Games with Names - Dudes on Will Campbell & Matt Light
Episode Date: September 4, 2025Will Campbell and Matt Light are in studio! Our blindsides are safe in this Left Tackle episode from The DUNKIN' Nuthouse in Boston. We're talking all things O-Line, Matt shares some classic tales fro...m his days with the Patriots, and we get Will's take on life in the league thus far. We also get on Will's Dude, Tyrann Mathieu, and talk what makes LSU football so special. We put Will and Matt through our patented Dude Questionnaire to find out what kind of dude each of them are in this week's Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Can you confirm, would you really die for Drake May?
I would. That's my guy. That's my guy.
I mean, I don't know what made me say it in the moment,
but it came out great.
Yeah. And you still stand by it.
I stand by it, yeah.
Matt, would you die for Tom Brady?
It depends on, like, what he's leaving my kids.
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And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes.
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We have left tackles Matt Light and Will Campbell in studio.
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Will earning the LSU number seven, gaining lots of respect.
Jayden, Daniels, and Drake make comparisons?
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Got a hell of an episode, but before we do that,
it's time for the donut dude presented by Duncan.
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Let's go.
This is the segment where we determine which type of donut best represents our dudes.
What type of donut is Matt Light?
Well, we need something that's more stalkier, a strong donut because Matt Light is country strong.
But also, he likes to bust chops.
And what donut out there is tricky is tricking people where it's strong, tastes well,
and you don't even really realize it.
I know what it is.
Julian, what do you think?
I think he's a pumpkin donut.
donut. Oh my gosh. Because he's tricking you all at all times thinking it's Thanksgiving.
Like it's not Thanksgiving. We're not supposed to be eating a pumpkin donut in February.
And he's always, he's always, uh, pumpkining people. He's pumpkining people. Pumpkining people.
So it's pumpkining people. So it's pumpkining people. That is a great donut for Matt Light. And it's under the radar. It's kind of like a strong donut. Pumpkins are strong. Matt Light is really, really
country strong and i feel like he would be out you know on the fields just growing pumpkins or harvesting
them so yeah matt light stamp it pumpkin donut pumpkin donut what's will all right oh will
campbell we need like a a soft donut soft looking donut that just hits hard you know because will
sweet sweet sweet guy but not a guy you want to tick off or mess with you know country type
accent type of donut you know has that feel of you know being strong oh man a surprise it's like a
surprise right oh maybe like a glazed blueberry possibly i like that i like that what yeah glazed blueberry
i can see you know oh a french kriller a little bit i mean french people are strong i know he's not french
but he's a strong, strong, you know, guy.
He looks like he can curl defenders.
That's where I'm getting to.
Yeah.
No, I guess not.
What do you think?
Hang it, Jules.
This one's tough.
Is he a Boston cream?
You don't know there's cream in the middle until you bite it?
Yeah.
Yeah, possibly, because that's kind of like I said, you know, he's super nice guy.
Don't take him off.
But then once you take a bite, you're like, oh, shit, there's fucking cream in here.
Oh, yeah, and it's coming hard.
And that cream is strong tasting.
Strong taste.
He's a boss and cream.
He's a boss and cream.
All right.
You're so smart, Julian.
You just know your donuts.
Nah, I'm a donut guy.
Call me the donut king.
Okay, let's toss it to our awesome interview with Will Campbell and Matt Light.
All right, here we go.
Today, we are joined.
Who are he joined by, Robbie?
By two special guests today.
It's our first show having two special guests.
Two left tackles.
It is an honor.
I've never seen Julian so fired up before.
I like big men.
Well, yes.
I like big men.
Also, you play quarterback in college.
as well. And these are the guys that protected you so you wouldn't get hurt, Julian. And our first
guests here today is a three-time Super Bowl champ, a Patriots Hall of Famer, the man that
protected Brady's blindside for the first decade of, you know, the dynasty era. Dynasty. Dynasty.
He played one extra season because he wanted to play with me. The gron. I appreciate that, Matthew.
I did. Thank you for making me feel good.
Oh, oh, I gave it away.
We are joined by Matthew Light, ladies and gentlemen.
And then we also have the other tackle, the new tackle, the future tackle.
Rookie, fourth overall pick, LSU legend, Will Campbell.
Welcome to the show, guys.
Welcome to The Nut House here in Boston.
How are you guys doing?
This is the first time you guys have met.
Matt first with you.
What's life looking these days besides trying to.
recruit will Campbell to your your your your gun show thing the gun show yeah what is that sounds really
good actually like the guns we maybe want to change the name and just talk about that you know right
away matth we know you're going to talk about it what is it the shootout in here for one reason that's
we got up here Tuesday after the first game in september right september 9th is it this year yeah
yeah yeah we're 21st year by the way let's go 20 like 21 years so that spans like the time
before you guys going, I mean, which doesn't even seem that long ago.
No.
How old are you?
21.
21.
He started a shootout when you were in the wound.
Yeah.
Like literally, the shootout is him.
Yeah.
Like his legacy in years is our legacy in running this event, which is pretty wild.
And I do have to say that I remember getting a phone call from a mutual friend of ours who grew up in the same area.
And I remember he said, hey, man, you got.
Monroe's finest coming up there to New England, and I was like, holy smokes, I had no idea
that Will was from that part of Louisiana, which is, which is honestly a very special place, man.
It is pretty cool.
Will, what are you up to these days?
Just practicing, really, just trying to get ready for the season, get ready for week one,
finishing up training camp before we get a few days off, and that's really about it.
Now, I got a quick question off topic.
I just hit me when you started talking because it's that southern draw that you have.
I have that Louisiana.
I remember, like, the first snippet I saw of you said, you would die for Drake May.
Can you confirm, would you really die for Drake May?
I would.
That's my guy.
That's my guy.
I mean, I don't know what made me say it in the moment, but it came out great.
Yeah.
It's kind of just the emotion.
And you still stand by it.
I stand by it.
Matt, would you die for Tom Brady?
It depends on, like, what he's leaving my kids.
You know what I'm saying?
And just in full, you know,
disclosure um i think the only nice things that my kids have ever received like truly like heirloom
quality things were from tom examples example of uh okay so and this is how bad i am because
i just i don't go down this road but uh is it called armes hermes hermes hermes hermes oh hermes
hermes herpes herpes herpes so tom gave my kids herpes um herpes oh
No, he didn't. He didn't. I mean, I can say, I can say that. You guys can't say that. I didn't say that. What did you give your kids from Hermes?
Hermes? That's how you say. It's a designer clothing brand.
Listen, the day that I ever thought that you would teach me how to pronounce something and say, I mean, this is.
Today is the day, Matthew. This is it. Yeah. But I did. I got a, uh, it's a holiday now.
One of the kids got a scarf. Another one. I think they even make books. I here's what I do know. When you look it up, they're quite expensive. They're quite expensive.
And so we don't even let our kids look at them, let alone touch them.
They'll get them one day, right?
Because it was a gift.
But, you know, but so I would say that I felt like I was going to die several times
trying to protect Tommy.
And it was just the fact that I was completely out of shape and undersized.
So, and by the way, like, you think about when I came in, Grant Williams was the left tackle.
And we had, they had drafted Clem, Adrian Clem.
and I remember looking at these guys
going, I'm in the wrong spot.
And then the guys that took over when I left,
come on, man, Sebastian Valmer,
the giant German.
Giant German.
And then Nate Solder.
He's even giant her.
Can you say that?
Giant herderer.
Yes, giant errant.
You're making up words now, Joe.
Yeah.
That's my job.
And then there was me, right?
Six, four.
You know, I couldn't, I could,
I can hardly pick my own ears.
So they talk about arm length.
And now they're making all this craziness.
but, I mean, look, this is like, like, not a small human here.
No, he's a large man.
Yeah.
And I love him.
Well, speaking of, well, how do you like New England so far?
It's good.
I've been getting used to it.
I'm adjusting.
I was telling Julian, before I, you know, got drafted up here,
outside of going to an away game, the furthest north or east I'd ever been was Atlanta.
So, like, it's just, it's definitely, I guess you could say what.
some people would call the culture shock for sure but you know the football is great uh the people
are great uh so yeah it's been good so far about the food how you liking the food here
some of it's pretty good you have any clam chowder yet no i hadn't i hadn't had it i don't know
if that's really my speed my favorite spot so far is definitely aria aria oh and the north end
north end wait you like all the trees see people took that like but there's a lot of trees
People took that and made it sound like I was an idiot.
I had never, like I thought, always thought that the stadium was in downtown Boston.
Yeah, yeah.
I never knew that it was until I came up here on my 30 visit, that it was 45 minutes from the city.
So I should have went into more detail when I talked about that.
Well, I understand, because people take a lot of things I say and make me sound like an idiot as well.
So, yeah, so I understand.
What were you thinking with that?
I saw you just do something.
in your head. Well, I was just saying, like, typically, like, when I just say things, I do sound
like an idiot. Like, I don't, people don't have to, like, interpret anything. Like, it just
kind of happens that way. I would say that, like, when you, when you, when you start cruising
around here better, one of the things you're going to say is the people are great, just, but not all
of them, okay? Because that's what I remember thinking when I first got up here, I was like,
what is wrong with these people? Everybody's in a rush. It's, it's absolute chaos.
they drive like it's combative that's what it is it's the people it's the old ladies with the road rage
and like i'm just like yeah why are you flipping me off like with style though they're typically
pretty pretty pretty jazzy driving like a nice vehicle i'll tell you one thing though
about the people of new england they are cold they are kind of they have a mean to them
but i tell you if you're in need of help real help compared to other like
I live in other parts of the country where people are nice and they put on a front of being
nice, but if they saw you getting robbed right in front of them, they would walk by.
People in New England, they'd help you.
You know, they're assholes, but because that's just what they, it's so fucking cold here,
you've got to be something.
It's almost like the head coach, right?
Like I tell people all the time, I'm like, Braves, like, he's the biggest jerk in the room,
but he's your jerk.
Yeah.
And you're going to love him.
Yeah.
I remember when he first came to the team, it was.
like, oh man, this dude's got an edge. And I knew just from some of the stories at Ohio
stayed back in the day. But then, you know, you get to know Braves and you're like, that's
my guy. And New Englanders are kind of the same way, man. It takes a bit of a buy-in.
