Games with Names - The “I Quit” Match with O'Shea Jackson Jr. | 1999 Royal Rumble: The Rock vs. Mankind

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

O'Shea Jackson Jr. joins the show! The actor, podcaster, and wrestling fanatic is with us to relive one of the most infamous matches in wrestling history: The "I Quit" Match between The Rock and Mankind. O'Shea joins us on the couch (3:01). We go back to January 1999 (40:26). We profile these wrestlers (49:54). We breakdown the match (1:07:01). We score it (1:19:23). Julian recaps his week in New Orleans in this week's edition of The Chill Zone presented by Coors Light (1:31:45). DEN OF THIEVES 2: PANTERA is available now on Premium Video on Demand and on 4K UHD SteelBook®, Blu-ray™ and DVD March 4 from Lionsgate #DenofThieves2  Where to Watch https://www.lionsgate.com/movies/den-of-thieves-2-panteraSupport the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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when a breakup's about to happen. And I took two things with me before the breakup. I took my PS4 and I took my title. Did you put the belt, like, over the shoulder out the door or was it like in a bag? No, I put it in my fist and then raised it as I got in the elevator. Like the end of fucking the breakfast club.

The dropkick kid. Don't you forget about me. The guy who's going back to his parents beating him. Yeah, right. But I got these nice earrings. I got to go to my shitty life. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler, and we are on a mission

to find the greatest game of all time. On today's episode, we are covering the I Quit match between The Rock and Mankind from 1999's Royal Rumble with actor, wrestling fanatic, and LA sports diehard, O'Shea Jackson Jr. And we get to talking. The first time he met The Rock, loves The Rock. Loves him.

My dad was like, dude, talk to him. Like, I can't, like, I can't talk. What it's like acting with Godzilla. I'm getting my head right, like, man, this is a dream come true, and then it hit me. I'm not gonna see Godzilla there. No. I don't, it's like.

CGI. Yeah, I'm just running away from, like, blue walls in a tennis ball. And then we get into the wrestling culture in the 90s. Get your brony. Cause they'd always leave you on the craziest cliffhanger on Raw. Yeah, but that's how they,

I'd be like, no, five more minutes. Yeah, bro, reel you in. Reel you in, dude. No. And then we do a little New Orleans recap in this week's edition of the Chill Zone presented by Coors Light. You got to stick around to the very, very end. Let's go. High Heart Radio. January 24th, 1999, Anaheim Pond, Anaheim, California.

Two legends, a ladder, a folding chair, handcuffs, and one phrase that will end it all. I'll never say it! This is the Blood in the pond I quit match. With your bitch ass. Dude, hold on, because I went to you guys' last Pages vs. Giants, right? In Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis. I hated that.

I know. Eleven. But you were concussed, bro. You got hit. That wasn't that one. No? That was 49 against the Seahawks. You got hit and stayed in that fucking game.

And I was furious. I was like, no, 10, 10! And you shook that shit off. Well, they didn't have it yet. They didn't have the spotter rule in that game. Okay. After that game is when they put the independent neurologist or the spotter that had to call,

then now you get to call the buzz. Yeah, bro. Should've buzzed you. I wasn't concussed though. You got rocked. I got rocked. But I got back up. If you're concussed, you ain't getting back up.

We're for sure going to see a concussion in this one now. I'm already concussed. Are we good to roll? Yeah. And they're fully in Kyler's part of the show. Jack's in the hemisphere somewhere, but welcome to Games with Names, O'Shea Jackson. Yeah.

We are sitting here and we picked a match. We picked a game that brought me down memory lane. I'm sitting here. When you picked the game that you wanted to talk about it brought me to my childhood Yeah, it brought me it really brought me to detention Because he picked the I quit match in 1999 rock versus mankind This is in the Royal Rumble in One sentence why'd you pick this match?

Well, it was really around the time where I started to watch wrestling, like, on a weekly basis. As a kid, my older brother, Gerald, showed me wrestling, but he showed me through Sega Genesis, you know? WWF Raw was the game. I'm learning about, you know, Shawn Michaels, Bam Bam Bigelow, Dorank the Clown, you know, WWF Raw was the game. I'm learning about, you know, Shawn Michaels, Bam Bam Bigelow, Dork the Clown, Undertaker. And from there it was, you know,

we could watch this on TV. And then, so then it started to, you know, be like, all right, we got to catch Raw, see what's going on. But around 99 going into 2000, that's when I was locked in. And The Rock was my favorite at this time. I didn't fully appreciate Mick Foley,

but now in my older age, I fully respect Mick Foley. Like Mick Foley is a wrestling God. And you know, The Rock in his full on heel, how could you not wanna watch this match? Without a doubt. Is this the greatest match of all time? Oh, no dude, that's that's so I Don't even know how to measure that but there's that number one you you got to think when you see mankind

Obviously you think about him an undertaker and Helen O'Sull, you know The Rock has had some great classics with Stone Cold Steve Austin, what I think is the greatest rivalry in wrestling. And so it's not the greatest of all time, but between these two, I'm pretty sure there's a pretty serious headshot that changed the game as far as taking chairs to the head in this match. But-

Take five of them. Bro, so it's definitely one of the most memorable. But the five after were crazy. Dude, it's brutal. And the Rock cheats. So this is when the Rock was a heel. We'll get into the match. But this is when the Rock was a heel.

I didn't like the Rock at this time. I was a Stone Cold guy. Cause they, like you said, they were in the rivalry. So cool that you're here. Den of Thieves 2. Coming out. How was shooting that? We're getting diamonds this time. We already hit the Federal Reserve. Potentially, I heard they just maybe greenlit a third one.

How was doing two? And then what are we stealing in three? Two was, it was awesome, man. It was the shit. In London. No, no, we shot it in the Canary Islands. Canary Islands? Which is like Spain's Hawaii. Two was, it was awesome, man. It was the shit. It- In London. No, no, we shot it in the Canary Islands.

Canary Islands. Which is like Spain's Hawaii. It's not mainland Spain. I'm convinced the actors in Hollywood, you guys just do these exotic trips just to take these and shoot in these places so you guys get to just be there for three months. I mean, it doesn't hurt.

I'd be like, before this, I shot a I'm sorry, but I shot a series in Virginia. Wasn't the same. It's not. It's not the same. You know, no, no disrespect to Virginia, but y'all could have Richmond like that's yours. I won't bother you for it ever again. Shout out Mike Vick.

Shout out Mike Vick. Norfolk State. Norfolk State. Shout out Mike Vick. Yeah. Like, you know, being a Los Angeles kid, Richmond, Virginia is just different. Different. It's different, you know?

Mount Trash Hill. Yeah, we're down there and it was a gun rally happening and I'm just like, you know, there was a situation where we had to, we were moving hotels and you know, there's a lot of orange, a lot of camouflage in the lobby. I hear, hey, are you Ice Cube's kid? Yes, sure loved you in that movie.

And they're like, that was it, you know, but it's like, you know, Virginia's wild, wild place. At a hotel on a plantation, shit was crazy. It's crazy down there, man. It is different. Anytime you touch that Macy Dixie line, there's a little something, something. How was the. Anytime you touch that Macy Dixie line, there's a little something something. How was the Canary Islands though?

Den of Thieves too. That's awesome. The people over there are great. We were in Tenerife. Where is that? I have no clue. I'm not a geography guy. Canary Islands is a two hour boat ride from Africa.

So it's not like all in Spain. That's why I call it like Spain's Hawaii. Cause this is this Island that's like Spain territory. It's a series of rugged volcanic islands Northwest of Africa. That's why I take the team on my pocket. Is that near Algeria and stuff? No, no, it's like Morocco.

Morocco. Yeah. But it was great. I mean, you're on an Island all day. You know, you might get a sprinkle of rain here and there, some fog. Other than that, you're chilling. And it's really cool, really nice people, really good food. Can't knock it. It's probably, I advise you to learn Spanish.

You know, get a little bit under your belt. But it's a different Spanish in Spain. Yeah, it's not like- No, I speak Mexican Spanish. I'm from California. Should I be over here speaking Spanish out here. When I go to like Spain, they have no clue what I'm saying. Yeah, they look at you different.

You speak Los Angeles. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably kind of like how I just went to New Orleans for the Super Bowl and they were speaking English that was not English. Yeah, no, it's a twang as they call it. It's like French, Creole, English, all together. So like the different accents and you can assume,

you appreciate, you can understand it in English, but you never think about it in Spanish. Yeah, I mean, when it comes to Louisiana, when they're real, like I think about the, no disrespect, but the groundskeeper from Waterboy, you know, Bobby Bloujey, like, you know,, I think about the, no disrespect, but the groundskeeper from Waterboy, you know, Bobby Blush, like, you know, like I think about that a lot. But I know it's not all that bad.

I know that that was exaggerated, but I can't help but think about it, cause it's funny. I went on a little spam boat. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I did that thing like last week, gators and stuff. And they just had snow before the Super Bowl. They did. Gators frozen in the And they just had snow before the Super Bowl. They did.

Gators frozen in the water. You know what, I went there and I realized I was at California. The first thing I look at, I was like, man, this water's polluted. That's the first thing. Your water's thick? That's the first thing I looked at.

I was like, and I'm over here like, yeah, I'm like conservative. I was like, man, they don't recycle and shit. Yeah, your water's thick. Thick water, bro. This guy's like yeah, we like to put diesel under our boat to make it go faster. I'm like what about the fish?

They're there. And the gator. So, Den of Thieves 2, you've been awesome. You did Obi-Wan, you did Den of Thieves 1. Take us through like a day-to-day life as an actor and a father. What is your day-to-day life like? You know, depending on the time zone

is when you can like FaceTime back at home. You know, my daughter now, she's seven, second grade, full-time job, full-time job. I got an eight-year-old. Yeah, yeah, bro, it's full-time job. Full. Full-time job. I got an eight-year-old. Second grade. Yeah, bro, it's a full-time job. But yeah, day to day, it'll probably, depending on the call time,

it can be as bad as 4.30 a.m. or you can have a nice, easy 6 p.m. call time, depending on how much you're filming. And now if you're high on the call sheet and you got a lot of scenes, that's gonna fluctuate all the time. And, you know, at 6 p.m., going to work at 6 p.m. sounds great,

but as an actor, you know, we're probably shooting nights, which means that I'm probably gonna get off work at 6 a.m. So it's a gift and a curse to see that. But from there, you know, you probably been looking at the sides, which are like your lines for the day, the night before. Get into trailer, probably get you something to eat. Depending on what time you get there, I like to get to work an hour, hour and a half early,

if I can, because it allows me to kind of get there, chill, wrap my mind around what's going on. I feel rushed. Yeah, because if you get there rushed and throwing you into hair and makeup and you're trying to learn your lines while somebody's trying to paint your face, it takes your mind completely away from your task. And then from there, depending on what you got, you got like a fight scene, you're in for a long day. It might say one scene on the call sheet, but if it's a fight scene, depending on how epic it is, you're gonna be there for a long time. My dad did a movie called Fist Fight with Charlie Day.

