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Episode Date: December 6, 2025

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Big V. Oh, my God. I wonder why it was something. Thanksgiving is his favorite holiday, I bet. Start the clock what's a year I got to say. Vince Well Fork standing at six foot two and weighing around 325 pounds played as a dominant nose tackle in the NFL. 25? Primarily, I think he was like

350 at one point, 360. Primarily played for the New England Patriots and later for the Houston Texans. Growing up in Boitown Beach, Florida. I think so, Boiton. Boiton Beach, Florida. Well Fork was a track and field standout before switching to football

at the University of Miami. Selected 21st overall in the 2004 draft. He was known for his strength, size, and ability to stuff the run. Often drawing double teams and anchoring defenses with his power and skill. Over his career,

Wolf Fork recorded 560 tackles, 16 sacks, and three interceptions, earning two Super Bowl championships, five Pro Bowl selections and a reputation as one of the best defensive tackles of his era. Known for his charisma and a love for a barbecue, he has remained a beloved figure

off the field where his big personality and big hits made him a fan favorite. That's a lot by AI. The long synopsis, that's the longest one we had so far, but Vince deserves it. Heck yeah. 100% deserved it. serves it. He's the biggest guy so far we've been talking about. He's about 365 pounds. I think

they got it got it wrong there. This guy can eat you up, man. He's lost a lot of weight now. He sure has. He looks really good, man. He does. Really good. It looks good on him. It's just sad that you know he's not coming back, though. I know. Because every good player, you always have that imagination that they're going to come back. He never, he always thought V could. I think V can still play. You just have that thought about him. What's the first thing that comes to your mind when you think about Big V. The barbecues, you know. He came out with his own barbecue sauce. I'm pretty sure Mr. Kraft used to have that team get together, team bonding at his house in the Cape after you made the team. It was right at the end of August. What holiday's at right at the end of August?

Labor Day. Yeah, Labor Day. Yep. And it was Labor Day week and we all go up there and there'd be ribs or be, you know, steaks. And then here comes Big V coming through and he bring his own barbecue sauce every single year. And I wouldn't eat those ribs or the sornloin or, you know, the burger meat until that barbecue sauce got there. And once Big V showed up, hey, Big V passed that sauce over, buddy. He loved it too, man. He loved being known about that sauce.

And he just loved just the atmosphere around a cookout. I was fortunate enough to get invited to one of his cookouts. He smoked some ribs. He was in some big ass overalls with no shirt, smoking. ribs. He just looks at home when he's on a barbecue. He looks like that's, he's at home. The first, I remember when I was a rookie, he's comfortable. That's just comfort zone for him. It is. I remember my rookie year. My welcome to the NFL moment was like, I was rolling in like my Toyota rental and I park it in the way back of the players lot. And all of a sudden there's

this fucking huge semi. A fucking semi truck rolls in and parks up right in the front and takes like two damn spots, backs in. Beep, beep, beep. Backs in. This big-ass orange semi-truck. It's fucking Vince's daily driver. Vince had like a huge semi-truck daily driver. He gets out of the thing, and it looked just like him in front of the barbecue.

Just a comfort zone for him. Just a big-ass dude getting out of a big-ass truck. Big V was just fucking so cool. That was like my first welcome to NFL. I was like, holy shit. I didn't even know you can buy semi-trucks. Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me my welcome to the NFL dosage of a hit.

When training camp rookie year, you know the WAM block. What's the WAM block? Explain it. Where they let go, the guard let go, let's the, just defense to tackle free. So then he thinks he's going to go get a sack. And then the wham block is when I come across the line of scrimmage at the tight end position when I'm off the ball. And I'm the one that goes and I wham the defense of tackle and try to block them.

It's like a trap for the tight end. There you go. Exactly. And we're trapping the. defense to tackle. So he knows it's coming. I mean, this is a specialty play that the New England Patriots been running. Nine on seven. They know the fucking script. Well, well before me. Yeah, it is. It was, it was a nine on seven. So yeah, the defense does know the script so they can look really good in the run game throughout that whole period. And I think they also told them this play was coming,

uh, being specifically knowing I'm on a black vans and they wanted to see my toughness as a rookie. So the play is called. I'm in full paths. You know, I'm like a Wham Black. I got to show my toughness. I got to show my keeps. I got to get the respect of my fellow teammates, especially the veterans. Wait, wait, whoa, let me pay the picture also. Rob's a rookie here.

