Games with Names - Super Bowl XX with Sebastian Maniscalco | Patriots vs. Bears

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Sebastian Maniscalco is in studio! The actor and comedian is with us to relive an all time Chicago Bears win: Super Bowl XX.  (00:00:00) We kick things off. (02:08.59) Sebastian joins us on the couch. (12:00.72) We go back to January 1986. (22:12.28) We get into the teams. (30:55.40) We dive into the game. (45:11.60) We score the game. (56:12.00) We hit The Chill Zone presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They're Jack and Kyler. And we are on the search to find the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode, we are covering Super Bowl 20 with record-breaking comedian, actor, and podcast host, Sebastian Manascalco. And we're talking. Barefoot kickers. That was never brought up, like, in the locker room. What happened to the barefoot kicker? If I saw that, I would make fun of the guy.

Refrigerator Perry. If you have a player like sweetness, do we give him a touchdown? The greatest defense of all time. Every one of these names to me are like Hall of Fame guys. And we hit the Discord in the chill zone presented by Coors Light. You got to stick around to the very end. Games and names a production of IHeartRadio. January 26, 1986, Louisiana, Superdome, New Orleans, Louisiana.

The Monsters of the Midway shuffle into a matchup against the Road Warrior Patriots. But it was all bears in the Big Easy. This is Super Bowl 20. Welcome to games with names. Today we are talking Super Bowl 20 Patriots versus Bears with comedian Sebastian Manascoco. You got it. Did I get my?

Yeah, I'm impressed. Yeah. I went to the Italian Riviera this last summer. spectacular. I went to the Pesto Portofino area. Then we went to where'd I go? I went to Rome for a few days. I've been to Rome a few times now though and then we went to Florence. That was spectacular. I had really good sandwiches. So when you're on vacation in Italy

are you wearing like flip flops? Are you? No. I don't wear any flip flops because I have terrible feet. I'm very self-conscious. The only time I wear a flip-lop is in a shower with other men. Okay. All right. If, you know. But in one sentence, why did you pick this game? So this brings me back to childhood. I was 12 when this happened.

This is before your time. What are you, 39? I was born the next year. Okay. So, yeah, this is, you didn't live this. This was, this was, a lot was going on with the 85 bears. We had the Super Bowl shuffle. You had McMahon with the headband.

You had snowing, I believe, at Soldier Field when Wilbur Marshall. She picked up the fumble to take it back. What else did you have? You had Ditka and Buddy Ryan feuding. So many persons that had refrigerator Perry running, you know, playing running back. Sweetness. Sweetness. Didn't score in the Super Bowl.

Hurts to this day. I want to ask you about that. If that's something that if you have a player like sweetness, do we give him a touchdown? just for touchdown sake that what's what's the take on professional football and getting a guy his due well i know dick has publicly said he feels terrible for it and he got caught up in the moment and didn't even realize he didn't get a touchdown but if you're going to ride a bell cow all year long as they did with walter peyton as a player on the team and he he was our guy i would want to see him get a touchdown. If I was on that team and I was a receiver and sweetness

didn't get a touchdown, I would have felt sick. Okay, let me, let me throw this one at you. Play's designed for you in the Super Bowl. You okay with giving it to sweetness? Yeah. Yeah. If he's the reason we got there. Got you. One thousand percent. All right. Just always want to know what the professional take is on getting a guy like Peyton a touchdown in the Super Bowl. But that was a big controversy. Yeah. So this is a game that I like to relive. 1,000 percent. That's the heat. You're 12 years old.

Is this the greatest game of all time? Greatest game of all time? I don't know about the greatest game. I think it's the biggest game in Chicago history, I'd say. I believe it was 46. Thun blowout, caps off a season with the one loss in Miami, which, you know, being a Bears fan, when that happened, the whole town was like, this is it. We're dying. It's over. So being a Bears fan, it's been very difficult since this game. Yeah. Now, what's your sports fandom in Chicago like? What's your hierarchy? Is it Bears, Bulls, Cubs? So, yeah, I think the Bears has always been a constant in my life.

So football's won. Football's won. It was superseded by the 90s bulls. And then it's hockey and then it's baseball. I'm not a huge baseball guy. Blackhawks. Yeah. You ever meet Chelyos?

Chris Chelios, I have met. Yes. He was at the show at the United Center, actually not too long ago. Hell yeah. Yeah. Good dude. Now, are you on like a... Sorry.

Is this available here? I'm here. is available. Yeah, yeah, this is bad. Usually, feels mentions that if you have any stat questions, I'm tapped into the computer. Listen, I have to say something.

I clocked this as soon as I walked in the home. And I've done a good share of podcast. I have never seen this amount of laptops on a podcast. I mean, like, one's just not going to do it? So I'll explain to you. So this laptop is here,

which we have the whole show, stats and whatnot. This laptop is Jules doesn't know how to ask questions on his own. So it's this TV here that I'm giving him questions. Come on. I don't even see that. You got a cheat. You got a cheat.

What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Just sweeping out of the door, I'm going to do one of your things. Sweeping out the door. I've seen your stand up. For the viewers, I don't even know if you guys know this. There's a screen over here. There's no screen.

And they're basically feeding him the dialogue. All right. If this, if this thing. goes off, the interview's all the host. What's laptop three four? What's laptop three four? I want to have access to the internet in case you ask a question. I can go there. Otherwise, because these ones are these monitors. All right. And then what are you doing? Not much. So we got a lot of laptops here. We got a lot of laptops here. That one's the whole show. That one's like computer, camera. Okay. Wow. This is a whole deal. Yeah. Okay.

Now that we got that situated, I feel like I'm a little bit more comfortable. knowing what's going on over here. So did you grow up, did you have brothers and sisters growing up? Or just a solo? No, that's not on there. He went off, look, he's feeling self-conscious. I have a, I have a sister who's five years younger than me

who actually lives out here in Los Angeles and works for me. She's an editor. She edits movie trailers, but she does all my editing. So where did the sports fandom come? It come from Pops? my father I played soccer growing up

and my father is huge Bears fan so was my grandfather and to this day last night we watched the game and I'm FaceTime every commercial going what do you think what's going on

it doesn't look good you know so we have it's a bond that's made my relationship with my father extremely important we share well it's funny

he used to come to my soccer games and live through me. Like you were saying, you're living through your daughter. I'm living through my son. And once soccer was over, he is now living through my stand-up. So he critiques my stand-up as he was critiquing my soccer.

