Games with Names - Monday Night Marino with Bill Burr | Week 13, 1985: Bears vs. Dolphins

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Bill Burr is in studio for a very special episode presented by Coors Light! The legendary comedian and diehard sports fan is with us to talk one of the greatest Monday Night Football games of all time: Bears vs. Dolphins from the 1985 season. Bill joins us on the couch (2:36). We get into the teams (1:14:35). We dive into the game (1:25:48). We score it (1:29:40). We wrap up with a timely edition of the Chill Line presented by Coors Light (1:48:27). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You do do a lot of these dancing monkey gigs. I do. And this is probably the bottom of the list. Damn. Welcome to a very special episode of Games with Names presented by Coors Light. I'm Julien Edelman, they're Jack and Kyler, and we are on a mission to find the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode, we are covering Bears vs. Dolphins, Week 13, 13 1985 Monday night football game with legendary comedian, die-hard sports

fan and Boston icon, Bill Burr. And we get into talking his thoughts on the current National Football League. The NFL is in a bad place. The only storyline they have right now is Kenny Three Pete. His Boston sports Mount Rushmore. And I can only pick one white wide receiver, so I'll go with Wes Welker. Ha ha ha ha. Where Dan Marino ranks in all time.

Nobody could beat the Bears. And this guy went in, he had no weapons, no defense. And then we get in to the Chill Zone presented by Coors Light. We're hitting the old Chill Line to answer your questions about this week's game. You gotta stick around to the very end. Let's go. Games with names, a production of iHeart Radio. December 2nd, 1985. The Orange Bowl, Miami, Florida.

17-year-old Bill Burr with an orange Afro. No girlfriend. Flunking bath. He sits down in front of a square TV. Perfection is in the sights for the monsters of the Midway. On Monday Night Football. But Don Schula and Dan Marino have other plans. This is the Bears vs Dolphins, Week 13, 1985.

Applause Welcome to Games with Names. Today we have a very special guest to talk about a very random game. How dare you? We're going to talk about the 1985 Week 13 Bears vs Dolphins Monday Night Football game with Bill Burr. And Bill, I have one question to ask you in one sentence. Okay. Why did you pick this game? Because after Dan Marino played or during his career, he got all of this crap that he couldn't win the big one. And he had no weapons. He had no defense. He had an older coach who was he had a chain of steak houses. shoeless, right? The game had passed him by. It wasn't like, you know, he kept, you know, uh, uh, adding to his game.

They caught up to him. The guy had no running back. He had nothing. He had no help. Okay. And everybody was saying, oh, you know, like making it sound like this guy wasn't good. He's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time who had no help. And in 1985 nobody

could beat the Bears and this guy went in with with like a regular defense not only beat him, smoked him 38 to 24. Dude they were beaten like the Cowboys who were just perennial you know Tom Landry you know late in his career. They beat him like 44 to nothing. I remember that on the cover in his career. They beat him like 44 to nothing. I remember that on the cover of Sports Illustrated and the 46 defense dude was like mythical by the fourth week of the season and no one was going to stop these guys and they were going to win the Super Bowl which God knows they did against my Patriots. We were up three to nothing though. Tony Franklin. Three to nothing. Yep, and he went in and just straight up beat him. And I just always feel like one of the biggest curses in sports, there it is, I still remember that cover.

And that was mind blowing. That was mind blowing that the Dallas Cowboys could get beat that bad at home. They absolutely destroyed him. But like one of the biggest curses in the NFL is to be a highly sought-after draft pick, right? Because you usually end up on a bad team. But then he lucked out going so late in the draft for reasons we're not going to discuss. But if you ever go to Pittsburgh you can figure it out pretty quickly.

I don't know Pittsburgh like that but I can put one in one together. Yeah. He got around town. Now, bill, is this the greatest game of all time? Um, no, I, well, I figured everybody's going to pick like, you know, you guys first, the, uh, the Falcons or something like that, but like, this is one of the most overlooked gains of all time. And all of these like

You know fat sports writers who were never picked in gym class They they can't wait for the dip in somebody's career and their thing with him Well, we can't win the big one and blah blah blah and they ignore this game They ignore the people around remember like his running backs were like Delvin Williams during his career Tony Nathan Kareem Abdul Jabbar the football player. I remember like his running backs were like Delvin Williams during his career, Tony Nathan, Karim Abdul-Jabbar, the football player, swear to God. And he had Duper and Clayton who were fantastic. They were really good.

Fantastic. I don't know, but like the Dolphins had like the last two white cornerbacks in the league. They had like, they had like, who was it? The Greg and Lyle and Kyle Blackwood or something like that. The exciting whites. Yes, there you go. Yeah, the one was just, okay.

One was a strong safety. I don't know what the other guy was. Okay, you got all the names here. Fulton Walker, you remember the first guy to take a kickoff back in a Superbowl. Don't remember that. But look at, look at these names. Does any of these names, anybody here jump out at you like,

oh my God. Dan Marino. Okay, Dan Marino. Don Chula. Don Chula. Look at that team. You're telling me this team beats the 85 Bears. They do and why?

Because the guys were at home with the champagne glasses trying to defeat the undefeated, the old Miami Dolphin guys. Now you played this game professionally, right? I did. I tried. Okay. And so you just went with that ESPN take? I tried. You know? Honestly, this is...

You know, it was 85 degrees in Miami. Chicago is a cold weather team. Honestly? I've got to tell you, I got to go. That's hard. That's fucking hard. What is hard? Do you see our record in fucking Miami in December? It's like, oh, in like a million.

Because when you go from- Because it was too hot out? Or because you guys went to South Beach the night before? You think we went to South Beach the night before with Bill Belichick? Any place there's hot ass. You think we went to Bill Belichick? Any place there's hot ass, you think we went to Bill Belichick? Any place there's hot ass,

your team, every year I watch it with the Bruins and the Celtics, they come here, they go down to Anaheim, oh they play the Clippers and the Lakers, they always lose one. There's always, one night is always the party night and then we're gonna try against the Lakers. That's basically what it is.

Yeah. If you saw the Celtics with the big three against the no-name Clippers, it was 50-50 that they going to lose that game badly. I used to go to Miami and it's the same thing. It's a bunch of 60 year old guys dressed all in white linen like Hannibal Lecter when he's gonna eat that guy at the end of the movie. And they're hanging out with like these 21 year olds.

And then you guys get down there and you're like, wow, what is this? Some wide eyed kid from Kansas, wherever the fuck you're from. You can't handle it. You can't handle it. And you go down, and what do you do? You lose money for guys like me. And I came here today for an apology.

I'm sorry, Bill. I'm fucking, well, can we just, can we discuss, what's the greatest game of all time to you then? What is your greatest game of all time? I mean, how do you pick the greatest game of all time? This isn't like stand up where you just go Richard Pryor and you're done. No.

The greatest game of all time. I don't know, I'm an underdog guy, so I always like underrated stuff. Like one of the greatest fights I ever saw was Michael Dokes versus Evander Holyfield, and they never bring it up. I don't know why. It's an incredible fight.

This game they never bring up. Or maybe I'm a contrarian. Maybe that's the way I keep people away, you know, and I don't let them in. You know? Like you know how much I'm enjoying whatever the fuck this is between us? It's fantastic. If I had to sit even closer to you and your Suzanne Summers Reeboks, I would really be uncomfortable. Suzanne Summers? Those are men's sneakers. These are men's sneakers. Those are men's sneakers. That's what you guys are doing.

That is the future of this country that a man can walk around with borderline slippers. I know they have a stripe on the side of them. But these are the same shoes from like 1970. You were probably wearing them. Have you ever seen the ladies with leg warmers that wore them when I was growing up? No.

You look like you should be doing this. This is a nurse shoe. Okay everybody. Is this a nurse shoe to you? Huh? It's a nurse shoe. Are you calling that? No, it's feminine.

It trans, you're very progressive. You're wearing bracelets. I like this whole after football you. You know this is- Did you have to sit on this your whole career and act like you like stakes? My daughter made this. Huh? My daughter made that. was that supposed to make me ease up on you. No, that's just all right literal the truth You know, what's the greatest thing about? I have a seven-year-old daughter. I went in because I don't have a desk or anything because I'm an adult So I was trying to write out something so I sat down at her desk

She was in school the greatest thing but I'm a seven-year-old. There was cookie crumbs on top of the desk. It just fucking made me laugh. Like, this kids are so funny. They think that they're sneaking and they always like the level of evidence that they leave. Kids and people who whack CEOs. It's just the level of like evidence that they leave around. I love that.

I love that everybody thought that that was a professional hit. You sit in there talking to some chick in like Starbucks DNA, backpack, cell phone, still carrying the gun. He was professional enough to do the shelling though, the shell thing. You know what I loved about him? I loved his belief, you know, that like he had a whole list and it's like, all right, that's the first guy. Like he was just going to go around like it was some Tom Cruise movie. And like somehow he was like the born identity.

He's going to be like, you know, Tokyo drifting around city is like killing SCOs and they weren't going to catch him immediately. I mean, come on. Like if he just, if he just shot some shit head in the back, oh my God, what's going on with New York? And they would eventually got to it. But like the level that they went after that guy, the level, you can't have that. Money can't have money unless they make the call.

You can't have some rando coming around to side and he's not at the table. He's not with the Illuminati. Can I ask you a question? When you bring chicks over, do you take out the guitar? No, that's actually Kyler's. Oh, I thought that was yours. I really just picture you. I'm a pianist. Ooh, dream weaver. It was just picture.

Yeah. Serenade. It's after football. I need a new angle. I can't hit him with the stats anymore. No stats. So Bill. What?

What's the day life nowadays for you? What are you doing these days? Well, I just scratched the rim of my car because I can't park new cars anymore. You sit so low in them. You know what I mean? What kind of car? What kind of car do I have?

I have a Jaguar, because everybody has a BMW or a Mercedes, and I have kids and I needed a backseat. But now I found out that the Jaguar has like the same engine as like the Land Rover, Range Rover. Yeah, they're English cars. Yeah, and they're like notorious like lemon lawns. Is this on the internet or is this on real TV?

Because then I have to lie and be like Range Rovers are a fantastic investment. No, my mechanic already told me he goes no matter what you do with this car, it's junk. By the time it's 100,000 miles and it already like overheated. It's annoying. You know what I mean? So I don't know what I'm gonna do My dad's a mechanic and the first thing he ever told me is never buy an English car. Yeah, what is there? You know, they just don't know

They're like the worst people on the planet because you take the Germans like the English not good with people not good with great with great with machines great with machines England just 0 for 2. 0 for 2, no Russian, no flossing. They got meat pies or something over there. What is their food? Chips and fish and chips? Other people, I don't know.

They just kind of go around the world. Yeah. I do love when I go over and they go, what's wrong with America? It's like, well, you started it. The fuck you, this was your baby, you know what I mean? And you taught us how to treat people. That's what's going on with it. I don't put it all on them.

A lot of it, I put a lot on the French too. It's a beautiful room. Yeah, it's cedar. This is the age we're at right now. This is the age. I just looked at your wall, it says a beautiful room. You got a little more excited. You go, this is cedar. I know. Oh, is that? So you can have like a wool sweater in here

and like moths, hair. It's actually great with bugs. It is. Yeah cedar wood is like really good with bugs. I think it doesn't allow bugs to live in it. I think it's more technical than that but okay. Something like that. There's something about the the wood. This is great. Don't you love when two dumb guys don't know what they're talking about? 100 percent. This is great. Don't you love when two dumb guys don't know what they're talking about? 100%. This is great. This is what people want to listen to. Well, let's go with it.

Yeah, so. There's something about, they don't like the smell of it. I think there's something to do with the radiant. I don't actually don't know, but I just wanted to throw that word out there. I like radiant, and I totally bought it when you said it. Yeah. I was like, he knows what this means.

I have no clue. I'm fucking, I'm a dumb football player, Bill. Now I'm a stupid comic. I do shit jokes. Yeah, but I don't think, honestly for me, I think comics are like some of the smartest people I've met. That's because you haven't hung out with us

and you're romanticizing the art. No, I have hung out with a lot of comics. Next you're gonna tell us we're sad clowns? No. They're so happy when they're on stage and then we just walk away, you know? No, there's definitely always something that has. I'm glad I was able to make your day more enjoyable.

For all the young comedians out there, that's one of the biggest lies ever that if you have enough fucking cameras, Jesus fucking Christ. Got you one, me one, us one. You're like the national news. Oh, okay, this would be, don't buy into that bullshit that if you're happy, you're not gonna be funny.

If you get married and I find love, you're not gonna be funny, it isn't. It's an amazing thing and it gives you a whole new way of viewing the world. And if you're funny, you're funny. That's what it is, right? Like if you somehow serenade the right woman, right, with that guitar, and you get married,

does that mean you can't catch a football anymore? Does that mean you don't have the desire? I tell you right now, I literally didn't get in relationships during my career because I felt guys got softer when they had marriage. I saw it firsthand. You did. So they're saying as far as your research goes. As far as my research goes.

I get that because I felt that like I saw a couple guys that were you know, I won't put no names out there, but they got married and it just felt like the The the main reason wasn't the main reason anymore. I tried to say something nice and then you just come at me with facts. I can't argue that, I know, cause then they'd be like, you got concussed again, Julian. And you're like, it's just a headache.

And they're going, no. My hip, it's my hip. It's my hip. Okay, let's jump in. If Tommy says I can go, that means I can go. When are you going to listen to me? And then Bill calls you. Yeah, the game started like a week ago. Where the fuck are you?

