Games with Names - "The 18 Inning Game" with Hunter Pence | 2014 NLDS: Giants vs. Nationals

Episode Date: November 8, 2022

On today’s episode we go back to one of the longest playoff games in MLB history. That’s right, it’s Game 2 of the 2014 NLDS. We go back to October of 2014 to see what was going on in the world (3:47). We get into the teams and the 2014 MLB season (15:43). Hunter Pence joins the show to relive this 18 inning marathon and go deep on the Giants’ World Series run (26:03). Jules & Sam talk legacy and give this game a score (1:19:50).Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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October 4th, 2014. Nationals Park, Washington, D.C. On a chilly fall evening. With a chance to get one step closer to the World Series. Two National League foes, the San Francisco Giants and the Washington Nationals, take to the diamond. But nine innings wasn't enough. Not even close.

This is Game 2 of the 2014 NLDS. Hi, welcome to Games with Names presented by Winbet. I'm Sam Morrell. And I'm Julian Edelman. And we're on the search for the greatest games of all time. And on today's episode, we talk about Game 2 of the 2014 NLDS Giants versus the Nationals. We got Hunter Pence coming to the studio. We're going to check out what he had going on in October 2014.

And then we're going to take a look back at each of these squads. And then we'll wrap it up by talking legacy and scoring this game. Check out Games With Names on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts. Comment a game you want us to do and rate and review this pod. Why are we doing this? This is the longest playoff game in MLB history at this time. Yeah, well, there was one recently that was pretty long, too. Was it longer?

I think it was the same, right? Was it longer? 18 innings. That's a great number. great number it was longer minute wise but it was also 18 innings 18 damn wow that's that's that's good six hours 23 minutes six hours you know what this brings me back to when i was a kid and you go to giants games you always wanted it to go into extra innings because it would be like 9 30 10 and then you were hoping to death that if it got too late your parents understood and they wouldn't let like make you go to school the next day you got to like have a day of hooky it never went through yeah never went through but like i dream baseball yeah as a kid you're like this is i get more of my favorite thing to watch you're at the park you may be getting another dog you may get

some peanuts you get a foam finger like they cut off beer in the seventh inning though did they they always do i think do they reopen it they have to reopen it for the playoffs why don't they reopen it everyone's sobering up is Is it because of safety? It has to be. Because they don't want you to, they want you to sober up at least three and a half innings before you drive home. Right? I guess. Right?

Well, this game went 18 innings, six hours and 23 minutes. We already said that. I mean, you're a Bay Area kid. You were a huge Giants fan. I was a huge Giants fan. I know you're like a Red Sox guy now, but you're still kind of a Giants fan. Yeah, I'm still definitely a Giants fan. I mean, that's part of what I grew up watching.

So it was actually really cool. Actually, it's going to be really cool to get to interview Hunter Pence because I remember in his heydayday the guy with the long socks fired up all the time kind of tweaky like he's like he was like a tweaker you know and and you know we'll have to get behind that see what what made him he's like tweak from uh south park yeah like yeah what about squeak squeak from baseball underrated gem i love i low-key love it we we need to do basketball on this show and get trey parker and matt stone squeak scolari squeak little bit scolari that guy rules a little bitch

you guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times i'm out of here epic line that's a great movie uh let's go back to october 2014 the number one movie in america gone girl so freaky that was a good good book and movie i remember though yeah but i loved it that girl plays who who's the actress rosamund pike she plays a really good thriller girl yeah she does like it's it's in her face yeah in and around her face yeah she's a good actress it but it just i feel like something it just always like is she not in a lot of these i think she's in a couple thrillers she's a good actress. But I feel like something, it just always like, is she not in a lot of these? I think she's in a lot of these. In a couple thrillers. She's a thriller actress.

She's got a big resume. It's so freaky. Ratajkowski was in it too. Who? Emily Ratajkowski. I just saw her. Didn't you see her? Yeah, she was the college student love interest, I think, right?

Wow. Damn. Look at you, Jack, jack coming out shooting from half court this guy he's he gets facts all across the board jack is killing it the number one song all about the base or the base and ben affleck wouldn't wear a yankees hat in this one refused love it they made it a mets hat sounds like he's a pretty bad actor a good actor would have been able to pretend to be anything Have a little beef with him

You have beef with Affleck? I don't know if it's beef I just remember him calling into ESPN He was doing some tour And it was in 2019 He's saying, Brady has no receivers There's no this, no that This guy

I'm sitting here like, bro, we had drinks at the fucking Met Gala together, and you're going to go out and throw me under a bus like I'm not a good receiver? Damn. That's messed up. It's messed up. No respect. No respect. I thought we had something, man.

We were talking. We were doing Boston accents together. Him, Matt Damon, me. By the way, doing Boston accents. That's just his voice no he's doing an accent geez that's messed up that is and you know what i want to i want to i want to be friends with them i want to be cool with that i respect that i want to be but not great director but then he threw me under the bus the town is a great movie great movie that's an epic boston movie

but that is the fact that he can't wear a Yankees hat. You think you could be Superman but not a Yankees fan? Get the fuck out of here, Affleck. Come on. Now, actually, I'm back on his train. Really? I'm back on Affleck. You just got me off.

I'm back. I'm defending you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I want to be friends with Affleck, too. Me, too. He's like a great filmmaker. All right, well. You got a better shot than I do.

You got the Boston Connect. Clearly not. I can't believe he said that shit about you. I don think he i don't know you don't think he what he might have been on the sauce he does drink i don't know i was just i was a little disappointed he's got no receivers no receivers i mean he could have said he needs another receiver could have said that you should go out on record and say that Matt Damon wrote Good Will Hunting alone. I think he did. I think he did. I heard. Shit's flying.

That's what we were talking about at the Met Gala when we were all together. Drinking. You just said that Damon did the heavy lifting? That's what I heard, I think. Damn. He's probably going to call me out and kill me right now or something. Take Affleck. Oh, without a doubt. No doubt.

No doubt you could take Affleck. without a doubt no doubt no doubt you could tell he plays superheroes you are a fucking superhero let's go super bowl mvp that's my fucking partner yeah dude hype man hype man i'm flavor flavor right now i'm getting you fucking ready to go let's dude october 3rd bb king's last live performance i love bb king yeah legend in the house of blues in chic. That probably had to be awesome. Yeah. I wish I would have got to go to that. I don't know.

Is the last one the one you want to see, though? Hell yeah. Just to say you got to see him. Might have been hanging out by his head, though. Just to say you got to see him? Him? I mean, I'm sure- Buddy Waters?

John Lee Hooker? Love me some blues. Ebola was popping off this- Popping off probably isn't the right word, but Ebola made a big splash. I remember driving down the pike and you would see the signs about like, what is this Ebola stuff?

They'd be like, be careful of Ebola on like the traffic signs. Did you see those? I remember that. It was from a, what was it, a mosquito? Yeah, fucking mosquitoes dude you know you make a dinosaur and you also can make ebola oscar pistorius sentenced to five years in prison for the murder of his girlfriend that was crazy yeah i how did he only get five didn't he got away

then they redid it and he came back he was the sprinter with uh with the medals yeah with the medals dude i think that he's not allowed to actually was he out was is he in the actual olympics too did they outlaw that i think they did because it's like aerodynamic in there i mean he was blowing people out i think wasn't he he didn't he didn't meddle but let me look into what it's looking like we probably can't use any of this this no we could use it why not but i murdered someone we can shit on him all right all right those that's the rules of of comedy you're allowed to shit on bad people all the time wow how about this baseball hall of fame inductees list this year maddox oh glavin the big hurt frank thomas bobby cox tony larusa and my man jo Joe Torre, New York legend. Joe Torre.

I thought he was the Dodgers. Didn't he manage the Dodgers? Was that that guy? Joe Torre was the Yankees manager during that epic run. But didn't he go to the Dodgers? For like a year, I think, right? Oh, that's what he's known for, the Dodgers manager. He was known for-

2008 to 2010, he was there. Oh, 2008 to- But the there oh yeah oh 2008 too but the yankees he won four with us during that stretch oh man and that was a damn good stretch i met tony larissa a couple times we knocked back a couple over and at strega in the waterfront over in boston he's a he's a legend he's a legend he's crazy yeah and who's the uh the pitcher with the mustache uh eckersley eckersley it was me him and eckersley damn how cool is it that he's crazy yeah and who's the uh the pitcher with the mustache uh eckersley eckersley it was me him and eckersley damn how cool is it that he's just known as the pitcher with the mustache that's accuracy he's awesome he's like good hitler he's the good mustache you know i

mean the that that thing's definitely a flavor saver if you know what i mean he's he looks he looks awesome on the mound with that mustache especially in the era he played yeah and in the a's uniform remember he was in the a's he looked those uniforms were already awesome then rocking the mustache that was like pure 80s 90s oh just cool yeah that was fuck energy it was fuck energy no doubt mvPs that year, Mike Trout in the AL, and he's still killing it. He's still the MVP. He's still, I mean, not on his team. They got Otani, who's just on another level. But it's crazy that Mike Trout might be the second most valuable on his team

when he's a surefire Hall of Famer. Then you got NL MVP Clayton Kershaw. Still great. Still good. Yeah. Good. Cy Young winners, Kluber for Cleveland, and Kershaw. Dude, Kershaw was dealing.

He was unhittable. It was so cool to watch. Except when it was in the postseason. He got one. He got one. Yeah. I just don't like the Dodgers. I'm not a Dodgers guy.

I'm not a Dodgers guy either. You can't be a Dodgers guy. I mean, that's where I told them LA sports is tough for me Well I'm the same That's like the number one fighting We fight all the time with those people They're annoying

And also Lakers fans are fucking Other than Jack They're fucking annoying Yeah they really are Cause they They hate LeBron But then they accept his title And then now they hate him again.

Yeah, and they're just spoiled. They had like a couple bad years. I'm like, yeah, but you got those couple bad years because you got to have Kobe retire with you. That's a privilege to have him only be a Laker. I'm only kind of a Lakers fan now because I met Jeannie Bussey, and she's like really cool. She seems cool.

