Games with Names - Highlight Reels: What It's Really Like Being an NFL Player
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Welcome to Games with Names.
I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation highlight reel starting now.
Now, Jules breaks down how NFL contracts actually work.
This is from Brian Kemet on YouTube.
I'd love a segment on any, quote, dangerous things players aren't allowed to do while under NFL contract, either in season or out of season, like ride a motorcycle.
Well, they can specifically negotiate, or they can specifically put in things like motorcycle if they know that person is a motorcycle driver.
But they have one thing that covers everything.
If you get hurt doing something other than football, you could lose your money.
any physical activity
anything
if you get hurt
yeah
shout out Dustin Penner
so like skiing
parachuting
this that
you know
playing basketball
if you get hurt
technically
they don't have to pay you
what about training
if it's like
see that's where the gray area is
because you're trying to better
yourself for the sport
because I've hurt myself
in training
but they covered that
but if you're gonna
you know what I mean
but it's kind of a gray area
unless they specifically say it
in certain things
in certain people's contracts
because remember Drew came on here
and said he went skiing
even though he wasn't supposed to
yeah I forgot about that
you know what I mean
so like in theory
you could be like dude
skydiving's part of my training routine
if I can't scuba
what's all this about
yeah right
forgot the whole point
okay that's interesting
do you know of any specific instances
where you came across people
getting shortened things
like put in their contract that they can't do.
Like Chris Hogan can't play lacrosse.
I don't, I didn't, no one talked about that stuff.
Yeah, okay.
You know, like maybe JPP, no firecrackers.
Fourth of July, the GM calls him up,
what are you doing over there, JPP?
What's on top for today?
Man, it's, it's so, I get so scared whenever I light the fireworks now.
Bro.
Because of that.
Fireworks are dangerous.
man. And my dad used to say it all the time. Blow your fingers right off. Frank was right.
And it will. Oh my God. Stick to the sparklers. Sparklers. It's safe for all. You want to get
into the next one? Next one. Sorry, I don't know the dangerous stuff. I know. We love danger.
Just can't do anything. Danger. I'm not going to blow up anyone's spot, but the irony of this coming this episode.
Oh, yes. Sorry. Oh my goodness.
No, this is the Ted Karras episode. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wait, because we want to
went on a dirt bike ride?
Yeah.
Oh, gosh.
I forgot about that.
We didn't go on a dirt.
It was like,
we were on Super 73s.
It was a simulation.
It was like a...
Travis Pastrana backflips.
Yeah, right.
Boy, did he not know how to drive it?
Oh, my goodness.
That's surprising to me.
Nothing like some good old peer pressure.
He lied, too.
Yeah, drive dirt bikes.
You see, he treats me like an older brother or something.
Or like...
He was very nervous about peer pressure coming here.
Yeah, I know.
I will not put in to Julian's peer pressure.
He folded like a lawn chair.
Next, we have a YouTube comment question from Jelly 899.
Do you get paid extra for appearing in the TV network's pregame hype videos like they have leading up to the Super Bowl or other big games?
What do you mean?
Like when you're like in uniform, like holding a ball on like Sunday night football and you're like, oh, I'm looking cool.
No.
Does that happen before the game?
Or does that happen in the beginning of the season?
That happens usually the week you're still at your home stadium.
So NFL was for the Super Bowl.
Right when you get to the Super Bowl,
you get there a week early,
you have like a day dedicated for certain guys
to go do media obligations for the networks.
That's just like a green screen like in a room.
It's like a green screen.
They'll bring in a group of guys.
We do it preseason for our team individual stadium stuff
And like our what our team uses
And then you kind of do that same thing
But for the network whoever is hosting it
And the NFL that week
So you do that before the week
You don't get paid extra
That's part of your contract
Now what about for just like a regular like Sunday night football
Because they do some media stuff for that too
Is that beginning of the year?
