Games with Names - "Dynasty 2.0" with Rob Gronkowski | Super Bowl XLIX: Patriots vs. Seahawks

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

Rob Gronkowski is back in studio talking about one of the greatest Super Bowls of all time! Jules and Gronk are breaking down their first championship victory: Super Bowl XLIX New England Patriots versus the Seattle Seahawks. Roberto joins us on the couch (3:10). We go back to February 2015 (16:50). We look at the Pats and Hawks rosters (34:48). We dive into the game (54:46). We score it (1:48:33). Gronk sticks around to help us answer fan questions from the GWN hotline (1:52:54). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We had a roster, dude. This was a special group. It was our first. Everyone thought the Patriots dynasty was over. They thought Tom Brady was done. The Legion of Boom. This was a generational great defense. Yes, they were dogs. And Kirst made that weird back catch.

I'm not gonna lie, at this point I'm sitting here like, this sucks man. How much time are we gonna get the ball? Are we gonna go back out on the field? What type of plays are we gonna run? That was so crazy. Are they gonna score right away? And Malcolm Butler. Man, this is bringing back some freaking great memories, bro.

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University of Phoenix Stadium, Glendale, Arizona. The Seahawks are down 28-24 to the New England Patriots. With 26 seconds left in the ball on the one-yard line, Russell Wilson drops back. This is Super Bowl XLIX. Wow. It sounds like we should be on the mic. Welcome to Games with Names presented by Winbet. And today, fellas and ladies, per request, we brought in the four-time Super Bowl champ,

the five-time Pro Bowler. He needs no introduction. Well, then why did you say five-time Pro Bowler and four-time Super Bowl champ? Because I needed to build up some... I don't know why. We got Roberto Gronkowski on here. That's what I'm talking about, baby. We got Roberto Yosoy Biesta Gronkowski

here in the studio. And we are going to go back. Since last game we did, there was a little weirdness between everything. We're going to go back and look at another one. Another unbelievable game. Last game we did was there was a little weirdness between everything. We're going to go back and look at another one, another unbelievable game. One of our favorite games. You know, it's kind of like the game that, you know,

you may have lost your virginity to, you know. We're going back to Super Bowl XLIX. Patriots versus the Seattle Seahawks defending Super Bowl champs in Super Bowl XLIX, Patriots versus the Seattle Seahawks defending Super Bowl champs in Super Bowl XLIX, our first Super Bowl victory. I would say it was like we lost our virginity with this game and liked it because we lost our virginity when we went to the Super Bowl in 2012 versus the Colts. I mean, not versus the Colts. It was in Indianapolis versus the Giants, but we lost.

So it was kind of like we didn't really like losing our virginity. Like we were born again. We were born again. We were born again. No, we lost our virginity again, and we really, really liked it. And then we just became dogs, and we just wanted more after. We wanted a lot more. That's a great way to think about it because we did

go to the super bowl in 11 when grunk had an artificial ankle attached to his body couldn't walk and we still should have won that game but um we're here to talk about super 49 this this was a crazy game why this game grunk why should we go over this game to you what is your why because it was one of the greatest Super Bowls in history that's why it was our first time we won a Super Bowl as well together it was my first Super Bowl I've won it was your first Super Bowl that you won and it was one of the best games I've ever been a part of it wasn't just a great Super Bowl game it was a great football game as well. Everyone contributed.

It was a team win overall. Everyone did their part to win the game from defense to offense to special teams and just the atmosphere as well. And what was special about it is that it was in the state of Arizona, and I went to the University of Arizona. So it was kind of like a home game for me as well being in Phoenix where the Cardinals play and I went to school right down the road like an hour and a half in Tucson so overall Super Bowl 49 was fantastic we entered the winning of a Super Bowl club yeah that club the last thing we did we we tossed the club the game we did we

was throwing people out of the club now we're entering the club and it's a super bowl club and uh just overall man we played the seattle seahawks as well they were uh they were the champions the year before so we stopped them from being back-to-back champions uh which i'm glad we we did that and just overall man it was awesome man it was a fun super bowl it really was and it was a fun year as well yeah it was like when we were in the prime of our playing days like prime off the field prime on the field like just everything overall we needed this win and we got it we knew we needed it for our sake of living for our sake of being awesome we knew we needed to win a super bowl and that's why we won

it i was just sick and tired of hearing about the goddamn old patriots that's why i say i mean there's only so many times we could watch troy brown stripping the guy in san diego and teddy bruski housing an interception doing the snow like we had to watch that all the time. Is this the year you had that 69-yard catch for San Diego? Or was that the year after? It was this year. I think it was 75. It was 75 yards? I think it was 75.

I swear it was a 69-yard touchdown for San Diego. Let me do some digging. I don't think it was 69, but I do remember in the huddle you talking about. Was it this year, right? I think it was this year. It was in San Diego when we stayed out there. Yeah, when we stayed out there. It was one of the best years, man.

And it was also the year where everyone thought the Patriots dynasty was over. They thought Tom Brady was done playing. We absolutely got blown out versus the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday Night Football. Teeth kicked in. In Kansas City. What else? What? we lost like what like 33 to like 10 or something 41 14 41 14 but you never gave up yeah we never gave up according to coach belichick in the do your job documentary we lost who else did we lose to already because we were were 2-2 at the time. We lost to someone else. Dolphins to start the year. Yeah, the Dolphins to start the year.

In Miami. Eat some fucking calories, Ted. It's hot. So hot, that game. I was actually coming back off of a knee injury as well. A blown out ACL, MCL. Was it my forearm as well? I was coming off of a forearm injury what else a back injury

and i was comeback player of the year this year as well and i absolutely sucked to the first four games as well no i it you didn't suck oh yeah you're right i didn't suck i was just you know getting introduced to the game of football again i was only playing like 20 25 plays you know you have major surgery you had we can't just throw you in the fire and have you run 85 plays week one off of acl arm infection fucking he was concussed on the same play i mean jesus christ gronk settle down i know i know you gotta let the you gotta let the old glidesdale get going you know us though we want to be full speed right out of the gate the first time we hit the field we want to be running 100 percent we want to be rerunning full speed every time i remember when i came back from my acl you're cleared to go and you can hit your top speed when you're trying,

like, that one time, but, like, it's the endurance. You don't have the legs yet because you're not used to hitting. You do all the drills. You do all the cone work. You do all the strengthening to all your muscles, but it's so much different when you compete against another guy because the intensity intensifies by like 15 to 20 percent just because you know adrenaline competition another man against you so like your body hasn't felt that stress for a long period of time and it needs the load in order to feel it

again and then it turns on after like three four or five weeks then you know you get better and better as it goes yeah you said that right you really can't replicate a game rep or or like a rep going versus someone else one-on-one or blocking someone blocking the defensive end you can't replicate that until you actually go out there and do it in a game so that's what makes it so tough coming back from an injury as well, man. Especially just sitting out for so long, just watching, you know, and then you just want to go full speed, but you're just not used to it. Psychologically. And then it's confidence also in it.

You got to gain confidence through each experience that you do in the practice field, in the rehab circuit, or all that. And you get all that confidence, but you haven't got that confidence against another human yet so you you hit that rep for the first time and you're you may have been a little hesitant to it but then you're like oh i'm all right and then after that you keep doing that and compounding that you're like oh i'm me again good. Let's go. And that's when you want to know when that all clicked in? When we moved on to Cincinnati.

On to Cincinnati. That was the season two. To Cincinnati. On to Cincinnati. Let's get into some other stuff real quick before we jump into the game. One sec, Jules. Before? Yeah.

Qualcomm Stadium, week 14. Patriots, Chargers, 23-14, 69 i told you i told you 69 yards i told you you know i won't forget that math magician you know i won't forget that i'm a math magician especially with that number but i i didn't think it was that perfect because didn't we talk about it in the huddle before? We talked about it in the huddle. I said, Jules, 69 yards. We got to go. And then somehow that play, you went for a 69-yard touchdown.

Eight catches, 141 yards, one tutty of 69 yards. Gronk, eight catches, 87 yards. Number 87. And one touchdown. And a tutty. Simulation. Yeah, baby. Robby always getting touchdowns always getting rob have you ever had

a 69 yard touchdown no i never have man but julian did it for me i'm living through you brother that's called wingman through you yeah that's called the wingman right there that's my bounty wingman bounty jules jules my bounty wingman you can't have 69 yard touchdowns without your wingman, and you can't have a wingman without Bowney. I had to clean up his mess after he scored that touchdown for 69 yards. Thank you to Bowney. It was a quicker picker-upper. So wrapping up another great year, how was our year at Fox this year, you think? I mean, our year at Fox this year you think i mean our year

at fox was great man it was kind of like my first time i was really full-time i know i wasn't necessarily full-time i i went on about on air about 12 times this year you were there full-time i just have to make that travel cross-country so it's tough to do it every single week but i felt way more comfortable this year and it was great to have you a familiar face that i've been playing football with for you know my whole career basically and then to see you there man we hit it off week one and uh it was just a fun year man and uh just talking football analyzing football it's just what we do we're breaking down games breaking down the games at halftime post game before the game breaking down the season what's going on it's just a lot of fun and what's cool is we got such great people around us as well michael strahan terry

bradshaw howie long uh you're with peter schrager mike vic charles jimmy johnson terry bad shot you name them all man just everyone thompson everyone man just everyone at fox man there's kurt there's such great people yeah i can't forget kurt manaf great people. Yeah, I can't forget. Kurt Manefe, Jay Glazer. You can't forget anyone because everyone is there for each other. It feels like a home. It feels like a family. Yes, it's a family, man. It does have that football locker room vibe.

You know, and it's really cool to get to, like, I mean, those guys are, they've been doing this for a long time. And, you know, they're certainly at the top of the list when you talk about this profession, all of them. And to be able to get in, and I watch the games with you guys during the 1 o'clocks and see how they prepare and see how they interact. It's been such a learning experience, and I've learned so much from you know you and the other guys because you know you've been on tv for what four years three years now this is my third year of the

first year when i first retired right after new england i came on i did about four shows yeah and then my second year which was last year i did about seven shows including the playoffs and then this year 12 shows and then i'm going to do the playoffs as well man so it's just it's just all about the experience as well it's about getting the reps that's what you love about the game of football and playing a sport your whole life is you can take what you learned you can take how you can get to that level and then bring it to the next field of your life and uh you know in order to be good at football you got to do the reps you got to compound the reps like you said you got to work hard you got to study you got to hit the weight room and it's kind of like the same same thing transitioning to being an analyst you got to study what's going on you got to know the games

you got to know the players you got to know what you're talking about you got to rep it on tv as well you got to be able to produce what you're saying on live tv and it's always fourth and goal every time you're talking because it's live the red lights on yes when that red light, and it's always fourth and goal every time you're talking because it's live. The red light's on. Yes. When that red light's on, it's no F-bombs, no S-bombs, and you better have your points all in set. Unless if you're Terry Bradshaw, you can say whatever you want.

Say whatever you want. So we kind of rekindled the team this year, our little locker room environment. What do you think it's gonna be like next year when old tb12 rolls up into the fox studios or wherever he is whatever job he's doing what do you think it's gonna be like with tom i mean if he doesn't get cold feet i mean old yeah tom brady yeah i can see that happening. He got cold feet already. He took off this year. We jumped right into it, Jules. But we're just analysts and we're just breaking down

a game. He's commentating. That's all different. I would have took off two years if I was him. Yeah, but I can't wait for Tom to get here, man. It's going to be fun. Get the crew back together, man. It's going to be a lot of fun and he's going to do an absolute good job. And obviously, we learned so much football from him.

Oh, my God. That's what people don't realize. Everyone sees Romo can call out plays and stuff. Tom was doing that when he was playing. He was doing that when he was playing. It'll be fun to see him articulate the game in a way that he sees it because he's the greatest to see it on the field yes that's the truth i would say i'll contribute to about six of my touchdowns where he changed the play

on the spot because he knew what the defense was going to do and right on the spot within five seconds he changed that play let me know let the line know let you guys know sometimes didn't even let you guys know just let you run your route because it was just him and i yeah doing our thing and i would say he contributed to about six of my touchdowns in my career of just kaboom just right on the spot just knowing the knowledge of the game well i would say he contributed to like nine of my touchdowns yeah if it was six years wow so and it was nine of mine we might as well just get the damn roll of bounty paper towels right now clean up this mess it'll be fun to have let's uh let's segue over to old february 1 2015 let's go back in time of the date of the super Bowl Sunday and go over some American pop culture.