And at the end of that movie, they have this epic fight that's like a five minute fight, took them six days to shoot. And it's just like constantly going back and all the things that have to go into it So a lot of times these action sequences that you see that are like three four five minutes long Probably took you know, almost a business week and then y'all get on the internet and trash it after somebody just you know Almost lost a leg because of a stunt. It's crazy out there.

I get it. I'm a survivor. Dude. And that's what people don't realize. I mean, you have, like when you have to go to work at six o'clock, you get there an hour and a half before, like it's hard to probably just turn it on. Yeah, be somebody else.

Exactly, like when I would go to work, my work day, I would go there two, three hours before because I didn't like to be felt like I was rushing for anything. I wanted to get my routine in. And then I wanted to go out and put everything in before to make me feel and go perform my best that day. You know, and that's why I marvel at like actors

and performers and people in the arts and like musicians where they can like go at any time and just turn it on. You know, and you have to turn it on. Now, when you're not turning it on, you're not acting and you have some downtime, are you just full of daddy daycare or what? I mean, if I'm like, Den of Thieves takes me overseas or it's hard to get a film that films in Los Angeles.

Yeah, tax breaks, bro. Everyone's leaving now. Everyone's leaving now. So, a lot of times it's seeing what time it is back at home, FaceTime my daughter, you know, how was school? Of course kids never wanna tell you the full of how school was.

They don't tell you anything. Yeah, it was how was school. It's okay. No, what happened? I don't remember. What do you mean you don't remember? What were you doing? So I look at it, like even when I pick her up, she just got off work. If I got off work, I don't remember? What were you doing? So I look at it like even when I pick her up,

she just got off work. If I got off work, I'm not, I don't remember, man. Give me some time. So she, I let her unwind, get the iPad out. Then she starts gossiping. And then I know all the deets, you know? But doing that overseas is a little, you know, it's a little harder.

So in between them, if I'm not FaceTiming her, I'm on PlayStation, I'm watching anime, or I'm watching wrestling. So in between them, if I'm not FaceTime and her, I'm on PlayStation. I'm watching anime or I'm watching wrestling. What's the game on PlayStation? Obviously, Grand Theft Auto. The new one is coming out. It's coming out. But Grand Theft Auto five has been I've been playing that game for 12 years. Like that game has been on Xbox 360, PlayStation 4 and now my PlayStation 5.

That's incredible. I didn't have a child when that game came out. But aren't all the missions completed? I'm still playing the 360, PlayStation 4, and now my PlayStation 5. That's incredible. I didn't have a child when that game came out. But aren't all the missions completed if you've been doing it for 12 years? You go online, bro. Online. So what are you just lifting weights,

getting your guy yoked up, just robbing shit? No. You literally, are you method acting the whole time when you're just fucking playing Grand Theft Auto, getting yourself ready for Den of Thieves 5 coming up? What they do is there's Grand Theft Auto, the game, obviously that's what you get, but then there's Grand Theft Auto Online, where they take you and 15 other players

and they put you in one city. So it is havoc, bro. It is chaos. People got jets, tanks, and this, that, and the third. You can team up together to rob banks and heists and things like that. So it's always something to do. And if you got a squad or like four of your homies

and you're like, yo, let's just meet up in the city and just cause hell, that's a good two, three hours of entertainment. It is, it is. But that on top of NBA 2K, WWE 2K. Cause I like- FIFA, any FIFA? No, I haven't played FIFA since college, bro.

Shout out to my SC buddies. But yeah, there used to be crazy tournaments in the dorms. Dude, I'm on the FIFA right now, and I'm with all my high school friends, and we're clubs, and so everyone makes their own player. Oh yeah? And you play that one player the whole match. Yes!

So like, we're sitting there, you know, just, I don't even know soccer that well, but I learned it through FIFA. My guy, like it reminds me of back in the day when we used to play Call of Duty. I would play Randy, Randy Moss, and he was the old kid, the old head on the team. And I was like a little 22 year old and we would be teaming up playing Call of Duty. And all of a sudden you'd see Randy's guy looking up in the fucking sky and stuff and he'd be like man this graphics are hella good like that's how I feel now on the video games I'm the old head just admiring details admiring details and I always argue that I'm 38 so I grew up on Sega which is three three buttons. These kids are coming out using the dexterity in their fingers with paddles and shit

as their first controller. Of course they're gonna be computing to the shit that looked better. And also any console player going up against people on a computer. It's the worst, because they're over here with a mouse click. They're killing you, bro.

They're killing you. Are you a computer guy? No, I need it. My PlayStation is my pride and joy. I take her everywhere. I took her to Tenerife. And I'd say her because her name's Lucille, and she's had my back for 30 years. Hell yeah.

Well, the thing is, I completely understand. It keeps you out of trouble. Yeah. The video games keep you out of trouble, and you get to connect with the boys. Yeah, and life is less expensive. Way less. If I'm going out, I got you get to connect with the boys. Yeah. And it's also life is less expensive. Way less. If I'm going out and I got to go, you know, boys want to go out to some club or like,

I'm always going out for dinner or something, bro. That adds up. That adds up. PlayStation every couple of months, $60. New game. A thousand V bucks go a long way. A thousand V bucks go a long way. That's at least 12 nights. So I'm not giving up video games for nothing, bro. Now, love video games. You also, big sports fan. Yeah.

LA sports. Yeah, we're doing really good right now. You guys got so many superstars. It's crazy. What a time to be alive. I mean, but you have to out here to compete with like the beach. You got to compete with like the mountains.

Yeah. What's your hierarchy of LA sports teams? My Lakers are first and foremost. The Lakers town. Lakers first and foremost. That was, bro, when I was in third grade, Shaq and Kobe are at the height of their powers. Hated them.

I was so disrespectful for that age. It was like the best time in the world. And my favorite part about being a Laker fan is that like there are no dark ages, bro. It just doesn't exist. Like Will Chamberlain just walks in wants to be a part of your team. Kareem same thing magic. You went in a coin flip. We, you win in a coin flip.

We won Magic Johnson in a coin flip. Literally. Like the other way, he's a Chicago Bull. And James Worthy, we won the chip. And then the next year we have the number one draft pick. Chips scripted. If that happened this year, the internet would explode. And then Shaq walks in, you get Kobe, LeBron,

yeah I wanna be a Laker, and now we get Luca. Like, it's not easy being a Laker fan, but it's not hard either. The shit is scripted. The shit is scripted. With a logo! With a logo! Jerry West.

Every ball, every jersey, every basket, every court has a Laker on it. See, recognize or step aside. That's the difference between LA and the Bay. I grew up in the Bay. Know what our basketball team was doing? We were choking out the coach. We were choking out the coach.

Baron Davis was dunking on big dirt. Yeah, bro. We were, yeah, we weren't the good team. It worked out. But we had swag doing it. That's right, It worked out eventually. Now. Oh, after Lakers got to go.

I was going to go. I was I was jump right into Tony in the Trans League. Yeah, this guy is involved. Yeah. Dodgers, man, the Dodgers. I now anybody who knows me knows that I've never been like a huge baseball fan. Yeah. If you like baseball is better than chamomile tea, bro.

Like that will knock me. Put you down. Yeah. Well, it's just like a slow game announcer. Got the nice voice. You're out. Well, comatose. And then, you know, when I when I was a kid, how I got introduced to the Dodgers was through once again, my older brother, Dale, the beauties of having an older brother,

and my favorite Dodger, because he hit home runs, Mike Piazza. Like, I loved Mike Piazza. And then, next thing I know, for whatever reason, Mike Piazza's in New York. As I got older, I found out the controversy behind that and everything, thanks Fox for buying the team. But then, my first baseball game I went to in New York,

Shea Stadium. Yeah. And then, yeah, I remember seeing Mike Piazza crack a home run against the Dodgers and looking at my dad, I'm ready to go now. You know, we dipped. And yeah, I put baseball down for a long time. And then around the time where the Dodgers,

we started to get like Manny Ramirez and then the A-Gon team, you know, just, it was, it was, it piqued my interest again. And watching those teams get like that hype and then fail, it breaks your heart and baseball is so many games. It's just 162. And just like to get your hopes up for so long and then it's over like that.

How do you do that every year? I can't. It's hard. And then, yeah, so you always keep an eye and constantly hearing how Kershaw is not gonna do it. And, you know, they're just saying he's a choke artist and all this nonsense. And then the pandemic happens and we get one

and then they trash it. Asterisk. Yeah, so it was just like, bro. Shorten season. Just like the most frustrating sport in the world is baseball, but now? Feeling pretty good right now. I mean, whoa.

I'm feeling pretty good right now, bro. Who mean. I'm feeling pretty good right now, bro. Who's next? The Evil Empire. What's number three? Oh, oh, oh, I got to go my Rams. Ram? My Rams. Now Rams over Raiders?

That was a movie, bro. But the LA Raiders were here. Yeah, I didn't pay attention. When I start,, when I woke up and I'm starting to recognize sports, they're Oakland. And what happened was one day I asked my mom because we, Raider, Raider, Raider, Raider, Raider, whole family, Raider, Raider, Raider, Raider, Raider.

And then I'll never forget, it was the Buccaneers versus Raiders in the Super Bowl. Yeah, and they decided to keep John Gruden's playbook for some reason. And you know, they called out the first 19 plays and all that nonsense. And the Raiders lose the Super Bowl. The next day, just out of love for my father,

I went to school head to toe in Raider gear, even though we just lost the Superbowl, just like I'm rocking us, yada yada yada. And I don't know if you know about sixth, seventh graders, they are some of the most scumbag people on earth. Oh yeah. And I was belittled and trashed for an entire school day because I'm in my Raider gear just for the love of my dad.

And from there, it was just like another thing, another thing, another thing. And just watching my dad ram his head into the wall for this team over and over again. So I got tired of it. I'm like, mom, why do we go for Oakland? Like we're not even Oakland. And she was like, well, you know, they were with LA,

yada yada yada. And then I was like, okay, what's closer to LA, Oakland or San Diego? San Diego. I said, well, then I'm going for San Diego. So I was a Chargers fan for a long time. And you know, LaDane and Thomas and Lorenzo Neal and Antonio Gates, we were just a powerhouse. Philip Rivers, who I say is the goodest quarterback of all time. The goodest quarterback?

Because he's just, it's always, like it was just always just right there. Gosh darn good. Being great, yeah. And it just like, it just never hits. So he's the goodest quarterback of all time. And like respect to Phillip Rivers and Bolo Ties. Yeah, the goodest quarterback of all time, Philip Rivers.