That's beginning of the year
And like NBC will come in and shoot with some people
No you do like our team
I think our team's production
will take stuff for NBC
CBS for CBS for Fox
Because they know the schedule
Has that your media schedule
That's your media day
Yeah
Because you do it like four different
For like you do it for like
Different things
That's cool
Yeah that's all pre
I always like seeing in that when there's a guy
That like his drip will be a little different
than it would be like on field
So you can always tell
Who didn't go to those days
Because they have the same one from the year before
They just
You look at Brady, I think his was from like eight years ago.
He had to finally do new ones when he went to Tampa, but...
What about the old, like, Monday Night Football where it's like,
you just like, it's the cutout and you say your name,
you say where you're from.
Ray and University.
Yeah, so you do that that day.
You do that that day.
Before the season.
Before the season.
Oh, wow.
So you got to play in your joke high school, like pretty early.
Yeah, you got to go early with it.
You say Kent State?
I say, what side?
I gave a couple.
I said college.
I never used him, though.
I never thought about it going into, like, I was thinking about the team
we were playing you know what I mean yeah but like I never thought about it where uh I think I
did college of San Mateo for one cool Kent State and I just did like Redwood City then I just
did one that said Tai K. Mote. What's that? I think it's like fight till death and like either
Simone or so cool but it was like it was something we all used to say and our football teams back
in the bay we would like Tai Kmarti I love that call back so like we would we made it kind of like
a figure of speech, like
you're part of Taike Mote. That's
tight. And there was there anyone being like, what the
fuck is that? Just say your guy did at school? Yeah, the guy
behind. Can you just say
Ken State, asshole? No, you do Ken State last.
Yeah, you do the, give him the straight line one
last. Yeah, you go. The Kent State University.
Oh, you, because
you know they're going to keep that.
So, but you get off like five or six.
Get some phone was like, all right, cool, sloppy.
Julian Edelman, Redwood City.
Julian
Redwood City.
49ers
It's like the guy
And like picture day
The guy's taking in school
And he's like
All right like
Just get the one
I can show your mom
And like
You'll actually buy it
Did you get a haircut
For a picture day?
That's the thing
Sometimes you'd be fully off blast
No
Just catch off
Yeah
You go up in the locker room
Or you go up in the
The bathroom
And everyone's getting all
Cleaned up and stuff
For the fucking stupid shit
We gotta do
Oh shit is picture day
Yeah
So you see guys getting all cleaned up
It's always funny
When like a guy
Will be in there
And they show like
The full body one
He's like
Just wearing sneakie
in his full jersey.
Yeah.
And you guys always, like, a lot of times you don't wear pads.
It looks so goofy.
Yeah, it looks hilarious.
We didn't wear pads.
Yeah.
And we love that because it sucks putting those pads on with those game jerseys.
And it looks goofy.
It's hilarious.
Now, Jules takes us through what travel is really like for NFL players.
Hey, Julian.
Kyle.
You're talking.
Howdy?
Or if you could tell us what it's like on an NFL road trip.
I know, no basketball, baseball, hockey, a lot of games to be played.
not so much. You guys go home, stay out there. And what's your favorite memory from a road trip?
So in the NFL, our away trips are business trips. It's not like NBA, baseball, hockey, where these guys have three, four games in the night.
Once we get there a day before, unless it's a West Coast trip, we'll get there on a Friday.
We'll leave right after practice. We have curfew the night before the game.
game um yeah night before game always curfew if we play a home game we stay at hotels so they
could check those curfews and it's also because we have night meetings so like when we travel
usually sunday we'll have a walk through at the stadium after the walk through we pack up we put
our suits on we get in the buses it's like a fucking hour bus to providence then we hop on the
plane. When you, when you get to the plane, right before you get on the, you go straight to the
tarmac. They have tables of all the food that you get to pick. So there's cheeseburgers,
chicken sandwiches, P.B. and J's. And there's like every kind of snack you can have or want.
