Games with Names - Julian Edelman Reacts to Patriots Loss to Bills & NFL Week 15

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Jules is reacting to the Patriots loss to the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, plus some of the other notable games and news across the NFL after a wild Week 15. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnam...es.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? My sister was shot 22 times. A police officer, right? But what do you do when the monster is the man in blue? This dude is the devil. He'll hurt you. This is the story of a detective who thought he was above the law until we came together to take him down. I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it.
Starting point is 00:00:55 When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past, one that could destroy. everything he thought he knew. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product.
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Starting point is 00:02:50 Let's get into it. We have to start off. Do we have to? We have to. The Bills versus the Pats. rematch to end the series in Foxborough between no we're not that far
Starting point is 00:03:10 okay we're not that far Buffalo beats New York Buffalo beats New England in week five rematch after starting 20 oh 21 skunk we we had a skunk if this was a matting game
Starting point is 00:03:26 we would have turned it off we would have turned it off it would have been the next player on yeah what's your big takeaway from this from this game big takeaways Josh Allen's MVP who I know we're going to jump into it later in the show but you know you first half looked good Drake did it with his legs had a couple good throws everything was going all right but you got you make your name in that second half of these kind of games and Josh Allen in the second half five straight touchdowns yeah five straight touchdowns yeah they got the the running game going now you you definitely saw how deficient the defense for the Patriots was without Milton Williams in a got to have it type game you
Starting point is 00:04:18 they're they were undermanned but so is the buffalo bills everyone is at this part of the so is everyone else i think my ultimate reaction action was josh allen's MVP two patriots may have needed to have this loss going into this back end of the it's not unrealistic to see buffalo again in the it's not three the game seemed a little seemed a little too bright for the patriots at the end when it was nut cutting time it was nut cutting time I mean two three and outs in the second half you know
Starting point is 00:04:58 you turn over on downs when you needed it needed something this could have been the moment where Drake could have been like if Drake would have had a moment in the second half where they go out and he would have been an MVP talk still yeah couldn't get a stop on defense couldn't get a stop on defense
Starting point is 00:05:16 a lot of I mean we need to talk about penalties a lot of tiki tiki penalties but just couldn't get off the field everyone wants it like that's i we were sitting here talking about this game with all my boston you know my my group of people that we we go over and recap all the games and everyone's like oh the penalty no you're up 27 to 7 or 20 24 to 7 a half time okay there's going to be penalties you know and that's not going to make or break the game the going three and out uh we'll make a break a game. The kickoff out of halftime for
Starting point is 00:05:50 58 yards or whatever it was will break the game. You know, I took a 35 minute nap. I went to bed because I get up on Sundays. I get up at 4 a.m. to go do Fox kickoff and then I come back. I'll
Starting point is 00:06:06 start to watch the beginning slate and then I usually I'll nap for that second quarter. And I go to sleep. It's 24-7. I wake up the patriots are losing like that that is crazy to me yeah you know the defense needed to find something in the second half no adjustments clearly the buffalo bills made adjustments at half absolutely and i also think as as cool as that second henderson touchdown was like they had no
Starting point is 00:06:40 run game and you let the defense on the field so long in the second half you know quick strike You score a touchdown great. It's awesome, but, like, defense got to breathe. Pass rush wasn't there. There was no pass rush in the second half. There's the touchdown where Josh Allen had in the red area. He could have ran that in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:59 You know, there was, where was our rush lane integrity? Yeah. But look, that's why, that's why they're the defending AFC's champions. You know? it's it's that was the Josh Allen game what are some and cooks cooks cook's ball too what are some what are some positives here we're obviously a Patriots fan base show what are some positives here from the Patriots what can they take away from this game positives
Starting point is 00:07:30 Trayvion Henderson yep that's a positive going in to playoff time uh you know they really didn't rush the ball that much because they were held off the field all second half they had they had 20 rushes and you know look remandre had 148 on 14 Stevenson had six on 50 they had good run games going it's just you got to be able to convert on third down red area foes they were two for three but activated drake may a little bit more and you got to run sounds earlier that was early though yeah that was early you know the A lot of the topic of conversation has been Patriots
Starting point is 00:08:16 kind of bad in red area. Penalties to start of this game. Successful there. A lot of penalties off-sided too. Just, I mean, you know, also, like we said earlier, this could help them.
