Games with Names - The David Andrews Episode
Episode Date: September 11, 2025David Andrews is in studio! The long-time Patriots center, Georgia Bulldog, and Super Bowl Champ is with us from The DUNKIN' Nuthouse in Boston to talk ball. We talk being a one team guy, his favorite... Gronk & Jules memories, and a whole lot more. David also picked a Dude he wanted to talk about: legendary Patriots Fullback James Develin. We find out what kind of dude David is using our patented Dude Questionnaire in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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He'd be like, I'd go get, me and Ernie could complete this route, whatever it would be, right?
Me and Ernie could punt the ball that far and Dante would just be in the back of the room, right?
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Today we are joined by our friend, an old teammate, two-time Super Bowl champ, Georgia
Bulldog, Aaron Donald's dad, host of the QuickSnap podcast, and the leader of the line of
our line, David Andrews.
Welcome to the show, bro.
That's sick.
Thanks for having to.
You know, what are you up to these days?
Retirement life?
A lot of retirement life, a lot of dad life, which has been super cool.
And then I got into golf, and that's kind of been, I do that a lot right now.
Something to challenge me.
I talk really bad to myself on the golf course, which I think is good for you.
You know, you need some, you know.
Kind of like happy at Gilmore?
Yeah, you know, I haven't found my happy place yet.
Have you seen number two yet?
I did.
Do you like it?
You get the surgery?
No, I need to get the surgery.
I need about four more surgeries, but no, it was good.
I mean, it was cheap laugh.
Nothing, like, dumb and dumber too.
Like, you know, it is.
It's never the first.
Yeah, you just hit it right on the money.
A cheap laugh, but you got to appreciate a cheap laugh.
I did.
I did.
I thought John Daly was hilarious.
Oh, so good.
Very good.
Yeah.
So retired life.
Yeah.
You know, I haven't missed it.
That's like the one question.
I want, like, do you miss it yet?
I don't know.
I haven't missed it at all.
I mean, you know, you miss the guys and there's nothing that we're
workplace putting your hands on a group like i love the physicality of the game like you know those
games we were in when you could feel a team break like that to me is the best feeling of the world
like you go out there and it's the middle of fourth quarter you're like these guys are done
they want nothing to do with us yeah and uh so i miss i'll miss that but you know i just i gave it all
i had and and did everything i could to try to be as successful as i could and walked away with
no regrets so all three of us right here in this room we're kind of on the lucky side of walking away
from the game of football because we all have a championship and that's what everyone strives for
him. And when you walk away from the game without a championship, you're always like, what if I
play another year? What if I go to a team that's a contender and win a championship? Because that's
what it's all about. So we're lucky to have that. And on top of it, we kind of all walked away on
our own terms as well. Yes, we were beat up. I mean, all of all three of us, we've had plenty of
surgeries. But you just had a wonderful career with the New England Patriots. And I'm sure you could
it went to another team as well.
But you kind of walked away on your own terms, and that feels good.
We're rare players to be able to do that.
You know, the percentage of players to do that is very minimal.
So it feels good.
So you don't really miss the game as much because you know you gave it.
You're all, like you said.
And to walk away with your head high, your chest up, you know, being proud of yourself
is always a good feeling.
So congratulations.
Thank you.
Undrafted Free Agent.
We'll get into you more when we break you down.
And another thing that we're all blessed on having with our retirement is having avenues to explore.
Yeah.
You're on QuickSnap podcast with Brian Hoyer.
How's that going?
Working with Hoy dog all day.
Yeah, you know, Hoy's great.
I had a great relationship with Hoy when he was here.
Obviously, the quarterback center, you know, I mean.
Touches your balls every player.
Yeah, you know, and me and Hoy, you know, he was here in 17, 18, obviously, when we were still successful.
And then he kind of, you know, hung around for some of the bad years, unlike some people I know.
Who?
You know, 12 and 9 bombs.
Me and Slate, you know, we really stuck it out trying to fight the good fight.
But, no, and so Hoy was there for some of that, which was funny to see, you know, just like his whole perspective because he was so at different places.
But getting to work with him, I've always thought Hoy had a great knowledge of the game.
and I think
us being able to see the game
very similar at times
and then, you know,
I think I'm excited this year
to talk about it
because one,
we did it last year
and it was kind of weird
because I was still playing.
Then I got hurt
and you know when you're hurt
you don't feel like
you're a part of the team.
Yeah, but I'm still part of the team
so you're like still in this like media,
Stacey James,
Bill Belichick trained media,
you know,
and you're like,
you don't work for them no more.
I know, but like last year,
you're still trained though.
You take that way.
No, last year I did, you know, so I'm, like, still in that mindset.
And so, like, this year, I think it's going to be cool to, you know, be able to talk without having that over your head, you know.
And look, I mean, at the end of the day, I'm still a fan of the organization.
Like, I'm still rooting for them.
I'm still seeing everything.
No matter what happens, glass half full, you know, but I think it will be interesting to, you know, having Josh back.
Obviously, we all played for Josh, know, that offense.
So, you know, you can kind of be able to see and give your point of view.
I will say there's been some, me and Hoy did a practice.
In stadium practice, we like commentated it all.
Josh's got some new wrinkles.
I think the year off last year was really good for him.
I talked to him and he did a lot of things.
So I'm interested to kind of see, you know, especially what he does with Drake because of Drake's skill set.
You know, he's got a little bit of both, like can move, you know, run, throw.
So, you know, I'm very interested to see kind of what Josh throws his wrinkles in this year.
the offensive line always has a special relationship with the quarterback because you guys are always working together going through blitz packages all that good stuff but there's even another level to the relationship with the center can you explain that quarterback you know center relationship and what it takes and how much you value it yeah i i don't know i played center since sixth grade and i played i only played o line since i started playing and then i started playing center and you know i uh i don't know i
I just, I've always had a great relate, like one of my best friends are still my high school
quarterback.
Like, I've always had a great relationship with those guys.
One, it's an intimate relationship.
Very intimate relationship.
Very, it's dudes on dudes.
It's, very, it's dudes on dudes.
We appreciate that.
Especially when you guys don't have, like, football pants on or something.
You guys, you can actually feel the, because I was a quarterback.
And the walkthrough.
You could feel lifting up a guy's ball sometimes.
Yeah.
When you put your hand under, when there's no, like, jocks or anything with the walk.
It's also dangerous game.
center if you're snapping without like some good compression because you you're you could rack
yourself yeah i forgot yeah and jules's quarterback too what was your relationship with the son
jules jules i remember was it 16 16 we were that thursday night game jules was playing quarterback
and this dude he took two snaps and tried to come tell me how to snap the football
i was like yo yo you give me up up in the middle bump yeah he was like i was a little and i was
like jules please stop hey in 2016 jules was telling everyone how to
to do everything.
But I don't know.
On and off the field.
Working with Tom, like, you know, he was so, he was so demanding.
And it was great for me because when I came in, I got a lot of early experience.
And, you know, he's on, I'm on day three install.
He's on day 10,000.
