Games with Names - Free Agent Frenzy

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

We've got ourselves a free agent frenzy today! From all the recent signings in New England to what's going on around the league, we're breaking down all the biggest moves. We also talk brackets, what the guys have been up to, and even introduce a brand new segment. We wrap up by naming our Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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87 is my number. Yeah, same. Jules, what if Drew Bledsoe came out of retirement? Would you give up number 11 then? What year my career? 2016. Nope. Right in your prime.

No. The squirrel, the antelope just running all over the field. Come on Bledsoe, I know it. Scoring touchdowns. It's Drew Bledsoe though. I know that's tough. We always had a thing because he'd come in a locker room after games. And he always like be rooting for me even when I wasn't playing this stuff.

He was cool. I'd probably give it to him. It's true. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. And I'm Rob Gronkowski, AKA The Gronk. And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And Jules, what are we talking about today?

It's free agent frenzy, so I think we gotta break down some of the moves that are going around. You know, the Patriots giving away the richest contract in franchise history, more money than Tom Brady ever got per year. The current state of the 49ers. Could it be a transition year? We'll talk about it.

And maybe a little Aaron Rodgers talk. Where's he going to go? There's a couple of suitors out there still available for him. And then we wrap up the show with the Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. And you gotta stick around till the end. Let's go. Let's get into it, Jules. Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio. But first, let's have a little chit chat at what's going on with our lives right now. We'll get into the free agency in a little bit. But I just, I just got off my phone and I see you're over at the players

championship. Yes. The players championship, which is basically a fifth major right now. I'm at my home. Major is the highest paid one, right? It's the highest pain. Yes, it is one of the highest paid, but it's technically not a major, but they call it the fifth major. It's the players championship.

I actually really didn't know too much about it because I'm just a little into golf. I'm not like a crazy fan like that. I appreciate what they do, but I learned a lot while I was there. I learned a lot about the majors, how the players championship wasn't a major, but it is like a major because it's the highest paid

and all the big time players still play there and they treat it like that, but technically it's not a major. So I learned that. But what was really cool about it is I got the caddy for Will Zolotouris for two holes. And then also I did a 30 minute, you know, coaching session where I got coached at the driving range by Jordan Spieth. You know, he, you know, taught me some tips, taught me, you know, what to do so I can keep the ball going straight, you know. You hit any bombs? I hit some bombs, you know,

I was hitting a couple of shanks. What club were you swinging? So we started with the driver, then we did the nine iron as well. And then we also did a pitching wedge. So that was really cool. And shout out real quick to Willie Z. He looks like Happy Gilmore's caddy, you know, in Happy Gilmore. But unfortunately,

he's a game of names fan. And he's a games with names fan. Great dude. Loved him. Had a great time with him. It was just so fun being his caddy. You know, really cool times, man. I appreciate all those guys welcoming me. Man. Rory, he got to be Rory and all the boys, huh? I got to meet Rory Shane. How tough was that 17th hole? Shane Laurie, I got to meet who I said looked like exactly like Travis Kelsey. He could have been the Kelsey's third brother, no doubt about that.

And he's kind of Jack, too. So he fits right in with them. But the 17th hole was really cool, man. First off, TPC, one of the most beautiful golf courses I've ever seen in my life. Actually, it's the most beautiful golf course I've ever seen in my life. I love that grass. It's just crystal clear green. It just sticks out and like just makes your eyes happy, makes you happy just looking at it, just hanging out on that grass. I want all my backyards one day to look like, you know, the TPC golf course. You gotta get drunk to the Augusta.

You gotta get drunk to Augusta. If he's calling, I mean, player champion, that's a beautiful course, but you gotta see the other, the other courses, Rob. We got it. We got to we got to get you to Pebble Beach. Sight like there's a bunch of places that are so beautiful and then we throw you across the pond and put you over and fucking like Ireland or Scotland and see some of those beautiful courses. You'd appreciate it.

I would. I mean, I appreciate it. TPC. So I'm sure I would appreciate all. I would. I mean, I appreciated TPC, so I'm sure I would appreciate all those other courses. And what my favorite part was when I was a caddy for Will is obviously, I talk about it all the time, Happy Gilmore is my favorite movie. So I put the caddy uniform on and I handed Will his club, you know, to use.

It was the driver, because it was a par five in the first hole that we did. And then the crowd wasn't loud enough because I got a little bit of round of applause for being the caddy when I handed the driver over to Will. And I turned around and I was like, that wasn't loud enough, louder, louder folks. And then I started doing raise the roof

and I turned up the whole entire place right on the 16th hole, right before the 17th hole. And that was one of the coolest moments because I felt like I was in the movie Happy Gilmore. I felt like Happy Gilmore at that time. And it's gonna be coming out, you know, it's already out actually. So check it out.

It's just awesome. I love it. Thank you to PGA Tour for having me as well. Did you try to hand him a 69 degree wedge? No, Jules, I didn't think about that. But now when we play, we better use that 69 degree wedge. That could be used real well in the sand. It could be.

Yeah, right next to the water where it's all wet, you definitely need that 69 degree wedge then, to be able to handle that shot. Gotta be able to get under that thing, you know what I mean able to handle that shot. Got to be able to get under that thing. You know what I mean? Got to go under it. So did you have any caddy strategy or did you just it was just like he's just like happy to have you there. He knew everything.

You say, hey, man, the whole if you look at over here, you see the ocean comes from this way. So I know it looks like it's downhill pup, but it's uphill because the grain and the ocean, pull it this way. I can see Rob giving some insight like that. I actually was given insight like that. I pretended I knew the wind speed.

I was doing that, testing out the wind. I told him exactly where to hit it, to the right more. I handed him the driver, then I handed him an iron. I told him exactly where to hit it to the right more. I handed him the driver. Then I handed him a, I'm in iron. I gave him the wrong iron. I gave him a, I think like a nine iron when he really only needed like a six iron, but it didn't matter because he had to listen to me the whole entire time and he was going along with him. You gave him a nine iron when he wanted it. So it was a 200 yard and you gave him a nine iron. Yeah, nine iron. I thought a nine iron. I even, I was trying to even coach him through.

I go, here you go, here's a nine iron because this nine iron is for you, Will. This nine iron is between 190 and 220 yards. And he was just laughing to himself. You know, he didn't even correct me. And I gave him the nine iron and he's such a pro that he could obviously adjust his shot, you know, depending on what club he has and how far it is.

I mean, he can use a nine iron even though it's only 180 yards away still. I mean, he knows what he's doing. And he had a great shot. How unbelievable is watching those guys just swing and stick those shots? They just make it look so effortless and you gotta appreciate that.

And that's what makes it so intriguing as well. Just, they're just so consistent and it just looks so easy to them. It's kind of like watching you run a route, you know, back in your heyday, Jules. When I always just looked over, I'm like, that's just too easy for Jules. It's like he's not even trying. Well, it's the same thing with that, ma'am. It's all about consistency, too. They're just doing it at a repetition that you have to do that in order to stay

at top of your game. I mean, there it was the practice rounds. It was just Tuesday I was there and it was just a practice rounds there and they're taking, I don't know, 200, 300 hacks. They're at the driving range before they, you know, go around the course and take their practice rounds. So 200, 300 hacks on just a practice day, a day or two before the actual tournament. So it just shows no matter what sport you are in basketball football Golf, you know, it's all about repetition and doing it on a daily basis. So you keep your skills to the highest level

practice execution becomes game reality and The reality of it right now is that it's March. And what does March mean? March means March madness, baby. Are you watching this? Are we getting a bracket? We're getting a a Nuthouse bracket? I think we do need a Nuthouse bracket.

