Games with Names - Super Bowl XXIV with Dan Soder | Broncos vs. 49ers

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

Dan Soder is in studio! The comedian, actor, and diehard Niners fan is with us to go deep on Joe Montanta's last Super Bowl victory: Super Bowl XXIV between the Denver Broncos and the San Francisco 49...ers.  (0:00) We kick off the show. (2:26) Dan joins us on the couch. (36:02) We go back to January of 1990. (1:03:43) We get into these rosters. (1:29:37) We dive into the game. (1:53:01) We score it. (2:08:28) We recap Julian's Patriots Hall of Fame induction weekend in The Chill Zone presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:18 Games with Names of Names of I-Heart Radio. January 28th, 1990. Louisiana, Super Dome, New Orleans, Louisiana. Airways Broncos look to dethrone, the reigning champs, and the Big Easy. But Jerry and Joe couldn't be stopped. This is Super Bowl 24. Oh, dude. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:50 That was so fun, dude. That was a blast. Today we are looking at Super Bowl 24 Broncos versus the Niners. Welcome to the Nuthouse, Dan. Dude, thanks for having me. I got it. I'm so excited to talk specifically about this with you. You're a Bay Area kid.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I am a Bay Area kid. You grew up a 49ers. Huge one. This is, I would say, we're a couple years different in age, but I would say this is the zenith of the, this is the peak of the 49ers dynasty. I like, you know what he did right there? He, he saw that I didn't know what the fuck Zenith was. And then he had to bring, he had to change it.
Starting point is 00:05:34 That's a TV bringing the room. You know what it is? That's a checkdown. That's a checkdown. That's an audible. Hot round. We had a wheel week safety blitzie through hot. I looked at it.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I went check down. I'm a check down. I like the check down. I like the check down. I like it's, this is like, this is my favorite Super Bowl. This, I would say this Super Bowl is definitive of who I am as a person. is this the greatest game of all time i don't know because i have too much personal involvement in this super bowl this is 1990 i'm six years old six you remember this game this is the first
Starting point is 00:06:09 there was so much in this super bowl for me yeah you have to understand grew up diehard 49ers fan yeah my mom she's from fresno but her whole family's from colorado okay my dad bay area Bay Area guy. I mean, Ray's, I never lived there. I would visit him for long periods of time.
Starting point is 00:06:28 What part of the bay? He was from East Bay, born in Oakland, grew up in Walnut Creek, went to college park high school. Highers fan, die hard. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:06:38 That right there, if you're an East Bay kid, usually you're a Raiders fan. I think he wanted to be a little bit of a contrarian. Also, my grandma was a Niners fan. That could be it. And my grandma would go to Keysar.
Starting point is 00:06:51 She would tell me stadium, like going to, watch bring knives in to make sandwiches yeah well the so the niners are significantly older than the raiders the raiders which came in with the afl in 1960 the niners are like i think one of the original not i don't don't fact check me but they're like a super old team yeah they're they are and i know and i know like the old yeah so my grandma who grew up in the or moved to the bay area when she was like 16 she's a huge niners fan dad's a huge niners fan so it was inevitable I'm a 49ers fan
Starting point is 00:07:22 Even though I'm born in Hartford While my mom's working for Aetna Because my parents Yeah my parents met Whalers Yeah the Whalers dude You got sick hats too Great merch
Starting point is 00:07:32 Great merch I'm marrying into a Bruins family So I cannot wear the Whalers merch I almost wear my whalers hat today Dude the whalers My closet was like no I'm not today It was but here's the thing is My mom was working for Aetna That's why we were living out there
Starting point is 00:07:47 That's why I was born out there Insurance Oh insurance I got it. I thought it and he's like the shoe company. I was like, damn. That would be way cooler. I'm going to worry about life and casualty. I want sneaks. I was doing the math. Like, I don't think that's probably started in Connecticut. Yeah, dude. Connecticut was like insurance hub in the 80s. And my mom worked for Etna.
Starting point is 00:08:07 So I'm born in Hartford, but the first piece of clothing I'm in is a 49ers onesie. And it's like, I'm born in 83. So we're on our way up. Way up. We're on our way right after, you know, the 81 Super Bowl. I don't remember 84, Marines. Reno, Montana. I'm one. 88. I kind of remember it. I'm like watching football my dad. I'm super into the 49ers. So I kind of remember that. But then we moved to Denver. 88. End of 88. So the beginning of the 88 season, which is or or 89, excuse me, we moved to Denver. I'm a 49ers fan. I'm a five or six year old diehard 49. And they love their football in Denver. It's John Elway town. Oh yeah. It's John.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Elway town. John L. My parents divorce this year, 1989, parents split up. Dad moves back to the bay. Mom and I stay in Aurora, Colorado.
Starting point is 00:09:03 My mom's like, fuck that. I'm not going to support the 49ers. I'm a Broncos fan. Whole family's a Broncos fan. So my mom's like, go Broncos. Go John Elway.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Uh-uh. I'm staying a Niners fan. You got it. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Late 80s, you think I'm getting off the boat can't we're eating good now I got one question about the divorce yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:09:27 dad's fault is this why you is this why you became a comic because usually I'm very close with San Morel he says every comic has a traumatic something yeah Batman doesn't become Batman if his parents aren't murdered outside the hour 1,000% this was just the beginning this was I didn't know this was I wish this was the reason I was a comic this was the Amu's Bush bleeding into why I'm a comic I wish I wish this was the darkest it got. I would pray for sunny days like this later in life. But this would, I'd say, is the initial crack in the fountain.
Starting point is 00:10:01 This is what's leading to this kid's going to have a life in comedy. And then also probably being a fan of the 49ers and a full Broncos. Postal territory. What's up, Mr. Viejo Elementary? I'll see you on the schoolyard. Joe Montana is better than John Elway. Not even close. It's not even a conversation.
Starting point is 00:10:18 You want to talk about baseball? Maybe. But you were talking about football, Joe Montana. Hey, what about basketball? Joe got drafted as a basketball player. Oh, yeah, because he was a running quarterback at Notre Dame. He was a, people forget that he was a fucking hell of good basketball player. I wish I would have known that.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I wish I would have had that basketball thing about like, well, because everyone would be like, well, Elway's a better athlete. He was drafted in baseball. I forgot. And I, and I didn't have a canon, though. Dude, Elway was, by the way. Yeah. Listen, growing up a Niners fan, one thing I will say, I respect the fuck out of John Elway. And I ended up having, listen, this is why this game is so important.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I end up having a soft spot for the Denver Broncos. You grow up, my mom loves them. My family, my mom's family, diehard Broncos fans. I'm just, I'm with the Niners. Yeah. I'm already, I've already picked my lot in life. So we get to the Super Bowl, this Super Bowl. My parents are going through a pretty, a pretty, it wasn't a good divorce.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It's pretty tough. No more. My mom decides to have a Super Bowl party, you know? She's got single mom energy. Dude, if you would have seen this picture back then, the hair was big. She had a six-year-old. Trish is, she's feeling it. Trish is, and she's in her 40s, and she's like, I don't need a man.
Starting point is 00:11:35 This is swinging town in Denver, too. Denver's on that pineapple upside down at the grocery market. Denver is a party town, you know? She ended up in the mountains. She's on the planes partying. So she has this Super Bowl party. It's all orange and blue except her six-year-old son, who's in a Joe Montana jersey. And then we watch a 55 to 10 decimation of the Denver Broncos.
Starting point is 00:12:03 There's only one person going nuts in that house. Oh, my God. That's six-year-old Dan Soder going absolutely bonkers at this party. And it's like, what a fun Super Bowl. The divorce bowl My parents It's the divorce Naming it right now
Starting point is 00:12:19 Now did you ever get in any fights With any family members over this Well the funniest thing One of the funniest things my dad is But I think at this time He's still living in Denver It's before he moved back to the Bay Area He
Starting point is 00:12:34 Him and my mom weren't on good terms And the 49ers win the Super Bowl And he calls the house And he's like Hey pal Go out front I left you something under the doormat and I go into the dormant and it's I were actually I'm sorry I'm not telling the story
Starting point is 00:12:51 correctly he calls me and I'm like dad said he left something under the dormant my mom opens the door it's the one of the first time I was ever heard and she goes cock sucker and it's 49er super bowl pennant Super Bowl champion and a big helmet that I had on my wall till I graduated high school my dad dropped it off at the front door like there you go fucking sports yeah dude he's like that's for my That's for my ex and my son. Dude, I remember my dad leaving that from my mom and her being like, this motherfucker's not even paying child support. I've never heard.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And he's dropping off Super Bowl champion banners. They have? Like, no, like the week or two after. You know, because back in the eight, 90s, you're like getting it printed. You had to watch after ESPN. Yeah, they had like, oh, you can order it. Yeah, take down the number and call it. But he got a Super Bowl champion with both of their helmets.
Starting point is 00:13:43 in it was the new orleans it had the whole all like the marty groth shit dude i remember getting those and my mom being like she didn't like the niners until he died and then she was like all right he's dead i think i could like the niders again well r i p rip yeah i've never seen co-parent team battle that's what i mean bring in sport bring in the sport but i also live in california so it's a little different probably i bet you go to like alabama and shit oh i bet you know Auburn albama houses when you get that but here's the thing is they were never she, I think she chose the Broncos as kind of like, I ain't going to
Starting point is 00:14:17 cheer on the Niners because I know my ex-husband. One part. Is going to love it. Yeah. But I was, dude, I was in. Giants and the San Francisco Giants, San Francisco four-niners. When the Rockies came around in 93, everyone was like, Colorado Rocky fever.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And I was like, they're in the N.O.S. They can go fuck themselves. They had one, they had the batter. Who was the, um, they had Andrez, Gallagher, no. Walker Walker. Walker. Oh, Larry Walker. Walker was dude.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Because I used to play those baseballers. baseball games. He was always nasty. Larry Walker was MVP, dude. He was fucking nasty. I just found out he grew up in the same street as Cam Neely. Really? Canada. And they like played together. That's a badass street. That's a badass street. You got Cam Neely and Larry Walker.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Larry Walker hit like 415 one year or some shit like that. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Who's your, uh, who's your hockey team? I'm, I didn't grow up. I grew up, uh, without a hockey team. Avalanche came to Colorado. I like to drink beers and watch it in high school. That was fun. but I never got into it. So when the sharks first came... My dad was huge into the sharks.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah. My dad tried getting me to the sharks and I was kind of like... Well, we're California people. I've told this story a million times. But me and my dad and my brother we go to the cow palace because they were playing in the cow palace.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yo, dude, I almost wore my cow palace shirt. I have a cow palace shirt. I used to go to WWF there. Yeah. My brother went there. I didn't get to make one of my brother. My dad took my brother. But we go to there and we missed the first two quarters
Starting point is 00:15:42 because we thought it was football. Oh, you thought there were four. And we're like, oh, at least we'll get the second half. We're there for like 20 minutes, 40 minutes, and the fucking games over. We're like, oh, what the, that was my introduction to hockey. You're like, they don't even get that. No.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Mine was, it was fun. Like I said, it was fun to like the avalanche were immediately good. So it was like easy to. But then I just didn't stick with it. Does hockey always do that? An expansion team wins the ship. I mean, the knights came out and were great. That's the end of the list.
Starting point is 00:16:11 It's the abs and the knights. That was it. Oh, that was only. No cracking. No cracking. Yeah. And then now I'm, you know, my fiance, Katie, she's a huge bruin. I mean, but here's the thing about Boston that a lot of people don't talk about. And you know this from living out there. It's like there are families where it is like hockey here. And then the next thing is Patriots or Red Sox. There's like there are. There's a cult of Bruins fans that because it's the Northeast. That's where hockey thrives. Thrives. Thrives. And high school shit. Katie's brother was nasty at high school at hockey at high school like coming up. So they were a hockey family. Yeah. And I was like I was kind of up for adoption.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah. And I was like, dude, let's do this. And it's kind of fun because I'm learning hockey through them. But they're like really invested. So then there's moments where like Bruins has been going well last two seasons. And so I kind of am like, hey, should I leave? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You know, you get that sports feeling and go, shut up dad yeah he go i don't want to fuck this up oh my gosh because we have she knows the 49ers for me run that's number one with a bullet like i'm i'm i'm into i watch preseason games i'm into all that shit like on average how much football are you watching a week not just nineers though oh everything red zone once it starts football coming back is like 12 12 hour sundays give me that first first college game that happened like week zero week zero week zero week zero and then I'm like, oh, yeah, what we got? They're playing in Dublin.
Starting point is 00:17:45 We got Georgia Tech over in Dublin. Yeah, yeah. And then I'm like, and then I'm full shoveling in my face. Who's the college team? I grew up loving the buffs. So here's what's interesting. Colorado. Yeah, growing up in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And they were Natty's back then. 1990, same year. And that was like kind of, and my dad was a Cal fan. So here's how it worked. Dad was huge into Cal. Family loved the Warriors. Yeah. Love the Niners and Giants.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I stayed Niners Giants. there was no budget on that NBA when they traded Mitch rich when they traded Tim Hardaway to the heat yeah I was with my dad actually he was working at this liquor store in Mill Valley called Dan's Liquors and I'd like just chill there just hang out on the side of them and I remember being like I don't I don't think I'm gonna be a Warriors fan anymore and my dad was like what I was like I think I want to be a Nuggets fan and he was like the Denver Nuggets and I was like yeah I love love Lafonso Ellis. Like, I was just super into Lafonso Ellis. And then we got Matumbo. And I was kind
Starting point is 00:18:48 of like, yo, the nuggets are kind of sick. And they changed their jerseys to like the dark blue. It wasn't the, the skyline. It was like the nugget with the wrap around. Just kind of like fresh, cool unis. And I was like, I'm going to be a Nuggets fan. And my dad was like this. Okay. Yeah. And then the Warriors went off. Yeah. But that was, that was, They didn't go off then. No, but like later, my grandma died a Warriors fan and she would rub that shit in my face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:18 She'd like, dubs one. And I'd be like, I know. But that was a very, that time, that was probably what early 90s when you did that? Yeah, 93. So, I mean, that's when the Warriors were unwatchable. They were so bad. But they had run TMC. They had Mullen.
Starting point is 00:19:32 They had Hardaway. They had Mitch Red. But they all went away and they were bad for a while. Yeah. Then they had that weird futuristic design. Yeah. With Spril and choking out the coach, which I still. kind of liked them then. I loved. I was, I, but the Kings came and in a lot of the Bay Area,
Starting point is 00:19:47 people were like, they had C-Web, Lottie Divage and fucking all the Slavics and shit. Dude, they were actually battling the Lakers. Yes. Those Sacramento Kings teams were fun to cheer for as hell. Those Western Conference Finals, 2000, 2001, Kings Lakers. Yeah. I don't give a shit who you're a fan of. Robboree. Riggged, bro. We did that game with Bibby. Oh, yeah. And that's Monage. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Real. Yeah. That's, oh yeah, because he's from up there. He's from Sacramento. Yeah, he's from like outside of Sacramento. Yeah. Yeah, dude, that's, it's funny when Sacramento decides to be Bay Area or not. They're not.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Hey, hey, if you ain't on that damn Bay, if you ain't touching it, you ain't Bay. You know, what's funny about that is, do you remember when the Warriors were playing the Kings? I think in a playoff series recently, and they kicked E-40 out of a game in Sacramento. Did they? Yeah. And then everyone online was like, oh. your bay card is pulled gone they're like you're it got toasted i i forget what the exact story is but e40 got asked to leave a king's game and everyone was like you don't do that to the king of the
Starting point is 00:20:50 bay you can't if you think you're from the bay dude e40's the man when i went to ohio i brought the my get a report card out there for college and people looked at me like i was a fucking idiot like what is this shit man what the what did they react weird to e40 or you saying hella uh E40. E40? E40. Because some guys in, like some, I mean, I don't know. Nah, Hela was pretty.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Hela is a way that you immediately go. You're Northern California, huh? But I was the only California kid on the team. Really? So they had, they all thought anyone, if like in football, if they think you're from California, they think surfer dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 They don't realize. Southern California. Yeah. They don't realize how big the state is. It's also funny because it's like, it takes someone like Marshall Lynch to go to know, there's a Bay Area accent. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Like the way they, what's something? Markass bus. Like the way, mark it, like the way they announce it. Stupid do-do dumb out here, dog. Yeah, you'll hear people and you go, that's Bay Area. Rogue. Rogue is a very, that's an East Palo Alto term. Like, they, what's that route?
Starting point is 00:21:47 And then you got like the Diaz brothers in the whole Stockton lingo, all that. I hang out the Diaz boys. They're, they're awesome. I spazzed it. But Stockton is still not the Bay. Niners Chiefs, the last Super Bowl. Michael Che got me a ticket through SNL because he's a big Niners fan. He grew up loving the Niners just to.