And then in 2016, there were the talks of, LA is getting a team. It's either gonna be the Chargers, Raiders, or Rams. And I pledged on NFL Network, say who, I was in LA Raider gear on NFL Network. I said, listen, I want the Raiders to be here I was in LA Raider gear on NFL Network. I said, listen, I want the Raiders to be here because I know the city will go crazy, but whoever shows up first,

I'm rocking with no matter what. Rams came first, my Chargers came second. So like you would, but like I pledge, whoever comes first, that's who I'm rocking with. It's a pledge. Rams came first, I had who I'm rocking with. It's a pledge. Rams came first. I had to cheer for Jeff Fisher. He's a good, he was rough.

He said, what is he a good of all time? He's a good of all time. Well, he, no, no. For Jeff Fisher, he upsets me to different levels, dude. Different levels that I didn't know I had. But you know, the team had me introduce the Rams to the city at this Nike event. We had Jerry Garth and Todd Gurley and the Rams organization has taken care of me ever since. And I'm rocking with the Rams.

And it really turned out because I got to win a Super Bowl. Yeah. And my dad loves that for me. But yeah, man, the the Rams were in LA. Long time ago. Long time ago. Long, long, long time ago. Jackie Slater. One of my roommate, Matthew Slater, his dad played 20 years

for him. Hall of Famer. I just don't, I don't, I don't have it. I don't have it. And they left him. They got good, got Khalil Mack and then all that. And then they left him. They went to Nevada. But you know, he's still the president of the Raider Nation.

I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for the Raiders because even though I am a Rams fan, I'm raised by the autumn wind. The autumn wind is a Raider. So, you know, that's why I hate the Chiefs. And then now you love Brady. Brady's pretty cool. I started appreciating Brady, that Atlanta game,

because the girl I was talking to was from Atlanta and we were in an argument. So then the Patriots won and I love that for me. Mike drop. Yeah. Mike drop. It was great. But yeah. And also can we talk about how Tom was smiling during that whole Super Bowl?

Was he? That monster. Was he cheesing? Bro, he saw them struggling and they would go to Tom and they're like, yeah, they just got to figure it out. I don't know what it is. You know, they should put me down there. I saw all that. I think he just got those Hollywood it out. I don't know what it is. You know, they should put me down there. I saw all that.

I think he just got those Hollywood good looks. No, man. He was happy. You could see the twinkle in the eye. If I was Patrick Mahomes, I would have never did that sit down interview with him. He was just like, you know, I'm the only one that understands you, right?

I'm the only one that's been in your position. You know that, right? He incepted him. Yeah, he got in his head. Got in him. Yup, monster. How many dreams did he have to go in? Seriously, did he go to just a four dream fucking inception Tom Brady you're a monster so he's still winning

Yeah, he's just still win that night. I'll tell you gosh. Yeah so Kings are out of it. No Kings Kings are here for both Stanley Cups. The only teams that I'm not rocking with is the Clippers. They go to hell. Clippers. Yeah, ew. This is gross, bro.

It's not a Clippers town. Bro. Have you been to the new stadium? Yeah, I went there for the Raw when they went to Netflix. They had it in the Intuit Dome. And I and I thought like this is my first time in here. It's probably my last time because I'm pretty sure Balmer is gonna ban me. So I took my Laker WWE Championship belt just to just to troll. Just to troll. Yeah, bro. It's the only championship they'll see in that place.

Nah, they probably aren't gonna sniff one for a long time. Yeah, man, And now they're just taking up space. It's a cool venue though. I got Tripped out. I went to the Billie Eilish concert there. Oh, it's a it's a lovely trash can Yeah, and you don't even use freaking tickets. They just read your face. Yeah, they make you get this app. Yeah, I hate that God that's my phone got a Clipper logo and now I And now I'm getting, they're listening to me. Yeah, for sure. They're fully listening. So anytime I say Clipper, I'm getting season ticket thing coming straight to my thing. Yeah, bro.

They used to like, and there was- You gotta sign up. I used to not have a real beef with the Clippers. Also, sparks are above the Clippers, just wanted everybody to know. But I used to not have a beef with the Clippers until when they got good, they started doing things like the owner turns our locker room

into his playoff office. You're defacing the Magic Johnson statue. You don't have a statue for me to deface out here. Or you're covering up our banners and our retired jerseys. You don't even have a retired jersey for me to cover up. And the worst part about it, they didn't start doing that until they hired a Celtic to be their coach.

So now you really trying to disrespect. So it's been on and popping. I'm cool off the Clippers. They know what it is when I see them. And yeah, let's just keep it that way. They should go the Bakersfield. That. But they could also go the Indianapolis Colts route and put up like a playoff appearance. You could put the playoff appearance. I would love that. In the

Raptors. Yeah I feel like they got a Blake Griffin curse too by the way. Blake Griffin? Yeah because Steve Ballmer brought out Blake Griffin, had his arm around him, pointed to the rafters like, Blake, one day the 32 is gonna be hanging in that rafters, we're gonna make you a clipper for life, and they sent him to Detroit to die. Detroit? Yeah.

Then I saw him over at, he was in Boston for a couple of, Yeah, that was cute. He was. I think he got a ship. No, he missed it. No. He missed it. Julian, stop it. Blake.

Did you watch that clip show on FX? No, no. But shout out to Ramona Shelburne. That's my dog, but no, I didn't see it. Did you watch Laker one? Oh, like winning time. Lakers have had a few shows. You have to be, you know, which one?

Winning time? The winning time one. Yeah, I hated that too cuz I wasn't in it Did you audition? No, but I just felt like I should have got a call should have got a call I'm the most aggressive Laker fan on TV when we had D'Angelo Russell and Brandon Ingram They had me on ESPN I said we were winning the chip because I refuse I refuse to let any media Make me look less of a Laker than I am. Give us a Mount Rushmore of Lakers fans.

I'm taking up three spots with Jack Nicholson. Three? Like, bro, I go hard for the Lakers. The type of Laker fan I am is the Laker fan I have been always waiting for as a kid. Because Laker fans, you know, they go, they bring a celebrity on, they're there to promote something and that's it. I'm here to tell you all the other organizations with respect to the Celtics because we're the only double digit people out there. All you single digit championship teams,

Celtics, respect, you guys are the devil we know. But the rest of you single digit championship teams, don't you ever in your life think you can talk to a Laker fan the way that you have? How dare you? Ever. Scum, vermin. Yeah, I respect, respect the Celtics. Got it.

But like, you know, even if it was Boston- Was it tight right now? No, no, you got one on us. Oh, it's tight. Yeah, but you know, you got a lot of segregation championships. But Oh, it's time. Yeah, but you know, you got a lot of segregation championships, but like It's still respect because we've been running the league forever, but you talk about the Bill Russell era, bro He didn't even like y'all that's just tell you everything, you know

Well, it's just basketball. Yeah, bro with two different with two different interests. That's just, Bill got all the rings still. Listen bro, I get it. Respect to Bill Russell. But he didn't let y'all in for the Jersey retirement. That lets you know everything. Not you, because you a Bay Area guy who got adopted. I got adopted.

Yeah, you know, you want chips for them, respect. I was thinking about that. I became an adult in Boston though. Yeah. Because I left the Bay Area at 18, went to Ohio. And then for three years in Ohio, then I went to the East coast for 12 years. So then I had like an adult-ism there.

Yeah, you got to adopt. I said, Kobe's a Philly guy, but he's an LA dude. He's an LA dude. Like he left Philly when he was 17, and we haven't gotten rid of him since like We hold on to him bro. They booed him at the All-Star game. They did. Nope disrespectful. That's disrespectful We're a sports history podcast. We yada yada'd over you being at two Stanley Cup games. Can you yeah? What is it like? Oh, no, give us at all. It is the number one Stanley Cup Stanley Cup. I'm drinking a beer out of it

What yeah with Sean Thornton back in 12 11? I want to hate on you so bad, but you're so chill No, let him have it. Let's go long hair. Don't care I would feel so bad Touching that cup bro, and you just drank out of it Where's the book coming out? Which book you got a right one? We got like three at touching that cup, bro, and you just drank out of it. When's the book coming out? Which book? You gotta write one, too. We got like three Amazon copies, bro.

To be fair, they're children's books. Bro, but being there for the cup, you know, that Jonathan Quiglet team, seeing the city completely blacked out, because what they do with LA is they always give us two teams and something and it divides the city every time. Even we were all Galaxy fans until LAFC came. By the way, Galaxy defending champions, you know what it is.

Also shout out to the Sparks earlier, but the USC women's basketball team is on a tie-rate. What's her name on there? Juju Watkins. Juju. She's a monster. I'm out here too. Yeah, bro.

Shout out Juju. The entire city needs to be behind USC. I'm not here for the UCLA propaganda. Fight on. I went to USC. But so when it comes to the cup, bro, there was nothing like that. Like it was the entire city banding together,

Staples Center back when it was Staples Center, completely blacked out, welcome to the Black Parade, playing through the speakers. And to get the Cup was something I didn't know I needed that bad. And going to hockey is so much better than watching it on TV because of the crowd, that bad. And going to hockey is so much better than watching it on TV because of the crowd, that environment.

And as much as I love all the other major sports, there is nothing on earth like overtime, playoff, hockey. Sudden death, next point wins. Oh my God, you want stress. That is stress. And those Jonathan Quick teams, God, you want stress. That is stress. And those Jonathan Quick teams, dude, they were everything. Shout out to Drew Doughty.

Yeah, shout out to Drew Doughty. Now my favorite player has been Colpittard for years. Dude, he's a stud. We're pretty decent this year. We've made a couple of weird moves, but you know, go Kings, go, always. Have you ever seen Sudden Death with Van Damme? No. Well, you dropped Sudden Death in there. Have you ever seen sudden death with Van Dam? No.

Well you dropped sudden death in there. Takes place at the Pittsburgh Penguins arena. Yeah. You remember- Shots across me. He crossed me. You said sudden death and brought me there. That's Jules hockey knowledge.

No, I got no hockey. I've been to a few of those games. I used to go to all the Bruins games. It's just a lot. Somebody I want you to take the time to look up and I'm gonna put this out in the airwaves. Mike Babcock, you are an evil man. Ooh.

You are an evil individual, dude. And I can't stand Mike Babcock. Go ahead and look at the history of Mike Babcock. I used to film for Marymount College, the Division I hockey program. His kid was on that team. So I was like filming, hanging around that time. That's a bad dude, but that's hockey.

Yeah, but who was the guy, I forget the name of the player, but he had like some odd number of games played where he just needed one more game to hit like. Oh yes, let me look that up. Yeah, look at these hockey heads. Bro, honestly, shout out to my little brother Sharif and my sister Karima. Oh, Mike Vodano. Or they call him Pockets. American legend, shot to my little brother Sharif and my sister Karima. Oh Mike Badano. American legend Mike Badano. Another situation where in the locker

room they got a TV in the locker room he would take players phones airplay it to the TV in the locker room and just go through their camera roll. That's I mean that's you're a sick individual dude. That's that's that's those hockey guys are different now. Let you know right now you go through my camera roll It's fisticuffs. They're probably right those hockey guys. They're like it's a their brotherhood that they have is gnarly Yeah, don't show my wife in my camera roll Yeah, but they're all they're all like drinking pints to it like cheers in it like it's crazy I've never seen these guys can go out and drink

I used to hang out with a bunch of these Bruins in my off season. You take the whole bar back to one of the guys houses. They'd be up all night. They'd be at like free skate the next morning at nine o'clock. Like nothing happened. They're monsters. Those guys. For people who haven't been to hockey, they're way bigger than you think.

