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Episode Date: October 9, 2025Rob & Jules are in studio talking all things Week 5 and current NFL! We're also answering your calls about the latest from around the league. We're talking about everything from what the Patriots ...need to keep the momentum rolling, Super Bowl Hail Mary's, and we even answer a DM from one notable rookie. We finish up with The Chillest Caller of the Week in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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it's the rabel may connection you can see rabel challenges him when he talks to the media
which you need to have that you can't just give something to someone it's a little like the bellow
check brady situation then but it's a different style of it because bill kind of kept you know
not just timing checked a little bit in the media which he did he really did so because rabble was
around it he was around it he was around that development so he probably took what you know what he
saw that worked and using it with may um and he's doing a great job let's see if he can continue it
next week. This will be an awesome test.
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can you believe we're already through five weeks of the NFL season i really can't
it just flies by everyone loves football and when you love something they say it flies by
in time and that's why we're already through five weeks in the blink of an eye blink of an
football is just great there's been so many games sunday night football games from week one
all the way through week five have been just phenomenal there's been upsets but there's been
comebacks. There's been terrible teams. There's been some great teams that have been coming out of
nowhere. Just overall, the NFL is back. It's exciting. You just never know what's going to happen.
And this whole season's going to fly by. It's already week five. But trust me, you're going to say it's
playoffs. Oh, it's the NFC championship game. It's the ASC championship. Oh, we're at the Super Bowl already.
We just love football. Time flies when you're having fun. A lot of key plays being made on special
teams through the first five weeks, field goals that are like 90 yards, block kicks left and
right. New kickoff rule is freaking awesome. It's been a lot of fun stuff and this is the time of
year when you go into this next quarter of the season where it starts to shape off. It starts to
shape up. We start to see what teams' identities are. There's a lot of film now that can be
studied on these teams and the good teams start to, it's not like, you know, it ain't cream season.
it ain't even pasteurization period, but the stuff is, what is it? Coddling, or curdling.
This is curdling season.
This is curdling season.
Curdling season.
Wow.
Yeah, it's when you get little chunks of goodness that are starting to start to go and sift through the milkation process.
Should we get into some voicemails?
Yeah, let's get into some voicemails.
Yeah, my name's Michael from Indianapolis, Indiana.
I love the podcast.
My take is that Daniel Jones will finish top five in the MVP voting,
and the Colts will not only make the playoffs,
but win, at least the game and be a difficult out for whoever they end up losing to.
Thanks, guys.
I love the podcast.
Hey, Michael, we appreciate it from Indianapolis.
You got a lot of takes right there.
I'm going to agree that Daniel Jones will probably finish top five.
in the MVP. I mean, he's playing lights out right now. It's sweet and it's great for all football
fans, especially you Colts fan, to see his career get re-resorrected. Yeah. I mean, you got to appreciate
that when someone gets a second chance and they take full advantage of the second chance. And in the
NFL, that happens a lot. But you never know who's going to surprise you and takes advantage of it
and goes, you know, and takes off to the moon with the opportunity that they're given. That's what
Daniel Jones is doing here. And will they make the playoffs? Yes, they will make the playoffs? Yes, they will
make the playoffs. They're in a weak division. The Houston Texans aren't playing so great
right now as well. Big win last week though. They got a big win last week. What? They've only
lost one game so far. Who? Colts. They've only lost one game. So they're in the driver
seat right now in the position to, you know, win their division and make the playoffs. And I got
agree with him again. This guy knows his football game. He says they're going to win one game in
the playoffs and then they're going to get booted the next week. I kind of agree with that. I mean,
with what you see with how far we're into the season you know this guy watches football he knows
his football and i kind of see that happening with the colts as well yeah it's a little early for me
look they they've started off i mean just a projectory of where we're at right now it is mad
early and a lot of things and change a lot of things can happen how you're reading it right now i mean
i think he's kind of spot on i definitely think that they're a very competitive team and they're
looking really good and you got to tip your cap to Shane Steichen.