The number one movie at the time was American Sniper with Bradley Cooper. I saw it. I saw it too. I didn't like, those kind of movies depressed me a little. I like them, man. I like all war movies.

I like action movies. I thought it was a great movie. I felt bad for my guy. Bradley Cooper? Yeah, he got killed at the end. Yeah, he did. That's a real story. That's true, man.

That is true. I've never seen it. You've never seen it? I never saw it either. It's a great movie, man. I mean, this is 2015. If I'm spoiling something from 2015, we've got to move on. Kyler still hasn't seen the end of Breaking Bad.

I wish it wasn't a true story. I just love the action. I love action movies. He was a stud. Just the skill level that he had in the movie was just ridiculous to be able to snipe that far away it's just it's kind of like tom brady throwing a 69 yard pass right on the money like 25 times in a row and never missing or 69 times with with the way out 69 times in a row with the wind factor playing it playing in in part of it as well yeah and the wind factor could be 69 degrees with a 69 mile per hour wind that's a lot of wind that's a that's a that's a

tropical storm wow yes and with with a tsunami coming as well a wet wet wet tsunami coming a big tidal wave a johnny tsunami yeah johnny tsunami great movie growing up disney channel right disney channel it was it was let's get richter dude um number one song was uptown funk by mark ronson featuring bruno mars uptown yeah i think bruno mars to this day is one of the best performers if not the best performer out there right now man he can dance he can sing he can get the crowd going and that's what i love yeah i agree i mean i've never seen him live have you seen him live i seen him live twice actually and and a little story is i was there right before he made a big time and it was like right before i made a big time as well i was a rookie i was drafted i went to atlantic city i was 21 years old and he was performing as well he i think they got

him for like five thousand dollars at the time yeah he had that one big hit song and i just watched him perform and i was like man this guy is gonna be big time it was legit just watching him was legit and then what little did i know like within the next two years man he's one of the biggest performers and i gotta to tip my hat to him. He was an icon. He could dance. He could sing. He had cool little swag with his little hat.

5'5", putting on for the Short Kings. We like it. Hey, when you're a guy that you don't even talk about his height who's 5'5", that means you're transcending things. That means you're bigger than what you think. Around this time, Netflix and chill became a thing they reuse that one on a text uh not not at that time i do netflix and chill now but when we were uh in 2015 we weren't doing netflix and chilling yeah we were out at practice going ham going ham after practice,

playing ping pong, playing cornhole. Yeah, I don't think we ever chilled in 2015. But then you know what Netflix and chill means. Yeah, you put on Netflix and you just lay back and you chill. But it's kind of a term for like you want to come over and have sex. Oh, well, then I guess you were using that. I guess you were using that term, Jules. Nah, I was more of a blockbuster guy.

I was more of a peacock guy. Post Malone drops White Iverson on SoundCloud February 4th. That was a fire. This was one of my favorite songs of his. It's like a where were you moment for me at least man i don't know i don't remember it like that but i just remember it was on like one of my it was a pre-game like just get in the zone like incredible 50 shades of gray hits the theaters never i i think i saw a little of it did you ever see it i've seen 50 shades of gray really kinky yeah yeah you got to be really into it who'd you see it i've seen 50 shades of gray really kinky yeah yeah you got to

be really into it who'd you see it with i'm not really sure would you sit back and netflix and chill by yourself and watch 50 shades of gray i'm not really sure who i saw it with i'm not lying i i literally think i went like just like a friend a buddy a buddy to 50 shades of gray yeah and no no we did not need bounty after you know where my mind was going we did not need bounty there was no mess actually there was a mess we were eating chicken wings and going absolutely ham in the theater just watching oh and lastly john stewart announces he's leaving The Daily Show at the end of the year.

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Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go back in to the sports world, 2014-2015, NFL champions, Patriots, MVP, Aaron Rodgers. He is MVP of the league. That guy can just whip that ball like I've never seen before. His release is the quickest release in the NFL. They had a great team, but unfortunately, they weren't the NFL champions.

No, they beat us that year, too. Remember? Right before the Chargers game. All right. We went straight from there to Green Bay to the Chargers and stayed in the week there. And here's a little story about the game. Five left i'm spread out wide to the left i think it was trailer left or trailer right or whatever where i put three by one i was by myself it was versus our first round pick their safety uh hot hot clinton dicks was it clinton just got drafted it was our first round i already

had a couple plays that game where I caught the ball, and I literally ran over like five guys. It took like their whole team to tackle me. And then I was pretty on fire, and Tom put the ball up in the air. Four, three, two, one. I went for the ball. We were down by like four. Put my hands out right off my fingertips, and I dropped it,

and we lost the game, Jules. I don't even remember that because that's never happened. No, I don't. Yeah, I knew how to make up for it. That's why we went on the road to San Diego and we dominated, and we both scored a touchdown. 69-yarder. You had that 69-yarder.

That's why everyone forgot about my drop. I don't even remember that. Yeah. I just remember we gave up a touchdown before halftime. I was so pissed about. What's it like playing at lambo i think lambo feels one of the best fields to ever play at man it's like a college atmosphere the whole entire stadium all the fans they it feels like they're on top of you man it's a football tradition as well and if you're in the nfl you got to at least play one game there in your career. It was. The grass is long, slow grass.

It feels old school. They still have the bleachers. You roll up into the town, and you stay at this little hotel that you used to stay in at Marriott's or whatever. Big little hotels in the city. You're at a mom and pop's like bed and breakfast and you know it was there's like nothing around you know it was it was a pretty cool environment it definitely felt like you were in a you know college town and the weather it's always football weather as well it was cold yeah always football weather there it was chili's the college football champions were the ohio state

university and marcus mariotta was the heisman trophy winner wow shout out to the pac-12 pac-12 you you sad about the pac-12 i am sad about the pac-12 i wasn't a pac-12 guy or pac-10 guy i dreamed about being in the pac-10 i'm a a Mac guy. Mac is pretty cool, though, man. I like the Mac. I grew up in Buffalo, and UB's in the Mac. I was always a Mac guy. I know. I was a Mac guy. I was a Pac-10 guy.

I was on the West Coast. We kind of did a flip-flop. Yeah. We did a flip-flop. And that's why we're wingman now. Winging and dinging. Winging and dinging. We've been wingman since our high school days and didn't even know it. No. That's winging at Winging. We've been wingman since like our high school days and didn't even know it.

No. That's just, that's winging at first sight. The dunking the ball through the goalpost became a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. We'll blame that on Jimmy Graham. He was dunking after every touchdown, almost breaking the goalpost, bringing it down. He really did. A couple times he brought that joker down. He's bringing the house.

I liked it. Yeah, I liked it too. I don't even know why they actually implemented that rule. It didn't really make sense. I thought it was a legit celebration. You're showing off your athletic skills, dunking the football over the goalpost, but I would blame it on Jimmy Graham

for just scoring so many touchdowns and dunking it every single time. You ever dunk in the goalpost? Never have before. In practice, I think I've seen you. In practice, I did it once or twice, but in a game, I'd never done it before. Yeah, I always tried to do it.

I always did it a little here in practice. I should have got on my knees, and then you'd jump off my back and dunked it. I can get up there. You can't get up there. You can't get up there. I get up there easy. I'm reading here, speaking of Jimmy Graham,

they were saying in a 2013 game, he dunked it so hard, it delayed the game for like 20 minutes. That's probably why they implemented the rule. Gotta be. Knocked the goal post off balance. The next offseason, it was banned. Can't stay on schedule if you don't start on time. And when you have a 20-minute break, those commercials.

And shout out to Jimmy Graham coming back to football age 36, scoring some touchdowns this year, man. Pretty impressive. It is. Pretty impressive. What would happen if Shaq scored a touchdown in the NFL and dunked it on a goal post? There'd be no more field goals that game.

That's when double J's and the field crew are coming out, putting a new damn field goal post up. And you know Shaq's not windmilling that game. That's when double J's and the field crew are coming out, putting a new damn field goal post up. And you know Shaq's not windmilling that thing. He's going with two hands. Two hand slam. Old Shaq daddy bringing it down. I would love to see that. Paul Pierce signed with the Washington Wizards.

It was a little weird. Weird. That was weird for us. That is weird. It's really weird. You ever hang out with Paul? I never have. I know you have i think the whole town knows i did it sounds like a good time

from what i've read can't even do a goddamn starsky hood slide anymore can't even do a stars skiing hutch slide these days bury a banner you want to know something i want to go on facetime live with paul pierce or what was it instagram live whatever it looked like a good time that looked like a good time as well anything with paul pierce seems like a good time i never met the guy before paul what the f why have i ever not met paul pierce it was crazy i saw him i saw him like two weeks ago at the airport on his birthday he was going on a little vacation for his birthday i was going to boston and i i was like that looks like paul pierce we're both sitting in like the waiting area it's like nah that dude looks too young because he looked good he looked he was all dimed out and stuff i'm like nah that ain't paul

that dude looks way too young so i text paul pierce i'm like yo paul you at the airport and then i didn't get a response because i have a new number i go it's edelman. And I still didn't get a response. And then one of his homies looks over, and I look over at him. We lock eyes. And he goes, I go, is that Paul? And he goes, yeah, it's Pierce. Come on, Drew. So I walk over. I'm like, yo, bro, I didn't even know that.

We just kind of dabbed that. We talked about the whole thing. But I saw him recently. He was crazy. I love him. I love him. Never met him, but I love him. He's a dog.

Let's go to our socials in 2015 at this time. RIP Stuart Scott. My prayers go out to his friends and family. He was a huge part of delivering sports. Cooler than the other side of the pill that was a sad loss i love this was that year man yeah man that was super sad man i loved watching sports center with stewart scott he was the absolute man just as a kid yeah going making then going just watching him all the way through my levels of progress through through my athletic

career as well stewart scott man you're well missed man we love you loved him man he made watching highlights so fun his analogies his metaphors his sayings i mean he's a pioneer he's a pioneer and just the way that he fought too man as well and no one even knew what he was going through and he was just still dominating the tv still as well just dominating selfless guy yes selfless guy thank you thank you stewart for everything you've done what's the most amount of the same episode of sports center you've watched in a row like on a sick day home yeah i don't know probably like four or five times i think three or four yeah yeah back in those days it was easy to go over and over again yeah he made sports center what it is today for real hasn't been the

same since espn should be paying his family to this day still seriously should they should baby robert grinkowski heard gronk party bus is rolling to arizona yeah shout out to bobby goose he drove that gronk party bus from boston massachusetts all the way to Phoenix, Arizona, man. Wow. I remember when you had that thing. Legendary. We used to go out on that. Yeah, we did used to go out on that thing.

The guy we built, we bought it. It was a church bus, actually. We got it out of New York City for like 14 grand. And then Bobby Goons, he's AKA Mr. All Purpose, stripped the whole inside of the bus. Oh, sorry. Sorry about that. I was just choking up because i missed the gronk party but i'm tearing right now that was a fun bus yeah it was a fun bus i mean great memories for sure and uh he teared it he teared out the whole inside redid the whole thing put

the benches in it the radio the sound speakers everything it was just bumping man it was uh it was a good time man that thing got its use for how come there was that um there was that was there a support pole yeah there was a support pole in the middle as well yeah yeah support pole it was so when you stood and then like load bearing load yeah just to make sure you didn't fall forward or anything yeah it's kind of like the train yeah like train like train you. Like train. You got to polish it so you can see it, right? Yes. It's like a guardrail, just so you can stay safe. See, you always got to stay safe.

What is this Q? I don't know. That was on your Twitter timeline when I was going deep. Typo. Typo. Got a little Xenia on? Maybe you had a question for someone. You just forgot the question, though.

This was the Xenia days, man. You were Xenia. Oh, I had a Xenia suit as well. Dang, look at you. You question for someone. You just forgot the question, though. This was the Zinnia days, man. You were Zinnia. Oh, I had a Zinnia suit as well. Dang, look at you. You look younger now. I swear, man. I just don't have facial hair. You look like 38 years old in that picture with that beard.