So, like, he was making checks, Rita calls.
I didn't even know what Rita was.
And, like, that pushed me.
And, I mean, you guys all know how Tom does.
Like, the way he pushes guys to get the best out of them.
and he's hard on you, but at the end of the day,
he knows he's doing it because he wants the best for you
and he cares for you.
And so that relationship with him and getting to work with him
was just really special.
And he threw me all.
I'll never forget in 2016 in Pittsburgh.
We came up to the line.
And, you know, he was making all the my points.
It was only my second year.
And he would get up to the line.
He's like, what do you want to do here?
And I, like, panicked because I was like,
he never asked anybody.
You know, he was running the show there.
He wants to see what you got.
Yeah.
And I was like,
on the spot i was like what you're comfortable yeah and i was it like shook me because he'd never
done that and you know it ended up working out we i think we went to gap versus uh versus a dime
front and uh you know it ended up working out pretty good but in coverage yeah it was uh it was a
it's a great relate there's nothing like the quarterback center relationship because you're one
giving him information he's relaying information back to you and then it's your job to relate it to
everyone else so occasion yeah so you know and then every now and then he's you know and then
he'd be in the meeting room and he'd mess something up and I'd have to take the fall
for it.
He'd just be sitting in his, you know, we all sat in the regular chairs and he had his office chair
and just be sitting there.
He'd be like, what do we do here?
And he wouldn't say anything and I'd have to take the fall for it.
But, you know, with a guy like that, you got to do that.
What's an easier task in life?
Communicating with Tom Brady or communicating with your wife?
I'm better at communicating with Tom Brady.
Yeah, she'll tell you that too.
Because Tom will yell at you more than your wife would yell at you as well.
Yeah, and louder too.
and embarrass you in front of everyone.
He does do that.
He's got a good way of that,
but I'd rather that than my wife.
Yeah.
Now, what do you think about this Will Campbell pick?
Have you watched him at all?
I have.
You know, so obviously you guys know Dante,
and I love Dante.
I still have a great relationship with Dante.
And I think, and I look at a lot of the guys
that we played with on the O line
and guys even before me, you know,
you had me, let's just go back to my ears.
Me, Shaq Mason.
right
smaller guy
shack was a smaller
guy
long arms though
yeah long arms
but no one thought
he was gonna be
like he never
passed blocked
yeah
great career
me undrafted
not all the great size
great career
Joe Tooney never played
tackle
he played all five positions
and then Scar came in
you're playing left guard
turned into an all pro left guard
so like
Hall of Famer
and then you go back to like
light
you got Dan Connolly
you've got
Windell
you've got
uh who neal you got neal yeah and then obviously i mean we can the list goes on yeah you got and then
obviously you got the guys like a logan mankins who's like everyone knew logan was going to be
california yeah now but like what's the common denominator
well there's one what dante dante and smart football players that's but at the end of the day
this is what i think right and then i look at like you jules like play quarterback slate like
we just got football players and that's the basis of
at all. And I look at guys on our team, like, you know, obviously, like, one thing I was
impressed with you, Rob, I had no idea what you were like as a player coming here.
I knew about your reputation. That was all over everywhere. But I had no idea how smart
of a football player you were in your understanding of the game. I just thought you ran routes,
got open, and you got the ball. But like, when I got here and got to know you and watched
how you did things, like, and I look at all the guys on those football teams, we just had
football players. So I think at the basis of any NFL pick,
yeah everybody there's fast and they're strong guys there's guys who can jump but if you can't play
football that don't matter none of that shit matters so i you know i look at will and there's a lot
of talk about it but i think when i look at him i think he's a football player and i think he has
football player qualities that you want and to me that's more important than height jumping and all
that obviously there are requirements for that stuff but you know you got to be a ball player and
I think this kid's a ball player, not only time will tell. And, you know, we'll see. I think
fans have to manage expectations with what's going on here. Yeah, but I also like having
Josh McDaniels there who can protect him. Josh is going to do things. Yeah, they can protect
him with chips and all these and how they call the game and when they call certain plays for certain
matchups. I think that's going to be huge. What people don't realize, you know, there's only one guy
that's been around Dante Scarnacchio for like 20 years. And that was like,
Josh McDaniels. So if anyone's going to be able to not be Dante, but be able to know
what to kind of say to these guys and develop them, hopefully it is Josh. Well, you know,
even watching that stadium practice, I was saying me and Hoy did, like you could see the way
Josh called games. Like we didn't go out there in the first play of the game. We're on 64
protection. No. And throw a seam and, you know, let's get the quarterback confidence. We got
we got everybody confident, right? Whether it was getting you the ball something quick,
getting James White, you know, or the running back, you know, getting you a little five-yard
route and it turns into 12, you know, that is how you do things. And then you set things up to now,
you know, all right, it's the middle of the third quarter. We've run, you know, 16-0, 15 times.
Now we're hitting counter hot. What's 16-0? That was single-back power, I think.
So single-back power to one side. Yeah. We've hit it a few times. Now let's give them the
counter. So basically, we're jabbing the whole time all game. You got to be patient with the jab,
jab. And then we hit the counter hot, counter hot. And it would be Gronk at 12 yards. The linebackers are at
three yards because they've seen power. And Gronk's now making seven safety. My favorite play ever.
So Will Campbell's going to be a good player. You think he's got the tangible, intangibles.
I think he's got the intangibles. Now, all the other stuff. What about another for Georgia guy?
You know what I mean? Is Jared Wilson kid? I've heard a lot. Third round. Yeah, I've heard a lot about
this kid. I don't know him. You know, it's funny. Has he contacted you? No, I was up there.
And I did see him and I spoke to them and, you know, tried to encourage him.
You know, so it's going to be interesting to see what they do.
I haven't got a good felt feel of watching practice, hearing reports of what they're doing offensive line.
You know, it seems like the center's kind of been a rotating position.
It seems like the right side settled.
You're going to have Big Mike when you're right guard.
Still there.
Mogan Moses at right tackle.
And then it kind of seems like center or left guard are kind of your two juggling spots.
Will's going to play left tackle, you know, what combination they're going to get to that.
I think the one thing that, you know, worries me is obviously in training camp, you got guys getting banged up.
There's going to be rotation.
You need to get some rotation.
But I felt like every training camp we went into, you knew who our starting five was.
Now, granted, maybe, you know, a tackle had to get a day off or was banged up for two weeks.
And then, you know, but you knew who the.
starting five was going into the season and but they're at ground zero right now they are
you know what i mean like this they're trying to install a whole new identity of a team a whole new
identity of like the schemes so like it's unfair for us to go in and and guys that were playing
in this same system on a freaking great football team to like say like well you know what i mean
because like we came in and it was a well-oiled machines already there was you know there was
There's interchangible pieces, but it was...
But they're still trying to find the nucleus of guys.
And going back to your point, a Will Campbell can be a nucleus guy that they draft
develop becomes a guy.
Jared Wilson can be.
I like the Trayvon Henderson kid.
That could be a core guy.
