Games with Names - Highlight Reels: Tom Brady Stories Pt. II

Episode Date: January 4, 2026

Tom Brady's New England Patriots teammates and coaches give their best stories of what made Tom Brady so great during his time in New EnglandSupport the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That was just like 75 snaps in the absolute beating down Florida Sun at 1 p.m. And, you know, it's tough done that. I'd say that's an advantage to play down there. But even so, though, you can tell towards... Because I used to, I wear the elbow guards, and Tom was a big stick or if your center can't be wet.

And so it's huge. And this would be... this is like a nightmare for explain that oh man i mean so i still do the towel to this day you can see me tom takes all the centers to the side if you're going to play center at any point even just an undrafted guy he'll teach how to fold it and put it into your ass and pause i i still do to this day every single day everyone's asking like what is this because it looks kind of dorky and but i just like i can't i can't play center without it because that's just how I never played center before I got to New England

So that was how I I learned center And an early moment, the blue white scrimmage 2016, we do it every year And I had, you know, I was on Tom's team And apparently too wet for him And he literally This is a embarrassing moment He literally pulls me off to the sideline

Screams in my face that I'm a sweaty pig And then pulls my pants out And powders my ass with baby powder in front of everyone. Oh my God. So what are you thinking? I was kind of embarrassing. All the fans were looking were like,

it's like 15,000 people at Gillette Stadium. But I was like, I better, I started changing towels a lot. I would sometimes change pants at half time. Do you do deodorant or something? What the fuck? I would, I would baby powder myself every day before practice. And that's another thing.

you go back to that picture too, you know, Tom was really tall so when, you know, he would always tell you to get your butt up. So,

and we were under center a lot. So a lot of times if you look at it, I'm like straight-legged snapping it just because he's so tall, he's so much taller than me.

But I would always just do whatever he said. Yeah. We all did. We all did, yeah. And we just liked that he was talking to us.

Oh, me too. I'll do whatever you want, man. I'm looking at a New York Times article here in the headline, how do you avoid swamp ass? Yeah.

Tom Brady does it by sticking the towel down the center's pants. You had to learn how to get back down low to make a block. That's tough. Tall's a fucking, Tom's tall. Tom's way taller than one thing. They don't realize. They say 6-4, but it's a tall 6-4. It's a tall 6-4.

Next up, Julian and Rich Ornberger discuss how Tom Brady defeated Father Time. Explain Tom Brady. I mean, explain how he did it for as long as he did. I don't get it. I think it's a product of the perfect. storm yeah it's a his health and wellness lifestyle yeah that's real yeah that shit's real like the guy you know he wouldn't put anything in his body that he didn't think that was fucking great whatever alex said he did that if Alex said eat a turd this will make you

fucking heal faster I'm gonna be honest with you when I was in New England if Alex Pereira asked me to eat a turd I would have done it too you know what I'd been like I would have two. I mean, if one's good, two is better, right? I mean, I would. I didn't select this shit. Nah, I ain't do with that. But then also, I think a lot of has to do with the rule changes as well. Yeah. You know, he's the first quarterback that went from the medieval time football to what it is now. That's true. Where the quarterback is so protected. So these guys, and he, and his, his build has always been in the pocket. So he hasn't had to be, you know, rat explosive to get outside the pocket or this.

He could work everything he had to work until he was 45. And that's a testament to his hard work and his lifestyle. But it's also a testament to, you know, you watch some of these quarterbacks that got hit back in the day. Or even earlier in his career when his helmet got took it off. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. These guys were getting hit.

And then we look at Trevor Lawrence, who goes down and doesn't think he should even be touched. Like, this is a national footballing. These are fucking animals. Dude, yeah. You got to protect yourself at all goddamn time. It doesn't matter if it's a free player. You can't get hit. You know what I mean?

So, like, I think it's the perfect storm. It really is probably accurate. Like, there's always an intersection of... And he's just great. Touched by God. Yeah, touch by God. Right. So there's some of that luck factor.