They're pretty. But there's also some smaller guys. Yeah, those are for speed. Speed. Speed, bro. Shout out some smaller guys. Yeah, those are for speed, bro. Speed. Speed, bro. Shout out Johnny Hockey, I'm sad. Shout out my guy.

Yeah, that sucks. I'm convinced Jules is the reason why Tyler Sagan got traded. Nah, it wasn't me. It wasn't me. What did you do? Nothing. That was him.

That was him. We'll talk later. That was him. Let's go back in the time. Shout out to the USC women's team. Last night, they We'll talk later. That was him. Let's go back in time. Shout out to the USC women's team. Last night they just upset the number one UCLA Bruins. That's what I'm talking about, bro. The undefeated Bruins are undefeated no more.

Fight on. Fuqua. You know what Fuqua is? No, what is Fuqua? F-U-C-L-A. Fuqua? Actually, yeah, bro. Fuqua.

When the rivals are in over at SC, bro, you sell Fuqua shirts, Fu Klot bears. You attach them to your bumper, drive them through the city. Yeah, bro, Fu Klot all day. I think the city of LA needs to unite behind the Kings then because it's the only team that doesn't have two. Yeah, and the Sparks. I just thought about that.

Sparks, bro. Sparks, three time WBA champion. Don't say the Ducks. Yeah, bro, the Anaheim. This match took place at Anaheim, the pond. Yeah, but like, so. No disrespect to Anaheim, you got Disneyland. And they had the angels.

Oof. Best players just leaving. How can you be a really, how can you have like two of the best players and like not sniff the playoffs? Cause you don't care. That's gnarly to me. Yeah, that's, that's insane.

You got Trout and Shohei and was just like, we're good. Taking them to Disney for free. We're good. Yeah, that's all we need baby. Dude, we just opened up California. You go upside down now. Yeah, you know, get you a roller coaster.

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on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you like to listen. Let's go back into time around where this match took place. January 24th, 1999. Let's talk over some pop culture. Number one movie, Patch Adams. Yep. Shout out to Robert Williams.

Oh, shout out. That's 202 million. Look at the other one. Yeah. On a $70 million budget. We what? It's crazy. The film industry here that Patch Adams at 70 mil made 202

It's all just on rubber noses Wow, but look at the other movies here. Yeah the six cents The matrix big daddy Blair Witch project American pie. Yeah Blair Witch, bro. I know that cost what? $200 what 70 million for bad shadows It's cocaine for having Williams. I don't think we needed 70 million to put a bear on cocaine and kill Ray Liotta That way that cost 70 million? 70 million for Patch Adams?

Dude, 90s film industry was wild. What was in that movie? Okay, Britney Spears is on here. Baby One More Time was the number one song. Yeah. How old, you're eight years old here? Yeah, bro. Oh no, not even, I'm still seven. What's- Everywhere you're eight years old here. Yeah, bro. Oh, no, not even I'm still seven. What's what everybody 24th?

What's seven-year-old O'Shea doing right now? Probably heavily in the Godzilla Heavily in the Godzilla really yeah That's just a dream come true. Yeah, that was it was a dream that and obi-wan You've got two things that you love and like now WWE flew me out and basically paid me to play video games the other day. That was insane But we Godzilla like I was so excited to get Godzilla Like I was so pumped and then I remember my first day of work. I'm driving in like I'm getting my head right like man

This is dream come true, and then it hit me I'm not in like I'm getting my head right like man. This is a dream come true, and then it hit me I'm not gonna see Godzilla there No, I don't see yeah Yeah, I'm just running away from like blue walls in a tennis ball like for like three months Is that hard yes sucks like you have to make sure everybody's looking at the same random object on a blue wall You're running from nothing. Nothing. And the director, Mike Doherty, shout out to Mike, he would set up speakers around set

so he can like make the creature roar. If ever he saw us just like, like he wanted to get us like scared. Yeah. And like you got effects and stuff, but yeah, it was garbage. It wasn't like the funnest thing. And then, you know, we had our weapons training and all that stuff, you know, the Green Berets and shout out Colonel Hans Bush.

But the big bad in that movie is King Ghidorah, the three-headed dragon. And Ghidorah, whenever he's on screen, brings a hurricane. Okay, so every time that I'm in the script near Ghidorah, whenever he's on screen, brings a hurricane. So every time that I'm in the script near Ghidorah, you have to get wet with gallons and gallons of water. There's a fan on the side that blows wind 100 miles per hour. You're trying to hear your cues,

and you only got doubles of your clothes. So you're coming in, smelling like mildew immediately. Your feet are peeling because you've been finding Godora for a week, like I told you. And yeah, it was trash. Socks wet? Yeah, everything, bro. Did you get blisters?

Yeah, real bad. And then after we trained that week of nights and your feet are peeling and you got a layer of skin you didn't know you had, you go and then we do the Antarctica scene, you know what they use for snow? Epsom salt, that's great for wounds. That's great for your eyes. Yeah, it was, man, great time.

Jesus. And audiences don't care. Now what's up with this weapons training? Oh yeah, you gotta know gun safety and all that type of stuff. I mean, we're using blanks, but you every, anytime you're on a production and there's weapons involved, you gotta go through training. I got UK Special Forces training for Dina Thieves 1.

I got a Green Beret training for Godzilla, Dina Thieves 3. I don't really know what Slavko does, but he taught me how to use my gun. training for Godzilla, Denifives 3. I don't really know what Slavko does, but he taught me how to use my gun. Slavko's an interesting guy. He's a good dude though, but I don't know if he could come to the US. You're just, you're lethal with it.

I'm nice, bro. If he's got a pistol grip, I know how to work it. You can, yeah. Do you practice it? Every now and then at home like at home I was still like if I'm peeling her up now Do you know how to scat out your own house because of all this if I'm peeling around the corner? Like sometimes I'll dip in like yeah do the the stuff that you teach from training cuz you know when you're bored

You're either dribbling a basketball around the house or just like it it's just a guy thing to like do those motions. I do that every corner. Yeah, like around the corner like. But I always wonder if I'm doing the right technique. Yeah, and also after you watch John Wick, you're just doing that all the time. 1000%. And then I get in a wormhole of fucking on Instagram

or whatever, you just have guys clearing corners and then I'm clearing goddamn corners, clear, my dog. By yourself. Jesus. You know Tiger Woods does that? That's like a hobby of his. Well, so does doing like tactical training.

Yeah, what a psycho. Quite good for his eye. Tiger Woods, you sick fuck. What a guy, dude. So Keanu Reeves does it too. He's like- Yeah, but like Keanu Reeves is John Wick. He really is. Like that calm shit.

Like you're lying, bro. You're not that chill. Compartmentalization. That dude's got some demons. All right. Before we wrap up 1999, this was peak American culture here. Like Baby One More Time, Britney Spears, The Sopranos, and Family Guy premiere. John Stewart takes over The Daily Show.

Sixth Sense, The Matrix, Big Daddy, The Blair Witch Project, American Pie are all in theaters this year. Terrell Davis, MVP. Ricky Williams. Ricky Williams. Hit one for my guy. Heisman. He came on here. He's a cool dude. Let's jump into the match.

So The Rock was on the precipice of becoming a full-time megastar at this point. Fan support picked up for The Rock in 1998. He was the heel though at this time. During, for this show he was the heel. Now were you WCW or WWF? WWF but WCW like. You jumped back. I was too young to like prefer.

I was just excited to see wrestling. Yeah so like at the time I came in to like really start watching WCW, I was at the point where in my life, I thought Hulk Hogan was a WCW guy. Yeah. You know, I never saw the red and yellow. I just know this dude for being over here.

And then I think it was watching, I noticed that this dude, Scott Hall, looks a lot like Razor Ramon. And then my brother was like, yeah, he was with WW. What do you mean he was with WW? And then so I started to piece together like, oh, that's Diesel, Diesel's on. So then like now I'm like, oh my God,

these are two companies that people can jump ship. And then you start to, like, Goldberg. Brett's there, you know, like Goldberg. There, Goldberg, diamond Dallas page. So, you know, I was really into WCW, but WWF. It seemed like it was the gold standard. Yeah, dude. Like WCW seemed a little.

It's a little Pepsi. It was Pepsi. It was Pepsi. It was a little, you know, like, Hey, great. You need a soda. Yeah, Pepsi's good. But it ain't Coke. Go.

No one ever says, is Coke okay? Yeah. There's also not a amendment that is grandfathered in for the recipe or something. Right. The use of it. I just saw something about Coke. Somebody, an employee took the secret formula to Pepsi.

Pepsi took it to Cola and snitched on the employee. That's that's respect. That's respect. That's respect to Pepsi, bro. Respect to Pepsi's. Hey, we can't be not joining them. Also, Pepsi's winning in some categories. Pepsi's Gatorade. Pepsi's Gatorade and they're also Powerade's Coke. What are they? What's their are they 7 Up or Sprite?

They're Sprite. Coke is Sprite're also. Powerade's Coke. What are they? What's their, are they 7up or Sprite? They're Sprite. Coke is Sprite. Oh, Sprite's better. I think Pepsi's Sierra Mist or. The new Starry? Starry, they changed it to Starry. Starry's getting some high B's to be Sierra Mist. Yeah, I always tripped off how like.

What's 7up? 7up, it's probably Coca-Cola too. But honestly, like when I was a kid, I always tripped out on how Sprite was for basketball players. Yeah. It's like, that doesn't help you play basketball. Not at all.

Seven Up is Pepsi. Seven Up is Pepsi? Yeah. Oh, well they get both. They got two lemon lime drinks? Yeah, weird. Freaks. Go ahead, Pepsi.

Seven Up's a little tartar. Not as sweet. Okay, I feel you. I can blind taste these things like no other. Seven Up had a video game back in the day for second chances. I remember and it was kind of tight. Yeah, the die, bro. He was a swaggy little die. Yeah, bro, with the glasses, the sneaks.

And he had the sneaks. Yeah, bro. I remember that Seven Up game. Yeah. Let's jump into the match. I'm coming back for a part two, bro. This is too chill. Give us some... I was going at it and stepping up.

Some more rock love here. Yeah. Fucking rock. So his signature move was the rock bottom, keep his elbow. His moniker was the people's champ, the great one. Still is. And the Brahma bull. Yeah.

