Games with Names - Keegan Bradley on the 2024 Presidents Cup

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

Keegan Bradley is in studio! The PGA TOUR vet and Ryder Cup Captain is with us to relive an all-timer: The 2024 Presidents Cup. Together, we're talking about everything from golfing with Tom Brady and Michael Jordan to the 2018 AFC Championship game.  (0:00) We kick things off. (01:37) Keegan joins us on the couch. (49:25) We go back to September 2024. (1:02:12) We look at the teams. (1:16:17) We relive the match. (1:33:01) We score it. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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2024 president's cup. Welcome to games with names. I'm Julian. They're Jack and Kyler. And we are on a mission to find the greatest game of all time. And today we have a great episode with Keegan Bradley, PGA Tour, veteran writer cup captain, Kegan Bradley.

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All right. Let's interview, I guess. We are looking at the 2024 President's Cup, USA versus everyone else but Europe, international, with the one and only Keegan Bradley. Keegan, welcome to the Nutt House. Thank you. Welcome to Nutt House. In one sentence, why this match?

So for me, it had been 10 years since I played on a team event or United States. And, you know, one of the things as golfers, we crave the team atmosphere. We don't get the locker room. We don't get the raw, raw. We don't get all the stuff that you team guys get. And we just, we crave that feeling. Because when I walk in the locker room, I may like this person, but you're my opponent. And then now we're in a locker room where we're all in this together. And it's something that we just crave. Is this the greatest match of all time? No. No. What it is? The greatest rider cup of all time? Match anything. Anything. Well, I wouldn't put this as one of the best. This is one of my favorites. But I, you know, I had a lot of, you know, selfishly had a lot of pride making this team. Because I went through a point in my career where I thought I was going to play on every single one of these teams.

I was going to play on 10 teams and that was just what I did at this time of year. and then I got to a point in my career where I literally had a conversation with myself and said, you need to give this up. You need to let this go because it was killing me, like truly killing me. And I remember driving in my car and thinking, like, this has to be out of your mind now because, like, you can't go through this every year. And, you know, the year prior, the Rome Rider Cup, I was right on the edge of making the team and I didn't make the team.

And it crushed me. and my family. And then, you know, to get back and to make this team was one of the happiest, most special accomplishments of my career. Definitely. I mean, it's always, it's always the year after the hard. Yeah. Is always the always the best. Like when you're in the absolute dog days of wherever you are, I mean, I remember specifically for me, it brought me when you talk about this, it brought me to when I tore my ACL in 17, and I came back the next year and we go on and win a Super Bowl that year, that was the most gratifying, the best feeling because of where it started that year. Right. You know what I mean? It's those overcoming

adversity type things that fucking get you the most in the heart I feel. Yeah, I like to look at it like getting gifts like not making that rider cup team at Rome I was given this gift of just you know motivation but also like I had this to use for an entire year

and you know throughout my life throughout my career I didn't grow up in the same atmosphere as a lot of the players on tour I grew up in New England I grew up in Vermont and then later in Boston and I didn't I could only play six months out of the year I didn't get recruited to college. You know, I always felt overlooked. And I've had to find these things in my

career to like push me forward. And this was a, this was a great gift that was given to me. And I, I just love, I actually prefer to have something like that than it'd all be really good all the time. I just love that, you know, that, all right, now, now what are you going to do? Are you going to be a little, little baby about this? Or you're going to get off your ass and work as hard as you can and make this next team and that's what we did. He just gave me a Boston look when he said, I was unfucking southy or something. You go be a baby about this?

Holy shit. You got you all jacked up. I want to let the audience know real quick that the actual game Keegan chose was the 2018 AFC championship game Patriots versus Chiefs. Yes, and I would much prefer to talk about that. Ball, Norfolk. That's a ball knower pick. And we would love to talk that with you,

but we never had a golf wrong to talk about golf. I, but what do you remember about that game? So for me, this is what I loved about that game, because it felt like this was the end of the Patriots, the core group. And it felt like everyone, and I remember that going into that game, it was in Kansas City,

and I remember this was the time Kansas City was going to take the take over here. And it just, I actually rewatched the game. in preparation, and I didn't realize the start. I mean, it was a quick touchdown, and then Brady threw a pick in the, in the, in the end zone. We were about to go 14-0 on them. I couldn't believe. I was, I never, you don't ever remember Brady doing anything like that, ever.

But I just, I loved what that game represented. It was, we're still here. I already, the name of the game was going to be the We're Still Here game. Oh, yeah. I was going to change the name. But I, I loved watching. You had a couple huge third down catch. in that first drive and in the end in the second drive.

Yeah. And it was just cool for me to like revisit. I think sports are so important. And I think they mean more than just winning championships because it floods back memories of me watching with my wife, with my friends. And then watching you run around on third down, it's like, it's third and four. Who's this going to? Where's Julie?

There he is. I see him. Sure enough, you guys red gloves. And I just loved rewatching it. And I just loved that game. I think it encompasses everything about Brady, Belichick, you, gronk. I just loved it.

And then to go on and win the Super Bowl, spectacular. Yeah, you know, that was a fun one. And that was a special one because to that point, that specific generation Patriot never won the road in the playoff. Right. You know, we get those first round buys every year. Yeah. Home free.

That's first and second back in the old day. First and second. and got buys. We'd end up in Denver and we'd lose the Denver. We lost Denver twice. That's why this year's Patriots team, going into Denver with a young football team, getting that win was super impressive.

What is the Denver thing? Is it the altitude? No. It was running out of bodies. You know, it's a lot of, a lot of the NFL season's luck on health of team. Yes.

I mean, the crowd is, I mean, they also had, they have an insane playing environment. The crowd's always super into it. And they had a defensive alignment by the name Vaughn Miller that was in the backfield before Brady said hike. Like, because they know how to time up that snap count, we had to invent a double Denver, a snap count.

Double silent snap count for Denver after we lost there a couple times. Wow. Because it was always, it's always a tough place to play. And I just always wondered. It has to be really good teams too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're phenomenal teams.

Yeah. You know, you got Vaughn and the boys in the no-fly zone with. you know, Ward and and Telib, Akeve and then, you know, you got Peyton Man on the other side.

Yeah. Those were always tough teams. But you guys just kicked off the new season for golf. And when you said you like having gifts, you know, to motivate you, what's the gift this year going into this season? Well,

you know, I still feel, even this is my 16th year on the tour. Cheesh! Yeah. Let's fuck. fucking go. Yeah, it's pretty good.

Let's go. I never would have, never would have imagined. And I'm still kicking their ass in year 16. Still. That's right, baby. Yeah. But I still feel like I have so much to prove. I have never, everyone, everyone always tells me like, you know, as you get old, you can get complacent or you can, you know, you're not trying to play for money anymore.

You've never, if anything, I get more, like, concerned. Like, I just still feel like I have a lot to prove. And for us, I mean, you know, you're not. I mean, you guys have the Super Bowl, but we have the four majors. So we have four Super Bowls a year. Yeah. And when you win a major, like that, that's the ultimate. And so you have a chance four times a year to really make history and really, you know, make your mark on the tour.

And what's really fun for me now, too, is I have two little boys who are both huge Patriot fans. And actually, Mike Cooper, my oldest, my youngest was you for Halloween two years ago. Was he? Oh, Coup? No, coo? but I have I'm it's fun for me to like show them that there's my oldest is age starting to get it. Oh yeah. And like I want to show them that their dad can still play.

And I also want to go out there and I want to, I still want to beat everybody. Like I had this mentality when I first came out on tour of like I was so angry at everybody. And I wanted to like beat them bad. And I think that held me back from from creating friendships on the tour. and now I have this different approach where I don't feel like they are of my enemies but I still want to beat him. And I still want to prove to myself

that I can go out there and play at the highest level and win big tournaments. Yeah, you know, when you're young, you're just full of piss and vinegar. I was the same way. I wasn't key keen before. No. Games with the guys.

You get older, you get a little more wise. Yeah. You kind of settle down and you think about it differently. You know, it's, It's crazy. 16 years. What's something you would tell yourself right now that you've learned along the 16 years of playing in the PGA on the tour?

What would you tell your young self? I would tell myself to enjoy it more. Same thing. Everybody said, I mean, we on the same team or something? I didn't like cherish anything. In my rookie year, I won the PGA championship, which is a major. And it's this beautiful trophy. It's like this.

I think it's the coolest trophy in golf. It's called the Watermaker. And I put in my closet. I didn't look at it for like a couple years. And I didn't enjoy a single second of my success with anything. Rider Cups, President's Cups, winning tournaments. You know, I just was like, all right, on to the next thing. And now when I play and I win a tournament, I literally will stand on the 18th Green and like look around

and like remember what it smells like, what it sounds like. I try to look into the crowd and look at people and try to try to let this in. You know, and I think it's natural. Like I'm sure every athlete says that, but I really would enjoy it more. And I wouldn't be so hard on myself. I would try to cultivate more friendships on the tour. Again, these guys are my opponents, but... See them a lot.

You see them a lot. And it's a much happy... These guys now on the tour, they're all like best friends. and they live a happier life. They're a little softer these days. They are, yeah. But they, they, you know what? It's really interesting to see and it's genuine.

They're genuinely happy for one another. I know. I didn't feel that when I was young. I know, it's hard. It's hard. I remember seeing it in the locker room too. Yeah. You know, just the transformation of people are just.

I think it's, I mean, I always felt it was a weakness, sign of weakness. Yeah. And like I wouldn't even, I would even, like, there's a specific player that I can think of, the nicest person in the world. And I would have an interaction with him and I'd be like, he's full of shit. He doesn't, he doesn't believe that. And I would come up with this shit in my mind. And I think back now how like, demented that is. But that's who I was.

That's kind of what I think when Tom's like harping on me about like health and nutrition. Like this fucking guy, he's eating a chicken wing behind his back. By the way, when is he going to come in here? You know, every time I, turn the TV on. You're at one of his... I know. You know, it's, it's not a, it's not a, um, which game do you think he'd choose? Which game would he? He'd probably choose like, the first one maybe, the kickoff. Yeah. I don't know. Nah. We've already prepped for 28 to 3. 28 to 3. I think we're doing, I feel like 28 to 3 is like too mainstream. I didn't, I'm right. I'm gonna, what would be?

I was at that game. What would be, you're there? Oh my gosh. My Tom Brady game. I, so with, you, you, now you put me on the spot here, because this is a serious question. But, I mean, for me, that first Super Bowl, I,

when John Madden says, what Tom Brady just did here gives me the chills. Like, I was in my basement in Vermont, like, living and dying about this. And obviously,

we didn't know he was Tom Brady. Yeah. And to watch him march down the field and then Vinutari, like, to me, like, that would be the game.

But I'm sure, I bet you he would choose an obscure like Buffalo game or he threw it perfect or something. I don't know what game he would pick. Honestly, I don't think he would. The Titans game? The snow would be a fun one. Six in the first half.

I told Julian this when we got here, but my favorite games with names moment was when Ernie Adams at the Tennessee game went down to the field that saw they were in the wrong spikes. There's the wrong cleats. We're going to kill him. We're going to kill him. What was it? 45 to 7?

Yeah. Sevens does or whatever. The most like non-complacent guy ever either when it comes to pregame. But once he sees the cleats are wrong. We got him. Well, because like as a Patriot fan, you, you think that all this is going on. That like, of we've got the better cleats, we've got the wind is better.

We know where to go. And like to hear him talk like that and to hear his insight to get a look behind the curtain with him. I mean, for a Patriot fan, like I never expected to hear. this side of him. Well, we got to congratulate Ernie Adams for being the head coach of. Philip Sandover. Isn't that where we went to high school?

High school. Varsity? Yeah, him and Belichick went there. So he's head coach. Yeah. I think interim. But that's fucking awesome for them. You imagine him.

We need a hard knocks version. We want to get the cameras out there. Actually, Jack, let's delete that. Let's do that. That's for Bradshaw. You don't get that for free. Freaking, man. So him talking to a 16 year old

Can you just imagine that? Yeah, I can. He was talking to me when I was like 19, 20. It was pretty hard. Did you communicate with him? Oh, yeah. He used to get early nuggets. Well, I was kind of, you know, I was around a lot in the locker room early on.