And I don't know if you've had this in your family. Does your family when you were playing football, and now you're doing this, do they watch the show? Do they call you and go, what are you doing is there all the time okay i have the same similar father relationship and does that bother you makes me so mad i'm like dad you have no clue about this anything but then i think about it and it's it makes me think deep thoughts yeah it actually is a it adds value but you

might not think it does because probably from what i'm guessing and i don't know your father it's it the message is probably aggressive and it doesn't really wrap the gift like you would probably want it rap to you but it's always in the back of your head it's pure honesty but there's a lot of bias too so sometimes I think I can read the bullshit out of it sometimes like my mom will say that was the best episode ever it's like mom it was only because it was like Nikki Glazer and you understood half the things about Taylor Swift it really like numbers wise this had nothing this you know i don't know i can't say if it was the greatest ever you know but i think it's the greatest like you know like that or dad you know why didn't you ask jerry on this

you know i'm like well you know i didn't know the flow the conversation there's sometimes they just it's like your parents though yeah no it's it's i have a feeling your dad's gonna watch this and go what's what the the sheep fur on his jacket he's actually here he's here he's here he's in the back he's he is he on a laptop He actually is. He is. He is. So do you have this?

Are you pretty hopped up with your current with the Chicago Bears now? I'm not, see, it's funny. I remember every starter on this team. And last time I'm watching the game. And I didn't really know a lot of guys other than the quarterback, whose name is escaping me right now. Caleb, yeah. So, yeah, it's funny.

I was so baked into this team where I knew everybody on it. And now I'm watching the game and I'm not so privy to the players. But are you known as like a Chicago guy in your industry? I'm talking about sport fan. Everyone knows that you're from Chicago.

I mean, not so much sports because I've been dormant with sports. Just watching from afar. one? No, they lost yesterday. Now I got my kid who's six, who is into sports. He's playing soccer. He's playing t-ball. We throw the football. He's learning the rules. So now I'm getting more into it because he's into it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's go back into a segment around where this game took place January 26, 1986. I was actually born in the year of this game. We said before. and go over pop culture.

Number one movie was the color purple. I've seen some of that. The cuts up, that's the Oprah Winfrey one, right? Never saw it. You never saw it? No. Song, that's what friends are for. That's what friends are for.

Keep smiling. Yeah, you see that one? What was the 80s like for you? Like, what were you like in 86? You're 12 years old. 12 years old, I was dancing in front of a mere constantly. I was

just breaking into Cologne at this age. You got a good one on. This is Polo, actually. Oh, Polo. I give it to me as a gift from a fan actually gave me this. By the way, I don't know. Are you into Cologne? Yeah, where? Yeah.

I'm doing something a little different with my Cologne that I just like to share with the group. I'm doing And two different colognes at once. Always. A blend. Well, one's here and one's on the back of the neck.

So you get one cent coming and another cent going. And it really, really throws people for a loop because as I leave here tonight or today, you're going to go, gee, was that another cent? I just, you know, I'm going to? so yeah i'm getting into the cologne in 1986 i want to say was jupe j-o-o-op hint the cinnamon and was really really uh instrumental in picking up my first girlfriend 12 years old first girl yeah i was stating a girl in the neighborhood by the name of kathy that's it jupe all right with an There's not too many explanation points on Cologne, but Jupe had one.

Where did you get this as a 12-year-old? Did you save up? My father was heavily into Cologne. My father is in the hair business. He's a hairstylist. So I grew up with a lot of product around the house. That's why you have great hair. Well, I'm trying to save my hair.

I think I need another transplant. I had a transplant by eight years ago. Not shy about it at all. At all. But need another one. I got two kids hair is falling out constantly yeah kids will do that I've gone completely gray you got a nice out of hair man completely gray when you know you you coached by bellichick for 12 years you then go into parenting right after it's it's a long it's a long it's a long

road by the way I see and I don't want to jump ahead here but I'm looking at the um the rocky four um that was that's where i was what i was that's when i started working out when i saw rocky and that body i'm like that's what i need to get and uh that was highly motivational rocky four is i got an unpopular take i love rocky four all the like real like cinematic people are like rocky four is the worst i'm like yeah right rocky four was like my favorite yeah rocky Just the train montage, the rushing. Watch the train montage before games, didn't you do that? Yeah, I used to love that shit.

You used to put that on before you went out on the field? Like young, young kid. Like college. Was there anything on the... 25. Maybe a couple of the years going into my rookie year. Yeah, maybe. So in the locker room, people get ready for a game in different ways.

Is it okay? to make fun of a guy's prep for a game like his pregame ritual? Do you ever tap each other? What the fuck is this guy doing? No. It's it wasn't as crazy as it probably was in the

earlier years. By the time it got to me, everyone had headphones on. We had a rule where you know, no loud music because everyone prepares differently. So if you want music, put it in your ear. No headphones prior to our last checkout.

time so like once the game starts we're out of headphones but i i used to like like the montage music from like the rocky movies and i would listen to that so i could visualize i didn't like lyrics in my in my music before the game and i didn't like music that got too high like i did when i was young by the time i got older it was more of like a focus factor on what made me prepare most didn't want to get my heart rate up wanted to visualize my game plan all that kind of stuff and sometimes I would use the soundtrack of Rocky 4. All right. Loved Rocky 4.

Rocky 4 is a good one. What's it? 80 movies were like my favorite because I grew up with an older brother who was seven years older to me and so I watched all the old 80 movies, the action movies, the sports movies when I was younger. It's just like the movie scenes not like that anymore. No. The one-liners.

Like if you could remake an 80s movie, what 80s movie would you remake? God, 80s. What was going on? I like breakfast clothes. The whole, like, John Hughes era, all those movies I really enjoyed from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I don't know if that's a Hughes movie, but this is in that kind of realm. Planes, Trains, Trains, and Automobiles, John Candy, which I just started. Acroid.

