Games with Names - Super Bowl IX with Ed O'Neill | Steelers vs. Vikings

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

Ed O'Neill is in studio! We're breaking down the iconic Super Bowl IX between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Minnesota Vikings. Ed joins us on the couch (1:01). We go back to January of 1975 (40:04). We dive into these rosters (49:33). We get into the game (1:08:29). We score it (1:31:02). We wrap it up by hitting the hotline (1:37:18). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're a little biased here. We got six. Six in 20 years. Oh, yeah, well, you know, that's it. That's the record. It's not four touchdowns in 66, but... On today's episode, legendary actor starring in two of the greatest sitcoms of all time, Ed O'Neill. Hold that thought.

We're covering super bowl nine pittsburgh still is for some minnesota vikings this was not too long after i got cut yeah so i was still following things pretty closely how mean was mean joe green mean as hell. My whole idea was, knock the shit out of you, and I'll progress. Instead of tackling, I would hit him with a forearm.

It was like kamikaze football. You would have been a great special teamer. Probably. A good doggy, bad doggy training system. Who's the coolest cameo you guys ever had? Oh my God, that's impossible. Impossible. We had Lawrence Taylor,

Kenny Stabler, Bubba Smith. We had a thing where we come up against each other. It was a goal line stand. And when we rehearsed it, he couldn't pull back. It was like getting in with an actual grizzly bear.

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Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. That's Kyler. And we are on the search to find the greatest game of all time. Jack's back in North Carolina today. He's still stat correcting, though, folks though folks yeah he's blowing up my he's blowing up the phone yeah he's with us he blowing it up he blowing it up on today's episode we're covering super bowl nine the

pittsburgh still is for some minnesota purple people eater vikings defense line with former The Pittsburgh Steelers versus a Minnesota Purple People Eater Vikings defense line with former Steeler and legendary actor, star of FX's Clipped, Ed O'Neill. On this episode, we get into talking old Polk High football. You guys know. Four touchdowns in 1966. In one game. In one game. In one game.

In one game. City championship. City championship. What it was like starring in two of the greatest sitcoms of all time. We get into talking Steelers. You get an inside perspective. I mean, he was on Chuck Knoll's first Steelers team and training camp. Mean Joe Green's first year, too.

Mean Joe Green. We ask him, is Mean Joe Green's first year too. Mean Joe Green. We ask him, is Mean Joe Green that mean? You get the answer. Tune in and you'll know. And then we wrap it up with hitting the old hotline. Great episode. Look forward to having you guys listen. Let's go.

January 15th, 1975. Tulane Stadium, New Orleans, Louisiana. Steel Curtain versus the Purple People leaders for all the marbles. On a cold, wet afternoon in the Big Easy, a dynasty is born before our eyes. This is Super Bowl IX. That was great. Welcome to Games with Names.

We have a very special guest, an idol of not just me, my father, anyone who's over 30, their parents all grew up with him in our household. And then he went on to go on and do another crazy sitcom that took over. And it was like the best sitcom modern day. Married with Children. We have Ed O'Neill. Thanks for joining us. Thank you. My pleasure julian we got a kyler over here we got leah and jackson oh leah i didn't meet you actually and today we are looking at superbowl nine the pittsburgh steelers versus the minnesota vikings a classic game now why why do you like

this game i like all the superbowls yeah you know and this was not too long after i got cut yeah so i was still following things pretty closely and you know i this was not too long after i got cut yeah so i was still following things pretty closely and you know i knew all about franco harris and those guys because they came a year after i got cut and when i got cut i said i got cut i i had a cup of coffee with them basically that's about it but uh yeah so i was still you know sitting in the bar with my buddies watching these games yeah and glad I wasn't playing at that point. Yeah, but you had to be vested because you got drafted with Mean Joe Green. You got drafted with a lot of these pro football Hall of Famers.

And so you got to enjoy. I mean, it was Chuck Knoll's first year, right? It was Knoll's first year. And so you had his first training camp, and you got to know these people. So you get vested because you have relationships with these guys, huh? Yeah. I mean, it was very intense. You've been to those camps.

I mean, I didn't make a whole lot of friends. It was a job. Yes. Try to make a team. But it was fun. I actually enjoyed it. Yeah. As opposed to college.

I mean, I don't know why you would think it would be the opposite. But I actually enjoyed the training down there. Yeah. What people don't realize, because I was in a very similar situation as you. You were a priority free agent. So they signed you. Yes, exactly. I was a seventh round draft pick, which is the last round of our draft,

which some would argue it's better to be a free agent because you get two years contract instead of locking in for a third. And you were a quarterback. I was a quarterback. But the mental aspect when you're on the team and there's 90 guys, they got to cut it down to 53. Did you used to play the numbers game? You're sitting in training camp. Well, they're going to keep this guy they're going to keep that guy yeah i had a i

had a situation where you know i don't know if yours was the same as as ours but ours the stealers they would put a board up and if your name wasn't on it you were cut oh so it's kind of a nice way to do it you know your name you don't see your name as this guy got cut that you know people don't know you they don't even know you got cut and you it's completely changed nowadays yeah nowadays you'll be sitting in a locker room and they have this guy we everyone calls the turk it's probably like uh he's like an offensive assistant of assistant of another assistant and he comes up to your locker and he taps on your shoulder he says hey head coach wants to see you bring your playbook oh no i had that oh see they went to they went through when it started out okay they had so many guys yeah they cut the way i just mentioned but then

if you got along some then it turned into uh oh by the way uh coach snow would like to see you in his office i'd bring your playbook that That's what happened to me. Jeez. Yeah. But you know how nice they are to you when you go in there. You know, we're going a different route. You're just not in the plan. Well, with me, it was, well, you never played outside linebacker, and you're trying to make the team and learn the position at the same time.

That's hard to do. I said, yeah. He said, well, I think I remember it as, well, you can go to the Eagles if you want to. They'll give you a good look. We'll rent a car for you. You can drive down the PA Pike. But I need to know right now. And I don't know what happened to my thinking. It was like, you're going to what?

You want to drive a car to Philadelphia? No. I said, I'm done. I'm finished. Thanks a lot. Wow. That was it. But I was getting sick of it, to be honest with you. I played for two colleges. I had some knee problems. And I just, I don't know what it was. I didn't even like coaches much. I liked Noel. Well, I didn't get to know him much. But he was a real gentleman. And I thought he was a well i didn't get to know him much but he was a real gentleman and i thought he was a nice guy he was but i had coaches in college i didn't like at all yeah in high school too i had to start

thinking maybe it was my fault it was to that point but i was finished i said i'm he said well what are you going to do i said i don't know but not this and then i remember when i went to my uh back to the dorm room i had a you know i His name was Clarence Oliver, San Diego State. He made the team as the defensive back. And I think he only played one year. I think he broke his back. But he made it. But I went in, and he was like, what happened?

I said, what do you think? So I was backing up, and the guy came in. They said, well, the car's out there. Where do you want to go? And I said, what do you think? So I was backing up. And the guy came in. They said, well, the car's out there. Where do you want to go? And I said, Pittsburgh. I'm not from Pittsburgh. But I knew a guy. I knew a friend in Pittsburgh.

So I said, no, I'm going to Pittsburgh. And he says, OK, we'll drive you to Pittsburgh. You know, it's Latrobe, PA. So he said, we'll swing by the stadium on the way out. Because your cleats are there in the locker. And we've got a lot of swag for you. We've got great jerseys and T-shirts and hats and shorts. And I said, I don't want any of that shit.

He said, you don't want the, it's good stuff. I don't want it. Am I going to wear it? I'm not wearing it. I don't want the cleats either. I'm not going to use them anymore. So he took me into Pittsburgh and I had this rudimentary idea of where my friend lived.

So I didn't want to go home. It was what it was. Why didn't you want to go home? I mean, that was all screwed up. I thought, I don't want to go home and have to explain this. I 100%. So I said, it was still in the summertime. So I directed him up a street and i saw a bar it was a local bar with the door open the summertime the doors no air you know door open

i said right here my friend lives right around that bar just drop me off here you sure you know they kind of said yeah give me the bag adios so i went in the bar and it was like two o'clock in the afternoon and there were like a couple of you know locals it was a local joint yeah so i walk in i'm 23 years old they don't know me i'm a stranger in this neighborhood and they're like what's this good i order a beer and they got the tv up high you know wall. And we're watching it, and the news comes on, and they're showing Armstrong walking on the moon. Wow. That's when I got cut.

And I'm thinking, well, somebody had a good day. He had the golf club, right? Yeah. And I'm watching it. And then they went to the sports. And of course, it's Pittsburgh. So they go, linebacker Ed O'Neill released today from the Steelers. And there's my picture. And these guys are in the bar. And they look. They go, you're Ed O'Neill. Yeah. Yeah. And they said, your money's

no good here. Now they're all buying me drinks. I end up at three o'clock in the morning in some, some car with some girl with a state hoopie pulling me over, you know, I don't, I don't even know my name at this point. And the guy looks in and I, I think I had my shirt off and you you know, I was almost naked. Yeah. And I'm driving, though. And he says, you know, I had my driver's license. He said, did you get cut today from Pittsburgh? I said, yep. He said, miss, can you drive?

She said, yeah. He's just driving around. And he said, can you drive this guy home? And she said, I'll take him. Says he knows somebody. And he's letting him go. Because it you know it was pittsburgh pittsburgh steelers they love them steelers even if you got cut it doesn't make any difference you're still part of the team you're still part of the team anyway that's my i don't think i've told that story ever

that so you were a defensive lineman in college? I played middle guard on defense. And I played defensive end and I played tight end in college. I just went around like that. So what was the, you said that you mentioned

you were playing outside linebacker in Steelers camp? What was that? That's all they had for me. I know, I couldn't be a cornerback. I wasn't quick enough. I mean, I ran a 4.740 in 68. That's my number, though. That's fast. I was about 230.

4.7? 4.7, then. 230? That's like a 260 guy running 4.6 now. Probably. But you guys didn't train for it. That was fast then. I don't know.

You only had a couple four, four guys on the team. Well, you know, when I did it, I narrated the thing on Peyton Manning, you know, that timeline. And it was so nicely written. I was very impressed with it. And this was not long ago. And I was struck by the fact that he was coached and you were too, right? Your dad was a coach. My dad was a coach.