V was like the big dog on campus. In practice, no one really gets close to him because you don't want to piss him off when you're new. You know, it's like, holy shit, is that a, that is a large human being. He's like so big. I think there's like something that orbits him, like on how round he is. Like, that's, you didn't want to get in his way. He didn't want to piss him off because he was very intimidated.

Get back to your story. So the play, you know, gets on its way. I do my little two, you know, two sidesteps, you know, on the motion. I'm running full speed right at Vince Welfort. This guy peeks over to his left. He sees me coming. He has this grin on his face knowing I was coming. He put his shoulder down.

I'm going full speed at him. And he gets that leverage and just tease off on me. I went flying backwards five to six yards. I didn't even land on my back. He sent me flying in the air where I landed on my feet still. Oh, my God. Yeah, and that hit hurt like a mother effort. But what's cool is I gained the respect to my teammates.

And my coach at that time, tight end coach in that meeting that day when we went and reviewed the play. Brian Farrants. Brian Farrants. He's now at Iowa with his dad doing, you know, doing his thing, doing a good job. He goes, yo, what were you thinking trying to block Vince Wolfwork? He goes, you're never going to do that again. I go, thank you. Thank you.

I go, I'll never do it again. And ever since that day, you know, we had about five more of those calls. And I just go up to him, I hug him. I didn't need to try to block him. It was just only going to get me hurt from there on out. Yeah, I just give him a hug like Vince, no, no, it's the way I'm black man. I know you're going to beat me. Like, there's no reason to go through this motion of me getting thrown backwards again.

Oh, my God. I'm going to break a rib. He's so strong. And I know you love your ribs and you're going to, you know. He'll probably eat them. Yeah. Enjoy them after with your barbecue sauce, buddy. Oh, my.

That had to be so terrifying. It was. Well, at that time, it wasn't. Because he's an intimidating guy when you joined the team too. It was terrifying after that because I was trying to, you know, gainer my keeps, man. Like, I was trying to prove myself. So I didn't care who was in my way. And then I learned I do care who's in my way.

Yeah. When it comes down to the NFL, you got to. that's when you learned on when to, you know, take your shots at someone and one not to, when to block someone hard, one to kind of like just brother-in-law box someone out as well instead of trying to hit him full speed. If you hit them full speed, heads up, they, you know, they're way bigger than you. This is when you start learning the ins and outs. And that's one ins and out I learned big time.

Freaking V. And he was so quick, too. Like, that's what people don't realize. Like they just think. Surprisingly quick because of how big he was. Yeah. And his feet, he had fast feet, man. And he was kind of like a running back, that pitter patter.

He's like, boom, whoa, whoa. Whoa, big burp right there, Jules. Wow. This is the barbecue I ate from five years ago with Big Vince. It's still coming out. We ate that much. I tasted that barbecue sauce right there. That was good.

But his feet were surprisingly click. He was like a bum, boom, boom. He was a rabbit out there. I remember always going in the weight room and you go over by like the kettlebells and like the arm bars and stuff. And there'd always be a shock put there. Remember him? Do you ever see him shock put?

I never have. Oh, my God. He could fucking shock. He was a fucking track star. I think he had like the state record. He had insane strength too. I remember like he wouldn't go in the weight room to just like warm up, you know, do 315, like five.

He would just go in the weight room just to, you know, maintain his strength. And he would just walk in. And I remember him just throwing up like 425 pounds in the bench and just tossing it up, then racking it and be like, I'm done for today. Yeah. Like he didn't even need a work on his strength that much because he was just that strong naturally. and, like, it was to a whole other level. Yeah, I remember seeing him in the weight room, too.

He, the, like Marcus Cannon, when he would work out, the weights would bend. He was just so strong, and he had always great movement. Like, he was very, he was very skillful, like, fluid. Fluid. Like, when you watch Big V throw football, he looks like, like, he spins a ball really well. You see him hit a golf ball. He fucking has an unbelievable golf swing. I mean, the guy is so athletic.

He used to return punts in high school. Like, I remember, you know, Bill always every training camp when it's getting to like day nine, ten, guys who are worn down, beat up, mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted. He always have a big lineman come in and try to catch a pun. And if you caught punch, you'd have the night off. He threw V up there and it looked too fucking easy. I think he won and snag that thing. He was, he was so athletic. He could have played fullback.

