Games with Names - "The Immaculate Reception" with Terry Bradshaw | 1972 AFC Divisional Round: Raiders vs. Steelers

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

Terry Bradshaw joins us in studio! Together, we’re diving deep into “The Immaculate Reception.” As far as a game with a name goes, does it get much better? Terry joins us on the couch (3:00). We take a look at what was going on in January of 1972 (36:20). We dive into each of these Hall of Famer packed rosters (1:07:30). We get into the game (1:28:12). We wrap this thing up with a score (1:56:21). And last, but certainly not least, we hit the hotline to answer some voicemails (2:11:55). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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back-to-back, back-to-back Super Bowl champion, which they don't do back-to-back no more. Two-time Super Bowl MVP, Terry Bradshaw. Who is the better quarterback, Tom Brady or Terry Bradshaw? I am, of course. Or as I like to call him, Uncle Terry. I'm Terry Bradshaw. Wow.

You're naked in my room. This is my naked room. Today we're looking at the 1972 AFC Divisional Round Raiders versus the Steelers, the Immaculate Reception Game. It's the greatest play in the history of the NFL. Hit the ball! Let's go here! Fire the ball. I hit the ground. I hear the roar of the NFL. Hit the ball! Uncle Harry has it! Fired the ball.

I hit the ground. I hear the roar of the crowd. I got a couple of Raiders on top of me. Well, excuse me for throwing a perfect pass. He caught it out of the air and ran for it. He's shitting me. Jack, don't be intimidated. Uncle Terry, he got it.

That's why I love you, Uncle Terry. Shut up. Ah! Uncle Terry, he got... That's why I love you, Uncle Terry. Shut up. Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names presented by Winbet. On today's episode, we are talking possibly one of the most famous plays of all time, the immaculate reception, Steel versus the raiders with uncle terry terry bradshaw one of the most infamous plays in nfl history so many theories did it happen did it touch the ground was it called on the rules all that we get into it with terry or as i like to

call him uncle terry um we also get into Terry getting naked. Is that how he said it? He said naked, naked, naked, and naked with Matthew McConaughey. Wild story. Wild story. Wild story. I mean, the guy's got, I mean, he was telling us he's hanging out with Bradley Cooper. He's got Matthew McConaughey, singing records, horses.

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from WinResorts. Let's go. December 23, 1972. Three Rivers Stadium 23rd, 1972. Three Rivers Stadium, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The out and one with 22 seconds left. Fourth down from our own 40. Boy, do we need a miracle. Terry Bradshaw scrambles to the right.

He lets it rip. Ho, ho, ho, ho. And the rest is nfl history this is the immaculate reception or down home reception and welcome to games with namesames presented by Winbet. Today we have a very special guest. Oh, you do, for a fact. We have Terry Bradshaw, or as I like to call him, Uncle Terry. Uncle T. And I'll get into that, but this guy, Hall of Famer,

four-time Super Bowl champion, back-to-back, two years off, back-to-back Super Bowl champion, which they don't do back-to-back two years off, back-to-back Super Bowl champion, which they don't do back-to-back no more. Number one overall pick from Louisiana Tech. There you go. Louisiana Tech folks. Say it with pride. Number one pick. Everybody's number one pick. 1970 NFL

draft. Everyone just thinks, oh, Terry Bradshaw, this is a running football team. 1978 MVP of the league. Two-time Super Bowl MVP. Done your work. Oh, it's on the screen there. No wonder you're so good. It's on the screen.

I was impressed for a minute, and finally I looked up at the screen. Oh, keep going. I can read this. Yeah, yeah. And my teammate at Fox, welcome to Games with Names, Uncle Terry. Thanks, Bob. I appreciate you coming.ames, Uncle Terry. Thanks, Bob. I appreciate you coming. Oh, I wouldn't have turned this down.

When you asked me, what, two months ago, I said, I'm in. Yeah. I wouldn't miss this for nothing. I was more curious than anything. You know what? And how Uncle Terry just said that is exactly how he is. You know, I came into Fox early, and first day there, Terry put his arm around me,

and he just felt like the uncle that was always pushing you, and he tests you now. He doesn't just, you know, he's got his whole persona where he's having fun and stuff, but he keeps you on. He keeps you on his game, because you kind of test me whenever you're around. Well, first of all, I have a good instinct for people. And normally my first instinct is pretty much spot on. And the minute that I met you, instead of calling you Julian,

I called you Julian. But it was, I like this guy. I like this guy a lot. And he's a former Patriot with Brady. I watched him play. The catch he made against the Atlanta Falcons in Super Bowl whatever. Yeah. I was right there.

I was 30 feet from it. You gave us a trophy. Yes. And the catch was, and I've told you this several times, best catch I've ever seen. Best catch I've ever. And if you put it and place it in the context of which it was made in the Super Bowl on a drive to tie the game up.

Tie the game up. Not to win it, to tie it up. And I'd just seen Julio Jones make an amazing catch four feet from me. So I saw two of the greatest catches ever I've ever seen. And so when I had a chance, when you came on with Fox, I was so excited because I wanted to see what these Patriot people are all about. And you have not disappointed me. You're making me blush. You're making me

warm inside. I gotta take your jacket off. I gotta take this thing off. I gotta take this thing off. Hey, Uncle Terry, you're making me. Hey, I was Michael Strahan before Michael Strahan. He is. Uncle Terry making me blush, man.

Isn't that a beauty right there? That is a That right there my friend Good looking guy Sexy guy Good looking guy No Now you've been

You've been awesome And I appreciate you man Cause it Thank you It's You know you're You're the big dog

You guys Your group You know They let me Let's just put it in context for the people. They let me come in and watch the games with you guys. And I've learned so much just from being a fly on the wall. And I'll throw a couple words in here and there.

You don't want to get in the way of the vets because I'm a rookie in this whole goddamn thing. And I know I'm the rookie. Can you say that on your podcast? You can say bad words. Rookie? No, not rookie. Oh, you can swear. Yeah, we can say shit. Fuck.? You can say bad words. Rookie? No, not rookie. Oh, you can swear. Yeah, we can say shit.

You can fuck. You can say it at all. Can we pray right now? I'm Jewish. Okay. We going to Abraham? We going to you? What do you want to go to your guy?

And Moses? We can do it all. I mean, it is. We are studying the book of the Exodus right now where we had the Moses talks to the burning bush. It is that time of the year. Oh, that's a Jewish thing right now? The Old Testament.

Yeah, I love the Old Testament. The only thing I had a problem with the Old Testament as I read it was how when God got angry, God got angry. He killed animals, babies, Wiped them all out. My wife and I were studying together, and we both got sick of our stomach because we were reading. And I'm just like, wow, man. Brutal.

Rough. Tough people. Rough. It's one thing to learn from. I love the book of Exodus. Yeah, it's awesome. Jeremiah, Jezekiah, Humadiah, Lameelalah, all those books. of exodus yeah it's awesome you know hey jeremiah jessicaia humadaya uh lami lala all those books let's let's let's forget about the books move on the books today we're looking at

the 1972 afc divisional round raiders versus the steelers now let's put let's put it into context for the people this is the first playoff game ever for the Pittsburgh Steelers in the whole merger situation. I mean, back in the championship days when they were around, 1933. So they've won, but when it came down to it, this is their first playoff game against the Raiders, which the Raiders have. It's their first playoff game of anything.

Anything. They had 40-something years of wandering in the wilderness, if you want to put it in that context. And never really had. They had exciting teams, but never could win anything. It was one of those teams that when teams would play them and they would beat them and everybody knew they were going to lose, the opposing team would say, gosh, boy, what a tough game.

They're the physical. And, you know, that was always their compliment. Oh, they're physical. They're hard to beat, but you always beat them. And here we are. We had just beaten San Diego the week before to get into the playoffs. Fouts? Will Fouts actually?

Or is that Willie? I'm not sure who the quarterback was. It wasn't a matter. We still beat them. Yeah, he's beat them. Anyway, we go to Pittsburgh in this game, and it was bad weather, frozen field, whatever. But we weren't – we didn't know what we wanted frozen field, whatever.

But we weren't – you know, we didn't know what we wanted to do, Julian. And it's kind of like Green Bay going down to Dallas with this young team they have. It's like we've had a great year, and the Steelers have had a great year, and we finally make the playoffs. And the Raiders are the Raiders of the 60s before the merger in 69. And so I played against these guys my rookie year. And George Blanton was MVP in the league playing quarterback and leading the Raiders back from victory and kicking field goals to win games.

But he was a straight-on kicker. He was MVP in the league. I remember standing up on the sideline my rookie year because I'd seen these guys on TV in the OEFL. Yeah, yeah. And I'm watching them, and they're just, you know, they're just, you know. They got the persona. It's the Raider culture.

Oh, man, the smoke cigars in the locker room. Exactly. They were crazy. Nobody was in shape, you know. The parties. Exactly. So I was just in awe of them. My rookie year, 72, different way of looking at the Raiders,

but we got them at home. And this tells you how the game has changed. In 72, they put one camera light in the locker room, one little camera light, so they could shine the light up. So if we won the camera cameras would come in you need to be able to have lighting on the players one camera light on a platform yeah eight by eight and i thought wow wow this is big big big game hey playoff game see it's little things that mean big things and i was just like if we win they'll come in here and then See, it's little things that mean big things. And I was just like, if we win, they'll come in here.

You know, it's like, yeah. So that's how that whole thing was set up for me. God, can you believe it? We could win the Raiders, you know? And so we chose this game to talk to Terry about. And this is the Immaculate Reception game. Let's get into that. We'll get into everything right there that we're talking

about, but we're just starting this thing off. Now, are we... While we're filming this, has this got a time frame? How long will it... This has zero time frame. Zero. So you play this as... We could play... We cut it up. We do little stuff here and there. Do you airbrush or Photoshop anything?

We'll do that for me. You look like a porcelain doll over there. I thought you were like a little Russian porcelain doll. No, no, no. Uncle Terry? I don't want to be that, but if you could clean me up a little bit, I'd appreciate it. You lost like 30 pounds during the year that I met you.

I've lost 30 and then got 30. I feel like the first thing I said when I was showing horses two weeks ago, and they have a picture, and they put it in this magazine, and the first thing I said is, look at my fat ass, babe. And she said, I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say that. That's the first thing you looked at. I said, well, look at that.

She said, so why did we pick this game, the Immaculate Reception? Well, it's the most famous play still voted on by whomever, sports writers or coaches or fans, as the greatest play in the history of the NFL, which is, we're talking 100 years of history. So it's pretty amazing. Hard to believe it's still the number one play because, as I said, there are a lot of plays.

But I think because of the history, Julian, of the Steelers and eventually the rivalry between the raiders and the fact that had so much controversy in it the fact that the owner art rooney left the press box went to the locker room to stand up and shake our hands afterwards telling us hey great season great season he didn't even see the play. He didn't know we won. Yeah. Wow. I guess for all of those reasons, that's the reason why. So we're all super excited about this game. When we kind of came up and developed the idea of the show.

Who is this guy? That's Kyler. That's Kyler, and that's Jack. I'm a little intimidated. I mean, I got like the vet in the locker room at the house right now. I don't think it's good good to be interrupted me while i'm talking be honest with you i'm right there with you don't do that he's a rookie i'm even less of a rookie tell him he will on the totem pole you so with developing this show

games with names we were thinking of two games when we came up with this thing these are the games that most iconic nicknames immaculate reception was one miracle on the ice is the other and we're so just excited that you're here to be able to do this game with you so just we're These are the games with the most iconic nicknames. Immaculate Reception was one. Miracle on the Ice was the other. And we're so just excited that you're here to be able to do this game with you. So we're all just over the moon here. So we can't wait to really kick into this. So welcome to the show, Jack. Don't be intimidated.