Chicago guys, right? Chicago. Well, Candy is Canadian. Canadian. Right outside Toronto. Check that up. there's a new talk about him I hear it's good fact check that

one of the laptops please check it up uh what else a lot of comedies in the 80s movie-wise well the best not really seeing that in this day and age how about Bo Jackson he was ill that was he took

he took the the culture over for like two five years yeah everything was Bo Jackson all the Nike stuff is there any did you like sports movies growing up um

You know, my favorite sports movie growing up was Brian's song. Great, Gail Seris. Yeah, Gail Seres. Cry. Every time. Oh, God. Who else was in that? Who was the other guy?

Was it? Oh, James Conn. James Conn. Yeah. So that was one of my favorites growing up. Other than that, I don't really remember. And Billy D. Williams. And Billy D. Williams.

He played Gail Sarah, right? What else was there in the 80s? that was a good Rudy was that 90s that's 90s but it took place in the 70s we'll be in the 80s okay it's math I'll just just give it an average yeah

Bo Jackson though it's unfortunate he got hurt because I think we would have saw a lot more out of him and Marcus Allen MVP of the league yeah I don't know I just I never really wasn't really a Marcus Allen fan

you're just a Bears guy Bears guy. Bears. I felt it was like almost like you couldn't root for. Actually, I did like the San Francisco 49ers. That was my second favorite team growing up. That's got to be hard. Because they've been whipping on you guys all the time. Yeah.

Yeah, but I just, I like for whatever the reason, George Seifert, anytime they went to him on the, he just looked like he knew what he was doing with the white hair and the glasses. He just looked like he, in no emotion. similar to Belichick in the sense where, you know, Belichick, you could look at his face and you could be up 30 and you wouldn't know just by looking at him. No, there's a funny meme going around that my boy just sent me.

It's where this kid... Yeah, look at it at. This kid scores a touchdown on the special teams and hands it to coach. Like after the... After any, he just goes, get it out of my face. Was it Brandon Schooler? Yeah. Yeah, he was in the zone.

That's for sure. So to wrap up this year, this was an interesting time For Boston sports, we had a lot of Boston fans because the year prior, or 85 the same season, the Celtics lost to the Lakers. They ended up winning in 86 against the Houston Rockets. And then also 86 was the famous

Bill Buckner losing to the Mets, Red Sox losing to the Mets. Wow. Would you ever want to do a sports movie, like acting one? Did you kind of do the betting with the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know who... What good Italian... sports figure

you think I could muscle out you could be like a racer driver what is that the Marco Mario Andretti Vince Pappali What who Vince Pappali

Was that movie? Oh yeah He's famous It's already been done You can remember You know who that is Invincible What's it called?

Oh yeah Yeah I'm like talking like Yeah Italians I feel I don't really excel in athletics Tommy Devito Who?

Tommy DeVito Tommy DeVito Tommy DeVito That could be a good show. Adam Venetary? Adam Venetary? Great kicker. Yeah, I guess there's some Italians out there that are.

Mario Andretti. Why do you say it that way, though? Well, because I've learned if there's two. Because if I learned if there's two, I was in Italy, and they say if there's two letters that are close to together, if it's two ours, then you're supposed to roll it. Oh, I'm Italian. I say Andretti.

You know, you're American. an Italian though. Maybe I know the Italian-Ravira people. Pure Italian. Pure. We'll be right back after this quick break. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell

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Whether you're rebuilding, reimagining, or just trying to hold it together, this one will speak directly to you. Listen to the next chapter on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast, episodes drop weekly. Let's jump into this cave. The 1985 New England Patriots won 11 and 5. They were led by Raymond Barry in his second season as head coach. They got a mid-season jolt when Tony Easton got benched in week six after a two-and-three start. Then Steve Grogan came in and gave this team a little bit of a spark. They went six and O in that time.

But then Grogan broke his leg in week 12. So Easton took over. They were also finished third in the AFC West, got in the wild card, went a little hot all the way to the Super Bowl. Andre Tippett, John Hanna, Hall of Famers. Dante Scornacia was on the staff. Coach Scar. He was my offensive line coach. That's how long he was there.

Wow. Yeah. What did you remember of this New England Patriots team? team? Did the running back? Was he named James? Craig James. That's who I remember.

And that guy, Tippett, I remember. Other than that, I don't remember a lot about New England. I don't remember tracking them on the other, in the AFC. I just was focused on what the Bears were doing. So when they came to the Super Bowl,

I think I got introduced to them more than I did throughout the season. It's probably different back then, too, you only saw a certain amount of games on your local TV and it was usually your team. So like I remember even as a kid I didn't even see Patriots games because I was a West Coast kid. I grew up in the Bay Area.

I didn't even see the fucking Patriots play. Also the Dolphins was really the team from the NFC. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Well, one fun fact about this team, Tony Franklin, the place kicker was a barefoot kicker. Okay, can we talk about the barefoot kicker and where did they go?

What happened to the barefoot kicker and punter. I think there was a punter in the 80s. I always say his name was Landetta, but I don't think it was Landetta. There was a barefoot. Is this something? I remember the barefoot.

I mean, there was a Disney movie that I used to love where the dad was a barefoot professional kicker. It was like one of those Disney originals. I forgot the name. But yeah, there was a barefoot bad.

But do you as football players... If I saw that, I would make fun of the guy. Yeah, that was never brought up Like in the locker room What happened to the barefoot kicker? No one never talks about this No one you know what We had a really cool kicker with Steve Gaskowski

But the kicker's kind of in his own world Like did you see the game last night The Bears game at all? Yeah The kicker is brand new Moody from San Francisco Yeah so his third round draft pick Yeah and this is like his first game And he kicked four field goals

Yeah Got one blocked where it was a little low but that was still a big I mean he made some big kicks oh yeah no definitely he he did the interview at the end of the game which I've never seen with the helmet on I've never seen that

before I would take it off to get the face out he's a team player it's about the team is it that was unheard of it's also kind of smart in Chicago because he doesn't want people know in his face too well if he does miss one in the future because those people are ruthless

this out there. Yeah, I agree. What's a better town to do comedy in? Chicago or Boston? That's a tough one. Boston's really great comedy town. Really like Boston. It's, it's, I would say they're equal, but different, different. The Chicago crowds are great, but a little bit more polite in their laughter. Boston is a little bit more outgoing, um, very kind of, uh, boisterous. and how they enjoy comedy and they get it. So I love Boston. It's a great city. That's kind of the difference

between East Coast people and Midwest people. I went to school in Midwest and all like my call. I went to Kent State in Ohio. And Midwest people are just really polite and somewhat nicer. Yeah. Than when you go back east to Boston. You ever go to Strega?