You got Drake made.
That's what you have to develop.
And then it'll turn into potentially what we were, like, as a well-o-o-o machine.
But they got to have some years together.
I got to figure out that starting lineup.
They didn't have one.
We had a starting lineup and we just interchange
like when you came in when Stork went out
like when Stork came in when other guy went out
but there were still three or four guys
that were there for well and I think
you know I look at our teams right
we had a lot of drafted guys
however they get undrafted drafted
like that had been there you know when I got there
Tom had been there so long Nate Marcus
Seabass Wendy you to you know
just offensively that's what it was
and then you had the you know like a Rex Burk had come in
for two or three years and not that Rex
wasn't a great team but he wasn't the nucleus guy
so you know I look at the team
right now it's very heavily
free agent and there's not a lot of
those nucleus guys right now of the past six
years they got to get they're at the point
where they got to make them yeah that's what I was talking
about earlier on a couple other shows
I bet on over the weeks is that yes
they upgraded this team you know
coach rable did a great job going to get the pieces
but he went to go get them in free agency there's not a nucleus
no like we were talking about that we had when we are there and that's what continues you know the championship runs so it's kind of up in the air not yet how this team is going to gel yeah it could either be great fantastic because all the free agents that they sign come together or it could be like in 2000 what was it 13 with the dream team the philadelphia eagles they signed all those all stars and then they went seven and nine that year and didn't even make the playoffs so it can go either way but in the end if you want to have a sustained success
and have playoff runs year after year.
You got to have that core group of guys, which we did,
which you were one of them, David, Julian, yourself, myself, obviously, Tom.
And that's what kept that, you know, decades of runs
of going to the playoffs and championships going.
And I think as a young guy coming in,
probably same for y'all,
because there was a different nucleus when y'all came versus you guys
were on the outside of the nucleus.
Then when I came, you were the nucleus.
Yes.
But all I wanted to do as a young guy was be accepted into that nucleus.
I feel like fucking Jimmy Neutron right now with all these news.
I know there's a lot of nuclear.
I don't know who said it.
We're just so smart.
Holy shit, Kim.
We're so smart right now.
But that's a special thing, I think, too, because it challenged me like, all right.
Like, what do I have to do to be in this group?
Is it getting there at 5.30 a.m.?
I'll be there.
What was the moment where you're like, yes, I'm part of this group?
They've accepted me.
When you're part of the nucleus.
Part of the nucleus.
I would say 2016.
2015, even though I started 11 games, I still felt like an outsider.
I was to say 2016, when I became the full-time starter and started just jelling with guys,
you know, I just felt like 15, I felt like I was just a temporary piece.
Yes.
You know, even though it was playing a lot, it didn't feel like I felt like any moment I could be sent home, you know.
And really in 16, I felt like, all right, like kind of took my role as trying to lead the offense the line.
And I think that was the year I really, like from Tom, from everybody.
that I just felt like, all right, I'm one of these guys now, you know, and I think that's really
special when a group of guys do that because then it challenges those young guys, because I looked
at, you know, all you guys, what were you guys doing? How were you doing stuff? All right, like,
I remember I used to get there at 530 because Seabas told me to, and like late in the year I was
exhausted. I'd put on film in the O-Line room and let it run, pause it at like 35 plays and go back
to the sleep room because I was just beat and exhausted. I sleep for 30 minutes. And so
If Seabas came in there, it looked like I had watched 35 plays on film, you know.
So explain to us the dynamic of the lineman room then.
Like when you first got there, explain who's the jokester, who's a serious guy, who's the asshole, was there an asshole, was there this guy?
Yeah.
How was Coach Scar and the whole thing?
Explain the dynamic of them.
So we had a big change from year one to year two for me.
Yeah.
You know, we drafted me, Shaq Mason, Trey Jackson, my rookie year.
still had guys like Josh Klein,
Debbie, Cam Fleming.
Josh Klein.
Full Flash.
Yeah, you had Marcus Cannon,
Seabass and Nate and Wendy
who were like your older statesman in the room.
Seabass and Wendy were assholes to me.
You know,
Seabass would just yell at me
in his German accent all the time
about like calling fronts.
And I'm like, dude,
cause he front!
Yeah, I'm like, dude, can you not see it?
Like, I'm just figuring this out, you know?
But like all that stuff, Wendy embarrassed.
me in front of the O-line room one day, like, pulled me up there and, like, asking me all
questions about a team we were going to play in the preseason. And you know that first
preseason game game, there's no preparation. No. So I had no game planning. Yeah, there's no game
planning. And so I had no idea. Was he doing it to make you better? Yes. Or was he doing it
was like a true asshole. No, he was, he was, it was an asshole moved by him. But it was
something like, oh shit, like this is real. Like I got to figure this out. Like I need to know,
I need to know all that. And I just, you know, in college, you don't, you just kind of go out there
play you know and i just had no idea the preparation it took to reach that level and so
what was canon canon was the good guy like canon i'll never forget marcus took me him and
Nate were both the good guys you know Nate was like jolly green giant yeah and like Marcus took
me one year which was really cool my rookie year you know you're stuck in the residence in you're
like kind of like just alone you know whatever and uh mark you know like the the i remember you know like
I remember the O line would go do stuff
And they didn't really invite the rookies, you know
But one year Marcus called me
They have the Patriot Alumni Fishing Tournament
So he's like, what are you doing this weekend?
I was like, nothing.
He's like, you want to go fishing?
And I was like, yeah, I'd love to, you know?
Like, he could have told me like,
do you want to go play croquet?
I just wanted to be invited.
Yeah.
So he was like, pick me up.
We go down to the Cape.
We go out that night.
He's like buying me drinks.
We had a long night.
I could barely fish.
Where did you guys go?
Some bar down on the Cape.
um falmouth i think and i mean it was just like i don't know it was like a really cool moment for me
as a young guy because i was like this is awesome because in college we all did that you know yeah
and it wasn't like that you know as much being a rookie uh and all those guys like nate see but
they all have kids and everything and um so you know that was really cool for me uh and then
Nate was just like the loving granddad of the room you know like it's going to be okay like
you know, stay positive.
Good-hearted person.
He's one of the best people I've ever met.
The guy, didn't he keep the Donald duck that we put?
I was not there for there.
I think he kept that duck.
That was like a couple years before I got there.
And like he feeds it and it still comes to his house.
And you see the big ass Nate soldier like feeding this little duck daily.
I remember he had a pet duck that like he didn't, but he didn't like.
He might did because he had a palm behind his house.
Yeah, he had a pet duck.
So he, but yeah, I mean, it was a really.
And then the next year, you know, was really.
really where it felt like there was a big turnover with like Joe Tuny and Ted
Karras coming in. So, and that was kind of, and then it was kind of like, that's our
offensive line. Nate, Joe, me, Shaq, Marcus. And then the rest was kind of history. We went
on the run. Yeah. Before we get going on and moving on, can you give us your best Dante
Skarnakia story? Like, because we always, we don't understand Scar as other position. Yeah.