Like, you need to walk around on this ground for a minute or two before they're going to recognize
the fact that you're actually here. But once they do, sky's the limit, man. And honestly,
it's why we, it's why we stayed. I mean, it's, you know, my kids, you know, grew up here and we
didn't want to disrupt that but on the on the flip side you know we met some amazing people
amazing people now will you know matt light's like best friends with your coach you have any
questions about raves that you you have prepared to ask that you may need from matt i don't know
give me a second to think i'm sure you think about that have you been to redstocks game yet
i have he actually took us took all the rookies to a game that's pretty cool i'm really
not like a huge baseball guy like i definitely cannot watch MLB game on tv but like going to a stadium
eating a dog not into eating hot dogs no hot dogs no but some nachos or something like that watch a game
i i can go with that would you do batting practice if they asked you too yeah i would do that for sure
not being a huge baseball guy but you came from a a school where baseball is huge they're winning national
championships they're always in contention and uh you had a you guys had the first pick of
the draft of the MLB draft and pitcher Paul Skeens.
Did you meet him at all while you're down there at LSU?
Yeah, so he was actually there while, that was my freshman year.
Him, Dylan Cruz was the second pick of the draft.
And then this past year.
They went one two that year?
Yeah.
Shit, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
And then they had one do go like 25.
And then they just had a kid go number three.
So they produce a lot of talent.
Do you meet Livy Dunn?
Yeah, I know her.
Yeah.
I know her, too.
She's a sports illustrated swim-sum model with my girl.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I met her a few times at the parties.
But I never met Paul Skeenj yet, and I've only heard great things about him.
But how big is he?
Oh, he's huge.
He's huge.
Great dude.
All about America, too.
Really?
All about America.
Sweet.
So, like, you would love him as well.
I love that.
We would all of them.
Like, I got to have your thoughts on the Brady statue.
Any critiques?
What are your thoughts on it?
What would you change if you could change something about it?
I know you've been thinking about this, and I know you want to air this out.
And I want to get right to that bracelet.
I just saw it for the first time last week.
In person?
Yeah.
Or pictures.
I was up elevated position looking down on it.
We want to hear your thoughts.
I didn't get right up on it.
But before we do that, can we go back just a quick little rewind?
Did you get like, was there a problem?
Did you choke on a hot dog when you're?
Why don't you like hot dogs?
I just don't.
You've never liked a hot dog?
Yeah, I think my mom, like, whenever I was, like, six or seven told me what they were made of, and I just, like, I don't really want to eat them.
Okay, so you would eat, like, because I brought, I brought, you know, snacks, like a good elk dog or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just not eating Oscar Meyer from.
All right.
Stop and shot.
Yeah, I feel better now because I don't like the judge, Will, and you're a great young man.
But I was starting to get a little judgy.
I was like, I'm not sure about this guy.
You're going to eat the hot dogs Matt Light producers, though.
You guarantee you that.
Yeah, they're good.
But they are, they're all natural.
They are?
Natural casings, the whole nine made with love.
But, okay, so on the statue, so you guys have obviously been up close and were you there for like the whole unveiling?
Was not.
Okay, I wasn't either.
We were out of town.
Same.
I just, I want to know this much, right?
So the most iconic thing, like if I had to pick, I do like the arm up thing is kind of like it is him.
I wouldn't say it's like the first thing I would have thought of.
What was the first thing you would have thought of?
The double hand, although we used to call that the lighthouse because the guys used
always make fun.
It was my only move I had.
It was like, throw both hands up.
But Tommy did that quite a bit, right?
Both hands up, you know, yes.
And then celebration.
So the one arm, I mean, maybe it was just easier for the bronze guy to do the one arm versus
the two arm.
I don't know.
The problem I had right out the gate is it looks.
lonely. Like, are we doing anything else around there? It's like the base. He's kind of in that big
concourse all by himself. Yeah. Right? I think he needs a little squirrel next to him. That's what I
think. I was thinking like Logan and I and Copen since we're local, we could go meet with the
bronze guy. We could accompany him, kind of get around him, make him feel a little bit more at home.
You guys should definitely get cast as well, you know? I don't think that. Or we could just go
stand there and act like, do we get a check? That's probably not.
Probably not. Probably not. I'll still be there.
You've seen it though up close in person. No, I haven't yet. I haven't either. I've only seen
pictures. I'm going to see it soon, though. I'm excited. I thought they got the face done pretty
well. Hey, here's one thing I will tell you. The body, the body, as well. They got the body done.
They got the wide rib cage because he did wear that big rib cage thing. Yep. Yep.
Skin tone looks great. You can obviously tell no night shades went into that man.
None.
And here's what I would say, though. I am, and this is my own theory on this.
I'm not saying I have any proof of this, but come on now.
I was up there at Patriot Place at, say, 9.30 on like a Tuesday.
And while I was there, I'm not kidding you, I saw at least four different groups of women,
not a woman, but like three to four that were all googly-eyed over the statue and taking
pictures and having their friends, individual group shot, grabbing people.
Here's my theory.
That's some of a bitch is paying these people.
people to do this. There's no doubt my mind. That's not organic. You don't find like groups of
women like that. And by the way, like they were kind of all done up in the whole nine. I think he's
got them on rotation. Just make sure you keep having girls go by there and make it look like
everybody's taking pictures. Wait a minute. You think Tom's paying people to go take pictures
in front of his brand new beautiful? Is it Tom or is it RKK paying these groups of ladies?
I don't I don't know that RKK's ever paid, you know, women to.
you think there will be a bill statue maybe i'm just that that's why i'm thinking it's Tommy that's
that's what i'm saying that's a good question what will there be a bill statue eventually
one day and and will it be on a little tiny pedestal all by itself in the concourse i don't know
i don't know and i'm not i'm not judging where they put it i think they probably got a long way to
go but you know he look lonely is what i'm saying and and i think he's paying women to go down
there and hang out with the statue that's kind of where i was going with all this will have you
ever met tom i have not i saw him at the preseason game after the have you met his statue i've seen
it i haven't gone up and taken a picture with it how's camping going it's been good first camp
first nfl camp it's a lot different it's a lot longer than college like college you know it's really
only like two weeks of practice and then you know you're in game week this was a little bit more
long but it's been great uh it's a lot different uh in terms of like players
and playbook it's just a lot more you know information which is pretty cool i enjoy that type of stuff
and uh but yeah it's been great so far what's been the biggest adjustment from college to pro ball
is it the size of the players that you're going against or is it the speed of the game i think it's just
like the the depth of the guys you know like whenever you're in college uh and you know the ones
on the the edge you know they go take a blow the guy coming in it really didn't matter what school
he probably just wasn't even close to, you know, the guy that was in there first.
And, you know, the guy that comes off the bench might do something that you have more problems with than the first guy.
So I'd say that's the biggest thing.
There's really not a drop-off no matter who is in or out of the game.
Yeah, that's the truth.
Matt, you know, you played how many seasons again, 11?
Do you have any advice for Will going into week one?
Well, I can tell you, my week one won't be like your week one.
because I got injured in camp
and I remember Bill was trying to put me a right tackle
and then like literally
the week leading up to our season opener
against Cincinnati on the road
he's like hey man you feel good enough to practice
and I'm like I mean I think I can probably go now
and he's like a good we're going to put you back at left
and I'm like oh my gosh
and he's like I can just be ready to go
and then I was late to my first meeting
so that that'd be my number one bit of advice
don't be late
because we're actually playing in Cincinnati and my family like they literally there was not a person in my hometown I don't think like every church bus was rented everything they all come down and it's like I thought he was gonna play and Bill literally walked up to me the day of not not the night before when I missed the meeting the the day of the game it was like I mean look you know I'm not I'm not starting a guy that can't even make it to a effing meeting and I'm like okay yeah just just just
Just keep yourself ready.
Jesus, walked away.
And that was it.
So did you start?
I did not start.
What did you put you in the game?
Yeah, after I've been sitting cold as a duck on the sideline.
And then at halftime, he's like, all right, you're going.
And I'm like, oh, I hate my life.
So you're going to be way better off.
But what made his, yeah, you're going to, you're in a way better situation, well,
because you don't want to be sitting there and then be ice cold and going in right after
half time.
But what made Bill make that?
decision like all right like light you go in now offensive tackle and pull whoever was the guy
that was there right then was he getting beat did he give up three sacks well what was his reasoning
like all right let's get let's get light in there now i think he just wanted to see you know how
was going to handle the situation be honest with you i mean he could have you know how bill is like
once you make a mistake he plays games with you to make sure you don't make that mistake again
that's a fact and he was sending a clear message now i will say that i i was only late to two meetings
in my life both of them were the night before games and
Fast forward a few weeks, about midway through the season, my rookie year.
I missed another team meeting the night before the game, but this time I was with the only other two left tackles, or the only other tackles on the team.
So he couldn't, he was just like kind of forced to let us play.
But I would say this, man, it's, what I need to know is when it comes to what you guys have done so far in training camp, is there such a thing as a rookie skit or a rookie show?
Does it exist anymore?
It does, it does.
Man, this is so great.
How's Brable to think they've been going?
Well, we had, you know, the rookie show.
I guess that was last week.
It didn't go great.
Uh-oh.
Okay.
So what was the expectation?
Like, did you get like a little bit of a coaching after your first one?
Like, hey, we need to step this up?
Well, it was all the rookie class.
And, you know, we kind of planned out, you know, this whole hour worth of stuff.
Yes.
An hour fun show, variety show.
Yeah, yeah.
The first part.
lots of booze that we heard from the locker room.
So the opening act didn't go so well?
The first couple opening act.
First couple.
Luckily, you know, me, a few of the other O'Lyman, Kyle Williams,
we were able to get a couple laughs there at the end,
tried to, you know, say today,
but Braves told us that it was the worst rookie show ever seen in 20 years.
That was not good.
What was the punishment?
right he i think if honestly if we wouldn't know you know had to if we would have been terrible at
the end completely bombed they they would have made us redo it but he was just he was thinking about
doing it but i i just i think you need to contact matt light because matt used to do a series of
videos like he would he took this shit to heart like he would do a hairy carry impersonation it
It would take him probably 40 hours to make the entertainment for the team.