And I mean, I was never coached. I don't think I was really ever coached. We just played pickup ball. And when we went to high school, there was coaches there, but it's a long story they didn't really coach me yeah it was just my whole idea was knock the shit out of you and i'll progress so it wasn't the best way to learn football the game has changed now because that used to be the old that used to be the ultimate equalizer yeah of the guy who even then it didn't work right even then it didn't work right. Even then it didn't work right. Because you could hit a guy, like on a reverse, say they run around and you're in and you've got a clean shot. Yeah. And instead of tackling him, I would hit him with a forearm.

And sometimes they wouldn't go down. They'd spin and keep going. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was like that. It was like kamikaze football. You would have been a great special teamer. Probably. I used to do that.

Back when I first got in the league, they used to have wedges on the kickoff. Now the whole new thing, kickoff rules, practice kickoff, but it'll be electric. There'll be a lot of touchdowns. But the old days, you'd have three or four guys and your job was to run 60 yards and you hit the 320 pound guard that's in the wedge full speed it's like there's this guy bubba ventrone he's a special he's special team coordinator i think for uh indianapolis that dude used to run down he was 205 pounds he he could run fast he was probably a four three guy and i swear he

knocked himself out at least every game at once yeah but he did his job yeah he was a badass at doing it yeah there were guys when i was playing that you know that there were hitters today i mean the game has really gotten so much more sophisticated i I mean, really. I mean, athletically, size-wise, speed-wise. And even when I played, it was a lot faster than college. Yeah. You know, like I'd get in a scrimmage, and some plays I never even got touched because I wasn't where I should be.

They'd leave you alone. If you got in the action, that's where you got hit. Well, there's rules. Yeah. I mean, it's like with anything. in the action that's where you get hit though there's rules yeah and it yeah through any i mean it's like with anything over time the evolution the technology the information the studying of the older habits the studying of the newer athlete the new penalties the new rules everything dictates the type of game let's jump into how how did it go down when you sign as a priority free agent you went to

youngstown after going to ohio university which i was a mac daddy i went to kent state used to play against ohio actually went to a yeah my i went to kent state i went up there i'd watch games you know i watched oh you play kent state somebody won in a field goal i forget i think oh you won in a field goal like 51 yard field I think OU won in a field goal, like 51-yard field goal or something. It was unbelievable. And I was happy, but I couldn't show it because I was with my sisters at Kent State. Yeah.

But Kent State was a nice school. It was cool. Who was your coach? It's a strange coach. I had Doug Martin. No, I'm thinking of a different guy. Well, the cool thing, thing so you probably you're 69 saban went to kent state i think he was out there 70 he was 72 was his last year he was on the mac

championship team the last mac championship team before i got there but uh ohio was always like the did they have cool halloweens at back then? Yes. Because that was like the thing. And St. Paddy's Day was a big day. Yeah. They dyed the Hocking River green. Yeah. Oh, man, it was suicide. It was a fun school. It was.

And a beautiful Hocking River Valley. And all the buildings, I mean, it looked like it was made in 1800. It was really nice. I even got in trouble i mean trouble with the coaches playing there because when i came from youngstown our manner of playing youngstown was what we talked about and it wasn't that way at ou for example i did very well at middle garden high school because i was only about 180 but i I was fast. I was very quick. And I'd play over the center, and I'd bang them.

And depending on the feel, I'd go, or I'd shoot a gap, blow a gap. When I got to Ohio U, they had a really good middle guard that had graduated. His name was Lance Tigger. It's a great name. And he was not a big guy, but he was very good player. And his method was he would sit back on his haunches at the snap like a baseball catcher. And he would kind of use his forearms or his hands. Two gap.

Yeah, as a shiver. And then he could go. But I was long and I couldn't do that. I was on all four, and I had to be going forward. And they kept making me play like. They wanted me to play like him. I said, I'm not him. I'm not built like him. So that was my right off the bat. I was starting as a freshman. Yeah.

But it was illegal, so I couldn't actually get in the game. But in spring ball, I was first team. And then didn't you, because you played freshman ball, you couldn't start. Didn't you used to play against Roger Stahlbach? Well, I played against Stahlbach in an actual game. Yeah. Explain, what was that? He was, let's see, that would have been 67.

It was a military game, right? Yeah, he was at Pensacola Naval Station. Yeah. He was doing his bit. Naval Station. Yeah. He was doing his, his bit after Annapolis and they had like two or three all American receivers. I think one was from USC and one was somewhere else. So he, just for him to throw to, you know, and, uh, that was the longest goddamn game I ever played in my life. threw every play and if you did if he didn't throw he just ran around back there chasing him couldn't chase him and i finally hit him out

of bounds illegally because i chased him chased him chased him and he stepped out and i just kept coming and it was right on his sidelines and there was a guy named lynch who was the heavyweight boxing champ of annapolis oh wow he wanted to kill to kill me because he was on the sidelines. Oh, yeah. And I said, hey, man, I chased this son of a bitch. I'm going to hit him. I'm good friends with Roger now. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. He just came and talked to our team a few years ago. We'd always have someone influential that has had a lot of success in pro sport or something to come talk to the team and he he was a interesting guy that just you could tell he dudley do-right crosses his t's dots his eyes you could just that and he was you could tell he's a leader yeah he'd say gosh darn it gee whiz i'm out there and i'm you know i'm you know my mouth is. Youngstown, Ohio, baby. Youngstown. But he's a wonderful guy.

He is. And that guy was such a great, great. He's the best I ever played over or played against. Yeah. There's no doubt he was the best. I couldn't believe it. All right, here we go. It's Cam Jordan from New Orleans Saints.

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have been gathered into one book. Curious to know more? Pre-order Cabinet of Curiosities, available November 12th, wherever books and audiobooks are sold. Learn more over at GrimAndMild.com slash curiosities. So, how did you, who was your team growing up in Youngstown? Was that because the Browns were really good then? The Giants.

Because of football. Because that's what you saw on TV probably? I saw the violent world of Sam Huff. Yeah. You remember that? No. Oh my God, I'm so old. It was one of the first things out in this format. And they had a linebacker from West Virginia who went to the Giants, Sam Huff.

Yeah. And we all know Sam Huff. I don't. You do. Okay. So it was called The Violent World of Sam Huff. And they miked him. No one had ever been miked before.

And it was like an hour-long special of him middle linebacker and that got us all going man it was you know it was great yeah yeah and talking bullshit and everything you know talking shit it was great so that so but even before that i don't know why i must have been my dad somebody like the giants and uh and we didn't like the browns yeah i don't know and i went up to training camp i had my dad taking me up because it was hiram college well you know yeah from kent to watch the summer workouts and jim brown was playing oh wow so i in my life i've never asked for an autograph in my life not before or since and i was i think 12 and uh he came out you know he was like you know it was like one of those

dog day afternoons right and he's sitting there and he's got his pads here and he's just and he had that mohawk the guy looked like he was great you know the guy was amazing looking so my dad said go and get an autograph i went over to him and he looked up at me. He saw me coming. It wasn't a happy look. And I said, autograph? He said, not now. Walked away. I never asked for another autograph in my life. And later, I met Jim and got to be kind of friendly with him much later.

I think when one of the elections, I ran into him, and I told him that. And he said, oh, god damn, I'm so sorry. I used to do that shit. In Jim and I told him that and he said, Oh God damn, I'm so sorry. You know, I used to do that shit. And Jim's defense though. Like you said, it was probably the second,

the second practice. It was, it was the second practice. He's been running there. They're running those guys like dogs back in those. That's when training camp, you look at a training camp. Nowadays you laugh.

I had double days early in my career for three years. Then we jumped over to the new rule where you can't have one every five days. And it's changed. That's when training camp, these guys, they used to get these guys in crazy shape. They'd work them to death. There was no analytics on loadage or anything. It was more like when the coach got tired of yelling, that's when practice was over. That was about it.

In fact, that day they scrimmaged and brown you know of course everyone's watching jim brown and frank ryan was the quarterback you remember frank ryan and uh i'm watching jim brown and he wasn't doing anything i mean he'd come out of the huddle he'd be in the huddle the huddle would break he'd hardly move yeah Take one or two steps. And then he'd just like, he wouldn't even get in a three-point. Maybe, very slowly. Ball would be snapped, and he'd walk off to one side or the other. And they'd either hand it to a running back, or Ryan would throw a pass. He didn't move.

And I thought, he's not even practicing. So one play, he walked off to the side. Ryan went back to throw. and then he drifted out and he got a little screen out to the left right by us yeah and he turned he's coming hard like running towards us and then he's cutting it up and there's two guys coming to hit him with the sidelines one went low he hit the guy with his knee and the other guy came high and he punched the guy in the neck. I mean hard and dropped both of them and took two more steps and stepped out of bounds. And then he walked back.

That was Jim Brown's thing. Oh my God. It was something to see, man. Was he the best? He was bigger than those guys. He was two 25 to 30, 100%.

And he was faster than his waist was this big. Was he the best football player you ever saw that i ever saw yeah there's no no question belichick talks about how good jim brown was yeah and i knew lawrence taylor pretty well you know lawrence did our show yeah and he was with us for a week that's the best way to play football have Have a show where you're in that ridiculous uniform there and you never get hit. Pokai? Pokai.

It is a little chilly in here. Jack know a little bit. Oh, you got that? Oh, my God. What are you talking about? That's great. What are you talking about? That's so funny.

My dad is the Al Bundy of 12-year-old Pop Warner football coaches. He never played football, but he thinks he's Al Bundy of the coaches of Pop Warner of 12-year-olds. So for the audio listeners, Jules just put on a Polk High varsity jacket. No, not a Polk High. That's amazing. The Polk High jacket. i didn't see that over there what memories do you think about when you first see this jacket well we had so much fun on that show i mean that show it was a crazy show the the writers uh creators of that show

the jewish guy from from brooklyn and a black guy from North Carolina. And together they were like, they look like gas station attendants, but they were brilliantly funny guys and, and just completely out to lunch the whole thing, you know, but we would laugh so hard. I mean, it was, it was really hysterical. And you know, every year we thought we were going to go, you know, like every season at the two, three shows, they're going to tell us to go home yeah and it just kept going now it was an 11 year run you guys had which spanned a lot of my childhood but getting in that routine that that day-to-day life when you know

because i remember being with gronk for 10 years you know when you come to work he knows when i'm in a bad mood you know when they're in a bad mood you're in the locker room then you got to go out to practice and perform and you know what i mean did you have any of those moments where you kind of just knew what was going on well how was the day-to-day life well it's very similar to playing ball i mean without the contact yeah it's you know you know and of course it's it's guys and gals yeah so that's a that's obviously different but you're still performing you know you've got a live audience and so you kind of it's a teamwork thing you really do have to have that kind of sense of a team and uh you know when one's down you try to pick them up and you know yeah it's it's very

similar actually and also the discipline that you that you do develop you know somehow playing football help me you know because i you know like even now this thing i just did fx promotes like you can't believe you know and and i i do it so ed is talking about the new show that premiered i think this week yesterday i watched the first episode clipped yeah first two episodes came out on hulu awesome story about the whole ending of the empire of the sterling yeah the family clippers the clippers owner we all remember that in 2013 you know it's i watched that but i only watched one episode yeah that's that's hours that kind of sets the table yeah but that first episode i mean it's la you know it's la and all this and all the underbelly of la and oh it is yeah and it was really cool like you got me to forget that you were al bundy

modern family dad yeah i'm glad you know and it's called good acting that's called you know good acting i guess you made me believe you sit down they give you the piece and then they make you they did something to your skin like apparently this guy had sort of bumpy something in his hand like he liked the sun. Yeah. And then the glasses and all that. And then I listened to his voice, which is kind of, I wasn't really trying to imitate.