And then you go up, up, you walk up the stairs in the plane. You get in your seat. We had lovely
flight attendants always that were with us for the longest time.
so you'd become very personal with them,
so they knew what your drink order was.
So I always liked my electrolytes and a cramp juice,
and so I'd get to my seat, which we're hearing about how the plane was right now publicly.
All the talk.
We used to have, you know, the two, three, two plane,
and they were like kind of older seats,
but I'd have two seats, and, you know, that's how you do it.
And you'd go to your area.
They'd have your favorite stuff.
you like and then there'd be an on-flight meal um some kind of chicken can some kind of fish usually
always and maybe a beef there's there's always a three and and uh so you'd go through that and then
on the way back you'd have like homemade cookies made and stuff like on the plane the travel was
awesome. As far as traveling, I mean, the plane was, we used to go Delta and that was the best
because you had live TV. So as soon as you'd finish your one o'clock game in Buffalo,
you're watching the 445, the second half of the, the four o'clock games. That's nice.
And the plane, you know what I mean? So you're watching. And we didn't get, when they took that
away, that was kind of lame. But it was pretty cool. Like everything else, I mean, it's, it's, it's pro
sports so you have your own plane and uh and then when you get to the you land in city
there's four buses we all go to our bus you have like 45 minutes to an hour of free time
and then you have like treatments at every hotel there'll be we take out all like the conventional
area or whatever the big ballroom areas we have all that taken out so there'll be like
little film rooms so you'll have film room if you want to go watch film film there'll be a big
training room so there'll be a lot of guys in there getting their bodies ready so there'd be that
like a 45 minute hour of that and you have dinner and so then guys will start to funnel into the
cafeteria and that's where like the breaking bread and the hanging out process is and there's usually
it'd be the same kind of food there'd be a chicken a steak a pasta brown rice uh uh uh
a mariner, a meat sauce, a chicken wing night before.
And there'd be like a specialty dish of where you were at,
according to the city you were in.
Ooh, I like that.
So like Denver always had really good food.
I remember because we stayed at a really nice hotel there too.
We didn't stay in the greatest hotels.
So I don't know, you know, like I hear these basketball guys,
they have in their contracts.
They got to have like presidential suites
and they got to stay at five-star hotels.
we were always at a hotel right next to the airport,
no distractions, couldn't leave anywhere.
So then you eat, and then after you eat,
we had 7.30 meetings,
offense and team meeting,
and then you had offense and defense,
and then you'd walk through the whole game plan the night before.
In a big old ballroom, you'd walk through every play,
so that could be 60 to 75 plays as a team.
And everyone would go over and, you know,
each coach would be looking at their position group.
the lineman would go do a couple of steps and kind of say what they had to do and they would say all right we're going to us to this the receiver would do a walk to his routes in a condensed area but like all right we're running an in cut you're running the cross just to show that everyone knows what to do you know so you'd walk through those and then after that you get treatment again and by that time it's like 9.39 guys would be everyone naturally funnels into the cafeteria because the college football all.
on so guys are watching the college football getting a late night snack before everyone goes
and then I think curfew would be at like 11 and then you wake up and it's the same kind
of regiment where you go and you go to cafeteria and then you have a team meeting you guys
go through one last key before you leave we already have the hay in the bank now we get to
the stadium and then it turns into a different operation once you get to the stadium but
the travel like I was accustomed to Kent State where we were busing the place.
So I thought it was fucking awesome.
You know, I got to cheeseburg.
I can do whatever I want.
You can do busing to Muncie.
You know what I mean?
Literally, we bust a Muncie.
So it's different than the other sports because, you know, they have so many games where it's part of the light.
The road is part of their life.
Yeah.
We're taking our operation in Foxborough and we're literally bringing it to that one spot.