Whatever it is, I mean, met with the most I've ever seen anybody work on his body, on his diet, nutrition, health, physical fitness. body work, he hired a, you know, a guy to literally keep an eye on it so he didn't have to. It was like, I mean, every single aspect of his life was encompassing or was circled around being the best he could possibly be today. And that level of sacrifice, it's so rare and so unique. And it's also, it's, he's got like, he's got an extraordinary ability to compartmentalize. that is extraordinary you know what i mean like it didn't matter what was going on in his life yep

tom brady was the same guy every day at work yeah the like almost the nerd guy that was in there at first with his book taking notes hand up fucking heroically unflappable and it didn't matter if it was on the field it didn't matter if it was in the film room it didn't like what was going on the outside you had you would have no idea i mean like you said he could get leveled he could throw an interception on the past drive the next time he goes on the field it's dimes all the way down for a tutty and we're back on top of the scoreboard and you're like how but that's that's that's the perfect way to describe it but it's not even just those things it was the things outside of football like his he had family problems his mom was like he was a fucking like you wouldn't know

because once that's how that's that that's a fucking that's a talent to like really he's got like this goal setting talent if he wants that fucking goal doesn't like he can focus on it yeah it's like some you know psychological murder shit no it really like it's almost sociopathic yeah that's what that's what i was looking for was he rich thanks but but i but i but i but i i loved it so much because there was all that like the cold-blooded killer side and and and that's the the the Sunday's time and the you know the practice time but then he's a guy who take his tray over to some knucklehead you know Dick Burger out of Penn State who just got drafted in the fourth round and know my bio like would sit down with his

cottage cheese and blueberries or whatever the fuck he eats or avocado smoothies and be like you know asking me about my parents and like and you grew up in New York right be like how the shit do you know that dude like yeah I do and like we would go like you developed a rapport really quick with his teammates so it wasn't just the football stuff like he understood it was everything that was important to having a whole team to having a whole picture and i loved it so much it was it was like having like you know an uncle or a big brother who was guiding the process and taking a lot of the thought out of it for you it was pretty cool but like your uncle he was the guy that like started like facebook and like he was like the cool uncle

but hella rich had like you know what I mean yeah but he never knew he was he was kind of adored but mark Zuckerberg cool uncle he's Tom Brady's Mark Zuckerberg basically next up Scott Pioly talks negotiating a contract with Tom Brady and it's funny because Don and I had some interesting and some complicated conversation sometimes because Brady we'll talk about Brady's deal because I didn't get to do your deals so Brady's first deal was you know the rookie contract and And I'll say this. Unfortunately, we were doing business at that point in time, not thinking long-term and relationships.

It was a very bottom-line way of doing things. And it was something Bill and I weren't comfortable with. And we, so Tommy's first deal, he got less than he should have for his slot. There wasn't sloting back then, but everyone knew with the slot because it wasn't called the slot. And we broke his shoes a little bit, unfortunately. the people that were doing the contracts at that time. And then when it came time for Tommy's next deal, I was doing the next deal and then the next deal.

And I'll never forget, we were at this one point in time. I think it was maybe Tommy's third deal. It might have been. And Don and I weren't making progress. And we were trying to keep the team together, right? That was part of our thing. We didn't expect people to take home team discounts. We were hopeful that people would want to spread it

and keep the winning because we felt, you know high tides raise all boats and and the more that we won there was all these other opportunities marketing et cetera et cetera and i'll never forget don and i couldn't get anywhere and Tommy was getting annoyed because he was getting distracted not annoyed with anyone he just he just want to think about ball and i'll never forget one morning he comes up to my office and he knocks and he comes in and he closes the door and he says hey can we talk about this contract i'm like Tommy you we can't have a negotiation that's against the rules we're not a lot he goes listen we got to talk but he and I had a really good and close relationship and he said where are you guys