She was a sweetheart. She's, I i mean i'm trying to get her on the podcast i told her she's a badass man i'm like yo come on the podcast we would love to have genie bus on this pod that's where i'm taking home like i don't i can't stand the dodgers but you know i like the lakers have a really cool history i like lakers don't say you like them yeah we have to acknowledge that historically they are impressed i mean yeah it's they're fucking unbelievable they're the lakers franchise it's fucking lakers all right we're done with it fun fact neither of the red socks or yankees made the playoffs

this year in 2014 first time since 93 another horrible year bad years but guess what yankees won in 96 so they didn't have to wait that long but yeah this was uh jeter's farewell tour this year in 2014 and i'll give you that yeah and i fuck with jeter and it was crazy even to see boston give him that ovation that's that's what i was like all right boston's that was pretty classy they did it for mariano too they did not do it for a rod last season for bud selig as commissioner oh bud and pool holes hits his 500th home run it's on 700 now so cool i'm mad he's retiring pool holes has more than pool holes could be the home run champ if he gives it like two more years. Is it 703 right now? What's he need? 755 is the babe?

I believe so. Let me double check. Oh, is Bonds past the babe? Where's Bonds? 763? Bonds, 762. I was off by one. Pujols could get there because he's still looking good.

But it's crazy because he hasn't looked good in years. I know. There was a period where you didn't just ever get to 700 which was but he did it what were we doing in 2014 what were you doing geez i was a road comic i was just doing the road i guess i this was before i just right before i taped my first comedy special for comedy central a half hour uh and i didn't I did an album. In Boston. In Boston?

Yeah, I did a special there. I remember I did a very poor. Where? Fuck, it's right across from the Wilbur. I forgot the name of the venue, but it was, I remember I got pure silence because I did a Boston bombing joke. It was a terrible idea.

A little too soon. It was a terrible idea. I said something along the lines of uh i was like i was devastated when i heard about it my first thought was me and my brother we don't do anything together anymore silence fool i had to save i saved it but i was like fuck i was like you can't not take the risk but uh how about you you were you were just lost to the kansas kansas city chiefs 42 to 14 we just got blown out by the Chiefs on was it Monday night football in the king in the Chiefs kingdom or Arrowhead they blew the socks off us this is

the game where Garoppolo came in and like the question was to Belichick after the game are you thinking about benching Brady? And that's when he said we're on to Cincinnati. This is the on to Cincinnati game. This is the game that single-handedly sparked our season to go on and win the Super Bowl of 2014. Yeah, Trent Dilfer, I believe, said that you guys might not be good anymore.

Yeah, Trent has eaten those words so many times because we went and won three more after that. Yeah trent he's actually a smart guy is trent over the worst quarterback ever to win a super bowl uh let me check on that but he's the first one that comes to mind get the fuck out of here don't you ever say again geez kyler you eat that yeah geez man he's i mean dilfer is close i mean he's top four top three he's a super bowl champ though he is joe flacco no flacco is better than dilfer flacco but there's still stellar for when he backed up phil yeah count that since he just came in for one? What's the key ingredient to having those quarterbacks?

Having a defense where it doesn't matter. Exactly. All of those teams. Jeez. Let's go into the teams. Let's do it. Giants, 88-74. Second in the NL.

I believe they lost to the Dodgers. Yeah. To the dodgers yeah to the dodgers finished six games behind the dodgers yeah um they were coming off a season where they finished third they had a letdown season after winning the world series in 12 uh they also won it in 10 Bruce Bochy Old Boach Love Bochy He was always a cool dude He was the manager All-stars

Hunter Pence Bumgarner And Tim Hudson Key players Buster Posey The catcher He had the silver slugger He was a badass

He was pretty good He was pretty good He got taken They changed the rule At the home plate for him Remember? When he got taken out He had the silver slugger. He was a badass. He was pretty good. He was pretty good. He got taken. They changed the rule at the home plate for him. Remember when he got taken out? Madison Bumgarner, the countryman, hitting dingers, throwing shutouts, and then big-time Timmy Jim, Lincecum.

Guy was like 5'2 and was throwing gas Let's go to the Nationals What are the Nationals? He looked like young Mick Jagger And he's throwing like 102 It was fucking crazy He was tiny Can't forget Pablo Sandoval on that Giants team Big Panda

And the Nationals 96-66 They were first in the NL East. Picked to win the NL East. Manager Matt Williams played as a Giant. Remember that? I loved Matt Williams. Third base.

That was the years I used to love him. First year as a manager. He won manager of the year this year. They're all stars. Jordan Zimmerman, the guy who was throwing that night tyler clipyard he threw let's go back to zimmerin he threw a no hitter in the regular season finale wow no no key players anthony rendon uh he was a golden glove winner ian desmond 24 homers 91 ribbies young bryce harper a young young bryce harper i was watching that 100 games yeah he was a young boy yeah um steven strasburg remember him he was

he had always he had the arm problems he was an ace though yeah remember he got the he had gas gas and then it took him like three years two get back, and he got gas again. Remember? There were guys like that. Remember when the Cubs had Mark Pryor and Kerry Wood? And it's like sometimes it's just hard to keep that arm cooking. It takes a lot to be a power pitcher. Dude, it's got to be hard when you're just throwing something as hard as you can. All day.

All day. Yeah. I went out and picked up the glove and just played catch. I couldn't lift my arm for like two weeks after. Wow. Oh, I'm scared. Just because you go out and you're feeling it. You're throwing.

Oh, I could throw this thing pretty far. Let's do some hard 90s. Let's do some 90-foot throws because that was always the thing. You had to get the 90 feet. Yeah. Couldn't lift my arm the next day. Damn. Yeah.

So the game was a pitcher's duel it was zimmerman and tim hudson who had a kind of a shitty record that year i think i think it was like 9 and 13 no run support no run support because his era was sick but uh so this is a complete pitcher's duel pence was thrown out trying to steal second in the second inning our guest uh the national scored in the third inning to go up one zero no score until the top of the ninth the giants rallied late with a man on first and second good old panda sandoval drives in the tying run posey was thrown out at home trying to uh take the lead there uh cabrera and the manager matt williams both were ejected in the 10th inning love it And then the Brandon Belt home run Nothing like a manager getting ejected

It's classic Because it will energize the team I think It's the dumbest thing ever too Get out Literally That happens in no other sports Basketball it happens Coaches get tossed

But it's not even like a penalty or anything That happens in no other sports. I've never seen a- Basketball, it happens. I'm basketball. Coaches get tossed. Yeah, tossed. Yeah. But it's not even like a penalty or anything. It's like part of strategy some of the times. Like, yeah, shit, the boys need to pick me up. All right. Hey, fuck you. You're out of here.

And the guys are rallying behind them. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous thing, but it's- I mean, I used to remember- Remember old Lou Piniella? He would just come out and kick dirt on people. And I is amazing old school guys are the best because they would do like the little tedious thing like the most disrespectful like they would spit right next to him where it didn't hit him but it was going towards him but they would keep eye contact with them and then if

then they would spit again and if a little it got on the ump he's like you're out of here the dirt on the shoes is is like it's not a manly thing to do you know these are like bulky men you're just like i'll fuck it i'll ruin your shoes it's so weird you know if they're white cleats i'd we're fighting we're fighting things we might have forgotten j Jordan Zimmerman, he threw a gem. 8.2 innings, pitched only three hits, six strikeouts, one earned run. Zimmerman pitched a no-hitter six days earlier. We covered that. This was a pretty slow game. Look at the stat lines. Bryce Harper 0 for 7 at bats.

Crazy. Tim Hudson, seven-engine pitch. stat lines yeah bryce herper 0 for 7 at bats yeah crazy tim hudson seven engine pitch and hudson wasn't like a pure strikeout guy he was kind of like he'll find a spot he'll throw a nice sinker yeah posey was three for six that'll get you the hall yeah oh he was he was a fun ass player buster posey oh yeah i love i love catchers it's such a it's such a gritty position you know yeah you he wasn't your guy don't tell me you have an affleck level story about posey too i don't have an affleck level story with posey he was never your guy i like posey i mean he's like the team general but you could tell he was probably like i don't know he he remember he got hurt at at home plate yeah they changed the rule i loved that i loved that damn i love watching guys get murdered yeah hell yeah pete rose in the all-star game taking a guy's head

off yeah like that's the most action i was a football player of course i'm a little contact it was awesome it was an awesome rule but you can't fault him for that it's the buster posey rule i know but was he complaining about it or what? Yeah, he broke his leg and then he said that they changed the rule. You can't take out the catcher no more. Damn. It doesn't mean he's not a great player. He's a stud. Stud.

But I mean, catchers were always my fave. I was a huge Jorge Posada guy growing up. He was my, I have one jersey for the Yankees. It's Jorge Posada, man. Benito Santiago. Yeah. From the knees. Yeah. Throwing out Posada, man. Benito Santiago. Yeah. From the knees. Yeah.

Throwing out guys. That was my guy. Pudge Rodriguez. Pudge. Pudge is a lovable guy. Everyone loved Pudge. Oh, my God. He was the most incredible defensive catcher I ever saw.

It was lights out. I love baseball catchers. Catchers, they're always like the hardy guys. Both catchers in this one played all 18 innings. All 18? Got to be tough on the knees. Got to respect the Buster Posey for that. Do they have knee savers?

Let me see if either was wearing them. I don't think. Remember it became a thing when knee savers came out, guys wear them, but then the real catchers wouldn't wear the knee savers because they gutted it out. Dude. Got to be very pliable to be a catcher. I mean. You got to get on that tb12 method that's a

tough that's a tough 18 innings 18 oh the final score he's too good a hitter to take out that's the thing you can't take him out can you change position you could that's what you could do you could change someone on like first put buster at first because you're gonna be scooping and scoring all day who hit the game winner? The first baseman. Yeah. Belt. Belt. Belt was it?

Brandon Belt, apparently huge dong. What are we doing over here, guys? Looks like we got one pair of knee savers. Sorry. Okay. Who? Who's wearing knee savers? My man on the Nationals.

That would be... Hold on. Let me get his name here. All right. Well, it wasn't Puster, so all right. I like him more now, I guess. I like him. I'm just glad we didn't have like two beefs in one episode, man.

