Games with Names - National Tight Ends Day

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

Happy National Tight Ends Day! Rob & Jules are celebrating the annual holiday by going deep on two all-time tight ends: Antonio Gates and Dan Campbell. Then Rob breaks down some in-depth questions... on the Tight End position in this week's Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:51 field that we bring the most joy to the game I mean you see George Kittal play you see Travis Chelsea play, myself playing. Every time Jules, you talked about, oh, Rob will catch a ball up the middle and he'd be laughing and grinning. He would. And yes, there we go. See, there's evidence. I'm not lying here, folks.
Starting point is 00:03:06 There's evidence to this proof that we have the best personalities as well. Welcome to dudes on dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. And I'm Rob Grankowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And this is a special week, not just for myself, but many of my fellow co-workers. out there. It's national tight ends day, everybody. The best holiday in the world. And what are we talking about? Well, of course, we're talking about one of the best tight ends of all time. Antonio Gates. And then we get into talking a badass tight end turned head coach. Yes. And then we talk about my favorite young stud tight end in the NFL right now. And here's a hint. He's a rookie. And then we wrap it up by answering detailed questions about the tight end position in the chillest dude of the week presented by Corsley. And
Starting point is 00:03:56 Let me tell you these answers I'm going to be giving about the tight end position, they're spot on. You're going to want to know, tune in. Dudes on dudes is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, Jules, what's up, brother? You know what the week is, baby. Come on, tell everybody. What week is it, Rob? No, yeah, I want you to tell everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Happy National Tight Ends Day. Thank you, Jules. That's right. Shout out to all the tight ends out there. Oh, shout out to George Kittle as well because he's the one who. who created Happy National Tight Ends Day, which I'm pretty sure it was him, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:31 He started tight on you and he also started National Tight Ends Day. Yeah. I mean, thank you, George, for representing us tight ends and doing all the things you can do for us tight ends as well and being a complete tight end out there as well. How are you celebrating this holiday, Jules? I don't celebrate this holiday. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Come on, you love tight ends. I'm the Jew on Christmas here. Hey, no. Okay, I am not a tight end. You love tight ends. I love tight ends. I see you always checking my tight end out, Jules. I do like tight ends because I like tight ends.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I had the best tight end of all time, got to play with him. He opened me up. So I love tight ends, but I'm not a tight end. I'm not celebrating it. How are you celebrating it? Oh, I'll be on the couch, actually. I'm off on Foxx this weekend, so I'll be on the couch. And I'll be gronk spiking something every single time a tight end scores this Sunday.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I love you grading the gronk spike. It's also on Foxxbale. Me too. And I think it's going to become a thing now and it's going to become a tradition. I kind of just graded in one out of nowhere when I was on two weeks ago. And then this week coming up, they're like, yeah, let's do some gronk spike ratings. They have the gronk spike scale rating on the screen. And it was one of the coolest, you know, little segments I think I've ever done on TV before. And hopefully it becomes something bigger every single week.
Starting point is 00:05:48 So all you little kids out there when you score your touchdowns on their highlights that you're sending in for our T-Mobile stuff if we're still doing all that. stuff just throw a good gronk spike and you'll get gronk rated all right let's talk these dudes tight end national history day or whatever it is a i synopsis on who oh yeah well let me also tell you if it's national a tight end week you know i'm celebrating by only talking tight ends here on dudes on dudes this week as well so let's get on to the a i summary of our first tight end that we will be talking about first tight end oh all right standing at six foot four and two hundred fifty five pounds this undrafted tight end from kent state oh jules did you hear that i heard that you can state that's where you went to school i went to school yeah too bad you didn't play basketball uh where he played basketball
Starting point is 00:06:38 where this guy played basketball oh he did play basketball not football not football jules he played basketball only at kent state that's what you should have done all right maybe you could have got some more recognition there then maybe yeah because this dude represents kent state and he didn't even play football there yeah he represents the football program there too and play basketball oh sorry jules i'm just i'm just digging into you now it's national tight ends week i'm allowed to say anything i want let's go all right all right because he he became an eight-time pro bowler five-time all pro and a hall famer he played his entire 16 year career for the chargers the san diego chargers that is where they still should be and holds the NFL record for most touchdown receptions by
Starting point is 00:07:21 tight end that's rude of him he holds the record joel he holds the record i wanted that record he wanted but too bad i couldn't get that record and he truly deserves it because he has a hundred and sixteen touchdowns and i don't think it would ever be broken by a tight end no current tight end i don't see breaking it no you know what i don't i wouldn't say that why who's going to break it 116 we'll get into it go ahead all right let's get on andtonio gates uh jules what's the first thing you think of, Antonio Gates, besides him going to Kent State, where that's your alma matter? Revolutionary.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yes. Good point. That's the first thing. I mean, he was, there's always been, there's been guys that played basketball and football that went to the league, Tony Gonzalez, right? Yes. But this guy didn't even play any football. And I heard the story because I was, we did a, we did a show recently together.