at so I told them where we were at told them where you guys are at and he says what's the drop dead number I'm saying Tommy we can't have this conversation I got to talk to Don about this and I'll never forget it was the deal when he signed it was the I want to say it was the six year 10 million a year deal yeah think about that six years 60 million it was like and I'll never forget I said that's probably our choke point. But we're playing this game. Don and I, it's not a game. I shouldn't call it that. We're having this negotiation where one team's low, one side's low, one team's high, and you're trying to find the middle spot. I'll never forget, Tommy looks at me, shakes his head, looks the way he goes, if I can't live the rest of my life off for $60 million

and my family, he says, I've got problems. He's like, get Don on the phone. I'm like, Tommy, we can't we can't do this he says get him on the phone we got on the phone and and put it on speaker and Tommy goes hey Don it's Tom he goes hey how you doing that he goes and you know don's all upbeat and he goes I got you on speaker phone I'm in Scott's office dead silence dead silence he goes and Don's like what are you doing there he's like Don listen man this is ridiculous he says I'm talking to Scott and I'm like sweating because It wasn't a negotiation. He was just asking.

And anyway, Tommy's like, listen, you guys just get this done. And I go, I'm bringing this story up because I go back to Don. Don and Steve could have made so much more money if they didn't do what their client wanted. And Tom, you know, Don and Steve have left money on the table year after year after year after year by doing what their clients wanted and maybe not trying to talk their clients into something that would pay them greater 3%. Anyway, I don't mean to make that a long story, but it's just, I think the world of Don Yee. Yeah, Don Yee's, we call him the dragon, bro. He just calm, cool, and collect. Now, Brian Hoyer on what it's really like to back up Tom Brady. You know, New England, there's 15 personnel groups. So you have to like remember where you,

and you change on everything. And then the formations and then all the concepts. And so for guys like us undrafted seventh round like you couldn't afford to fuck up a rep that's right like or you thought you were getting cut and there were so little reps for us that like you had it was a super bowl anytime you got a rep in practice when the big dogs were watching that's right i remember being in there like like late o t a's and all of a sudden out of nowhere bill puts me in with the first team offense yeah and i'm like holy shit moss yeah ben watson welker like all these guys and i'm like don't fuck this up. And I remember we ran like a like shake route and I hit Ben Watson up the seam.

And I was like, and I was like, all right. And you almost forget like you got to go to the next play. But you were like, that was kind of a welcome the NFL moment. Here I am undrafted, working my way up. And out of nowhere wasn't planned. You're in there with the big dogs. Yeah. I know.

It's 1,000. And well, people don't, people forget. You know who the quarterback Hoy beat out to be the backup? Kevin O'Connell. Yeah. And coached to the Mike Eons. He's doing a tremendous job. How about him?

he's done an amazing job i don't know how much i mean clearly with with fox you're probably staying up on this but just seeing the behind the scenes interaction he has with his team yeah like that's the type of coach you want to play for he's he was always like that he was always i remember because we used to hang out me him slate windy yeah you would come in there but it was still a little weird with the backup you guys you know what i mean so i had different groups yeah i you know and he was always really great at like the camaraderie of the the group which is so important and and the mental toughness. I don't know how it was in your guys' room, but

like he knew he wasn't better than you. I remember I don't know if he thought, I saw it, but I don't think there was any like animosity or animosity between you guys. And that takes a lot. And that's shown in his coaching that, you know, that mental toughness to do what's best for the team.

Yeah. Like it's crazy that he just got rid of Sam Darnold who had 14 wins. I know. And that's a lot of belief in Jay McCarthy. That is mental toughness. That's mental toughness believing what's best for the team. that's right what he thinks you know what i mean yeah no it was it was Kevin was great and thankfully we still have a good relationship and talk from time to time but it quarterback room is unique only one guy gets to play you know what i mean i think it's probably the one room where things can be really

tight and really good or there's there's times where it can be a little friction you know what i mean and you try to just handle it the best way you can i'm i'm a non-confrontational person by heart so i always want to make sure i get along with the people in the room and do the best you can to do that. No, I always explain to people what I think the role of the backup quarterback is. And I always bring it to you.