Oh yeah. Strega, North End? Nick, Rono. Yeah. Oh, Nicky. Love Nick. Nick's our guy. Shout out.

They only have one straga now, though. They shut one down. He had stripped by strega. He sold out. I think he sold, too. He made, Nikki, Nikki was in that movie, you know, Molly's game?

Yeah, he told me that he got a part in a movie that they just, they threw him in. They threw him in that because he was in the actual games that that girl was throwing, those poker. He loves to gamble. Oh, okay. So he always makes sense. You know.

All right, let's go to these Chicago Bears. The 1985 bears were led. by Mike Dicca. They went 15 and 1. They were a juggernaut from start to finish starting the year 12 and 0. Their only loss came in an epic Monday night game against Miami and Dan Marino, which we covered with Bill Burr. That was a game he picked. Behind

the vaunted, 46 bear defense. They're one of the best defenses of all time allowing just 12.9 points per game. Hall of Famers on this roster, Walter Payton, Mike Singletary, Mike Dica, Dan Hampton, Jim Cover, and Steve McMichael. It's a McMahon quarterback. Refrigerated Perry was a rookie.

What do you remember of these? Bears. Well, I remember Big Dan Hampton fan. Love Dan. Love Gary Fensick, who was the safety. And then, who else did I like? Is Willie Gould? Yeah, Willie Galt is on this team. Richard Dent was a stud. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, they're just looking at this thing. And it's just stacked with talent. And maybe because I was a Chicago Bears fan and ever. Every one of these names to me are like Hall of Fame guys. Just because I just thought from soup to nuts, they were the best, dare I say, best team ever in the league.

I mean, there's arguments. People do argue the 85 bears to being one of the best teams of all time. Monsters of the Midway. And a shock that they didn't win subsequent Super Bowls. I mean, that's the tough part of it. Buddy Ryan, defensive coordinator left. Went to the Eagles. Yeah.

They knew before this game, too. Oh, did they? He announced it to the team that he was going to the Eagles. I think the night or two before this game. I think I remember that. Now, what was the, how did you watch games this generation of you? When you were a kid, like, did you have family over?

Was there like a potluck or was it just you and dad at the TV? How would you eat? Like, how were your, your NFL Sundays? NFL Sundays. um generally speaking the games were at noon uh i remember sundays i had to do yard work so i would be cutting the grass around 10 o'clock and my dad would be out there doing yard work too my dad used to do yard work with no shirt on and then come in sweating with like hair clippings in his chest hair it was just the dirt it was a lot it's and then he used to eat with no shirt

heard on. So, and I don't know how common this is nowadays, have you ever sat down at the dinner table with your family shirtless after cutting the lawn to eat a bowl of pasta? I don't think this is even happening nowadays. It's extinct. No, maybe some hamburger helper. But the thing is, my dad, there has been times where my dad has come in with, like, I think that's an old-timer thing. Come on with the shirt off. Because we used to do the same thing. Saturdays was Landscape Day.

Yeah. But it'd be like a chicken salad sandwich, not pasta. Yeah, well. That's an Italian thing. Yeah. Saturdays was car washing day. I remember. Weekends was just chores.

Yeah. It was a lot of work. And that was, my mother had a 1982. Seville with white wall wheels that I would wash shirtless because I remember the girl two streets down every Saturday morning used to drive by with her bicycle and I used to take the shammie and ring out the shammie as she passed so she could get a look at the triceps. So yeah, God.

that work never nothing i ever did worked just not that guy anyway so little chelsea drives by your shamine your your your rag or whatever it's 1130 how do you wouldn't then we go into the house and pops is eating pasta with no shirt on watching the bears

yeah so there's no shirt on and then we transferred over to the living room i think still shirtless and we watched the the bears game And I remember him having socks. Did he have socks? My grandfather had socks. It's socks like socks rolled up into a ball. So you take the socks. You know how you put the socks away in your drawer.

And he would throw the socks at the TV when he got angry. So, you know, so he would just have like socks that he would throw at the TV. Yeah, this is Chicago Sports. I mean, you must laugh at fans, right? I mean like what they do and like when you look up into the stands and you see like some of these like overzealous fans like cheering you got to look up there and go what the hell's going on not not I mean sometimes yeah but I mean I remember being a kid being a fan I remember being at candlestick watching the san francisco 49ers in seats you couldn't even watch the game

doing stupid shit yeah you know what I mean I was one of those people I wasn't like an extreme fan because I was always but you know I've seen some you go to Buffalo once a year and you see what those people do well you've seen some stuff yeah that's that's a whole level of fandom I never really Philly they're they're crazy this guy made fun of my haircut for like four straight quarters I had these two parts in the back of my neck because I was doing some I don't know those young this guy made fun of my haircut for fucking three straight hours so you hear that I heard well he was in the first row right behind our bench.

I was like, this fucking guy, is he going to shut up? Like the whole time, didn't stop. Finally, we want to look to him. I said, you like the haircut? No, but it's fun. It's part of it. Let's get into this game. So the Patriots became just the third wildcard team

to make a Super Bowl at this time, winning all three playoff games on the road, most notably beating Dan Marino and the Dolphins in the AFC championship game. The Squish the fish game we did with Gary Goldman. The Bears just strolled into the Super Bowl, didn't allow a single point on their way, winning both games by 20 plus points

leading into the Super Bowl that took place in New Orleans. Also, we have to mention the Super Bowl shuffle. The Super Bowl shuffle. Now, has there ever been anything close to the Super Bowl shuffle since this is, what, 40 years ago? I think at this time, every Super Bowl team did something like that after the Bears did the Super Bowl shuffle.