You couldn't, but sort of a pedantic way of speaking. You know, like I-N-G endings were pronounced and a little whiny, you know. You know, he talked like that. But that's all I did. Yeah. And everything was in the script the script was really good how do you remember your lines when you go through the script oh is it hard because i've had some cameos and i get so nervous it's hard when i'm learning a script but here's what you do you do you just learn scene by scene so in other words if you're

doing two scenes in a day or whatever your wherever your job is you just learn that scene and you just do that scene and then the next day you have another scene so you take it you know it's designed to create a story at the end of the day you don't have to worry about down the road you know that's someone else's job so like on wednesday install it's just first and second down on thursday it's third down exactly and then friday it's red area exactly and then we just put it all together at the end of the day you're a genius you know well there's a big trend in hollywood with a lot of sports scripted content happening in the world are you talking about my experience yeah i did

a movie called little giants my favorite which is great that's where i met uh john madden because john's in it yeah yeah i'll tell you funny this is i mean i'm i'm just all over the place but when i met john i you know i was just high high and oh god this is hilarious actually the first time i met john was in new york city And I'm walking up the street by Central Park with a friend of mine named J.J. Johnston, who's a legendary guy, had been in prison, came out, became an actor, one of David

Mamet's guys. One of my greatest characters in the world that I knew. And we're walking up and he's got to buy suitcases because he's going with Al Pacino to London to do American Buffalo in London. And he didn't have any luggage because he's from Chicago, but he just took a bag. So he got this cheap suitcases.

I'm lugging one. He's lugging the other. We're going back to where he's staying. And I hear him go, John! John! Jesus Christ, it's John! John! And Madden's a catty-corner.

He goes, hey, what are you doing? Come here, you motherfucker! He comes over, he says, how are you doing? He's a big guy, John's a big guy. How are you doing? Good to see you. He says, yeah, it's good to see you, kid. You're looking great. Where are you headed? I'm just going down here.

I got to meet a guy for, I got a little meeting with some guys here about something. You know Ed O'Neill? He said, no, I know who you are. I haven't had the pleasure. He said, Ed, John Madden, the great John Madden, he loves to say hello. I said, okay. But he's looking at me like, he looks scared. And I thought, what the hell? Because we look like muggers. You know, we look like this guy if you saw him. So now John says, hey, man, I got to go. And he said, go ahead, John, lovely to see you. Go ahead, kid.

Hey, great guy. He goes down the street. I said, how do you know John Mann? He said, I don't. John, he was terrified. He thought we were going to mug him. So now much later, I'm working with him, you know, in Little Giants. And then I did that timeline thing years after that.

So by this time, I know his son, Mike, who's the greatest guy. You know, Mike's a great guy. So Mike called John and said, I saw this thing timeline on Peyton's comeback with Wes Walker and the neck injury. So he sent it to John. So John sent it to Mike, and then Mike called me. He said he thinks it's one of the best things he ever saw on pro football. Wow.

I mean, the way it was written. I narrated it. Yeah. You got to check it out. So it's only an hour long. So anyway, I was interviewed about it. And I said, you know, I was never emotional about quitting football. Never.

I didn't miss it. I didn't give a shit about it. And I'm narrating this thing. And I'm almost finished with the narration we almost went all the way through and it's like not quite twilight in the in the show it's you know it's the sun is set but it's still light yeah and they're in this abandoned stadium i think tennessee or somewhere and he's he's doing a mock drive down the field with his receivers, Welker and so-and-so, the running back, and he's making up linebackers.

Watch the Mike line. I never heard that term, by the way, Mike linebacker. But he's saying that, and he's doing the Omaha thing, and they're driving down the field, and it's kind of relaxed. And I'm talking about it, and the dialogue is, there's no place in the world he'd rather be than here right now doing this something like that and i actually got emotional i mean the the the memories of playing football with my friends as a kid and everything it was like almost overwhelming i can

hardly talk and i thought where did this come from? You know? Yeah. I loved it. It was great. You don't lose that. You know, you think you get away from it, but you really don't. No, and that's what you miss the most. Yeah, that's what you miss the most. You know, is your friends and your camaraderie.

Yeah, exactly. The locker room time. I mean, I miss competing at a high level. I miss. Oh, well, you did it at the highest level. Yeah, you miss that, but you can find that in other ways. Yeah. It's the real, you know, getting yelled at with your boys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Winning a game with the boys, the flight home after a road victory with the boys, you know, and the team, it was awesome. You know, I met Brady when he was at Michigan. Yeah. And they were playing the Rose Bowl. They were out in Pasadena. And I got a call from my ex-high school coach named Jerry Hanlon. He was now the defensive backfield coach for Michigan.

And he said, hey, you know, I was doing married. He said, would you come out to meet the guys it's like two or three days before the game I forget if they were planned but yeah sure so I drive out and I meet the team and I meet Brady and you know he was he was he was just handing off yeah in Michigan you can't imagine he had to come back in in the the Orange Bowl the next year I think it's Alabama was that it yeah okay he would come back in in the the orange bowl the next year i think it's alabama was that it yeah okay he would come back kid yeah but i mean he was and then i did a pilot with him with uh oh god what was her name a beautiful girl from texas anyway it was i don't want to

throw any names it was no it was jessica no uh i was playing her father yeah and uh and it was her story was and i was a you know i was along for the series if it went which i prayed to god it wouldn't go after we shot it but they had brady there and they had the linebacker errington yeah from penn state and they had the kid a kid from dallas and uh and they were like so happy it was like i think tom had won one super bowl yeah and uh that's when you know i said i met you at uh pasadena he didn't you know oh yeah yeah he oh yeah did you no he knew he knew but it was uh he was just beginning really you know although he won that one super bowl yeah he said i may never win another you know but he did six more amazing crazy just amazing your your john madden story reminds me a lot of we had eric stone street on the show we did a

kansas city chief game he has almost the exact same story as you meeting john madden but meeting tom brady it was him and brent veach who's the uh gm of the kansas city chiefs brett used eric as a means to talk to tom brady oh it's so funny they call him two inch or something yeah two inch two inches just to say hi and then went back two inch stone street's funny he's amazingly funny and he's he's a very creative guy very creative i mean amazingly so and he he's got a knowledge of everything about the Chiefs. He can pinpoint. And the Royals, of which he's a part owner now. Yeah.

Is he a part owner? He bought a little share, yeah. I don't know how much. He didn't tell me. Jeez. He's a great guy. He is a really great guy. He's a great guy.

You know who you should play? I just thought about it. You played Sterling. You got to play Chuck Knoll. I mean, all these little. got to play Chuck Knoll. I mean, all these little. Could you play Chuck Knoll? I could play Chuck Knoll because, I mean, I don't look like Chuck Knoll. I didn't look like Sterling.

But, you know, Knoll was a wine connoisseur, too. You know, he was a red wine guy. Yeah. A very, very sophisticated guy. Not like your normal coach. Quiet. But, you know, almost like he reminded me of like uh some kind of bird of prey i mean in his look yeah he had the eyes like like a hawk that pointed

nose thing yeah him and bradshaw you know they didn't they didn't get along at all yeah i think they i think they cleared it up at the end though and he didn't like hanredy for some reason terry terry was the coolest guy you ever would meet you know remember him yeah he was a notre dame guy yeah he played this year a little bit terry did yeah in this 2000s 1974 season it was kind of a sidearm thing but it was three quarterbacks play this year man little giants what about wayne's world i used to love i loved you in wayne's world i loved wayne's world i i did that i just did that as a favor to uh our my manager's company uh brilstein gray they produced that movie

and it was all about you know uh dana carvey and uh mike myers and and in fact when i did it they weren't getting along and they you know it was almost like laverne and shirley yeah one would come out then the other would come out they'd do the scene then they go back you know it was like i knew both of them yeah because we were we had the same managers that's awesome though that because i've had that i've had teammates where they don't get along we don don't get along. Yeah, sure. But to come together to make something good. And that's hard. That's hard.

That's real acting. But it's cool. That's real acting. Mike wrote that thing for Mike. I was that whack job that ran Stan Mikita's donut shop. Yeah. And I remember I had that one speech in the dead of winter when you stab a man, you can see the steam rising from the wounds.

Mike was seriously. It was funny. What was Mike? Mike Miners. Oh, because he wrote that? He wrote that. He wrote my part. And Chris Farley.

I knew Chris. How was he? Any Farley stories? I'll tell you the greatest Farley. I knew Chris. How was he? Any Farley stories? I'll tell you the greatest Farley story you'll ever hear in your life. John Lovitz had a Super Bowl party. And he lived in Brentwood. And a bunch of guys, everybody went. And Chris came in late.

Just before the kickoff, he came bursting in the door. You know, he made those entrances where he's out of gas. Where's it going on? Youoff, he came bursting in the door. You know, he made those entrances where he's out of gas. Where's it going on? You know, he came flying in. And he was coming from rehab in Venice, like his 15th trip. Yeah. And they had a big spread. It was like a Mexican motif, you know, with the food.

And everybody had eaten or had a plate, and everybody was going into the screening room for the kickoff. So Farley runs over to the table, and he's piling up food on his plate. He's in a hurry. And Lovett says, leave a little something for the rest of us, Chris. And we all went in and shut the door, but Chris was out there. Kickoff, it's the first series. We're watching whatever, I can't remember what game.

