Games with Names - Highlight Reels: Best NFL Lineman Stories Pt. II

Episode Date: September 14, 2025

We get in the trenches with our favorite offensive and defensive linemen to ever grace The Nuthouse! And boy do they have some great stories. From Ted Karas to Maxx Crosby, we love chopping it up with our guys on the line. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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starting now. Now, Ted Karras with his hilarious Tom Brady and Antonio Brown stories. Tom was a big stick, or if your center can't be wet. and so it's huge oh and this would be this is like a nightmare for explain that oh man i mean so i still do the towel to this day you can see me tom takes all the centers to the side if you're going to play center at any point even just an undrafted guy he'll teach how to fold it and put it

into your ass and i i still do to this day every single day everyone's asking like what is this because it looks kind of dorky and but i just like i can't i can't i can't Can't play center without it because that's just how I was I never played center before I got to New England So that was how I I learned center and an early moment the blue white scrimmage 2016 we do it every year um and I had you know I was on tom's team and apparently too wet for him And uh he literally this is this is a embarrassing moment he literally pulls me off to the sideline screams in my face that I'm a sweaty pig and then pulls my pants out and powder my ass with baby powder in front of everyone oh my god so what are you thinking i was kind of

embarrassed with me all the fans were looking where like it's like 15,000 people at jillette stadium but i was like i better i started changing towels a lot i would sometimes change pants at half time deodorant or something what the fuck i would i would baby powder myself every day before practice and and that's another thing you go back to that picture too you know Tom was really tall so when you know he would always tell you to get your butt up so and we were under center a lot so a lot of times there's that picture if you look at it I'm like straight-legged snapping it just because he's so tall he's so much taller than me but I would always just do whatever he said so yeah I mean yeah we all did we all did yeah and we just liked that he was

talking to us oh me too yeah I'll do whatever you want man looking at a New York Times article here in the headline. How do you avoid swamp ass? Tom Brady does it by sticking the towel down the center's pants. You had to learn how to get back down low to make a block. That's tough. Tall's a fucking, Tom's tall. Tom's way taller than one thing.

They don't realize. They say 6-4, but it's a tall 6-4. It's a tall 6-4. Like our team was, that's what I say. If we would have kept AB, we probably would win on our Super Bowl. Well, so A-B, like I love A-B. and he immediately took to me like I would look at me in the huddle you'd talk to me and then so my ab story is I'm in the cold tub with him um and he's just chat me up and you know he's a great

guy great conversation very intense human being um and so you're not allowed to take pictures in the facility it's like automatic firing right yeah so ab's like man we got to take a selfie I'm like I don't know man he's like no we're doing it I'm like all right takes a selfie of me and him in the cold tub you can look this up online too it's a great picture post it on his story cold tub dubs with big bro teddy k i get like 8,000 followers in like four hours puts my instagram on so i'm like kind of like freaking out i'm like geez that was that's like the number one rule of the facilities don't take a picture inside and yeah here we go cold tub does with big bro teddy k follow him now so the next day scar comes up to my locker

and his head like, hey, like, what the fuck were you doing? I'm like, what do you mean? It's like, you know, we're not allowed to take pictures in the facility. And so I'm, like, freaking out, and I totally fold. I'm like, whoa, it was A.B. Coach, I don't know what to say. I don't know what to tell me. He's like, dude, relax. I'm just fucked with you.

I don't know what to say. So, yeah, that's, A.B. was a great guy. Obviously, very, very colorful guy. Did you ever work with Best Buddies? Oh, yeah. Yeah, because I was about to say, maybe did you start best buddies and then find this organization?

Well, that was like a traumatic day for me because Tom would do that game every year. Yeah. And then he launched a bomb to me over Dave Andrews. I literally ran a go and it's just right out of my hands. And at the end, it's one of the only things I have signed from Tom Brady is a plaque that says, biggest drop. Oh, my gosh. Sold out Harvard Stadium. Oh, no.