I swear he could play Ryan back and get gained some yards before going down. tight end he could definitely play I heard him talking about this too as well he could play defensive end obviously anywhere on the defensive line any like you said quarterback as well he had an arm he loved being you know before practice was going on you know before we

really got into it he'd be chucking the ball you know to to his fellow defensive players just having a good old time he was just so disruptive as well and he was kind of like the two gap god when he was you know on that defensive line and that be able to take two gaps.

You know how much to freeze that linebacker? That's a linebacker's best friend right there, Vince Wolford. 100%. I mean,

Gerard Mayo, Dante Hightower, Jamie Kahn, they all love them. They all do. Guys like, they love guys that take double teams

that lets you get to that fucking boom. Kind of. Big V just said, Big V has so many stats. He had so much production for the amount of stats he had

because he had such hidden things that made plays go. It was unblockable. And you take two double teams They can never get the guy to the second level Like he just was fucking a monster And we wanted to talk about him on this show

Specifically because Because what is he known for on Thanksgiving Jules He's the one that created the butt fumble The freaking The but the forceer The generator of the butt fumble versus the New York Jets Mark Sanchez

Oh, my God. And he did that before. Like, it's where he gets so much penetration. He drives his guy back so far that it hit the quarterback with the guy that he was driving backs, but that made him fumble the football and Steve Gregory scoop score in his home area of New Jersey, which was just a fucking crazy game. That comes to my mind when I think of Vince of some of his crazy story. But also, remember when we were in Buffalo and he read out the receiver screen?

What was he rewarded with, though, after the Buffalo? Well, he had the turkey. On the post game. He had the turkey leg. He had the turkey leg. He was rewarded with a turkey leg during the post game for his contribution to the butt fumble. And he ate that thing. He ate it all.

Not surprised. So what was it that you were talking about in Buffalo? Remember in Buffalo where they had that receiver screen and V read it? And he was full speed. And a receiver was full speed, not seeing him. And it looked like, it looked like if a semi hit like one of those little smart cars. Oh my gosh. This, this is the receiver.

Like he was up. He was up. And then, like your finger just got bent backwards in a matter of a split second. Boom. That looked like the receiver right there. Boop. It's not even that. It's not even the mass.

Imagine if he, like, fell on you going that fast. Well, he squished you like a bug. Like a fucking bug. I bet you got his way out of the air and it just explodes everywhere. that's kind of what happened to the bill's wide receiver and you always they flattened them no it was it was that that's a terrifying hit like that's like that was a terrifying hit there's a lot of big hits that you see you're like all right you can you can withstand that but when it's it's straight physics when you got mass times velocity you get force you get fucking force and that's what big v was i don't know if

that's right for you physics people get us in there but then also what what about what about his his interceptions. We're talking big plays here. I mean, he had that pick versus Philip Rivers at home in Gillette Stadium when he was, was that another screen or he was just I think he was a, no, it got

tipped or something to him. Did he tip it? Did he tip it? Yeah, he tipped it to himself. He showed great ball skills right there. And then you saw your fast feet. Yes. And then he started just, you know,

trucking down the field like a rabbit with his fast feet. He looked nimble and he looked agile and just rumbling down the field. I don't think anyone in the world that watched that play, anyone in the world didn't want that big man to score. When a big man has that look, because the ball looked like a fucking like a paper towel in his armpit. A loaf of breath.

A loaf of breath. I mean, it looks. Pumpernickel. Pumper nickel. It looks so small and he's like running it. And like everyone is just sitting there like, look at the big, big. Reminds you remember Comley also did that

on the kickoff return Oh yeah against Packers That was cool too I love when big men Get to run the ball Or score a touch zone Or tugged in the red zone

Oh eight soldier Everyone loves it man Yeah The soldier had that one The Ten The Lions are doing it a lot This year We're doing it

And we're speaking of Thanksgiving You know teams Lions in there You know don't Don't not expect A trick play To align in this Thanksgiving From the Detroit Lions

Oh I mean Or a fake punt you're going to you're going there's going to be something like that we talked about on this show a few weeks back tight end university day or happy tight end day what it's called national tight end day national tight end day there's got to be a national big guy touchdown day or a big guy catch day it just needs to be national big and like it's a rule in the NFL book that you have to at least run one tackled eligible play one tackle eligible the guy has to be over 260 75 pounds, 285 pounds has to touch a football on one specific day,

national big fat guy day. I like that. That's what I think we... I like that. Who's going to start it? I think we need Big V. Yeah, Big V, come on, let's go. You remember in the butt fumble game?