And the door opens and Chris comes walking in and he had taken a loaf of Italian bread and he had cut it lengthwise. And then he put every condiment that was on the table on the sandwich, you know, pepperoncini, tomato everything and in between he had sandwiched john lovett's beloved kitty cat live cat in the sandwich and he was holding it and he walked in said i'll eat any fucking thing i want to on super bowl sunday and love it screamed ah you know the Super Bowl Sunday. And Lovett screamed, ah! You know, the cat. The cat was like this, you know, in the sandwich. Is everyone dying? Oh, my God.

Can you imagine? Oh, my God. I can't imagine. But he was the sweetest guy. You know, a lot of people don't know that his father was 500 pounds. I'm not making 500 pounds up. He was 500 pounds and a very successful businessman. But Chris had that fat gene. He couldn't be thin. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, it is. I have a picture. I must have left my phone in the car. That's okay.

We had him recreate it, the sandwich with the cat, without the condiments, but he did. And I've got the photo of him, you know, with the cat. You'll have to get it. Yeah. Now, we'll be right back after this quick break. All right, here we go. It's Cam Jordan from New Orleans Saints,

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Listen to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We gotta jump, we gotta, we should probably jump into the segment where we get into 1975, but... Oh, fuck 1975. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

We like to always, we always go back... I know, I know i'm kidding you yeah uh with uh where the game took place let's go back to around january 12 1975 uh number one movie towering inferno i believe they made a remake you don't like remakes i've heard no and i don't like that one either i mean that it was those movies you know i don't watch Newman, Fred Astaire, Faye Dunaway. It was Newman and Steve McQueen, right? They hated each other when they shot that. McQueen used to count lines.

He's got more lines than me. Newman didn't give a shit. Yeah. Well, they'd say, well, okay, well, give them two more. They'd write, you know, so, okay, let's go. Jeez. Divas. I mean, I guess you get some diva i mean oh yeah they're they're there if tom didn't throw me the ball at least five times in the first

quarter i was pit number one song mandy by mary manilow that was a fun that was a fun song it still has still holds its own yeah man he was he was good around this time wheel of fortune debuts the jefferson jefferson's premieres are you will a fortune guy or jeopardy guy neither but the jeffersons was written co-written by michael moye who did married with children he wrote i forgot what he wrote a couple of the parts on that. He also wrote for Laverne and Shirley. Jeez. And I heard Modern Family,

the Modern Family people did Frasier. Frasier, Golden Girls, Just Shoot Me, a number of others. Reboot, too, which I thought was really good, but just didn't catch on. The reboot, oh, of Frasier. No, the reboot, the show reboot on Hulu last year. Oh, yes, I thought that was good, too.

Yeah, it just... Had that kid from The Partner, Poole, and that kid's funny. And Johnny Knoxville was in it, and he was actually really good. Yeah, no, I was shocked when they canceled that. Paul Allen and Bill Gates founded Microsoft out in Mountain View, was it Mountain View, California?

Let me look. I think it was, yeah. Up by Seattle, wasn't it? No, I'm from this area. I'm from Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley, right. They all went out to Stanford. I thought that was Seattle.

But that's where their headquarters is. Yeah, that's it. On the lake, you had that house. Beautiful. This is saying Albuquerque, New Mexico. Maybe Albuquerque, New Mexico. We were completely off. We were off godfather godfather two young frankenstein jaws jaws i oh my god that movie scared it scared everyone yeah it like yeah all great movies all those that's what movies are

movies yeah godfather two was great with dinero itiro. It's the Brando, right? Yeah. Yep. The third one lost me a little bit in The Godfather. Did you like it? The third one wasn't as good. No. I liked it.

Just what didn't matter. 2 was awesome. You got De Niro. You got to see the. It had some good performances in there. Yeah. But it wasn't as good. It wasn't as good.

What about in the sports world? 75, 74, Super Bowl champions were the Pittsburgh Steelers. NFL MVP was Kenny Stabler. The snake. The snake. I met Kenny. Kenny did Married with Children. He was a really cool guy.

Oh, I bet. He came on the same. We had. That's when I met Lawrence Taylor, Kenny Stabler. Who's Bubba Smith? Bubba Smith. What is it? Who? The name?

No. Yeah. The name Bubba Smith. No, Bubba Smith. Bubba Smith. Remember Bubba? I don't. Bubba Smith. The defensive end from the Colts.

6'7", 315. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got him right here. Played for Michigan State. Okay. What year? I don't know. I forget.

Around my time. Yeah. Michigan State, 64 to 66. Yeah. Was drafted first overall. One of one. Oh, man. He was a 1967 draft to the Colts.

My dad loved the Rams. He did the show. He did Married with Children. He played Spare Tire Dixon. He's the one that stole my trophy out of the trophy case, and we had the one-on-one. Oh, I had to make it in slow motion. No, I had to change it to slow motion.

I did this. We had a thing where we'd come up against each other. It was a goal line stand. It had been a contested call in the championship game where I crossed the line. They called it a touchdown, and he swore I never got over. So now, all these years later, we're going to do it again, and that imaginary goal line, just the two of us. It was so funny. You've got to Google that. You've got to watch that show. It's one of the great ones. He couldn't he hadn't done anything

I don't think and when we rehearsed it he couldn't pull back it was like it was like getting in with an actual grizzly bear that's how strong he was and finally I went to the guys

and I said hey this ain't gonna work I said you know I gotta work't going to work. I said, you know, I got to work next week. Well, let's just go slow motion. And we'll film it like it's slow motion, but it's going to be slow motion. It turned out hilarious. And he's a sweet guy, too. I bet he is. The 1966 City Championship, Polk High Panthers versus the Andrew Johnson High School

against Bubba Spare Tire Dixon. Four touchdowns in one game, 1966, baby. We should have done that game. Who's the coolest cameo you guys ever had? You've ever had in any of your shows, any of anything. The coolest cameo on any show I ever did? Yeah. Oh, my God.

That's impossible. Impossible. We had so many. On Modern Family, we had so many. Alone. I mean had so many alone i mean i just couldn't say i really couldn't say have you ever met bill walton no no i never met bill i r.i.p i love that i watched that the wonderful uh luckiest guy in the world doc yeah i used, so I like the Pac-10. I grew up in the Bay Area. So, you know, I'd be in Boston when I was playing, and it'd be 11 o'clock at night or something, and the Pac-12 team would be playing,

and Bill Wallen would be going on a, he'd be talking about like a forest in Northern California that had nothing to do with basketball. You know, I used to, when I was basketball you know i used to when i was i don't even know when this wasn't i don't even know if this actually occurred or my brain just made this happen i remember seeing a photo on the cover of sports illustrated of walton going up it was either to block a shot or it was to rebound. I'm not sure what it was. But he was up, and his hand was this far above the top of the backboard.

Yeah. I mean, he was seven foot. Yeah. And then he could still jump. Oh, my God. I said, this is a, you know. If he didn't have those back problems. And feet.

Yeah, but when you get those big guys with those, those shoes back then, we're in Converse. Right. There's no support. Might as well play it barefoot. Yeah. And that, that, that hardwood is hard. He was such a great player. He was unbelievable.

He could do everything. He's kind of like Joker. Yeah. So Jack is texting me. He's kind of like Joker. Yeah. So Jack is texting me. He's saying that your memory is correct. That was March 25th, 1974 issue. You're kidding me. Yeah.

That's right. Issue. Oh my God. Can you bring it up? Let me bring it up. I haven't seen it since then. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I'd like to see it. And while Leah brings us up, the Rams linebacker, Hacksaw Reynolds.

Hacksaw Reynolds. The Rams. And the Snake. He played with the Niners, too, didn't he? And Jack Youngblood. Yeah. Played with a broken back in the Super Bowl. Played with a broken bone.

All right, where is it? There it is. Oh, there it is. Is that it? Well, it's not a bone. Okay. All right, it was that one. Well, I bill walton r.i.p but you see yes i mean that's talk about playing above the rim oh man they said the a's were good they won their third straight world series oakland a's i grew i remember. They had the mustaches, right?

Yeah. They looked like the old 1920 players. That was so cool. Who was the pitcher? That was the 80s. I'm thinking of the 80 guy with the mustache. Oh, God. From the Battle of the Bay.

Is it Dennis Eckersley? Yeah, Eckersley. Boston guy, too. Boston. Well, I remember we met him at Strega one night with Nicky Verano, Tony Lasura. Tommy. Tommy Lasura, or Tony... Tommy. Tommy Lasura. Yeah. Tommy Lasura, who was mentioned in the pilot, or the

first episode, of Clipped. Of Clipped. Yes, that's right. She wanted to go to the goddamn game. You want to have dinner with Tommy Lasura? There you go. Alright. Can we set the stage for this Super Bowl IX, starting with the Minnesota Vikings, Kai?

Yes, we certainly can and tarkington this was like the buffalo bills before the buffalo bills yep he was sort of a mini well not a mini but he was of staba short quarterback scrambled i remember foreman too chuck foreman who's a wonderful running back so this 1974 vikings team pro bowlers fran tarkington chuck foreman john gilliam ron yerry carl eller alan page paul kraus alan page was from canton canton ohio he had page one and page two his brother was page two oh wow he wasn't he wasn't smart enough to go to college he worked at canton timken roller bearing after he graduated isn't warren right really yeah warren is yeah we used to go to one of my teammates house and warren we used to go to this place called the hot dog

shop or something i i didn't i didn't hang around warren yeah it's probably i was pretty much in youngstown yeah youngstown the middle spot where you could die at any given moment in youngstown i never realized i never thought it was dangerous. Eddie DeBatless from there. It's the midpoint from Chicago to New York for a reason. This team was coached by Bud Grant. They went 10-4. They were coming off a 12-2 season and a Super Bowl appearance

with a loss to the Miami Dolphins. This was their third Super Bowl appearance in as many years and they lost two of them. They also notably have never won one this was the team of the purple people eaters that's right the defensive line alan page call carl eller jim marshall gary larson doug sutherland um the purple people eaters they referred to themselves as the purple gang but because of the song um Sheb Woodley. That's right. A one and done. A one off, one hit.

One hit wonder. And their motto was, meet at the quarterback. Thoughts on the city of Minneapolis or the people of Minnesota, Ed? I mean, this is prime Minnesota football if you think about it. They haven't had this kind of success since then. And they really do have a crazy fan fan base like those people love minnesota football and it's because of this generation of football yeah yeah do you what do you remember the minnesota vikings this time oh i i love the

vikings you know i mean they were they i like the uniforms i like the players they were rough you know rough bunch rough very rough. Vikings, you know. I used to follow the Vikings. I liked Tarkenton. He was... Crafty. He was very crafty. Slippery. Yeah.