And we're doing everything that we do in Foxborough at that one spot.
and it's a business trip
guys are rarely going out
I mean if you had friends or family
you could get them a hotel room
no one was on your floor
no one was in your hotel room
that was conduct detrimental to the team
so you would get suspended
and you'd lose a game check
if anyone were ever on your floor
even just on the floor
can't be on the floor
well there'd be so much secure
you can get anyone through there
that's true
you know so
no candles
no nothing burning.
That's what Bill used to say.
If it burns, you can't have...
Don't come in here with...
You have incense, this, that.
If it lights, you can't have it in.
That's what I brought my dipteaks.
George, what about my bays?
Some of the most epic bill times
are when he would be explaining
the rules and regulations
of what the schedule is going to be.
Hotel?
Yes.
hotel rules
or like every year
every year
the same day
like right when you get in right after the
conditioning test you had like an hour and a half
meeting where we go over
all like the rules of the NFL
like we go over the finding for
you know players wait the this
the that how much it was if you were late
to meetings how much it was if you had a
we would go over like an hour and a half
of rules
and the way he would project
he's like
like
if it's a fucking weapon
you can't bring in here
all right light
no bows and arrows
no like he
like the way he would deliver it
would be so funny
you know it was funny
or like we were traveling
to Europe
look we're not going to be out here
fucking getting fish
fish and chips guys
like this is a fucking business trip
you see Uncle Ben on your own
time like you know what I mean
I like pepper in a little jab there and there
you know it was it was fun
I can just picture Bill being like I don't care how good
that little thing up Pringles looks at midnight
don't touch the mini bar
you can do mini bar oh yes there was no alcohol in mini bars
but oh true there you could order you could order
whatever you like you could order food now is that on the team
or is that on you that's on you you got
I think we when I first
started going. We would get a per diem.
Oh, yeah, now this is good for the travel. We would get per diem. You get a, you get an envelope.
Bears would sit and hand it out to every, you know, all the guys. It started out like 36 bucks.
We get 36 bucks for meals because they said that, you know, they had all the meals at all times at the hotel for us.
So it was like some teams would be getting like 200, 300 bucks. Oh, me? I.
which I don't know but
and then it got to like 60
but as soon as we get that money
it'd be cash
everyone would put their initials on it
and one of the flights
flight attendants would come
and get a bag
and everyone would put their initial
on their dollar
and she'd go and she'd pick two out
the first one would get the money back
and the second one would take the whole bag
yo
a lottery a plane lottery
it'd be like a G
holy smokes that rocks
do you ever win
No, I didn't do it.
Oh, you didn't do it?
No.
Okay.
That was gas money.
When I was young, I was like, that's fucking, I'm not making hell of money.
I'm not risking this 36 bucks.
Yeah.
Next up, Julian walks us through what injury rehab looks like for NFL players.
First off, you're around the team and your schedule depends on who you are.
If you're a guy that's new and he's still trying to learn the system, doesn't know this, you know,
offense or defense depending on where he is in his career they'll keep him around and they'll design
after that now the schedule usually when you tear your ACL everything's about your flexion and
extension so when you get your complete flexion and extension back that's when they'll go in
and cut it it's usually about a month depending if you have your MCL or not they want the
swelling to get out so you do a lot of prehab before you go into surgery with your ACL
And then also who manages it, your agent helps you manage it.
The team will manage it, but you are able to get second, third opinions that the team will pay for.
So if you have a doctor, if there's a knee specialist, a lot of people will go down to Anderson and Alabama, and they'll send either their film or they'll go have a visit with him and see what he says.
Team has to pay for it.
and if you pick him you you can go with him you can pick whoever you want to to operate on you
you know i would always have uh dr neola trosh out here he he's he's a close friend i'd always
get a second opinion from neal just to have you know just to keep clear thought uh pt azness did mine
he was in boston he's a boston mass general guy um and after that it's pretty routine uh now
how guys keep their muscle mass that's the biggest problem when you come back from these injuries so when
you you take your right leg take your right knee that's the number one thing you're you're trying to
build at like day one you're you're doing quad flexes to try to prevent the atrophy because once you
go in and cut and you don't move your leg you're going to lose like 20% of your leg in like the first
week it's freaking crazy so they've got a lot of things now also they have this thing called
BFR, blood flow restriction, where they'll cut pretty much the circulation off of your
leg or whatever muscle you're doing.