Starting point is 00:22:07 piss off his brother. His brothers was a Giants fan and he was like, fuck that, go Niners. And that's Michael Jane in a nutshell. He just wants to piss people off. And so he's just like, go Niners. So we text all the time during Niners games and we beat the Lions. He was like, I'm asking Lauren for tickets. And I was like, dude, please. And then Shane was out there doing Bud Light shit. And Shane was like, I got a couch in my hotel room. You can just crash my hotel room. He's like, fuck it. I'll have Bud Light for another hotel room. And I was like, because you know about the Super Bowl, the hardest thing is hotel rooms. Yeah. And tickets. Those are the two hardest things to get. Che comes through with that. Shane comes through
Starting point is 00:22:42 with the couch in his hotel room. And he does a show with Burton, Tom, the night before the Super Bowl in Vegas. I think I was there. I think you might have. And we're all hanging out in the back. And Nate Diaz and Shane are friends. And I'm friends with some of Nate's friends. And we're talking. And Shane's like, Nate's like, Nate, this is Dan. And he's like, oh, you're a Niners fan. And I start talking about the Niners. And I got sewn to it that Nate was like, okay. He just left it. I was like, fuck, I was like, I think I just passed out so hard. Then Nadeez was like, I'm good, man.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I was like, no, I think honestly, we stopped the run. I think there's like a real good chance. Like, they bring in, again, like our secondary. They haven't seen our whole farm is the fucking man. Too much ball knowledge. Yeah. No, I was just going like, blah, la la la, like, tweaking. Yeah, and they were like, he was like, all right, man.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And she walked over. I was like, shit, I think I fucked up. But yeah, man, I mean, this is like, to me, this is my favorite. 49ers team. Like everyone has their favorite SNL cast. You know what I mean? This is arguably one of the greatest teams
Starting point is 00:23:45 of all time. I mean, dude. Number one, you got my favorite player of all time, Ronnie Lott. Yeah. We'll get into that team. We'll get into that team.
Starting point is 00:23:51 What are your thoughts on this, this current Niners team? We're 3 and 0 right now when we're taping this. I don't know when we're delivering this. Yeah. Next week, are they going to be 4.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Hopefully 4 and 0 beating the Jags. Injuries, man. I'm always nervous about injuries. and Bosa Taring his ACL was like heartbreaking. I was telling you before we sat down, I got on the flight and they were like, we don't know what it is, but it's not an ACL and you're like,
Starting point is 00:24:16 and I landed and it was like ACL and you're like, fuck. I hate when coaches talk about. Let's not even just give the people hope. It just, it just crushed me. That hurts. You turn on your phone and you're like, shit, shit.
Starting point is 00:24:32 But that's going to hurt him. Brock coming back. Um, you know, I think Kittle will be back in the next couple weeks. I think it's all about timing. It's all about timing. And if we, I think Saul are running the defense feels so relaxing just to be like, how he's got this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:50 He's going to dial something up. Seeing him that intensity on the sidelines as a Niners fan, it just feels great. It does. Just to be like, it feels like, oh, we have a chance. Because I think past couple of years. defense has been the part where you're like don't give it up don't get up don't give it up i mean and they don't have the same player they have lesser players now because a lot of those guys left yeah but i love d winters stepping up for dray greenlaw yeah winters is good but the corners we got to see what
Starting point is 00:25:20 the corner situation is they're young they're young in the back field i miss who fong and anyone could be a good corner when you have nick bose on the edge but he's not going to be there anymore what do you think you know i i think right now that they have three wins getting through this first quarter of the season, that's how you break it down when you're playing. You break the season down into quarters. Now that has 17, whatever. But like the first quarter, this is like about learning what your team does well, learning what your team doesn't do well. And if you can collect wins wall learning your team through these first eight weeks, like that's huge. Because like what you just said, it's about timing on playing your best football at the end of the year. Yeah. So the fact that
Starting point is 00:26:02 they are cleaning up right now in the division collecting wins without their guys that's all a positive it's just going to be on if they can continue that progress because you know brock purdy he's going to come in he's going to be a different player yeah that toe we all forget that the turf toad it retired the most athletic man dion sanders turf toe is nothing to play around did you ever get that never got that but i i had bad i used to get the jones fractures the i'd break my fifth metatarsal those are bad was there anything you guys did in new england to time like warming up later in the season did you was there anything like you know you're talking about like playing your best football at the right time i feel like you're the patriots were exceptional at like kind of similar
Starting point is 00:26:48 to what the chiefs do now where they just kind of hang around in the fight and then you see them in december kind of turn the corner because that's because we were learn our team for those first eight weeks because each year you have new coaches and new players no matter what this is the national football league there's always turnover every year so you may lose a guy here you're trying to figure out what you have to do to you know protect this guy make this guy productive how are we getting production are we giving out tendencies of only ways of getting production all right now we got to work in this like that's how it was in new england sure each week we were just trying to win the game but also trying to improve our team and learn our team so by the time
Starting point is 00:27:29 you get to week 12, which I like to call cream season, that's when the cream rises to the top, you just get past that pasteurization period. There's a farmer somewhere that loves ball right now that's like, this is my whole shit. One thousand percent. He's like, there's an explosion at the flavor factory. Now there's dairy in my football. And if you're trying to become a butter team, dog, if you're trying to become a butter team out of your. That's when you know, like, that's when you see those teams exceed because all the shit, they're, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, learn their season along the line and they know what they're doing well and they know what they got to stay away from and then they also had some stuff in the back pocket for when these things have
Starting point is 00:28:08 been working that no one ever sees yeah where you go we got a little surprise yeah and a lot of it is also health yeah i mean dude in the NFL it seems like health it's all it's that's everything that's everything that's everything you say nothing more important than the health of the team especially like the i mean as a 49er fan you know you just go like come on it's everything you go again yeah I don't know. What is wrong? Stop. What did you guys do? It's like, that's like every week when someone goes down. You're like, I'm sorry. As a fan, you take it personal. You're like, I'm going to stop eating cereal late. Yeah. God's upset at me. That's why George Kittles hamstring got hurt was because I shouldn't have had a bowl of Cocoa Krispies at 2.30 in the morning because I smoked a joint. Yeah. The superstition is real. But the thing is also with, you know, the bad thing about the Niners, they've been so, they've been really good for the last five, seven. eight years right since Kyle so they they play deep into those seasons so with when you have a lot of guys a lot of continuity you play deep in the seasons you have less recovering the off season and they go to to go deep in the season like they have and not collect a Super Bowl that's tough because
Starting point is 00:29:15 these things start to happen injuries to older players yeah we'll start to happen the older they get that's just how it goes so the only solution is we'll just win the ring this year and then everyone will feel better and then we'll stop getting injured Or yeah. You go. I think so. Yeah, I don't know, man. It is one of those things where it's the older I get, the more I understand people getting injured.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I'm like, dude, I get up off of my couch and I almost pull something. I can't imagine. Right now, like they're getting, the Niners are having a lot of success. And Christian McCaffrey, he's touching the ball a lot. But that scares me because they're collecting all these wins. And is he going to be able to do this? Yeah. Because the numbers haven't told us that he has.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And right now he's on pace to break the record for all-time touches in a season. Yeah, which you're like with a guy that is older that has had a history of injuries. That's so we would do this. So like in New England, I would start out hot with like 30 catches in the first, 35 catches in the first three weeks, four weeks. Yeah. Then we would design where they wouldn't throw to me for like two weeks and get tendencies somewhere else and also take the load off of me.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Yeah. You know, like that's, we're plague calling medical staff, training staff, all comes into play like yeah you want to fucking you want to ride the the horse until he fucking dies but sometimes you got to bring that other horse you know you see a guy trying to get away and they take the second horse jump to the other horse jump to the other horse jump to the other horse some red dead type shit yeah dude i it's almost like in baseball where they count the pitches yeah where you're almost kind of like hey man we can't let you throw that much i i thought that's why they brought in brian robinson i think that's that's huge like to bring them in when we got
Starting point is 00:30:58 that trade. Also, it makes the 49ers coming out to many men with him and Pretty Ricky. Fucking sick. Yeah, you come on out to many men and it's like, I don't know a team that's going to stick with him in the first quarter. Is that what they call them? That's what I call him. Ricky? Ricky Persol's the man. I call him Pretty Ricky. Every time he turns to that ball.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It's pretty. He does have like a swag about. Dude, he got shot in Union Square. He tried to take him out, right? Do we have a video yet? No, I don't think they have. I haven't seen anything yet. But, dude, he said he wrestled him. Dude, he's the fucking man. He also was like, my friend is a huge Florida fan. And when we drafted him, he called me up.
Starting point is 00:31:33 He's like, you guys got a dog. Yeah. And I was like, and then he got shot. And then he played. And then now he's, you know, also Fortniteers getting Ayuk back. That'll be huge. Like that's going to be something that were tendencies where they don't know. It's just going to change.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Also getting Juan Jenny, third and one. Without a doubt. But then it also, you know, there's a fine line with that. How much time is he had on task with Brock that time? So like. Yeah. You know what I mean? The relationship's got to get back there.
Starting point is 00:32:00 We got to get back to it. But hopefully, timing-wise, like, heats up. It times up right. Hopefully it does. Hopefully you get the injuries out early and you get healthy at the end. That's how it happens sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:09 The NFL is, this is why I love it as a sport. It's king. It's emotional. You're, like, worried. You, like, have a worry where you're like, huh? Like, I play, like, I'm on tour now. I'm starting the tour as we're recording this,
Starting point is 00:32:25 this Thursday in L.A. But I'm kicking off the tour. But as I'm playing in the travel with the tour, I'm like, I need to see the Niners. So I need to be home in order to watch the Niners or go to a game. I need to be able to like, I plan around the NFL season. Bill Burr was the first one that did that. Oh, yeah. When I was coming up, he would talk about on his podcast.
Starting point is 00:32:45 He'd be like, no, I tour my. I go and I see NFL games that I want to see. And you're like, it's fucking. Smart. It's the way to go, dude. But you need a little juice. You can't be doing that earlier in your career. I want to go see a Niners game and they're like, dude, you're not selling
Starting point is 00:32:57 take it, suck a dick. Yeah, I'll shut the fuck up. Sorry about that. So, hey, Dan, can you get you to lower the mic a little bit? Oh, yeah, sure. Oh, lower it? Lower, yeah, yeah. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:06 We just want to see that pretty face. What's that pretty face? I'm hiding. I'm like, Prince. I'm going to hide behind it. I don't want it. Man, I miss Prince. Dude, I've been watching old, you know how the algorithm gets you?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah. They're showing me Prince clips of him just fucking wailing. Just picking up guitars and being like, oh, this little thing? he's like the best music like that's what people don't really i don't know a half-time show too oh yeah it was unbelievable i loved him speaking the dudes that could hoop too and he could hoop he and then beat your ass and it gets you pancakes right after like chappelle's giving you a finger roll and then he's just like i wrote a song about that yeah i wrote a song about just breaking your ankles and it'd be a song that you would want to fuck to which is weird exactly this is about my ankles
Starting point is 00:33:51 getting snapped but why am i horny anybody else notice after that song that were all way hornier prince yeah how did you do that he's like a little guy favorite what's your favorite prince song i mean i'm not like a giant prince guy but when i first heard the foo fighters cover darling nicky yeah and then i heard the original i was like yo this song is nasty and then you listen i mean purple rains obviously everyone's favorite i like nothing compares nothing but raspberry beret there's just a ton of stuff where you're just like he right corvette He was in, little racco there. But he just jams.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And he just put his tush out. He used to wear a little outfits or his little tushy was showing. Yeah, dude, I don't even. I think he was above, he was above sexuality too. Yeah, he was like, yeah, whatever, man. Yeah, dude. He's like, cool, you guys see my butt?
Starting point is 00:34:42 You're gay for looking at my butt. He's like, I don't even think that's a thing. No. I won't even show my fiancee my butt. Katie, I have to, like, put up a towel. I'm like, don't look at my droopy, 42-year-old ass. You do the, you do a, you do a trainer towel piece? I feel like I should whatever
Starting point is 00:34:59 Like she's like I'm like I have a girl Don't lie to me I know I have a gross ass I reference the trainer That's the trainer You put a sideline Do you have two trainers
Starting point is 00:35:10 Right next to you on the sideline Holding while you're taking a piss How many games did you pee in? I peed in a lot Really? Yeah because I would always get IVs And I'd be over hydrated for games So when there's a moment like
Starting point is 00:35:21 So I would go by the like You see where all the phones are Yeah I go in between the phones in the bench and you'd have two trainers and they'd hold towels and you'd get on your knees and you'd just piss you know where i peed like that where candle stick part giant's dodgers we're going back to my dad's little yellow bug and i had to piss and he's like pal you got to piss under the car i was like what do you mean and i got on my knees and pissed you didn't do the open the
Starting point is 00:35:46 passenger door yeah yeah yeah yeah but it was a bug so it was a sure and i did the baseball pose one knee down. Yeah. Little T-ball pose, but I was just pulling my little giant sweatpants down. I was just taking a piss. I remember being so cute.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I remember being so cute. I remember being so humiliated like going to Giants games and they had just the barrel of the pee. Dude, the tub? Yeah, the tub. You have a tub in there. I was like a little kid. Dude, my dad's when I,
Starting point is 00:36:13 so when I lived in Denver, again, this is another reason why the Broncos thing is my dad's half brother had, he lived in Colorado. Yeah. but um and he had bronco season tickets and he would take me to bronco games because his wife didn't care so you'd be like you want to go and i'm like dude i'll go to broncos games but i wear nine or shit 249 and i remember old mile high stadium had the tubs the tubs and i remember
Starting point is 00:36:39 being like seven years old being like dude what is this yeah you got some drunk ass dude drunk Guys doos everywhere. Yeah, you see that? Some guy touching you, you're like, yo, no. And he's like, oh, he's the man. I love Bobby Humphreys. And you're like, oh, fuck, please don't touch me. Not a divider in sight.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah. Dude, no privacy. No privacy. Zero. The color. It gave me, it also made you, it kind of made you grow up a little, though. Yes. It did.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And some of us, now that we're older, can admit it, made a little, some of us gun shy for a while. Very gun shy. And no one talked about this. And this is why. there's so much anger in the world is because men weren't allowed to talk about the fact that you're putting boys in this situation and then we're not exactly,
Starting point is 00:37:23 some of us are growing up without dads in the house. So we're a little fucking, we're not as, you know what I mean? You're gun shy. So then you have to find the perfect pisser in Candlestick Park, which I still remember,
Starting point is 00:37:33 was a bathroom where you'd go and then it would wrap around and no one knew there was a little stall right there. Oh yeah. I'd come down a level just to piss in that bathroom. I used to sit. Because remember we, you didn't grow,
Starting point is 00:37:44 I don't know if you went there but you had a Safeway select can or it was like maybe a milk curtain you'd get like a $5 ticket to the Niners game sick and we would go to the Niners game and they would you know where the stands or they'd put the stands down because they had the baseball configuration yeah yeah that's where they put the K-O-A gorilla or the KNBR gorilla yes yeah yeah so they'd have that down like right here yeah and then you there was the horn right here and there's like seats right here that you couldn't see the other side of the field yeah but that's where we were we would always sit.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Really? And you would see the chain link fence to under the tunnel and we'd just go sit there and maybe see Brent Jones, Jerry Rice or something. Like that, we were talking about this before, but I really think the next time they build a stadium, it needs to be in candlestick point again. Yeah, there's no shot. I know. There's no shock.
Starting point is 00:38:35 The city won't do it. Let's go back into time around where this game took place January 28, 1990, and go over some of the pop culture. Number one movie driving Miss Daisy. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time.
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Starting point is 00:40:32 Every week, we study the tape, talk to decision-makers, and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a diehard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture. If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Matt Jones.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL cover zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the... Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. Smart for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.
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Starting point is 00:43:19 Don't remember that. How am I supposed to live without you, Michael Bolton? I love a good Michael Bolton. You kidding me? In a boy growing up in a house with a mom going through a divorce? You think that wasn't on loose? She went triple platinum. Tell me how are my ass supposed to live with the shit.