Throughout my whole career, I was just around, happy to be there, especially in like the early part of my career. And he would always be there and no one would ever talk to him. And like, finally one day, I must. up some courage like what's up ernie how you doing he was like eating his tomato tomato he'd eat it like a like a no he would get a fork in knife and you put a little a little was it salt or pepper just pepper no salt yes on a hairloon tomato like every day whatever they're called and uh i went up to him i just started talking to him and he gave me like you know on this punter like he gave me like

some tip on the punter we were playing that week you know you're gonna watch him he'll shank it and he's got a Nazi or something. And so I would just always go up to him, like, joking around, and he would throw me a nugget of something for the opposing team we're about to play. Now, do you think even this many years later, Ernie and Bears called Belichick to say, hey, I'm going to go on games with names. Is this okay?

Or do you think, have we crossed over into the, they could do whatever they want? I think they could do whatever they want, but I think they would only come on with the, blessing of him. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.

But they're their own men. Bears was very nervous though. Bears was very nervous. I was shocked to see bears. We didn't even really pepper bears. I know. We let him off the hook. We let him off the hood.

We all wanted to do more, but this is a family establishment here on games with names. We don't like to. I love it. I got into no bears over the years into like, as a Patriot fan, to, to,

I don't, I've never met Ernie. but to just like hear them even talk on here is you always hear the rumors of these people but they're like they're like mythical figures and then when you see a picture of Ernie, you're like, oh yeah, that's what he would look like. That's exactly him.

Exactly. Yeah, it was just incredible. It's so great. Now, what do you think the current state of golf is right now? What are we looking at with the Liv Tour PGA? We're getting guys coming back. What's going on? Honestly, I think it's incredible.

Yeah. there isn't an aspect of my career that has suffered from any of this. If anything, everything's way better for us. You know, the purses have gone way up. We're playing a different schedule now. We're all playing together at the same events. I have friends that went to live. And I have no issues. I never did. I think when, like as a free agent, you're going to go around. We've, we've never been able to be free agents in our life. So these guys are able to figure out, okay, you play for the Patriots forever. You're a free agent.

Let's see what we got. And then this other team's going to pay me 10 times, you know, 20 times, whatever it is. Or, I mean, we don't get any money up front ever. So I don't have any issues with these guys. I just don't. I feel like you get these offers and you have to, sometimes you have to take them.

That's life-changing money. Yeah. Like with no, like no risk. No risk. And for us, for golf, we can, we can, every, somebody this year, a bunch of people will lose money playing the PJ tour. Because, you know, I figure for, you know, with you pay your caddy, you got your coach, you got your agent, you got everybody down the line, you're paying for all your own expenses, all your own expenses. All your own expenses. So for me, you know, it's, it's 10 plus grand an event.

So you go out, I mean, depending, like, you go to the majors and you rent the house, it's 10, 20 grand to rent a house. So you go miss the cut, like you lose that money. So for a guy that goes out and struggles on the tour, can be in the negative. Oh, yeah. So, you know, when you go to the live and you're, I've given you this upfront money, it's tough to turn down. Tough to turn down.

Now, like, when you, so do you have someone that does all that for you on your team? Yep. You rather have a house? Yeah. What's your pre-tournament? Like, we're here. You're doing the Genesis in Los Angeles.

This, do we, we rent a house. We got a chef. So if I have my family, I do a house. House. Because I got two little kids and they're maniacs. So like the hotel room. Little coop. Yeah.

And Logan. And Logan. And my wife and I went to Super Bowl is his first Super Bowl in person. But I'll, this week I'm by myself. So we stay in Santa Monica because the traffic is so bad. Yeah. But, you know, if I'm by myself, I'll do. But I really, this point in my career, like being locked in that hotel room is tough.

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what do you yeah so I do the walk I'll go do the walk you know for us but we play if you're in the final group you're peatina off like 3 o'clock so you're got most of the day I'll do a walk Netflix games with names

we listen to let's go podcasts you know I but you know there's a lot of downtime and so the difference is too when we're on the road like you're with your team there's no like a lot of times it's just me Yeah.

So being on the road, that's the thing that I hate most right now in my career is just being on the road away from my family. Yeah. At least when you're with, like when we're at the President's Cup, when you're with the team, you're all, you're in the team room, you're hanging out. It's not that bad. But, you know, for the rest of this week, I'll go to the course back to my room and just wait until the tea time.

That's got to get harder with kids. It's tough. You know what I mean? Because you guys are, you guys are going, you know, you guys are going, how long is the season? Six months? I mean, it used to be year round. Yeah, now it's like eight months. Yeah, now it's about eight months.

And like you're, I noticed, and this goes for everybody in business and everybody that works. But you miss, you miss, I know I'm going to miss a lot of stuff at home. Yeah. And you, for football, for, but even, you know, anybody that works, you know that's going to happen. But at this point in my career, that's the toughest. Well, take us through the work week. Tournaments, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. When do you get to L.A. here?

Genesis. So I played Powell Beach last. week. I got here Sunday night. Sunday night. We, we, it rained all day here Monday, which is like really nice because you can take the day off guilt-free. Yeah. If I can have a rainy, stormy day where I can take the day off where I'm not like, no simulator work? I should be out there. No simulator. Are the movies? No movies? No movies. But, and then Tuesday, we'll get to the course. My coach is here this week, Darren May, and we'll get, we'll get to work back to the fundamentals,

um, play nine holes. And really like, you'll look at, you'll look at, you. You'll look at, you kind of of the course of the course and so you'll you'll you'll you'll think about sort of what you needed to work on what was good what was bad the week before and then so folks so last last week i didn't i didn't hit my irons very well so we really have focused on a little bit different move on a takeaway that we were hammering down at the golf course playing nine holes on tuesday chip and put um putting coaches here as well so you do that and then different coach different coach so you got swing coach and putt coach. I have so many effing coaches.

Yeah, I got a coach up. I got mentally his problems. But then the next day we is the pro am, which this is a, if I could explain to you how these proams are. Yeah, explain it. So you guys, you guys don't like these. Well, who's going to be listening to this? So imagine the day before you played, you had to go play a pickup game with, with just people that have never played football. Oh, I know.

I mean, yeah. But we love it. It's great. No, it's great for the experience. It's great for the tour. And they're incredible for, you know, our, we couldn't have the tour without it. Yeah. So you go out, but it's another chance to look at the golf course.

So today we played. Today was pro-am day. Partner? There's four amateurs. Four amateurs. And then me. So it's just four randoms? Yeah.

See, I don't know. I don't know all these rules. Yeah. And sometimes they've never played. Oh, shit. So maybe I should start getting them in these. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you can get out there.

I have to get on these. You would dust those fools, bro? What are you going to have some dude not play coming here? Let's just pair you a key. But sometimes you get to play with, like today I played with the, well, I played with a very prominent CEO. Which is really good. I get it. Network.

Yeah, it's cool. Like, you get to meet a lot of really cool people and you get another look at the course. How about pro golfers for networking on the golf course? Oh, it's a joke. It's like shooting fucking fish in a barrel. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 4-1K wait up real quick.

Oh, sorry. What were you saying? This guy's over here fucking jaw dropped. Selling whatever you want. You just get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, when you're doing practice round, you're sitting there and are you taking notes with your coach,

like, or your caddy or like, you know, on that green over there. I saw it was. Yeah. How does that all work? So, like, again, it's 16th year of playing. So you're dialed on your. I've played this tournament 16 times, which is four rounds and then all practice rounds. So I've played the course, you know, 50 to 75 times.

So, you know, for me, for a rookie, they're going out here seeing this course for the first times. There's a lot more to do. But for me, there was a couple new T's out there, which means the line's going to be a little different. New trees, too. You see those trees. Yeah. They put on that one.

You boys can't fucking swing that thing. I saw that tree. Yeah. And then, like, so we got a ton of rain. And there was a few greens that were spinning so much. So we know the eighth hole is an example that it's faced a little towards you and wet. So you have to know where to land it or spin off the green. So we'll take some notes there.

And then we have these fake holes that we'll put out for, you know, where they think the pins are going to be through one through four the days and hit some puss to it, hit some chips. But really just getting comfortable with the speed green, the speed greens and the, you know, how firm there. What are our firmness over here? Really soft. Soft. Is it rained? But this is what's interesting about Riviera this week.

They're really soft, but really fast. Yeah. So that's a weird combo. Are you 13? Yeah, at least. At least. It's the fastest I've ever seen Riviera's Greens. Well, they came for you, boys.

They did. You guys didn't come here last year. I'm what you did. They did. It's a... I have eagled that first hole. Come on. I have.

I chipped it in from... I could drive the ball. I just... I remember in Tom versus time when you broke his driver. Oh, yeah. He was pissed, by the way. So, so mad. Yeah.

It's Tom Brady, bro. You're going to get like 30 other drivers, whatever you want. They're going to come and fucking measure your dong and have it all perfect for you. Get out of here, Tom. But, yeah. When do you know you're feeling good by the time you're in practice round, pregame? When is... So golf is weird in that.

don't really like some some weeks that I'm I finished the prep done Wednesday and I'm like I've this I've this the best I've ever felt and you go out and you play like shit and then sometimes you go out and just doesn't feel right and you know what an example that I had was I played the U.S. Open out here at L.A. Country Club it's one of the worst tournaments I've played as a pro I missed the cut by five six shots horrible. I hate that course too don't know that shit like played so bad like to the point where it's like jarring a little. That's how bad I played. And then I go to Hartford the next week and brought Darren in and something clicked and I won.

So like there isn't, it doesn't necessarily mean how you feel is how you're going to go out there and play. You know, for us today, really just working on the fundamentals, really working on a few things that we're trying to get better. And if the ball is not doing exactly what we want today, that's fine. I needed to do what I want tomorrow. And so, you know, getting back down to the basics and getting ready to play as most important. Now, what's the food situation like?

So we have player dining in there where they treat us great. Like we can go in there. Oh, so you guys are getting player dining at golf course? So you're getting... What has the best food? What golf course has the best food? Best food at Memorial, which is Jack Nicholas's tournament. The best by far.

Augusta? We can eat dinner there. Augusta's good. I mean, that fried chicken there. I'll take, I'll take, I'll take, I'll take, I'll take, I'll take Memorial. Wasn't there the old dude that sits in the back? He's been making it for like 80 years. That's what they said.

I went and got to play there once, and almost you got to get the fried chicken. They got, what's really good there is the bacon. They're known for their bacon. Thick, too. Thick bacon. And it's, it's like really good. So what's that, Memorial that makes it so good? So Memorial is Jack Nicholas's tournament.

It's his course. He built it. And they just treat us so good there. Jack's a player. He wants to treat us I think it's our best event outside the players and the majors I think it's the best

and they just treat us so good we can go in there and eat dinner we can get the order of steak comes out it's just it's really great Oh man don't they have those milkshakes They got the milk shakes So the milkshakes are what the really good thing about Memorial You have to go buy it as you walk out

So everyone you're like I'm not getting one today What makes the milkshakes so good? He has his own ice cream I think Whoa. He makes his own ice cream. Like, they, they do everything there to the max. You expect anything less from the guy? No.

No. He fucking guy. What a, he makes his own ice cream out there. That's so unbelievable. He said, you're going to make a drink, Arnie? I'll make ice cream. Okay. I'll make ice cream.

This fucking guy. Can be an Arnold Palmer though. Are we private jetting to all? No, I do a little. Like, so what we'll do is we'll all share. So we'll, you know, we're all, like, from Pebble to here, I split with two other guys. Okay. So you're like, we'll all get together.

Who we're splitting with? I split with Sam Burns and Russell Henley. Okay. A couple of Americans on, both were on this team. Are we always flying American? We'll throw a couple. We'll throw a couple of Americans, but yeah, we like to fly with the Americans. Now, talk to me about this team, man.

