Games with Names - Super Bowl XVIII with Ice Cube | Redskins vs. Raiders

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Ice Cube is in studio! The legendary rapper, actor, founder of The BIG 3, and President of Raider Nation is with us to relive a legendary Raiders Super Bowl win. That's right, Super Bowl XVIII.  (00:00:00) We kick off the episode. (00:02:35) Ice Cube joins us on the couch. (00:36:33) We go back to January 1984. (00:55:06) We get into the rosters. (01:07:32) We dive into the game. (01:17:40) We score it. (01:27:31) We answer voicemails in The Chill Zone presented by Coors Light. Tickets for the Live Show are ON SALE NOW! GRONK & JULES PRESENT WELCOME TO THE NUTHOUSE! August 28th at MGM Music Hall at Fenway in Boston.  Get Tickets Here!  Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Super Bowl 18. The silver and black versus the defending chumps. It's the all This is Super Bowl 18 silver and black beat down. Ice Cube version. Welcome to games with names. Today we are looking at Super Bowl 18 Raiders versus Redskins with the one and only President Raiders Nation. Is it the president? Come on, man. You got to get it right, man. President President of Raiders Nation. Is it the President? Come on man, you gotta get it right, man. President of the Raiders Nation?

Yeah, you gotta get it right. President of the Raiders Nation, Ice Cube, welcome to the Nuthouse. It's Raider Nation. Thank you, I'm here, appreciate you. What was that electoral college process like to get elected President of the Raider Nation? Hey, you know, they just killed me. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't no process. What was that electoral college process like to get elected president of the Raider Nation?

Hey, you know, they just king me. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't no process. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. They just king me. I just, you know, gladly accept it. Hey, in one sentence,

why did you pick Super Bowl 18? It was magical for me. Everything came together that day. L.A. had a team to me that represented the L.A. I knew. Before the Rams won, a few years back, this was the only L.A. Super Bowl, winning Super Bowl team that we've had. I had just became a Raider fan really a few years before on their way to beat the Eagles in Super Bowl in 1980.

But they were Oakland. Yeah. Here they Los Angeles and. You know, it was just kind of the best day to be a Raider fan. Is it the great deal chasing that? Is it the greatest game of all time? Am I? You know, it was the greatest. Game of all time, far as a Raider game for me. Well, we ask every we ask every game. Yeah I mean you know there's closer games,

there's other back and forths, but as a Raider, this is the perfect game, this is the best game I've ever seen them play. Awesome and we're gonna jump into it, but what's life looking like these days, Cube? I call you Cube, right? Cube? You call me Cube, right? Cube? Cube?

You can call me Cube. I just, you never know, like, you don't ever want to like step on a guy that you've loved since you were a fucking kid, and now you're in the same room with them and you got to talk to them. Do I call him Mr. Cube? Mr. Cube?

Ice? Just be cool. I haven't moved to Mr. Cube yet. It's coming, but right now it's just Cube. Mr. Cube in a few more years, I'll to Mr. Cube yet. It's coming, but right now it's just Cube. Mr. Cube in a few more years, I'll be Mr. Cube. All right. Yeah. What's life looking like these days?

Everything's great, man. Life is but a dream, you know, it's lovely. I can't complain, you know. I wouldn't rather be nobody else but me. That's awesome. Yeah. You know, we had O'Shea on your son. Yeah.

And boy, first off, he's awesome. And he told us the story of when you took him out of school and you brought him to lunch with The Rock. Oh, yeah. It went crazy. Everyone loved that story. It was amazing. I mean, parents should do that for their kids, man.

Go get them out of school and take them somewhere cool. Yeah. Create a memory for life. It don't get no better for a kid than that. Like, you in school, you thinking, I gotta rot in this damn school for another, whatever many hours. That's how we all think.

And your parents are at the office ready to take you home. So that's the greatest thing ever anyway. That's like a Ferris Bueller shit. I get to go home. Later bums, I'm outta here. You know, you grab it, you grab it on your shit. Hell yeah. So fast, you know what I'm saying? Excited. Bow, you know what I mean? Walking by the rooms. Yeah, you grab it, you grab it on your shit. Hell yeah. So fast. You know what I'm saying?

Excited. Bow. You know what I mean? Walking by the rooms. Yeah, you was like laughing at everybody. Yeah. You're gone. So to not only get him, but then take him to a place like a meeting with The Rock,

which I knew was his favorite person in the world, besides me and his mama. So, you know, I just wanted to give him one of those great memories and it was because he's on podcast talking about it. Man. He's a Rams fan? He's a Rams fan. How do you feel about that? How I feel about it? Yeah. Well, you know, he's his own man. You know, it's a Rams fan. How do you feel about that? Honified. How I feel about it? Yeah. Well, you know, he's his own man. You know, um. It's a good president. You gotta take the bitter with the sweet. That's a good president.

You know, he's his own man. As long as we don't play in the Super Bowl, we won't have no problems. Ooh, that'd be a fun, that'd be a fun Super Bowl. That would not be fun for somebody. It wouldn't. Ooh. Take us through the big three.

We're going into our eighth season. We were just talking about it before the show. I said, you cannot not be a fan of it because you have such, you got household names that we all grew up watching, playing in with new talent in a time where sports are kind of dead right now. Like, ain't nobody watching baseball until you go to, like we all watch baseball when you go to the

Game you want to enjoy the day at the game. I mean postseason baseball is great amazing. That's October though. Yeah, that's October Yeah, you guys hit it perfect by putting it where you put it. How's it doing right now? How are we excited for this season coming in doing great? You know, our ratings are amazing, you know We're on CBS and the vice TV We have 29% More than we were last year. So. Yeah, so that's incredible. You know, like 580,000 people.

That's just, you know, the people that they're monitoring, but you look at all the other people that they don't monitor and you start to see how many people are really into the game. The names you know, playing the game you love the right way. The right way. I mean, the right way, which is the most important. You know, we play the game the right way, you know, fast, physical.

Defense handoff. Defense, trash talking, let players be themselves and themselves and you know not kind of confine them to to being robots, you know, cuz nobody they people getting tired of of Emotionalist sports, you know, I mean we want the fury back in and That's what's happening in the big three going into our you know third game this year and we did pick the sweet spot, you know, we saw this avoid in the industry because after the finals NBA I would hibernate up until we won a football, you know, like a bear and shit you know I'm saying I just wouldn't come out when sports didn't matter until then.

And now we got a season that we can put in there, you know, 10 weeks of fury. Every game matter like in the NFL. Yeah. And, you know, we look forward to every week seeing them battle. And it's fun because it's three on three. Yes. You know what I mean? Everyone plays three on three basketball. I played in a hoop it up contest back in 1993 in Oakland Coliseum in the parking lot.

Yeah. Remember all hoop it up? Yeah. Like that was fun and everyone can relate to that. And it's fun seeing Dwight Howard this year. Seven footers. Playing in a freaking three on three. Yeah. I mean, this is like straight white man can't jump shit. Right? You know what I mean? It's fun seeing Dwight Howard this year playing in a freaking three on three.

I mean this is like straight, white man can't jump shit, right? You know what I mean? Like this is the fun, this is fun basketball. The only thing that got me hot is this whole world Olympic shit where they make it such a hard process for your guys to actually get into

being able to qualify as a team, right? What's that, right? Yeah, I mean. What's that beef? Well, FIBA, they've been running, you know, they've been running basketball for a long time worldwide. USA basketball and FIBA are real close. FIBA has a three on three league, but it's, I mean, it's FIBA, so it's amateur basketball and so they

want our pros to go through the trial process. They got to qualify so many games, but they don't do that for the NBA guys, you know what I'm saying? So we're saying we're the pro version of the sport. We got the best three on three league in the world, and it's not even close. And our guys should be able to qualify just on that merit, just by being able to play in the big three. And and, you know, we should put the best players on the court to win without all these technicalities.

I a thousand percent agree, which I think football is going to run into this with the Olympics and the seven on seven semi. You mean with the flag, the flag? Yeah, I don't think they're going to run into these issues. No, I think they're going to treat it just like they would treat the NBA players Playing in the Olympics. They don't make them qualify. They don't they just put a team together What about the flag football people like, you know, what about them? They have a World League that they compete in regularly very similar to like the FIBA stuff. Haven't you heard the NFL?

Yeah, it's gonna start a professional flag league. Didn't hear. Should I have heard this? You think I would know this? Yes, the NFL is going to start a professional flag league and they're going to be the standard, not the Olympics. I think big three should be the standard and is that offer still stand with Caitlin Clark? Are we getting her in there or what?