So all those meetings he was probably missing night before game.
He was probably getting something ready to entertain the team.
I will never forget Mike Compton, who was center slash guard, right, played in the league
forever, was a veteran veteran by the time I got here in 2001 for my rookie year.
I remember Mike was like, all right, rook, get up there and sing your fight.
song and this was just like an impromptu like at lunch or something right or maybe at dinner or whatever
and i remember thinking yes yes i've been waiting for somebody to call me out because a i like to
sing i'm not saying i'm good but i do like to sing and b everybody else was singing their five song and
they kind of sucked so he's like yeah rook get up there and dance and i of course i'm like no no no you
don't want to hear me and then it was like all right and i did like a whole it was good man so
Catalita fucking wine mixer.
That's right.
Yeah, it was fun to go through, like, I went back in time and I was reliving some of the rookie skits and some of the things.
And I'll never forget my rookie year.
We did Patriots Jeopardy and then Patriots Who Wants to Be a Millionaire or something like that.
And we had some great questions and we, and man, we got on the coaches.
We got on the players.
I remember we had some of our rookies.
were Ty and Lawyer Malloy, and those conversations between those two are legendary.
Man, that shit, man.
You know, just, you know, phone a friend, and it's Ty calling lawyer.
I mean, we had so much fun back in the day with the rookie skits.
And I think for some reason, the outside world got a bad taste of like, oh, it's hazing
or whatever.
It was never that in my eyes.
And honestly, on all the teams I played on, we actually had fun.
It brought us closer together.
and it kind of forced us to get to know the guys on the team, right?
And I think that's always been the intent.
I think there's, you know, I've heard stories of guys that kind of took it the wrong way
or got upset about it or whatever.
But I would think it's a great tool, man.
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's something to be embarrassed.
Like, I remember being so nervous for doing my, I just did the fight song, got booed off,
did a couple things where I was Welker and.
and Tom, but that sense of embarrassment in front of the guys.
It's different.
Like, you need to feel that.
You need to feel that because it, after you felt it, you guys, it kind of brings you
together.
It makes you more comfortable in the long run with everyone as well, in the locker
room.
See, we did the Jeopardy, and they hated it.
You did it.
They hated it. Yes.
It still lives.
So, so what, what are, do you remember some of your all-time favorite guys?
Yeah, we had, we had, Ornberger.
Oh, thank you.
Ornberger was elite.
We just told him to go improv and he remember he brought the whiteboard out and told the Joe Paa story and illustrated it and had the whole team storytelling ability unbelievable.
And then we also made a video.
You remember when we made the video of your Sobe commercial when you guys were in all white ballerina things?
Orrumburger was doing that with his big eyes gut.
It was pretty.
Those were some fun ones.
That was classic.
Who's been the best on yours so far, Will?
The best rookie?
Can anyone sing?
Dance.
I'd say Jeremiah Webb.
Jeremiah Webb, why?
What do he do?
He's just funny.
He's just kind of...
What position?
Receiver.
Braves loves him.
He always goes to him for the good jokes.
I would definitely say he's the best one so far.
A jokester.
Yeah, he's definitely got a lot of...
Gets everyone laughing.
For sure.
He just goes up there and people start laughing, so it's just good.
That was always...
That was Orrneberger.
Ornberger was so great.
So another thing I have to know is like, how often do y'all laugh like crazy at stuff
Vravel does?
Because that son of a gun is one of the funnier guys out there.
I mean, he has an edge to him.
He's always had an edge.
He's the boss, though.
He's the boss.
But there have to be times where he says something, I don't know, something.
Yeah, he'll say some stuff and everybody will laugh.
And then he'll say some stuff where it'll be crickets and he'll be.
like guys that was a joke and then nobody will laugh but it kind of just varies back and
forward but he does say some interesting stuff so i've said this before but literally this is one of
my favorite brable moments of all time brable's in my hometown for a charity event for the
foundation early early on like 2003 2004 and vrabel listens to my mayor's say some proclamation
about making it mat light day and my little you know podunk hometown right and
And when he does that, he messes up the word matriculate, like horrible, horribly.
Like, he's clearly reading a proclamation that he didn't write.
And when he says it, he's like, he stumbles over it like four or five times and then finally
gets through it.
Well, an hour, two hours later, we're doing the auction.
And it's a stagnant.
So it's all guys in this VFW hall, small town USA.
And the guy who is our auctioneer is trying to sell this item.
And Vrable gets up.
And I'm like, oh, shoot, this is going to be something.
Grabbs the mic from this dude.
And he's like, hey, listen, if you all don't start spending some real money, that's what we're here for.
If you all don't start spending some real money, I'm going to get the mayor up here,
and I'm going to pay him $10,000 if he can spell matriculate.
And I remember falling out of my chair.
And I'm just thinking, this is awkward.
This is uncomfortable.
That's my guy, though.
It was great.
Well, do you think y'all eat shit for doing this interview and telling the world that
Vrabel's half of his jokes suck.
But you got light to back you up.
You can be like, you know, I was not going to help you any.
That's not going to help?
Why not?
Aren't you like good friends with Vrabel?
Well, I mean, I, I mean, you have said he's, you know, he's an asshole like 20 times since he's been the head coach.
But a, a beautiful asshole.
Right.
Right.
He's our.
Yeah.
Our jerk.
Yeah.
But what do you think?
You think he's going to come out of you for this?
Yeah.
He definitely will.
Yeah.
But it's just part of it.
Yeah.
I like that, man.
Yeah, it's just part of it.
I'll be prepared for it tomorrow.
Well, you already whooped his ass in the pre-draft process, didn't you?
Didn't you?
Can you explain what happened?
Did he try to, like, what, put the pads on and, you know.
Did he put pads on?
Come to your pro day.
He put pads on one on.
He actually had.
He had, so we had a private, like, the little workout the week before the draft.
And, you know, they all come in.
And it was me and one of my other teammates, my life.
Frazier and we get there an hour early and set up a bunch of pads for him and all the
line coaches to use and here he comes I'm looking through the indoor down the hallway and he's
walking in and he's got his he brought his own pad and I was like all right so I guess we don't
need any of that and he took every single rep I think in that whole entire hour hour and a
half workout. We had his shirt ripped. He had to go get newer clothes for equipment, but yeah,
I might have got the best of them on one of them. Now, when you hear that story, what do you think,
Matt? Oh, immediately, I go back to the fact that we would get done with like a grueling.
And again, I'm not trying to, you know, degrade what you guys do today. But back in the day,
like, when we practice, it was legit. Like, it was full pads every day, uphill, no shoes in the
snow, like crazy.
Rabel would come back in and almost always go get on the treadmill and run like another
30 miles because he's like a freak of nature when it comes to energy and everything else.
And here, and I'll have a theory on this one too.
And I know you've seen him, you know, like lightly clothed, right?
Let's just say like cruise, not because it's weird, all right?
It's locker room.
It's just a locker room.
Yeah, men.
So, and, uh, you've seen the amount of hair on that man, right?
he's like a chinchilla a chubaca yes he's like fully to the point of by the way newsflash
one of the greatest outfits i've ever seen for Halloween Vrable did and I'm gonna tell you
hats off to him he shaved his arms down like this he then shaved around his neck and came down
and then shaved a circle a circle and his belly button was the last one he was wearing his own
cardigan and it was unbelievable now i know you just pictured that right i did and you know how
white you are when you have that much hair it doesn't even matter if you've been outside of your
life it was the the greatest contrast but personal contrast that you could ever have so
i think all that hair somehow people with a lot of hair tend to have a lot of energy but you're
telling me that when he was up against you he was coming like he was he was bringing it yeah
we are going full speed i mean obviously we didn't have helmets or anything on uh but yeah we
were working backside cutoffs and do he stretch before uh no not really he kind of just walk
i think he's freaky like that he is man you you got to give him credit to be able to do that
for an hour straight going against a young buck like you that's fucking powerful ready to go at all
time rabble's an absolute savage and beast for doing that man and it's that's different he's
Different.
Will, could he still play four plays?
Do you think he got to play in him?
Definitely.
Matt, do you think you got to play in him?
I'm not saying he could get a sack in four plays, but he could definitely go out there.
He's going to hit.
Set the edge?
Set the edge?
Make the running back go the other way?
Every practice, every position's indie drill, doing the drills, doing the drills, holding the bags.
I mean, they're in OTAs.
He's out there after practice.
We would condition, and he's running gassers with the skill guys.
I'm like, this dude's a maniac.
And by the way, think about all the injuries.
Like my one knee, you know, I complain about all this little stuff, you know,
and that dude's never stopped.
No, not at all.
If you don't, like, nothing ever holds him back.
Oh, shit.
I wish I had that stamina still.
And, like, you played against them, well, because you played against him in practice all the
time and being his teammate.
Like, what kind of player was he?
Obviously, at the linebacker position, you probably went one-on-one versus him a couple
times and smacked, smacked each other at the line of scrimmage.
like was he a fierce competitor how strong was rabel strengths in his prime prime yeah and i can go
all the way back to uh my freshman year at peru right i was starting to tie in tight end you play
tight end college yeah i look like you never told me this i was talking about your rain man abilities
before we're you know you know the one stat that you just don't well exactly yeah yeah like at
at no point did you think athletic until right now now you're like oh maybe there's an athlete
hiding in there. How many couches did you have?
One. Really? They threw the ball to me
once. How many yards?
19 yards and the first down ran over Charles
Woodson. Michigan
1996. Listen, I'm not
saying that I remember all the details.
It was kind of a big deal.
144 yards.
Well, thank you.
Yeah.
