Games with Names - NFL Running Backs Tell Their Stories & Explain the Run Game

Episode Date: July 5, 2026

Iconic NFL running backs explain technique and what it takes to be a successful running back in the NFL. Untold stories from Corey Dillon, Brandon Bolden, Reggie Bush, Lorenzo Neal, and LeSean McCoySupport the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I watched a lot of Jim Brown. Jim Brown. Nice. Film, man. And that's who I wanted to be like, you know. I watched a lot. It looked like, you know what, he get hit. He get up slow.

You know, stumble back to the huddle and come back and run you over again. Yeah. And it was just repeated. And I was just watching him. All that film I was watching. He was big, strong, fast. And I'm like, I'm going to try to patent my game after that.

And then on top of that, you know, I grew up watching football. So it was like the Tony Dorsets. Yeah. Try to steal a little bit from him. The Eric Dickerson's. They try to, yeah, big guys, fast, take a little from him. Earl Campbell's, Walter Payton's, Barry Sanders. I never could be like that.

That dude is phenomenal. But, yeah, I just used to watch. watch the running back position and watch all these great running backs and then be like, hmm, I like that. I'm going to take a little bit from there, take a little bit from there. And then, you know, what kind of form my own style, which my thing was I call it my little bag. Like, you know, I may start off the first two quarters running you over, setting you up.

Next two quarters, I might try to dance around you and mix it up. Or vice versa, you know, just depends on what kind of, what they're giving me. kind of worked out. It worked out pretty good. But you also, you were always like really good, like the duo play. You know,

duo where you have the two double teams and the running back really has to set that up. It's all vision, man. You know what I mean? And you can't be too early to the cut or the fucking the guy scrapes over.

Yeah. Can you explain that? I was real, well, we had this Jim Anderson, running back coach for Cincinnati. This is what he, preach to me constantly. Slow to fast through, meaning footwork and press the line, but at a pace where you can see

the cuts. And that's all I really did. I never went full speed grabbing that ball. I was always on my footwork and a little patient enough where I pressed that line where I could see multiple cuts. And just by doing that alone, things are over. open up. Like I can see the backside, see the defense over pursuing, and then you know what? As soon as I see that opening, that's when I explode through.

Next up, Lorenzo Neal on the importance of running the ball in the NFL. Why was the 90s the best football, though? I think 90s, people were viving to try to outdo the 80s because you knew in the 80s is just hard. And the game was starting to change in 90s, certain things, more people wearing knee braces. So 90s was just still the big safety. The guys that would still want to hit you. You know, Ronnie Lott was leaving and here comes Darius. And here comes the John Lynch's.

You know, bad doc, B doc. And it was like, okay, they looked up to those guys. And so you went through those transitions. And then it's now, it's like, okay, Troy's gone, Paul, Moly. So it's like what safety just brings fear like it used to be? You have a couple. not anything going to say the guys still don't hit. They're still going after,

but the game is different. It's very different. But my personal opinion is when you, like, safeties now, you have to cover tight ends. Right. You got to be able to play in space. You know what I mean? Just because these tight ends now are receivers.

A, B, safeties get money taken out of their pocket with big hits now. Right. And ain't nobody. get paid for how many knockout hits you get? What do they get paid for? Interceptions. And these little kids have been farming that since these little seven-on-sevins that you get paid if you touch the ball, TFL, or, I mean, PbUs and picks.

So they don't even go for the hit no more because you want to get the money. Right. Like that's kind of like where I, that's kind of how, because these guys are huge, fast, strong. It's a little smaller because they're faster as far as like linebackers. There's 235 pound lineback. Now when I first got in the league, Ray Lewis was 260. Right.