We got enough people to be able to make it exciting. We got about eight people in our crew. We did the nut house fantasy, uh, football. And let me tell you that went terrible, but this is like my redemption. I went, I got in last place on the fantasy football side, but I'm going to get some redemption here, man. I love college basketball. There's not as much focus as fantasy football because fantasy football is 18 weeks long.

This is like two weeks long, you just fill out a bracket and then you just see it just do its own thing. So I can put all my attention to it for an hour, Jules, and fill out a great bracket and make up for my fantasy football loss. What's your, what's your first thought going in? Like, what are your teams? Are you watching Arizona every time the tournament happens? Or have you been watching college basketball at all right now?

I really haven't watched any college basketball, but I'm a college. I'm a bit, it is hard, man. We got so much going on and I'm a big college basketball fan, but it's like the NHL playoffs. It's like the NBA playoffs. I don't miss it. You know, when the March madness comes around, it's basically college basketball playoffs.

It's must-see TV, it's must-see sports. So I tune in every time during March madness and it's so easy to catch up on who's the best team. You know, the number one seeds. I mean, you just study that, you know, study the teams for about an hour. You study the brackets for about an hour and boom, you're right into it. And you understand everything that's going on. So I'm going to fill myself in and about the next week, fill out a bracket and,

uh, you know, give it my best shot against all the Nuthouse crew. Who's your team and who do you got winning? Jules? I don't know. I haven't, I haven't studied it yet. And we got to study it here because we're launching this thing here soon. Did I always look? I hope I need Kent to win the Mac tournament.

They make it unless if they will they only get in. Yeah, probably. And then the crazy thing is that Cooper flag injury. Do you see that the ankle? No, probably. And then the crazy thing is that Cooper flag injury. Did you see that? The ankle roll? Nah, what happened? What's going on with Cooper? He's leading there easily. He's like the, he's a freshman doing all these crazy, he's a monster. He's from Maine.

Where is he from? Maine? He's from, yeah, Maine. We talked about it with Scalabrini. This kid's like, supposed to be the legitest dude of all time. On Duke, ankle hurt it. about it with Scalabrini. This kid's like supposed to be the legitest dude of all time. On Duke, ankle hurt it now. So that'll suck if he doesn't get to play. We have a shot at Kent though.

We do have a shot, 21 and 10. Does Kent State have to win the Mac tournament in order to get a bid into the tournament? Not that educated on it. Not that educated on it, but winning the Mac tournament in order to get a bid into the tournament. Not that educated on it. Not that educated on it, but winning the Mac tournament, you're probably in. They always seem to get in and they always when they'll make they make some noise here and there.

Kent State basketball always making noise. Still talking about it like it was yesterday. The Elite Eight run with Antonio Gates. He went to school like five years before me and I used like last year whenever I would tell it like yeah we went to the Elite Eight last year I used that for like 10 years. Well Jules if the Kent State Golden flashes don't make the tournament you got a route for Arizona with me to make a run. I always do. I'm a big Arizona basketball fan.

Love their head coach. Great guy, great dude. Hung out with him a few times, man. Great down to earth man. And he just gets after his players. He coaches them hard and that's why they always have a winning organization there and a winning team. So I'm a big fan of Arizona basketball just overall

and I'll be rooting you know for them you know deep down and hopefully they go all the way this year. They had a couple chances over the last two years and Tommy Lloyd he's got this team rocking and rolling once again and hopefully they play their best ball in March Madness when it comes around. So let's go. Arizona Wildcats will be watching you. Yeah, you know, I. Anytime I've always filled out a bracket, I'm always very biased towards Pac 10 schools because I grew up in the, you know, on the West Coast

and I grew up around Berkeley and Stanford and watching Oregon, all the all the Pac 10 school. So I'm very Pac 10 bias on my brackets. So does that mean I got to go big 10 bias now? Like I'll go the Pac 10 guy teams in the big 10. That's usually how I'll formulate how I'm going to pick my bracket. So I have like minutes to do it by now. But yeah, March Madness is always fun. Wake up in the morning. There's games all day.

You're taking a dump. You're looking at your phone. Someone just fucking upset someone. You're like, how is there a game on right now? Like March Madness is literally madness. And you pray for a Cinderella team every single year. It's so cool when you see like a 14th seed, you know, team be a number three seed team. Like those upsets is what makes March Madness.

You just love every moment of that. And then also a player that's never been heard before turns into like a superstar just overnight because of March Madness. That's what it's all about. It's not about, you know, watching the number one seeds dominate and number 16 seed and winning it all. It's about the whole process of March Madness, you know, underdog winning. of March Madness, you know, underdog winning.

I remember watching Steph Curry at Davidson fucking balling during March Madness. I think what year was that? I think I don't know if I was in the league or in college, but. Yeah, speaking of Steph Curry, he's actually the new assistant GM at Davidson Basketball. I don't know how he's going to do that while he's playing for the Golden State, you know, Warriors, you know, in the NBA, but he's the new GM, assistant GM at Davidson.

I mean, you got to have a GM now because of the NIL. It's pretty wild. It's basically treated like, you know, a pro team. So you got to have a GM, you got to have a head coach, you got to be able to have someone that has the financials as well. That's crazy. And they got Curry as assistant GM, which is pretty cool. I think he's making history as like the first active player to do that in any pro sport.

So, you know, that's really cool. Shout out to Davison for doing that. Shout out to Jack as well. Jack, my man. So yeah, that's what's going on. That's what's going on with him. That's gnarly. But yeah, March Madness, it all started in March Madness.

Now he's the first active player GM for a college, which is if you told us that 10 years ago, you'd be what the fuck you talking about? I don't know. But let's get back to football It's the new year of football. It's officially in the books. What's that March 1 or something March 5 free agency? Craziness has been going around. Have you been watching some of these deals? Do you have a New Year's NFL New Year's kiss, Rob? I haven't watched any of the deals on, what was it, Monday? I was busy a little bit, but then I caught up with everyone and everything about Free Agency that's going on

and boom, let me tell you, it's like, woo, a new shocker right to your face. Like your eyes just opened wide because of just so many deals that happened, you know, especially if you're not checking your phone every minute because there was a new deal every five minutes. So then if you didn't see what was going on all day, like you're sitting there for an hour,

like I was Monday night, just checking out all the deals that were going down. And it's just so fun to catch up. And what's so crazy about the NFL is that they made it a 24 seven, 365 days year round process now. They made it so you're intrigued at all times. I mean, no one really talks about the Philadelphia Eagles winning the Super Bowl anymore. It's all about your team now going forward into the 2025 season and having so much hope

for them and talking about the trades and why they're going to be good and talking about the guy that you got in free agency. And that's why you're going to win the Superbowl this year. So the NFL is doing such a superior job at keeping the fans engaged all year around. And you got to give a shout out to the NFL for doing that, man. I mean, look, it free agency happened and now they're already talking about the draft. I mean, the draft, I mean, hold on, everyone's not even signed yet and we're talking about the draft still. Like that's how crazy it is and how intriguing it is as well. Then after the draft we'll talk about OTAs and mini camps.

Then after mini camps we'll talk about, oh, training camp. There'll be a couple of rests in between. No, no, no, after mini camp, you talk about all the guys getting in trouble between OTAs and training camp. So that's like the dead period. That's when you don't wanna be in the news, Jules, is that period right there.