Go one on one with the great one. Look at his dad. Yep. Rocky Johnson, dude. Can you give us some rock phrases? Got any rock phrases? Jabroni? Jabroni.

What else did he say? Rudy Poo, candy ass. Candy ass. Yep. And trash. And millions and millions of the Rocks fans, dude. Hell yeah. What do you always call a piece of trash?

Yeah, a piece of trash is great Also, it doesn't matter it doesn't matter bro that was it was so big that why clef made a song about it doesn't matter It doesn't matter that was shut your mouth Gibroni Avenue shut your mouth. Yeah, no your old video games like suspended for Doing the x-POC to my teacher. Oh wow. That took a turn, bro. Well, let me pay the picture.

F**king abusing faculty? No, okay, this is like 1998, okay. Okay. Sitting there and we had to sit down while we ate our lunch before we could go play. I went to private school. Seems like standard issue. Yeah.

Mr. Callis, shout out, RIP. He was going that way towards the fence. And I went to Catholic school. Oh! He goes towards the fence. I get up and I'm like straight, suck it! Yeah! Double, triple, right?

Doesn't see. Okay. Think I get away scot-free. Right. Old Janet walking by the fucking school. Old Janet. That's a Janet move if I've ever heard of it. Waves down.

Mr. Callous tells him everything. As I'm watching, I'm sitting there eating my mom's PB&J. I'm sitting on the, watching this thing. I'm like, there's there eating my mom's PB&J I'm sitting on the watching this thing I'm like there's no way this lady's gonna say anything they both point back and points at me he starts skull walking to me yeah I'm like I didn't do anything yeah before he came he goes go to miss Anthony's office so when I got suspended for that, for narc. Right.

Snitchy McRat, bro. Snitches get stitches, Janet. Damn, Janet. I saw you a mask three days later. You looked me in the eye. Cause I didn't go for communion, so she looked me in the eye cause I was the kid in the pew.

Dude. Fucking, yeah, so wrestling. A teacher? A teacher's crazy. Like I thought you were like, like you know when you get the pass to go to the bathroom and like classroom doors are open so you see your friends. Yeah, you'd be like, what's up?

Hit one of them up. 1000% Wait, were you guys at cross or like a V? Both. You're doing both? Cross? I was doing jumps in the air and shit. That's athleticism baby.

Yeah bro, it was bad. Now you're a huge rock fan. I'm, dude. Huge. Like the rock was my guy. And funny story, I'm in sixth grade, 12 years old, you know, not at the height of my powers as Shay, but I'm getting there.

And so sixth grade, word around the school spreads like wildfire, Shay, your dad's here, Shay, your dad's here, your dad's here, Shay, your dad's here. So I'm thinking, fuck, what did I do? Like, oh my God, like this is picking me up from school is grandma business. Like my dad's not doing this too.

So I'm like, I'm fucked. I can't think of what I did. And that's the worst. Did my weed bag get out? Did he find my parts? I'm like, what did he do? What is going on? And then, so when I get outside, he's outside in the nice car.

Now we got family vehicles, four doors, but he's here in the two door. So this is the nice car. So I'm like, okay. We going, Swap? I get in the car. He's like, so how was school? It was fine.

How are you? And he was like, well, I'm good. You know where you're going? I said, no. So he drives all the way to Venice for a little kid in the valley. Venice, going to Venice at 3 p.m. Hour.

Yeah, bro, it's taking forever. You sit down at this restaurant, we're at a table that's bigger than it should be for two people. And then in walks my fucking hero, The Rock. And he just sits next to me and him and my dad have a meeting over lunch. And I am starstruck beyond belief.

I can't talk. I can't get any words to come out of my mouth. And I'm just sitting watching this dude. And while like as a kid, the memories I have from is I got a cheeseburger. He got a cheeseburger. I got a root beer. He got a diet Coke.

Thought that was weird. Wasn't really feeling that. But like- Wanted caffeine, but he didn't want the sugar. Yeah, my dad was like, dude, talk to him. Like, whose ass do you want him to kick? And I'm just like Like he signed my shirt he took a picture he paid for his meal lady came back for the change

He didn't take the change just walked out and I took his quarter and put in my pocket I put in a sandwich bag and I still have it. You still got the quarter. Damn right. What do you use the quarter? You'll never get that money back. Where's the quarter at? Oh, well, I'll give it to my mom. She has it in her safe wherever she has her safe,

but that's one of my things. The lucky quarter. Yeah, dude, it's the Rock's quarter, bro. It's the Rock's quarter. How old were you? 12. Oh, so you're in the heat of loving wrestling. Dude, yeah.

This is the biggest. I went to the Scorpion King premiere. All right. Like, I'm the rock with my guy. That's a rock fan. That's a rock fan. Yeah. I went to see The Mummy Returns twice.

He's in the movie for five minutes. This was my dude, bro. Now, at this, when he turned heel, did you hate him? I'm with him. You're with him. Yeah, to hell with Pittsburgh, whoever we are. Like, the Rock could do no wrong. And it bothered me because there were so many times

where they got the Rock being the bad guy and then they bring in some dude who they just want to be the guy. The first time Goldberg is in the WWF, he went up against The Rock. I was torn, broke my heart. Who won that match? I forgot.

Goldberg. Was he undefeated still? No, no, no, Kevin Nash messed that up. Yeah, he did, Kevin. Remember he was like, who's next? Yeah, who's next, bro? I've been waiting for him to be in the WWF forever, and the first thing he does is kick the shit out of my favorite wrestler.

Brock Lesnar, hated him. They used The Rock to boost him. Kurt Angle, hated him. Same thing. Like The Rock was the guy that like he was so up here that he can elevate the new guy coming in that you want to be considered a top star. And yeah, so if he was a bad guy, I was a bad guy. So, how come you haven't been in any of those

rock movies yet? Have you tried to get in on one of those? We got the same agent. Shout out to Brass Slater. Shout out. Now, do you want to do a, would you like to do a scene with him or a movie with him? Bro, absolutely, dude.

How is he as an actor? I love The Rock because The Rock is the rock in every movie. Every movie, he's just the rock. And it's because his star power was so big. I don't wanna see him as anything else, but he is doing this movie. I think it's like the punching machine.

What was it? It's a movie where he's playing a MMA fighter. He looks great. And this is where he wants to show his chops. So I'm super excited to see what my guy got. Cause they've been trying to trash my dude's name. Yeah. All right.

They've been trying to say that he wears the same shirt in every movie, which is probably true, but he's over a billion in box office baby. Billion. Yeah, get mad. And billions. Yeah, get bad, bro. I think it's called Moana Two.

Pfft. Rock, I'm not doing this. I love The Rock. These are these people, bro. I love The Rock. The Smashing Machine. The Smashing Machine. The Smashing Machine, I think, is gonna be a great,

it doesn't look like him. Benny Satie's directing. If you saw what he looks like dressed up, like it does not look like The Rock. And so I'm really excited to see him give his chops. And yeah, one day down the road, we're gonna run into each other. Have to, dude.

We gotta talk shit about wrestling. That's a fucking great story too. That could be part of the promotions for the movie. You guys could throw out the quarter. Yeah. Not throwing out the quarter. What do you mean, you can out the quarter yes You know I mean I don't throw away your memorabilia. No, no you I'm just you throw out the quarter for like the promo yeah

And bring it together make Foley now. Let's jump in it. What's it? Well? Can you explain Foley? I liked and I liked mankind a little bit so mankind had been in the game for 15 years Putting his body through the ringer. He wrestled all over the place He was 34 34 at this time all three of his personas made an appearance in this era mankind dude love and Cactus Jack Also, he was known for mr. Socko and soccer thing fucking soccer. So do you have any little? Siblings younger. I got a younger sister and a younger brother Fuckin' Socko. So, do you have any little siblings? Younger? Yeah, I got a younger sister and a younger brother.

I had a younger sister and I had an older brother. And I was gonna ask you with your older brother who got you into wrestling, did you guys have those little wrestling pillows? Remember like the little acro pillows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then were you the product of all the wrestling moves for your old brother.

For sure, bro. In the pool, are you kidding? And then you used. Choke clams all day. And then you did it to your sister. Oh yeah, that has to happen. So yeah, same thing for me too. Yeah, it has to happen.

My most prized possession in the world, like people don't understand when I say this, this is like my most prized possession. When I was in fourth grade, my parents asked me, first of all, killing it in academics. The pork heart was through the roof. Oh wow.

So they were like, yo, whatever you want for Christmas, we'll get it for you. So what do you want? I want the World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Championship. They were like, oh shit, okay. Luckily, at that time, WWF started to give out replicas. So they got me a replica of that same title that mankind is holding, the Big Eagle, as they call it.

And it is from 2001, so it still has the WWF logo on it. The best. I can't get another one. 2001, so it still has the WWF logo on it. I can't get another one. So like that thing, I've had it since I was in fourth grade. The leather is super soft now and it feels like the real title. It is like- I need a belt.

When I say it is my most prized possession. I want a belt. I lived with a girl and like I knew we were like, you know when a breakup's about to happen. And so I knew, yeah, we're not gonna make it. And I took two things with me before the breakup. I took my PS4 and I took my title and I dropped that shit off at my brother's house

and then we broke up. But I knew she was gonna wreck my shit. Did you put the belt like over the shoulder out the door or is it like in a bag? No, I put it in my fist and then raised it as I got in the elevator. Okay. Like the end of fucking the breakfast club.

The dropkick kid. Don't you forget about me. The guy who's going back to his parents beating him. Yeah, right. But I got this nice earring. I gotta go to my shitty life. Oh my God. These John Nelson.

80 movies, they're the best. I would have put that shit on when it walked out. I would have put it, no, you gotta put it over the shoulder shoulder for sure bro over the shoulder I have probably 11 I got 12 championship belts. That's sick. I'm a lunatic bro WWE shot, bro. They got a band me so with Sako Signature move. I used to do that to my sister with the dirty socks. She used to hate it.

What are your favorite signature moves of all time? She's two years younger than me. I mean, of course, my brother was like giving me crab crawlers, he'd hang me by my underwear, I'd give her the Saco. It was bad. I mean, this is a terrible era. I feel like the Choke S slam was like one of those moves

that for a kid, you can do it safely. And like, you're not doing DDTs properly if you're a kid. But a choke slam is like the perfect into the pool move to do. Obviously the sphere as well. Stunner, the reason why, like one of my favorite finishers of all time is the RKO, because it comes out of nowhere. The Stunner, low key, can come out of nowhere as well.

So he had to put in the kick, so people would know that the Stunner's coming, because before, he was just hitting the shit. Yeah, DDP. Same thing as Diamond Dallas Page Cutter. Yeah, the Diamond Cutter. The same thing. Also, Switch Chin Music.

Now, a lot of people wanna debate that Sweet Chin Music is just a super kit. Sweet Chin Music, you gotta tune up the band for it to be Sweet Chin Music. You don't just tune it. Yeah, that, bro. Shawn Michaels is Sweet Chin Music like that. We had Shawn on. I don't know where his great.