And so the work will be like a million times harder.
So you can essentially do like a regular squat with no weight.
And it kind of manipulates your muscle and your body to thinking you're loading your leg
to a whole other level.
So then there's some kind of thing where it'll shoot more growth horn.
hormone when you when you constrict it so a lot of guys are doing this this thing where it's like a
tourniquet they turnicate your your muscles each everyone and they work that muscle group and it's
very hard and it and it reduces the load that you put on your body but it manipulates your mind
to thinking that you're loading your body at least that's what they say so a lot of blood flow
restriction but that's the number one thing when you're coming back from injury that's what
I would always tell the doctor.
I'm like, I'm not trying to be 100%.
I'm trying to be where I was at.
You know, 100% healthy and 100% where you're at is completely different.
And that's like the last, that's the hardest part about coming back from an injury,
especially like a lower extremity injury, is the atrophy, is the endurance strength.
You can get up to your top speed, but you can only hit it one time out of five when you're
supposed to hit it five out of five.
You know what I mean?
That's what you're battling.
that's what the race is right away
is to try to get that leg
to where your other leg is
summary
schedule is
where you do it is usually about
who you are
where you are in that
that system scheme
organization
how long is that who handles it
does that mean like a veteran like a veteran
can go off through the thing
I was around the facility when I tore my
ACL but I wasn't in meetings
like a younger guy if he was a rookie
and he'd tear his ACL, he'd do his rehab
and then he'd go sit in and all the meetings and shit
because he has to still learn the install.
You know, I wasn't in that point in my career at that time.
Some guys, if you want, you could rehab it in different areas
at different places.
Just, once again, depends on who you are
and where you are in your career.
Who manages it?
Usually your agent and the head trainer, your team.
And then timeline is all depending on
what the severity of your injury is
because you have to do your prehab stuff
get the swelling out before you actually cut it
so usually they'll wait like a month after depending
and then also the recovery time
depending on what if with the ACL
what they use are you using cadaver
or using hamstring tenant or are you using
pettler tenant's a longer recovery
but a less re rupture rate
I believe
you know that that could all change
that all changes in every few years
that's what I was told
but it's that's like that's the race man what's the agent doing like so the agent's communicating with
the he's communicating with team so like he'll say hey do you want to get a second opinion
and i'll say yeah set it up okay so he'll hit up agent will hit up team and second doctor
and have put everything together so you have multi you can have anyone do your surgery
that that's you know the league will take care of that
Now, if you're on the active roster
Has there ever been like an instance that you've seen
where the second opinion is like vastly different
and it becomes a thing that they have to work through?
You got to take all that with a grain of salt.
Some of these doctors just want to
Oh, you need to be the guy.
I saw.
Hey, what about it?
All right, buddy.
I got to do it or what?
Are my cutting or not?
Shoot me straight, Doc.
Shoot me straight.
I'm out for eight, about for 10.
Because there have been some instances in the history of sports
with like players having disagreements.
Yeah, but I haven't had that like,
yeah.
ACL is such a routine freaking injury now.
30 years ago, we're different.
40 years ago, you know, you're retiring.
Yeah.
Now it's like Tommy John, you come back stronger.
Crazy.
Did you do cadaver?
No, I went to tell or tenant.
Oh, nice.
No one does a cadaver when you're playing.
Oh, okay.
Cadver is the most re-rupture rate.
It's usually for like the non-athletic people.
people that are, or people that are not going to, like, physically demand their knee.
So, Kurt probably went cadaver.
Definitely, cadaver.
Or hamstring tenant.
I'm kidding.
I'm just kidding.
And a lot of the guys don't want to mess with their hamstring tenant because we're speed guys.