That's the dead period and it's slow for everyone. If you're in the news, that's no good. So shout out to all you young football players. There's a high risk part of like when you're going to get arrested. It's usually when you're away from the facility. That break after many camp to training camp, dial it back, have an Uber, don't hit your girl. No guns.

Let's get started to free agency. That's some good advice right there. Yes. Listen to it, young bucks. Listen to Jules. Get an Uber. Don't hit your girl. No guns. KSA, especially right after fucking mini camp to Especially training camp. That's like that's the window where the the numbers are out

I mean, you're they're probably hearing it right now from a rookie Advisor like yeah, you hear about this stuff all the time and you could say I'm not gonna be that idiot Why was that it we've all been that idiot? So one more guy to reiterate to younger guys just call a Uber or call a lift or have your buddy that stays sober Drive you and pick you up Yeah, or and

You know Arguments walk out the room, OK? Pistol in a certain state, not going to happen. OK, we don't don't try to bring it onto a fucking plane. Little, little common sense shit. Goes a little common sense shit. It goes a long, long way it sure if you have to think about it don't do it if you like if you're sitting there like man if this I don't know if the don't do it and I'm preaching to myself we'll be right back

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They signed some, they've been spending that Gouda. They had the most money in free agency this year and They were talking about spending and they went out and spent it got Milton Williams D tackle from from the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles I'm gonna make that deal from the Super Bowl champion, Philadelphia Eagles. I mean, Philadelphia Eagles. Well, the Eagles wanted to keep them, but they just didn't have the cap space and they already have just so many dominant players

on their defensive line that are young bucks that they're gonna eventually have to pay. So they had to let Milton Williams go. And the Patriots gave him the most richest contract in Patriots history. I mean, what is it? A four year, like a hundred million dollar deal. I think it's a good deal.

It's not like they overpaid. I think it was very fair. He's a great player. He's gonna make a difference on that line. And you have to spend it. And he always build the team through the trenches. Okay. This is a splash.

I don't know what kind of guy he is, but I'm sure they did their homework. You got a guy like Vrabes there. He knows what winnings like this. This Williams country. This is awesome. The team needed that. Like, and the money that's not even like, you can't address the month. Cause no one's really been paid a big contract with the Patriots since Tom.

And that was like eight, 10 years ago, which, so those numbers aren't going to be high. So like him going in, having the richest contract in Patriot history, that's just due to the numbers and what the league is now from when we gave a big contract out to another guy. Would you agree? I agree with you, man. And if you ask me as well, do I think Bill would have made that deal?

Yes, I do. Especially if he was in that situation with that much cap space and he needed a defense alignment. Well, especially a defense alignment he would have paid because it's a defensive guy and he loves bringing in those defensive guys and paying them as well. So I think Bill would have 100% made a move like this as well in this situation with that much cap space. It just overall, the fans wanted to see the Patriots spend too. They didn't want to see them

sit back, relax and hopefully a guy falls into their lap for you know a good deal No, they went out they spent and the Patriot fans appreciated it, too Because they want to see those type of guys out on the field They want to see a winning formula and I feel like they're on the right You know projectory and going in the right direction right now with all these moves that they made. I wish they got more linemen Direction right now with all these moves that they made. I wish they got more linemen Like the center like look at da just retired or I got cut So, you know you wish him would have what a great career nine ten seasons with us I remember when he was a young pup eight time captain two Super Bowls

Like he's a stud What what was the lineman that went? I think the Atlanta Falcons to the Chicago Bears. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that who we're talking about? I don't know his name, but I saw that guy. He went from the Falcons to the Bears. Regardless.

The Patriots needed to grab him, especially if they knew. That's one guy the Patriots missed out on was the center from the Falcons who the Chicago Bears picked up They should have paid him whatever you want. They got to me as well The like the Bears had a they've they've picked up like I know to knees probably gonna be expensive But he's on the other side of 30

but Drew Dorman Like we coulda they could have got like there's been a lot of money given To players that they need like they got Morgan Moses, but he's he's kind of an older guy You know in in you know three years 24 mil 11 guaranteed He's he's just there probably for veteran presence and to swing and probably try to help someone that they bring in I mean they're gonna need them try to help someone that they bring in.

I mean, they're going to need them. They need line more line. I love I love the I like the Carlton Davis signing. I think the Patriots now have to like legit lockdown corners. Like, I think Carlton Davis is a number two behind Gonzo. Like they're going to do a lot. You get inside pressure with Milton, the signing of Landry on the outside He's he's a good football player plays hard has some has some experience with variable in variable system So like I love what they're doing on defense offense. I just need I want to protect the kid more

I don't know what they're gonna do in the draft So like I don't have any I haven't been talking to anyone. But like love that they need to protect. They got to protect them. More line. Let's get more line. You know what I mean? Look at these teams that have the best the best teams in the league right now have have line. We need to get we need to still go out and get a star wide receiver. I mean, that might be the draft.

I like the Mac Collins or I like Mac Collins, though. I like that sign. He's a good pickup because he's great at special teams and special teams a key factor, especially with Mike Vrabel being in charge. That's always been a Patriots tradition. I like him because they have a young football room. They have a young receiver room with a bunch of younger talent in there specifically right now.

Matt Collins, he's a professional. Like he's got a bunch of antics where he does the barefoot stuff in public and dresses like this. But I've heard he's like, I know him. He's a hardworking dude. He's mature. He has his public persona of what he is, but he gets a bad rap for that.

But he's a professional. Like when he's at work, he's a bad rap for that, but he's a professional like when he when he's at work He's a pro so them having a professional in that room I think it's gonna be big cuz he's coming from a winning program. He's coming from the big dogs He's been around the league on a bunch of teams. So I like the Mack Hollins Signing When was the last time you were barefoot in public jewels? I used to do the grounding number after practice I in like spring I would ground I'm a believer in that

Because I think that's why he started it He grounded like we were doing that like ten years ago fifteen years ago You ground after practice because they were doing in the EPL member English Premier League We get we had a John Sullivan sport scientist that we used to have the Patriots. He was over big with the EPL English Premier League sports scientists and they used to ground the soccer players after a long running session because it helps you balance or something. So we all started doing it. Remember?

I do. I believe in it, man. I like it if you definitely want something. So we all started doing it, remember? I do. I believe in it, man. I like it if you definitely want to reset your body as well. Your rhythmic, you know, your rhythmic circulation, or what is it, rhythmic? Rhythmatic? What's the second word? Yeah, rhythmic, rhythmic, oh my gosh,

it's a difficult word to say. Rhythmatic circulation? Yeah, rhythmic circulation. It puts you back on the normal sleep schedule that you're supposed to be back on. So grounding helps out big time. And you saw Mac Hollins dress up as a Muppet last year too when he was on the Buffalo Bills.

You think he should dress up as one, you know, or what Muppet should he dress up as this year, Jules now being on the Patriots? You think that will be fly, you know, being with Rable or or what? I mean if they're winning and and he's producing I think that's gonna be the the key like all that stuff like when you're on a winning football team all that stuff works you know I don't know it's a little different if you're not winning,

you're not producing, you're not playing, and you do that stuff. So I think a lot of that is situational for and depending on each player, each different team. That's all situational to me. And then going back to their free agency, they picked up outside linebacker Harold Landry, three years, 45 million.