Starting point is 00:08:15 He went to Michigan State to play with Sabin and basketball. There something went down. He went to Kent State. was going to play football, but he loved basketball and they went to the elite eight and shit and he was doing crazy things, never played football and then got drafted, or then went to the NFL and became legendary. Like, that's revolutionary to me. And it was so fun to pick his brain on how he used to run routes.
Starting point is 00:08:39 He ran routes like he was playing basketball. Yeah, he sure did. And that's what made him so great is that he took those basketball skills and he translated it onto the football field. That's kind of what got him all. open like he was just so smooth with it at top of the route that a defender didn't know which way he was going it was like he was dribbling the ball as a point guard uh 10 yards onto the route and then boom you wouldn't know what way he was breaking because he was so smooth with his route
Starting point is 00:09:04 and he was so shifty with his routes that's what got him opened so much on you know in the passing game as a tight end and i got to give him credit he was a very solid blocker he was for never even playing the game of football like did he play in high school did he played in high school he played football in high school. But he also, he told me when he first got to the charges, he didn't even get a chance to sniff the past game. They made him a blocking tight end first. Like that was how he got his reps to be coming Antonio Gates. But go back. So I cut you off. Yeah. Okay. No, that, no, that actually explained a lot because I was going to say, usually a guy that is coming from, you know, the football, the basketball side.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Finesse guy. Yeah, they're finesse. Like they make people miss. They don't want to run through anybody. They don't want to get dirty in the trenches. Well, Antonio Gates was there to get dirty and blocking the run game. And he had that football mentality, which is very impressive because he played basketball in college and not football.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Because in order to be a football player, you got to have that mentality of just being off a little bit. You got to have a screw loose. Every football player does. I mean, we're not here. we're not here to say we're scientists and and surgeons and all and some maybe miles garrett he's a doctor he's a he's a dinosaur scientist he's a dinosaur and uh the safety that went to florida state he's he's a he's a well-known doctor as well uh role was it myron role right
Starting point is 00:10:32 intuan rule yeah antoine roll something like that he played safety then retired but we're not doctors but we're not majority of us 98% of us aren't doctors and scientists and and geniuses well i'm a genius and in different ways you are too jules but um uh this guy has had an athlete athleticism, Antonio Gates, red zone threat, you know, obviously he has 116 touchdowns. And everyone said, I was a red zone threat. This guy was a freaking red zone threat. I can tell you that. Great ball scales, great hands. And I would attribute that also why he was so good in the red zone because it's a tight niche area. And in basketball, you got to go get a rebound. Everyone's right there. You got to box out. You got to use your body. And that's how
Starting point is 00:11:14 you score touchdowns in the red zone. That's why I was great there. That's why Antonio Gates was great because you use your body when you got size over these defenders and you got to go up and grab that ball like it's a rebound. And Antonio Gates sure did that. You know what? He's like a perfect storm of the basketball player that came to football because in basketball, he was undersized. He's six foot four. But if you watch him at Kent State, he was banging with like the 6-10 dudes, like, and he was a power motherfucking forward that was physical, that was athletic as fuck on the court. So he was always undersized in basketball. When he got to the league, he was always bigger than everyone. You know what I mean? But he played with that undersized
Starting point is 00:12:01 mentality from basketball when he was like big with people and it translated unbelievably to the football field. I mean, he's some of the inspiration we got with you. I remember specifically when we used to put you out and extend you from the formation, that was because of Antonio Gates. They used to do that with him.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And then when teams would freaking gunner you, they used to gunner Antonio Gates. Like when they put him in the red area. That's how elite he was. And he's a very cool dude from Detroit, Michigan and the stories
Starting point is 00:12:38 about him on campus like as a basketball player were just elite I mean that's half the reason why I went to Kent State is because I heard about them like two years before when he brought him to the elite aid I was like who the fuck is this small school
Starting point is 00:12:55 and then I was getting recruited by Ken I was like oh that that team that made the crazy run with that insane basketball player that Antonio Gates guy who was already a baller in the league by then like it's just it's a crazy story certifiable hall of famer no doubt about this and this says something about basketball players and tight ends
