Games with Names - Feitelberg on The Ultimate Boston Sports Day | Saints vs. Patriots (2013)

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

John Feitelberg is in studio! The comedian, actor, and Barstool Sports legend is with us to relive an all-time classic that took place on an epic day in Boston sports history: Week 6, Saints vs. Patriots from 2013.  (0:00:00) We kick things off. (02:06) Feitelberg joins us on the couch. (37:37) We go back to October 2013. (46:30) We break down the teams. (1:02:02) We dive into the game. (1:14:52) We score it. (1:29:32) We have another edition of Jack Asks in the Chill Zone presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They went nuts. Not only was it on the TV, but they were playing game sound too. That's cool. That day always sticks in my memory as like, holy shit, we can do anything. we want in sports. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler and we're on a mission to finding the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode, we are covering Saints First Pats week six of the 2013 season with Barstool OG member of the Brady 4 and star

of Le mascots, John Fidelberg. And we're talking, getting arrested for Tom Brady. appeal happened and I was like, dude, we did it. That's kind of crazy. Barstool employee Mount Rushmore? I might be flipping Jerry and Gas. Jerry and Gas are the two that are right there. And then the best Boston Sports Day ever. That's just good of the four-hour

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Games with Names, a production of IHeart Radio. October 13th, 2013, Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, Massachusetts. Two minutes ago, New England was dead in the water. Now, they're 17 yards from a miracle. Tom Brady drops back. Kembro Tompkins, in the back of the end zone. This is the Poppy Prelude. Today we are looking at Saints versus the Patriots

Week 6 banger in 2013 with John Fidelberg Welcome to the Nutt House in one sentence What do I call you? Fidelberg fights. Whatever you want. Fights fights Fidelberg. What do the boys call you?

Mostly fights. Fights, yeah. I'm going to go fights. In one sentence. fights. Why this game? I think this is sneaky the greatest day in Boston sports history and recent memory. Is this the greatest game of all time? It's this game led right into socks, Tigers game two, Poppy going deep into the bullpen. And I think with the Brady, with the comeback, followed by the Poppy home run, to see two goats in like five hours be at the height

of their powers is pretty fucking awesome. This is right in the middle of, like, Boston. Like, the Bruins were just in the Stanley Cup. The Red Sox win the World Series. You guys win a year later. This was a ball nowhere pick. I love this pick. This is a ball to a baseball.

That is a real. That's probably the best answer we've ever got on the show. 100%. And it was one sentence. He said, this guy's a professional, guys. This is what we call a professional. I got halfway through it. I was like, this is definitely like three sentences.

No. We keep. a run-on sentence. We don't, we're not grammatical guys, but it wasn't at least a paragraph. Not a word guy. Yeah, because I went to the Sox game that night, but we, so me and my dad were at the game, we went into, um,

but my, my uncle worked at 47 brand. Yeah. And so their office was on Yockey Way. So if you went in the back on Yockey, you could just walk out the front and be in the stadium. Yeah, yeah. They don't check your tickets on Yonkey anymore. So we had gone into the game. Didn't they change it? I think they've changed it now. But like this is, 2013 was, we were running it. Any big game.

You just go in the back of 47, out the front door. But then we got to watch the final drive from the bleachers in Fenwick as they were still doing like BP and warm-ups. Place was going bananas. And then the Sox game started and Poppy has one of the more historical runs. Yeah. That was a fun time. Like, it's just been so, when you were, when I heard you were coming on the show,

I was like, man, I remember these guys when there were four slap dicks getting arrested in front of the NFL, whatever. headquarters. I could specifically remember sitting next to Tom like, hey, do you, did you see these guys get arrested for you? He goes, yeah, what a bunch of idiots, man. That was the goal right there. You know what? But it's been so cool to see where you guys are at. Uh, well, you got to get the Brady four. They have a term. Yeah, I know the Brady four. At the Hall of Fame Day. At the Hall of Fame Day. At the Hall of Fame Day. At the Hall of Fame Day was crazy. That was obviously super unexpected, but it was great that Dave wasn't there, that David already

left. To be fair, he had gone to watch the Celtics game, so it wasn't a total he left, but he was not there. He wasn't there. What's it like getting arrested for Tom Brady? What's it like getting arrested in general? It's pretty

fun. Yeah. It's like not bad. Did you do push-ups in there? I did I didn't do push-ups, but me and Hank shared a sell, and I was just snoring like a son of a bitch.

I slept the our night in prison. I probably slept the best I've slept in 10 years. Like, just I was out like a light. Because there's a long day of protesting. It's a long day of protesting. Yeah. I mean, it's standing up. 15 minutes, maybe.

That's your back. Your back gets tired. Probably, did anyone take a shit? Bro, what a question. First thing Hank did. He took a dumb. Wow. He took a dumb.

Poor jail cell etiquette. It was to the point where like, we had just gotten into the jail cells. and like, like, it was like noon on a Monday, Tuesday, whatever. Like, they were, they were not ready to see us. We were the only people in the jail cell. That's shit time. As far as we know, Hank takes a dump. And then you hear someone from a cell down the hall that we didn't know was in there going,

dude, is someone taking a shit? Oh, my God. Could you, that's the worst. Because you guys can't move. What if it's a bad? Was it a bad shit? No, it wasn't, but it was like, you did hear, like, a fart bounce off metal pretty quick. Yeah.

You know, like, those prison toilets. Oh, yeah. Man. There goes making the prison wine. Geez, Louise. Have you ever been to Alcatraz? Mm-mm. It's a great tour.

Never been to San Francisco. San Francisco is cool. I grew up, and we go, like, on field trips there, and you put these little headphones on. You walk through the old cells, and you hear, like, inmates and shit. I just had, like, an epiphany of, like, what if you were just walking there? You just hear a guy shitting. in the fucking show. Oh my God.

Who would be the worst barstool employee to be arrested with or share a sell with? Oh, man. Worst to share a sell with. I don't know why. I'm only thinking of the Brady for. Like, Gaz comes to mind. Dave would come to mind too.

Hank's the perfect one to share a cell with. I think we had, I think Dave and Gaz were together. I think me and Hank were together. Gaz would just be too selfish and Dave would just yell at me the whole time. So, Now, what if it was a communal room?

Like, it was communal and you needed maybe a little backup. Who do I need in there with me? Yeah, like, who do you want to click up with? Well, I take hang too, but Gaz and I have, we've been through the fires a little bit. Now, are you Jewish? No, but I like how you pointed at your nose when you did that. No, I had an inch. But I was just going to say, you know, because if you're in prison, who you're going to lock up with?

Are you locking up with the whites? Because if you were Jewish, like, bro, I don't know if the whites could have you. I'm so happy you asked this question. we had uh you know wallow and gilly yeah and uh wallow served 26 years i think something like that and we had them on the podcast when they started at barstool and i asked him i honestly i was like hey man i really wouldn't want to join a white supremacist gang in prison like would i have to do that and he was like dude that's the dumbest shit no you'd be fine with anybody yeah and then i was kind like i kind of want to go to prison yeah like i think i have a good time well i was hanging out

with the fellows like for a while i mean i don't know man i get that locker room camaraderie you got it for a whole time in the NFL. I never had locker room camaraderie in prison. Well, you could drop the soap in our showers. We ain't dropped these soap in them showers, buddy. Oh, man. Oh, my gosh. Can you take us to the origin of deciding to protest to flake gate and Tom Brady and all that stuff? Sure can. Yeah. Um, the, well, I guess I can't take you through the whole thing. But from what I remember, um, we at protests were hot in the streets at the time. Like, uh, someone had just, a group of people had just like handcuffed themselves. on 95 maybe or 93 sure and that had gotten some attention and then been a few weeks

few months later um this happened and Dave I believe the the origin was Dave wanted to march to Gillette and uh one of the guys who walked who worked downstairs yelled up he's like that's dumb do the handcuff thing because that just happened on 95 and we were like we're not going to do it on fucking 95 that's insane and I think Dave decided we'll go do it at NFL headquarters. And I remember we were driving down. I was supposed to go to Jamaica with my family on Friday.

And this was like Monday. And I called my uncle who's a lawyer and I was like, hey, so I'm going to get arrested. Can I leave the country after that? And he was like, yeah, you can leave the country but don't go get arrested. I was like, ah, it's too late. I already started.

And he's like, so when are you getting arrested? I was like probably tomorrow, around noon. Because it was Monday. I think Monday night we drove. And I think Tuesday. night the protest happened so that was the goal though to get arrested it was yeah yeah i don't know if it was ever like outright said that clearly but we we all knew what the mission was we were going to get attention civil disobedience yeah and then like for a while there we kind of thought it worked

because then he got the the probation or the appeal the appeal happened and i was like dude we did it like oh my god how long were you like in we were you like in we were You were in the lobby, right? We were in the, um, of, oh, Venneville headquarters? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I, it doesn't feel like it was that long. Like, I would guess maybe an hour, hour and a half. So we're just like hanging out there, Goddell walks by.

You're like, hey, we're still here. Dude, the security was coming up and they were like, whispers to us. They're like, guys, just get up. We're going to have to arrest you. And we're like, nah, arrest us. Did any of them listen to you guys? What do you mean? Any of the guys that were like, hey, just get up.

Do you guys? No, because we didn't. You guys weren't big enough yet? We weren't, like, listening wasn't even polly. I don't think we had podcasts right there again. This was, was this all website where we'd have to go on and see like, yeah, this was, I don't, maybe KFC radio was started, but aside from that, I don't think anything else. But it was, this was like kind of like, I think one of the stepping stones to like Barstall

be more nationally recognized because people were going nuts for that. But then in the, in the jail cell, luckily, and obviously very unfortunately as well. but an officer had just been killed recently and we had raised a ton of money and the precinct that we sent the check to just happened to be the precinct we got brought to

and so when we got in there they were like boys! What's up? And they took care of us not like took care of us but they made sure we were safe while we were in there. He always got to take care of boys. The New York Post is trying to say 15 minutes it was definitely longer than that.

As an OG Barstaffa fan, it was longer than 15 minutes. that were in the, in the, in the headquarters. Yeah, I mean, we were outside for a while doing marching. I don't remember being inside for that long. So 15 might be right, but let's call it a half hour. I like that. Yeah.

Bump those numbers up. Dude, butterfly effect, if you'd, if you'd gone on that family vacation to, to Jamaica, man. Wait, no, I still went. Oh, you still went. Oh, you were going to dodge. You went to hedonism with the fam? You get the bees. Now, where does deflategate rank amongst greatest injustices of all time?

I mean, incredibly, incredibly high, right? I mean, like, we were actually just talking about this with the WNBA, how they're, you know, kind of, she had the, the AA, WMBA commissioner had the quote about how Caitlin Clark should be like, on our hands and knees thanking the WMBA for existing. And we were talking on KSA radio, we were like, yeah, that's kind of a dog shit way for a commissioner to handle their star.

Yeah. And then I was like, wait, hang on a second. At least she has a bit suspended for four games for no goddamn reason. Why did Bill and I come out? He's a Seahawksman. He's a Seahawksman. fan. That pissed me off. That pissed me off. And it pissed me off today. I used to love Bill 9. And after that, like, I literally, I was like, I can't fuck with Bill 9 no more.

Take that TV on the rollers and put it back in the closet, bro. And it might be there's a mechanic. And he's over here telling me the pressure laws and stuff. He's like, yeah, this shit's, you look at the tires when it gets below this. I'm like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? And that was a great, can you imagine? That was so crazy we had to deal with that distraction. And we won the Super Bowl against a fucking great, all-time great defense. Insane. I think it's one of the coolest things in sports that, like, not only did you guys win the Super Bowl that year, but, like, Brady took his four-week vacation and just went to, like, Italy. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Right away. Like that were those pictures of, like, him and Giselle, just chilling in Italy. And I was like, God damn, he doesn't give a shit. Hell no. No, he was so cool. So cool. He had such a good tan, too. Hairline was looking right.