Like, when Hoyer was a backup quarterback for Tom, like, it's not just okay, you got to be ready to play. It's like a shoulder for Tom to lean on, a guy that he can talk to with his problems. Like, it's a whole different dynamic. It's like, you have to be, you have to put so

many different caps on as a backup quarterback. Like, he's got to get the scout team going. He's got to make sure that the coaches are given the quarterback. Like, there's so many communication levels. Can you explain that dynamic of a backup quarterback? I mean, I look at my time backing Tom up in two separate eras, really. Because the first three to four years, I was just learning. I mean, I look back now, Jules, and you mentioned beating out Kevin O'Connell.

Like, that was the year after Tom come back from this huge ACL injury. There was no way I was ready to play. Yeah. It's just, I mean, I look back at, like, how long. little I knew where I was fundamentally. My fundamentals weren't very good. And just by good performance, I end up being the backup. But those first three to four years, I didn't really do much for Tom. I mean, I was just learning, just soaking it all in. And, you know, it was more like just be ready to play and don't get in his way. Yeah. But then, you know, I go off. I play a lot of

football, different teams, learn about myself as a player, get better. And then came back in 2017. And I felt like I actually could provide some assistance to him. Like, hey, when I was playing in San Francisco, we ran this play. Or, you know, I really learned about zone coverage from Kyle Shanahan. Like, you know, this is how that Seattle 3 is trying to play. And we had a different relationship at that point, which was great. But you're right. Like, at that point, he was a little bit older. Remember, I was practicing almost every Wednesday, sometimes Thursdays, which was great for me because I got the reps. And that made me really believe that I'd be ready to play if I had to. But it was a different role then. It was more, it was less like mentor learning. It was more like I'm here

with them and I'm helping with ideas that he's coming over the sideline. What did you see on that play? I didn't really get asked that a lot, you know, first three years of my career from him. You know, it reminds me a lot like with that situation. It's like a head coach that gets fired that becomes a DC OC on a team. It's so great for that head coach that hires him to be able to bounce ideas off each other because he has experience of running the ship. He knows through his experience of different situations, which you had that experience as a starting quarterback that you could say, hey, Tom, when we played him like this, you know, that's just such a huge help for a quarterback. Information is gold. And that's what you were when I saw you as a backup. You had

great information. Whenever there was like, like those Wednesday, Thursday practices that Tom, if he didn't want to, you know, if, you know, he was getting that whatever, like the offense still clicked. We could still get work done. It wasn't like, it was a fucking, we couldn't get the play call. We couldn't get the right throw. And early on, I don't know if you remember this, but there was an instant probably like first second year. Moss was still there. So it had to be first season. And it was late in November, early December. It was cold as shit. The wind was how we were in a stadium practice. And Tom had to take the day off. That was the playoff game. So this is the first, I know what you're talking about. That's when he,

he fucked his thumb up. Yeah. But this is like our rookie year. And Tom had to take the day off. He was nursing to injury, whatever it was. And I went out there. I probably completed 50% of the passes. And we pull up the team meeting after practice.

And Bill's like, where's Hoyer? And I'm kind of lingering in the back. I walk forward. He's like, how do you expect our team to have a good practice? When you come out here and completely suck it off? And I was like, oh shit. But it was literally like one of those practices where you went to throw a go ball and the wind just carried it out of bounds.

Yeah. And it was not my finest moment. But that was probably one of the first times I ever had to step in for Tom. To your point, you go back and now I come back in 2017. That was what I had been accustomed to. I've been a starter in three different places. So I knew what it was like to go out and have a good practice and make sure the team kept running, which, you know, that was, it was great work for me.

It was great for Tom to get the rest he needed, the recovery. And to your point, I never wanted practice to take a step down. Yeah, you can't. Was it the most Bill ever gave you something? Was that like the biggest? One. I mean, there was a few in those, in those low-light meetings. There was, there was the one.