Uncle Terry, you got a loud bark. But he ain't got much of a bite. No, no, no, my bark has got a smile to it. I mean nothing like it. That's why I love you, Uncle Terry. Shut up. No, no. You see how he is.

You see how intimidated he is. And I was like the new guy on set. And I'm not even on their set. I'm in the AAA. They're at the big show. That's good, by the way. Yeah, you guys, I'm in the AAA team team and I get to sometimes go in the locker room. And it's so apparent that you, Jimmy, Howie, Michael have such a close group, like very over the years.

How did it become that close? Because you guys started this thing. This is you guys started Fox. It started with Howie, Jimmy and my Howie, Jimmy, and myself and Jimmy. And then after three years, we all knew Jimmy was going back to coaching. He wouldn't say anything that had a bite to it. He was very protective, and so you just knew. But he started, then he left for five years and came back. So that's really been the foundation. Howie and I are basically the longstanding foundation

because we started from scratch and we're still there. And then the show, when Jimmy came back from coaching Miami, he decided then to be a part of a pregame show and to be part of it, really part of it. In other words, football's over coaching-wise. Now he's going to be in television. That's when Jimmy became so much fun, so loving, so kind, believe it or not,

and a true partner. Howie and I built our relationship. We did not – it was not smooth sailing. It was always a little bit of a of a of a i don't want to say ego because we buried those egos but we had differences of how to do things and i'd been in television a long time before how we came on board and howie and i literally worked ours out and became like brothers now yeah and did that fairly quickly and so our understanding of how to do the show

and jimmy's understanding and then jb james brown who was with us and started he was our kurt menifee he left and went to cbs i worked with jb yeah and then kurt came on board and kurt kurt was the best thing to ever happen because kurt's a football fan. Kurt's a football man. Yeah. He knows football. Not that JB didn't, but JB nowhere near like Kurt. And then the funny thing about Michael Strahan, Michael was with the Giants, and I got a phone call in the offseason saying, hey, what would you think if we went after Michael Strahan

and signed him to a contract to be on the pregame show? I said, I interviewed Michael a couple, three times. I like him a lot. He's got a big personality. We had him on the show during the season. I think that'd be a great addition. Absolutely. So he called Howie, same thing.

Called Jimmy, same thing. Everybody, come find out they'd already signed him. It wasn't whether or not we. I wish. Howie and I have talked about this. I wish we'd have known they'd already signed him. So we would have gone. Are you kidding me?

Strahan? While that egomaniac there's no. I wish we'd have known that so we could have just. And Fox would have gone. Well, we've signed him. Yeah. Just imagine. It would have been fun. It would have been fun well, we've signed him. Just the method. It would have been fun. It would have been fun if we'd have known that, but obviously we didn't.

But when Michael came on, we had Howie was our young guy, very studious player, very decorated player, Hall of Famer, actor, good-looking dude, big following. Jimmy, coach. You always got to have a coach. Big personality, strong opinions. Then Michael brought in a brand-new, fresh, young voice. And I've always been Uncle T.

Uncle T. I've always been the guy that just sits there and kind of makes you laugh. And I kind of like watching the kids play in the yard, and I'm over there drinking coffee going, all right, kids, it's time to come in this house now. You better get on in here and eat your dinner. It's been so cool to, you know, when you go in there and we're watching those games, you see how guys are.

Yes. And you can see we were never in a locker room together, but you can see what kind of guy the guy was in the locker room. Right. You know, Howie, he's very serious, like always on edge, like kind of like just surrounding, like he's always analyzing the surroundings. And then, you know, Terry comes in and he'll crack a joke. He'll slash a whip here and there,

but he'll crack a joke just to kind of lighten the mood if things are going. And then, you know. I normally, Julian, like to sit back and be entertained. Yeah. I don't really try to add a whole, especially in the mornings. Yeah. Because they go off. And I just sit back there and I'm entertained by it.

I mean, and Howie, believe it or not, Howie is a funny dude. Yeah, he is. Howie's funny. You're just not going to see that unless I mess with him on the show or something because one time I told him we're doing this show, and Jimmy started something, and Jimmy said something that's funny, and Jimmy started laughing at what he said. So Michael starts laughing.

I start laughing. And then Michael adds to Jimmy. Michael's laughing at what Jimmy said and Michael's laughing at what Michael said. Now I'm laughing at both of them because it's some funny stuff. And it's my turn on television. We all know when we have to talk on camera. So then I

add something to what michael said to what jimmy said now three of us are laughing and we're beating the daz down because seriously we think we're rodney danger i mean we're we think we have really entertaining the millions out there and then it goes to how and how he with all this chaos going on. You know, the outside linebacker, Bucky Buck, has got a sprained ankle, and he won't be starting, but Spinal Cord Johnson will be taking his place against the Buffalo Bills this week. Really? And I'm thinking, we're hooting and hollering,

and he's talking about Spinal Cord Johnson and Buck. And I'm like, he couldn't even join in. So we go to commercial break, and I'm staring at him. So he turns and he looks at me and he goes, what? You know, like, yeah, I can see it. What? I went, can't help it, can you? Help what? you're boring and we started laughing and nobody knew what we were laughing at

i couldn't help myself i'm just really you got to bring this down. But that in effect, what he did was funny. Yeah. You know? No, it's an awesome dynamic to watch. And it's been a pleasure just to get in and let you. We like having you in because I think it's good for you. You got a pretty good crew over there. And I think it's good for you to see that we truly do care about one another.

It's a locker room. We enjoy one another. we enjoy one another we enjoy one another and you better not come in there with something that's easy easy fodder because jump on it man they will they will brutal you know i've learned so much on how you know they watch the games and then they take what they take and what they look at and how they communicate to each other about what they're going to talk about going onto the camera. Like that's been so helpful for me and my show. You have to always remember, even while we're doing a podcast, I'm not talking to football players or NFL hall of famers or coaches or general managers or owners. I'm talking to America. I'm talking to the guy that has a hard job trying to make ends meet,

trying to take care of his family, provide food, save enough money to get a new car or save enough money to go on vacay. I'm talking to that guy. I'm not talking to anybody else. So you talk to that person. They are the ones that look back and they're the ones that look back, and they're the ones that accept you. Now, if you talk above them, and if you try to be smart and cool, they're not going to like you. They're just flat, not going to like you.

And the camera, believe it or not, and I've told my wife this, that camera captures who you are. You don't realize the three red, four red lights here, but that camera will tell America, you're not a nice guy. You're a phony. So you best be real. So you talk to the people. And I think a lot of times people that don't know television or football shows and there are God knows hundreds of them now with all the, so where is the fresh information come from? It comes from us giving our perspective on something and not just absolutely filling it with stats.

Stats are, I hate stats. Now they do play a role. A nugget. You know, they do play a role, but I've tried every year, I think, more and more to not talk about anything that everybody knows talking about and it's almost impossible to do yeah but at the age of 75 i can pretty much go wherever i want to go now and they'll and like how he says they'll go, what'd he say? What'd that mean? I don't know, but shit's funny, wasn't it?

Now that you said that red light, when those lights are on, it shows you who you're going to be. What do you think about it? Do you remember your camera? You got a camera over there. Oh, yeah. You know where your camera is? I do.

I've been doing television 43 years, and they're gone. Because I'm talking here, and I'm supposed camera over there. Oh, yeah. You know where your camera is? I do. I've been doing television 43 years, and they're gone. Because I'm talking here, and I'm supposed to be here. I had a thing like that this year, my first show. I'm looking at the camera. I was looking at, you know, you have your camera, and I'm looking at the wrong one. I was like, where's my camera? I set it on air.

Actually, well, you know what? America loves that stuff. Yeah. Even at my age, and I'll I'll say oh is that my camera there I don't know what was over here and then it's still live and people back home

are going that's some funny shit he messed up Terry what's America going to think of Tom Brady when he gets up in there I don't know is Tom Brady

going to be Tom Brady is he going to be somebody else I don't know Tom Brady will Tom will Tom call the game? I guess he's doing games, right? He's doing games.

Doing games. Well, he certainly got the ability, but will he be able to break it down? Will he understand how to? His IQ's there. It's more of the EQ that we're talking about. Is he going to be able to relate? I'm interested. Because the guys, it was hard for

me to come on and when you watch football whenever i'm watching football i'm looking at the negative things really yeah i'm saying all right well tackle got beat on that now i do know that when we're watching football you're always critical of the wide receivers i do know that i picked up on that yeah yeah i mean well like you but i get it that's what you know but that's what we were taught or no that's what we went through for me 12 years i got told the wrongs and why the play didn't work if it was if the play worked that was expected right so now you have to like transform your brain and now and not be the pessimistic type guy when you're on the the camera talking like oh that's wrong that's a mistake if you're pessimistic then that's a

mistake you should you should i i i tickle it i'm talking don't interrupt me sir don't ever being negative is not good yeah because then people don't like you. Yeah. Because they are always expecting negative. Yeah. I mean, you look at it, I'm going to say wide receiver, you know the game. I know defense more than I know offense because as a quarterback back in the 70s, we studied defense. We read coverages. We weren't 1-2-3, 1-2-3.

We weren't progressions. We were readers. And so I was taught defense. I hardly ever had a man go in motion, ever. I very seldom if ever had single back set. Always two. Tight end right, tight end left. Wide receivers never flop sides.

They stayed on the same sides. We all read coverages together. We all read blitz together. I saw a blitz. They saw a blitz they saw a blitz we where the route was inside or outside the predicated bump and run or off coverage where the route was going on blitz i saw it he saw it if he messed up interception if i messed up interception so we had to read it the same way that's how i was taught the game i know very little about multiple offenses like you do but the the camera, if you're negative all the time, that's not good.

I'm not saying I'm negative. I'm just saying. You said you were negative. It's the coach. Did he not say he was negative? I think you're being kind of negative right now, Terry. I thought you were very negative. I honestly didn't know you.

You were so defensive. It's not that. I can tell because you got a vein in your forehead, and right now it has popped out. I honestly didn't know you. You were so defensive. It's not that. I'm going in. I can tell because you got a vein in your forehead. Right now, it has popped out. That's a dead giveaway, isn't it? A dead giveaway. I'm just negative.

But going back to, you know, Brady was in New England for 22 years. Yeah. The guy's watching. And so when he watches film he's probably thinking and i've watched film with them you know like all right well we didn't do good here we then this is the reason you have to flip your brain when you get on tv and and and you have to like not worry about what was wrong you have to kind of show the great of what the plays are. So that's what I was trying to say. Okay. You know, with Brady, you know, he's a perfectionist.

So how is he going to break down the film when he's a competitive guy, you know what I mean? Right. So when you go into calling games, the research that he's going to have to do, it's going to be interesting to see how it translates. And I understand, you know i i don't know tom as i said i've interviewed him a couple of times um but when tony romo came on board he was

guessing plays yeah and everybody just jumped off on oh my god and he was right a lot now he doesn't do that people got mad at him yeah and after but when you start when you don't get it right, you know, you don't get it right, that's not good, especially if you start getting a bunch of them wrong. If Tom comes in and Tom, just do the play. Yeah. Now, there's situations that set up, and Tom, you know, just do the play. Why this and why that? We can all see he caught the ball.