Hair color at the time was there. Just maybe just a... Man, those Italian Riviera freaking photos. We're sitting here grinding with Jimmy G and Jacoby Brissette This guy's over here having tuscan wine That was the craziest thing What a fucking G though

Gangster Take an international vacation To your NFL suspension Why not though? Why not? He had Alex in the ball there too He was throwing it out there With fucking Italy

Hit little fucking Amigo Istos Alex Morfino Oh my God Jules would you get arrested for Tom Would I get arrested for Tom Depends on what the rest would be I don't know Any arrests protesting

I mean, like, if someone was trying to, like, get after my guy, I'd put some hands on some dudes. And if that gets me arrested, that gets me arrested. And this is also, you got to think, too, like, it's early in your career. Early in my career, I'm going down. Early in my career, I'm going down. This is 2013, dude. I don't know.

2019, I don't know. I don't know. We got, I got a trust plan and shit, dude. Send Braxton barriers. Oh, freaking squarius. What were you guys, like, in the locker room during all this? Like, how real did you think it was? Like, did you guys, were you like, this is fucking insane?

Or you're just like, this will get it worked out because it's crazy? What part of it? I guess, like, the early part, like when, like the, I guess, around. After indie? Like, right after it happened? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right after we were like. Which was a great game, by the way. That was one that was over at halftime and just turned into a fucking party.

Well, no, I think it was tied at halftime. And then when we got the regular balls in, because they had deflated balls as well, I think we put up like 35 on an interview. I don't know the numbers, wasn't it? We weren't blowing them out of half. You spoke very confidently there, so I'm going to go with you. But I thought it was a blow out of half, and then the second half we just partied the whole time.

Let's look. But what were we like? I don't, you know what? We were just at the Super Bowl a few years before. So, like, this was my first time getting to the bowl as a, as a core, like a player. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had a new nucleus of guys. So we were like, but we had a bunch of guys that lost.

in that game. So like we were all on like the no distraction program, worry about what's on our plate right now thing. And that's what we did. I mean, that shows the mental toughness of that team because we had, I want to say, 500 reporters in our, in our freaking locker room every day asking about it. Like going into the Super Bowl, they're asking about it at Media Day. Like it was a fucking big deal. It was, it was like leading off like to, excuse me, what a stutter that was. The Today show. Ever stuttered by that? That was really good. That was really good.

Recovered nicely. But yeah, it was like leading off the Today show. Like every NBC, all kinds of things. Where you're like, I'd never seen sports bleed into mainstream news like that. Like on that kind of level. It's the perfect timing for that to happen because Super Bowl is when sports bleeds into mainstream. There was one other time that we had sports blend in. So update on the AFC championship game, you guys were up 177.

half time. Third quarter, you scored 21 points. Oh, there. Then you scored seven points, so it was kind of a game. We were both kind of right. It was a lot of a game. 17. It wasn't, we weren't blown the backs out yet. But then by the end of the third quarter it was. And then we're just running the clock out. I think, yeah. 30, 30 carries, three TDs.

LG. Did he have a kickoff return that he took like 97? He didn't house it, but I think he LG had a fucking banger game. LG returning kicks was awesome. It was. He always had a sneaky good return. Yeah, I think it was. Let me look that up. I will say, just as a side of this, the stat community doesn't do a good job

giving special teams enough love. Like, PFR is so hard to go in there and try to find, like, punt returns and kick returns. Speaking of stats, how many stats do you look at? Like, when you were playing and now? When I was playing, I would always, when I was bawling, I would look at, like, just the receivers who were leading in targets.

I would do that. And then I'd also watch a lot of their films. So I would look at stats on who to watch film of. That's what I think we've, sports as a whole, we've got way too many stats these days. And it should be something like that. Like, just give me like two or three stats. And then I'll fucking watch the guy.

I would make a decision from there. I would look at catches, yards, and touchdown. So that's what you need, Julian. That's it. You know what I mean? And targets. Because I wanted to see, why are they throwing to this guy? And how many times is he getting the ball when he's getting targeted?

Like those are the things that I always looked at. And then yak, you know, but it was mostly those. Or, you know, a lot of third downs I would watch. I would use stats to see what film I'd watch. You would use it. Yeah, right. So you would use it as a kind of a guide to be like, oh, this guy's worth checking out? This guy, yeah, this guy on third down has like a hundred catches.

Why? I think it's crazy when they, like, the stats. And it's obviously just because I'm stupid and don't understand them. But like the stats are all the predictive stats. And it's like all that just seemed to feel like too much to me. Again, because I'm stupid. And it's kind of fucking with me, these new streamers that have, like, the guy that's highlighted that's going to make the play potentially. And then I'm watching that instead of what I want to be watching.

Is it going to be right? Is it not going to be right? Is it like, it's just too much almost. I think exactly what you said there. Like, they're highlighting a certain guy. Like, it's almost gone to a weird point where they're trying to predict the game. It's like, just let me watch the game. I don't need to try and predict it for me.

I'll watch the game. I ain't right, dog. AI ain't right, dog. I hate, dude. So what are you doing these days now that, you know, I know you do bar stool, but you just started a new show. Explain what's this show you're doing.

So it's called lay mascots. It is, I thought it was less mascots. Yeah, no one knows how to pronounce it. And I'm in the same group. I'm just joking. I'm just joking.

Oh, no, honestly, every show, but they're like, is it less or lay. Some people think it means, it's French. Yes. French.

Some people think it means Lower East side, though. Like lowery side mascots. I like that. So we just, it's just mascots. But it is me and Tommy smokes who works at barstle we are uh time square cookie monster and elmo and my nephew uh thinks i'm famous

because i've been lying to my family and he comes to make a documentary about me and it's a little saskatch or harry settle and um it's kind of just the hijinks that we get into around time square around washington square park um different auditions and things like that we think of ourselves as very successful actors whereas we are literally borderline homeless people in time square who just get abused and disrespected. And I got actually punched in the head by a homeless guy filming it. Wow. Yeah. Now, are you...

Did you get footage of that? Fuck yeah. It's in the show. It's in the pilot. That's how you go. Maybe you have to sign them over? No. No, it's basically, actually, we learned if you're not speaking on camera, if you're in public, you can be on camera. And then unless you talk, they don't have to sign anything. Okay. So he just... This is okay? Yeah, he drew me a quick right. It's okay. Now, are you improv and all this shit?

written. It's mostly, so we've done sketches with out of order for like probably two and a half years now. And when we started those, they were all pretty improvy. Like we kind of had an idea and then we went out there and made it. And then as that progressed, we started having scripted scripted sketches. And then this show is, yeah, like 95, 99% scripted. Very, very scripted. Awesome. There's room for fun and all that shit, but very scripted. Yeah. You love this acting. I kind of remember you getting in this, you always, it seemed like you had this interest back in the day when you were just writing up articles and shit. Didn't, I always, I get. I mean, you're acting with Shane Gillis, with Vince Vaughn. Like, where did this come from? I don't really know,

to be honest. I, I, I've always loved movies and TV and I've always liked fucking around. But I'd never really done anything like that until the sketches started. And I don't know. I just really, really have fun doing it. I'm the, so I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, to do it as much as I can. Yeah. But I'm trying to get, I remember back in the day when you were doing sketches,

you and Amadola running around like cops. Yeah, we were doing a bunch of those spoof videos. Yeah, yeah. And honestly, I saw those.

That was before we ever did stuff. I was like, fucking Edelma, I'm a man, Amadol are smart as hell. Of course they're fucking acting already. Yeah. Not the Pumpero Tires.

That was the most viewed video on YouTube for the day it was posted. You know, you're tired of YouTube. No shit. Yeah. Those were fun. Yeah.

You know, then we had the burger times. and I, you know, I attest a lot of that to why what I'm doing now. For sure, yeah, right? I mean, getting comfortable in front of a camera, like doing the TV, the live TV thing. I think that just getting those little dumb spute videos, which was honestly a way just to kind of show personality in New England because we weren't allowed to handle our self a certain way in front of the media. You know, you guys didn't know who we were. And that was how you knew who we were.

Yeah. You know, it was actually, it was awesome. It was really cool to have like. particularly as a blogger, like to have athletes who you were covering have personality and be interesting made it our jobs a lot fucking easier. Yeah. But did you know when you started that? Did you know that like after your NFL career, you wanted to be in media or you

were just like, I'm just fucking around? I honestly, they approached me to do inside the NFL. And because of those videos, I liked producing those things. So I parlayed a deal. Like I said, I'll do the show, but you got to give my production company. a first look deal. Oh. So that's the reason I started doing TV.

That's smart. And so then we got that. You know Brady teach you that shit? Nah. No. And so we did that and then I started doing TV and then I was like, well, you know, I love football. But I don't love football enough to, like, want to coach because they have no lives. Yeah.

Zero lives. But I love football enough where I would like to be involved in it. And like TV became like the perfect fix. for that because we all miss the locker room time. Pre-production media and I have locker room time with Terry Bradshaw, Michael Strayhan, Charles Woodson. We

talk old war stories and it's the same shit we used to do in a locker room just before we get on. So like I'm getting that football fits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I've started to like really like it now. But you don't have no interest in getting into coaching or anything like that? You know what? No, probably not. No.

I could see you doing that, but you're also just so good at this, that like why go do something that's going to take up more of your time. You know what? I've had to sacrifice a lot of that time. This is great because I could still have a life. Right. I can still pick up my daughter after school, you know, like coaching. Man, I used to put in like 12, 13 hours as a player. And on the way out of work, I would be seeing like our coaches see their family for the first time in the parking lot before they had night meetings. Yeah. Like, I'm not doing that. Right. You know what that is a lot it's a lot you gotta love it and those guys work their fucking balls off like i tip

my cap to coaches and people that don't get to play the game that put that much time and effort into blit the game you know what i mean it's fucking nuts um are you on this wake-up barstool at all no no there's uh it's just the chicago people i think yeah it's been pretty interesting because i work with fox and i'm i think it's awesome yeah i think it's awesome that barstool and fox are coming together yeah i think i think I think it's actually going to be a really great show. Yeah. I think they've kind of had a little bit of a slow start, I think,

because no, it wasn't promoted or anything like that. But I think with a lot of the guys there and like the brains they have, it's going to be like, hopefully, just kind of a new age, not new age, but new way to have sports on in the morning. Yeah. But it is also different having the disconnect between what people on TV like and what people on the internet like. People on the internet like very different things.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's gnarly. but McAfee you know he's kind of like that first model of it yeah you know Disney went and bought you license him and Fox I mean Fox is now doing the barstool and I mean that's the kind of the new age

of what a lot of these networks are going to probably try to do they definitely are but they have to stop letting anyone wear whatever they want great point that's why I just think it looks crazy on TV and I'm not speaking about barstool I just mean like I think

I think sports analysts and anchors over the last 10 years have gone a little too comfortable. Everyone's out here in fucking t-shirts and jeans. Like, dude, I'm on, I'm watching TV. You're sitting at a panel. Put on some clothes for me, will you?

Well, Jules, I'm with you. Jules is a big anti-tie guy. What's your opinion on the tie? Tie, I'm either way. It's just like, when they're in a, if you're in a t-shirt or a quarter zip or something, I'm like, come on. Yeah, I get it.

You know? I'm still dressed in a trouser with a nice shoe, though, bro. You still got a shoe still. You're in the shoes still. Thank you very much, Julia. I like to wear like a nice, you know, I still wear a nice shoe. Yeah, but the guys in the suits and the sneakers, it's like, what are we doing? There's got it, guys.

Don't you want to look sharp? You're on television. It kind of makes you think of like the major league baseball manager still wearing, like, the baseball uniform. Just like, like, there's got to be a guy that stands right next to the stage. Like, you got to pass him before you get on the stage. It's like, nope, yep. And he's got a rack of like normal shit in that job. If you guys are hiring, I'll be the guy.

I'm like, yeah, I'm the TSA guy. Fucking back to the locker room. I'm TSA for fits on air. This mostly just feels like anti-Payton Manning talk right now. Now, what is your day life now like? Are you working at Barstool? Are you working on the show? How does Fidelberg's freaking day go?

It's at Barstool for sure. Like, everything's at Barstool. Basically Monday, Wednesdays podcast, Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, film or write or sketch or something like that. It's pretty nice. Weekends. I'm a pretty fucking good spot. Yeah.