He's a variable guy from Tennessee. He's a pass rusher and that's what the Patriots needed. Last year was a, was a pass rusher to get to the quarterback and put pressure on the quarterback. So their defense is looking strong. They went out, they took care of what, you know, of the positions they needed to, to take care of on the defensive side. They're going to be very solid and you know variables D might be looking like you know the type of defense is Belichick had back in the day

as well. You know you got to earn it you know you got to beat the guys to you know you know get first downs and touchdowns so that was a good sign in there but we need guys on the offensive side of the ball. We don't know there is that game plan but we need some more linemen and we need some more skilled players out there for Drake May. And then I feel like the Patriots will compete where they really need to compete. They'll be at that level. Free agency is not over yet. There's some receivers out there as well. They can make some trades, but go out there, get some linemen, get a playmaker as well.

And then I think they'll be set. And I drink, think drink may will take off, you know, to the level that he needs to in his second year. I think everyone also has to take a second and, and be reminded that free agency. And it is kind of like foos gold, you know, fool's gold where, you know, like, we're a little off today. Jules, what are pronunciations? But it's okay.

It was gold. Fool's gold. Fool's gold. Like, because if these guys, like, if you're going to free agency and if you're that great of a player there's a reason why the team is not signing you I like your direction you're going right now keep going keep going I just think that like you always there's a lot of free agents that get paid a lot of money to go beat a hole filler at you

know another team that does a different thing that has a different identity the different scheme that there's like more cases that they don't work out than they when they do work out. You know, there's cases where they do work out. Look at, you know, Kansas City with, you know, revamping that offensive line five years ago with Tooney drafting. They revamp that through the help of developing their team through guys in the draft and bringing in guys. So I think that like free agencies, like you're not gonna make your team the best as possible. You're not gonna win a Superbowl over free agency.

I think you put your team, the best teams that we were always a part of, we'd bring free agents in, but we built our team through the draft. And you got to develop your players. So these guys are good players that can come in at the last part of you trying to become the team you want to be. But to be and grow a foundational team, that's why I think free agencies fool's gold.

You understand? Am I making any sense? And you're making total sense to me, Jules. I totally understand where you're going with that. Cause like, look at our teams. You look at our teams. We won because of all the guys that we drafted. That Bill drafted.

It was all core guys. You gotta have that core base of, you know, within your team, the solid base of guys that have been there that been through the rigor that have been together for a couple years You know four or five six years together And then you bring in other guys just to just fill in the bits and pieces look at the Philadelphia Eagles They have those core guys. That's why they were champions this year the Kansas City Chiefs They have all those core guys. Those are the best teams. Every once in a while, you see a team progress, you know, from like last to first because of free agency, but you barely see that ever happen. So it's like fool's gold. Like you said, it's like trickery, they go out and they get all these players and they think they're going to be great. And then boom, it just never happens because they don't have that solid foundation still like you were just talking about.

Look at the dream team when they had with the Philadelphia Eagles back in like 2000, what 13 it was. They're like, oh, this team's going to the Super Bowl. They went like, I don't know. I just know they didn't have a winning record, didn't even make the playoffs, and everyone was hyping them up because of free agency. So so I 100 percent.

This is just a reminder. Like these are exciting times and these are awesome players that are coming to your team. But this isn't that this isn't going to make your team that yet. Now that has to come through foundational building through like the GM coaching all together. And then it's kind of like putting the freaking whatever,

like the free agencies are like lights and like the star on a Christmas tree. That's not the tree. The tree is the thing that you're decorating. You know what I mean? So like it's a good star that it makes the fucking thing happen, but it ain't. It's not like you could live without it.

Like you've seen some sick Christmas trees without a fucking star. An expensive star. That's what they did from analysis right there, Jules. You hit it right on, man. That's exactly what it's like. And you're not. And you don't even celebrate Christmas and you're still hitting it right on. We do both. You are our house. Yeah, you do. Do both.

But you know what I meant? Yeah. I mean, what do you think about Joe Cardona being the last dude from our era still on the New England Patriots, Jules? And then also, what do you think it says about the new regimen? The new regimen. Well, Joe being the last one to stand in doesn't surprise me, he's a Navy man. He's a Navy man. You know what I mean?

Those guys, like he was a professional. Can't take them down. You know, like when you went to work, he was always like on time, worked his ass off, great leader by example. So like that's, I expect Joe Cardona to be one of the last guys standing. You know what I mean? Cause that's the kind of fucking guy he is.

I mean, this is the, this is, he was like one of the first guys, cause we had a couple of different Navy guys, because we had a couple different Navy guys, Eric Katani, this, that, and they couldn't like, they wouldn't allow the free agent to stay on the team because they still had to serve. He was the first one, I think, to be able to stay on an NFL team

while also being an active sailor, where they let him play the season all year, and then in the off season, he'd have to go to Newport, Rhode Island and serve while we all were on vacation, like our time off. So like all off season, he had to serve. So like, what do I think? I think it's amazing that Joe's the last guy from our our era.

And I also I expected it because he's that's kind of guy he is. The admiral. That's what we call that with the ship goes down with the fucking ship. Mm hmm. What do you think the Patriots should do with the fourth overall pick? Now that you see what they've done in free agency, does that change anything with them having number four overall? Which they should have number one overall and they would be sitting pretty, but they decided to beat the Buffalo Bills in that meaningless game. That just shows how big of a difference that win was, man. They would be

sitting pretty pretty if they had that number one pick. Joe Milton looked like a superstar. I can tell you that when he played and obviously when you start your backup quarterback, he's going to ball out. He's going to give it his all. So like that was a tough situation, but I'm just saying they would be sitting pretty right now with that. Yeah, but it's not as bad. Like it's not as bad.

As when it first happened, now looking at the draft of players we're pulling from, I guess, right now. Because they don't have, like, it's not a so-called quarterback-heavy draft. So like, there wouldn't be, if you had the one, there wouldn't be that many players that are gonna like want to trade up to that one Because that's what you honestly want to do with that one is try to trade back and collect a lot of picks at least That's what I would try to do because you have a lot of holes

This fourth pick is kind of like in that, you know, those guys are getting I don't know I don't think it's as bad as I was a little disappointed when that first happened, but I don't think it's as bad Because you can get the players you want at that for Who do I think they're gonna get I don't I don't know who they're gonna get I'd want more line now. I probably wouldn't go Travis Hunter. I probably wouldn't because Carlton Davis signing right? Yes. That's another good corner. Christian Gonzalez as well. Christian Gonzalez. They don't need a good corner.

They don't need, and is he a finished product at receiver? I don't know. You know what I mean? He's a really good defensive back that plays on offense a lot. And he played, I mean, it was remarkable to see how many plays he played a game throughout the whole season.

But I don't know if that's sustainable in the National Football League. I don't know if you could do that. And I think he's is he playing corner? No one knows what he's playing yet. I think that'll be figured out once he gets, you know, to OTA. So then, yeah, I don't know. I would probably go what is it a is it a lineman heavy draft? No. No it's not. You can't take a lineman

fourth overall that's just a reach that's too much of a reach if you're gonna take a lineman fourth overall I would trade out of it. I would trade back I would trade out of it and then take an offense lineman. It's either because there's a lot of receivers in this in this draft right? There's a lot of receivers. I think they need to trade out of it. I think they trade back either get an offense alignment the first one on the board or they take a wide receiver that's gonna be available between like 10 and 15 between which I think there's gonna be some guys there and I think there's you want more of a polished route running

Conceptual receiver for a younger quarterback than like just you know, I don't know Well, if you're talking about a more polished, you know young buck like that They got to go with take McMillan out of a University of Arizona where I went to school, baby I met the guy over here times pushing up. He's got a great he's got a great hat on. I met the guy a few times. Pushing up, look at you pushing over these. He's got a great hat on his shoulders and Gagai is athletic, man. He's athletic, he's big, he can body out defenders. And he actually went against Travis Hunter

plenty of times over his college days. And he did some work, man. I mean, they had some battles, but that just shows. Pro on pro right there. And he got open and did his thing against Travis Hunter. So I think Tate McMillan would be a very good pickup for well, if they trade back a little bit. Yeah. Right. Like 10 to 15.