Look at that. Like professional. You look really professional as well. You look like a fucking assassin. Yeah, you do. You look like you should be in movies. I look like I should be on you know in movies i look like i should be hanging next to john wick ready to just take out some fucking bad guys you should have played the

part in american sniper instead of bradley cooper no bradley cooper no don't you don't talk like that about brad i know but i'm just saying that's how good you even though he's a philly fan we all do that at the same time how would you describe your social media habits in 2015 rob oh man that that's when i used social media like freely you know in 2015 i used to do like gronk isms when like when social media first came out i don't know exactly what the gronk isms were but i think one of them was like you can't lose your keys if you leave your keys in the car but you may lose your car yeah wise it's very wise because i never brought my keys inside the house and then i was like i can never lose them because i always lost them when i brought them brought the keys

inside the house yeah and then you have a key spot yeah and the key spot was inside the car that's a good key spot never can unless you live in los angeles and people just come take your car well i was in foxborough so no no no one no one touches safer there don't go near there's graceland and there's gronkland don't go by the gronklandkland. You ever get any amazing DMs from some celebrities at this time? In 2015? Any kind of celebrity. To tell you the truth, I don't even think I was on Instagram yet. I think I got on Instagram in like 2016 or 17 after the Super Bowl.

Yeah. And to tell you the truth, I still wish to this day i never got on instagram i know and i would never have to worry about it and be like i just never got on so that no one would ever ask me why like okay can you post it on instagram they'll be like oh gronk just don't have an instagram or yeah like you don't have to think about it then imagine that and then you just post it for me julian on your instagram that would be pretty cool let's get into the game jacks can you set the stage about this ferocious seattle seahawks team defending super ball champions that have the Legion of Boom.

You just did it for me, bro. Oh, my gosh. Wait, did we have Doral Rivas? This was the Super Bowl. No. Yeah, we did. Doral Rivas was on our team. And we had Browner.

Yeah, and Brandon Browner. He was part of the Legion of Boom, wasn't he? He was. He was like the original, but the Legion of Boom was still going even without Brandon Browner. He was part of the Legion of Boom, wasn't he? He was. He was like the original, but the Legion of Boom was still going even without Brandon Browner. It kind of got to that point where like then they just attributed it to the whole defense. So like it didn't really have that much meaning.

You know what I mean? Like everyone got to be there. The whole defense just became called the Legion of Boom. But it was truly led by Cam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, and Earl Thomas. Earl Thomas was a fucking torpedo back oh my gosh man he was a missile he was he used to come downhill full like he could he was fucking a torpedo he was fast here he wasn't you know he got older and he became more of an instinctive player when he was young and this time and he was he was like a 4-3 guy he was earl thomas put me out of the season he added my season

when we won the super bowl in uh versus atlanta that was the year i got hurt and then playing that super bowl it was because of earl thomas i was going up to see him i was looking at the ball and then boom he hit me full i was running full speed up the seam and he was running full speed at me he had no fear at all zero zero wasn't a big guy either no not a big guy but he was compact compact as shit yeah like low man wins yeah and he put me out for a season when he hit me i actually uh ruptured my lungs and then also he popped out my disc in my back and that's why i had to get back surgery that year because of him but uh ear Earl Thomas. Fucking Earl Thomas. He was a...

I mean, and Cam Chancellor was right there, too. Cam Chancellor. He was like an old school safety. Absolute freak. He was like 230. Guy was massive. I think he was like 240. He could have been.

And he was like 6'4". He was the biggest safety in the game by far, dude. And he was nice. Yeah, he was nice. He was like a gentleman when the game by far, dude. And he was nice. Yeah, he was nice. He was like a gentleman when he beat your ass. Yeah. I remember because, like, first drive, it was probably like the fifth or sixth run.

I had to go in and get the force. And I would always set the tempo for the day on those first, like, force blocks. You go in, you give helmet to helmet. You try to give him a little fucking, you know, clean them up a little. Let them know you're here for a kiss all day. I went in there to Cam Chancellor and did that, and I fucking got knocked back. And he didn't move. I just felt, you know when you hit a guy and they feel rooted?

Yeah. Or they don't move? I know. And I have, like, usually a little power where i can get into a guy i hit him and i knocked myself out a little i'm like oh my god and he goes a young fella it's gonna be a long day something like that you said something like that so the legion of boom was consisted of a tree trunk which was cam chancellor and then they had the the missile torpedo thomas or a torpedo and then they had the you know the thomas or a torpedo and then they had

the you know the fancy playmaker richard sherman sherman that's a good that's a good summation of those three and mitchell was good too he just we heard he got hurt after that pick that was lane or lane jeremy lane lane lane was pretty good what happened to him yeah what happened to him who hit him what happened to jeremy lane jules i don't know what happened to him? Yeah, what happened to him? Who hit him? What happened to Jeremy Lane, Jules? I don't know. What happened to him? He made an interception. I made a tackle. And then he got hurt?

He tore his ACL and broke his arm on the same play. Damn. Jesus. That sucks. That's like me tearing my ACL and MCL and then having a concussion. Damn, that's football for you, man. Football. A little more on this Legion of Boom.

Only lost one game by more than seven points when all three of those guys started. 81 games played together on one team. That's tied for second with Brian Dawkins, Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor on the Eagles. And then this trio also combined 14 Pro Bowls, six All-Pros between 11 and 17. So these guys were...

I remember when we went up there, and remember in 12, we had to go play them, and they came back and beat us? Yeah, we were up, I think, at halftime by a good amount, and then they came back. That's when the Richard Sherman name came out. And he went up right into Tom Brady's face. You like that?

What was it? You mad, bro. You mad, bro. You mad, bro. You mad, bro. That's when Richard Sherman became Richard Sherman. Yeah, that's when he... Because he did the... Clash 3B, all that. He was, bro. You mad, bro. You mad, bro. That's when Richard Sherman became Richard Sherman. Yeah. That's when he... Because he did the...

Crab three beef, all that. He was... Yeah. Richard, he used to get into it. We got into it a little bit in this game. He's great. I played with him my final year in Tampa, man. He's cool.

Great guy. Great guy. Love Richard. He's one of those guys you hate him when you're not on... He's not on your team, but you love him when he's on your team. Exactly. You're like, that's our asshole we love that guy yeah and uh before we get off the seahawks uh this was russell wilson's third year in the nfl uh threw for 3 475 yards 20 tds also ran for almost a thousand yards this was This was third year of us. He was cooking, coming off a Super Bowl win.

And the off. Eight rushing touchdowns. Eight rushing touchdowns. Nothing to scoff at there. But it was beast mode in the backfield. And then kind of a little bit of a no-name wide receiver core, if you will. No disrespect there. But all free agents.

Baldwin was good. Baldwin was good. Baldwin used to ball. He had a lot of production for a lot of years. And then, yeah, my bad. I'll put a little love on Baldwin there. Traded Percy Harvin in the middle of this season. That could have been a factor.

Yep. They needed that. But they had those guys that made big plays in the seams. Mitchell. Mitchell. Matthews. Matthews. He only came up.

Javon. Yeah, Curse. Jermaine Curse. Jermaine Curse was the long. Yeah, Luke Wilson, tight end. Yeah, they had dudes. They had a good team. They had a good overall team.

Well, Marshawn Lynch. They had fucking Marshawn Lynch, guys. Yeah, I mean, the defense gets all the love, but no. Good defense with a team that could run the ball. Defense led by D.C. Dan Campbell, or Dan Quinn, sorry. Jeez, I'm thinking MCDC. That's why we call it the Seattle six member. And then now every team runs it.

That cover six that they run that three deep. Hate that. I hate that. Hate that coverage. We run the stupid same play every time. The crosser, the under. And you know what I mean? And then every time I go deep, I'm covered because it's three deep every time.

Yeah. With the two corners in the safety. Ah, the worst coverage ever. I would just run up's three deep every time with the two corners and the safety. Ah, the worst coverage ever. I would just run up and down the field and never get a pass. You got to like pick it apart. It takes a lot of, cause they,

they were, they were so good at staying tight as a defense together. Everyone worked together. Everyone was on a string. So as soon as the ball snapped and they saw it was passed, this guy was flying here. He was flying there. And so they would get to their lane, their zones very good.

So one of the main coaching points of this game was it's going to take a lot. The running backs will get the ball a lot because they have a lot of coverage and they can get after you with four guys. So what we're going to have to do is we're going to have to have these long methodical drives. And once you get the ball, because they are so tight knitted on a string, you get vertical. You have to get vertical because they have, they pursue.

That's the Dan Quinn system, the Seattle six, that zone coverage, which is like a matched zone where it plays man on the outside, but it's still zony. And then once the ball is thrown, everyone converged the ball. Everyone rushed the ball right away. So that was the main thing. You get the ball, get up, field, go, because they're going to be right there.

You remember that? Yes, I do remember that. And then every once in a while, this is when we took advantage of them. And I don't know why they did it is when they went into cover one. They did a lot of cover one off of that, what you were talking about. And then that's when we made our big plays, especially the super bowl and that's when grunk scored his touchdown right before half i i'm sure we'll get into it but you know we had the formation indicator when you see the linebacker number 50 who was it uh who serving was it bobby wagner at the moment i

think that was over wagner yeah yeah it was over bobby wagner so it was wagner once you see wagner's all the way out with the tight end, I mean, that's your indicator. It's man coverage. Because if a corner's out there, then you know it's back to that Seattle 6. So, you know, that was at that time in the league. You had these formation indications that you would use before the play. And then we can't forget also about their D-line. D-line was fucking.

Led by Cliff Averill, Michael Bennett. Now, what about their linebacker core as well, man? Wagner. Yes. Malcolm Smith. Actually, I think my touchdown was over K.J. Wright. Yeah, it was K.J. Wright. Yeah, it was K.J. Wright.

It wasn't Bobby Wagner. I was wrong there. It was K.J. Wright, who was a heck of a linebacker at the moment, too. I think he was one of the best linebackers in the league. This was a generational great defense. Yes, they were dogs. And they were a dangerous offense that could run the ball down your fucking throat with Marshawn Lynch, who took everyone to tackle,

and then Russell would go back, make three, four people miss, throw it down the field, have those lollipop fucking long balls, and that was their formula. That was their formula. One play away from back-to-back super bowls one giant play yeah but i don't look at it like that you can say that about so many games so many games true should we get into these these pats let's get into pats the pats we were 12 and 4 i forget that the super bowl champs super bowl champs mad Super Bowl champs. Matty P leading the defense. Mickey D's OC.

Jimmy G's rookie year. James White's rookie year. Those guys. Man, that's crazy. Those are two head coaches. Crazy. Dayball on this staff. Another head coach.

Oh, that was when Trent Dilfer went off too about the Patriots' dynasty is over. Tom Brady's over. That's when we called Trent Dodo last time we were on games with names. That was the same year. He's probably coaching some quarterbacks right now. He's down there at UAB. Is he coaching? Yes.

He's the head coach of UAB? Trent Dodo? Yes. No way. Good for him. The guy loves football. He knows it. you think he can recruit as well as deon sanders no yeah let me go play for this game manager i'm gonna go play for trent dilford jackie that's how you really feel they're just not good anymore i'm coming i'm yeah i'm coming at throats bro trent dildo oh my god uh yeah this was the on the cincinnati season

this was a declared us dead and arrowhead season um get a little give a little shine to jamie collins i know we're we're always an offensive kind of pod here but jamie was so 116 tackles this season jamie collins was an absolute freak who didn't even have to do anything to be an absolute freak he would just show up and just make these insane plays that you'd be like your head would be turning you're like what the heck and then like he didn't need to do anything he was just an athletic freak already just off the field and on the field he didn't need a workout he didn't need to run sprints he just showed up to the football field and just made absolutely insane plays yeah and his come out game was in 2013 when he was drafted in 13 let double check. I know he was drafted in the second round.

Second round, maybe 12. From where, too? From Southern Miss. Southern Miss. Southern Miss. I think they didn't win a single game, his senior season. First rounder, right? No, second rounder.

He was a second rounder. But we drafted him. 2013, second round pick, 52. Yeah, 2013. And I remember, I was like, my whole holy shit moment with him is when he went and covered welker in that denver game where we beat him we came back and or did we come back and beat him i don't know he covered welker a few times i'm like this dude's way too long and big and to be able to cover west because west is an elite route runner you know what i mean elite so like to see that i was like oh my god this guy is a guy

yep we came back and beat him 34 31 yeah we're down 24 and what this was his second season first it was his first season we would have never won the super bowl without jamie collins no no what what a pick that was shout out to bill that's a great pick right there and high tower the year before high tower yeah and we gotta give some gotta give some love to uh the rest of that defense high tower revis browner flowers big vince yes big v big v was a beast in this game chandler beast we had chan jones what a great year he had too he had a bunch of sacks. Ninko. Allen Branch.