Because I remember, isn't there a couple of them, like the Rams did it? I remember seeing, they were never the Super Bowl shuffled. So it was released on week 13 of the NFL season. So it wasn't like they weren't in the Super Bowl at that point. And it peaked at 41 on the Billboard Top 100. No, there hasn't. I mean, they're doing the Super Bowl shuffle through, what, five, six weeks before the Super Bowl? I mean, that's unheard of.

It's confident. That's confident. Did you, what was the halftime show here? Up with People. It's a non-profit. So it was Up with People presents beat of the future. Wow. This is before they did real halftime shows.

No half-time show? That was it. Up with people. Do you hear the halftime show in the locker room? No. I mean, you can hear like the Bay, you know what I mean? But it's, no. You're in the zone.

How many Super Bowls did you go to? I went to five. Five. Super Bowls. only played in four though I tore my ACL in one of them or in the season but our team went so when you go to five Super Bowls is it just like by the fifth one is this do you feel like is there is there there is every time you win a Super Bowl your life changes in a whole other fashion well we'll get in it's a different club if you have one Super Bowl that's a club

it changes then you get to two there's crazy doors that open for that if you get to that third one you know it it it is there it's like children the first time's always like what the what the fuck experience with the first one but after that you know how hard it is to get back there because after you win one it's so much harder to get to another one because you're america's most wanted so could you give me an example of the difference between super bowl two and three and what door is open at the third Super Bowl that might have not been there at the second Super Bowl? Or are you saying that?

Yeah, I mean, I pretty much was getting like revenue sharing plans with freaking clothing companies and designing my own clothes after the third one. The first one, you're like going to the Grammys. The third, second one, you're going to the Met Gala. You know, like just other stuff like that, other opportunities. Do speaking opportunities open up with corporations after Super Bowl one, two?

I would say after one, you're getting speaking opportunities. After two and three, you're getting more zeros. Gotcha. And then what? At six and seven, when you get to Brady's level, you just get flag football offers in Saudi Arabia? You just get blank checks I think there's just a, yeah there's blank checks with Arabic on it

There's just like a lot of doors A lot of doors that are being open So this was a good old fashioned beat down This was Yeah, but notably The Patriots did lead 3-0 at one point though Walter Payton fumbled And the Patriots recovered and kicked a field going

That's right That's right. That's where I thought we were in trouble That was the first drive Yeah And then the rest of the game just went exactly how people anticipated. Just an absolute beatdown. Things to remember from this is the refrigerator Perry touchdown.

The sweet lack of touchdown for sweetness. Now, when did you... So you said you thought you guys were out of it after the first drive. Is that just the natural... That's the natural way a Chicago Bears fan thinks. This guy's falling. This guy's falling.

It's over. We're done. There's been so many times in a Bears game where you go, that's just Bears football, you know. I was watching it last night. Just telling my father, I go, you know, penalty, you know, bring back the, you know, touchdown, bring it back.

That's Chicago Bears football. Commanders, though, outbearsed you guys. They had a couple fumbles. They did. They did. And you guys looked like a competent team, which Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, maybe they're getting a little chemistry.

Yeah, maybe, maybe. Did you just go into a Chicago accent? Bulls and bears He's versatile He goes from Roland de Andretti And then right into Northwest suburbs of Chicago

You're inspiring me, bro So something fun from this game too That kind of gets lost in the history Is that there was a play Where Refrigerated Perry was supposed to throw it I saw that There was a trick play where he was going to throw It didn't end up doing it

And they gave it to him on a sweep And he was looking to throw And then he just put it down I don't I don't remember that Proof for a touchdown and got a touchdown. It would have been so sad. And no touchdown for Walter, that would have been bad. It would have been bad.

Well, diving into this game, we found out that the origin of Refrigerated Perry getting the ball was very much a Mike Dicka spite against Bill Wals the year. The year prior in the NFC championship game where they ran an alignment, like had a pass play or something. And Dicka took that personally. So then when they played the 49ers played the Bears earlier this year, the Bears kicked the shed of the 49ers. They gave it to Refrigerator Perry. And he kind of liked it. And then they just kept using them and then it shows up here, the touchdown. Now, when did you know this game was over?

I think when it was, you know, halftime 23-3, we looked like we kind of had it wrapped up. Although, again, as a Bears fan, nothing has ever wrapped up. But I think after the third quarter, we solidified the game. And that's where I think we started celebrating. I think my dad put his shirt back on. And we had a canoli. And, yeah. But I don't know.

I think this team, we were very confident in that they were going to meet their destiny and then win the Super Bowl. I just think the whole town, there was an energy in the town that hasn't, we haven't seen since that this, this is one of the best teams ever. Like going to school and like, was it just like pandemonium? in Chicago like we're how are the street I mean I can only imagine well we didn't do we weren't we're not a parade family we didn't do uh no parades yeah let's go down and hang out with a million people that's not really our our vibe but yeah we were all talking about it at school of course as a kid when you're 12 years old I never played organized football but we played football in the neighborhood tackle right across the street from our house it was like an open field so

of course when you see a game like that the next day you want to like reincarnate oh my god you know I used to do commentary when I used to play football too I used to play football alone um just throwing the you know like did the whole thing down down the field and oh my god

you know it's your dent or whatever with the tackle there's always just like playing the crowd too you know I don't know back then it was very special for the guys in the neighborhood to uh to have a Super Bowl champion team. Yeah. Now what's the aftermath of this? So final score 4610, the Bears would win their first and only

Super Bowl and defensive end Richard Dent was named MVP with a one and a half sacks. Richard Dent put a dent in history. Oh yeah. Man. And this bear 85 Bears defense is widely regarded as one of the greatest of all time. Bears D led the league in points allowed with 198 yards allowed with 4,135 and takeaways with 54. The 46 also led the league in interstate. receptions 34 and rank third in sacks 64. What did the 46 go? Does that not a defense played anymore in the... It is just now the game has changed

because there's more speed on the field and teams spread out the 46. So once you spread out the 46, what the 46 is is there's a lot of guys in the box and a lot of big guys in the bucks. So what teams did to combat it was they got smaller guys on the perimeter and so they'd spread those guys out

and they'd have to try to cover a smaller guy. The game just changed. So is there a... There's still a bear defense, but that's usually on goal line. So you'll see the 46 come up on the goal line. Or you'll see it in like a blitch situation. A lot of times teams will jump into the old bear. But it's pretty noticeable.