Now, why was that guy open? And this is where Brady will be going here. When I do highlights, I have to do them fast, but I also can see enough to know that, oh, he got an inside release. There's no safety there, so it's wide open, and he straightened out the post and made it, you know, skinny post, what they call it, skinny. So I can see enough stuff that I can have some fun teaching just a little. so it's wide open, and he straightened out the post and made it skinny post, what they call it.

So I could see enough stuff that I could have some fun teaching just a little. Never throw a bubble screen on a guy that's in bump and run. They do it all the time. Why? They can't get out of the play. It's called from the sidelines. Tom will see this and 10,000 things more than I did. I was not a student of the game.

There wasn't that much back then, nothing like now. So Tom will learn all this in time if he puts the time in. He will. And he will. And the more comfortably, and America's got to like him. They're going to love him, number one, just because he's Tom Brady. I mean, everybody is waiting. Waiting.

Waiting, and that's a lot of pressure on him, but who can handle it better than Brady? That's what my dad said. Pressure is either make diamonds or bust your pipes. Which one's it going to be? Yeah. When I started broadcasting, I was in the booth doing games. I remember. And it was horrible.

You got to, like, break down the game like you're playing. You got to study now. Yeah. No, but it's different. Well, now we have to do synopsis for all these games. Yeah. And you've got 20 seconds. What people don't realize, you better narrow your focus down to one point. Make that point in 20 seconds.

Don't sit there and try to squeeze. Because if you don't, on our pregame show, sometimes Jimmy will go too long. I'll tell you what's funny is when you've got to say, and you've got it, you know, and it's important, and you start, well, I don't know what they're going to do in Philadelphia. They, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, they, they would think, uh, they, uh, and we're all going.

We start laughing. And he goes, oh, man. And the Strahan, we've all started. Michael Strahan was funniest ever. He goes, well, they're going to, you know, they want to try to do this, and he's got this move going up and this move going out. That's the one point I really wanted. And the second point, the second point, the second point,

I forgot the second point, the second point, the second point, I forgot the second point. We just fall out laughing. But in television, it's okay to not be perfect. It's okay to be humble. Be humble and be humbled with it. And America goes, how many times do I screw up names on highlights? I screw up names. Please? I screw up names. Please.

Never, Uncle Terry. You seen those names, those guys, those Hawaiians? Yeah. Oh, I pray for a nickname. Bubba. Tonga Talavola. Oh, my God. I mean, I just butcher them.

ETN, I like to have never learned. ETN is hard. ETN, when you look at it, it doesn't look like ETN, I like to have never learned. ETN is hard. ETN, when you look at it, it doesn't look like ETN. No. So I mess up a lot, and people are saying, you've got to get him off the highlights. And I think Fox is going, oh, them highlights are funny. No, you're hiding.

But the point for Tom is I'm sure he's watching. I'm sure he's observing, studying. You just don't want to be too mechanical just want to just let us see tom people want to know what tom's got to say yeah i know i do and and you know it's going to be fun to watch it it's reps too i bet you'll get better as it goes absolutely you know i mean it's it's man, how many times when that light comes on and you've got to say, welcome to Philadelphia today.

We've got the Giants in town. And boy, am I looking forward to seeing quarterback for the Giants. He's going to be, he's going to, boy, he's going to knock it out of the, well, not knock it out. He's quarterback, but he's going to, boy, it's going to be, hey,

it's going to be a great game. And you just go, what the fuck? Where did that come from? What is that? I've done that so many times. And that light comes on, that brain goes void. I mean, because you're taught. Television, you're taught.

David Hill said, look at the camera and talk to the people. It's easy for me to do that to you and look over here what's your name again tyler tyler jack right it seems to me it's tough to these guys but when you narrow your focus down to camera two and they say go and you go i mean it happens we don't funny man you know i it inside the NFL, and it was live to tape. And I remember my first, they really don't give you any, you know, like my first day on the job. There's nobody helping you.

They don't tell you shit. No. They just say, what do you think? Yeah. Light went on, and thank God it was live to tape. I was like, you know. It's so funny. We had Phil Simms on the CBS Today show,

and we knew he wanted to go into television. So we had him over there, and the producer came in our ear and said, we're going to pretend like there is a blackout because of storms in some city, and we're going to go right into, well, we got a technical problem in Atlanta, so we got more time here on the show. What we didn't. It was all nothing. So we got this in our ear to mess with Phil.

I said, Phil, so before the show started today, you were telling me that you and Bill Parcells are having problems, that y'all don't get along at all in the meeting. Is that true kid oh no no no absolutely not well it was true but it was not live or anything he didn't know that and he man you talk about funny just set him up and let him go boy so those things happen and that's good times in tv he probably called uh old parcel as a communist oh mr sims love dropping the communist i worked with him i worked with him he goes these

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and we like to talk pop culture about what was the era of when the game took place. Number one movie was Jeremiah Johnson in 1972. You remember that movie? Yeah. I remember that movie.

Which one was that? What's his name? Robert Redford. I was accused of looking somewhat like him, minus the really good beard and the full head of hair and the good looks and everything. Do you know what a meme is, Terry? Who?

A meme. No, I don't know what a meme is. So that's a viral meme. That shot right there. That's a meme? Yeah, it's M-E-M-E. It's kind of like GIFs. It's not meme-y. No, no, no. What is it again?

The internet captures little things of movies or pop culture or anything and they use it for like an expression in text or something. So that right there. Is a meme. From Jeremiah Johnson is like one of the most popular memes. Really?

On the internet right now. And why is that, I wonder? Because he's a good looking dude? Well, because people will say like, your friends are having a party and you guys are texting about it, and one of your friends just sends this picture. Hold it, hold it, hold it. My friends don't text.

All right? They don't text. And we don't, damn sure don't know what a meme is. I'm sorry. Maybe it's your age group. You're not even 40 yet. yeah see there you're you're dragging me into something that's going to make you look good and me look bad and i don't appreciate it what are you talking about you know what i'm talking about you did that meme thing just to piss me off no i didn't yes you did uncle terry uncle terry i'm just trying

i'll take the bullet for this one i sent sent that meme this morning, by the way. I know. Did you? Unironically. I will say this. I will say this. My kids are going to be impressed when I said, get that meme off. Get that meme.

Get out of here with that meme. Get that meme off. I don't want to see that. There's another meme over here. Get that out of here. That could be used as a meme as well. Doctor. That four right there. Adam Vinatieri. Get that out of here. That could be used as a meme as well. Doctor. That four right there.

Adam Vinatieri. He was born in 1972. That's what we're going over right now. The Godfather was delivered in 1972. Deliverance was in 19... You like those movies? Love them. Yeah.

Godfather. I watched Godfather today, believe it or not. Today? Today. That's a three-hour movie. You just watch The Godfather in the a.m.? Well, what I didn't see, I remembered. How's that?

That means, isn't that like watching it? It is. Yeah, I did. And that's impressive, folks. Yeah, and I was watching it this morning. It's pretty cool. Love that movie. I actually sat.

Remember the movie? Oh, you don't know this. Yeah. There's no way you know. Which movie? It was Robert Redford, The Sting. You ever see The Sting? No.

Anybody? I watched it a couple months ago. Sting? Paul Newman. The Sting. Is that a great movie? Amazing. I sat.

There's a scene where the star, where the star of Shaw, Robert Shaw, is eating roast beef and peas. All right? And he's wondering, where are you getting the money, Scotty? Where are you getting the money, Scotty? And he's eating the peas. I was sitting behind the camera and Paul and Robert Redford, when they were filming that scene.

And I was standing back there, and I just met Robert Redford. I'm still playing football. This is 1970. He's big? No. Oh, he's small? Not as big as you. No, small.

Yeah, very small. Anyway, I'm standing behind him, and they're shooting this scene with Robert Shaw eating. And I'm seeing how the lighting is all fake. I mean, the room is all fake. I didn't know anything. Yeah, the set. I didn't know anything about this.

It's so cool.isiana boy over there and i'm sitting there and i'm watching this scene i mean i'm i'm from here to that gentleman over there from robert shaw doing the dialogue and redford's off camera doing his lines you know he he did his close-up, and then later after I'd started doing movies, do my close-up, and then call the master. Anyway, so he's shooting, and Redford is delivering the lines, and Shaw's going, are you, then he messes up. They say, sack, re-sack, go. Kept more peas in there, and he just kept messing up and messing up. Finally, he took the plate of peas, and he threw it.

Redford's pissed. He's mad. And I'm sitting back there going, whoa. And they had to take Robert Shaw off the set into another room. And the producer, the director's over there talking to him and I cool him down. I'm like, wow. So when it came out, I couldn't wait for that scene.

And I'm like, hey, I was right there. I saw that scene. Now, did that scene right there influence you? No. Into wanting to get into Hollywood? No. Because you've been in movies. I've been in movies.

You've been in Failure to Launch. Really? Can I act? I think you can. No. I thought the Oscars got it messed up on Failure to Launch. You should have been a supporting actor in the comedy. I appreciate that.

The Naked Room? I want to hear it. Oh, the Naked Room is historical. I've got to tell you. Very. I've got to tell you a story. So Matthew McConaughey was voted Sexiest Guy Alive that year. And you're his dad.

And I'm his dad, and I'm the one who got naked in the movie. He didn't. I did. There's a reason for that. I got a nice white butt. All right. So my mother god rust has just passed away so my mother i called my mom and she says oh baby i see your your your movies out oh

can't wait to go see it brother robert the preacher at the baptist church He got us a bus and after church today all of us blue hairs are going to see the movie and he's giving us a box lunch and I'm going no. Oh boy. Mom you cannot go to the movie. Well why not? I'm naked.

You're naked? I'm naked. No you're not. Yes I am. I'm naked No you're not Yes I am I'm naked in the movie Don't go to the movie You would not do your mama that way Yes I would and I did And she was so disappointed in me

From church I can't believe you did this to your mama How are we going to walk around the neighborhood? And I said, Mom, it's just my white butt. I'm naked. You're never fully naked because I don't think you can be fully naked. You've got to, like, have something on, you know. And that's another story, a funny story, I might add.

What something? Are you talking about? You've got to have a sock on. Yeah. Tube sock. Yeah. Yeah. And so the director.

Knee high. I wish. I wish. So the director. A little cut off? The director comes to me and he goes, you can either be naked or you can wear some boxers. Ah, that's my last movie.

I'm going to go out with a bang because nobody would expect me to get naked. I got a good image. I'm a wholesome guy, but I just thought this is just too funny. You can't pass this opportunity up to get naked. And so I said, I'll get naked. Nobody knew I'd made this decision. He says, all right, go back, get out of your clothes and get your robe and come back and we'll set the lighting all set and we'll shoot the scene. I said, okay, so I'll get back.

They take me back on a cart and I go in my trailer and I'll shoot the scene. I said, okay, so I'll get back. They take me back on a cart, and I go in my trailer, and I go into the bedroom. Well, there's three socks laid out. All right? Were they all different sizes? Yeah, yeah. That's my point. Small.

Why are you looking at me? I'm talking to you. No, no, no. Did you see me now? No, no, no. I'm give me an eye? No, no, no. I'm pulling out right now. Do it, Uncle Terry. Would I know you're Jewish?