The crowd is going on the mic. saying that. I had to go up on the middle of the field and get my biggest drop plaques. It's like some repressed trauma from that. I know it's been well documented, but like, what makes Tom so good at that sneak? Well, we've talked about it all day, how big he is and just how long, his willingness to do it. And we practiced it. I mean, there was a big, you know, when you get up to the ball, he would give you a 10-10

or 11-11, and where he wanted you to go at center, so obviously 11 to the left. What would Scar say in the meeting? I mean, we just got to try to... What are guys going in the jaws of death? I mean, what are you called the jaws of death? Yeah, and it's a sellout play, basically. We've got to try to get one double team, you know, wedge blocking type scenario. And then, you know, Tom was good at just finding the soft spot.

And if you watch that one, too, Miami was totally unprepared for that. We were on the one, and they had basically two, two techniques. So head up on the guard. So that's an easy... Get in. That's an easy... Get two yards on that. Because what Tom would do would be like we would call a goal line play.

And he would just go. But then he would say he would say Scooby-Doo. So that would be like, oh, hey, if the sneak is open, I'm just going to go, Dog, Dog, Blue, go. And then so that would be. So it's situational QB sneaking. Yeah. I think probably on that one, we had like some type of goal-line force play. And then.

And he was so successful because he would never, he would run it to like the right look. He wouldn't run it on a like, like, for example, you look at, the bills last year in the division or was a divisional against the chiefs the chiefs where they had the fucking tush push like they had everyone in their mother in the agaps there you got to get that outside somehow it's a feel thing it's a field to feel next up max crosbie on how he breaks down his own game film now we had whitworth on stud i love that guy love that and he would he would talk about he felt defensive ends didn't scout their tackles. Do you scout tackles and like what their strengths are?

He could always tell if a guy watched film on him or just throwing shit. Yeah, no, I definitely do. You know, I come from a, I mean, the guy, my biggest influence as a coach has been Rob Marinelli. And he probably heard of him. He had Warren Sapp, Julius Pepper's, numerous Hall of Famers. I had in my second and third year And that was my last I mean this season right here

That was my third year And that's where I took off And that dude Is all about watching your film Like he's like Every line when you go against It's a fucking gray face It's nothing

They're all the same It's like if you do what you're supposed to do Get off pad level hands Fight area If you understand all the things You're supposed to do At the best of your ability And apply it

It doesn't matter who the fuck's in front of you it doesn't matter what they do they're eventually going to get broken you know what i mean so that's i watch film on other guys of course i try to pick up during the week all right what is who's given away pass who's given away run what little things i can pick up but majority of the film i'm watching is my own film on repeat i watch my practices every night and then i'll watch a game or two games and then okay i'll throw on this guy versus you know whoever but at the end of the day i can't sit here and watch the Steelers versus Giants and expect them to block me

the same way they block some other guys because you can go into the plan, okay, they're going to do this and this and then they fucking throw three people at me. You know what I mean? Like we went to the Colts game, this, I mean, week 17, Robo comes up to me,

Rob Ryan, one of the coolest fucking dudes I've ever met. Great coach. He comes up to me. All right, this is the week. Colts don't, they don't chip. They just, they five man up. They're going to man you.

And I got double team chip the whole game. Yeah. And I'm like, fuck you know what i mean but that's why like i can sit there and anticipate and think they're going to do this and whatever but for me if i'm at my best and i'm doing my shit at the highest level then it doesn't matter what they do yeah you're what they call a problem no you know if if when i was playing we were to ever play a guy like you you're at that caliber where you're dedicating a 30 play clip in front of the whole team in the team meeting like

one of the keys to victory, which is never usually a player, but Crosby's that kind of guy where he's a problem. And you can see it in the run game. You can see it in the past game. They're sending chips, running backs. Next, Cam Jordan on what makes Sean Payton such a great coach. What was it like playing for Sean Peyton? I've changed this.

A quick bit. Yeah, I mean, you actually won. There's no point about what could have happened. Sean Payton, come on, man. Sean is awesome. Are you surprised that he's doing what he's doing in Denver? Having success? Yeah.