Starting point is 00:43:36 It's burned in my brain. I'm surprised Trish wasn't putting holes in the drywall. I was in the that shit. too much dealing through bankruptcy cash just right through it yeah dude I'm gonna remember that ghost pretty woman total recall teenage mutant ninja turtles we're all popping off in the office okay teenage mutant ninja turtles insane the best the best movie version and soundtrack unbelievable well now number two has vanilla eyes oh is that number two we're talking about the original which was a little darker you got casey jones loved casey jones i called
Starting point is 00:44:11 Nate Ebner, Casey Jones, because that movie you look like him, yeah, 1,000% I love that. You also, as a, at this point, I think I'm on my, I'm six going on seven, kind of understanding the sexual attraction between April and Raphael in the movie, where you go,
Starting point is 00:44:28 I mean, in 2025, there'd be a group online going, loving a turtle man is exactly acceptable, but in 1990 you're going, is this chick want to fuck a turtle? You know what I mean? You're like a seven-year-old boy, and you're like, hey, this is a fucks up. I don't know. I'm a turtle guy. I'm a fan of the turtles. But, you know, April really kind of
Starting point is 00:44:48 wants to fuck Raphael and he definitely does. Oh yeah. He had a bad attitude. But Casey Jones is a human man. Listen, I'm sorry. I hate to get political. I think I saw total recall when this came out. I think I saw it when it was like maybe three years down the line five six. You saw a three boob chick. Remember that three boob chick? That was the first boobs, the second boobs I ever saw. dude the first boobs i ever saw were at lake baryessa sick in person in person you saw a live tit first yeah i saw live well we were right in brother that's growing up with caviar no this place was like lake barriessa used to get wild oh yeah now you got to understand where my dad and my grandma both died lake where clear lake oh wow so brother that's that's i saw tities you can't burn out of
Starting point is 00:45:37 my brain i saw women with no teeth all titit no thank you we were like like monsters but i was that barriessa and we're there's like a there's like a rock that people used to jump off of and we're driving and and we're like real young and my there's this girl that says we'll show boobs for beer or something because it was like a big party like shit yeah and uh i saw some and my mom cover your eyes yeah dude i was like damn angie dude dude it is i'm sorry first titty first live titty is first live titty is a a boy sweet shout out cherry creek athletic club where my mom used to leave me after school took a wrong turn lady was getting out of the shower maybe eight or nine years old live boob live boob
Starting point is 00:46:27 saw it and was like i'm on this team live boob came out it was walk different walk back into daycare different yeah walk back in i was like what do you guys playing with toys you children I'm over here, oogling tits. Let me get a Coke. Yeah. Can I get a rum and coke just like dad, mostly rum? Make that thing fucking tastes like gas. Dude.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I remember sipping my dad's rum and coke one time and being like, dude, what do you drink? And then that's how you get cirrhosis by 48. That's how you're like, yo, this guy is just drinking ethanol. It was wild. Yeah, I used to make my grandma drinks. Dude, I used to make my mom drinks. I was like, I think I was eight, seven. Shout out, little bartenders.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I used to make my mom, because my mom worked, you know, she was like single mom working and I knew if I made her a little southern comfort Manhattan on the rocks, she'd be pretty cool when I came home. And I was a bad kid.
Starting point is 00:47:25 I wasn't like a bad kid. I wasn't good at school. So I knew that would soften the blow. I'd be like, by the way, I got in trouble again today. There you go. I got kicked out in the hall again for talking too much.
Starting point is 00:47:37 But here you go. You're making Manhattan's? Dude. I watched her do it, and I just asked how she'd do it. I was like, I'm going to learn how to do it. My grandma likes Sunny D and vodka. Shout out. Shout out, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Your grandma and I would have holler in college. Yeah, but that's called Red Bluff, California. Sunny D. Yeah, my dad was all rum and Coke. All rum and Coke. All rum, very little Coke. A touch of Coke. Just to give a color.
Starting point is 00:48:03 A sprinkle. Yeah. You'd make it like a beige Coke. What was life like for Dan Soder in 1990? It was sick, dude. Honestly, like I know my parents were divorced, but I lived in Aurora, Colorado, suburbs of Denver, like literally just doing suburban kid shit, riding bikes.
Starting point is 00:48:22 You know what I? When I would come out to the bay, so I went to year-round elementary school, which very few people do growing up. But it honestly, I think it's better than regular. Because you go nine weeks on, three weeks off. So your spring break is like three weeks off, right? Then you go nine weeks on again.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Then your summer break is six weeks instead of the full summer. So you only get six weeks, but you go nine on, three off, nine on, six off for winter. Wow. So you get six weeks in the winter. Yeah. I was in San Francisco all the time because my mom was working. And so she just sent me out to the Bay Area. You skiing them?
Starting point is 00:49:01 No, we didn't have the money to ski. But I would come out to the Bay and it was like, I loved my, my grandma lived in Greenbrae in Marin. and so my dad was living with her because of the Bacardi and Cokes and then I would just chill with them. I would just chill with him and go to the liquor store and like hang out with him in Mill Valley. It was fucking sick.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And the mafia was still very much involved in the garbage collection. So we'd get WWF tickets and 49ers tickets from this kid tent. This like Italian kid that clearly was associated somewhat. It was like this good looking Italian kid and he'd come by and like Gary my dad would be like, hey, I do you know,
Starting point is 00:49:40 He'd be like, hey, Dan's in town. You guys want to go see the Niners? And then we'd get seats that were fucking sick. Like 14 row 50 yard line at Candlestick. Jesus. I got to see Steve Young start, his first start in 1993. Shout out Teddy. I think it was against the Vikings.
Starting point is 00:49:55 But it was fucking awesome. So who's your favorite wrestler back then? I was a huge Hulkomaniac. Everyone was. Everyone. And then I became. You had the wrestling pillows? Oh, wrestling buddies?
Starting point is 00:50:06 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, dude. Ultimate Warrior and Hogan. Those were the two that I had. But I remember the divisiveness of, you're speaking around 1990. This was a year after Warrior v. Hogan in WrestleMania. And that split the schoolyard more than anything.
Starting point is 00:50:23 You saw your Warriors kids who later were the Coke addicts. And then the Hogan fans, later the alcoholics, you really saw all my friends that were super into Warrior had drug problems. Everybody that was into Warrior growing up was like, oh shit, he got to. into blow in high school i remember that yeah he i mean oh he's this monster oh they all brought that energy to their fucking substance abuse yeah dude rick rick flare guy no i wasn't into wcw until the n w o
Starting point is 00:50:53 i would watch saturday night i would watch wcd no one really was yeah because it was like you would watch wcw on saturday nights steen was on wcw in me yeah he went to but he was that was surfer sting and then when they did the nw o angle he became the crow yeah the crow sting better. And that was, listen, you're getting Attitude Era and you're getting NWO wrestling at its peak, Monday Night Wars. I used to love that. And then I became really, because my brother is seven years older to me, so he was more of that early generation. And then I was like Stone Coal Rock. Those were my gold dust. That was me in high school being like, they're writing this for me. It's a little edgier. I'm not a kid anymore. I don't want those bright colors. I want
Starting point is 00:51:35 Stone Cold drinking beers and flicking people off. Dude, that school, my high school. high school was on, everyone's high school was on fire. Got suspended for it. Yeah? Yeah. To a teacher, got suspended. Dude, I love it. I will not suck it.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Well, they didn't even see. I went to Catholic school. Oh, yeah, well, there you go. And a lady walking by sees me because we're eating lunch and you have to sit down to eat lunch. You got five minutes and then you get to play. And Mr. Callis is walking. I go, this lady walking outside of our school, waves them down and goes, this guy was doing
Starting point is 00:52:08 some inappropriate stuff to be, you know, fucking got, got snake. Hey, lady, snitches gets stitches. Yeah. Why are you fucking telling on kids? I mean, what an asshole. Bad. If I was, if I knew that lady, if like later she's like, I saw a little boy doing something and I went and told on him, I'd be like, we're not friends anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:27 No. You fucking suck. That is bad. Why would you do that? You know, back then, you go, if I saw that, I go, hey, I'd say that kid, I'd be like, every kid was. Everyone was laughing about it. Like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:38 That kid's, if I was walking by it on there, I go, that kid's hilarious. Yeah. And then he'd turn around, I'd sit down. Like, you know what I mean? Dude, so I'll tell you right now, 1991, it was exactly 1991. My dad took me to Cal Palace to see WWF. It was a dark match. It was macho king Randy Savage versus the ultimate warrior.
Starting point is 00:53:00 You do a good macho man. Oh, yeah. But it was, I didn't like the macho man then. I hated him. Yeah. But I got a styrofoam, intercontinental heavyweight champion. you built. That was like my prize possession.
Starting point is 00:53:11 He bought me one of those like little belts. Yeah, yeah. Dude, we rode the Marin airliner because my dad had a couple of deweys. So we weren't, we weren't driving to Cal Palace, if you know what I mean. Julian, we were taking the bus. And then, dude, Cal Palace, I swear to God, people, you know, your brother will tell you this. Your dad will tell you this. My dad used to drink giant styrofoam beers, like 32 ounces.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah. Just Miller like ripping butts. inside watching wrestling yeah he'd be like this uh yeah he thought it was hilarious he didn't get why i liked wrestling but he was like down with it he was like this funny that's the 90s dude it was so fun now hi there this is josh clark from the stuff you should know podcast if you've been thinking man alive i could go for some good true crime podcast episodes then if we got good news for you stuff you should know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time there's a shootout in broad daylight people using axes in really
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Starting point is 00:54:39 My name is Elena Sada, and this is my story. It's a story of how I learned to hide, to cry, to survive, and eventually how I got out. This season on Sacred Scandal hear the full story from the woman who lived it. Witness the journey from devout follower to determine survivor as Elena exposes the man behind the cloth and the system that protected him. Even the darkest secrets eventually find their way to the light. Listen to Secret Scandal, the mini secrets of Marcial Masiel as part of the My Cultura podcast network on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get her podcasts. What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here.
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Starting point is 00:56:34 NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? It looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that? Yes. I might want to go back at the Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working
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Starting point is 00:58:07 We don't just love college football, tie. We live it. Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football Podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What in the 90s area, your 90s kid? Yeah, yeah. Do you wish we could bring back? Oh, man. No cell phones.
Starting point is 00:58:28 No one going to their pocket and looking down all the time. Like, I'm trying to do that more. I'm realizing back then you just lived like in the moment more yeah and things were able to like bring us together more yeah because we all weren't fractured in little things so stuff like michael bolton or like ghost everyone would talk about it because everyone would see it and then you wouldn't have your little subreddit where you could break down the music in the movie why is the music it's like you watch and you're like oh dude that movie's great the guy killing him the piano get off my train and everyone would have that shit that's why we're incapable of
Starting point is 00:59:03 doing that now because everyone's fractured so like it was crazy the world series also dude if you remember the the super bowl back then the half time show was like dogs catching frisbee's yeah it was like a marching band it wasn't like janet jackson's tick coming out yeah you didn't see titty no live man a lot of boys i understand why people rage against the machine if a lot of boys first titties was janet jackson and then they got in trouble for it yeah they did because i was i was like I was heavily drinking by that point and I was like so diddy come out I'm going to get another drink. I'm fucking I didn't even give a shit. I was it. Is there you titty? Yeah, whatever, whatever Timberlake. But 1990 to me was like probably one of the best years of my it. It was one of
Starting point is 00:59:50 the worst and best years of my life. My parents got divorced. But when my dad moved back to the bay, I didn't understand. I loved it. Yeah. Because I was just like like no offense to Denver. Denver's great to grow up. It's a safe place to grow up. But San Francisco in the fucking 90s might have been the greatest city in the world. It's just a cool melting part of culture. It was everything.
Starting point is 01:00:14 It was like people could live all together in San Francisco in a way that like obviously the tech boom really fucked up when all the money came in and they like priced everyone out. But there was just this feeling of like camaraderie and neighborhood. Yeah. And like the Niners were a big part of that. Huge. So we're the Giants.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Giants were like, you could just wear Niners shit and people would be like, Niners. And you'd be like, it was just, it was, I don't know, I loved spending, like I said, those six weeks in the winter or I'd come out for the summer and just being in the Bay Area that when I would go back to Denver, and again, you know, I got nothing but love for the 5-2-8-0. I would be upset. I would be like inconsolable for two weeks, being like, I got to hang out with my mom and her boyfriend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I was like, dude, I was hanging out at a liquor store all day, eating kick cats, going to the arcade, playing street fighter. It was the shit. I loved 1990, 1991. My grandma and my dad moved up to Lake County in like 92. Ooh, that's up there, though. And that sucked. And that was when, that was when shit changed for me. And I was kind of like, yeah, I kind of want to stay in Colorado.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I think I'm good. Like, coming to San Francisco and being in Marin, no, unbeatable. Lake County? It's hot and in middle nowhere. I'll see you. And the people are terrifying. Yeah. And people get mad.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Dude, I'll do shows at Sacramento Punchline and I'll like, I'll shit on Lake County. And there's been a couple times where people like, hey. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:01:44 no, fuck that. That shit sucks. You killed my whole family. You killed my dad and my aunt and my grandma. So fuck you. How far is Lake County from Chico? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I know up the 101, it's two and a half. hours from San Francisco so it's a drive it's like you go clear well clear lake was always three for me that's about right yeah so you go like clear lake you'd take like you know you go through sacramento you can go up a different angle but if you go the one-on-one you'd like get to you kaya yeah and then you take a right and then but it's fucking gorgeous it's beautiful dude it's gorgeous and by the way there are awesome people I'm still friends with that live there I'm just doing it obviously for jokes but no offense going from Marin to Lake County you
Starting point is 01:02:27 is holy shit that's that tough yeah that was rough and it was also like i felt i felt kind of like ripped off because we used to be able to go to niners games yeah i took my grandma to the second to last game at candlestick against the rams the last game was against the falcons where navarro bowman had that like 78 yard fumble recovery yeah i don't know if you remember that those bowman fucking got a huge fumble recovery but i went to the second to last game which was the Rams and I took my grandma down and coming from Lake County was a fucking hike hike especially with traffic now she was like back then there was no traffic no 80 she's 80 at the time she was like 80 fucking two or something 84 I can't put on tunes old people used
Starting point is 01:03:15 to love the nineers because like my grandma love Joe Mont like my grandma used to have the 49er umbrella oh yeah where Joe Montana erians and shit dude they would wear the love the old old ladies love the niners they did and my grandma was to the day she died like up and when she was in the home in sacramento i would go see her and i'd be like i would catch nineer games yeah and i'd be like i came out for a nineer game and she'd be like yeah she was watching yeah she like still she fucked with the nineers when they when mcdaniel was on the team for the 2019 super bowl uh i went to the nfc championship game and his wife snuck me and my friend onto the field with the team yeah and i called my grandma on i'm like
Starting point is 01:03:57 you'll have no idea where i am she's like where are you i'm like i'm at levi's on the field and she's like i'm standing up i'm looking at the tv where are you and you're like yeah dude it was nuts i took a i took a cup of confetti yeah i was like this is nuts that's so awesome got to meet steve young he was just walking by and i was like hey you're the greatest of all time and he was like thanks man steve or joe joe yeah i mean my dog's name was montana yeah i had dwight and montana you did yeah you're a dog named montana we had dwight and montana i fucking loved it yeah you do Dwight, I mean, come on. He had to get rid of them.
Starting point is 01:04:28 They started biting people. Really? Yeah. Dude, Montana was the most loyal golden retriever from when I was eight to 21. Shout out, Montana. He finished his career in Kansas City then? No, he finished in Colorado. Close.
Starting point is 01:04:42 He wanted to go to, dude, I swear to God, I remember two things. Joe Montana getting traded to the chiefs. I was in Marin. Yeah. I was at my grandma's apartment. I was the one that went and got to San Francisco Chronicle that said Chief Joe. I think that's what it said. It had something like that, like a headline.
Starting point is 01:04:59 And then I bought Kansas City Chiefs merch with Joe Montana's face on it and went to that Monday night football Broncos game. Yeah, where they came back. Where they came back? I was in the stands. Yeah, Eric Stone Street. We did that game.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I was in the stands with my dad, my uncle David, wearing chief stuff. Bro. Because I was like, dude, Joe Montana to me was God. We stopped, like my dad stopped. being a Niners fan when they traded him yeah really like we my dad didn't like Steve at all I love
Starting point is 01:05:31 Steve young I like him I grew I grew to like him he's the dad that stepped up he's not the stepdad he's the dad that stepped up he just came through and it was like also got very fun very quickly it did like oh we're gonna go on 35 yard runs when ever when the play was broke down yeah but Joe was like Tom Brady at all right dude and like Joe's the reason there is Tom Brady mm-hmm eight-year-old Tom Brady's at the catch at the catch like you're you're growing up at San Mateo he's watching the and Joe Montana was just cool never through it never through an interception in a Super Bowl that's crazy cool Joe he's just telling Harris Barton there's John Candy hey guys there's John Candy HB is that John Candy so my favorite stories of all time all he's a person
Starting point is 01:06:15 where so my dad uh this Super Bowl my dad is uh working for southern wine and spirits he's like a liquor rep. This was, I think, before the liquor store. If you can't tell my dad loved drinking. Hey. I don't know if we've picked this up yet from Dewey to cirrhosis. You know, Gary loved himself a cocktail. It's all right. But he sold, he sold liquor for Southern wines and spirits. And he sold something like, like 20 cases of Domperianian to Clark's by the Bay, which was Dwight Clark's restaurant. yeah in san francisco and they gave my dad new year's eve tickets to the party where all the 49ers were yeah and i was with him because it was the winner and he was like you want to go to
Starting point is 01:07:06 the new year's eve party with the 49ers and i'm like i want to meet joe montana i want to meet ronny lot yeah that was number one yeah yeah ronny lots to this day my favorite forty nine cut it off bud i mean not only that for a regular season i dare you to throw across the middle on that man no i double dog dare you i just saw a clip of michael irvin talking about he's like you want me run a slant on ronty lot and i was like as much as i hate the cowboys i love michael irvin who he's the best storyteller he's the fucking man yeah and so and it's also like now that we're older and he's not killing the niners anymore i can go like michael irons and it's part of your generation so like you gravitate towards everyone in your
Starting point is 01:07:41 generation yeah and i love it but he's like we're gonna go to clarks by the bay and he's gonna he took me and my grandma and we went and i met roger craig i met roger crag i met like Harris Barton. I met Jesse Sopoulou. I met like all the Niners I wanted to be. All these all loved him. Dude, I love Justice Spoon.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I grew up, there's a lot of Polynesians in the Bay. Absolutely. And Justice Sopoulos, like, the guy. Yeah. The man that protected Joe
Starting point is 01:08:08 better than anybody. Without a doubt. And then Tom Rathman. Love Tom. I was number 44, all growing up because of Rathman. I mean, my dad,
Starting point is 01:08:16 I remember watching 409. Then when I swagged up, I went to 21 because of Dion. That's sick, though. Get, get looking right. It's a bridge. I mean, dude, prime time. Everyone love prime time.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Everyone love fucking Diod. Everybody love primetime. And I remember being like meeting all these guys and being like, all right, where's Ronnie Lott? And we got to meet Ronnie Lott. And I was like, my night's set. And then Joe Montana came in. And the people around Montana, it was so, him and Jennifer came in.