Certainly would. We keep it clean over here, Bubby. Small, medium, large. So I'm sitting in there and I'm like you gotta be kidding I thought I was gonna be I didn't have a problem being naked

been in the locker room my whole life walking around naked no biggie none you know I'm like golly

I gotta make a choice here well it's obvious I gotta go small but I know I know that all the wardrobe people are outside the door waiting on me to put on my penis sock you should have traded you sure well let me finish now so I went if I take the small which by the

way I'm being honest with myself, is too big. It's too big. And the medium is really too big. And the large, like you said, I could put my leg in that. It's how big this thing was. And I'm like, well, that'll be funny if I do that one. But I'm going to go with the medium and just double it a couple of times. Because I knew those gals were going to come in and go,

which one did he get? Which one did he get? 100%. Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah. I grabbed that medium and I went, you've got to be kidding me. I got to put this thing on and gather everything and tie a little bow. Oh, humiliating.

Humiliating. But I did it. Yeah. I did it. And when I went back and shot the scene, the scene was Matthew coming up looking at me, the one you see. I did the scene in three takes. I got it in three takes.

And then they said, Matthew's got to shoot his master. And I went, yeah. And they said, you go back and change. master and oh yeah they said you go back and change i said okay so i'll go back and put on my boxers so i'll go back put a robe on put my boxer shorts on i go back and we shoot the scene i'm standing there with my boxer shorts this is great for me because i'm through filming i'm going home yeah and i'm the last scene so my view kind of boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom matthew comes up good it's not the same i can't quite get the feel for this the day comes over to me says you need to go put your penis sock back on i ain't putting no penis sock back on i said you just tell mcconaughey walk up those steps i'll give him something walked up, I just dropped my drawers.

And if you watch the movie, you'll see him go, he's doing all he can not to laugh, but I wasn't putting that sock back on. Now, I thought when they told me it's just going to be the director and the camera guy, the sound guy, Matthew, and me, there's a huge wall up, Julian, huge wall. And I'm like, oh, okay, it's not very many people. There's 100 people on the other side of that wall, all part of production. I didn't think about that.

I've been duped like that, too, man. I went and did that espn body naked shoot where you really you go naked no i no you did that shoot i did that that upset me i wasn't i didn't get asked but that was my number one like how many people are gonna be there you know what i mean you want to be comfortable and they go it's gonna be a small set you know there'll be three five people yeah i roll up there i'm bare knuckle barry i got my robe on i go bare knuckle there's like 15 20 people sitting here like it's cold in this goddamn room yeah it's cold i you know what just like it's not fair you know just what's not. What's not fair is all these people beaming, you know,

check you out and go, Hey, he ain't so, he ain't so much. Can't have it all. Okay. Folks. It was funny though, to know that even today, 16 years later at that movie's been shot that people still come up, love the naked room, love the naked. I'm kind of like, yeah, that's good. I like that. Man. Let's jump into the sports world of 1972.

Super Bowl champions of 72. Dolphins undefeated. Do you? Beat us at home on a fake punt. On a fake punt. Fake punt. We pounded them that day. Everybody that played Miami thought they could beat Miami.

You ever, you know what I mean? Yeah. And then everybody lost to Miami. And Larry Seiple on a fourth down ran 40-something yards on a fake punt. Yeah. You get sick of seeing them drinking champagne every year? No. God bless those guys, man.

Everybody in life, I would hope, has one great moment. Yeah. If we can all have one great moment, that's pretty good, isn't it? Now, I've got three kids, and so obviously that's great. I got a great wife, finally got a great wife. So that's all good stuff. But is there one defining moment in your life? And you could say, well, I got Super Bowls, I got a daughter, I've got whatever. So can we have one defining moment? Miami, that undefeated team, that is a masterful, defining moment.

And I just think it's cool for all those players. Probably never be done. And the crazy thing is. And you had a chance. I wasn't on that team. Oh, you weren't? That's why they didn't do it. No.

The crazy thing is what people don't realize, they had to go on the road. It doesn't make sense. Back in that day, right? Yeah, exactly. If they used to flip for it or what did they do? Well, if you played down there the last time, they have to come to you the next time. That's crazy.

Yeah. So that's more impressive. They had to do it on the road. They didn't road dogs. And get this, and Brian Greasy, I mean, Bob Greasy, had broken an ankle and he had missed most of the year. And the backup quarterback, God, I can't think of his name now. Earl Morrill, who played for the Baltimore Colts, was the backup,

and he had a phenomenal year, and he was pulled in our game. And Bob Greasy came in and led him to victory. But it was the 43-yard fake punt because it wasn't called a fake punt, but he saw the lineup and took a chance in 43 yards later or something like that. Wow. It's pretty cool. That's insane.

And I got knocked out on the opening drive. I drove the team down on the opening drive, scrambled in for a touchdown, got knocked out, left the game, and then it wouldn't happen today, but in the fourth quarter, I came back in, drove us on another touchdown. Didn't even know about it because I was... Yeah. Back then, you remember. Oh, yeah.

Two-bar Terry. Yeah. He had two bars. I was looking at some of those pictures, Uncle Terry. Oh, brutal. Yeah. Terrible. The helmet brutal. Yeah, terrible. The helmet technology probably wasn't there.

We had the suspension helmets early in my career. Then we got the whatever those things are called. It's so awesome. We didn't have speakers in our helmet. No. It's weird stuff. We didn't have things floating down with a parrot. No.

It was just a whole different game. What's life like for Terry Bradshaw in 1972? Second year in the league, third year in the league, going to the playoffs, getting some success. Huge. I already told you they had the one camera in there or the lights in there. What was life like for you?

Not just football. It was a good year in the sense that I'm sure it was. and there are the lights in there. What was life like for you? Not just football. It was a good year in the sense that I'm sure it was. I just can't remember, although I lost my job a year or so later. You came back? Yeah, I came back, but it was a good year. It was a good feeling. I wish I could capture a few of those emotionally but it's too too many years you

know what and that's probably be when people ask me too to like certain years when you didn't win it all and yeah it was a great year but you've had so many we just talked about moments in your life your kids four super bowls it's hard to pinpoint them all because you've done so many great things. Well, you don't want to. Nothing can ever surpass the feeling of watching your child being born. Yeah. Forget it. The rest is everything that I have in life is all because of football.

I am not one that thinks, oh, football. No, I'm like, football, yes, because I am proud to have been a football player. Had I not been a football player, what would I have been? I would have probably been a welder, because that was something I loved, or I would have worked for someone, and I would have worked for someone,

and I would have been working on a farm or a farmer working for somebody. Those were my major interests. And so football has given me all these opportunities, and I'm so proud of it. I'm not like one of these guys that says, well, don't associate me. I'm more than a football player. Well, I'm only more than a football player because football gave me all this to be more of.

Opportunities that normally in our life. Look, you came out of Kent State. I mean, really. And I'm out of Louisiana Tech. You and I. You were number one pick. I was a seventh rounder. Doesn't matter.

But we'll take it. No, no. But you were extremely pick. I was the seventh rounder. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. But we'll take it. No, no. But you were extremely successful, as I was. And we got to play on these amazing teams with these amazing players, man. And we've got stories. I wish I could remember more. I got so many stories because of all those years that I played.

I played 14. How many did you play? 12. 12. Man, that's played. I played 14. How many did you play? 12. 12. Man, that's a good life. Yeah. You know what? And I'm in that boat, too, where I appreciate the game of football.

Absolutely. I'm one of those guys where I was given everything, just like you said, because of football. I'm a football player. I put on this earth to play football. Yes. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with it.

Yeah. I have other interests and stuff, I'm getting because of football to see those avenues. I'm getting to go through those doors because of football. And I'm, I'm in that same boat, uncle Terry. I love football and,

and I understand. And we got, I'm sitting here talking to Terry Bradshaw on my goddamn couch because of football. Right. And you should be thankful for that. Very thankful. Very thankful. But it, it, it is, um, I, couch because of football right and you should be thankful for that very thankful very thankful

but it it is um i i get a little upset when i hear certain superstars that are upset hey i'm more come on football was this no no no football was everything you wouldn't have any of this if it wasn't for this you know coming out of Shreveport Louisiana you coming out of Redwood City okay there it's and then we go where we go you were a quarterback then they saw on you a wide receiver you know and I was a quarterback I ended up calling all my plays in college I call all my plays in pros and not realize that people don't call their plays. And so that is one of the things about my life. I get the biggest kick out of saying, I call my own plays. Well, Brady didn't call his own plays.

He flipped a card, number six. I never saw a card. What does it say on the card? Say a play? Oh, yeah, there's like three plays. It has all the plays. If it's a wordyy if it's a high word play where you have two plays in one yeah that's just sometimes when they would have it so they

would see the back end play yeah see i just sat there and looked at the marker and the placard would move down i go like over what do y'all think that's five yards four looks like five to me that'd be long yardage, won't it? What do y'all think we ought to run here? I mean, that was the way to play, man. Get in the huddle with your guys and scratch your head and go, shit, I've already called this play twice. And Stallworth said, let me run a post option on the offside.

I think this guy's set up for the post. I said, all right, let's run the same play. You do the post option. And, Lynn, if I can squeeze that into you, if he stays back, I'll go to you on top of the dig. But if not, if he fouls over, I'll go to you on the cue. John's, all right, all right. And then there it is, wide open. That's fun.

That's fun. That's when you're in the huddle. And Franco says, hey, give me another trap, man. This guy's in. Okay, let's run it. Now, I'd say i call plays but we call play yeah because i involved everybody now what is the offensive coordinator doing didn't have one so the head coach had a head coach who's running the meetings when you guys are the running

back coach and the uh receiver coach i think dick Dick Hoke, Tom Moore and Chuck Knoll would sit down and put the offense together. And then it would be presented to us by Chuck a great deal with Moore and Hoke adding something. But when you run a play viewers ought to know

when you run a play in football and it's not successful but in practice it's set up to be successful. So if it's not successful, it's not successful but in practice it's set up to be right successful so if it's not successful it's not my fault it's their fault you know but i'm calling the plays and so it's my fault for calling the play so so it was whenever things weren't going right i'd say the running game's not working the way i wanted that. I tell you, Dick, we're doing this. I can see this and that. And then he says, well, let's try this. Let's try that.

I'll tell you, okay. Now it's passing game. I say, Tom, we've run that on third and short. They're shutting that down. They tried this and they tried that. I'm thinking maybe go out this. He says, okay, go that route. See what happens.

And if that doesn't work, then we'll come back with that. I say, okay, that sounds good. And it would work or it wouldn't work and then i'd say okay then the guys would say i can't do this i can't do that one time i get in the huddle franco says give me the ball on 92 tackle trap and i said okay 92 tackle trap touchdown yeah you know that's just how we i i say i call the place but i had a whole lot of help in the huddle calling plays now did you see as you were in the league longer your your ability to call plays and see things what did it get better and better i mean that's crazy because there's an art what people don't realize there's's an art to call them plays. You call plays, plays are like a beautiful movie. There's a beginning and there's an end and there's a storyline

and there's stars in the storyline and maybe it's a romance or maybe it's a drama, melodrama. So a movie is kind of like that or going to a four-part play, maybe an opera. I mean, it's all set up beautifully and everything is tied in. And it's like you learn if the dancers, which are the safeties, if they dance this way, then the linebackers have to dance that way. And if the corners are in this and are the inside technique, outside technique, are they squaring up, looking at them? There's little things you learn in the and are the inside technique outside technique are they squaring up looking at them there's little things you learn in the middle of the play you go ha ha ha you know so you learn

to pick up on all of this and then when when it's all said and done you know it really got kind of easy and there was sometimes when they would fool me with uh they would give me a look, and then the first time I ever saw two men, zone two men. They set up, all right, and zone. They jammed, and they rode and ran, all right? Well, I had the tight end on a bow out. Trap corner. And then the corner pulls off. And he's, I'm the tight end on a bow out. Trap corner.