He was crazy. You know, as much as I love The Rock, his finishers just doesn't seem like it would knock you out. The Rock Bottom, People's Elbow for sure. The People's Elbow was just to get somebody to laugh. Was it Taker or Triple H? One of those dudes, he was just trying to get them to laugh at a house show, and then it just,

it took off the People's Elbow. But it is the most electrifying move in sports entertainment. I love the sharpshooter. Hell yeah. Or the figure four. There's an undertaker. Figure four is, sharpshooter's Brett. Brett.

And the reason why it's sharpshooter cause he's a hit man. That's the shit. So the people's elbow was made to make undertaker laugh. Yeah. You always want to try to break taker. They can't break Taker, bro. Remember when Taker took off his mask?

Or was that Kane? Kane. That was like a first time seeing like that your parents were putting the fucking gifts under the Christmas tree. Yeah, bro. I was just about to say that. Is that how he looks?

That was one of the times that No. like wrestling broke my heart. Yeah. You're supposed to look like Freddy Krueger. He looked regular. Yeah, you killed your parents in a fire. Weren't they broken?

You're like, you're a fucking liar. Dude, came up under that mask looking like Wreck-It Ralph. Exactly, looked too nice. Yeah, normal dude. Now he's a mayor. Where were you when you were watching this match? Oh, dude, I'm at home in the valley. Shout out to Arzana.

But yeah, just, just more than likely in the, in the living room, big TV. Shout out to the big TV. But yeah, at the house. Shout out to the house. You know where the big TV is. Yeah, that's the big is. The communal room. On that same television is when I watched, what's that here, 99?

It might've been, but on that same, the big TV that I'm talking about is the same TV that I watched Mike Tyson bite off Vanner Holyfield's ear. Yeah. Was that around this, that was 97. We were like, as a kid, being in around this? That was 97. We were like as a kid. That was 97. I was like, what happened?

Like all I see is dude jumping around holding his ear. What happened? They showed the replay, him spit out the mouthpiece. And I was like, oh wow, I don't think you could do that. No. As a, I'm six years old, like, oh yeah, bro. My brother had a graduation party. He was just getting out of high school.

We had a huge barbecue. Charles Tharp was there. He was like the best running back in town. I love how you paint scenes, dude. And I was sitting there, and I was marveling at how my brother's friends were all drinking beers, but Charles Tharp, the guy who was going to Hawaii

for a full scholarship, he had a Coke only. Ooh. So I was sitting there watching that and all of a sudden everyone starts going crazy. I'm like, what the fuck's going on? Mike Tyson just bit a ear off. Yeah. And apparently-

I didn't see it. I was watching Charles Tharp's reaction and what he was doing. Cause I was enamored at his playing style when I was like, I was like 11 years old. He bit somebody's ear off. And apparently. Someone's ear off.

Yeah. Against the rules. Yeah. I don't. In hockey it's only a five minute penalty. Yeah right. Completely against the rules. Now the game lead up or the match lead up.

Let me do this. So there's a bunch of couple moments that lead up. The raw. I bring the raw. I'm sure you're, this is more for audience at home. So the moments here that led up to the I Quit match between Mankind and The Rock. There was a Survivor Series where Rock beats Mankind

in the finals with this kind of a screw job finish. Yep. And this is where The Rock turned full heel and aligned with the corporation. Yeah. Then there was The Rock Bottom. At Rock Bottom, there was a rematch with Mankind, Mankind incapacitated The Rock with his mandible claw.

However, McMahon said that since it wasn't a pinfall or submission, that it didn't count, and The Rock remained the champion. Then there was Raw is War, where Mankind wins his first WWE Championship. It was a crazy match, DX was in Mankind's corner. And then The Rock came out to disrupt it. So Mankind was gonna get pinned by The Cane

and he wanted to do this I Quit match. Stone Cold came out. Oh wait, am I? I'm one ahead. So Stone Cold came out out of nowhere and got Mankind the win. But he was still kind of boys of Mankind. So then this is the fourth time.

That's when I was confused. The last moment was what I was talking about is The Raw with The Rock challenge Mankind to the I Quit confused. So then this is the fourth one. Yeah. The last moment was what I was talking about is the Raw with the Rock Challenge mankind to the I Quit match, but then McMahon was like, okay, before we do this, you got to beat Kane. And Kane was about to pin mankind. Rock comes out, fucks that up. And then Stone Cold comes out of nowhere and stuns everybody.

Yeah. I'm doing a tick. What a guy, dude. By the way, Broken Skull, delicious. Good beer. Great beer, dude. Good beer. I got to check it out. What a guy dude, by the way broken skull delicious good beer great beer good beer I gotta check it out black can will get you buzzed You know what? I used to get so mad as a kid though, cuz they'd always leave you on the craziest cliffhanger on raw Yeah, but that's how they I'd be like no five more minutes

Go back to school next next day, talk with your boys. Yeah, yeah. You don't see that, it's bullshit. And like, this is just like the genius of wrestling. Like, for The Rock, number one, The Rock's not losing at a pay-per-view called Rock Bottom. No. Get the fuck outta here.

No. But for him, for mankind to obviously have won, but a technicality is the reason why the rock kids to keep his belt. That is such a like, a essence of wrestling that you're protecting mankind by showing that like, no, he can beat the rock. But at the same time, you keep the champion, the Rock,

to push the story forward. And there's a lot of times where things like that are missed in today's programming of just like, there are ways to protect your superstars and not make it look like, no, he lost cleanly. Because when you lose cleanly, then you're telling the fans, he just doesn't add up to this guy.

But when you do things like have matches and there's a DQ finish where somebody gets disqualified, you save both parties and you're able to push the characters to. So like that is just a genius move. So I got real wrestling nerd on you right there. No, no, no Keeps it keeps like it keeps the kids like when we would go home from this like no

It was fake that shit was fucking fake Dude no, I'm not having the Twinkie today. My mom didn't pack it Okay, she gave me fucking rich pressing man Kid water cooler talk water cooler What was your favorite part of this match? Cuz I'll get I'll take you mine after I mean obviously my favorite part of this match? Cause I'll get, I'll tell you mine after. I mean, obviously my favorite part is rock winning, but I mean, how do you forget the chair shots?

See, I, I thought it was so crazy when he brought them up to the crowd, the tent, when they're like, it's 12 feet up there. Yeah, yeah. It is 12 feet. Those numbers are not real. Yeah. She was like six feet.

Yeah. But it was at Jim Rose. There was a gym. Yeah. And all of a sudden you're like, no way. Yeah. Don't do it. Don't do it.

Don't do it. Rock is going to hit him and he hits him and he goes on the speaker thing and sparks come out. Yeah. It was fucking out watching it. Now I'm like, man, the pirate, the pyrotechnic guy is really good. Yeah. You better be on that button.

Because the thing fell over, but he went under it and it didn't fall all the way to where it would crush him. So they had something there to hold it. So I was sitting there like, props guys, fucking, he's on point today. Yeah, bro, you better be. And that's why, that is why I love, in my older adulthood, now that like fully grasp what I'm watching

and what's going on and all parties involved. I respect it so much because what I do, I get cuts, I get re-dos, it's not gonna be in the movie unless it's perfect. They are doing what I do live and they might break an arm. They might tear something. Maybe concussed.

Yeah, and they have to bring it every week. And there are no like, hold on, can I get that back? It is what it is. And it determines whether or not you get pushed. It determines your livelihood, how much you can bring it. And there's so many moving parts. If you've ever been to a live wrestling event during commercials, it is a NASCAR team going on.

Everything that has to go into the production. And for you to do that with no off season, just every year, you're insane. It's Broadway with violence. 1000%, and you can see it. I mean, you can see it when you see the old wrestlers. The walks. The walks. No disrespect. We're just concerned.

But it's like the old football players. Yeah. Just look, run down, beat up. Bro, you're having war flashbacks. Look at you. Spitting up. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Just look run down beat up bro. You have war flashbacks Sorry, well you could feel the grass right there to feel it Just for some context back home an I quit match the rules are there's no DQs. There's no countouts. No stoppage for blood loss Only way to his daughter. God

Win is to make your opponent say I quit and you can win by any means and Foley doesn't feel pain. No, it's from the boiler room. Yeah. Now with that concussion. Nah, that was like everyone talks about the violence of these guys and especially this match with the blood and the eight or eleven chair hits to Foley's head but a lot of the athletic athleticism is crazy to watch like for them to time up things even when you know that they're like when you're taking a chair to the head yeah granted it could be lightly hit but a couple of those look like it could bang you and you're definitely getting a little that I've been in that world where you're kind of Yeah, but you're buzzing the tower as we talk for sure dude

So like to be able to perform a line after Tower is buzzed. Yeah, but also being the right choreography of doing this shit while being fucked up. Yeah, is gnarly. And I'm sure with adrenaline, them first two shots are like, oh man, we're doing great. Four or five is like, wait, hold on, let's dial it back. Seven, eight. You're like, Dwayne, please. Your handcuffs. As Adam Scheffner would say, assault. Yeah. You're trying to give like hands with your eyes. This is like, bro, this is what I do to feed my family. So weird times where you kind of got to take a step back for a second.

And this these chair shots, I really feel like change the game for everybody because it's like maybe we shouldn't do this shouldn't you know the last? Gnarly chair shot. I remember after this the like from the top of my head Jeff Hardy cracked the fuck out of Brock Lesnar one time where I was just like dude Yeah, are you mad at me? Yeah? Do you want to talk in the back you know so I'll tell you something Whenever we would play in Buffalo You would see this shit happen. Oh, this is exactly where Buffalo Bills mafia gets their little

Characteristics from I'm talking, I was watching this thing, I was like, this looks like Bill's mafia. Oh man. People are jumping through tables, people are getting hit over the head with chairs. It's fucking crazy. If I lost four Super Bowls in a row, I'd go crazy too. Four.

Four. Four. Tapping at the door. Dude, like as a fan, I know the pressure because like when it's, when your team's in the championship, it kind of sucks. It's kind of a stressful like, please God, please just let us get this one, let us get this one.

And then you get to the Superbowl and you lose and you're like, oh my, it's the worst feeling ever. And then you do it next year and you do it next year and you do it next year four times in a row, I throw up. Who's the Buffalo Bills equivalent in wrestling? That's good because everybody has their day some days. It took Mark Henry 15 years to get his first title. Maybe it's Mark Henry.

I don't know, but they haven't gotten their first title. There's no one mean enough on the writing staff to do what the Bills did. Do that to the Bills. I do. They don't have their first title. They've been to the dance a whole lot. And it's Bill's fault.

That's the greatest twist in sports. Bill. It was all Bill. A lot of it was. Yeah. Let me put a bow on this match. Wouldn't be a mankind rock match if someone didn't go through the announcer's table

that happy early. Of course. We talked about the speakers, we talked about the handcuffs and the 11 shots to the heads. You wanna walk through the ladder? You wanna walk through the final moment? We were watching it earlier.