No, I, look, I can tell you,
I remember playing against him when he was
at Ohio State and he had
you know, Finkus and Vrae. I mean, they had such a
great defensive line back then, and they had an edge. So the same way that I got to know him
as a teammate, you know, that preceded him all the way back to the college days at Ohio State
where those guys went hard, man. They had fun. They got after it, but when they were on the
field, man, it was everything. And I think that kind of defines that era, right? A lot of the
guys that we played with, man, back in the day, they had the ability to have a great time
off the field but when we were on the field man it was nothing but doing everything we could do
to be the best team we could be and that's a rare like now i think guys have a hard time it's you know
it's it's a i've seen guys go over the edge party way too much have way too much fun right we've all
seen that you're looking at some guys yeah we've all been there yeah we've all been there you got to
learn from that situation though when that happens like oh shit i party too hard maybe i got to
take off you know the next time maybe just go to bed uh but yeah i've been there
there before, but it's a great balance when you know how to party with your teammates and then
go back out in the football field and just absolutely dominat together. It brings you, it brings
you that like energy like, okay, we're friends off the field. We bond off the field. We're going to
kick some ass now on the field as well. And I think Vrable was like one of the one of the king pens of
that, right? Like that dude knew how to have a good time. He was always busting people's chops. He was
always pissing off Tommy in practice right like I mean but it was good it wasn't like I'm just
pissing him off to piss him off it was like I'm going to get under his skin and I'm going to try
to rattle him a little bit in practice on a regular like like it was he was that guy but I think
you know the tools that he brought you know was he was a smart smart football player so he's
going to be in the right position he's going to make the right you know reads and he's going to
react you know appropriately and he had enough of that
you know, I want to bury you in the dirt mentality that he's going to get under your skin,
man. And that was his thing. Now, do you see, does coach try to play those mental games with
guys in practice or on the field to try to, like, try to prepare him for a really freaking
crazy situation or some absurd, like get under this guy's skin, try to get them all hot and heavy?
Like having a coach like that, has he tried that with you guys at all?
Yeah, I mean, he definitely will push your buttons just to kind of see how you react.
I mean, like, he's not, I think, you know, you can talk crap to him, and he's not going
just be quiet.
He's going to come back at you.
He always talks about it.
He loves to talk shit more than anybody, and he'll do it with anybody.
So it's cool to have for sure.
Now, that's why light's still scared of him.
Hey, by the way, he was.
That was an evil laugh, by the way.
That was an evil laugh.
I didn't mean he's like you've been seeing over training camp like he's getting in the trenches
he's break he's breaking up fights how does that set the tone for like you players like do you guys
think it's more beneficial he's doing that because he's getting in the mix or is it like coach
come on we got this like we can break up the fight we're fighting we're going to handle this
yeah i mean i think i think it's pretty cool because you know most guys are just standing there
Yeah.
We obviously, you know, probably don't need help.
And, you know, we are messing.
I was messing with him and he was messing with me about it.
The one in Washington, we were arguing who got to the pile first.
And I was like, the reason your face is scratched is because my face mask, you jumped on me.
But, no, it's been cool.
But, yeah, he understands how important the trenches are.
and I think that's something
that he really emphasizes
and like I said
that's where the game is won up there
must be pretty cool too as well
to know that you have a head coach
that can probably whoop all 31
other NFL head coach's asses
besides there's Dan Campbell
Detroit Lions I think that would be an absolute battle
like who would give him
like who would give Rable
you know some
some struggles in a fight
30 I don't you don't watch
the league that much.
I don't, but I think
you're going to have to look
at some of these assistant coaches, too.
Because, like, the head coach is,
okay, yeah, I would go out
in a limb and say that he's going to
whoop up on all the head coaches.
Even Dan Campbell?
I think so.
Yeah.
I mean, Rayble isn't going to fight fair, by the way.
He's got the loose screw.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Dan Campbell has the juice,
but he doesn't have the stamina like
Ravel.
I don't think so.
Yeah, like he drinks like 800 milligrams of caffeine.
Like how much hair does he have?
on his body probably not much and speaking of dan campbell related to you at all well no he is not
that would have been pretty cool yeah what were you going to say though like yeah no i think uh i think
some of these yeah look i think braves is uh i think he he would hold he would hold his hone
anywhere and i think it would be a lot of fun i just want to know like what's going to happen when it's
like when something like that happens in a real situation you think he's still going to go out there
I mean, that's the question I have.
In a real game, if we do have like a serious brawl that breaks out.
No shot.
Is he throwing the head sets off?
No, no shot, because that would be kind of stupid because I'm pretty sure that's a penalty.
Yeah, penalty, 15-yard penalty.
So that's a smart guy.
That's hurting the team there.
And findable.
He's not going to do that.
No, no, that don't make sense.
Training camp's different.
Practice?
Practice is different.
Yes.
Yeah.
Now, Will, can you talk to us about wearing number seven?
I've never seen the linemen wear number seven in my life at LSU.
yeah so actually I was the first one to ever get seven as offensive line in LSU I was honestly like shocked whenever I got it you know going into my sophomore year how did that happen did you ask for or would they were like yeah we love you will you can wear number seven so every last practice before you know you finish training camp and you're about to move into game prep they do you know the announcement of seven and 18 at LSU
and I was honestly sitting in the back
just like this isn't going to be me
I play O-line
and he called my name
and showed the seven jersey
with my last name on
and it was honestly
just like a surreal feeling
because whenever you're a young kid
in Louisiana you grow up watching LSU
all the players that you know
you're imitating in the front yard
whenever you're playing pickup football
war number seven at LSU
I was telling Julian earlier
outside of my
bedroom at my parents house my uh my school pictures are in the ls u number seven jersey so you know
for that to happen it was super cool wow and so is that like the is that like a famous number there
i don't know ls u history is that like the dude at lsu always wears seven yeah so patrick peterson
started it uh and it went from patrick peterson to tyrant matthew jemar chase derrick stingley you know
They, I guess you could say that, yeah.
So you're the first non-skill player to wear number seven.
That's a big deal.
You're a special player, then.
LSU loves you.
Can we stop with that terminology?
What's that?
I mean, it is condescending.
It's condescending to say we don't have skills.
I know, I know what you intended it to be.
Yeah.
But it's, it is a slap in the face.
By the way, do you know that.
What shall we say?
Skill player.
Oh.
We can be a skilled player.
A skill large.
A large.
Oh, so you're the first large scale player to wear number seven at LSU.
Thank you.
Yeah, first, yeah, there we go.
You see the difference, though?
Do you see the difference in the connotation?
Like, I would have had a hard time, like, even respond to that.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not going to, like, look, I have no problem.
I call you a skill player because I've been around you.
I know you're skilled.
Like, I would feel like you would just throw us the same, just decent decency.
I would call you a skill player, Matt.
Thank you.
I would.
Thanks, schools.
You're very skilled.
the field.
Thank you.
And a lot of things you do.
Yeah.
I work hard, man.
And I appreciate that.
Yep.
I do have an award at home.
What's this award?
And it was an ESPN thing.
And they mailed it.
I mean, they didn't even say anything about it.
But there's probably a reason because on it, it literally says it's like in recognition
for being a non-skilled, non-QB, not like, it's basically everything that isn't like really
awesome, that's what you are.
And that was what the award is. I swear,
I'm going to send you pictures of this thing. They change it to the
protector of the year now. It's the
protector. Maybe that was their intent.
I highly doubt it. But at the
time, I remember I got it and I was like, oh, it's cool.
It's got a big gold football with a cool
like, you know, I don't know, walnut
base and this big giant
plaque. And the only reason it's a giant plaque is they had
to say, here's all the things you aren't.
And these are all the things that people find cool,
but that's you. And I remember
thinking this is, this is
I thought it was a joke as you know always busting chops and I'm like somebody sent me this
that took a lot of effort I but then I found out no Stacy James Stacy's like no that's a real
thing like that's so somebody sent you there yeah it was from it was an actual award yes and it said
non QB yeah it and I wish I had I wish I still had the exact verbi because the minute you saw it
you'd be dying laughing like yep that's you I didn't get it from
ESPN. I got this thing, though.
Somebody sent to my locker during OTAs, and I just thought it was funny.
So I get there, and I'm about to work out, and I had this little package, and I open up.
And, you know, some fans will send you mail and stuff, and it had a return address on it.
And I open it, and they sent a plastic T-Rex to my locker.
And they said, Will Camp, can you please sign this for me?
And I took a picture of it.
I sent it to my parents.
I was just like,
this is so funny.
That is the best.
No.
You should put that thing up in that locker
and after you guys get some good-ass plays,
when you're doing your media,
it's a little red and blue T-Rex.
I kept it in my locker.
Yeah.
It's like the gargoy I used to have in the locker.
Gargoyle from.
So great.
Or, you know,
he put an actual live duck in somebody's locker in that locker.
Well, Donald's locker.
His name was Donald's locker.
Jeff's locker. Donald the duck. He literally put a real duck when we came in from
practice. He put it in where the cleats go, you know, and you look, I don't know, they have
the pullouts now. I saved that duck's life, by the way. I bought it from a butchery
on Atwell's Avenue in Providence. It was like a legit old school butchery. And it's like
grandfathered in. And I walked in there and a little terrible smells, man, all kind of different
birds and whatnot. And I was like, you guys got a duck. And he's like, oh, yeah, what kind of duck
you want. And he brings it out and he's about ready to chop the head off. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Leave
that duck alone. I'm taking him home. Didn't Nate Solder, like, keep that duck? I think it's his
head up. I got to take this call real quick. All right. Let's pause real quick. Is that all right?
Is it the president? We'll be right back after this quick break.
Mount Rushmore of LSU football players to you. To me, man.
that's difficult i definitely say i'll look them up for you i'll i'll have to throw
a o lineman in there so i'll put andrew whitworth whit hey wit's a fucking monster the best
uh tyron matthew and patrick peterson corner big we battled a lot in arizona
patrick peterson in there too so that's three three who's gonna top it off i'm gonna say it because
I played with him, and even though we didn't win a championship, if we would have, I feel like
it would have solidified, you know, a lot more stuff, but Jaden Daniels.
Jaden Daniels.
Electric.
Electric.
Yes.
You ever meet Burrow?
No, I haven't met him.
You haven't met him?
How is that?
Yeah, Jaden, they had Burrow, and then they have Jane Daniels, who's had the best rookie football
season for a quarterback in the history of the game.
And now you're going to Drake May.
Yes, I've been very fortunate to play with some talented quarterbacks.
I mean, my first two years, I mean, yeah, my first two years at LSU.
I play with Jaden.
Last year, played with Nuss, who's going to have a heck of a year this year.
He'll be a guy that goes pretty high.
It's actually my girlfriend's brother.
Oh, wow.
That's called a breeder.
That's called a breeder there, boys.
they start off with Clemson, so I'm excited to watch him light them up.