And then the corner pulls off. And he's, I'm like, whoa. Now, where did this come from? Now, how did that happen? He's running. And then you go, oh, you dog. You got me. Got me. Corners can lie, but them safeties can.

Yes, exactly. And so it was, you just pick up. It's basically that simple. Now, they make it really, I think today with all the formations that are set up, I think it's pretty much set one, two, three. One, two, three, because there's so much shit to read. And when you had two tight ends and you were doing all of this, I loved it because I say a thousand times during the year,

doing highlights, best route in football is a crossing route. It is my opinion. It's the one route that is fabulous. Clear them out, cross them, cross them. See who drops and bites. He's there, swing hook. What a tight end zone sit down. Man run away.

Then a zone, then a seam. Then outside, you got this. Now you got a seam and a take down, man, run away. Then the zone, then the seam, then the outside. You got this. Now you got a seam and a takeoff. Oh, baby. I love it. It's so cool to hear you talk about call and plays, and people don't understand that that's fun.

It's fun, but that is extremely hard to be able to manage. We talk about this whole quarterback you know, quarterback operation, quarterback manager now with, like, the Brock Purdy's and all these guys that are just in there, and they're operating at a high level. Right. They got some of the best minds in their head telling them to play. Like, Terry doing that all himself.

They have 15 seconds to shut the mic off, going to the line of scrimmage, and to go, Lord, don't forget to look at this. Don't forget to look at that. There are a lot of reminders. And I don't know how that offense is a run. I do know that when they ran what's called the West Coast, it was all, I call it the tree, the triangle, because it was flanker, tied in, fullback or halfback or whatever.

And it was always one, two, three, one, two, three. And then over here you had a combination backside. And last week I actually talked football. The backside had to be five yards deeper so that if this was covered, by the time I turned to go here, it times up. And it's just fun to watch that offense run, man. How in the world do they do that? It's pretty cool.

I think with these young kids, they're coached so well, Julian, that they're taught if this happens, here's where you taught, if this happens, here's where you go. If this happens, here's where you go. There's an answer for everything. Yeah, there has to be. I just heard Tony Dungy talk about Belichick. It just hit me right now. He said he taught me one thing when I got into coaching.

He said, you always have to have an answer for everything. And we literally, and it brought it to me right here, because even if we had a play designed for a coverage and we didn't get that coverage, we always had a counter and we had an adjustment that happened because you had a different. There's a rhyme and reason for everything you do, you know, in these offenses now. I agree.

And I think what happens today is that for every play, which is designed for zone or type of zone or a man or a type of man and all the printouts from the – it says, here's what you're going to get. Yeah. I mean, here's what you're going to get. Yeah. I mean, here's what you're going to get. But when you run that play, which is a zone play, and man shows up, everybody running that zone route runs a man route. They make their adjustments to man.

And the quarterback has to see that too. And that, to me, would be the hardest thing for young quarterbacks to pick up on, even as a veteran quarterback. The great offense. See, we'd have plays where you'd have a zone concept on the front side and a man concept on the back side. So if you got both, and it was one of those tricky situations

where 60% of the time in this situation you're getting zoned, but there was 30% of the time in this situation, you're getting zoned. But there was 30% of the time they got this, and then they also have a 6% mixer, like coverage that they would do. So you'd have, like, you get too wordy, and that's when you rely on being on the same page with guys if you're going to transfer in the middle of a play zone to man. So a lot of the times what they do for these quarterbacks is they put a zone concept on one area, and they put the man you see it's man go back to your man concept right so those guys are

running man no matter what if it's zone you go to the zone you know what i mean oh that's i can see that yeah and the strength of the formation always dictates more more people covering it yeah so the man concept is really smart i've never done that yeah but that's first time i've heard that but i'm thinking hey that's that's pretty yeah that's pretty good you got your man beaters and your zone beaters but there's some these these fucking defensive coaches are smart man they they disguise and you know everyone sees all these motions and these formation indicators pre-snap now like now the defenses know what you're doing and they're're dicking you. They'll put a linebacker out there and play Tampa 2

with the linebacker doing a flat zone defense. It's a creep. It's like I always say, I don't know, but if he's open, I'm chunking it. I don't know why he's open and really don't care. I always tell people all the time, well, if he's open, just throw it to him. Yeah. You know, because in reading formations, number one could actually be,

number two could be one, or three could be one, and two is two, and one is three, just by reading. That in itself, I mean, that's why I threw 210 interceptions. I'd be like,

what the shit is all that? Chuck and pray, baby. In itself, I mean, that's why I threw 210 interceptions. I'd be like, what? What the shit is all that? Chuck and pray, baby. You're going to get hit. Get rid of it. Apologize. Never apologize. I know, man.

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stage for the Oakland Raiders. Let's get into the game. We're getting more memes. No more memes this episode. No more memes. I like memes. Nah. You got to use one in your text tonight.

Got it. Let's run through these Raiders offense team real quick. This was the fourth year under John Madden. The first year, Al Davis was the sole owner. 10-3, won the AFC West. High-flying offense. Top 10 defense. 11 Hall of Famers on this team.

Wow. Fred Belitnikoff, George Blanda, Bob Brown, Willie Brown, Al Davis, John Madden, Jim Otto, Gene Upshaw. Yeah. Ken Stabler backing up Darrell LaMonica. I mean, this was a chalked full of Hall of Famer Raider teams. Yeah, both sides, 11 total? No, no, no, total.

Sorry. Counting owners, coaches, and players. Both sides or just the Raiders? Just the Raiders. Just the Raiders. Just the Raiders. We'll get into there. Okay.

We'll get into there. I'm looking at Kenny because Kenny Stabler's the backup, and Kenny actually in the game of Mackley reception, Kenny came in and ran for a touchdown. Yeah. Like 30, 40 yard touchdown. Oh man, coverage. We watched it.

Yeah. Did you? Went to the left and ran it in. We were watching, doing the research for this. It's so crazy that that's how people were delivered football back then a week later.

So we were talking about that where you guys would play this game and they would cut it up and then they would present it to people on TV like four or five days later. That's nuts, huh? Well, we only had one. What did you have back then in the 70s? How many tape machines?

Four? Four? I mean, think about it. Now you've got 20-something? Now we're high-def. God forbid we 20-something. Now we're high-def. God forbid we miss a play today because it's high-def. Slow it down. Give me a microscope, Fred.

Yep. Touch the ground. Incomplete. Holy God. I mean, it is. I think about that all the time, too. Wow. When you watch football now, the amount of plays that would have

been probably taken away back in the past oh for sure because there's so many times where the foot's on the line and it's some fucking old guy that's the referee it's in it's in how about the immaculate reception who touched it last i how about that rule how stupid is that we'll get into that but yeah but i mean you see rules today and and I wouldn't want to be a ref. I wouldn't want to be someone making these calls. And I'm telling you, I ran into a ref the other day flying from L.A. to Dallas Sunday night, Monday morning, Monday morning. And I'm riding with this ref, and we're talking.

I said, I'm going to tell you you right now i know you guys get some grief boy your job is hard very you make these calls you have to make them immediately you can't go the clouds going crazy hey chunk that flag out there you got to do it so i have a great deal of respect for those referees. And when they go back, they've got most of the time, Julian, they're right. I'm so amazed. So quick. Like, I bitch at the refs, and we all bitch about the refs,

because it's the refs. But if you see the way they spot these balls, they get a lot of these goddamn calls. And it's got to be hard to be them, because we're all looking for that one. They don't make, and you slow everything down. There's a hold on everything.

Well, let's go to this angle and there's a football and a hand sticking it. Well, go to the other angle. That's the high over angle. No, that's not, let's go to the other side.

It's, it's, we, I, and you know what? I don't, I guess it's because of gambling that we have to have all the answers because people are giving up three points,

and they're favored by five, and so on and so forth. So I guess that's a lot of it. I get the biggest kick because I think because of the Colts and the Patriots and two great quarterbacks, those are the two teams that are always in the AFC championship game and that's must-see football. And you don't want to see a team win on a fluke, I guess. And so that's where these games are highly scrutinized, man,

when you – Steelers, Raiders, highly scrutinized. So I get it. I happen to be one that loves controversy. Yeah. And I think any game between two teams that are good and there's screaming controversy, the Swearinger call against Lynn Swan in Super Bowl X, all he did was Lynn cut inside and tripped over his feet.

Back then, flag. First down for us went on the score. Should have been punting. Rules change. All the jamming and them running and beating up on receivers done by Mel Blunt, Tex Ram with the Cowboys fouled. It went crazy. And they got the rule in that after five yards, hands off.

Yeah. But that's good. Back then, that was so good for football because the Cowboys hated the Steelers. The Raiders hated us because of obvious reasons. And it just made for must-watch television. Speaking of a guy that probably hates the refs, you have any stories about John Madden, RIP? Yeah. Especially with this game. He hated the refs. You got any stories about John Madden, RIP?

Especially with this game. He hated the refs after this game. What about Coach Madden? You got anything about Coach Madden? When he was at CBS and Fox, and I was with both networks with him, we had no communication. It was best that I stay away. He was really mad still to that day. I don't think he ever...

Yeah, I think so. I think that was his biggest... mad still to that day. I don't think he ever, yeah, I think so. I think that was his biggest. John went to his grave thinking that he got hosed by Pittsburgh and the refs, and who's to say he didn't? But like I said, that's what made the next match against him good. Man. Who knows? He denied when they did the Immaculate Reception documentary.

He wouldn't talk about it. He said no. NFL film just contacted him. He's like, I don't want to talk about it. He was really mad about that. Well, he wouldn't have won anyway. It's like when I tell the Cowboys, well, that's right or wrong. You get tired as a player.

You get tired of hearing it. Okay, so you got screwed. Listen, you go through a football season. You can't tell me when you were 19-0 or whatever it was, and you didn't get some good breaks along the way. You didn't get a call your way. Your players didn't get hurt. Or if they did, they weren't main players.

And so that's how a season goes. That's a season. That's how a season goes. And you just get the right end. You get the right, you know, you get the long straw every time, never the short straw. And that's kind of the way that game was and the Swearinger call. You get calls, maybe you didn't deserve them, but you're going to win.

I threw three interceptions in Super Bowl XIV. I couldn't come up with anything. And, you know, just lost. And they just knew everything I was doing. I'm just like, what are they, in the huddle, you know? And then finally we pull out a play that they'd never seen. Boom, boom, two touchdowns. We win the game.

So you never know, but that's how a season is, man. You get those breaks that maybe you just don't deserve them but you get them that's why we always say the ball has to bounce your way to win that damn super bowl and and there's times where the best team doesn't always win but the ball was bouncing out the other team's way hey you are so right and i sat right there on the sideline when you made that catch and you talk about bouncing. And I'm saying that because you're here because I've said this to you too many times. But your wherewithal being hit like that and upside down and grabbing

and putting that hand under the – one of the greatest moments I've ever seen in football, especially in a game like that, the softball. Amazing. But you had no reason making that catch. You were banged up, man. I mean, but you did, and there you have it. That's another one. Two-man.

We talked about it earlier. That's the coverage. Two-man. Jackie, why don't you set the stage for these Pittsburgh Steelers? Steelers. Let's run through this one real quick. Another team jam-packed with guys that got busts in Canton. Mel Blunt, Terry Bradshaw, Jack Hamm, Franco Harris, Art Rooney, Dan Rooney, team jam-packed with guys that got busts in canton mel blunt terry bradshaw jack ham

franco harris art rooney dan rooney chuck noel mean joe green when that mean was he really mean yeah he's mean oh yeah okay he against cleveland one year took the helmet off i believe it was bab the center and like samson with the jawbone of an ass wiped him out yeah oh yeah they couldn't control him and they had that browns fun we were in cleveland and they're scattering he took that helmet threw it in the stand ran back grabbed the football went to the end threw it in the stands and i'm sitting on the sideline like and chuck didn't know chuck done to it everybody's just like this guy's he's man he's on his rampage right now. Let him finish wiping them out.

