in the spring and stuff. I'm always like, you know, I feel like I should be in a camp coming up or I still get those feelings. Do you not too much anymore after the first year to have been retired, I would my body clock would be telling me all right, football is right around the corner. It actually started this year. When a couple of teams went to training camp and I was like, I signed on to social media. I was like, what the heck football is going. There's guys going in the training camp. I was like, it's like July 17th right now. That was shocking to me. I was not ready for that situation. So

that's when you know, you've been retired for a couple of years then, because then your body clock is getting away from its normal routine. But the one thing I got prepared, you know, you know, every single year when I was playing is this is this is how I did it. Jules like I wasn't the guy that was just focusing on my routes, like what pitter pattering through drills and all that. It was like, OK, training camps right around the corner. All right. I'm going to get a couple of workouts in and four days before I show up. I'm going to get the biggest workout impossible and then take off those three days.

So then when I show up, I'm excited to work again and I'm ready to go. And that workout that I would do would be the most beastly workout of all times. Four days before I had a report. And I would push the sled for about 30 minutes. I would do a whole lower body work. I would do a whole upper body work and I would go out and I would run 100s and I'd be sore for like two days. And then the soreness would go away

and I would show up the camp and kaboom, I would be ready to go. And that was my routine going into the season every single year to get me ready. Just one massive, massive workout and boom, it just brought me back. I wish I could still do that and be recovered in a day or two,

but times are different. And that's how I know my body clock has changed a little bit as well. Rob, I've been seeing you doing all these T-Mobile spots. What is this? Yeah, so it's a campaign. It's Friday night 5G lights campaign that T-Mobile started last year.

And last year, Iona High School in Oklahoma won it all. And what was cool is that when we were shooting dudes. Wait, wait, wait, you won a high school? No, Iona High School won the campaign. So the campaign. Oh, Iona, I thought you said you own the high school. No, I own a high school, won the campaign. So the campaign. Oh, I own a, I said you own. No, I own a high school. How do you own a high school? I should own a high school and teach these kids what to do and get on the right track jewels. You know, I would be the just over principal teacher, you know, student counselor, all that stuff. Yeah. Principal Rob. Oh, that's's that sounds pretty good. But T-Mobile created a campaign last year,

and it's for all small town high schools out there and any small town high school can enter. And last year, the grand prize was two hundred fifty thousand dollars in total. And you got a whole high school makeover football field, high school football field makeover. So you would get like a new jumbotron. You'll get a new weight room, actually a grand fitness weight room,

which is super unique. What else you got? Bleachers, all cheerleaders get all new uniforms, all that good stuff. And this year we ramped it up to a whole nother level. So now 450 schools can win $5,000. Then there's 25 schools that can win $25,000 this year. And then there's going to be one school that wins the ultimate grand prize.

That's $1 million. And that includes obviously a home field makeover, another grand fitness weight room, a trip to the SEC championship game and a whole VIP trip. Yes, a VIP trip. That is correct. And a whole bunch more. And if you want to enter this, if you're a small town high school and you guys need a new stadium or just need some upgrades, you can enter a Friday night 5g lights.com and Joel speaking about the T-mobile campaign and all these high schools that can enter the Friday night 5g lights, you know, promo that's going on.

On top of that, if you're a high schooler that makes a sick play, send it our way here at Dudes on Dudes, and we will feature that play live and then determine what kind of dude you are as well. So, for example, that catch that you had in the Super Bowl versus Atlanta Falcons Julian, if a high schooler makes a similar catch a one-handed grab That's awesome and gets the crowd going send it in we will feature it and then we will grade what kind of dude that you are I love that. What kind of dude is that play of? The catch what's that dude dog? That's a dog right there. We know you're a dog Jules. You just want to hear it again

No, no, you ain't no Pretty good sounds pretty good from a Couple thousand miles away post your highlight and tag dudes on dudes and use the hashtag Friday night dudes Also, we have the live show coming up August 28th we're lining up some cool guests. You guys got to go out check it out mark your calendars it's August 28th 8 p.m. at the MGM Music Hall in Boston Massachusetts tickets are available at Ticketmaster.com hurry. They are going fast. 80% of the show is sold out. So, you know, we got a couple more here.

Couple more seats. Hurry up. That is going fast, Jules. And we're coming up with some fun stuff as well. If you have any ideas, please send them our way. It's like you high schoolers. If you guys make a great place, send it our way. And on top of it, if you got any fun stuff that you want us to do at the live

show, August 28th, send it our way. Also send some ideas. What type of action we should do. It's August 28th. Papa Gronk is going to be in town too. He can't miss the live show. He missed the first one that was at fanatics fast. He was disappointed.

So he's coming into town for this one as well. Ralphie may be there. Camille wants to go. She already stole the games with names Jersey from the last live show. And this one's going to be popping because now we're more comfortable jewels. We know what we're doing in front of a crowd. MGM grand holds 4,500. We're 80% sold out and we in Boston, we're champs there. We need to sell it out. All 4,500 tickets need to sell it out all 4500 tickets need to be sold out and we need to feel that energy. It's a way we can connect with our fans once again here in the New England area. Jules, I'm going to bring a Super Bowl ring. I never get to wear my Super Bowl rings ever.

So I'm going to bring a couple of them to the live show as well. I think you should bring one or two of yours, not not all three, but you should bring one or two. All right, one or two. I'll bring a couple. I think you should bring one or two of yours, not not all three, but you should bring one or two. All right. One or two. I'll bring a couple. I'll bring a couple. News from the NFL. Let's get into it, huh?

Mm hmm. It might be July, but there's plenty of news going around the league. Let's catch up on some of these big stories, Roberto. Yeah, let's let's see what the big stories are here. I mean, it's just July. I don't know how but the NFL can just create a storyline with anything that kickoffs in 45 days. I mean, the first big story, which is unbelievable. And the fans absolutely love is that the

Matting ratings come out and think about this jewels. And this just reminds me that I was on the cover of Madden 2017, which was super special. Like that just triggered that memory. So that was really cool. So you were in the 99 club, seven players in the 99 club, seven players this year. You got Saquon Barkley, Lane Johnson, Josh Allen, Jamar Chase, Lamar Jackson, Justin Jefferson, Miles Garrett.