Weekends is just Lower East Side hanging. We actually, honestly, God, with this show, it was mostly weekends like it not mostly weekends but like it was 24-7 it was any any day was on the calendar um so it's been a lot of that it's been it's been i would say for the last six to eight months it's been pretty much mascots now how many weird people are you seeing while you're doing all this stuff oh my god endless endless and and this you're in time square this is like crazy central to be clear in this scenario i'm the weird one yeah you're the guy that's got the camera on I'm doing it.

Like, I'm the guy and a cookie monster guy. How many weirdos you've seen out there in that cookie monster? But a lot, a lot. And they're very, they feel very free to give you their opinion on you. And like we've had, we had times where we were in like Herald Square, which is even near Times Square, where we're like, we've been filming and we maybe took off our helmets to take a break, have a cigarette, something like that. And we had this one time this mom come by with like three kids. and I'm sitting there just in a cookie monster costume but smoking a cigarette and she just goes

wow real nice and I was like what and she goes I have to explain this to my kids now I was like we're not at Disney World like I'm in the middle of New York City you're not entitled to a show I'm having a cigarette here lady oh my God I mean I pray that's that's the worst thing I see on the streets with my kid

I pray because the shit that I see driving up to go take my kid in L.A. to school was a, that's PG. Yo. L.A. is kind of, I'm not here a lot. L.A.'s kind of crazy. L.A.'s kind of crazy. L.A.'s like a little bit of everything, bro. My favorite thing is catching a late night high speed chase on the, on the news.

I mean, they're on at least once or twice a week. I'm talking helicopters. We don't stop them. We follow him now all the way down. They did to Mexico pretty much. Did you see the one recently? There was a great one recently where he like stole, I think, a milk truck. and then got, went under, underpass,

did the thing that we all want to do. He went to, and he escaped. He escaped. He got out. He escaped. No way. That's a good one. Look it out.

Why do they only happen here? Why do they only happen here? Because there's six million cars. Ah. And the helicopter. There's hell, and it's just the obvious answer, yeah. This is a huge driving city.

Yeah. Also, filming it, right, with the police car, police helicopters, the LAPD has the largest civilian air force in, in, I think, the world, maybe, or America, at least. So they've got like 30, 50, helicopter so they're always up in the air. So they kind of let them go and they just chase them and there's the highways. It's when they're bored. No. Yeah. Dude, it's, it's, it's literally like

Grand Theft Auto out here sometimes. We might have to cut all some of that. That's all good. I don't know. He was in San Andreas, bro. I feel like it's the same. It's the same. It's the same. Now, how I've been to the barstow offices. How do you guys get work done there? It seems like so much fun. It's very fun. I don't know how much. I guess you'd have to ask Dave how much work we'd get done. I think he'd probably be like, yeah, they don't get work done. But it's, I don't know. It's just, it's actually not as fun as, as I think.

I'm always at a watching event or something, like Monday night football I used to go and watch. Monday night football you'd always be in, yeah. But like, during the day, actually, typically when guests come, they're like, oh, this is a real office. Like, at least like in New York bought, in Chicago, you know, obviously they have a lot more of like the fun zone. the fun zone. But, like, typically it's, it's more or less just people sitting on their computers.

It's actually kind of boring. Yeah. Which is nice. I prefer that rather than, like, you know, there are days sometimes where Frank the tank is just screaming his head off the whole time. And he's like, dude, I'm just trying to think for two fucking seconds. Okay. Those damn myths.

Man. Who's the most underrated bar stool employee? Ooh, great question. I don't know. I would have, a couple months ago, I would have said maybe like Sass or Tommy Smokes, but I don't think they're really underrated. underrated anymore. Blutman, I don't know if he counts as being underrated.

Blutman's incredibly funny. Danny Conrad's crazy funny. There's a lot. There's a lot. Yeah. I mean, Glaze my guy. Fights is, bro. Number one.

Underrated. He's been there too long, though. I was going to say, I hope I'm not that one. Who's the best one no one's ever heard of? I mean, it's still criminally underrated. It's like winning comeback player of the year. You know, we're also inspired. of Barstool and the Mount Rushmore's. Who's the Mount Rushmore of Barstool employees?

Oh, oh boy. Okay. So obviously, well, I like, that's a tough answer. You're putting me to the fucking fire here. Um, like, are we talking about the origins of Barstool? Because like, whatever you want to think of. I, I want to say just, when you think of Barstool, what are the four things that, or of people that you think of? It's Dave Dan, Kevin, three. And then who's the fourth? Honestly, Jerry Thornton, I think. wow let's go me I love Thorndy I was doing that real thought

like Jerry's an OG yeah Jerry's been around forever so I think I think I'll go Jerry I like it Would you guys ever like Because Jerry covered the Patriots Right like he was more or less

A beat guy Did that Did you guys Were you guys more like the barstool wackiness Or would you read like how What Jerry was saying about Like how you played I didn't read Jerry shit

I would read I used you guys as pop culture stuff Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, and just funny, like, because you guys had a lot of the sense of humor of, like, my friends. Right. So, like, it was the same way of just digesting sports through the way we communicate and how we speak. And, like, you know, that's why I would watch you. And I would always feed that stuff.

I wouldn't read the articles. I watched a lot of the shit. Yeah, yeah. Clips. And I used to watch the one show with, what was it, where they used to do it with, like, Dave, Big Cat. one of the original shows. Oh, the rundown? Oh, the rundown.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to watch a run down every once in a while. And then I started listening to PMT. But that was such a weird, like, I guess, change in the media landscape where you can start talking about sports and swearing. Oh, yeah. I remember as a kid, even like, Stuart Scott was obviously very different. But, like, it used to be kind of watching, like, it wasn't even sports that I would watch.

I'd watch Nesson Front Desk, I think it was called. And, like, people were talking about sports. And they talked about it in the New York Times. where it was like, it wasn't like, and Mr. Edelman with a reception here, and you're like, that's not how you talk sports. No. And like getting to be able to swear and talk sports, I think probably had a humongous effect

on how sports are covered. 1,000%. I agree with that. I mean, that's why I believe you guys have your platform. The McAfee has his platform because it's just more relatable. Yeah. You know, and the times

have changed. That you can, it's more genuine way to talk about sports. when you can swear. I think it's more American to swear. Yeah. Shit. I don't do with anything. Fuck yeah.

Fuck yeah, bro. Wait, Jules, we gotta get your barstool of Mount Rushmore. My barstool? Put you on the hot seat, bro. I might be flipping Jerry and Gas. Jerry and gas are the two that are right there. Gas is goaded,

you mentioned earlier with like our stupid videos, like the Dole and the Cops thing, we, I would always look at Barstool and you guys would cover those videos. I'd be like, oh, fuck, barstill covered our shit. That's awesome. to love that.

Jerry Thornton wrote an article about burger time. We're fans. I think I was like one of the first people to go on one bite. I think one nibble everybody knows a lot.

Yeah, when I, I wanted to make something to try to make fun of Dave at the time. We had like a day session of brainstorming ways and what can I say to him. And we landed on one nibble

and no one loves the laws. Crushed it. But it was, I mean, it was fun because we all came, like, my career came up as Barstool came up. and they got big because of the team I played for somewhat.

And then the media land, 100%. Yeah, you know, it was just a fun come up. And it was fun to watch them grow. Well, you had the Mount Rushmore. Wait, where's my Mount Rushmore? He'll lay it on me, baby. All right. Got to go, Dave.

Big Cat. I like, uh, PFT is funny to me. And I think he's a genius. Yeah, he is. He's like, his delivery and stuff. And the, like, some random fact he'll, pull out that's like crazy. I don't know if it's like the

it's just, I think he's funny as fuck and he's smart. He's like genuinely like really smart. Well you guys all are like after I've gone on this side of I'm like realized that these kids were all like the kids that like wrote a lot of good papers and shit. Yeah, I see you get, you know what I can't do that

shit. And then my last throw the boy Hank on there. That was a part of you. I like Ron. I've heard some of Hank's, I've heard some of Hank's rankings with me. So, you know, honorable mentions. He's honorable mentions. He's honorable mentions. Love him to death. Hey, Jim. But I like Roan. I love Roan. I think he, and he's a little, he can flow. Oh, Roan. Oh, noted. Floating dog. And he's a Philly guy, like the Philly guys are always funny. That, I don't have you ever saw it. Because I, Mike you're up there too. Thank you very much. Really. For sure.

Because I remember you in the big four. Fights on there for me. Rohn had a song before a Super Bowl this year that he wrote in like a day, not even. And it is to this day one of the cooler songs I've ever heard. It's just, it's a Eagles, like, hype rap song for the Super Bowl. I think I heard it. It's unreal, dude. Getting in a wormhole of him battling people sometimes.

I know he does a little M&M things where he goes out. Yeah, yeah. He did. He was just on Kaisenast Stream. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah, he did like a compliment battle on Kaisenastri. Oh, that's a nice.

Yeah, yeah. Dude, he has these. He's insane him up in, uh, in New York. And we, I went to the most recent one, the most fun I've ever had in my life. It was so fun. Like, it was just the energy. Like, like, like rappers just compliment each other. It was a blast. We need more of that. Yeah, I like that. I like that. I like that. B rabbit shit. We're coming straight for the face. Mom spaghetti. We'll be right back after this quick break. At 19, Elena Sada believed she had found. her calling. In the new season of Sacred Scandal, we pulled back the curtain on a life built on devotion and deception. A man of God, Marcial Massiel, looked Elena in the eye and promised

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This season on Revisionous History We're going back to the spring of 1988 To a town in northwest Alabama Where a man committed a crime That would spiral out of control 35 years That's how long Elizabeth's and its family

waited for justice to occur 35 long years I want to figure out why this case went on For as long as it did Why it took so many bizarre and unsettling turns along the way, and why, despite our best efforts to resolve suffering, we all too often make suffering worse. He would say to himself, turn to the right, to the victim's family, and apologize,

turn to the left, tell my family I love him. So he would have this little practice, to the right, I'm sorry, to the left, I love you. From Revisionous History, this is The Alabama Murders. Listen to Revision's History, The Alabama Murders on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. us. All right, let's go back in a time around where the game took place. This game took place October 13th,

2013. And let's go over some of the pop culture. The number one movie, Gravity, number one song, Royals by Lord. My daughter loves that song now. Gravity. Is that the, uh, Sandra Bullock, Sanjah, yeah.

The camera going crazy. That was pretty good. Didn't she, they die? At the end, they don't, didn't they not see each other? Someone died on that. I think, I think Clooney died. Cooney was dead. Even though he, like, came in was, like, sitting next to her.

Yeah. Yeah. But that was, like, a fantasy, I think. Yeah. Or, like, an oxygen deprivation type situation. What I remember most from that movie is the great joke Tina Faye and Amy Polar had at the Golden Globes that year, which was, uh, Gravity is nominated a movie that shows just how far George Clooney will go to stay away from a woman, his own aid. Forever. He'll go forever away.

Forever away. But now, I think now, him and them all are, I think they're similar age. Appropriate? Yeah. This is, wait, didn't she, he, oh, no, Keanu Reeves just married like a six-year-old babe. Yeah, because he's like 60, bro. He's like 60. He's a vampire. Can we just get it out there?

Keanu is, I think he's an interesting dude. He's just so cool. I think he just, like, drives like a Toyota, goes to, like, the gun range and does, like, hand combat shit. Yeah. See, I say Keanu. But if you, the reals say Keanu. People really understand how to pronounce his name. I would just say, you know, like the real in the head, kind of in the ends.

Yeah, yeah. I'm a real industry guy. Industry guy. I didn't want to say it. I'm out here and L. I don't want to say it. Nine-nities. You got nine-90s.

That's industry people shit. Oh, Robert De Niro. You mean Bob? Oh, Bob. All right. Around this time. Flappy Bird was the biggest mobile game. What is that?

That was that game. You had to click that thing. Keep it going between the little pipes. Oh, that one. Oh, that one. There's like a different version of helicopter. Yeah, I was a helicopter kid on addictinggames.com.

Oh, yeah. Who can forget? The Stick Ninja Warrior was my opinion. I think I took a picture of one of my scores because it was so high. It's like when you went in, did you put in your AI in bio, too? Yeah. It was sick.