Remember, Tom broke his middle finger messing around with Isaiah Standback before the Miami game, our rookie year. Yeah. And I was like, there's no way this dude's playing, like broken middle finger. But, you know, there was Alex working on it. And he ended up playing. We lost down in Miami. He threw for like 350 yards. And so the next day I was doing-

Miami. I know. I was doing an event at Reebok, like a charity event. And some reporter was there was like, hey, we saw. saw Tom's was on the injury report. Like, did you think you were going to have to play? And I basically said, like, look, like, Tom's as tough as they come. I knew he was going to be ready to go, blah, blah, blah. The next day in meetings, Bill's like, why don't you just let Tom's speak for himself and you just worry about yourself. Like, you don't need to, are you in his body?

Do you know how his finger felt? And so, I mean, you learn real quick. I mean, hoi, if anyone would be in Tom's body, it would be here. It would be Hoyer. I don't know. Look, I didn't follow him out to California. Oh, oh. That's called a business decision. Hey, I already said, look, there's not two people more who followed Tom around more than you and I. And like I said, I think it was a wise that we played forever. You, I mean, I learned so much and was able to implement it when I played, which is why I played as long as I did. You became, you know, his go-to receiver, the guy he trusted Super Bowl MVP. So those were wise business decisions. People can hate on us all they want. But I think the resumes speak for themselves.

and to your point, when you're an aspiring athlete, you find someone who's doing it the right way. And luckily for us, it wasn't just Tom. We had guys like Matt Light, who I know you had in here, Kevin Falk, Brucey, I mean, so many guys that we could watch as young players and say, that's the right way to do it. 1,000%. And what's it like watching film with Tom?

What did you take from watching film in the quarterback room with Tom Brady that you took on when you became a starter or that you used when you were a backup or anything? How is film session with Tom Brady? It's amazing how he sees film. You know what I mean? And as a young player, you come in and I'm like, all right, I'm going to watch this film.

I'm going to watch like the offensive plays. Like, no, he's watching for techniques of corners. He's like, all right, the stars inside. That's giving me the read that it's going to be covered two. Now he's outside. It's going to probably be covered through. I mean, the depth of which he would watch film and the things that he would find, like I said to me, that first time I backed him up was learning mode.

And so then when I went out and had an opportunity to be a star, or my own. It gave me a good foundation of how I wanted my routine to be. Like, okay, I know early in the week, he's just going to watch a bunch of games. And then when it gets to Wednesday, he's getting the cutups of early downs. And then Wednesday night, it's third down. You know, you're breaking it down. It's a lot to take in. And then the other thing, too, I remember as a rookie, I forget who we were playing. I'm like, oh, I'm going to watch this game. He's like, don't waste your time with that. Their offense is absolutely different from ours. Like, the way that the Ravens played them is going to be totally different. You've got to find teams.

that run a similar system to us or similar play calls. What is Garnanaciosay? Do businesses, businesses, be in a fellow. Same car, just different license players. That's right, yeah, yeah. But it's funny, like, you know, for me, growing up in our system, in our offense, and then the first time I went out,

I played for Kyle Shanahan, completely different. Completely. Completely different. The differences between the Charlie Weiss system that evolved to the McDaniels, Billy O, whatever you want to call, and the West Coast system that came from Bill Walsh in his running stance.

Chenehan and all that shit. We could turn this into a four-hour show if we wanted to. But honestly, the one thing that was unique about my career was, I played in the three family trees. There's the Earhart Perkins system. There's the West Coast, the Bill Walsh. And then there's the North Turner, kind of the air coriol system. And I got a taste of them all. But the thing about the Patriot system, it really put the onus on the players, right?