Did you see that recent one that Lawrence Taylor drove by Giant Stadium? You saw the lights on him and he was like, oh fuck, I have a game. Yeah. And showed up in the first quarter. He showed up late. They benched him for a series and then he went out and I think he had like seven sacks. All right. I'm going to tell a story. Okay. He showed up late, they benched him for a series, and then he went out and I think he had like seven sacks. All right, I'm going to tell a story, OK?

I don't feel like I'm talking out of school here, because this is a funny story. So I'm doing Inside the NFL. Phil Simms is on the show, and Lawrence Taylor is coming in. So it's Phil, Chris Collinsworth, Lawrence Taylor, and me, right? I mean, one of those classic, like, what in the hell Lawrence Taylor and me, right? I mean, one of those classic like, what in the hell am I doing here, right?

So Lawrence hasn't showed up yet. So Phil tells me a story. I go, I can't believe Lawrence Taylor is gonna be here. I mean, that guy was, he's just like, he literally changed the game. And I was just going on and on about him. I goes, you know what's funny about that guy? He goes, he didn't even know the names

of the teams in the leagues. I go, get the fuck out of here. He goes, you know what's funny about that guy? He goes, he didn't even know the names of the teams in the leagues. I go, get the fuck out of here. He goes, yeah, he goes, one time, he goes, we won some game, they were on the road and they're on the team playing, they're all hyped. And Lawrence is psyched and Phil goes, yeah, hey man, you know, if the Redskins lose, then we're gonna be in first place in our division.

And Lawrence goes, oh yeah, he goes, he goes, who's in our division? And Phil goes, you don't know who's in our division? And he goes, man, I he goes, he goes, who's in our division? And Phil goes, you don't know who's in our division? And he goes, man, I don't give a shit, right? And I'm thinking like, that is the genius of him. I don't need extra information in my head. You have a different uniform than me. I'm gonna ruin your day.

So I thought it was a hilarious story, but as always, you know, you think maybe put a little mustard on it or whatever. 10 minutes later, Lawrence Taylor comes walking in. Him and Phil both just start laughing, which was great. They just saw each other, they started laughing, they hugged and everything. You just know all the shit that they did back then. Who knows, right? So Lawrence sits down and he starts telling stories, right?

They just start telling things. And in the middle of one story he goes, he goes, we were down in New Orleans and we were playing the, and he goes, Phil, what we were down in, down in New Orleans and we were playing the, and he goes, Phil, what's the name of that team in New Orleans? And he goes, the Saints. He goes, we're playing the Saints. It was unbelievable. And then fat sports writers would, would,

would say that, you know, they would say that he wasn't smart, he was blah, blah. It's like, that's like some Einstein shit. I'm wearing the same shit every day. So my brain doesn't, I only need to worry about like, you know, you hear all those stories, how he would sleep through meetings and then get up and diagram the whole play, or they would ask him if it was OK. The guy is like a fucking savant genius genius.

But the fact that he didn't even know, like the fact that he's almost like a housewife in the level that he doesn't know the names of the teams, yet he's the most alpha dominating player that I ever saw. But you know why he seems like he fell out of the sky? Is because his favorite player was Hollywood Henderson. Yeah. And he was sort of, he was like, Hollywood Henderson was the gap

as far as the linebacking position between like, you know, Dick Butkus in that era and Him he came and it looked like he was an alien. It was because Unfortunately, Hollywood Henderson had like substance abuse problems and it affected his career. But one of the greatest Play another underrated play 1976 the Steelers are playing the Cowboys and The Steelers kick off, guess who receives it? Hollywood Henderson. They had a linebacker receiving their kick in 1976.

Like that just didn't happen and he took it all the way down the field to like their 45 and Roy Jarrella, their kicker, just sort of dove like that and his linebacker knee hit his ribs. Broke him. Yeah and fucked him up for the game and it's a for the game. And it's a really hard game to watch if you're a Cowboys fan because they were running reverses. I think that's what it was. It was a reverse on the kickoff. And they were doing all of this shit.

And then they got up and then they just sat on the ball. And the Steelers kept playing and then they came back and beat them. Man, how does it feel to be that old to remember a 1976 game that great? I watched it on YouTube. The first one I watched was 78. What's the first game you remember watching? Do you know? OJ Simpson was playing in like the early 70s.

Buffalo. Yeah, my dad's screaming at the TV. Or something, my grandfather going, you know, these are the old days. He's like packing a pipe to smoke it inside He's Sherlock Holmes Fucking no old men smoked pipe and I gotta be honest with you to this both my grandfather smoked pipes and to this day if I smell Pipe smoke it puts me in like the greatest mood because both my grandfathers were these amazing guys, guys.

Yeah, so that was probably the first one. But I've also gone back and I've watched all of this history of the NFL. And I'll tell you a great guy, and he just passed away unfortunately, and the NFL never gave him his due was this guy Marlon Briscoe. Briscoe. He played for the Broncos, black quarterback. They drafted him. He was like second or third string or something like that.

And both white quarterbacks go down. This is like the late 60s. And he goes in and you immediately see the modern modern day NFL. It wasn't just standing there throwing like that. He was all over the field. More Randall Cunningham, I would say, than Michael Vick. And he won like six of the last seven games, something crazy. And then, you know, they didn't make the playoffs

because they were having a bad season before he got in there. And then the next season, the team just drafted another high-ranked white guy, and they shipped him off to Buffalo, and he finished his career as a wide receiver. Wow. Yeah. Sounds like the 60s. Well, this is what a 60s. It sounded like right through the 90s, I feel. Yeah, I guess.

So that's what like, this is like all of this shit that I can, it was so fucked up, is I can remember all of that stuff. And I think because I looked at the football cards and I remember all the names. And then I also went back and I was fascinated like what happened right before I started watching football. And then today's game, like, you know, you age out as a player.

I also feel you can age out as a fan. And like how certain teams, like they sort of aged out during like free agency because their whole thing was the draft and their scouts and then when the game became more free agency they didn't adjust. I would say as a fan, the fan version of that is I didn't get involved in fantasy football. So now I don't know the player's name, I don't know what's going on, and then like, I also feel like they kind of sold their souls,

all professional sports, for offense, because they had reached maximum density with sports fans, and then offense gets the casual fan. Sells the tickets. Yeah, and I think that they are envious of the UFC to see them start so much later than them, but then go global. But there's something about soccer, football, whatever. And fighting, it just transcends all borders and all that, which I find like really fascinating. I find like really fascinating. Not fighting, because fighting, you know, it's like,

I remember Joe Rogan telling this story saying like, you know, if you're driving down the street and there's two people playing, you know, catch or whatever are playing base, you're not gonna really watch because, but if you drive down the street and you see a fight, like you gotta watch it. And it was sort of like this really,

true. Yeah, easy way of explaining how their thing got as big as it dig and I don't know what it is about soccer but everybody seems to enjoy it. Because all you need is a ball, kick it, banana leaves. But you can say that about hoop. I guess you need a basketball. But basketball is also very global. Yeah, okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. Your point about like how football is kind of changing and evolving, got soul to soul for offense

Is a conversation we have behind the scenes on this show a lot because we go watch a five game We watch a game from the early 2000s and the game is so different Oh, yeah, you don't even want to hear my conspiracy theory like my conspiracy theory right now is is The NFL is in a bad place because they only have one great quarterback. True, as far as like, there's always been Brady Manning, you know. What about Elway, Marino, Montana, Starrman. So who's your one great quarterback?

So. Mahomes. Mahomes is the guy that sells the tickets. I'm not saying there's not like great talent at that position, but nobody has put up sort of like, he doesn't have his, you know, Hatfield and McCoy guy. So it's sort of their own, the only storyline't have his Hatfield and McCoy guy. So it's sort of their own, the only storyline they have right now is Canny Three Pete.

So that's why like the ridiculous, that guy took his helmet off in the fucking end zone, the ref says put it back on. I mean, it's just like, he's like, you realize this is televised, right? Like what are we doing here? So, you know. That's a penalty.

It's supposed to be a penalty. Take your helmet off. That's 15. Yeah, so see now we're it's it's very fascinating to me that You know your sport shit like You know this shit. I know errors. We're we're doing this era Where does this sports fandom come from? like is your grandpa smoking the pipe, watching the Patriots or where did this all come from? Well my grandfather, you know, he was super old. He was born like 1892.

Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah, he had a, like my dad was a product of a second marriage. So like he had kids what was really late in life, which was like, he was like almost 40, you know So he was like in the wheel like horses old dad horses Yeah horses boxing and baseball So if you look at the turn of the last century horse racing and boxing were the two biggest sports and then baseball came on so

He was living through that and like, you know And then baseball came on. So he was living through that. And as far as having a cool car back then was like being able to handle a horse, probably a stable full of horses. I don't know. That was like some man shit. So he was into that.

And then he saw Babe Ruth and all of that, that whole baseball thing come on, and all of a sudden being able to listen to it on the radio and all of that. So he was kind of into the radio and you know he was like a classic older guy, both of them they were quiet you know what I mean and just you know smoked a pipe would have a little two fingers or whatever their drink was. Everybody had like their drink and you smoked

and you looked like you were 50 when you were 30. It was just like, that's just the way it was back then. But I remember I related to them. And I didn't know why, but now that I am an old man. You're not that old. I'm 56, dude, I'm fucking old, right? You look good. Yeah.

I was saying the other day, 56 times 2 is dead. All right, so like. It is. It is. You can go to whatever personal trainer, and they do your blood, and be like, you're 56, but your fucking ankle is 38 with that dumb shit that they say to get you to keep coming back.

It's like, no, everything on me is 56 years old. I might look better than the average 56 year old, but my heart has been beating for over half a century. So that is what it is. So. Must be the avocados. Bill came here, immediately had to scarf down an avocado because he's on that Hollywood diet now.

Yeah, I am out of shape right now in Hollywood terms. Boston guy. That's the least Boston thing you've ever done in front of me. That's the first fucking thing I've ever done in front of you. I met you once at the comedy store and then there. A couple other times, but yeah, I remember. Alright, what's the most Boston thing I ever did? Make fun of your fucking stupid sneakers?

No, that's a Boston thing, even though they look like they're from fucking Southie. But you know what, you can pull them off. Thank you. And that might be a compliment, that might be an insult. And doggone it, you should wear the sneakers that make you feel the prettiest. Are they that ugly? No, they're just really feminine.

Because they're white? No, I just think, no, I don't know what it is. There's just something about the soul. It's like that is not an active person. That's gum. That is like that is the soul of that lets somebody else drive. So what are you doing? All right. I don't know. Like that's what those sneakers say to me. Do you want to go out to dinner? Yeah, but I don't know what I want. That's a whole other side of you. I don't want to see. I want to keep the myth. What's the myth? I don't know. You spoke in proper English earlier and it really made me happy. Why? I can't speak. Instead, I got, yeah, you got dip in,

this is what I need. I need as someone who failed horrifically in athletics. I need to see the flaws. You're seeing them, buddy. You're fucking seeing them. I'm not, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, you look like you can still play. So grandpa, pops, old ass dad, old guy.

1800 grandpa, that's fucking 1892. Yeah, that is not at all Sports fandom he almost owned a slave. I mean this guy was way better. He probably did I Didn't add I don't know for will probably have to cut that out due to why why is us history? Why do we have to act like you know what always fascinated me? I never got this sketch on Chappelle's show, but I wrote this sketch for Dave. It's one of my favorite people in this business. There was this weird thing, you know, because I'm always watching this old footage on sports. They would tell the history of baseball separately. They would talk about in the 1950s, oh boy, oh boy, it was the golden age of baseball, you know. Willie Mickey and the Duke and I used to go to center field and whoopee doopee

there was there was Duke Schneider, right? Or whatever. And then they had the other side, Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier and it was super ugly and people throwing black cats on the field and saying all of this shit. But they told those two stories separately, you know what I mean? For some weird reason. So I wrote this sketch where Dave was watching like one of those Billy Crystal going to a Yankee game things and just fantasize, oh boy, oh boy, I wish I played

during the golden age of baseball. And then he went back and of course like it was like, and here we are, 1954, the golden age, love it. And then you come up to the place, get off the field you black bastard. And then, and there's the Mick, oh Mickey Man all, this, this, the duality of it struck me as funny. Never got it on though.

He would have killed that. He killed everything. Now, Billy Crystal, big Yankees guy, you ever meet him? I love Billy Crystal. And one of the things- City Slickers, I loved that movie. And I also, underrated movie was Mr. Saturday Night. Mr. Saturday, I didn't see it. I loved that movie, And I also underrated movie was Mr. Saturday Night. Mr. Saturday, I didn't see it.

I loved that movie and that movie very subtly is sort of a blueprint for a standup comedy career of some of the pitfalls that you can fall. And I haven't seen it in a while, but it's just like kind of getting carried away with your ego, dying on a hill, like the thing when he finally gets his show and in his head he's like don't say it, don't say it. I want to say what's with your fucking hair? Whatever he said and

then he gets fired. The self-sabotage, the... I haven't seen in a while but like you know, having you got the one, the girl, and then you're looking at other women, you've just fucked the whole thing up. It was really a, I love that movie. I love that movie. So, and then also, you know, I used to watch him with Robin and Whoopi,

the comic relief. I saw him all the way back on Soap, which you don't even remember, which was the late 70s. So I basically- Was it live? And then watched him hosting the Oscars and yeah it was a cool thing as a wannabe comedian and then becoming a comedian because they never gave comedies Oscars there was sort of like this subtle thing like okay so you actors are so goddamn great how come you can't host your show you need

you need a comedian and how many times he he did the great job that he did with it. So I was a huge fan. And then he did a show with Josh Gad that only went a season. And it's still like a phantom limb. I wanted to see how it played out. And it was like they were playing. He was playing this older entertainer, and he was this younger entertainer. For whatever reasons, their careers, like they were playing, he was playing this older entertainer and he was this younger entertainer.