Who do you think got snubbed there? Because those those seven players right there deserve it. Most surprising is Lane Johnson just because he's an offensive lineman, but he deserves it because he plays. He has like a torn meniscus quad, whatever it is, and he goes through it and he doesn't even deal with pain. He just fights through anything and just takes it out on his opponent. But it's really cool to see an offensive lineman on there.

But who do you think got snubbed from this year's 99 club? How is Patrick Mahomes out of 99? It's a good point. How he literally had a depleted team last year. All of his receivers were hurt. His offensive line got shattered. They had two losses last year. They go to the Super Bowl for-peat this guy's not a 99. I think that's crazy I think he's he's still the best player in football Josh Allen and Lamar still haven't beat him. Mm-hmm

Like when it mattered And he didn't even have the the teams and I don't want to hear that Josh Allen don't have a team. I think that little secure dude's hella good. He's got some good, he got some playmakers. He's got two good tight ends. Yeah. Great cooks is over here running his, his back. He's running hard cooks at a great, great year. I mean, who do you think got snubbed?

Do you think anyone got snubbed? I mean, the Patrick Mahomes debate is very, you know, a highly debatable subject right there. If he should be in the 99 club, and especially I think so, because he helped me out with that T mobile commercial actually, for the Friday night 5g lights, he's part of it as well that campaign. So he did a great job with me. So I'm just being biased now that he should be in the 99 club for just doing the high school campaign

just being biased now that he should be in the 99 club for just doing the high school campaign, uh, promotion. Um, but, uh, who do I think those seven guys are well-deserved? Um, Derek Henry's pretty beastly. Uh, you know, he's definitely should be up there, uh, especially with all the years that he produced consistent consistently. That's also, I feel like what they're looking at is consistency. It's not like you can have one year where you ball and then you become a 99. I don't think it works like that at all.

So Derek Henry's been very, very consistent. So he's kind of a snob. I would say he deserves to be a 99 at least once in his career. And I don't think he has been so at least once. Who really no one else pops to my mind, you know, currently, uh, Oh, the D end, um, from, um, Pittsburgh and from, uh, Las Vegas Raiders, um, um, Max Crosby and TJ Y TJ Y like those guys can definitely be 99, especially, I mean, they're both became the highest paid players that, you know, outside of a quarterback and league

history this year at one point in the off season, so they can pop both be 99s very easily. I mean, so it's just a debate. It's, it's kind of like the NCAA who runs the NCAA. No one knows who makes the rat matting ratings. No one has any single clue. I think they probably know who makes the batting rankings, but I don't know who runs in simply. I don't think anyone does.

Talking to college shout out to Dion, man. He, he, he beat cancer. We're thinking about you coach prime. I mean, he got it all removed. Said he, he had calls with Randy during his fight. I mean, now he's cancer free free and he's going to be on the sidelines. I mean, you expect nothing less from Coach Prime. You know, he's he knew he was going to coach. He was shot out the D.I. and and not just what's going on with him with his health.

You know, obviously, we're all thinking about you, man, and we're glad that you're cancer free now. But also what he has done for the, you know, the game of college football. He's brought so much awareness to the University of Colorado, and he's made it that much more fun to watch. Just imagine if Coach Prime wasn't there. I mean, you won't be tuning into games majority of the time on Saturdays and and feeling that action, having that anxiety of of all right, what's Coach Prime in the Colorado

Buffalo is going to do this week? So, Coach, we appreciate you on the field, off the field. And also we appreciate your fight and becoming cancer free, because I'm sure you're going to inspire a lot of people out there that are going through it right now that do have cancer. So keep up the good work. And we're wishing you the best this year, you know, and hopefully you win some some games and keep making exciting.

Heck yeah. Travis Hunter. Offense, defense, a snap count is a headline so far. Eighty three total snaps, thirty six snaps on offense, forty seven snaps on defense. had some notable pass breakups Made some notable nice catches Do you think he's he's gonna be offense or defensive guy? Do you think this is gonna continue having a balanced attack? I really do think it's gonna continue why I think so because he's putting it out there He's manifesting that he wants to play both sides of the ball.

And the Jacksonville Jaguars didn't just trade up to number two to just get them and not let him do what he wants to do. And he was saying it from the beginning. Hey, I want to play both sides of the ball. And if Jacksonville listened to him in the, you know, in the pre draft visits and they know that he wants to do that and he's determined to want to do it while then they've already been showing, Hey, here you go. We're going to have a balance going on throughout practice. You're going to have half the reps here, half the reps on defense and offense.

And it's been working. He's been shining on both sides. I'm not there to say, Hey, maybe he should just stick to offense or maybe he should just stick to defense, but this was their plan from the beginning. So why go off track if he's performing, you know, it doesn't even have to be at a high level. He just has to be performing at a starting level, which it seems like he is. Jules, what do you think about this situation?

I think they're still trying to figure out what he's best at. I mean, that's what training camps for they're going to throw them out there as much as they can. They're going to see what his load management type is and how his body takes it. And then they're ultimately going to see what's best for the team. You know, if Trevor Lawrence needs him on offense and Trevor Lawrence likes him a lot, then he's probably going to be on offense with, you know, a package and third down on defense or in the red area in defense or, or vice So I still think that they're they're trying to figure out Just like every other team with their rookies and and their free agents their newer players

They're trying to figure out what his strengths his best parts are his game and his weakest parts are to his game And how it can help the team so yeah, I think it's to continue, but then I think it'll, it's going to, he's going to stick to one side and have packages on the other. I don't think he'll play the whole game on both sides. I don't think his body will be able to sustain it. I like what you're saying. I really do like the balance attack right now. This, you know, nitpick, you know, what he's best at

and what's best for the team. But in the end, I really do think what he is really better at, he'll be there full time. And then what he's not so good at, you know, not as good as, you know, if he's not as good as, you know, being a wide receiver as he is a defensive back, then like you just said, he'll have packages, you know, put in for him, which I think would be the best scenario for his long term well being in the NFL is to have wide receiver packages, score some touchdowns in the red zone and then be a full time defensive back and George, that's what I would have been.

If I played defensive, I would have been a killer. I would have gotten the quarterback. I was actually all state defensive end in high school and I only had eight receptions my senior year as a tight end. But if I imagine if I just played defensive end and then it was like red zone, Brady would just wave me in and I would just go out there and score like three touchdowns a game only have 12 offensive snaps. That would be legendary. That's not basically what Mike Vrabel did. Yeah, Rob. Yeah.