But, you know, we've never seen Daniel Jones go out and do this for a consistent period
time. And just because we've seen guys like Sam Darnold, who went out and won 13 games
last year with, you know, the Vikings and Baker and what he's done with, you know, the Buccaneers,
those guys are, those guys are like a little different. They're resurrecting their career
at a consistent rate.
If he continues this,
yes, he'll be in that category.
But it's just so early.
I mean, they haven't really had any adversity
to overcome yet, you know,
in a short bit of the season.
You know, you look at some of these teams.
You look at the chargers.
Look, they don't, they're on a,
there's a guy that I literally
is off the street that's blocking
for Justin Herbert right now at right tackle.
That's adversity.
that you know they're going through the injury butt like there's look at the niners they're starting
quarterback they just gave $250 million to isn't playing and they're 3 and oh with the backup that
didn't work out in New England that's adversity like they haven't had any adversity so I don't
know how they're going to respond but they are in a great position right now with the
Indianapolis Colts can you guys give us a team that will make a surprising playoff appearance
Patriots that's who I was thinking too
we're on the same page right now
I'm gonna go with the Patriots as well
I like that right now I mean
for everyone that says oh I called it before
all right this is they don't realize
how hard it is when the National Football League
when you have a new coach new system
new everything like what they did
last week has nothing to do with
this but I don't know
I think they'll make the playoffs
yeah it's kind of too soon as well to
really you know way soon
we're week five a surprising
team in the playoffs
I mean, teams are just starting to identify who they really are.
I mean, two years ago, Philadelphia, or when they went to the Super Bowl and then they
ended up not making the playoff, didn't they, like, win like eight games?
They started out eight and no or something, and then they didn't win, like, their back
couple games.
You look at Arizona a few years back with Kyler Murray, they started 7 and O with Cliff
Kingsbury, and then tricked it off in the back end of the, like, the season gets harder.
The season gets harder.
and these teams that have gone out
and won a lot of games early in the season
have put themselves in a great position
but a lot of things can change
and a lot of things can change quick in the National Football League.
I'm still going with the Patriots.
Me too.
Hey, what's up, boys? Big Han.
This question is for Grunk.
As a giant fan, obviously those two Super Bowls
met a lot to me.
But Grunk, I remember you being this close
to catching that Hail Mary.
The tip, you just mishinded
how often do you replay that in your head saying if I was just a foot closer?
Perhaps I could have caught that touchdown in Super Bowl 46.
If he had a straight ankle, he would have been all right.
Or if he had a good ankle, he would have been all right.
Well, no, if I had a good ankle, we would have never been in that situation.
We would have been up by 10 points, and there would have never been a Hail Mary.
Yeah, I went in with the damage ankle.
I only played about like 16 plays.
I had like one or two catches, but then I was in there for the Hail Mary.
And why and how I missed timed it is because I stopped at the goal.
line because I was trying to read the direction where the ball was going. You know, I wanted to be in
that position because as my job, I've got to be facing where the jump ball was going. I got to be
facing, you know, where everyone's jumping so then possibly can come and get tipped to me. So I stopped
real quick. I pitty patterned at the goal line to read it. I read it and then I went over to
where everyone was jumping and then I was literally just a tad like millisecond late and I literally
miss it by a couple three inches. How often does it play in my head?
just whenever someone brings it up.
I don't dream of it.
I don't, I don't, you know, can't get no sleep over it.
I mean, maybe for a week after that game, I was like, man,
I was that close to the Hail Mary.
But like, that's the game of football.
It's the game of inches.
So many different things can change throughout that game,
not just the hell Mary,
but throughout the whole entire game where it can be won or decided or lost as well
by just a few inches.
So that play doesn't, you know,
haunt me at all,
especially being able to win a couple of Super Bowls in my career after that.
A few.
After losing that Super Bowl as well.
That's what really got me to get over that game was just getting back to the Super Bowl
and winning Super Bowl.