Is there any similarities between Drake and Daniels?
There is in the way that I think they're both very poised.
I haven't really got to play in a full game environment with Drake yet,
but just from what I've seen so far in a couple preseason snaps,
and, you know, in practice, he's very poised.
And he doesn't flinch.
That's something that Jaden never did.
Like, it didn't matter if it was the first play or if it was the last play to win the game.
It was just steady.
It wasn't up and down emotion.
But I'm going to need, I think they're both very talented.
They both play very different styles of football, but they're both two heck of quarterbacks.
What leadership skills has Drake displayed in camp?
He's a great vocal leader.
I think, you know, just Braves pushes him for sure, you know, just become like the leader of the team.
And, you know, I think whenever Braves play with Tom, y'all has such a good example of a quarterback, you know, leading.
And I think that's what, you know, he wants for us.
And, you know, Drake's definitely growing each and every day.
And you can see him doing that and guys, you know, look into him.
But at the end of the day, we move as he moves.
and, you know, we know that and he knows that.
And so he's done a great job, though,
just commanding the offense, getting us all on the same page,
and I'm excited for it.
Like, what were the young characteristics of Tom Brady
when he was coming in after Blood So's got hospitalized by the Jets?
Like, what were these young characteristics of Tommy?
I think, you know, going back, I mean, we had Michael Bishop
was in between, you know, Tommy as the third and Bloodsoe, right?
And, you know, Bishop was unique in terms of, you know, his skill sets and what he could do.
And Tommy was kind of, you know, the guy that would get a few reps here and there.
And, you know, you'd see him.
But you always, you knew he was always mentally prepared, you know, like, you knew that he was, he was knowledgeable, that he was going to make good decisions just because, you know, his work ethic and what he put into it.
Now, all that went up a whole other level, you know, once he got to nod.
But, you know, I think, I think early on the thing that surprised all of us.
And you got to remember, I mean, I didn't know if the ball was pumped or stuffed at that point, right?
I mean, like, as Dante would say, like, light, you're the worst, you know, mother effing.
You know, like, I was always getting dog cussed because I had no idea what I was doing.
Yeah.
And so, you know, week two, you know, Mo Lewis literally severs in all.
artery in the chest of blood so and he almost bled out and like the whole team is like and
our quarterback coach had passed away during training camp I mean it was it was a crazy year man
it was a lot ups and downs 9-11 I mean all these things converge and now we've got a quarterback
who most of us thought bishop was going to be stepping in right and no like bill gave this young
dude the nod and I remember time look we were both in the big 10 at the same time I'd
never heard his name. You know, like, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I just mean like,
you know, Tommy wasn't like the guy, right? And so now he's stepping in, but the thing that always
struck me was it never felt like you were with a guy starting for the first time. You know,
and even the ups and downs, like the early part of that, you know, his first four, five, six
games was like a roller coaster. But then we went on that run after Thanksgiving. And by that point,
right, which is mere weeks into his, you know, rain as, as,
as the, as the guy, it was an old, it was old half for him, man.
He, he, he knew how to lead.
He knew how to be the guy.
He knew that people were looking to him and everything he did corresponded
with what a leader would do, you know?
And by the way, you know the name you didn't.
And I didn't have to look this up, but, um, didn't say a word about my man,
K. Falk.
Kevin Falk.
I mean, I mean, now listen, I'm not trying to, return or leader.
So I put it this one, whenever I do something like that.
it's the guys you played with no it's the guys that i've seen play yeah yeah i'm with you i respect
i honestly never like watched a whitworth game live but just we grew up in the same hometown
so like whenever i started playing oline that's somebody who i looked up to so that's how i've
watched this game but like the other guys i've had to watch those with my eyes because i'm not
going back to watch the vintage film really vintage at that point did you ever meet k falk
he can't feel like yeah probably quite a bit of
He was coaching there.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
So whenever he was coached now, I was in high school, so he was recruiting me and stuff.
He's a great dude.
Awesome.
Best, man.
He's great.
Well, he's Mr. Mount Rushmore over here.
Who's the Mount Rushmore of Purdue then?
Well, I mean, listen, if he was here, Ninkovich would say he's at the top, clearly.
I mean, and then he would go on about how chiseled his abs are and how he'd look good on Mount Rushmore.
Get out of.
You got no abs.
Or hair, for that matter.
Well, he does now.
Don't say that.
He's going to start crying if he hears this.
He did the commercials.
Get a hold of Dr. LeBresdi.
I mean, whatever it was.
I don't even know who it was, but it sounds right.
You know, every time I call him, he's like, a world of investing.
I'm like, all right.
Hey, Rob.
Yeah, no, I got you.
Thank you.
You son of a gun.
No, but, I mean, Nikovic did have a hell of a career.
And obviously, Breeze.
Now, see, unlike you, you know, I struggled to raise up quarterbacks around me.
just to be good enough to be competitive.
Because the only guys I had since high school
were Breeze and Brady.
So clearly, I didn't have the sweetheart ride that you had
with these great quarterbacks.
I had to work really hard to get these guys in shape.
You know what I mean?
I'm like pronate the wrist, Tommy.
Can we thumb down?
Can we, gee, many, Chris, get the feet right.
What are we doing?
Are we stuck in mud?
C, can we get the C?
Remember we always, you see the C?
Hey, it's got to be a C.
Hold on, hold a second.
here's my favorite he would stand like this all weird standing and he would go
do-dun-dun-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d.
The Dak Prescott.
He'd work his little hit.
He wants it.
And then you see him throw the towel?
I know that was a dance move.
You know, everything.
Wasn't a good dance move.
Well, have you ever seen him dance?
I'm just saying, no.
Yeah, but I would say, you know, Purdue's an interesting place, man, like looking back on it.
You know, there were, there were guys that were, like, the OGs that stuck around Purdue in one way or another, like Leroy Keys.
You know, he was there when they went on their Rose Bowl run back in, like, Think, 67.
And Leroy was a guy that, and it was good to have some of those old school guys.
Like, I don't know how often you guys would have, like, some of the, the greats that had passed through the old alma mater.
Big Seaman came to Kent State once.
I don't know, no big deal.
Went to Kent, play D.B.
there.
Lou Holtz.
What's up?
Oh, hey, Luke.
Yeah, we had him too.
That guy.
I think he played corner.
Yeah.
40 or something.
Yeah, it's weird.
The history you don't know.
Yeah.
No big deal.
Just, they call it the Harvard of the Midwest, Kent State.
Do they?
No, they really don't.
So we got Leroyer Keyes.
He's in there?
68.
67.
We got Breeze.
Yeah, we got Breeze.
Breeze?
There's a foolback that came.
out of that fucking revolution i don't know hey hey by the way that's that's the first thing that i
got shown so he was leaving peru when i came in who all stuck that guy that guy the a train
a train i remember him dragging jeeps through the parking lot with the parking break on and that guy
was a manimal man when you watch his highlights the things he did to people ran angry and by the way
you see him today i mean the guy is like he's in great shape i mean skinny like like he's in great shape i mean skinny
You'd have no idea that he was twice that size.
Good man, the A-Train.
Yeah, he's in there.
And then who's the last one?
How many are we going for?
Like seven?
Isn't there four?
You're a historian.
We've got to do four?
Oh, that's a lot.
I mean, you know?
You know what, man?
Put Rosie Colvin in there because Rosie was an interesting guess.
So it was Chiquet O'K. O'K. Keefer and Roosevelt Colvin holding down the defensive end spots.
And really, man, that defense, because of those two primarily, they were the catalyst.
You know, they, they got us through a lot of tough matchups in the Big Ten.
Rosie was a, Rosie was a game or two.
Rosie almost ended the game that we played.
When the Patriots went to Chicago, when they were redoing the stadium, we played at Illinois Stadium.
And Rosie, it was like one of the last drives of the game and in the lead was changing back and forth like crazy.
And I remember it was like third down.
and I think this pass went to Troy Brown, if I remember correctly, and it was a sweet pass.
But Roosevelt's hand was this far from knocking the ball out of Tommy because he skinned the edge on me.
And I just opened the gate and was trying to just, and I remember the last push and I could see his hand swiping.
And I was shocked that the ball got off.
And we scored the game over.
It was awesome.
I was glad when he came to us, man, because he and I did a lot of practice so we knew each other very well.
and he was setting me up all game for that.
He was.
And he got me.
I mean, he got me.
Tommy just stepped up enough, you know.
Tommy had that ability, man.
I think that's one of the things that, you know, if you're a left tackle,
if you're blessed to have a guy who has eyes in the back of his head and somehow can just sense
that pressure and make you look really good, who, it's a big deal.
And it's not even a lot for that pocket presence.
It's literally maybe just that.
Yeah.
One slide step.
One step up.
Step up.
go back to the right, let the guy run the hump.
I mean, that is something that's overlooked so much.
Right.
And then if you're the spectator, right, you're looking at it going, I mean, why did he throw
to him or why did he do this?
Why did he do that?
It's like, well, go back and watch.
I mean, if that dude didn't get rid of the ball right when he did, it was a bad situation.
You know, not just him getting hit.
It's probably a turnover.
It's a deflead.
You know what I mean?
As Braves calls it, the kitty cats are coming.
The kitty cats are coming.
me i like it we'll be right back after this quick break and it gets you right on to it
but if you weren't late we would have been able to finish before it would have been that extra
six minutes we needed you know yeah i'd say there's some decent deer back there too man i mean i'm not
gonna say that it's crazy but it's not bad you guys are just talking about hunting you're you a
hunter my dad's a farmer so like that's kind of like what i grew up doing first time i ever went hunting
was with Matt Light. We shot the pheasant
and then he had this insane chef.
I think on the property grounds
where the shootout takes place
make this pheasant pizza.
It's fucking crazy. I don't like
gamey shit. I'm really not a fan
of it. But if you got guys that know
how to cook it, like Matt always had guys
that knew how to cook the crazy shit
that we would kill.
But that's, hey, by the way, that's what we need to do, man.
I need to get you all down. And I'll
do a full butchering demo
and break down a carcass
and then serve what we break down.
It'll blow your mind, man.
When you see it go from...
I don't know if I could see Bambi go down, dog.
Bambi.
No, you're not going to see it get shot.