See, I heard I heard Tate McMillan actually rented Rob's old house that has all the bras in the tree with this that he rented with his brothers from Arizona. So that's the only reason he's he's saying that we should pick him. That's what you're saying. Now we need to grab him and he can bring the bras with him. Yeah, no, I just want I want to protect Drake. So whatever that entails, I'm not a GM.

I don't think I have any of that kind of knowledge, but for me, whatever it takes to get protection, I think you wanna protect him before you wanna get him weapons. Let him learn how to run the offense and then start throwing some nice weapons on the outside. All right, team Matt with the number 12th pick overall after we trade back, and then we get an offense alignment

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podcasts. Well, Jules, let's get into free agency moves around the league on offense now. We just talked about the New England Patriots where they still have some void, but let's get to the other teams now and let's check out these contracts. Look at this list right now, Rob. Mm hmm. What's the first one that hits you first? Aaron Rodgers not signing with the team yet. That hits me first.

I don't think yet in free agency anyone was really overpaid. I think the market was kind of, you know, played where it was supposed to be played. For example, it wasn't like Sam Darnold went out there and became the highest paid quarterback. I think where he signed with Seattle and was paid three years, a hundred million dollars of right around 30, you know, $3 million a year. I think Baker Mayfield deal, right? Yeah. I think that was a great signing by the Seattle CS. I think that's where he fits in, you know?

I think with the market, I think some of these other teams have overpaid their quarterbacks tremendously. You know what? I gotta cut you off. All right, let's hear it. I gotta, the one thing about Sam Darnold, what did, I wanna know, what was the bottom line number that Minnesota had for him? You don't think they tried to sign him at all?

I think they they had to try to sign on, but I probably pretty sure it was like a deal where it was like, I can't take that. I'm sorry if I was the sand darnold's camp. So he went it was probably probably like 20 million a year. 20? 20, 25 million. I'll probably say 25 million. So he got seven more here.

Mm-hmm. A year. Mm-hmm. So this is a three-year deal. All right. How you think Sam Darnold's gonna do in Seattle when they just, they let go one of the, I love Najibah Smith, but they just let go of DK Medcalf.

They have a defensive minded coach who's really good on defense, but he's not an offensive guru where, you know, Minnesota has that. Like if I'm Sam Darnold and it's a three year deal, which you're basically trying to hit free agency again in a couple years, that's pretty much a two year deal right there. That's a two year deal. I would have done it for like maybe $8 million less

with the team that you know you're going to hit on. You have rapport with, you have the best receiver duo with Addison and Justin Jefferson and Hawkinson and Jones and the like, you have a really good team around you, you have a good offensive line, you have a head coach that is an offensive minded head coach that got you playing the best football you've ever played in your life. Like, I just want to that's what I questioned. What was the bottom line number that Minnesota gave? Because then I, I just, I don't know if, if, if Sam's going to be the same Sam he was in Minnesota in Seattle with what he has around him in Seattle. Sam he was in Minnesota in Seattle with what he has around him in Seattle. I think he's a little bit he's a better Geno Smith. He's a better Geno Smith but he's nothing like he's a little he's a more athletic in a younger Geno Smith. Do you even think that Minnesota even made an offer or they're like hey

I don't know that's the way I'm appreciate what you did for our organization but we're gonna go with our Young Buck, because that happens many, many times in the NFL. It's always about the up and coming Young Buck, you know, that's coming through, man. That's the NFL for you. That's just how it is. That's how business is done. So they might have not even given them an offer

and just said, hey, we're gonna let you hit free agency. They may have, but that must tell you that they must really love JJ McCarthy. Mm hmm. To have a kid that's never thrown a ball in a meaningful NFL game to let someone leave your building. Sam Darnold goes somewhere else who just was an MVP talks all the way up until week 16. Week 16 of the National Football League, MVP talks, week 16 of the NFL. Like that, that's like,

JJ McCarthy better be the guy. Well, JJ McCarthy's into grounding as well, so he may be the guy. But hear me out on this jewels. Aaron Rodgers to the Minnesota Vikings for a year or two. How does that sound? Does that make sense? Is that accurate? Would that be a good, good fit?

I don't know. I don't think so, because it's probably going to be more money than what Sam Darnold was, or if not, probably in that same ballpark. What if he's like, Hey, I'll play for 1520 million this year, I got enough money in the bank, which he sure does. Like, do they still like JJ McCarthy? Are they doing this because they don't they think JJ McCarthy is going to be good in the future? Or they don't think he's the guy? They would do that because they think JJ McCarthy is going to be good in the future. And he's also coming off an injury, so they're not sure how ready he's gonna be. He can't do it. He's basically gonna be like his rookie year again.

Then I won't do it. Then I won't do it. All right, if they think J.J. McCarthy is gonna be the future, I wouldn't do it then. I wouldn't do it because I don't think Aaron, Aaron Rodgers is, I don't think he's a type of guy that's like, let me mentor a young guy anymore.

We just, you know what I mean? Like he comes in with such an aura where he's not like, that's just not possible for like him being in the same quarterback room with the guy that's gonna be the few, like I just can't see that. That's tough for me to see. And then, you know, like, they got good things in that locker room going, and I just, you know,

Aaron's, is he gonna be there during organized team activity? Is he gonna do this? Like, there's a lot of stuff that comes along with Aaron, and they got a good thing going right now. They don't need that right now if they think this kid's a future. All right. And if they, I think if they, if, if they were going to do that, then I

think they would have kept Sam Darnold. Mm hmm. So I don't know. I don't think, I don't think, but I could be completely wrong. Watch when this thing goes down. Yep. I feel you. I understand where you're coming from because of JJ McCarthy is the future. You just want to go all in with the guy that you think is the future,

so he just can bring it all right from the beginning and just unleash him. That makes sense. Totally makes sense. And then what about that Justin Fields? So, you know, going to the New York Jets, two years, $40 dollar deal, 30 million guarantees. So basically he's going to be on the roster for the two years with the 30 million guaranteed. I mean, he reunites with former OSU teammate Garrett Wilson. And it just feels like, you know, I feel like it's the right move for Justin Fields, but at the same time, the jet starting quarterback position, it just seems like it's just cursed. It really does, man.

I mean, you got Geno Smith who was there, you had Sam Darnold who were there, and now they're booming since they've been off the roster for the Jets. Aaron Rodgers goes there. He didn't play bad at all. His numbers were pretty legit, but just overall it just seemed like

it wasn't going the right way. And now Justin Fields goes, does he break the curse? What do you think about this move, Jules? I think he's a, this is a bridge quarterback move. This is someone who, you know, the team probably likes that he didn't turn the ball over last year. And with the Steelers, he, he had a lot of growth, had a lot of improvement in his career

Or in it in his craft But who is very athletic and they kept on talking about wanting to move the pocket, right? Didn't they want to move the pocket with the Jets and be more athletic at the position? So I think he's he's a good bridge quarterback where they'll be competitive But I don't expect them to do anything good bridge quarterback where they'll be competitive. But I don't expect them to do anything. Mm hmm. You know, I mean, I think they'll be competitive. Hopefully they they I don't I don't know what that you know, I don't know what that that is.