No. Because Affleck's going to be hearing about this. No, he's not. Oh, this will get on his radar, dude. Yeah, right. A New England sports legend having issues with Affleck? This is news. No, Affleck's just going to—

This is a news story. He's just going to big league me. No, he's not. Yeah, dude, we get—you know, big league. We need more receivers. We have no receivers. He's going to big league me. He's going to big league Super Bowl MVP Julian Edelman?

I've had 14 surgeries, blood, sweat, and tears for his team, and he's just going to just throw me under the bus. It's all right, Matt. I understand. Well, you know who never does that is Giants fans. I mean, I think Imani Toomer is one of the classiest guys I've ever seen. I love me some Mike Hilliard. I love, I can go on and on about Giants wide receivers. I think they're all classy.

Mario Manningham, Plaxico. We love you all here in New York. Giants fans don't do that. I see Mario Manningham, uh, Plaxico. We love you all here in New York. And you know, giants fans don't do that. One little comment about knee savers and we ended up on Mario Manningham somehow. That was Wilson Ramos, by the way, my bad.

Um, final score was two to one. The giants go to up in the series to zero. Uh, let's go to the gaming corner presented by wind bet. What, what's our prop bet gonna be um i got a good one what do you got how many times i can get or you group effort how many times we can get out uh that you think of baseball during sex to delay orgasm he's a baseball player he must have heard of this he's got a

baseball to not come you try to stay in the sexual moment i'm down what what's the what's what how many times we have to hit it we can hit it at least two five i think without making it uncomfortable two five so that means we're hitting it three times two five it is two five it is according to jack all right we're gonna be joined by hunter pence but before then let's take a quick break and let's welcome hunter appreciate you coming what's happening i'm jules sam i'm doing how san this is quite an awesome little set you got here man i'm pretty pumped you got you got jordan you got like all the classics man i'm feeling like a champion just sitting in this corner you are a champion a two-time champion yeah i know but i mean it's just like championships of everything

i mean you got the john madden up here this is sick this is fun you know we got brady and belichick loving each other up which is yeah you know that's that's just love that's a real you see that one that's one of my favorite that's the uh remember when the giants took the the bi-week boat trip before the playoff game and then they got knocked out up top with odell and everyone oh dang not one i do remember that actually yeah oh man yeah i think the cowboys did that too it was like that romo had a bi-week or something and went on went on like a vacation to Cabo. Maybe, maybe not. It sounds correct.

Oh, yeah, that's right. I remember that. Sounds correct. They haven't won a playoff game. Seems focused. Was that when he was with Jessica Simpson or something? Did you go on any vacation with your playoff friends, Jules? No, absolutely not.

Absolutely not. You weren't allowed to. Curfew, right? No, you didn't have curfew, but football is different. You have to prepare all week to be able to perform once a week for three hours. So you're putting all your eggs in that basket. You know what I mean? So it's so different.

It's so much time to think about such a small window of time. Like, even in baseball, you play every day. But when it comes to the playoffs, it feels like it takes forever for the game to get there. Like, you're just thinking. I can't imagine a whole week of just being in your dome. 100%. You know, you can't afford to slide, you know, a couple games here or there because every game is rad important that's why my respect level for baseball players and their competitive stamina is fucking outrageous because i had i

loved baseball i just had way too much add i was a kid picking daisies running around i couldn't i couldn't focus and for someone to have the ability to focus and it's crazy we're getting into the game where you guys went like uh 25 innings whatever 18 innings it's so funny you bring up the add because i i was like 10 and we were doing baseball and we had the counselor the guy the guy in charge uh i space out at shortstop and he just sees me spacing out so he just this is the day we could just zing a hardball at a kid's face just zings me in the face bloody nose unconscious and they was like you got to pay attention i was like i fucking paid attention after that you got to pay attention after a guy

will fucking throw a ball at your face you definitely learn you know that that's like that's a quick way to learn you know you can tell your kid hey don't touch the hot stove but until they burn their hand they don't really know what you're talking about yeah child abuse is good i'm not saying i'm not saying child abuse but like i guess i i have the memory as a kid like my parents were like no no no and i just didn't understand it and i was like oh that's why they said no yeah i learned from the pain yeah sometimes i wouldn't i wouldn't say throw baseballs at kids face or burn your kid's hand no no but experience is the best teacher i guess would be my you know what the crazy thing about that is what my dad actually has thrown a ball

at my face i charged the mound on him when i was 14 years old i was pissed off we were doing bp before a game charged the mount he won to me went to the game with the bloody jersey yeah and i learned never to to charge the mount on my dad again so you were actually charging the mountain i tried i was gonna attack your dad i tried to well yeah he's, uh, you're Robin Ventura. He's Nolan Ryan, right? He beat the shit out of you? Bull.

Bull. It was crazy. But that's, that's definitely, that's the way I live too. My parents were like, if you want to touch the stove, go ahead, touch the stove. You're going to find out why you're not supposed to touch the stove. Yeah. So I had a four, my brother was four years older than me. And like when I, when I was growing up, he was the legend.

He was the best player. And my dad would have me catch him. And we had a trampoline. We didn't have a backstop. We're just in Texas. And he just puts the trampoline. He's like, use that as a backstop. And he's throwing so hard.

I'm scared. And he's jamming, breaking my thumb. But it's ricocheting and hitting me in the back of the head. And we're like, dad, I don't think me in the back of the head yeah and we're like dad i don't think i need that the trampoline as a backstop anymore hey it'll teach you how to block the ball you're either tough or you're not right like catch the ball you can't back away but let's let's get it we went off topic let's get into some of your accolades my accolades all right texas born and raised, played at UT. Arlington.

Yeah, Texas. Texas Arlington. Is that where it's at? Texas, where's that? Texas, UTA? Yeah, it's in Arlington. Texas Arlington. I got to get that.

So it was like a block away from my high school. Was it? Yeah, I also played a year in junior college at Texarkana. Juco guy. Heck yeah, baby. Was that annoying to play so close to high school? Like, was everyone hitting you up for tickets all the time? No, man, I wasn't that popular.

UT Arlington baseball games, there's not that many fans there. Oh, wow. It's not University of Texas Austin. No, no, no. Yeah. But what's crazy is there was, like, three extraordinarily successful big leaguers on my team there. Who? Oh, man.

Mark Lowe, who was, like, a bullpen pitcher. He was with the Rangers when they went to the World Series. He was with Seattle. And then Ryan Roberts, who was known as the tap man. Mark Lowe, who was like a bullpen pitcher. He was with the Rangers when they went to the World Series. He was with Seattle. And then Ryan Roberts, who was known as the tap man. I don't know if you remember these days, but he had some good years with the Diamondbacks, played for the Yankees a little bit. But yeah, all three of us went to UT Arlington at the same time, and all three had long careers see you could tell he's a good hitter because the way he's looking me in the eyes he's got a focus that like i can see him focusing so that's what i picture your eyes looking like when you're looking at the our focus is improving have you seen me play like it's like twitchy i'm a little everything's unorthodox like the high the high high pants what's up with that my all my boys i told him you're coming on because we're all fucking we're all giants fans they're like ask him why is he wears socks like Babe Ruth. So I always liked them high just because it was comfortable.

When you're a kid and I had these long, lanky legs, I could never get them to really fit. So just pulling them up was just comfortable. And then it always annoyed me that it tugged on my knees. But there was one day – so you're sliding or whatever, you're running. The fields aren't that soft. So I'm just like ripped bloody everywhere, right? Yeah.

And the pants with the Giants at the time were these rubber bands that were just squeezing on a bloody open wound on both of them. And I was just like, this freaking sucks. And I need some relief. So I was just like, I'm just going to pull it up above my knee and then pull it down. And it was like, it felt so much better. And then all of a sudden the pants weren't tugging at my knee. I felt faster. And, and I was like, ah, no one's really going to notice, but this feels so much better. So it was just some relief. But then I was just like, I just, I always mess with my team. Like,

cause I, I just, I just like to talk shit. Like, I'm just like, you know, I hit a home run and like, I don't ever like show up the opponent, but i come into the dugout like i i lose my mind i'm like eat shit like whatever you know and and so i always called myself super speed like i loved being on first everyone would complain oh man i gotta run you know i gotta score from first i loved it yeah i was like i was like i'm fucking super speed i'm wide receiver speed so like that was just my i was just messing with them and i was like super speed needs to be in wide receiver pants and that was kind of the thing so was just messing with them. And I was like, super speed needs to be in wide receiver pants. And that was kind of the thing. So it just started with bloody knees and then it just felt more functional. Dude, it's so crazy what the mind does for an athlete.

Like before you had to wear pads in your pants, no one was wearing, like I didn't wear pads in my like knee pads, thigh pads in my pants my first like four years until they mandated it because like, you're like, I don't feel it. You feel faster. And mandated it because like you're like i don't feel it you feel faster and if you feel like you're faster that's enough you're faster mental it's all mental so you didn't you know so they mandate you have to have to now not and they have to be over your knees why would they force you to do that because they think it's gonna like they think it'll help you not tear an acl i don't know no fun league bro dang no but we love the nfl we love the nfl so it's not fun because because to me like for instance like i guess there's like

for me it's like function is what mattered the most about it like and also like feel like you said if it gives me a mental edge like whatever like looking sweet sometimes makes you feel a little better i would always like try to add some like some random flair for the playoffs just to feel a little sweeter yeah you know um what was your flair for this game uh for which game for the 18 inning nl ds man i don't even crazy i i think i don't even remember i know i think in 2012 i was like unbuttoning a couple extra buttons because i'm naturally a nice guy and i like when i take the field like i have to become a different person like you have to be a little mean like you have to have a little killer in you sure so it was like to like turn that on i think that year i put like i did like the the little tight wristband around my bicep to just show off older bicep you gotta

get your vascular when you cut the circulation yeah so i had that like up here uh for that 18 did you yeah the 18 in game man that was interesting that was like we talk about this like sometimes you think of baseball during sex to delay orgasm this is the game we're talking about 18 innings pitcher duel you know that's what i was thinking about it a couple times i have a lot of thoughts on this game but i want to hear y'all's questions well do you do you ever think of baseball to delay orgasm by the way is that just uh no i know i don't even understand what you think about it baseball as a delayed orgasm no you've never heard about that you think of baseball during sex to last longer oh that's how you bore yourself yeah okay you've never heard

that no he probably gets fired up he's like man he's all you can't think about like viagra to this guy he's rock hard no i think of wade boggs i mean it definitely wouldn't like turn me on i'm not like all baseball yeah this is sexy no that's do you do you do it or no i have i have wade boggs in my head and yankees pinstripes and i'm just like that weird lefty swing and i'm just like i'm i'm hard as a rock i stay good no no never heard of that i i've heard of it i've heard of it but i've never i it, but I've never. I'm sort of the opposite, though. I got to hyper-focus to actually get off. It's like an effort. Interesting. Yeah.