And you can expose it just because the game has changed. Just kind of like in basketball, you know. You can't go in the paint anymore. Back then you could go in the paint and there was a lot more hitting. The game is spread out now wherever. one's hitting three. So it changes the style of guy you bring in. So is there a defense in the NFL that combats this like stretched out? Like has anybody figured out? They say the 2000 Ravens with

Ray Lewis was a generational defense. They talk about the Legion of Boom. The 2014, 2013, Seattle Seahawks had a special secondary and a really good defensive insane defensive line mid-set records. There's been like three or four defenses that combat the dominance, but nothing quite to what they did. It was like ahead of the time,

you know what I mean, when they did this. And then the Niners started using all, you know, throw into the running back, throwing to the other guys, which changed how, people played that defense.

So I remember in this game, there's a fullback by the name of Matt Suey, right? Yeah. And I often wonder what in the hell happened to the fullback? Does he get to run anymore in today's game? Normally it was a fullback right up the middle, some stocky guy. Yeah.

There's only probably, I would say 30% of the teams use a fullback. Oh, is that it? Yeah, and it's because of that. But football is a very pendulum sport. So because everyone's spreading guys out and there's smaller, faster guys on the field, you'll see the teams that won the Super Bowl that do very well last few years.

They've had a fullback because they combat it by getting big. So they'll get a bigger guy on the field, bigger guys on the field, and they'll run after those smaller guys. And the fullback is in a lot of those systems because they're playing the numbers game. It's the most like, it's a real strategic game.

It's like really chess. Yeah. It's a big chess match the whole time. This didn't seem like, I don't know, it just seemed like this was a pure dominance. Yeah. You don't see this. Now all the games are 25, 24, you know, there's no blowouts. Like we're like this.

Well, a lot of times because of back in these days, in the 80s, they didn't have salary cap or a free agency was pretty new. I think. I don't know. Not yet. I think it was early 90s. Early 90. Yeah. So you couldn't even be a free agent.

So the teams could buy their teams and always pay their guy or and didn't have a limit on how much they could spend. So you saw a lot of these great historic teams of the Niners and the Cowboys. The salary cap wasn't put in until like the late 90s, which creates a lot more parity for the game. Gotcha. Let's name the game and score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time?

let's score it. Decimals are always encouraged. We have a group of names that we came up with. If you have a name that you call it, we could do that. We have shuffling to the Super Bowl, the fridge game beat down in the Big Easy, the Bourbon Street blowout or something. What do you got it as anything else? Or do you like one of those? You know, I like shuffling to the Super Bowl. Shuffling into the Super Bowl. You can't forget the Super Bowl shuffled by the 85 Bears. Let's score this game. Stakes. 0 to 10 decimals and courage,

what are the stakes of this Super Bowl 20 matchup? Oh, this is 10. This is 10? This is 10 because for him being a Chicago sports fan, they hadn't sniffed a Super Bowl since the Super Bowl era. I mean, they had a bunch of championships in the 40s. 60s, it was the last championship. Yeah. For me, I would say a 9,

you got to understand. We've done Super Bowls where teams are going on their back-to-back Super Bowl you know the grading scheme for me this is a nine Series game seven world you know this is nine is high

Jack out of 9.1 I had a 9.2 I feel like I went too high on this you did no yeah no you did no it's okay most I would say 95% of people put a 10 on stakes guests yeah

yeah okay so star power of this game who was on the sideline who were on the teams coaches players the star power, zero being like not, no one that you know. 10 being Brady Manning. Brady Manning. Okay.

If we were just going with the Bears, star power, I would have to say 10. But since the New England's involved, we got to bring it down to a 7.5. Couldn't agree more. There's a, there's really nobody. Tony Easton starting? Yeah, it's not a lot of.

I mean, that's a very integrity type score from a guest. for me I'll go 7.6 okay because Jack out of 7-9 out of 7-5 we're on the same page

I feel I feel okay all right the gameplay of the game the gameplay is like how the viewer thought of the game was it back and forth was there interceptions

was this like the gameplay this was a blowout but the gameplay zero to 10 10 being unbelievably to watch yeah I mean

I don't think this was a nail biter by any means. So I'm going to go gameplay 5.4. 5.4. I'm going to go blowout.

It's still a 7. It's still a 7. Jack had a 2.0 out of 5.0 because the bear has had a great game. So half of them was really good. All right. Let's grade and now we do the name of the game. We grade the name of the game.

This is shuffling into the Super Bowl. Zero to 10. 10 being cultural impact. I mean, we all, we're talking about this game 40 years down the road. 85 bears. 85 bears. I feel like you are influencing my vote. Good.

That's how I try to. I do that every time. And since you did that, I'm going to change my score to a 8.5. I like that. I like that. For the 85 bears. I'm going to go with an 8.6 because I was born in 1986. Jack got a 6.1

I had a 7.1 That puts us at 735 Where is that in the games of all time? That's going to be here That puts us

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It was the whole week We did with Scott Hansen in the Red Zone Can I see the number one? Absolutely. Oh yeah. You're gonna catch some you're gonna love this, sir.

Falcons and Patriots. Wow. There are more. Yeah, a lot of Patriots. What are you talking about? Played a lot of league games. I actually give the worst scores on those. Yeah. That's the guest.

Jack, the producer, really pumps the tires on Patriots games. Okay. I know. I've said, yeah. They're, what, Patriots? Is it three out of 25? No, four, four out of 25. Yeah, well. You know, I don't.

It's fine. Hey, listen, that's fine. You know, it's, you got to get the people what they want. It's your show. The people what they want. Any, uh, we miss anything on this game, Sebastian? I don't think we, I think we covered it all. I think, uh, yeah, I think we got it all.

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Discord. Is that a new one? It's a messaging system. No. A lot of the... Man, I wasn't aware of that. Write that down. Discord.