I remember watching it the next day in meetings. Bill rewinded it like four or five times, barely said anything. And then, like, got up and talked, and he said, the Jets got exactly what they deserve. like did something like one of those you know what I mean do you remember that I actually was hurt that year at jules so I was at home just watching it from my couch just enjoying my thanksgiving and I just remember that play happening I was shocked right because we were already dominating them dominating them it wasn't even a close game at all and just when that happened I was giggling to myself like what a play I never seen anything like that and I was screaming too

because Gregory just scooped it. Like it just didn't happen, a butt fumble. And directly into his hands. No, directly on the ground and directly in the Gregory's hand. But it went to the end zone of the Patriots as well. We got six points out of it. It's like, that doesn't happen usually. Usually like a play like that, you know, usually someone just gets on it.

And it's a fumble recovery. It went to the house. We scored on it. How do you think Sanchez or San Chito feels about that? I mean, Sanchez is a good dude. He's a goofy dude. He's goofy. So I think he kind of like.

I think he does like it. I think he owns it. Yeah. He does own it for sure. I heard him referencing it. He'll giggle about it for sure. It's kind of like the Miami Miracle. I own that play.

Yeah. It's kind of like the butt fumble with Sanchez. I mean, it's okay. I mean, it happens. It's kind of like the 2004 or 2002, uh, Frassoff championship between the Bay Division, Ocean Division. You know, I gave this interception away and they won it on it. It's kind of like, you own it now.

Fucking M.A. I'll never own it. it is bullshit it's okay jules one day you'll own it you'll get over it it's okay man we're here for it just be thankful for other things and then you'll get over that you know what i'm also thankful for what are you thankful for that we were a part of probably two of the craziest play calls in the history of football one the butt fumble yes what's more embarrassing the butt fumble or do you remember when the colts had that stupid punt formation that they tried on sad what was what was the What was it, fourth and two?

And they were trying to get us on a trick. I think it was like more than four. It was weird formation. They had like everyone spread out wide and then the center. What's the down in distance? And then there was a running back behind the center or something. And then they hiked it. And everyone was in like in shock.

Like what the heck is possibly going on? And that's the only reason I bring this up is because the same shock factor that we had that like did that but just make that fumble? and then we scored a touchdown. That same shock factor is the same shock factor we had when they did this punt formation thing. Did he really hiked the ball? I'm not a math guy, but three on one. I'm looking at the Colts sideline right here

after the play. Are you fucking serious? What is this? Like, this is National Football League. And they're only down by six in the third quarter. I don't know. That's the Colts for you. That was worse so than the buff.

Yeah, because the butt fumble was made through force and in gravity. Exactly. The butt fumble was made by Vince in that fucking 300 in 25 pound frame, 25 pound frame, taking his matchup and driving them into the fucking, I'm flabbergasted. I didn't realize we were going to get into that play. I think they rose the banner that year. That's why I never lost. Was that the banner year or they rose the banner? Don't ever lost to the Colts.

Did we ever lose to the Colts? I did in 2009. That was 2009. In a fourth and two. Yeah. So it doesn't count. How about the big boy on body issues? I mean, he's not like, it looks like muscle.

It is muscle. That's why I love the ESPN, the body issue, because they, they featured everyone. Yeah. And they were just showing how. Are you on it? The statue, yes, how the statue of the body. Oh, yeah. Representing all different types of athletes.

From a guy that played. tackle to a wide receiver to myself right there young grunk you want to know the running joke was about me i'm being on the uh body issue cover what was that the circle was really small that they needed to use what circle to cover me up yeah you know what i didn't they tell you was going to be a small set like there's not going to be a lot of people there there really wasn't there's probably like five five to six how many people were on your stuff i feel like there's 30 in mind really 30 people. They all wanted to see you, Jules. You're a good looking guy. You got a wonderful body. Now, how did the, how did the flipball stay on? It's a good question. I was kind of adjusting in it before every shot. And then I kind of adjusted it. So I kind of found that niche.