Captain Phillips, we're the Millers. Machete kills. were, that was, I would say Captain Phillips was good. It was all right. Yeah, all these were all right. The Shaddle movies of the year? We're starting to get into the movies are just all right. Yeah.

When we do games from like 99, every time we do the show, we do a good from 99. The 90s have incredible movies. You got like shawshay. And it'll be a crazy dumb and dumber mask. Google hunting. I mean, this is good. Yeah, we're all right. I mean, this is okay. Captain Phillips. I mean, we all watched it.

I mean, the meme was good. great meme Super Bowl was Seahawks MVP Manning the Peyton guy and if NC2A champions

Florida State that's James Winston that was in Rose Bowl yeah we talked that game with Bert oh really yeah he doesn't remember it

but we talked it he left he doesn't remember he left at him and he had like an existential crisis wait fights what's it like being on tour

with Bert I haven't done it oh you haven't done it it's coming up November. Okay, good luck. That's gonna be awesome. Well,

I'm praying for you. We'll be thinking about you. How is stand-up? It's been awesome. It's been really, really. It's kind of like acting. I've been like, oh, shit, I really like this. So I've enjoyed it.

I'm trying to do it as much as I can, but I think, uh, I hope to keep doing it. Where do you do it at? Mostly, uh, we did like out of order. We did a tour. So we toured the show. Um, where'd you practice? Did you practice at the cellar? Practice?

No, God. No. no i would like practice like i'd open for francis uh francis ellis would go on the road and uh i open for him a little bit uh i hope to do that a little more in october this month now um but it's kind just been like out of order francis i've done a few like pop-ups at the stand um but more out of order is mostly where it's been yeah which is kind of a nice place to do it where it's just like i don't i feel comfortable with our fans yeah um but it's gone it's gone well like people i haven't got on boot off stage yet so no that's that's dude when I was working I did that roast I had uh

I only had five minutes and I worked on it and I did 12 minutes at the comedy store right yeah yeah yeah and it was like so nervous I was shaking up there where are you thank God we had like 15 frat dudes that were all like knew who I was I could have said anything they were going to go crazy yeah yeah but like yeah I was shaking that's nerve-wracking for For some reason, I like, I don't get, I obviously get nervous to go up on stage and all this stuff. Like, once I'm up there, I, I, luckily, I feel very comfortable. I'm like, I'm just telling you what I think.

I don't know. Like, if you like it, you like it. If you don't, you don't. Yeah. I'll be off in 10 minutes. There'll be someone else up here. Now, where do you get your material from? My life.

Yeah. Like, everything is, is pretty personal. I'm not really like doing, like, the news and stuff like that. I'm more to storytelling. Storytelling. Yeah. It's fun. I've, I really like it.

It's fun. I mean, living in a life. Lower East Side, there's a lot of inspiration. I mean, look how he's dressed. This dude is... Dude, I'm having to send you some clothes. You're liking this outfit. I got some stuff for you.

This guy's cool. This guy's cool. Now, what's, what's life like for Fidelberg in 2013? 2013, I was living on the corner Mass Ave and Shremont. Oh, heck yeah. Yeah, like right above, you know, Parish Cafe. Sure. He was Parish Cafe, too, at the time.

Right by Toro. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so I was living there. Actually, after this game, the one of the, the socks game, I was talking about. Me and my dad, so me and my dad were at the game, the socks game, and my uncle as well. And they wanted to leave in the sixth. And I was like, let's just fucking stay. Like, we're here, who gives a shit. Seventh, Poppy goes deep. Obviously, the night takes a stark change after that. We're like, we're getting fucked up. and we went back to my apartment. My dad ended up sleeping in my apartment. And in one of the more badass things I've ever seen, in the morning he was out already.

He was already at work. We got home at like 2 a.m. passed out in my bed, which I paid for, by the way. I was like, dude, I'm not in college anymore. This is my fucking bed. And then he got up at like 4 a.m., went to work. And I was like, if you're going to be a man at night, you've got to be a man in the morning.

I respect that. That's a bar. That's a dad right. there. Man, fall in New England when all teams are popping. Oh, my God. Nothing like it. This is peak that. This is peak that. I mean, ultimate, where were you day? So a year before this UKFC radio starts. I believe so. Yeah, someone around there. 2012. Was it 2012? 2012. It's what our research shows. Yeah. No, that. You guys are similar like the first podcasters. We were very, very, very early. And that's just all Kevin and Brendan Clancy. They were like,

I didn't know what the fuck it was. Like, I had no idea. They were like, you want to do this show and I was like sure and 15 years later here I am but like I never I never expected it to be what it became like it was awesome yeah a podcast as a whole obviously like flipped everything now how's the how's the game changed since then how's the podcast game changed yeah it's very oddly I'm not much of a podcast guy so I can't say I follow it super closely um I think cereal is like the only podcast I've ever listened to in full um but But the... Was he innocent or what?

Was he innocent or not? I think he did that shit. You think he did it? I think he did it. I was back in this by 2012, 2011. I was like, I think I was one of the only ones who'd be like, this guy's like he fucking did it. Yeah. It was like, get out of jail.

I'm like, look, do what you want. But I think he did it. He's got lawyers in his background, too. This guy knows. But I think the main difference with podcasts these days is I feel like all very successful ones kind of like created like they have a world. You know what I mean? Like kind of like you have here. Like producers are

involved. The hotel are involved. There's only two people here. Yeah, but like you got a little world in here. And then like I think also the most successful podcasts are also doing stuff like outside of the studio. Like again, like real world stuff that they're kind of bringing back.

But again, I'm a bad person to ask that because I don't know. Well, you're one of the pioneers, bubs. You're one of the pioneers. I was going to ask for some tips, man. We're newbies in there. Yeah, I know. We're still, I mean, we'll be 130 episodes deep now. Something light, something light?

Something light. Something light. Jesus. Jackie, let's get into this game. Should we get into these saints real quick? Let's get into the Saints. All right, this is Sean Payton. Fresh off suspension.

Bounty Gate, Sean Poundy Gate, Sean Paine. Bounty Gate, Sean Payton. That was Roman, it was Dr. Dr. Blitz. Greg Williams. We'll blame him. He's a fall guy in this one. they come out hot

8-0 at home this season 5-0 entering this game they signed our guy Big Ben Watson Ben Watson he returns this game Some notable rookies You got Kenny Stills Kenny Vaccaro

Tehran Armstead Breeze of course Is it the height of his powers Doing his thing Slanging that thing Mark Ingram You got Darren Sproles on this team Oh Sproes

Great defensive front as always You got Cam Jordan Friend of the show up there This is a solid Saints team Jimmy Graham's Jimmy Graham, of course. You've got to talk about Jimmy Graham. Yeah, he was a monster, too, this year.

We had a held catch list of this game, I believe. Yeah, he was. Good one. What, uh, he was seen, home team? Home team, no. It was the Kevin, what's his? Kevin James. Kevin James game movie.

Oh, yeah, I haven't seen it. The only suspension to spawn a Kevin James movie. That is directed by the Cananes. Shout at the Cananes. Wow. Shout out. Well, yeah, we were going to get a whole bid on that. Yeah, I guess you haven't seen it.

A guy that's supposed to be the movie guy. Are there any sports, sports, like, stories you want to see into a movie? Sports stories, I, I'm, you know, it's very funny, you ask that? Because we just did Andrew Santino's podcast, and he asked my favorite sports movies. And I was like, I'm, I'm so, so on sports movies. I think sports movies very often get very cheesy. Yes. And it's like, it's a hard line to balance.

All right, give me, all right, sports movies. You give me one word association. I'm just going to go off top dome. varsity blues great with cream bikini I had to think

it was descriptive word because all I could think of was with cream Mickey remember the Titans I'm curious

to step remember the Titans excellent if you watch as an adult cheesier than you thought is it

yeah it's pretty cheesy I gotta watch also Shane's joke kind of ruined it for you Shane's joke where he's just like wait the football

team's four and oh I don't I'm not racist anymore this whole shot is incredible That's so funny. It's like, this is 1970. All right.

Hold on. The football team's pouring out. These are my brothers. What about Rudy? Rudy, I liked Rudy again. I probably haven't seen Rudy since I was in my early 20s, but very good movie, but kind of cheesy. Rocky.

Incredibly cheesy, but awesome. Rocky 4. Bro, I watch Rocky. I'm glad you said this. Dude, I watched Rocky very recently because I, I, I, I watched Rocky very recently. because I hadn't heard that Stallone wrote it. So I was like, holy shit. I didn't realize Stallone was right and stuff.

So I went back and watched Rocky One and I was like, yeah, this seems like Sylvester Stallone wrote it. It's like 45 minutes of montages and then three separate lines of dial. In the same way that sports media needed to swear, I think sports films need that same treatment. Yeah. Barstool treatment to it.

Any given Sunday is great. I loved any given Sunday. So you said great to like five sports movies. Oh, I think they're great. But just like, like, would I put them as my favorite movies? No. No. No, they're, sports movies has its own category.

You can have fun in it. Ricky the Year. Book of the Year was great. Yeah, yeah. I know, John Law. Oh, yeah. San Laugh, I was obsessed with as a kid. I probably haven't seen that one in my recent.

I watched it recently with my daughter. Holds up. Really? Holds up. Dude, I was, I was big obsessed with it as a kid. Yeah, it was great. The Beast. The Beast.

Now, what do you remember of this New Orleans Saints team, this generation? I remember that they were scary, particularly coming into this game because I think I think you said they were five and oh you guys we were we won we four and one four and one but you'd had a dog shit game the week before bad bad game oh we lost a brady's worst game yeah rainy misty that rainstorm at the end torrential downpour oh we're gonna do that one with pacman jones i looked at it with freaking i remember going specifically to danny i look at them we're about to go two-minute huddle there's like 45 seconds we have to like score a touchdown

And it's fucking pouring rain. I look at Naman Dole? I go, do you got a towel? He goes, there are no towels. It's fucking rainy. I was like, oh, man. There are no towel. There are no towel.

How good was Sean Payton this time, man? Man, he got him going. He's, we'll get him now still. I forgot Ben Watson was on this team. He was really good on this team. I mean, I play with Ben Watson at the end of my career. That's crazy, bro. He played, I think, 18 years.

He looked that up, I think so. Oh, that's right. Did he come back to doing? He came back. Yeah, I forgot about that. He came back. Didn't he also do something like incredibly impressive? Like, didn't he become like, like something?

I think he's probably like. He's like a big religious guy, I know. Oh, religious. I think so. I thought he did something like scientific to, but I obviously could be wrong. Let me look that one up. 15 years in the NFL. Yeah, the Saints offense at this time was always like super elite.

Led the league and time of possession coming into this one. So just controlling games, holding the ball. Sprouls. Throwing it out. everywhere. I mean, I remember Ingram and Sproles. That was such a good two combo because we used to have a, we used to have a running back route called the Sproles route because he would have these matchups on linebackers and he would bop them at the top where he'd see his little and then he'd cross across their face. Like we had a route called Sprouls because he was so good at it. I mean, this team was very... How often if that happened did you like did the team as a whole like take stuff from other teams? Obviously weekly. Weekly. We were a game plan team. So whatever that defense struggled with each. week. We would watch all their shit and we would throw our own little wrinkle on it, but we would see if they got it fixed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they didn't have it fixed,

they're going to see it until they got it fixed. And that's what we did each week. Yeah. I mean, we had our core group of plays that we'd always have, but we were a super game plan team. Let's get into the Pats. Talk about these 2013 pats. Finish the year 12 and 4, 14th year of the Belichick era, Josh McDaniels, O.C., Maddie P.D.C. Particularly star, Star, coaching staff. This was Brian Dayball on the staff. Flores still on the chaff. Chadde O'Shea, Patrick Graham, Pepper Johnson, Joe, Judge, Mondi Assamfort, now in Arizona, GM. Nick Casario in the front office still. The brain trust is in, is in full formation right now. A lot of guys that went on to do big things. Notably, a Jewel's breakout year, baby, I got to glaze you up first.

This is my breakout year. This is my breakout year. What was the different leading into this year? We didn't have Wes Walker. Exactly what it was. It's exactly what it was. Oh, my gosh. 105 catches, 1,056 yards, six tuddies. That was it, yeah. Not a bad year, babe.