For whatever reasons their careers were they were at, they needed each other. And I mean, maybe it was too inside baseball, but it was absolutely brilliant and they were so great. And it was, there's a few of those TV series that I watched. It was one on Showtime, The Brotherhood, and that thing was sort of loosely based on the Bulgers and That one went away now

You look at Billy Crystal and sorry I went off on a tangent I know you really needed to regroup there no I did I did but I was thinking I Completely didn't understand anything you just said, but... Yes, you did. Not really. Stop playing dumb. No. You're not a dumb guy.

I'm pretty dumb. Listen, being able to figure out where to sit down in a zone with 22 people fucking running around? That's different. That's different. What happened to you as a child that you can't take a compliment? That you have to sort of hide behind this pillow? My dad never gave me one.

Oh, oh, you had one of those? Oh, definitely. Did you have to walk behind the station wagon with your cleats over your shoulder crying? Suburban, but yeah, we had the old 91 bourbon. Everyone knew my dad. Yeah, they'd catch us. Yeah, you'd think you're something.

Why don't you have not? Literally, I used to get grounded if I did. You get out of my fucking car you piece of shit dude It was I had a crazy life like that where I would get grounded if I didn't go for four four in baseball basketball turnovers dad make me my dad heard a story that Remember white chocolate Jason Williams his dad tied his right hand To his behind his back and made him dribble with his left up and down the street My dad used to make me do that like my dad was psycho

You know, it's funny when I think about where were the moms during those errors. My mom was smoking cigarettes watching Just we're kind of trailer trash. Yeah, mine was inside base from Boston and I'm from California Even though you said I was from Kansas But you just sound like you're from Kansas and you're from California, even though you said I was from Kansas, but you just sound like you're from Kansas and you're doing dip. You picked up a lot of bad habits, the intellect, the dip. Definitely. What's up Kansas?

I'll be there in a week now. Okay. Actually bucket list. I want to go to Jayhawks basketball game. I somehow became a fan of this. Yeah. A long time ago at the, was it the field house? Yeah. How long time ago. Was it the Fieldhouse or whatever it is? Yeah, Allen Fieldhouse. Why do you love sports?

I still don't understand it. You know so much about this shit. Well, what else am I gonna do? Watch CNN and Fox News and watch those guys lie and then go do blow and fuck the same hookers after their show's done? Why would I sit there and watch that? So then I try to watch sports and I'm trying to get away from all of this shit that I'm

seeing and now they have a baseball. Stand up for cancer and everybody's crying about somebody who died from cancer and no one's saying, well, they turned our food supply into poison. They don't bring that part up. You just hold a sign that says Larry and you start crying and I'm trying to watch a fucking baseball game. If you're not gonna do anything about the food supply I don't want to see the people that you killed during a fucking game. So what's your Boston hierarchy of sports? Boston hierarchy well pick I'll'll give you my top five. Top five. And okay, you gotta go Bill Russell.

As far as the Celtics hierarchy, Bill Russell, that's the foundation. Probably Larry Bird in there. Listen, are you gonna let me answer or you just gonna do it? I'm just gonna. Probably Larry Bird, you probably lived in Southie and you stole cars and you were good at math. And you said, how do you like them apples? Huh?

Listen, I already, I already was judging you because you were from Kansas, but the fact that you're from California, you know, what's funny about Republicans is they, they love TV people. They will fucking, because I fuck did that come from? Cause I was just thinking like the other day, it's like they keep electing the host of a reality show TV star, right? They like the host of the apprentice.

They like Schwarzenegger movies. Reagan. No, and then watching like Trump, I don't know what he's doing. He's like talking about national security with Dr. Phil. You ever seen his ratings now? It's like Trump. This is a little more fucking important, and then he replaced a warmonger with dementia The joke I've been doing in my act is the last three presidential elections

We're picking presidents the way the Browns pick quarterbacks We got we're in this vortex. We got we got to get out of it. And fortunately, somebody comes along and wax a CEO and gives us a chance to breathe a little. So who's the Baker? What are we doing? Huh? Who's the Baker Mayfield of presidents in that? I love fucking Baker Mayfield. I do too. That's what I'm saying. You know what I love that the revolving door. I love Colin Cowherd has to stay up at night knowing he was wrong

and can't get himself to admit it. And his desk is just going to keep getting bigger. I still have to go to a physical therapist looking up at him during those interviews I did on his show. Oh my god, look at that. Would you look at that. Ty Detmer. I can't even.

Oh my god. They even drafted Cory Holcher. That's my boy, Carly Fry. Isn't Wynn from the Brady draft? Yes, Burgin Wynn. Brady Quinn, Jake DeLon... What? Not DeLon from the Panthers. Yeah.

They got rid of him? He was a fucking baller. I remember that. He almost beat us. Was not afraid of the Super Bowl even remote. Colt McCoy. Dude, they should get all of these guys together and sit around the biggest round table you could ever have, like a 47 person roundtable. And it's just called I was drafted number one by the Browns.

And you and you talk about all the success you had at all levels leading up to that. And then you went to the Browns and nobody blocked. Went to the Browns and nobody blocked and Now for the rest of your life you go into a dick sporting good and some man titted fat fuck gets to say you sucked like that's That's what you're signing up for Baker bank won a playoff game for them. Okay, so what what is my fascination with sport? It wasn't always It was all were in the hierarchy of Boston, but. Oh, okay, all right. Bill Russell.

Wait a second, stop throwing fucking Bird in there. Everybody's gonna say Bird. There's other, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, fucking Mark Wahlberg. I'm a Bill Burr guy, sorry. Joey Mack. All right, Bird, will that get you to stop? Will that get you to stop?

All right. Russell. You noticed my posture. I'm just going to be like laying flat by the end of this crying about my childhood. So Ernie came in here and talked for three hours and by the end he was like this sleeping. All right. Well, there's two different lists. There's the people that I liked and then the best ever.

Okay. Some of them are on the same list. So like the best ever you got to go bird. I mean Bill Russell bird I'm going like Celtics right now And that's it I'm kidding. I'm too old to remember anybody past the fucking 90s Then you got a Bobby or who even Wayne Gretzretzky said, that's the greatest of all time. Cam Neely. Cam Neely, you won 50 goals and I beat the fuck out of your team. You know, that guy. And he owned the Canadians. When we couldn't beat the Canadians, we were all, oh my God, we'll go into the form, we're going to lose. He would get a hat trick on

Patrick Waugh, who changed the game. Before we move on to Cam Neely, do you have a take on Ulf Samuelson? Do I have a take on him? Yeah. My only take on that guy is that whenever I hear Pittsburgh fans whining about what they did to Sidney Crosby in his career, it's like, you have Ulf Samuelson in your ring of honor. Thank you.

So, I mean, I don't, I mean, live by the sword, die by the sword. They also had Matt Cook. I mean, they just, they like guys like that unless they're coming at them. So, you know, I don't know, you know Whatever off did he had he had like a long career But I mean, I just don't I don't think like going at somebody's knees. I don't think that you know, okay So then what did what did that do for hockey that took Cam Neely away? And then you're left with Ulf Samuelsson. So like, I don't mind guys that played physical

and that type of thing, you know? These guys that were on the line, like Claude Lemieux. All right, that guy did a lot of dirty shit, but he could also, he could play the game. So it's, you know, I don't know. You know what? Fuck you for bringing his name up. All the fucking championships and shit.

He's from Western Mass and he's a his name up. All the fucking championships and shit. He's from Western Massachusetts. He's a fucking Pittsburgh fan. It's fucking stupid. Just penguins. Yeah, but Western Massachusetts, that's not even America. Forget about Massachusetts. That's just like people who can't find the Appalachian Trail.

Look at his beard. Do you think he has running water in his house? No. I don't either. And then as far as patriots, John Hannah, Andre Tippett. You got to go, Steve Grogan, one of the greatest, toughest fucking guys. Grogan?

Dude, Grogan played the last five years of his career wearing a neck brace. He looked like he just got into a car accident. And he played on AstroTurf. And he would hold that fucking ball until the camera would always go at the ball. You would just see him fly out of frame as the ball went like that way and he would just get up.

The guy just would get up. Yeah, he was. Oh my God, that naked bootleg on Monday night football, 50 yarders. Didn't see it. Fucking white guy giving us all hope. We can run. I could make it. Stanley Morgan, there it is, he wore it. First of all, he had the same genetics as Peyton Manning

where they just had extra neck, you know what I mean? Like usually the helmet fits the thing. I don't know what, I don't know what, you know. I don't think Peyton's that bright a guy. So he's always cheating on people, you know, the papers. I think that that's why it happened. I'm just fucking with I love Peyton, but the fucking guy I did his show and all he did was like he was like, remember when Eli did this.

It's like, yeah, I do. I don't remember when you did it. Yeah, he always does it. Oh my God, the cheatin ass Colts, the fucking cheatin ass Colts. Brilliant. Dude, you know what? I didn't realize how much I hated the Colts until I started doing a podcast with Gronk and seeing how much he hated the Colts. Dude, they are the biggest whining bitches that ever fucking it's AFC championship banner? Finalist. Runner up, finalist? That's what they have.

They have an AFC runner up championship banner. How about the fact their owners sat on the competition committee and made the way we were covering their receivers illegal and then they stole our offense and won a fucking Super Bowl and they didn't say anything, which I don't give a fuck. It's a dirty game, but don't go around weighing a football. I mean, give a fuck. It's a dirty game. But don't go around weighing a football. I mean, what the fuck?

Same amount of their footballs were underinflated. Underinflated. And he hired this guy who said he was a scientist who wasn't. How about the fact that? Oh my. I still fucking can't stand him right now. How about the fact that the owner of a losing team was allowed to conduct an independent investigation that was upheld

by the NFL. Roger Goodell, that appetizer eating fucking Fred Flintstone looking fat. I like Roger. Okay, I get it. You got to protect your connections. I'm not a fan. I like Roger. The first thing Roger Goodell needs to do is buy a suit that fucking fits. All right. He always looks like he just ate a bunch of potato skids and that big dumb Fred Flintstone head. He should have gone like, you're not conducting an independent investigation.

I do that. You're not going to be. Who the fuck are you? And he went like, oh yeah, this looks pretty good. Like, what the fuck? What was that? Quick question. Why do all comedians drink the liquid death?

Well, I initially got into this shit because rather than being a plastic bottle and I just... You know, you're so green friendly. I've felt that. You ask questions and then you fucking interrupt. I never even got through my list. Well, I just... I got random. I'm random. I got ADD, dog. So random. Okay, so hierarchy. He's wearing women's shoes and now he's explaining away his behavior with diagnosis.

Are you self diagnosed as ADD or? Don't know. Can I tell you something? You don't have ADD. Well, I actually do. You have childhood trauma. No, well. That if you actually sat still and you sat and thought about what a dick your dad was. That's me. My dad was a fucking loon I don't know what happened

to him with the old pipe smoker by the time I met him he was fucking 90 I don't know what he did when he's still when he's still his last couple years in the league when he was 40 I don't know what he did to my dad but you know we all paid for it so like I literally cannot fucking sit still in my own house I have to be doing I'm playing a guitar I'm over here I'm fucking making an egg I'm just like I'm all over the place I'm right there with you yeah but I was told in like fifth or like third grade the principal brought my parents into the the office and said yeah we recommend your your son Ritalin. My dad almost fought him.

That's a good dad. Because you ain't put my kid on medicine. Yeah, Frank. Oh, Frank. You know, came up with Ritalin teachers who couldn't control a classroom. So they just started drugging class clowns. And that's and that's the story that they don't want you to know. So Russell Bird. You can fact check that on the internet

where you can lie your ass off on your website. Grogan. Grogan. John Hannah. John Hannah. Mike Haynes. No Brady. Mike Haynes.

Haynes. Well, I'm still in Pat Patriot years. I mean, how many fucking people are on the hierarchy? Usually I'm out rush morning, got five. I'm sorry, did I get to you yet? No, I didn't rushing for a guy five. Oh, I'm sorry, did that get to you yet? No, I didn't wanna be on there. I'm gonna give, at the end of this podcast, I'm gonna give you the hug your dad never gave you.

I see him looking at me right now and really thinking about like, yeah, this kid's, he needs a hug. No. He needs a hug. Or maybe I'm just projecting. Maybe I'm hoping that I could get a hug. No, he needs a hug Or maybe i'm just projecting Maybe I i'm hoping that I could get a hug from the hands that caught that ball right off the turf Maybe that could have maybe you could hold me gently rock me before I go to my next dancing monkey gig that I have to do

You do don't you do do a lot of these dancing monkey gigs. I do, and this is probably the bottom of the list. Clearly not, because three weeks ago, Bill Burr actually showed up to the fucking house. I have him on my goddamn, my security camera. I clicked on the wrong address, and I fucking came to the house, and they were like, you're not here

for like another three weeks. And I was like, what the fuck? I mean, that is my day. Every fucking day, like I just wake up and I gotta start moving forward to get the demons behind me. It's like all the smoke. I gotta stay ahead of the smoke.

So I clicked on the wrong day and I ended up out here. How far away was where you're supposed to be? Other side of the, you know, over there. The D. Yeah, you know, it was what it was. And then I got there and it didn't matter you know what I mean I was like all stressed out they're like nah it's fine it's fine it's like so what are these times just arbitrary like you

know ten o'clock oh whenever you want to get here like I don't like being late you weren't you he was actually you were ten minutes early here. Yeah, well I had to eat my avocado. He had to eat the avocado. Okay, so we have the hierarchy of athletes. What's the hierarchy? I know, we never even got through it. Keep going. All right, so then I get to you guys, all right. Ben Coates, I love a type.