They taught you how to react. They taught you how to think for yourselves. And you went out there and we had alerts. We had audibles. had changed the protection, change your route, changing routes, all of these things. Whereas the West Coast is really, you talk about they're the same, what is the same license plates, they're just changing the number. Like, it's a lot of the same plays, but they dress them up a lot of different ways. Motion, shifts, traditional groups. Yeah, try to make the defense communicate late,

but really run the same plays. Now, Bronc, Julian, on Tom Brady's Hall of Fame induction and his impact. How about that night? That was a fun night. Oh, what a night, man. What a night. What a freaking night, man. Tom Brady night at the Patriots. I think it was June 12th, 2024. Everything had a meeting. It was pretty cool to just have a bunch of guys that we went and competed with in the same area for, like, for Tom.

Like, it was really cool because we had so many different teams. A lot of the guys were there from different generations of the Patriots, the guys that we heard about when we were playing, to the guys that we played with, to the guys after us. I mean, it was just a fun night to celebrate the goat, you know, and I was in the show. I was like watching the show and, you know, Tom, how, he's just a genuine dude.

Like everything he said and everything he practices, or he preaches about, he practices. Like, he's really that kind of guy. And people are going to get to see that when he gets to go out and broadcast now and see what kind of guy he really is. I'm really excited and it was a great night. I want to hit on what you just said again because you really don't see that anymore in this generation. He really practices what he preaches.

There's no ands, ifs, or buts about Tom Brady being Tom Brady. What he puts out there, what he preaches, he practices it. Yeah. And there's no doubt about that. There's a lot of people out there on social media or at a lot of. lecture. They're, you know, reminiscing about this is what you got to do to be great. This is what you got to do to be successful. Well, Tom Brady does what he says on a daily basis. Daily basis. There's no doubt about that. He takes care of his body on a daily basis. He takes care of his mind

on a daily basis. He competes on a daily basis. And that's what makes him so great as well. And he, he's like the ultimate family guy. Yes, he is. On a daily basis. No, Peter Griffin. No, Peter Griffin. We were all up in there, thankful to be brought, Jules, as a guest of honor, but I got a two-fold question here. What was each of y'all's favorite part of the night that wasn't seen on the live stream? Not up on stage, something else, backstage, cool moment, favorite person you saw, something like that. My favorite part was just having our little table.

It was me, Grong, Danny, Camille, you guys, and just like the little. chatter that we would give during the, the speeches or something, you know, like the heckle here that we all knew about. It was like an inside joke of some sort. The chirps. The chirps. And just seeing everyone, like, you know, Scott Pioly was pretty cool. I never really got to meet him. You knew so much about a lot of these guys because of the stories and the coaching, just the coaching examples of you'd hear like, oh, this is what this coach did, this. Well, We got to meet all those guys. It was really cool.

That's my favorite. How many X players do you think were there? Oh, my God. Oh, we have an Excel sheet. It was a lot. 50, 60? No, more than that, man. I feel like there had to at least be like 100.

I made an awful joke when we walked into Kyler that, like, if a meteor hit Gillette Stadium that day, the entire Patriots organization from start to fit is wiped out. Wiped out. Like, everyone was there. Everyone. Stanley Morgan. I saw Stanley Morgan. Crazy.

Yeah, Stanley Morgan. came up to me and that was the first time I've ever got to meet him and the first time I've talked to him was when I beat his touchdown record I think he had 79 touchdown records he had the most touchdowns in Patriot history I think I beat it when I was playing a game in Pittsburgh versus Steelers and then the next day Stacy James put him on the phone and Stanley Morgan congratulated me for beating his touchdown record for most touchdowns by a Patriots so that was really cool to meet him in person and we had a great conversation And I thanked him for setting that record.

And he said, hey, man, not a problem. Records are meant to be broken. Congratulations, Gronk. And we just hit it off, man. What a great dude. Also that Randy, standing O was pretty cool. That was a pretty cool moment. And Randy Moss deserved that standing ovation.