Jamie Collins, Ron Harmon, and Logan, Ryan, rookies. This was an elite rookie class. Who was it? Brought in Dola. Jamie Collins, Dron Harmon, Logan, Ryan. Oh, my God. Just a beast. Coming off of, coming off that season

where we lost to Baltimore in the NFC championship. So looking to get back. And this is in that the thick of that 10-year drought between Super Bowl wins. And, yeah, like Kyler said, brought in Dolah, brought in LG. Was Collins one of the more athletic guys you ever played with? The most athletic guy. I remember the first time I saw him jump to center. I was like, what the foul?

Too foul. You know, when I saw it was when we played against Denver. And he guarded Wes Welker one-on-one. That was his job for the game. Jamie Collins covered Westwell? He was covered, and I think he got him on third down twice. Like on the option route. And I've seen West kill guys with that option route.

And Jamie was able to play it. And there's this one time I've told this story a thousand times, but the D.Bs would always, I think we had like 11 foot ceiling or 112 or something like that. And the DBs, if you're in a locker room and NFL locker room, all the DBs, they're always talking together and gambling. And so they're sitting there gambling about who could touch the goddamn ceiling and someone cuts over and Jamie used to sit in his locker

with his headphones on like he was like the little kid from fucking hard knocks that always had his headphones on that didn't talk much that just bopped to himself he would be in his locker by himself and somehow it got pushed over to his locker and he saw the money he saw that what they were doing he was

in flip flops he went up and slapped the roof and took everyone's money get out yeah that is such a cool story yeah it's Jamie Collins He was athletically a monster Jumping 11 feet and flip flops Geez Louise bro Now got to know a lot of big names

Ended up on IR this year Robbie G, Gerad Mayo Spikes, Vollmer, Will Fork All ended up on IR at some point So we're fighting through some injuries here It seems like everyone is I know always This is true

Like the NFL now This is true Yeah Dude the NFL's beat right now The I feel it up It's only week five six Is that cause of you because of like less training camp or less mini camps or whatever they say?

Yeah, I honestly really do. I could see it going both ways. But like, you got to like, you got to hit in practice to be able to like execute and hit in a game. Right. And like as a player, I hated the padded practices. And like, but like as I got older, I understood. I feel like you were like, you're kind of insane though, right? Like you, there was something about you that liked getting hit.

Yeah, I mean, sometimes, like, I, there was the, obviously the Cam Chancellor hit in Super Bowl when you were miced up. One of my favorite football clubs all the time. Can't when he just sticks you and you just start laughing. Like, I fucking love getting hit. That was also, that was head games with like them, you know, sometimes it would hurt, but I would never want to show them that it hurt me. Right. You know what I mean? Because that was your way of like, if they put their all into you and like, you know, like, you know they're.

got you got there on it fucking hurt and you come up like and it didn't affect you like that was like the way for me to get at 100% they're going to like Jesus Christ this guy's indestructible so but I you know I I did like to get a hit early in the game but I would always get that in the block block game or in the run game right yeah yeah bump someone out like a smelling saw a little bit exactly and uh that game I did that with fucking camp chancellor I swear he knocked me out like right there it was he was so rooted to the ground he was such a strong safety because you could always feel the safety strength when you go in and I'd always have that safety who digs out and it's called the force player so I'd have to go in and block them

you could always see you know like all right who's a guy in the weight room who's a guy that's natural this that and this motherfucker was just he was like rooted and like lit me up and like he like woke me up right there and it was going to be a long day spelling so we have spelling salt we bought some we bought some when uh they banned them and we've just been using them. Wait, they ban. No, the league doesn't provide them anymore. Oh, that's

right. The league doesn't provide them. They didn't ban them. But now, which is crazy. You're going to make us pay for this? Payroll deduct. When I was a kid, I was playing hockey and my friend came up to me.

We're going to leave that in. I was like probably like nine years old, my buddy comes up and he goes, dude, smell my thumb. And like an idiot, I took the biggest inhale of his thumb, but he had smelling salts right here. It's the worst pain I've ever been in my life. Why are you going to smell someone's thumb? I don't know.

What? Hockey, you smelly to this good? How old are you? Like, dude, is that smelling salts? I was hoping it was going to smell like your ass. Would you play hockey? What'd you play hockey? It's like, best case scenario. Yeah. Someone's like, smell my thumb. Best case scenario. Blueberry pie or his ass. I'm not smell at a hand.

Man, this is fucking gassing me up. I'm good to go. Would you play hockey? I'm curious. Just like like like local youth leagues in Fall River and Paul River. And I played in high school in Rhode Island a little bit. Mount St. Charles.

No, but I used to play at Mount St. Charles a lot. I was just talking about it recently. Really? Because I think they've changed them now. But Mount St. Charles,

which is like a private school. Sick. Winsocket. Something like that. Yeah. They had fucking chain link fence for their glass on the boards. Like it wasn't glass hockey boards. It was chain link fence.

My dad. And it was better. Dude, it felt like you were at war. It was so awesome. Now, why would they do that? Was it cheaper? Being cheap.

I thought it's a private school. A few years ago. It's old. Old school. Is it still, they got glass now? They got glass now. They got glass. I think it was part of the lore of the school because they have like an incredibly

historic hockey program. For just, it's not a boarding school. It's a local private school. But they've sent like 10 or 12 kids to the NHL. And I think part of that was just staying true to their roots. Yeah. Bad ass. You wouldn't understand.

You wouldn't. Let's get back to football. so about this Patriots team like where are you in your sports fandom right here in your life are you what's your rank for all your Boston sports especially at this time at this time it would it's probably Bruins one still Patriots and Bruins are always back and forth when I was younger socks were my kind of won two and they'd always be flipping with the Patriots and then as I got older Bruins so I would say currently it's Bruins Pats socks Celtics.

Yeah. And so what are you thinking about the Patriots of this team because we are like Jack said we're going in like a drought right now of like winning the Super Bowl but we're still fucking no this is the height of like the Giselle curse

right? Like people were talking about that a lot that Brady can't win when he's dating of supermodel he cares too much about her there was people believe that shit like even at the time

I thought it was insane I'm much older now I think it's even crazier but like people really believe that shit people were saying jinxail and all that stuff jeez crazy and that's why I think it's such a big game too

we're like to come back from after you had that one dog shit game in Cincinnati and to come back with what was it was a minute 20 left on the clock no timeout zero zero that was actually you got stuck on this drive too yeah I did um but to

come back from that win I think was I think it was a tone setting game for New England as a whole which I actually think I actually would like to bring this up to you I think you guys did more for like the people of New England like my age than anything ever like you guys gave us genuine confidence like we actually thought we were good because you guys were good I mean like it's crazy to think about but like I grew up as like I was still like a Boston lovable losers type deal and like it changed the region it's insane that you guys did that I mean I think it's everyone I mean the Patriots were there throughout the whole thing. But the pads started it. And then I think the rest of the owners in the city followed suit.

And they were like, fuck, we got to, if they're going for it, we got to go for it. And I think it was 20 years of like all of you guys fucking encouraging, but like being like, well, the paths are still good. We got to fucking get good. And I think that had a significant effect on like the personality of the region, which most people would probably complain about. But yeah, I like it. Well, it was when you grew up when they were losing. Yeah. You still had the perspective.

It's the kids that grew up with the winning. Exactly. Now that they're seeing that. Hey, shout out to the. kid. I hope you're doing well out there right now, bro. We'll be right back after this quick break. At 19, Elena Sada believed she had found her calling.

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What's this lead up here? I'll get a little lead up. We talked about this earlier. Five and O, Saints coming in here, looking to get to 6 and 0. Pat's 4 in 1. Looking to avoid the rare back-to-back loss in the Belichick era

after that ugly game in Sincey. One of Brady's worst. 18 of 38, a pick, 196-yard. was that was one we want to get out of our mouths taste and then notable we signed austin collie you're austin collie right around this time this guy austin collie bro he was an interesting dude he would sit there and he would fucking bet he was dudes he was also kind of scrambled by the time he got a lot of attention he got awesome collies interesting as hell this guy this guy he had a real bad case of oCD oh really yes so this guy would be sitting there and

Right before he would go out, he had, like, trainers, like, massaging his hands. And he had to do it, like, a certain, he'd always be rolling himself. He's no-barring? Yeah. Dude, it was, like, crazy. Like, he, he was, he had put, like, go through, like, six pairs of gloves. It was just, like, but he was a cool. Yeah, he really no-marring then, huh?

Huh? He was very, like, no-mar. Dude, Peyton, Mating about killed my man, hanging him out to drive from a little. I know. My guy had some concussion problems. I know, I hate it. Shout out of AC, baby. Now, you weren't at this game

But what's like a Fidelberg game day At Gillette like? A lot of drinking What time do you get there? Like are we tailgating? Yeah, tailgating, but like not I would say like we'd probably take a We take like an Uber in from Boston

And we'd probably get there I guess always depends on game time But like three or four hours beforehand Yeah. Drinking the parking lot going Patriot place after While the parking lot clears out Uber home Yeah, pretty easy. Now,

I've never been to the tailgate. Which tailgate are you at? Are you on stadium ground? Are you across the street over in like those fields? Dude, honestly, usually on stadium ground. I don't know how we'd always get good passes. But usually like, like what I remember as a tailgate is pretty rarely like what I think most people are thinking of his tailgate.

Like we'd get like that Putnam place. We'd get like the parking passes in there. So the tailgate is more like having a few beers by the car. But I don't I don't really remember. Like when we were younger, when I picture. tailgates at Jolet, I actually just go to country fest. Yeah. Those were a little different.

I was doing that at the Morgan Wallen show a couple weeks ago. Dude, I got put in time out once at country fest by a stadie. Time out. Yeah. Yeah, I decided I wanted to turn it into Preakness. It was my 21st birthday. Nice. And I was like, dude, I was at Preakness last year.

It was so cool. Everyone was throwing beers. So I just started chucking beers. Not at people or at cars or anything like that, but just kind of fucking cracking it and throwing it. And a cop came over and he's like, dude, what are you? you doing? And I said, I honestly, I don't have an answer for you. And he goes, do me a favor. Sit down and timeout for five minutes. And I just did. And then he stood there while I sat in timeout. And he was, all right, you can go. What a cool dude. That would fall. I could not throw

any more beers. I learned my lesson. You know what? You did more timeouts. Time out. Hey, get one of these, baby. Give me a 30. Oh my God. Get us into this game. All right. Let's talk through this game. Bats go up early with a nice. 14 play drive get three on the board breeze comes back uh puts them up seven to three then we get into the second quarter it's all patriots forced three puns out of the saints the kid rid baby two big tuddies he's kicking down the door front door back door every door um 17 7 at the half then we go to the third two bad injuries dolla totally got knocked out knocked out i remember that and then my guy keep to leave oh my god hip little hip injury dude i actually have a question on the keep to leave

I was thinking about the current Patriots right now and I was thinking how like it's cool I feel like Diggs brings kind of a different culture to the team like he I think like players tend to do that whereas like the early Patriots I think when Rodney Harrison came in he changed a little like not not from different from what Brady and Belichick wanted to be

but he kind of I felt like he had a different energy to him he had his own stamp and I think Diggs was the same currently was Taleb like that he kind of had that a similar vibe to me Talib yeah he was Talib had his own Talib was a baller Yeah Like if he didn't get hurt

Against Denver In that AFC championship I think this year We would have won That was the one with the Remember he got He had a hamstring or something Then he went to Denver

And he got healthy And he helped them win a Super Bowl But I think Talib Akib was He was so legit He just got hurt I don't know if he would Like he wasn't like

I wouldn't say In the locker room He was like a loud he didn't have a presence like a Rodney Harrison. He didn't, okay. No, but he had a presence. But he was also, I think, changing in his own way when he came to us.

Because, like, there was a lot of things that you heard about him, and I never saw it when I saw him as a teammate. Right. Like, he was a great teammate. So that could be one of those things where he came in and adapted to our environment when I think, like, Rodney came in

and he shook up the environment. Yeah, yeah. He did the, uh... You know what I mean? fucking Jack Nicholson. My environment's going to be a product to me. Yeah, exactly. Departed, right?