Not that we moved on you know the offer Was right for the time? Her agents hated on it, you know, they didn't let her let us talk to to her her family So we never really gave it a chance to kind of plead our case on why we thought it would work. And she would be able to play in the WNBA with our offer too. So she'd been able to play in both leagues

if she was able to handle that. So, but we feel like that ship of sail it's already gone and we're focused on we're focused on the big names we got like Dwight Howard and Lance Stevenson Michael Beasley Joe Johnson Montrez Harold Corey Brewer what's the dream lineup for you big three lineup what's the dream lineup for you big three lineup? What's the dream? Oh, I mean like two years Give me give me some years Two five years five years. What's your dream lineup? Oh, man Steph LeBron Katie Steph LeBron. Okay, good. Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that lineup

Man, what would would they not a lot? So let's put let's put let's paint this picture Man would they what would would they not a lot? So let's put let's put let's paint this picture Mm-hmm Steph LeBron Katie are in the big three in this hypothetical world Olympics come around again, and they're gonna say no to them. Thank you They're gonna say no to them come on now, I don't know Well, let's jump into your sports fandom so we know you're the president of the Raiders Club What other Raiders Nation Raiders Nation now Raiders Raider Raider Nation Raider Nation. Thank you My bad, my bad. My bad. Not a name guy, dude. I'm really bad. I got hit in the head for a living, bro I got hit in the head for a living. All right, that's what you always say

Living all right. That's what you always say I got you know shit ain't gonna work. It only works so far You know I mean take us to the sports fandom of LA you love the Raiders What are the other teams you support here in LA? The Lakers of course like show the Dodgers the Kings They're all kind of good right now. Yeah, you know, both of the soccer squads, you know, and I'm pretty much, you know, the other some of the other teams like the Chargers, they can go back to San Diego. I love for her. I feel bad for San Diego. Yeah, I do feel bad to San Diego. I agree, I love for her.

I feel bad for San Diego. Who did a team? Yeah, I do feel bad for San Diego. I feel bad for San Diego, cause they loved them. They lost everybody. And hopefully the Padres stay there. Padres do not bring your ass to Los Angeles.

Damn. So, you know, those are my squads. Yeah, you know, they all give you something to cheer about. Yeah, they do. I mean, did you, you had to feel something with this new transaction with the Bus family selling the team. Cause I mean, they're such a huge part of the Lakers.

What do you feel when you heard that news? Are you excited? You got to be excited because it's not mom and pop anymore, but it's also kind of part of the legacy of the Lakers. Man, I like the Buss family. Yeah. They did great by LA with the team. I'm happy for them that they cashed out.

You know, I think, you know, somebody come with $10 billion, dollars man to buy a damn team Like you it's not that many people in the world with that kind of money. So you got a cash out Yeah, you know like where you gonna find somebody with 20 billion? I want to put it on to him like how long you gonna make the valuation go up. So They they did the right thing at the right time kind of sad that is not You know, Jenny's not going to be the, you know, final say. And I think she did a great job in her father.

And so we'll see, you know, the new owners are, they winners too. Yeah. They brought, you know, winning baseball to the Dodgers. It looked like the commanders, commanders are going to be pretty good and they got a nice quarterback. And Daniels, he's a fucking beast. That's the best rookie quarterback season of all time. You know, as long as they bring winning basketball, you know, they're get welcome with open arms. Hell. Yeah When'd you start following the Lakers?

man about I mean like Real young probably before I can even remember You know, it was like the Lakers was always on in my house. Always. You know, from Will to Kareem, you know, it was always on. And then when we got Magic is when I turned all the way up. Turned all the way. Yeah. I mean, that was the height. I mean, that's when the basketball really got saved.

Yes. Because of Magic and Larry. Me and my brother. That whole East Coast, West Coast. Yeah, I don't know my brother, my brother CJ, he's nine years older than me. So he, I never really watched college basketball. You know, I was nine, nine, 10 years old.

He was like, you gotta watch tonight. You gotta watch tonight. So what, what, what, what? You gotta see this, there's a player named Magic Johnson. So the word magic made me think magic, you know? I'm nine years old, I'm thinking, damn, he gonna pull a rabbit out of his hat. You know what I'm saying?

I gotta watch this shit. And then he was playing against a bird, you know what I mean? Some dude named Bird. So I'm like, damn, I never heard of a person named Bird. So this is gonna be you know a trip, so I watched it and you know Indiana, Michigan State, I don't know. My brother Happy, you know I'm Happy Magic One because he had the cooler name and and then my brother come a few months later saying,

guess who we got on our team? For as a Laker, I'm like, who? Magic Johnson. Wow. It's like, OK, now I'm all the way, you know, turned on to the game and just became the biggest Magic Johnson fan. Man. Yeah. That's so crazy.

How many championship games have you been to? Have you been to a lot of these LA championships? I mean, you've been in the scene now for fucking ever. Yeah, I've been to, I've been to a few, you know. Like in the late 80s, we were so deep into the music. Early 90s, so deep into the music. So you know, like when the Lakers started winning again in the 2000s, you know, I was

there. I wasn't really there for showtime because, you know, I was doing my thing. I was real young. We was broke. We couldn't get into the form. Yeah. And we wasn't known yet. But by the time we got Shaq and Kobe,

you know, I was there and, you know, loved every minute of it. And then saw the Kings win a couple of them. The great one. Yeah. Now you got Otani. Yeah, now we got Otani, you know, watching the Dodgers win. You know, I used to watch them win at home on TV, but, you know, being there with the Dodgers and the Yankees

last year was just, you know, as a fan, it don't get no better to be, you know, in that position to be able to perform and just be part of the whole celebration. That was fun. And I went to a game, I went to one of these Dodgers games, Die Hard Niners or Giants fan. Yeah, that don't make you a bad guy. It does not. But I mean-

Other stuff does. I think you, did you open up the game? I was at the game or something, you came up on like a car or something. Yeah, do you remember? You was at the game. Or did I see that? You saw that.

Yeah, if you went recently, he did the home opening. Yeah, I brought the trophy. Yeah, it was sick. That is the cool thing about LA. You guys stayed tapped into the LA vibe always. Yeah. You know, it's a- You know like that Super Bowl,

when we had the Super Bowl, you guys all went out. Like, LA's got a cool thing with that. LA is a, you know, it's a proud city with a lot of different flavors, you know. Just not just this one flavor, you know. It's all kind of different, you know, cultural vividness out here. So it's cool that we get to show it in many different ways.

What's your Mount Rushmore of LA athletes? Wow. I would say magic. Okay. You got magic. Um, I would say, uh, Marcus Allen, Marcus Allen, big game. Big game. Um, and baseball. Wow. Would say Marcus Allen Marcus Allen begins. Yeah big game and baseball

Wow Wow, man baseball. That's a hard one. So hockey come on Wayne Gretzky Um, yeah, that's a pretty good Mount Rushmore baseball You know, let me go with Fernando Valenzuela Yeah ball you know let me go with Fernando Valenzuela. Yeah that's a good that's a hell yeah. If you think about it that's pretty damn good in all sports. All champions. It's a hard question for LA too because you can even include USC and like all those that's why I got Marcus Allen in there because he'd both for what he did for USC and he didn't win as you know he'd

never played for the Oakland Raiders he never played for the Oakland Raiders. He only played for the LA Raiders. It's sad. Isn't there like a beef between him and the Raiders though? It was. There was? Did they clean that? They cleaned that up. You know, I saw him, you know, last season

or season before last at a Raider game. You know, he and Mark, Mark's boof, you know, so. I mean, it's pretty cool. It's a question. It's good to have that, cause. It is. You know, you don't want none of that. You know, I interviewed Al Davis.

I was the last person to interview him. Did you? I did a 30 for 30 call. I seen it. Straight out of LA. I've seen it. And I did the last interview. I didn't know that was last though.

Last interview, I got a chance to ask him about it. I remember that, cause I've seen it and I did the last I didn't know that was last though last interview I got a chance to ask him about it. I remember that cuz I've been watching. Yeah, he was like I don't talk about it You know, I don't mention that we're not gonna go into that. I Would say, you know I'm just trying to be a good fucking reporter man. Like this is What you know, this is what the good ones would act so I'm a accent, you know I mean, hey, it's integrity of the art. Yeah, you know, I'm like, I'm gonna go all the way with this shit He og'd it said now, you know he V told it but I had to ask how'd you become a Raiders fan?

Well Um, well, it, I think it was, you know, watching them in that 1980s season. Um, yeah, I was, I was able to really clock the game better than ever. You know, it's like, once you get like 10, you start to be able to clock the sports the right way. You just not happy for whoever win. And I like their style, you know, I like, like my favorite Raiders, they both were the same number. It's Marcus Allen and it's Jack Tatum. And I used to just love how vicious they were playing the game and how

they just seemed like they didn't give a fuck. And, you know, the best colors and sports, the best logo in sports. Best name shit, the Raiders for football team is a great name. So it all just came together and then they end up winning the Super Bowl. best name shit the Raiders for football team is a great name, so It all just came together and then they end up winning the Super Bowl. I didn't think they was gonna win You know that and Roger Worske Eagle to was pretty job formative, you know and so in a

They just played the perfect game that day, you know, great game. Kenny King was amazing. Eddie, your touchdown reception. Yeah. And so I locked in, you know, I was like, yo, this is my favorite team. And a year or so later, found out they was coming to LA. I just lost my shit. Just so happened.

Lost my shit. Yeah, I was like, damn man, I love this team. And they came to the Coliseum, we was able to see the games and it was just, oh, it was just great. That's like a dream come true. Like, were you 12? About 12, 13. That's literally at the peak of

when you're a fan of the game. Yes. Like, when you fall in love, you're playing the game in the streets, you're falling, you can understand it a little, you know the names. Yeah. Oh, are you excited?

I was actually playing football, Pop Warner football. You were playing Pop Warner? Yeah, playing Pop Warner football. So you're 12, you're a Pee Wee. Yeah, I'm Pee Wee. I was a Pop Warner team. We was all right. What was your team name?