Like, you fiend for the team. I do. I've watched all your interviews. I see how you talk about. playing in the President's Cup, the Riders Cup, any kind of team-oriented golf event. Why do you love playing with the team so much?

It's because I crave that. I grew up loving the Patriots. I grew up loving the Celtics. I grew up, you know, wanting to run out of the tunnel as a team. I'm always doing everything on my own. I'm always like,

there's no one to pass the ball to in our sport. Yeah. So, you know, you're having a bad day. Like, it's going to be bad. There's no passing the ball. There's no,

you know, whatever. And, you know, for me, what was really cool was it had been 10 years and I was sitting in the locker room and we had a proper locker room where like we're sitting around and it looked like, you know, like I would imagine the Patriots to be. And I'm looking at all the players and not one player was on the team that I was on 10 years ago. It was a totally new generation. Totally different vibe. Like my last team I played on Tiger was on it. Phil was on it. Steve Stricker, Jim Furrick, like big boys that you like really looked up to your whole life. And I'm looking, and it's Scotty Schaeffler, Sam Burns. It's, you know, guys that I had never done this with. And it was just really, I just loved, like, sitting in that locker room and it's quiet. The music going, everyone's nervous. But you're, like, nervous together.

You know, like, you know, normally I'm sitting in the locker room, I'm nervous and by myself. But you're in this together and you can feel it. Like, you're in there and, like, you know, the practice around days, everyone's choking around. And the tournament day, music's going, but it's, like, quiet. And I just love it. I love that. And I love going over the guy, give him a little slap.

Like, come on, let's go get it today. You slapping on the ass? Oh, yeah. You know, you gotta go to ass slap. It's team shit. It's team shit right there. And what's fun in these... See, in the individual sport,

you go slap someone on the ass and think you're weird. I might have to throw it down if you're in the team. Yeah. And what's fun about these events is you're actually out there with a partner. So I would have a partner and like, when I'm slapping on the ass, like I want it to hurt. Like, I'm going to give it to them. Like, I'm looking to hurt some people out there when we're celebrating.

But, like, even just, like, being out in the range and you got all the same clothes on and you're, like, you're really truly part of a team. And you're really, like, I want these guys to all do well at Riviera this week, but I want to beat them all. But there, you're like, you're looking at, you know, Scotty Sheffler, who's impossible to beat. And, you know, he's on my team today. I want him to make that put. Like, for real, for real. and, you know, I just, I love that. I loved, you know, hearing the stories of the guys

and hearing, like, you know, what it was like for them to make the team and being Jim Furek being our captain, one of my heroes as a kid. And what a great job he did. And it's just a special time. Yeah. I mean, is that why you joined this, the TGL?

Yeah. Be on another team? Again. But then you get to a couple of euros. Yeah, we do. I'm the only American. but my dream as a kid was to play on a Boston team. I wanted to play in the Patriots or the Red Soxs, the Bruins.

And like obviously at a young age, I realized that wasn't going to happen. And then at 37 years old at the time, I realized the dream of playing for a Boston team. And again, like, what a fun thing. It was so cool to be, you know, in this crowd. And the owner of our team is a Fenway Sports Group. So we have a lot of, like, deep connections to the area. And it's really special. So you're getting some good socks tickets.

Oh, yeah. I mean, Dean Radley get tickets everywhere He's a major and shit, dude. How's Rory as a teammate? Great. It's great when he's a teammate

and when he's on the other side, it's tough. I can't tell you how good this guy is. Yeah. Like, he's so talented. Like, everything he does is just I'm watching it

and I can't believe it. Like, when you watch Scotty play, he's so talented, but he's like, he's hitting cool shots. He's doing, like Rory, it's just like, he's hits a driver and you're like, holy cow. He's smaller guy.

He's small and he's the longest, I think he's the longest player, one of the longest players on the tour. And it's really fun to be out there and have a team and play for Boston. Like, playing for Boston means something to me. Like, you know, TGL is great. You know, this stuff is really important, President's Cups. But for me, playing for Boston, like, that means something. Yeah.

Like, when I go out there and wear this and when I'm out there in TGL, you know, it's obviously a different. than what we do, but like, I, I want to represent the city. I want to represent the region, just like you did. And it's really fun for me. Yeah. Man, that's, so you guys, you guys, is it, it's real deal stuff that. Yeah.

I mean, it's, it appears in the, well, I can only speak for myself. I'm a nervous guy. Yeah. I get nervous about everything. I am so nervous in there. Because it be, you know, it's like you playing football, but then you're going to play football, but in a totally different. I haven't grown up doing this.

No. This is all different. Like everything about it is different. The way you put the ball down, the way you look at the screen, the way you're, the grass is. Like, it's just, it's a totally different sport. Is it so they put different grass in? Yeah, so you hit off of actual turf. They wheel it in.

It's insane. And they put it down and it's actual grass. And then up by the green is AstroTurf. So like, you never have hit shots off this stuff. No. So it's like Kakuua. It's like Kikuyu, isn't it? This Kikuyu is serious out here.

It's like sticky. Yeah, it is like Kikuyu. Nice. Good one. Rest on. If you win a championship, duckboat parade. So I just made a deal with the Fenway guys. Like a couple of, I said, if we win this, I get to go on the next duck boat.

So, and they granted me that wish. Hopefully they, when they hear this, they lock it down again. So, uh, you grew up in New England. Where did you used to golf at? So my dad was a, was a golf pro, like a head, like teaching pro head pro. And so I grew up all over Vermont. I grew up in Woodstock, Vermont. originally and I would I would take this the bus to after school and I would I would back then this

is before Tiger golf was like not cool at all. So I used to have to take my clubs on the bus and I'd be walking off the bus to get off to and everyone be making fun of me. It was it was horrible like horrible and then to the point where I made my mom drop my clubs off beforehand so that I'd still get ridiculed off the bus but I could go faster without the clubs. But I would chip balls out of the woods of the range and pick the range and they let me play there for free. Woodstock Country Club. They were great. And then in high school, I went to high school in Hopkins, high school, played the Hopkine Country Club, worked at the golf course.

The champions? What's that? You want to stay championship? We did. We won a state championship there. I played with a team with John Kern, who played on the tour as well. Really, really fun time in my life. Was that still when golf was a fall sport or was it a spring sport?

It was, I think it was a spring sport. No, it was a fall sport. It was a fall. It switched to fall. So what courses do you play there now? So I have a place in the north shore of Massachusetts and I play at golf club in New England. It's actually New Hampshire.

Great. It's a great course. But, you know, I really miss being a part of New England. A couple years ago, my wife and I, we bought a place up there. and we spend some time in the summer up there. We used to go, I used to do international. Oh yeah. Because it was like the Long Dong one.

Yeah, yeah, it was. And then Belmont a lot. Nice. TPC Boston. I played there once, never went back. I think I may have lost 42 balls. It's a tough place to go if you don't know. It was so fucking hard.

I stopped golfing after. We've actually played high school event. I played a high school event at TPC Boston. It's pretty hard, isn't it? Or am I just, well, terrible. Well, you're pretty terrible. Yeah, it's, you can be, you can hit it in the woods and lose balls for sure. Now, you go to St. John's, and that kind of kicks up your career,

and you got to play at Oakmont a bunch, huh? Beth Page. Or Beth Page. Yes. Yeah, we got to play all over Long Island. Again, St. John's is not a golf school. No. No. Like we, you're like super not in the golf world of all your story, but you're there, which makes it tighter. Yeah. And I was, you know, again, there, I was like really angry. That was when I was at my angriest of how I'm going to make. Because everyone's stuff, I remember when I was at St. John's, like, towards the end of my time there, you used to have to go into the counselor and you'd have to plan for after, after school ended.

And you weren't allowed to say professional sport. And it like, like, I would go in there and I would just tell I'm not doing it. And she'd be like, if you don't do this, you can't get your creditation to graduate. I would be in there telling them, I don't know, car salesman, who knows what the hell I said. and I'd be curling my toes in my shoes, like, so it hurt. It just, it killed me to even, it killed me to even, like, say out loud that this wasn't what I was going to do because it's ridiculous to play on the tour from St. John's. Yeah.

Like, it was, we've been St. Johns and Queens. And, you know, in the winters, I used to hit in the, in the batting cages in the, in the gym. Like, we didn't have facilities. Like, these kids, now they have these facilities. It's insane. But it's all part of my story. Like, I, who knows if I got recruited to a big school? school like where I would be like this is I loved my time of St. John's.

My plan was to go to St. John's transfer out to a big school. I mean, you went to Kent State similar, right? Yeah. But you, Ken State was, they're a legit program. Eh. They were, I just wanted to play quarterback at a Division I level. We'll be right back after this quick break. I'm Dylan Playfair.

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And I, my teammates that I had, like, they're still my best friends. I couldn't imagine leaving them. It would have been so weird. But I don't know. Stanford comes knocking and say, hey, man, we got like. I couldn't have gone to school at Stanford. But they come knocking. They see you after rookie year, freshman year. paying golfers now. I don't know about Stanford, but like, that's what I mean. Yeah, they're fully are.

NIL is outrageous. This is crazy. Now, how are you the only guy that's Team Jordan? Well, I... A couple, but is there a couple? Yeah, the, um, I play golf with them a ton in, in Florida. Okay. And, uh, that's how you do it.

We, we, uh, I had to deal with a company and I did this photo shoot that was like I had, it was like, I was with like a fancy clothing company and I did this photo shoot, but I was not in golf clothes and I wasn't, I was wearing like dress shoes and they cut me. And I was like so pissed. And I went to Michael and I said, would you ever be interested in doing golf shoes? He's like, yeah. Like, oh shit, this is, this is amazing. And I flew out to, I flew out to Nike and I spent like two days there. It's, it's so insane to watch them develop a shoe. It's like they're building like a Ferrari and like little things. Like I wanted my shoelaces a little longer.

I wanted the tongue of my shoe to go down a little more. So when it rained, it didn't seep into my foot. I wanted the left side to be higher up so that I had a little more stability in my left in my side. Front leg, right? And then yeah. And then like my right foot's a half size bigger than my left. So that every shoe that I get, like I wear them straight out of the box in a tournament. And, you know, truthfully.

being a part of Jordan has been like one of my favorite things in my career. So fun to be a part of that brand and to be, you know, to wear his logo is like, it's a big deal. It's a big deal in any sport, but especially, you know, being, you know, the first to wear it in golf is special. How's he on the course? Really good. He's like a proper player. He's, he's, he's good at everything in he. He's good at everything.

And let me tell you about Michael. He is the greatest guy I've ever met. Yeah. Like the greatest friend. He's always there for, like, you can maybe relate to this. I always sort of base people who I meet, how they treat my friends. They're going to treat me, I don't know, I'm a golfer. I mean, MJ's, the most famous person in the world, but he treats my friends the same

as he treats me. Yeah. And that's who he is. He's just a really generous guy. He's been there for me my whole career. But, you know, it's a really, really strange thing when you grow up and meet your idols. But then to become friends with them is like bizarre. Yeah.

I get to play with mine. Brady. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. You know what I mean? I remember being in the asphalt to, what, grade school saying, I'm Brady. I'm Brady.

Yeah. Yeah. You get to play. You're playing with Michael fucking Jordan wearing his goddamn shoe. That's sick. I almost signed with Jordan. almost signed to Jordan. They didn't want me to,

they wanted me to cut my GE 11. Oh, they wanted the logo. Yeah, well, they, they wanted me to like not even, because I used to make my own stuff.

Yeah. And, uh, he used to get some good revenues on that, you know? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. He wanted me to cut that and I was like, I can't do it. Can't do it. That's too bad. Team Jordan would have been so sick. I used to wear Jordan socks. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you could wear the two time. It's special to wear Jordan, like as an athlete. Yeah.

I think like in any sport, I think it, I think it means something. Well, when Tom, Tom used to be a Nike guy. Yeah. When I first got there and all he wore was Jordans. Like, he'd always have like some like bedazzled like custom rare one, one off Jordan that he wore every day. And then he went to Under Armour. Yeah. And it was like, what the, it was like so weird for me to see Tom in an Under Armour.