Starting point is 00:13:14 because the guy that's number two on the list for most touchdowns as a tight end as well isn't me jules isn't me it's and it's tony gonzalez tony gonzalez has a hundred 111 all-time t ds basketball player as well at california right yes at california he knew how to transfer his basketball skills to the football field as well and then we got to other players as well. Jimmy Graham didn't play college football. Well, he did actually, I think one year at the University of Miami, but I don't even think he played in high school that his game transferred into the NFL. He knew how to use that basketball skill set and become dominant on the football field. So these guys, the top tight ends that's to score touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:13:58 you know, in the NFL of all time, all played basketball, including myself. That's why I always tell these kids, hey, parents ask me, hey, should my son just concentrate? trade on a sport in high school and middle school. No, absolutely not. Play as many sports as you can possibly play because you learn the different skill sets of these other sports that can transfer to the other sport that you want to really focus on once you get to college. And also, it's not just about the skill sets. It's about the nature of the sport. It's about ethnicity of other players, you know, and other sports and how to work together as a team and come together as a team. So play as many sports as possible it will all transfer and translate to life you know eventually so kids do it all you
Starting point is 00:14:44 don't got to focus on a sport yes once you get to college do that focus on one but play it all as a kid yeah the specialization of the the kids right now you know for one sport it really does it it doesn't it when you play other sports i feel like it opens up different parts of your brain that and you gain different techniques from different sports that translate subconsciously to the one sport that you pick. Exactly. And that's exactly what Antonio Gates did. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:17 He had 955 receptions, 11,000 yards, 841 yards. Only trails Witten, Kelsey, and Gonzalez. For yards by a tight end. For yards by a tight end. And shout out to Antonio Gates as well. Just went to the Hall of Fame this year. I mean, he probably should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer. What was he second or third?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Second. He was second. I mean, we'll just say he was a first because he well, he deserved to be a first. But he deserves every single honor that he gets. And I appreciate him. He was a role model growing up for myself. I appreciate what he did for the tight end position. I want to be where I'm at as a player if it wasn't for the guys before me.
Starting point is 00:16:01 and Antonio Gates was one of those guys before me that set that standard. He's got a really cool voice, too. Like, when you talk to him, it sounds like, like, he'll explain something, and it sounds like it's a movie background. You know what I mean? Like, hey, like, he's smooth. Jules. Like, he, I don't know, he's got any, there's voice inflections and shit.
Starting point is 00:16:27 He's just cool. I remember the first time I met him. Cool cat. Yeah, we went out. played them in what was it 13 or 14 the year we went and won the Super Bowl right where we stayed out there remember we went and stayed out there yes we did and you had the 69 yard reception touchdown to win the game and I set it in the huddle I was like jules 69 yards we got to score and you did I think I said grog it's perfect time for your 69 year yeah and then you scored
Starting point is 00:16:53 that was funny we literally talked about it before that's being situational aware of the situation and that's why you scored it because you were aware of the down and distance we had to go to get to the you know to get a touchdown so you deserve that touchdown I was proud of you and that was to win the game that was a fun one that was that was cool in front of the fans or friends and family you know what I mean all the California people but I saw him after that game I got to meet him for the first time and it was at night in San Diego and he I just remember he had like some cool like a frame big ass like black sunglasses on he had some big ass chains he had like a white t-shirt walking out and i was i was like yo hey g he's like he's like hey man good game little edel man he said something like that to me and that was like my first experience with him yeah he's cool as shit i met him real quick at a fandle event at the super ball uh and it was just cool that i finally got to give him his props in person man tell him i always looked up to him but it was a real quick uh you know intervention real quick meeting but he just seems cool as heck man love antonio gates
Starting point is 00:18:01 1,000% time. What kind of dude is Antonio Gates? Oh, is he a stud? Is he a freak dog whiz, dudes, dude? I mean, he's a lot of it. He's a lot of it. And there's one thing about him is that how thick he is, too, as a football player. Like, that's probably why he was so good at basketball because he could box out defenders,
Starting point is 00:18:21 but how strong his legs were and how thick he was. You don't see basketball players that thick. So that's why I probably translated to being a tight end as well. and being a dominant blocker. I think one of them, I mean, his road alone, or is he a whiz? I mean, you got to be a whiz in order to pick the game back up that quick, you know, and understand, you know, there's more that goes into the game of football. You've got to understand awareness of where everyone is.