So, yeah, that's my honest answer.
It really is.
Yo, Julian, and Grunt, just finished watching the building paths.
Hell yeah, go-path, amazing win, pun intended.
Have a quick question.
Obviously, you guys are watching this as well, right?
I'm more than sure Brady's watching it somewhere out there.
Pauline all the way from Texas.
I'm going to fly out to Boston, November 1st, to watch the game November 2nd for the Falcons.
And I just have a quick question for you, right?
I know that this team has, you know, succeeded from last year and, well, progressed from last year.
I wanted to know what you guys have thought about the Mike Rable and May connection.
Is it closer to Belichick and Brady or is it closer to McMillard and Allen?
Or which other one would you compare it to?
I think it's their own.
See y'all in Foxborough.
I think it's the Rable May connection.
You can see Rable challenges him when he talks.
to the media, which you need to have that.
You can't just give something to someone
or they don't appreciate it anymore.
They don't appreciate it as much.
It's kind of like, you know,
I don't know.
Like, I feel they're not pampering him a lot.
They're giving him a lot.
He's digesting a lot.
And, but I do see,
you hear little snippets from the media with Vrabel,
like him as a leader.
We need, like, he just keeps the,
he keeps the fire up under him.
Keeps him in check.
Keeps him in check a little bit.
Yeah. So if I had to compare it, I mean, I would say it's a little like the Belichick Brady situation then, but it's a different style of it because Bill kind of kept, you know, not just timing checked a little bit in the media, which he did. He really did. So he did it to everyone, though. But I don't want to compare the situation to those two because it's totally different. But he asked the question. So I would say there's a little resemblance in that because Rabel's just, you know, keeping.
Because Vrebel is around it.
Yeah, Vrabel, and he was, and he was around it as well.
He was around that development.
So he probably took what, you know, what he saw that worked.
Worked.
In that, you know, in that relationship and using what worked, you know, and using what he saw worked
and using it with May.
And he's doing a great job.
He really is.
May is looking confident out there.
He's a leader.
Vrable's doing his thing as a coach.
And this team is getting better on a weekly basis.
And Drake May out there is just being able, from his.
his rookie year to his second year, he has progressed and made an unbelievable step as well.
Let's see if he can continue it next week. This will be an awesome test.
Yo, Jules, Grump, with all this AI deep fake stuff that's going on now online,
how long do you think before our team fakes an injury video to mess with the whole league?
like for example a fake clip of a QB limping around in practice just to get the defense
prepping wrong do you think we're close to that or no and also would you consider that cheating
yeah that is cheating yeah I mean that is cheating that's integrity you can't do that
you're breaking the integrity of the game but man if it gets love the question I love your
thinking out of the box here if team like you know I came up with this was probably
because he got burned by an AI video thinking it was real.
Because who hasn't got burned by an AI video online?
It's getting absurd out there.
Like, you just sign on the Instagram or X or something and you watch this video and
you're like, you get confused for a second.
You're like, what just happened?
And it was an AI video.
And I mean, you're not signing on like, okay, I got to decipher between a real video and an
AI video.
But that's going to be the thought eventually once you get tricked by too many AI videos.
Who's going to go that low?
Yeah, who's going to, yeah, you're right.
Who is going to go that low?
I can see that happening at like the high school level, maybe.
Maybe high school.
But you go to the league, people are getting suspended.
People are getting fined.
If this gets caught, I mean.
It ain't happening in the foul.
The integrity of the league is way too important to the game of football,
to fans, to teams, to just everything about it.
Next one.
But that was pretty silly.
Hi, Jules and Rob.
Greetings from Germany from the Patriots International fan of the year.
what do you think the Patriots still need to really fit into the team
we are seeing night things again like drake may
the defense is super strong but something is still missing
what do you think about it greetings from germany
to our i shorn chin jules and grung
the squirrel ein schoen um
Dennis thanks for the call from germany
the dutchland uh they're missing
time. They need time on task. Look, we just saw a great situation that they went through last
night, go on the road, in the division, in front of the whole country, and play a solid football
game. They got to continue this. They just need to do this more often. They need to have these
situations and go through these different types of games to build foundational things that
they can pull from when they have more time on task together.