He was goal line package. There's a difference between goal line package and red zone package. I'm the red zone package. He's just was goal line package. There's a difference between goal line package and red zone package. I'm the red zone package. He's just a goal line package. He's the full package in the coaching world now. I can give him that. He's done it all. We'll get into it. Yeah, we'll get into it.

But he ain't he ain't the Robbie G red zone pack. He just he's a solid fullback goal line package, taking him from the linebacker spot. Yeah, I agree. I agree. You know, Robbie T, he's he's a he's a he's a hell of a football player. No doubt about that. No progress in the Micah Parsons contract talks in Dallas. Entering his final year of his rookie deal, this fifth year option will pay him 24 million. Had 12 sacks last year. Fans chanting which I

could probably, I thought I heard down in Oxnard, pay Micah, pay Micah at camp. Do you think they'll come to a deal soon Rob? I think they'll come to a deal a deal soon, Rob? I think they'll come to a deal soon. And the Dallas Cowboys have actually already screwed themselves a few times this year. Because if they got the deal done at beginning of the off season, they're going to have to they were they could have paid them a lot less than what they're going to have to pay them now. It's all working and Michael Parsons, you know, favor because Max

Crosby signed as the highest paid player in the NFL. That wasn't a quarterback. And then all of a sudden miles Garrett became the highest paid defensive end, you know, and not just D for he's a defensive end, but he became quarterback, non quarterback, but he's a DN just like, I mean, basically DN just like Mike Parsons is. And then all of a sudden it's TJ watt now who got highest pay contract of all time. That's not a quarterback. So if the Dallas

Cowboys signed him before that, they could have saved a couple million dollars, but now he's going to have to be the highest paid eventually. So it's costing the Dallas Cowboys, you know, the longer that they wait, but I do think a deal will get done in place because he is kind of the face outside of Dak Prescott. He is kind of the face of the Dallas Cowboys, but he is that as you know, as on on the defensive side of the ball.

But what's crazy about this is like just blatantly talking about it. We're coming from a different world, Julian. We played with the New England Patriots where lips were sealed, where you don't talk much to the media what's going on. So and it's a different era as well. It's just mind blowing to me, though, still, because we came up in that era with the Patriots, that they just talk about contracts to the media just like that. Like, imagine if that was happening with us when we were playing in our heyday.

Like we would have been traded like right on the spot, probably. Yeah, it's but it's also changed. Yes, it has. It's you know, you know. Other players do it and other players get a reward rewarded with it. I mean, I think Jerry's probably doing some like Jedi stuff right now where Jedi mind tricks were he probably wants him to be the highest paid guy and he wants the last guy before the season starts. So then that's fresh and everyone's, I don't know.

Jerry ends up always paying the guys. That's the difference. Like we have a question on here. Who'd you rather negotiate against Bill or Jerry pays his guys. Bill would just get ready. So I'd rather go with Jerry. It'll be longer, but Jerry gonna pay you. Jerry pay you.

Yep, he sure does. Dak Prescott tore his ACL, paid him, made him the highest paid player. You know what I mean? CD Lamb, highest paid receiver. Ferguson just got paid. He's probably up there, one of the highest paid tight ends. I don't know the contract details,

but he's getting cheddar. I saw his contract details. It was a good, it was very fair. It was, I think it was right at market value. Jerry pays his guys. It's just, maybe he doesn't care about paying a couple extra. Maybe he wants the headline to having the highest paid guy. That's what I think. Jerry don't care. Cause Jerry going to pay him? Great point. Or is he going to get or is he going to get like he's not he's never got rid of

like the high high name guy and Micah is the high name guy when CD lamb was going through it when DAC was going through it. You know what I mean? So pay him. Pay Micah. Pay him. The separate caps are going up. Might as well just get it done as soon as possible, you know?

I know. Might as well, so it's not a distraction anymore. Sources also say Terry McLaurin and the commanders aren't even close. Now, I think they got to pay him. The quarterback is making nothing. You know, Jayden Daniels is making nothing right now. You got Debo Samuel Samuel who's coming in

making 20 million probably I think right on his deal. You can't have an even though this guy got traded to your team you can't have Debo Samuel making more money than Terry McLaurin in that room. When Terry McLaurin he's had like five years of a hundred year hunter catch seasons he's had he's been there since there through three name changes he's's had unbelievable stats. He's clearly the number one favorite target of your young future quarterback. You gotta pay this guy and get him, get him happy. I love Terry McLaurens. I think he's a baller and you know, he's quiet. He does his, he does his shit, doesn't say much about

it. And he's got numbers. If you look, where's numbers? What are his numbers? He single handedly kept the commanders kind of in the game when they were facing the Philadelphia Eagles last year in the NFC championship game, I mean, without him taking that slant to the house and verse an all pro quarterback Darius Slay, the commanders would have been way out of that game and they would have

absolutely no chance, you know, in the championship NFC, NFC game. He's had what he's had 58, 87, 77, 77, 79, 82 catch seasons. I mean, he's averaging yards. He's getting the ball. 13 touchdowns last year. 13 touchdowns. 13, 13 touchdowns. year 13 touchdowns 13 13 touchdowns you got to pay him DK just got 33 million now I would say

These guys should have paid him earlier as in the commander should have paid him more than you know I mean, I I don't ever question Jerry cuz Jerry always gets it done and Jerry has that kind of power where he can do that and play like Micah is still at camp, right? Cause so he knows he's probably gonna get paid. He probably doesn't like how it's going down. Jerry gonna probably pay him. But you know, this, I don't know, like you gotta get Terry McLaurin happy.

Get this guy, like this is valuable time that your young quarterback going into year two needs with his star in camp. Those those reps together. He's not practicing, right? Mm hmm. How do you think this situation ends up? I think they got to pay him.

Mm hmm. I mean, right now you can pay him. Mm hmm. Debo is making 23 this year. What's what's McLaurin making? Mm hmm. Eight, eight. Now he got a big deal a couple of years ago, but nothing like what it is. Dibo is making 23 this year. What's what's McLaurin making? Eight. Eight. Now he got a big deal a couple of years ago, but nothing like what it is, you know, to what these current wide receivers signed for.