Starting point is 00:18:52 You've got to understand plays where the defense is situated and all that. So you got to be very smart. You picked it up quick. I didn't play college football. no he didn't came in and he fucking took the like he was young like as an undrafted guy and like came in like that and made plays and he i mean he was innovative like he really was he innovated the position the tight end position and he was very clutch in many moments and what makes him smart too is the end of his career i mean i i ain't gonna lie like he didn't look like
Starting point is 00:19:23 he could he could move that well but the guy was so smart that he could get into situations where he would get open still because he understood the defense and the coverage and he would just sit and then boom he would just get a pass fed to him and then he would go out they put the other tight end and then he would come back in and every time he's in knew how to use his body he knew how to use that body he was just so smart with it and he on three what is he he's a two three whiz he's got to be it's just it's so remarkable that this guy didn't play it down in in college and then literally was getting gunners. He was getting a gunner set.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And what a gunner set is on punt, you usually have two guys on the gunner to block for punt. Well, they were doing that to Antonio Gates in his prime at the red area, which they used to do with Gronk as well. Like, that's crazy.
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Starting point is 00:26:50 and Hall of Fame are still known to this day. And now let's see who this guy is. Hopefully people know who this guy is as well. Let's see. It's going to be tough to top Antonio Gates. So let's see how this guy can possibly top Gates. Standing at 6'5 and 265 pounds, this former, that's a big size. That's a big size tight end right there.
Starting point is 00:27:10 This former tight end was drafted in the third round of the 1999 draft out of Texas A&M. He's known for his toughness and leadership abilities. growing up in Texas, he starred at Glenn Rose High School, earning all district honors and a reputation for his grittiness. Oh, you think he did the gritty in 1999? Yeah, no, it wasn't around yet. But he had grittiness. In 2010, he transitioned into coaching
Starting point is 00:27:35 and is known for his motivational speeches and aggressive play column. In 2021, he was hired as a head coach of the Detroit Lions. Let's get on, Dan Campbell, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell, I was saying, can he compare to Antonio Gates? You know, with the name out there still played back in the day. And he sure does, but in a whole different style now, you know, he's not knowing Antonio
Starting point is 00:27:59 Gates as a player, but his toughness and his wizardness of how smart of a football players has transferred into the next stage of his life. And his name is still very valuable because he is now the head coach of the Detroit lines and his legacy lives on. These tight ends are just so great. I love going over tight ends. it's national tight end week. Everyone just appreciate the position.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Don't even look at wide receivers this week. Don't look at running backs. Don't even look at quarterbacks. It's all about the tight ends, baby. I never knew of them as a player. Nah, me neither. I didn't. But he played a long,
Starting point is 00:28:36 he played a long-ass time. So he had to have something. If you look at his stats, what he had 91 receptions, 934 yards, 11 touchdowns, which tells you he must have been elite in the,
Starting point is 00:28:48 in the run game. Yes. Tough. Tough. Tough is now. You can tell the way that he coaches the Detroit Lions and that energy he brings to the table and that toughness, you know, the toughness manner that he brings to that team and the mindset. That's how he played as a player. And I didn't hear about him as a player either, but I went back to watch his highlight film and I just love the way that he represents himself on the field. When he gets that ball, it's just full go. You know, it's hard to tackle him. He's just bouncing off of guys. He's just trying to make place he's excited he's bringing energy to the team he must have been a heck of a blocker as well because he played 10 years in the NFL bounced on a couple teams but the grittiness
Starting point is 00:29:29 that he brought as a player was unmatched he would be a great compliment if it was like him and I on the field I would love to have a dude that was behind me just bringing juice and getting me going yeah I mean something to be said about a guy that doesn't have crazy stats and if you watch how he played it looked like he was like having the time of his life no matter what the team asked him to do yes and that's how he coaches and i think that's why a lot of guys resonate towards him because he's an ultra team first kind of guy everyone knows their role he knew his role as a player if everyone has their role and everyone takes pride in their role that's how you have good teams and that's what they've developed over there in in uh detroit um came from he he was coached by
Starting point is 00:30:14 Parcells with the Cowboys. He came from Sean Payton's coaching tree. So he's got toughness, old school coaching in his background. And if those guys loved him, you knew that he was probably a really good team guy. Locker room guy. For sure.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah, as a player and a coach, obviously. Locker room guy, grinder, great size, good blocker, tough in the run game. That's kind of like his scouting report. As a player, just tough as nails. it's kind of like the mentality that he's bringing to Detroit as well as the head coach
Starting point is 00:30:47 and then the scouting report I mean he's kind of amped it up actually he had brought great energy as a player but I think he even took it to a whole other level as a coach he's intense authentic that's what I really love about him is that the stuff that he's doing it's not for show
Starting point is 00:31:03 it's because it's him and that's why it's working and that's why he got authenticity is everything jewels to a lot of things and that's why Detroit is kind of where Detroit is kind of where Detroit is now because he's so authentic in his approach and how he wants to run the team and how he wants to coach the team. Very passionate, very aggressive. It's not like he's being aggressive because people are telling him. It's because it's authentic once again. He wants to be
Starting point is 00:31:26 aggressive. And also he's a Hard Knocks legend, man. He brought all that entertainment, not just in the meeting rooms, but he let everyone see it in public eyes on Hard Knocks. He definitely eats, breath, sleeps football. You can tell that. And that's what you want to see from your fucking coach. You know? It's, it's real. The team, it's been so fun to watch the Detroit line since he became the head coach. And it started out terribly. So like for people like Aaron Glenn and the Jets, if you can get that culture established, which, you know, the Jets are a long way from that. But I'm just saying like there's, it takes time for things to happen. And thank God Detroit gave him the time and the team feed it off, fed off him through those first few
Starting point is 00:32:15 years, first couple years. I think they started like 0 and 9 or something. He didn't win a game for a long time. Owen 16. No, no, no, no. He was on the O'N 16 team when he was playing as a player with the Detroit Lions. And then he became the head coach eventually a couple years later. And then I think they went like one in 15 or one and two and 14.