No, he's a winner. Yeah. Bro, like, again, the arrogance of winning. Like, you don't know if you can lose if you never lose. Yeah. That's like saying, you know, every year for the last like two years, three years now, you've looked at the Kansas City Chiefs and you hear media talk about, oh, they don't look as strong as they did in 20.

Oh, they're back to back football champions. Until they lose this thing, they've won this thing. In their minds. When you don't know how to lose, then you don't worry about losing. Other teams are like, we got to find a way to win. And they're like, yeah, so we're going to win. Just don't trick it off. Just make less mistakes.

Yeah. This is how we win. This is how we've won. This is how we'll continue winning. Yeah. Sean Payton was great because that's exactly what he put on the board every week. He said, hey, these are the three things that we need to win. Keys.

Three key points would be force fumble here. This guy, they think he's all world. We're going to take that away from him. They won't make them beat them any other way and don't have this many penalties and that's how we win and sure enough, we'd come in and he'd like, this is how we won the game.

Boom, boom, boom. Or like, well, we lost because out of these three key points we took X away, we had more turnovers, we lost the penalty game. These penalties led to 90-something yards. You know, 90-7 yards equals ended up being seven points. You know how much we lost by? Four. You know, like

methodology wins. And he's a big, he's a big numbers guy, big stats guy. Like, percentage wise, this is where you come out with, all that. And when you have success that way, you fully buy in. Good coaches know how to simplify complex matter. Because, you know, we are football guys. We're not fucking rocket scientists. So if you have a bunch of complex shit, you're trying to explain that to...

Some of your best players are single-minded, like, single-focused. Single-mindedly-focused people. Like, man, go quarterback, yeah. Yeah. Hey, drop me the coverage. Huh? Play man. Yeah.

You know what I mean? You simplify it. If you get guys on the same page, that's half the battle. That's it. Yeah. That's half the battle. Drew Restory, anything? How was Drew?

Drew is amazing, dude. Great leader. Just like, the things that you think quarterbacks do, that's what he did. You know, like, he's the first one in, first one out. Absolutely. He always takes care of his body. His body's got his body work. Absolutely.

he's he even when he's not in he's still doing all the checks for sure even when he's not throwing because he's older or whatever it is he's still making all the checks he's with the towel he's out there that press cotton you know what I'm saying hip twist got him got him he's calling things back even if he completes during practice he's like complete no deep ball to mike Thomas or trequin or whoever it is at the time big cook Jerry cook right he's like I didn't like that he'd like but what is he looking at you know he's visualizing his success um but just the way that he took to the game like you admired it and he had the same routine he never got a routine you knew what he was going to eat you know before game day hotel

one time tried to give him uh mac and cheese or whatever it's like chili mac i think uh was his big thing and they like like oh we caught it the the Drew the the the breeze chili mac whatever it was right beef noodles weak marinera and that was that was it right but they put hell of cheese on there and Drew doesn't didn't eat cheese at the time or whatever it was and he was like now I can't eat that like real specifically like no I thank you for everything but like I can't eat that I don't do this and I by the time he sat down cheese was gone name was gone fresh fresh noodles was out and I said okay the Drew Breeze way yeah the DB9 method right yeah he may not even eat gluten anymore but at the time he was eating noodles

noodles you know like that was that was the thing he'd have he'd have a bowl and like everybody knew about it wow I was like dang I got to get there but I'm a fat kid so like but you're not a fat kid because that's a lineman offensive no no that's an obese kid so you're a fat kid but the offensive lineman is an obese kid yeah morbidly discussing individually i like big guys next rich hornberger tells the story of matt light's incredible prank on the patriots coaching staff what's something that stands out with matt light that you remember matt light oh man in a meeting um matt one time uh he put a, I don't even know what to call it, a microchip or he switched out the mouse on Dante