Russ Francis, I forgot Russ Francis. Coates was fucking good. Steve Nelson. Bill Enquitis. Leon Gray. Raymond Claibororne Tim Fox, Ohio State. Oh my god. That guy used to fucking hit people Sam Cunningham. Come on Stanley Morgan I said him. Yeah, you said okay now we're in a Drew Bledsoe Ben Coats Curtis Martin Bledsoe you loved Bledsoe. Everyone loved Bledsoe. Yep. Teddy Bru- Dude, he made us legit. Teddy Brueski. Willie McGinnis. Willie Mack. Love him, Willie Mack.

Yeah. I mean, all of the fucking guys. All of the guys. All of the fucking guys. Now, what about your sports? How does your fandom in sports go? And then I can only pick one white wide receiver so I'll go with Wes Welker. Standard, standard. I mean we all can't be winners. No, Julian Edelman, you're on the list buddy. Thanks bud. I didn't forget about you.

I can't. I don't care how much you ever fail me. I'll never make you get out of the car Did have to walk home from a practice once because of that There you go. You know, it's funny, you know, what's funny about being brought up like that is Then your idea of what being good and normal is just you know A little east of how you grew up and you don't realize until you meet somebody, hopefully, that grew up in a good family. Like I remember one of my brothers, right,

got into it with a girlfriend and he was going off on her and she goes, stop yelling at me and he goes, I'm not yelling, that's yelling. That's what he did and she had never heard that. I hear that all the time that I yell. I don't think, I agree with that. I'm not yelling. I just speak loud My problem is is when someone is taking advantage of me I have an inability to express my feelings without using the f-word

Like God help me if if when you die God's gonna judge you and he starts bringing up my stuff I mean, I'm gonna be I'm be what the come here You gotta give me a fucking break. I was fine I immediately would start talking like that back to do a corner. I go f-word some people start swinging I don't I go I go f-word f-bombs f-bombs like I sit there and like in my like when I Because I know I'm crazy like if I have to have a confrontation with somebody I Am outside in my backyard walking around whispering what I want to say

And then I get all wound up and then I'm whispering for me. Okay, it's just something I want to talk to you about I'm not saying you're a bad guy, but you know and then like five minutes later I mean, you know, dude, what the fuck you can't fucking say that you didn't fucking know that you were fucking duck I can't bring it back down. Okay, and I just like I. And I'll do that for like 40 minutes. And I don't. How many people are in your head? Is there like a couple? Oh wow, that's a great question.

Are you gonna let me finish this list or are you gonna fucking? I don't know. Um. Pfft. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Okay, there's the, what did I used to say? I don't fucking care, I don't give a fuck.

There's that kid. There's the belief guy. He's way back in the head. Way back in the head. And he kinda does that. Yeah, I don't give a fuck, I don't care. There's that guy, and that's all from like when shit was happening to me.

It was the only way you could deal with it. I don't give a fuck, I don't care. There's low self-esteem guy. There's delusional guy. There's a lot in there, there's a lot in there. It's definitely a full-size car. Yeah, I can see it. Maybe an SUV.

There's a lot of people in there. But the one that is the belief guy was the one that I would always go to because I had to. Because I had not because other than that, it was bleak. Well, Jesus, that was sad. Very sad. No. You could not have been more emotionless. That was sad. Very sad. Very sad. All right.

Well, I felt like we were right at the end of the therapy session. All right. I need to make more money. So you get the fuck out of here. Try not to make eye contact with the person in the waiting room. Is there anything worse than the overlap? You know, when you go long and then you see the next person and then they see you like, Oh yeah, you're fucked up too, huh? You know what's funny about your lack of emotion? It pairs well with your eyes. Are you looking deep into my eyes right now? Something about you have like husky eyes. Like that's the one dog you don't know what the fuck it's thinking because the eyes are like mirrors. Like is it going to pull the sled or is it going to use me as a food source like that's how I feel I like we just just wait you're looking deep into my

eyes I like that listen you can try to make this gay as you want while you wear those things I don't I don't give a shit I'm just letting you know I have no idea what you're thinking on a scale of one to gay, what is it? What is what? Where are we going? Your eyes, your sneakers? Can we get back to the soccer mom sweatpants? What can you transitioning? We're transitioning. We got to transition 50 in the books.

We got to get we got to get in. Bill. Are they starting some women's football league you want to dominate? Fastest growing women's sports. Joel, why did you cut your dick off? Fastest growing women's sport. I couldn't shut it off, man. Women's flag football in the Olympics.

Fastest growing sport for women right now. Yeah, I am a fan of women's sports and you know what? Women need to be fans too. You know, and stop bitching at us because we're not watching it. I'm a fan of women's sports and you know what? Women need to be fans too. And stop bitching at us because we're not watching it. You need to go out and support women, okay? Stop fucking just putting your hands up at a Beyonce concert and thinking that's all you have to do with your life.

You have a lot more supporting to do. God. Amen. So. Dude, I am fucking killing on this part. I hope you appreciate this. I'm fucking killing. So. Dude, I'm fucking killing on this part. I hope you appreciate this. I'm fucking killing. 1000%.

We. Well, I just got so much material sitting next to you. I like your old man walking in the mall socks. Got it. I bought those off Amazon. Those are Dickie socks. There's two times in your life your doctor tells you to go for a walk. The first time you become a fat fuck and he tells you to take up golf.

Then all these fat fucks go there. What's the first thing they do? They get a cart, right? And then they just drive around in the knife hole. They load up on calories. And if you don't drop of a heart attack, fall out of the cart at some point, you live longer, then they tell you to walk in these abandoned malls. And then from your calves down, you have the exact fucking footwear. The only thing you need is the velcro strap

Velcro I yeah, and then what one of them like it has to be bigger than the other like one of your legs is retaining fluid Those compression socks Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thoughts on the current state of the Patriots right now, Bill? Can I call you Bill or is it Will? Yeah, no, it's fine.

Why would you call me Will? At what point did you? I don't know. I call Bill Belichick Will. Oh, you do? No. No? No. Did you ever get No. No? No.

Did you ever get inside that head? Never. Never. He doesn't let anyone in there. Well, he's the modern day Paul Brown. Did you ever read on what Paul Brown did? Yeah, he started the Browns and then he went down to Cincinnati.

In other words, you didn't. No. No. If he could read, he would though. If I could read. Paul Brown was in the league. It was called like the called like the somebody the AAFL some fucking thing like that. It was they went three years The Cleveland Browns with Otto Graham the first Tom Brady, right fucking wins They won the championship all three years

Then he goes into the NFL in 1950 and the NFL was laughing at them saying they're not gonna do shit And he ends up going to the championship game like four Years in a row and wins one either two or three of them then Bobby Lane came with the Lions So one of the things that they did with him is they tried to figure out how is this guy winning so many games? And what it was Was he was the first guy that took the kicking aspect of the game seriously and And he had a field goal kicker. What the fuck was it? It was an offensive lineman of course. And he was kicking straight on. What's. Yeah. What was his name? Yeah. And this guy was lights out.

Lou Groza Lou, the toe Groza. There you go. So, and they were winning all of these games by three points and two points and everything. So he was the guy that it was, it was him realizing that that was important and that could be a competitive advantage That oh my god. How do I leave off Adam Vinatieri? Oh He is he is he in the Hall of Fame yet have they put This year fucking ridiculous. Okay, that guy is first ballot. No question Hall of Famer Adam Vinatieri Apologies, he probably shut this podcast off. Nah. Walking around. They're never gonna, they're never gonna acknowledge us kickers. Is that how

kickers sound? I was a Guskowski guy. Who's that? Oh, is that the guy who was kind of fat? That was our kicker for our, my whole career. That- Oh, Staniskowski. No, Guskowski. Steve Guskowski. Oh, I thought you said Guskowski. No. No, I. No Do I listen you get to a certain age? You can't remember kickers names? I'm at that age. I get it I Can't remember a lot of you know, I liked with a doll member Reggie Roby now for the Dolphins Oh my god, who was the guy that had the block foot? My dad always talked about him. Dempsey Dempsey Yeah Blockfoot my dad always talked about him Dempsey Dempsey. Yeah Yeah

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Yeah, when I think. Well, let's work on that. You're intimidating. No, let's work on that. Let's work on that. You have some nice blue eyes, too. Stare into my eyes and explain the four minute offense. You should have called my bluff

because I wouldn't be able to handle that. Because when he looks at you long enough, you can smell the mint of his fucking true It's hairy gants gold bandit Copenhagen Copenhagen. I don't go do you know bad? I want to try that but I know I shouldn't he shouldn't Yeah, throw up right away. We talking about you can handle it. I like that reverse psychology No, you I'm telling you dude. You know what you guys you can't you can't do it Just at the end of this podcast smash cut to me puking in his backyard and then just got told you do what I told So can we hold on did you Paul Brown we were talking about Paul Brown

No, we got past that we got past Well, that's where you stop listening Started the Cincinnati Bengals. Yes, okay. And the Browns. Okay, and what came out of that? What came out of that? What?

The West Coast offense. Yeah, with Bill Walsh. It's the Midwest offense. Yeah, and because they had that quarterback with that unbelievable arm and then he got hurt. Because I think it was a rotator cuff and they didn't know how to deal with that back then. So then they had to do the short quick passes.

That, yeah. Yeah, they replaced the run with short pass. Yeah, because the quarterback blew out of his arm. That was it? That's what it was. Bill Walsh, to his dying day, said, whoever the fuck that guy was, was the greatest talent he ever saw at quarterback.

Yeah. And that might, I don't know if that was a dig with him and Montan, I don't know what, but that's what he said. And then he was next in line when Paul Brown stepped down, but Paul Brown, I don't know, for whatever reason, thought that Bill Walsh had some mental issues. And not only did he pass over him,

he sort of mother fucked him around the league. Yeah. So then he went to San Diego, became like a receiver as a quarterbackbacks coach, then went to Stanford, rebuilt his career, and ironically enough, 81 plays the Bengals in the Super Bowl. And they said, is this anything extra special because it's the Bengals?

And he said no, and the first play they called was some classic razzle dazzle Paul Brown shit from the 1950s, that was his fuck you to him. And then he won it. How fucking I just that's that's one of my favorite ones as far as, you know, people not believing in you and then coming back and rubbing their nose in it. Yeah. I crazy. No, no, because I just thought about when I was a kid, you guys,

I want you guys to do a compilation of his underwhelmed responses. Yeah, no. Cool. I thought about it. You had an astronaut on here yet talking about walking on the moon? We actually had a rocket scientist, Maddie Patricia. No, I was thinking about Bill Walsh.

I actually, when I was a kid, because I grew up in the Bay Area, I was rehabbing my back I broke my back in high school from overuse stress fracture And I was rehabbing and your dad. Okay, go ahead Well, that's 300 cuts a night and then you've taken 300 batting practice swings a night and wear out Jesus you ever read Andre Agassi's book? No. Open? Dude, forget about a sports book. I can't read.

You can read. Not really. Sit in the backyard, get yourself some dip, right? You can listen to it. That's what I do. You know what they have now for adults? They have people that read you a story. It is.

Once upon a time my name was Andre Agassi. The amazing thing about that guy is he didn't even wanna play tennis. His dad decided he was gonna be a tennis player. And not only does he become a professional tennis player, he becomes one of the greats of all time and one of a handful of people to win on all three surfaces. Clay the grass and the parking lot, right? And it's one of the most incredible books I read because

it's like uh you know open championships and then also he's like totally just saying he's that you just don't feel like there's one lie in the book it's amazing that and and uh Steve Gorman's book about being the drummer in the black crows you get like three pages into that book you're like this band's not getting back together yeah Yeah I gotta check that out. I've watched some shit on Andre Agassi. He had that he was all on like drugs and shit too right? Wasn't he like a he got it into like crack. I don't know remember that part of the book. I'm pretty sure. I just remember as a bald guy when he started. But he had great hair at the start and then he went bald. He went bald early. Yeah but he had long hair. Yeah but he was like super hairy. Yeah. He was like super hairy so you know

the super hairy guys. That's why you like him bald guy bald guy. No so he was saying he had a piece he was wearing a piece and he was playing in this big match and he was sweating so much he was worried it was gonna come off and it fucked him up. He just talks he was sweating so much, he was worried it was gonna come off and it fucked him up. He just talks about everything. Mentally. He was on TV wearing a fucking toupee

with the most epic mullet anybody had ever seen and all these chicks loved him. And so much of his brand at that point was, cause he, I think early on in his career, he was like the sex symbol, all the ones that the chicks liked, but he hadn't won anything big yet. So that was all the, you know, the man tit guys

were giving him shit about that. So if that thing came, oh my God, I mean, he never would have like, first of all, that would have been all the sponsorship. Gone. I mean, I wonder if you can recover from that. Yeah, you can. I think that just, because you're bald,

you're probably insecure about the baldness. No, not, no, no, once you shave your head, you don I think that just because you're bald you you're probably insecure about dude, okay No, not no. No, once you shave your head. You don't give a fuck. You know, what's great about this haircut I'm always ready to go always always I gotta just throw a shirt on people think I took a shower I haven't showered in weeks. Do you shine it? Huh? How come it's so shiny? Do you put a lotion on there super white because I have superior jeans Like how often do you shave it? When I said that I go this is gonna go one of two ways. They're gonna laugh at that joke or get really silent like oh Jesus bill you really are from Massachusetts. Because LA is so open minded. I love how they have like this vibe like they're fucking open minded.