Starting point is 00:32:37 or something. So he's been through the darkest, darkest days of the Lions franchise. So how much you think he has learned on how to bounce back from such a program being so low to now being where it is? I mean, he's probably learned so many tricks and traits to grind out of that hole to become, you know, a good franchise. I think being in those situations as a player definitely helped him. Player and coach. And coach. I think it's a little bit of everything. I think that, you know, him being with Sean Payton and learning real coach and him being coached by, you know, Coach Parcells and then him experiencing the loss,
Starting point is 00:33:24 he's seeing what good is and he's seen what real is. And so to be in that situation, I think it was like the perfect storm for Dan Campbell, which, you know, from that opening day press conference, you know, when he said he was going to take people's knees out when he goes, what is it? We're going to kick you in. We're going to kick you in the teeth. And when you punch us back, we're going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we're going to get up and on the way up, we're going to bite a kneecap off. Like that was looking back now, you're like, yeah, that's Stan Campbell. But from, from, that point on people didn't take him serious and it's been real fun to watch him prove a lot of people
Starting point is 00:34:08 wrong with the narrative that he went into with uh starting his career and where they are now well whenever someone comes in with a new mindset that's never really been seen before and i'm talking about anything in life like any aspect any business any category of life where it's something new and different you know people always doubt it because you have absolutely no clue if it's going to work sometimes it tanks tremendously and in order to prove everyone wrong you have to prove uh you have to be right you know and get to where you need to get to to get to get those daughters to be believers and that's what dan campbell did with his approach and his aggressiveness being with the detroit lions like everyone's a believer now like hey it's fourth down let's go for it's dan campbell before
Starting point is 00:34:56 everyone was questioning him hey should they go for he's taking too many risks he may be still taking too many risks in some situations but that's just him but everyone's like let's do it let's do it we love this approach it works we were oh and 16 at one time like this guy we got 14 wins this season we're all in let's go for it let's take the risk how about a Starbucks order ridiculous two venty Starbucks pike place coffees each with two shots of expressos and approximately 1,100 milligrams of caffeine I think think that's right before his eight o'clock meeting i i just don't know what to say about that like if i was on a thousand milligrams he probably sweats a lot yeah he must love sonnas just to sweat it out no he just
Starting point is 00:35:44 sweats because he's got so many stimulants yeah and his because i sweat a lot if i drink a lot of coffee and i throw in a cha yeah yeah it's uh that that's that's serious i don't know what would happen if i had a thousand milligrams of caffeine i mean my max is like like 400 what's your coffee order usually like just a small hot black coffee yeah i like black coffee too i like nitro i'll go like a cold brew oh nitro cold brew when you really need to get going oh yeah delicious i don't think it tastes great i just like to get the caffeine no yeah yeah no it never will taste great when it's just straight black do you think he got super sad when the nfl wouldn't provide smelling salts anymore uh he was probably the main reason why he like the NFL came back out and