You know what I mean? But he could move, you know what I mean? But like the game is just changed. It has. You know what I mean? And people want those stats because stats turn into dough. And when you look at the tight-in position now, tight-ins, most of the tightens, you want them,

they're too fast for linebackers and too strong for a safety. Yep. Because you changed the game. You had safeties that used to be able to cover, but now these safeties are guys just too strong. Just pound them. beat them up so you got to double them so there's certain things of elements of the game that you have to compensate for because you have went with you know more of the hybrids because it's more

of sideline to sideline because teams aren't patient enough to say I'm a lineup and I'm going right at you and that's why when you look at November and December teams that usually win usually can run the ball even the Patriots when you guys that's always that was what we did and we had James Devlin and he said hello because he loves you to dad oh y'all tell Jay what up and that's what made you guys everyone thought all the patriotist got brady no they knew that if you did if you put eight nine in box guess what you were going to hurt people walker was going to hurt people when y'all had moss going to hurt so it's like dare you so you so and that but when you run the ball cori dill another guy blocked for in cincinnati tough get downhill can run physical love so you guys everyone talks no

this was not a finesse team it was still physical and that when you can be two-dimensional you're out. It's a tough out. And I mean, you look at the last five, six Super Bowl winners. I mean, Philadelphia Eagles, they ran the shit out of the ball. They tried throwing it the first four weeks. It wasn't until the by week that they said, hey, let's run the ball. We have the best running back in the league. We got a best line in the league. And then we'll set up our past game through play action. You know, you look at, you know, the Rams when they won. They had Gurley. He was a stud, and they had off the run game. You know, everyone, we all fascinate to make this such a spread them and shred them game,

but still, fundamentally speaking, like the teams that run the ball, like you said, late in the year, are the teams that go on to win the Super Bowl. Because you can control the game. Control the game. Not the Niners were doing that,

you know, a couple years ago when they had everything in place. They were still one of those teams. Hell, against the team that we're going to watch, Vikings, rather. Remember they threw the ball eight times? Yeah. NFC championship.

I mean, you only threw the ball eight. times Jimmy G. You know, eight passes. The rest was just run. When you can run the ball and just make teams quit, because it checks your heart. You just got to be like, man, as a guy, it's four yards, three yards, and boom, first down. It just kills the momentum. Yes, demoralize the defense.

And even when you're the guy and, like, when you're on offense and a team is running the ball on you, it takes you out of your rhythm. Yep. It's like when you're sitting there on the sideline, you're going over your place for the next goddamn dry. All right. We got the third down. because the offense going.

First, yeah. Oh, they just got three yards. Six. Oh, Shara, we're up. Six yards? Right. How the fuck can we get out there? That part.

And that's, what, and that's, you know, it is, I mean, when you have a big explosion played touchdown, it's so damn quick sometimes, you're like, man, we were just on office. We got our fuel. Let's go. Right. But it's funny. The game has definitely changed.

You're right. What is the one thing that you, what's like the one bit of advice that you give for the fullback? like if you're going to be the team because that's a that's a that's a badge of honor because if you're on the team and you're a foolback like you ain't have no backup you don't have a backup you got to know a lot of shit it's like a mentality thing my foolback James Devlin like the fullback was always like the first guy in locker room fucking smelling salts while he's squatting like drinking cement for fucking breakfast like that's what the but that was his

job. He had to show that like, I'm part of the toughness team. And I am the toughness team. What's your advice for the fullback, the young fullback trying to come in and make his way on a team? I think the biggest thing is walk lightly, but carry a heavy bat. I didn't need to be anyone's friends. I said, we just work together. I'm not your friend. We just work together. You can buy yourself some friends. You have to be mean. You have to be mean. You have to be. physical. You, it's fullbacked, my advice is like, it's, yeah, it's some technique to it, but it's like, guys do not want to hit and head on when you see me coming and you see me, you have to make a decision. My advice to fullbacks, if you want to make this game come back and fullbacks become

an integral part of this game again, you have to be fearless. You have to run in there, whether it hurts or not, and say, I'm going to win this battle. I'm talking about cutting the leg when you block block up and through if you're going head to head when you hit you dip you lift and you create a new line screen when you stalemate as a fullback

and you stalemate and the linebacker step you in a hole you make the tailback now stop his feet you have to say I'm going to hit you I'm going to stay lower and I'm going to push you out of the way if you can push and create a new line of scrimmage now you give the tailback a two way cut

that's what I knew when I played fullback I could see the safety coming down And I knew if the safety came down He was playing force trying to knock the linebacker Make it spill inside I said if you know that If I could get to his inside shoulder Throw my head across