But, like, I think Diggs is also different because he's shaking up that room, you know, it's a young room, and it's different on offense, but I don't think Akeeb had that kind of, Akeeb was funny, bro. He had the highest voice, man. Hey, Chu.

You ain't got no two chains. Crabtree, cap tree. Fucking love. I got to, we got to get a ball. We got to. He's down, his scheduling now. Yeah, we'll get him. Oh, my God, that would rock.

And then in the third, they come out and score 10 straight, tie this thing up at 17. We tack on a field goal, get it to 20 to 17. Kyle Arrington picks off, Breeze. Shout out Kyle Arrington. Kyle had a good game. He was great this game. He was great. And speaking of Akib, he was awesome on Jimmy Graham all game.

All over. Zero catches. It was awesome. So we're up 23, 17 at this point in the third. But of course, Drew Breeze and these boys, they got to respond. 10 plays 81 yards 5 minutes

get eaten up off the clock bludgeoning guys ins in a 34 yard Kenny don't call me Steven Stills TD 2423

Kenny don't call me dude shout out Stephen Steve Stills baby Crosby Stills Matt I went full Chris Berman on you there

RIP David Crosby RIP bro legend Twitter legend Twitter was awesome then we're down 2423

turn it over on downs in our own in our own side. And we threw a pick to me. Yes. And then they come. I think that was like the last time I had a pick or I think that was like, I think we went

on a streak where after that he never threw a pick to me again or something. Dude, I was. I was watching the final quarter last night, just kind of freshened it up on the game of it. At 2.46, the you guys had just turned the ball over. Yes. The camera goes to Brady. You can see him going, Jules, Jules.

And you turn around. And then the very next play, which you, you guys, it was, the defense was on the field of time. But the next play is that pass. And I'm like, what the fuck did he say? He's like, just go and I'm chucking it. Yeah, I think it was because it was a cover four beater and they were squatting on it. So like cover four is, right, I run it off that corner, but they'll try to have this guy if I'm going to run an in-cut.

So they'll kind of like pass you off. So they'll squat on it. So instead, just run by them. And he just kind of, and so I, you're running it off that guy and this guy's waiting to take you but he doesn't think you're going deep so then you run by which we kind of had it yeah it just was the throw was a little weird and my angle was a little weird I didn't get to like I got to see the all 22 it was a weird throw then we forced a quick three and out awesome get the ball back 113 left we're on our awesome call he had

come out keep going it was big it was big 113 left jules big one to you to come out start the drive off No timeouts, remember. I know. We're moving down the field. We're moving down the field. Finally, we get down to the 17-yard line. 10 seconds left. And we find Ken Brown-Thomkins in the back of the window.

Yeah, he was a rookie, undrafted. Like, like, like, 5' said, 2.24 left. Throw a pick. We're down. It's like, all right, game over. We're done. The stadium, like, every now. TV's turned off.

I left. I remember. No, what's the moment stuck in your brain from this game? the pass from Brady to Tompkins I'm watching it under the awning behind home plate at Fenway like in the standing room behind Fenway as game two of the ALCS is starting

in like 15 minutes and the place is just going fucking bananas. They went nuts Yeah it was not only was it on the TV but they were playing game sound too so like the whole stadium or whole yeah Fenway Park that's cool shit dude it was honest to God to go from that to literally what four hours later

Poppy going deep into the fucking bullpen that's just good of a four-hour stretch as you can have to watch Tom Brady and David Ortiz at the height of their fucking powers being the clutch athletes that they were

it was just a special night it was so cool five to one in the eighth poppy down here it's insane what a day it was an embarrassment of riches for us at that time

honestly it went on for years in both directions but like that day always sticks in my memory is like holy shit we can do anything we want in sports you know, it's funny because

when you brought this game up and I heard we were going to go over this game it was games like this and you remember that Cleveland Browns game where we were down by two scores with like a minute 30 to go and we came back and won it. When was that?

This same year. The same year? No, I don't remember that one. I'll pull it up here. When was that? It was wild. We're going to find it. Was it? But it was that game and this game that I thought about when we were playing 28 to 3 game. Really? And I would, and I was like,

you remember that Sage game at 13? Like even in the, like a half time shoot, you remember that fucking Cleveland game? I would represent this. That's fucking, you know what I mean? Because like that was crazy.

We had no timeouts. We had to go like 60 yards. And went only going over the middle of the field. It was like a fucking high school movie. Yeah. Bro, these were like, call the cheesy if it was.

I would have called it cheesy if it was. These were like little appetizers to 28 to 3rd. We didn't even know the biggest of them all was coming. I know. Crazy. What was that game? You guys were down 26 to 14 with two minutes and 39 seconds left. What?

And you ended up winning 27 to 26. And we won that game. I don't remember that one. God damn. We had to get two-point conversions too. Yeah. Is that weird? You almost like resent the fans where it's like, we gave you so many fucking good games.

You don't remember all of them? No. No. I don't. Yeah, this one's wild. This is one like go home, go on YouTube and watch the last 10 minutes of this one. It's insane. It's insane.

It was a fireworks at the end of the game. I was so glad I picked this game. It led to Zoe's like a unicorn show ponies. Where's the beef? That's my quarterback. Like that was this play. Fucking Zoe, bro. Fuck yeah.

I just saw Zoe getting after coach. Oh, I did too this morning. Was it this morning? Oh, no, yesterday. Yesterday, yesterday. After. Zoe didn't hold back. Bill.

Oh, oh, oh. Oh. Oh. How's that being a Belichick guy these days? it's tough it's fucking hard bro it's tough it's kind of like it's really bad it's really bad it's it hurts i try and like ignore it because it's like it does feel like he's operating antithetical to like his philosophy for the last 20 years everything he does feels a little different and like not not a little different it feels like it's a complete 180 and it's like in my memory that's

not how the patriot way was yeah i'm just waiting to wake up I'm like, dude, like, dude, dad went crazy. What are we doing, dude? I don't know. Who is this guy? Yeah, it is.

Nah, I mean, I don't know. It's, I hope he's happy. I'll say that. I hope he's happy. I hope he's happy.

I hope he's really fucking happy. God. He's got a lot to overcome. Man. Was this the greatest day in sports or Boston sports history? It obviously isn't like the greatest day because I was like,

you know, there's no championship involved. or anything like that. But I just think getting to watch Brady and Belichet, I'm sorry, Brady and Poppy at the height of their powers is... What a fucking day. It's unbelievable. What a day?

Put a bowl on this game. And it's fall, too. Let's not forget. Like, fall in New England's the best. Yeah. Fall on the best. I mean, it is. This is like the best time in New England.

The best. The trees are changing. There's a little nip in there at night. You're still getting low 70s. You see the Bruins game. Sox are coming out. When you see people at, Fenway in a winter jacket, that's when

it's officially Yeah. You see the beanie's. The beanie's, yeah. When you see beanies or whatever, toboggins, what everyone calls them? I don't even like baseball.

Who calls it toboggin? Someone, doesn't someone, some people do. Canadian song. Tukes. Tobacco. I don't even like baseball, but there's something about being in Boston

with the socks in the playoffs. Yeah. It's just like a, it is. I'll actually always, I'll say that about Boston. I always, people always ask like what town is it?

It's who, like, it can be every town. It can be a baseball. town. It could be a football town. It could be a hockey town. It can be a basketball town. Because everyone cares that much about all the sports, except being in the Celtics. I don't want to care of

them. Damn. That's another thing, too, that there's either or with Celtics and Bruins generally. It's weird that for some reason, everyone who would play hockey or basketball, you were always forced to make a choice. Yeah, because it's the same season. I don't, yeah, but culturally they're the most different. I still could have watched it and followed it, but I didn't.

Yeah. Yeah. The hockey thing was crazy for alarming for me when I went over there. I didn't realize hockey. Just like high school, the people, I go drive around in my neighborhood, people go to skate. And they, like, put, like, they'd flood their driveways so their little kids could skate on them and shit. It's awesome. It is the best sport to be involved with, in my opinion.

Obviously, I'm sure you have a different take. But, like, I think hockey is the greatest community there is. Yeah. It seems like, because just from knowing the guys and meeting the guys, they're a fun community. They're a great community. You know, they work, they work their ass off. They have fun. They're really skilled.

They're fucking tough. It's a cool group of dudes as a fellow athlete. I played into the Blue Jackets alumni game this weekend on Sunday. And it was like, they were all like, was Rick Nash there? Rick Nash was there, dude. And he's awesome. He's got, Rick Nash has scored my favorite goal in hockey history that went against the coyotes. And I told him as much.

And I was like, dude, you're my absolute hero. I'm 37 years old. by the way. I'm telling an 41 year old man that he's my hero. But he was like, he was so nice,

so cool. And at the end of the game, we had put like, we had put like 15 people on the ice. We pulled the goalie and then just put like the whole bench on the ice. And it was the first time all game

I saw Rick Nash go, I'm just going to be Rick Nash right now. And just stangled all of us scored the goal. It was like, all right. That's the best where you're playing like men'sling and there's that guy who played D1 and then like at the end of the game

like we're going to win this game because I'm the best. Let's go. Now that the time's ticking down. I'll actually play. Was Jeff Carter there, too? No, not Jeff Carter. He's a little bit more affiliated

with the Kings nowadays, but... We saw that at that L.A. ice with the old timers, remember? Yeah. The fire. Miner was out there skating. Yeah. That was a crime against hockey.

But there were some, there was some like 60-year-old ex-pros. Jeremy Roanick was there. Yeah, they were all... They could still go. Yeah. They still make it look easy. Yeah.

Let's put a bow on it. All right, as we mentioned earlier, Jimmy Graham held without a catch. Zero catch. That's crazy. Time in 46 games! Wow. Shout out of the keep to leave.

and the guys blanketing him. We'd finish 12 and 4, lose to Denver and the NFC championship game. Keyb. New Orleans, finished 11 and 5, losing the NFC division around to Seattle. They'd go in a little drought there and not make the playoffs again until 2017. The Patriots, meanwhile, would snap that Super Bowl drought, win Super Bowl 49 over Seattle. 28, 24. Shout out, Malcolm Butler. We all remember that one. What a game. What a game. Ball knower pick. Awesome game. That's a ball nor pick. This is awesome. That is a ball nowhere pick. I love reliving this one.

Let's name the game. These are some names we came up with. If you have your own name, we can use it. But the ones that we came up with, the Kemprell Tompkins game, the Saints comeback game, count us out game. The white sweater game.

I'm famously wearing a sick white cardigan. Tom, I'm the only one that remembers that. Don't we have another white sweater game? Yeah, we do. Heidi Gardner. We do. A lot of white sweaters.

No, we did. This was Taylor Swift, the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah. It's white sweater season. Just came to mind. How about the Poppy pre-rele? Lude. I like that.

This guy, he's in the industry. He's in the industry. He's in the industry. I told me that one. Keanu, the poppy seed. I like that. They get two, Utah. Two chili dogs.

Give me two. Score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Decimals encouraged. Fights. Stakes. Zero to 10.

Decimals encouraged. The stakes were pretty low, but you still didn't want to lose back to back. So I'll give the stakes like a 5.4. Shout-up Brewski. This is going to be a good score. This is a good score.

I'm going to go. Yeah, I'm going to go with the 5.1. It's week five. Got a 5-2. All right. Look at us. Look at us. Yeah, we're all the same there.

Now, the star power of this game, two Hall of Fame quarterbacks, two Hall of Fame coach, well, yeah, two Hall of Fame Probe coaches. Star power. Jimmy Graham's beast. The Star Power, this is insanely high, in my opinion. Insanely high.

I'm going to give it 8.8 shout to David Pachanak. Oh, pasta love pasta. That's what he said to me once. We were at Kappa or something. He said that to you? Pasta love pasta. We used to hang out first. He's a fucking awesome.

He's imagined pasta. I could just have north end just ordering pasta all the time. Pasta love pasta. I'm going to go, yeah, you got some good football. football players, Jimmy Graham. A lot of guys. Gronk wasn't playing. Wilfork wasn't playing. Yeah, we're still young in our

Aaron Doffin. You're a little puppy at the time. Yeah. I'm going to go with a 7.6 at an 8.1. Wow, we are really kind of right in there. Game play. This is where the score gets good. A game play is zero to ten. Gameplay.