They're lines doing pretty well this year.
The more time they do together, the more they'll be better.
They just need more time.
Because every situation where they're good or bad is a bit of experience.
And there's one other thing as well.
They got to find ways to improve in the red zone.
I feel like they just need to be able to score more touchdowns in the future.
There's going to be more situations where they're going to have to
put up points where it's going to be crunch time and they're going to be in the red area area
uh you know you saw versus the bills they will beat the bills but they got stopped in the red area
a couple of times yeah someone has to step up in the red area and become a true red zone threat
if that's you know trading for a guy that's a good red zone area threat a j brown possibly that
that could be would you want a j brown on the patriots yes i think him and why why would i say no to
that i don't know just you know would you want the antics
I think he'd be different.
Yeah, I agree. I mean, he'll be getting fed if he was on the Patriots.
But they got to improve the red zone area with however they're going to do it.
That's a good question, Dennis, Dennis.
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Who's this? Tell grunk, it's okay. We know ASU is just a little better.
Oh, who's that coming from? Cam, Scataboobo? Little Scataboo. He's not that little.
He's short, he's short, but he's stocky. He's stocky. Yeah, he's definitely short. He went to his shoe.
Their brains are short.
well short wired that is oh oh sorry oh scat i'm watching so you're talking i'm hyping you up
i'm saying i became a fan of you even though you're on asu i was still cheering for you because i
love the way that you played the game and now you're coming on here DMing us you know and
talking garbage saying ASU is better than ASU but you're also not even coming in strong you're just
saying a little bit better well you will eventually
is a ton times better than ASU buddy all over the board yeah last year you guys had a year you guys
won all those games well you're not there anymore buddy i'm not a fan of ASU anymore the football
problem because you're not there i was a fan of you so just focus on what you got to do with the new york
giants and stop DMing us and talking shit if you DM'd us and was saying nice things this would be
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Good. Cam Scataboo.
Throwing us a D-Ab.
That was great.
Oh, scatty.
He's a great player, though.
I just love the way he played.
He fumbled, though.
Yeah, he's fumbled, but, you know, who doesn't fumble at least once in their career?
Yeah, but you got to learn for me.
You can't do in your second game.
Yeah, but I just love the way.
He's a football player.
I do, too.
Just he's a football player.
We got a, we got to, we got to, football players, got them take care of the football.
They sure do.
That's a good point.
All right.
What's our coaching tip?
You should be on the coaching staff
No shot
Jewel's a coach
Absolutely not
I'd be miserable
Happily miserable
Happily miserable
Let's see what the cellist do the week is
Let's see you
Hey dude
I don't know if you saw that
Come from behind win
In Philly yesterday for the Broncos
But I'm starting to kind of wonder
If the Broncos is legit or not
I don't know
Let me know
All right
The Broncos are kind of like the Philadelphia Eagles
They kind of win games
in very similar ways.
They're not really flashy.
They got a really good defense
so they can hold the other opponents
team to not too many points
where then they can win the game
off of just kicking field goals,
say. And they've done that before, I think,
where they just won games by just kicking field goals
and just throwing for a touchdown or two.
And then when their offense clicks,
then they dominate.
But their offense hasn't been clicking that much,
but they've been winning games.
They're finding ways to win games.
And you got head coach Sean Payton,
who's been in the league for so long,
who's one of the best coaches.
and when you got one of the best coaches
he knows a lot of situations in football
and he knows how to win those situations
so they just find ways to win
even if it's not flashy, even if
it's not a phenomenal
formula. It's just a formula to win
games and that's why they beat the Eagles
because they kind of beat the Eagles at their
own game, you know, by just getting
the job done and managing
the game and not turning the ball
over and just
finishing the final plays that you need to finish
at the end of the game.