Now you have Ladanean safety and linebackers Playing air Because you created that space So it's about knowing your job Attention in details And played the game physical That's what I you know what I couldn't agree a thousand percent more

I'm not a foolback but I just always hung around fullbacks. And I remember when, you know, James ended up fucking, like, having a neck problem because that's what you had. If you're, and I would explain to the new foolback, okay, that's, this is going to happen. This is what you have,

this has to happen for you to be a proper fullback. You have to have neck problems. You have to go in and literally look like you're, you don't care about your, body. You don't. And that's what, because, you know, then we'd have some other new fullbacks come in. They try to go with the chest fur, you know what I mean? I'm like, dude. Now, Reggie Bush talks his iconic highlight runs. I think one of those runs was running nonstop for like two weeks on top 10 plays. And so everybody, you know, remembered that play, but specifically about, you know, me,

people thought I put the ball behind my back. And it wasn't a predetermined move. Yeah. It was just, I actually had the ball in the wrong hand. So, as you know, when you're running down the sideline, you've got to have that ball on the outside hand. Stiff arm. And so you can stiff arm, exactly. And I did not have the ball on my outside hand. I had it on the inside.

And really, when the ball is in my right hand and I got open field, that's where I'm comfort. That's where I'm really, like, getting and I'm taking off. So you're a right-hand guy? I'm a right-hand guy. You know what's crazy? I was always, I'm a right-handed guy, but I was always a left guy because when I was a kid,

In Pop Warner, I was the foreback, and I'd always go to the left. Really? So it trained me, I always used, because I'd always use it to the outside of the hand because they're always getting in your head. So I was like an orthodox, but give me how bad. I cut you. No, you good. And so what happened to me, my senior year in high school, I broke my wrist.

And I actually was catching a swing route. And when I went to stiff-armed a guy, he was already up on me. He was coming full speed and knocked my hand backwards. and I broke this bone right here, the navicular scapegoid, which is one of the bones that has, like, lowest blood supply. But obviously, I was young enough. Doctor put a cast on it. I played my entire football, my senior year,

with a cast on my left wrist. I think I remember that. And so I wasn't necessarily comfortable yet back with carrying that ball on my left hand. So there are a lot of games you might see when I'm in college, when I'm carrying the ball wrong, again, going down left side, but I got in that right hand because I just hadn't gained that comfort. level back with squeezing it and holding it tight, especially when you're fighting through traffic.

And so again, in this specific play, though, when I'm running down the sideline, I'm literally trying to outrun the safety. And what happened earlier in the game, I had a touchdown where I actually outran him, same exact spot, almost identical. And so the second time now I'm coming around, and I peek out a corner of my eye and I see his head down and he's just like digging. higher angle. He said he fucking got me last time. I got to go higher. I got to go higher. Exactly. And so he learned his lesson, right? So now he's going at a higher angle. He got his head down. He's digging. And so now I, after peeking, and I see that, I know I got to put my foot in the ground because I'm not going to outrun him. And so I stopped. And he was close enough to me

where if he actually reached his hand out, he probably could have hit the ball. And so naturally, when somebody's that close to you, it's either you squeeze it or if you're trying to get busy, you just do something crazy, right? Yeah, he got busy. And that's what came out, you know, and I think, you know,

when we play the game, there are a lot of things, and a lot of part, most of the game is really built on instincts. You know what I'm saying? And instincts and vision. And so for me in that moment,

it was all about instincts of vision and I just, my hand went back, I put my foot in the ground. I knew I was going to stop and reverse. I just didn't know I was going to put my hand like on the side, behind my back like that with the ball and cut behind them. And then outrun everyone.