Zero to ten. Decimal. I mean, this is, this is 9-9? 9-9-9. That's a little high. I like it. I like it. I like it. It is a one minute,

20 second, no timeouts comeback. Sure. How does it, how does it get better than that? Boise State, Oklahoma? I mean, Chiefs.

Trip plays, engagements. In AFC championship. No, the Chiefs bills. Poor Pure. Chiefs bills, what was it was in 15,

45 seconds or something were they? The 13 second game? The 13 second. We don't need to go on the whole thing. I don't think that that's good gameplay. If I wanted to watch that, I'd watch a basketball game.

What about the chiefs? Rams and like 18. I like D.G's right way. It was like 40 whatever. Running up. For me, this is a great gameplay. 9-1. All right. All right. So we're in the same strategy. I mean, 99. I've never seen a 99 in my life. Is it the highest ever?

No. You got like Mark Cuban that gave his game of 10. Ray Bork gave us an 11 for one game. Yeah. I forget which part, but yeah. Breaking the scale, baby. Now, the name is crazy high. I'm sticking with it, but it's okay. That's okay. That's good. The name of the game. You got to grade the name.

the poppy prelude cultural significance of this game in the grander sports history i mean that one it probably probably isn't very high unfortunately right we're talking about but when you say it everyone remembers it we all remember this is like a fan base knows this game that's very true yes yeah people know this game the real ones know the real ones know all right i'll go uh 7.2 shout out matt light nice nice what a score what a score what a score what a What a treat. I'm going to go with the 8.1.

I liked it. This is a big game for me. Oh, I had an 86. I like it. All right. We're in the same. 5.

Wow, what does it rank and where does it stand on the list? So it's a 7.65. So that's, I think it's going to be 6.7 here. 6.7. Shut up.

41. Okay. It's tied for the 62nd game of all time with the 2th, with Super Bowl 9, Steelers versus Vikings.

And it's just behind the Can't Wait game, the 2011 AFC Division in a round game, Jets versus Paceous, and just ahead of Super Bowl, I don't know, the numbers, 56 Rams versus Bengals. It's a little high, but. But it is a 9-9 probably helped a bit.

I'll say a little low. I love this game. For a regular season game, it was fucking, I mean, it's Breeze Brady. Right. Great gameplay, good star power, culturally matters. And we were, we were both pretty good teams. And we still had a little, I still remember when they beat the fuck out of us in 2009.

Down there? Down there. I remember that game. Remember that? Monday night game? I stomped us when they went to the Super Bowl. Wait, no, actually don't remember that one. 2009.

It's when we went and played Monday night football in New Orleans. And they beat the breaks off us. 3817. 3817. It felt worse, though. I came in. I was the third quarterback because I broke my arm. Dude, you just played everything, huh?

Well, you just like, when you showed up, you were like, dude, I will do whatever. Like, when you had cornerback, you had fucking punt return, kick return. and wide receiver. Like, you were just, you were down for anything. Yeah, I mean, I was changing positions. I just wanted to play pro football.

And I needed to create value. You know, you can't just be on a team and not be good. There's only 53 spots. So the more you could do, but I feel like not a lot of people would do that. I feel like you're pretty unique to be like, I'll play fucking defense.

I don't give a shit. Well, they, I didn't really have a chance. I didn't, they asked me, they told me. Like, it wasn't like,

I was like, yeah, I'll do it for the team. No, it was like, you're sitting in on DB meetings this week. You're going to be playing fucking star. And I was like, all right. And that, you know, we had a lot of guys like that, though. You know, that's why our teams were so special.

We had a lot of guys that wanted to do a lot of things. And when you have the versatile type guys, it creates depth. And, you know, we didn't have, you know, the high, you know, you always look at how teams are built. You see the three dudes that are making 50% of the cap. Well, we had like the biggest middle class. because we had a lot of versatile dudes and I don't know Could you have kicked? Could you have kicked?

I can't kick. That's Michael Strayan. I just stood on the show last week. I was on the 9 o'clock and fucking I had to kick something and I kicked it and hit Stray right in the eye. This dude's going to have a black eye and good morning America this week.

This is our top, top games we've done. It's really New England. 28 to 3 is tough to beat. That's tough. Super Blood Wolf Moon. I like that one. that was all time that's like every

player that I've played with that's their favorite game I want to say really just goodbye the weather right like when you think back on something like that was the road just being on the road and show them up because we we didn't win on the road before that our generation

in the playoffs oh really yeah we were at home the whole time and that chiefs we didn't win on the road because we never want to see and it's that chief we lost two we lost two AFC championships to the Denver in those years

you know I mean so that was like our first one and it was like there's a you know they were the sexy team we were the old team there's a lot of there's a lot of fun Dave had a good comment about that recently actually where he was saying that um the the Pats win just with this past weekend in Buffalo was kind of like you know the Pats announcing that the Pats again perhaps hopefully and he was like it's crazy that you know back in the day there were a bunch of teams that were always the next team up and you guys stomped them out every time yeah and this time was the first time the paths had a chance to prove themselves they proved it they did that was i i i said it that

was a foundational win against the buffalo bills on sunday night football oh yeah that that's a kind of win that can change an organization because it allows the guys in that locker room who've been been coached hard to to play a certain way they finally kind of did it and they still had sloppiness and they beat the big dogs in the division, that gives the coaches enough more merit to be able to coach them. And that gives the guy in the locker room saying like, man, we do what they say. Maybe we will. You know what I mean? So there's a lot of like coming together on those kind of that win. Yeah. Especially for the young nucleus of guys that they have that are trying to develop into the new core for that team. Well, you just said you think about

this Saints game and that Browns game in 28 to 3. This is one of those games you can think about. They can think about... Later in the season. That's a great point. That's exactly. Fights, do we miss anything on this game? Not at all. I think this was...

Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Just like the game. Just like the game. 9-9, baby. That's right. The big poppy prelude?

The poppy prelude. Poppy prelude or big poppy prelude? I like poppa. I think Poppy prelude. It pops. Pete better. There actually was one funny thing. When I was watching the fourth quarter last night on YouTube,

they still had some commercial breaks. and this is the funniest commercial of Padroia like being like after the game when my boy Tom's done getting it done stick around we're playing the tigers tonight it was the worst laser show

we just had Ernie Adams on the show and he did the Panthers Patriots Super Bowl and he said he was the first time he ever watched the broadcast cut so he was like coming and he's like you guys ever see those Budweiser Super Bowl commercials

Bernie Adams which is really funny You guys know about these commercials? Fucking Ernie. What a treat. Well, thanks for coming on. Thank you, everyone go check out KFC Radio. Les Mascots.

It's on the Outerboarder YouTube. Le Mes. Le Mascots. Fides, I know it's early, but like the streets are clamor. What's up with season two, man? Dude, we're, we're hoping to do it. We had nothing, nothing, nothing in the works yet, but we definitely have hopes and dreams to do season two.

That makes two of us, man. Everyone go check it out. It's fucking funny. Thank you, Vites. Thank you for having me, man. We'll be right back after this quick break. At 19, Elena Sada believed she had found her calling. In the new season of Secret Scandal,

we pulled back the curtain on a life built on devotion and deception. A man of God, Marcial Massiel, looked Elena in the eye and promised her a life of purpose within the Legion of Christ. My name is Elena Sada, and this is my story. It's a story of how I learned to hide, to cry, to survive, and eventually how I got out.

This season on Sacred Scandal hear the full story from the woman who lived it. Witness the journey from devout follower to determine survivor as Elena exposes the man behind the cloth and the system that protected him. Even the darkest secrets eventually find their way to the lights.

Listen to Sacred Scandal, the mini-secrets of Marcial Masiel as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get her podcasts. Malcolm Gladwell here. This season on Revisionous History, we're going back to the spring of 1988

to a town in northwest Alabama where a man committed a crime that would spiral out of control. 35 years. That's how long Elizabeth's and its family waited for justice to occur. 35 long years. I want to figure out why this case went on for as long as it did,

why it took so many bizarre and unsettling turns along the way, and why, despite our best efforts to resolve suffering, we all too often make suffering worse. He would say to himself, turn to the right, to the victim's family, and apologize, turn to the left, tell my family I love him. So he would have this little practice, to the right, I'm sorry, to the left, I love you. From revisionist history, this is the Alabama, Murders. Listen to

Revision's History, The Alabama Murders on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Man, what an awesome episode with old fights. I was so hyped for it in fights. He went above and beyond, and I was already hype.

I mean, look how big they are. Seriously. I had to have them on my show. It used to be you go on their show. That's how big fights is now. He's big, baby, big time. Leading man. In an integrity type. type score. I got to say.

I mean, these guys, they invented the scoring systems. They did. They did. Not only was his score like integrity and that was a good score, but he made it meaningful.

Like Gretzky and pasta, Bruske, Matt Light. What a guy? I love that. Nose ball. What a pick. Hockey guy? I don't know.

I might have to like... He's a big hockey guy. Yeah. I like that. The Celtics being fourth on that hierarchy? My one complete. It's because he knows ball.

He actually, he appreciates his, all right, Kai, guy. We get it. You need the chill out and that's a perfect segue to red armbach's going to come down and we should do this every one of these

where I say something stupid It's time for the chill zone. Brought to you by our favorite beer Coors like it Coors Light delivered straight to your door visit Coorslight.com slash GWN and always celebrate responsibly.

Shout out. Once it hit your lips. What are we doing here, Jackie? Let's go with a little addition of Jackask, baby. It's about that time. You ready, Jules? I'm just going to put you on the hot seat, a lukewarm seat, if you will.

All right. This is a question I recently came across when I'm in the lab, going over Julian Edelman history. Is that what you call it, Jack? Yeah. Or just a regular Friday night. Either way, can you tell the folks at home, why did you wear number 11 and number one at Kent State?

number one was taken my sophomore year okay so i wore 11 and i switched to number one and every year i wore number one in college in high school we want it we we we won a championship or something like that what's that what other numbers did you wear in high school i wore five my freshman year okay and two ooh no you're not a two and two uh and so then and the guy who was wearing one at Kent left I became junior war number one and that's why and I kind of regret it ever then I went back to 11 and I felt like 11 felt better the sticks baby yeah the stick called you home this you never left the sticks did you pick 11 in new england or you just get assigned it to you they just gave it to me it worked out did you have to google drew bloodsoe after that no I knew who drew bledso

was we all know drew we all knew drew you know drew throwing that they perfect spiral still got it but it's one of those things I wish I never did wow That's cool But I was superstitious back then Like I remember changing the number one Like my My senior year And freaking we won CCS

So I was like man Maybe if I do that We were close I don't know stupid Ah We all we all got them superstitions I just was curious I'd go through the

Digging through the old images And the archives I was it Got to let the people know Gotta let them know Lord baby It's lore What's the current media diet

looking like if you will what shows you're rocking with what music you're listening to right now you know what people a little insight media right now it's Halloween movies yes because Lily I like that it's like we just watch Casper I mean it's we just hit October and we already watch a Halloween Lil loves Halloween a lot of that hocus pocus we've done hocus pocus we did that in September because during the Hall of Fame my aunt took Lily to Salem Oh, yeah. So we wanted to watch hocus pocus.

I think doesn't it take place in Salem? I believe so. Yeah. So we watched that. So that's like media. I watch a lot of football stuff. It's season. You know, it's season.

So like it's straight like Sunday's all football. I'll throw on the McAfee show for some of the interviews that he has. Yep. I'll throw on, you know, Barstall Sports in the morning. What is it the new sports show? Wake up barstool. Wake up barstool. Love what they're doing over there.

Like what they're doing over there. So, like, I like to digest my sports media through those outlets. I'm with you. Also, you got the hurt on a lot, too. I got the hurt on a lot. Yeah. I like to hear calling and, because I'm on the show. And I always, if I'm going to go on the show, I want to know what he's talking about.

You like that. You look at cowherd and Jack looks at J-Mack. God. Don't even give me a start. Do not compare. Are you comparing me to J-Mack right now? Nah, dude. That's Jack.