Starting point is 01:08:44 They took pictures. They like did a thing. And then they left. And I didn't get to meet him. And I was like, and I was bummed him. I think my dad was trying to fuck one of the waitresses. and he's like sitting there like you know just spitting and um i was with him and she i probably didn't want to fuck my dad and she was like hey are you all right she could tell us sad
Starting point is 01:09:04 and i was like yeah i wanted to meet joe montana and she was like you're a big 49er fan and i was like huge she's like come with me and she walked me through the restaurant to jerry rice's table where him and his wife and your future prom date and they were all they were all there and i got to like shake his hand and then i was just like Starstruck. I couldn't even talk. I was just like, uh-huh. And he's like, you're a 4-9 fan? I was like, uh-huh. He's like, well, it's nice to meet you. And I was like, uh-huh. And then we just walked back. And I was like, because she didn't take my dad. She left that fucking creep by the bar. But she took me and I went back and I was like, I just met Jerry Rice. And my dad's like,
Starting point is 01:09:43 what did you say? And I was like, nothing. It's Jerry Rice. Yeah. It was just nuts. Like to be in, to see him, you want to talk about something that'll shake you more than an in-person boob is you're one of your heroes in the flesh and i think like ronnie lot i loved him but ronnie lot was like my guy yeah everybody loved montana rice roger craig i was like no no no i love the gritty knock the shit out of you 42 is still my favorite number like yeah ronnie lot and he brought a toughness to the west coast even when he went to the raiders i was like get him ronnie that was when jerry went to the raiders that's when i kind of liked the raiders yeah and i always respected i love tim brown
Starting point is 01:10:22 Tim Brown was the man. Yeah, even if you didn't, there was a thing with Niners and Raiders fans, but everyone loved Tim Brown from the Niners. He just played the game right. He's just 81 was just the class act. It was kind of like even when Marcus Allen was fun. Bruce Allen. Bo Jackson. You're not going to hate Bo Jackson. No.
Starting point is 01:10:42 But you can hate Raiders fans. You know how you like the Kings a little bit? Yeah, exactly. Because they were flashy. It was kind of like the king thing. You know what else it was? It was like Ricky Henderson. It's like even if you're a Giants fan.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Everyone love Ricky. Who do you not? You run. Dude, RIP. RIP. RIP. The greatest sports stories of all time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I've been like, there's too many good Ricky Henderson. The best one that recently came out was someone was talking about in the locker room, John 316. And then Ricky walked over and goes, who's talking about, Ricky doesn't care what John is going to hit. Ricky's going to hit 350. He thought he was talking about. He literally might be the greatest third person talker about her ever. I mean, he's the only person that we should be like, he's a last. to talk there.
Starting point is 01:11:23 When he signed the deal with the Toronto Blue Jays and they gave him a million dollar check and then he framed it and then like a month later they're like dude you gotta cash that
Starting point is 01:11:32 that's a million dollar check and he's like oh it's a framed it and you're like that's legal tender Ricky Henderson is the fucking man and the A's
Starting point is 01:11:42 crushed me as a kid 89 89 World Series the earthquake series yeah yeah they fucked the giants like four months before this game
Starting point is 01:11:50 or three months yeah swept them and they fucked them and they fucked them up. They didn't just like beat them because I'm a Will Clark, Kevin Mitchell, Matt. Yeah, we all liked Williams was my guy. Like Matt. I love Barry. I mean, Barry comes in. I love Benito Santiago coming from the knees. Oh, dude, I loved their little. J.T. Snow. J.T. was my guy. Everyone loved J.T. Snow. I loved J.T. Snow. And I loved, on a popular opinion, I loved the Jeff
Starting point is 01:12:17 Kent Barry Barnes. Loved it. I love that they fought. Because they fought, but then they would like They would hit like they fought. They rite. Yeah. They would just be like, fuck. Like, Bonds would hit it and be like, oh, yeah, you want me a fifth? Fuck you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:28 And like, do it again. You're like, let's go with your cop mustache. Yeah. And they just get into it. And you'd be like, dog. Jeff had such a bad attitude. Dude, I loved it. He had a rotten attitude.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I loved it. Sometimes it's like blue cheese. Yeah. Sometimes rotten is great. Yeah. It's like, yeah, dude, fuck that. Not too much of it, though. And then you went to the Dodgers and you're kind of like, perfect.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Yeah. Fucking, I hate it. he was a very easily hateable guy but you know what it was the niners version of that was Sherman was being on the Legion of Boom and being like this might be one of my most despised enemies of all time to immediately being like Richard Sherman is the greatest player of all time like I when he when Kyle and went and got him the year the Seahawks didn't resign him I was like I'm so on board with this yeah I loved it it was good for you you guys yeah what are you thinking what's going on over there yeah i was thinking about didn't
Starting point is 01:13:25 the uh this team had a giant who was the giant that broke montana's back that was in the that was the season after no but he was on this team wasn't he was he oh bert yeah nose tackle yeah came over oh they got they went and got an enemy yeah yeah because you know what the niners i mean that's a thing in the nifl that happens like you say every year the the the rosser jim burt jim burt jim burt Jim Burke. But I remember, for me, the one that sticks out to me is Ken Norton Jr. Yeah. Coming from the Cowboys to the Niners and you being like, number 51, let's go.
Starting point is 01:13:57 But I used to love when he would box, remember he would box? Yeah. Didn't he box a thing? Yeah. And Hanks back in the day. Dude, with the neck? Yeah, but you know. You wear 36 at safety, which our rookies doing this year.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Merton Hanks came and talked to us in high school. Loved Merton Hanks. But he was the guy that was the arbitrator for when you got fined. Really? So anytime you got fine with the league, you have to talk to Merton Hanks. No way. With your agent to see what happened and see. No way.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Yeah. He has to give you the bad news. Every time, I'd always butter him up. Like, bro, you came and spoke to my high school and I'd be getting like a $20,000 fine for headbutton someone or something. And I'm like, hey, yeah, my head was a little weird. Like, nah, we got to give you this. That's so, but that's so funny to have like a random niner be like, you know who fucking gave me a parking ticket, Tim McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Exactly. You're like, that's crazy. My fucking skin was showing. I got $7,500. Talked to Merton again. Nah, I got it. That's so funny. He's like, he drops, he drops a fine on you. Yeah, he's doing the chicken, he's doing the chicken man dance. Fool. Dude, that's so far. I had no idea he was the one that was giving out fines. Arbitrator. What do they call that? Is that what they call him?
Starting point is 01:15:13 Yeah, and then they're like, like, Jordy Nelson now is like a fines officer. Yeah, the fines officer. But he represents NFLPA, whereas he represents the league. Yeah, he's on your side. Yeah, never mind. He's the other way around. You go, I remember that was the, that had three letters after it, NFL. That way.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Jackie, let's break down these teams. All right. When we get into the Broncos here real quick? These guys went 11 and 5. Ninth year of the Dan Reeves era. Had some great coordinators, Changely lead in the offense. Wade Phillips, D.C. Wade had already been coaching 20-something years at this point.
Starting point is 01:15:42 We played a Super Bowl. Incredible. He's prepping for Montana. He's prepping for Brady. He's coaching. to keep to leave. What a career. My God. Mike Shanahan was QB coach this year. We all remember him later in the Broncos. This was also the seventh year of Elway. He'd lost two Super Bowls by this point. And this was a great defensive team as well. Gave up a league low 228 points on the season.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Three Hall of Famers on this roster, John Elway. Steve Atwater, rookie defensive player of the year this year as well. Atwater was a fucking lost. I'm going to tell you right. I'm going to tell you right now. This defensive backfield is what I remember the most about this team because it was Dennis Smith, who was a hammer, that guy would come in like a, and then you had Atwater, Atwater's, I would say, he's like your fucking T2. Atwater's, I would say, he's like right behind me, goes Ronnie Lott, Steve Outwater. I agree. Because he would, I mean, the Acoye hit, but all these things like, I watched Atwater. I remember Atwater in, I think it was the Green Bay Super Bowl that the Broncos won, came across the middle and knocked out his own
Starting point is 01:16:41 teammate. Oh yeah. He came and hit him and you were like, well, Atwater hitting anybody, you'd go like, oh. Yeah. You would always, when I was a kid, and you were playing the best Pop Warner teams, their safeties would have 42 and 27. Yeah, that's exactly. You know what I mean? It really is.
Starting point is 01:16:58 It really did. Also, the nastiest player would be 21. Yeah, always the nastiest player. The most athletic kid. It was like the kid on the basketball team that wore 23. Yeah. Was like, okay, well, you have to be good to wear that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Like 21 was always the kid on the team where you're like, Swaggy is. Kid is going to be nasty. Exactly. This was also. The Broncos on offense had, I just know this from all my friend's rooms, the three amigos, which was Vance Johnson, Ricky Neteel, and Steve, I forget who the third one was, but they would do, there was a poster that everybody in Denver had, and it was the three
Starting point is 01:17:36 amigos, and it was the Broncos receivers, and they would have sombreros on. I guarantee you Google you find this poster. Everybody had it in their basement in Denver. You'd walk downstairs, you'd like, oh, three amigos. But they were like huge in Denver. And Elway was God. I mean Elway. John Elway.
Starting point is 01:17:54 There's a reason that he had an entire strip of auto dealerships in Colorado. You go down a rap, ho road. It's like John Elway, Toyeta, John Oway, Neeson, John Elway, John Elway, there it is. Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson. Rick and Atele.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Ricketya Teal. The three amigos, dude. It's kind of so, that's a tight photo. Yeah. Dude, you should see the poster. I'm not going to lie. Poster was kind of sick. It was them and just like their pads, no jersey, shirtless with the sombrero.
Starting point is 01:18:22 What was your Niner poster? I had a Jerry Rice poster. Yeah. And I had, um, I had those banners. I had like a ton of like 49er banners. Yeah, with the, the penance. Yeah. And then I had the giant 49er football helmet from the Super Bowl that my dad dropped off.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Wow. That was above my bet. That was we had, I had, so I had, um, so I had my my closet I shared a room with my brother we had bunk beds and above the closet there's that little ceiling space sure yeah that little yeah strip and so we had there we had like a painting thing it was like an illustration of each play of the drive sick and then you know what the final one with the final john taylor with the catch yeah it was like the coolest thing ever oh my god you get you get dwight clark at the very end that i mean that is like any 49er fan that's like a piece of
Starting point is 01:19:15 art where you go. That was that. The catch over it over the Cowboys? No, it was, it was the drive. The drive against the Bengals. Yeah. When John Taylor scored.
Starting point is 01:19:24 82. You had like Jerry Rice. Why doesn't he get more? Why doesn't John Taylor get more? Dude, he was a beast in this because you had the best receiver all time. Yeah. But I always remember being like, John Taylor made some big freaking play. He was always the guy.
Starting point is 01:19:36 By the way, when they would double, when they would double Jerry, you'd go to John Taylor or Brent Jones. 1,000 percent. But this Bronco team was, was fun because, uh, there it is. There it is. there it is that's the one that was in i swear to god every one of my friends basements they had that i'm pretty sure macdainiel had that poster at his house when i met him like everybody every bronco fan was how old are you when you met him 12 he moved he moved from greeley to aurora uh 7th grade and i met him to my friend jason what's that he knew he was going to be a coach dude i knew he was
Starting point is 01:20:08 going to do something because he was obsessed with football in a way that i was obsessed with comedy like I would like nerd out in ways that people would be like I'm that's past my interest level and McDaniel would do that with football and I love football and I go that's too rich for my blood like you're like you're in I'm talking about media guides yeah like straight up read the media guides he would keep um he had a magnet in his room with the divisions and he would keep it updated so you'd walk in his room and know who's at the top of the NFC west or the AFC east wow you just like walking and be like oh shit and he was like he was very like love was good of football he was an undersized receiver but could catch was like great route runner was like super committed to playing
Starting point is 01:20:53 football and then i sucked i was just funny yeah so i was just like yeah all right whatever i like liked to playing football but i was like i could hit but outside of that i was like i'm pretty useless yeah but i was i was a glue guy i was like very funny i was the special teams i was the definition of a special team, sir. I was like, I would go wedge bust and then I'd just be cracking shit on the sideline and then come in for like a blitz play and they'd be like, all right, cool. Yeah. I lettered, but I knew I sucked. That was like the best part was being like, I'm just having fun. And I think that made the people that were good to have more fun. You were, you were definitely a dude's dude. Yeah, I was just like, I didn't get, I would like,
Starting point is 01:21:32 we'd go to football camp and I'd prank phone call. Yeah. I was a substance kid, dude. The second I started drinking, I was like, you guys have fun of football. I'm so good. getting fucked up you know what I mean you're like guys this is fun we've had a blast I'm gonna go get fucked up let's go get turns out I love ripping sigs and talking shit so I'm gonna see you guys but McDaniel was always very committed to football he was like good at it and then he went and played at Yale yeah yeah and then uh when he said he was gonna coach it was like when I told people I was gonna do stand-up where everyone was like yeah we event we we saw this so he was like I must He did this like program with UCLA and like kind of like learned out it and then was an intern with the Broncos.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Yeah. Mike Shanahan had him intern with the Broncos. That's why his run game so good. And then he will do. He was obsessed with um, Alex Gibbs, the O line coach from that Shanahan era because he implemented like zone blocking that downhill toss. Yeah. They used to run with TD back in like 98, 97 where they just get Howard Griffin. Call it a tag.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Yeah. You lay the guy down. But because I used to hear all, you hear all the stories from the Niners perspective. Yeah. And I used to live those. And then when I played in New England, I used to bust Belichick's balls. Oh, about the Giants? About the Giants.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Yeah. Because he essentially invented the nickel defense for the Niners. Really? Yeah. He's the first guy to take out a linebacker bringing in the third corner. Parcell's looking, I'm like, what the fuck are you doing, Belichick? What are we get? And that's what the nickel was because of playing the Niners.
Starting point is 01:23:06 But he used to show the old film because of that same play you said, the downhill toss tag. Tackling guard where they pull and you have the guy knock them down and they still run it to this day with Christian. Everybody, like it's a... And Bill would show us the footage
Starting point is 01:23:20 of like Lawrence Taylor, this is how you do it. You have to blow up the blocker and fucking... Oh my God, you're coming in like a missile. A missile. Because I remember specifically about the downhill toss make the annual's favorite part was Howard Griffin, the fullback for Thorell Davis,
Starting point is 01:23:35 leading that thing. And that's why when Kyle Shanahan took over the Niners, McDaniel was adamant about getting Use Check. Yeah. He was like, no, you need a fullback. And Use Check was with Baltimore. And McDaniel was like, I want Kyle used check. And I mean, the guy's been, I would put him as an all-time 49er in the likes of like.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Well, I tell you right now. He's, him and Rathman share 44 in my mind. Getting over to the Niners roster, he's just like Tom Rathman with the versatility. I mean, I think did Tom Rathman have over a hundred catches this year or something? It's 73 catches a fullback. He's unbelievable. In freaking 1990. That's huge.