Because Scar was like the nicest human being to anyone he didn't coach. I
apparently i thought he was like the coolest dude ever me too scy i would come up to me all the time
he would come up to me he'd be like hey gronk he goes i know you you don't seem appreciated around here
but let me tell you this this organization you're helping it move forward and we love that
keep it going and i like walk away i'm like is dante fucking with me like he was like because he's i see
him always just absolutely scolding his line man and then he just gives me a compliment in the hallway
i'm like i'm like i love this guy but is he messing with me so
So a couple things real quick.
So Dante would yell at you for taking notes, but you felt like you should take notes.
And so Teddy, Teddy was always taking notes.
Teddy Karras.
Teddy Karras was always taking notes.
And so he's like yelling at Ted one day.
Ted's like writing stuff down, you know?
And he's like, hey, Ted, why don't you write this down?
I fucking suck or something like that.
That was in all time.
It's like Ted was the best, dude.
What did say?
I think he did write it down.
Ted told me one day
He had all of Dante's sayings wrote down
And I need to get a photocopy of that
But that one was great
One year
2019
You know that was an up and down year
I was not playing
Marcus again
We had a real
The old line room was a lot of turnover
It was just a turmoil year
And Dante was going through it
You could tell he was tired
You know three straight Super Bowls
Like he was just drained
so one day he's like giving it to him pretty good and like I said there's a lot of new guys in
the room and he kind of like takes a deep breath lays his glasses down on the desk he goes you know
what I've said a lot of messed up things to you all over the year and me and me and James Farrant
she's sitting next to each other and James like tapping me he's like dude he's going to apologize
to us he's like I've said a lot of crazy things to you all over the years
fuck it can't change it now and just went right back into it that was a great one that was a great one
And then I used to always love, the favorite thing Dante used to do to me,
you know, Bill would like, if Rob, if you drop like a slant route, right?
He'd be like, I'd go get, me and Ernie could complete this route or whatever it would be, right?
The high school Foxborough team can catch that pass.
All the stories of Bill, me and Ernie could punt the ball that far.
And Dante would just be in the back of the room, right, like laid down like this.
And you just hear, no, you can't, Bill.
I used to love that because no one said anything.
you know we're all getting cussed out and like you know bill and ernie couldn't throw a five-yard
out route but like you're not going to say that and then dante's just like no you can't bill
i used to love when dante do that he's kind of like the the uncle that always put his arm around
you when things are going right that used to like beat his kids you know what i mean like but
loved his kids it was doing it for the right reason no i mean they were they were the sickest kids
in the block i'll never forget i never forget i never
forget, like, you know, we did the, what was, what did we call the meetings on the by week,
not exit meetings, but like, remember they would like sometimes do like one-on-one meetings
with your position coach. Oh, yeah, it was your positional coach before training, like after
training camp or on a buy, buy week. Yeah. It's like your scouting or your self-scout.
Self-scout, yeah. So, you know, we're doing that. And he calls me in. And I'm like,
oh, my God, he's about to have every penalty, every flag, whatever, every bad block.
Like, this is about to be 15 minutes of hell.
before I'm trying to cut loose for four days.
And he calls me in and there's like a chair like very close, like how close they're sitting.
And like, I'm like, oh, this is going to be so personal.
And he's like, how you doing, man?
And I was like, I'm good.
He's like, how's your wife?
Like, how's everything at home?
And it really caught me off guard because we didn't talk one thing about football.
And I think that's the perfect example of Dante.
Like, he was so hard on us.
He didn't need to sit down and have a one-on-one ass to him with us.
he needed to like let us know like and it was like hey you're doing a good job keep going like you know enjoy this week or you know three days that bill would give us enjoy that let's come back we got a strong push to make or whatever it was and I don't know just for him to like check in on me how I was doing how things were at home because that that can affect you like if things aren't good at home in the NFL like you carry that shit into work and it can affect you so I don't know I just think that was like the perfect example of what Dante was he cared about us at a true level you know
It's kind of like when your dad, like, you know, one day sits down with you and, like, opens a beer with you.
And you're like, oh, wow.
Like, I thought I was about to get chewed out here.
You know, like it was like a moment.
I'm a man.
Yeah, it was like a moment like that.
That was like, all right, Dante's the real deal.
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All right, last one more thing, because you're great.
storytelling. So we got kind of the dynamic of how the linemen are. How did the linemen celebrate
in comparison to like when, like there's a lineman float when we were at parades. You guys,
we always saw the gronk float. You see the receiver float. Like, how did the lineman take all the
fun? And what did you guys like, were you guys, explain the lineman dynamic of how you celebrate?
So was it 2016 when Bill like made the whole stink?
about like no drinking on the plane anymore.
Remember that?
Because there was something that happened in training camp.
It was like...
It was about every year.
Yeah, but like he was like, we're cutting down.
No more boot.
Like, you know, we're not doing all this.
So the first year at the...
Look at DA.
At the young DA with college in his face.
Yeah, that was 18.
That was probably my favorite parade because I had one under my belt and I knew what we
were doing at that point.
But 16, we get on the bus and everyone's like, where's the beers?
Like, coming to me, I'm like, I didn't know we could, we could bring beers.
Like, that's okay now?
And so, you know, I had no idea.
So at 18, I was stocked.
I had stuff for mimosis for the wives.
I had beers.
I had fireball.
I had it all.
18, we had a blast.
That picture's from 18.
And it was all of us sitting.
We had one of the flatbeds.
And we all sat on like they had the generators.
And we all set on the generators together.
And, you know, me, Shaq and Joe.
And it was just like, I don't know.
But at the time, we didn't think it would be the last one.
you know you just we took them for granted i think i i think especially me because i came in
a fc championship and then three straight i was just like no one's stopping us it's absurd we're just
going to do this shit every year we might not win but we're going yeah and that was my mindset as
well every year but that 18 we had remember the dilly dilly commercials yeah we had dilly dilly
the guy on the boat oh shit float or whatever the flatbed so we get on there we're like oh my god
we got the bud light float like there's got the bud light float like there's got
to be thousands of bud lights on this we get there they didn't have one beer they had the dilly
dilly bud light guy not one beer the nights you know they used to have the nights they didn't have
one bud light on the boat that one that one drove me insane but you don't really need to bring
alcohol because you got to keep your head on a swivel I've never had to try to catch more things you got
fans chucking freaking 15 beers at you at one time if you're not paying attention you can get
drilled right in the head which happened to me a couple times on that float in 2018 yeah and then I
think we went to uh we went to mastros like open the restaurant for the old line and we had like
lunch and mastros and then i think i ended up in bejoo that night and they handed me an ace of spades
bottle i was so drunk i couldn't figure out how to open it and i ripped the cork off the cork was just
stuck in this like i don't even thousands of dollar bottle of asa spades and everyone was just like
stared at me and i was like i'll get it out with my pocket knife they were like please don't
pull your pocket knife out um so you know it was uh there's nothing like the parades man that's probably
I think my favorite part of winning is the ring ceremony, though.