Starting point is 00:08:34 You know, to show that, no, like 10-game winning streaks aren't, yeah, like just real. It's, after you, start winning like that you you know you got to be able to play you got to continue to play good football you're not going to slap it out there in the second half against defending aFC's
Starting point is 00:08:56 champions and think that they're not going to come back it's a good lesson to learn for a young team this point great lesson to learn but they got to pick it up because they got they got to go out and beat baltimore now yeah that's now a sunday night game sunday night football baltimore baltimore baltimore i mean i don't know if we're going over that game, but Bengals basically just quit. They quit on the season. That touchdown, the Kyle Van Nuoy to. How about Van Nuoy?
Starting point is 00:09:24 He says, he's a smart player. Yeah. He was probably thinking, I got to go to, if I run this thing back and we score real quick, I'm going to be on the field quicker. I need to get my, my rest of recovery, give it to young guy, go score. Yeah. Also, Travis Scott. What was the turnover?
Starting point is 00:09:44 Interception The punt Yeah the arm punt That was it Yeah and it just That's some controversy about another one But Oh the Marcus Jones
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah Tie goes the runner Yeah I've heard that twice now this year About the tie goes to the offense On a catch I've never heard that in my life It's true
Starting point is 00:10:11 You guys get all the breaks on offense Give one for the defense but I've never heard the tie goes to there's never been yeah I've never heard that rule yeah it's the first time I've heard I've heard it twice now tie goes to the receiver yeah if it's if it's a shared possession of a and it's a catch it's a shared possession it goes to the offensive player it's happened a few times I've I I I know but I've specifically heard it this year um what else about this now you know put yourself in your like their shoes right you played their you had situations like this is this uh what are you taking away from this game what are you
Starting point is 00:10:49 talking about today like how do you what can you do to you know learn or whatever from this game look boys this is a reminder how delicate these games are every play matters that third down coming out of the half that third down that we came out a half after we just let them score may not no one remembers it but that third down could have been the play or the next third down or the next first down or the next like every play matters every play to this point has to have that much focus and urgency you know and that and that's what this can be a reminder of man they were close that they had an opportunity to win it right there but look now is buffalo going to catch them they could
Starting point is 00:11:44 Patriots do have the, I think, easiest final schedule at anyone in the NFL. Yeah, but Miami's playing tough. Miami's frisky. Baltimore's got some stuff going on. Miami's playing tonight on a four-game heater, right? Yeah. Against Steelers.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah. In Steelers? Yeah. I think it might be. Yeah. But, all right. Buffalo, Cleveland is. at Cleveland. Miles Garrett is won away.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Won away. Yeah. Get it and Josh Allen give myself up. What did I say? I blacked out on what I just said because I'm so pissed off about that. But look, this is a young football team. They don't know how to finish games yet. Learn a lesson. Learn a lesson. I think you're right about going into the postseason. Let's say they won the last games on a long win streak. It's like those like undefeated NCAA basketball college teams when they're undefeated. you just got to lose one get it out of the way oh for one on fourth five for ten on third too many penalties i mean they they just things were clicking in that first half yeah got to be able to adjust
Starting point is 00:13:01 yeah bounce back next week bounce back next week let's take a look at some of the storylines from the rest of week 15 philip rivers philip river finished the game that's a plus almost one they got close that's another plus 120 yards one touchdown good of 18 for 27 one pick
Starting point is 00:13:24 they're gonna make this a Disney movie what would you call it the old gray mayor I don't know I got nothing I don't know what I would call it but they had an opportunity to win yeah and it went
Starting point is 00:13:43 as best as it could have possibly went for that situation. Also, like, old or whatever, he was off the street a week ago. No, this is impressive as hell. This is, this is going to raise the Achilles' tear rate for all 38 to 50 people because of him coming out off the street. Don't put that on him. No, people are going to tear their Achilles left and right because Philip Rivers came in with a beer belly