Damn, we was the Hawthorne Rams. Pop Warner was huge when I grew up. Me too, everybody played green and white, don't look right. That was the Inglewood team. We used to, we had Oak Grove, the Rough Riders. The Inglewood team, the reason they was, I used to always be like, like damn they got the best names cuz they was called like the Apache's the Cherokees the natives. Yeah, they was like they was like the command cheese the

You felt like you He going into it felt like you just arrows going to be sticking out your ass before you left because the Warriors, the fucking Braves, the, you know. It was. The headdresses and style on the logo. I'm like, damn, we playing the fucking Comanche. It's like, damn. You know, when you 12 that name, it's like, man,

we got to play in Eaglewood too, shit. Hell yeah. I hate playing over there. We got a plan Eaglewood to shit. Hey playing over there like shit ain't number dirt The shitty grass rocks you go You remember who had the good grass? Well, I just go in the grass grass. So Hawthorne had pretty good grass I loved pop Warner pop Warner was huge part of my life. What position did you play? I play fullback and I played a outside linebacker. When'd you stop playing? I stopped playing in high school.

I played one year and then I quit because it was like, football, hang out with Dr. Dre. Football, hang out with Dr. Dre. I mean, fuck this football. How'd that turn out? That turn out okay? I think it hang out with Dr. Dre. I mean fuck this football How'd that turn out that turn out? Okay, you turned out all right I'm saying these you know six four motherfuckers like I also do salute to you playing football in the pros like You had to be

Quick motherfucker to be out there playing in the pros man cuz they big dude, they're big, they're coming fast. They're big. You gotta know how to take a hit, know how to not take a hit. Yeah and everyone's got a superpower. Yeah. If you're up there everyone's got something super. Yeah I get it man. Salute to your game. I appreciate it. You used to always fucking get open too. Man I couldn't, I was it man salute to your game. I appreciate it used to always fucking get open to man I couldn't I was like damn how this motherfucker always getting open Send a lamb you 7-eleven. It's always open and it's always third and 14 third and 37 third and

Six first down first down move to change move the chains. You know, it was like, you was an incredible player. I appreciate that, you know, I was part of the unbelievable team and that was part of my role, it was third downs. You gotta move the chains to score touchdowns and Gronk would score them. That's what I'm saying, man, you was just-

You gotta move them. But how are we looking about this new Raiders? You know, we got TB over there. Is that what the fuck? How do we feel? Fuck rule We got tuck rule guy. It's the fuck rule Rule Brady. Yeah now he's owning the team and he's calling the shots. How do we feel about this Raiders nation? President Raider nation Raider nation. Damn

Raider nation president We'll cut it in You know we feel like We've purged the enemy of their of their superpower That's a Raider move right there. That's a Raider move purged the enemy of their superpower hopefully we can plug it in and Use whatever juice is still left on it.

I'm excited for him. Me too. You know, it's like Pete Carroll. He's a winner. He's a winner. Pete Carroll's a winner. Gene Smith. Smith is the junior quarterback.

I think he's a winner too. I think he got a chip on his shoulder that he ready to get it off. So that sounds like a Raider. get it off so that sounds like a Raider he wanna it sounds like I like to prove to me it's like a Jim Plunkett yeah in a way you know who was a Patriot number was it first pick first pick first pick so it could work how we think about him? I think he's going to be a stud. Yeah, me too. You know, we always pick good running backs, but we don't hold them long enough.

You know, we, I mean, we don't get the pieces around them quick enough for them to do what they do. You know, it's either we pretty good on offense and you know, usually need work on defense. Yeah. Well, I'm excited. I'm excited for the Raiders. I'm always excited for the Raiders. You met with as president of Raider Nation. Have you met with Brady yet to tell them what the.

No, I haven't. I think we should brokerage this meeting. Okay, I'm down. Just so. What I'ma tell him, don't fuck shit up. Exactly. Hey, give him the LA shit. Yeah, don't fuck shit up. Give him the fucking Raiders shit, okay?

You gotta baptize his ass. He stole the soul, he stole the soul. Nah, I'll be like, man, please, please Tell these motherfuckers what to do To get a Super Bowl If you're Tom Brady for a day, what are you doing? Um As Raider owner

Minority owner As as I mean Tom, I don't know how much he really I mean, Tom, I don't know how much he really can do, you know, but but add a lot of suggestions to the suggestion box. You know what I'm saying? Like, questions being an owner and a minority owner in sports is kind of like just being a cheerleader, a super ticket season holder, you know? It is like a super season ticket holder. Um, you, you know, you get invited to a few things, but I don't know

how much they listen to you. Yeah. We're going to find out. Yeah, we'll see a lot of it depends on whoever the governing governing Person person is well mark, you know one thing I like Mark Davis And You know he he's a good dude he'll listen to Smart people. Yeah, no, he's a good dude. He'll listen to smart people. He's not one of those hard-nosed dudes who's not looking to get smarter, get better, figure out who's the best at what they do and let them do what they do without over-interfering.

Sometimes you gotta let people cook. at what they do and let them do what they do without over interfering. Sometimes you gotta let people cook. Yeah, you know, his pops was accused of too much, being in the sauce a little too much. I think he'd take a slightly different approach. He hired the right people and let them do their thing, and they either swim or sink or swim, you know what I mean mean on their own. You got to you know it's tough you know patience is huge that's a tough position to be in because the Holy Trinity in football is

the owner GM head coach that's the Trinity yeah and you actually the quarterback too. It's the Holy quaternary whatever that shit is You know what I mean? So you got to have all those you know, but you got to be patient enough to let it marinate You got let this you got let the meat marinate You can't just you know, you could sit on and put it on the grill that thing sit for 24 hours in the fridge 40 years, you know games are long and You can't panic are long and you can't panic. You know, you can. Like you can't win a game in the first quarter, but you can lose a game in the first quarter.

You know what I'm saying? You could do some stupid shit. So that's real. Sometimes you just got to let the guys play. And to me, it's really like. Sometimes you just gotta let the guys play. And to me, it's really like, owner, cool gym, whatever, head coach. Do the guys, are the guys playing they ass off for this coach?

And if they are, you know, you gotta kinda let it roll. They not playing they ass off for this coach, then it's something you need to do. Yeah, but that, sometimes you don't have the right players for that coach. That's the thing. You know, like the GM brings in these guys that don't acclimate to the system

that they're trying to put them in. That's why it's a Holy Quaternity, whatever the cue, whatever the big four. That's why in the big three, Look at this. We don't have a GM. See, that's why it's a holy quaternary whatever the cute whatever that's why in the big three Look at it. We don't have a gym. See that's why you don't have GM. We have a player captain He gets to pick two co-captains who he's gonna play with see and then they draft two other players So we don't have that problem He art the chemistry is gonna be there. He's not gonna pick a guy He don't think he can win with that. He don't get along with that. He won't go to war with. Yep. I get it. So I

think that the the other sports leagues need to try to learn a little from that because Yeah, Jim can put together a bunch of bullshit, you know what I mean? And that you can't really use on the field or they're not working together. So. But it's one of those things where then you got the owner and then you got the head coach and the GM. The head coach has a meeting with the owner,

says, I don't got the fucking players, man. I don't tell you. Then the GM comes and says, man, we got the best players in the fucking league, but we don't have a goddamn coach And so it's up to a guy that has to make the decision. That's not really a football guy You know usually in in most scenarios someone that's around the game You guys were blessed to have Al Davis who was a fucking coach. Yeah GM Commissioner everything for the league so he knew football he could make those decisions

but a lot of the time these people don't have that ability to know what they're even doing a smart owner to me would know what he don't know and I have a football guy there you go handle that shit there you go I don't hear about it like go talk to my football guy I'm just gonna go sit in the stands with my goddamn family, man. Take pictures. Better win. It better win. Shit. And that's the perfect way to segue in

to win into the next subject. We'll be right back after this quick break. Let's go back into time in January 22nd, 1984, where this game, Super Bowl 18 between the Raiders and the Redskins Took place and go over some of the pop culture number one movie terms of endearment. Which one is that? I don't know, but it was a million dollar budget made a hundred and sixty five million. I Remember this is this a Harrison Ford movie or something? I haven't seen this movie, but everybody I know like all the women I know

that seen this movie say it's the saddest shit ever made like they boohoo because of this Times of Endearment movie. One Academy Award for Best Picture directed by James L Brooks. I mean so it's a big deal. It's a huge deal. I gotta watch it. Number one song, Owner of a Lonely Heart by Yes. Owner of a lonely heart. Owner of a lonely heart. Yeah, I remember that shit. I had the 12 inch of that. Did you?

Yeah. They had a beat. They had a good beat. They had a good beat. That could be had a good be that could be something that could be picked off and like turned into a rap a Rap beat or something. How do they what do they call that? Like we're you know something You know our first song

Tears for fears had a song and it went And then, Fierce had a song and it went, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. And Dre used that for one of our first whack ass songs that he produced for us when we was part of a group called The Stereo Crew. Song called She's a Skag, Don't Look It Up. I gotta check it out. So what was life like for you in 1984 at this time of your life?

Oh man, this was the best time of my life. Like I'm 14, just starting to rap. Actually just starting to rap. Like this second semester, January 22nd. I was in New York, I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York,

and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, and I was in New York, take me to inappropriate movies and shit. I had an older brother seven years. And it was double features back then. So you could see two movies that fuck up your world. You know what I mean?