My dad used to say I looked like him when I was... I used to play quarterback. I know. You were a right-hander? I was a right-hander. Yeah. But I was a smaller guy that would run around and make these crazy plays. And my dad goes, you got a little tarkington in

you yeah yeah yeah he was a bit of a modern quarterback too in this era oh he would have not early he would have lit it up now yeah he probably would have played eight more years can't hit him yeah uh yeah here's the steelers let's pick up these steelers 1974 steelers pro bowlers ray garriella my pronunciation is bad mean Mean Joe Green, Elsie Greenwood, Jack Hamm, Franco Harris, Andy Russell. A lot of Hall of Famers on this team. 14 Hall of Famers. Howard was still with them, right? Yeah.

He was a backup. Joe Gilliam. There's a kid who could have been a great, great, great player. What happened? Drugs, alcohol, and I think he didn't get – he beat out Bradshaw. Yeah. He beat out Bradshaw. Bradshaw's second year.

Yeah. Gilliam was starting. So this season was riddled with quarterback controversy. Three starting quarterbacks, Joe Gilliam through week six. They were 4-1-1. Then Terry Bradshaw. Then Terry – you pronounce him Hanratty? Hanratty.

Hanratty. Terry Hanratty. And then back to Teddy Bradshaw, who then started this game. Yes. Kind of had a clutch final drive to win it. I think Noel was just trying to teach him a lesson, like get with it. He wasn't happy up there. He was a Southern kid.

Yeah. I just saw him. Well, Ham was great. Lambert. Ham came right after I was there. Jack Lambert, Kent State. And Lambert. Lambert, Kent State.

Kent State. So this year. A little bit of abert, Kent State. Kent State. So this year. A little bit of a cycle, right? A little bit. Yeah. The big takeaway on this team is they had an incredible draft, an incredible rookie class. So Lynn Swan, Jack Lambert, John Stallworth, Mike Webster,

and then they signed Donnie Schell. All five are in the Hall of Fame now. Came into that team this year. Kicked off the Steelers dynasty. Mel Blunt was great. Mel Blunt. Hall of Famers, came into that team this year, kicked off the Steelers' dynasty. Mel Blunt was great. Mel Blunt. Hall of Famers on this team are just incredible. Mel Blunt, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Green, Jack Hamm, Franco Harris,

Jack Lambert, Chuck Knoll, Bill Nunn, Art Rooney, Dan Rooney, Donnie Schell, John Stallworth, Lynn Swan, and Mike Webster. Yeah, they were loaded. What a team. Mike Webster was a monster. Ernie Holmes had a problem with the… Now, Ed, when you got there in in 69 right 68 69 69 chuck noel's first year could you feel something special was brewing to where they got five years

later no because i was just like in shock that i was even there yeah walking around i remember my dad dropped me off and it was uh you know saint vincent's college and i got there and the vets weren't really there yet there were some that were there for special reasons you know injuries working on things and so i was there with all the rookies but uh you know we were getting the rooms and everything. And my father was a tough guy. And he was very quiet. He was always quiet, but he was very quiet that day. And so I said, well, you better get going, Dad. He said, yeah, let's go.

And I walked him out to the car. And he opened the door, and he looked around, and he said, you sure you want to do this? And I wasn't. I mean, I thought, maybe not. I said, oh, yeah, hell yeah. He said, because if you don't we'll grab your bag get in let's get the hell out of here i said no no go go yeah you know but he was worried just watching these guys walking around you know that's what dads do yeah they worry when we had terry on he talked a little bit about how chuck noel was really early in

trying to get players from different pockets of the country to try to get the best athletes and really kind of create a little bit more of a integrated locker room oh really that wasn't necessarily round two yeah at that time i didn't know that i think he even said chuck noel got his like pilot's license so he could fly to these like small colleges all across the country he was a sophisticated guy yeah and uh i mean look at look at that look at that those those guys there were so many great players on those how mean was mean joe green mean as hell you know that's the other thing they go oh that's just the nickname it's it's because he's not mean oh no you know that's the, he was great off the field. He was a sweet guy in real life.

But on the field, he was brutal. I mean, you know, he used to punch guys. Yeah. Did you know that? Oh, yeah. I've seen the highlights. No, he'd hit guys in the stomach with a fist. He had a great uppercut to the solar plexus.

Yeah. He used to, boom, he'd nail these guys. They'd drop like a sack i mean he was brutal he didn't lift weights you know he was what we used to call cock strong yeah just a normal naturally that was a term yeah uh never never touched a weight but fast he was a great player oh he's one of the greatest of all time. Anybody, this guy could. In this game, foreshadowing, he had a fumble recovery and an interception.

Yeah, he was a tremendous player. He was mean. Mean Joe. The best commercial ever made, right? That Coke commercial. The best ever made. We just found out, because one of Jules' old coaches, Dante Scarnecchio, was acted in a like made for tv movie based off of that commercial oh really yeah oh yeah yeah i remember that that's

right dante scarnecchio now terry did uh all kinds of cameos right for you he's done some cameos with you terry did a married with children and he did a modern family know, I'll tell you a funny thing. We had lunch when he was doing the Modern Family. By now we knew each other. And we were having lunch and it was a courtroom scene where he had courtroom duty and I was trying to get out until I saw it was him. It was my idol, you know, Terry Bradshaw. So we're having lunch and he's looking at me and he says,

when did you play? And I told him when I was trying out. And he're having lunch, and he's looking at me. He says, when did you play? And I told him when I was trying out. And he said, yeah, oh, yeah. He said, well, I played 12 years. He said, yeah, you're older than me, ain't you? I said, yeah, I'm a year older than you. He said, well, you look better than I do. I said, well, I didn't play 12 years in the NFL

when they didn't protect quarterbacks. He had some bad injuries. He said, man, I didn't play 12 years in the NFL when they didn't protect quarterbacks. He had some bad injuries. He said, man, you're right. I said, how many concussions do you have? He said, I couldn't count. I couldn't count them all. I said, well, that's why you. And he had a detached bicep.

He had a bad back too. Everything. I mean, you can't list a series of injuries. But he's happy. He's got a good life. Terry helped build Fox Sports. No doubt. Madden started with the games.

Madden, too. Yeah. He was doing the pregame. Him, Howie, Coach. A lot like Walton. You know, just that free spirit kind of say whatever. Terry's the best, Coach. A lot like Walton, you know, just that free spirit kind of say whatever. Terry's the best, man. He's authentically him.

He really is. Remember, he said, oh, I sang in the Grand Ole Opry. I said, oh, I heard that. He said, I wasn't any good, but I sang there. Did he tell you that they rolled all his fans there or something? Yeah, he tells me. I've heard these stories now. I know, I know.

He's a piece of work. Oh, he's so funny. He lives in Oklahoma now. You know, he's got horses. Yeah, he's a big horse guy. He's got the whole thing. And he finally found the right woman. You know, he's probably on his third or fourth.

Yeah. Yeah. Now, who's on your Steelers Mount Rushmore, though? Well, any number of these guys. You got four. Joe Green, Joe Green. Well, I'll tell you who's one of my favorite. He's not on here.

He must have come later. It's that Samoan kid, you know, that kid from USC. Troy Palamalu. Oh, my God. He was one of my favorite players. I mean, just the way he played defense. That kid was right. I mean God. He was one of my favorite players. I mean, just the way he played defense, that kid was right.

I mean, did you play against him? I did. Did you feel that he was that good or was he fading by then? Or no, he was, he was still that good. What made him so good was he didn't necessarily hold the responsibility.

He was supposed to hold. So like, if you're doing a pre-snap read on something and a safety comes here and then you do a post-snap and he's supposed to be going this way, Troy would be in a completely different area picking a ball where you're not accounting for that guy to go there

because he's not supposed to be there. Right, right. So he had an instinct that was second to none. Yeah. He'd come right over the line sometimes. Right over the line some right over like and he would do that uncalled like that wasn't the call play yeah you can't teach that stuff you can't and a lot of guys try to do that but they when you do that you leave yourself your team

vulnerable of getting gashed yeah that's right you know what i mean a lot of those but he never really i mean he'd have his times but he made a lot more plays. He got away with it a lot. Got away with it a lot more. My favorite thing about Troy is that while he played during the 2000s with the Steelers, he had the embodiment of the 70 Steelers defense. Like, he could have played on those teams and fit right in. He was also a very gentleman.

When you compete against him, he'd say a prayer before every play. He'd light you up. All those Hawaiians are very gentleman. When you compete against him, he'd say a prayer before every play. He'd light you up. All those Hawaiians are very religious. Those missionaries did a job on those players. But look, Lambert, very smart player. He was only about 210. Yeah, he was small. And he was 6'4", or 6'3", he was tall.

And he had them very big shoulder pads on. He looked fierce and no teeth, but he was basically just a real smart player. You know, he'd just bring you down. Not a Budkus. Budkus would kill you. Yeah. And we got Mean Joe, Troy, and Lambert.

No, I wouldn't put Lambert in there. Okay, so Andy Russell, I loved Andy Russell. You know, Andy Russell was one of the smartest linebackers I ever saw play the game. A lot like Joe Schmidt. Remember Schmidt for the Lions? You don't remember Schmidt. Schmidt was one of the all-time great middle linebackers and not that big. But Russell, when he played the weak side, he played on the weak side, opposite the tight end. And he'd stand straight up in the air before the snap. He'd be looking around. He'd say, wide out. Watch him. He's coming over there, John. He'd be talking.

And he would be like not in a football. You'd think he's not ready to play football. He'd look like a ref. And that ball would be snapped, man. And he was on ready to play football. He looked like a ref. Yeah. And that Bobby Snap, man, and he was on it. He was great. Formation. And again, not that big. He was a fullback at Missouri. Yeah. He was like you.

He was basically a running back. And he was a great player. He played a lot of years, didn't he? He was the captain, wasn't he? He looked. Andy Russell. I have a quote from Andy Russell, which is he would tell, yeah, he would tell Terry Bratch on the offense,

just hold them, we'll get the points. L.C. Greenwood. Now, he was a rookie when I was a rookie. And I would have bet my life that they would have cut him because he played like he was on roller skates he was six seven and he was long and thin yeah and i thought my god he looks like a basketball player you know i didn't think but you know you know you're wrong so much i mean they they worked with him he had a potential. When you get those long arms, though.