Yeah. Because all I saw was dope Jordans on him. So I played basketball. one time with Brady and Jordan. Oh, you. And I had to guard Brady. Brady was still playing. It's all, it's, people put it on YouTube and stuff.

It was everywhere. I think I saw this. And Brady was going so hard. And I'm, and I'm thinking for myself, like, I don't want to get hurt. I'm still playing. And I'm thinking, if I hurt you, I can never go home again. My family will disown me. I'm like, dude, you need to chill out.

And I was just like, Brady was going so hard. and he was such a good basketball player. Oh, yeah. Like, I think, like, you see his combine, and it's, you have the, he's like a freak athlete. Well, he got drafted as a catcher in baseball. Oh, yeah, this is it.

I think about how, think about how bizarre this is for me. Like, as a, like, there's MJ. A New England kid. Like, two, my two number one heroes in my life. I mean, that's crazy. Who won? The Brady and Jordan, like,

they have to be partners in everything. Did they? Golf. Like, I find this. So I figured this out in like the goat world. Kind of like too hot chicks. They all have to stick together. They're in this like weird club together.

But. Because they don't want the, they don't want the crazy compete card. Maybe they don't want it. Yeah. They'll overcompete against each other and it might ruin their friendship. Yeah. Seriously.

Exactly what it is. I never even thought of that. Dude, because you know if Brady and Jordan play against each other, if they beat each other in anything. It'll never live the day down. They'll never, they'll bring it up every second.

Yeah. What's the craziest thing you guys? made a bet on you and Jordan. I know you guys have... I mean... Did you get a car off of them or something? No, you got to get something off him. No, he...

Did you get the contract off of... You beat his ass and golf? No, I did. You know, to be honest with you, like you said, with these guys, it's not about the bet. Yeah. It's about like... The time.

He wants to beat... It's the time. So he'll play me for whatever, and then he'll play my buddies for 10 bucks. There's no difference. He's going to want to beat them for, you know, the competitiveness.

Like, it's not about, you know, he wants to beat your ass in everything. And like, it's the same as Brady. And shout out MJ with NASCAR getting the Daytona 500. Let's go. That's another ring to it.

What a fucking, what a beast. Let's go. Anything he does, he's going to win. Well, that's not true because he did have the Hornets for a while, didn't he? Yeah. He didn't. They didn't win.

We didn't do everything. We don't remember that. We don't remember that. He won the sale. I know that. He did. Big time. Wait, Gigan, how sick is that course he's got down there?

Oh, it's incredible. Oh, my God, it looks unreal. Wait, so that's a private course that he has? Yeah, yeah. Remember only? Oh, yeah. Well, I'll bring you out. Come on, dude, let me know.

Let me get in there. Yeah, it's, let me slide in. It's the greatest place on earth. It looks unbelievable. For a golfer, too, it's like Memorial or Jordan. Oh, it's better in a morgue. Yeah, like the treatment? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I'm going to get you so much. This is going to get me a dollar out there. Come on. I'm joking. I'm joking anymore. For a golf, for,

he, he has a side of the practice facility that's basically just for pros. And it's like the greatest, Darren May, who's here, my coach actually designed it. And it's strictly for us to get better.

There's no other place in the world like this. And like they, it's been done so we can go back there and try to get better at what we do. And it's just, well, I'm really grateful for the place. Yeah,

I'm just starting them Google. That's what Google used to do with their employees. put all the cool shit out there so you just never leave work. I'd never want to leave. I just never want you guys to leave. He just wants great golfers around him at all times so he could just pick up and steal a little. Brady's out there. Yeah, Brady is probably out there.

He's out there. Let's go back into time, Jack. Do we run through what was going on around the game? Yeah. At the time of this match. Number one movie, The Wild Robot. Nice movie. Number one song, A Bar Song Shabuzi.

We know that one. Tipsy, shout out Jake. He saw it with the kids. Wild Robot. Nice movie. It is. Visually. It is.

It is. Crazy. We also got to talk about old Joey chestnut around this time. Set the world record eating 84 hot dogs on that Netflix one, not the July 4th one. This was the unlimited, the unfinished beef, I should say. Sorry about that. The Eagles, Super Bowl champs, Josh Allen, MVP, we'll blaze by that. But around this time in sports, the Celtics are fresh off Banner 18.

Jesus. We love that. Drake May's rookie season. He was sitting behind you a couple percent, but still, a lot going on right now. A lot going on. What's your favorite? Boston sports memory? So my favorite Boston sports memory.

I love those early Celtics teams that won with Garnett and Pierce. Garnett and Pierce. But like, 08. I was at Malcolm Butler Interception and I was at 283. So like those are kind of cliche to say, but like being at 28 to 3 and being there, like, I mean, you played in it. It's a little different, but like with my wife and like we were there and we went last

minute and we're sitting there and like spent all this money to go to the Super Bowl it's 283 I'm like oh my God what a mistake if we actually put we switched we did the rally caps we went rally caps we went rally cap which was big I think for you guys we did the rally cap 21 3 yeah I think 21

yeah somewhere in there 20 then we got to 28 did we change up the rally cap yeah no we I think it was sometime late in the third which would have made sense yeah but like for me that was just so incredible. Like, and I, I had the, at the Malcolm Butler interception, I was on, I had the perfect

line of the throw. It was right down my, my view and saw it happen like right in front of my eyes. I mean, what's the first thought? I mean, I, I still can't believe we got that Super Bowl sometimes when I see that. It didn't seem like real. Like, it seemed like, no. He must not have caught it or something. It's like he just broke and the ball was in his, it just magically appeared in him.

I mean, do you think that Pete Carroll, like, wakes up at night, think, like, rises out of that? 1,000 percent. I mean, I'm really close with Marshawn Lynch. Yeah. We've done a bunch of stuff. And he, he thinks that they could have, like, that just, like, imploded the team and that whole thing. Like, they could have had, they could have won that Super Bowl.

They went back to back. Yeah. They would have potentially gone back and gone the next year. In what's crazy is that play probably never, they would have done in Twitter. push push probably now never would have happened yeah I don't which which I well how do we feel about the tush push I don't care I mean I hate it got stale I got stopped I can't stand it but I those are my two my two favorites I'm just like Tom Brady was just like my hero any of those Brady moments were just like great because back or in the middle of the Brady years I used to get in these fights

with my friends about how Brady was better than Manning and like everyone would like fight me back. I would get like Matt. Same. And I always loved when he would just add another one of those. Actually, cool story with M.J. Brady. We were playing golf one time. Brady, like, let us through.

And MJ yelled to him. He said, when you got six, you can go, you can play through. He had three at the time. And then now he's got seven. Oh, I know. I mean, crazy. We were joking with my buddies. What year was that?

He had three? It would have been he had three. So that may have been. Welker was still on the team. Yeah. So I used to go train with them when he lived here in L.A. And he would put the date of the Super Bowl like in February. And, you know, I remember one of those years, it was probably around then where I go,

you know, I'm going to help you get Joe, man. Because we grew up, Niners fans, you know, and Joe Montana was God to us. I'm like, I'm going to help you. Oh, we're going to get you to Ford. You're going to be Montana, man. He goes, I'm not going for Ford. I'm going for Jordan. Probably because Jordan fucking went through and said that.

I bet you that son of a bitch. Yeah. You're just like him. You've been taking some of his motivational techniques. Yeah. Yeah. I want to. I want to.

The gifts, man. They're important. What's your Boston Forsome? Boston Sports Legend Forsome. Okay. Dream Force. Dream for some.

Brady. Brady. Belichick. Ooh. You're getting, get your car. George. Robert Kraft. Oh my God.

And we're going to sit down and we're going to sort this all out. Maybe a little larit. We got to get one more. Like, well, I'm, me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You're going to sort it all out. Okay.

But this is what I always, because I get asked that question all the time. That's what I, that's the answer that I give. But my, my off, like not my favorite patriot. It's not including you or Brady or anything. Brable. Oh, I love raves. Brewski. Rodney Harrison.

I mean, Oh, yeah. You can never go wrong. I just, I can't go wrong with the animal. Why isn't he in the Hall of Fame? Rodney Harrison. I don't know.

Why isn't Bill in the Hall of Fame? Why isn't Mr. Kraft in the Hall of Fame? Why even have a Hall of Fame if Belichick's not in? What? How many Super Bowls we have? Six in the last 20 years. Only like one or two guys in the fucking hole?

I don't know. It's weird. You're going to get in? Probably not. I mean, that's ridiculous. Aren't you? You all-time leading, give me some stats here for post-season.

Post-season, I... How many? Third in catches and third in yards now. I retired at second. I mean, in my eyes, you're in easy. Yeah, but it's regular season. I don't have the numbers. You don't think for real?

I know that's what you have to say. No, but it's to like, there are metrics and stuff. Regular season. season should count for double or triple. I mean, you would think. Because, like, you have great regular season. You're not in the playoffs. Like, what does that matter?

It's kind of like, you know, majors, regular. Yeah. You're going to perform your best in the majors. Can't tell the story without it. Just getting into the Patriots Hall of Fame. Does that mean it? That meant a lot. I mean, just the guys you even just said.

Yeah. Rodney Harrison, Rabel, Bruske. You know, if you would ask me my rookie year, would I be a Patriot Hall of Famer? So cool. You know, I would have never have thought that just because I was like learning in a whole new language. I was learning Chinese basically just transferring positions and playing pro ball and very similar to your story. You know, like this.

I find a lot of similarities in our long roads. Yeah. Gotta go long roads. May take me a little time, but I always find the way. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Let's jump into this match.

I'm just thinking about that intimidating force. I'm imagine the course Marshall pulling up telling you guys to hurry it up. God. Base of play. right, buddy. That's the ice. That's what I'm a I want to hear.

I want to hear I want to hear what you have to say after the match. Yeah. I'll get all those three. You get them right? Yeah, I'm going to, yeah. I'll get them right.

I mean, if someone has to. Yeah. Squashed, I'm a horse kid. I'm a course, baby. Let's go, let's profile this international side real quick. These are dudes from everywhere but Europe.

It's in the Rider Cup. We're talking President's Cup. We're talking Canada, South Africa, South Korea, Japan, Australia. Some vets on this team. He got Jason Day, four cups under his belt at this point. Hadeki 5. And then I had to do a triple take on this one.

Adam Scott, our fellow Boston common guy, 10. Yeah. President's cups up until this point. Oh, my God. More than the whole U.S. team combined. I mean, this was a great squad. You got some Canadian guys is in Canada. You got some hometown guys.

You got Corey Connors, McKenzie Hughes, Taylor Pindrith. Yeah, this was a stack squad, Hadeki, Sanjay, Tom Kim, Jason Day, Jung, Hung, Aang, Adam Scott. good side. Yeah. So when you get into these team events, everybody's the best in the world. Oh yeah.

So like you're not, there's no, there's no weaknesses in any of the teams, you know, especially in the U.S. side. But the, you know, it doesn't matter who you match up against, who you play against.

You know, in order to make these teams, you have to play at an extremely high level for two years to make the team. So, you know, this is a really good team. And like you said, a lot of Canadians team off

and we're played in Montef also like the crowd was was properly fired up for them how much beef is there for real there's beef there is this this is this is like i mean you're wearing your country on your sleeve here so you know there's a lot of there's a lot like you're not going to take any shit and like for golf do they like to give us american shit they don't know about it's just like they gets a little chippy like not like you get chippy with you guys or you're like hitting each other, but like little stuff or passive aggressive. Yeah. I mean like we both every player in each side. Like walking in each other's lines and shit. I don't even know like these guys are all such good guys. Rider Cup gets a little

rider cup. Rider Cup. Rider Cup gets a little more dicey. Rider Cup gets like this is like like it means everything. So rider cup gets a little dicey. These guys are everyone on the international team are such great guys. But like, what you have is, is you have match play. So it's, it's monoe mono and you're, you know, you're celebrate. It's like I like to say every hole is like the last whole of the tournament. So you can like, in golf, we're always trying to hold our emotions down. And we're trying to just like underreact to everything is the key. Yeah. And, but in these, you can just explode. And that's where I feel like you find the best players in these team events are emotional players because they're always trying to hold this down.