So Scarface was one of them. I remember when we was going to the movies to see that and I heard him talking that, you know they was going to make this movie rated X? And I'm like, oh, they're talking amongst each other. I'm listening. Rated X? The fuck?

What they taking me to see? What, what, what, what's gonna blow my little mind and shit? I'm fucking 14, like what? Rated X, like they taking me to a porno? I know, who? They say, yeah, but they cut out some scenes that made it rated R. I didn't know what the movie was about or nothing.

I just sat in and Scarface came on and my mind was blown. What did you think? I thought it was the best fucking movie I ever seen in my life. There was not a movie better than this. What part? Every part. I love Tony Montana. I love the story of, you know, this immigrant, you know, being-

Political refugee. Yeah, you know, like being shipped to America and- Hustling his way up. Hustling his way up to the top of this shit and like coked out his mind and fucking shoot up, you know, like get it get his shit shot up like it was the perfect movie That was a fun movie run DMC first album is the first album I ever bought with my own money And this is the same year that you started rapping? This is the same year. So the huge influence? Huge influence, Red DMC.

Bought this record with me and my man Ronnie Smith down the street. I think I had $7, he had $6. And we bought the record because it was like $12.99. Where, warehouse? No, we bought it at a record store that was in our neighborhood called VIP records it was a in the Crenshaw shopping center and we walked up there and

Bought the record walked home now was fucked up. I would keep the record three days. He tried to keep it for He had more money now always fight over that who had it, you know, that fourth day, you know what I mean? So yeah, that's what I remember from that record. Sounds like co-parenting. Yeah, it was. It was for a record. I walked down there knocking on his door early in the morning and shit his mother, what do you want? I want my record. He's asleep. Can you go get it? No. You know what I mean want? I want my record. He's asleep. Can you go get it? No.

You know what I mean? Send me back home without the record and shit. I'm like mad. These kids don't even know. Yeah. Like I barely know about that because I mean, I was on CDs. Yeah, you know.

My parents were on the, like that in A-Tracks. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like a record was, you couldn't hear it unless you had the record. Or unless you got lucky and heard it on the radio. Man who gonna wait up for that? All day. You waiting all day to hear some shit. That's what was buying the record was so magical. It was. You had the actual song. You owned it. You owned it. It was yours. Yeah nobody else might even had that record. No. They couldn't listen to this shit till you played it. Gave you a

little clout. A lot of clout. Why don't couldn't listen to this shit till you played it. Gave you a little clout. A lot of clout. Why don't you come to my house? I got it. I got the record. Mom's not there. Yeah, we can play loud. We turn it all the way up.

We just turn this shit up, open the doors, play the music for the whole neighborhood and shit. That's fun. Working the day. That is fun. We had water balloon fights and shit. Man. Music blaring, parents going to work. We just literally

Basically Friday. Yeah, just acting. He's literally just it was Friday. Yeah, it was fun That's one of my favorite movies too, by the way. Thank you. That is that's such a fun movie Smokey you take it a shit Yeah, I mean you got Q in your house you gotta drop a fucking Friday line. So NFL champions were the Raiders, the Natties for the NCAA, the U. This is 1984. Is that Jim Kelly U? That's the Jim Kelly U?

Oh wow. That's the Jim Kelly U. Oh wow. That's the Jim Kelly you. Yeah, gotta be. Wow. Joe Theismann was the MVP who the Raiders beat. That's what I thought. That's why I thought we was gonna lose the game. He was that good that year.

You remember him being that good. The Redskins was, they was on fire. Joe Gibbs. They was out screwing the shit out of everybody. Bernie Kosar. Bernie Kosar. And Vinny Tessifredi was backing him up. I remember Bernie. I remember Mike Roseau too. It was I'll screwing the shit out of everybody Bernie Kosar Bernie Kosar. He was back in the morning Bernie Yeah, Mike Rosario, too

Cuz I was actually a Still playing football You know me. I didn't quit until a You know my next year 80 like September 84 Yeah, and this is the year You know, my next year, like September 84. Damn, and this is the year Celtics Lakers, so you're fully. Man, I was so hurt. I get into basketball really fully, like 1979.

Lakers get Magic 1980, win the championship. So we're tripping 81, lucky shot by the Rockets, win the championship in 82. 83, lose the championship, cuz few of our players was hurt, lost to the Sixers. So now we're about to play the Celtics. My brother got this sick ass look on his face. I'm like, why you look like that?

He was like. Older brother, nine years, got a lot of wisdom. He said, man, we can't beat them. I was like, what? Are you out your rabid ass mind? We got Magic Johnson and Kareem We gonna beat the shit out these punks He said man, I don't set through a lot of these I said, oh He he just he remember

He remember like is always losing to the Celtics. Oh and So we get in this game and They fucking lose they lost they lost that shit. I was just this was the worst Finals that I ever felt was this loss right here in 84 But then you get you jump in but next year they won next year they won but it ain't this loss right here in 84. But then you jump in. But next year they won. Next year they won. But it ain't next year right here.

Yeah. This is the first time we play in my kind of, in my lifetime so to speak. And it's the same old fucking song. You know, it's like Jerry West and Elgin Baylor all over again. Yeah, but I mean you guys won a couple years before Not against the Celtics

It was it was psychological that is psychological warfare. It was it was it was it was the worst man I had to do seven games cuz you know you right there I had one game better than us. So when did older brother come in and tell you that before the series once they knew it was the Lakers vs. The Celtics. He said right away. He knew they had that look on his face And he knew and that ruined did you were you thinking about that the whole I was thinking no He's talking about those gonna beat him and then old brother was right. It's just like fuck Yeah, he was right Olympics held in Los Angeles. You remember that I remember that that you go any other events nothing. I was broke Yeah, I didn't go to shit. I would have tried watching on TV

I don't really care and you know, I was in the hip-hop like Hip-hop was more important than anything so I was in Compton all the time. That's your brother right here? That's my brother CJ. Is that him? CJ man he's got he's got he got the he knows he said a couple things that we've already said yeah Michael Jordan gets drafted third overall Mario Lemieux number one in hockey. What a year for sports, 1984. This is a fucking year. Yeah, this is an incredible year for LA Sports for sure.

Now, what do you remember of Jordan when you were a kid? Amazing. Like when you were here? I remember when he hit that shot. You know, he hit the shot. North Carolina? North Carolina because we actually watching James Worthy that game.

James Worthy was actually the man, not Jordan. Worthy was a senior and Jordan was a freshman. So we like, you know, Worthy is the man. And it's a trip because after the game we get Worthy and Lakers get Worthy and you know Jordan he just goes on this fucking tear like Not his it doesn't seem like after he won the championship his first year. He was just kind of dominant but they didn't win the championship, but when he When he got out and was like doing the Olympic trials

he was just killing shit like you know him being drafted third was Was ridiculous to me. Yeah, who's like he was killer shot. No, they was all after the seven footers by then and Who went first you mean Elijah one the logical. Yeah, I understand that Who went first? You know him? Elijah Wan. Elijah Wan. I understand that. I understood Sam Perkins too. You know, he big coming off of an NCAA championship run.

You ever get to meet MJ? Yeah, I met him. Like early in the world when you guys were jumping in hip hop and shit. Like he's kind of like the hip hop of fucking basketball. Yeah. If you think about it. I met him um you know probably like 97. Yeah. At a Nike it was a Nike town event on Wilshire and he was in there and I said, what's up MJ? He said, what's up? He said, you know I said, I told people Friday

was my favorite movie and that shit got me in trouble. How'd it get you in trouble? You know all the weed y'all smoking in that damn movie. I was like, it's shit funny. He said, shit funny. I remember like, this shit funny, this shit funny. I remember you shook my hand, this shit felt like baby foot or something. It was soft as fuck.

Like, you ain't never did a intro work in your goddamn life. My daddy hands feel like cheese grater. Your fucking hands feel like a baby wipe. Did you say anything to him? Nah, I just just clocked it. You know you six six so this shit was big and it just felt like a pillow grabbed my hand. I said damn, you ain't did nothing but bounce a basketball your whole fucking life. Damn. If I thought to myself, I don't know why, but I just thought that. MJ got soft hands. He got some soft ass hands.

Shoot that motherfucker so good. Got them soft paws. It probably like a. Yes. Damn. Sweet. Who was the first cool athlete you met when you were coming up?

Muhammad Ali. Oh. Yep, and we was a year's that man. This had to be 80 87. Wow. We uh, it's a trip. We coming out of this place called McCollough, where we used to get our records pressed out because we was independence and a ruthless we would go right there on Hollywood was Santa Monica So Santa Monica and Vine all around there and uh We'd been there we just walking out walking out of there shit, and we saw fucking Muhammad Ali crossing the street by itself fucking Muhammad Ali crossing the street by itself

What's up, man? It's like how y'all doing? You know, Johnny and I say we make we make records and shit And they say I'm heck you don't positive things man, you know boom boom boom. He had to keep it moving Oh, gee, I was like damn this chat like this is the greatest of all time right here Yeah, he bigger myself to he was a big dude like by himself by herself. I see Laura disease have aura. He had a war Yep, he had a war to him Charming joy to huh? I charming as fuck. Yeah, you know, it was all love. It was like Seeing one of your uncles and shit, you know, I mean it was just

It was like seeing one of your uncles and shit, you know, I mean it was just All it was he was as great as you would think he would be to to a stranger, you know Oh, yeah to a couple of strangers because we was all you know, I mean we was Groupie to fuck out, you know is this the champ? Yeah lucky we let him leave this shit is like man ask him all kind of questions and shit You guys are young too. Yeah. We lucky we let him leave and shit. It was like man, asking him all kind of questions and shit. You guys are young too. Yeah, we, you know, 16, 17, 18.