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Amen. Man, a lot of work over here. A lot of work's happening. He's funny to me. And we've been circling this game for a while. It was nice to finally do it. How do you think he thought we were? Because this is probably like his fourth promotion of the day.

He's like running around. That's why it was such a tight interview. I don't know. I think he appreciated he got him and got him out. You did a great job with timing. We got everything we needed to hit. That was good. Although there's one thing.

There's two things. We didn't get Mount Rushmore, but it's okay. I didn't know if he. Yeah. He seemed like he only knew football, really. And he, he would have threw on a couple of Blackhawks, actually, I bet. Dude, I want to get into, like, Coachelios and Jeremy Road. We didn't have time for it.

We didn't have time for it. And I think there's two things I want to mention about this. He's a funny motherfucker, though, like, his type of. He's so funny. Like, his story, that's why I've always liked him, because a lot of his thing, like, his shit, I think like that. Like, when he always, oh, it's fucking old, bro. Or, like, the dad stuff. He always has good stories about his family and, like, little.

things of isms of the family and he uses his hands you see him start using the hands yeah yeah did I go too Italian on them no I think it's okay that you can do that

the Mario Andretti I mean who doesn't say a Mario Andretti uh two things about this game I've actually been in a race car with uh sir Mario Andretti isn't is that what that one is

I've been in a rate me me and Andretti he's a fucking cool dude man Mario dude he was so cool we went in the indie car together the two-man car in long beach oh that's the and we were driving he was hitting them turns like yeah buddy he's and he's just a italians are smooth he's funny they're smooth two things from this game i wanted to bring up that i don't think i mentioned is that both buddy ryan and mike dicka got carried off the field

i know i remember that yeah and then so this game um was huge in the proliferation of the prop bet particular to the Super Bowl prop bet because Refrigerated Perry had scored two touchdowns this season. Now, were you getting the prop bet back in 1985? You're not going to fucking Fandul.com or draft kings. In Vegas.

So they had it in Vegas. Yeah, so you could bet on if he would score a touchdown or not and had pretty crazy odds. So all the bookies illegally were taking this prop too? I probably knows. I mean, that's not for me to say. The guy in Chicago, the guy in New Jersey, the guy in New, the Manhattan.

So the touchdown from Refrigerated Perry caused Vegas hundreds of thousands of dollars. cost them, because no one believed they would actually run that play in the Super Bowl. So it was kind of like the born of the start. Which is like millions of bucks now. Yeah. Yeah. Should we get into this chill zone?

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for number 424-291-2-2-9-0. We also pulled some questions from Discord too. You want to get into it? Let's get into it. Let's take some questions, baby. Hello? Okay, so obviously we all know that you went to college in Kent, Ohio.

So I want to know what is your favorite thing about the Midwest? Or do you have a list of your top five favorite midwestern things you know what just do a mount rushmore because y'all do that all the time so what's your mount rushmore of midwestern things that you really really like i mean if you have some and you probably do i mean i would hope you do um and that's all okay bye this is clearly from the midwest i guess mount rushmore of midwestern things mount rushmore this niceness count people

are on it people okay people you're just you're gonna have to people are a mount rush more of Ohio because people of Ohio are really like genuinely cool people yeah like nice people you know they're they're sweet people I've met so many unbelievable people in in that region that don't want to you know like they're just kind genuine so people I would put a Swenson Burger, the Gally Boy Burger up there. Okay. So we got people, Swenson Burger.

And you got football. Football. Football. Dick Stadium, football. Dick Stadium was our name, D-I-X. Dix. I'm sure no one never made any jokes about that. Oh, my God.

We used, yeah. And then also, like, the weather was crazy, but I, it's like the part of it the weather seasons when it's good it's good and when it's bad it's bad it was always like when there were sunny days like in the human like it just was my first time being in humidity it's my first time it's like seeing snow and living in snow and like a lot of snow we had a huge we had a like a three foot day once that's fun they canceled all of classes and stuff like the cold you could I mean, you could say Great Lakes, the Great Lakes.

Well, we get the lake effects, no. We were, we were near Lake Uri. Cedar Point. Cedar Point's up there. Cedar points up there. We used to go that in the summer. And it's blistering hot. Hot up there.

It gets hot. It ain't South-Eak because we went and played Louisiana Lafayette one year, and it was fucking raging hot down there. They were the raging Cangians. Yeah. But that was, but I would say the people, Swenson's.

Swenson's. Football. And weather. And weather. All right. Hell yeah. That's a hell of a list. Rockneys.

It's like their chain out there. We used to go rockneys. And they put, it was the first time I was ever exposed to people putting vinegar on their, on their, the red vinegar on their fries. Sometimes I like malt. Or malt vinegar.

That's what it is. I'm wondering what your favorite team was to play. My favorite team to play. I think it changed periodically. for a while you loved playing the Ravens because it was like they meant there was there was meaning behind those games either if it was regular season

or if it was postseason you know what I mean it always had some kind of yeah you're playing for something something yeah I always love playing indie indie yeah just because just like them yeah I remember losing to them in that 09 and when it was Peyton versus Brady

and there was like a huge rivalry between indie pats before i got there they used to be in the same division in the same division and so then you know once peyton left we still you know there was still something there Andrew luck no slap Andrew luck he was he's always good I loved playing uh I loved playing the Jets just because there was anytime Boston New York there's heat there's heat you know what I mean people people around town are buzzing more because it's You know what I mean? The rivalry.

It's just, and we had so much whatever we had with, you know, the Belichick stuff. It was always clear that he never liked playing them. You never liked. You feed off of that. You feed off of that. Yeah. And then what I thought this question was is, so let's just answer it because it's a good one. Who's your favorite team to watch right now?

That's not the Patriots. That's not the Patriots? Yeah. And why is it the Chargers? I like watching the Chiefs, man. Yeah, they just do it right. I like what, I just,

their defense is tight. They play solid defense. I love how Spags calls defense. And there's just, you know, I'm just always intrigued to see how they're trying to win the game that game. You know what I mean? How they're adapting.