I mean, you are a competitor. This guy's got, like I said, competitive stamina. I'm going to lock in. Competitive stamina. So 18-inning game. I mean, this was like. I got a question, though. Wait, wait, wait.

Please. Let's lead into this. So you get traded to the Giants in 12. Yeah, you were middle of the season. No, you was on the Astros? Yeah, I was on the Phillies. Phillies? You were drafted Astros.

Drafted Astros, traded to the Phillies, 2011. Probably the best, most talented team I was ever on. It was like Roy Holiday, Cliff Lee, both Cy Young candidates. Cole Hamels was our three, and Roy Oswalt was our four. That's insane that Cole Hamels was a three. Yeah, Cole Hamels was a three. That's insane. Right? And this is in his prime his prime madsen is our setup guy who's like an elite closer world series champion closer brad lidge is our actual closer yeah like our team was

like absolutely insane it was like and you would general brian howard hit 40 homers that year utley yeah uh you know me and my prime like yeah dude it was that team was insane did it hurt to get traded off this stack team uh well the next year so we were like four games out uh the next year and i remember howard and utley were out so it was literally just me jayroll victorino ruiz was having a heck of a season yeah but we were missing utley and howard well luckily you were in philadelphia which is a very forgiving fan base. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were four games out and so it was super weird. I did not expect to be traded. I was like, dude, we're gonna

come back. We're gonna win this division. We were on a streak. We're getting Utley. We're getting Howard back and they trade Victorino. They trade me and I was like, super shocked. How does that go down? Hey, yo, Hunter, we gotta talk to you, dude. Bring your playbook. What is that? What is getting traded? How do trade how do they is your agent did you find out from your agent first

or the manager give it to you this is super weird like so the night before there was like a fake twitter thing where they were like just all the giants fans were like we got on our pants we traded like as a fake thing the night before and i was like what like so i thought i was trading and i was like no you're not trading this is like kind of pre-twitter i'd say like this is like the beginning of the beginning of twitter like it was like a it was like a troll they were like trolling me and then the next day uh you know so that happened we had an off day in washington the next day i wake up and espn starts saying hunter pence traded to the giants this is how you find out i say i see it ticking and i'm like it's super weird

because i'm like you know i'm headed to the field with with ty wigginton a couple of the teammates and they're like hey man it says you're traded have you heard i was like i haven't heard anything and so i'm like what do i do i was like i guess i go to the field so we're all in a cab headed to the field and i get a call from ruben amaro jr the the gm at the time and he's like hey look like i just want you to know like you know we've traded you the giants but like we don't want this to be you know we want to talk to you whenever you become a free agent like so he was actually super cool how many years you have on your deal i still had the next so it was like i was going to play this year and the next year arbitration how do

you feel about them saying that to you we still want to work this out someday it actually made me feel a little better but i was definitely like when I first got traded, like I was like having nightmares and like waking up thinking I was still with the Phillies. Cause I was like, I was so set and I'm a big, like, like, like psychology guy. Like I do a lot of mental work and I, and I'm a big, like, like cerebral, like thinker. Like I believe our thoughts are really powerful. So like, I remember that year I was reading this this book like think and grow rich and it was like talking about your affirmations and emotions and i would just be on the bus with the phillies like even when we lost i'm like i'm a world series champion right now right now i'd try to fill the bus with my thoughts like everywhere

like seen as a philly and then when i got traded i was like what the it was super crazy is that where because i heard you get you you were the guy that gave pre-game speeches in sf and it came from yeah i honestly i believe that i summon like a like i believe that i built such thought momentum that i was just like guided to say the right thing at the right time if i was just bold enough to do it yeah and so like it all just kind of unfolded it's this weird path of like like knowing when to say something everyone like getting everyone to chip in and then at the end of the day like unless you're about it like you can say and talk to your blue in the space but like if you're not that dude that's like about it and like means it and like like you they're not gonna like really care or listen goals without actions are just dreams boys yeah you have to act you have to be it like gotta be it and and i was literally like just i

had like thought it thought it put in the work done the action like just like i all i could would think about like all day every day like while we were in these runs is like i love this team i love this game we're gonna win today i would just like repeat that over and over and over again in my mind you know the team you always need a guy like that too because i was quite the opposite i was like oh fuck we're gonna lose we're feeling complacent this guy had a terrible practice what the fuck are we doing i can't sleep at night because we didn't get this play call in right at prac like you know so you need you were seeing all the worms and not the apple you got it you know but you need both you do you need both because you need an asshole yeah to let motherfuckers know yeah like this ain't acceptable and you know but you also need guys

like hunter where hey you need the optimism you need this you know the mindset so i think it's a good contrast we always had those kind of things like i was always the bad cop when tom was be the good cop because tom couldn't be the bad cop because if Tom was the bad cop with some guys, they'd shit their pants. You know what I mean? The guys were watching him when they were two years old. They come into the locker room. Tom says, hey, dude, you got to get to your depth on this route. The guy's like, oh, shit, he's never going to throw me the ball.

But if I go up to him and say, hey, motherfucker, get your route, then he doesn't know it's coming from Tom and we can all play ball. Pisses him off off then he goes and plays his best ball yeah absolutely like i actually do think that you have to have confrontation yes like if you actually care like say what's your intention behind your action right like if you're like hey motherfucker you got to get to this ball it's to make the team better like it's to make him better it's not like it's not like hey man i don't like you it's like no like like let's fucking tighten this up if i'm afraid to address that or confront because there's a lot of egos it's it's not like it's not like hey man i don't like you it's like no like like let's fucking tighten this up if i'm afraid to address that or confront because there's a lot of egos

it's it's it's professional sports yeah people that don't want to think that they ever mess up but someone has to let them know you have to have like you have to have some asshole in the fucking clubhouse always how do you walk that line between being the asshole and being like this like enthusiastic motivator yeah i was not that great at being the asshole and being like this, like enthusiastic motivator? Yeah. I was not that great at being the asshole, but I did learn how to approach things properly. Right. Like,

or, or, or work on it or get the, like have the right good cop, bad cop. Like Buster didn't mind being the asshole. Yeah. You know,

like he didn't mind. I mean, his name is literally Buster. You got to be the asshole. Like, well, I mean, but you know,

when it's coming from Buster, like he, he was crazy man he sees so everyone what everyone does he knows what everyone's doing is able to manage his wife his kids like it's just insane what he's able to accomplish uh but he would like know what every bullpen pitcher was doing what every position player like he would get mad at belt for never trying a new bat he'd be like dude try a new bat like you've stolen the same bat for eight years like you know just like little weird things like he knows what bat you're swinging he knows how you're stretching when

you're stretching what time you went to the training room and he didn't even get there in time it's like yeah it's leadership but yeah some form there's forms of different leadership at the end of the day no i i think you're right it takes a balance and you can't just have all all good all good like like and if i even went into the message of my whole speech that's a whole nother story like the one in 2012 the one that i think actually had an impact yeah like which one was that the one in 2012 in cincinnati but do you remember anything from that i remember i remember the message like the main message of it and basically basically scientology is good yeah no it stemmed from the demon of losing in 2011

and feeling that pain and being on like the best team ever and like everyone on that year was like in 2008 this in 2008 that because that's when the Phillies won the World Series and then like you know I'm here on the Giants and they're like in 2010 this in 2010 that and this is what the Red Sox did and like when they came back

and I was like I don't give a fuck what they did you know like it doesn't matter what you know what happened in 2010 2008 it doesn't matter what the red sox did all that matters is what we in this room decide because it's right fucking now and i was like i made my fucking decision i don't care if we have to win 100 games in a row i'm going out there and i'm giving everything i have because i want to play another day i fucking love this game i'm not ready to go home yeah i want to run through the fucking wall me too like it wasn't and so like i guess i guess like i when i look back on it like what what does that do it frees you from trying to force it because i remember in 2011 everyone's like oh i'm gonna be the guy i'm

gonna make it happen but you can't force things you can't try to force yourself to be the guy you get in rhythm when everyone's like i'm just gonna give what i got and that's enough and i'm gonna if a walk happens here that's enough if it's just like going and diving for a fly ball down the line like that's my moment like just be in your moment and take care of your business and we're gonna do this together because like we want to be here we're not because you're trying to like be the hero versus just be yourself and like it's like fuck it i don't care what anyone's happened like i've made my decision yeah it's such a good reminder like you're here because you love this too you don't get to the level you get to without the work and the discipline and the love for the game so if you think like shit i would do this for 50 grand a year and i'm getting paid way more

than that let's fucking go out and have fun yeah you know yeah yeah it was like remember how fun it is to be here and like yeah how do we get our best selves out there? And you got to free yourself from the fear of like, what could we lose versus like, this is what we have. Now what's Brian Wilson doing when you're giving these speeches? Brian Wilson was amazing. And he was hurt this year, but he brought a lot. So like, honestly, a lot of the speech came from a conversation with Javi Lopez, who's won four world series, sidearm lefty one of the greatest communicators he was kind of a good bad cop he was a guy that's like oh we're not

fucking doing this we're not and he was the one that said if we don't say something we're fucking dead because we were down oh two to the reds we had to play three games there they hadn't lost two in a row since like April yeah this is October uh and and he's like and he was like it was the same feeling that we had with the Phillies in game five, where everyone was just kind of like, ha ha ha, like kind of quiet. Yeah. And, and it was him and Scooter O and Wilson. And I was like, well, I'll fucking say anything. Let's go.