And he's the GOAT. He the man. That was, that had to be. Yeah. Can you explain to me the relationship between hip hop and sports? Oh man. Hip hophop like

Sports without music Is just a game That's how I can explain it the music Makes it all magical, you know even See y'all highlights With the music it feels like it's, uh, you know, kind of in concert with each other, you know, it's a movie. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's the soundtrack of the, you know, other than you guys breathing and grunting and running and, you know, know and and all the sounds of the game but

To add that music to it. It turns it like into poetry emotion so I think it's inspirational too. It is you know guys pull Motivation guys going everyone's got a pregame list. Yeah, you know, I mean everyone's got something that helps them Everyone's got a pregame list. Yeah, you know, I mean everyone's got something that helps them Focus and somebody playing like some pregame soft shit. You're looking at them crazy like man That's what you get hyped up on. You know, I mean shawty. I just like Bob Marley You know I'm saying so you want you want to hear that rough shit. You ready to go? I would so this is how I used to do it my pregame mix. It used to be real hard

real So this is how I used to do it. My pregame mix, it used to be real hard, real high energy. Yeah. But as I got older, I got into movie music, like instrumentals. Yeah. So I could focus and visualize what I was gonna do on the field. So I listened to some fucking Hans Zimmer fucking Inception fucking soundtrack and shit.

And like put myself like I was like in it. Feel you. You know what I mean? That's smart because that is situational music. Cause sometimes I get too involved in the lyric. Yep. So then I'm thinking about the lyric, but I wanna make my own lyric.

And you can also like burn out too, too quick. Like you get too hyped. And you know, you dead by the third quarter. Like it's not a sprint. You ready to stop playing football. You know, it's like, you don't have your fill of the day. 1000%. So you want to make sure you not too

giving up too much energy Before the game 1000 we'll be right back after this quick break Let's jump into the game Let's break down this game and then let's grade this game So do the Redskins real quick watching Redskins record of 14 and two head coach or Joe or 10 and 2 There were the reigning Super Bowl champs the year before yep they scored more points than any team in history

any regular season at this time with 541 chugging not still ninth all time also John Riggins had 24 rushing touchdowns this year which was the most season up in this point defense was stout also down also only allowed 332 points this season and future Hall of Famers from this team, Darryl Green, John Reagan's Art Monk, Russ Grimm, Joe Gibbs and Bobby Beathard. Man, this is a formidable opponent, man. Like this is. Your worst nightmare going into the Super Bowl,

a team this good who just beat the shit out of the last team they played in the Super Bowl, a team this good, who just beat the shit out of the last team they played in the Super Bowl. So, I was nervous as hell going into this game. Now, I got a real quick question. What did CJ tell you before this game? Because CJ had a little too much to drink before this came. So this is the only Super Bowl I watched dolo. Dolo solo?

Solo. Where? In my room, door closed. I was too focused. They were too loud. Too loud? I wanted to hear everything they were too loud. I wanted to hear everything that was going on. I didn't want to miss nothing and they were.

Too hyped. They was just too fucking loud. Sound like my dad. And conversations that didn't have shit to do with the game. You know what I mean? You know, it's like, you know, at least Plunket ain't gonna stay out all night like Stabler. You know, it's like they just... Just talking loud.

Yeah, and I'm gonna want to hear the pregame. I want to hear everything. Like, this is the most important game. I'm super focused, you know. I'm so into... I play football. So I'm like into the X's, the O's, the this, the that. And so I didn't want to hear that shit.

I didn't want to hear them crying about the game the whole time. I get it. My dad does the same thing when he watches games. He'd rather watch it at home on his couch by himself. So people won't talk to him. Yes. And one more thing about this rescue team,

it was the Vaunted Hogs offensive line. The Hogs. They was like the biggest offensive line. All of them was 300 pounds at the time. Before that was a thing. They made it a thing. The Hogs made 300 pound linemen a thing. All across the board.

Gibbs. Yeah. Love to run that rock. Yeah. Now what about these, these LA Raiders? This was their second year in LA. They went 12 and 14, head coach Tom Flores, Jim Plunkett was benched mid-season.

Mark Wilson broke his shoulder three games later. Plunkett took back over in the rest of his history. Yeah. Marcus Allen rushed for over a thousand yards. They were anchored by a pretty significant defensive line, including Howie Long, Lyle Alzato, Reggie Kinlaw, and Greg Townsend. Hall of Famers from this team,

Cliff Branch, Marcus Allen, Howie Long, Ted Hendricks, Mike Haynes, former Patriot, Ray Guy, Panther, and Al Davis. Lester Hayes too. They had not just Hayes. Yeah, Lester Hayes. Lester Hayes too. Lester Hayes was the man. They would just lock the jokers up on the

outside, beat you up, and blitz the fuck out of you. Yes. That's what they did all game if you watch this game. They say, hey Haynes and Haynes, you two have them. Everyone else, let's go get this fucking quarterback. It was a pump block for a touchdown right off the first fucking the first drive yeah and that uh Interception by uh the the nickel linebacker Yeah, like he never plays but he comes in but they put that play in because they beat him with that play That year in the regular season and they redid it and then they redid it and when they redid it they made a nickel Linebacker so they subbed him in right before that play. It was fucking crazy. Good coaching.

This game couldn't have went no better. As far as like blowout Super Bowl, you happy your team is going to win? Because I just was nervous before the game. Like man, we good but goddamn they great Didn't didn't realize how great we was about to be but that's how you should always feel when you go into a war Respecting your opponent. Yeah, you know, I mean, that's how I felt every time I went into They're playing the last game for a fucking reason exactly, you know what I mean? They they have four wins to get to this spot just like us.

They just want to shoot by the year before. They want to shoot, you know, that's a good place to be in because then you never over or never underestimate them. You know, and then you surprise yourself. What does it mean to be a Raider to you, Q? You know, to play the game, to win. But pick your own rules sometimes, you know, fuck the rule book and got to always adhere to somebody else's structure, you know.

I was trying to get the seven. That's a lot of ways to get the you know, four plus three, three five plus two six plus one Zero plus seven so and I always got to go the way they wrote it up. Yeah And that's the Raider way. Yeah. Now is this I closed with an eye patch on two. I don't get that. So how's he's The symbol guy is I yeah his eyes closed, but he got a patch too. His eye is not closed. His squinty eye?

He has no eye. The eye is not there. But if you look at it, his eye is closed and then he is a patch on his other eye. Well, that's- So he can't see. That glare that you see, that's not a squint, that's a glare. He's looking through you. He's He's looking through look like lunch. He's looking at his family That's that gangster glare. That's gang. You know there that's the gangster glare fucking you guys are just modern-day poets That's all you guys are

Rappers are like they seriously every time I'm around a rapper these guys just they always come Rappers are like they seriously every time I'm around a rapper these guys just they always come Have a fucking saying right away offer it. That's just how it goes. Just the truth of the logo I know the history of the logo. It's called the gangster glare committed to a 60 Al said I want the fucking gangster glare gangster glare. That's what we got and that's what we got Who's who's the ultimate Raider to you? Uh, Jack Tatum Tatum. Yeah You know he uh He looked like

That he'll do everything that a Raider is supposed to do to you Poke your eye out all that You think a Raiders supposed to do to you poke your eye out all that anything you think a Raiders supposed to do to you he looked like he can pull it off now I know this is Flores team did you ever have a relationship with Madden though no I stayed a fan man you know I I don't like really crossing that line too much because I like being a fan. Yeah. You know, I don't want to, you know.

I get it. Yeah, I just want to, I want to be a fan. I don't want to influence the game in no way, shape or form. Like, you know, I'm funny about giving pep talks and shit. Yeah, it's like, you guys are pros, y'all know what to do. You don't need me, my little fucking, lame-ass knowledge of the game to try to tell y'all how to win.

Yeah, but it's not about that. You're a person that, like when someone like you would come talk to our team, you could always pull from something. You're at one of the highest levels Of where you are in your industry in multiple industries So if you can't pull from something like that to help you in yours and you're a fool dig it You know, I mean I've done it before I get it though. I don't I don't seek it. Yeah, you know to me is I

Don't really even like being on the sideline doing a game cuz I know I don't want to be the distraction I don't want somebody looking at me and somebody like Get your ass in what you don't get your ass in there what you do look at him for you know I'm saying like I want I want I want them to focus on the guy cuz I want my team to fucking win I didn't come out there just fucking for no hell Spent all that money on parking and shit For L. Well, I could have stayed home for L. We need a W comfortable eating good food Yeah, better use of it. It's hard to go to a game now

Yeah, you got to be you gotta be ready for the adventure now who's a player that you watched maybe play that was never a Raider that you thought should be a Raider man mean Joe green Joe green yeah mean Joe green player we asked we asked Terry Bradshaw if mean John Green was actually as mean as he was and Terry was just like yeah He was never be fucking face off Jack Lambert Kent State alum with the same school. Yeah, check Lambert no teeth Yeah, I used to love that You know, it's a few dudes out there. I think could have been a Raider, you know, I mean Ronnie lot was but um buddy a niner Yeah, Steve at water. I want one of those

Brian Dawkins block off Nice to hear a little biblical. It could be a little too long. I think Yeah, he does a lot of pretty no I don't think he saw he lit me up once and like prayed for me after that's not what a Raider would do. No No, he'd need he need That's not what a Raider would do. Nah, nah, he need to walk the plank for that. How weird was it when Jerry came over? Cause that's when I started liking the Raiders low key.