15 million. That can be. Yeah. Cap hits at 25, but it's still it's still his cap hit is lower than what guys are making as salaries. So they need to extend them because then you can make that cap hit shorter this year. Base of 15. You make a $15 million this year. And then if you do the little contract extension as well, you can actually probably lower that,

you know, salary cap hit that's 25 million, probably make it like 15 or 20 million, just depending on the smarts of the GM and how they move the money around. So don't know how they do it, but they do it every time. So every single you extend them, make it less. I don't know how it goes, but you extend them. It makes it less. Let's kick it down the road. We never really have to worry about kicking it down the road because the salary cap is always going fucking high. All right. Have we not been seeing what how he Rosameman has been doing. This guy pays everyone.

He pays everyone and kicks it down the road. Okay. The salary cap just got $30 million more. It's crazy. I still don't get it. I still don't get it. I still don't get the cap. I've been around this league now, 20, 15 years.

Don't know anything about it. I was always told our teams had no money. Expansion. And no one got paid. Expansion. I was always told our teams never had money to pay anyone. No one had huge contracts. I look at the Philadelphia Eagles, everyone has huge contracts.

How do they have money? How? Keep going, Jules. Expansion, expansion of the NFL into Europe even Spain now Madrid even has a game now That's I got one. That's how you're going to Germany. We're going to we're going to Australia next year I think there's a Japan trip coming here soon South America. Oh, yeah, Brazil, baby. Mm-hmm back in Brazil Giants named Russell Wilson as their starting quarterback. Just talk to Dayball.

I just called him. He goes, what do you need? I go, I don't need anything. I just want to see how you're doing. I just want to see how you're doing. And Dayball like Dayball, like he's just like, yeah, he's just excited for the season. The same guy always.

And that's like a strength right there. Because I was calling on him like, shit, after watching, given they're running back away, he goes wins MVP, Super Bowl, this, that, you know what I mean? There's been a lot of stuff for him and they're in the hot seat. And you would never know just from talking to him.

And that's just the kind of coach he is. He's not, he's gonna let, he ain't gonna let that stuff handle him. He's just gonna go and that's just the kind of coach he is. He's not, he's going to let, he ain't going to let that stuff handle him. He's just going to go and he's going to coach. Dable's an optimistic guy. Cool as a cucumber. Always bringing the juice. Every single day. Had juice on the call.

Always has juice. I admire him to always have juice. If he's weighing 250 pounds, he has juice. As somehow he goes on a diet and he's weighing 180 pounds, he has juice. The guy has juice and I love it. And it's good juice. Great juice. Cause sometimes you can have false juice.

Contagious. Yeah. It's contagious juice. I remember walking by your guys' room and you guys be playing fucking formation jeopardy and I just walk by and like man they have so much fun. They have so much juice in that room. Chatio had juice too though. Chatio had juice. Oh, Chatio definitely has juice. Love Chatio.

Getting back to the Giants. I'm excited for them this year. They have an unbelievable defensive line. Abdul Carter looks like a monster out there. They already have Dexter Lawrence, Raheem Nuez, Roaches, who's in the 11th year, Harris on the edge also. They got a couple of guys. They got the third rounder, another defensive end out of Toledo, Darius Alexander. They got an couple of guys, they got the third rounder, another defensive end out of Toledo, Darius Alexander.

They got like an unbelievable defensive line. Malik Nabors is a stud. The Tracy running back kid last year was damn good. And you know Russell Wilson's gonna take care of the football, right? Russell Wilson had what, 30 touchdowns and six interceptions, 10 interceptions last year. What was his stats?

He was pretty effective. He played well. Effective. Yeah, he played well. He's not the Russell Wilson of the past where he's going to make 10 guys miss and throw a moonshot ball 60 yards down the field with his athleticism. But he's going to take care of the football,

and he's going to probably put you in the best play. And I think day ball could work with that. So I'm excited for that. Well, a Giants team, all those Giants talk Jules. What's the over under? You would say for wins this year for the New York Giants. Oh, Nike's. What is what is the what Vegas got him at? No, I want to hear yours.

Where would you put so I before before I hear Vegas, I would say. Eight and a half. I was going to say eight. What's Vegas? Five and a Vegas say eight and a half. I was going to say eight. What's Vegas? Five and a Vegas has five and a half. Oh, I'm taking overall day. So I'm going over, putting my bet in the fan duel right after this. And then one more thing on the giants and, and, and naming

Russell Wilson as their starter. I think it's good for Jackson Dart to see Russell Wilson as a professional. Okay. Everyone can say what they want about Russell Wilson, but as a professional, you know, he goes to work and brings his a game positive attitude every single day. That's good for other guys to see. You know, he goes in there and has a pre-workout that he does to get himself warmed up. You know, he's got his probably body guy waiting for him in the parking lot because he's probably not allowed there anymore after the last case.

But you see him taking care of his body. You, you definitely see Russell Wilson watching extra game film and probably is a nice enough guy to take in a rookie quarterback and say, Hey, why don't you come watch with me? That's the kind of guy he is. So I think this is great for their first round draft pick too. And Russell Wilson last year, basically through for 2,500 yards, 16 touchdowns and just five interceptions in 11 games.

16 and five. Like that's legit. And I feel like this year with Dable being his head coach, Dable can bring the best out of you. I feel like you can see Russell Wilson bringing back that old school mentality. Like from 2015, 2016, 2017 seasons when he was younger and making guys miss again and bringing the best out of them because that's what Dable does.

I had him as a coach for three years here in New England, Jules, and he gets the juice out of you and I feel like he can get the juice out of Russell Wilson as well, so don't be surprised if you see him making some plays like back in the hayday when he was in his prime prime. And he got Malik neighbors and Russell throws great deep balls. Okay. Jules, let's get, you know, to some Patriots talk. There's a buzz back in new England and the crowds are flocking to Gillette.

Let's hear some of these Patriots stories so far, a little camp talk. What do you remember about early days of camp? I mean, I just remember I had to prove myself. I was a humble guy. I really was like, didn't really talk as much, you know, cause you just were trying to fit in and you wanted the respect from your peers. You wanted the respect from the older guys and walking in and running your mouth isn't going to get you that respect. It's going out on the football field and proving yourself.