Like, what do you want to say? What do you want to say? So I kind of collected like some of their thoughts and Wilson was like, he like got on board. He's like, you're fucking right. Like every breath I take is a win. Every hemoglobin, every, he's like, he's like all of the fucking, all of my chromosomes, every cell of my body is coming to help you win.

Like he was just like, fuck. I feel like a lot of you guys got your energy from Charlie Sheen, Tiger Blood. I feel like Brian Wilson, he was like straight comedy, but he was, yeah, definitely Charlie Sheen, Tiger Blood, even though I don't know if that was out yet. Oh, maybe not. And a mixture of like Will Ferrell.

It probably was out. I used to watch brian wilson's youtube videos with the machine oh yeah remember that guy you guys and you guys i'm pretty sure that was burl was it yeah he would because he actually he would just do that at parties he would just put on a thong in the head and he would just smoke a cigarette in the corner by the way that's the scariest dude on the planet girls home from the bar and then and then just yeah times were crazy before cell phone pictures and cameras right oh my god like was he has some i've heard some pat burrell stories trust me because i i grew up in the area and there's some girls that i know that were from that that used to hang out a lot of the giants games and exactly what you said i heard us i won't get i think he did it for a reaction though like i i

i've never seen this i just had a lot of friends that were friends with burl and would just tell these stories so it's like i can't say that any of this is true it's just what i've heard about burl from some of his friends that like love him and they just say that he's just just a wild character and just loves to get reactions out of people so you guys were a fucking pretty that like that's a fun team it was a real fun and that probably helped you or lincecum so wait yeah it was in pablo in his heyday these guys were crazy man yeah it's a bunch it looks like a movie like because you're like just the look of like lincecum and pablo like they all look like a movie character you know in like major they were

rock stars man and they were i would go out in the marina when i'd come home to go visit my friends and i was playing on the pats and you'd see a fucking just blob of people around like a bar i'm like what's going on over there like ah the giants are over there well lindsay come look i was like big time team there i was like nah tim barely ever go like he was like he's kind of i think he hit me up i well someone hit me up with his name on twitter and it was verified but i don't think it was him because he kept on like hit it was weird felt like a weird interaction he asked you for dick pics and you were like i don't think this is tim lindsicum so that's not tim no but

is he a football fan i don't because then if he's not then heinscombe. No, but is he a football fan? I don't – because then if he's not, then it's definitely not Tim Linscombe. He's not a hardcore football fan, I don't think. I mean, I think he maybe watches it. He's kind of like a Seattle guy. He's different than you would think, but like – In what way? Like, I mean, Timmy was – Timmy wanted to be by himself. He's kind of social anxious anxious but like he's one

of the biggest givers yeah like he's like the softest sweetest guy he was like the craziest athlete like he could he bought every like when i say biggest givers he bought you remember those little things that you could scoot around like that the hoverboards or whatever yeah he bought the whole team he bought like 55 of them and just gave him because he loved him so much he'd be like running around on one foot like dancing like he could just do like all sorts of crazy gymnast stuff um but like he was like the nicest friendliest like didn't want to like bother anyone wanted to just hang out in his room play video games and smoke weed like and that's like all he wanted to do but when he got into competition he like fucking could not lose like he was just like he wouldn't even play video games against anyone because he's like i'm i i can't lose like if i lose it's it's bad and so he just like wouldn't

ever play any against anyone but the computer so it's like this super nice the nicest guy you ever met like he's like literally on top of the world but afraid of the world but then when he takes the mound he's like he's five foot nothing 140 pounds but he's like this ultimate killer he just becomes a killer yeah like you're fucking staying there and like i'm gonna i'm gonna strike you out like i'm gonna whoop your ass and just that competitive spirit that killer came out in this little sweet soul yeah did it and i didn't know he was a gymnast but that explains everything why a five foot nothing guy he's not actually a gymnast but he could just do acrobatics yeah but like that just that leverage strength and that athleticism like functional athleticism is

huge to get you know make that kind of power being that small let's get to 2014 okay you guys are on a nine game winning streak you're in and you're playing and getting ready for this game in the nlds washington national washington nationals now what do you what's your mindset going into this like are you guys thinking you guys are you're going to the ship or you guys pissed off from the year before when you didn't get there because they went to it and you guys went to it in 12 how what was your approach going into this series in 2014 yeah um so let's rewind 2014 so basically 2012 we won the division like we took off with it right yeah that's that's a different animal barely here 2014 we we have bum gunner i

think bum gunner versus kershaw or something in la um they're looking to win the division and crazy clutch game like like we didn't score anything for Bum. He gave up, like, one, maybe two runs. Maybe even hit a solo homer and lost, like, two to one. And, like, LA's going nuts on us. Like, they're, like, flicking us off on our bus. Like, we can't barely get out of there. And so we lose the division in LA with our guy on the mound. And we're just, like, everyone's down.

And I knew we were going to eventually, like eventually like we're gonna eventually get to the wild card game right so i'm talking with vogie he's like man we just fucking don't have what we had similar to you like he's like we don't have what we had in 2012 i was like no like when we had when we came into spring training we were like one fucking step closer to the world series like like all that matters like our only goal is to be a world series champion and guess what when we make the wild card we're still on the path. Now we get to celebrate more. There's another game.

It does not matter who won the division. It matters what we do in the playoffs. It was kind of like my mindset. And he's like, yeah, yeah, but we just, we aren't that team. And I was like, we have to make sure that when we win this wild card, even though we just took this gut punch,

that we realize that it's how, it doesn't matter how you get A to B, we're going to B. And we have to fucking celebrate this and realize that being in the playoffs is not guaranteed and it's a fucking accomplishment so i like and that's when the whole hunter mother hunter motherfucking pence because like they brought in live cameras while i'm saying this to the team and i'm dropping like all my f-bombs because i just get in the f-bomb zone and uh and i'm like and and basically i'm like when when we finally sealed our deal we were were going to Pittsburgh. I'm sorry, this isn't the nationals, but

we're going to Pittsburgh. And I'm like, Hey, they're pitching their ace. They pitch Cole to try. Cause they could have won the division on the last day. And I'm looking for any mental edge. I'm like, look, they're going to be pissed that they have to play the wild card game. They've lost a couple of them. They're going to, we're having to play on the road no matter what, but they're, so we're going to face Volca face volquez not cole they the cardinals end up winning the pirates win so they end up falling to the wild card i'm like they're gonna be pissed about this we got to go in there like hell fucking yeah like we got bum ready we got our ace ready and like we're gonna fucking burn this city to the ground like like so we were all prepped and ready for that game

it'd be great if you actually just burn the city to the grid i mean it's it's a it's a metaphor for no i know like literally i understand sports putting your heart i've burned a couple cities down yeah you played with that same energy so and i remember jake peavy like he was like afraid of all the fucking the you know the turbulence you get a lot of turbulence in the summer and sure the fucking planes doing all this and we're flat landed into pittsburgh and pv gets up and he screams the only fucking thing i'm worried about is if this plane lands pittsburgh as fuck god damn it get this plane on the ground i'll never forget that and we were all like hell yeah oh yeah jesus you just got to look at the flight attendant as long as they're not freaking out i mean that's my that's my trick oh that's what if you see that's where you get your faith is through the flight attendants absolutely if you see if you see them doing like one of these

i'm like fuck this shit we're going down but as long as they're as long as they're looking cool i'm good dude we had a teammate once and i a story just broke about it we signed this kid he was like a guard yeah in the middle of the season we were banged up and they bring a group of the guys in like the leaders to talk like all right guys this guy's got like a like an insane case of add we got to be on him because we need him this game he needs to perform like it was a division round and like just to be sure guys like this guy's he's a little weird, you know? So he goes out and we have him. He practices. He's all right.

I'm like, all right, we'll see what's up. We get in the plane. And like he takes like crazy medication for this ADD stuff or whatever. And we get up and he has like a reaction or something. And like he's trying to get out of the plane. First week on the team, trying to get out of the plane first week on the team trying to get out of the plane our trainers go and get will fork and or or i think it was will fork or someone like yo we need you to get hold this guy down they had to like put this guy

in a stray jacket we had to we flew back dropped him off it was fucking while you're in the air while we're in the air and then one of our other teammates patrick chung he doesn't even fucking like flying he flew back when once we flew there he wouldn't fly back with the with our team plane he flew back commercial because he thought there was like a hex or something on the plane and so we got i mean it was a fucking it was a shit storm he's doing the shit on like on adderall Adderall? I don't know what it was. He was on some medication, but the motherfucker, they were holding him down, belting him. He was turning red.

He's like a 310 pound guy. On the flight? On the flight. That's crazy. He was trying to get out of the plane. We had to tranquilize this motherfucker. It was crazy. I don't know.

I used to take Adderall before fights with my ex because I know she would kill me if I didn't take it. But if I popped an Adderall, I'm like, I could be like Bradley Cooper in Limitless and I could hold my own. You find angles. Do you know what I mean? I know.

Is that what Adderall is? It's the Limitless pill? You focus. You focus like a motherfucker. It's good. We couldn't take Adderall. The NFL can't? You have to go through like a TUE.