Jerry? Right. Jerry was sweet. Sweet. Yeah man, that dumb ass Calloway lost the Super Bowl. Oh. Yeah, that Calloway man. That ball.

Oh Lord, that, yeah, he just gave it away. So, unfortunately he couldn't win a ring with us. I know. He was supposed to. That was like a fucking movie. They literally trade John Gruden to the team that beats them in the Super Bowl. Yeah.

How fucking crazy is that? It should be investigated. That's how crazy it is. I mean, you go back and look at every fucking second and frame of that Super Bowl. Well, you think there was a rule broken? I think Bill, dumbass Callahan didn't change the game plan that Gruden created. That's self-inflicted. Yeah. didn't change the game plan that Gruden created. That's self-inflicted. Yeah. Didn't change a formation. Didn't. Did not change one formation. And we lost our center. Mexico? Yeah, yeah.

He went to Mexico. He go to Mexico and shit and like... Didn't come back. Yeah. Super Bowl. Him and the donkey fell in love with some shit like that that's crazy my life it was the worst day of my remember that too oh man it sucks so bad to be in the San Diego trash-ass stadium, which I knew was

a sign, we was winning the fucking Sissy White, I knew that was a sign. What did CJ say? Did he give a sign? Oh man, he, you know, I think I went to this game. I think he stayed at home, but man, you know, I think he was drunk then too let's get into this game mm-hmm so quick lead up both teams the number one seed from their respective conferences I'm the Super Bowl Washington beat the LA Rams 51 to 7 and then the Niners 24 21 the Raiders beat Pittsburgh 38 10 and the Seahawks 30 14 this you mentioned earlier but this is notably a week 5

rematch a regular season game where Washington eked out a 37 to 35 win Shout out to how we long for having five sacks in that game five sacks Hey, he's a beast and this game you mentioned earlier total blowout, but it started with a punt block Derek Jensen with the scoop and score Then in the second quarter Plunkett found branch for a 12-yard touchdown to make it 14 nothing Then in the second quarter, Plunkett found Branch for a 12-yard touchdown to make it 14-0. Before the half, Washington got greedy trying a screen pass from their own 12-yard line, and Jack Skwerik picked it off and had a pick six. Which they scored on in the week five game, which I believe that came and made the turning

point of the game after that, was in the second half. I believe Washington went down and scored, didn't they? Because everyone was talking about the 17 point comeback from week five. I think the turning point of this game was LA jumped up 21-7 or three, I think, right? 21-3. 21-3, yep.

And then the other team, they scored, they came down and had a big play, scored. Yeah. And then the Raiders came back and answered. And that was when it was like, all right, it ain't coming back this time. Yeah, it was over. It was dunzee. That Marcus Allen run, that run was so- Cold.

Yeah, it was next level. I don't know if I ever seen somebody like turn around in the backfield and then go untouched like floating yeah, like kind of get stopped on a sweep and like cross for you turn it around and Then not get touched all the way to the end zone. He looked so smooth when he ran. Yeah He was just smooth. He was holding the ball Man, he was to me one of the best running backs to ever do it. Hell. Yeah

because of his size is Is you know the way he made the game? He made the game seem easy. He played forever too. Yeah, and far as short yardage on the goal line, I'll take Marcus Allen over anybody, anybody in the backfield. Give me Marcus Allen when his first and goal from the one or the two. He always scored, always.

Never seen him get stopped. He leaped too, didn't he leap? He would leap, he would slice through. You taking him over Bo Jackson, a healthy Bo Jackson, third and one and two? Or it's fourth and goal on the one. Taking Marcus Allen over Bo Jackson. Taking Marcus Allen.

Healthy Bo Jackson? Taking Marcus Allen. Healthy Bo Jackson. Yep. Because I think, I think Marcus Allen can do what Bo can do, but I don't think Bo can do what Marcus Allen can do from that one yard line. Ooh. I think Marcus had more power than people thought. He just dropped the son his leaping ability and his

His nose for the end zone was unmatched in the pros, you know, I don't know what what uh What both did in college? you know like both only one that can run a Solo sweep like nobody else go there just Just give him the ball and let him run. Like he did a sweep and he didn't want no blocking. Like nobody peel off and block for me. Y'all just get out of my way. Stick your foot in the ground and go.

Yeah. Took it to the house. Ran over a dude and took it to the house. I mean, he looked like a bull. Yeah. He was 235 pounds and took it to the house. I mean he looked like a bull. Yeah. He was 235 pounds and faster than everyone. Yes. That's fucking, that's like not human.

That's scary, yeah. That's terrifying. Yeah. He was a fucking monster. Yeah. What stood out about this game, like to you? When were you comfortable? When were you excited?

You're in your room by yourself, you're what, 12, 14 years old? Don't wanna talk. When did you fucking say the fat lady sang? I don't even know if we can say that anymore. I start feeling good on that second, that Squierick picked six before the half. That was it?

That was when I felt like we good enough to beat this team. Like they're not better than us today. I thought they were a better team than the Raiders going into the game. And I thought the Raiders was going to have a very hard time keeping up with this team, let alone beating them. Yeah. And they shock, and they blow them out. Blow them out.

It wasn't even close. It was the best feeling in the world. How'd you celebrate? I drew a poster. You drew a poster? I drew a poster. I drew the writer, a logo, drew the Raider logo but he had like fucking vampire teeth and shit with blood dripping and I was like Raiders beat the dead skins 38 to 9 and I was

downtown on my brother's shoulders holding holding this fucking sign up. Yeah, at the parade. Can you draw? Pretty good? It was like, I used to be great. See, I stopped doing it. You're touched by God, bro. You got that creative shit. Thank you.

Like, you can draw, you can, man, that's. Right. You always, you know, you always kind of want what you don't have. Like, I'm an athlete and stuff, but I always see how these, you know, like how people in different, you don't, I mean, you're definitely very blessed, you know, but you know what I mean?

You're like, damn, that would be cool if I could just pick up something. I want to win a Super Bowl too. Well, you did. You're the president of the Raider Nation. Yeah, I'm the president then. Not yet. I haven't won as president.

We'll get there soon. We got Brady. Yeah. They got Brady. Raiders win 38-9 for their third Super Bowl. Marcus Allen at 191 yards and two touchdowns. Super Bowl MVP? Super Bowl MVP.

198. The Raiders became the second team in NFL history with three Super Bowls joining the Pittsburgh Steelers. They also became the first team to score in all three phases in a Superball. And then in 1995, the Rays would leave LA and move back to Oakland and then eventually end up in Las Vegas. How we feel about that when they left? You know, at the time, I wasn't really, I was so deep into trying to be the best rapper

in the world. Yeah. I wasn't halfway paying attention because I just knew, you know, they suck now. All the good players were gone pretty much. We had fucking Mike Shanahan who came in and just destroyed the whole aura of the team. And nobody was going to the games and they wasn't winning so LA you know we won't win you're gonna have some empty seats so it was time. Them and the Rams went the same day they both left town the same day. They both left town the same day. They both played their last game I

think on Christmas Eve 1994, 94 some shit like that or five. They both was gone. Gone. Yep. Because that's when I remember football. I don't remember the LA Raiders. That's when I was like... That don't remember the LA Raiders. That's when I was like. That don't make you a bad guy. I was nine right there. When they moved out there. I was like, yeah, whatever, the Raiders are here. Niners family.

Yeah, the 49ers was coming alive by then. Well, they were still right in the heat of the late 80s, but Joe was gone, so my family was kind of divided. Like, we were huge Joe Montana fans Yeah, and when they replaced him with Steve and they traded it like my dad's like stop beat We were we became chiefs fans for a sec Because like how do Steve Young get in the Hall of Fame before Michael Irving? Can you explain that to me? What do you mean? How does he get in the Hall of Fame before Michael Irving?

Did Mike not get in first ballot? I Don't know Mike. I Mike not get in first ballot? I don't know, Mike, I know Steve. Mike's in. He's in, but Steve Young made it in before. Steve Young had some records though, like some single season shit. There's quarterback bias like crazy too. And there's quarterback bias.