So I just remember in training camp in the early, early days was that I just wanted to give it my best every single day. And also what I wanted to do on a daily basis was to show improvement. That's what's going to keep you around in the NFL as a young buck is showing that you're improving on a daily basis. If it's in the NFL as a young buck is showing that you're improving on a daily basis. If it's in the weight room, if it's on the field and some type of route that if it's some type of route that you're running, if you're improving in the blocking technique, if you're just showing that you're willing to get

better on a daily basis, you will stick around. And if you don't make the team, the club, the 53 man roster, while they know that you're a guy that wants to work and get better. So, boom, there's going to be room for you on that practice squad no matter what. So I remember those days of just trying to be the best and improving every day and get the respect of the older guys and just going balls out. Because when you're a young buck like that, it don't matter how you're feeling. You can go balls out. You use your body like you're getting frickin drilled on a daily.

You use your body like, I don't know, like a rag every single day and in a car wash, just frickin getting abused, getting, getting wet, getting dried off, it doesn't matter. You're used all over the place. So, uh, those are, those are the things I kind of remember Jules. And also one thing I do remember is Rob Ninkovic. He tried covering me my second year in training camp and I was about 10 for 10 on him. He actually got my career booming because he built up my confidence.

He couldn't cover me. And if he was on me, I just jumped over him and make made all the catches right over his head. So thank you, Rob Ninkovic. Those are the days glory days. Was was Rob Ninkovic official slump buster? He was done for them. You put them on Robbie G when you need to get the confidence of the big fella. I don't know. Well, I was dominating everyone that year, Joel. So it wasn't just Ninkovic.

You dominated everyone a lot of years, bro. Yeah. Those early day camp days, man, be seen, don't be heard. Kind of just, did you get it? You had double days one year, right? I had double days actually my rookie year. And then after that, because then there was a lockout and we didn't have to go inside the facility for six months. And I remember I showed up and I was in the best shape of my life actually after that lockout. And it kind of proved that you actually don't truly need an

offseason. As long as you're really doing the right things outside of the facility, wherever you're at. But double days, how many guys are going to do the right thing? Not, not too many. That's why it's good to have an off season program and have everyone in the building to make sure everyone stays in top shape. There are guys that will, but it's not everyone. It's always good to be around your teammates as well. You know, throughout the whole entire year. What do you remember? Jules,

being a young buck Patriots training camp. One other thing. I remember is the crowds I mean the Patriots fans they show up. I remember Kevin Falk my friend my rookie year He looked around he goes don't people work here in New England and I was just laughing. I'm like, I guess not I mean, there's ten thousand eight thousand people here at just a training camp practice and a freaking Wednesday morning at 9 a.m I mean they show out for us. That's why New England best, you know the Boston area just a training camp practice and a freaking Wednesday morning at nine a.m. I mean, they show out for us. That's why New England best, you know, the Boston area, best sports town and all of America, they show up for their team

no matter what the situation is. I definitely remember the crowd. I mean, I went to Kent State like my my my senior night. We had like 400 people at our our game, the Division I game. So the first day we'd go out and there's 10, 15,000 people. It was like, you got nervous. I got nervous when I went out there

and they knew all the other guys, you know, and you're just kind of like a rookie or a slappy just running around. I remember I was catching punts before a practice and I muffed one in the crowd booed me and Bruce he came around and said they're just saying Brewers he kind of he kind of said something like that religious saying my name it's like make me feel better because I You know what? I mean? I think that's what I from what I remember But yeah crowd was always insane

Let's get into some of these Patriot headlines Keon white From what I remember. But yeah, the crowd was always insane. Let's get into some of these Patriot headlines. Keon White already has some aura in camp on Mike Rable. I think he's a pretty good head coach. I like him because he's a hard ass. He went on to drop another quote, leading with violence is always my type of stuff. He's looking cool and got caught resting in the locker room

in a blow up mattress that he brought. So he's, he's vested in camp life. That's, that's some good stuff to hear. I hear he's been, I hear he's in great shape. They always talk about him being a physical phenom. Yeah, why it's a monster. He really is. He's going to be one of their best players

in the defensive side of the ball. If we had a, you know, just give him a monster. He really is. He's going to be one of their best players in the defensive side of the ball. If we had a, you know, just give him a title jewels. If we had a great him right now, we would say that he's a dog because he has that mentality of just being a dog and he plays like he is plays like one of one. He plays like he's a dog on the field as well. And speaking of naps, I mean, naps are crucial in training camp. If you want to perform at your best, a 20 minute power nap, you know,

is what it's all about. So you got to tip your hat to him, even though he's an absolute dog, dogs get rest. Dogs sleep 16 hours out of 24 hours of the day. How do I know? Because my boys right over there to the right of me and he's napping right now. He already napped for four hours already today. But when that dog mentality need to come come out, they're always ready to go and they're always rested. So those naps are crucial. And speaking of naps, where was your favorite place to nap, Jules?

Because I know you were always napping whenever you had a chance. But where was your favorite place to nap in Gillette Stadium? Early in my career, I would go to the nap rooms and later in my career, I would go to the nap rooms and then later in my career, I would go do, I would float and nap in the float stations. I would sleep in the saltwater pods. And so like help me recover after practice.

But the nap is definitely crucial. Like even if it was 20 minutes, 15 minutes, I tried to get, I would try to get all my work in so I could get at least like a 40 minute. So that you could just get that. And then right after, you know, pound a cold brew and like try to wake up and not be cranky. Cause you were, I remember like you would just get

to that like nap and then you had to wake up. And like you would hear 50, the nap room, there was like the old locker room where the officials locker room They'd have like 30 beds and they'd all have curtains around it was like Kind of like an opium Vietnamese den But you seen all those movies and shit, you know you go like like almost like Inception when you'd go to the the drug spot where they wanted to put the people to sleep and they'd all be like lying down. That's what it looked like at like the nap

room with like eight foot dudes. You'd see these big ass fucking monster dudes that are on these like twin beds half their bodies off. These large men trying to sleep on these beds. It was crazy. Where'd you sleep? Did you where'd you now? Yeah, in the nap room jewels, you know, especially during training, especially during training camp, whenever I had 30 minutes, I would take a nap. I believe naps can recover you more than a good night's sleep. If you're achy, you got some bruises, you know, you got a little pain and you take a 20 minute,

deep power nap. You can sometimes wake up and be ready to go and all the aches and pains are gone, which is, which is special. That's why I'm a big believer in power naps and the nap room. Once we kind of got that new facility a couple years back and they upgraded that big time, there was about what six beds in a row on each side and I would just go in the nap room. It'd be dark and there'd be alarms going off like crazy because everyone would be waking up at different times.