You're not allowed to take Adderall? No, it's really tough. Guys take it, but it's tough to get the prescription you got to go through the nfl doctors but you said you had add yeah but i had too much add even go through the fucking procedures to even do that shit like i'm like i can't even make it through the procedure yeah no there's a lot of baseball players that get the tue or whatever i never had one i just i looked like it because i drank so much coffee but i was twitchy how much how many coffees a day a lot man like six like easy yeah easily wow just coffee or we know i'll do a pot before i go to the coffee shop damn like a soda like no a pot of coffee at home i'll do like a 10 cup pot of coffee like 10 you know the whole thing i'll

drink the whole thing and then go to the coffee shop, get two espressos. I'm like numb to that. But doesn't that make you have to piss during the game? I mean, yeah, I piss in between every inning because I'm also hydrating

at the same time. There's a bathroom in the dugout. Yeah, that makes sense. I didn't know. Yeah. I guess other sports, you don't have that. Like football, you don't have that like football you don't

have that you have to like leave the field oh damn you can't go to the bathroom the whole game i piss on i piss i used to piss on the sideline really actually had a teammate shit on the sideline we got to do what you got to do to play right dude yes you do it it was like you get these two little like intern trainers that like come out and put towels around you you see a fucking new york jets fan like motherfucking you laughing like i'm taking a piss you're like pissing and shit yeah your ass is hanging out because your pants are so hard to put on and shit you barely can get your dong out because like it's too tight you're like oh shit that's amazing that does suck it does not sound like fun it sucks how much do you hear fans while you're playing i don't hear them as much in the game like on the sideline when we're like in between drives

here and there it depends on the game you know like if we're playing like a scrub team you'll you'll hear things because you're already blowing them out you know what i mean but like when you're in the in the moment you when you're on the sideline it's like it's procedural you have to go through the assign i go through my plays of the previous drive i want to sit and talk with brady and what he's thinking for the next drive then you go meet over with the quarter or the quarterback coach mcdaniels and and the receiver coach it's like it's all like what are we doing how do we get better next drive can't think about that shit you know what's what's some of the like coolest stuff that's ever been like accomplished

on in that part or like like for instance like because like i love like watching sports for inspiration and just seeing you know you're inspired by the moment and i remember this is a weird one but i'm a tyron matthew fan and like when kansas city was losing in their super bowl win they were like down i think 21 or something like quite a bit and matt and there was something that happened and matthew just like lost his mind and i was like oh damn this is fucking awesome yeah and they they obviously like from that moment on the defense just locked it down and they came back and won i gotta who did they beat matt niners yeah but but like i do you think that that had as big an impact as I thought it did did

you see that game did you watch which game was it the Super Bowl with the Niners and the and the Chiefs Niners Chiefs Mathis Matthew Tyron Matthew Tyron yeah I think that's just players making plays in big time situations that's subconsciously in his head from his preparation that's what I believe yeah you know everything that he studied in the game something went wrong and he was just That's subconsciously in his head from his preparation. That's what I believe. Yeah. You know, everything that he studied in the game. Something went wrong and he was just like, hey, clean it up. Or then the information he studied all week, the more you study and the better you practice, then it's subconsciously in your head, I feel. Yeah.

So then maybe it just clicked in after something that they talked about or they got a tendency breaker on something or he knows the the snap count when the guard does something like this like there's little shit like that that he probably could have got a hold of that game yeah because it like it switched right after that so but has there ever been like some yeah so there's been i would like to hear some of those stories. Yeah. The Super Bowl in 14, crazy, same year, against Seattle. We put in this play on the game when it, like on the last touchdown I scored, it was the X return. All week we were preparing for like a different coverage in the red area cover seven cover four it's like

a zone type of thing and they were playing a lot more man post safety man where they do one cheat they'd have the safety go over to gronk they'd leave me backside one-on-one and so we put in on the sideline yo let's do x return we'll do a spin on the front side and you'll be the first read and we ended up scoring on it so you know that's the kind of shit that happens that's the collaborative effort of what people see each and every drive like that's what happens on the sideline so you prepared for one thing and then you you kept it fluid and dynamic to the moment to the moment which is like something that a lot of times in baseball they miss out on on being dynamic they'll give you like a game plan

as a pitcher and it's like this batter you know it's cold here come here but then like a hitter could be like like for instance i don't know if y'all watched the game last night where gene carlo just hit that that cutter away yeah like 100 he was sitting cutter the whole at bat yeah and like if if hedges could have maybe seen that like you know just like his his takes kind of showed it and he painted he threw i mean francona said he left it up but it was painted away it was like middle of the plate you know not down but yeah there's no way you're hitting that unless you're completely looking for and that's what gets lost if you're not staying dynamic yeah it's cool that it's similar in

football let's uh let's get to the game though i mean this mean, this is an 18-inning game. Zimmerman is... We haven't gotten through our first. That's what this podcast really is. It's honestly, we like the conversation with the people about their career and what they do and leading to the game. I think it all matters. Yeah, we don't want to cover everything. But I mean, this was 18 innings.

Zimmerman is dealing on you guys. I mean, he is in the zone. We found out he's not Jewish, which we were bummed about. Julian, I was talking about it. Although, let's just say if Kanye hears the name, he's not going to be happy. So is he one of us? We don't know. We don't know.

We don't know Kanye. But he's dealing on you guys. I mean, is this tough as a batter? Is this in your head at all at a certain point uh i think every at bat is like compounding on it on it you know on top of the other so you're just like you're just getting ready for each at bat and he just keeps getting you out so like you know but our pitching was keeping it close so you're just like keep moving keep moving stay in the moment stay in the moment how do you vet he's like what 38 here yeah huddy was you know smoking mirrors throwing smoke bombs up there and yeah that was his joke that he would always talk about smoking mirrors baby keep

throwing because it was like turbo sinker it wasn't really fast but it's just freaking smoke bomb yeah yeah and he was so good at it amazing amazing leader tim hudson amazing career yeah i remember when he was on oakland and it was like zito molder and i love the way he did his hat yeah yeah he always had a cool hat like it was like a little box here he had a good a little you know if i can if i can give a cool story on huddy and once again we're not on on par with this with this so when we first get him was in 2014 and i remember we were like five innings in the game and someone gets like a blooper or he walks a guy like someone gets a blooper or whatever and then and then like we may be like something happens like just the weakest run ever scored and we're

losing one to nothing in the fifth and he comes in and like this is like one of his first games and he just freaking fires his glove into the thing and i'm like oh god like he's pissed at because like we it was like kind of bad defense or something it's like oh he, God, like he's pissed at – because it was like kind of bad defense or something. It's like, oh, he's pissed at us. He goes, fuck, guys. My bad. Pick me up. And I was like, what? He's saying his bad?

That was not his bad. And it just like – it got us all fired up like – because we had never seen anything like that before. And it like changed all of our pitching staff when they saw that, that like – That he took the L instead of blaming you guys. Yeah. He was like, my bad, boys. Pick me up. me up and like yeah and it was like totally not his fault you know i'm a big hudson guy even more now he points he doesn't point fingers he points thumbs yeah my kind of guy he's a thumb guy he also is a dude that didn't get a ton of run support a lot

of his career no and he always had a good era dude he lit up a room like he was just a funny like would just tell the funniest stories was always laughing like you want to talk about like the john wayne of baseball is just like fucking cool as shit man oh yeah you always have that you always have a guy that's just cool yeah regardless he's just cool yeah like everything he did was just fucking cool and awesome so you guys are in you know kind of a pitcher's duel how do you how do you how do you keep that stamp like does it bum you out does it frustrate you or like you said you compound it are you just waiting for the so damn to break so let me give you the cool story of this whole game so you know me and pb were always looking for things to just like latch on to and to just go like just go bananas in the dugout because like we believe in like energy because it can get stale.

And Zimmerman's just freaking dominating us. And like all of a sudden, I don't remember exactly when, but they pulled him out in the ninth inning. Yeah. And that's back when pitchers would go nine innings. It was like just a walk or something to Joe Panik. And like it was like kind of a borderline even. Joe Panik? Joe Panik got a walk. He gave him the panic button like it was like kind of a borderline even joe panic joe panic got a walk he gave him the panic button yeah the guy gave him the panic button all of a sudden and

so they have their closer was like a one something era like uh i don't even i should remember his name but i don't remember exactly but i remember that like the last two months he like hadn't given up a run he was like lights out but we still like when they took him out we're like he's not gonna finish the game he doesn't want to win they're scared baby we just start screaming this like this is our game now he's coming out was this before his his dinger or after before you said but before who's doing this isn't this is the ninth this is we're down a run like it's like one nothing yeah but doesn't say it's a double it's a double yeah yeah he brings a guy it's a double or something so but they they it was it was just a walk to panic right and then i think i think uh buster hits a single once they bring in stop uh i forget what this

guy's name was but uh buster hits a single panic gets like first and second and and we had like gone you know crazy and then buster hit or pablo hits the double and buster gets thrown out at home so the inning ends but we tied the game yeah and then that's when i think you smile petite who by the way this was like the unsung hero of this whole playoffs in 2014 that nobody talks about he threw six innings didn't give up a run yeah extra innings like like i mean you smile petite that season he he broke the record for the most perfect innings didn't give up a run. Extra innings. I mean, Yusmar Petit that season, he broke the record for the most perfect innings thrown of all time. And you know what it ended on? They gave him a start. This is during the season. Nobody really knows this. I still have nightmares about

it. They give Yusmar Petit a start and he goes eight and two thirds. They pinch hit Eric Chavez, who every single hit he had gotten was the other way against us the whole season and so not at ninth inning two outs perfect game on the line this dude's already broken the record uh he did it all from being a bullpen guy like just mop up innings and then just like he ends up having a great career still no one talks about him because he has he does he has no sauce no like no flair he just like calmly whoops your ass. Yeah. Those 89 miles an hour and dots everything. Little movement. Just like he's just like this dude that has a dip in, plays cards. He's like just the ultimate teammate, always happy.

And so sure enough, I scoot over like two steps to the right. Perfect game right here. Like we've only seen Matt Cain in San Francisco. And Chavez leans out on a curveball and flicks a top spinner in front of me and I felt like you know those dreams where you can't run it like literally felt like time slowed down and I just couldn't run and I like dive and it's like three feet probably the two steps that I took the other way away from me that was the end of his perfect game and his perfect run and I'm still upset about it and he's one of the greatest he probably he probably

he probably didn't he's probably the kind of guy he's like he definitely didn't blame me at all but i still to this day and like dude he's just like he's an unbelievable human just you know when you that's the cool you don't want to let your picture down yeah then he goes in extra innings and gets those those six against the the nationals who were like the best team in the league they were like yeah seed yeah just shut them down for forever like we just kept not scoring he kept shutting He does six against the Nationals, who were like the best team in the league. They were like the one seed. Yeah. Just shut them down for forever. Like, we just kept not scoring. He kept shutting them down quietly.

You had a double in the 12th, I think it was. Yeah. A leadoff double. Is that a double? Got stranded. That must have been tough because you're like, this has been going on for so fucking long. I mean, that was like, once again, that was a whole team of pointers. Like, no one's ever like, you didn't get me in.