It was, to this day, I don't think anybody calls him Mean Joe Green but me, and he hates it when I do it. But I do it just to piss him off. Now, he did that in Cleveland? Yes. Do you think Miles Garrett got inspired to take off someone? I don't know. I know one thing.

Hit Ray St. Rudolph. One thing about, and I'll tell you the thing about Joe. Joe's a gentleman now. Yeah. He wasn't then. And we're playing Denver, and the center kept holding Joe. And Joe said, look, man, you do this again. And he said, I'm going to settle this.

Well, he did. He held him again right in the nuts. Security. Yeah. That's football. and he said, I'm going to settle this. Well, he did. He held him again right in the nuts. Security, my... Yeah. Of course, he got kicked out again, but he made his point, right? He made his point. God, can you imagine?

Were people giving him shit for that commercial that he did for Coke? Well, that Coca-Cola commercial changed his image because you saw a side of him he's a good looking man yeah and a giant of a man and through that kid that and the women are out there and the mothers are going oh my god and he's like that right now he's the sweetest guy in the world yeah but back when he had back when he was possessed he he was a different guy. Geez.

Now, we just listed the countless Hall of Famers on this team. There's a bunch of them. Who's the unsung hero of the team? We always had some kind of guy, like the James Whites, the Rob Ninkoviches. Who's that unsung hero for these teams that didn't get the the play probably ernie holmes at tackle ernie holmes uh amazing ernie holmes dwight mad dog white right in um mike wagner let's say oh man smart i mean we got Rocky Blyer. There's a bunch of Hall of Fame twos that are in there.

Elsie Greenwood at left end. Hollywood Bags was his nickname. Why did they call him Hollywood Bags? Oh, you. Why did they call him? Hollywood. He always had yellow shoes on, and he was this cool dude, man, with his deep voice. There's always that one.

That's our Brandon Spikes. Remember Brandon Spikes? Oh, yeah, I do. Brandon Spikes was like that. Yeah. Big-ass dude that just wore cool things. That was a murder on the field. That scene was...

Blonde Baba. Big-ass dude that just wore cool things. That was a murder on the field. The L-team was, yeah, yeah, yeah. Blonde bomber, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that your nickname, the blonde bomber? Dwight White, yeah. Dwight White, Mad Dog. You know, back in the 70s, defensive ends were 260. Yeah. You know, 270.

Linebackers, 225, 230. Sounds like now. Yeah, they're big. And Dwight White, in practice one day, I threw a pass, and for some reason he mad at John Cobra or something. He came through, and he decked me. Knocked me back over, ass kettle, helmet flew off. Practice.

Practice. We practiced in full pass. Yeah. I found the football, and I got up. I threw it. I tried to kill him. Nobody, Chuck Knowles, he didn't mind it, but I have the shit knocked out of me.

Boy, I was pissed. He came over, and I said, let me tell you something, mad dog. You may lose with me, but you'll never win without me. You got that? And I walked i walked over a steaming i took my helmet off y'all sit on your helmets in practice yeah we did yeah i sat on my helmet and i'm over there and i'm i'm mad because nobody got in a fight nobody fought for me maybe that's it maybe they gave me shit i don't't know. I'm over by myself and here comes Mad Dog. He comes over

and he kind of had that high pitch. Blind Bob, what was that? Give me that saying. What was that saying? What are you talking about? You know that saying, you threw the ball and you said what? What was that you said? And he had his tooth missing. I said, I don't know what you're talking about.

You said something about we're going to win, maybe missing. I said, I don't know what you're talking about. You said something about we're going to win, maybe lose. I said, and I got to thinking, what did I say? So he sat down. Next thing I know, it's like, hey, pull up a chair. Pull up a helmet. So we started going, okay, you knocked me down. I got pissed. I hit you with the football.

You came at me. I pointed at you. And what did I say? He said something about, you're going to win with me. I said, oh, no, no, no. You may lose with me. Yeah, that's it. That's it.

That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to lose with me. No, I'm not going to lose with you. You may lose with me. Then what? And it took us 30 minutes and we go but you'll never win without me that's it yeah yeah oh i like that i like that well i like it too that's an original

yeah and to this day that was always now of course he passed away god bless him joe green will say bomb bomber said you may lose with me but you'll never win without me. That kind of became the theme of their defense. They used to use it all the time. You know what? Is that not football right there? Oh, so good. You guys get in a fight.

Yeah. And then you guys sit there. Hold it on that. Or no fight. Or you guys, there's something that happens. There's a disagreement. That same thing happened to me and Gilmore. Remember Stephon Gilmore?

We just signed him. We just signed him, and I was pissed. They gave him $14 million. I'm over here. We just won a Super Bowl. We're on our second. We got Super Bowls. They paid this guy $14 million.

Been routing him over. For how many years? It was 14 a year. What? Yeah. When Stephonilmore came to the pats he was the highest paid corner which he's a he was a fucking stud and made me a lot better but i was pissed the first day he came in he was a buffalo bill you know i wanted to show

him first day of pads this is how we fucking practice here he kind of hems me up on a flag route we get into it i take his helmet off i start punching him belichick goes you two get the fuck off the field hit the showers really so we have to it's first day of pads you gotta go shower with the guy so it was the first fucking period uncle terry it was the first period i don't got a water hose outside but just like you and your teammate you guys were yeah we start walking back and we're pissed off at each other and all of a sudden you know we get in the locker room and yeah i'm sorry oh i'm sorry yeah yeah it's one of those things where why don't you go back out to practice? Because they told us to get out, which it was the best. If I would have known that, I would have done that so many more times.

Get out of practice, training camp, practice, first day of pads, get the fucking... I started doing that. I got smartened up. But that is, yeah, that's... I've got so many stories about stuff like... Most of them you can't tell. You can't. Can't tell them.

Can't tell them. God. And I never... stories about stuff like most of them you can't tell you can't can't tell them can't tell this god and i never you know i had a chance to do a book here about a year ago year and a half and i thought oh boy i started thinking about all the chapters and how this is going to be a really fun exciting eye-opening book and i got the thought thinking no it isn't it's not gonna be good at all because i'm not gonna say this stuff yeah and so i said that's it cancel the some some things left in between the lines it's you know some things left in between the lines just leave it there so let's go to the next segment it's's time for the Bounty Wingman question. Bring out the wings. Joe Green.

Mean Joe Green. He was my wing guy. He's your wingman? Yeah. You don't have to have one, but if you want a wing, you're more than welcome to have a wing. Are they dry or are they wet? Just in case if you would like one, Uncle Terry.

Those bad boys right there. Are they hot? They're mild-ish. Are these just Popeye wings? These are buffalo Buffalo wings But you know for a fact Everyone's favorite wingman

Is the bounty paper towel Because you can't have football without wings And you can't have wings without football Bounty, this is amazing Let me guess sponsor what are you talking about what are you talking about don't you lie to me of course it's a sponsor i mean there's there's paper towels everywhere here you need me one second i love bounty week hello america look if you're at home and your kid spills some stuff you get those

table tops in your kitchen you probably got got to hear the very marble top. Marble tops don't wipe up good. But with Bounty, the marble top, one wipe over there and you got it all up. I'm telling you, I love Bounty. For people in the 1970s that had marble tops, you can use that. Or nowadays, with granite tops, you can use Bounty as well. Hold it. Granite or marble, which is best?

The wingman question, though, Uncle Terry. Yes, what? Who's your best wingman? I told you. Mean Joe Green? Yeah, for sure. These are good. Mean Joe Green, for sure.

I didn't know I had a wingman, but when the press was all over me, Joe Green would put them in their place. He did? Mm-hmm. I need Joe Green. It's good. You like a little heat? Yeah.

Who are these by? Are they a sponsor? No. Well, who are they? Who made them? We can't say. Why not? Because it conflicts with bounty.

This is bounty segment, baby. Bounty doesn't make chicken. But we want everything to be about bounty. Where are the chicken wings from? It's all about bounty. I got to wipe this off my face with some of the finest paper towels. Very reusable, guys. Oh, yeah. Very reusable.

That's good shit right there. Bounty and wings. That's our favorite. Is it a good wing? Yeah. Who makes these? Who made them? Hurricane wings. Hurricane wings. Hello, America TV here. That's our favorite. Is it a good wing? Yeah. Who makes these? Who made them? Hurricane Wings.

Hurricane Wings. Hello, America TV here. I'm here with my man, Julian Edelman. I thought it was Julian. No, I'm going to give it Julian, right? You're in the mood for some wings, hot chicken wings, dry or wet. You got to go to Hurricane Wings right out here in L.A. We don't have them back in Dallas.

They're good. Oh. That's good stuff right there. It is a good wing. Yeah, yeah. Where do you do the bones? Throw that bad boy right there. Oh, man, that's your spit cup?

Oh, God. Terry. God. You played in 1970. I'm not. Oh. Come on, Uncle Terry. I used to chew tobacco.

Did you? I made a mistake of spitting into a Coca-Cola can. Who drank it? My girls. Hey. It's just man of bounty. I only laugh because I've done that too. Oh, my God.

All right, we're done with the boundary. I never laugh so hard. Let's lead us up to this game, Jackie. All right, a little context going into this one. The Raiders closed the season on a six-game win streak. Steelers closed it out 5-1. This was the second meeting of these guys. 14 weeks earlier than week one. We beat them. We beat out 5-1. This was the second meeting of these guys. 14 weeks earlier, they made week one.

We beat them 34-28. Terry rushed for two touchdowns. Two tugs. And this was the first time making the playoffs for the Steelers since 1947. 1947. Wow. Not a math guy, but that seems like 30 years. That's a long time.

Long time. Yeah. Long time. What do you remember about going into this game? Were you nervous because of that whole stigma of we've never been to the playoffs? Or was it a thing? I think I was more excited that we had them at home. I knew how hard the game would be.

So as a player, I had to – I don't know how you are, but when the Sunday game was over, Sunday game coming up was already on my mind driving home. Yep. I never – during football season, I never could park a day off. No. I couldn't. I think that's pretty common.

But I was automatically thinking, boy, you know, I'm guessing now. I'm just thinking, knowing how it was, it's going to be a tough game there, tough defense, you know, so on and so forth. Nervous? Yeah, for sure I was nervous, you know, absolutely. Not knowing how we were going to beat these guys and knowing that we were a running football team and they were good at stopping the run.

You know, what were the surprises going to be? And the surprise was the weather, horrible weather. And then, of course, as you know, and I'll let you ask the questions as you show, but I don't think I was excited at all. I think I was nervous. Is there, there's a difference to me? Nervous is, I would rather be excited at all. I think I was nervous. There's a difference to me. Nervousness. I would rather be excited than nervous. Nervous means that I'm looking at the safety right there,

but he's really not right there. He's really over there. You have to get past that so you get that vision down to that. It's blurry, blurry blurry blurry blurry now it's one and i think nervousness messes with you more and i think one of the things i learned early in my career was how to manage that so i could settle myself down i i used to get real nervous before games and i i like to think because you cared so much. Of course you care. And also with football, you could have the best week of practice, but it's the ultimate team game. But it's set up for you.