Every time the Lakers win a championship within two minutes a police car is overturned And on fire what is that an expression of? Open-minded how happy non-white people are in this city all right? Cool go ahead awesome Bella check at UNC what are our thoughts on that I mean, I don't I might I I Like that he's back coaching coaching but I'm also I'm sort of more fascinated with this move that college football is doing like how

much is the NFL freaking out about a football March Madness at the end of their NFL schedule? I mean who the fuck is excited about week 17 18 when I can watch the first time ever what is it it, eight teams are gonna go, it's gonna be insane. And now I can watch guilt free because they're getting paid. I don't have to sit there and think, oh, you know, there's some booster

making all of this money, he's got a yacht, you know, and some blow and all of this. And I got my, like that Willis McGahey hits, one of the hardest plays I've ever seen to watch as far as, first grotesque and then also like the kid made no money. How about his agent, huh? On the phone with him.

Good for him, good for him. So I'm more fascinated with that. And then, okay, so now you've got this guy that was what, 40 years in the NFL and now he's coming down there and I think I'm crazy. I think a lot of college coaches have haven't had to deal with players getting paid on like a lot of some of them coached the NFL went up to NFL came back down or whatever But I think he's sort of built

more for this and then time but then I'm wondering if he's gonna do that second round draft pick thing that he did or if he's gonna take the blue chip guy you know you know it's gonna be interesting because I've thought about this you look at free agency in the NFL that's now transfer portal you look at the draft that's high school but the draft you that's high school. But the draft, you have to draft guys in height, like recruiting a guy in high school, you get full rein.

So him being able to scout guys for his scheme at an endless supply, it's really coming down to money now. And it's just about how you're gonna handle your roster of money, I think he's going to do pretty good. It's pro football. It's literally pro football now. Right. I'm going to go on a limb and say UNC is never one of a college football championship. They've always been a basketball.

They've had Lawrence Taylor, they've had some stars, Julius Peppers, Mac Brown coach. That was not the question, Western Mass. Come on, West Mass. Get your shit right. Jesus Christ. Fuck. We're coming to the end here. I'm just fucking with you dude. It's okay. The fact that you came at me so nice, like why would you do that? Now I feel bad that I said that. All right. When we built the show I was like man Bill Burr could be the show. Yeah but we wanted Bill Burr on the show. Jules is usually better at being an agent. Well, that's why I showed up a month early. Valentine.

I heard the buzz around Hollywood. We wanted you, man. You know what? Bill Burr already has a podcast. You know we should pitch him? Another podcast. Another podcast. Another one.

We launched the second one with Jules and Gronk. I love that one. You like it? I love that one. It's fun. I just like hearing you guys like, I don't know. You like it? I love that one. It's fun. I just like hearing you guys Like I don't know talk. Yeah, I know but like some of the shit that like that comes out About guys you didn't want to play against what you were going through during the game or just all of that stuff

It's it's I think that's why I love the Mannings Just it's so funny to just see them now as fans watching the game, but like the psycho level that they're watching it on is, I don't know, that's what was always like the magic in the broadcast booth. You had a guy who went to journalism, had a command of the English language, and then you'd bring in a former player and he could add like... Color. Yes, that used to work. Now where do we go?

Bull Belichick, we didn't. Oh, we didn't finish that. We haven't finished like maybe 80% of our questions. I also invested in this company. Full disclosure. Full disclosure. I invested in this company. Yeah, water wars here.

Oh, you did? This water wars, bubs. Oh yeah? This bad boy right here is 9.5. All right here is nine years in a warehouse did that one sit versus fresh water right from my tap with a filter I'm sorry I mean mountain water what is what is your mine claims mountain water what is your claim alkaline enhanced water what does that even mean it It balances your pH. What do you get, your period? No, but for your inflammation.

Why, no, well, you just lay off sugar. Or you just drink my water. Listen, I'm gonna stare deep into your husky eyes right now. And I'm gonna say that I have, there's a 60% part of me thinks alkaline, it doesn't even exist. Same. Honestly, I think. It's like, didn't they say with like

electrolytes? Like that's not even a thing. That's just like a word. No, all electrolytes are salt. So what you do is when you have an electrolyte, when you put electrolytes in your water, you're putting salt in your water so your body absorbs the water and you don't piss it out. So that's how your body holds the water. And I'll tell you why I believe that. Because alkaline, you were holding tension. And then when I brought up electrolytes you relaxed into the couch. I'm like now. Now I know. Well I know because Brady always put the fucking electrolytes in his water and had to do that whole thing Okay, isn't that Gatorade? Did you know that's sugar and water so what did he have his own Gatorade? He had drops that he would put in his water that were just salt water drops

That's hilarious literally any time you open the water You would sit and watch him put 30 drops of the every anytime You know what? It's it's like funny now that someone took it to that level, but I guarantee you like everybody That that's gonna be like normal now like oh it is like everybody is gonna be it's a thing now now There's like July or and people are gonna play into their well into their 40s. You think no no like him You gotta be touched by God play into their well into their 40s you think? No, no like him. You gotta be touched by God.

Yeah, I don't, yeah. That's like 45, not well into, like that's insane. And he's fucked it up for everyone because now everyone thinks quarterbacks can play that long. Like we look at Kurt Cousins who toured Achilles at like 35 and we think this guy, we're gonna pay him $180 million. Who the Achilles injury used to, that was the end of your career. Now look, I remember when,

when Kobe rest his soul, when he blew out his Achilles, I was like, oh, you know, this, this, that, you know, don't have it end like that. You know what I mean? That's the worst, right? And whatever the hell he did, he went to Germany, they spun his blood. Now they do that over here,

it's spinning in the blood, I don't know what it is. And he came back and he's still old, but he was still, he never played at a level that was embarrassing. He was great for the rest of his career. I think Dan Marino. Yeah. Dan Marino, he had an Achilles issue.

What was that? Early 90s, I believe. Look at that, I'm in full circle. Yeah. This is what happens with two traumatic children. It's after a while, neither one's looking at each other. Just sort of self-soothing, rubbing your head, just staring into the honeycomb wood, being like,

I wonder why you decided to do that. Was that just to break up the the pattern or does that make it sound better in here cool before we move on from from Bill Belichick we found out through bond John Bon Jovi that Bill Belichick's an avid drummer did you know that no he's a huge drummer drummers like toward with Bon Jovi in the offseason that's amazing you think you and Belichick could do a duet drumming thing together a duet I'm usually a drum off usually compete or drum off with that do wet you got to be really good because you got to be

playing the exec yeah that would be fascinating to watch him play drums. That'd be fascinating to watch him play drums. It'd be funny if he just let it all go. It was like making like a stank face and all of a sudden, oh my God, there's a personality in there. Yeah. I'm just picturing him like, yeah, you know, it was a seven, eight time on the verse and then we went to the chorus.

It's a basic rock track. Bill, what do you think about the next song you're about to play? Well, you know, we're onto it. It's like this song, you know? It's another song, and this one's a couple seconds shorter, but we're still gonna give it just as much as we did on the previous song.

Right. People never understood that he knew, I'm not giving you any bulletin board material. Like, that's what he was doing. So then the sports writers would attack him for having no personality and all of that crap. And it's just like, no, he's making your job difficult. You have to work.

And then they love the guy like Rex Ryan, like, I'm not going up there to kiss their rings. Doing that dumb shit. You know what he did? The article just wrote itself. So we would literally, we would have a guy, we had a guy came in every year to teach us on how to handle the media and deflect.

It was the guy who had to handle all the questions after 9-11 for the fucking White House. He would come in and teach us on how to deflect. That must have been the quickest job interview ever. What's your background on this? 9-11, all right. Tell everybody out there to go home. There must have been the quickest job interview ever. What's your background on this? 9-11. All right.

Tell everybody out there to go home. We got our guy. I think he was a Navy Admiral. I forgot his name and I know him. I feel bad. But yeah, so we would have this guy come teach us. And it's pretty crazy if you listen to when coaches and players talk to the media. They'll literally give you game plans.

Like when a coach says, you know, coach, what do you got to do this week to win the game? Well, you know, we got to run the football and we got to do good. So you know that they're going to be trying to emphasize. I always just thought that that has to be a misdirection. Like they got to be saying they could. But a lot of the times they do what they say. And Bill was always like, I'm not saying anything to give them anything.

So that's why it came off him. Why didn't he just say that to him? Like, listen, I'm not this monotone. I just know what you guys are doing and you're gonna give the other team a competitive advantage. With injuries, all that. Yeah.

Why would we have to give a, like, why would he ever talk about an injury? Why would you give a timeline on an injury? That's why whenever we had an injury, he'd always say, just worry about what you got to do to get that done. Because you go out there and you say, oh, we're back in four weeks after you sprained an ankle,

and then it takes five weeks. And you're getting more questions, well, was there a setback? Or if you come back early, you know, when you give a timeline, it fucks everything up. So that's why he was- Oh, you're gonna get hammered with questions. Hammered, more.

So that's why you always were coy whenever it came to- Yeah, they're not your friends. No, no. That's... But I've always loved how they get upset though if you're not like an open book to them. And when they just, it's like, well, you guys are constantly fucking people over.

You're constantly trying to cause controversy where it isn't even there. Like the local sports media, like in New York and Boston, I don't read it out here, but like I was, you would read the articles. It's like, are you for or against our teams here? Like in New York, like New York York, like, they were questioning Eli after he beat us twice.

Like, what more does this guy have to do? Coughlin was on the hot seat each year he fucking won the Super Bowl. That's the reason they are in the situation they're in right now is cause they let that guy go. I think. I think he's still, he's dead now. No, didn't he go down to Jacksonville? Yeah, but he was old. They had to let him go. I think. I think he's still he's dead now. No, he's didn't go down to Jacksonville. Yeah, but he's he was old. They had to let him go. All right. Well,

there goes my theory. Jack, let's power through this. Let's get into the game. Get into these dolphins. We're going into the game. Yeah, we'll do it real quick. How fucking long is this podcast? We're quick, quick, quick, quick. Dolphins are coming off a beat down to the Niners in Super Bowl XIX, XII and XIV. This is Don Shula, Dan Marino, Dwight Stevenson, some hall of favors on this team. Dan Marino's coming off his incredible MVP season. Arguably the greatest season statistically,

if you see how the game was played, that he had 48 touchdowns, and the way that you could manhandle receivers and the quarterbacks and all of that, and the fact that you could manhandle receivers and the quarterbacks and all of that and the fact that he put those numbers up and they lasted from 84 I want to say till Drew Brees in like 2010 so it lasted for almost 30 years that season it was like a literally like Wayne Gretzky numbers. Yeah, but I also have a take on those elite seasons of the past, like the Bear.

They had like 270 pound linebackers. When you throw four receivers on the field, those guys can't cover space. So like these new age offenses, like the run and shoot that Dan Reno used to run, the West Coast. Wait, wait, who had 270 pound linebackers? Well, just in general, the linebacker in the NFL.

Linebackers were like 250. Yeah, they were huge though. I'm just saying they're 220 now. The defensive linemen were like 270. I looked at the back of my football cards. You just played the game. I had football cards. And then the big thing this season

was the refrigerator Perry. You know how much he weighed? 305 pounds. Yeah. Now they have entire like lines that weigh like that. But those the the linebackers of this generation and the D linemen they weren't space guys. They were there to stop the run. The 46 the Bear. That was all linebackers and linemen. You do that to a league, a team now, they're just going to spread you out and shred you. And a lot of these teams like the Dolphins and the Niners of the past, they had these quick hitting throws, which were almost, they were designed to beat these big teams. You know, so like you had an edge on these guys because these guys couldn't cover.

They were too innovative with these offenses. So when you have a guy like what? Great point. Yeah. Okay, first of all, nobody figured that out. These guys did it. These guys exposed them. Well, they did.

Belichick created the nickel defense because of it. He was the first one to take a linebacker out and bring a third corner in. I understand that. Did Don Shula figured that out? He was the first one to take a linebacker out and bring a third corner in in in in I understand that did Don Schula figured that out Did Don Schula have five white guys back there to try and like what I'm saying is I'm trying to talk about this game Okay, let's hear it and I understand that because you played in a different era. I'm getting into your feelings No, I also know it has nothing to do with the game. It has more to do with you and your father No, I mean I'm not gonna debate you on this you're a professional football player

But it's just like I would just say as a fan for some reason the first fucking I don't know how many weeks Everybody was getting fucking raped by this team and he came in and he wasn't dinking and dunking down the field He was throwing he was fucking unloading on these people. And like I said, when you look at their defense, look at the fucking names on this roster. I'm not shitting on these guys, but this is not like, oh my god, they had this guy, they had that guy, they had that guy.

Their whole team was basically, the Dolphins I'm saying, was Marino, Clayton, and Duper. And they just, I don't know, they were like unstoppable against this defense that allegedly nobody could beat. So I don't know. And then the fact also that he saved the undefeated, you know, their undefeated season. I'll tell you what sucks is the AFC championship game

that year was the Patriots versus the Dolphins. We go down to the Orange Bowl, we had one there and forever. And it's the worst thing ever is we beat him. It was great, he's a Patriots fan. It led to the worst Super Bowl ever. And it could have been the rematch. It could have been the rematch.

And I gotta tell you, oh my God, if Dan Marino goes in and he beats him again, he beats him again. He beats this fucking unbeatable thing twice. I mean, I don't know. It's just, there's a couple, I call those the greatest games that never happened. Yeah, we covered that game with Gary Goldman. It was awesome. Oh, the Orange Beach Championship game?

Oh, and Brian Holloway, brick by brick, crying afterwards. I went to the airport after both those games when we beat the Raiders and went down to Providence. You want to talk pre-911. Bunch of drunk Patriots fans on the tarmac. We just opened a door, we were standing. And you remember those things with the pickup trucks with the stairs would drive up to the plane? We had commandeered one of those.