Allen Branch. How big is Allen Branch? He's massive, dude. He's like 360. So he's probably 360, right? And Allen is kind of like a quirky guy. Allen would come, and we have a walk-in from the player parking lot to the facility is probably like a 100 yard walk then you have like another 60

yard walk in the hallways this motherfucking allen would be coming around on electric skateboard this big ass 365 pound guy would come on electric skateboard he'd have his backpack on his earphones on like he's going to school and he'd be rolling 150 yards on this electric skateboard and he'd be going in the halls and people i remember bills like like alan like what the fuck are we doing here on his rocket power remember that i do remember that it was a sight to see it was so funny to watch it was six six 350 there listen to me i don't know how that skateboard didn't break i know it was crazy was crazy. Dude, what about Blunt? Garrett Blunt.

Shout out to Bolden, man. James Devlin. Man, Shane Vereen. James White. We had a roster, dude. Pat's a young James White. Yes. We had Stork.

Stork. Brian Stork. Oh, Stork. He played, like, what? Two seasons with the Patriots? Yeah. And that was, I think, two seasons of his career. Stork. Picked up Brandon LaFell in the offseason. Seabass. Yeah. Nate. Yeah. And that was, I think, two seasons of his career. Stork.

Picked up Brandon LaFell in the offseason. Seabass. Yeah. Nate. Yeah. Undrafted free agent quarterback. Man. We had a roster, bro.

Malcolm Butler. Oh, yeah. Malcolm. Malcolm. He made a couple plays. He was working out at Popeyes. Yeah. Is he really?

No, he was working at Popeyes. West Alabama. West Alabama. Man. Niko. Heck of a squad. Niko. Niko always made sneaky good plays when the team needed it yeah so kickers ryan allen's ryan allen the punter yeah gustowski polish power baby who man a tight end tim right too man we had a rostered bro i remember who man he was my so he was my dip guy He always had dip in the locker room.

And I remember in practice, Hooman got punched in the lip, and he had a fat, bloody lip. I'm like, oh, shit, who? He goes, why are you smiling? He goes, I got to cut my lip. I go, what are you talking about? He goes, as soon as I put my dip in, I'm going to get an extra buzz. I'm like, oh, shit.

Hooman was a man, dude. I love sharing the tight end room with him chungy it was a this was a this was a special group it was our first it's time for the bounty wingman question bring out the wings you can't have football without wings brother and you can't have wings without bounty we got that right baby you got that right all right this is a segment where we bring out a pair of wings or a bunch of wings all right where's the blue cheese brother where's the blue cheese are we out are we in well we're not in buffalo so ranch is fine outside of buffalo but bring it out ranch or blue cheese counts here in la but in buffalo you know it's blue cheese only, brother. You know that. In Buffalo.

Is that the deal? Blue cheese only. Is that the deal? You get shot if you ate ranch in Buffalo. Literally. What we got here? Buffalo wings? Bounty Wingman question is,

what do you think our best moment on the field together was? We've had a lot of great moments on the field, Jules. I mean, we've already talked about one of them. The 69-yard touchdown you had in San Diego, and I was in the huddle 10 seconds before saying, we need 69 yards to score a touchdown, and you scored 20 seconds later

on that play. That was a big moment, but I think another big moment, man, these paper towels are so awesome. I love paper towels. I think a great moment was the double pass. Oh, the double pass was legit, too, because that was this year as well, wasn't it?

Yeah, you were the lead blocker. You were the first guy I celebrated with. I just remember after I threw it, I thought I overthrew him, and it all happened super quick, and the next thing i remember is gronk like picks me up like a fucking little third grader good thing amandola is so fast as well you did overthrow him but i thought i just has speed of lightning oh my god yeah uh gronk picks me up like i'm baby from Dirty Dancing. It lifts me up, and I'm like, yeah. I think that was a great moment. That was a fun moment.

That was a great moment. That was one of our best moments. Or the hit. Or the block you laid out for me on the touchdown versus the Colts. That was a good moment. That was a great moment as well. When you cut back. That was good.

Those are some good wingman moments. There's no number one moment. We just have a lot of moments together. A lot of great memories. One of my favorite memories off the field as a wingman was when we were sitting on that golf cart still in Nantucket and the freaking thing broke and we fell on the ground. It was all over Barstool.

Do you know how many people sent in videos from that day, from Fugawi? I've got like 15 different Fagawi tapes that we'll have to run by you guys because we want to post them uh what after the last games with names yeah and then everyone's been texting me listening yeah i love it release the fagawi tapes i actually that was when i i was dancing to justin timberlake one of his songs what was his big popular song at that moment i got the feeling yeah i got the feeling. Yeah, I got the feeling. I think it was. And he tweeted back at me, like, nice dance moves, Gronk. And I was like, oh, I made it in life.

Justin Timberlake just retweeted me. I think we all remember that. We were all in the locker room. Yo, you see JT? Text girl. Yeah. And we were just freaking going ham. That was fun.

That's why I was good at football, because I was working on my footwork when we were in Nantucket. You said that last time we talked about that. Every time we went out. Because we danced, we had better footwork. Yeah. That's why no one could guard us. And that's the bounty wingman question.

All right. What do you remember about the game plan of the Super Bowl? You know, Jules, I can't really tell you, because I remember bragging to my friends the morning of the Super Bowl game, and I looked at my notes. I had two notes, two bullet points only. I couldn't even tell you what the two bullet points were. And I told my friends I'm going to have a great game. I think I know what they were.

You throw me the ball. I catch the ball. Throw me the ball. I'll catch the ball. I'll score. That's three points. Yeah, that's three. Well, one of the bullet points at both of those. Two of them in one. Perfect, perfect. the ball i'll catch the ball i'll score that's three points yeah that's three oh well one one

of the bullet points at both of those two of them perfect perfect is a two point for one point points and one bullet point but yeah i i wasn't really known for writing notes i was known for having great walkthroughs and studying the plays on the field so you were known for scoring touchdowns scoring touchdowns but we did have a great game plan. It worked. Seattle 6. I just remember we had that stupid crosser play that we ran a million times. Yes. Yes, we did run the crosser play.

One guy's got the cross. One guy's got the under. And you high-low the backer. You have to have speed to make his back go so we could get the under on the – Or it was running back. We ran the crosser so much in that one of the plays I actually ran into Richard Sherman. I think he was covering you, and we both crossed.

We basically went shoulder to shoulder on the cross, and then Richard Sherman was right behind you, and it was an accident. We just both ran into each other, and we both went flying to the ground. He looked at me like, shit, that hurt. Let's get the lead up to the game, Jackie. All right, the storylines going into this one.

These are the top seeds in each conference in FCA, FC, both number one seeds. Seattle was going for back-to-back. Meanwhile, the Pats hadn't won one in 10 years. So they were going for the first in 10 years. Brady doing 10 years between Super Bowls, still like insane. You'll never see that again. Paths the super bowl double pass game we beat baltimore then pounded indy meanwhile seattle took out the panthers and then in the nfc title game had to come back from a 16

point deficit chris matthews recovered that onside kick so yeah remember that when they beat aaron rogers the the league mvp oh my god i forgot that crazy they had to get an onside kick yep chris matthews the guy who will be uh talking about in this one he kind of uh came on the scene there with that little playoffs for him he was he was on fire and then uh as we talked about earlier this was a little rekindling of the 2012 beef with the Richard Sherman, Brady, you mad, all that stuff. And it was, it was Bill versus Pete. So coach versus successor. Pete was the last Patriots coach before Bill. Only the third time in NFL history that successor has met current coach in

the, in the Superbowl. Other two? Weeb Eubanks and don schula in super bowl three and then john gruden and callahan in super bowl 37 i believe it was raiders raiders bucks so a little piece of successor trivia for you there a lot of history yeah thank you jack i appreciate it man no problem brother um so yeah this and this was also the first postseason meeting between these two teams which is kind of obvious given nfca fc stuff all right who was the referee of the game i believe that was bill vina was it this was vinovich i believe who was the halftime show come on jack katie perry

lenny kravitz those are extra long halftimes, as I recall, right? Did you ever see any of the halftime shows? No, I never seen any. I don't even remember our halftime shows. No, I don't remember any of them. You didn't do a... A McPherson? A McPherson, yeah.

Kick Fierce, remember? The hunter two years ago, or in Miami. He was watching Snoop in there. Oh, yeah, on Cincinnati? Yeah. Could you imagine? That was nuts. What was he thinking?

What was he thinking? He's like, bro, I want to see snoop that i mean snoop was performing could you imagine someone leaving halftime of ours to watch the super bowl you wouldn't be playing the second half bill would put you right on the bench right on the bench yeah instant out it doesn't matter what type of first half you had i remember remember uh deep in the games with names triviavia Bank here, Michael Irvin said he did the same thing in their Super Bowl to go catch a glimpse of Michael Jackson.

Yeah. Which is crazy. He said he was taking a dump, and he just ran down the hallway. He told everyone he was taking a dump. Wild. Wild, though. So we go in this game, and we're driving right away. Was that the first drive?

And then Tom threw a pick in the red area. The Jeremy Lane interception. Jeremy Lane. Well, that's what happened. Yeah. Remember, we were driving. I felt like we were driving. Yeah, we were driving.

It was a little feeling out, a little chess match early in the first, scoreless first quarter, a couple punts in there, and then, yeah, we finally got something going. And then we got something going. And then right before half, this is how I remember the first half. We scored. LaFell scored on the slant. Then they came back.

There was another pick, too. Yep, later on. Yeah, Tom threw two interceptions. In the first half? I think it was in the third half. Yeah. Let me double check. Four tugs, though.

Four different receivers, too. And then I remember right before half, we had a great last shot situation where we were trying to take as much time off and get points. That's when we got that man look with Rob and 50 across from him, and Rob ran the go and smoked him. That was like our first play of man coverage that we got, I think. Yeah, it was.

No, it was the second because I had that third. All right. There was a third downward on third and short and medium. They were notorious for that. I think that's where they went wrong in that game because then on our final drive when you scored the game-winning touchdown, they did man coverage again a few times. That's when they were using the man coverage in the red area.

Remember? Yeah. And that's when we put in X return spin. Yes. We put that in the night before the game because our coaches were like, we think we could get more man in the red area. We didn't rep that play. We put it in on paper, and we did it in the walkthrough.

But right before half, Rob scores. They had like 25 seconds or something. And then all of a sudden, you know, they drove the ball, got a penalty. And then they scored with like two seconds left before the half. And that was like they were getting the ball at halftime. And that was kind of like a little momentum swing right there. Six seconds left from the 11. Yeah.

Pete goes for the end zone and they scored chris matthews well you guys kind of dominated a lot in the first half i felt like we had their number that but they made great plays like and that's the type of defense they were you had to earn everything against that type of defense they were going to bend they were going to let you go but they always banked on teams to make mistakes throw turnovers let their defense align, get after the quarterback, make him make a bad decision, and get an interception.