Starting point is 00:14:16 and competed against NFL athletes and made it through a game. Because now every, every joker thinks that they could just come off the street and go play in their local basketball game or their flag football game. You were with Tom in studio yesterday at Fox, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Was he getting a little, you know, was he looking at this with a little steely eye? that just confirmed to me that if Tom Tom could still win a Super Bowl for the Raiders no not for the Raiders not with that offensive line if you protect Tom
Starting point is 00:14:55 on the Colts nah I don't know about the Colts either he'd have to go to like the Chiefs no not the Chiefs he'd have to go to like Philadelphia but they don't have to go to like Philadelphia but they don't have
Starting point is 00:15:11 line he'd have to go to solid out o line look this was awesome to see i mean he didn't throw a ball over 15 18 yards yeah but he got them in the right plays he he executed the screen game very well i mean this was it was fun to watch it was much must watch tv i was watch i was glued to it i was like what's he gonna do he was like farting that thing out there he'd shoot that they guys would he would throw the out route you see that one and then the guy would try to break it up and he was too early and then the ball would come it's like a change up it was it was it was it was fucking awesome to see that but i i do want to see the achilles rate for men 38 to 50 after this oh my hey Peyton manning want to sue both and do the line
Starting point is 00:16:04 can be done um my homes chiefs it's got to be said the chiefs were out of the playoffs before my homes towards ACL regardless that's just that was terrible yeah but you know I mean all good things come to an end yeah I'll be back will they in some capacity yeah they're gonna be back like yeah yeah they're gonna be back like yeah yeah but they got they got a they got a lot of holes yeah they got a they got to make some roster moves some hard roster moves they got to hit on the draft got to hit on the draft they got to hit on the draft they got to got to find some gems yeah which you know yeah and then micha parsons also ACL is it confirmed i think so yeah that changed the dynamic of that hold that whole conference they know who that makes
Starting point is 00:16:58 me more scared of the niners okay you know because once once they get in shanahan all the experience they have in the playoffs Shann's at a beat up defense the whole year and they're like these beat up defensive guys are starting to come together. Yeah. They're starting to become, I mean, they gave a boatload of yards in the rush game to Titans, but they play complimentary football.
Starting point is 00:17:25 They become more scary because Michael Parsons towards ACL and Watson's out. I think enough, I feel. Yeah. Devonty Adams and the hamstring, that could be huge for this week's Thursday night matchup against the Seattle Seahawks. That's a big game. That's a huge game.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Pooka had like 200 yards. 187. Yeah. Puka. He's, he's just, he's just brute strong and he's got a little basketball to him. He can go up and get balls.
Starting point is 00:18:02 He does a lot of dirty work. A lot of run after catch, run through contact. Is he the best receiver in the NFL right now? No, no, I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go that far. He's damn good. Yeah. Because of the play caller and the quarterback he has.
Starting point is 00:18:19 He's a great fit for that offense. He's a great fit for that offense. But when it comes to sheer, like, I don't know, he's, he's bawling. Yeah. He's in the conversation. But, I mean, JSN's pretty elite at his route running. Yeah. If you put Jefferson on.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Jamar Chase, like, I think Jamar Chase can do everything. Yeah. Like, he can do everything. But, I mean, as far as, like, route running,
Starting point is 00:18:47 yards after catch, 50, 50 balls. The one thing that Puka, his route running versus man coverage, he gets open because he's just so damn big and physical with guys. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:03 that was scary when he went down too with the foot for a second that was that would have been real bad but look those lions they've they've developed this 13 package that everyone's been talking about on every fucking broadcast which is one running back three tight ends and you know that whole thing that can help them going from here on out because they're not so relying on the receivers and they can play matchup game and when you're in those 10s, types of personnel groups you get very vanilla coverage and so that's why you see those a lot so then if you have guys that are smart enough you could spread them out you can manipulate coverage with those packages so i there there's still this this week's going to be a huge game because sam darnold
Starting point is 00:19:53 he hadn't been playing his best in these last few weeks we're starting to get i see go sammy which happened this time last year with Minnesota. But that defense, that defense is really good. How about these Jacksonville Jaguars? No one wants to talk about them. Trevor Lawrence going out, throwing five touchdowns, rushing for one, rushing for 50 yards. And they're defense is good.