You'll just see it go from the cool room.
Already hanging.
It's been hanging for three weeks, right?
And then drag it out and then break it down into all the cuts.
Like T-bones.
I got a bansaw so we can put everything through the full butchery process and then we'll eat it.
And it'll blow your mind, man.
The first time I went hunting, too, was about a year and
and a half ago was with Matt Light and he's like, I'll pick you up at 4 a.m.
And I'm like, 4 a.m. I never been up that early in my life. But let me tell you, man,
it was like a calming experience to be up at that time and just, you know, searching for some deer
in the woods and just have it like where you can just hear crickets, cricketing all over
the place. So I appreciate that experience, man. That was the first time I saw your dog tech,
you know, get into action. It was his first time getting into action and my first time
getting into action as well. And it was a really cool experience.
you got to appreciate the love for the support
when he when he jumped on the back
of that deer I remember looking at you
and it's like I remember Rob's like
we could go save your dog and I'm like I'm not going anywhere near
that like I don't want anything to do with that
I just hope it goes down right
so the dog jumps on him when he's kind of like
and then gets him down wrestles him
the deer went one on what like
it got up I mean it was wounded a little bit
with a shot in its back leg but it was
one on what like they were face to face
and the deer went after attack I was like
though you're your dog about to be gone
tech made like a juke that you would make julia and i was like oh shit tech he got he got me
going he got like he got the chills in my body going i was like oh and then tech went around the
deer and then jumped on the deer's back and took down the deer and finished a job yeah that's
pretty cool it's honestly probably one of the grays as you know like watching an animal do what it's
designed to do like if you have a pointer and that dog goes locks up full point with a pheasant right
in front of it and you're just like that's amazing you know it's just cool
to watch your animal that hangs out with you and lives in your home and part of your family doing
what it does. And also, I appreciate it, Matt, like, what, with the hunting, all that, and people,
some people are against, you know, hunting, some are for hunting, but you use every part of the animal
as well, which is cool. I mean, that's what, yeah, I ate it. Uh, your dog had some liver, like,
some, like, real life liver right there, right from the deer. Liver king, baby. I was like,
dang, no wonder why tech is such a beast.
He eats mainly raw, so I save all the trimming, stuff that you would, I don't want to say throw away because even that stuff I would put out in the woods, you know, fertilizer to go back or for animals to eat, you know, utilize. But man, tech eats a lot of, but that's what dogs do, right? Like if you think about it, they don't typically go out in the woods and find kibble. No. You know, it's. Well, my dog, I have Australian Labradoodle and he's very cuddly. Yeah. He's scared of his shadow.
and um and he loves the rug on the way in he loves his favorite you know it's he's just in
sensitive is the word i was scared of my dog ralphi to be around your dog but then when i saw
the sense of control that you have of tech i wasn't worried anymore about ralphi being around
because you can control your dog like i'd never seen someone control their dog before like
you got like an it factor with right and ralphi's a second
and Ralphie's a stuff he was causing problems with tech i'm like i'm like ralphi like chill out like you
have no clue what tech can do and what i just saw tech do but like i'm like matt is it like okay
like ralphi's like kind of throwing shots because ralphi's a french ball dog he thinks he's bigger than
any dog out there whenever he meets a big dog i'm like is that like okay and he's the julian of dogs
exactly and light's like if i'm calm tech is calm you don't have anything to worry about it is amazing man
you think about like that connection with with your animals right and everybody everybody has it in
different degrees and i'm a big fan of like those dogs feed off your energy right so if i'm thinking
hey take it easy be calm the dog's going to you know sense what i'm sensing right i think it's
pretty cool i mean i've i've always admired the people who spend ridiculous amounts of time
with animals to get to know them even naturalists people that go out and just study deer in the woods
or turkey biologist or whatever, you know, when you have that connection and you've spent
that much time to earn the trust of something that's truly wild, it's pretty awesome of things
that you can learn.
I mean, that's what I actually enjoy the most about being an outdoorsman is that, I mean,
most of my time, all as I am, I'm no different than a birder.
I'm sitting or walking through the woods, just observing what naturally occurs.
Now, if I get an opportunity to harvest something and I only harvest things that I can eat, then cool.
that's great, you know, but that's not the, not the gist.
Can you harvest about the time you went hunting at Gillette Stadium?
Oh, yeah.
And is that true?
Did you really do that?
A lot of hunting, yeah.
Yeah, a matter of fact, I did go to Mr. Kraft early on, and I asked Robert, I said,
man, is it okay if I go back here, you know, there's a, there's a pond, and I was
kind of explaining the area, and he's like, you know, hey, look, I've never been back there,
but, you know, we never talked about this, have fun.
Yeah.
I'm like, really?
Like, you're going to just let me go back here.
And, man, I used to fish that.
There's that little pond behind the bubble.
And then it backs up to the Lawton's farm.
And, you know, it's just this cool area.
And it's right there.
Right.
And until, you know, Briggs got mad at me and tried to shut me down.
I mean, I was having a great time.
When Briggs got mad at you, like, what was that?
Like, did he flip out on you?
Did he give you a call?
Did he come up to a person?
Like, while you were hunting?
What's that story?
Like, because I got a story where,
Briggs flipped out on me before, and it was vicious.
He's intense.
Oh, it was intense.
Like, legit.
Well, we were on the road for those back-to-back West Coast trip games, and it was the first
leg of it, and that's when this girl had stolen some money from us, and I put, you know,
Briggs was like, hey, we got it, and then they messed it all up, not Briggs directly,
but I'm like telling Briggs they mess it up, but I think he took it as in you messed it up,
and then it was like full-on confrontation.
I remember, I remember Coach Belichick coming out because we were in a hotel, right?
Like, and we were in this one little area where most everybody's, you know, traveling through.
Common area.
And he's like, what the thing's going on here?
You know, like he's just disgusted with this yelling and stupidity.
And I remember looking at him.
I said, I'm going to whoop this dude, you know.
And he's like, get in the, you know, damn meeting room.
And ever since then, man, it was, it was.
And now we made up.
I gave him back his gargoy.
He stole a gargolo from his house
And put it in his locker
That he walked by every day
Briggs
Right in front of Briggs
Because we were filming a commercial with Russ Hochstein
And they were using his house
Because Mr. Kraft owned that house
Right on the back entrance
And yeah
I mean we had a lot of fun with Briggs
But the hunting behind the stadium
Was legendary
You know but to your point
I mean you know
Most people don't realize this
Like Foxborough is in a very rural area
comparatively
right like most of these stadiums you know like i guess buffalo would be somewhat like it out there
an orchard park green bay for sure um that's pretty that's that's it yeah i don't know that
there's many in the sticks right all right matt we know you can talk all day about hunting i want
to know about will what will you be hunting at jolette stadium this year or will you be or will you
be i can i can tell you one definitely one creature you'll be going after yeah i definitely
Defensive ends.
Yeah.
Linebackers.
We'll try to get him
to take me turkey hunting out there, though.
Probably can't have any weapons
on the grounds anymore because of Matt Light.
I think it's actually been posted.
Every time we went over
the rules and regulations every year
before training camp, it was
no weapons. And I believe
Coach Belichick would look at Matt Light
and say crossbows, bow, arrows, anything,
knives.
Braves, actually. That was like one of the first things
he told me whenever
like we're going through the pre-draft process is like you know if we end up getting you up there
you can't bring any of your guns or anything like that up here like they don't play about that
type of stuff up here and i'm like okay well it's that i don't bring guns onto the no he was just
talking about in massachusetts in general yeah no it's you don't want to cross state line stuff
well just call matt light if you need anything we got you but if you do if i do happen to
catch you on one of my cameras we're going to have a conversation but you're well you're the only one
who hasn't gone hunting with matt so you got to try it out me it's an experience and i'm telling you he's
the best of the best in the hunting world if if it's not in rhode island it's anywhere in the world
you know he has been hunting and and just dominated his craft so if you ever do just give matt
light a call and he'll show you a great time and unbelievable experience all right let's wrap this up
And let's get here, let's get on to what we came here for.
Mm-hmm.
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And we have a series of patent questions that we patented. We had our patent lawyers go after it.
And to determine quick hitters, really quick hitters, we'll ask both of you guys. You guys both answer.
And we will determine what kind of dude you guys are with these patent questions.
I'll start it off easy first. All right, Matt, one second. There it is.
Matt and Will, do you guys wear flip-flops in the shower?
Nope.
No.
No.
Athletes foot.
I've actually never had athletes' foot.
I bet you haven't either.
No.
We build up an immunity.
Never have athletes' foot.
Next question.
Who's the most famous person in your guys' phone?
For you, Matt, it can't be Tom Brady.
Yeah, could not be Tom.
Or Drew Brees.
most famous
how do you
how do you rate
how do you rate this
who's famous
I don't know
you tell us
it's whatever your
perception on famous
Matt these aren't
hard hitting questions
I'll tell you
I'll tell you with
a famous guy
I was just with
over the weekend
put on a hell of a show
of Mr. Aaron Lewis
Aaron Lewis
good man
well good man
can you explain
who that Indian Ranch
you know
stained you know
it's been a while
come on you've been there
you guys aren't too long
that
it's been a while
it's been
Speaking of him.
What about you, Will?
Out to you.
I'd probably say Todd Graves.
Oh.
Oh, the owner of Raising Keynes.
Oh, he's a big LSU fan, man.
That's a good one right there.
My girlfriend's always doing appearances for Todd Graves and Raising Keynes.
They just opened one up in the city of Boston about a year ago.
Right after the Celtics won the championship, they had a couple of the players.
Drew Holiday, I think he was working the drive-thru with Camille.
So, yeah, I heard he's a great dude, man.
Yeah, he is.
He's always a raising Keynes.
Big legs chicken fingers
Okay
Yeah
Yeah do you like chicken fingers
Which from the south
I think that's a
Hot dogs no
Do you know who Todd Graves is Matt
And I don't know what Raising Cains is
I do know what Raising Cain yeah
I think I've been there of Raising Cains man
Yeah
Hopefully he's an outdoorsman
Back to the questions guys
Leave it to us
Yeah
Matt
What was the song on your high school
Highlight Reel
If they had that in black and white
Thank you
It was an eight track
I appreciate you making that point, not vinyl, A-track, okay.