What are they, what do they see in the defense or the offense that makes them play differently? Like how is Patrick, what's he going to do to win the game as far. are they going to run it like this last week whenever we're you know it was the Monday night who are the Sunday night game against oh you're talking about the Lions game the Lions yeah you know like they they ran they were start you started to see Pacheco run the ball the way he

used to and there and there was a there was like a running play where Hunt lit up one of their safeties and they were getting good run game it wasn't like they blew up the box score with the run game, but they were starting it. And then, you know, Patrick and there was a couple plays that he made that were awesome. And I just love watching him play. So you're not tired of the chiefs. You're not tired of the chiefs. You just like to see how they're adapting. I like watching. I like watching good football teams. Yeah. Like I try like when you said the Chargers, I try to like to watch them, but they're so banged up. It makes me mad with their with their line. Yeah. Makes me mad that why are they hurt the Chargers? I love watching Justin Herbert. He had

probably the top two throw him and Mahomes on the one where the guy swang around him and he found McConkey and then they got you know they got the 23 yards and they kicked the field goal like I just every time I'm always intrigued to see if they're getting the pieces around Justin Herbert which they don't have right now on the offensive line

they got you know but they're battling they're four and two so I like watching them too I like watching the bills too though drops too you know yeah but I get I get really mad watch it's just their defense is a little light I've been saying it

yeah yeah I've been saying it defense is light that's gonna that's problems like I don't know I'm getting into it hey so I've got a question when Matt White was at the Duncan house did you guys figure out what he took

when he left thanks bye um not yet but the owners will give us a payroll to duck from the down payment or whatever we had to do the I think you just took a bunch of dunks but that's okay because we had plenty no but there's something we'll figure it out I'm just happy didn't take the wheel my TV was malfunctioning like a week after after some malware after he came

to the house and I had my tech people like look at like all the USBs and like yo check everything I know Matt Light may have fucked something up. My shit was turning on randomly and stuff. Huh. All right. Here's a Discord question from Gim Cognito. Kim Cognito. It's been years since your Kent State days returning to the school after a few years ago

to graduate with your bachelor's. What is your relationship with the school like now? And do you ever see yourself returning there for events or talks or anything in the future? I think my relationship's great with Kent. um they're struggling right now in football and and right now with like the nil it's hard for you know mid major schools mid major d ones to compete and so like it's almost like what do you know but i i i would love to go and do some talks out there or do something for for ken if you just sell it out we should do some shows there we should yeah we should bring a games and names to

to Ohio. We'll do it at the Mac Center. The Mac Center is their... Not Dix Arena? No, Mac Center is the basketball gym. Holes like 3200. Okay. All right.

I mean, Kent State did just... I saw... I saw OAR there at the Mac Center when I was in college. I saw them at the SPAC, Saratoga Performing Arts Center. Fun fact. I forgot their songs, but people in Ohio loved them. Yeah. A couple more.

here. This one is from Rilu 2-1, another one from Discord. What's a game from any sport or era that you just randomly think about a lot? I guess you could call it your Roman Empire game. I don't know why. I think about this game from Pop Warner. It was like when I was on junior midgets or something, which was like 13. Or no, was it, it was. It was, it was 1997 maybe it was there's like a ring around the field for the track it was cement ring and i hit my forearm on it and i burnt i got an infection and blew up my bursts sac when i was like 13 or 11 i always think about that it was in santa clara i don't know why i like that we should start asking people this like what's their roman empire game but i think about it was in

the Roman Empire a lot. Cool. You were just at Rome. I was just in Rome. Okay, another one. I think this has been covered before, but mine's the Boise State, Oklahoma game for Yes, the Bowl, 2005 or seven. I fought seven.

Current athlete, or this is from Sweet T-O-3, current athlete you would like to share a cold Coors Light with? Jackson Smith and Jigba. Okay. I want to see what he's about. Okay. I love his game. He just bawled out.

He's balding ourselves crazy. seen it from day one yeah he leaves a league in receiving guys right now i just he's smooth he went to sc right or ohio state ohio state yeah went to ohio state that's seahawks team and he's got like i i heard there's some there's some something about his name i just heard but i will i'd like to see what he was about okay i like that uh and you know let's do one more um from rachel c uh i know you love plants, so what are your favorite plants and our flowers? Oh. Plants.

I love Japanese maples. You got a nice one. I have a couple. I have a dwarfed umbrella Japanese maple. I have a traditional Japanese maple. It's little tree, please. Huh? It's a little tree. They're called

little trees. Oh. I love my what are they? my star jasmines i love those for like two weeks jasmine's fucking rule but they die after two weeks and then they're not but they have great smell for like spring i like uh i love redwood trees it's because it's just it's do you like the coastal redwood or the sequoia i like the sequoia

okay the big ones the fat the voluminous ones not the i like all of them really but but it's more of like symbolism for me. And, you know, I'm from there. I grew up being around them. And I always appreciated them when I was a kid. Like, I was always fascinated with the bark. How spongy it is. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, and I always remember, we always had like the outdoor eds and shit where you go for a week and like, we had a couple, like, there was Redwood trees everywhere where I grew up. Not like the big, big ones, but, you know, I grew up in Redwood City. So those are the taller ones. They're taller ones. Yeah.

The sequoias are the big, big ones. They're the biggest trees on earth by volume. You see that one picture of the redwoods are the tallest. Yeah, when they keep it secret? Huh? There's one that they keep secret. It's the tallest tree on earth. Yeah.

They don't know where it is. People know where it is, but they won't tell the rest of the world. There's like somewhere in the Bay Area. It's north. I think it's around like Redwood National Park north of the Bay. It's called something. That starts in like central California. Tallest tree on earth.

I like that. ship it's got a name oh it's called Hyperion uh it's in the coast it's coastal redwood um in california which is the world's tallest known tree measured at 380 feet uh in 2019 location undisclosed they don't want people going to it they don't want people going to it but it's in um the redwood national you could just go on like google maps and probably find it or just like get like a helicopter you can literally go on like it's the one way tall You could go look at our, like, on Google's map, you could see, like, our air defense systems in, like, Area 54. Is that the new one?

51 or whatever. That's the even more secret one. But we can't find this damn tree. Get out of here, dude. I'll fucking find this tree in two seconds. Two seconds. Chad GBT, what a tree. Where's that tall fucking tree?

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