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in tears saying about the mistress, what a mistake that was. To find out what happened, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Next up, Brandon Bolden on the tight-knit running back room. What was the legacy of the running backs room? I was the one constant. I've been through everybody. I was there with Woody, Shane, Reed, LG, Dion, Gillisly, James White, Sony, Michelle. We had like,

even Jackson, Stephen Jackson, Tyler Gaffney. We are, and I've seen everybody. Remindre Stevens and Damon Harris, I was there with everybody. Sexy Rexy.

I see Damon on CBS. Yeah, Dame's, Dame's doing it. Dan's got his kid now, too. So it's just like, he's hilarious. He is.

But the running back room, we always, since I first got there and Woody was kind of the one who started it bro, you don't have to do none of this shit by yourself. Like I'd never forget that conversation me and them had. I was like, what did you mean? He was like, if you don't remember the

fucking plays, bro, look to the sideline. We are helping you. And it was like preseason, I think there was the last preseason game. They had bought Jeff in because it was just me. It was me and Jeff. And that's when we started doing

like the two backs. and they called one play and I just knew I had the wheel but then I look at Jeff and Jeff's like no I got the wheel I was like well fuck it we both about to run the wheel as I'm starting off of my wheel I just see Shane go no

you got an oh so I'm running the O route on the fucking numbers to the field and Tom threw the fucking ball the other way I was so fucking happened I was like you know what your head did you no No, I do.

No clue. But that was the thing. And it was like from that point on, we always, we tried to eat together. We want to hang out together. I want to know you, your mom, your girl, you got kids, bring the kids over. And we kept that running back room as tight. Like, you remember, you didn't see one of us without the other ones. Yeah, always together.

Always. Now, Lashon McCoy on what makes a great running back. The bills, they still haven't had a thousand on rushing. So my thing is, where is your real impact? If it is good of a player Soon you leave The backup do the same thing Now how good are you really

Do you get them saying? Yeah But what if they Let's go What are the teams Because it had such a dominant back They were like Running the ball

They had such The offense was built around The running back Good Great question Great question And then all of a sudden They just couldn't

Win the Super Bowl They couldn't get to the Super Bowl So like fuck it We're getting rid of running back. We already had that insane running back. We got to evolve to what everyone else is out. Someone could say that. So the quotes.

So I told you that, I don't know if you heard me, they had Peyton Manning. Yeah. So when we go on to the game, who do you think we're trying to stop? You think we're about to pack the line of scrimmage up to stop Edwin-James? Are we going to stop Pay Main in that passing game? Yeah, make them one-dimensional. You stop the run always. Okay.

All right, well, if you think that, that's cool. You got to. It's not even about everything comes off the run game, whether you have one or not. I mean, I hear that, but then, like, there's some things that we throw the ball. We're throwing the ball. I personally haven't had a lot of open boxes running the ball. No, you didn't. But what I'm saying is if I had a pagan, I'm damn sure.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but no one put, no one put Egger and James in all-time great. He's a Hall of Famer. You saw my Hall of Fame backs, right? The difference you want it. He's a Hall of Fame. This you asked for. So we're going to some of these Hall of Fame.

I didn't know that you're in James in the Hall of Fame. He had a lot of yards, though, didn't he? He had a lot of carries, too. See, that's impressive, though. A lot of probably was healthy, too. That's a thing about running backs. He had a lot of 300-carry years. I've only had one.

That's impressive. A lot of- Guys get hurt. And we're seeing it right now. Guys can't run the ball? What's the number now? I don't know. They're saying every, it's like 360 snaps for a running back.

They're like, if they, if they, play that or they have those carries they're like going to get hurt that's what the analytics team is there well i don't know that so when you see a guy that can do it repetitively like that's why frank gore was crazy to me like that dude carried the ball so much longevity longevity is huge in running back but there's nobody that blocks burning frangor there's nobody that plays in the uh between the tackles bro he got good eyes downhill and he's always leaning forward i've never seen my better than him at that No, he makes the right read always, and he knows that to manipulate blocks,

the double teams, because they always had the double teams with them. The big boys are up. You know, and he, and you'll see a lot of, like, really, like, that's a difference between a pro back and a college back. College backs can get away with not making the right read. Comipulating the defense.