But in this setting, you can go crazy and celebrate. Sometimes you can sell that over-celebration can piss off the other guy, understandably on both sides. Yeah. Like I'm sure I've pissed a lot of guys off in these. But that's what makes it so great. It's kind of got that little like that baseball stuff, like those un, there are rules that you're.

Yeah, unwritten rules. Unwritten rules. Yep. Decky. East. And what's a deck you like? he he he he's a great guy he you know see the Asian dudes are probably all like super respectful he's a guy like you're looking to not see in this because he's so good he's a fucking he's an animal he's a surgeon like you're you're when you when you look up and you get your match up well you got

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He's not going to say a word to you. That's almost intimidating. Yeah, like, I'm not, I won't, like, when I go out in these matches, I'm not saying single word. I'll say good shot or whatever, but like, we're, we are not friends this day. We are not colleagues. You're on the other side. And I truly want to, like, kick your ass as bad as I can.

Yeah, you see Tom Kim. you got matched up with them. What's our present or what's our gift? What's our little gift of motivation for him? Well, I actually played Tom Kim in the second match and he kicked my ass. So maybe the next one. But he's like their spark plug and their team.

He's getting fired up. Yeah, he gets fired up, which I have no problem. This is their moment too. They've been dreaming of this. They're playing for their country. They do this once. We do it once every two years. We do it every year.

So this is their chance to show, to show what type of player they are. Tom definitely gets excited, and I don't play them for it. Now, is there when these guys play the Euros? What's that called? No, they don't.

So we, we play every year, which I think is actually a disadvantage a little for us. Yeah, you guys are fucking. Yeah, it's like we're, you know,

these guys gear up every year. It means everything to them. That means everything to us too. But like, we know, I know if I don't make the Rome team, I got a chance to make this team. If you don't make this team, if you're a Euro or you're an international, you've got two more years. Like, and you got to play well for two years to make the team. Yeah. Jackie, let's see what this team. Bring out to Mr. Mike Weir was leading those guys. Let's move over to the U.S. squad led by Captain Jim Furich, one of the best swings of all time.

Before we talk about the guys that are on this team, let's set in a stage here with some notable names that are not on this team. This was the first Ryder and Cup or presidents come since 93 that did. feature Phil, Tiger, J.T, or Jordan Speeth. Yeah, that was, that's probably a culture shock for you because you were on those last teams. Yep. I never, I didn't play. I've never played on a team with JT.

but all the teams I had Tiger and Phil were on them. And so like the hierarchy is set. Like, you know, when you walk in, Tom Brady's, like, you know, the guy we knew Tiger or Phil. Jim, same thing. Jim, Jim or Furik, like, this is a guy I grew up, like, idolizing. And now he's my captain. and, you know, so totally different vibe in these teams.

Everybody's like everybody's best friends on this team. Like genuinely, their families hang out together, their kids are friends. No, there's no like, you know, Tiger and Phil are battling each other for decades. Like they're, you're not going to be friends with the cornerback that's guarding you every, every, you know. So like they got along, everyone got along in these events, but like this team was top to bottom. everybody is like close and you know for me it was really cool to get to know these younger guys better and you know sort of you know I all have to open myself up to you know what it meant to me to be in the room with these guys in a room that I never thought I'd get back to now explain that

yeah I hear you always talk about making this making what do you say you say I try to keep like treat this as it's my last time ever being in this since you've gotten back Yeah, so I actually said this to the boys on Saturday night, which is before the singles, is, you know, I, and the previous team event I played was the Ryder Cup of Glen Eagles and we lost, and I was the deciding point. I was the point where they run out and I got, I got Jamie Donaldson beat me so bad and I was the final point that made them win the Rider Cup, never knowing that was going to be the last shot I'd hit for a decade in the event. And so I tried to explain to the boys, you know, earlier in the week than later in the week, you need to treat this like it's your last one.

You need to spend the extra five minutes in the team room. You need to cherish every second of this. Because I can promise you at Glen Eagles when I walked off that green, I thought I was on the next team. And I said for one of you, some of you, a bunch of you, this will be the last one you'll ever play. So take the time to enjoy this. Take the time to cherish this because someday this is over. This ends for everybody. This ends for Tiger.

This ends for Jack Nicholas. This ends for Tom Brady playing football. Like, this is going to be done. And take it from me from a person that thought this was going to be my life every year. Enjoy every second of this because it's going to be over and you don't know when it's over. You assume, oh, yeah, these guys are all playing the next ones. And, you know, this just meant the world to me. And the crazy part about this whole thing was,

I'm the next Rider Cup captain. So I'm in there. I'm Jim at the next one. So when he's up there talking and doing what he's doing, I'm thinking like, oh shit, this is going to be me in a year. You already knew at this point. I knew at this point. So no one has ever in the history of the game been in this position that I'm in.

And so I don't have anyone to talk to about it. I don't know what I mean? So I'm having to navigate being a player. in this team, but also carry myself like the captain of the next one. What did you take from Jim Furik as a captain? So Jim Captain, just like he played golf. He's fundamentals. He's going to give you the exact amount of information.

He's not a rah-rah guy. He didn't, the thing that I took away from him was he didn't try to be someone he wasn't. He was Jim Furik the whole week. steady, never up, never down, just was like the perfect coach of who you would want to, you know, give you the info you needed. He had a few moments where he got emotional and talked to us about how much meant to him, which was really special to us. Like, he was just steady the whole week. And we, this week was like, we, you know, I'm sure we'll get into it, but it was up and down for the majority of the beginning. Yeah. Let's get into it, Jeff. Let's get into it.

starting out getting in it on Thursday. We got four ball on Thursday. Five nothing clean sweep. Clean sweep. Keegan and Windham out there, go out and beat Taylor Pendrith and Bazaden Owe. To go up five nothing. Then we get into Friday.

Who did we beat? Bazaed no. Nice. Go on. There we go, baby. Yeah. Oh my goodness. I always miss Browns that one.

Yeah. South African names. They trip me up. So we sweep them Thursday. Sweep them in the four ball. Get them out. Moving on to Friday. Foresoms.

Kegan didn't play this game. so it might have gone different if you had it. The reverse. I've nothing. So we're tied up 5-5 going into the weekend. Yeah. I mean, roller coaster. Like, geez.

It was great. Like, I try in these team events not to look at the board. Because, like, the board means nothing to this match that you're in. The guy across from you means everything. Yeah. Like, the fact that we're up four to nothing, if the other matches are up, it doesn't, it shouldn't affect how I'm,

playing. Or if we're way down, I don't want the energy. So when I'm at these team events, I try to just, my 100% focuses on beating this other team that we're playing in my match. So I hadn't looked at the board and I made, I actually made like a long pot on the last hole to win the match. I went bananas. It was like 64? Yeah. I mean, I went, we went crazy. And then I went over to Jim and I said, how did we, how did we do? How did we do? And he goes, and he pointed over with the board and we were up five to nothing. I couldn't going five to nothing. I mean, that's 283 type stuff.

And then, you know, we get up the next day and... They come right back. I didn't play this day, but I went out and I warmed up just to stay loose. And I texted the team on the group chat. I was like, the energy's up out here today. Like, this is going to be... The crowd was, like, really worked up. And they went out, the internationals went out and played incredible and kicked our ass that day.

Sanjay and Hideki started out, go seven and six. Like, that's like a blowout. So, Sung Jay and Hideki was... We played alternate shot that's this day, which means, you know, you tee off, I hit the second shot. It's the hardest format because you're like, without getting too technical,

you play a different ball than me, and the ball is everything. So you're figuring it's the toughest format. And Hadeki and Sung-Jay were 8-under-through-11 in alternate shot, which is I've never heard of. So some of the matches, some of the matches were just like, we weren't going to win.

They just played better than us. And how much, like, you see a guy like Scotty coming out there, who hadn't had, like, hadn't played up to the Scotty standard, if you will, in his last two team golf events, didn't get a win in the last president's cup he played. And like, how much are, even if you're playing really well, does past team golf factor in when you get out there? Well, you certainly want to have a nice record. Right. You know, and I know, knowing Scotty, he's like Brady and Jordan.

He's like ultra, ultra competitive. And he wants to go out and like really beat you bad, like bad. And I know that bugs him. So, you know, for him to go out and win that first match with him and Russell was big. And, you know, he wants to go out there and play his best golf and, you know, dominate people like he always does. And then that history with in team golf paired with like the criminal record was, was he seen as the weak link on this team? Who's that? Scotty.

No. He definitely was not. I'm kidding. Never that. We love Scotty. Yeah. You're out of fucking bye. I'm kidding.

Yeah, I'm kidding. What are these Canadian fans like over there? They were great. You know, they were, they were passionate, and they were cheering for their home country, but, you know, they were good. Playing on the road is, like, I love it. Yeah. I'm sure you did, too.

It's fun. I enjoyed being the villain. Yeah. So in these events, when you make a putt and like, nobody cheers. You shut them up. It's so great. I'm right around the green, yell. Yeah.

I know they get wild at that RBC up there, but how is this course in Montreal? It's great. It's great. It's like a new, course. It'd be like a course that you'd play in Boston or in Vermont. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's long grass. Awesome. All right. So moving into Saturday, as we said, it's a little bit of a 5-5 here, all tied up. Got the four ball in the morning. U.S. took a three-to-one lead, but see,

Wu and Tom brought some serious energy. I mentioned that earlier. Tom Kim, really getting those guys rallied. Big one, though, they got that win to avoid a sweep. So it's 8-6. Yeah. Then we head into the afternoon session, which is, we got afternoon foursomes again here and then it's another three to one win so we're up 11, 7 here um got scotty gets a win you got morcau and burns

and then you got kentley and shawfley so up 11 to 7 going into sunday singles which is huge so yeah what do you guys have like team meetings afterwards and you guys do you guys watch film together we don't watch film no we we normally like so we this Jim did this for us I thought it was like really cool. So we win the first session 5-0.

And then we get back to our team room when we lose the next one, zero to five. And we can hear the internationals in their, you know, their team room cheering. And, you know, it's like in our team room, it was, like, quiet. This was scary. Yeah. This was like, do anything but 0 and 5. And we're, like, going to have this monstrous lead. And we could hear him cheering. We could hear him play music. We could hear him like and Jim called us players only, um, into the side room. And he said, go ahead. And he just like turned the floor over to us. He didn't say anything. And you went around

the table and like Tony Fienow said something. And then I gave the, I told him how I said how, you know, it took, it's taking me 10 years to get back in this room and how much it means to me and how much you guys mean to me and you know how this is a this is a this is a this is a marathon not a sprint and he let the guys in the he let us communicate to each other players only he was in the room but he didn't say a word he said you guys talk this out you guys say what you need to say and it was great like you don't get to see as a as a there are competitors you don't get to see this side of guys you guys are usually having those thoughts in your head yeah next to these guys and like russell Henley told a story and it was like, I remember after that meeting, I was like, oh, we're going to, like, we're fine.

So what's the next event after that meeting? So we get in there, we're in there for a while and then we go back out to eat dinner in the team room with the wives are there and the caddies. And as soon as we walked out of that team room, the atmosphere was different. And we could still hear them cheering. So like, that was nice to hear that. So you go to sleep and then what's the next day of a, We go to sleep and then for on Saturday you play 36 old.

So the first tee time is like seven. So you're up at four. Three 30. And there's a lot of golf. It's a lot of golf. It's a lot of golf. It's really like you're getting five hours of sleep. Like it's,

it's a lot. But you know, there's nothing really said in the morning before the matches. But like being in the room with the guys and guys are warming up and you're inside and you're looking across and you're in the locker. We don't get that. Like to feel that together. is powerful. Any superstitions?