That's Jack. I'm the real J-Mack, baby. That's Jack. That's right, baby. Like that, I won't even say it. But put Lily on Hubey Halloween, bro. Hubey Halloween. This is Hubey season right now.

It's a QB season. I love Hubey season. Oh, what? Hubey, oh, we haven't seen it. You have it. That's the next one. I have it. Oh, got to throw that on for a little.

Hubey Dubois. Shout out of the same, man. Yeah, it's awesome. Goaded one. Got to watch it. Speaking of football, we're talking, it's a QB-D-driven league. We're all talking QBs all the time.

But here's a little brain teaser for you, Jules. If you could start a franchise right now with any non-QB, who would it be? Ooh. Any non-QB. That's a great question, Jack. Who would it be? Shout out to Mitchie Pop. Mitchie Pop and I workshop that one.

Position or player? Player. Player. The position is also very much a part of that. I might have to go with Tristan Worf's or Pene Sewell. I like that. Tackle. Tackle guard.

In the trenches. I mean, Joe Alt, when he was healthy, he was looking pretty good. Campbell was looking pretty good. He's still a little young for me to, like, say if I would start, but, like, I like the tackle. I'm with you. What about one of the D-Ns?

D-Ns, too, but game record guy. I like Miles. Boas. Watt. T.J. Hutchinson? Hutch. I mean, there's a bunch of guys,

but I would go O-line because you got to get a quarterback. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you there. That's a great. question yeah i'm trying to think who i would because like in years past you might say like a bill cow back but like there's no one right now that not anymore i know we're in a different that's like the last piece you want to add to your team is a running i know but this day and age you

know what i mean but like there was an era where you do you immediately i could see going wide receiver too yeah chase jefferson marr but then you look at i don't i mean the darn rock look at you know what i mean yeah i don't know i'll go inside out they got flacco now though they got flacco he's elite did you see that? See that? Joe Flacco traded to the Bengals. Did he?

Yeah. This is kind of current. We're a week away. We're a week off. That's big. I like that. I like that move. Winston would be more fun.

I said, but I don't know. I guess. James Winston would be more fun, but this is interesting. It makes Bengals games. It makes you want to watch a Bengals game. Joe Flacco is probably happy.

He's like, damn. But he's probably not happy because he's been getting hit already. He don't want to get hit no more. He's 40. Hey, at least he's rested up.

He's been sitting out of last week. Yeah. and throwing some good ass dudes. He really does. This is probably the best receivers he's ever thrown to. Honestly. I was rooting for the James, the fun, but. The Ravens fans keep taking L's this year.

What if he goes in and beats the Ravens? And then sides with the Steelers? Just the AFC North guy. My guy's been on some teams now. He's been around, bro. Yeah. I mean, I was just, we were just talking about it. I mean, it was only last year.

Didn't he bring the Indianapolis Colts to the playoffs? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Last year. Like, that's how, you know what I mean? Like, wow, that's crazy. Which is crazy to think. He's done that a couple things. He brought the Cleveland Browns as a playoffs.

You got that like the, maybe flack will go in there and hold the ship. Ravens, Broncos, Jets, Eagles, Jets again, Browns, Colts, Browns again, Bengals. I mean, we're putting up Luke McAllen numbers right now. Putting up Fitzmagic numbers. The double up is, uh, yeah, but you know what? He's got a Super Bowl. He's got a ring. Yeah.

He's got a ring. And something. He's hanging down the shore. He's got a ring. Is he elite? There's something about that spiral. He was elite. Something about that flacko.

Somebody check on Stavvy right now. He might be on suicide watch. I know. We got to check it. I can't wait to see what he says about it. Because Fidelberg was in here talking about one of the best days in Boston sports history. Jules, can you give us your perfect Boston day? Perfect Boston Day.

Last question. I love, when I was younger, the same Patty's days were always awesome. Elite. Yep. You don't know. Throw on a Paul Pierce jersey, no shirt underneath it. No, because you would start off at a Red Sox game or something. Isn't it?

No, it's March 17th. March? Yeah, it would be baseball. No. What is opening day? What's that weekend? Usually the first week of April. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

So the opening day weekend, because you have marathon too. Marathons later. I have some of them are overlapping. Isn't there one day where I remember going to like, you can get overlapy in April. For sure. I like spring. Yeah. You're thinking marathon money.

versus St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, maybe Marathon Monday where you get Marathon Monday, Celtics, you get a socks game. That's fun. Sox game early. Yeah. Yeah. And then you could get some self,

you could get some playoff hockey. I was like those overlapy ones. Or like, we had a fun Halloween where we won. We on a Thursday. Got to go to a Celtics game. Gary Clark Jr. concert with my friends.

had like Saturday off and it was Chris who wasn't hot Answer this question It's either fall or spring day With sporting event Answer this question like your perfect Philly day That you have That's right

Like that. Oh like that Yeah Oh perfect Boston day Like Philly Day is like Cheese steak right Watching Rocky Perfect day in Boston

You wake up You take the skateboard through the commons. Common. You don't know Boston at all, bro. What? It's the Boston Common, not commons. Well, I go to the Rose Garden anyways, so I don't even go to that part.

I was called it the Central Park type spot. I go to, I go to, what is it, duck pond? Yeah, yeah, where the ducks are. But the garden, I like the gardens better. Yeah, no, they up here. Rip through the gardens. Yeah, yeah. Go down, check out Paramount, see how long the line is, maybe get an omelet.

If not, just keep it. go on, maybe hit Tate. Yeah, baby. Not Duncan? Jules, you're butchering. Charles, baby. Down, Joe. It's so easy and you're butchering this. No, I'm not done yet. Keep doing. Because I go there for the Shukha. I'm talking food right now. Yeah, yeah. You gotta get a good basin.

And then I take it down. Probably go down to the north end, check out my boys over at DeMonica. So I'm on skateboard still. So like I can do that route. You go through like downtown, take a look at like World's Greatest Bar, take a peek. And then you, Keep going. Hit it in the north end. Go back roads, though. You take back roads to hand over so you can hit it from the back. Nice. And then check out the baseball fields.

See what the kids are doing out there. Anyone hitting bombs? No, all right. Then keep going. You always go by the hockey rink there, too. You know what I mean? There's the hockey rink and then the baseball fields on the back end. And find, like, maybe a little, like, dark alley to, you know,

maybe hit a little devil's lettuce or something. something late. You know, maybe while you're looking at, you know, the harbor. Because you know that, what's that one spot?

That one brunch spot. It's the American spot. Right there in the water and like the backside of North End. There's one on, there's a place also on Newberry. Oh, is it Trident?

No. Joe's, yeah, there's a Joe's. So there's a bunch of, there's a little area you can go right there, which is weird. where you there's like one of those little out like you can go out and look at the bay like by

the how like their little residential and stuff there's like a couple you go over there and you come back need a little pick me up that's when I go from I'll skate because these are electric skateboard so I'm not like skating you know but that's when I'll go from there and then I'll hit seaport area and that's the dunkin you hit you hit the dunkin in the seaport right across right next to the convention center while you're about to go check out Del Frisco's Legal's

because, you know, if it's you know, maybe a spring, summer day Legals be popping. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Be popping. At least this is back in my day. Yeah. Then I'm taking that electric skateboard.

I'm pumping by Grand Scorpion Bar just to say hi to L. Ed Cain. What's oh? Hey, Ed, Ed, what's up? Got a check in. Check in. And then that's when you dip over to Southie.

Yeah, baby. Okay, that's the South the lot. The place is packed. It's like, what the hell is going on out here? You drive by freaking local, Capo, Lincoln. Places just obliterated. Probably drop into Capo. See pasta.

Oh, we saw pasta at Capo. Always saw him. And bop out of there, go back to the back bay. go down Newberry at dark though when no one's there so you can go against traffic on the skateboard

cool cruise there and give a little head nod to where Daisy Buchanan's used to be because that was a fun spot RIP RIP RIP

RIP and drive over go all the way down to about Sonsi and then just bring it back to the crib that's kind of what I do that's a nice relaxing day

skateboards just always peeping neighborhoods go down on Hanover go Seaport it's such a drivable easy small city you know what I mean so you can hit all the areas yeah I'm not mad jewels I'm just disappointed disappointed in that

what you're talking about that's my skateboard chill day I like that day like what do you want to go to the socks game and then you know you go there it's not relaxing it's not relaxing gotta be on gotta be on glad hand any of you taking pictures

not even that No, no, no, no, this is like... Bring in my glove. I'm got to be focused. Catch a foul ball. Make it your Boston card revoked when this comes out. Let me sneak one more question in. Best Halloween costume of all time that you've ever rocked.

When I was like six years old, I had a Rambo on. That's tight. I had a Rambo. Do you have a picture that? I think my mom might have one where I had like a rubber. Shout out John Rainbow. I had a rubber like six-pack chest when I was like six. And you had like a...

ripped shirt blood on it at roosevelt school fucking had black curly hair wig with like my freaking red bandana tied and i'm over here doing that the whole time fully brought gun and bullets to school not like real ones but like you know like the fit like you can't even do that now but i had like a full m16 like what's up shooting kids at school like it was that's how crazy different it was back in the 90s. I was in first grade. This is like 90, what, 6, 7? It's like 93. It's like 93.

But yeah, man, to think. It's a hell of a costume. I was a little turtle one time. I love Ninja Turtles. God. Which one? Raphael. Bad attitude.

He's what? Bad attitude. Orange? Red. He's red. Michelangelo's orange, dude. Who's blue? Leonardo.

Leonardo's blue. Donatello was purple. I like John's. I used to call Nate Ebder or Casey Jones. He made like Casey Jones. long hair. I liked that he had hockey stick in a hockey mask. Yeah.

I like that. Of course you did. Or cricket bat in a hockey mask, right? I don't remember. Could have been a hockey. Yeah, it could have been one of the, I think he had a goalie mask and a cricket bat.

I'm going to find out. It was still pretty badass. But whatever, it was. It was. Hockey hit hockey stick. Yeah, hockey stick, dude. But no, but he also had. You don't even know Puck.

He also had, you don't know Puck. Puckhead, Buckhead. He doesn't know Puckhead. What the fuck? Well, that was. was a chill zone thanks to our Boston Commons and you went to get Tate what are you talking about two good spots anyway two good spots oh that was awesome you went to seaport oh my god yeah bro I remember when that was just straight it was when it was like a place you jumped the body yeah

yeah I remember I used to go there before and then when it got developed it was like every time you're on the skateboard you see a new building I used to hit that wagga mama over there like it was my job bro they remember they had the straga out there before it was all even there oh I forgot about that too Wow. The original, like, the second Strega, the Seaport Strega, it was before all the buildings were there, Strega was there. They playing their flag early, early. Remember one time me and my friend wanted to go to Legal Seafoods, we like typed

in legal seafood. It's like the first year of like Google Maps and it took us to the legal seafood like dock. Yeah. In the fucking sea port, which was just like, we're going to get murdered out. Like, we're like barely legal seafood. Sorry. We see. And they used to go to Harpoon Fest out there too.

Yeah. That area. That was fun. Hoppoon. Now I got the damn Red Bull flips over there I used to hang out over on K Street Because one of my buddies, Jimmy He lived over in Southie

But it was originally It was before all the young professionals came It was like still the Southie people Yeah yeah It was like in the heat of when they were all selling They were all making hell of money All these kids Damn

But yeah that was the chill zone Thanks to our favorite beer Coors Light Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door Visit Coorslight.com slash GwN and celebrate responsibility. So Casey Jones used a lot of sporting goods as his weapons. He had bat with a spike?

Mostly hockey sticks. He would use a sledgehammer baseball bat, a cricket, a cricket stick bat too. Man, I did sporting good in his bag. Yeah, Big Five. The big Casey Jones, you better Watch your speed. Oh, man. Yeah, that was awesome. What an episode.

What an episode. Fateful Dead. Shout out Dead, baby. Deadhead. Well, what a game. That was fun to go back down that the little wormhole of that game. 2013 what a year that was a kickoff to the

when it all started I thought it was bowling thanks again to Fidelberg thanks again to Fidelberg for bringing it up Ball Knower Ball Knower BK,

EBK is a ball those people they love the sports over there at the bar stool They really do They're in it They do It's in their name

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