So that's kind of what made it more difficult than that. And also you don't know who showered, you know, who showers, you don't know who's dirty at the moment. And everyone's using them now. They clean. And we're sharing. So I made sure I always put an extra, extra, extra large hoodie on. I'll put, put the freaking hood over my head.

And then I just laid on top of the bed and put my head on the pillar and just fell asleep for about 25 minutes like this and just took an extreme power nap. And then I woke up and I was always ready to go. Did anyone abuse the nap room? Not that I know of. Not that I know of. I don't either. And they would replace the sheets after every nap. of. Mm hmm. I don't either.

And they would replace the sheets after every nap. Hey, what the nap with the nap room tech technically be like the 50 yard line. Is that what you're trying to say, Jules, by abusing the nap room? Remember your you you did it on the 50 yard line. So instead of the 50 yard line, I did it in the nap room. What are we talking about? I don't know. We're just talking some movie stuff out there. Oh yeah. Maybe. Maybe now. What else do we got? We got, Raible was asked about doing media after he retires. His response, as soon as

I'm done with this, I'm going into the witness protection plan. Well, I'm in the witness protection plan right now. And I can tell you this, variable will always be doing media because he's always going to be a coach in the NFL. He loves coaching. You could tell he loves it. So as long as he's coaching, he's going to be doing media. So it's just going to be part of his life forever. And he's a great coach. He's great at it. And he's just a football guy. And I heard a story back when he was in Tennessee is that he had a cop in his office and he slept overnight on his cop majority of the time. So he didn't miss a

beat while being the head coach in Tennessee. And I'm sure it's going to be like that as well with the New England Patriots. So his wife hates him as a witness protection. Never sees him. He'll always be coaching. He'll always be doing media because he'll always be coaching. Do you think he's going to be more quotable this year than head coach of the Detroit Lions, Dan Campbell? I mean, he's he's always been pretty quotable.

He's a he's a witty motherfucker. Mm hmm. I think he's going to be up there. And it depends on if they're winning or losing. I mean, think he's going to be up there. It depends on if they're winning or losing. I mean, either way, he could be up there, but I don't think he'll be giving out good quotes if they're losing. If you were to go into witness protection program, where would you want to go? I would go back to Mallorca, Jules. No one knew me there.

And I could run around at the low key island, a lot of good stuff to do. And I would just swim in the ocean. When I see that they're looking for me, I just prick and put my scuba gear on and just go diving with all the sharks so I can just stay salty and they won't be able to find me. Dan Patrick says he's retiring here soon and he's moving to Italy. Wouldn't be a bad place. I just I would get a little I don't know. I mean, food, yeah, witness protection, the food's gotta be right.

And I tell you, anywhere you ate in Italy, it's just, the Italians have the food in Europe. I don't care what anyone says. You could say, you know, France, no, they don't. You could say, Spain, no, they don't. And could say Spain, no, they don't. And then all the others don't even get a spot at the table. I love German food, but the Italians, any pasta you eat, insane.

Back to Patriot Talk, Christian Gonzalez went out to the medical tent yesterday. Did he have a hammy? Mm-hmm, something went. Did you see it? Something went with his hammy. I didn't see it personally. I think it won't be too bad.

Probably a grade one, you know, which you don't really got to worry about. Actually he can get some rest now. It's good that he got some reps already. He's been in camp for about a week now, so it's not like he's been missing and he's going to be right back to power when he gets back. But a grade one is really nothing. That's about two, three weeks, he's gonna be ready for week one, no doubt. But just make sure that he comes back when he's full

strength because he's a huge piece of the New England Patriots defense. Without a doubt. Now, is this his first hammy? Yeah, I think he pulled his hammy. I think a couple years have a couple years ago. I don't like hammies. If it's multiple hammies. I think he pulled his hammy, I think, a couple years ago. I don't like hammies if it's multiple hammies. I don't like them. Those fast guys get them hammies.

Hey, you know who you gotta call, Jules. Who you gotta call? Gotta hit Alex Guerrero. There you go. Get Mr. Miyagi in that hammy, dog. I'm telling you. There you go. You'll never have a hammy problem again.

He tore his labrum in his hip, right? That's what it was. I just hope it doesn't linger. Like Rob said, you gotta keep that thing down. I also feel bad for Diggs, because that battle brings Diggs up to strength coming back from his ACL. You know what I mean?

Some of the best battles, the most growth I had is when we had Revis, you know, you had a good corner to go against or a keep to leave. You know, when you got to go against those guys every day, you know, it made you a better player because they were going to eat you, eat your lunch. If you gave him some sloppy shit. Um, but that sucks. We got to get him back. Well, let's talk about the guys that are looking good

and Patriots training camp right now. We got Drake May. He's saying all the right things. Everyone was saying is that he's taking a big leap from year one. And Coach Belichick always said that as well. He always said the biggest improvement that he sees within his players is from year one to year two. And Drake may has been doing that as Peter Schrager reported a good old friend, Peter

Schrager shout out to the Shrek stir baby. Stefan digs full go. No limitations. That's huge for the Patriots offense. Pop Doug. Crazy. That's crazy. No doubt about that.

Pop Doug looks great too. He looks great too. He looks phenomenal. Looks like he hasn't missed a step since he's torn his ACL. And then you got Pop Douglas, a consistent playmaker. He's making some impressive catches, which Drake May is going to need. And then Trevion Henderson, he's looking explosive. And if you're explosive as a running back, that's huge because boom, you can explode and being in the NFL. Explosiveness is actually probably better than, you know, being fast at some points. I would say explosiveness is more used than just being a fast player. So that's crucial to have a guy out of the backfield with that, you know, with that quality.

I think pop Douglas can have a big year. I can see him have 80 an 80 catch season Hendrickson out of the backfield if he's as smart as everyone says that we've heard all Draft report scouting report every analyst they say this guy is like knows the protections That's like a great Fit for a josh mcdaniel's offense. I mean we've had running back sh Vareen have 13 catches in the Super Bowl. James White had 15 catches in the Super Bowl. They both came from Kevin Falk who always had a massive amount of production. Like if you got that guy, that's a huge help for Drake May.

Because those matchups that you can get running backs on when you get them on the linebackers, those little sprawl routes that we used to run all the time or the option routes out of the backfield. That's easy throw and easy reading for the quarterback. So that's huge. Stefan Diggs being full speed, five months out of the ACL, that's insane. And he looks full speed, he looks great.