Starting point is 01:24:11 That's like 100 catches now. Yeah, 73 for a fullback. And that's what you see with Ushcheck. You see the versatility where they could put a huge personnel group, but you could still spread the defense out wide because they have versatile players where they can run these four verticals or these crazy screens where you're getting big guys spread out in space. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:30 And that's the matchup everyone wants. Yeah. That's what the 49ers try to do. That's what your boy McDaniels does. I mean, McDaniel does it still, you know, when you see it run where you go like, oh, and it's fun watching them like, you know, kind of, it's almost like songwriting in a little bit where you see little fingerprints of their plays and you go, I love, I love that you took this and kind of mixed, because he's always about that. he's a great innovator yeah even when when he was in san francisco and kyle would just let him cook and he'd be like i want to do this i got he would like tell me about you know because we would talk like personally he'd be like oh with this play we're gonna play these guys i think i'll kind of want to do
Starting point is 01:25:04 this to him yeah i'm like you're a fucking mad scientist no i mean but he loved cooking but what makes him a great coach is what you earlier earlier said in everything is that his favorite guy was the offensive line coach good offensive coordinators yeah half like everyone could be a fucking play caller everyone could be like a guy that oh we know how to do the concepts this that but it's the guys that know how to teach the blocking to get the concepts going which is what makes a good offensive coordinator you got to have the offense coordinator you can sit with the line well that's what he did in Washington you know when Kyle brought him into Washington he was like McDaniel just went and sat with the O line yeah and just learned everything exactly and just built up from there because it is it's like a good
Starting point is 01:25:43 it's like I would imagine if you're a good race car driver you know how to fix your engine not not all of them that's what I mean Cole trickle didn't cold trickle had no idea Still wanted those. He dropped that goddamn hammer. Hey, he's going outside. He's going outside. Give me a squirt jacket.
Starting point is 01:25:57 I'll run through a wall. Cole or he, he, he, he, he, me mellow yellow. Melo yellow. I'll give me a mellow yellow jacket,
Starting point is 01:26:03 dude. It's time we start rocking those again. We got it. 20, got to come back. Let's, let's start fucking rockin. It's kind of like these old Niners gear hat.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Dude, like the old parkas. Oh my God. I love it. I bought a, I bought a starter, a 93 pullover. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:17 On eBay for like 200 bucks like 10 years ago. I got to get a, dry clean still it's it's ratty but i'm like dude when i bust this thing out you could probably flip that for some cash i don't know i'm holding on to it because you see that old logo you see it it just like the way i mean this team right here was like jacky break down this team just hits different oh my god 14 and two the defending champs best record in the NFL best team like unbelievable only two losses all season coming by a combined five points unbelievable first year the george seaford era we we got a shout about Bill Walsh, been with him since 79, pioneered that West Coast offense, drafted Jerry
Starting point is 01:26:55 and Joe, built the dynasty, won three Super Bowls. We've got to talk about Joe this season, unbelievable MVP year, 112.4 QBR record at the time. Resley Wall's rookie year, this is also a roster that featured four Hall of Famers, Joe, Jerry, Charles Haley, Ronnie Lott, and Steve Young. We also got to mention John Taylor, put some shine on him. He and Jerry were just an unbelievable duo this year. Brent Jones. The quick slant man. I mean, Brent Jones, 84. He was, he had a cult following.
Starting point is 01:27:26 My favorite tight end. Yeah, he had a cult following when I was a kid. Like, we all love Brent Jones. Because the way he looked cool as shit, the way he would catch. He was like a receiver as a tight end, but it was like similar to like Shannon Sharp. Where you start being it where like they're less, I think like back in the day they were more like, oh, linemen. Yeah. That occasionally would go out for a pass.
Starting point is 01:27:46 But this was like, oh, we had a receiver that would be on the line and Blockdown. Exactly. Loved Brent Jones. Also loved him and Tom Rathman were two of the best at making a play and getting grass stuck in your helmet. 1,000% and then just getting right back on the line. And pulling it out.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Oh, Rathman's got some epic ones where he just was like. Didn't Rathman wear the bullring? Yeah. Well, he had the bar down the middle. He had the bar down the middle. He had the bar down the middle, which was by the way. Which is almost grittier. With the neck roll under the jersey, we're getting an all-stop territory of it being
Starting point is 01:28:18 pure badass. Oh, yeah. When I see a truck, a raised truck on tires, the human version of that is Mike Allstott. Of like, you got the neck roll under the jersey. You got the, the Derek Thomas face mask. See, I, I think of it. See, I don't think of it as a truck. I think of it as like one of those old like blazers lifted.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Yeah. I know what you mean. You know what I mean? It's not. No, like the old blitz. Oh, like the big heavy boxed. Yeah, the box. It was not.
Starting point is 01:28:48 It wasn't the Bronco. It wasn't the Bronco. It was the Chevy version, the old Blazer. Yeah. Because, you know, it's kind of like, it's not like full linemen, which is a full pickup. But you could use. You can get in the mud. It's utility.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Yeah, you need to get off road. You got that. You're fine. Without a doubt. That's also built for city driving. It's built for city driving if you want. Mike Allstadt, built for city driving. But can get his ass money.
Starting point is 01:29:09 I guess you are going between the tackles. He'll get money. Bro, back to Dan's earlier point, though. One of the many reasons to hate dirt. No, like the older ones. Now you just get an eye full and fucking. pellets bro yeah sucks with the what like like turf so we all talk about on here how much we hate turf yeah astro turf that is now you don't get the you don't get the clump in the helmet
Starting point is 01:29:29 yeah like those little tire pellets in your eye dude that's mike allstock hell yeah that's a hundred percent mike allstadt and tom rathman next time i buy a car this one was say i want a tom rathman or a mike all start to go excuse me or you wouldn't get it yeah yeah i go you don't know ball i'll take the vintage you probably saying that on the floor on a darting dealership they're like you know what are you talking about we can get you to tom rathman today we can get you to we can get you to lovely how do you sum up this team unstoppable unstoppable unstoppable unstoppable unstoppable unstoppable this was a team where like you have like an all right so the next season after this 1990 season that's obviously the new york giants with bellichick
Starting point is 01:30:08 and parcels but at this point you don't really feel like anyone can touch us the cowboys are god awful. They're rebuilding at this point. The Giants aren't around really and the Niners are just like who in the NFC is fucking with us. No one in the NFC, the Rams with with Everett. Yeah, don't call me Chris Everett. Yeah, don't call me Chris Everett. Jim, don't call me Chris Everett. Chris. The ghost sack. Yeah. Like my, so my boy, I, I lived with Matthew Slater. Shout out. And his dad was Jackie Slater. yeah and like he i always used to kill him about the ghost tuck yeah because his dad was the guy running the guy past him that's what you're supposed to do as a tackle you got to run the lineman past the spot sure and the and the quarterback's got to step up that's why yeah yeah and it's just
Starting point is 01:31:02 he gets what do you get mad would you ever he gets so amazing that's a fucking go out of the ghost why we bring it up old shit you always fucking do this because i used to say we used to as a Niner fan. We used to circle the Rams as a guaranteed win. Oh, my God, dude, they would come show up with their fucking dumb yellow and blue. And I know they tried going back to it when they moved back to L.A. But it was like, I don't care if you got Flipper Jones. I don't give a fuck who you got. The Niners are going to fuck your shit up. That's what I mean. This is the height of no one's fucking with us. We've yet to run into the Cowboys in a way that's going to be a problem.
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Starting point is 01:33:21 What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game from scouting reports and player development to team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week, we study the tape, talk to decision makers, and share the insights you won't, find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a diehard
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Starting point is 01:34:32 We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts Pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that?
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Starting point is 01:36:12 Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football Podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. No one's touching us. Mount Rushmore Niners. For me, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Ronnie Lott. The goat. I mean, Jerry Rice. Yeah. So Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Ronnie Lott.
Starting point is 01:36:36 That's my four. But that's, I mean, but I, here's the problem with the Niners thing. What's yours? Yeah, what's your, Mount Rushmore? I've never asked that. Mine's probably Joe. Yeah. Jare.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Yeah. Ronnie. Yeah. Who's that fourth spot? Because that's where it gets tricky because God, I love Steve Young, but. I might have to go, hey, uh, Charles. Haley? Haley.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Gone and then comes back. He, I mean, he won. three Super Bowls with us, didn't he? Yeah. And he was a problem. Two. Yeah, Charles Haley was my brother got mad when we got rid of him. Yeah, absolutely. He was a bad, bad motherfucker. When he was on the Cowboys, that defense they had with Ken Norton Jr. and Charles Haley. I loved Ken Norton. Five, three, okay. But I wouldn't put him on the, he's not on the, he not on the. I would almost, here's a crazy thing. I love Steve Young. Bill Walsh. Yeah, Bill Walsh. Brandon Lloyd. I would say, but if you got to, you got to have one defensive guy in there. I'd
Starting point is 01:37:38 put Deon there, but he was only there for one. And then he went to the Cowboys. And also, we played Atlanta. We played Atlanta so much when Dion was truly Deion. Yeah. I, this is going to, I would say, I'm taking Steve Young off. Patrick Willis. Ooh, I like that.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Patrick Willis is to me as important as anybody in the four-niners franchise because he was there, we drafted him when we sucked with Mike Nolan. Shout out my future father-in-law with the same name. And then we got good with Harbaugh, and you had that explosive, dude, that fucking defense, Super Bowl 47 defense with Navarro Bowman and fucking Patrick Willis, that whole squad, Justin Smith. Fred Warner could be. Fred Warner might be on there. Here's the thing. I could see a world in which I put George Kittle in my Mount Rushmore because I am a huge kiddle fan.
Starting point is 01:38:31 I'm a huge kiddle fan too. And I also see a world in where, like, here's the thing. Fred Warner is a guy where I let's do it. The thing is you can't put them on you got to have you got to have the hard work. That's what I mean. And Patrick is tough with Willis, but he got us. He got us out of shit. Out of shit and to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:38:51 And it's an argument that it was just play calling is the reason we didn't beat the Ravens. Because you got Frank fucking Gore and you got four chances at the end zone and you're going to throw four fade routes to Crabtree in the back corner. I'm sorry, but it's like Frank Gore. Orr might be a guy that I put on Mount Rushmore. Love Frank. How do you not put Frank Gore? That guy was, that's a, that's a definitive 49er.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Is he more than a, because he played with a lot of teams. But did he though? But was he really? Yeah, he had a run with the bills when we used to play him a ball. Oh yeah, I remember that. He played like eight years with them. Damn, he was. He just played a long time.
Starting point is 01:39:28 I don't know, man. Because there's guys that in the modern era where I'm like, I loved them so much. I don't think, because we didn't win a Super Bowl, they'll never get to that Mount Mount. Rushmore you can't go to Mount Rushmore but Patrick Willis to me I would take Steve Young off they've done they've done linebacker right since Patrick Willis I mean Fred Warner is I mean Greenlaw Greenlaw the new win the winners and it's just like they have they know how to do linebacker which is which is very fun because I always loved the 49ers linebackers
Starting point is 01:39:55 Bill Romanowski Lee Woodall you had Ken Martin Jr. I remember I remember watching Romo spit in JJ Stokes yeah when he was on the Broncos yes 1997 I was, which crazy about that is, that's, again, a tough game for me. Because what you're watching right there is you're watching the Broncos start to ascend with former offensive coordinator Mike Shanahan of the Niners, taking over the Broncos. So then it becomes the Broncos, at this point in my life, I'm going like, well, I can cheer for him because they have a bunch of 49ers, Ed McCaffrey. Christian's dad was a 49er, was a giant 49er, then a Bronco.
Starting point is 01:40:31 And, I mean, became. Just cut the shoes out of his shoes. Yeah. And wouldn't wear pads in his legs. Eddieos? I think I still have a box of his cereal somewhere. Does he have some edios? Dude, when they won the Super Bowl in 97, they sold edios.
Starting point is 01:40:44 He's an all-time neck guy. Yeah. Oh. He had the... His son in Carolina looks like him. Oh, yeah. And then the other one looks like the mom. Christian is clearly like from the sprinting family.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Yeah. Because the grandpa is like a fucking world-class... They're like crazy athletic. Yeah. Oh. And so, I mean, Christian might be a guy that ends up being on the 49- Mount Rushmore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Even though he spent the time in Carolina, you're like, dude, I don't know, man. Use check. But I would say my four. So yours are Walsh, Montana, Lott, Jerry. Yeah. Mine are Joe, Jerry, Ronnie, and Frank,
Starting point is 01:41:21 and Patrick Willis. Patrick, I like it. Both is one of those teams where it's just like Mount Rushmore. It's like saying Mount Rushmore of USC guys. Yeah, you'd have to go top 10 with Niners. Drop, let's see what this game's about. Both good Mount Rushmore's, though.
Starting point is 01:41:35 getting this lead up here real quick let's hit this thing we're looking to go back to back of course we talked about that with the Niners Denver on the other hand lost two Super Bowls already leading up to this so they're kind of looking to get the monkey
Starting point is 01:41:48 off the back so to speak that way it's 0 for 2 in Super Bowls as a franchise 0 for 3 Giants and the Redskins were the two they lost both kind of butt whoopens so they're looking to get back in there and on the path playoff wise
Starting point is 01:42:02 both number one seeds Denver eeked by Pittsburgh A classic Elway Bubby Brister matchup Yes The real heads remember Dude Bobby Brister ends up becoming The backup for John
Starting point is 01:42:15 Incredible Insane That's nuts Took him down in the divisional round Went into Cleveland Beat Cleveland in the Or no Cleveland came there Beat him by two scores
Starting point is 01:42:24 Then meanwhile San Francisco Just cake like Made it look easy This is what I mean It looked easy This is what I mean By this is the last of us being Just there's no one even in our league
Starting point is 01:42:35 You got the Rams beating the Giants We weren't worried about the Rams Look at that, 30 to 3 And Minnesota was like Let's get our backup some time Minnesota has always been Kind of good that year Well they've always
Starting point is 01:42:47 They've always been there And then you have the most heartbreaking Which is the 98 NFC championship game The craziest I was at that AFC championship game It was because my uncle It was Jets at Broncos My uncle's wife didn't want to go
Starting point is 01:43:04 And I was like, dude, I'll absolutely go to Broncos Jets. I'll absolutely go to an AFC championship game, 100%. So I went with them, and that was the second game. And everybody at Mile High Stadium was watching the Vikings Falcons. And when the Vikings missed that field goal, Mile High Stadium went nuts. Because they were like, oh, Broncos went. I think the feeling was like, we'll beat the dirty birds, no problem. Scott Chandler was his name?
Starting point is 01:43:33 Yeah, it was Chris Chandler? Chris Chandler, Jamal Anderson. Anderson, the Dirty Bird. Yeah. And who was their tiny white receiver? Oh, they had, they weren't, no, they didn't. No, they had, um, that 98 Atlanta team was fun. They had a, I mean, they beat the Niners, which Tim Dwight.
Starting point is 01:43:50 I think it might have been. It was Tim Dwight. Yeah, Tim Dwight. It was Tim Dwight. Yeah, dude. And that was, but, um, but this was like, this 49ers team, no one's fucking with them. Yeah, it was Tim Good one. Look at Montana stats.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Insane. 22 and 22 and 22. 29, five TDs. Oh, my God. Unbelievable. But that's what the West Coast looks like now when the quarterback does well. Under 30 attempts. Very high efficiency.
Starting point is 01:44:16 Probably has a good running. They had 20 carries for 69 yards. So they probably called the playwright. I mean, it's just I watch these Niners teams and I see all these West Coast coaches nowadays running the same goddamn shit. Yeah, McDaniel throws a little, or McDaniel throws a little bubble or a little wrinkle in with all his new screen and motion shit and that's where they get different. But it's the same plays. It's funny. It's crazy. And it's the same way they want to win. They want to play from ahead. You want to eat the clock. They want to not throw over 35 times. But establish the run, then throw it over their heads when they bring it in, eight in the box. And you watch it. It's so crazy to know that we were little kids watching basically the modern NFL be born. With Bill Walsh going like, well, why can't my fullback catch a bunch out of the backfield. Why isn't a checkdown not only
Starting point is 01:45:07 to a receiver doing a ten and out, but maybe someone in the flats, just dumping little dump passes. Everyone goes deep, you just hit them, catch and run. Oh, dude, it's great. That's what this, this was predicated off catch and run. So much, yeah. I watched this America's game on this team, and they talked about the slant route for like three minutes
Starting point is 01:45:23 of a 45 minute thing. Yeah. It's because you had John Taylor, Jerry Rice, hit these little shallow cross slants and just outrun everyone. Bye. Never getting caught from behind. And by the way, this was This was one of those ones where when you watch the highlights, most of the highlights are Jerry running away from science. It's just like, oh, he got to catch.
Starting point is 01:45:40 And it's that him running and like looking with the open arms when you're like, oh, this was, what I mean by watching this, I think my mom's Super Bowl party was over by halftime. Oh, yeah, 273.5. 26, yeah, 273 a half. Everyone was like, all right, I think, you know, we're going to beat the traffic. That's what they said against the Patriots, too.