Yeah, he didn't say it. Definitely didn't. It was definitely part of the arena. The best heel move ever, dude. But how could they stop it? See, they still got me mad. Yeah. They still have me fucking mad as an adult now but I don't know where to go rocky man

Let's do the aftermath real quick hit this so, you know this happened I quit match great then Not too long after the two met shortly after at halftime heat which is during the Super Bowl Yep, I remember what rock yeah the counter program Super Bowl halftime, which was Gloria Estefan Stevie Wonder What was the match with no uh, empty arena match? Going like through the kitchen and shit and mankind ended up winning that by pinning the rock with a forklift. Yep straight cheating also I Just like Super Bowl. I remember things used to happen during halftime of the Super Bowl on other channels remember celebrity death match Yeah, man bring everybody death match was awesome. It was great. Do so bad. It would start so many PR fights nowadays

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Name of the game, the I Quit match, the 11 Chair Shot, Blood in the Pond, the Rock versus the Sock. Wow, nice. Or the Secondhand CTE game. Which match do you want to call this? Blood in the pond is great. The blood in the pond, I quit match. Yeah.

The blood in the pond, I quit, because I quit has to be in there. Yeah. Because everyone knows it is that. The blood in the pond. That happened in Anaheim. Yeah, bro, I know it's great. Let's score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time?

Let's score it stakes zero to ten Decimals, okay. Oh, shea zero to ten. Oh, it didn't know it Stakes these are title implications It's also Monday night rivalry was going on here too. Yeah. I'm gonna put it... I'm gonna give it an 8.8. 8.8?

Good score. Thank you. I give it a 8. I'll give it an 8. Jack back home had a 7.6. I am a notable wrestling hater with regards to steak so it's a 4.8 I stand by it. It's scripted. It's scripted. It's me. What are you talking about bro? Some would say that Some would say the NFL is scripted our star power 0 to 10 decimals, okay

At the at the time, you know, Rock is really starting to go into the stratosphere. When you're dealing with the title of the entire company, I mean, it's gotta be at least in the eights, bro. So I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go 8.5. I'm gonna go 7.3. I'm gonna go 7.3. This wasn't at the Rock's highest. No.

And mankind, I love mankind to death, but it wasn't like a stone cold rock match. No, no, no, no, then it goes into the 10. You know what I mean? That would raise it to a whole nother level. Me and Jack both had an 8.1. Gameplay of the match, how it went. I mean, when you think about all the things.

Leather chairs. Yeah, like as you were talking about earlier, the sparks, the chair shots that completely changed the ruling of chairs straight to the head. They might've still had some time to do that stuff, but when it comes to the company meeting, this is getting played. Like, yeah, we can't do this anymore guys. They're circling the board. Um, and then for the rock to use the type of ingenuity to just beat mankind until he's unconscious and then play it through the arena. Like he said, I quit.

You just don't see that anymore. This is getting a nine from me. In front of his family. In front of his family. There's that great shot from the documentary after too where the cameras were in the locker room with him. And that shirt is ruined. By the way, shout out to Noelle Foley.

That's Meg's daughters. Me and her have been cool for years. Heck yeah. I'm gonna go with an 8.4. Love, I thought it was great. So how's the Randy month? Shout out to Randy. It's his birthday yesterday.

Yeah, yesterday. Happy birthday, Randy. Jack had an 8.9. We're Patriot stories are hilarious. I had an 8.8. I really wanna fly out to West Virginia and get him on the show. We're trying to get him.

We're getting him. Well, him calling that dude coach almost killed me while I was in the car. For six months. For six months. Almost wrecked the range over. We didn't introduce ourselves into the team until like four months later.

Motherfucker, you a player? That shit is wild. Oh hell no, this motherfucker's a player? A player, do we wait? I thought he was a coach. And he's country as fuck with his accent. Coach. It was funny.

The name of the game, we gotta score the name. All right, so is the name Blood in the Pond? Blood in the Pond, I quit match. Blood in the Pond, I quit match. The Blood in the Pond. Bro, that's a 10 for me. Blood in the Pond? That could have been a damn pay-per-view.

Blood in the Pond in Anaheim. The Blood in the Pond. They don't even call in Anaheim. The blood in the pond. They don't even call it the pond anymore. Yeah. The Honda Center. That's retro, it speaks to the violence. That's a 10 out of 10 name, bro. Pay that man.

I'm going 8.8. You're a hater. No, that's, I mean, that's a great score. Jack got an 8.4, I had a 6.0. That's a great score. Blood in the pond. I stand by it.0. That's a great score. Blood in the Pond. What do you want? I score off of cultural relevance,

and there's like 10 other matches I can think of ahead of this one, so that's six. Also in the Pond, it's like a hockey. We did the Ironman match with Shawn Michaels from the show. It was also in Anaheim, that was sick. Oh my God. All right, where does it land? You can tell I'm a wrestling fan. Look at this score a 6.9. This is a obvious

0.09 a point it where does it rank in all our games? Is this gonna go pretty high? It's our new 30th spot It's just below the Avery rule game Devils vs. Rangers. We just did that shit is rigged Falcons verse Patriots, huh? boy Is that not the best game? Is that not the best game ever? Oh 28 to 3 Frigged. Falcons versus Patriots, huh? Boy. Is that not the best game? Is that not the best game ever? 28 to three. I thought-

Wrestling writers couldn't even write that better. Bro, you used to- Wrestling writers couldn't write that better. You would used to have to go to Instagram to see people kiss their own ass this much. 28 to three. But like, my God. The people voted.

I didn't vote this. I didn't vote this. I didn't vote this. This is from the people. I'm very happy for you, Julian. This is for the people, O'Shea. I'm very happy for you. You should be proud. You're a survivor.

You know, some would say I'm a victim. I don't. Not like the Falcons. I don't believe that. Yeah. What I would say is that Travis- I can't even think. I gotta thank the other guys.

Yeah. It's all about the team, bro. 10 other men on that field. that yeah what I would say is a Travis Steve I gotta thank the other guys yeah it's all about the team bro ten other men on that field so this match this match is just ahead of the real fight UFC 229 could be verse McGregor yes stage that of a Travis completely staged and then I would say cuz you're a little bit of a puckhead here look at this one here 56 2011 Stanley Cup final game seven Bruins Canucks is the 56 game I mean that that's I feel spoken I feel so bad for any Canadian hockey team it's like some real bad juju but they will win the Four Nations Cup though that's something who gives a fuck

I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that.

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We'll be watching wrestling because I got a wrestling podcast, a no contest wrestling podcast every Wednesday. Every Wednesday. Every Wednesday, bro. Where do you get it? Oh bro, you can go on YouTube, the Rich Eisen Show channel. You can see us on Twitter at There's No Contest. And there is no contest on,

no contest wrestling pod on Instagram and TikTok. If you wanna see me, I'm at O'Shea Jackson Jr. If you want to smoke, just knock on my door. And the theater near you. And Den of Thieves 2. Pantera. You can get that on DVD. Shout out to Borat.

Uh. We get a steelbook DVD. I know, physical media. Isn't it crazy? Blue. They were getting DVD. So, you know. Are they giving out DVDs still?

Yeah, bro. March 4th. We're getting DVDs, bro know. Are they giving out DVDs still? Yeah bro, March 4th. We're getting DVDs bro. Hell yeah, physical media. I think I'm gonna go to a Blockbuster and get it. I think I'm gonna go to a Blockbuster this week. I'll go to a Hollywood video. A Hollywood, now I know you're,

that's when I know you're weird. Yeah. Weird kids went to the Hollywood videos. Hollywood video bro, listen, if Blockbusters don't have it, Hollywood video goes. You know what Hollywood video had though? They had the one section you couldn't go in as a kid. The curtain section.

The curtain section. Blockbuster never had that. That's a family. That's a family established. But I remember going to Hollywood video every once in a while. And you just take a peek at that section. What is over there?

And your dad would grab, get over here. Breasts. But anyway, Hollywood videos where I got Super Smash Brothers. Very good game. Do you remember Sega Cable? No. They used to be able, before we leave, I'll explain this. All right, shots of Sega Saturn,

that's where I thought he was gonna go. No, you used to be able to go to the cable company and you could get this attachment to your Sega and I remember we got it for like two month trial because it was free and you would get it and you would get like nine games, 10 games, they would surf it. That's like the Xbox Game Pass that comes on the TV now,

they bit from Sega. Yeah. That was from Sega. Yeah. That was years ago. That was, I think it was like Time Warner at the time. You all right, man. I remember I had to go to Belmont, California to get it. We went to, it's like, it was disgusting. Yeah.

I can imagine. Went into that little strip mall. I came out such a happy kid. Yeah, man Dude, thank you so much for coming on. I had a blast My dog den of thieves to I need a pantera. I think you're the only pictures Jersey. I'll buy now My appreciate that yeah, but I'm we got to get something on the wall. Absolutely. I'll bring merch Man, well that was an awesome show so cool, I

Love when like a guest comes and just like knows just just knows and fits right in and they get the whole thing It was awesome. He has real great knowledge of like the cult following stuff. Yes, like anime video games Wrestling he knows all that shit. How cool would to be if you're like half of my friends It to be like a school being eight-year-old and like love the rock. I get lunch with the rock. Yeah, look up to Godzilla Oh, I'm in Godzilla, you know Star Wars. I'm in Star Wars like that's fucking tight smart kid though. He's really smart Yeah, you could tell he's a smart guy

Yeah, I'm oh, I'm so glad we got some good puck talking. Yeah, it loves hot like he That's a I didn't want to ask him about his dad because this is about him And I am a fan of him and I've watched him in the Den of Thieves. I Can't wait to see him and I saw him in that Star Wars, Obi-Wan, and the straight out of Compton. I will say, like just as like a person who likes movies and filmmakers and stuff, I wish we could have talked a little bit about playing your dad is an interesting.

I know, but I think everyone's asking that. I'm sure, you know. I'm so like. Yeah. I think he enjoyed the experience. He had fun. Well, you gotta think everyone's asking that. I'm sure, you know. I'm so like. Yeah. I think he enjoyed the experience. He had fun. Well, you gotta show up on his show. I gotta go, now I gotta go talk wrestling.