Like pre-match superstitions? Someone got to come out on a jockstrap or something. We had so we actually did have a game ball we give out every night. It was a football and we pass it around. I can't think of any, I mean I have a million weird ones, but I think

like for us when we're in this situation it's back to the routine. Like back to the, okay, this is a big moment, but we're still just going to do what we do every day. What's going on with these headsets? What's that? There's so much, I feel like every teammate. There's a lot of headset going on. Yeah. So, what's being said?

So like, you know, you, the vice captains are all communicating. And then you want to know what's going on. So they're communicating what's happening in the groups. And then for a lot of times, so the Saturday morning, you got to get the afternoon pairings in. So you're communicating with the vice captains and the captains about what we're thinking about for pairings, what this person did earlier, how they're playing. What happened in that match? These two just got into it.

And what happened? We got to get over there. Or Kagan, we need you over. You know, fast forward under the Ryder Cup, but Kagan, we need you over on the 14th hole. We need you to get involved with this match a little. Shit like that. Like you're communicating just what's happening on the course.

Who's making those calls? I mean, the captain is in charge, similar to a head coach. And then the vice captains are just relaying information. And what they're seeing and what they're seeing from the other team and what they're thinking about this player's player. looks a little tired or this player looks a little dejected he might need to sit in the afternoon or this player just hasn't gotten it together or this player's playing great we might have to change up the plan here to get him back out on the course do you ever have like maybe like a phone a friend

thing in there like hey bring out the strippers we need him on hole 14 i told i told that at the rider cup at beth page that one of our groups was getting their ass kicked and i texted mjago i need you on the 14th hole i need you in there i need you on the green and he said yeah i'm there all right well take us inside the the last singles match yeah so we're up 11 to 7 and four four points is about the number where you're in good shape but but we we lost the rider cup 10 6 ben diana so in the back of your mind you know five is the number it's like really hard we're good and uh so you know it's always really so we're so the captains go and we're watching on tv you don't know who you're going to play and so we're all in a room so they'll go jason day

and then then Jim will say Xander Schaffley and everyone's like cheering and shit like we're like yeah yeah yeah X-Man and then but you're you're sort of waiting like when am I going so so we're up 11 to 7 and Siwu the guy that I played

was playing the best on their side statistically and so Jim put my name down and so we're watching on TV and the captives on the other side took forever to match me up like forever. And I saw somebody kept pushing Siwu to play me.

And then they put Sewu up, which is a tough matchup because of how good he's played. And we played them on Saturday morning. He played so good. He kicked their ass. What do you remember him killing at this point?

He made everything. He putt everything. I remember he was over his putter. Like I would say to my cat, like he's going to make this. And he would 40 feet. Sewu is one of the best players on the tour.

Most talented players. there's, like, you see Hadeki and see what would be like maybe a next guy. You don't want to play. He's got balls of steel, like this guy's an animal. But then, you know, in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, this is a good spot. If I could be in the mix here to clinch this president's cup. In the back of my mind, like, I've never been in this position of where, like, you know,

if things go right, I'm right in that zone of, you know, you really want to, like, if you got a big lead, you front load, and then you want to even it out in the back. in case it gets dice in the end. And it crufts my mind that night before. I was like, I'm in a spot here that I could, I'm in the zone here where I might be able to clinch this. But like waking up Sunday morning, you still didn't know who you were going up against.

No, Saturday night, we knew. You do. Okay. We knew. Yeah. And so now you're going from having partners to you're back on your own. Back on your own. So you're back to doing your routine.

And this is when you get really nervous is the singles. This is what you're not sleeping. I mean, your whole team, you're living and dying with every one of these matches. And this was the most, I woke up that I felt like sick. Like I was so nervous. I could barely, I could barely eat. I couldn't do anything. Now what was this guy on the course that day going into this last match?

What could we feel like we could take advantage of? So for me, I'm always trying to hit as many fairways as I can. And, you know, I really wanted to put pressure on Sioux. The key is to never give holes away. So you want to make them earn a winning hole. So you never want to like do something stupid, hit it in the water. And then it's like, I pick that up. It's good.

Like I want to make him work every single hole. And we had an incredible match. We both birdied the first hole. I buried the second hole. And then he went on a run and got a couple of me. and I had never won a singles match in a team event. Are you thinking that pre-match? Yeah.

I'm like, this has been always- So we're chicken little a little bit. Yeah, this is always been- We're thinking the skies falling before. Came out, Birdie,

though. Came out, birdie, but we found a present. Came out, birdie, birdie. I was,

you know, I, I did this thing before the matches. I went outside and I did what I said earlier, and I just, like, looked out and listened and felt the moment. Because I figured,

there's a good chance. This is my last, my last match. Like, hopefully, not. Hopefully I'll play and tons more, but like, I'm going to take my own advice here and really cherish this. And I, and I was out there and I was just closed my eyes. I could hear in the, these team events, the first T is crazy. I could hear this thing going wild. And I just was like,

I'm going to really cherish this day and I really want to win this match for the team. What was the swing thought in this final round? So for me, again, like this is Bill Belichick cliches, I just wanted to go through my process and my routine. Like, I know in this match against Siwu and the President's Cup, if I go through my routine like I would at home, my process before the shot. What is it? So like you get you, the golf is all math problems. You get in the number.

You're figuring out where you want to lay. So I have 175. I want to land at 173, a little into the winds playing 178. Okay, now that's how far I'm going to eat iron. Eight of you, right? Is that eight, nine? No, I don't know. Probably, that's probably, yeah, it could be eight, seven, seven or eight.

Seven, eight. But I just want to, like, focus on my process and focus on myself. I felt like in previous singles matches, I've been too focused on my opponent. And, like, you know, watching everything he's doing, trying to match up and worrying about things we can't control. Worrying about things we can't control. I wanted to go out there. One of these.

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Pre here, I'm like, just trying not to throw up. That's all nervous I am. And like, I've been doing this for a long time. Oh, man. Like, literally, like, I hope I can tee this up on the first off. This makes me feel human. Dude, that shot on number two. Oh, my God.

The second shot on number two. Oh, from 88 out sticks it. Yeah, it was, oh, man. You know, but like when you're nervous and you produce, is there anything better? No. And you know how nervous you are and it's like, can't feel your arms, can't, and you just hit it.

It's coming right where you're looking. It's just special. Yeah. You know, it's almost, you get to your perspective of like, this could be your last one. I just remember by the end of my career, I would get so nervous before games. and it was because of the standard we built.

And there's an expectation of how you have to play because of how you've played throughout your career. And it's that what you were just saying, that nervous energy that you have, that potential buildup just in your gut. I would get this against like shitty teams. Right. That's why you're so good.

But you know what I mean? But that's what everyone feels this. The good ones, the good ones, the great ones use it. They use that nervousness as energy into execution and manifest what you're trying to get done.

Yeah, I think I haven't always performed when I feel like that, but when I do, it makes everything worth it. It makes everything. Do we fast forward? Should we give a little overview on this one?

So we talked earlier, Bertie Birdie King is up to nothing. But see, Wu, him and that broomstick, they're not going down without a fight. No. Wins three out of five. We're on the 10th. He's up one.

Keegan's six. A nice 15 footer ties this thing up. Wins three in a row. Nice little run. Fast forward to 18. Kagan's up one. Up one on the 18th. We're up one.

What are you feeling right now? You're up one. 18. So back to that 10th hole. He was up two and he stuffed one in there to like six feet and I hit it to like 15 feet, two down. And I said to myself, if you don't make this fucking putt, you're going to lose this match.

How far? I had 15 feet and he had six. And in golf, a lot of times it's first one in. But even if I, even if I make and he makes, at least I'm still two down, I go three down. If I, and I remember telling myself, like, you, you make that 15 footer also. You're putting like, I'm here to fucking play, buddy. I remember saying those exact words to myself, like, if you don't make this fucking put, you're going to lose this match.

And like, we had some weird stuff going on for a, little like where it was getting close. And I went over and I buried that thing. Bang. And like one of those moments in my career that I'll remember forever. And then he ended up missing. And so now I'm one down and then I win the next, you know, handful. And then I started to get like really nervous.

Like this is when I started. And I had on 15, I had about 15 feet to win the match. Missed that. I saw them. And then on 16, I got like four and a half feet to win the match. I saw it. Lip out. But you know what I'm really proud?

Like, I was walking to the 17th T and I missed that putt. But I was okay. Like, I was okay. I was managing my breathing. I was walking. I wasn't walking too fast. And, you know, he, we both had incredible shots into 17. And now the crowd's like really getting worked up.

Like, they're messing with me. they're, you know, they're chanting my name. They're going like, he, and like stuff like that. In a French accent. Yes, yes. He makes an incredible pot on 17. Now we're going down 18, one up.

And you can tell when things are coming around your match when all the TV cameras are there. The captain's there and your whole team is there. So I'm, I got an idea here like that my point could be the point. and I'm getting ready to hit my shots. The hardest T shot in the course and the crowd is like, they're, my caddy's trying to calm

them down. They're screaming and they're, don't hit it in the water. Like, they're all over me. I finally had to say to my caddy, Scotty, I was like, just don't worry about it. I'm just, I gotta just go. They don't need no road dock.

They don't need anything. We don't got enough room. We don't need no fucking road dock. And I hit this drive just plastered right down the middle. Just drive him, out drive. And I can picture like looking up at it. Right.

Like, you know, like this is, if I hit in the water or whatever, I lose them, I have the match. And wait, wait, wait, right after you hit that one, right? You led, right? Did you look at, he, you know, he teed off first, he hit in the fairway. Or he hit in the, he hit it somewhere. Yeah, then you out drove him, right? Yeah. I remember, what did you, did you, did you walk, give him a look or did you walk by and just you're on your own?

I'm trying to stay upright at this point. That's all nervous I am. And Brandt Sandiker, I always. tell him this. He was the vice captain around my group and he came over and gave me a fist pound. And it's the best captaining job I've ever seen. He's the

next captain of the President's Cup team. I was so worried he was going to stand there and walk and try to talk to me and give me a pep talk and I just needed to be by myself. Yeah, read the room. I didn't need anything. And he gave me, and I'm really close to Brandt. And he gave me a fist

pump and he's like, great shot and just left me by myself. And I always have thought, like, of all the teams I've played on, that was the best job I'd seen as of captain because he knew, you know, what I needed at that point. And then I hit a good shot up there. So did he hit a good put. It didn't go in. And now he's got eight feet. And I haven't looked at the board. So like I'm thinking, you know, in my mind, he's going to make this. We're going to lose the President's Cup. And, you know, I'd been through so much to get back here. And the last time I was in this position, the Jamie Donaldson beat me to win the point. Yeah. So now here I am full circle of like, I can see my wife by the green, my parents,

like this is like pretty intense. And he's, no, they weren't there. But he's over the putt. And in this, it's probably similar to you when you're watching, you know, on the defense is out there. No, you can't do anything.

Malcolm Butler. Like, yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh shit, we won. Fuck yeah. Thank you, Michael. I'm just sitting there waiting to see what he does. And he missed it. And I was the clinching point to win the President's Cup.

Jim came out. I gave him a hug. I cried. 1,000% as you should. And like I just was so, I'd been passed over so many times on these teams. And he stuck his neck out and picked me. And, you know,

I was able to, like, feel that feeling of winning singles match. And then not many people get to experience winning the clinching point. Like, this is, this is special and, you know, I'm really proud of that. That's you as a kid in the alleyway with the boys with the Red Sox hat on saying, base is loaded. I'm taking it yard for the win.

Yes, sir. You got to live that. It really was, you know, and then like you're hugging all your teammates. Again, we don't ever get to do this. And you get to celebrate with teammates. Yeah. And we're, now we're going to get shit face that. You don't get to do that with the group. lives are going to be pissed in a couple hours.

And, you know, to share that with Jim, because Jim was the captain of the Radder Cup team in Paris that lost. And he got to go out and, you know, win as a captain. And, you know, I wanted that for him more than anything. And to be able to, you know, have him there and give him a hug on 18 and then get all the boys around and, like, be in the press conference and, like, everyone's, you know, drinking, if you're asking questions, nobody gives a shit.