I didn't get on it, but there was people who had gone all the way up on the top of it. It was a fucking shit show. And these guys had to, there was no security. They had to walk through all the fans. I still remember Julius Adams, rest his soul, came walking by and he had this brown leather jacket on. Somebody behind me went bam bam bam on his shoulder just after he played football and he turned around and gave me a death stare. I was like, who's that guy? And we went down there after the Raiders game there was probably a couple hundred people after the Dolphins game dude. There was like

a thousand people in I'm sure they've read on the airport's Providence. They fly into Providence. Yeah. Yeah. We still do. Yeah. And they do. We were on, we were on the fucking plane was pulling in and we had to like clear out like it was the end of some cartoon or something You know those are some of the coolest things when the fans would do that like when we come home after We came home after beating the Kansas City Chiefs in 18 We get back at like 3 in the morning 4 in the morning because you leave right after the game, right? When we got there there was probably 10,000 fans just chill and you can't do it Like you said in the tar mat

and everything, but they would chill outside the gate and that's like the coolest thing. Oh yeah. When the fucking, you know, the community's out there four in the morning, fucking going to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I remember seeing Tony Easton. I got to shake him, man. He had a members only jacket, which was the shit in 85. Still, he came back. They're back. They're back.

Yeah, no, they are. I hate when shit's like in style and everybody wants it. And then the second is out of style. Everybody acted like they didn't want it or they didn't have one of those things. I don't know why. Skinny jeans. Skinny jeans out? They're out. They're back to 90s, like baggier jeans. Baggier. I go mid. Yeah, you can never go wrong.

Yeah, mid. Timeless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Timeless. You know what I mean? Let's go through these bears real quick. Don't choke me out, but support it. Yeah, no, yeah. Got to. Got to have a little runway. Little lift.

Little lift. Can't be all tightened in there. Yeah, as you get older, your balls start hanging in the toilet water. You can't have that. Yeah. Like that's why that whole- Shroud them. It gets a lot lot longer speaking of the long ball Dan Marina

was Aaron it out this game segue of the year baby oh man tossing it all over the yard the four six defense didn't matter the three four didn't matter Dan came out was bombing them that more we talked talked about Mark Duper, all those guys putting up the first touchdown on this vaunted Bears defense in 13 quarters right out of the gate 31 10 at the half. They kept it rolling 38 24. Look at that he only threw for 245 yards. That's crazy. Yeah that's all he threw for. There was still a great and you got it also if you look at the the Bears I mean just littered with Hall of Famers. OJ Simpson was on there. Mike Singletown. No. He was on the broadcast. Oh OJ was on the broadcast. I remember that

year they had and then they had Joe Namath. Joe Namath and OJ and OJ used to always be see what I would do right there I would have cut it back he's always say what the running back did wrong. And then I just remember Joe Namath who was, that was a good play. Just the way he always said, that was a really good play. He had a thing, he always played. That was like, that was like the buzzword. It sounds like him.

Really? Oh, I love those guys, man. This game made us think of when they had Dennis Miller be on Monday Night Football and how Dennis Miller. The idea of that I think was great. It was way ahead of its time and I don't think Dennis Miller was the right person. It was like the first podcasting vibe.

Yeah. Like way back, way back in the day. You know what somebody was bringing up is how, remember the NHL had that stupid trail behind the puck that one year? And they go, as much as everybody made fun of that, like the amount of graphics that is now like on the screen, you don't notice it. But I would say I don't think anybody ever topped the flames coming out the back of the puck. I liked it. 96 and

Fox. They should bring it back. I can never see the puck on TV. My favorite argument to that was one of the NHL players goes, I mean, it's literally a black object against a white surface. I don't try to just start with just start watching the player everybody seems to be paying attention to. There's a good chance he has the puck. I never had a problem following the puck. And I used to watch it on that little square TV.

Stan Jonathan, honorable mention. If we're gonna say like the tough guys that kept the finesse players safe, I would say Terry O'Reilly, Stan Jonathan, Jay Miller, Lyndon Byers. That was my whole era. It was the end of Wayne Cashman in, I don't know, Wayne Cashman and Terry O'Reilly

towards the end of their thing into those Cam Neely era, Ray Bork and all of that. And that was my favorite ever. Going to see hockey in the Boston Garden and they had all these great, the old arenas, those basketball and hockey arenas, you were like on top of the game. But I found out now, obviously with luxury boxes,

it makes them bigger, but the upper decks, they can't have that steep a grade anymore because it's too dangerous, because people are too fucking fat. It's just like, decks, they can't have that steeper grade anymore because it's too dangerous, because people are too fucking fat. It's just like, well, why don't you- Or drunk. Get people in shape. Yeah, I mean-

Or drunk. I got one. Do you guys ever see that guy at the Reds game? That fucking guy is yoked and he reaches for a foul ball in the upper deck and he goes all the way over and with one arm, like hung on- I do remember that.

Remember that? Oh my God. He would have died and he would have fucking broke the back of whoever he landed on. That would have been, I wonder how many deaths have been in the stadiums of like that. Somebody fell off the back of the Patriot Stadium

and died, Monday Night Football, before they had the fence up there. He fucking fell off the back. There he is, look at that guy. back of the Patriot Stadium and died Monday night football before they had the fence up there. He fucking fell off the back. There he is. Look at that guy. If you see the video, he is like in such like 80s shape, like his torso. I mean, he could have fought like a bear.

What a guy. Let's name the game. All right. What do you think this is? I've had a great time by the way. Are you? Yeah, no, I'm having a great time. I'm just doing what I do.

I'm just being a dick. Well, I like it. You like it? Okay, cool. All right. Name the game. Miami on a Monday, Monday night in Miami, the greatest Monday night game, Monday night, Marino,

Marino torches the Bears, Dan dismantles the Bears, Dan and Duper dismantled the Bears. Or do you have a name? Monday Night Marino. That kind of flows. Monday Night Marino. Dan destroys the Bears. All right, let's score the game.

Yeah, Monday Night Marino. Like that. Score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Stakes, zero to 10 decimals okay, Bill. The stakes of this game. Week 14, 85 bears, undefeated. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you.

I picked a, you know, kind of went with the Jaguar of... This is actually a really good game. I love this bit. It's a fucking great game. And this is a great stake because this is the undefeated franchise that's playing the team that could potentially the undefeated franchise that's playing the team that could potentially go undefeated.

I get it. You guys want to go hot topic. I picked an indie band here. So I would say is the stakes as far as Dan Marino's legacy and me being able to shut down everybody in a sports bar, I give it a 10. But as far as overall, in the pantheon of greatest games of all time, the fact that it's not even a playoff game, playoffs. I would say three.

Three? Okay. Well, because the man score. No, we love that you picked this game. We love when people show up with real games. We love that. Oh, you did? Well, you guys have been shitting on it.

Well, Jules just can't ask a question. Yeah. Listen, Jules has been through a lot. ADD has gotten me today. I say it every time I have like a comedian or an actor on here. There's a sadness to him behind those husky eyes. I've been here for 10 years, Bill, I know.

There is. There is a sadness. You know something? I like breaking people's balls, but if they have that look on, like I saw the pain on your face, I just, I can't do it. And then you did it to me and it just makes me feel,

you know who used to do that? Bob Saget. Rest his soul. RIP. I looked at his house. Bob would like die laughing, everything you said, but every once in a while you'd do a joke and he would just, he would go.

And it wasn't that you hurt him, it was that he was disappointed in you. And I remember when I did his podcast, I asked him if he dyed his hair with just for almost men. And he made that sad face because the whole podcast, he was trying to get me to open up and he was trying to be nice and loving because that's what he was.

And it bothers me that I didn't let him do it, but I was having so much, and I think that that was when he finally gave up and just realized that was too damaged. And I remember I texted him, I said, hey man, thanks again, I had a great time. And he goes, did you? I still can't believe he's gone, man.

I loved him so much. He was the best. He would have been a great guest. Instead you ended up with me. Wouldn't have it any other way. I'm gonna go with five. Jack 7-8, I had seven-one. Star power of this game. A lot of Hall of Famers. Oh star power of this game, 10. 10. Come on, Walter Payton, all-time rushing leader at the time. Ditka. Dan Marino.

Ditka. Don Shula. Richard Dent. Mike Singletary. Gary Fensick. Buddy Ryan. Rivera. Willie Gault. Dan Hampton.

A lot of good players. Matt Sui. Used to block for Peyton Manning. Not Peyton Manning, sorry. Walter Peyton. Walter used to block for Peyton Manning. Not Peyton Manning, sorry. Walter Peyton. Walter Peyton. Walter Peyton Manning. I'm going to go with a nine. A lot of a lot of a lot of good players.

Oh, an eight, nine. That way, at eight five for the eight. Oh, Jesus. Tough crowd over there. The Russian judges over here. Yeah, the Russian judges. All right. Gameplay of this game was a reference, by the way. It's so funny that they fucked us in like figure skating like we give a shit we oh you goddamn Russians got him hockey though yes we did once all right

1962 gameplay of this there's a great band called Russian circles which is a hockey workout thing that they came up with there's a band the incredible band named Russian circles Kind of was like rock. It's uh, yeah, but heavy No singing instrumental with one of the fucking most killer drummers out there right now. See that I'm under the wire I am under the wire here. All right, check them out Russian circles. Yes gameplay gameplay, I would say I gave it a ten because I I am under the wire here. All right. Check them out. Russian circles. Yes. Gameplay. Gameplay. I would say I gave it a 10 because I was so sick of watching the Bears destroy everybody and they did that stupid Super Bowl shuffle thing which was cringy the second it came out and

I don't know. I just, I just, they would just they would just hamming it up too much. So, and then also, you know, maybe I kind of knew that if my team ever played them, we would lose like 45 to three, 46 to three, whatever. How about the fact they never gave Peyton the ball? And I know the fridge, he gave it to the fridge. They gave it to the fridge. Listen, Mike Dick, you know, he got knocked. They gave it to the fridge. Listen, Mike Dicker, you know, he got knocked around a lot back in the day.

That's sad. So maybe he just forgot for half a second. You know what's a weird error in Mike Dicker is when he had the blonde highlights? He did have the blonde highlights. Dude, he looked like a fucking coke dealer. He had that must, he looked like the cop that would shake you down, take your drugs

and now you work for me. That's what he looked like when he first started coaching. When he had the blonde highlights, when then he just had the total brown mustache. I loved him. Dude, that guy was, he was scary at home just in an interview. Remember when he was doing that, next question. And he was staring at me when he just had fucking not like, I just can't imagine being that much of a man and then having to sit across from those sports writers and they're like, what about me third quarter? How come you ran it instead of passed it? And he's just like, I want to twist your fucking head off.

Or maybe I'm projecting. All right. I'm gonna go with the gameplay of seven. Seven, okay. Jack at seven, seven, I had a six point nine. Name of the game? The Monday Night Marino. I give this game a ten. Oh the name of the game is a ten. I just I just love this game. I'm gonna go with a eight. You know what I see with your numbers, I see respect. That's what I like. It's intimidating to come

here you know one of the great wide receivers of all time Flanker whatever they called you slot slot even though I had more catches on the outside How about that touchdown pass you through yeah, yeah, you know That's fun. Is your dad give it up when you did that You coulda let him more. No, my dad's my biggest fan now. I'm joking. When I was a kid, he was tough. Tough motherfucker. I did what I had to do to get you where I wanted you to be. I mean, to make your dreams come true. He says, he goes, you know what? I look back on how I parented you and I think I should have been

thrown in jail. He said that a couple times. Oh, dude, I mean, you can't ask anything more than that. All right. So this game is 38th overall. It is just ahead of Elway versus Montana, 1994, week seven, Chiefs versus Broncos. We did with Eric Stone Street, I believe. And then the 2021 SEC Championship, UGA versus Bama. Yeah.

That's where it lands. Super Bowl 21 is the 39th best game of all time. That's interesting. What do you get the best? Little Patriots heavy. Yeah, yeah, Little Patriots heavy. Can I tell you what game everybody loved that I fucking hated?

Which game? Was that Chiefs-Bills playoff game where neither defense could stop. I was like, what am I even? 13 seconds. What am I watching? I had the same exact feeling. You talk about the modern era of football.

This isn't football anymore. This is like I'm watching something from a video game. Basketball. 7 on 7. What do you know when you play fucking defense anymore? Listen, the NBA is this weird time. It's the greatest shooters of all time. But it looks like a shoot around.

They're just running from the 3-point arc to the 3-point. It looks like horse. Yeah, it's weird. But I will say, I will never stop being amazed that some seven foot guy can drain a three now. Like that was one of those things like you hope that happened once a year. Or just for whatever reason garbage time you'd have that you know backup white center would be he would put it up.

And if that thing went in people would talk about it for a week. We would be like study class you know study hall or whatever, just being like, I know, but what about when fucking, you know, Rick Roby hit that fucking three pointer against the Kansas City Kings way back in the day. I'm not saying that happened. I forget who did it, but like, or like Manu Bull, you know, would do stuff like that. Now it happens all the time. So there's this weird thing where I think the talent is the greatest it's ever been. And I don't buy into that shit like all these kids today, the soft, they couldn't play in another era. It's like they would play differently.

And the guys from your era would play this way. If that's how the game is being played. Like that whole thing that LeBron couldn't, I mean, he's basically a defensive lineman playing hoop. Like I look at him and he would be like Anthony Mason that could score 50. If he played on those early 90s next teams, woo. Yeah, he, I mean, it's just, time always,

the athlete will always get better just from information, studying, like, it used to be a folklore on how Jerry Rice used to train. Now I can go on Instagram and watch my favorite football player. There's women cross-fitting at that level Yeah, that's what they do it's like all right is it but then like everything becomes possible like you remember Who's that guy in the Giants who made that ridiculous catch like that?