Yeah. And he finally became, well, as you know, he became a great player. Well, you get long arms, you get leverage strength. Yeah. And you keep the guy away from you. Yeah, that's true. And then you can two gap. Like the stork.

Yes. Remember the stork from the Raiders? Yeah. The outside linebacker? The mad stork. I don't know. What was his name? I don't know his name, but I remember he had one.

Oh, my God. Just go Mad Stork. He's probably. Ted Hendricks. Huh? Ted Hendricks. Ted Hendricks. I will say now with no problem, one of the greatest linebackers ever.

Ever. They could never run on him. They could never. And there was another guy, too, that played for the 49ers. Number 64. And I don't remember his name. He played for years. Outside linebacker. 240, 6'3", 6'4".

Brutal. And great. What was his name? Number 64. No, that's too soon. Dwayne Wilcox? Yes, Wilcox. Wilcox. Oh, man.

Dave Wilcox. Dave Wilcox. That guy could play. Drafted in 1964. 64, probably played to 75. Oh, man. 64 to 74. He used to stand with his hands on his hips and his legs crossed, standing.

You know that. You know that. When you're tired. Yeah, he'd just stand like this. That's a tired look. Well, let me wrap up the Steelers team. So they went 10-3-1. It was the first tie ever or overtime to tie.

Oh, on record? Yeah. That was their record. And also, notably, I just got to say it. This was the steel curtain defense. Notably, Mean Joe Green, L.C. Greenwood. Passing to the torch game. Dwight White.

And Dwight White in this game got food poisoning, lost 20 pounds. It was going to be whether he was going to play or not. and dwight white in this game got food poisoning lost 20 pounds it was going to be whether he was going to play or not he ended up playing uh in this game remind me to tell you a funny story about franco harris and me let's hear when sofia vagara got married the wedding was at the uh is florida yeah uh what's that hotel it's beautiful down in west palm beach it's i don't know west palm beach here i don't either so i was there when most of the cast went down of course so uh so anyway i'm at the reception and uh i'm standing with some of the cast and this guy comes up to me and he says uh mr o'neill i don't want to bother you you, but I work for a man who's your biggest fan.

And I said, okay. Tell him I said hi. He said, well, he's here. I said, well, if he's here, bring him over. Where is he? He said, he's over there by the fountain. I looked, and I said, that's Frank O'Hara. He said, yes. I looked, and I said, that's Frank O'Hara. He said, yes. I looked and I went, yeah.

So he literally, like this, came over. I said, how you doing? Oh, Mr. O'Neill, I'm so happy. I don't know what to say. I said, wait a minute. You came the year after me when you were at Penn State. Yeah. I said, you know I was a rookie with the Steelers. He said, oh, I know all about it. I said, you do? You know I got cut.

He said, yeah. I said, and you won four Super Bowls. He said, yeah. Immaculate reception? Yes. And I'm your idol. What's wrong with this? Well, that's a great segue because in this game,

Frank O'Harris was the Super Bowl MVP. Super Bowl MVP this game. 34 attempts, 158 yards, one touchdown, also two fumbles, one loss, but everyone was fumbling this game. It was freezing. It was the coldest game on record at the time. All right, here we go.

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Supposed to be in the Super Dome. They didn't finish it. Go to Tulane. What are we doing? The lead up of this game is the Steelers beat Buffalo and Oakland to get to the Super Bowl. The Vikings beat St. Louis. Aided by three turnovers and a missed field goal. Then they beat Los Angeles on a goal-line stand to win at the end of the game. This was billed as two great defenses,

Steel Curtain versus the Purple People Eaters. Passing the torch, really. In terms of defensive line. Defensive line. And, I mean, the Vikings wanted to do what the steelers did and the vikings were just coming off they were searching for their first super bowl title they had just lost super bowl four and they had just lost the previous year super bowl eight against the dolphins and you mentioned yes this is the second coldest super bowl ever with 46 degrees and the reason

that is is because it was supposed to be at the superdome but it wasn't finished yet so they moved the game to nearby tulane um where there was all kinds of weather and rain, and so they moved it on the slick turf, and so this game was very sloppy. Franco was a great running back. He was a load. Oh, he was huge. He was big.

Yeah. Man, when he turned up, you know. Train. Ooh. You got to get him running side to side. You can't let him get started. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got to get him early. His legs, man.'t let him get started. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got to get him early.

Yeah, those legs, man. It was like, this guy, he can bring it. Now, do you remember where you were when you watched this game? No. No? I don't know. I mean, I watched it for sure. But I was probably in some bar in Youngstown.

Youngstown? You're fresh out. You're about five years out. Did you start Hollywood yet? I was like 28. I was in Youngstown you're fresh out you're about five years out you haven't yeah did you start hollywood yet i was like 28 i was in youngstown yeah i didn't go to new york till 31 i was 31 31 i mean the odds of me making it when i got to new york were astronomical yeah i still can't even believe it what were they you couldn't even make odds that high well you got them. It's like winning a lotto. You know what I mean?

This was a sloppy game. Sloppy weather. Special teams fiasco. You know how he looks? Like an eagle. You could do it, Noel. We're going to write a movie for you to be Chuck Noel. You have the same hair.

Jules, you'll play Terry? I'll be Terry Bradshaw. Terry? No, I can't play Terry. No, I'll play Terry. You can play Terry. You played Chuck. The blonde bomber? I'm I can't play Terry. No, I'll get you. You can play Terry. You played Chuck. The blonde bomber? I'm about five inches too short. I could play. You know, Chuck was a messenger

guard for the Browns. Yeah. Did you know that? I didn't. He played for Paul Brown. He was an undersized guard. He was probably my, maybe he was 220. I don't know. Maybe not. Yeah. But he used to run the plays in and out for Paul Brown with Cleveland. So this is a defensive battle. When you watch these games back in those days, were you entertained to see defenses do well like this? I love the defensive games, which they don't want to see anymore. No more. They don't want to see that.

And to me, it was because I was a defensive player. I love the defense. I love the see that. And to me, it was, well, because I was a defensive player. I love the defense. I love the defensive guys. And it gets a bad rap because we'll get into scoring the game. And a lot of people associate a bad game with a good defensive game. That's a bad game to them. It is a bad game. But it's like the UFC.

Yeah. Dana White, he wants nothing but knockouts. If you go on the ground, you don't get the bonus. Yeah. Even if you tap the guy out from the ground, Dana White's mad. Sometimes he'll walk out of a fight, and the guy's on the ground. I mean, it's just how it's gone. Because he knows what puts asses in seats.

And it's blood and guys get knocked out. Yeah, kick to the face. What I call stupid fighting. Yeah. It's become stupid fighting. Yeah. You know, I went with the Gracies for 30 years, the jujitsu. Yeah. I got a black belt from the old man.

But if you take a fight, a lot of times you'll see two wrestlers who really can't box, but they like to box because they just learned it. So they get in there against each other, and they think, oh, I think I'm a little better than this one at boxing. And they box. Well, who wants to see that fight? Two guys that really don't know how. But they won't put those guys on the ground and start from there.

But if you're on the ground too long, they stand you up. Yeah. So when they stand a ground fighter up, you're at a disadvantage right away. And that's what that's all about now. Well, I mean, you got to pick your battles and you got to use your strengths and try to. Yeah. That's why it's an awesome sport to watch right now because you can be a shitty boxer,

but still go out and get some. Now the thing now are those calf kicks. They're breaking legs. How did you get into mixed martial arts? Huh? How did you get into doing the mixed martial arts? I got in there with, uh,

well, I, it's not mixed martial arts. I got in with the jujitsu with, uh, from John Milius. Do you remember a guy named John Milius? Nobody. My name is John. He wrote, i it's not mixed i did jujitsu martial arts i got in with the jujitsu with uh from john millius do you remember a guy named john millius nobody remembers john he wrote he wrote apocalypse now okay he wrote big wednesday which is a classic surfing film yeah you'll see anyway he was he

was taking jujitsu in torrance with the gracie family they're brazilians yeah and i knew him from the lot and he and we used to get the fights and we'd all go and watch the fights and stuff the pay-per-view stuff yeah he was telling me about these gracie guys and the main the head gracie was a guy named hickson hickson gracie you wouldn't want to fight hickson gracie and uh i think his record was something like 400 and O, but he, and that's exaggeration. But anyway, he was trying to get me to go down there and take this jujitsu. And I said, is that the guys that wear the pajamas? And he said, yeah,

but this is a whole other thing. And I said, no, John, you know, so two years of this, he's badgering me. And so one day I went down, I said, I'll meet you there. He said, no, I want to drive you one day I went down. I said, I'll meet you there. He said, no, I want to drive you down. I said, no, no, I'll meet you there. Because I wanted to exit. So I go in, and he's in there with Horry and Gracie, who was the oldest brother.

And they're rolling around on a mat. I'm looking in the window. I'm thinking, what are they doing? So afterwards, they come out, and I meet Horry and Gracie. He's the oldest brother. He runs the show. And, oh, nice to meet you. It's good to see you.

I love all things John says, good things. I said, well, the place is very clean. It's very clean. You could eat off the floor, literally. And he said, okay, now you get to have a free lesson with me. I want to show you. I said, no, no, no, no, no. I said, you know, I got to get back and I'm in Torrance, right? I said, what's the rush hour. I don't have to get a motel out here. You know, Ed, come on, please.

You're here. You only hear one time. I did 15 minutes. So get out of ghee. So, you know, the, the thing, the, the, the pajamas. So I go in, i put it on i come back out he says uh okay this is going to be quick i know you're in a hurry uh lay down on your back please and we're in the mat i lay down he said i'm going to kneel on top of you and then i would tell this is a two-part test very quick i'm to pretend you come out of your bedroom at night, and you hear a noise, and your wife is afraid, and there's a guy in there, right?