It's just like, it's just like, it feels, it's what I imagine what it would be like to be on a real team like you got to be on that that we miss out on you know it's just special it's got to be in and we're envious that you get to represent the country you know in our team sport you know like you get to wear that flag that flag on your shoulder hang with the boys there's like more merit to that yeah right I'm so envious of that like these new football guys may get to go play flag football and get a gold medal. I heard Brady's going to be the quarterback. No way.

That's the Saudi shit. I heard that from a reliable source. You might need to like get the spikes. I ran hills four days ago and I still have swollen in my neck. Oh no. Still. You need to be able to run to be a fight for one quarterback. Thank you for not going to Tampa.

No, I couldn't. How close? Not very close. But they wanted you, I would assume. Yeah. Tommy hit me up. He's like, you want me to get you down here? Yeah. I'm good. That was, that was, I,

I, Tom Brady's my hero. Yeah. Seeing him in that Buckner's uniform made me sick. Yeah. It was, you know, I, I'm happy for, I mean, I think it's awesome just because first, you know, I mean, he goes and does the Peyton Manning

went on two different teams. I think there's a lot of other external stuff for his career that he needed and he wanted, and plus, bro, like, if he would have stayed with the Patriots, we'd have had the same team. Like, we were in such Capel. He did the smart thing. He went to a place that he could win with.

I was hanging on by threads. We weren't going to get any other skill guys. Why didn't Malcolm Butler playing that Super Bowl? I still don't know. I know you know. You tell me after or no? I'll tell you after. I'll tell you after.

Oh, man, just to put a bow on this thing, Team USA would go on to win their 10 straight presidents cup. Patrick Cannelly led the team going, 4 1 and 0, Kagan went 2 1 and 0. Team USA would move to 13, 1 in 1 in President's Cup. Those are Patriots versus Jets numbers. I mean, golly. Keegan would go on to have an insane 20-25 season.

Captain the Ryder Cup team. Finished 10th in FedEx Cup standing six top tens, 11 top 25, 19-021 cuts made. Won the travelers, baby. They got to rename that thing to Keegan Bradley open. He owns that thing. Heck, yeah. You guys celebrate all together? Oh, yeah.

Like, it's a full... Where are you guys in Montreal? We go back to the team room. No, we stay in the team room. Team room. And it's like, smart. It's just so fun. Smart guys.

Yeah, we don't go out. Yeah, they guys are smart. These guys are all like, these guys are. We would have been in a freaking, yeah, go back at some crazy thing. These guys are all like really like good, like they're not going out. They're like, they're going to like go to bed and like drink water in the morning. Like I'm like, guys, come on.

You mean to tell me those old Ryder Cup teams with Tiger, though, they be going out. And go on there was. Jimmy, if you're. I'll have a couple drinks. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Oh, man. All right, we got to grade this thing.

We got to come together with a name. We got a brainstorm this thing together. We got 10 straight. Let's name the game. Score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score decimals encouraged. These are the names we came up with.

If you have a name that I know you've been working on. Yeah. Potentially. So what we got will come up. We'll unite to one of these names. The 10 straight match. Okay. The Keegan clincher match.

Am I going to be like the biggest loser if I like that one? No. I like that. The cup clinch, the red, white, and Bradley match. This one's for Jim. I like that one. I like that one. I like that.

That's the name. This one's for Jim, the Keegan clincher match. There it is. We'll do a little hybrid. Add some semicolins. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. remember decimals always encourage stakes of this

2024 president's cup 0 to 10 decimals encouraged the stakes of this match 7.1 7.1 explain pro score well the interesting thing about the I can't compare it to the 2018 aFC championship game I mean why can't you well I am with my score I think but the weird thing about the president's cup is like you gave us the our record there. 10 straight.

We're supposed to win. It's like, it's actually, there's some nerves there because you're not supposed to lose it. Standard. That's it.

Standard. Yeah. A standard. So I've been thinking a lot about this because I feel like I have to score this game with the other games that we're on.

So I'm going to give it a 7.1. You guys a man of integrity. See golf? He doesn't move his fucking ball. He doesn't like a true game with names watcher. He didn't just find his ball. Nope. That's his ball.

That's his ball. That's his ball. Star, oh, for me? Shit. Anytime you get to put the U.S. on your freaking sleeve to least an 8-1. Oh, wow.

Okay. Got to go 8-1. 8-9. 8-9. Ooh. 9-7-1. I'm a noted... Oh, look at these two.

Noted dimplehead. I mean, Jack is doing to glaze. Oh, I'm known. Hey, guilty is charged. We're not talking Duncan. Star power of this President's Cup. 8.2. 8.2.

This guy watches the show. Yeah, I do. This guy fucking watches the show. I got to go I'll go West Welker 8 3 8.3 8.3 Oh my God 96

Hello Boy the glazing allegations Don't get any better Scotty I love Scottie out there I also I peer pressure Jack to lower his score earlier today

Oh yeah it was a 98 I'd be mortified if this was ahead of any of the Patriots Like Super Bowls or anything I'm going to get out of here The gameplay of this weekend Which was an unbelievable game play

Up 5 down 5 I'm going to rate this pretty high. I'm going to do that at 8.9. I'm going to go with the 8.5, Ocho Cinco. Mm-hmm. I was an 8-9. We're in the same ball horse. Oh, me and Keegan, twins. And now we got a name,

now we got to grade the name of the match, which is this one's for Jim, the Keegan clincher match. I love the name. I, I'm going to, look at how much higher my scores are getting as we go here. All right. Again, I got to be fair here.

So I'm going to go 8.6. They do say golf's a gentleman sport. That's a gentleman's scoring. It's integrity scoring right there. For me, no one saw. I'm going to go 8-7. Okay.

No one saw. Bron saw. No one saw. 7.5. I would like to up it. I would like to up it, but I'm... What is this thing? I had a 5.1.

No, I have 5. Loans for some matches. and they're in front of the people. And like, they want to fight me, not him. I'm like, what are we doing? I kind of want to up my name, but I guess I'll leave it. I'll leave it. 8.0. Where is this on the list?

First golf match. Okay. We're our new 49th game. Tied with U.S.C. 229, Habib, Khabib versus McGregor. Okay, I like where this is rated. I feel comfortable with this. Just below the eye-quit-bats, the Rock versus Mankind.

The Gruden podcast was amazing. Gruden's fun. Oh, it's a football fan. Like, that's what I'm wanting to hear that stuff. Like the intricacies of, he's a beauty, huh? He is. I mean. You think he could still go out and coach?

Yeah. You think he will? If he gets an opportunity. He should. We'll see. Anytime stuff like that and there's lawsuits with leagues. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like a shrug game is 36th. Wow. To be fair, we did that with Keek, uh, Kell Mitchell. Okay. So like, of Keenan and Kel. Yeah. Oh my God.

And we didn't have any orange. Oh, that, that, that's 2003 AFC championship game is, is way, that should be higher. Where's that? That's 28.

I, I'd put, that's got, that's one of the best ever. I was with Willie. Willie Mac. We did that. Willie Mac.

Yeah. We got, we got to, we got to, we got to get that higher. I don't know. Was it 2000? No,

that's the Thai law. Oh, that was Thai law. That was Thai law. I fought the law and the law won. That was way too low of a score. Yeah. Way too low.

I almost did. That was going to be my second choice. Yeah. Where's our Red So. Because that game was great in the Peyton Manning Brady. Right. Right. Because it was like,

yeah, okay. The 04. It was 12. It's, yeah. It's kind of low, but it was hard because that's a,

that's a series thing, not a, I mean, that game was pretty fucking good too. Yeah. we have this is our first golf match though it's our first it's our first king who is the next golfer we need in and what match do we need to do that's a good question jack i have a bias and why is the tiger words who do you think i want to get freddy couples andrew to that 92 masters for sure my guy i watch freddie couples will be so good in here oh my goodness that's my take what about what do you think he's the man i love him i agree i'm 100% agreeing with you and he's a he lives out here does he or not only got in l-a but he you got a wait Get him out here. I would love to.

I would just love to just be in the same room with him. Maybe the energy will get my tempo like his. He was a tempo town. I played for, he was a captain of president's cup team I played on. We won. He did, he captained three presidents,

he kept in teams, won all three of them in a row. He's still playing the master's? Is he going to play this year? Of course he'll probably do great. He always does. He always does. Who else is the old guy that always plays well in the masters?

Who am I thinking? Angel Cabrera? He always does. Didn't he play like three years ago and you play second or something? Yeah. Augusta is like a very specific type of golf course. So if you play well there, like it's tough.

It's like a weird play. So if you have a vibe there, you're going to play well there for a long time. Do you have a vibe there? Hopefully this year. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

I mean, nothing gets me more warm and fuzzy than when I start to see the commercial for the masters. Do I see a preseason game? Hello, yeah. 120,

2008 season. It's ahead of some regular season game. Oh, Dola? Yeah, Dola had a Cowboys preseason game in here. Wow. Might be ahead of a Stanley Cup final game. Why did we put him on there with that?

Because I think we'd done so many games already with him. No, it's because we had to deal with Hasbro and they wanted to do a cowboys game because of the transformer. And this is the game he got cut on on hard knocks. And hard knocks. Yeah. What's the beef with Am and Belichick?

Is it just back bad? Dola? Yeah. No, it's just Dola's like, Dola's like the real, he's like a real cool guy. Yeah. We're like,

sometimes he can't decipher business decision from like, yeah, anything else. So like, he'll be like,

nah, I'm married, I just won't, I won't fuck with him no more. Right. You know what I mean? Do you see, do you see a world where Belichick

is given a, wave in the center of Gillette Stadium and like comes home and is like... Yeah, dude. I mean, Kraft said he's going to build a statue. He already kind of had that at the Brady retirement too. I feel like a lot's gone down since then. But I hope he does. He will.

You know, we all love our miserable coach out there. Yeah, I mean, even just watching the 2018 AFC championship game, like watching on the sidelines felt like cozy. Like, yeah, the hood on. It was like, this, it seems Brady's throwing it to Edelman. In Gronk and Belichick got the hoodie on, this feels right. Always right with the world. But I tell you right now, Rables looks cozy too.

God, I love. So, Brab's on the sideline gets me a little cozy too. Oh, me too. So I'm going to the playing the U.S. Open at Brookline. And I'm going into the final round. I'm two back. I'm in the second and last group in Boston. This is like a big deal to me.

And I was staying at this house and there was like, you couldn't go through this trap. There's cops ever, but these cops were, they knew who I was. we're pulling the barriers away. I'm going through like these secret roads. And I come across Vrable walking down the street. And I roll the window down. I'm like, right?

Like I knew him from some other time. He's in the fucking tournament. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's coming over to me. And he said to me, so like for us, like you never want, like the advice is always underreact.

Don't do any. Do your routine? And he said, you know what I want you do today? I want you to run to the ball. And I just was like, hell yeah. I wrote it in my yardage book. And me and my buddy still sent it to each other. Run to the ball.

It's like the opposite advice you would ever give anybody. And I loved it. Run to the ball. Is it a witty bastard? Did it work? I buggy the first three holes run into the ball. Come on. I brought it back.

I brought it back. God. Man. King, did we miss anything? No, I just, I'm just so grateful for what you did with the Patriots. You know, I, like I said to you, I just think sports are so important. And, you know, I can base my life around Patriot moments.

And like when I was a kid, I watched, you know, the first one in the basement with my dad and, you know, a few with my dad and with my buddies. And then in the middle of my life, I got to go watch winning Super Bowls with my wife. And then later in my, I held my son when guys beat the Rams. And then I just brought my son to the Patriots, the last Super Bowl in San Francisco. and I'm just, I'm so grateful for Boston sports. I'm so grateful for what you did for the Patriots and for New England and for Boston. And it just means everything to me

what you guys did for us. Because it's really important. Like it's really important what sports do to people and how they bring people together and, you know, amazing moments I have with my family are based on what stuff that you were doing out in the field. putting the rally cap on down 283.

You watch and you catch that ball, that ball bouncing around and just like the joy that you've brought to me over the years. I'm grateful. And then to this podcast, I listen to everyone. I get so, when the dynasty came,

the documentary, this is the real dynasty. Hey. This is the real one. We were getting all, that was, if you noticed that, we were getting all the castoffs.