Sounds like the Jets will be the Jets once again. Jules makes sense. Makes sense. It does. I'm not trying to say that it's like a bad signing. It's just like, what what else do they have going? Are they going to they got to build up that good defense and then have. Justin, like that's what they're going to play that formula like Steelers ball.

Mm hmm. Well, I can tell you this, if you're talking about that formula like Steelers ball and you don't know who to start, Justin Fields or or. The formula where you play really good defense Just when he was a starter not not to quarterback debate. Okay, essentially what with the formula what the Steelers have been last like since Big Ben has left like having a really good defense that takes a ball away that has explosion plays it has a quarterback that doesn't turn the ball over that will situationally run and take off.

That's kind of what they're looking, I don't know. Well, this one was intriguing to me, which I think they overpaid a little bit at this position, and it's the Indianapolis Colts signing Daniel Jones to a one year, $14 million deal. I mean, I feel like with the way that backup quarterbacks have been getting paid, I feel like it should have been like a $5 million deal. I mean, I feel like with the way that backup quarterbacks have been getting paid, I feel like it should have been like a $5 million deal with maybe incentives that can go up to 14 million, 15 million if you're to, you know, if you're the starter throughout

the year and you have playing time and you got Richardson versus Jones, that's going to be a quarterback battle in India and they were the two lowest QBRs in 2024. And I can tell you this, when you got two quarterbacks that are battling, like what they were doing with Richardson and Joe Flacco last year, if they're gonna be starting Richardson some games, if they're gonna be starting Daniel Jones some games,

when you have two quarterbacks, you actually don't have a quarterback, in my opinion. Like you don't really have a team that's gonna be centrally focused on what you're gonna do because you don't know who the guy's gonna be and it's just too much going on switching guys up and your game plans are getting switched up. So I think if Daniel Jones does beat out Richardson

then it's a fair deal. But if they brought him in to be the backup to Richardson I think think like a five million, six million, seven million dollar deal would have been more efficient, you know, for the Colts compared to all these other backup quarterbacks like Matt Jones. He got two years, seven million. Jimmy G. He got one year, four and a half, you know, the, the Pats backup quarterback, backup quarterback who they just brought in. They signed like what two years like something small. So what do you think about that situation? I want to hear your opinion. This is a last call for Richardson. This is hey, we're bringing this guy in to compete with you.

If you can't beat him out, you're not the guy if he beats you out All right. He's a good bridge quarterback until we find another guy. Let him build off that now you list off a name of guys That are backups Mac Jones two for seven this that and the other Daniel Jones has a playoff win. Daniel Jones won a playoff game. Daniel Jones. I've been such a guy that's like, Oh, Daniel Jones is, but Daniel Jones, through

being hated on in the New York media, this guy still came to work every day and was a fucking professional from what I've heard. You know, he looks the part in shorts. He knows the reads. For whatever reason, they never got it done consistently in New York and he's gone, but I do understand that 14 million, that's the going rate for a backup quarterback

that's gonna play. That's the rate the going rate for a backup quarterback. That's gonna play That's that's the rate now And if you bring in all these you talk about other guy Daniel Jones was a starting quarterback for three years got a second contract with The team regardless of what you want to say that this is what the agent is telling The team hey, Daniel Jones got a playoff when he's gonna come in compete The team. Hey, Daniel Jones got a playoff when he's going to come in and compete. This is how much he costs. So I think it's a good move because competition makes the best. This isn't going to be a two quarterback system.

This is going to be either Richardson plays or Jones plays. And if Jones plays, that means Richardson's probably on his way out. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. That's what I think. No, I like you breaking down that situation, man. It sounds appropriate, sounds right. And then also it's a fair deal if Daniel Jones does play. I was actually comparing his deal to the other deals,

but those other guys, they know they're not gonna be playing. They're true backups. Daniel Jones might be vying for the starting role at $14 million. So that does make sense. That that is what it says. It says Daniel Jones, we might need you as our starter. So if you can beat out Richardson, hey, here's 14 million dollars. You're not, that's not true backup money. True backup monies are the other contracts that we're talking about. The Colts aren't bringing him in

to just be the backup. This is that contract tells tells me they're hey, this is you coming in to compete for the job. Mm hmm. So, you know, that's what that tells me, at least from afar. Kenny Pickett going to Cleveland. Got a shout out that old little trade. Kenny Two Gloves. You think he's a future in Cleveland? Possibly. Is there a chance?

Is there a slight chance that he's a future like he was a first round pick? Had a great career in Pittsburgh, you know, at the college in Pittsburgh. And then, you know, got first round to the Pittsburgh Steelers and got traded to the Philadelphia Eagles. He knows what it takes now to win his Super Bowl. He saw Jalen Hurts did it. He was his backup this year. He has a Super Bowl ring now gets traded over Philadelphia Eagles. He knows what it takes now to win his Super Bowl. He saw Jalen Hurts did it. He was his backup this year. He has a Super Bowl ring now.

Gets traded over to Cleveland. He has a possible shot at playing this year, Jules, and starting for the Cleveland Browns. I mean, he's already got a couple starts under him. Is he the future at all? Is there a slight chance? I don't know, but when I see this, I just say, man, Hallie Roseman, look at him, that dirty dog.

Getting a fifth round pick for Kenny picket Guys like genius easy Bass in the game give him DTR. All right, we're getting DTR too. He's got some he's got some wins under his belt Mm-hmm. He sure does look at how he rose, you know, is he the it's hard to be the the the future in Cleveland Okay, so, you know, I think their future is in Tampa right now that they got rid of And that's Baker Mayfield the future that they had they got rid of so they browned it somehow and I Feel terrible for the Cleveland Browns because I went to school in Northeast, Ohio I feel terrible for the Cleveland Browns because I went to school in Northeast Ohio

And I know those people fucking they live die breed the Browns and and they're fed up with it So I feel bad for Kenny having to go into this situation Because that's gonna be a tough situation regardless and I love everyone there, you know Chatty O'Shea is there and we know our boys are it's just a tough fucking place that quarterback thing That quarterback contract put them in the grave. You know, shout out Myles Garrett, at least they got him paid and stayed there. But which of these moves you think is going to work out the best? I'm going to go with. We didn't really talk much about it.

Actually, I was gonna say Geno Smith, but he wasn't a free agent, he got traded. So he's kind of not in this category now because he was just traded. I'm gonna say Sam Darnold. You kind of brought it up that you're not sure how he's gonna to perform for the Seattle Seahawks because he knew the system in Minnesota that he should have stayed there no matter how much money they were giving him that he had, you know, the talent around

him to be the guy, you know, to shine. Are we just on quarterbacks right now? I think no, we're not just on quarterbacks. We're on everyone overall. But I do truly think that Sam Darnold will be the guy that they're looking for in Seattle. Now that Sam knows what it takes, you know, to get the job done, you know, like he did this year in Minnesota, Seattle went out and got him for a reason. They're gonna put the weapons around him that they need to and it'll be a value deal, you know, to where he will perform to the value that he's at.

League wide free agencies. I really liked Joey Bosa signing with the Buffalo Bills. I mean, I can't believe he didn't reunite with his brother in San Francisco. Like how do you not want to play with your brother on the other side of the ball, especially being two edge rushers. That would be one of the coolest things to see as just a fan, to see two brothers going, getting out to the quarterback.