I gotta fuckin'. Dude, I went down, like, I was just, I went down memory lane this show. I just, I put myself into eating like a bag of Doritos, having two cokes, thinking I'm stone cold at my mom's house on the illegal box. I will say I didn't want to say that. He grew up rich kid. I didn't grow up like that. We had we had the illegal box and we didn't have no big TV room. Your big TV was a medium size. My parents still have a goddamn tube TV. I wanted to say like, because you guys both grew up

in California, there's one one reason only why it's better to grow up in New England than it is California and it's because in the winter when there's piles of snow you can do the fucking DDT into the snow pile you can do the choke slam into this you can go full wrestling Hardcore no one's breaking. Did you hear what O'Shea said in the pool? Yeah, the pool is the best place to do all those off the diving board fucking suplex Have to disagree a pile of snow. There's nothing like that right now doing that we can do that, too You know we do we go drive two hours to the fucking bear. It's doing it relax with that all right

Do all right sorry we'll go do it on the sand on the beach. It's an Epson salt. Okay That had that Epson salt. It's gnarly. I watched these actors What they do for those shots? You know, it's crazy Freaking Tom Cruise and his stunts and Jackie Chan and so I know now I know that's completely different Those guys are in a league of their own. I know but even the like that, you know, all right, let's get into it guys It's time for the chill zone Brought to you by Coors light get Coors light delivered straight to your door

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Who we think we are here in that house? We're gonna get into a little what? Super Bowl recap Super Bowl recap. Super Bowl recap? Let's recap it. Jack put some questions together to hear about your time in New Orleans. What was the best part of your week? Best part of my week? I really enjoyed going to the Chiefs practice.

Yes, will you talk more about that? If what you can. Fucking, I get a text from the Fox people who wants to go to practice I'm sitting like I'm pretty good at Philly's practice whatever I was like no way they let me go to the Chiefs little I know I see Kansas City practice I'm like fuck I want to go check it out and you know I'm part of the fucking I'm part of the evil Empire They're gonna let me in there little DV camera in the corner. Yeah, I didn't want to say

Now joking with it I was just like man there that's cool I want to see what their operations like I want to see the crispness of their practice and I got to go in there It just brought up a bunch of memories of You know going to the local college. We went to Georgia Tech. It kind of gave me that same vibe. They were at Tulane, the Super Bowl grass, like the practice grass was nice. I remember that in Arizona and Georgia.

It just brought up a lot of comforting memories back. And then it was also great to see, you know, the great organizations of Kansas City. I mean, that's a great organization. They've been balling. I wanted to see what it looked like behind the scenes. And it was exactly what I expected. Patrick Mahomes, you know,

very professional getting his work in. You know, I know they didn't perform their best, but they looked the part. They practiced hard. They were always doing stuff. And I was really impressed. Got to met Brett Veach. He was a huge fan of the podcast. Two inch. Yeah, two inch.

He had he had a lot of stuff to say. I want him. He said he would come on games of names to to to re open that story and tell the truth about that story with Eric Stone Street in his first meeting of Tom Brady. He wants to tell the truth. I like that. What a tease. We need more GMs on the show. Yeah. And he was awesome. He was, you know, they were the hospitality from the chiefs. It was funny. A lot of the staff, like I saw, you know, Brennan Daly, he coached with us, got to spend some time with him. A lot of staff would come up to me and say, you touched it,

you know, like talking about the punt. Yeah. I was like, we fucking threw a pick the next play, guys. That's three Super Bowls ago. Like, chill. You guys, you guys are at the top right now. About to go for a three P. Chill out. Okay. But it was, it was a great experience, about to go for a three peach allow. Okay. But it was a great experience to get to go in and I would say that was probably one of the best parts. Also, we went on a fan boat tour. Fan boat tour was awesome. Shout out to, I think it was Blazing Gators or something,

I don't know. We'll put the, some in there. We didn't tell them that we were coming. We kind of just did the regular book a trip. They came and picked us up in the short bus. And then we went out to the bayou. OK, first thing I thought, this is awesome. Second thing I thought, boy.

That's some dirty, that's a dirty water, that's some dirty water. I was thinking about that song, Dirty Water by the Dirty Water, Boston. That's dirty water. Bayou is dirty water. Charles looks like you could drink. That looks like Crystal Geyser. Crystal Geyser compared to the water I saw in the bayou. Beautiful ecosystem, huge animals everywhere stench was terrible in certain areas the smell

score low beauty unreal people awesome the tour everyone awesome little dirty water was dirty yeah I'm gonna go back to the Chiefs practice real quick. What's something that they did that you were like, yep, that's something we did. What's something that they were doing and whatever you wanna say. I'll just say this. What they did that was very similar to what we did,

we didn't have any wasted time. So when your defense was out going against the scout team, like the offense technically has that time off. But what the offense was doing is you'd see the big linemen working on their blitz protections, like doing a blitz period pickup, like on that extra time. You'd see the quarterbacks and the receivers doing a scramble drill, drill.

You'd see, you know, the running backs working ball security. There was just efficient time being used, which is very similar to how we were. You really very rarely had chill time unless you were like an old guy that couldn't run anymore, like me when I'm older. But what's something they did that you was like,

oh, that's interesting. We could have done something like that Now we you know, there's there's there's multiple ways away to the top last chiefs practice question Did Andy Reed smell like hamburgers or chicken nuggets? He smelled like musk Like old man musk He was cool. He brought me up. He like brought me to him I fucking enjoyed hanging out with him for like the two seconds that I did. He made me feel like he's got that thing. He's got that thing.

I tried to reference the the fingies or the nuggies. I don't think he ate that up real well. Didn't love that. But I like that. I would make me respect him more. Yeah. Trav was cool. He came up to me at practice. I know he's been getting a lot of

headlines, but, you know, some be said that you got to tip your cap to those guys. They've been in a lot of important games last lot of years. Who's the coolest person you ran into your weekend? I think when we went to the Burt Kreischer show they were just Shane Gills was just talking about you on his podcast

Some guy came in for a hug. Yeah, I don't know. There's some guy behind Hi, I don't know. There was like a green room and I was I don't know like I didn't know everyone so you're're kinda in like alert mode. Someone could, everyone could be somebody. And I'm kinda just reading the room when I just walk into this place and I see Tyreke Hill. And so I go over to Tyreke and we start talking and you know, told you, you know, had our conversation

and there's other people that I don't necessarily recognize until after the point Mm-hmm, you know, then there's other comics like Tony. I killed Tony. I came up his last name glitch keff What is Tony Henscliffe pretty good pretty good H cliff that dude was funny I saw Hitchcliff that dude was funny. I saw Saw Nikki I saw met her boyfriend I went up to her boyfriend I go I don't know how you do it Half her bit is just Crazy talk about like how she hates him. She wants to leave him, but she's satisfied. And like that's, now I get it, there's a thing to the art.

Creative license, yeah. But like, you know, a lot of those things come from, I don't know, it's just gotta be uncomfortable. He's got, I just said, man, you got thick skin. That's all I said to him. Oh, the guy that went up to hug you, you see Tires, the Tire show? I think, so I didn't,

there was people that I didn't know, you know what I mean? I don't really remember it. This guy? I don't know, and then we were also on the side. We were on the side stage area, where I was trying to watch the show. Yeah.

Because I was getting into the bits, and I'm sober and everyone's hammered. You know what I mean? So I also have that barrier up, where there's drunk people around doing shit. So I'm watching the show, then there's like a couple people and like I'm starting I'm trying to like I'm in a joke I'm like mid joke like and I need to like concentrate when I listen to like Yeah, like I have to do math in my head to like understand the joke sometime. I'm not the brightest box of rocks

All right, so like it takes me time to digest it. You're like the smartest box of rocks. Huh? You're really smart box of rocks. Regardless, it takes me time. So I have to digest a lot of the the fucking the comic comedy. Like sometimes like Tony was making fun of like, well, 20 percent of you guys could have thought it was a racist joke.

And then 50 percent of you guys could have thought it was this and so he explained the joke out he goes for the people that think it's like this which I thought it was that kind of joke he goes you guys are like dumb like that's not where it was designed so I'm like oh you know that's the kind of shit I gotta do yeah so I thought it was funny Adam Ray he was cool as fuck he's here we gotta. Yeah, he was I keep Adam ray he was just really he was really funny and He was just cool to hang out with yeah, like we're in the green room after It is to dressed up as dr. Phil

Try to have a serious conversation like we're talking like podcasting and shit. Try to have a serious conversation with the guy. I couldn't not laugh sometimes in my head the whole time. But that was cool. Burt was awesome. Burt's awesome. Burt is jacked right now. Remember, he was on that journey when he came here.

He was on that journey. I seen the transformation of those shoulders. Enough times passed. I've seen the transformation of your fucking shoulders and that gut, that's a fucking, that's a strong gut. Like I was touching it. That thing's like fucking, that's like some Vince Wilford gut. They're like ab gut.

We'll clip that up and I'm sure he'll share that It's like ab gut. It's like where it's hard. It's not like it's fucking fat. It's like a hard muscle Dude, I that was that was a fun experience and it was cool. Where is away from everything. I think it was at like Louisiana State University or New Orleans University. That wasn't at Tulane. The practice was at Tulane. Then I actually at the at the practice. I went and looked at the baseballs.

I wanted to go take BP with the kid, the boys. They offered it to, but I had to leave with Fox. But back to where the comedy was, the show, that was away from everything. So it was kind of cool to get away And go through new orleans. So real quick just to put a bow on this Shane gilson his podcast said that his drunk friend who is who stars in tires try to hug you and you said He says can I give you a hug and you said why why my question to you is what could he have me I do I think I may remember that what why is this guy want to give me a hug what

could you what could he have said in that moment that you would have actually given him a hug I don't know you can't always something answer I mean yeah like I watch a big fan get a hug probably Probably, give me an answer, anything. It's not that hard. You just gotta have a reason. But if it's a bullshit reason, then, like give me some, give me some. I'll yes and no some, why don't you give me some?

I just got fired today. That's like a half hug. Like all right, that's one of these. That's on the side. Like hey, all right, dude. That's like a half hug. All right. That's like, hey, that's an arm around. What if I was a fan of you before 2013? Yeah, dude, get over here. Come on.

Let's bring it in for the real deal. What if it was a stat or something? Give me something. You can't just come in. Give me a fucking I was at a game. I saw you this or that. I was at the game where you housed a pun or What about I just ordered Coors light from Coors light comm slash GW and give me a kiss

All right, that's great any any other things from from the Super Bowl I didn't even get to watch the halftime show It was cool. It was good Sam Jackson was in it. That's tight I know I saw the picture but the audio was out where we were watching the game We were watching it under the bleachers in this like made green room Which was awesome kind of snuck out and watched it for a little they were kind of like it's Super Bowl is like four knots With all the security credentials this that the other yeah, particularly this I didn't want to deal with it so like I I went to the bathroom and I peeked my head out and watched a little of it and went back in and watched the

halftime show with no audio It feels like the worst possible experience. It was delayed because I can hear it from outside It was like right above me So like I was trying to put it together in my head the whole time like but I was like this is like two seconds off and then I would be like is it before or after he said oh it's after no it's before those beats all come got to hit up awesome let's I feel like that's a successful chill zone segment yeah great restaurants great food do you have an early prediction for the Super Bowl next year in San Francisco early prediction no hard before free agency hard before the draft yeah dude what

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