Like, that's what they relied on, you know? And that's what happened twice. Even though we were driving the ball, you know, we throw two picks, and that's nullified. So even though we felt like we were making hay, you know, in that first half, the points didn't show up because situationally we weren't playing the game the way we needed to. Russell Wilson didn't complete his first pass

until five minutes left in the second quarter. You could see that their game plan, though. Their game plan, they were trying to run the rock. And they were trying to control the ball as well. So we weren't on the field controlling it. And in the end, we actually, time of possession, we were 33 minutes and they were 26 minutes yeah rob can you can you take us back the walk through your touchdown just if you remember kind of like beat by beat yeah i do actually right when the play got called i went

out wide and i saw that it was man coverage and i saw that he was off of me and we practiced that a few times already the week before prior and uh when the guy's playing about 10 to 12 yards off of me and i had all that room still to go into the end zone and run by him i gotta get up on his toes that's how you get by someone when they're 12 yards off of you yeah you gotta toe tap them so then they don't know where you're going they don't know if you're coming back if you're going inside i got up on kj wright's toes and right when he was out there we already repped this a couple times in practice so i knew i had him i knew tom was going to zone in on me no matter what if you watch the play Tom stared me down the whole entire time because he knew he was going to me as well these are one of

the times where you just know from practice when the ball is going to come for you so you're a little extra amped up every time I knew I had to make the play I knew it was my time to get my first touchdown ever in history in the Super Bowl. So I got up on KJ Wright's toes, did a little move at the top so he didn't know where I was going, and then boom, went right around him to the right and ran a fade route, and Tom put it up

there where only I could get it. I beat him by like two yards, which is a lot in the NFL, and Tom put it up there, caught the ball, just squeezed it because I knew he was going to be right there and going to come in and try to pop that ball out because that's what good defenders do and he was a good defender he tried to pop it out but I squeezed it hard enough landed and just grunt spiked that football out of nowhere and the crowd went crazy I think the ball popped the ball did almost pop that time well I also wanted to ask you too Rob with a play like that

when you get that look it's clearly one-on-one you against the linebacker mismatch do you you kind of answered a little bit but do you just know from the situation the ball is coming your way or do you like look to tom you kind of have a little bit of a thing or like do you just you can just read the defense you know what's coming your way you don't actually have to make it's kind of like starts in practice like i said when you know you're getting that coverage and right when i went out there and i knew it was one-on-one with a linebacker as well, it was the best opportunity on the field for Tom to throw to for completion and for a big play as well. And Tom throws it.

Mismatch. Yeah, whenever there's a mismatch, Tom throws it to the mismatch every single time, basically. 99% of the time he's throwing to the mismatch, and he's not looking at anyone else on the field when he sees that mismatch. Even if, if Julian you were wide open by 20 yards or whatever it doesn't matter he wasn't looking at you because you weren't the mismatch at that moment I was the mismatch there he considered that a mismatch because there was a linebacker on me

it didn't matter what linebacker KJ Wright great player but he didn't care Tom didn't care whenever he saw a linebacker on me he always told me I don't care what linebacker is on you, Gronk. I'm going to throw you the ball because that's a mismatch. You're faster than linebackers, and you're more athletic than linebackers. So right when I went out there, I knew that ball was coming to me, man. And it's also another thing where, like, you know, I think we were in the fringe. We were on, like, the 36.

We were in the 30s. What was it? How big of a touch? Was it a 28-yarder? It was a 22-yarder. 22 22 yard 22 yard so you're right there you're about to hit that red area and anytime you see a defender like a linebacker five yards off on rob it's it's automatically a mismatch because what people don't realize rob was faster than every linebacker and he could accelerate so instantaneously when once that ball is snapped and you see that linebacker as a quarterback doesn't give any ground and

Gronk's going full speed that's an that's a layup you know what I mean because he's got to flip his hips Gronk's going full speed Gronk's big enough to play through contact even if the guy tries to grab him like that's why it's such a mismatch that's why we only saw that look one time we saw that look once and then they stopped doing it because it was a 22 yard touchdown yes and like you said i knew i already had the advantage as well i think he would have been better off playing me up press coverage because that's where we're kind of even. I mean, I didn't have, I had acceleration, but I didn't have acceleration,

you know, like an insane acceleration where I would just absolutely burn by a linebacker. But once I got going and I was in my stride, you couldn't stop me then. That's when I was lethal. And then when he was about, I think he was like eight yards off of me, I knew I could get in that stride, get on his toes, make a little move at the top when I got on his toes, and then, boom, went right around him for the fade route. And Tom threw a nice ball, too, right on the money, man,

right on the money. Even if they pressed, though, that's bullshit. You were quicker than him. Yeah, you're right. I was just being humble, Jules. All right. All right. So we get tied up at halftime.

14-14. 14-14. We're in there. I don't really remember anything specific with the coach. I just remember it was kind of like we know what we have to do. Kind of the same old spiel we heard at a lot of halftimes. You know, let's just play within the play we can't win it all on you know one play so if we all do our job well consistently we'll be all right we just got to take care of the football and that was kind of the game plan

i think once we left the locker room it was the game plan and it's basically been the same game plan that it was the whole entire year and what's special about the super bowl as well as coach balachuk gets you prepared you know the way he needs to get you prepared that's for sure he doesn't amp up the game at all he tells us hey guys you don't need 10 energy drinks for this game you don't need a you know do this for this game it's just another football game we're going to prepare the same way because we prepare to the highest t we could every single game regular season game or a playoff game or the super bowl game so therefore you know you go in with the same game plan that you always do you prepare the same way you don't do anything you know extraordinary that to throw you off your game

so going into it you know we felt confident we felt off your game. So going into it, you know, we felt confident. We felt ready to go. I felt like good coaching, like a real good coach gives you information that helps you. Okay, you know, we're all professionals in the locker room. We don't need a rah-rah guy. That should come probably from like a leader that usually came from like, you know, one of the players.

But when you, you know, at least in our locker rooms, halftimes are always professional. Like, this is what we've seen. These are the five plays that we're going to lean on because we saw we got good tell from it, from what we did in the first half. We're getting away from this group of plays because they ain't working.

They're not playing the game we thought it was. So these plays, take it out of your head. That's kind of how hal half times were in our locker room you get four minutes right when you get in just to clear your mind while the coaches they go and have their discussion so there's a four minute grace period where guys are just kind of quiet and letting the emotions settle down you know you're kind of letting everything that just happened you know it's kind of like when the players are all together. Then that breaks up where we go into O and D, O on one side of the locker room, D on the other side of the locker room,

and you go over those plays that you think you can, you know, make better or that you go over certain game plan, some keys that we felt we could have going into the second half. And then you come over together as a whole unit where the coach gives you his keys of what he thinks we need to do as a collective unit to succeed in the second half. That's kind of how it was for us.

It wasn't like, you know, this one's for the Gipper type shit. You know, it was more of, all right, fellas, we ain't doing this, this, this. We need to do this, this, this. We need to do this, this, this. As a team, this, this, this. 30 more minutes. Put your best foot forward.

We all just need to play our job, do our job well, and let's go. And that's kind of how it was. You said it right on, baby. That's how it was every week. It didn't change. It didn't change. Regular season, playoffs, or Super Bowl. That's how it was, man.

Super Bowl was just longer. Yeah, it was longer. And he got us prepared because in practice the week before, we would practice for an hour, and then he would take us off the field for 30 minutes. For 20 minutes, yeah. For 20 minutes, however long the halftime was. And then we would go back out to the practice field,

and we were all pissed because practice would be longer then. And he'd make us, we have to do this little dynamic warm-up. All right, we practice a dynamic that we'd have to do to get our bodies rolling. Dynamic. Fucking Ivan Fears. All right, you guys over here. We're going to be coming out for a meet. Ivan Fears was our running backs coach.

And he'd have to, he'd always get up there whenever, like, the beginning of the year we had to do our stretch lines because you have to teach everyone how you have to do pre-game routine. And so in the Super Bowl, it was always a little different too. So that's when he got his encore where, you know, Ivan would come up there. He'd have his fucking binder paper with, like, the stadium drawn on the way he drew it. All right, guys, you guys come over here. The linemen are going to come here. The deans line is going to come over here. The linemen gonna come here.

The deans line gonna go over here. He'd be drawing it up on there. No one understood a fucking thing he said the whole time because he's yelling the whole time. Ivan's very animated. Alright, we're gonna get in there. And everyone's looking at him like, do you know where the fuck we're going?

I have no clue. I like he's got a diagram of the stadium like he's playing in a house. Remember he remember he would always go there's a little fucking notebook i don't know where he'd be sleeping for majority of the halftime yeah say the halftime's 20 minutes super bowl halftime he's taking a nap as well 18 minutes he sleeps for all of a sudden he wakes up i just i just had to get in this little moment. You know, he was, what is it called? Nick?

Narcoleptic? Narcoleptic a little, I think. That's a big word, Jules. It's big for me. I'm a math guy, okay? I know, I know. Yeah, we won the Super Bowl 28-24. We won by four points.

I always see Coach. I would sometimes look at Coach Fierce because sometimes he, you know, I don't know if he was sleeping, but he was, his eyes were resting in meetings sometimes. And Ives had these ears. I would sit and look at his ears. He had the hairiest ears I had ever seen. I remember once looking at his ear hair for maybe,

because we'd have like a 50 minute team meeting sometime i looked at him for a square eight minutes just looking at that i was like man coach you need to cleat that thing's got to be a mission to get a q-tip in there the weed whacker out geez oh man oh i was fear i love coach fears what coach fears was the man you know coach fears was my dad's coach at syracuse as well i didn't when he was he was at Syracuse. That's the living legend of Coach Fears and how long he has been around. That's incredible. Glue guy. Glue guy.

He's a glue guy. Scar. Fears. Jeez. Ernie Adams. Our coaching staff was legit, legit as well. So you didn't have Scar this year? We didn't?

No, this was Gouge. Oh, that's right. Gouge. Gouge. Gouge was great. Legend. Games with Names is doing a live show. that's right guge guge guge was great legend games with names is doing a live show that's right we're coming home join us in person august 30th at the wilbur in boston i don't want to spoil too much but it's gonna be a hell of a story and hey you never know who might show up

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then a brady pick comes next is second of the game oh second this was a second and then that led to a long seattle drive and then that was the doug baldwin touchdown where he did the poop celebration remember that he acted like he was taking a dump and the ball was the dump yeah he got a 15 yard flag for that though did he yeah that's bold, pulling out the poop celebration in the Super Bowl. Yeah. It would have been remembered if they won. Seriously. It'd be remembered if they were won.

That was a penalty, wasn't it? It was. It didn't really hurt him, though, because the penalty was pursued, enforced on the kickoff, right? And then they just freaking kicked it off for a touchback. So he got away with that one. And then going into the fourth, down 24-14. Up until this point, that was the largest Super Bowl comeback of all time.

The biggest deficit was seven up until that, which is crazy. Really? Super Bowl V. Biggest deficit in the fourth quarter? To come back from. Overall? Yeah. Any team had come back from.

Ten points at that time. Yes. It's incredible. Longest, largest fourth quarter comebacks up until this game in the Super Bowl was seven points, which is kind of nuts. Hey, I just came up with an idea, you know, a kind of a play, creative play is when you score a touchdown, like what was it? Doug Baldwin, he had the poop celebration and then the penalty was enforced on the kickoff.

So then they're kicking off from what? Their own 15. Oh, their own 15. All right. So then it wasn't a touchback. I don't know if it was a touchback. I don't think it was. Let me double check here.

Because I thought, how did that play out? How does that penalty play out? So Hauschka, it was a 15-yarder. Field goal? Let me see. Did they do it on the field goal? It may have been on the field goal. No, it was a 15-yarder. Field goal? Let me see. Did they do it on the field goal? It may have been on the field goal. No, it's not on the field goal.

It's on the kickoff. Because when is it when the guy is kicking off on their own 40, and then they just chip shot it, and it goes out for a touchdown? Sky. The sky kicks. Yeah, but why does it happen? What's the type of penalty that has to occur for that to happen? If it's roughing into the kicker or some some kind of defensive penalty because in

that opportunity if i was kicking the ball i would never kick it for a touchback i would go for an onside kick every single time that because then you're the onside kick if you don't recover it it would still be on there like 40 their own 40 or 35 yeah but then yeah they're they're a play away from being from three points. Yeah, because this was unsportsmanlike conduct, 15 yards enforced in between downs. Howish could kick the extra point, and then he kicked off from the Seattle 20.

All right, so he made it. So he made it to 35. Yeah. All right. So he made it to the 14. I don't know what I was thinking. I don't know, but I liked it. Yeah, you like where I was going, though.

If it was a roughing the kicker, and it was 15 the other way, then it could work like that. Or it was unsportsmanlike for some reason after the play. On kicking. Yeah, or on the offense. I've always wondered, for onside kick, because you can pick the ball up right on the kickoff,

and you can drop kick it. If you could kick it off the ground and go high up. We had that in the game plan with Ebner. Yeah, we did have that in the game plan. I think we tried time what about i'm there we had him on our squad as well yeah ebes yeah he was what a team we had bro what a team that was the best year for sure that was a good year great year they would be so proud of us right now talking situational football yeah all these years late you're so proud of us so going into the fourth down 10 uh the comeback gets started on the third and 14 conversion jules's 21 yard catch there over the middle uh you remember that one yeah jules was the most clutch player in playoff history do you actually

remember that time we needed to play jules you came through third down fourth down second down if we need the first down you got us it every single time no matter what year it was playoffs or super bowl thanks bro appreciate it bro that's why you're my wingman hey you got to move the chains to score touchdowns someone's got to move the chains i was this guy that scored the touchdowns you got to move the chains score touchdown no yeah that was that was i, yeah, I remember that play. Everyone talks about a concussion. You got concussed in that play?