Like, everyone was just like, let's go. Let's go let's go next up next up that was just it when did you when did you know you guys were getting there after like when did you know did you know that you guys were gonna come up with this win or um did you or is it just kind of like like like i mean you're just so exhausted this is where i you know the whole new runner at second rule and the regular season i think is good because we play 162 and like it gets so hard to hit because the relievers are coming in fresh and you're just like exhausted and i just kept running up trying to eat bananas and like protein bars whatever but just like is there coffee brewing in the dugout yeah there's there's coffee there's water there's whatever but like there's nothing really bringing

you back from this. You're like dead. Like when Belt hit that homer, I was just so relieved because, yeah, I just had nothing in the tank. And by the way, I'm going to back up a little bit. After we beat the Pirates, I remember Huddy said this, and at the time I was like, oh, no, like you fed them. But like I think it actually got – it helped us a lot

because it kind of pissed off the nationals and then they were i felt like they were like trying a little bit harder but like whenever they asked huddy like his question they were like you know you're going up against the number one seed they won 100 and whatever games and like how does it feel going up up against them he's like yeah they're probably the more talented team but the playoffs is what's in between your legs and we was like oh i was drinking my bed like and like and like he's like i had to i had to show up when i pitched after i said that like i couldn't let you guys down you can't be the guy just like swinging so hard trying to hit homers like it just like it kind of like weirdly worked out for us yeah that's some jedi mind trick yeah

he felt bad about it we're like sorry honey like why did you do that but it's all right man so you guys you get mad when you give bulletin board material you don't ever want to give bulletin yeah and he didn't mean like if you know huddy he was probably just like you know he had one he was drinking he was pumped and he was just like you know because he was kind of the guys that just had you know just like had the guts had the balls and like fucking called him out well you guys officially have bigger dicks than the Nationals. Nah, I wouldn't say that. They ended up winning themselves one in 2019. I know, but this series you had bigger dicks.

We got it done. You know, sometimes it's your time. Yeah. That's pretty cool he said that. You didn't even know that, huh? No, that's fucking awesome. He's probably going to be mad that I brought it up. I'm sorry, hoodie. Nah, dude. Get it. Get's fucking awesome. He's probably going to be mad that I brought it up. I'm sorry, hoodie.

Nah, dude. Get it. Get it, dude. That's only going to make you cooler. A veteran doing that is pretty badass, too. I think that's pretty cool. So anyway, yeah. Basically, belt hits the homer.

We get that W. And then the other funny thing. Belt's got a belt. That's what that means. Belt's got a belt. I remember when they brought him up. He was farmed in the Giants, right? Belt? Yeah, yeah. I remember that. Where was he from? He's a Texas guy. belt's got a belt that's what that means i remember when they brought him up yeah wasn't he he was a farmer he was farmed in the giants right belt yeah yeah i remember where was he from he's a texas guy

yeah it's a university of texas they had a lot of hype he was like they hyped him up when they brought him up because i used to like i used to read here and there about you guys because we we're on the east coast you don't get it's fucking 12 o'clock when you guys come on you know what i mean so it's so tough and you guys go until one we got practice at seven it's pretty cool you followed us though because you know we always we always followed obviously we all as patriots runs were were legendary our our strength trainer is the biggest patriots fan of all time is he and and so like i love to like talk shit to him that's like my ultimate thing and like because like all he would do is like Brady, Brady, Brady's the greatest. He'd have these huge Patriots flags. And,

and honestly, I, I, at one point, like I used to like not root. I was like always rooting against y'all. Yeah. And at one point I was finally like,

you know what? This is freaking bad-ass what he's doing. And he get, he gave me like the TB12, like pliability. He's like, Hunter, are you working on your pliability,

man? You got, he would, Tom would hate the amount of coffee that you. Yeah. Does he never touch coffee he doesn't like caffeine it's bad for the muscle pliability oh it is very bad for the pliability oh okay babe all right he doesn't need tomatoes though well it's got an inflammation factor for his blood type

that cannot make his muscles pliable so i'm not even everything is i i there was like a what was it there was like a thing that he did that i watched where he was like getting on to you for lifting weights he's like why are you scared why are you lifting weights and you were like you don't have to take hits tom yeah you know like we'd always get so i would do a lot of the tb12 stuff because it's it's really good stuff if you you it. And with the soft tissue work, the diet work, but I would incorporate it. I wouldn't go balls deep. Yeah.

You know, like I'm doing this and this only because I had a different opinion on, you know, that specific issue. You know, I needed to have muscle mass on me because I'm an explosive athlete. I'm not taking seven, eight step drops and then delivering a football. Very hard. Can't do it. And they get murdered in the pocket i understand but when you're exploding in and out of cuts

like you got to work those kind of things and you know nothing like a squat squat is what ultimately works you the best and he would get so mad at me because it does leave you vulnerable to getting hurt in the weight room but you know got to do business as business is being done. Need that squat. Yeah, dude. That's why I got a sweet butt. So are you a no caffeine guy as well then? No, I drink caffeine.

No, we drink a lot of coffee. I drink coffee. Oh, dude, we got to be on. I like caffeine. Got to be on. We have a good guest like you here. We got to get to the bottom of this too, by the way. When you get traded from the Phillies,

they did a bobblehead night for Hunter Pence. Did they at least send you a bobblehead? Yeah, I got a couple of them. They still did it. It's like all the weirdest things happened to me. I don't know why. This is where the whole Hunter Pence signs, probably. But it's like I had a bobblehead day for a team I wasn't playing for.

I won the Roberto Clemente Award for the Giants after they released me. So I wasn't even on the won like the i won like the um what is it the roberto clemente award for the giants after they released me so i wasn't even on the team and got like the good guy award uh it was cool that's a cool conversation yeah interesting conversation with farhan he congratulated me super cool what would you name this game which the 18 inning and what i named that he has games with names we need it that. Y'all give games names? Oh, yeah. I mean, man. Like, I'm trying to think of some punch.

What was it? You said you and, was it Pablo Sandoval had something, an energy that you connected to? You said it like a couple seconds ago or a minute ago. Me and Peavy. Peavy? We would try to get like yeah we would try to use anything to mentally get edge and like and like rile everybody up so the mental edge game uh no no because like because belt like i remember

he hit that homer and it's like the bat was too hot like he just like i don't know i would just call it the belt dumper because he had his big big booty and he and like the only way you can hit a homer in the 18th inning that far is if you have a big dumper that's true that's where you're keeping the backside into it baby the belt dumper damn belt dumped on the belt dumper is a great name you win this game 18 innings is it from there on you guys are like this is a team of destiny we're going we're gonna do it well so now like obviously we threw bum gunner in the in the playing game so we're getting we won two in washington we're coming back to san francisco bums pitching game three we're all pumped there's like a a weird like bunt play or something and

buster calls to go to third bum throws it into you know left field and they score a couple runs we end up losing with bum pitching he always struggled didn't he always struggle throwing it to first or something was that him not really but i was like he was like the most he was like the most electric pitcher that was like deadly accurate could hit dingers and then like i remember was it him or was it someone else that they struggled throwing the ball to first i think that was affelt i felt yeah it was just like uh you know that's so crazy i felt could would like run it over to first because he just could not do that no bum was actually pretty good but it was like he needed to like make a like crazy play it was

like turn spin fire and he just and it's funny because the reason i bring this play up and i remember it because once again this is where like i really enjoyed this team and the camaraderie that we had he's like you know buster told you to throw at the third you know like well how do you feel about that call he's like well he didn't throw tell me to throw it into left field you know like and it's just like oh you know like it was fucking it's once again he pointed at himself he's like you know i threw it into left field i could have made the play and and i didn't and and but like he stayed calm we didn't panic and i was a great teammate bum gardener hearner. He was a pretty good teammate. Hell, yeah. He was a country bumpkin, wasn't he? He was crazy.

North Carolina or something? Wasn't he country? Oh, yeah. He's from North Carolina. I think it's North Carolina. I might be messing this up. I'm not sure if it's South Carolina. I don't know the difference.

But he would be pissed at me for not knowing that. In the World Series, he always came up big. Oh, yeah. He was a monster. And he could hit. Yeah. No, he could. I could hit.

It's embarrassing because he could hit the yeah no he could i could hit it's embarrassing because he like he could hit the ball farther than any of us and like he would like come in and pinch it and get like these clutch hits and we're just like how the hell do you do this like he wouldn't even practice he didn't he didn't take bp hardly i mean sometimes he would just to hit the homers because he was wanting to see how far he could hit it what a stud he's just like he was just a cowboy he cared more about being a cowboy than anything else you know like legit like he would be like roping like remember he went to arizona and was like on a horse and didn't he get hurt doing something like that a little bit i think a couple times like he got hurt doing uh biking he was doing some motor motor biking and he hadn't been

he hasn't been the same pitcher since he did that i I don't think. I don't know if that's the reason, but that sucked. That sucked. Man, it's awesome to have you in studio on Games with Names, telling us all these awesome stories, getting to know you and knowing the competitor and the optimistic kind of leader that you are. I didn't know you were like that necessarily. I always knew you were the fucking let's do it, but I didn't know you were like this. it's uh it's a pleasure having you on here man thanks for having me this

was great great stories appreciate you sam thank you all for having me thank you man you got any plugs you want anything um not really i mean i'm just happy to be here i mean my uh my wife would probably be like you know plugapple Labs. Pineapple Labs. She has a coffee company. I guess we do thepineapplelabs.com if you want to try some of our coffee. I can't wait to try it. We got to get some of that coffee in here. We'll send you some.