Yeah. Practice is set up. Okay, they're going to do zone two, man, with this right there. Here's the place. Let's run them. Let's run them. Let's run them. It's all set up.

It's all set up. Exactly. So you go in prepared, and you would think that that makes your nervousness go away but you learn over time that it's such a team sport that you could go out and have a really good game but you could still lose and it wouldn't get the satisfaction if you still never go so there's always something that happens your personal your personal performance never mattered your personal performance. Never mattered. Your personal performance does give you some cushion to fall on.

Because it's just now, if I threw for 500 yards in that game right there and we lost, I would go, God, we lost the playoff game. Are you kidding me? Then I'd go, okay, I threw for 500 yards. But I'd always go, but we lost. So I'd never get past we lost. So a small buffer, but not a good one. The main thing as a quarterback, as I tell everybody,

and this game's a classic example, did we deserve to win? Were the rules correct? Did we break the – who knows? I mean, it's why it's voted the best play. But the thing is, I threw for what, 80 yards maybe in that game? You know, maybe 80 yards. Maybe we rushed for 120. I don't know what the stats were.

They couldn't have been that good. I'm looking up here. Oh, look. 175. Oh, I threw for 144 yards. Well, that'll keep you up all night. Look at those stats right there, my friend. That was the net. You threw for 175. That's I threw for 144 yards. Well, that'll keep you up all night. Look at those stats right there, my friend. That was the net.

You threw for 175. That's not the first quarter. I got here 11 for 25, 175 yards, a touchdown, and interception. Yeah, not good. Not good. But how many did we rush for? You had 108 rushing yards. Okay, see, not much.

And they rushed for 138. Yeah, not much. And the thing about that game was just back and forth. I mean, America today would turn a game off back then because it's just nothing. Because the AFL, when they merged in 69, that's where the fun was. If I were coming out, I would have wanted to go to the AFL where you throw the ball 40 times a game.

We're in the NFL. I mean, we are in the AFL now because passing the football and scoring points moves the dial as far as ratings. We want to see 50 touchdowns by a quarterback. We want to see Jordan Love playing this week and him having 32 touchdowns. And we want to see all that fun stuff, man. And we dial up to watch the Miami Dolphins play and Patrick Mahomes.

That was the 60s football in the AFL. So when we translated it into the NFL and the merger, it still took on the NFL's run, run, run, run, run, play great defense, run, run, run, run, run, play great defense. And this game was a classic case of two great teams, one OAF NFL and the other one, the great AFL Raiders in the merger. I completely disagree. Okay, good.

I disagree. I am your guest, and if I say that's the way it is, that's the way it is. No, but I disagree with why people would chain. Yeah, why I'd watch. Because back then, defense, like, a 0-0 game in the 70s meant the defense was probably knocking the shit out of people. Guys were scared.

Like, now if it's a 0-0, you can't hit nobody in the game. You can't do anything. So that just means it's terrible offense. Who won 9-0 two weeks ago? Was that at Tampa Bay? Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay. But that's because, I mean, 9-0.

Without a doubt. Really, I'm a fan. I'm a spectator. You know, I'm sitting there going 9-0. Without a doubt. Really, I'm a fan. I'm a spectator. You know, I'm sitting there going 9-0. It's like when a guy pitches a perfect game or no hitter. You want to watch a game where nobody gets a hit? I don't. Chicks dig the long ball.

Well, how would I know about the longbow? I'm just saying that back in these days, it's 0-0 at halftime. Was that the score? That's what it was at halftime. Wow. What do you guys go in at halftime when it's 0-0? Julian, how can I possibly answer that question? I was 24 years old. Yeah.

I mean, I'll give you an answer. I remember Chuck Knoll gave the best speech he ever gave in his life. Was he a speech guy? No, that's why I'm making it up. Yeah. He didn't have said a word. But I think he, He – Chuck just basically – because both teams got together, and I'd get on the blackboard with the coaches, offensive coaches,

and here's what they're doing. And so they'd have something, and we'd be there doing – and then the defense was there, and then Chuck would give us something. But he was not a rah-rah, never, ever. I can't imagine Belichick being that either. He just points. He would say, if we stop the run in the second half, if we stop the run in the second half, we win the football game.

Offense, we just need one good drive. You got it? That was it. Yeah. That was it. See, I think, and I just, that, people are going to grab, like, want to hear what it was like back in your day. Right.

Where Terry's on the whiteboard with the offense. The defense is in the other side of the locker room, meeting with the defense, which is very similar to how it's done nowadays. Right. You know, the halftime's, what, 12 minutes in a regular season, regular game, Super Bowl, it's 22 minutes. So the first three minutes when we would get in would be like,

we all just sit there. We all get our breath. The coaches go meet and discuss on what they're going to present to us. And then we would get over and we would go over what they're doing, what we're doing, what we're scrapping. And we always had information. It was never a rah-rah kind of thing in my locker room either. And then Bill at the end with the last two minutes would give his keys

on what we had to do to win. So it was very similar to that. A coach's job is not to give you rah-rah. A coach's job is to give you information. I want the info. I don't want to hear you need to do this. I want to know on this specific play is he giving me inside leverage outside leverage what why are they doing this right and that's what

we got at half time yeah i never could understand i never was a captain i never i wasn't i wasn't a captain in high school i wasn't a captain in college and i wasn't a captain in the nfl and i'm glad i don't have time to go and pick everybody up yeah you know i i see these guys i remember what was a great linebacker for the baltimore ravens ray lewis ray lewis i'm like i i don't get all that. That's wasted energy. Or as I like to call it, false chatter. I mean, after that, you got to, if I'm doing what Ray did, I'm like, I got to take a break.

Yeah. Take me out. I never got that. And all my coaches I've ever had were so fundamentally sound, principled. It was all serious. And that's the way I approach it. I don't have time to be raw, raw. I don't want to scream it. I don't want to go scream at Lin Swant because he'll turn around and scream back and say, well, you dickhead, you threw it behind me.

How the hell am I supposed to? And you know what? He's right. I used to apologize to these guys, but then I got to thinking about it. If I'd have been accurate, accurate, none of them would have made the Hall of Fame. I'm...

Am I right? I mean, you've got to let them show off what they can do. And I did that intentionally. I just want America to know that. You know what? I'm a giver. I'm a giver, bub. He's a giver.

He's a giver. Hey, Jack, why don't you break us down to when we get to the immaculate reception. We touched on this a little bit earlier. Daryl LaMonica gets pulled in the fourth. Right. Stabler comes in, breaks off a 30-yard touchdown run. Put the Raiders up. Man coverage, 7-6 with a minute 17 left.

Unbelievable. Terry and the boys come back out on the field, and then we're faced with fourth down. 10 yards to go from their own 40. 66 circle post. There it 40. 66 circle post. There it is. 66 circle post. Right.

In the huddle. What do you think? Do you remember this? I'm just reaching. I'm reaching. Reaching? I'm just reaching. There's no like before that play or that drive, like the Joe Montana,

you look at John Candy. Hey, there's John Candy, guys. None of that for Uncle Terry. I'm not near as cool as Joe. Joe is supremely confident. I wasn't. I was like I told you. I played scared.

Man, I played scared because I knew I could lose my job on either side. So I always had an edge about me when I played. But I remember running out on the field, called a pass to the tight end. I'm just trying to get a first down. No good. Called another pass. No good. Called another pass.

None of them are even close to being completed. And I'm just head scratcher. You know, and there it is, circle option. Option being to the split end. Safety comes up, go post, he stays back, go corner. So option right there, and I got to see that. But I got flushed out of the pocket. The reason I got flushed out, God rest his soul, I did an interview with Franco Harris two weeks prior to,

we did a deal together on this play, and we had so much fun talking about the this play and i never thought he caught the ball but he did i actually ended up seeing the picture and he caught the ball it's about 10 inches off the ground yeah now who hit the ball last the the rule back then was if frenchy touched it last, we can't receive it. It's incomplete. Someone from the Raiders has to touch it after Frenchy, and then we can receive it, and it's our ball. But no, two Steelers cannot in a row catch the ball.

So did Tatum hit it last, or did Frenchy hit it last? That was the argument. The way the ball came flying back, you know that there was a collision and that the ball could have very easily come off of Frenchy through the contact from Tatum. That easily could have happened, all right, because Tatum was a ferocious hitter. Oh, yeah.

So the impetus could have come from the collision that Tatum caused, but did it hit Tatum? I know it hit in there. And if you watch the tape, Frenchie's got his hands like this. So there's no way you're going to – and the ball was going to be right there. So there's no way that the ball could have hit his hands and bounced so many yards backwards. So the impetus had to come through Tatum.

But did Tatum hit this hand and that ball hit this hand and then go that's what we won't know because we don't have the tape to follow it up and there was the argument right there was that's an incomplete pass and so the referees were confused and they here it is right here i guess you got it in slow motion. I'm going outside. I avoid the sack. I fired the ball. I hit the ground. I hear the roar of the crowd. I got a couple of Raiders on top of me. I hear the roar of the crowd, and while I'm on the ground, I go,

well, excuse me for throwing a perfect pass. Let me see. How many commercials am I going gonna get out of this i am a hero to millions because you knew you knew the the roar i told you all you hey you you play long enough you know a roar is a touchdown roar oh yeah you know it's at your stadium oh that's a touchdown roar i'm on the ground shit man excuse me for being so good and i stand up and and i start jogging and yeah all of a sudden i'm realizing that it wasn't quite as perfect as i thought it was they're going what did you see did the hit let me hit what hit wait oh yeah and the ball went flying what about the law went flying. What about the ball went flying? What do you mean ball went flying? You mean, yeah, it would bounce back that way.

That way? Yeah. Well, how did Franco get it? Nobody knows. He caught it out of the air and ran for it. He caught it out of the air and ran for it. He shit me. It wasn't a perfect thing.

Now I'm like, piss. There goes all my, there goes Johnny Carson. There goes Johnny Carson. There goes my movies. There goes everything I'd hoped for right down the drain. Then I saw the picture, and I saw Franco later. And we started talking and laughing. I said, you know, 66 says what? You have to block.

You stay in and block. You didn't block anybody. He said, yeah. You have to block. You stay in and block. You didn't block anybody. He said, yeah. Say, I'm having to run because he missed his block. And he's standing there, and he said he learned from Joe at Penn State. Joe Pa? Pa, yeah, Joe Pa.

Last name. Paterno. Paterno, yeah, I couldn't think of it. At 75, you get part of a name right, that's pretty good. You got it to me, Coach. So Joe Paterno said when the ball leaves the quarterback's hand, you run to the ball. Kind of like Custer.

Custer's whole thing was go to the sound of the guns. Yeah. That was his thing. That was his philosophy. That made him so daring. And so Franco was taught to go to the pass. Yeah. So he took off to the pass, and the ball came back. And that's how he ended up catching the pass.

Had he blocked, I would have had time to stand up there and, you know, make the throw. Doesn't mean it had been complete. But Franco's not here anymore, so I can say what I want to say. He can't dispute it. God rest his soul. Yeah. What a play.

Yeah. Then the speed. Catch the ball and outrun everybody. Now, the touchdown wasn't called right after. No. Well, was it? I don't think they knew what to do. The refs were confused.

No, there was a 15-minute break. I know. It was ugly. They go to the phone that's at the wall. I mean, there's footage of you. There's people, like, talking to you, grabbing you. The game's not over. I know.