Remember when I got hit by Cam Chancellor? That explains everything. Jules, can you walk us through that play? Yeah, I mean, on the punt return before that, I took a hip shot. So I returned the punt. We went into no huddle right away because there was, what, seven minutes left? And, you know, we kind of boosted the urgency. We needed some kind of spark on offense.

A lot of times you get into no huddle, it gets the offense going. You can move the ball, keeps one defense on the field. You can get some plays called. So we went into no huddledle and then it was his third and 14 and i'm already fucking my hip is tugging because i took a hip pointer on on the punt return so in between plays it'd be tugging and then your adrenaline kicks in right before play it was you know 10 f stalk i think it was triple f triple in which you know you got the the in cut the under we were flooding the zone and i had the deep in on the back side and you have a quarterback clock in your head when you're running routes

especially if you're running a deep route over the middle you know usually that ball's hit to you on the numbers on an in cut you know because you have it's middle of the field close, meaning there's a middle field safety and that anytime you get past that, he gets involved and that's when big hits come. So I'm running the route and I get to the top of the route. I'm still running and I'm still running. And so Tom, he had to do something, gets into the pocket, steps up and it's late in my head.

So you know you're about to take a fucking hit. So he zips it across the middle. I'm probably halfway in between the field. So you know there's a shark lurking. That's that middle field safety. So you better dig in. You better prepare for the hit. And that's why I brought it into the body,

and I clinched right before I hit it and cam hit me and it like hit me hard and I didn't know if I was down I was good I braced myself for the hit so a lot of people think I was knocked out that play because of how I tried to get up at the end you know but that's when the adrenaline kicked my hip pulled I tried to get up and my hip pulled if anyone who's had a hip pointer, you had hip pointers? When you get that hip pointer, it singes on you and it pulls all those muscles in your hip. So like when the adrenaline's down, that thing just starts singeing on me and I'm like, oh, and everyone thinks I can't get up

because I'm staggered because of the hit, which it was a fucking hit and I felt the hit. Don't get me wrong. Cam Chancer's a fucking dog, but it was because of my hip and there was no concussion so everyone out there oh the concussion no dude take a little teaspoon of cement go up you pick up your goddamn self yeah toughness toughness rob what's funny about that play is when we were doing your documentary, we tried to license that footage for that. It's a big play to get it into the NFL.

There was no penalty called. There was nothing. There was no fine. They wouldn't allow it. Legal play in the eyes of the NFL. We tried to license that footage for the documentary. They go, no shot. That doesn't represent the NFL.

So it was never in the movie. No flag, though. No fine. Wild. It didn't need a flag. It didn't need a flag. It didn't need a fine. It was football. Then let me use it.

Let me use it. Let me give you the money, and I'll put it in the movie. It's football. They said it didn't represent the NFL. That was a heck of a play by you. You remember that? To be leveled by Cam Chancellor like that, and to make that catch, and to hold on to it.

You know how hard that is? I remember him grunting, too. He grunted. When we hit, you know, sometimes you hear something. You ever hear something? The guy goes, He's like, I was like,

I was like, I remember him going, I was like, I was like, Oh, my gosh. And then you follow it up with another big third down 21 yard catch to 21 yard catch on the same drive. They P dropped us. So what they did was when you got into that red area on third down,

sometimes they had a man key where they did a lot of man, or sometimes they had a mixer where they would drop only rush three and put everyone in coverage, which that's common when you're getting close to the red area because there's more bodies. And with Tom not being a runner, you want more bodies in coverage. So the P dropper went on that next third down. And so I have like a juke route where you kind of have Reigns to do a lot of shit. And so I see the P dropper, and it's like a cardinal sin to go behind because you

have a guy behind you football player being a football player I went right behind him I slid in the zone and Tom hit me you know and and we got the first down but you know that's one of those things where you know like Rob said you you kind of know when when Tom's coming to you due to coverage he knew on that that man coverage it was to him. I knew on the coverage that I was getting the ball on the P that I had to find the soft spot of the zone because everyone else was probably covered because they had a lot of guys in coverage. So I found that soft spot.

He hits me, and then Danny scored the touchdown two plays later. What was Danny's touchdown again? We had the outside under by LaFell, which we scored on the first drive. That was a nice route. And then Danny had the little b under by lafell which we scored on the first the first drive that was a nice route and remember then then danny had the little bender it was bender it was bender in the end zone and then i had the i had the speedo from the three so you had the speedo i had speedo and then you came back right no kind of a no i have speedo where i go out of there because danny's got the bender and then we have the under from the outside.

Danny scored on the bender in the red zone? It kind of like means you kind of go over and you head to the pylon. Yeah, the pylon. No, that was me. I was a three, so I went all the way to the other side. All right. The two goes the near upright. The three has the under.

So the read is that three, two. You know, if you have that cover seven, sometimes you can bend them and yep you know if you had that cover seven sometimes you can bend them and break it if if they had the cover seven on me meaning they're doubling me you're taking one of the defenders out of there danny's got leverage and that's when tom zipped them all right and then the third read is lafell on the under if everyone goes back in the end zone then you hit lafell on the under and you're hoping that you know he scores i was just blocking this whole drive just protecting Tom doing my you know my duties in the blocking game were you and that's why you're the greatest tight end ever yeah baby yeah baby and then on that p dropper still I was just helping out you know making sure Tom didn't get touched that whole drive

and then I came through on the final that's right 20 yard catch you and shano oh yeah what about shane varine as well i mean what how many 14 14 catches for how many yards we gotta give a huge shout out big shout out he had a shout out to 11 catches 64 yards 11 catches 64 yards and then no touchdowns no touchdown they were crucial catches they were game they were they were well people don't realize with those kind of catches those are great plays because they were very pivotal in just moving the chains you know especially with the defense like we said earlier in the episode this defense is a ball hawking defense that plays really good zone you know they make you earn every play and they wait for you to make a mistake so a lot of quarterbacks instead of hitting that check down they try to force it into somewhere and that's

why they had so many picks because that you know they're in that those zones and they played those zones very well and the quarterbacks would try to force it force it force it that's when the opportunities come to have those interceptions. So they dare the quarterback to be patient, which you think, oh, that's so easy, but these guys want those big chunk plays. You guys want to throw the ball. But that's what Tom did, and he did that especially with Shane,

where he'd hit Shane in that backfield being probably the third fourth option but shano would get five six yards keep the chains moving keep us in a positive play and and then we'd go on and you know it's kind of like the jabs that's those jabs what made brady so great is that he wouldn't force the ball he knew what type of defense they were running and they wanted him to force it, and he won it, and he would dish it to Shane Vereen the whole entire game and just keep the chains going, keep the positive plays going because that's what's crucial. If you don't have positive plays, that's when you start getting stopped, and that's when you start punting the ball,

and it's a vantage defense the whole entire game. And you get backed up on down and distance. Yes. So then it takes out chunks of your playbook because in you know second and six is you have a huge category of plays that you can you can dip into then you know second and ten where you got to try to get it in a third manageable because it's a lot easier to get in manageable but the difference for you know Brady who who knows how to hit these checkdowns. There's a difference between quarterbacks that just hit checkdowns

and guys that hit the checkdown, and there's the one play where the checkdown is not there, and there's that little opening to the end cut where he sees it and he has to hit that. You have to make them pay when they make them pay, when they're not in the area, and that's what Brady could do that's that's the thing you see a lot of these quarterbacks hitting these checkdowns

I don't want to say any names but especially nowadays checkdowns check down and they forget the element where that's your jab you're setting something else up okay once that jet once he he slides that jab you have that two to go hit him. You need to hit the fucking two. You need to pull the trigger, and that's what Tommy could do. And that's the only way to break a defense that bends but doesn't break is by being consistent with hitting those checkdowns. And then when you finally have that opportunity,

that's the only time you can break a defense like that. And that's what Tom did, and that's what we did as a a team and to take the lead off to this awesome drive of jab jab jab jules with an impeccable whip route on the goal line time to see this time that was a wait was that a rip they call it a return a return i call it a whip route jules was really good at those because i got them ready in the showers i always took my towel and i always whipped them so then when it came down to the moment, Julian's like, oh, it's a whip route. I'm really good at getting whipped.

So you guys had a similar play call or you had a similar route or a similar play call on the prior drive before the Dola touchdown. Yeah, it was the same play. So you saw it, you knew it was there, you knew you were going to go back to it if the same situation arose? Yeah, we saw that we got the man look and we missed it and we didn't know if we were

going to have the opportunity to get it again but you know we saw it again and and they called the play and we were able to get it and we scored and we're sitting there like you know awesome now they got to go down and score and we thought we had the game in the bag until fucking some of these crazy catches came some crazy over jamie collins oh i gotta i want to ask a quick question too because this is the first super bowl you both scored your you scored your first touchdown in a super bowl you grew up playing football that's like a live a dream moment you like lived your whole life thinking about that in the backyard do you have that feeling at that moment or are you so in the game

so much adrenaline there's time on the clock that you wait till afterwards to feel that feeling now you you feel i mean i felt electricity but you also have you have this switch in your head where like game's not over you know and ultimately we were we already went to a super bowl and lost so that that like the shine is a little bit yes yeah it was more of like now we have to focus up and we gotta fucking finish this thing because ain't nobody gonna remember any of our touchdowns if we don't win i do remember that right after you score yeah i was super excited super juiced but still in back of my mind i knew the game wasn't over i knew there was like what about a minute 30 left in the clock or minute 42 left i knew that we had to stop them still so i was excited i was pumped up but still i was on the sidelines ready to go in again just in case if they scored right away and we had

just a little opportunity left a little time left like 30 seconds on the clock because that's what you got to do we've been there in that situation before. We lost to the Giants already in 2012 in Indianapolis on the final drive of the game as well. So you saw it happen in 07 as well. The game's not over until the game's over, especially versus a great team like Seattle. So in back of our minds, after Julian scored, we knew we had to do what we had to do on offense,

but we also knew the game wasn't over yet. It wasn't. You got the, we talked about it the marshall lynch catch where jamie collins has to chase him down that was a good route man great route great throw then you got a couple great defensive plays by butler browner on that drive and then you get the curse catch and you're just like and that was a great play what people don't realize that was a great play by malcolm on that scene on curse when curse made that weird back catch and then malcolm butler hit it out of his hands no he hit it what happened

you gotta pick you got it oh is this a jovan's curse catch oh malcolm butler did make a happy play let's see it oh oh that's the fight uh where is it oh it's the bottom oh yeah yeah oh yeah malcolm malcolm butler couldn't do anything more i remember it now that was a spectacular spectacular catch i mean out about it but like that was a spectacular coverage it was you can't do anything about it i mean malcolm butler covered that ball he did what he needed to do and it was crazy to see malcolm come in and have the mental toughness because i mean i think we i think we went away from errington errington was was starting that game, and Butler, you know, Arrington gave up some plays, and Malcolm,

they put Malcolm in there after he made a play on a seam because we were getting eaten by those seams. Remember that? Yes. And then Malcolm came in. He was making plays left and right. He was like a little spark, little puppy dog out there. And, you know, after I saw this, I'm sitting here like, man,

that's going to suck for – this sucks, man. That was a great-ass play by Malcolm. And I'm not going to lie. At this point, I'm sitting there. I'm trying to do math in my head. I'm sitting here like, how much time are we going to get the ball? What plays do we have in our menu? Are they going to score right away?

Are they going to go back out on the field? What type of plays are we going to run? What do I got to be ready for? Two minute? Yeah. Fast-paced offense. How many timeouts do we have? I was preparing.

That's what we were doing. We were just mentally programmed like that to be just ready for the final drive as well if they scored. Thankfully, Hightower makes a great tackle on more time. That tackle. That's a game-saving tackle. People don't realize that.