Imagine just them both getting a half sack at the same time, one going high, one going low and just demolishing the quarterback. And then they get up and they're like the best brothers high at the shoulders and hips. Jules, one at the shoulders, one at the hips. That's not a penalty to them. That's what I was referring to. And then they're like the best brothers and they have some, you know, bosa dance that they do after and the crowd goes wild.

The fans go wild and every time they, you know, get a half sack together, it's like highlighted all over the place. That would just been cool to see. Yeah, but this isn't a Disney movie and the 49ers aren't a winning team. And Joey Bosa said, hey, let me go try to chase one and go to the Buffalo Bills, okay? This ain't a Disney movie, Rob.

I like that. I like that Devonte Adams going to the Rams. It is. I mean, Matthew Stafford needs that guy out there out in that field. I mean, Matthew Stafford still has it. He played at a high level last year. He's going to play at a high level this year. They got that contract situated out that he's staying now with the LA Rams. So Devonte Adams is going to shine. I mean, he got paid again, bro. I can't believe that money that he got. I was understanding like maybe like a two year, $30 million deal, but he got

paid and now Stafford can throw to Puka at any time he can throw to the Bonte Adams anytime he's got the Kyrie out of the backfield too, at the running back position. I mean, they're going to be looking nice. Sean McVeigh knows what he's doing. Yeah. This is something that they needed all last year. They struggled in like red area targets

and like guys that could win outside the numbers. You know, like having Coop and Puka, those guys, they were too much of the similar guys. They're really good at intermediate routes, shorter routes. They'll get you over the top, but they're not, they're not like, they're really good paired with a guy that can open up the top

and be a traditional X. Those guys are like F and Z's, you know what I mean? I do. Devonte Adams is an X. Like you can put him and say, hey, you go work over here. X Factor as well. X Factor.

So I think that's going to be huge for their offense. Now, did they play, did puka and Devante play or Did they play pig for the number because I know Devante got 17 and I heard puka go on to McAfee and say They had to play pig for it. So I'm just taking it that puka lost it who you lose. You lost that pig Puka you lost that pig. You lost that pig. Did he lose that pig for the number? You can't be losing that pig for the number. You can't be doing that. You got to at least be getting paid. I mean, you're a young buck. You don't

have a contract yet. Hopefully, Devante coughed up some of that money and handed it over. Yeah, you got it. You got a lot of them. A lot of those. Or maybe he's just a good guy like that. And I think Puka probably. I think Puka is. Like, you know, throughout his childhood, I mean, how do you not look up at Devontae Adams if you're a young buck wide receiver,

especially when he comes on the roster. I mean, it's easy to just hand over the jersey number because it's Devontae Adams, one of the best wide receivers to ever play the game. So, I mean, I'm sure there was some negotiations. I don't know how it truly went down. So, maybe it'll come up one day. Anyone try to get your number, Rob?

Coming out early? No one's ever tried to get my number. No, no. 87 is my number, Jules. No one's coming for it. And when I got to Tampa, there was some no-name or wide receiver with it. And I literally said, give me that number. And he was like, no problem, Crunk. Here it is. I

was like, that's right. Mofo. Hand that number over. That's mine. And the in the Tampa Bay was like the organization was like, that's right. You take control of that number. That number is yours. So I got it right away. You give him anything? Nah, it was it was a guy that I don't even think was on the team when I got there. Like he was there in the offseason, but then he wasn't there like after because that was during COVID.

I don't even know who it was, but there was someone at bottom of the roster were 87 and they just coughed it over to me. So there was no negotiations. It was nice. I'm just glad that no one legit had it at that time when I got there. Yeah. Jules, what if Drew Bledsoe came out of retirement? Would you give up number 11 then? What year my career? 2016. Nope. Right in your prime.

No. The squirrel. The owl not just running all over the field scoring touchdowns. Hey it's Drew Bledsoe though. I know that's tough. Mr. Winery. He always, we always had a thing because he'd come in a locker room after games It always he always like be rooting for me even when I wasn't playing this stuff. He was cool

I'd probably give it to him. It's true You still throw it We got to talk about these fucking Niners. Just my 49ers childhood team Just being gutted. Only 11 starters from their 22 remaining from the Super Bowl team. They in a full rebuild or what? I think they are kind of in a full rebuild.

And is Brock the guy? That's actually the main question. Is Brock Purdy the guy in San Francisco and how much do you pay him when it comes? Are they going to pay him? I have to go, right? They got to let it ride one more year, right? Let it ride. I don't know. Is is Brock's agent going to allow that?

Does he sit out? No, I don't think he's that kind of guy. I think they'll get something done before. But like, what's that number going to be? Is it going to be a five in the front or is it going to be a four in the front? Or is it going to be a high three in the front? I would say if I was a San Francisco 49ers, I'd be really happy if they could sign them with a four in the front,

anywhere from 44 to 48 million dollars a year. The front office of the San Francisco 49ers would take that, I believe. And I think that would be a very fair deal for both parties, too. But I'm Brock Purdy's agent and I'm going to sit here and I'm going to say, you mean to tell me. Dak Prescott, a guy that doesn't even have one season worth of playoff wins that my fucking little seventh round quarterback does, who's making $60 million is $12 million better than my guy.

I can't do that. I can't do that as an agent. That's when the egos kick in. And it's always up to the player as well to tell their agent, hey, I'm willing to take less money. A little bit less, not too much. Yeah, Rob, can you walk us through this situation? Because I've never been through this situation.

Go ahead. How does this work? What situation are you talking about, Jules? Free agent situation? Like when a team's about to unload a truck of money to you, like the conversation you have to your agent, like, hey man, I don't need it all. I want some to go to the team.

I mean, you were in this situation, Jules, when you were free agent. But I wasn't really in this situation either, because it wasn't like I was in the prime of my career when I was in Tampa Bay Bucks. I had the Buffalo Bills. They offered me, I think it was one mil or two mil more than what the Tampa Bay Bucks were offering me to go back to Tampa my second year. But literally it didn't matter if the Buffalo Bills offered me $5 million more at that time. I knew my mindset was to go back to the Bucs

for the second year, you know, out of retirement. You know, I wanted to play with the Bucs. I was familiar with the situation. I was happy, you know, with the living conditions as well. You got the nice weather. My mom, two hours down the street, you know, easy, easy fighting for my family. That's kind of like what Godwin probably felt. Exactly. It's exactly how I believe Godwin has felt as well. Like, hey, I got my family here. It's nice weather around 24 seven.

I know the organization, I know the playbook and that's how I was feeling at that time. So- I know the taxes. The taxes as well, yes. So it's not always about getting the most bang for your buck in free agency. It's where you fit in as well.

And that's where I fit in, you know, was with the Tampa Bay Bucks at that time. I could have fit in actually with the Buffalo Bills with Josh Allen, no doubt about that. But it was truly, you know, meant for me to be down here still. Yeah, it's. But that was my only situation. really meant for me to be down here still. Yeah, it's. But that was my only situation. It wasn't like $10 million difference. It was, I signed one year, 10 million in Tampa and like Buffalo Bills were offering like one year,

11 million. So it wasn't even that big of a difference, Jules. So I actually really never been truly, truly in that situation where it's like a five to ten million dollar difference Well, you probably you're in a different mindset than Trudevius Ward Javin Hargrave Dre Greenlaw Hufanga who's check and Devo because they said they want to go somewhere else for a couple extra million. Mm-hmm Well, or you know,, or in different situations, man.