Parades are awesome, but the ring ceremonies when it's just us, nothing like it.
Well, talking about the 2018 parade, what about the game when you were going up against
when you're going up against Aaron Donald?
What was it like blocking him one of the greatest defense alignment to ever play?
And you held your own.
You were one of the reasons why we won that game because we took care of business in the trenches.
Well, I'll never forget, you know, really, and to give someone else's flowers,
Joe Tooney deserves from that game.
because we had such a great game plan going in.
You know, we were really good at running the football that year,
and that opened up our play actions to get guys like you two open, right?
And a lot of times when you're running play actions,
sometimes that creates one-on-one blocking and some bad advantages,
especially as an O-Lignment because you want to try to be aggressive.
But sell run.
Yeah, sell the run because that can help you.
But then Aaron Donald's such a problem.
So we had it schemed up where Josh was doing so great about the formations,
where we were putting Aaron.
You know, we didn't want him backside on some plays,
which you would think, but that could cause some problems.
You know, we wanted in front side.
So Josh did a great job.
And we had a lot of our plays where we weren't,
and they, on their base defense, they ran like an underfront.
And so that would create one-on-ones on the back side.
So Josh was like, we're not doing that.
And I think we remember we came out and we found out
they weren't matching the personnel group.
It was matched off the running back.
So that, like, last drive when we hit you, you know, for the scene, it was all who was at the running back.
So if it was Rex in the game, they'd put sub.
We'd run the ball.
Then when Sony came in, it was B-Based, we'd start throwing the ball.
So it was like an interesting adjustment we made during the game.
But I remember one drive, it might have been the drive we went on to score on the Sony touchdown after your play.
We called, like, a 435 lead.
And we said we weren't going to call it because I put Joe Tunney.
one-on-one with Aaron Donald and Josh came up to us at the old line. He goes, look, I know
we said we're not doing this, but we're going to do it because this is going to be a big play
for us. We did it. I think that started the drive to you. And then, you know, we just started
eating them alive that drive because we kind of got in a groove. And I just, I don't know,
I look at that game and it was just up front. Everybody got their turn against Aaron. You know,
it wasn't one guy. I didn't get my turn one time. That dude lined up everywhere. He was a
detackly. He was a DM. When he lined up against Aaron, you know, he lined up against him. I
lined up against me.
I was like, oh, shit, my turn.
But I held my own.
I had help.
I think one of my favorite pictures on your big play, it's off five.
It was a five-man front, so everyone's one-on-one.
And I don't know.
It's just, it's cool to see because it wasn't like, you know, one guy's getting double.
We all had to hold up our weight against, you know, they had a great D-lined.
And, you know, it's just, that's what we trained for.
That's what we did.
And, you know, everyone pulled their weight that game.
And I know people talk about hating it.
I think that's probably one of my favorite Super Bowls.
Just because it was such a grind.
Like, every team was moving the ball.
But it was all about field position and different things.
Just no one was scoring.
No one was scoring.
But there was a lot of yards.
I mean, how many yards do you have, Jules?
Yeah, 150.
Yeah, 150 yards, no touch net.
Like, that's a lot of yards to not score, I feel like.
So it was one of those games where it was just so interesting.
but it was just it was a lot of adjustments in game which i didn't feel like we made in
Atlanta like i don't think there was a lot of adjustments we just weren't playing good so that part
of it was really fun to me man that's that's crazy i mean you're going to get to tell your kids
he's going to go down his probably top five player on defense of all time my son started asking
about like tom and stuff which is like that's got to be fun we went i took him to the statue and
and tom was like can i hold you and my son was like no
I was like, buddy, you're going to regret that one day, you know, like, I'll, Tom, you can hold me, you know, but so that's really cool, like, because he doesn't understand that, yeah, but like, you know, you have pictures with the greatest person to ever play this game. I know. So, like, I hold your boy. He's four. Four. He's getting, he's getting two more years. He'll know. Yeah, he started asking. He'll be regretting it. Like, he was asking questions on who his jersey was, why he was in there. And then, like, we saw something the other day. He's like, that's Tom Brady. I'm like, all right, good job. Here we go. TV. He's coming along, baby.
Now it's time for Duncan dudes presented by Duncan.
This is a segment where we determine which type of donut best represents our guest.
We know your son's probably a little munchkin.
My son would eat about every one of these donuts.
But give me those donuts.
Before we get out the David's dude, we have to find out what kind of donut David is.
What's your favorite sweet flavor?
Well, first off, it's not necessarily what type of donut you like.
we're going to determine what type of donut you are.
Okay.
So which donut do you like?
What's your favorite, like sweet taste?
Oh, man.
Like.
Are you a sweet guy?
Rob.
You're everything guy.
I already know what I think he is.
I do like cinnamon and stuff like that.
Like I love carrot cake.
But you got to have the frosting matters on the carrot cake, correct?
It does matter.
And I want no fruit.
no, no pineapple. No fruit. No pineapple. In my carrot cake. But I also love, I love like simple
flavors. Like I'm a simple guy. I don't want something exotic. It's easy. I know what you are.
I already know what you are too. I think you're old-fashioned. I love cake donuts. Or then I think
you're more of a glazed stick, a glazed stick. You know, I don't, I don't hate the
And you stick it to the fenders on the defensive line.
Y'all probably don't ever eat these.
But growing up, I'd eat the glazed sticks from the gas station.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, so you'd go to the gas station and get those glazed donuts.
Like going hunting in high school?
Yes.
Like a honey bun or a glazed donut stick and a chocolate milk.
Oh, and you like, you like, yeah, you like cinnamon roll?
We don't have one of those.
Yeah, I like the cimmer roll.
If I was going to go there, I probably go old fashion.
You should take a nice bite of this old fashioned.
That might be a pumpkin.
Old fashioned.
I agree you're not you're not like a flashy player out in the field you just get the job done it's not like oh there's
there's david andrews out there looking all swaggy you know but it's look at david andrews he's just
just absolutely dominating the defenders doing what he's told and that's an old fashion for you baby
got his big ass towel on his back oh my ass towel sweaty hands are you an old fashion drink guy as well
i'll just drink beer um crom ginger yeah all right
All right, let's jump in.
Nice and simple.
Today, we're letting David pick this episode's dude.
Who's the dude, Rob?
Let's get the AI.
Mm-hmm.
Where's the AI?
Oh, AI.
What's the AI?
I don't know who David Pick.
Let's see.
Let's see who he picks.
On every episode, we do a synopsis.
Is chat DBT?
Yeah, nope.
We don't know.
We don't know what chat it is.
No, just an AI out there.
It's chat, Jack.
It's just out there, you know.
but we do a little reveal
of who we're going to be talking about
who we're going to be breaking down
and the player that you picked today.
So here we go.
Standing 6'4 3 and weighing 255 pounds.
This undrafted fullback
carved out a hard-nosed NFL career
built on grit and versatility.
He grew up in Pennsylvania
starred at Boyertown High School
where he earned all league honors
as a linebacker and went on
to play defensive line at Brown University.