Yeah.
Right.
You don't want to touch any of that.
And so if you are in a schedule where you are in the facility or you're younger and you're
near the team, you're going to games too.
You're in the facility during games.
But not probably traveling with team.
we didn't travel as hurt guys like my my year when i tore my eos i was i was there but i wasn't
i was rehabbing like all day i was rehab you know what i mean so like yeah it's it's it's a it's a lonely
it can be a lonely place for an athlete is when you're hurt i can only imagine man man that was
awesome the calls are always great always keep them coming guys keep them coming i love those inside
like deep dives, like inside of the life
of a professional athlete.
Like we had a clip when you talked about travel
that did really well.
So more of that stuff.
Keep pulling back to curtain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, oh, they don't test for wheat no more,
but hey, they took away our pension.
We won that one.
We won that one, guys.
Now we got Jules telling us
about the worst workout the players had to do.
This one's for you, man.
Nick Fleetwood, 2146, said,
Jules, what is one lift slash workout?
You will never do again.
i.e. hill sprints, tire flips, etc.
Ah, bout runs.
Ooh, I've heard of those.
I'm never doing bout runs again.
What is a bout run?
A bout run is where you have to run a hunter.
So you start on one goal line and you run to the other goal line for three straight minutes
and you have to get 785 yards.
So you have to go, touch a line, go back.
It's just a constant run.
but the slowing and stopping down
I think you have to average like 16 miles an hour
it's fucking it's hard so you said it's three minutes
three minutes to do like 7885 yards
so then like that's down and back like seven and four and a half
times so like three and a half three times like
down back stop and it's like if you haven't reached here
if you don't stop you don't make it
what's the ramifications for someone who doesn't get there
uh you may have to go and do more extra sprints
like you may have to like come in and there's like an earth there's fat camp and then there's like
non-conditioning camp and so sometimes guys that aren't in conditioning or don't make the
conditioning test like this is off-season usually but if you don't make the conditioning test you
have to wake up at 5 a.m. or you have to be at the facility at 5 a.m. and do conditioning before
the day starts until you pass the conditioning test more like how about we never do these again
How about we never do these again?
I've missed you, Jack.
Yeah, I just renamed them for you, Coach.
Yeah.
Let's do...
We got any more than here that jump out to you, okay?
Yeah, let's do like one more.
It's like some soccer shit, though.
Like, we're not a soccer guy.
We're fucking line up.
We're like dragsters.
Perfect segue.
Okay?
Perfect segue.
Perfect segue.
From Darren Shields 18.
Would be great to get a football soccer player on here to do the best game
ever. So he's referring to football.
Yeah, we got to get some
football. We've only had brandy so far. Yeah. That's wild.
We've got to get our numbers up. We've got to get Harry
Kane on this bitch. You got to, man.
Byron Munich. Maybe we got to fly over to Germany.
Games with names Deutsche Land. I know.
That'd be tight. That'd be tight.
Let's see this one here. Jules, this is from the Stavi episode. A recent
fan favorite. Man, I wish I was here for that one
in purse. This is from C-Donk, 5735.
As a die-hard Pats fan, I love Edelman, but ranch with Greek food is a disgrace.
It's when I order Greek.
I'm not like going to a fucking Greek restaurant, bringing a Hidden Valley little pocket ranch with me.
You know, I keep that thing on me.
Who's going to, like a good ranch with like a kebab, chicken kebab and shit?
I think it's good.
Who's saying no to that?
I'm with you.
Okay.
I'm with you.
You can take the kid out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer out the kid.
At its core, it's a creamy sauce with some zest, baby.
What goes, I mean, jeez, I'm with you on this one.
I'll defend your tooth and nail.
Sorry.
I'm also a guy who loves A1 on everything too, so judge me if you want.
Shout out A1 sauce.
Shout out A1 Auto.
Steak ain't right without the A1W, so I stay dipped in sauce and they come.
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