Are they legit or not?
I would say they're going to come into their own once again.
It's kind of like last year.
They kind of had a slow start,
and then they came into their own.
Bo Nicks started developing more and more,
and then they went to the playoffs,
but then they had no shot versus the Buffalo Bills.
They're going to need a playmaker,
you know, like a big time playmaker
on the office side of the ball.
They got, who do they got right now?
They got Sutton.
But they got to step up more,
and we need explosive plays
if they want to be legitimate.
Yeah, I think it's early, but Sean Payton's notoriously great in October because he's a great coach.
Once you give him filmed a study of his team and the other teams, he knows how to game plan, good game plans.
So I anticipate them to continue to try to get better.
Bo Nix has to continue to get more fluid in the offense.
He's had some great late game heroics, but you want to see a little more consistency, which he's a young quarterback.
Like, he's still learning this thing himself.
So I think they're legit, but, you know, don't go out and lose the Jets next week.
Corlin Sutton caught six of eight targets for 81 yards against Mitchell with three
receptions for 64 in the fourth quarter alone.
Mitchell had previously never allowed more than two receptions or 49 yards for a receiver
an entire game.
Yeah, Mitchell's a great football player.
Sutton had a great, let's look at his little route tree, look at that.
You had a little seven bow, lot out, one down, they moved him around.
It was fun, fun little day.
That's good.
That's a good stat.
Coralyn Sutton, looking like he's going to be, you know, they got to continue to build that, right?
They got to continue to build off of it as well.
They only have, what, 20 games together?
They got to continue to build, and the way that he played like Sutton coming up big,
you know with those catches on a big drive they need to have that on a consistent basis their defense
taking the ball away too their defense is just so great they just can't rely on the defense so they got
to make big plays explosive plays put up some points so then they can trust in each other and compliment
each other so it's up to bow nicks yeah it really is i really truly believe that it is up to bow next it is
up to bo next it is up to bo next it is up to the quarterback but it's also you have to understand he's young
so he's learning too so you can't just like think he's joe montana or tom brady and there's going to be bumps in the road but you're seeing progression with bow nicks and how he's winning some of these games and it's not ugly but it's still a win and it's hard to win in this league and to say if they're legit or not i'm going to say not and this is why because legit teams are consistent on a on a weekly basis well they're building to becoming legit well well
And that's why it's too early to even say are they legit or not.
But if I had to answer, they're very inconsistent at, you know, this time of the year
with what we've seen with the Denver Broncos.
The Sean Payton ought to coach in October.
Yes, he does.
So as of right now, inconsistency haunts you in the end, you know.
It comes back to bite you in the rear end and you will lose gains because of it.
But like you said, with Sean Payton, you know, coming alive.
in October and November and knowing how to get this team going,
that consistency can get there like it did last year,
the end of the year for them.
But it wasn't there at the beginning of the year.
So it's just too early.
It's too early, you know.
It is just too early.
But everyone, that's why the NFL is crazy.
Everyone just wants to make assumptions and just labeled teams of what they are
when there's so many games left.
Fun division.
Yeah, it is.
It's fun.
But that's why we love the NFL because it's fun.
you just one week your team's the greatest team in the NFL and then the next week you're
freaking throwing the remote at the wall breaking your TV screaming and yelling getting in fights
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chilled because of the football and then uh before we we got to give our thoughts and prayers to
the jones family chan john the whole jones family for losing a member art he was uh we played
against him a bunch sad news terrible news uh love you guys and praying for you guys yes terrible
news i met arthur a bunch of twice great guy really fun down to earth um
You know, the oldest brother out of them.
I'm thinking about you, Chan, thinking about you, John Bones, Jones.
We're praying for you guys.
And we just want to give our thoughts to the whole entire Jones family.
We love you, Chan.
And we're wishing you well.
And God be with you guys.
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