And the Niners Niners in a full rebuild. I'm not going to lie when they lost at Super Bowl. And I think I have people around where I said they lot that that was their window. That was it. And I. I don't want to be, because I'm on a text chain with all my high school friends and they're all Niners fans, so. We're recording this a couple days into free agency,

so a lot of things could change. But we thought it'd be fun to look into our crystal ball. Ooh, the crystal ball. Let's hear the first read, Jules, from the crystal ball. Justin Fields will win more games at quarterback for the New York football Jets than Aaron Rodgers did. Five games, will he win five games?

Justin Field, I think they're gonna win more five games win more five games. I'm on the same page. I think this crystal ball. Is on the right path. This crystal ball knows what it's talking about so far. I think they went about six games to eight games this year. I think they're going to show improvement from last year, so the crystal ball says yes. I agree with the crystal ball. Mm hmm. I think I think the defense is going to play a lot better with Aaron Glenn,

head coach, like the defense was good at the then they had too much fucking stuff going on in the Jets lock. So like the strength of their team didn't play as the strength of their team last year. I think the strength of their team is gonna get back to being the strength of their team this year because of Aaron Glenn. So I think yes Justin Fields will have more than five wins or four wins five games four wins. Well let's see what Crystal Ball number two says next. Alright Crystal ball number two. Mac Jones will start more than three games in San Francisco in 2025. Oh, oh, crystal ball. I'm going to go against you on this one. I think that's a no.

The only way that that is happening is if Brock Purdy gets hurt. But I don't think that's going to be the case. So the crystal ball on this one says, no. No chance of this happening. Brock Perti is too legit. Oh, does the crystal ball not see in the past all the injuries that old Brock Perti has attained? Oh, Rob.

It's not reading that. He's been hurt. He's created the future. Oh, Rob, it's not reading that's been heard. The future is his left tackle. Backup left tackle that played a lot because big boy, big Trent, you know, he's been banged up the last couple. He's not there. They're losing linemen. They don't have Debo. You know, will he be holding onto that ball?

Ricky Pearsall is his only target right now. Will he be holding onto that? Is Christian McCaffrey playing this year? So we'll see. If you say the crystal ball says no, I think the crystal ball says no as well. No. Oh, what did your crystal ball say?

Your says no too? I think he might play two games, not three. Yeah. Well, it's more than three. So he actually has to play four games. All right. I got I got a crystal ball for you. All right. Let's hear it. The New England Patriots will make the playoffs in their first year under coach Mike Frabel

Crystal ball This crystal ball, I think they're going to This crystal balls feeling it today. And I'm feeling the crystal ball here as well. What's funny is my brother's name is crystal ball in Spanish, but it's totally spelled different. This is crystal ball like two separate words. Crystal ball is just one word and it's a name.

So it's kind of reminded me of my brother. My brother is kind of like a genius like that too. He just knows what's gonna happen in the future. So crystal balls are smart. So shout out to my brother, Chris, for being the original crystal ball. Shout out crystal ball. Yeah. Shout out. Crystal ball.

And the new England Patriots, I believe, too, along with the crystal ball will make the playoffs in the first year under Mike Bray. I feel like the, you know, Buffalo Bills will hold it down again and be the champs of the AFC East. But I mean, you got the Jets, they're going to be all right, nothing special. You got Miami, it ain't like they're making moves right now. It's all the same guys from last year. They're going to be competitive. They're going to be right in the middle.

But I'm thinking the New England Patriots, where Mike Vrab they're going to be competitive. They're going to be right in the middle, but I'm thinking the New England Patriots, where Mike Vrabel is going to take it up a notch and they're going to be the team that's going into the playoffs this year. As a number two seed and, uh, out of not the number two seat overall, but as a number two team, uh, making the playoffs. So as a wild card, uh, from the AFC East. I agree. But my mind went to when you said Miami is going to be agree, but my mind went to when you said

Miami's gonna be, my mind went to man, all those wine bars in Boca, better watch out for Zach Wilson, he just got shipped to town. All those moms. Mama jamas, you like moms, Jules. I know you do. I love my mom. Me too.

Geno Smith, crystal ball. Geno Smith will have more wins than Sam Darnold. I'm going, yes, I'm going. Crystal ball is yes, because I think the Raiders are. Trending up. I just like the leadership there. I'm going yes as well.

All because of my guy, Brock Bowers, man. Love seeing him play. He's gonna have a reliable target at all times. You know, they're gonna have a system that's gonna benefit Geno Smith as well. He's reuniting with head coach Pete Carroll. You got Brady there as well. He's not gonna let this team, you know,

be, you know, in the mid, mid level of the pack. He wants to take it up a notch. So I think yes, he outperforms Sam Darnold. I agree. I'm going. I just think it's going to be tough for. I don't think Seattle has a lot of. I mean, they got Walker.

They got Smith and Jigba. I don't know, man. It's tough that I don't know if they're going to. He's going to have the same production as what he had in, Minnesota They'll have a really good defense, but and that that divisions up for the taken in You know with LA being the NFC West like big dog. I think the other three can can fight each other so but I'm going with I'm going I believe in Pete Carroll and Geno Smith trying to go out and.

Purposely have more wins than Seattle to show them that they still have it. All right. And the last crystal ball reading we got here. Cooper Cup will have 100 hundred catches for a thousand yards and six TDs in 2025 and Roberto's crystal ball says no yes Cooper Cup will have an impact but he will not be a hundred catch guy I say more around you know 70 75 catches, possibly a thousand yards, possibly six touchdowns, but not a hundred catch guy.

You know, he's going to make an impact. He's going to do well. You know, he's going to be a reliable target. But my crystal ball here says, no. He's 34 years old as well. No, no, not 34. 31, 31 years old as well. 31. Not 34. 31. 31 years old as well. So you can still run, still make an impact, but being a 100 catch guy, that's gonna be tough. Rob, I had 100 catches. I had 100 catches at 33. Well, you're doing edel nut.

Yeah, but I think if he messes around and goes to like the Niners or like one of these systems that will feed them that need them. Mm hmm. Hundreds of I mean, it's so easy to I'm going I'm going now. I'm going now. I thought he's still he's still. Because you don't even know it. It just don't you don't know if he's going to be the feature guy anywhere. So now it's going to be tough.

Didn't he already admit before last season that he's not the feature guy anymore. And that Puka is then he say something along those lines. I don't know. Yeah, from what I can recall, I think he did. So he doesn't want to be the feature guy. I think he wants to be the number two and, you know, have that, you know, load taken off his shoulder, which is understandable. I mean, when you hit your thirties, that's kind of what happens.

You know, it does. It does. Unless, you know, that's when the wheels start to fall off. You know, that was fun. The crystal ball segment. Yeah, it was. We need more crystal ball, you know, in our life. More crystal ball. Well,, I like more crystal ball Well, let's get into the chillest dude of the week brought to you by our favorite beer Coors light get Coors light delivered straight to Your door visit Coors light comm slash dudes Celebrate responsibly look how chill that looks I can see the blue mountains from here It's gonna quench your thirst as well gonna make you you know feel

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Became unstoppable force where he's made a huge impact in helping his team You know with only a certain amount of plays. That's what the cool thing about being a team is, you know It's good to see a guy like him go out work his tail off, go the long road and get 18 million dollars. What a good number. Eighteen million dollars. Five point five guaranteed. Coming off an all pro season and only player in 2024 with a punt return and kick return for a touchdown.

You know, how is your return average since the merger. In 1970, I mean, this guy three and a half. He's chill. He's one of Bill Belichick's underrated players. I've seen him talking about him. You know, we talked about that the last episode as well. You love him. You love teamers. You appreciate teamers

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