Starting point is 01:45:59 28 to 3, though. You know what I said? Nobody in that locker room saying got to believe. leave you know what I said that you guys made me eat my words I go oh McDaniel's going to get a Super Bowl ring because he was on that Atlanta oh yeah he was and I went oh Mike's going to get a Super Bowl ring and then I went Katie was at Fox Sports yeah and she did a halftime hit and they were like you guys were you guys were down and they were like hey we can get you into the game and she was like such a Patriots fan and she's like yeah
Starting point is 01:46:29 I'll go watch and then she was like oh wow wow it's watch the greatest come back of all time. I mean, that is the greatest comeback of all time. Yeah. It's just like a thing where you're watching it,
Starting point is 01:46:39 it's, I'm still in disbelief that you guys came back. I get in disbelief when I watch it. I mean, but when I played it, it wasn't. But when I watched it.
Starting point is 01:46:47 You guys were just like marching forward every play. We just didn't, we were making mistakes in the first half. It wasn't like we weren't driving the ball. Sure.
Starting point is 01:46:55 And we drove the ball in the red area three times or twice and threw pick six and fumbled. Dude. You know, like we were giving them stuff and,
Starting point is 01:47:02 the season after when McDaniel's in San Francisco and we're in San Jose at his apartment you know like the apartment he's renting when they first got there and we're just eating pizza
Starting point is 01:47:14 and then we're chilling and I always ask McDaniel about like guys he coaches like who do you think who's the biggest and he's like he's telling me about Julio Jones he's like this dude
Starting point is 01:47:23 you have no idea he's like he could just stop on a dime he's like he's got the most athletic and then we're just like there's like a pause in the conversation and he goes
Starting point is 01:47:29 you want to see the losers ring You know, yeah, and he showed me the Falcons, NFC, Jr, Jr., yeah. But just like the way he went, you want to see the losers, man. Like, I never waited to see it. I was like, he's got some comedic deliveries.
Starting point is 01:47:42 He's funny, dude, he's always been very funny. He is. People are looking a little stressed out lately, but he's... I mean, I want the boy to sleep. Yeah, he was watching that game against the bills. I'm like, I wanted to go, guys, give him an hour to nap. Nuts. Let my man eat and take a nap.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Kind of like when you watched Obama in his first year. Oh, the gray hair? And then you see him out at it at the end, how fucking the presidency age is. the shit out of you we went NFL coaching age the fuck out of you dude it's crazy we went um for a wedding down in florida and we went a little early to hang out with mike and his wife and his daughter and we were hanging out and katy's only seen mike during the football season yeah that's it for our friendship we go to dolphins game and she hates going she has to wear like neutral because she's a pats fan
Starting point is 01:48:21 she's like i ain't fucking putting on dolphin shit and then we go down there but like we talked to mike after the game and hang out but he's so zapped that when we went down the off season she was like man that was fun hanging out with him yeah she's like i never got to hang out with him i'm like yeah he's the best and she's like damn dude coaching just stresses the fuck out of people it does but you know what i mean like when we're talking about this dude first off on the call pat summer all and john madden doesn't get much better than that that doesn't this is this is when they're cbs this is before fox yeah this was fox came in 94 was this NBC or cbs yes this was cbs yeah dude that like the classic summer roll 45 to the 40 to the 35 the way you'd count
Starting point is 01:49:02 it down. Yeah. I think of, when I think of Pat Summerall and John Madden, I think of specifically 49ers Cowboys. I think of that.
Starting point is 01:49:10 I mean, we, growing up as a Niners fan, you watched Fox all the time because NFC was always on Fox. So I just always. CBS had AFC. I heard John Madden drawing the guy
Starting point is 01:49:20 who we look right here. There's a guy coming off his helmet. And the heat's got to get off. Here's a guy. He would always say, here's a guy. And you're like, oh,
Starting point is 01:49:29 he's the best, dude. He was the best. What about Dan, or even's in a fucking suit for this kid. Dude, Dan Reeves. Like Mike Nolan. Yeah, Mike Nolan.
Starting point is 01:49:36 The Niners used to rock the suit. But I'm sorry, you wear a suit to get your ass kicked. That sucks. Dan Reeves. By the way, not really if you think of it. The logic behind it, because then you don't even have to shower when you leave. True.
Starting point is 01:49:47 You just look good. You just, all right, well, I'm, you don't want to change it. But on the wrong side of that, you go. Yeah. Also, I will, maybe I'm, I'm arguing against myself here, but having a suit when you start getting blown out, you can do that. It is a good visual. You get to go like, shh.
Starting point is 01:50:01 It's a visual. Yeah, he's like, I'm telling you. Hey, you know who's not giving me any respect right now? It was Bill Walsh. I'm telling you. We can't even lock down John Taylor. I think we got Jerry Rice covered. Then you got to worry about Brent Jones.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Roddy Dangerfield coaching the Broncos. John Elway, you know, the guy wants to save the game. What is he? 10 to 26. I'm telling you, I get no respect. We got Bobby Humphrey. I don't know if he's running from the 49th's defense or the police for a D-Y. Look it up.
Starting point is 01:50:32 I'm not wrong. Hey, Bobby Humphrey, number 26. I traded for a starting lineup. This was one of the biggest regrets I ever have in my childhood. Someone talked me into trading a Bernie Cozhar for a Joe Montana starting lineup and a Bobby Humphrey for like a Herschel Walker. What was that a card? No, remember the starting lineups, the little figures.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to call them toy or whatever. Yeah, but they're just toys, toy. Yeah, they're like the little toys, little starting. And then you lose the helmet immediately. Yeah. Oh, dude, I was... Joe Montana went over here.
Starting point is 01:51:06 I loved starting lineups, but I got... Older kid fleeced me into it. Jesus. He's like, dude, I'll give you Bernie Covember, Bobby Humphrey, and Howie Long for, like, Joe Montana. And I traded it. And I was like... Wait a minute. I just gave away my Joe Montana.
Starting point is 01:51:20 I just got fleeced. It's kind of like you're... It's kind of like when you're fantasy football and you're drafting up a trade to your boys. Yeah. And you're like, oh, I really want this player. So I'll give him this, this, this is, then you got to press, look at the trade. And you're... You're like, what the fuck was I thinking?
Starting point is 01:51:34 What am I drunk? What did you do to me? That was you last week trying to get me. What are you talking about? I'm, I had that one. The one I gave up was the one in him and the red jersey was the one I traded. But I got that one for a birthday gift and I never gave that one up. Shout out, dude, starting lineups.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Man, just the best. Break down this game. Bring them back, baby. Bring them back. All right, we talked about this a little bit earlier. These Niners got to start fast. Got to start from ahead. get out there with an eight play drive
Starting point is 01:52:02 that ends in kind of what is the moment in this game that's singed into my head Jerry on that 20 yard TD bouncing off at water because he goes these safeties when they were scouting them they don't like to wrap up they don't like to wrap up they don't wrap up
Starting point is 01:52:16 and case and point right there and then Jerry's running into the end zone arms up and we know this thing's about to be over baby this thing getting started fast and ending fast that's the shot that you think about is the arms up on that TD and you go like we're about to rip these motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:52:31 And this was also in the era when Elway, he was a little shiftier, baby. He could move outside the packet. Yeah. So it was big, keeping him in the pocket and contained, did that very well early on. He was a guy that was,
Starting point is 01:52:42 Tom Brady reminded me of that when he first started where he'd go, no one talks about Tom Brady running, but he picks up first downs in the way that Elway would pick up first downs. Where he'd just go, I just need six, I'll run for seven.
Starting point is 01:52:52 And then I'm out. And you're not going to hit me. He wasn't like Bledsoe who's like, hit me. I dare you. Brady was like, I'm out. And Elway was good at that.
Starting point is 01:53:00 until the helicopter but that was just I'm not losing again yeah that's older Elway that's older oh but this Elway you're right was yeah he was a little he'd pull the ball and run yeah that was that was a big part of the game plan
Starting point is 01:53:14 they said keeping him in the pocket and contained Elway comes back with a nice little 10 play drive maybe this thing you get a little life 7 3 Montana to Brent Jones 13 3 then we move into the second Brent Jones oh my God Brent Jones Rathman and Rice
Starting point is 01:53:29 tack on T-Ds in the second, 27 to 3 at the halftime. I mean, we got the route going, baby. Was that the halftime show? It was terrible. No, it was a tribute to something. Look it up. Pete Fountain, Doug Kershaw, and Irma Thomas. But what were they doing?
Starting point is 01:53:46 It was like, they were doing like an ode to something. It was something like so corny that you'd be like, we would never allow that at a Super Bowl now. Not showing any titty. I forget what it was, but it was very funny. Yeah, dude, halftime shows back then were like, can you play the flute? Oh,
Starting point is 01:54:03 God, it was a salute to New Orleans in the 40th anniversary of the comic strip peanuts. Peanuts. They were doing a peanuts thing. So they were going, and they were playing like,
Starting point is 01:54:14 dude, they had Elway and all them dancing out there like the Peanuts kids. Oh my God. Aaron Neville with the night. Charlie Brown's big Super Bowl. That's crazy, bro. That is insane.
Starting point is 01:54:27 And then, oh, give a little love. here. The coin toss was tight. Uncle Terry was out there. Art Shell, Willie Wood, Mel Blunt. We had some star power out for the starting lineup. And Terry, speaking of Uncle Terry, was quite prophetic on this one. He said, if they're not careful, it could be 55 to 3 at the half. Really? That's what Terry said. He's on record of saying that. Not quite right, but final score. Dude, God knew it. Terry knows ball, dude.
Starting point is 01:54:52 I mean, this Niners team was just loaded. This is a blowout. This is a blowout. When did you know at six years old this game was over? Oh, man, probably when my mom was having more Manhattans than normal. I think by halftime, I was kind of like, I understood when, probably by like the end of the third quarter that I finally recognize as a six-year-old child that cheering is mean. Yeah. It was like, it was like, it was like, stop. They're already dead. And I was like, suck it.
Starting point is 01:55:20 And I remember them not even like at first, you know, we're talking 13 to 3. They're like, get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of it. Kid. Go Broncos. Hey, shut up. kid and then by the third quarter they're like trash your son's doing it again you know what was
Starting point is 01:55:35 49ers monday going to school what was that like for you it was the best it was dude put me in you might as well have put me in a red wings jersey like two pox because i was spitting it kids i was like what's up dude going to going to school in a 49er shirt ready for a fight did you i've got yeah dude i would love to rub in the face when the 49ers would win oh my especially Everybody in school. I mean, that was the king, though. You guys beat them in the Super Bowl. I remember two kids specifically that I grew up with
Starting point is 01:56:04 thinking that John Elway was better than Joe Montana, and I remember just john at them for a while. What was your argument? Just super bowls, 5510. That was what you would say to him, 5510. Chips were down. What happened? John Elway versus Joe Montana, 55.
Starting point is 01:56:21 50 times. It's the score that's in my head because I talk so much shit with it that I will never forget this Super Bowl. at 24 score because of walking around going 55 10 at daycare 55 15 I don't start using that 5 5 10 5 10 5 5 10 what are you're not even people are going home in the third quarter this isn't an argument of Joe Montana has a quicker release point he's got more accuracy 55 10 55 5 5 Joe Montana put it on you with five touchdowns also isn't this like one of the only Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:56:56 MVP's that Joe got like out of the four he got I thought Jerry got one one did he get three yeah all right I think he got three right Joe much I believe so yeah yeah he was super MVP I mean look at yeah yeah you got three yeah I mean that's tough that's that's the thing there could be the argument here speaking of stat lines here Jerry seven catches 148 yards three tuddies do you think if he gets 10
Starting point is 01:57:21 receptions they go 10 receptions and one more touchdown Do you think they go? Double-d-jit-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-member? If Montana distributes out to more than three receivers, how many touchdowns were through how many different receivers? It was five touchdowns, three went to Jerry, one went to Rathman, one went to Brent Jones. That's what.
Starting point is 01:57:43 That's why. Taylor. Yeah. No, Montana to Brent Jones extends it. So he's got one to Jones. Oh, did Rathman get the rushing touchdown? Yeah, he got a rushing touchdown. That's what it was.
Starting point is 01:57:53 So John Taylor got one. Yeah, John Taylor got one. So there's three days. different receivers that got three different types that means he's dissecting yeah he's going like oh that's fun that's how if you hit more than three receivers they'll always get to the quarterback dude i was going through his reeds so nice because you're spreading the love spreading it yeah but then if you like because jerry the one he got it he had like 200 yards or so it was insane did he's that's still a crazy that is insane 7-148 with three touchdowns what are you me playing college football 2026 it's
Starting point is 01:58:22 Jerry had 11 catches 215 yards in a touchdown in the super bowl he got to MVP and he had what insane he had 11 catches 215 yards and a touchdown that's what it is I think over 10 catches is like oh you were fucking putting it in that's like that's like that's like a running back getting over 100 I think I had 10 yeah when you got yours yeah yeah I mean too I think it was 10 no tugs though I had no tugs but that doesn't matter you got a super bowl MVP yeah but no tugs yeah there's really any tugs like this john outwee stat line 10 for 26 108 yards 2 and yeah that's all you got to say your friend 10 at 26 what do you got 55 10 10 to 26 follow the math follow the math what's
Starting point is 01:59:05 after bad to this job oh my gosh joe wins super bowl MVP this would become the biggest blowout in super bowl history 55 10 55 10 San Francisco would go on and lose in the 1990 NFC championship preventing the three Pete which by the way came down to a last second field goal just like the way the giants won the super bowl people forget that the 49ers were and they're a running the clock out and Roger Craig fumbled. Yeah, a guy who never fumbled. Never fumble. And it was like a weird fumble.
Starting point is 01:59:32 And it was one of those things where you just went, that was destiny with, with giants hitting the kick at the end and Norwood missing. I mean, it's like, all right. What'd be destiny shit? They had Bon Jovi on their side. They couldn't lose. Oh, man. This was also kind of the last hurrah for Joe in a sense, got hurt bad in that, in that
Starting point is 01:59:52 NFC title game. Back. Yeah. back spinal um so they show it in the documentary where his head goes off the astroturf at the old metal lands you're like oh my god those guys were concrete with dude yeah carpet over i feel soft when i watched them you're like oh and i played hard you played in a league where they were still there was until like targeting wasn't a thing when you were in there at first like in my like six year they started really shutting down on it yeah but you had those six years they were six
Starting point is 02:00:22 years where I got fucking decapitated Dawkins hit me really bad I got blitzed by Ed Reed a few times Who hit you the hardest That you remember There's a time Ray Lewis
Starting point is 02:00:37 We we We kind of We worked together For a while That's the funniest way Of saying you got hit It's saying we worked No and we really worked together
Starting point is 02:00:49 But it's fun also to think like You guys on the football field They're like, that's an old coworker. I'm like, he smashed me, but we worked together at the NFL. The company was the NFL. I will be filing an HR complaint. You should start referring to other NFL players as coworkers. Yeah, we're coworkers in the NFL together.
Starting point is 02:01:05 And you go, oh, and he hit. No, he hit me so hard once. Hello, de Nata. I got up and I remember in Lohie's not like, hey, your side of lines that way. Oh, fuck. It's crazy. But I don't know. I never, I think those Landry hit me really hard.
Starting point is 02:01:21 once yeah the kid from the safe remember like big ass safety from the jets yeah he knocked me out of a game once i cut back into pursuit and he caught me not seeing it and then you're like well that is control all delete you just don't remember until you get to the sideline if i were if i were i would be telling you secrets before your games i'd like don't tell anybody this and then you get hit and you go honestly i think i'm all right with that secret being it was i think julian will be all right full men and black shit yeah he got like yeah yeah but that's I mean, Montana getting hurt in that game was like, that was you're right, that was it.
Starting point is 02:01:56 That was it for him in San Francisco. That was it. Oh, man. Fucking giants. We've just talked shit about them and they fucking ended it. Yeah. We've been dumping on Elway and the Broncos here and there, 5510, 5510.
Starting point is 02:02:07 But they would go back to back Super Bowl 32 and 33. This one is for John. Run game. This one's for John. Dude, I'm going to tell you right now, Denver, I, here's a weird theory of mine. Denver wins the Super Bowl because the avalanche came to town
Starting point is 02:02:26 and won the Stanley Cup and I'm just telling you as someone that grew up in Denver that did for Denver what that did is when like oh we're not losers it like got them over the yips they were like oh yeah yeah the avalanche won the championship next year Denver wins the Super Bowl because they go why not and then they I promise you I just remember that being a big news story
Starting point is 02:02:45 of everyone going Denver finally got a championship we got the Stanley Cup the Colorado Avalanche champions and then it was kind of like well now the pressure's gone and then the broncos go and i mean those teams were so much fun shanney sharp steve atwater bill romanowski male smith alfred williams you got uh gary zimmerman at left tackle but howard griffin turrell dames you're dropping left left abk bro elite ball knowledge what's that rod smith rod smith number 80 yeah by the way i got to see against the washington redskins rod smith's first nfell touchdown was at Mile High Stadium, a regular season game against the Redskins.