Yeah, they can run through arm tackles and stuff. When you get to a league, it's like there's a track that you have to run because of how the blocking schemes are. And I didn't know that until I got to the NFRA. because I was like, this guy's going to be hell of good. We got him. And then you see that he makes the cut, you know, three steps too early.

And the guy sheds off the block. And that's one that's a young back. The hardest thing is, damn, patient. There's a hole. I'm hitting it. No. Sell that shit more. Yeah.

Come off his heels. Right. They always say come off his ass. But it's pause. I always say, coach, hey, pause, dude. Yeah, I pause a lot of the stuff. Coach Be saying. Coaches be saying.

Now, Reggie Bush talks about the original Bush push. Hey, we just had Liner. talking about the Bush push. Did you? What's your perspective on that whole thing? My perspective. I want to see if it dials up. I want to see who's talking.

Matt 100% needed me on that play. 100% needed me. He was going backwards. He was going back. First of all, all right, let's just, when you look at what Jalen Hertz is doing now, they're trying to call it the brotherly love shove or the tush push, that's bullshit, all right?

It's the bush push, okay? All right. And it started on accident, all right? It was started because I was trying to fucking win the game and I just didn't want to lose. And that's that relentless pursuit, that relentless mindset. Like, you know, no matter what,

we're going to score this touchdown. And so before that play, we're in the huddle. It's a timeout because everything is going crazy. Matt just gets knocked out of bounds. First of all, Matt got knocked out of bounds and fumbled the ball out of bounds. So it was one of those plays where if he gets tackled in bounds, game over.

Game over. So he gets knocked out of bounds. Ball goes out, clock stops, even though Notre Dame tried to keep the clock running. And we get the timeout and we're in the huddle. And it's just, I just remember it just being chaos. And I'm just like, I can't fucking believe we could possibly lose this game right now. Like, I can't believe we're in this dog fight with Notre Dame. Like, and so I go to, I say to the man, I'm like, we. What are you going to do? And he's like, I'm going to sneak it. I'm like, fuck.

Literally, first thing came to my head, I'm like, oh, shit. Didn't he say like, yeah, dude. He said that you said like, yeah, man, I think you got it. That's not how I felt. I was like, yo. He said he was doing some hand signal things with you. He said, I got this. Audible, something.

Like, we might have to audible or something right now because I don't know if this is going to work. And so then we break the huddle. and all 11 players are lined up waiting for this QB sneak. I'm like, man, oh my God. And so Matt hikes the ball. He starts getting knocked backwards on a QB sneak. He's moving backwards. I'm like, oh, no, this ain't happening.

I just shove his ass, push him as hard as I could, bro, over the line. And then he kind of like does some little, like, falls. I'm like, you didn't even, like, get your head down and like. Dude, you got to have a knack for the end zone. I'm so glad that we have the Philadelphia Eagles perfecting it now because you see what it's supposed to look like. That's what it's supposed to look like. Ours ain't looked like that.

He kind of looked like a dead fish. He was doing one of those moves he learned in the ballroom dancing class. He was taking a little. It was a dead fish move. It was the ballroom dancing that he was taking that year only. He slid up in there. But again, he 100% needed that. that push over that line.

And I had, I didn't even know it was illegal at the time. I was just like, we got to win this game. Joy is essential and it's also elusive. But now, there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence, Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotby. If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy, tune into these candid, uplifting, and moving on-air chat.

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And it gets worse. It's Vacate to Vacation Week on the Ok Storytime podcast, where she caught him buying gifts on Amazon, and then taped the 10-page letter inside his luggage before he flew out. So she planted evidence before he even took off? And spoiler, Sophia, two years later, karma hits so hard. He's calling his ex-wife in tears saying about his mistress. What a mistake that was. To find out what happened, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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