And I'm excited to see Drake May. I'm excited to see Drake May with Josh McDaniels and the protection scheme. I'm excited to see Drake May. I'm excited to see Drake May with Josh McDaniels and the protection scheme. I'm excited to see how much he can digest of Josh's offense. Cause you'll be able to see on how they call the game on how much the quarterback is able to digest and how much they're all playing cohesive. Everything I've heard, he looks good

and he's he digest offense and he can retain stuff. That's all you want to hear from your quarterback. This is all the time where we're going to start to see where our team gets built. So I'm excited for this year. We didn't even get into the defense, offensive line. That's still in the limbo jewels. If the offensive line as a whole cannot protect Drake May

like how they need to, then everything can crumble. So the offensive line needs to stay intact. Big dog Campbell needs to come through. Yeah, they the Garret bent with Bradbury. Mm hmm. It's up in the air right now to big Mike from what I'm hearing my training camp. It's up in the air.

They need to come through strange. They're saying Cole Strange looks pretty good. I mean, they got guys. Morgan Moses. I mean, he's he's a vet. They got guys. Will Campbell. Also, you know, you got Robinson, the fourth round pick.

Last year, Doug Marrone, he's probably dialing up past protections with a baloney sandwich in his hand right now. Big baloney guy. I remember from what listening on part of my take once they had him like eating baloney sandwich in his hand right now. Big baloney guy. I remember from what listening on part of my take once they had them like eating baloney or something, but I'm excited to see what these guys do, man. I got a question for you, Jules. I mean, all these training camp clips that are all over X when you sign onto your account all over Instagram. Are they overrated?

Do you get excited by these clips? What do you think of them? Well, I can always tell what like period or where the, if the quarter, like some of these clips where people get all excited when the quarterback scrambles in a seven on seven and rolls to his right and probably would have been sacked or through the ball away and throws a bomb to a guy running a second route.

Like I don't ever get excited for those. You could kind of always see I get excited for when like it's 11 on 11 and you see the quarterback, you can see him click through his progression and makes a nice throw. Like that's when I get excited. You can kind of see in the drill they're doing or where what kind of practice they're practicing for my excitement levels to get excited. Does that make any sense? That made a little sense. All right, let's get into the chillest dude of the week brought to you by our favorite beer Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit CoorsLight.com slash dudes and remember to celebrate responsibly. Hold on. My beers are up in my fridge right now.

I got Ralphie running up the stairs to grab you a nice 12 pack. Now, I can't leave you alone. I got a crack in nice course like cold as the Rockies with you up. Oh, thank you, Ralphie. You're such a good boy. Such a good boy. Oh, I love you so much. Here we go Jules Cheers Cheers, bubs And this week it's a

2025 Hall of Fame NFL football Class so we got to talk about these legends getting inducted into the hall this week. Jules, who do we got to start it off? Eric Allen, cornerback from 1988 to 2001, played with the Philadelphia Eagles, the New Orleans Saints and the Raiders. Two times second team all pro six time pro bowler, 54 career interceptions, nine defensive touchdowns, 19th year of eligibility.

I remember him as a Raider. I mean, I think he retired the year they lost the Superbowl or yeah, the, no, the year they lost the snowball. He was in that game, I think. And then, I mean, he was always just a playmaker. It was a little early in my my watching football days, though. But watching in the, you know, the highlights over the years. I mean, he's he's a he's a Hall of Famer. I got a question for you, Jules.

A lot of guys get into the Hall of Fame, first ballot Hall of Famers make it their second year or within the first five years they get in. This guy's been eligible, Eric Allen has been eligible for 19 years now. Do you think it would be cool, like cooler to be into the Hall of Fame within the first five years?

Or like Eric Allen, about 20 years later, you get a call and you're inducted to the Hall of Fame. Like your kids might have not even known that you played the game of football. And then you're telling them that you went into the Hall of Fame. You're going into the Hall of Fame, the NFL Hall of Fame. And they're like, Daddy, you play football? Like, like, what would that be like? I think you're just excited. Regardless, Jules, what I'm trying to say, I'm just trying, I'm just going to sum it up real quick is that if you go into the Hall of Fame, 1015 20 years later, you get a retrospective of your whole entire career once again, you get to relive it once again. That's kind of legendary to me.

Like if you go in right when you're done playing, it's like it was just yesterday. And you don't get to relive all those exciting moments again, 20 years down the road. You get to enjoy that whole entire process again, is what I'm trying to say I get you It's kind of like it's kind of like when you have your birthday Right next to Hanukkah or Christmas like you rather have that thing spaced out So you could have some gifts coming to you in May or June? So then you have a little extra time to then have perspective. Oh, it's time for a couple more

Presence so that's all I'm just trying to say is going into a hall of fame 20 years later, you get to relive your whole entire career and it feels special once again to you. Unless you're like a Randy guy that or T.O. that should have been first ballot and I don't think they went first ballot like that. Those kind of guys can get mad. But I don't know. I think I think Eric and I think Eric Allen is probably happy. Definitely happy.

Excited. Oh, definitely excited. No doubt. Who else is going in? All right. We got Jared Allen defense event from 2004 to 2015 Kansas city, Minnesota, Chicago, Carolina, two times sack leader in 2007 and 2011, four times for his team, all pro five time pro bowler.

I mean, he's in the Vikings ring of honor, um, record of most career safeties as well, which is a unique, unique record. He has four of those, uh, which is really, really cool. I have one career safety in my career and that was in high school. Um, and I thought it was really cool. I'll one career safety in my career and that was in high school. I thought it was really cool. I'll remember it for the rest of my life. And he had one of the coolest sack celebrations

of all time, or is it the coolest sack celebration of all time, Jules? Was it the rabbit out of the hat, he'd pull it out? And he has the greatest number of all times as well. I thought he was the coolest dude when I got into the NFL in 2010 as a rookie. And I'm like, I get the face off for, Jared Allen, and I'm putting my hand down and he's number 69 right in front of me.