Smart guy.
earning all IVIV league recognition he was a smart guy just tell you that i shared a room with
him my whole career very very smart i don't think he ever made a mistake well let's get back to this
in the pros he switched to fullback becoming a pro bowler and three-time super bowl champion
he is widely regarded as one of the premier fullbacks of all time ladies and gentlemen james
devlin let's get on james devlin we got to ask you why james
James Devlin.
I picked James one because I think he did all the dirty work and didn't get a lot of the credit.
And that's a fullback kind of like, and I feel like fullbacks, you know, no offense, Rob.
I do think you were kind of an honorary offense alignment the way you blocked, but you also made a lot of big plays.
Fullbacks don't make the place.
And so you really are an honorary offense alignment.
And this guy just, how he approached everything, I used to be my favorite thing watching him work out.
And then we became really close in 2019.
What is it?
Remember James Devin was just bringing the smell of the salts?
I needed a little pick.
I remember one day I was done with my workout.
You know they're illegal now?
They're not illegal.
They just can't be given to you by the team.
Oh, that's strong.
That's what James Devinelon used to do in the room all day.
Waking up my sinuses.
Give you a little shot of life.
But yeah, no, I mean, just the way.
We're passing it on.
Everyone did everything.
Way he attacked the weight room, way he attacked his career.
And I didn't really know how he got there.
When I got there in 15, didn't know him that well.
He broke his ankle, remember, or leg in Carolina preseason three.
So he was hurt all year, had surgery.
So I just didn't know him.
And, you know, and then 2016, he was obviously back and I was watching him.
And I'm just like, dude, this dude's a psychopath.
And then he actually ended up being my neighbor, which was awesome.
And he had a family.
I didn't have kids yet.
but his boys I love playing with his boys in the yard and it was just like I don't know it was
awesome to see him as like a dad and them wrestling and playing and then in 2019 we both were hurt
that year and we trained together and that was probably the dumbest thing I ever decided to do why
this dude the workouts this dude would come up with so like you guys doing your own thing we train
at like 5 a.m we did crazy things and but we both like couldn't because I had the blood clot so like
my training was weird he had a neck thing so he couldn't lift heavy so we were just doing like
weird workouts but like we do one in the morning and then after lunch or like break time before
practice he's all getting ready he'd be like all right we're going to do a 30 minute shadow boxing
lesson in the shower in the shower shower sauna sauna much to say whoa probably that would have
been back but but he would be like we're going to do a 30 minute lesson in the shower and then
we're going to go run 30 heels.
I'd be like, dude, I was dying trying to keep up with this guy.
But it was super fun for me because I didn't have anything to challenge me that year.
So, and just the way the dude cracked skulls.
Like, there was nothing like it.
Nothing.
Just laid it on the line each week for us.
And my favorite thing would be, like, if we, you know, we'd sometimes start in, like, 21 personnel.
And then we'd break the five wide and go to, like, 74.
And, like, two times a year, like, they wouldn't cover him.
or they just like play off and he catch like an eight yard hitch route i used to love that
that used to get me so fired up but uh he just he's everything you'd want a football player
and everything more importantly you want in a fullback and in a teammate yes 100% he was a great
teammate and i had no idea how he got to the league until i got to know him yeah you know because
you just you feel like when you come to the NFL like it's like yeah everyone's drafted you know
and that's not always the case and so when
I started to get to know him, learned, you know, went to Brown, played D in there,
then went to the Arena League.
I think he played in the UFL, then to Sensey, and then came to New England and then made a great career in New England.
I mean, that's how, you know, talk about taking advantage of your opportunities.
That was something I was trying to do, my rookie year.
Like, he lived it all, did it all.
You know, and people are like, oh, yeah, you were undrafted.
I'm like, yeah, it was not as much of a grind as, like, someone like this guy.
AFL, UFL, what was that for a year?
And with the dying position at fullback as well.
I shared a room with James Devlin, his whole entire career with New England.
He was one of the most unselfish players I've ever been around.
What do you mean?
He shared a room with him.
I mean, I was in the tight end room.
Oh, he was a fullback, but he was in the tight end room.
Didn't you live together?
No, no, we never lived together.
But we were in the same meeting room from morning to night in every single meeting
room. It would start off with the tight ends and we would go in the offensive room to be with,
you know, the wide receivers, with the skill players, and then we would be together in the team
room. It was James Devlin and I in every single room, his whole entire career. And he was the
most unselfish player out there, one of the smartest players as well. I don't think he's rarely
ever made a mistake in his career. He's never went to the wrong guy. And for example, if I went to the
wrong guy, if I went up to the second level and I took the wrong linebacker, he would make
me right and make me look good and I always appreciated that in the room as well he never caused
any controversy ever zero at all one of the best teammates you can possibly have and he also made me
a better player as well when you were talking about it yeah I blocked but then I also I got the credit
for going out and making a big play but where did I make all my money I made all my money in the
play action game and that's when I got the most open because all the linebackers
would step up and then Tom would just dip it to me and then I would just make a couple guys
miss and get 25 yards bam right off the bat like that why was I so open yes I was blocking you guys
were doing your job as well but when you have a fullback in the game as well that you got a
you know you got to respect that you know he's going to bring the heat every single time he's in there
and he's going to run full speed downhill and give it his all and lay his body on the line every
time you respect that so every time they would say oh James
Devlin's in it's going to be a run you know yeah why wouldn't they run the ball one of the
best fullbacks in the league and boom we would play action off of that but he would still go full
speed downhill and it would get me open because the linebackers were nervous that he was in so
without James Devlin in you know it like it boosted my stats in the past game because of him
and how hard he went and how good he was at the full I think you know as a old lineman we ran a lot
of inside lead plays with James right like him mono imano with the linebacker
and I used to always love, and it's not like you could, it's hard to explain, you guys will
know what I mean, but like when you can fill people around you. Yeah. So we run, it'd be
agap to agap run. So a lot of times I'm at the opponent of attack, you would feel like a good
block, and then you could feel James going by you, and you knew the play was going to be a good play.
Yeah, you knew the play was going to be a good play. You just felt him because you knew he was going
to go stick that linebacker, and it was going to be a good play. And then honestly, I felt invincible
on the goal line with James Devlin.
If we did our job,
there was no worry about what was going to happen
with James Devlin and the linebacker.
Which, you know, that and that,
to me, it's a missing part of the game
in the NFL right now.
And I do think you're seeing it come back a little bit.
Like, they're maybe more tight-inish,
but like I think San Diego last year
had like two dudes that were like 350.
Baltimore.
We've seen Baltimore do it a little bit.
Like, it's coming back that these fullbacks
and their,
they're valuable in the run game because it creates mismatches.
And I don't know, just you see a guy in a three-point stance in the backfield ready to go.
It's just like, it's go time now.
And as offense alignment, I didn't mind sub runs, but if we were going to run the ball,
I wanted to have a fullback because it creates, especially as an offense alignment,
when you can put a off our defense and base defense, there's not much they can do.