Starting point is 00:20:21 What's their remainers? They're these dudes. They've got at Brom. The Broncos, tough game. Tough game. Then they got at Colts. Colts. And then they got Titans at home.
Starting point is 00:20:36 That's tough guys. Titans. I mean, they just got to beat the, no, I mean, really, it's the Broncos. Yeah. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. Broncos, you got to give, we got to give a little flower to Bo Nix. That was a big game for Bo Nix.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And they needed that offensive performance against a good football team. Bo Nix throws for four touchdowns. thread and needle not just catching runs hitting seam routes hitting deep backside corner all all you like they he had some seeds yeah he gets so happy in that pocket with his feet but you know you watch you watch him sometimes that i guess that's the way he plays because he seems like he's in control but is he in control but is he out of control it's a fine line but he doesn't turn the ball over i like him with sean peyton that's what you like in that defense a defense is really good too i mean nick but it was really impressive like the packers played
Starting point is 00:21:35 him tough that first half didn't have a sack broncos didn't have a sack for the first half which i think was like the first time in like a million years that they haven't done that and but that that that that broncos pass rush is like water there's a crack in there he's gonna find his way through and that's what happened at the end of that thing you see benito and cooper they when they get tucked up and like in their little jet four point stance and then they fucking just come off and they collapse the there was one time where they just both blew the tackles right into the lap of jordan love and like i think the tackle got the sack A butt sack?
Starting point is 00:22:29 No, but I think Alan scooped off and got it because they got big interior guys. The Roach guy's really good, too. Is there a Roach over in that team? I was watching some Roach guy was fucking bawling at D tackle. Like, they look good. This is going to, is this the year of the defense? Malcolm Roach. Is this the year of the defense?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Could be. I mean, who's going to, or is Matt, every year is the year of the defense. Is it? Not like this. because once you get in the playoffs you have Josh Allen who doesn't have a defense and then there's going to be all teams that with great defenses
Starting point is 00:23:04 and he hasn't won a championship. Shit, they might just break the laws of football. Let's wrap this thing up. Real quick, we were going to talk a little bit about the MVP race. It's either Stafford or Allen right now. Drake may, it was great, but like we need one more year.