He maybe opened the door and knocks you down and jump on top of you. Your children in the other room. Do you think you can get me off of you if your life depends on it? Now, this guy is about $1.70. I'm at that time like $2.40. This is 30-some years ago. I said, if my life depends on it, I think I could get you off. I don't know after that, because I knew these guys had these reputations. But that's it. That's all you have to do. I said, well, I'm laying like this, you know. I said, well, when? He said, anytime you want. Now, I don't feel his weight on me. He's kneeling, but the weight's on his knees. I said, all right. Anytime? He says,

anytime you want. Just go. Just get me off. So I think I, like, bucked up, you know, and, you know, pushed it. 20 seconds later, you know, he's still on top of me i can't get him off i'm exhausted it's okay sit up breathe breathe breathe it's okay okay now this is the last part i lay down you sit on top of me it's okay now i said no i can't he, can you hold me down four seconds? I thought, oh my God, four seconds? I said, yeah, four seconds? What do I look like to you? He said, that's all you have to do. John, you count. One, two, three, four, like that. I said, that's four so it's not even four seconds okay when i said get a hold of me so i i grab him he said come on like a man you know i mean they're selling their fish this is how they do it so i hold him i'm squeezing him he goes you ready i said yeah boom he's on top of me

i'm looking up at him i said how'd you do that this is what we do i said i gotta learn this no ed come on this is not the point i just wanted to show you what we do. I said, I got to learn this. He said, no, Ed, come on. This is not the point. I just wanted to show you what we do. We have some actors come. They do this and that. They go home. They do movies. They don't come back.

I said, when can I come back? Come back tomorrow if you want to. I said, what time? Give me the time. I said, Torrance, I'll be here. 16 years later, I got the black belt gee wow and i took it was a lot of humble pie man believe me i have recently got into combat i've been boxing a bunch you're boxing yeah i used to box as a kid in youngstown yeah i bet it's it's it's

it's it's a whole other deal it's a whole other deal but it's a great way an outlet for you to compete with yourself are you sparring no no don't spar don't spar i got too many head things yeah no don't spar at all but i'm doing all the movement the bag work and it's been fun it is it hurts my body though i see all my deficiencies and from my injuries and because there's a lot of there's a lot. Because there's a lot of crazy torque on the body when you're doing these things. Well, boxing is the only, in my opinion now, I'm opinionated about this.

Because I grew up with boxing in Youngstown. And Ray Mancini. I mean, there's a lot of great fighters that came out of Youngstown. And there's a whole history of that. But boxing is the only sport that's gone backwards. I mean, it's gone backwards. In the 30s and 40s, the fighters were the best, and even further back.

And people will say, no, no, you're wrong. Look how big they are, the heavyweights. I said, they can't fight for shit. They don't know anything about fighting. They don't know. And those old-time guys, look, the heavyweights. I said, they can't fight for shit. They don't know anything about fighting. They don't know. And those old-time guys, look, I'll give you one example. I don't want to go on. We're going to talk about boxing.

Sugar Ray Robinson in his prime, say he's 26 years old in his prime, fights Bernard Hopkins, the executioner. He's going in the Hall of Fame, Bernard. Bernard, when he was 26, his record would have been like 29 and 1 or 2 with 18, 19 knockouts. Robinson's record, same age, would have been 91 and 1 with 74 knockouts. Fighting the best fighters that ever put gloves on. Now, who's going to win that fight?

It'd be like fighting a girl. Yeah. That's such a crazy sport, though, because the politics in it now. Well, it was always a little shaky. Oh, you know what I mean? Always. You never see the best fighters fight the best fighters in prime. No, but in those days, you saw it a lot more often

because they almost had to fight each other. I see the best fighters fight the best fighters in prime. But in those days, you saw it a lot more often. Yeah. Because they almost had to fight each other. And those guys way back, they were better trainers. I mean, it was just a whole other deal. Everybody was fighting. And today, nobody's fighting. They fight once a year. Yeah.

Because they're making the money. Big money. Yeah. There's no comparison between the old guys. All you have to do is Google some of those fights and watch them now well this year before i wrap up this game this year was the year of the thrill in manila it was 1974 1975 around this game uh fraser ali three uh but to wrap up this game or to kind of like put a point to it scoreless first quarter pittsburgh missed a field goal there was a botch snap on another field goal at halftime yep there was a that was the first safety in

super bowl history um interception on like the inside the five and then back and forth um so 20 and halftime the third quarter pittsburgh extended their lead with a touchdown from franco harris uh minnesota fumbled the halftime the kickoff at halftime which was actually a stealers he slipped the kicker on the kickoff at halftime, which was actually a Steelers. He slipped the kicker on the kickoff at halftime and then kind of squibbed it and then bounced off the Vikings guy and then the Steelers recovered.

She didn't shot well played. That's kind of the representative of this game. And then fourth quarter, there was a blocked punt and then returned for a touchdown or recovered in the end zone for a touchdown. That was the Vikings, right? Yes, the Vikings got that. There wasn't a drive that one,

the last minute, there was a six minute drive, 11 play ending with a Larry Brown touchdown. That really kind of in many ways is a summation of Terry Bradshaw's career starts a little bit sloppy back and forth. You don't know, but when push comes to shove, when it's crunch time,

who do you want the ball in the hand a little bit tb12 tb12 the original yeah yeah tb12 and then so the steelers won the game 16 to 6 one thing i need to mention is that this steel curtain team defense during this game allowed less than one yard per carry and allowed no offensive scores. Less than one yard per carry. That's a joke. That's crazy. That's crazy. And with Fran running around back there, right?

And he only had 102 yards passing. Yeah. Three interceptions. Interceptions by Mel Blunt, Mean Joe Green, and then that other cornerback who got called late man what's the aftermath of this franco harris was mvp awesome little story you had their first super bowl yep steelers their first super bowl this is the kickoff unbelievable they would go on to win next year 1975 super Super Bowl. Two back-to-backs. And then in 78 and 79. Yeah.

Chuck Knoll became the youngest head coach to win a Super Bowl at the time. 42. That was, what was, wow. McVay was 34. Yeah. 36. So Knoll was only 42 then. Mm-hmm.

So when I was a rookie, he was like 36 or 7. Yeah. McVay was 36 when he won the Super Bowl, became the youngest ever. 36. Yeah. And then, so this would be the third Vikings Super Bowl loss. They would then lose again in Super Bowl XI. So they went to four out of the first 11 Super Bowls

and didn't win a single one. Hopefully, Kevin O'Connell will get them going. Let's go. Look at Terry. That's Jenny McCarthy, right? Yeah right yeah see noel see that see how he looked didn't he look like kind of like a pointy nose yeah pointy nose was that a movie they were doing yeah that was the that was the uh ryan reynolds one i just met her like uh at the last sag awards first time i never met her i used to like her movie fry green tomatoes oh yeah is that kathy beats she's good she's good she had a couple scary movies too when i was a kid

oh my god with the one where she was chopping up yeah i was like a little kid when that came out i was like terrified of her that's failure to launch yeah failure to launch yeah now what are this what are these stealers a rank in the greatest dynasties in history? They got to be top three. They're the first to four. They're the first to six. I mean, this was the first team to win. All these Hall of Famers.

It's got to be up there. They've got to be up there, right? I mean, I can't. Who do you think is the greatest Super Bowl team? We're a little biased here. Probably. Six and 20 years. Well, you know, here. Probably. Six in 20 years. Well, you know, that's it.

That's the record. It's not four touchdowns in 66, but six Super Bowls in 20 years. It's got to be you guys. It has to be you guys. Nah, I mean, these Chiefs are looking damn good. They got to slow them down. Yeah. If they win again, they go 3P.

You see where McCaffrey just signed for 2 for 19, a little extension. Hey, that kid is some athlete, though, isn't he? He is. I mean, he's not much bigger than you, is he? Probably. When we were playing, we were very similar. I was probably about 5 pounds heavier. Yeah.

I'm a little lighter right now. What was your 40? What did you run the 40 i was like a 448 guy that's fast but my fat i was the quickest 510 5 shuttle well that means yeah that's more change of direction well depends everyone's got a strength there's long speed there's short speed yeah everyone's got a superpower yeah at that level you know yeah no but McCaffrey I mean his versatility is insane oh man his well his dad was a great receiver and McCaffrey used to cut out the toes yeah you remember because he liked he liked smaller cleat but I found out he told I hung

out with him at a training camp he said he did it because he was like the first to cut out your you had to x out when you have pressure points. So he was the first to do that. Well, you know, and I used to say when I was playing football, I used to say, what are we doing with these giant shoulder pads? What are we doing with these goddamn hip girdles? Why are we wearing this shit? It's slowing us down.

You can't run as fast. And, you know, you didn't need down. You can't run as fast. Yeah. And, you know, you didn't need it. Now they're not doing that. I used to wear the smallest pads I could. Less surface area for you to get hit. Especially as a defensive lineman, you get skinny on a guy. Yeah.

Go through the crack. Go through the seam. Split the hole. Split it. So a little on the legacy of this game. So I mentioned before, there's 21 total Hall of Famers 40 from the steelers which i listed earlier seven from the vikings carl carl eller bud grant paul kraus alan page fran tarkington mick tinglehoff and ron yeri uh after the game bud grant quoted was saying there were three bad teams out there us pittsburgh and the officials we talked about because it was a sloppy game yeah sloppy yeah yeah yeah yeah so due to this game nfl put in a rule where stadiums can't

get the super bowl on their first year um so what was that because this game was moved from the superdome which wasn't finished to tulane stadium, the NFL put in a rule that stadiums cannot get the Super Bowl on their very first year. They have to exist for a year. And something I would like to ask is because this is the Purple People Eaters versus the Steel Curtain, a couple of all-time unit nicknames.

What are some of your favorite unit nicknames in NFL history? I've got a few here, but I'd love to hear what you guys think. Legion of Boom. Legion of Boom. I don't even know greatest show on turf greatest show on turf i don't know that that was the rams with kurt warner well they were the fearsome foursome fearsome foursome yes yeah that was the rams yep that was back in deacon jones yep that was my dad liked those rams yeah those rounds were good. Monsters of the midway. That's the bears.

Yep. New York sack exchange. Yes. The no names, the 72 dolphins, defense dolphins. And what was the Redskins? The Redskins,

the hogs, the hogs, the hogs. Yeah. I like pony express, even though it's college. That was SMU. Well, my favorite college thing was the Chinese bandits.

Who's that? The Chinese bandits was Google it.'m gonna look it was lsu no texas a&m oh the chinese bandits were defensive they were lsu tigers most notably from 58 to 59 they were used briefly for the army cadets great wow the chinese bandits wow we don't have they don't really do that anymore because teams And they were used briefly for the Army cadets. They were great. Wow. The Chinese bandits. Wow. They don't really do that anymore because teams aren't sticking around as long. No. So you're not getting the same guys playing for like Steel Curtain. They played 10, 8, 6, 7 years together. Guys are gone after four going to another team.