Night Tower is an absolute monster. Was it a first down or second down? That was on first. And then second down, the interception heard around the world, if you will. Malcolm makes another heck of a play, the greatest play in maybe Super Bowl history of his career. That was, I mean, that was so crazy. But I remember vividly once they got in that formation,

that week of practice, we practiced, our defense was practicing that play four or five times, and Josh Boyce scored every single time on it. And I'm sitting there because in Super Bowl practice, where you're chilling before your next period, where you sit down, you hone in, you want to see what the defense is doing, how they're practicing,

because you want to see what we're going into. And I remember, do you remember watching this play with Josh Boyce? Fucking lighting us up four or five times. And I remember them like, yeah, got to get physical. Browner did just that, thankfully. And Malcolm Butler came through. I remember Malcolm in practice was sitting back more. You he wasn't being aggressive and then what happened that play was

calling the game and malcolm butler was super aggressive and made the play that he needed to make it wasn't happening without the preparation in practice the week before so ernie shout out to our coaches shout out to ernie ernie adams Gronk, you got any good, we talk Ernie Adams stories on here all the time. You got any good Ernie interactions? I mean, I remember about one time in my career, he came up to me and I never knew who the guy was. I've been wondering who he was for about four years. My first four years, never talked to him ever.

Just looked, always looked at him like, this guy's just a genius. Just thought about that to my head. Like this guy is just a g as well and he just came up to me after a play and he and he just gave me a coaching point i don't recall exactly what it was and then i just felt special ever since that moment an ernie nugget love ernie ernie nugget it was my only one in my career it was like It was like 10 years ago, literally. Four years in. That's when I knew I finally made it.

Getting an Ernie Nugget. When I got an Ernie Nugget. Ernie Nugget. Oh, my gosh. Oh, man. And then after the pick. Well, hold on. We can't move on from this play yet.

This interception Malcolm Butler. So I know a lot of the public discourse about this is that this was the stupidest thing in the world dumb play call should just give it to marshall lynch um do you guys agree with that or is there because i there's the whole timeout situation we're we're building take the time out because he saw the clock was running personnel group was in there i mean it's tough man we had like all i think we had we had like 14 personnel where it's all big boys in like two corners who was in there i think there was three three we have safety so you want to throw the first out personnel so the i mean that's what right technically you do that you want to Yes. So I'm a huge Pats fan,

so I'm not going to, like, stand on the soapbox for the Seahawks. I just hate that the discourse is like, it's so dumb, you should have given it to Marshall Lynch because when you really, like, dive into this play, it's a lot more, like, nuanced

and there's a lot more, like, chess happening between Pete Carroll and the Seahawks and what the Patriots and the Belichick and not just, like, in this moment, but as you mentioned, chess moves happening in preparation where you knew this play was a thing here.

And I think that it does this play a disservice, and it does the Seahawks a disservice to just say, oh, you should just ran it with Marshawn because Marshawn Lynch only had five carries inside the one-yard line this year, only one scored a touchdown. So he wasn't like an automatic goal line back. He's not Mike Allstott.

Also, situationally, the clock was running. Belichick decided not to call a timeout, even though I'm back at my house yelling, call a timeout! Like that kind of, you know, you don't know this shit, right? And so it puts him in a situation where the clock is running. There's one timeout. There's three more downs left.

If you run at that play and you miss, you have to call a timeout. And now your next two plays are kind of, you kind of have to pass it, or you really kind of put yourself into a box and and i think that just this play deserves more nuance and p curl's not an idiot and like i don't know that's my that's my soapbox of it all that this play is more than just run it and it wasn't without a doubt i mean that's just people that don't know football saying that i like it That's the best dissection I've ever heard of that play. Man, I just fucking love football because you can just dissect this one play

and there's just so much layers on it. I just hate that this is just like the discourse is just like, oh, just run it, Marshall Lynch. I digress. I'll get off my soapbox. This is kind of like. I love football. You hit it right on the money, brother.

It's kind of like a cronut. You got a bunch of layers of just little beautifulness glazed up into one. You take that hole out. You dip it into a little coffee. Take a bite of it. And that's just play. That's right. And I have so many notes on this.

But, like, also, Pete Carroll had Browner on his roster the year before. He should know that he has the ability to blow up this play right so if you want like maybe the play call was wrong right but like the idea to pass it just he didn't check that last Belichick move to like make this the play the win they hit this play like five times though in the year that's what people don't realize yeah you know there's an old saying you are what you are. You do what you do. You hear those types of things about teams, and that's what this team was. It was a do what they do type of team, confident in their process,

confident in what they do. They're not changing for you. They're confident in their execution, and you change for them. And Malcolm Butler may have changed that whole goddamn thing. Hell yeah. We love you, Malcolm. And then it ain't over yet.

It ain't over yet. The most penalized team in the NFL commits a penalty to in the game. And then all hell breaks loose, baby. Grunk, you take us inside. That's when the haymakers started getting thrown, baby. A couple haymakers there, a couple haymakers over there.

We got any scuffle? Michael Bennett came after me, threw a haymaker at Michael Bennett. He tackled you, didn't he? Yeah, he tackled me. I got to give a shout-out to Hooman, too, because he was kind of away from the play as well. He came in to get a piece of the action as well, and he wasn't even involved that much at that moment. So shout-out to Hooman for of the action as well. And he wasn't even involved that much at that moment.

So shout out to Who Man for protecting my back as well. Who Man is a guy that you wanted a dark guy. Definitely. He's a dark guy. But I remember the play before. I was like, man, they kind of came after us. It kind of gave us a cheap shot on the first knee. I think there was a knee before that.

I was like, the next one. I was like, there's going to be a brawl. So I was kind of prepared. I was kind of ready. And then all hell just broke loose from there. And I'm glad it happened. I'm glad it happened, bro.

I was going to say, what a fun way to just put that much more to the game. Look at them. Look at that. That's the most smiling I've seen. There we go. Oh, good thing they got the penalty right there. Seriously. Right here.

Look it. Oh, yeah. A couple shoves. A couple pushups. Here comes the haymaker. Oh, ready? Oh, the slap in your face. Get out of here, boy.

Yeah, that I got tackled. This was a cherry on top. Cherry on top. There's who, man? I love you, who. I love you, top. Cherry on top. There's who, Matt? I love you, who. I love you, who. Look at Wendy. Get in there, Wendy.

I love you, Wendy, too. Get in there, Wendy. Look at Shane. I kind of wish we battled longer, actually, thinking about it. This was the highlight of the game. Malcolm Butler interception? No, the haymaker, baby. The haymakers. Look at WWE. Watch? No, the Heymaker, baby. The Heymakers.

Fucking WWE. Watch this again, but look for Matt Slater. Watch for Slater's ass. Alright, let's check out Slater. Guys, guys, stop, stop. Guys, hey, hey, no! That's on them! Where's the flag?

Come on! What the frick? Grant, don't do that. You over here trying to be Peacemaker jumping up and down. On you. That's how you used to talk, old bat. I love it. Man, that was a fun game.

Fun game. Fun year. Fun memories, man. Hell yeah. I mean, that was the cherry on the top it really was it was a game that got us in the super bowl club as well the aftermath just overall everything that whole entire year man we win the we win our first super bowl in 10 years y'all's first ever our first parade as well yeah let's hear some parades oh my gosh bro it was the best party of my life i've never been to a parade like that in my life we got snowed in yeah we did get snowed

they had to they had changed parade date because we had a nor'easter and we got yeah we got hammered yeah we got hammered there was 50 beers getting thrown at me at one time yeah like you had to get hammered little fireball shots shout out just to the city of boston as well they know what's up man they know how to celebrate they love the patriots as well they love their sports so without them as well the parade would never be the parade without our fans too straight ferris bueller's day off literally that was such a that was the fun that was so fun what was with the minions hat grunk i'm not sure i was leaving my house there was a couple minions minions hats on the counter

i just grabbed them love the minions yeah i was like man this is perfect you know goes good with it minions i'm about to have a minion party a million a million drinks oh my god oh dude i almost didn't make the parade because i was passed out in the airport because i went to jimmy kill i went out in la i tried making it back i almost didn't make it back and there i was passed out in the airport duels you too you're glad to be back you just touched back uh touched down in boston yeah we went to no we went to uh dis Oh, yeah, that's right. Man, crazy. What did McAfee say?

Oh, man, the next slide. McAfee said, Marshawn Lynch is all like, what am I here for? What's the next slide? That's all right. Oh, man. We're not even going to talk about it right there bottom right can't hear you oh i was twerking off the off of the duck boat as well i took the uh i almost fell

out of the duck boat oh my god me i was i was leaning out of the duck boat holding me by my legs and i was dancing and the crowd was just going absolutely absurd. Look at those twerks right there. I was out there in a T-shirt, and it's fucking freezing. Yeah, I didn't feel the weather. I didn't either, but finally, a cop gave me his jacket. The cops were awesome. Cops were awesome. The cops were awesome that day.

Well, you guys left from Foxborough. We were up in the city still, and we were at the hotel. We were at the hotel we were at a hotel we were at the w and i wake up and we have like 10 minutes till the pride and i'm like oh shit so i hit up my boy who's a cop like yo city's blocked off need help at w he's like i'll be there in five it's me am mandola there's like five of us i'm like we pile up into a cop car we're rolling through the street siren on i'm not saying any name but we were there drinking i i mean i i asked if i could shoot the gun he wouldn't let me but i thought it i thought it was i thought we were close. I wanted to get taste. It was so crazy.

It was a fun time. Those were some fun years. This is bringing back some freaking great memories, bro. Some great memories. Now, where does this interception, Malcolm's interception, rank among greatest Super Bowl plays of all time? It's got to be up there. It's got to be. At least top three. It could be up there. It's got to be. At least top three.

It could be top one. It's probably number one. Number one in my book. It's got to be number one. I mean, it was to win the game. It was number one. Number one. Number one.

Hands down. Without a doubt. Did this win spark the dynasty? I mean, clearly. Second one. Second one. Yeah. 100%.

We were actually better the next year. We just got hurt. Yeah we were actually better the next year we just got hurt yeah we were better than next year but we just lost to Denver in Denver which it was a tough one but yeah it did spark the second dynasty 100 because we had Dion Lewis next year and he came out like a bat out of hell we were blowing teams out till like week eight week nine then we lost Nate we lost Dion I broke my foot and then we just we ran out of guys i missed like one or two games as well would have banged up yeah but you were the only thing we had in the playoffs like we still almost won because of you it's all right we already had a super bowl under our belt i know but we didn't get to go back to back i know you're

right we never got to go back to back i know. I know. You're right. We never got to go back-to-back. I know. We were so close. We went to three Super Bowls in a row. I know. And we won one. It was my last three years. Won that one, Atlanta. Lost to Philly.

And then won versus the Rams. We were close. Tough. We were close. Sucks. Where does this game fit amongst your Super Bowl wins? This is number one. By far number one.

Just the game overall from beginning to start. Just a whole year overall. I mean, it's bringing back so many great memories. We did. It was right in our prime, bro. It was. Right in our prime of just everything, man. We were having so much fun just on the field, off the field.

Just overall, definitely by far, it's number one. It ranks as number one for me. It's high. It's high up there i mean it's just crazy because all of our superbowls had such crazy implications like this one the next one we're down 28 to 3 and you and that's that's fucking crazy you know we got i got superbowl mvp on the next one you go to tampa win with another team like they all it's it's crazy to pick one but this is definitely the the first one is the first time you got to experience this feeling the first time you got to touch the trophy this is something that we literally were dreaming about since we were fucking kids exactly you know so it's it's

kind of like the first girl you kiss. You never forget. You never forget. Never forget. It was the sweetest one, too. It was the sweetest one. Sweetest game. It was a great game. Gosh.

Any leftover questions, Jackie? Did we miss anything? A couple ones I'd be remiss if I didn't mention. Tom passed Joe Montana for most touchdown passes in Super Bowls with 12 his pass to Dole in the back of the end zone. And I would also be remiss if I didn't mention this game was played on Rob Ninkovich's 31st birthday. Happy birthday, Rob.

Ninko's birthday? Happy birthday, Nink. This was Nink's birthday. What a great birthday present. You win a Super Bowl on your birthday. That's got to be an awesome birthday present for him, too, because he had a crazy road. People don't realize.

He was drafted in the fifth by the Saints. They tried to move him to long snapper. They cut him. Miami picks him up. He's on practice squad. They cut him. We pick him up, and that starts his career, and he was a hell of a patriot.