Starting point is 00:36:31 was like actually you are allowed to have smelling salts we're just not allowed to provide him yeah he might have been one of the guys behind it damn brother what does that what's his boy say is he going to bring a super bowl to detroit i hope so man i think detroit deserves a super bowl i mean detroit the thing is man with them like you can't hate on them last year there wasn't a team or or there wasn't a fan that i know of of a of a team where they're not fans of detroit where they hated on detroit no one did everyone was cheering for detroit if their team was out didn't make the playoffs everyone's like hey Detroit Lions I want to see them win it
Starting point is 00:37:05 Dan Campbell everyone's a fan of Detroit's never won a Super Bowl they never been to a Super Bowl so I was cheering for them last year unfortunately they had so many injuries that it's tough to win a Super Bowl in playoff games when you got you know 12 starters out I mean it's just reality I mean kind of usually the healthiest team wins
Starting point is 00:37:22 in the end healthiest and best team wins so I think he possibly does bring a Super Bowl I think he does I want him to bring a Super Bowl to Detroit. That would be cool to see. That would be cool. You know, I'm in the same boat with you. You know, hopefully they can get one here. That would be, I think that'd be great for the league. It would be great for the league. It would be great for Eminem and it would be great for Detroit. In the city of Detroit and Ford and Ford cars. Mrs. Ford. I got to meet,
Starting point is 00:37:52 meeting Mrs. Ford was like really cool. A lot of, a lot of Ford F-150s would be sold. A lot of, we go on F-150s. All right, what kind of dude is Dan Campbell? Time is up. Yes, what kind of dude is he, oh, man, he's not a stud. I mean, he is in a way. He's studly. He's studly, but like, but like he's too manly to be a stud.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Yeah, he's too manly. Like, he's too aggressive. Like, he's not smooth enough. He's smooth, but like, he's like, he's too masculine. Yeah, he's too blocky smooth. Like, like, like, like, you're like, you're cool, you know? like you're wearing cool clothes like this dude will put on whatever he'll put on whatever t-shirt and shorts are provided for him and go out there and be just a beast it's freaky to drink
Starting point is 00:38:41 1100 milligrams of caffeine yeah that is a kind of freak well that's not dog mentality because dogs actually don't even need one stimulant at all so he's much freaky that he's drinking that much caffeine yeah but he's definitely a dog he is a dog but yeah he is definitely just relentless motivated physically and mentally tough those those I think Detroit in the last
Starting point is 00:39:08 three years haven't won lost back to back games because that's mental toughness how do you get kicked in the teeth okay you know everyone could be the winner yeah how are you when you're the loser but I think he's a dude's dude as well like he that positive attitude
Starting point is 00:39:22 he's a locker room guy he's kind of like he's intense but at the same time same time that he's in intense, he's also calm and cool about being so intense, you know, and bringing so much energy. You know what I mean? Like, like, it's not like he's a spas and all over the place. Like, it's under control all of his energy. He's got a little whiz in him because it's a complete unorthodox way of, you know, changing the culture of coaching in ways and the way to go about.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Not completely changing, but just going his ways about it. Going a little bit of his way about it. Is he allowed to be a dude's dog because he's a coach, so he's allowed to be too? Because he's a player and coach. And he's always got a positive attitude. Oh, my gosh. Has the rankings change for once because he was a player and now he's a head coach? So he's a lot to be two. He's a dude's dog.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah, he's a dude's dog. Yeah, he's definitely a dude's dog. He's a dude because he's a dog, you know, and he's a dude's, you know, while he was playing. I'm pretty sure. As a coach. I've seen him cry after a loss. Yeah. Didn't he cry after the loss last year in the playoffs after the one?