It's a free agency world. Yeah. And even in the college thing now with that portal thing that everyone's a free agent every year my god that's well you know maybe it'll work out it's pro pro sports it's great to see the kids get paid but they got to put some it's tough it's you know i did did married with us we had so many people but bo jackson was on bo jackson was not that tall no but he was he was built oh god his thighs he was built dude he had legs and he was so unbelievably fast he was a fast guy in the field guy in the field right like 245 pounds i mean this guy was incredible

stud let's score the game we got to score the game and he left for so i've got one leftover question what it would happen so we hear a lot about there's chief celebrity fans john ham and eric stone street and rob riggle and etc etc etc is there a little bit of a steelers celebrity fan group in hollywood you got a a group chat i think there. I heard there was a bar. Okay. Where, where they all go and watch the game. Yeah. I, I didn't, uh,

I didn't, I didn't, I failed to find out where it was, but there is one. There is one. Okay. Do you watch, who do you watch football with?

By myself. Like my dad. I never watched it with anybody. I don't want to talk to anyone. No, I just watch it. Yeah. My dad's like that.

He never wanted to go to the games. No, never. You don't want to talk to anyone? No, I just watch it. Yeah, my dad's like that. You never wanted to go to the games? No, I don't go to the games either. I mean, you've got to park. Yeah, it's a lot. It's too much. I just watch it on TV. The coverage is so damn good, too, now. It's better that you miss everything.

You go to the game. I know. Let's name the game. Let me do this quick stat correction. Earlier on in the episode you said modern day the show is modern family that's okay i said modern day yeah modern day is the high school down the street that uh matt leiner went to well okay and then the pilot that you were on with tom brady is called in the game 2004 with jennifer love hewitt oh my god she played a

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gathered into one book. Curious to know more? Pre-order Cabinet of Curiosities, available November 12th, wherever books and audiobooks are sold. Learn more over at GrimAndMild.com slash curiosities. Let's name the game. These are some names we came up with that we could potentially call this game. Usually the games we do have a historical name. This could be the Sloppy Bowl, the first one, because it was the first of the dynasty for the Steelers.

The Steel Curtain Starter. The Franco Bowl. Steel Made at Tulane. Or the Steel Curtain versuster, the Franco Bowl, Steel Made at Tulane, or the Steel Curtain versus the Purple People Eaters. What would you like to name this game? Or do you have something else? No, I don't have anything. I would say, look, woman.

The Steel Curtain versus the Purple People Eaters. I like that. Yeah. Look, woman. You said, look, woman. It's still curtain versus the purple people ears. I like that. Yeah. Look, woman. What did you say? You said, look, lady. You got a nine foot. You're trying to get me with the seven.

Oh, man. All right. Let's score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Stakes one to ten. What do you score this game? One to ten.

Super Bowl. Stakes. Super Bowl game. What what do you mean stakes the stakes of the game it's like a regular season game low stakes preseason almost nothing playoff game has higher stakes super bowl super bowl we generally super bowls generally hitting in the high eights the mid nines depending on all right this well well it's the first win so stakes are high yeah and the Dolph uh the Vikings just lost a couple so the stakes are higher for them too because they've got a little bit of the losers score out of one to ten I'd say I'd say ten for the stars star power what do you score the star power how many Hall of Famers 21 Hall of Famers 21 Hall of Famers say 10 yeah 10 also bruce springsteen was asked to play the halftime show declined it down he turned it down turned it down

and it was the a tribute to duke ellington by the grambling state band not the same uh gameplay the gameplay are you talking that's talking about the music? No, the game. This is the game. The game, like how the game was. Oh, so it was a sloppy game, right? Sloppy, but if you're a defensive guy, it could be a good game. Yeah. Yeah, but a lot of mistakes, too.

Like fumbled that are dropped and missed this. It wasn't like forced. I'd say, I don't know, eight, seven? I don't know. Go seven. Go seven. The name of the game um i'd say give it a i don't know eight seven i don't know go seven go seven the name of the game steel curtain versus purple people eaters probably two of the best nicknames for defenses of all time yeah so one to ten what are you scoring this bad boy uh i'd give it a 10. 10? Yeah. Because it's the two greatest names. It's got it. For defense. What's the total?

9-2-5. And it was a defensive game. It was a defensive game. The average comes out to 7-6-5, along with Jack, Kyler, and my scores. Where does this lead on? We've done all these games. Oh, my God. You guys have done a lot.

We've got baseball, boxing, soccer done a lot we've got baseball boxing soccer wow you got box wrestling between super bowl 17 cowboys versus bills and super bowl 53-6 with the rams versus bangles that feels that feels pretty good the double doink game the almost tie game just behind the can't wait game that game's too high that's way too high and double doink yeah this is this feels right we got a new scoring system because shit got wonky this feels right good scoring that's a good score yeah good you should do some jujitsu i should huh i just get scared i get terrified with my knees i have bad no you know what you

you do a lot of rolling on you start out you can start out on your knees so you don't i never hurt my knees doing jiu-jitsu yeah and i have knees i had three operations i should try it because boxing is starting to hurt my shoulder yeah it's shoulders jacked i've had four yeah and you can't you know boxing if two guys know boxing the big guy's gonna win nine times can't, you know, boxing. If two guys know boxing, the big guy's going to win nine times out of ten. You got to hit them. Come on. Four and 66, maybe one game. But they do have weight divisions in boxing.

They do have weight divisions. You know. Ed, did we miss anything about this game or any of this? No, I don't think so. We got it all. I think so, yeah it all i think so yeah we're trying to remember where i was when i saw it i know i saw it there was a bar i used to go to called the lamppost i was probably there we got to get to the lamppost we got we got

we're going to take a games and names go to the lamppost and do another game well the lamppost is not the same now probably isn't but we'll find it. I think it's a strip joint or something. Before that, it was owned by a mob guy. You can make a lot of bets in there. Oh, Youngstown. I never heard of a place in Youngstown with a mob guy. Well, if you Google Youngstown, Google Youngstown, Murder Town, USA.

I thought that was Gary, Indiana. Google Murder Town, USA or Bomb Town, USA. When I was a kid, there were 165 unsolved bombings of automobiles with people in them. That was called the Youngstown Tune-Up. 60 years ago, this Ohio city was named Crime Town, USA. Why? Because they got a lot of crime. Google the Youngstown.

Youngstown had 75 bombings, 11 killings in a decade, and no one seems to care. You know, after years of being called Bombtown and Murdertown already by other publications, this one was Crimetown USA, and it really stuck. Johnny Ciccioli was a producer of Mob Talk. I know him. Youngstown travel advisory yeah i'm on that thing youngstown you might get tuned up

and if and everyone might get tuned up right now if you don't go on fx and watch clip that airs on tuesday exclusively on Hulu. You're going to get tuned up. That's where that tuned up probably comes from. Maybe. I remember you saying you could get tuned up, kid. No, that was for a car. No, but that also meant you were going to get tuned up.

Yeah, you're right. You're right. You got tuned up. That's it. That's how it was. He got tuned up. Ed, thank you so much for coming on. This was so much fun.

This is awesome. Man, that was awesome. He's so cool. He's a legend. Legend. And like athlete in his heart, right? He might have had his career as an actor and all these hit shows and all this stuff. But like the way he was talking, like, and he was talking about football from the 60s. Like it was yesterday.

Like it was yesterday. Yeah. And then he proceeded to put me in a Brazilian jiu-jitsu move after the show. I got footage of that. I feel- Did you actually feel when he breathed the breathing? Yeah, I mean, I didn't want to hurt Al Bundy.

I mean, four touchdowns in 1966 in one game? No shot. Let's hit the old hotline. Remember, that number is 424-291-2290. What's up, boys? Love the pod. My name is Ryan from Somerville, Mass. Just want to thank Jules.

He made my life growing up super easy, and it was awesome growing up. Question I have is, who was the smelliest guy in the locker room after practice, games, meetings? Who was that guy who always just smelled? Like, man, that guy worked hard. Thanks, boys. Love the pod. That guy worked hard, so he smelt? Usually it was the big fat guys.

They smelt. But the one who always, I used to have a fucking problem with Amendola. He would, because Danny never wore socks and he'd wear new shoes all the time. But sometimes he'd wear a pair of shoes like three or four times. We'd be in a meeting and he'd have his feet on. I'm like, yo, bro, you don't have fucking socks on. can smell your feet from here you take those guys well you put some socks on you're not that cool what was the candle budget at the uh why we see your room we didn't even have you couldn't have anything burning in i think there's no burning of anything so you think

amandola what is your answer to this he had some smelly little feet because i've i've heard and granted i was never in the building i was never in the room it's only secondary sources but i have some sources that say it was you i don't smell i don't smell i may had a messy locker room here and there and the kent state jersey shirts that you wear every day yeah but i took that right off and i was in the shower immediately okay okay i didn't smell and i had good fragrances i used to steal tom's perfume perfumes what's up jules um just wanted to call and ask uh what is your favorite story of a vacation with some of your teammates on the Patriots? Favorite story of vacation.

I remember when me, Danny, and Tom went to Montana for a Fourth of July to train. We had like three days of hard training. Tom left and me and Danny stayed an extra day. And like there's so many activities with Tom. Like everything is scheduled out. You got two hours for this, an hour for that. We have dinner at this time. We have to go do this at that time.

When he left, we literally just took two quads and just went up the mountain and uh we were doing like donuts and then all of a sudden i rolled one of the quads fully broken left at the person's house we're staying at didn't say a word just got in the car and left how does how does the invite for that go is that a text is that like a tap on the shoulder from someone else? No, that's what Tom would text me. Tom texts,

Tom texts. Yeah. Dola too. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny that you mentioned that story because we did a years ago, we did a trip to Israel and you left a day early and after you were gone, it was the best day.

All right. Last one. Hey guys guys how's it going uh my question is for julian julian i know that when you're playing football you have a pretty strict diet about what you would eat you're very health conscious and all that uh i'm curious if there was anything that you ate during that time that you hated so much that you have no interest in taking a bite of it again. Thanks. Bye. I used to eat alligator because it has these rich omegas, and it's also got more protein than a fish.

I remember eating that and I was like first like I'm trying to like trick myself the first time I ate it like oh it kind of tastes like chicken it's good. Then after eating it for like eight weeks straight on every Tuesday I'm like I don't know if I can eat this anymore. It doesn't taste like chicken. It's kind of fishy. So alligator or alligator. Alligator. Cut that. That's a great answer. What a game.

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