Did you have to take a Viagra to keep that thing staked up so you could just post it on there? No, no. It was actually one of the worst performance looking days of my life. It was kind of chilly in there. I felt like, I felt like, I felt like, of, frozen raisin. Yeah. And I was just giggling at myself every time I look back at the pictures. I know because it was bad. Yeah, it was bad.

It was bad. It was bad. You would see like a picture after, you know, you'd go at the photographer and your wiener would be out and you'd see the picture and then all of a sudden they'd be like, oh, don't worry. We could just cut that thing. But you're sitting there worrying because you're like, you're going to go tell everyone you know.

And then that person that's reviewing the photo too is going to tell I know too in the shoot set. It was 60. 10 minutes. What kind of dude is Vince Will Fork? Stud, a freak, a dog, a dude, or a whiz. I mean, he's a wist. He has a lot of intellectual and knowledge of the game of football.

I mean, he was a smart player. That's why he knew that big. play that he made when we were talking about it versus the Buffalo Bills and he absolutely dominated the receiver on that screen across the middle because he saw that play coming he sniffed it out like he was a wizard out there that's how he made majority of his play same with his interceptions he knew the screen was coming he backed off he knew that when he got dropped he wasn't gonna just go to the quarterback and get a free sack he knew there must be a different type of play coming oh it's going to be a screen or it's a gimmick or something I mean he was smart bro

he was very smart on that football field I'm telling you I mean yeah he was a freak for his I mean, 360, just the way that he could move is athletic ability. Kind of a dude's dude as well with his barbecues, man. Inviting the guys over and having that barbecue sauce for everyone. He was also a fucking dog. Yeah, he was a dog. He was grimy in there. Oh, yeah.

When you're the guy taking the double team the whole time and you know you have to go against 600 pounds every fucking play. Because he's taking double teams every play, 600 pounds. And he would take those double teams and kind of just eat those double teams. up. He really would and just let that linebacker just free to go in and make the place. And he's a fucking stud. Is athleticism? He is, man.

I mean, he could shoot a basketball. I mean, he's an insane thrower of the football. You watch his golf swing. You're like, holy fuck. I think he's scratch golf. This is a true tough one, man. This is really tough to really categorize and pinpoint Vince Wolfork to just one category. It's going to be

tough. On three, what do you expect one? Oh, man. Hold on. Let me keep thinking about this, man. Oh. All right, all right. One, two, three, freak. Oh, man. Oh, man. I know, man.

He is a freak, though. But he's so smart, man. I'm telling you, he's a smart football player. Yeah, but that goes into his freakiness where you think a guy that looks like him isn't that smart. He's a freak. He's great in commercials too. Like you see him in that stove commercials now, like grilling and all that. He's on TV.

But you also, you're sitting there like, look at this large guy. Got to be smart. smart. Look at this large guy. You're right. Like we said, we're categorizing freaks as you're just looking at someone. You're like, how can they possibly do that being that size? Also, also like feet. Can we say he yeah, he's he's a wizard though? Can you agree with that? I'm 100%. I mean, I always remember Bill talking about how smarty is a football player instinctive. So I do agree he is a freak of nature. I mean, obviously to be that size to move, you know, to move that well on the football field take on double teams and just squash them just the way he tackled guys too they would go

right down there was no mistackles by vince wilfork when he got your hands on you no so he drape you down and he swallow you all right we'll try again let's do it again one two three freak stamp it if a lenovo gaming computer is on your holiday list don't shop around just go directly to the source lenovo dot com it's your last chance to score exclusive deals on the gaming PCs you want, like the Lenovo Legion Tower 5 Gen 10 gaming desktop and Lenovo lock gaming laptop. So avoid all that shopping chaos and price comparing and just go directly to the source, Lenovo.com, where PCs are up to 35% off. That's Lenovo.com. Lenovo, Lenovo. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him.

Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Game Must Untangle the Dangerous Past, one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? Who catfish is a city? Is it even safe to snort human rights? remains? Is that the plot of Footloose? I'm comedian Rory Scoville, and I'm here to tell you, Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. It's called Crimeless, a true crime comedy podcast. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA, and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mail Room. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like most guys, I haven't been to the doctor in way too long. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Every week, we're breaking down the world of men's health from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility. We'll talk science without the jargon and get your real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. So check out the mailroom on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment.

where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who have had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show.

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