I mean, here in Thailand, and hearing like, the stores we want, here. Like the, you know, that just, um, it's just great. I'm like, still, I'm 39 years old and I'm like a 13 year old Patriot fan. Like, I just can't get it off. So just being here is really great. No, man, we appreciate you coming into that house and, and, and coming on. First golfer, insane. And, uh, as a person that got to play for a Boston team, we don't take that lightly. And we understand that community of winning.

that it is of Boston. I mean, it's so unreal that in my career there, we won a basketball championship, a couple of hockey, a couple baseballs. We won three or one basketball. And it's just like it's when you're part of it, you don't just feel part of the team. You feel part of the community.

Like you said, the sport brings everyone together. Could you think of a better place you could play? No, I couldn't. I honestly, For me, no. I mean, Chicago would be kind of cool. No, Chicago.

No. But if you won in Chicago. Yeah, if you won in Chicago. If you won in Chicago. Because Chicago has semi-Boston vibes. Yeah, it does. But a little, you know, Midwestier.

Nice. But, like, I like the old traditional, like, I was blessed in fortunately. I got to play in a cornerstone city. But there is other cornerstone cities. You look at the New York's. those are cool teams. I would never want to play for them,

but where the Chicago's, you know, Niners are pretty cool. I just think, but Boston is. You are forever connected. Yeah. To that city.

Like, forever. And you're from California. And I'm from California. But you're a part of them forever. Well, you know, a lot of people,

I was born in California, but I grew up basically as a young adult. Yeah. From 22 to 36 in Boston. Hell yeah. You know, and when I go home,

to Boston, when I go to my home in Boston, that feels like home now. Does it really? Yeah, more than coming out here. Really? Yeah, it's pretty nuts. I mean, I had, like, just like you, I had so many unbelievable memories and relationships with not people, not with just people from the organization, but people that, you know, live in Boston, from Boston.

And it's just, it was a dream to get to play for them. Yeah. And I think, like, what you did with you. your career with being seventh round pick and coming from Ken State makes it even more special. And I think in playing in Boston, like, they recognize that. Yeah. Like I don't, maybe Chicago and a few other places, but like, never. No, I mean, we're very similar type people. Yeah. The way I, I mean, just how I am as a person in Boston as a city, you know, dirt in your fingernail, hard hat, lunch pale to work

fucking hard days freezing they recognize the goddamn chair outs to save our fucking spot because of the snow you know all that shit yeah I lived it I just I

again like I would do anything to feel to feel that this is the closest I can come but I just think you know even even you know I went to a game went to the Falcons then he played the

I went to brought my son to a game this year and just being in the stadium and like feeling the energy and feeling the people and like I just don't think there's anywhere else in the country that feels like that for sports. And, you know, last 20 years. That's for God, dang sure.

And the fans, it just seems like, you know, I've obviously ultra-biased. I have a group chat with three of my best friends and they call it the Patriot because I only talk about the Patriots they get pissed. But I feel like the fans are so knowledgeable. One more question.

Would you guys ever, because I listen to Felger and Maz every day. Would you guys ever listen to, would you guys ever listen to them? They're brutal. They play you guys sometimes. Oh, yeah, I love, I'm a Zoe and Beetle guy. Oh, you are? I like Zoe. Would you ever tune in to Felger and Maz after a loss?

You would hear, you know, later in my career, you'd see the cutups. Yeah. You know, just because of social media. You would see certain stuff here and there. But, nah, you know, Bill did a real. really good job of trying to like keep us. He made work so hard during the day that like I was thinking about work at home. You know what I mean?

And by the time, you know, you've been to my first, you know, I never not had a buy in the playoff. So like every year after that, you're like so trying to get back to that. They did a great job with leadership, the coaching, the leaders of the team of keeping guys really, you know, in the moment. Yeah. You know, I think that, that works for anything, right? That's everything, yeah.

You don't feel anxiety. If you look into the future, you don't feel stress, looking into the past or whatever that bullshit. Just work on what's on your plate right now. I think we had great guys do that. You know, it may not have been the best practices of how to do that. Yeah. You know, just because you get to go to work and you're on a low light or something,

you're getting bitched at or you're not getting a praise for doing something you're expected to do, but you know what I mean? Yeah. Like those types of things, those things kept you zoned in on the game, for me at least. You know? Right. Yeah. It's crazy, you know, like, when you're America's most wanted every week for your whole career,

I got in there. They already had three Super Bowls and they still had Tom Brady. So like, it was like, no matter what you were supposed to win. So like that, you know. I mean what you said, those nerves. When he was given the play in the huddle, would he ever say anything, like any, like, hype or anything, like, or would he just give you the play? It depend on the series.

Like, he would give little reminders, so he'd run through the play, all right? You know, Rangers, Rangers, Rangers, Rangers, Fing to Zero out Slav Fing, right? 1-34, hey, you two, get that, get that double team or whatever. I want, right-134 F-bow ice. Jules, on the bow. get him running on his hips on the ice I'm gonna come back to you Lafelle on the back backside read like he'll do that quick

but it was never like all right guys John Candy's right over there like Joe Montaanda you know it was never like that really because it was so everything was really everything had a rhyme and reason and everything was like so meticulously thought out

where we tried to get our play call out clean fast so we get the line of scrimmage identify what they were giving us have the, you know, the quarterback able to talk with the coordinator until 15 seconds. So the faster you got there, they could communicate a little. So, like, there were so many processes

and operational type skills that you were going through that, like, you didn't have that. Yeah, I just, I always, like, as a fan, you just want to be in the huddle. And you're like, what do you say? Sometimes, I mean, you would get like, all right, boys, come on, lock it in.

We need it this drive. Right. Come on. Yeah. You know, he's got the high with it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Chal!

Joe! I need you. I think you say this shit like that. Everyone, go check out Boston Common Golf. That's that. TGL, baby. TGL.

That's the fucking... And Jupiter, we got to get you down. I know. Thing is, I don't like hitting off a mat. No, it's grass. It's grass. Oh, it's fucking grass. Got any more excuses or what...

Ryan, dude. I don't want you to see my sweet. We need a Florida golf trip about it. I saw you. Not a bat what I got here. What are you talking about? I just wanted to see if I was in the slot. I wanted to see if I was in the slot.

Max Home would be busting my balls for a couple of years. Now I'm not in the slot. Can you confirm was I in the slot? You were in the slot. I was in the slot. Everyone go get the Jordan brand. Gotta go get those Jordan cleats. Anything else we got a plug?

No, man. I'm just pumped to be here. That president's cup means the world to me. being here with you guys. This means a lot. This means the world does. We've been having circled this one for months. We have. Pick some of the year.

Let's go. Dude, thank you for coming. Kick ass in the Genesis this weekend, ma'am. Wow, that was fun. He's a really genuine dude. What a guy.

He's a heart of gold. Love. Was a big fan before? Bigger fan after. Way bigger fan. I'll be fucking rooting for him. Like, I always knew he was a New England guy.

Oh, yeah. And I seen the Red Sox hats and, you know, but he's a guy. You want to play on the same team with. He's the man. All-time Foxhole guy. What a...

I love Keegan. That was awesome. He really loves the team aspect of the team golf. He does. Blue guy. You know, and it's really cool to hear his perspective of that because the individual sports,

they probably fiend for that. Yeah, you're on an island, you know? You know, it's just you. Like, they try to create their little team with their caddy and their coat, but like, it's just him. Man, it was cool to get that perspective. That was so cool.

What a great pick. All-knower. He was coming in here. He wanted to talk Patriots. He was like, hey, the UFC championship. He was like, what's the one of yours?

Come on, dog. He said he listens to every episode. He did, I love. That was so cool. He really did. He did. He knows ball. He knows the show.

Friend of the show. Gosh, that was so cool. Did we successfully weasel our way into an invite to Grove 23, Michael George George. What about the we might be liberal? The we might be liberal. The Jewel's definitely.

I think he said the boys. And these are the boys. I thought I don't know. Play it back. We'll play it back. We'll play it back. But I did just get a signed hat. Woo!

And he said the boys. I like that. Oh my God. I would die and go to heaven. Yeah. Man. You know, he's all nervous and shit. That's how I'm going to be playing golf with him.

I loved how human he was. Like, you feel like a golf would come here and be like, no, I'm never nervous. I'm the blah, but he was like, oh,

I'm scared of shitless. I couldn't stand up. No, and he really does. He does got that East Coast Boston guy. Like when he didn't want, didn't want any of the guys young. that's a bossing guy it is yeah yeah yeah fuck that guy yeah look at him now yeah baller you know

we'll have to make him a regular yeah literally every year in the genesis yes yeah friend of the show regular because you know he's listening a resident golf a resident golf correspondent kegan next year yeah we got to get kegan we just got to call we got to get on like cool enough with him where we could just if we need a golf we could just face time hey and then we could just bring him into the show like, yo, on this, like, if you pick up your, if it's in a red steak, can you like, do you use it a two-stroke penalty or what? I'm sure. I'm in the slot or what?

We'll make him the capa. He said I was in the slot. Oh, he'll be our Brooks, what is it? With the PMT guy that thing. Oh, yeah, isn't it Brooks Kepler? Yeah, Brooks Kepler. He'll be our version of that. Yeah.

Like that. Yeah. I think we got a better one. We got the best one. Yeah. I'm actually, I know Brooks a little. He's pretty cool, too. He seems like the man.

Brooks is pretty fucking cool. Now that he's back on the good side, we get him back in there. Welcome back, boys. Glad to have you. Is that me he could go on the Ryder Cup team? We shall see. We shall see.

I think so. I'd take him back. I'd take him back. I mean, fuck. You take who the best is. Amen. That's what it is. That's all it matters, baby,

when it comes down in country. Shit. That was so fun. Let's hope the Boston Common wins. Yeah. You get a duck parade. Duckboat. And we'll go to the parade.

We'll go to the parade. We'll go to the parade. We'll go to the parade. We'll go to the parade. The Duck Poat parade for the GSL. TGL. TGL. TGL, baby.

I can never say, what is it? TGL. I know, but what is... Boston Common Golf Club? Simulator. Simulator. Golf simulator. Yeah.

Jesus. It's like a next level sim. That's like some 21st century. They got real grass? Yeah, they bring it. It weighs like a thousand pounds. It's like this huge, like, chunk of grass. They like crane it in.

How tall of the ceil is? It's huge. They built a whole place for it. Man. Like the ceiling. like, I don't know, like 100 feet high, like, that's awesome. Real sand, too.

You know what? Yeah, real sand. That would be cool. We got to go check it out. I'm so down. We got to go check out Boston. Oh, yes. We Boston Strong.

Florida A. And we got Rory over a Boston. And we got Rory. We got Rory. Rory. Rory. Hey, Rory. Come on, Roar.

It's late here. Imagine Boston people saying. Rory. Rory. Hey, Rory. Hey, Rari. He was born to be a Boston coming. Go.

He was born. Farree. Chip. All right. Well, we're going to come to you with a quick dudes on dudes update. The show will be taking a quick postseason break. Rob and I got to rest up after that long NFL season. We'll keep you guys posted.

In the meantime, check out some of the banger episodes we just dropped. Jason Kelsey, A.J. Brown. And we'll see you soon with a lot more dude talk. What a game. Thanks again to Keegan. Outstanding guest. A plus first golfer. I want to talk more about MAAA golf.

You know what? I bet you the golfers. I know. You feel a golfer. The golfers are probably like, they're great storytellers. They don't get hit in the head. They can remember.

They're already kind of smart to begin with. They're very smart guys. Yeah. They're academic. So I think we need to get 20 more golfers. I would love that. Maybe we'll let Tiger come on. Maybe.

We'll see. We'll see. We love you. Please, Tiger. Please, please, please. And that's been another episode of games with Dave, subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to Podcast. Comment a game you want us to do. And remember? Rate and review. Leave us a five-star review on Spotify while you're there. Remember to follow

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