I want a bobblehead, and we're going to put a little shelf. The Phillies bobblehead? The Phillies one, and then I'm going to put a little SF Giants on there. Thank you. Hunter Pence, man. man energy he was great he's he's got like that just straight energetic optimistic everything is gonna be okay kind of attitude which you need i i you know i was not a pro athlete i would i think if i was i'd want that guy in my have to yeah because i was quite i wasn't the like he kept on saying i would i wasn't as bad as what he thought i was i would just be the guy to call people out if they

were you know not doing their shit yeah because if you don't you know you could say you're going to be in the moment all that all you want but if you're not doing a little shit you ain't gonna be in the moment yeah it has to be a dude who's an all-star like hunter pence to deliver that shit and i love the self-help aspect that he's talking therapy to a bunch of ball players like the upper west side jew and me is like dude this is speaking my language you know it's fantastic dude he i i couldn't believe the amount of coffee he he ingests a 10 a 10 cup on the way to more coffee to two two double espressos and then probably just potting it down that's a problem that is a caffeine problem dude he i his tolerance like he he probably chews caffeine gum in between like his coffees just to even feel anything well that's

what they're known for in san francisco tolerance very liberal people a lot of tolerance no he was a uh he was a clearly a coffee lunatic i've never heard of that i mean that's that's for an athlete does that know was anyone in your locker room doing that that much coffee i was doing like pre-workout drinks and stuff like i would hit a coffee but not like that here i would and then i would stop drinking coffee after like one or two because i couldn't sleep dude i do i was on the road last weekend and i'm so tired by the end of the day and so i have to do coffee to to get energized but you know some of these comedy clubs don't have coffee so i just in my rider i'm like i need cold brew in the fridge cold brew at 8 30 p.m i'm up till 6 30 in the at least i was like i was like i fucking hate myself we did we should have asked him is he

does he like cold brew cold brew is like crack dude that's it's not a good idea if you smell a cold brew in the morning i just instantly have to just empty every valve yeah i just i'm dumping for hours yeah it's fucking outrageous i mean this is called the the belt dump right the belt dumper the belt dumper it The belt dumper. It's appropriate. What's up, Jackie? Dan Campbell, noted coffee guy, one of our favorite guys. His morning coffee routine, two large iced coffees, four shots of espresso in each.

He looks like a guy that drinks coffee. I used to hit diners with Dave Attell, and it'd be like 4 a.m., and we'd be leaving, and he would order a large iced coffee to go, which I've never seen anything like in my life. he would get a iced coffee in the diner this big four in the morning and go to sleep all night with david tell yeah up all night insomnia that was it you know let's did we hit the prop jackie let's settle it we hit it we got it out of the way early i counted three we even got him to say it ky got it out of the way early. I counted three. We even got him to say it won't.

Kyler takes issue with the way you're scoring this, but I think the time said is the game. And then we went way over in the end anyway. Oh, yeah. He went back to it, right? Yeah. We don't make the rules. We just embrace them, bro.

Yeah. Actually, we do make them. We make them. We make them, too. What's the legacy for this game? The longest game ever in the history of the playoffs except for like one yeah up to this point it was the longest eight anyways yes hour wise no anyways it's still tied right yeah i got a little clarification on that one longest at the time

inning wise it is still tied now it is the second longest red sox dodgers game three of the 2018 world series 18 innings 7 hours 20 minutes heesh jesus christ that's too much way too much too much baseball uh it was a playoff game of attrition it was part of a world series run it's uh what's the lasting image for this lasting image is belt dumping one yeah for the homer taking one or took one yard right i guess i mean that's the lasting image and then it propels them to go on and win the world series i mean if you go in through if you go through an-inning game and you get out with the win, I can only imagine the confidence that's being brewed in the locker room, especially if Hunter Pence is in there, you know, giving them pregame speeches after.

And brewing coffee. Brewing coffee, brewing speeches. I mean, I think that was probably what slingshotted them for sure and this is you know a team that i think you gotta say they're a dynasty i know they won two years apart but it was 2010 when they won in four no they won three they won in 10 12 and this was 14 so that's what i'm saying 100 this is dynasty what's the rule for a dynasty because you've been a part of one it's three and seven years that make you a dynasty three and eight years i would call a team three and seven is a dynasty three and seven that's fair yeah i mean because that's a dynasty is just pure dominance and you're dominating the sport definitely i mean what we do we went 14 16 18 but then we went to we lost in 17 in the Super Bowl and then

we went we went far into the playoffs every every time so yeah we were definitely and so were the Giants Giants they were they were owning the MLB at this time yeah it was so it was so cool to see and I've said the Warriors are I think undoubtedly a Dude, San Francisco's had some dynasties now. Yeah. What a sports town. It's a sports town, man. They have cool teams to root for. I mean, the Niners are a cool team to root for.

We just haven't got one. There's no Sharks love. There's a big cult following of Sharks, Sharks fans out in the Bay now. Those colors. I love them. They're good colors. I had a shark parka when i was like did you in 95 they were like an expansion team expansion team i got it at like a

goodwill it was dope it was like five sizes too big i got to wear it for like five years it was amazing um well this is not exactly you know not this is not necessarily the exact game but these types of marathon games definitely contributed to the uh changing of the mlb extra innings rule i mean he even said in the interview he's like man i wish we would have had the guy on second rule because especially in the playoffs they gotta get ready for the next week they gotta go out and play that's such a disadvantage if you're if you're playing six and a half hours of baseball and then you have to get up and do it again. And especially if it's in like an E-limb game

and they got to go play a fresh team, that would be gnarly. That's tough. That's so tough. But it'd make the journey so much more fun if you went and won it all. Yeah. If you think about it. Well, they did. Yeah.

They did it. Jack, what did we forget? First off, Madison Bumgarnerarner hickory north carolina hunter couldn't remember where he was from um sam you were talking about tony romo taking that trip to cabo you were right the 2007 playoffs he and jessica simpson jason whitten was there too a wonderful jerry was there who knows uh the cowboys 13 and 3 went out the next week and lost to eli manning yeah well we all love jessica simpson here thanks for softening up romo and getting them ready to lose to my big blue wrecking crew here in new york we also talked about how uh legendary those hunter pence speeches were good news for you fans at home. You can get your own for $250 on Cameo.

Oh, you can? Yeah, Hunter Pence. Pence? Pence. On Cameo. $250. What's that rate? Is that a good rate?

Is that good? It's a little steep, I think. Is it steep? I'll have to get some comps. Let's get some comps, Jackie. Maybe we'll start a Cameo. Yeah, that's about it. Heck of an episode.

Let's name the game. The longest game. Yeah, that's about it. Heck of an episode. Let's name the game. The longest game? Nah, because it's not. Not anymore. 18 innings? Nah. Nah, because there's other 18 innings. The nap game.

The nap game. Was that Kyler? That's pretty good. It's not bad. You fully could have took like a two-hour nap. The two for one? I think it's the belt dumper. I think Pence deemed it the belt dumper.

Yes. It's gotta be the belt dumper. Yeah. I love that. That's actually, I'd say that's top. Sounds like what you do after you eat Taco Bell, but it still works.

Yeah. Let's score it. What are the stakes? The stakes are the playoffs. It's high. It's not world series, but it's not world series. Let's score it. What are the stakes? The stakes are the playoffs. It's high. It's not World Series, but it's NLDS. Not World Series. It's 7-5.

All right. That's fair. Right? Yeah. 8? I go 8 because it's NLDS. But they had two wins. They were up 2-0.

You think it's... I think 7-5. Oh, really? All right. Fine. So 7-5. 7-5. Star power um how many hall of famers in this game posey's a hall of famer isn't he let me check real quick hello bryce young bryce young bryce young bryce he's probably holly they always i love i love the giants i like the Brian Wilsons and the Bumgarner. Bumgarner had an unbelievable career.

Matty Kane, he was in there. I would say... Eight, eight-five? Seven, five. Seven-five? Are we doing this because it's baseball? Because I feel like there's a lot of World Series champs in here. There's a lot of names in here.

I think the fact that it's the MLB at this period is hurting the star power am i wrong i mean you're like socrates you know when we're wrong i don't know if that's are we being too harsh and star power yeah i mean tim hudson's a fucking star yeah he's not a Hall of Famer, but I think if he's on better teams. They had three. I mean, is Linscombe? Linscombe? Is Linscombe a Hall of Famer? Probably not because he didn't have the. Long, long. But he had three.

He had three. He had like a bunch of Cy Youngs. No, I mean, he was great. I just, I don't think he's in the Hall of. Did a long enough. Not yet, at least. Hudson just missed. He missed by a lot.

Yeah. He only got 12 votes that's doesn't look like anyone officially yet but there's some futures for sure all right eight eight eight three eight three eight three yeah gameplay i'm going low as shit i'm going like two five this gameplay stunk it's a defensive battle this shit was like ambi great pitches yeah uh name i mean it's it's a funny name so we have to get points for it's being a funny name but it's not an iconic name so i name i go like four five five eight five eight all right five eight gotta give the bay area boy the the nod. 5'8".

I mean, the belt dumper is a great name. But we're scoring it for humor, not for it being an epic name, right? So I respect 5'8 for it being funny. The total comes out to six. I think that's fair. It's not a World Series game. It's also just not. He made me think more of the game than I did before talking to him

because I felt his energy and I like that, but I just don't think it's... I do think we might be hard on stakes. I mean, 7-5 might be stingy. But not really. This is winner goes to the World Series. I guess it's not a decisive... It's not a Game 7.

It's not a Game 7. Okay, so then that is. And they were up 2-0. Fair enough. And we're talking to a footballer. Nah, they were up 1-0. They were up 1-0. They win this one.

They lose the next one. Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty fair. All right. Yeah, I hear you. We gave the Miracle in Morgantown a 7-5 also. Fair enough. Mike Vick, West Virginia. We gave Notre Dame TBT a 7-flat

gameplay-wise. Lakers-Celtics 2008 finals got a 7-5 also. On stakes? Yeah, on stakes. My bad. I said gameplay-wise. Wow. We're whack? Why are we whack?

7 for Lakers-Celtics? There's no way i gave it a seven if it's a lower score for basketball what game was it it was the wheelchair wheelchair game was what like game two the thing went to seven he is he is biased because he played in the nfl where every playoff game was winner go home so i i his bias. I just like to up the ante. I like to feel. I want to feel the heat. I want to feel the stress eating at the back of your neck.

I want to not be able to sleep the night before, do or die. I love it. I want to feel closed. Yeah. I want to feel closed. Yeah. I want to feel you. I want to feel you inside me, dude. Do you? No, but I was just getting fired up.

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