Starting point is 02:03:24 John Elway let a drive with 43 seconds left in the fourth quarter and put it perfectly in the corner for Rod Smith to pull it down for his first NFL touchdown. And I'm telling you, you watch the amount of Bronco games I went to, it was impossible for me not to go like, I got a huge soft spot for him. But the nineer in me is so strong that I fought it off the whole time. To the point that my dad's, my uncle was like mad about it. He was like, why don't you a Broncos fan? because I'll never be.
Starting point is 02:03:51 Because if, because if 1990 didn't switch me, if the divorce bowl didn't pull me to the Broncos, I ain't ever coming over. Ever. Forced and fire. And now it makes it even better that I grew up. Because now I'm like,
Starting point is 02:04:07 now I live in New York City with like other 49ers fans or whatever. And it's like, I used to be ashamed that I never was, I didn't, I'm not from the bay. But I'm like, oh, that's sports are handed down.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Yeah. There's Steelers fans in Seattle. And there's like, Buccaneers fans in Minneapolis. It's just like, you grow up with what you're given, and I like, I'm so lucky to be a Niners fan. Where you were born in Connecticut has some of the weirdest lineage. Oh, because they go Giants, Jets, Pats.
Starting point is 02:04:34 They'll be like a Packers, Knicks fan. Yeah. Or, I mean, a Pats, Knicks fan, or a Red Sox Giants fan. Yankees Pats. Yeah. And you're like, that's crazy. Crazy. Red Sox Giants.
Starting point is 02:04:45 There's a weird shit in Connecticut. And, you know, that's because of what you're just saying, lineage. Before the teams even existed, they were all liking them shit. Well, you know, it's really funny about that is my dad, because this is before Sunday ticket, this is before YouTube. We're living in Hartford because of my mom's job. My dad's a Niners fan. The Niners, thank God, we're one of the best teams, so you get national games.
Starting point is 02:05:06 But he became a Pat's fan because he's watching Andre Tippett. He's watching guys like that, and he's watching him suck. But he's like, dude, first off, I'm just going to say this, the best throwback logo is Pat the Patriot. 100%. Let's go. Let's go. Dude, Katie sent me a video because she goes,
Starting point is 02:05:22 look what we're rocking this week. And I'm like, whoa. It didn't work that. We lost. I know, but it's still a fucking cool-ass logo. It is.
Starting point is 02:05:29 It hits. And the Denver D. The old school Denver D. It's a cool. Come on, it's great. With the horse coming through. I would tell you,
Starting point is 02:05:40 the only Broncos merch I would rock is old school Denver Broncos merch because it does remind me of growing up there and shit. Tasteful. Tasteful. I loved it. What streamlined the Broncos for me was Shanahan and Ed McCaffrey
Starting point is 02:05:53 and any other excuse of the 49ers coming over. Yeah. And I was like, oh, well, I was supporting these guys before. NFC, AFC, though. You could do that. You can do that. Now, if you were like a Rams fan in a Niners fan, that doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 02:06:06 I can't. I hate when people try to do that. You go cross conference, it's always all right. Oh, dude. That's my excuse for being a Niners fan. I'm like, oh, yeah, dude, I've played an NFC. But that's exactly it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:16 And that's what, dude, I remember. And this is hilarious. When McDaniel, he calls me and he goes, hey, man, I'm going to leave. I'm like, I'm going to try to go be a head coach. And I'm like, fuck you. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:28 It's time, dude. It's time. People see your weird little ass doing crazy shit. You fucking psycho. People are about to see the, you know what I mean? And then I hang up on the phone. I remember exactly where I was sitting on the couch in our condo and Hoboken and Katie's in the kitchen. And I go, McDaniel's leaving the nine.
Starting point is 02:06:48 like that she's not even she's like going through the cabinets and she goes as long as he doesn't end up in the afc east like that less than four days later he's the head coach to miami dolphins and she's like no dolphins merch in this house she's like no dolphins merch in this house we hate the dolphins but it was because they got you guys they were the one team you guys would blow out buffalo the jets you hated you'd beat the shed up but miami would like sneak punch you guys the weather man that might tell you know when you got the division wrapped up week 13 yeah and you go down to miami it's fucking 12 degrees in boston it's 83 in fucking Florida in December you're like oh dude we were going to uh it was always tough to plan
Starting point is 02:07:30 you got to understand when when a team like even when you look at who are like even with the with the bills now all these teams now in the division are designing their team to try to beat you yeah so like you look at those old dolphins teams they always had crazy packs rushers. Yeah. They always, you know, they would spend their top four picks on fucking defense alignment. What do you got to do to try to beat the Patriots? Get Tommy off the fucking spot. Dude. Get Tommy off the spot. You got to go after. And that's what, you know, the league forever was you had to go after Tom. Well, McDaniel's first job was with the Houston Texans outside of the Broncos. And he called me and my friend Chad, who we go to all his games.
Starting point is 02:08:10 We're all like close from high school. And we're like, who you draft and Reggie Bush? Who are you going to take? You're going to take Jay Cutler? And he's like, Mario Williams. And we're like, why are you guys taking Mario Williams? He's like, Kubiak said we need to go after Peyton. We're playing Peyton Manning twice a year. You got to get someone in his face. You're like, you're right.
Starting point is 02:08:26 They would design these teams. Belichick used to call him, I think, Big M. He'd always have a weird nickname for certain guys. And he's like, aren't you guys got to watch out for Big M here? There's always one or two or like whenever we play like spags, he's like, all right, you guys spat. Like it was like his way of trying to be cool. was like, that was...
Starting point is 02:08:48 He's like dropping slang. He's like... Watch out for Big M, guys. That's so funny. Oh, dude, that's really... Bill Belichick trying to use modern slang. It's just a funny thing where he's like, he's got a lot of swag. And you're like, I don't know if that works out.
Starting point is 02:09:04 He's like, no, it is. It's a mood. Like in that, like, grumble, like a little thing. He goes, it's giving off sack energy. It's giving off pass rush energy. It's just him being like, mer. Full Bill. full bill let's wrap this thing up and get it named and score it the name of the game this is something
Starting point is 02:09:22 that we came up with if you have a specific name that you want to give you could throw it in but we came up with the back to back the blowout in the big easy the niners take new orleans this one's not for john i like that one or the divorce bowl i mean i personally obviously got to go divorce bowl but i also wouldn't mind naming it the back blow out in the big easy. Yeah. Because that's what the Niners did to the Broncos is they blew their backs out. The back blowout in the big easy.
Starting point is 02:09:55 I like this. I like this. I like that. And that's just that that mixes both the shit talking I got from this game for all the Broncos fans. I like that. But I personally will always refer to this as the divorce bowl. Okay.
Starting point is 02:10:08 Then we'll go the divorce bowl. Because that was Trish and Gary legally getting the government involved to let it know that this marriage was. was not going to happen by law by law score the game is this the greatest game of all time let's score it decimals encouraged decimals encourage dan stakes zero to ten decimals encouraged the stakes of this game the stakes were a a repeat it was for john to break the i'm not a loser in the super bowl the broncos are like hey we can win a super bowl but for the niners it's back to back you love a back to back we had never had it so the stakes surprisingly i think are lower than other
Starting point is 02:10:49 games i think if you're going as far as the greatest game of all time the stakes are fairly low because it's like yeah the niners might get it but there wasn't really like bad blood there wasn't much besides i mean outside of the soda house you're going for it back to back it's big only been done once at this time okay by the stillers john illway loses a third yeah you know that Okay, that does raise the stakes rule. This is your score, though. I would say, and we're going this out of 10. Out of 10, zero.
Starting point is 02:11:18 I would say the stakes are seven. Okay. 7.0. Star power, I'm going 9.5. Oh, yeah. Because you got Joe Montana, John Elway, Jerry Rice, Ronnie L. It's a big star. This is a big star-studded event.
Starting point is 02:11:30 This is a star-studded. The amount of Hall of Famers in this game is unbelievable. Gameplay, Niners, 10.0. Broncos, zero point zero. So I say gameplay. I think what. I'm going to give it an 8.5 because you watch the Niners excel and the Broncos just fumble. But this was like, this was a highlight game.
Starting point is 02:11:52 This is what you send to a college to recruit the Niners. 1,000%. You go look at all these highlights and one tape. What about the name of the game? Cultural significance. Of the divorce bowl? How much do you think about this game? For you, it might be very hard.
Starting point is 02:12:05 I mean, it's 10.0 for me. 10.0. This is the game that solidified me as a 49er fan. and also made me understand that it was my dad's fault for the divorce so that was like a big thing I think coming into the Super Bowl
Starting point is 02:12:18 I go I think mom might have been at fault and then after this game I went you know what dad he's bigger than just a game he stole money from you that was kind of fucked up I became a 49er fan but I think I became Team Trish
Starting point is 02:12:31 after this game you help her clean up after a Super Bowl party you know you go oh I can do everything I can only imagine she probably thinks you're on cloud nine you're like with your dad
Starting point is 02:12:43 yeah she's like well he fucking stole money for me how do you like that? Well that kind of real well that got real he's like that you go well I didn't need to know he's one could have to talk to the parade
Starting point is 02:12:53 yeah my stakes I'm gonna go this is I think it's like a 9-5 really yeah for the back to back to back Super Bowl's a weapon game baby if you're in a Super Bowl stakes are life or death
Starting point is 02:13:04 people are getting paid off of this people are getting killed off of this so stakes of a super rule to me personally are always nine plus okay with a 9.7 I'm in back to back this is a big legacy for both sides big legacy you got Joe Montana this is the argument of Joe Montana versus John L.A this is it so I think the stakes are huge I thought the star power nine five as well probably uh gameplay I'm that's where it hits me blow out I got to take
Starting point is 02:13:32 my San Francisco bias off but it's it's shitty when you're watching a Super Bowl and it's not close regardless of what fan base you're on yeah for all the other 100 million people that are watching yeah it's kind of it's kind of whack but offensively speaking this was a fucking clinic yeah um so i'll probably go i'm gonna go with a 7.2 okay and the name of the game hold on jack out of five out of five also out a five because blow out i think i took five for nine or zero for i went with d yeah i went with the eight even's out to a five like dan said yeah and the name of the game for me, the divorce bowl. I'm going to go with an eight. I kind of want to rescore my shit after we came up with that. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to rescore. I'm going to bump this
Starting point is 02:14:15 thing up. Let's get these numbers up. All right. Seven point one. Great. I think I, C's good degrees, dude. I'm going to see where this thing lands. It's going to land high, though. This is your high numbers. Divorce ball just hits different. I like that name. A seven point eight, it's an eight zero four. Dude, that's a that's a low B. No, I know, but it's still pretty. That's going to put us at our new, it's tied with the Ironman match, 44 with Sean Michaels. I absolutely agree. As someone that, that was the first WrestleMania I ever purchased myself with money I got.
Starting point is 02:14:46 Nice. That I would say, you didn't have an illegal box friend? My friend Mitch did. Yeah. But it was hard to get over to his house. I was low on the invitation list and people were popping over there. And that was the first time where I was like, my mom, I like to prove a point, my mom was like, well, you have your own money
Starting point is 02:15:04 by WrestleMania, and I was like, great. Call, call, call it. Say less. Say less. What? I like put the cash down on the center island. I'm like, call it in. Because that was when you had to call a pay per view. And she was like, all right. And then I was like, oh my God. I was like, dude, Roddy, Roddy Piper
Starting point is 02:15:22 versus Goldberg in a street fight. The Return of the Ultimate Warrior versus Triple H. Dude, Sean Michaels versus Brett Hart and a guaranteed 60 minute match. Let's go. Let's go. So I get that. I would do that. It's right below the other Niners.
Starting point is 02:15:37 Niners cheese. See, I think this has got to be higher than that. No. That one is Heidi Gardner's. It was a blowout, dude. It was a blowout. This is Joe's last one. I was.
Starting point is 02:15:46 I know, but it wasn't. We didn't know, though. But you know what's funny is, and I know a huge Niners fan, I would put Joe Montana's Monday night football game against the Broncos over this game. We did this game. We did this game. Yeah. I want to see if it landed higher.
Starting point is 02:16:00 I don't think it did. No. It didn't. Because a regular season. the stakes okay stakes i get it those are biased stakes to like the regular viewer but for the stakes of san francisco i understand that where do we have it we need at rams niners week two baby it's 54th right here okay yeah oh way montana week seven so it was barely above it yeah wait what's the monday night football 85 oh that was bill burr that was bill burr oh great that podcast was great by the way
Starting point is 02:16:29 burr was fucking hilarious on this he made fun of my shoes yeah for the first like you can't wear anything around bill burr i learned that coming up at the comedy seller yeah it's like if you wear anything they're going to clock you immediately they're like a new york comics are like detectives they'll like see something and be like i can tell by the way you walked in you're gay yeah you're like yeah yeah shit like 1 000 percent i bought this when i first started making a little money in like 2011 or whatever i had this uh adidas sweatshirt that i bought that i was like it was striped i was like i'm about to drown in the pussy. And then I walked in the cellar and from the second I stepped into the olive tree,
Starting point is 02:17:05 it was like Joe DeRosa, Sherrod Small and Colin Quinn just being like, do, do, do, do, like, why the fuck would you buy that? What do you want a chain gang? And I was like, God damn it. I never wore, I wore it once into the cellar and I never wore that sweatshirt again. I donated it. That's like the locker room for that. Yeah. Do you just wear it in? You're like, what? I just heard Sharad Small go, what the fuck you wearing? And you're like, it's like a haircut. It's like a haircut. You get a bad haircut and you come into the cellar. You're like, I'm fucked. I'm fucked.
Starting point is 02:17:34 And I got to let it growl out. All these boys, they're just waiting to rip. Just waiting or tear me apart. And they're the best at ripping. What's that? What community has no ball the most? Burr knows ball really well. Samaril knows ball really well.
Starting point is 02:17:47 Basketball really well. Stavros knows Ravens. Shane Gillis knows ball the most. Played football in college at Elon. Shout out, baby. Yeah, he's a big Notre Dame guy. Shane knows the most ball.
Starting point is 02:18:00 but that I know I'm trying to think who else knows ball there's a lot of comics I did a movie recently with him yeah and we were just talking he's the man and in he called me on the way over in between the thing we were talking about football like I'm in my scene doing the scene yeah he's looking at me he goes you don't know that's so funny dude it was so funny is we were just jokingly on the phone on Friday talking about the meanest thing you can say from a man or another man's you don't know ball. Exactly. If you say to another man, you're deba balling him right there. You go, you don't know ball. And you go, because I was saying, we were saying that about another guy. And Shane goes,
Starting point is 02:18:36 ooh, you were hitting him with that? And I was like, oh, dude, I said, it's 11 boys on each side. He doesn't know ball. And he goes, ooh, ooh, when you get me, Shane goes, oh, you're being nasty. You don't say that. He goes, oh, you're being real nasty on that. I mean, I just watched, so I was watching the Sandlot with my daughter. Oh, hell yeah. And like the biggest, the biggest insult at the time in the 50s is you play ball like a girl my daughter has no clue it's like what so why so what why what's wrong with that i was like a girl everyone brings the house down everyone like what the fuck no yeah the modern equivalent is you don't know ball yeah the modern equivalent is you don't know ball you don't know ball i said i jokingly will say that
Starting point is 02:19:20 about like when uh friends of ours like katy and i's friends that aren't in comedy or entertainment or whatever and they'll like a comic that we don't like we'll go like Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't know ball. It really is just a great phrase. Yeah. You don't know a ball. It's just you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:19:35 Exactly. Shut the fuck out. So we miss anything on this game, Dan? No, man. Thank you so much for letting me. This was so fun. This was awesome. When they were like, dude, they want to talk.
Starting point is 02:19:47 And I was like, 1990. The 1989, 1990 Super Bowl. That's all I want to talk about. First off, loved watching you play football. You play, you were one of those dudes. that you could tell you enjoyed playing football. And to me, I think that's what makes the NFL even better is when you see those guys that you go.
Starting point is 02:20:04 Because, like, I still freak out. Like, I did the Palace of the Performing Arts back in February. And as a comedy fan, I'm like, yo, this is where Dana Carvey recorded his HBO special. I like seeing football players that like that. Like, you can tell that it means something to them when they're on the field and they're like, I'm fucking, like, taking it in.
Starting point is 02:20:21 Was it Carvey your guy? Carvey was my first guy. Dana Carvey Bay Area guy. He's from my hometown. Yeah, I know. He's fucking... He's from Redwood City. Oh, really?
Starting point is 02:20:30 Yes. Yeah, dude. I think he was born there, and then he, but, like... But he was a guy where, you know, you talk about your favorite teams or, like, your favorite cast of SNL. My 1990-49ers cast of SNL is, at the same time, SNL from, like, 89 or 90, where it's Mike Myers, Dana Carvey, Phil Hartman. Like, you have young, Farley, young, like, you have this, like, you have just like, yeah, you have, like this young roster. The Sandler there, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:53 Or is he later? A little later. But the, but that's... That's what the, that's what the 1990, 40-9ers are. It's like that S&L cast. Yeah, San Luis, there's 90 to 95. Yeah. So it's like all these young guys are about to be Hall of Famers,
Starting point is 02:21:07 but you also have these, like the legends, but Dana Carvey was my guy. I mean, Garth? Yeah, dude, absolutely. And that's special specifically. Like, so when I was- The stories between from that are sad, though, I heard that. Oh, him and Mike?