Jay now Odell yeah now like everyone does it because they practice it and they got the those things that you go like this It makes me off because a lot of these guys try these one-handed catches when you could put two-handed catches on it and then they drop the one-handed catch. Guess what? You've just dipped your toe into becoming an old man. I know. Because that's, let me tell you something kid, when I get it you use both your goddamn hands. 100%.

Stop trying to get on television. Instagram. Move the fucking sticks or get the fuck off the field. You want to start smoking a pipe? I like pipes. I like pipes. You gotta get third downs and get touchdowns. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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He could have gone somewhere else. He could have done that baby shit and just go pile on with somebody else, and he did and he stuck it out and I think that you know the way these you know skip whatever these skippy fucking guys who never played the game look at him he's just the thing about them is they sports writers is their thing is championships is their way of taking out their own shortcomings on professional athletes. And the reality is, all of these leagues have 28 teams then, so you had a one in 28 year, mathematically,

chance of fucking winning. Nobody plays for 28 years, so most people are not gonna have a ring, and that's like therein to be like, you know what my knock is on that guy these fucking guys who are gonna drop a heart attacks at 45 the way that they judge you guys so I mean if you know the deal haven't played with the Patriots it isn't any one person you got to have you got to have the coach you

got the players you got the GM you have to have the owner and you have to have luck you have to have all of that shit That's what the Chiefs have right now and it's going their way. Jesus is it ever. It's all of that stuff. And then when somebody goes on a run like the amount of people that aren't going to get rings now because of what the Chiefs are doing or the amount of people that didn't get rings when Jordan played or what the Patriots did, what the Yankees did in the late 90s to hold that against somebody, you know, as

I just think, I never listened to that. And it's always bugged me. And I fucking hated, I fucking hated the Dolphins. And there was a period where I hated Dan Marino just because he was beating us. But I always respected him. And then, you know, the longer he did it, and I started hearing those sports writers, because we would watch him twice a year come in and do what he did to us. And would just be like these guys are this is fucking ridiculous The level of shit that this guy's getting yeah, and he's down there like, you know, it's got the franchise on his back So huge damn merino fans So I I'm thanking you for letting me come on here and at least presenting a different argument when it comes to that shit

No, we appreciate you coming on. Dan Marino, I've met him a few times. Such a cool dude. He doesn't get the respect that he, you know, if he were to play nowadays, I mean, he'd be like a 6,000 yard quarterback. I actually got to say that to him at a benefit. You did?

And he was like, oh, I don't know about that. I go, he fucking threw for 4,800 yards when that documentary on me. He was dipping too when I met him. We were hanging out at the Super Bowl. We were at a cool restaurant in Vegas. I saw him, he had a dip in with a cool sport coat on. What about his release?

Quickest release, arm goes up, ball comes out. That's what his dad said. Dude, it looks like they spit up the film. He just goes, it looks like it's in it's they spit up the film. He just goes it's like a machine. And that was another thing that I think helped him with like playing against the Bears is no matter how good their rush was he could get the ball out so quickly and yeah and so accurately. And that was my big thing. Like we'd pay him twice a year maybe sack of once. And when we finally did I would like run on the TV like I would run up to Stevie like,

ah, ah, ah, and I go, God, it's just so building up. Like, fuck, every time you thought you had the guy, oh, and it was always complete. All right, I'm starting to hate him again, thinking about him playing the Patriots. Well, Bill, thank you so much. Everyone go out and check out Bill Burr's new special that comes out in March, Drop Dead Years on Hulu.

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Gotta get Paul in here. Okay, you know what most fucked up Southern saying I ever heard? What? That boy would fuck a rock if he thought a snake was under it. Wait, say that again? That boy would fuck a rock if he thought a snake was under it. I was just like, I don't know what that means. I don't either. But I need to talk to my agent

Where have you booked me? I love southern terms though. They had all that board fuck mud Like I don't Thank you, thank you. Oh, sorry What an episode of billboard I you know what I always get little, I feel like I'm two for two on Boston's actor. You're clammed up. Clam up. You're clammed up. The lights got too bright for you. You're a little clammed up. You got on my shoes, this fucking guy.

I wanted to call him a boomer. I'm like, that's a boomer joke. He might be a boomer though. He definitely is. I think he's a boomer. I was hoping you'd rag on him because he was calling you kind of effeminate for wearing those shoes,

but he wore your jersey in SNL. Like. Did he? Yeah, wearing another man's jersey? Come on. No, that's kind of cool. It's kind of tight, but still. That's kind of tight.

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I'm believing I'm buying it. I think he's the man. I think he's a difference maker. I think he's the one to bring us back to the proms land and the AFC East. Let me know what your thoughts are. Love you show. Thanks. Tim Milosky. Love your show. Thanks.

Tim Milosky. That's a great name. Milosky. Milosky. Um, from Florida, central Florida. Is that like Orlando? Yeah, that's that's uh, USUCF territory. You know who lives in Orlando? Charles Woodson. Really? Yeah, he lives in Orlando. He loves it. I want to go visit him. Brandon Marshall. Huh? Not that Culpepper. Brandon Marshall. Yeah, it's a hub. Kevin Smith. Those are UCF guys. Yeah, a lot of you. Yeah, it's pretty good. Now

let's get back to the question of Aaron Glenn to the Jets. Is he gonna be the guy to bring him over the hump? I'm excited for the Aaron Glenn hire. I like him as a coach. I think, and he's a former player. He's, and he was a former really good football player. He's shown nothing but greatness. I liked his press conference. Did you see his press conference?

I didn't know. I thought he sounded like he could command a room. It just, it sucks because that's a tough job. You know, it's not just being a coach there. So like to make him make the Jets finally get over the hump, you know, in theory, he's taking over a pretty solid defense. If he can get that defense popping, you know, you get a little,

because I mean, Salah had him going. Yeah, he had him going too. Yeah, and so you bring in Aaron Glenn there, and he kind of knows that market, man. He wanted that job. So I think that makes a difference. But it's gonna depend on like the offense. Not to figure out quarterback,

have to figure out some front office stuff. Yeah. Well, that like is Aaron going to play ball? Is he because he's there? Is he going to bring him back? And if he's going to bring him back, he needs to be a positive. And I'm not saying he's not a positive guy, but you got to do the little shit. Like you're going to have to be at the the the offseason. Like you got to you got to have a new culture of like guys we gotta Be a part of that culture. We gotta be a part of that culture

No, if Aaron does that like that's slam dunk move right there I saw he saw Dan Campbell do it in Detroit so you know you can see that blueprint of what you can do no Yeah, I'm not worried about that. It's just, it's not even for these coaches that could be good head coaches, or it's about the situation they're going into. And like, it's a crap shoot if you don't have a quarterback. It's a crap shoot when you do have a quarterback. So like, and it's ultimately about that, you know?

So I'm rooting for Aaron Glenn, not against the Patriots, but you know, I'm rooting for him because I respect the hell out of them I think he's he did a great job with this defense in Detroit That had like full next man up mentality But they all when you when they still were able to make plays and get off the field For the consistent part of the year with all those different players. I mean that's something to do. That's the coach. So they believe in him. I'm hoping he does well. Okay for every other sports fan outside of Kansas City and

Philadelphia like we're in total health. The Super Bowl is going to be the worst. Can we not play it? I would like to see both lose and this game against the bills and the Chiefs Clearly everyone should know now that the only person who can beat Patrick Mahal is Tom Brady This is a great Super Bowl. There's there's history on the line Regardless if you hate it or you like it, you know, this is a historical moment. No, no, no back to back team has even got to the Super Bowl, I don't think. I'm pretty sure like it's been like, yeah, there hasn't. No, no fact check.

I mean, I'm on, I'm in. I mean, we had the Bills go to four Super Bowls, but they didn't win any. No, I'm talking about winning the back to back winner. I don't think has ever gone to the Super Bowl. Like this is some uncharted territory. This is fucking, this is insane. Especially in the era we're in right now, you know. And New Orleans is turf too, so no excuses from the Eagles this time. The Eagles look good, man.

I've been talking myself up, and've been I've been I've been against these Eagles all year. But like, look, I thought the Sirianni. See, I don't want to jump on because the last time I did something like this, I jumped on the Sam Darnold train and then what I slapped him in the ass. He shits in my fucking hand. OK. I still think. That Philly like, they've played good. They've played good.

Vic D'Angelo, and I, you gotta get, I gotta tip my hat to Sirianni. Like, he's been dealing with a lot of shit, and they're there, but they gotta win this thing. And the thing is they got a hungry ass Saquon Barkley with two weeks to get healthy. He's gonna do it. You see how fucking motivated he was?

You see that? This is gonna be a good Super Bowl. You know, all the shit that Nick's here on, he's been a coach for what, three years and has been to the Super Bowl in two of those years. Hey, what's up guys? My name is Edgar Carrera from Yakima, Washington, home of Cooper Cup. Quick question for you guys. Do you think if Patrick Mahomes, three Pete's and this Super Bowl, that they would be considered better than the 2014 to 2018 New England Patriots, let us know go Hawks Yeah, they probably would yeah back to back to back. Yeah, they've got four Super Bowls in a short-ass time

You got a I mean you got to tape your cap, but that's some that's some That's when you become big dogs, these are big dogs. They're big dogs unprecedented three years a big dog insane. I Don't like saying it but it's the truth You know, that's big dog. They got work to do for the whole Patriots experience, but the second dynasty. All right. Yeah. Yeah Hey big dogs right now dog. Hey guys, it's that one your guy from the old not house nation Hey listen, there's a lot of a lot of negativity out there around this Super Bowl You know the chiefs getting pushed through and I don't know the Eagles rematch rematch, blah, blah, blah, viewership down.

Listen, let's take a step back and just be happy. Happy we got football, happy we got a game, happy we can sit around, crack a Coors Light, eat some wings, get some pizza, hang out with friends, family, your dog, your, you know, if you're a cat guy, that's cool too, whatever, we're happy for ya. Let's just be happy we got some mother effing football.

And that's it, alright, love you, bye. I agree. That's a great message, darling. That's happiness. Someone asked me what's your happy place? What's your answer? I went into thinking like Happy Gilmore. You know, like, no, but mine was my dog and my,

and Lily, Lily's practicing and shooting goals and smoking them every time, like 100 for 100 in my happy place. While Rocky's being a good dog and not going after the ball. He's just sitting there jumping up celebrating like a well-trained dog Well, well I'm sitting back in a large chair watching with the I Think I got two kettlebells and I'm just doing sets of random sumo squats.

You're working out in your happy place. In my happy place with like a band doing some glute stuff, make my body feel hella good watching my kids score hella gold with my dog well trained. That was my happy place. Big old chowin. It was funny, that's what I thought about. I was sitting there like, where were my happy place big old chowin. I was funny. That's what I thought about I was sitting there like where were my happy place?

It'd be that yeah, she's trying to get herself better Dog is pretty good Fuck it. No, it's an activity therapist. Uh-huh. Do you have a therapist? No, but I need one Hello need one. Hello. What is the city that you think is deserving of a Super Bowl that hasn't had a Super Bowl set there yet? Okay, that's all. Bye. Wow. A city that has never hosted a Super Bowl city which was the best one to host a new Super Bowl? Oh? Let me think about this I'm gonna I'm just gonna say Boston. How fucking tight would that be cold weather Super Bowl back to the roots? Foxborough was a little bit far from Boston. It's always annoying. There's no stadium. Yeah, it's like oh

So it's gonna be at Gillette. Yeah, just like how San Francisco does it all this shit's in San Francisco and the stadiums in Santa Clara No, I like warm Super Bowl. Just because we lost in two cold Super Bow- we lost in two cold Super Bowl in India. I know it was in India, but it's still cold Super Bowl. And then Minnesota, cold Super Bowl. Don't like cold Super Bowl. So it's a warm city. Nashville? No. They're probably getting one soon. So, what's a warm city? Nashville?

No. They're probably getting one soon. I think they're getting a new stadium. Where's another city? Where's a warm area? Is Puerto Rico's a city? Yeah, account. San Juan.

The Gulf of America just put it on a float. And the Gulf of America. The U.S. Virgin Islands. What about, yeah, what about the Aloha Ball? That would be kind of tight. Have they.S. Virgin Islands. What about the aloha ball? That would be kind of tight. Have they ever had a Super Bowl in Hawaii? Just the Pro Bowl. That's where I would go.

It's dilapidated as shit. I would go to Hawaii. You gotta redo the aloha ball though. Oh no, this is like the World Cup. We would fucking, we would blow that thing out and build a extravagant beautiful. This is like a four-year down the road we got and I love the history of the What what is it though? What bowl is it called the low-haul ball ball?

Cuz that's where That's where the rainbows used to play rainbow warriors like Colt Brennan and stuff I used to watch that stuff and I went to juke go so yeah Chang he's a Johnny Chang. Yeah, he's somewhere but uh, yeah, we gotta go fool new though We have we have the coin flip, huh? Norm Chow does the coin flip norm chow Laird Hamilton? Would have to be a part of it in some form or fashion. I want him like Like the open the ceremony.