Yeah. And he got a Super Bowl at that time. Yeah, you know, I just say USFL, I say Tampa Bay, I say NA. BYU. Yeah. I get, I just say you I said Phil I say Tampa Bay I say nay You are you yeah, I get I mean I just say the route was just Funky. Yeah, but yeah, then he throw for like six touchdowns in a Super Bowl against the charger Like he had some yeah, he had some insane like single season shit Like I'm talking like that, but he wasn't Jerry he was already get in there before Michael Irvin who came in doing his thing I

mean I know there was one in five but he won Super Bowls with the same team yeah didn't wasn't a backup I can't argue that I'm not gonna sit here and argue he beat a Steve in a few I just had a problem with that one like you know I think Michael Irwin deserved to be in there first. Mike's in there though. Yeah he's in there 07 Steve Young got it in 2005. Two years before. Yeah. They came out they both leave the same year. I don't know looking when they're retiring. Maybe it's a year thing. It could be because they retired a year off. Maybe they retired the same year. No, they do wide receivers dirty. They T.O. didn't get in his first ballot, which they are pretty tight with the wide receivers. Bullshit. I'm with you right there. I'm with you. We'll be right back after this quick break. Let's grade this game. This is clearly the legacy of this game is that it's LA's first championship. Mm-hmm with the football team Yes, so that that's the high grade to me. That's a high grade. Yeah, what do we name this game?

These are some of the names we came up with silver and black beat down the black hole one this one's for Al Marcus Allen game just one baby What do you like or do you have something else the silver and black beatdown? Silver and black beat down name the game score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? No, how we long picked just one baby how we long pick just one baby, but you know that the president Be down is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Q. Stakes zero to 10, 10 being the best ever. What are the stakes of this game? First Superbowl in L.A. with an L.A. football. Despo points encouraged. Oh, points also encouraged.

I mean, I'm going to give it a 10, 10. Yes, 10. So we scored this game with with how long Jack had a nine point two out of nine I'll be I'm gonna give it a 10 10 Yes, 10 So we were this game with with howie long jack at a 9.2 at a 9.1 howie long had a 9.0 what? Well, you got to think about we've we're doing we're trying to grade the greatest game of all time Yeah, I get it. They've already won a Super Bowl and then they go into the Super Bowl the stakes that games Yeah higher than the stakes of a single season regular But yeah, but for you this could be the highest for you because it's LA. It's LA. This is our first You know shot at a Super Bowl after the Rams lost to the Steelers and They did it this time. So I think that's

And it was the only one for 30 years 30 What about the star powers there to ten decimals? Okay, a lot of Hall of Famers and a lot of Hall of Famers Famers man, I gotta go with you know it's definitely a 8.5 8.5. I think you got to go back to the Cowboys and the Steelers to get more star power. You know, it's like, but yeah, 8.5.

I will say, usually the halftime show bumps up the star power score. This year was Disney. It was a Disney halftime show. Yeah, that might bump it down, but keep going. That hurts it a little bit. Jules? I went with a nine. Jack had an 8.5.

I had an 8.8. Howie had an 8.9. Yeah, that's pretty high. All right, the gameplay of the game. This was a blowout, but there was a score in every phase of the game, only time it's been done in Super Bowl history. So if you're like a football person, you might like it.

But if you're a viewer of the losing team got blown out or sometimes people want some fireworks but zero to ten decimals okay Q. And the Raiders played a hell of a game too. I would just give it a seven point five on gameplay because one team was amazing the other team was bullshit. It's an integrity score. Yeah. I went 8.7, I was terrified of Howie when I was doing it. I graded it in front of Howie, so I was fucking terrified, so I had to give it an 8.7. Nah, the Redskins didn't play good.

Jack's had a 6.4, I had a 5.0, because the Raiders had a perfect game, but the Redskins didn't, and then Howie had a 9.0. The name of the game the silver and black beatdown. Come on now that's the best name on the board I'm gonna give it a 10. 10. Well I gave it a 10 too. That's the best name on the board. Peer pressure. Jack had a 9.0 I had a 8.1. I mean the Marcus Allen game would be appropriate too but we gotta say the Raiders in our phases kicked ass

So the average of all of our scores is 85.9. Where does that lead in? That puts us tied With our 16 with the Super Bowl 36 Patriots versus Rams and just behind Super Bowl 34 Titans versus Rams. Theest show on turf, the longest yard. That's too high. It's too high. That Super Bowl was, it was kind of boring to the end. The greatest show on turf?

Yeah, it was a low scoring game. Went down to the last play, a foot from the goal line. I'll say it was boring to the end. So I ain't gonna go with that one I think your Super Bowl against the Rams was way better and more entertaining I wasn't in there. That was yeah way better. Our number one was a 28 to 3 comeback. I don't there's no bias or anything It's not the greatest look at the top five. There's no bias. There's no bias or anything. That's not the greatest game. Look at the top five, there's no bias at all.

There's no bias in any of these. Cute. I just say it, dude. Damn, ain't that something. The Malcolm Butler game. Who? It's actually Jack that makes some high nuttules. I mean, Super Blood Wolf Moon game, the FC Championship.

Yeah, that 28-3 game was, that was some shit, because I remember watching that game, had a house full of people and we going crazy because we want the Falcons to win. No offense but the Patriots was, they had hurt so many of our hearts over the years. We was like, you know, let's get one for the A. And everybody's talking during halftime, we drinking food everywhere, halfway paying attention to the game. And I'm like looking out the corner of my eye and I'm just seeing like I'm starting to do the math in my head like do they have enough time if they scored

If they get the ball back if they oh they got the ball, but oh shit They what and it goes from us not paying attention to shit to the everybody slowly but surely locking back into the game to see the comeback and You know, I'm talking to my friend from Atlanta and shit and he just, he almost shit a chicken, man. He was so fucking beside himself. You know what I'm saying? He was so beside himself.

And he just, I was like, man, like, we're gonna do a wellness check on you later on tonight because don't kill yourself over no fucking game, man. Like, it was bad, it was bad, but it was a great fucking comeback. You know what? I'm gonna pull from something from this episode. You said you were what, 14, you went and saw Scarface?

Yeah. People like you need people like me to say that's a fucking Scarface. Yeah. People like you need people like me to say that's a fucking bad guy. Yeah. That's the bad guy. We're the fucking bad guy. Yes, we are. I just felt like it was playable.

You know, everyone needs a fucking bad guy to look at and say that's a bad guy. That's him. He can punch a fucking finger. You can punch a finger. He can punch a fucking finger and say that's the bad guy. That's a fucking bad guy. Look at him. I could punch a fucking finger. You could point your finger. He could punch a fucking finger and say, that's the bad guy. That's a fucking bad guy.

Look at him. I'm the fucking bad guy. Look at him. You know, the Patriots were the fucking bad guys. Hey, it's cool. It's all good. You know, this is what you want, football. You need,

you need a threshold. You need something to chase. And the great thing about this league, there was a time where it was you guys. And there was a time when it need something to chase. And the great thing about this league, there was a time where it was you guys. And there was a time when it was the Niners. Still is. And then there was a time, and now it's the Chiefs. Yeah.

You know, who's it gonna be next? Who's next? Is it gonna be the Chiefs? Eagles. Is it the Eagles? Or is it not? Q, did we miss anything from this game? We didn't miss anything.

Dude, I'm so appreciative of your time. You gave us an hour 30 Thank you. Everyone go out and check out big three Saturdays and sundays this summer on cbs and vice. What is the truth to power? Oh man? That's that's my tour that i'm doing uh in the in the fall uh I've been in the game 40 years, man. I started rapping in 1984.

Made my first hit song when I was 16 in 1985. A song I wrote called Boys in the Hood for Eazy-E, Rest in Peace. You got like four decades in the game. It's time to celebrate with a big tour, you know, so we're doing a big production to celebrate You know from NWA to now we got some were you hitting like all cities or what? Yeah, we hitting everywhere we go in Boston. Of course. I'm gonna have to check it out here in LA and in Boston I want to check it out Cuz if you have it't, like you said,

it's crazy that rap and hip hop have a, they have 40 years under the belt now. Isn't that gnarly? Cause you guys, some dudes got 60 years under the belt. That's what I mean. Like that, it's come that far. Yeah, it is. And like you're a huge part of it

and it's such a pleasure and an honor to have you here in the NUT house To talk about the game. I love football because you're the president of Raider nation, which is a cornerstone Organization for the game that I fucking love. Yeah. Yay. So I appreciate you coming in here Everyone go check out the tickets to the tour truth to power tour the four decades of attitude We all know every song we all wrapped every song tickets at ice cube calm Last Friday on the way last Friday last Friday's on the working on it. No, yeah, we getting it

We working on the game plan right now You know give me in there man came you I keep you my all right. Keep me in mind Just you need a square white you. I'll keep you in mind. All right, keep me in mind. Just you need a square white dude, I'm right there. Nerd, something, I can roll. I can roll with it. No problem man, I got you. Thank you bro, I appreciate you coming in.

Anytime, every time. Man. Cube, what the fuck? He's... You were so nervous. I was that nervous? Yeah. Was I?

Yeah, yeah, you could tell. You settled in when he was like cool, but you were nervous. You get nervous. Fucking nice Cube. I know, I was so nervous. I was that nervous? Yeah. Was I? Yeah, yeah, you could tell. You settled in when he was like cool, but you were nervous. You get nervous. Fucking Ice Cube. I know, I was fucking nervous. I didn't sleep last night. I literally like, I've watched his movies, I've wrapped his songs.

I've grown up with him. Since I was like, like the first, like 94, and it's 93, 92, or 94, or six whatever that's I remember that shit Everything I've heard about cubes that he was cool as fuck. Yeah, like as advertised. Oh gee cool Yeah, so cool. Is he our most famous guest? him Davido Bon Jovi Jovi Probably cute is cute. I mean Cube taps, I mean this.