He had a big sack in this game. Love, too. Big sack. Big, big sack. So, mostly fans are aware of like the the parade and that's the big celebration but there's also like a whole event party the night of the super bowl who who played the the night party like the day of party it was flow rider flow rider favorite performer we all were on the stage just going ham ham, drinking, going crazy. It was Flo Rida.

It was also... I think Pitbull was on one of the stages as well. And Rick Ross. Yeah, Rick Ross. We were partying with Rick. Then I saw him like six years later at Live. And he's like, yo, yo, Edelman, we partied over at the Super Bowl. I was like, well, I went up to him. And I was like, he's like yo yo edelman i part we partied over at the super bowl i was like well i went up to him and i was like he's like yeah i remember that we were rapping together

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Subscribe today and you'll immediately be smarter and funnier than your friends. And who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's name the game. Let's name the game the Malcolm Go, the Malcolm Butler game, the Marshawn Lynch game. I don't think any of those. Yeah, I don't. I don't like any of those. The Malcolm Butler game. The Marshawn Lynch game. I don't think any of those. Yeah, I don't like any of those. The Malcolm Go.

It's not the Malcolm Butler game. I mean, he made the greatest play in history, but it wasn't like the Malcolm Butler game. This is a tough, though. This is tough. The Haymaker was awesome, but I don't know if it's the Haymaker game. No, it's not the Haymaker game. The Legion of Doom game.

Yeah. Legion of Doom. That's pretty good.maker game. The Legion of Doom game. Yeah. Legion of Doom. That's pretty good. Dynasty 2.0. Ooh. There we go. I think that sounds like a winner in my book. The start of the second Dynasty.

Dynasty 2.0. I like it. Let's go with that. I like it. Stakes of the game. What do you give it, Gronk? Stakes? That's a 10.

I mean, it's a Super Bowl. Super Bowl. Got it. You know, you're playing against defending Super Bowl champion. What else is there? I mean, how can you have Bowl. Super Bowl. Got it. You know, you're playing against defending Super Bowl champion. What else is there? I mean, how can you have higher stakes? Is there anything bigger? I mean, you had a couple losses.

You weren't a dynasty. You're not back-to-back. I mean, you know, you're just throwing out 10s all over the place here. Because this is a Super Bowl. Okay, that's fine. Fine. Give it a 9.5. 9.5.

9.5. A 10 would have been if we won the year before and not Seattle. Exactly. Star power. That's at least a 9. I'd say a 9. There's a lot of Hall of Famers in that game, and there's probably a lot of stars at this game.

Mark Wahlberg, John Travolta, Kevin Hart, Will Ferrell, Kenny Chesney, Sir Paul McCartney, just to name a few. That's pretty good. Just to name a few. Just to name a few. John Travolta. Travolta was there, bro. That's kind good. Just to name a few. Just to name a few. John Travolta. Travolta was there, bro. That's kind of wild.

I don't know why he was there. It is wild. Old Johnny. Gameplay. Great game. What's gameplay mean? Like how the game unfolded. Oh.

Like back and forth. Was it good? It was one of the greatest games in Super Bowl history. At this point, it was. Yeah, at this point. Okay, I'd give this one an eight. An eight. I think that could be higher.

Eight and a half. Let's give it eight and a half. If it was like 36, 35, and it came down to a two-point conversion, then it would be a 10. Right. See, that's quality scoring. But it had everything you want. Interception end of the game.

We were up. They were up. We came back in the fourth quarter. There was a fight at end of the game as well to end it. It really did. It's at least an eight and a half minimum. Rob, I commend your integrity with this segment. Most of our guests, they just thrown out tens willingly. I appreciate your

honesty and integrity. I love 11. 11s are nice too. name of the game let's score the name of the game the name of the game

the name it's Dynasty 2.0 score it 1 out of 10 give that a 7.5 there there what is our total actually let's go back let's give the name a 7.5. There. Take it. What is our total, and where does it ring? Actually, let's go back. Let's give the name a 6.9.

Yeah. Because Julian had that 69-yarder versus San Diego this year. Welcome. And I told him to do it in the huddle. Do you know how many yards you had this Seahawks game? 68. I was so close. I owe you one.

But one touchdown. One touchdown. One touchdown. You're right, baby. You're one. But one touchdown. One touchdown. You're right, baby. You're right. There we go. Rob, can you do that for me? My calculator is being slow.

What's the average of nine and a half, nine, eight and a half? Oh, so we take the average. Oh, that's going to be tough with a six nine in there. But what's the game play again? Eight and a half. Eight and a half. Eight and a half. So what's nine.5 plus 9? That equals 18.5 plus 7.5?

8.5. 8.5. That equals 27 plus 6.9 is 33.9 divided by 4. Oh, that's going to be a tough one. It's about like 8.4, 8.5, right? 8.4 8.5 right 8.475 yeah let's go baby i'm telling you i'm telling you bro he knows his numbers i can't read it i can't speak but i know my numbers i can't speak, but I know my numbers. I can't read either. Where's this rate? This puts us at an 8.475 right between the Squish the Fish 1985 AFC championship game between the Patriots and the Dolphins.

And then right above it is the 2011 AFC divisional Round, the Can't Wait game. We all remember that one. Bart Scott, Jets versus Patriots. How is that one ranked so high? And who did you do that game with? Rich Eisen. Rich Eisen? Rich Eisen?

Why'd you guys do that game? He wanted to. He requested it. Is he a Jets fan? Yeah. Oh, I was a Rich Eisen fan. I don't know about any more. Rob, the reason why it's so high is because not everyone

has your integrity all right yeah that's right integrity he has no integrity man of integrity a man of a golden heart what a man oh as you all know by now we've set up a new hotline for uh for all you guys to call in give us a call at 424-291-2290 this week we're checking our messages and answering your questions for gronk and i let's get into it yeah what's up jules and gronk i just want to know as somebody who admires giant beautiful athletes and i'm a non-athletic man myself what who is the most athletic man in the locker room in the past? Just overall athleticism. Not necessarily like skill, but just the most athletic freak.

Jamie Collins. Yeah, Jamie Collins. We already talked about that. Jamie Collins. By far. He can do a backflip. He's like 6'6", what, 3'2"? No, he's 6'6", 6'5".

Oh, yeah, he's 6'5", 2'50", can do a backflip. 6'4". With ease. I told the story before where the dbs were all betting and you know you have the 12 foot ceiling they're all like talking shit and they were all like betting sodas and stuff in the locker room for who who could uh touch the ceiling and they got in his way and he saw what they were doing with his headphones on and his flip flops. He goes, he jumps up,

touches, slaps the ceiling and takes all the sodas that they were gambling. So dude's athletic. He might be the most athletic big man I've ever seen. That's naturally. What's up Jules? What's up Gronk? Yo, what up?

This is Jeff from Lanesboro, Massachusetts. I just had a couple of quick questions. First, what were some key areas of game playing that Coach Belichick would cover in order to give you guys an edge over the other team? Second, what was it about the Miami Dolphins that gave your team such a hard time every year where they often beat you?

Love the show. Well, we're a game plan team. So every game plan was different for each team that we played. So it's hard to go down the Rolodex. I mean, we would find the mismatches on offense if it was a running back going versus linebacker if it was a wide out going versus safety we would find the mismatches every week and coaches would discover them and then we would go out execute them in practice and then when game time came that's when tom always saw that mismatch happen and fold and he would throw it to the mismatch guy for the second question i mean half the time you play miami

the game don't mean anything it's hot there it's sweaty it's always hard to play in miami you just you go from 30 with a wind chill of 10 and you're going down you put us in 85 and 82 humidity it's fucking hot out there we haven't seen that in six months it's hard to play in it what do you think wrong plus we love the city of miami so we wanted to be treated you know be treated like kings when we went down there so we beat miami dolphins every single time they went like us so we were just making sure that we were you know truly treated well every time we you know wanted to go out on a bow or go get some sun out there on south beach yeah you know yeah eat some nice healthy steak yeah steak smoothie

yeah they got a lot a lot of that down there catch the sun we didn't want them to you know block our rays when we wanted to tan so we were just good guys like that and we knew it didn't matter that game so we always just let them win only in miami though only in my only in miami it's just one game yeah one game and i just had a quick question for uh for gronk um so when did you think that the uh the gronk spike was like your thing like after you did it so many times like when did it when did you think man i should just really keep doing this like this is my thing uh Yeah, I love you guys. Yeah, I love you too, man.

And that's a great question. I need Jules to help me out with this one. But I always wanted to spike the ball in high school and college, but it was always a 15-yard penalty, so I never did it. And then my rookie year, I got to the NFL, and I never even gronk spiked my rookie year. I don't think I did even one my rookie year. Yeah, you did in the preseason.

No, I don't think I gronk spiked at all maybe one time but I really can't recall it but the gronk spike picked up my second year when I started just scoring touchdowns like a machine week in and week out and I started gronk spiking it and I don't know exactly what spike caught on but I remember I finally did it I was like oh I finally got to spike the ball and then it just became like a meme and I couldn't tell you exactly what spike it was but then everyone's like you got to keep spiking the ball and it was just going all over the internet fans were loving it and i can't tell you exactly i can't pinpoint exactly when it truly caught on do you do you remember i don't remember which spike it was but i just remember like the first one that you did spike he scored a touchdown

it was an insane touchdown and he threw it and he threw it down so hard the ball went like 45 yards in the air and that's why it became the gronk spike because people were like oh my god he just break the fucking football september 26 2010 is what espn credits as the debut of the gronk spike that was your second ever nfl touchdown and who was that verse um let me look i mean just so many touchdowns i can't remember this stuff so many games so many super bowls these guys forgotten more touchdowns than i've scored yeah 36 or a 38-30 win over the Bills. Oh, Bills. That's when it started.

That's why it started. That's why it was versus my hometown team, the Buffalo Bills. That makes sense. We're going with that right there. And if ESPN has that documented, that's when it started. I love it. I thought Fox had it documented. You're right direction fox sports thank you that's where the correction wrong did we miss anything uh kind of a mess

do you need i just came off a plane five hour flight you know you need i ate some wings you know you need for that mess what do i need you need a bounty paper towel all right let me get a bounty paper towel i gotta clean it up man you're right up i don't remember half of the plays in the super bowl game it's kind of like making me rethink my life right now i don't remember that play like what's going on with me jules is it because i played in so many super bowls and so many football plays this guy forgets i get hit more times no no like you you Like you said, whip route and speedos and stuff. I'm like, what's a whip route and a speedo? I'm forgetting all this, Jules.

What year was this game in? What's going on with me? This is 10 years ago. Give me a bounty paper towel. That will clean me right up. He's fine, folks. He's fine. I'm fine.

Rob, do you want to plug anything? Oh, my gosh. If you remember. If I remember. I don't need to plug anything. And that wasn't even a plug. I was just saying, I'm I remember. I don't need to plug anything. And that wasn't even a plug. I was just saying I'm a mess. I don't think you're a mess.

Thanks, Jules. What are we meeting for? Now I feel better. What are we meeting for? Really, do I need to plug anything? We're going to have another great year on Fox next year. Got it. All right.

Do I got to plug anything? If you're thirsty and you need a drink, go to iceshaker.com. Iceshaker.com. Iceshaker.com. There shaker.com. Ice shaker.com. There we go. Ice shaker. We all want an ice shaker. You know, pour your pH water right in the ice shaker and keep it cold the whole day.

And throw maybe a little of that Gronk protein in there. Cookies and cream. Oh, cookies and cream. Oh, man. What else we got we got oh that's all man see he just comes on for the love of the game yeah i come on for the love of the game i'm not promoting here i'm not promoting he's just hanging i'm just hanging here rob you want to show i just want to hang out hey i am doing the kick again for the super bowl you are destiny yeah so check that out that'll be live commercial right before right before um the kickoff i'll be kicking a field goal right before the kickoff this guy's

just kicking i just made a 40 yarder yesterday actually by the way for you folks he's actually going out and practicing this so for anyone putting that wager on remember that he's practicing hey hey buddy hey big fella you want to go hit the hot tub watch some yeah let's hit the hot tub but remember to follow games with names on youtube instagram axe which is weird saying which is formerly twitter uh tiktok and snapchat we will see you next week because jules and i are about to hit the hot tub and get in our bathing suits and maybe we'll skinny dip in the pool. And that's been another episode of Games With Names presented by Winbet. Remember, like old Roberto Yosai Fiesta said,

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