Starting point is 00:23:24 We got to get the floaties off. Can I throw, you might like poo-poo this, but can I throw Justin Herbert in the mix just because what the Chargers are doing and how they're doing it. They have no offensive line. He's like willing them to win games. They're 5 and 0 in the AFC West.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Look, I mean, it doesn't look great. He's not putting up the stats, but they're winning fucking games. No, it's that he is putting up. He's getting sacked five times a game the last four weeks. Yeah. I was so impressed when he,
Starting point is 00:23:53 when I saw him six, six nights. out of surgery, put his hand under center and take a snap. He was doing, he was fucking doing stiff arms. Yeah, you know, and I went on Fox kickoff, and I always talk about how I like big men at the quarterback. I always talk about Herbert, but big men can get hurt too.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Big men can get hurt in this league, too. And I don't know what Madison Beer is doing over there to take care of him for recovery. But that, that is. impressive to go out there and be able to play with a broken hand stiff arm jokers put your hand under take a snap on broken hand and somehow win NFL games because they are i don't know if it's a product of them winning those games or playing teams that have been losing really yeah the defense minters got the defense going they're physical yeah to go into arrowhead and then
Starting point is 00:24:58 Beat the Chiefs. And that's a got to have. That's a playoff game for the Chiefs. That's a playoff game for both. Because look, the Chargers need it. You look at the back end of their schedule. They got a fucking gauntlet. Look at the Chief or Chargers.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I talked about it on our show. They got both bad, the best defense lines. They got Broncos, Houston. You got at Cowboys. They got Texans at home and then at Broncos. Yeah, that's a tough thing. Yeah, but now that Cowboys game just got a whole lot easier. I was really disappointed with the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Went on a limb. You know, I've been talking about them. And I'm like not even a Cowboys guy. I honestly don't like the Cowboys at all. But I've gained a respect for Dak and this Cowboys and what Jerry's kind of done. Like when everyone's Zigging, he zags on this thing. Now they're going to have options next year.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And I think they can build off this. I like Brian. I like Shottie, the head coach. He's been doing good things. But you got to win these games. He had two games. They got, you know, they beat Philly, Kansas City. They get in that three game heater.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Then they. trick it off to the lions trick it off to these Minnesota Vikings that was come on Cowboys man making me look dumb
Starting point is 00:26:13 making me look dumb I think that's the perspective of most Cowboys fans too made me look dumb man I just want Jerry I was all Jerry side all right let's wrap this up well let's wrap it up this it's cream season this is cream season right now this is officially cream
Starting point is 00:26:35 season week 16 now 15 in the books hit the comments if you want us to keep on doing these weekly recaps send us some comments the night before or whatever on what we should recap or questions we can answer or questions we can answer a new games with names tomorrow we got WWE legend Seth Rallens. Seth knows ball. He's been on, I've seen him on NFL kickoff
Starting point is 00:27:00 or what's he been on NFL Network. Yeah, he's been on there for like two weeks and he knows ball. Yeah, he's a big, Bears fan.
Starting point is 00:27:07 We get into it. It's great. He loves the Bears. Cody Rhodes. It's a matchup with Cody Rhodes. Yeah, very good one. It's good,
Starting point is 00:27:15 good episode. And then new dudes on dudes dropping this Thursday. Maybe Friday. Maybe Friday? Scheduling with Rob. Scheduling with Rob. He's been everywhere.
Starting point is 00:27:24 He's been everywhere. the gronk bowl was fun it was fun yeah we had way better seats than last year did you yeah we were like one box over in the end zone and like you can't like that seat everyone was in the way there was like wide open so you could just you were on the field you could see it was cool uh washington kicks the shit out of boise state was that jedfish yeah i should have i had a soccer tournament so i couldn't make it which honestly i probably should have just went because our girls did didn't have any effort got their fucking teeth kicked in got their teeth kicked in i don't know what we were doing we were we were out there picking daisies because we weren't playing we were not
Starting point is 00:28:07 picking we weren't playing soccer and we were on a turf field so that's how that tells you how the daisy picking win all right like and subscribe like and subscribe we'll do the uh we'll do some youth girls soccer recap next week who would you call if the unthinkable happened My sister was shot 22 times. A police officer, right? But what do you do when the monster is the man in blue? This dude is the devil. He'll hurt you. This is the story of a detective who thought he was above the law,
Starting point is 00:28:38 until we came together to take him down. I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get to. your podcast. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late.
Starting point is 00:29:09 He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause? Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past, one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product.
Starting point is 00:29:40 With every sip, you get a little something different. Visit Gentleman's Cut Bourbon.com or your nearest Total Wines or Bevmo. This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit Gentleman'scuturban.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Hey, everybody, it's Chuck and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast,
Starting point is 00:30:03 and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 days of Christmas toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it the first time we detailed the history of Beanie Babies, Monopoly, or Yo-Yo's, and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers?
Starting point is 00:30:35 Who catfishes a city? Is it even safe to snort human remains? Is that the plot of Footloose? I'm comedian Rory Scoville, and I'm here to tell you, Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. It's called Crimeless. True Crime Comedy Podcast. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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