He's gotta surf a big wave. Well maybe you go like the Jacksonville route and you have a pool in the new stadium and Laird is just in there holding his breath. No, no. But there would be like, you know like when you do like the Super Bowl, like Fox would host it, obviously, and you have like the pre-show stuff,

and there's always like the cut-ups and like the introductory, like cool things that they put together. Interstitials, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It'd be like him, like, it'd be like a James Bond thing where he'd surf in and like deliver the ball Like because he's like, you know what? I mean, he's pretty big over there and there's probably some like in

some other guy that he would want to have him join him because he wouldn't want he wouldn't want to take all the The the attention of Hawaii. He'd want someone probably from there as well because that's the kind of dude he is attention of Hawaii he'd want someone probably from there as well because that's the kind of dude he is so you'd have two of them surfing in on big waves get pulled in maybe I'll be on the jet ski guy they'll teach me how to do the jet ski thing I'll pull them in and then we'll fucking we'll go maybe the dolphins are in it and we'll start it huh two of us maybe two is the starting no two is not come on this isn't this isn't a dream this could actually happen. Okay, so Hawaii next to people say I dig it I'm going for Boston or

Green Bay would be fun just for the history and the culture dude, Hawaii dog That's tight, that's a good question. Hi. My name is Martha from Hawaii I'm wondering what you would do and drink on the Monday after Super Bowl, but if you lost What you would do and drink on the Monday after Super Bowl, but if you lost Martha from Hawaii What would you do or drink on the Monday after the Super Bowl, but if you lost? Definitely probably drinking a smoothie always Or Coors light maybe of course like Coors light. What did you do on a Monday after a loss? We mean the Indianapolis one Where's light? What did you do on a Monday after a loss? We mean the Indianapolis one? Just like just done go home chill. Yeah, I just remember go. I remember that next

Like the travel home With the team you travel that night or is the next day next day next day so brutal He just went home and it was like cold and snowy. Wasn't it snowy? No, not in 12, maybe. Usually it's always. It was cold but it wasn't snowy. Yeah.

Yeah. This was a bad, and then you're just like playing it on like man I wanna get out of here. How quickly do you go to the facility to clean out your shit and like do your AC interviews? Like the next day? Yeah, you're hanging out there for. I'd be there for the next couple of until I left, so you still

you still do your routines. Yeah, do your shit. Go in and. See the boys. Eat some free food. You know, you know, hot tub, cold tub. Sit there. Everyone's just departing. Everyone's leaving.

You're thinking about everything you did wrong. That whole off season. Hey, Julian, Jack and Kyler, Sam from Pennsylvania. Been a Patriots fan for a long time. My question is, what is the most cool or interesting fact about playing in a Super Bowl that the average person might not know? I'm excited for the 2025 season,

gonna be great for the Patriots, thanks. Pennsylvania, we were just talking about that with Lily. She's like, I wanna go to Pennsylvania. I'm like, why do you wanna go to Pennsylvania? She goes, I think it's beautiful there. I go, what? Well, you were just in Pennsylvania. I know, but I was like, how do you know Pennsylvania?

I think it's because it sounds like Transylvania and That's what like cuz that's what I used to think as a kid I wanted to go Pennsylvania because I think it's like where the vampires are So yeah, Pennsylvania Super Bowl fact The average person wouldn't know Average person wouldn't know that you have to pay for all your tickets at face value And then you have to pay extreme amount of money for all your friends and family's hotels And so all the money you make in your playoffs you basically spend

at the Super Bowl and you play for free For the love of the game memories after lifetime also I think of a fun one that you've told me is that you because there's two teams They both do a party and they play on a party and there's like Concerts and musicians and it's a whole fucking party and they still do yeah, yeah, it does one There's losing party. Yeah, the vibes are that's cool. I suspect no vibes except for if Rob's there Rob did go ham with LMFAO with a broken ankle after the loss he did He he but like he made the vibes good. Yeah, we needed that. Yeah

Fucking Rob. Hey, how's it going? This is Evan calling from Los Angeles. I was wondering if If you think the Chiefs and the Eagles were playing each other in a beer pong tournament Who would they choose for either side and what do you think would come out on top? choose for either side and who do you think would come out on top? Thanks for your time. First time, long time. Bye. Oh, that's a good question. Two guys. Two guys. Each team. So Chiefs is, you know Patrick knows how to play. You know for a fact that he, I think he even showed it in like documentary. He's fucking, he's wet. He's, whew. And he's clutch. He's fucking, he's wet. He's, whew. And he's clutch, that's a no brainer.

No brainer, and he's probably better with like 10 beers in him. And then who's his partner? It's gotta be Travis, right? He probably knows how to play, I think he knows how to play too though. Yeah, it's gotta be Travis. But there's gotta be a dude on that team.

There's someone on that team that don't, we just don't know his name. You know who I think it might be who Dark Horse Andy Reid Andy Reid put on a Hawaiian shirt I bet his defense is the king of a barbecue and you know he I think he's Mormon though so they probably use like a red bull yeah just water water yeah can Morm can mormons do caffeine No, they don't so can't do red bull speaking of Mormons How great is that move that show American Primeval? Will you take how do you say it American Primeval is that but then I read it on the show like is it prime?

Bull primeval, it's just spelt weird. Yeah Great great show you get Pete Berg on the show. I want to get here on now. He's fucking so cool I would love no now that he has like yeah, there's a reason to do media. He's so cool though He freaking uh, he's got such a wild career, too He's had a wild career and he's he's always connected with like the coolest like he connected me during the fires with like freaking a bunch of the firefighters two of like the coolest like he connected me during the fires with like freaking a bunch of the firefighters two of like the biggest firefighters and LA or from Boston for from Southie the Mullins so shout out to the Mullies

They're freaking awesome. They come in by my house and stuff checking it out. My dog's about to give me some hoses and stuff He's we're getting like, he's walking me through if anything comes down. We got this, you know, like, it was pretty tight. Got, and that's from Peter. And then Peter also hooked me up with my boy, Sal. He's a cop, like Santa Monica Petey, just retired though. Went to the retirement, shout out to Sal.

But like, he always has like first responder dudes. He's connected. Fre freaking Navy SEALs He's just Peter Berg is cool. He's just cool, dude. I Went to we went to fight together. We went to Luke Rockholz fight in Utah in Utah It's all for full circle connected. He's just a cool guy It's who do you think for the so Patrick Mahomes. It's gotta be Travis Kelsey, right? I bet you Travis really good if you don't go Travis Kelsey and you lose it's like well Why looks like you can play basketball and you know, and he's from Ohio the Cincinnati boys

Fuck They're all fucking those. I'll boys. They play a lot of that beer shit beer pong We used to play cornhole and stuff. They're all fucking those Iowa boys. They play a lot of that beer shit. Beer pong, we used to play corn hole and stuff, they're all good at that. So, Patty and Kelsey. Eagles. Eagles. Jalen, he throws a good deep ball, so he probably throws a good ping,

Jalen, you gotta go Jalen. You got Barclay, you got Agent Brown, you got Saquon. Yo, I think I've actually played beer pong with Saquon. Really? Yeah, at Austin, at Danny's house once. How was he? He's pretty fucking good. Pretty fucking good or like the best guy on the Eagles?

This is the championship of beer pong here. You can't be pretty good. Hurts. to Jean. Devante Smith. Oh, we got to get one of the exciting whites. They got to the gene. He's pretty athletic. I saw him dunking. Oh, that little boy could dunk. He you know, who's a you know, who's blanket ship.

You got fucking Kenny Pickett, too. I feel like backup quarterback might be really good at ping. And he's a Pittsburgh kid. Fucking those Pittsburgh kids, those those those dudes are all fucking in those fucking. Like cold brick fucking houses. I've been in them on like a a hill, playing hella beer pong. Basement in the winter, yeah.

That's like some straight Ohio. Cause Ohio is like super close to Pittsburgh, Kent. You know what I mean? Yeah. So you'd always have, like the terrain is very, well Pittsburgh you feel like you're going down into like a mine, it's crazy. You come out with the black lung.

Come on, I got the black lung, pa. It's Flynn Beerpong. It's crazy. You come out with the black lung. Come on, I got the black lung, pa. It's Flynn Bure. What's the worst thing? So who's our, Jalen and who? I don't think it's Jalen. And I think with this Eagles team, cause their line is their identity, you gotta go with like one of those lines.

Lane Johnson. Yeah. Lane, he's a quarterback. He was a quarterback in high school. Lane Johnson's for sure in there. Yeah, and too bad. No, and then I'm going Lane, and I'm going Big Dom. Big Dom.

Team. Big Dom and Lane. There's an intimidation factor with Big Dom, too. Big Dom plays a beer pong, dog. Will you tell us about your little Philly day? Philly day was sick. So who's winning that match real quick? Lane Johnson and Big Dom versus Mahomes and Kelsey?

Yeah. I mean, that was kind of obvious, right? Yeah, Mahomes, Kelsey. Had the filliest day ever. Fucking crazy. Wake up. We have to go do like a walkthrough of the show at the stadium, get our beats, kind of see the stadium, get a feel for the environment,

see the beautiful sets that the Fox crew put up in Lincoln Financials. So you know, you gotta do, I walk through day, go through the show. After that, had a lot of time. So go back to the crib, hit up my boy Dave. I'm like, yo, I need a haircut, dude. You got a guy out here?

So he's like, yeah, I do. And I was like, yo, I need a haircut, dude. You got a guy out here? So he's like, yeah, I do. And I was like, yo, I also need to get a cheesesteak. Where should I go? He goes, all right, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna eat Angelo in South Philly with the Cooper Sharp. That's cheesesteak. All right, we're gonna get that.

We're gonna pizza. And then we're gonna get that. We're gonna pizza, and then we're gonna get the haircut by Bryce Harper's barber above Angelo's while eating with Big Dom in there. So I literally, I'm like, all right, let's go. Go down to South Philly, walk over there, get out, go upstairs, place is packed, cheesesteak is phenomenal. Cheese steak is phenomenal.

The pizza's spectacular. I'm in the kitchen of the condo above the restaurant getting faded up by my guy. I gotta get his name. I forgot his name. Bryce Harper's dude though. So like it's pretty Philly, you know. He's a Philly guy.

Dave-O, he's Mr. Philadelphia. He's in there, brings in Big Dom. Big Dom and I just start chopping it up while I'm eating a chili or a cheese steak, getting the haircut. Big Dom is like, yo, you need a ride? Get in the Big Dom-mobile. He's got a blacked out Escalade,

hella sick, going through lights and stuff. I don't know if that's legal, but he's got fucking sound. Everyone's looking at Big Dom driving down Philly, like, yo, Big Dom, it was fucking insane. And then we're driving at Big Dom-mobile. And you know in Creed where you see all the dudes from the hood and the dirt bikes

and shit? I swear I saw like three, I saw three dudes wheeling down fucking Philly bro. Philly is hot. Philly, it was, it was, and then I go back to my house and I'm like, or I go back to the hotel, which is spectacular, beautiful hotel that four seasons in Philly. Very nice. Grog has been talking about it for fucking two weeks. It was nice Get back there I go over my goddamn work and I'm like, all right gotta get over my work

I want to go over my beats this that Start thinking about questions you're gonna ask cuz I do an interview. I was a little nervous whatever So I go back and then I'm like, all right, I got my shit. I feel good. I'm confident Get in bed brush my teeth Lie down turn on TV invincible zone Invincible zone Yeah, I watched a whole goddamn movie Vince Papali Was walking down the same goddamn area in South Philly earlier that day getting a goddamn haircut at Angelo's

While eating a cheesesteak eating a slice incredible And then Rocky came on after I was gonna say I fell asleep I thought anything more than I couldn't do it. It was such a fucking Philly day It was so Philly. You said you saw AJ Brown too? Yeah, Big Dom, he FaceTimed AJ Brown. AJ's a cool kid, man. I'm happy for him. He's a beast, too. He'll be on the paths next year.

Who knows? Philly's very similar to Boston. Just a little bit bigger. It's bigger? It's like if Boston and New York had a kid that was bigger than the... If you did like New York's footprint kid that was bigger than the... If you did like New York's footprint,

but Boston's kind of level of urbanness. Yeah, I don't know, but I just felt like, you know, you got the cobble streets like South Philly, like a lot of that feels like, it almost felt like you're in South Boston, little flatter. Yeah, and all the history too. Yeah, and then I went up into like Angelo's

and it felt like I was going up into like a north end apartment, you know what I mean? Like, it felt very similar, because I used to go to Damanica's, there's the deli, and then you go above, my boys, you know, you go chill out there. It's the same, it was like that same kind of vibe. I mean, they're both East Coast beautiful,

you know what I mean? With like heavy immigrant populations. Yeah. A lot of Italians, a lot of Irish. I mean, they're both East Coast beautiful city, you know what I mean? With like heavy immigrant population. Yeah. A lot of Italian, a lot of Irish. You know what I love about Philadelphia that Boston doesn't have is the consolidated sports arenas. Like Wells Fargo is right next to Lincoln,

is right next to Citizen Bank. They're all right there, they share a parking lot. There's like a little bit of like a sports connectivity with Boston, it's Foxboro, you got Gillette, you got, you know, the garden is right in the city, which is cool. Fenway is right in there, but it's nice to have it all consolidated. That would be, I mean,

I think that's what Kraft wanted. Yeah, they're going to do it in what, like, South Boston, I heard. With the Olympics, that whole fucking thing. That would have been sick if we were in the city, but then, I like having one way into Foxborough, one way out. When they figure out, The traffic makes it awesome.

If they can figure out the Revolution Stadium to be like in Boston proper, that'll be sick too. I thought they were going to. They were building something over there. I think near the Encore or something. I don't know. Let me type. Last question.

I'm going to ask this pretty simple question regarding the Super Bowl. Who wins? Do the Eagles win or do the Chiefs win? Thank you. I think the Chiefs are going to three, Pete. I just. That's where my gut tells me.

I don't have any fucking like, you know, like. I'm not going to Dan Arlowski like, well, this, this, this, this, this. Like, we all can do that. I Don't know. I just think I think the Chiefs they just thrive It's close You put your money on soo bulls always got something fucking going on. Yeah been there. They're doing they don't make you good They can just run it down their throat. I don't know but control the game. I heard Tom talking on coward It was really really Brought me back to the

Those days he said, you know, it's a four-hour game a Lot of times defenses just die at the end and I mean So we'll see We'll see. It'll be a good one. It'll be a good one be a really good one So we'll see. We'll see. It'll be a good one. It'll be a good one.

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