Cube is. Cube's huge. Cube's huge. Hmm, Frank Edelman? Yeah, probably Frank. That's so cool. I could've talked to him for like, there's like, he has literally 40 hours.

I can't believe he gave us an hour and a half. Yeah. That's why I had to. You said an hour and a half after. I always feel like, I always feel like we're stealing when we do that and you're like, thanks for giving us an hour and 36 minutes of. I always feel like we're stealing when we do that. And you're like, thanks for giving us an hour and 36 minutes of your time.

It was hour 27. I hope you have fun sitting in traffic. Hey, we told him time and place. Yeah. No, he was cool. He told him time. He picked the time. He's going to see the traffic.

You can always tell if a guest was here past how long they wanted to, depending on how they operate post show. And he was chilling a little bit. He walked through the stuff. And you know when they wanted to, depending on how they operate post show. And he was like chilling a little bit. He walked through like the stuff. And you know when they do that, it's like, okay, he's not like, he's not rushing. Well, he's a really, he's actually a curious person.

If you see, like, and hear how he talks, like when he was a kid, he was, you know, he would lock himself in, he was really curious about the game of football. He's curious about the things on the wall after he left. He's like, wait man, I want to see this real quick. That's an artist's trait. Curiosity is awesome.

So I try to teach my damn fucking daughter, go be curious. I mean, that was your note early on in the podcast game. It was like, be curious. I heard that from somewhere. Colin Cowherd. Colin Cowherd just did a show today, too. How was that? Did you talk about Aaron Rodgers?

We did. Jesus Christ, we fucking did. Talked about Aaron Rodgers. God. What? I was just joking. We did that. Hey, if it bleeds, it leads.

Well. One more thing on Ice Cube before we wrap up on Ice Cube. Him quitting football to hang out with Dr. Dre. Come on, clip. Send it. Meeting Mahomet Ali in 1987 randomly by himself crossing sunset And like he's at like there's a great talk I spot where and he's probably at like the culture point of where he is

He's like, you know the young hot studs of The whole music industry but like still not kind of known known. Yeah. Because that's what he kind of explained. Yeah. That Oli didn't really know him yet. Yeah, well, just. Yeah. You know. And we got to go to the big three he invited us to.

Oh, August 6th? Yeah, and we should go to that concert too. Definitely want to hit the concert. Got to hit the concert. Cool. We got the business card? Cube Vision. Sick.

Before we get to the postgame segment the chill zone We have I think we've announced the live show probably at this point if there's tickets still available Make sure we're coming back to Boston. We're gonna be August 28th the MGA MGM music all Fenway in Boston sick fucking venue. It's where you did the dr. Phil thing. That was very fun We'll have to sneak onto the field It's gonna be Gronk's gonna be there Jules is gonna be there some celebrity friends and athletes It's gonna be a whole fucking great night. Just one show If tickets are still available get them now ticketmaster.com

It's time for the chill zone brought to you by Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit CoorsLight.com slash GWN. Celebrate responsibly folks. Every beer begins with Coors. Was that Diamonds? I don't know. Phone number is 424-291-2290. Hey Julian. I was just wondering, take it back to your college days.

If you have any advice for any walk-ons, you know, that's just coming into college, coming into the road for the younger kids. You know, that's just coming into college coming into their own for the other kids any advice For maybe a zero star recruiter or a recruit that's just you know, not looked at by too many colleges Just let me know your thoughts on that Advice for walk-ons zero star recruit My advice would be you have to be first in every conditioning. You have to be the first one there, the last one to leave. You have to make them tell you to leave.

You have to know everything in every meeting. You should become very close with the special teams coach. everything in every meeting, you should become very close with the special teams coach. You should live in his back pocket. You should know every special team responsibility. And then whether you're on offense and defense, you need to know every responsibility for that. Because if you have any opportunity, even if it's with like the threes versus the fours and the, if you have a play, you have

to have a plus play. There can't be a negative play. You need to know where to line up. You need to know where to go. You need to know the responsibility defense. You need to be able to execute what you have to do on offense. And if you do that, you might have a shot. You have to have them tell you to slow down. You have to be balls to the walls all fucking day.

And you got to stay healthy. So you have to you have to make yourself so disposable. You have to, like a crash dummy in like special teams or in offense when you're maybe a receiver or whatever and you have to go in and block. You got to have them tell you to slow down. You can't be a problem though. You can't hurt other guys.

You can't hurt a star or anything. But there's a fine line. That's what I would do. Did Kent State have like tryouts for student body at all? I don't remember that. Or all the walk-ons are all through a recruiting process and you just don't get scholarship? I don't even remember.

Yeah. At all. Jules, Jackie Tyler of the pod, Eric from Detroit. Detroit? I wanted to make a request for not necessarily a game but an era in sports history If you could do something with the bad boys piston hell, yeah

Just you know the hate that they got along with Maybe teams against Jordan games against the Celtics games against the Lakers. You have a podcast. Thanks a lot boys. Keep doing big things We'd love to get a good Isaiah Thomas Thomas Isaiah Thomas fucking get Isaiah Thomas out here Wasn't wrong and on those things Michael Jordan not come on then Rodman Rodman, but you want Rodman for a bulls game We've been trying to get Rodman for we should push we should reach back out on that front on Rodman Bill Lam beer He has media. Yeah, Bill Lam beer. Yeah, is it Thomas? They Brown coach some of those piston teams later on Those were the I like those pistons. Those are the ones I remember. She's trying to get a rip Hamilton Yeah, Chauncey billa Chauncey billups Ben wall and Wallace and then there was another wall. She Wallace. Yes

I love those team. Yeah, and then who's the alien looking dudes? Take Sean Prince. Yeah. Are you hold on? Are you impressed? I just like named that whole roster. But I'm I was kind of impressed that I remembered it too. But like that was a cool team. Yeah. Oh, gee, they won. They won one of them. They won one. Yeah. I like those teams. I like I love I don't know why. I've always had a soft spot for Detroit.

America. It's the auto auto industry in my I've always had a soft spot for Detroit America It's the auto auto industry in my Dad's associated with cars you Ford or Chevy very complex. All right, we'll save that for the next episode We're up a Chevy kid Suburban GM Christ look known GM Cadillac. We were Chevy people. Okay GM Cadillac, we were Chevy people. Okay. Have a Mustang though. I was always a huge fan of the old Mustangs.

You were? But also, I'm a huge fan. I liked the old Vets too. Yeah. I liked the old Chevelles, I liked the old Novas. I was a, I liked the old 55s, like step side, short bed, trucks. Those 55 when they had the, was that teeth then?

They were teethy, they were like the Bel Airs. I used to like the 57 Bel Air with the wings. But I also liked the 55 because they were a little shorter and they had the teeth, they were a little more sporty. I was a Chevy kid that, but then it became just a, you know, I like, for collectibles, I like old American cars. Yeah, yeah. From there they were built really.

But I liked them hot-rotted out. I wouldn't be an original guy. I'd put a little, I'd slam it a little, maybe not slam a little, but I'd make it fucking badass. Those were sick trucks. My first truck was like a 65. It was my brother's and then I had it for a little while. It was a 65 Ford pickup short bed, which was badass.

It had the old Mustang bucket seats. It was like the biggest piece of shit in the world. Three on the tree. So it was like right here. Chh. Ah. Ah. I used to have to put phone books on because I was too short to see over the wheel.

That's how Jack has to drive too. No seat belts and it was okay. It was like legal. It's tight. You know, I always thought it was fun with like, or interesting with like those American cars, like Mercury is owned by Ford, it's like the same company. Yeah. And then have some of the models.

Chrysler is the same. And then have some of the models that should be the same exact car just with a different brand. And that Ford Mustang had a mercury Like absolute like mimic car Mercury Cougar. Yeah, they picked up but it was exactly the same car exactly But they were they were like the sportier. Yeah, there's I remember the Cougars Yeah Just so you know an update on the group chat is blowing up about our conversation earlier about who our top three most famous guests

Are nice Billy seems to think that Rich Ornberger is. Thoughts. Rich Ornberger? Yeah. Very funny. Big Rich from San Diego Radio. I mean he's, I bet you, yeah. Yeah, he's up there.

Top three, okay. So what you're saying is that Ray and Bork brought the Stanley Cup to Boston back in 2001. And all of a sudden, Boston sports start popping off. He just brought the Stanley Cup back to Boston again. Does that mean something here? Does it mean something? I don't know but I'm loving it. Great day gentlemen. I don't want to put that out there but it's out there. I don't think Marshawn can give do the same thing Bork did

because he's already won a cup in Boston that's a little weird and the Florida Panthers are a bit of a rival now in the same conference that I don't think it would be the same you could do this because this guy's levered pitching Brad Marshawn takes his cup in Boston. Did he has the day? No, he hasn't yet But like when it's his day already had his day. No, no, no, they're just by the way if anyone wants I've been following Brad He's electric Amazing five hundred thousand dollar bill at 11 I think 11s or whatever but sick, right? So this guy's pushing to do a Stanley Cup because remember Ray Bork said yeah, he brought it in the dynasty's happen. Oh

Man, all I know is his fucking stories have been hilarious. Yeah, I've just been living and breathing with Stanley Cup content. He's like 37, still looks young. Still partying with the young whippersnapper. Not that one picture the morning after when he clearly hasn't slept yet.

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