And there's not much they can do coverage-wise.
there's not much they can do disguise-wise.
So I think it helped out you guys too.
One thousand percent.
You know what I mean?
You can't run all these substituted fronts with a fullback in the game.
There's countless times where because we had such smart football players, James Devlin,
where we would be in a two tight, three-tight personnel, put him out wide,
and it creates such crazy matchups for the two receivers on the field.
So he was just a smart football player that,
Everyone loved. He was never heard. He was always seen. And I remember when he moved on and he
retired, I told Yock. I said, hey, bro, go sit down and watch fucking James Devlin. I want you to watch
every hit this guy does. He looks like he's concussioning himself every time he hits. And that's
how it has to look if you want to be a fucking foolback in this league. I'm sorry. You can't have
brain cells. You need to set the tempo for the fucking offense because when James Devlin
got on that field, people knew it was serious time. Anyone can kind of go in and run full speed
at a defender one time and then you walk away like, oh shit. I ain't ever doing that again. He was
consistent on a daily basis. He never backed down no matter what. Even if he was feeling, even if he was
feeling shitty that day. He was running full speed downhill and absolutely smacking whatever linebacker
was he never backed down and that's what made him such a great football player at that position is
never ever ever backing down you know what used to piss me all so we used to do half line right half line
was a war they never put a foolback in half line and i would just be like half line please let him get
one rep and watch what happens right now when we don't have to worry about this linebacker watch
what happens when james devlin walks in there all right we got to wrap this and determine what kind
of dude james devlin is but before that last question what kind of car is james devlin what
kind of car um you know i'm not going to say he's like an old farm truck because i think he's a
better athlete than that um but he's like a he's like a nice ford f1 i'm a ford guy so i'm
going to do this like a four-year-old f-150 80 000 miles on it still in good shape
like always dependable but like not like flashy like not a truck you're like worried about
taken in the mud, you know, can get dirty, but you can also take your girl out on a date
clean it up with. It's got a little bit of style to it. But, like, also, you're not worried
about if you go out in the woods with it. I might have to alter it a little bit. You're just
saying he's an F-150. I think he might be like an F-350. That's a lineman, though. He's probably
like an F-250. Yeah, F-250. We'll get it two. He weighed 250 pounds. All right. That's a, that's a
F-250.
Yeah, but still, like, yeah, you could hook it.
But not extended cab, he's not that big.
No, you can hook a trailer to it, but you can also take it out.
That motherfucker could pull.
Strong as can be.
My favorite James Devlin story, and this is not football related, but this is just who he was.
He was running the marathon, like, after he retired.
And so we're talking, he was a huge dude.
Y'all know how he squatted and weight lifted.
We were like, James, are you training?
And he's like, yeah, yeah.
And we're like, what are you doing?
You know, like, because all these people have all these crazy training.
You know, right?
It's like you run 5, 8, 12, whatever it is.
The day before, you run like 19 miles.
So we're like, you train and he's like, yeah, like, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm training
a little bit, but I'm just still lifting.
The dude we found out didn't train at all for the marathon.
Didn't run at all and just went out there and crushed the marathon.
And that's James, definitely.
And just like, I can do it.
Mind over matter.
Doesn't matter.
I'm going to get the job done.
All right.
All right.
I like that.
And so that segue is perfect to what kind of dude is James Devlin.
Now, David, we have five different categories.
We have a stud, someone who's had the pedigree, who was always the guy, he's well-rounded.
When you see him, he looks like, damn, that guy's a fucking stud.
You got a freak where you look at those kind of humans.
You're like, they're not humans.
They are just like, what the hell is that?
That looks like an animal.
A dog, someone who's relentless, mentally, physically tough, probably had to go the long road, a whiz.
who's, you know, innovative. He's clutch. He may have revolutionized something in his type of
the game or the dude's dude, which is the guy who's a glue guy in the locker room. Everyone
loves him in the locker room. Now, James Devlin is probably multiple of these. Yeah, I was about
say, I think he's... But what's most fitting for James Depplin? There's three that I would be in between
the stud, the dog, and the dude. Because I thought he was a great locker room guy.
like he just he was always there dependable he was all he never got too high too low you know so
he's calm cool collective positive attitude like i think when you went and worked out in the
weight room with james you wanted to go harder yeah right you wanted to train harder um you know but
i think i you got to go the position he played how he played the position the his way his career
path went you got to say dog he's definitely a hundred percent dog he's a one thousand
he's a stud he's a freak but the thing is the stud is the guy who's drafted in the first round
the stud is the guy who was the the five star and i don't think i don't think he innovated the game
what i think he did is honored the game and played the game the right way by like the people
that came before him so like he wasn't innovative in that sense but he honored those guys because
the fullback had been around for a hundred years right whatever but like he honored those guys
the way he played the game. He was an old school
1980, 70
fullback, but, you know, innovation
wise, no, but, you know,
that also... He was a D-Lyman. Yeah.
He went to Brown.
He innovated... He's too smart to be a football player.
No, he's a fucking dog. On three, one,
two, three. Dog.
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now we have a series of questions that we have on our in our notebook that we like to ask to figure out what type of dude you are you get out what type of dude all right um some beer is pretty good podcast let's start it off with an an easy one do you wear flip flops in the shower no bare foot athlete's foot never had it no sandals who's the most famous person in your phone
Besides Tom.
Besides Tom.
That's a gimmy.
Kenny Chesney.
Kenny, Chesney.
Kenny, no shoes.
Kenny, no shoes.
No shirt.
No problems.
No problems.
No shoes in the shower, doll.
Okay.
There we go.
All right.
All right.
It makes sense.
What sports you play in high school?
I quit everything my freshman year, but I wrestled and played the cross my freshman year.
But you played them.
freshman year and then you quit them yeah just football why i needed to work out i i always was a problem
of gaining weight yeah um so i needed to work out and train and going from football straight into
wrestling straight into lacrosse like after wrestling i'd lose a bunch of weight because of the
conditioning and everything like that that i knew lacrosse wasn't going to take me anywhere i was a good
wrestler. I wasn't great. And I love football. And I wanted to put everything in football and see where
it took me. Okay. Well, we know you're, you love physicality because the common denominator of all
those sports is being physical. Yeah, I quit baseball. I quit baseball because I saw you could hit people
in lacrosse. Okay. How many college offers did you get? Uh, four. Four. When to Georgia
from? What were the four schools? Vanderbilt, uh, Michigan. Uh,
Duke and Georgia.
Man, usually when you only have four scholarships
and you go to like the University of Georgia,
it's like three MAC programs and then you got lucky
to get like that scholarship offer to Georgia.
You had like four big time programs.
Yeah, I was like how did you have four big time programs
but no other offers?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
He had two big time programs.
We're not putting Duke and Sandy
in the goddamn big time football program.
Okay, yeah, but Vandis, yeah, two.
Two, yeah.
Those are smart schools, though.
I did when Georgia, Georgia offered me four days after I got my first offer, and I told my high school coach, I don't want to talk to anyone else.