Starting point is 00:40:29 seed. I think he, because he cared so much about the team. And real dogs will cry over comrades. All dogs go to heaven. Yes. Yes, they do. And he's going to heaven. He's a great dude. Let's get into the chills due to the week brought to you by our favorite beer, Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly. Joe's crack a beer with me, a Coors Light. Colors to Rockies. Let's celebrate the chillers dude of the week. That was a little burp right there. Sorry about that, folks.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Delicious. Chilled, that's what I'm talking about. And with it being, hey, everyone, obviously I've been talking about it already on this show, but with it being National Tide Ends Day, we're going to be answering questions about the tight end position. Oh, let's get into it. I'm not a tight end, but I'll get a little freaky.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I'm going to ask you the questions. All right, you ask me the questions. I give the answers presented by Corsla. here we go jules who are the best blocking tight ends of all time who are some of the best blocking tight ends of all time that's a great question and that's a tough question because it's so easy to name the best like receiving tight ends because that's all the glory it's in the papers it's all the highlights but i'm going to go with our guy dan campbell who we just reviewed that's why he played 10 years in the league current guy george kiddle he's so good at blocking as well as being a past catcher the most complete tight end in the game right now and I'm going to give you, I'll give you one more.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I'm going to go with myself as well. You got it. I love blocking. I love blocking. I took pride in it. So I'm going to put myself up there as a fourth guy. Perfect. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Well, what's an underrated trait the best tight ends have? There's an underrated trait, but it's becoming more popular now, is that tight ends have the most fun on the football field. That we bring the most joy to the game. I mean, you see George Kittle play. You see Travis Kelsey play, myself playing. Every time, Jules, you talk about, oh, Rob will catch a ball up the middle and he'd be loud. And yes, there we go. See, there's evidence. I'm not lying here, folks. There's evidence to this proof that we have the best personalities as well. We got to do both. So you got to have great
Starting point is 00:42:40 personalities to do both. You want to know why? Why is that? It's because Lyman are like the greatest group of dudes on the team. And skill dudes are usually the cool dudes. You know, they're hybrids. So they're like the nicest, coolest dudes with like, no, the like the funnest group. but they're half that but also like part cool that is why right that is that is 100% correct again jules thank you for explaining that to everyone i was wondering why us tight ends were so cool too exactly yeah thank you i appreciate that all right are there any young tight ends whose game you've been loving oh oh oh yes he's a rookie right now um i'm gonna go uh i know you know who it is so i kind of want to switch it up on you now and say someone else uh but i'm gonna go with
Starting point is 00:43:28 him still. Ty Warren. He's doing a great job for the Indianapolis Colts. He's been phenomenal this year. Maybe the bonus hands. And he's been scoring touchdowns. He's been gronk-spiking it as well. And he grunk-spikes with his left hand. Lefty. I mean, I got to grade him last week. There's a new thing.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Now, it's the gronk-spike scale. On Fox on Sundays, and Ty Warren was the first guy got the grunk-spiked, and he got an extra point because he grunk-spiked lefty. What if he's a lefty? You're just getting a plus one every time because he's a lefty, and you never really see a grunk-spiked. spike lefty so if you spike lefty too and if you're not it's always plus one now i make the rules
Starting point is 00:44:03 and no one else can change the rules rules are rules so ty warren that's all we got to talk about is only him we don't need to talk about any other young tight ends right now we know brock bowers he's great but we're talking he's been banged up he's been banged up tie warn is the real deal right now he's my favorite young buck all right all right who's all right who's gonna have the best day like the best the best statistical day for all out of all the tight ends on national tight end here we go I'm going to go with the green bay pockers tight end Tucker crap you're going Tucker craft yes I'm going Tucker craft because he goes off every once in a while and this is the time he needs to go off because I'm predicting him to go off for national tight ends day you know they didn't really have that great of an offensive game last week so I think that since they didn't have a great offensive game that Jordan Love and the Tucker Craft connection is going to go off. I don't even know who they're playing. I'm just saying Tucker Craft is going to come through.