And I'm going to say, you know what?
ACD.
Come on now.
Oh, no.
Now, you spent some time in Ohio.
These guys are the greatest rap group from the great state of Ohio.
Bone thugs in harmony?
Thank you.
Did we just twin out right there?
Did we get weird?
Was that awesome?
Big bear.
That's a good one right now.
You know the only...
I like it.
The only lyrics you know of that song?
Yeah.
And I miss my Uncle Charles.
That's it.
Uncle Charles.
That's the only thing.
Uncle Charles.
Whatever that is.
I don't know.
I think that's what he's saying.
But outside of that.
You say the lyric and then Julian repeats it, acting like he knows the lyric too.
I miss my uncle Charles.
That's like we're on a concert.
Oh, he's two beats behind.
I used to wake up to see that damn freaking music video.
Okay.
Okay, Jules.
Will, what about you?
I think my first high school highlight, I think I think I
just had like an instrumental beat that huddle had like available like i didn't have a song
it was just like a little beat okay so not a pirate yeah doesn't pirate music yeah that that's good
it's good yeah i mean he goes by the law yeah he does goes by the law i would yeah i would have
fucking he's a good american citizen pirate era i don't even can you even steal music anymore yeah
clearly if it's just on in the background that's considered stealing music uh yeah
Got you.
Copyright infringement.
Rob, your question?
All right.
What star recruit were you?
Like, Matt, like, there's a system.
I know, like, you don't really pay attention.
Like, there's a two star.
Like, that's if you're, like, going to the Mac.
If you have one offer, you're a two-star recruit.
A three-star recruit has, like, you know, a couple offers.
Four-star, you're a pretty big baller.
Five-star.
You're the cream of the crop.
I would say I'm the star that doesn't have anything filled in.
Just one, and it's blank on the inside.
It's not a quarter star.
It's not a half-star.
half star. I'm not even three-quartered. So did you go to junior college for a
seven? No, no. It's usually a junior college recruit. I didn't. No, but thanks for
kind of putting that out there. I was recruited. I was recruited. Yeah, you're
zero star. I think I don't know. Yeah. And then you became a two and two stars. So do they
had stars in your era. They did. They did. But I was not one of them. Yeah. So,
zero star. Okay. Zero stars. No. So you're a grinder. If he was recruited, he was three or four
star.
it was no there was but it was just the era where it just started yeah and he was so under the radar
he's like the most famous under the radar guy you'll ever meet yeah mat light yeah non non qb
non skilled player non it goes on for a while but then and then me knows everybody yeah so
no one knows him it's like the border of a star with right paper in the middle so just paper yeah
yeah not that i'm not a star i mean i am i just i'm you're a
You're a five-star in my heart.
Thank you.
And then, Will, you?
I was a four-star.
Four-star.
Oh, four?
Big guy.
Oh.
It's got a good ring to it.
Dang, superstar.
How's a four-star?
There's a lot of pressure that comes with that, boy.
There's a lot of pressure that comes with that, man.
Yeah, there is.
There is.
Mix question.
All right.
You got it.
Can you cover your ears?
Please?
Matt, what's the square root of 144?
I'm going to go at 12.
Okay.
Will, what's the square root of 144?
12.
Yeah, you heard, he heard.
He heard.
He heard.
I feel like he did hear it.
He heard.
They're smart.
They're smart though.
Hot tub or cold tub?
I'm a contrast guy.
Give me a little bit of both.
Oh, both.
Yeah.
Like that.
Yeah.
You like three ways then, too.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of what is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hot and cold.
Yeah, yeah.
My hot tub guy.
Hot tub.
Before or after practice?
Before.
Before.
Warm him up.
He likes to warm.
Get those muscles going.
And you guys wrote these questions?
Yeah, we did.
Yeah, we're just trying to determine what type of dude you are.
This is a patent questionnaire.
No one else is allowed to ask you this stuff.
Okay.
All right.
What's the most you ever bench?
Like legit.
Not like you do a three times, which means you actually can do like weight down.
down and up one time.
Yeah.
That's what we're talking.
Technically, if you only did three, just add like 30 pounds to it then.
Like, don't try to use your words, max.
What was your max?
No, I know, but that's the problem I always had with it, though, because some guys would do
like 405 for three reps and they said that they could bench 440.
And that's not true.
I don't like that either.
I don't like that either.
I've never one rep max before in my life.
Don't do that now.
Yeah, we always do like.
Well, what was your three rep max?
We didn't.
We just did two.
I did like 385.
or two
385
So we'll say
400 then
I can calculate that
Like you said
I'm rain man
I know
385
Transfer that
You're like
You're like
You're kind of like
The
Well
Yeah you're just like
Rain Man
Thank you
How many
I don't know
Where you were trying to go
And then you brought it back
I didn't like it
I didn't like
Where I was going
With that
I didn't
Tell me on the side
I would like for you
To tell me
How much we benched
For the
My max was 415
One rep
Both
Yeah
415
And that's probably one of my shoulders are junk.
Excuses.
Forfeited, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that not, you don't like that?
Hmm.
Is that kind of weak?
You're judging.
I mean, I know just a lot of stronger alignment.
That takes me how to do cash around with that.
Like Sebastian Palmer was probably benching 550 pounds.
He's German.
What does that mean?
What do you mean?
What's it mean?
You're drinking beer.
You're German.
Germans drink beer.
You're drinking a beer.
And by the way, I am German, but I didn't grow up in
Germany like he did you know I love about Sebastian a little sidebar I mean he could never
make a decision right like hey Sebastian we're gonna come over place he's still trying to make a decision
right now but I don't know if I might be able to come over there today but I mean you know if
we get a little bit of the time I'll try to stop over there and see you guys maybe later on I don't
know yet I have to talk to Lindsay it's like all as I said was like we're going to be getting
he can't make a decision I think it's a German thing German like Germans just can't make
decisions you can't make the German that's what I got from that question
He's German.
Who was your favorite superhero growing up?
He-Man.
He-man.
Yep.
What's that with the...
Come on.
Was it?
What do you mean?
What was it?
That was like 1979, bro.
He had a tiger.
Are you serious right now?
He-man.
Oh, I don't even know who he-man is, but...
I remember.
It was like one of the old cartoons my brother used to watch.
He was like 48.
Here we go.
Will, what about you?
Let's have a regular Marvel guy or something.
Come on.
All right, so I'm going to be honest, not really big into superheroes.
I've honestly, I don't think I've ever watched a Marvel movie.
Ask him about wrestling, though, because he's from down south.
But I will say I'm going to go with Superman only because the underwear that I wear under my game day pants since sophomore year of high school every game are Superman PSD underwear.
That's what they call those.
They are in a Ziploc bag until game day.
So I'm going to go to Superman.
Can we unpack this just for a minute?
So you're the large-scale Superman.
Wait, wait, so you wear the same underwear?
I've worn the same pair of underwear under my pants since sophomore year of high school.
You haven't gotten bigger?
There's barely anything left.
So it's like a good luck thing?
Yes, I'm superstitious.
What happens when it rips?
ladies they are ripped there's no bottom like they rip totally like then you go jock over
you then i'm just over your no i wear like some compressions over it but they have to be on okay
they're gonna show them back it's just like those and the whole bottom is gone before long all
that's going to be is the red band at the top and i'm still gonna wear it could be a good look
could be a good look all right all right we got you wash them you wash them yes i was oh well you
talk about the ziplock bag and i thought maybe it was like that was a part of
They can't get touched.
They can't get touched by anyone else.
But the equipment guys, that wash them.
No, I take them home.
You take them every day, even in practice.
No, I don't wear them at practice.
Only in games.
What happens, like, truly, if, like, someone loses them or something or they truly, like, just can't be worn anymore.
What are you going to do after that?
If somebody else lost them, I would flash out.
Flash out.
That's a super, that's a super human term.
Yeah.
Is that a Superman term?
So Superman and He-Man.
All right.
Superman.
We got a couple more.
One more each.
All right.
The biggest purchase you made with your first NFL check.
My first purchase was a Matthews bow.
I never had enough money to get one of those.
And my second purchase right after that was a 1999 Cadillac escalade, which I still have.
I was going to drive it here today.
I asked, what was your first purchase?
It was a bo.
Not your first and second, Matthew.
Well, but I mean, they kind of went one.
I mean, one's not that sexy.
All right, fine, fine.
Depending on who you ask.
Yeah.
That's good point.
It's good point.
I think my first big perch, I would say I got a house.
Oh, there we go.
Was this in college or was this in the pro?
No, this was in the pros.
Okay, pro.
NFL Chuck.
Not, not.
Yeah, wait a minute.
Are we talking to NIL money?
Are we talking?
That's why I asked.
Did you take a pay cut being a fourth pick overall in the NFL draft?
Not yet, but it will get there.
It will get there.
All right.
I heard about those LSU boosters.
I might go back to college.
And then for the last.
Matt doesn't invite me over for dinner anymore, so I got to buy my own food.
Last question.
Speaking of food, how do you eat your steak, both of you?
Medium rare.
Yeah, medium rare.
utensils
yeah yeah
what if it's a rib eye
there's bone
and there's still
some meat on there
if I can grab bone
I'm grabbing bone
I'm not a huge ribbi guy
who do you
kind of dogs
in that ribbons
pattern
I just like
what's our cut
is you a filet guy
yeah
I like filet
lean guy
yeah
keeps it lean
likes it lean
all right
let us let us have
a
oh all right
one more question
last one
because we're going to ask a question why it's basically why we're all here because the game brought us here
what does football mean to you uh i think discipline i think you know i probably would have been
one of those kids that just never really achieved what i could have in life if i didn't have
that discipline and look i come from a great house i mean my parents are amazing they tried really
hard but i was like always determined to do it the wrong way and really hard and
blow things up and create problems. And I think football, to me, was, you know, the fact that I knew,
I knew the coaches expected something out of me, and they reinforced that I was capable.
And so there was confidence that came with that. And then there was the discipline to show up on time
and be a part of something and be a team player. And if you really look at it, I mean, people talk
about it, but they don't necessarily have the background in some cases, like people will draw
comparisons to team sports and how that reacts to the real world. And the real world, I mean,
half your battle is just being able to work alongside of somebody who's to your right and left
and actually, you know, have a shared common goal that you're going after. Football does that
in an amazing way. I mean, look at the number of guys that are in a locker room. So I think discipline's
a big deal and working with people, you know, is a big part of that.