Starting point is 02:21:22 Yeah. But I heard they're cool again. They're cool again, but like I've seen, you don't know what's real. what you see these days. But it is one of those things, man, where it's like, when I got to perform at the palace
Starting point is 02:21:31 at the performing arts, I was like, damn. That's sick. I was like, walked on that stage. I was like, yo,
Starting point is 02:21:36 I watched that HBO special over a hundred times. So it was like crazy to be like, damn, dude. I kind of felt like that when I played in Lambo. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:21:46 When you play at Lambo, it's because it's just, you're in the middle of nowhere. It's ancient old. I would assume that's how a baseball player feels when you go to Fenway or Riggley. Riggily, you're going, damn, dude, this is like, I'm in the place where all the people that I loved did it before me, and now I'm doing what I love in the same place.
Starting point is 02:22:05 1,000%. Yeah, it's badass. Dude, thank you for coming on. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then if we got good news for you, Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight. People using action. is in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists,
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Starting point is 02:22:41 Elena Sada believed she had found her calling. In the new season of Sacred Scandal, we pulled back the curtain on a life built on devotion and deception. A man of God, Marcial Massiel, looked Elena in the eye and promised her a life of purpose
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Starting point is 02:23:40 What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game from Scouting Reports and player development to team-building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers, and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a die-hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture.
Starting point is 02:24:23 If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get.
Starting point is 02:24:50 We're just here to try to give you an interesting. NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? It looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that? Yes. I might want to go back at the Colts Stadium. Yeah, might want to go back to the
Starting point is 02:25:07 drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young
Starting point is 02:25:22 73 he is spry i wouldn't fight him i i would listen NFL cover zero with matt jones and drew franklin on the i heart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast i'm dan he's tie hello and we're the solid verbal college football podcast college football season is here and you know what that means your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween. Uh-huh. But fear not. The solid verbal will be right there with you through every soul-crushing loss and impossible comeback.
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Starting point is 02:26:35 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone go check out Golden Retriever of Comedy Tour. Tickets available at DanSoder.com. Listen to his podcast. Sodor, available wherever you listen to podcast. and is that golden retriever of comedy? Is that your Montana dog? Well, I mean, that was, that is, I am,
Starting point is 02:26:57 I got called the golden retriever of comedy by the Opie and Anthony subreddit in like 2012 where they're like, this motherfucker, you throw a premise, he will chase it down. And so I always love that. And people are like, you have big golden retriever energy. So they're like, we got to name this tour and I was like, golden retriever comedy.
Starting point is 02:27:13 I love it. That's what we call grunk. Yeah, dude, he's got golden retriever energy. He's just a fucking big ass golden retriever. Dude, I get excited. And then you got a comedy. down yeah but i'm still happy happy yeah bro thank you for coming on this is awesome this fucking ripped man old dan soda knows some ball he knows ball he loves ball what a guy what do you what do you
Starting point is 02:27:33 what what i was just saying like you guys like could have went to high school together you know from the same era like knowing the same stuff yeah but he was it wasn't a bay kid close enough he was the kid they came into the bay summered in the bay man that had to be super hard being a living in Detroit or Denver that whole story is nuts oh yeah full behind enemy lines vibes you've been doing this thing lately with comedians where you're just like
Starting point is 02:28:00 what's your dysfunction there's one Sam always told me usually isn't that what Sam told me how and why are you broken yeah full time Rinaldi tell me about your childhood yeah Ronaldi I heard Rinaldi got big cat
Starting point is 02:28:17 he did he did bro renaudely hey Rinaldi will come for everyone corner you in and start making you all tearyed up and shit. You better keep your head on a swivel. You might have to start talking about old stories. I'm going to Dan's show tonight.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Let's go. You're going to be awesome. That'll be fun. I'm pumped about that. Well, what another great episode? Gotta get Dan back in here. We got it. I got to go do his show.
Starting point is 02:28:40 You got one? Yeah, New York. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. Well, is it time to get chill? Let's get chill. Let's get chill.
Starting point is 02:28:48 It's time for the chill zone. Brought to you by Coors, Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash GwN and celebrate responsibly. Today in the chill zone, we are talking about a very, very, very special weekend that we just shared in Foxborough slash Everett slash Boston, the greater New England area when we got to see our guy get that red jacket. We're going to recap our weekend at the Patriots Hall of Fame and the ceremonies and everything
Starting point is 02:29:20 that went into it, just to recap a little insider stuff for the fans, I feel like we got to talk about it, man. Yeah, let's do it. We got. You guys in there. Jackson asked a question. You got some first off, Jules, what was, take us through your mindset of the whole weekend, like leading up to it, the actual weekend, the ins of the out, everything. Honestly, it was like, it's kind of nerve-wracking. Is that, is that right? Yeah, I believe it. It's like, I had to like go speak and I wanted it to be somewhat good decent didn't want to look like an idiot up there and then I also had to work
Starting point is 02:29:54 from you know for Fox which I'm still like that's still a game day to me yeah I still get in game day mode when I have to go on to TV because I want to do good you know what I mean I want to do like well at the things I've been working on in my
Starting point is 02:30:10 speaking so like it was a lot mentally but it was really good to have you know all my my family was all there and my close friends and you know it was just it was a it was a fun weekend to get to see them enjoy it you know because it's a family award you know my dad thinks he's basically in the hall of fame now you know oh wow he was really he was a real dream is how many times did did you did you tear up during the i don't know i think i counted two or three i don't know
Starting point is 02:30:40 i did a couple you actually got me too yeah like when you were talking about your dad and your mom that's like oh and then it got worse when i looked over at frank and he was crying i was like here I go here I go yeah it was I don't know it's just anytime you talk about family and like a lot of emotions hit you that like it was I don't think people understand how hard it was yeah yeah I mean like it's a hard it was a hard road that went and there was so many like just crazy moments but also so many low parts that you know you it's a lonely place you know and it just that's i don't know that's why it gets you emotional i didn't i did remember i didn't there's one person i forgot to mention was nick casario i saw in the
Starting point is 02:31:33 panel you were like fuck nick casario worked me a lot and i forgot about my guy i thought he came up he came up though and nah it was billy i didn't get to see him but me and nick so many patriots and all-timers showed up too Yeah, what did that mean to go ahead and see all those? Do you know they were going to be there? Not all of them, no. Wow. I mean, and then also to get to share the stage with Bill Parcells.
Starting point is 02:31:55 Did you guys get to talk much backstage? What a pro. He's just, he's a football coach, man. Still looks great. Still looks great. Still talks great. And like, I don't, he had zero anything. He had nothing written down or anything for his speech.
Starting point is 02:32:10 He went up there and winged it. And like, it was just football coaches can talk. Oh, yeah. And he would shoot a, a, you know, he would shoot a, a little joke to me and he said, I wish I would have got my hands on you. And I mean, I was like, I wish you would have too, because
Starting point is 02:32:24 no, but it was that was like really cool. Because if you think about it, man, he's in like a few Hall of Fame. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, he got the Jets to the AFC championship. He got the Cowboys to
Starting point is 02:32:41 playing well. One with the Giants. Patriots went to the Super Bowl. Like, He didn't just, like, coached a lot of places and not do... He coached everywhere he coached. He did well. Oh, yeah. I mean, he was...
Starting point is 02:32:56 He did work for three of the four AFC at Miami, New York Jets, Patriots, John. I mean, Calvill, he's seen a lot of football. So it was cool to see him. It was cool to see Piole. He was cool to see McDaniels, Billy O. I mean, Slate Dog, everyone there. McCordie came in.
Starting point is 02:33:15 Dola came back. Dola. That was something else, man. Have you met Stanley Morgan before? Huh? Have you met Stanley Morgan before? I've met him briefly. That was the most I met Stanley.
Starting point is 02:33:25 He was really cool, too. Stanley Morgan was, all the guys that are already in that were there, the alumni was, they were all just super cool. And it was, you know, it felt cool to, like, feel like I'm. You're part of it. Part of them. That was, I mean, that's the whole point of it. you're a part of it forever so you know it's it's it was a lot but it was a cool weekend a quick a quick sartorial question here when did have the jacket fitting go what went
Starting point is 02:34:01 into that because you should look a little bit nice and tailored and cropped and yeah they had my guy um how that go new england it was first class they had a dude come out a few weeks before do my size and we had to resize me because i had the neck surgery and so my sizing went down tighter so they came in a couple days before yeah and then so is there rules do they give you rules to the red jacket no but i could leave it there so it's there it's there anytime i need it they'll send it to me or something okay oh that's tight it's like on it's on fedex track stuff whatever i don't know they're like you want you keep it here we just send it to you you know no jersey swaps no jersey swaps jacket swaps honestly though i was
Starting point is 02:34:46 pissed about the loss. Oh, my God. Marron. It looked good in the throwbacks, but... They should have had you down there at halftime to get their heads right, bro. My God. Do you get the spending time with the current team? I didn't.
Starting point is 02:34:59 I saw Braves, though. Yeah. Raves at... Raves at... I saw him in the hallway before the games, and I went kind of long on my speech. And Brabs goes, you know there's only 12 minutes at halftime. All right, wise guy. All right, Braves.
Starting point is 02:35:14 A lot of people to thank up there, Wise. guy fucking guy yeah hey playing catch with with uh with digs before the game that was tight yeah i did one seeing hove got to hang out with hove i got to see jz that was fucking a highlight i loved him i said i told him i go anytime your song came on i knew it was time to go battle because that was tom song that's right public service now moment announcement that was really cool mr craft was awesome i was really impressed with jonathan craft yeah oh my god yeah speech god You got to follow that, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:46 Jonathan went up there and he didn't have a speech prepare. He did all the way. Wait, he didn't? I don't know. Or he think he had something prepared, but I think he just remembered it. Williams guy. Some Williams. Stats off top.
Starting point is 02:35:57 Stats off dome. Moments. Wordplay. Freaking. Delivery. Yeah. And like Stacey James getting some love. Like, played it very well.
Starting point is 02:36:08 I was like, that's a pro. Yeah. You know, I love too. And maybe I shouldn't say this. But Mr. Kraft, too, man. Mr. Kraft, but you guys were all in your red blazers, he's like, that's cute. Check out this blue blazer that I'm going to rock one of one. He said that?
Starting point is 02:36:22 No, but I just got the vibe from the blue blazer here. He looked real good. He did. RKK was slick, as usual. How about JT? J.T. was on the sidelines? J.T. Came to show love?
Starting point is 02:36:30 He and Deuce? Yeah. How cool is that? I wish I was trying to get Lily and him to meet. Oh, my God. Power couple right there. Get some height of the family. That'd be, yeah, honestly.
Starting point is 02:36:41 I'm, I'm, I'm a poor. No, he's always an awesome guy to see Tatum. He's a beast. It was an awesome moment, man. It really was. What was, if you guys had, I want to say also, Jules, for, not want to speak for Kyler, but thank you for having us there, man. That meant so much to, you can make me feel like part of the fan, dog.
Starting point is 02:37:01 I was honored to be there and get to witness it live and in person and get teared up and rub elbows with everybody and meet the cousins and hang with the fam for a weekend. It was, that was unbelievable. I'll never forget that, man. I appreciate you guys coming you guys It's a weekend of a lifetime Our family I sure appreciate
Starting point is 02:37:17 You hang around with you guys a bunch It's kind of like my new work family It's kind of like those guys You know It becomes your family Everyone says your work's not your friend No that's that's fucking lie Yeah
Starting point is 02:37:28 Me and Jack don't talk We're not on camera It's like the freaking olive garden When you hear your family baby When you're here your family baby When you're here your family And we got Endless freaking
Starting point is 02:37:36 Breadsticks And solid What uh Before we Before we wrap it up everybody going, like, what was your... I don't want to put any thorns. There were no thorns on this weekend. But it was everyone's Rose.
Starting point is 02:37:47 What was everyone's Rose? Well, the thorn was the game, the turnovers. Let's all agree on that. Also, some of the jam-packed sprinters coming back from Gillette. You had to be very political. Oh, yeah, yeah. Shout out to them. Yeah, Stadies.
Starting point is 02:37:59 We had some Stadys. And Encore was awesome. Oh, my God. My God. Shout out to everyone who put the show together. Did Mr. Cricks. They hooked us up. Everything.
Starting point is 02:38:09 I mean, there's a lot of legit. See, that's why it's a lot. it's a lot i mean it's it's it's awesome losing his mind the whole time too it was an awesome experience but like just just my rose is to all the people that had the logistics in because it went pretty smooth everything was smooth and and that's all you can ask for i feel that noticed the fans oh you did too we all fans were i only get noticed when i'm there's like no there's hell of people there too at the the speech honestly that's a rose that was awesome they were packing that old stadium or the whole stadium stairs i should say my rose was all seeing all 11s that's pretty cool
Starting point is 02:38:48 yeah there's a lot of 11 sticks i saw some kent state jerseys the sticks were out that was like that's a pretty cool thing it was my rose is for my daughter to see the sticks speaking of rose so she can think that i'm cool bro how could you not be cool hanging with j z ringing the bell she i don't think she really the bell we rang the bell tell us about the bell how do that go like what do you do you just go One, two, three. Or let's go, one, two, three. It was cool. How's the view up there?
Starting point is 02:39:19 Spectacular. I bet you in two more, three more weeks. A little orange, a little... You start to get the foliage. Oh, yeah, baby. You can see as far as the... Miles of foliage. Yes.
Starting point is 02:39:30 In the New England. We like that. Colony. We like that. Around Foxborough. I think my rose... This might be an underrated rose. A little private area. the encore playing some blackjack with my guy
Starting point is 02:39:45 Rubin dealing Dola me you Big House got Lisa on the table We got curdie on the table Got hot That was great vibes This was a great way to kind of wrap the day up And it was very very relaxing environment I love it
Starting point is 02:39:58 That was awesome It was awesome The rooms were great Oh my God The Anbe hooked it up fatty style Those are incredible rooms Thank you Encore Man no wonder Mr. Kraft had to sell off part of the TV
Starting point is 02:40:08 He needs a cash infusion after that He gave us so many rooms smokes, he hooked us up. They hooked us up. Outside the turnovers, A1. Patriots look like a team that when they figure some stuff out, that they're going to be a good team.
Starting point is 02:40:20 100%. Yeah, even good teams can't win with five turnovers, though. Of course. You can't do that. That's the only thing that take away from the game. Yeah. 100%. I mean,
Starting point is 02:40:31 and they had a shot to win. That's a positive. The positive was they had a shot to win. Yeah. That's a positive. Yeah. With five turnovers. You still should have won.
Starting point is 02:40:41 Still could have won. my god not should have you don't turn the ball over and should win anything could have could have 100% you can look at the team be like oh there's some optimism here there's definitely some optimism and roam one built overnight this is gonna take some yeah some fucking time time on task can't keep from learning how to not lose whatever yeah you can't you can't win until you learn from losing there it is sorry much mouth lily on the field was arose too she she she was having fun i was making her do she was she was like racing her cousins and stuff she's enjoying that that was that was like the fun stuff because she's
Starting point is 02:41:11 an age now where she remembers a lot of it. Yeah. She doesn't remember when she was like three, four, two, running on field and shit. That weekend's going to be a core memory for it. A hundred percent. Core memory. That'd be amazing. And that was a chill zone. Thanks to our favorite beer, Coorslight. Get Coorslight delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com
Starting point is 02:41:31 slash GwN and celebrate responsibly. Thank you to everyone for that amazing, beautiful weekend. That was spectacular. The fans showed up. the freaking patriots put everything together my family Sam all you guys big house Kai guy Jack thank you guys love you guys you crushed it bro that was an honor to even be included man I got to witness history and thanks to Dan
Starting point is 02:41:54 to go over my childhood 9 or team but he can't be Dan you can't be throwing see his Mount Rushmore ideas were a little suspect you can't be throwing guys that have never won Super Bowls on Mount Rushmore's. Yeah, like Patrick Willis in there.
Starting point is 02:42:11 I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't necessarily agree with that. I know, but they got to have... When you're talking about an organization, like the Niners, though? The San Francisco 49ers, bro. They got five Super Bowls. And I think... Five.
Starting point is 02:42:24 You kind of stopped becoming a fan because you played so much, right? So, like, he still has that connection, right? I get it. And, like, George Kittle... Is there anyone more 49ers than a guy like George Kittle? No, he has a one one, sure. But, like, it's his Mount Rushmore. He can do it all he wants.
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Starting point is 02:43:09 24291, 2190, and we'll see you guys next week. Games and names of production of our higher radio. For more podcasts from our high radio, visit the higher radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really
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