Starting point is 00:45:06 He has big games every once in a while. He's a hard-nosed player. He really is. He's a true titan. He loves blocking. He has grit. He's hard to take down once he gets the ball in his hands. So I'm going with an under-the-radar guy, Tucker Kraft, to put up the most statistics on
Starting point is 00:45:22 National Titan. I like that. I like that. I like that. And then lastly, I've always been kind of. I'm curious because I never had the big size speed or hand size of view. Yeah, I got big hands, Jules. I was just born with them.
Starting point is 00:45:36 So, you know, I'm going to be jealous of something that I was just born with. I know, but who would you rather be covered by a safety, a corner, or a linebacker? Well, I'm covered by this course layer now because it's in my mouth. It's covering my whole mouth. Well, that's why it's the chill zone. Yeah, it feels good because it's chill. And I was sweating in here because Dan, Campbell had so much caffeine that I started sweating for him.
Starting point is 00:46:01 This, Cori's light. He's chilling me out right now. Oh, what was the question again? Who would you rather be covered by as an elite tight end? A safety, a corner, or a linebacker? You know, this is situational here. I mean, when you got a legit, legit linebacker who knows how to cover, I'd rather get covered by a safety who is less legit, you know?
Starting point is 00:46:22 A corner, I would say, would be the hardest because they can always stay up on me. But a tall corner was super, super tough. small corner even though they're faster i can use my size in my body a linebacker i can usually always run by but then every once in a while there's a linebacker that is actually athletic enough to cover me and that makes it tough because he's bigger and when they can cover you i can't use my size because then they have size uh so i loved when a safety came down who was kind of slower as a safety a slower cover safety um so if it's um a linebacker who's who's fast in athletic with size don't like a corner that's more tall,
Starting point is 00:46:58 I don't care if they're small. I can bullying them. If they're tall and they're more built stronger, those are tough on me. And then safeties, you know, kind of like, like there's, you know, they're usually slower. That's why they're playing safety.
Starting point is 00:47:12 They can't really. Tough for safeties. Yeah, it's tough for safeties to cover. So, but in the end, in space, they're not good. Out of any, anyone I would have to draw up who I would love to be covered by is one of defensive end drops
Starting point is 00:47:25 and has to cover me. That was my favorite. I got open every single time. Rob Ninkovich. Yep, like Rob Ninkovich. Perfect. I want to be who I was about Rob Ninkov. Ask him, I was 100% completion rate
Starting point is 00:47:37 against him in training camp my second year. And that's where I got like this confidence up. And like it was, it was great. I thank him. And he even takes credit for my career as well because of that. We appreciate you, Niko. But he did knock my head off in the run game like 50 times. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:47:55 But my head's still on. So he actually technically didn't knock it off. So he didn't knock it off. You need to knock it off. And that was the chillest dude of the week. Thanks to our favorite beer, Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes and always celebrate responsibly. That was, wow.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Another fun episode of dudes on dudes tight end, national tight ends day edition. I can't wait to see you celebrating this week, Julie. Oh, my God. That's going to be so fun. Because I'm not even on Fox this weekend. And you're going to have to celebrate for me now. I know. Yeah.
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