Scarnikia's computer. He told that story. Oh, he told it on the, okay. So I won't repeat the story. Well, I'll give you the briefest version. So basically this, this little mouse, it messes with the cursor on the screen. So it'll work for about five minutes, but at some point you can have it on a timer. It's going to go away from where you're trying to point to. So Dante, for, I'm not kidding, the better part of like 10 weeks of a season thought that the the IT guys in New England were complete idiots he was like I mean they come in and they're over here circle jerking around the computer and nothing's getting fixed now I can't fucking teach if I can't click on the right I'm trying and then they would walk in and be like Dante what are you trying to click on

I'm trying to click on cut up number two you know and he's giving them the business and then they try it with the mouse but Matt when Dante would leave to get the IT guys Pull it out. He would switch it back out and nobody would see him do it. So then the IT guys would come in and be like, yeah, Dante, like the mouse works. Like, everything's cool. And so Dante thought he was going nuts or he thought they were lying to him. It was like this, it went on so much longer than was fair. Like Dante Scarnackia was losing his fucking mind that year. And it was all Matt Light. It was all his fault. It was incredible. I still don't know if Dante knows, what happened that year? I don't think he knows. It was incredible. Yeah. But then Dante was the ringleader. He had to try to find a way to rein in all of this. Like in, I mean, to this point in my life, I don't know if I saw a more cohesive unit on any football field than the New England Patriots Offensive Lyme when he was at the head of the class because Dante, he just found a way to connect with everybody. He was an amazing teacher. He'd slow it down for some. He'd speed it up for others. He spent

the time after practice there are so many coaches assistant coaches who are in a rush to get off the field yeah he really spent the time with us and I benefited greatly because my whole life I feel like every single situation I've ever walked into I'm an unfinished product like by leaps and bounds like a look around me I'm like why is everybody so much better than me and like I needed help and Dante gave me help I love that man I he taught me hard lessons he taught me the right lessons he he was an incredible coach incredible teacher too too. I saw that when we, when he was gone. You know, I remember I just, I didn't realize it until he was gone because I would remember

when he would, he would yell at these linemen. He would yell at you guys. Oh my God. And I want to get into your welcome to the NFL moment with Dante Scarnikio after this, but he would yell at guys in front of the, in the, in the offensive meeting, but he would yell, he would, he would call him a fat fuck or a fat piece of shit, but then he would follow it up with the technique that you had to do. So he goes, you fat fuck put your right foot drop it right here and you put your left hand right there instead of a coach that's just yelling like come on guys we got to do it better than that like he would give you play for play what you needed to do to get it right and that's what i saw he was such

a fucking great coach one thousand percent you know what i mean it wasn't just like hey you screwed it up no do better it was like this would be a dante line he'd be like hey ass eyes what the fuck were we doing in the meeting room the entire time before we took the goddamn failed and you'd be like I'm not sure there was so much and he would be like we were working on you know whatever we called it there you know if the mic backer is mugged up in the agap and he bales you got a pop if you're the center and look out to the fucking right because Sam's screaming off the edge and you're like okay I'm sorry but like you're hearing all this and like meanwhile internally you're doing all this stuff I was just doing and like on the outside

side, you're just like, you got it, Dante. Yes, sir. And don't call me, sir, motherfucker. That just means fuck you. And you're just like, okay, now another thing to remember, I can't call him, sir. It was, like, it was intense. It was intense. But it was, it was incredible because you learned, you learned really quick who was going to survive and who wasn't. There were guys who could handle the pressure. And that's all it was. It was just a pressure test. If you can't handle a 5-foot-6 assistant coach who, you know, I mean, like, he wouldn't be able to knock you over if he tried shouting in your face at practice. How the hell are you going to be able to handle the Cincinnati Bengals or the Seattle Seahawks or the Dallas Cowboys? Like,

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Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh my. I think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here.

And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Six, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies. To evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front opposites. construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else. It's everything you need to understand

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Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else. and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. Join us all season long as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport. Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football Podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We don't just love college football tie. We live it. This is an IHeart podcast.