It was great to see how emotional he got as well. He had a couple tears coming down from his eyes. I mean, just think about what he did in his first season here as a New England Patriot. I swear, Tom Brady will always be Tom Brady. But Randy Moss made Tom Brady like untouchable, I feel like. Like, you know what I mean by that? That was the first air raid offense. Yes. Like era. He took Brady to a whole next level. Same with West Walker. That dual right there in 07, 08, like 09, like they just took Brady to a whole other level. They were scoring like no one's ever scored before in the NFL. And just the way.

they're airing out the ball as well and then just, you know, shoving that dink and dunk pass to Welker underneath as well. It was unstoppable. It really was. And it's pretty much what the league looks like now, you know, just the air raid offense, you know, and then also with you coming in in 2010, you know, and really redefining and putting like an exclamation point on the tight end. It was already getting there with Tony Gonzalez and the shockies of the world.

but you know then gronk and then you know our other one that we don't really want to can't always really say Hernandez I know it's it's so sad actually it's disappointing because he was such a valuable I'll just hit on it real quick because he was a valuable piece of our organization at the very beginning so it's kind of hard to just blank him out it's hard it's hard to blank him out I mean this game has Hernandez in it and he rushed the ball as a tight end five times in this place game that we're going to be talking about for 61 yards as a tight end first first drive he had like a 30 yarder making guys miss hitting the hole like a running back it was crazy and what people don't really realize about like they always ask oh what was it like with erin and this and

that i mean he was a stud for a reason that guy practiced his ass off he he knew like he was an asshole about knowing everything but he knew everything he would digest all of his content or all his info and stuff and he knew what was going to be called before the play was going to be called because he studied hard he worked hard he'd be on punt punt team when he was you know making 30 million dollars just to try to pit he was kind of an asshole in there but he was doing that to make other guys better like he just liked to compete he was a really good guy little weird yeah we all we all heard the stories and stuff but like the guy worked his dick off and he was really good and one of the smartest football players i've ever been around i mean i'm talking i didn't really

my rookie year, my first eight games, I was sporadically put in for about 15 to 20 plays for about the first eight games because I really couldn't get a grasp of the playbook. And that kid, I'm telling you, within the first two weeks of OTAs as a rookie, he knew the whole entire playbook, the X position, the Y position, and the Z position and the F position, because he was lined up all over the field. And he knew it like back of his hand after two weeks. It was incredible. It was. You know, we don't condone anything that happened with everything. We're just talking straight as a football player. I mean, he worked hard. Yeah, he was kind of weird and did all these things, but he was like, he knew everything about everything. You could tell he studied. You could tell he was watching all the film, and it was crazy. Did you see Coach Belichick? I did not see Coach Belichick at the ceremony. I saw him on stage, obviously, deliver his speech. He did a great job. I think Coach Belichick made. be my new favorite person ever since the roast ever since he also got roasted out of head coat out of the head coaching job as well and like I feel like that guy can just take a punch man

and he can throw a punch as well he can throw a serious punch well that's because he was throwing serious haymakers throughout his whole career as a head coach anyways and then we finally got to throw some punches back at him at the roast but man that guy man his personality is great outside of football and like he turned into my new favorite person at the ross just the way he presented himself and if he just showed that personality at all while he was a head coach i still think we would be playing for the new england page and winning super bowls if he just showed five percent of what he he has been shown over the last month man we would have 10 super bowls with new england my favorite thing about his speech to brady was not that he was just talking about

Brady being the greatest player of all time. It wasn't that. It was that Brady was the football player who sucked the least. Made the least, the fewest amount of mistakes, yeah. That was something. Well, I would also give some credit to Coach Belichick for that as well, because that's what Coach Belichick engraved into us as players. He said, you can't win in the NFL.

You keep from losing. Before you keep from losing. So you can't beat yourself down or else you're never going to win. And Coach Belichick just harped on us about that. And he engraved that in the time. And that's also a part of the reason what made Tom so great is he made the least, you know, bad mistakes out there. There's no doubt. And everyone just as a team overall, a player individually, I would say, you know, didn't make those mistakes because of coach just harping on us every week, week in and week out.

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