Well, what would your college GPA?
Because that might understand why you had the office in Duke and Vanderbilt.
High school, high school.
You're a high school.
I think I was like, yeah, your high school.
I think I was like three, two.
Three two college.
High school.
I think I was about three, three one in college.
Three, three one smart.
Why was Duke and Vanderbilt coming after?
What was your SAT?
Yeah.
SAT.
I had a 3-2 at one point.
When I took the SAT, I only had to get, because of my GPA, 800, to get into Georgia.
And my dad told me, if I didn't get above 1,000, I was going to have to take it again.
So I made 1,200.
So, 1,200, was that out of the 1,600 or the 2,400?
16.
You didn't have the written.
I did have the written, but that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, the written was just kind of starting when I took it.
So, like, they gave you both scores, written.
So you could submit if your written score helped you.
Yeah.
You could submit that or if it was better without the reading, you could submit that.
Okay.
Yeah.
A little fun fact, I had like 730 in the math section of the SAT.
And then I had like 210 in the reading section.
So my.
Good with numbers.
7.30.
Yeah.
In the math portion.
That's really, that's pretty good.
Mm-hmm.
What's that 800?
Yeah.
But then I only had like an 850 total.
So it wasn't that good in the end.
That was like I just had to get 800 with my GPS.
It was what Georgia told me.
What's your go-to favorite ice cream flavor?
I'm an ice cream guy.
Ice cream guy.
I wouldn't say cookies and cream because I don't like how soft the cookies are in it.
If I was going to choose, though, like an Oreo blizzard when the crunchy Oreos in it.
Crunchy.
Likes a little grit in it.
So like the Oreos put into the blizzard, like right on the spot.
Yeah, because when you get like Oreo ice cream, you know, it's a little soft.
saturated with fats like i like i like a crunchy guy knows his dairy or or butter
pecan something like that butter that's like if i was gonna georgia thing if i was gonna go to like
an ice cream stand i'd probably get butter pec okay okay how much can you bench heyday heyday
then most i did was 365 for three 365 for three how many surgeries have you had uh
Three.
Three surgery.
Two shoulders and a pin in my thumb.
Oh, have you ever been fined?
Yeah.
For what?
And how much?
I got, my worst year was 17.
17?
I got four illegal cut blocks in like six weeks.
Four illegal.
So what did that come up to?
It was like 40,000 at the end of the day.
40K.
17. And I tried to blame Dante in my appeals.
Didn't work. Merton Hanks got you.
Blaming others.
All right. Because I did. We played, remember we played the Saints? We ran a screen pass
a half time and I got a holding penalty.
Dante's like, and I had just gotten fine the week before. He's like, why didn't you cut?
You dumb fuck. I told you to cut. And so then I just started cutting everybody and then started
getting fine. So when they had the appeal, my last one, they weren't very happy. I was like,
look, my old line coach told me to cut. So that's why I cut.
okay i got it makes sense what was your fastest 40 time uh i think at pro day it was like 501
5 oh 1 quick for a big guy quick all right two more um you have any posters on your wall when you were a kid
i did uh of who of what uh i had dion and mike allstock deion sanders yeah deion and mike allstock
and all stock so one of the flashiest players and one of the most hard nose players to ever play
the game but he was also an atlanta georgia guy yeah and dion was an atlanta guy so that's
i i was a dion guy too i was a dion guy i mean dion was prime time baby and final question
how do you eat your steak in what sense like cook all sense all senses um i prefer grilled
grilled steak medium rare medium rare uh rib eye um marinated in a sauce from the south called dales
a dales sauce um and do you eat the steak with utensils or just with your bare hands or depending on
the setting i i'll use it utensils now if it's a bone and ribi and there's still some meat on
the bone i'm going to chew the bone yes so you're using your hand yes now if we're at a fancy
restaurant still i paid my money's green okay money money's green money is green that's a good
point my girls always like rob you're wearing shorts into this restaurant i said yeah they'll accept my
money yeah they don't want my money somewhere else yeah i'll go to the steakhouse next you know
next door if they don't want it Robbie let's let's uh let's go over okay what you looks like my
four-year-old trying to write his name over there man this is a tough one which one
he does i mean his money's green
he's an ice cream guy
he has a five flat 40
5 flat that's not bad
yeah let's go there
all right on three one two
three dog
we think you're dog i mean
undrafted free agent
uh wasn't the smartest guy wasn't the fastest guy
uh wasn't the strongest guy
i did 345 when i was in my heyday 355 maybe as a bench
but loves ice cream we could have put you in the dude's dude category because everyone loved
David Andrews but he was the leader of the line you know he was the leader of men and
the way he got there to become a leader being prepared for his opportunity fucking going
through a lot of adversity through his first few years with injury at the end this that you could
say you're a fucking dog I appreciate that and dogs necessarily don't have the stats on the paper
like at the you know combine running the fastest 40 being the strongest guy a dog gets the job
done at all times and is relentless and that's who you were david as a player i think we had a lot
of dogs on our teams had a lot i look at our teams you know like even you know you two are superstars
right but you did what the team needed like why i respected guys like you so much is because
you guys you would go block safeties and you would do what you needed for our football team
even though that wasn't what's best for Julian, you rob all the blocks.
I mean, 2018, we couldn't not have, like, when you left and I figured out what you did for our team.
I mean, I knew, but when you weren't there and seeing that from the tight end position, I mean, unreal.
So, you know, I just think I look at our football teams, it was easy to learn how to be a dog because that's what we were.
That's what those guys were.
This guy's a fucking Georgia dog.
He's this dog.
He's all dog.
He's all dog.
I do love my dogs.
We appreciate you coming on.
Dudes on Dudes, man.
We appreciate everything you did as a football player as well.
You're a champion for life.
And we're all champions and Super Bowl champions together forever, man.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
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else to plug no we got to get you on gronks been on I know it's been a dude yes I got
I've got to get on that quick snap podcast.
But I don't live over here.
In my kitchen, on the couch, just answering all the questions, having a good time.
And Hoyer on the low, obviously, you know, because he was a quarterback, he has a lot of great insight.
He does.
Backup quarterback, too, so he sees it all.
It's a rebeal.
You know, it's kind of like, I think the guys, like with McAfee, like, he was a punter.
So he got to see everything from a distance, from a distance, but inside.
Hoyer he's the quarterback you get to see everything in but you're also not in it like you're not like
you're not playing but you have to be prepared to play but you get to his mind is not like tom's
every week where he's worrying about everything he's worrying about the quarterback and what's going
and watching the team to communicate to tom oh line's such a bubble yeah like the skill guys you guys
all do stuff there was a lot of meetings where you guys had where we were not in yeah
stuff you know seven on sevens whatever things on the bench like we're down there at the very
sitting with ourselves, our little, you know,
going back to Jimmy Neutron, our nucleus.
And then you guys are like one big group.
So it's like very interesting because there's a lot of things he says
that I don't remember because we were down here worried about what we were doing, you know.
So that's been fun.
So but appreciate you guys having me.
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