I just thought it was super cool. If he came out in like social media time, he'd be like a different, like he was so funny. He's a like a hilarious dude. And like when you listen to his interviews, his antics in the locker room, he was just always a fun dude that you know you wanted to his interviews, his antics in the locker room, he was just always a fun dude that you know you wanted to have beers with. Like he's the perfect guy to have Coors Light with, or multiple Coors Lights with,

on like a big plot of land with a bunch of toys. Like he's got like Matt Light vibes. Or he's, you know what I mean? They're just witty, funny ass dudes that are like smart as fuck, but like also like just insane football players and I could be completely wrong I don't I don't really know Jared Allen, but that's my vibe Also, Jared Allen seems like the guy that whatever he's doing It just seems like it's gonna be fun and cool if you're doing it with Jared Allen, for example

He almost made the Olympics team on the USA the Olympics Olympics, USA, curling team he he almost made. I mean, how cool is that? Like like curling isn't that cool, but Jared Allen curling on the Olympics team is cool. But that's him. That's like him. Making fun of the world. I bet like, look at his number is 69. He's like, this is an Olympic sport.

I'm going to train to do this. And like, that was him, like, probably throwing shade to someone. Like, one of his boys got hammered and said, I bet you can't be an Olympian. He's like, fuck you. I'll be an Olympian. They're both shit face, probably hammered. They made a bet. And he's like, had to go try to become an Olympian because of it.

I bet you that's how, that're both shit face probably hammered. They made a bet and he's like had to go try to become an Olympian because of it. I bet you that's how something along that line is how he became an Olympian. Him, one of his boys, him and some friend probably had like some kind of bet, won or lost and joined an Olympic team. That's how cool he is. He's a Hall of Fame. Next guy. Oh, Tony. Oh, let me present Antonio Gates, one of my favorite title. No, let me Ken State. All right. Fine. Jules, I understand.

No, you're tied in. I'm a title. You went to school. He went. All right. You go ahead. You didn't play football. You get it. You didn't play football. You get all right. All right. That's good. That's fair. Then that's fair. We got one of my favorite tight ends of all time one of the most

Smoothest route runners to ever play the game one of the slipper is route runners to play as well Antonio Gates tight end of the San Diego Chargers from 2003 to 2018. Undrafted was a basketball player in college. Came from Kent State, obviously, where Julian Edelman played. He was a three time first team all pro, eight time pro bowler, over 11000 receiving yards.

He holds the record for most touchdowns by a tight end score with 116 touchdowns. And was really special is he got LT inducting him into the hall of fame. And Antonio Gates was an inspiration to myself. He was an inspiration to many of the tight ends out there. I was proud to see Antonio Gates get inducted to the Hall of Fame because it doesn't doesn't just represent Antonio Gates. It represents Titans as a whole. So it gives that recognition to our position of how special

being a Titan is and just watching his game. He was a solid blocker in the run game. He was a team player. He came through crucial moments for the charges whenever they need a big play from him. And I just loved watching how good of a route runner he was. And he elevated the tight end position to a whole nother level and put it on the map.

Where does he rank amongst the greatest tight ends of all? I always put Antonio Gates in the top five. Uh, no doubt about that. He he has the most touched on receptions of all time as a tight end to in the top five tight ends, it's kind of hard to like pinpoint where the top five belong, because if you really look at it in the top five, every tight in the top five has their own special trait in their own category of what they did in the past game.

You know, I'm talking about taking away all the blocking that involves, you know, that involves what a tight end does. But if we're just looking at the receptions and what they did in the past game, the top five tight ends are hard to kind of place, you know, and it all depends on how you're looking at it and viewing it as well. But he's definitely top five and just one of the one of the best of all time. He is, man. It was so fun to get to watch him. Oh, Tony Gonzalez did with the whole running basketball routes in football. but like he really was playing basketball on the football field. Like if you watch him run routes, like how he'd shake fools up at the top of the route, or he just body you up, or he would just beat you with quickness.

Like he was the ultimate matchup nightmare. Couldn't put anyone on him. They did the whole, remember when they viced you? Mm-hmm, yes. They viced him. They did that to him too. Like, he went to my college, got to spend some time with, he's a fucking awesome dude, and he is a Hall of Famer. Lastly, Sterling Sharp receiver, 1988 to 1994 for the Packers.

Three time first team all pro, five time pro bowler, three time reception leader 89, 92, 93, receiving yard leader in 92. Career cut short due to a neck injury. His brothers, you know, another great, Shannon Sharp Hall of Famer. They will become the first brothers inducted together. Shannon will be introducing the 26th year eligibility of his brother who's

finally getting into the hall. Now. I've never, I don't remember. I, I don't really remember watching Sterling as a kid. Cause it was right before I started watching, when he was dicing up the NFL. But from what I hear from anyone that I respect talk about the game, they said he was just the man.

And even when you listen to Shannon Sharp talk about his older brother, I mean, he gives so many so many roses and flowers and praise to his brother. And Shannon is like one of the he's probably up there and the greatest of at his position to like it's just it's it's crazy that his career had to get shortened due to a neck injury. But from what I heard, if he kept on playing, they say this guy was like insane, insane. Shannon always said to I've heard him say a plenty of times is that his older brother was always the better football player than he was. Yeah, I've heard it too. Yeah. But shout out to Sterling. You know, finally getting, you know, making it to the Hall of Fame.

It's unfortunate that he had that neck injury. I mean, he had to stop playing after six years, but it just shows what type of player that he was, that he just made it into the NFL Hall of Fame. And he only played six years in the league. So he was an absolute beast out there. Three time leader as I think three time reception leader in the NFL when he was playing just an absolute absolute beast out

there and probably just as Jacked as Shannon as well. I mean that family they're sharp. Their bodies are sharp. I can tell you that they are sharp. Now the Jared story, the Jared Allen story story trying to make it to Olympics I guess his pursuit had started as a wager with a friend about qualifying for a PGA Tour event however after seeing the story of Eddie the eagle an unlikely Olympic sky ski jumper from England Allen set his sights on qualifying For an even bigger stage. Alan first looked at giving badminton a shot, but after doing some research, 41 year old

realized way too much moving at that age. Badminton is hard, very hard. I tried to beat my coach once who was a badminton coach. He beat my ass for like three straight hours and he had no athleticism and Juco. Alan said, I read the rules of curling. It was like the winners have to buy the losers beer. Most people start in their forties. I was like right up my alley.

So I, I, I don't know if I heard that story or if I'd literally just manifested that in my head. Jules, you're a psychic. I'm a psych. You were spot on. just manifested that in my head. Jules, you're a psychic. I'm a psychic. You're a spot on.

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