That's a great answer.
That's a great answer, Matthew.
What about you, well?
I would honestly probably just piggyback off what he said.
Piggyback.
Like, I just think that football can teach you so much more for like the real world.
Like you learn real world stuff inside the locker room and the building.
I don't know, it's just like you have, obviously y'all have, but to the listeners,
you have to go through the locker room.
have the hard coach and do the stuff on a day-to-day basis to really learn and experience it,
but it just prepares you for life, I think.
Microcosm of life, what would we say?
Sure.
Microcosm.
How do you spell microcosm?
It teaches you to come together to work together and have one mission.
We're going to take our couple seconds to talk, and then we'll finally go over the five different dudes of which dude you've.
you guys are please excuse us man i know you're going to think this is a little weird but this is just
what we do yeah well you can't judge us you're too young yeah yeah i asked them i told this
series and a stud no quick hitting but whatever they're doing over there at no point is it
rooted in science or common sense just so you know like everything that matter of fact they're
drawing a picture of a circle and they're going to get that wrong you know what i mean
I want a house with his NIL money.
No.
At no point, has anything that you said made a damn bit of sense.
What kind of dude is Matt Light?
Well, after our calculations and our patented questions, we have come to a conclusion.
It was very easy to come to the conclusion.
First off, we asked Matt
These are quick-hitting questions
And I think he gave us
A monologue for every single one
Which goes to his intellect
How smart he is
And his innovation
His innovation
He's the only one that could
What was that?
What was that?
I can't read my writing
That was Miccosm was him
Yeah, he's just a smart guy
He's very clutch
Very hands-on
Can figure out any situation
Very hands-on
And our series of guys
We have a very smart offense alignment
If you haven't looked
We have five different types of dudes
Stud, athletic, IQ
Well-rounded has been the guy
His whole life, freak
Someone who doesn't look like a human
Dogg someone who may not be loved
By everyone but everyone respects him
He's relentlessly motivated
He's physically mentally tough
The Wiz is someone who's intellect
Innovative
Clutch
The dude's dude who is the locker room
guy, the glue guy, the calm, cool, collect guy. For me, I'm going to have to go, uh, you know,
Matt has a whole lot of these things, which both you guys can, you can always argue. But for me,
what do you think about Matt? Mm-hmm. One, two, three, whiz. I think you're a whiz.
Uh, everything you've done is well thoughted out. The pranks. Uh, everything. The mind games.
The mind games. I mean, you're playing a mind game with me right now with you.
your face and how you're nodding your head and making your gouti go up and down so it's not it's not a
go to you and what a beard beard beard um full facial beard yeah i mean we just talked about that one
play earlier in the interview where you know you just got the guide for tom to hit you know you're
you have a picture for whiz like it's like a wizard you you're the picture like a genius
genius you're the face of it now you're the face of the witch you're the face of the
Is there been another whiz?
There's been plenty of whizzes.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Who are the whizzes?
Yeah.
Richard Sherman, Mike Brable, Bill Belichick, other whizzes.
Okay.
You're in the same category as Coach Belichick.
How does that feel?
When did you make the determination on Bill for the whiz?
Is this pre or post 24?
That's a loaded question.
That's a loaded question.
We will not go.
to that there will be no questions asked to us in the contestants let me just give us a little clue
we're basing it off of his football knowledge okay football all right yeah football knowledge yeah i'm
okay with that man i mean i just i feel like sometimes maybe you're whizzing in my core flakes while
you're doing this you know i mean like you ever you know that saying like they're they're they're
pissing your corn flakes as they're looking you in eye yeah like i didn't know if that was kind of
the whiz side of it but no whiz is like a wizard like a wizard like a wizard like a wizard like
Like someone who would probably put 40 hours into a rookie video when we had no hours to even think of that, but it finds a way to do it.
No, I appreciate it, man.
You know, that's you.
I feel good about that.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
All right.
Will, on three, we think you are one, two, three.
Pup stud.
Pup stud.
Okay, do it one more time.
One, two, three.
Pupstud.
Okay.
You're young.
You're not, we don't.
there's not enough film for us to know if you were the stud yet you still are going into the year
but you have those stud tendencies you're like a little puppy stud after this year you could probably
confirm that you were a full on stud but that's all going to determine how you play this first year
i mean fourth overall pick war number the whole seventh thing in lSU i mean you've been the guy
you came from the same city as whitworth you were supposed to be the guy now you're that guy
pup stud yeah and those sharp teeth
and and your naps are going to serve you well.
And just to give you context of other studs out there,
you're the first pup stud.
We never had a young bucket.
He never had a first rookie on the squad on the show.
Other studs out there are,
this is the elite category.
We got Howie Long,
La Damien Tomlinson, Justin Jefferson,
your good old pal,
Jaden Daniels, who you played with.
I mean, isn't he a stud?
You tell us, he's a stud.
Yeah, he's a stud.
year with him at LSU.
Fred Warner, Tony Gonzalez.
We also made Joe Burroughs stud.
But you're just, sorry, you're well-rounded.
You're protecting Drake's May's backside now.
So you've got to be, you know, studly in order to do that.
But you got to get out of the pub.
We got to get out of the pub.
We got to get out of the pub stuff.
We want you a full-grown stud.
We want you to come back and be just pumping your chest up.
And it sounds a lot better than wins.
No, you know what I mean?
Like, low-key is the best thing.
It's, yeah, I mean, whiz stud, whiz stud.
But like, we do want to hear your
Slater.
Your critique of our grading system.
What do you got for us?
How can we get better?
Do you think it was spot on?
I think, I think system is a bit of a stretch.
What's wrong with the system?
I like a collaborative approach to when you're trying to solve a problem or a riddle,
or you're trying to come up with something that's legendary or, you know, new and you're
introducing it to people.
And I think there's a bit of an education that comes with it.
I mean, that's what these questions give these people.
And they do.
They do.
No, in the process was, was interesting.
And, and, uh, I guess I just appreciate being the whiz kid, you know?
It's tough, man.
It's fucking hard.
You guys are everything, but we have narrow it down to one, okay?
It's not, it's not, it's not the rules we gave.
I was talking, we police them.
It is tough.
We know you're a dude's dude.
Everyone in the locker room loves you.
You know your stud, your dog, and everything.
He has a couple guys.
So those couple guys kind of axed you from the dude's dude.
But you literally made one of your best friends think that he had a disease.
Yep.
for four years.
That's why you're not a dude's dude.
You made your friend think he had an actual disease for like three years.
You stole my shoes one time.
Remember we went out on the Hooters boat with the Hooters owner with Wes Walker?
And you stole my shoes when I was walking out.
I did remember that.
And I was looking around for 20 minutes for the shoes.
That's not,
yeah,
that was cruel.
Yeah.
I remember when I took Spikes,
Spikes had a,
uh,
a handicapped sticker that he was putting like a,
like the actual physical sign on the rearview mirror.
And he was parking.
at places around Gillette Stadium.
Like, when he got out,
first of all, I tell people,
I don't know any pimps.
I've never been around a pimp.
But I promise you,
Spikes was his clothes.
Do you remember the long fur coats
that he would wear?
And he would have random girls
like just accompanying him
to like the most inappropriate places.
And I'm thinking to myself,
they have to be working, right?
Like, by the way, I'm not judging them.
It's not because of the way they looked.
It's just they were with him
and he's wearing a full-length fur coat.
And he would say shit, like,
I shouldn't say that, but he'd be like,
well, we get over here in different ways, right?
And I saw powder in his hand.
I'm just saying, there's a lot of things that pointed to him.
It was just some sugar.
Yeah, a little sugar.
Apparently, but I remember stealing his vehicle and parking it behind the bubble.
And I remember, like, when he came back in, like the next day, he comes back in.
And he's like, hey, man, you take my car?
And I'm like, no, why would I take your car?
And he's like, oh, because my car is missing.
And I'm like, I have no idea.
it was like day seven and he still hadn't found his car yet like it wasn't that hard to find
didn't care didn't really care man and i still have that parking pass because i just want to teach him
you know like like hey man we can't be going around using a uh handicapped sign to park with
that is a wizard way of thinking of teaching someone a lesson thank you you know and that was the chillest
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Will, Matt, thank you guys so much for coming on.
This is our first time having two guests on our episode,
our podcast at once.
And it's been a really special treat because we got to play with you, Matt.
You were a founding father of this, you know, dynasty that everyone talks about.
And Will, you're going to be going into the new generation of where this could go.
2.0.
And, you know, no one's more important than the hogs up front.
We all know that.
The game goes as far as the lines allow them.
And we appreciate you guys coming on.
Everyone go check out the Matt Light Foundation.
He's got the shootout.
What date?
September 9th, baby.
Tuesday.
September 9th, Tuesday.
That's coming up.
Coming up fast.
Will, what are we doing?
Anything to plug?
September 7th, Raiders.
Yeah, baby
He got good one-liners
Are we on the road for the opener?
No, it's the first
I know, we're at home
We're at home
We're at the stadium
That's the only thing I got on
The legend
Mm-hmm
I guarantee you that's going to be
One hell of a vibe
I mean the feverish
Kind of anticipation
Of this one is
Pretty interesting
I was telling him earlier
Before you were 55 minutes late
I haven't seen the excitement
Like this in probably five
Five six years
that the city the community the region which is like eight states if you haven't learned that from
the original colonies of new england all that what is it can you get some quick real quick what is
it you want to know the numbers yeah how many we got well we have main new hampshire
Connecticut Massachusetts we have Vermont Rhode Island and Rhode Island but it's really
half of Connecticut because those are you know what I mean half from like Connecticut doesn't
come from a football perspective yeah yeah true but the original
Colonies now.
Yeah, I think that's why he's a whiz.
Even those history.
See, this fucking guy.
Oh my gosh, man.
Thank you guys for coming on.
Good to be here, baby.
Appreciate you.
Love it.
That's been another episode of dudes on dudes.
Thanks again to Duncan and thank you again to Will Campbell and Matt Light,
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