You guys done. I know. I mean, they rushed the field. Hey, my girl, was I married then? I can't remember. Either my brother-in-law, somebody was on the field hugging me, and he was telling me what happened. It may have been the girl I was dating's brother. don't know but anyway how'd he get down there you know

it was total chaos and we waited and waited and there's so many things that have been said the ref goes or the guy up in the booth goes hey man you this ain't a touchdown. We've got problems. Well, Willie Brown. That's what made John so mad. Willie Brown said he heard the ref say, how much security we got? And then two minutes later, touchdown. One of their tight ends, their backup tight ends, one of our fans hit him over the head with a Coke bottle the night before the game.

He had to have stitches. Old Pittsburgh fans. Then when we played them out there in the playoff game, they had watered the field down, and the grass was about this long. It was typical Pittsburgh Raiders, man. It was what's so great about it. Yeah. You know?

Now, what was the celebration like in the locker room after? Were you guys ecstatic? I'm sure. I'm sure we were just bonkers. Yeah. Just shocking. And like I said earlier, our owner, Art Rooney, didn't even see it. Well, the minute something left, he went down, he left his box and went down to greet us

as we went in the door telling us great season and then they were down there and the roar and everything and they were asking what happened he was told he just scored and he missed he missed the greatest play in history right there at home was the immaculate reception the kickstarter to the dynasty, you think? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, what happens, Julian, I remember telling my dad before that season started, if we could, we're going to play four teams that were in the playoffs, and if we could beat two of them,

then that would convince us that we're on the right path because you build a football team. And our team was unlike what they have today. It was built through the draft. Back in the 70s, you built through the draft because there was a football team. And our team was unlike what they have today. It was built through the draft. Back in the 70s, you built through the draft because there was no player movement. You had to be cut or traded. You had no control.

You were playing against Gene Upshaw, who actually made that a rule. There you go. Free agency. So we're built through the draft. So you have all these young players. And then we ended up beating all four of those teams during the season. So I knew we were a good football team. Then we beat the Chargers, and then we head home to play in the playoff game.

It had to feel like a huge weight off. Did you feel the weight of – No, I don't think I felt the weight because I'd been there long enough. Yeah. I had been a part of maybe Sam Davis, our left guard, and Ray Mansfield, our center, who'd been there seven, eight years. Andy Russell at linebacker. They experience the weights off.

And I think it's like anything, it's great to be appreciated. It's great to do something that makes people feel good, not only about the team that they love, but about themselves and the city that they're in. So that's where the joy from winning came from, was all the people that felt so good about it, including yourself, obviously. You were in that category of too young to know how big it was. Yeah.

Oh, for sure. You know, it's to know how big it was. Yeah. Oh, for sure. You know, it's almost like a Brock Purdy. Yeah. You know, you look at that situation. I know it's different, but, like, he hasn't been around to know how good he's actually – He knows how good the 49ers were, and I'm sure when Ben Roethlisberger came into the Pittsburgh Steelers,

he was aware that there's a big hole. You know, you've got to win. And then all the other quarterbacks had followed. So I think Purdy in San Francisco knows about Young and he knows about Montana for sure. But the way he's performing, the way you guys were able

to go and win this game, the way you handled it, you're like, you don't really know. No, no. You don't know. You're nuts. You don't know. We knew we were good. What I knew for a fact was our defense was amazing. Yeah. You know, Jack Lambert, Kent State.

No, he wasn't there then. No? No. That was 75. Yeah, this is 72. So those guys just came on later. Then you got Stallworth after in what? You got 74. You got Stallworth and Swan. And some people forget that that was one of the best drafts of all time.

And Donnie Schell. And Lambert, I think. Yeah. I mean, there were four Hall of Famers in that draft. What a draft. Yeah. And then some guys that were pretty good. Mike Wagner. Yeah. You guys, I some guys that were pretty good, Mike Wagner.

Yeah. You guys, I mean, like you said, that's what it was. You built your team through the draft. And what Chuck Knoll did that was so brilliant, he started, see, the AFL was built off the black colleges, and the NFL did not go to the black college. They didn't recruit. From my knowledge, my best I know, that's just not where they went for players. Yeah.

All right? They went to the big schools. Chuck got in a plane, got his pilot license, and they started flying around all these black schools looking at all these players and going, hmm. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

Then, of course, everything just snowballed. And now, you know, it doesn't matter where you go. You know that. Yeah. Pittsburgh was a pioneer in that whole thing. Yes, they were. You know, with the Rooney rule, you know, and going out and getting –

Right. Scouting the black colleges. I mean, that's a huge part of why our league is our league. How long do you think – what's the longest you think Franco Harris went without having to talk about this game? I would pretty much assume. Five hours?

Depends on where. If he's traveling, he's talking about it. Him and Frenchy Fuqua. And Frenchy, you know, he's still buttoned up about it. Yeah. That's part of their legacy. Frenchy won't talk. Franco wouldn't talk.

Franco never said to his grave, he never said, touch the ground or not. But I did end up seeing finally a picture, and he did catch it. It didn't hit the ground. So that was part of the controversy, did it touch the ground? Did he trap it?

And to help it along, I always said, of course he trapped it. He had terrible hands. He needed help. Jack, what was the aftermath of this whole thing? As Terry alluded to earlier, this sparked a big rivalry between Oakland and Pittsburgh. Met in the playoffs the next four consecutive seasons. Big heated rivalry in the 70s.

Pittsburgh would go on to lose to Miami 20-17 in the AFC Championship game. Played in Pittsburgh, as we noted earlier. That was the 72 Dolphins team that went undefeated. Oakland would go on to win Super Bowls 76-80 in both those years. They would also draft our man Howie Long. Who wanted to be a Steeler. Ooh. Yeah. I didn't know that. Who didn't? Who didn't want to be a Steeler. Oh. Yeah.

I didn't know that. Who didn't? Who didn't want to be part of the Steel Curtain? His number was 75, and that was Joe Green's number. Mean Joe Green. Who's the most famous person in your phone? Oh, let's see. Bradley Cooper.

Bradley. Just went to his house a couple of weeks ago. New York. Let's see. Bradley Cooper just has you in his house. What kind of relationship is this? Co. Let's see. Bradley Cooper just had his house. What kind of relationship is this? Co-stars, baby. You're a co-star.

Yeah. We became buddies, and he's actually a bigger star than McConaughey now. Yeah. And, you know, I think, but, Julie, I don't even have you on my phone. You wouldn't take my call anyway. I would give the shirt off my back for you. Oh, yeah. Well, it wouldn't fit.

Probably be too small. Because you're too jacked. I'm jacked up. Jacked up. Yeah. But the legacy of this game. Got to also mention that this also sparked the Steelers' reign of dominance throughout the 70s.

Four Super Bowls in six years. 74, 75, 78, and 79. And yeah, we see the statue of Franco Harris welcoming us at the airport here. Has been there ever since. I've seen it firsthand. Is this the greatest game of all time? Look, you're asking the wrong guy that.

I mean, I was a part of this amazing play. But who am I to argue with anybody that says there's no other play that can come close to this considering the situation steelers and how they were presented or in the nfl and losing ways and the great owner rooney and all the controversy around it there are probably better better plays, but there's no controversy. No. This is filled with controversy, and that's what makes it great. And had the Steelers followed this up with just an average year the next year and the next year and just kind of fizzled, it wouldn't be the play.

It's the kickstart. Yeah, play. It's the kickstart. Yeah, exactly. It was the kickstart. Yeah. Let's go to the next segment where we, last final segment, Uncle Terry. What you got? Where we grade the game.

You grade the game? We grade. You grade the game? You grade the game. Me? You grade the, do we have any leftovers? Okay. Any leftovers, Jack?

Did we miss anything? Any more memes? No more memes today, unfortunately. We got to mention it was a 13 to 7 was the final score. Got it. Terry, it looks like you were a married man at the time. I was. Couldn't have been a good man.

Sorry. I want to apologize. Yeah, you got to apologize. Some things don't work. Look at the craft of Bill. We talked about great to apologize. Some things don't work. Look at craft and build. We talked about great draft picks. This was Franco Harris's rookie season. Right.

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I give it a 10. Is that how you do it? The name of the game is the Immaculate Reception. Let's score the game presented by WinBet. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Stakes one at a 10. 10.

Decimal's okay. 10. Let's go 10. Divisional round game? Div Decimal's okay. Ten. Let's go ten. Divisional round game? Divisional round game. Not an AFC championship game. Not a Super Bowl. Kickstart of the This is the kickstart. Right. Fucking Kyler. You snarty little punk over there.

Yeah. It's Terry Bradshaw sitting on a goddamn. He gives it a ten. It's a fucking ten. You can change it to a six after I leave. I don't care. Seems to be your show anyway. No, this is your show, baby. This is your show. I'm going to give it a 10 simply because that it's the number one play ever is in this.

Stakes were high, as high as ever. And you're right. It's not a Super Bowl, but it is the start of a great dynasty and a great competition between us and the Raiders, and not to mention the Raiders, also the Cowboys. All right? Because we played them in two of the Super Bowls.

It's the first playoff game for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Sixburg Steelers. That's right, baby. I'm backing up here, Terry. Just a gut check. I give it a 10. Yeah. Star power, it a 10. Yeah. Star power, 0 to 10.

How many Hall of Famers on both sides? 19. 19. You'd have to say, looking back, star power is a 10. 10? 10. Tough to argue with 19 Hall of Famers. Yeah.

Now, what's the game play 0 to 10, Uncle Terry? Now, this one. The what? The game play. How the game played out. I would give that a 6. 6? Now, what's the gameplay of 0-10, Uncle Terry? The what? The gameplay. How the game played out. I would give that a 6. 6? Yeah, that's just... That's an honest man right there.

Yeah, it wasn't much of a game. The name of the game. Immaculate Reception? Nothing better than that. Top notch. Nothing comes close. Nothing comes close. No, 10.

He just gave me a cowboy look when he said that. Now I know why he's in movies, i see that hey you don't see it again let me see that's right did you learn that from mcconaughey or from bradley cooper i learned that from mcconaughey yeah i don't think 10 is high enough for this game i don't think we have a number for the name of this game. That was a nine. That's good. What is the average is a nine?

Nine. Yeah. Let's see where it ranks in all the games that we've done. Oh, wow. This puts us right in between the 2004 ALCS game four between the Red Sox and Yankees. Who did we have? That was David Ortiz. And then just above Super Bowl XXV, the wide right game, Giants versus Bills. We're sandwiched right in between those.

Really? With our nine. You know, I thought, you know what? There's a lot of great Super Bowl games, but I thought that game, y'all. Were you with them when they played Carolina? Nope. Boy, that was awesome. That was awesome.

That was the last play. No, that was Brady leading them down for another field goal. Vinatieri, yeah. Yeah. Another 50-yarder. 48-yarder or a 50-yarder. I forgot which. But, yeah.

That was when Madden went on the thing and said that they should probably play for overtime. That was the Rams one. Was that the Rams one? Oh, that was in New Orleans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you want me to tell you about that game? So I'm over there, and I'm presenting the trophy. So it looks like Rams have won it.

So I'm over there going through now my list, general manager, head coach, who are going to get up there, the players. Here's a question I'm going to ask. And I'm, you know, I'm national TV in front of 100 million people. I can't screw this up. So I'm going through that. Touchdown, New England. Oh, shit.

Now I'm running back across the other side of the field because I'm on the other side. I'm back over there. New England head coach, general manager, owner, players we're going to have. People don't realize, man. Oh, man, it was bad. Live TV.

Freaking Brady. Live TV. They don't call him man. Oh, man, it was bad. Live TV. Freaking Brady. Live TV. They don't call him one take Terry for nothing. Hey, I'm sitting in the locker room in Green Bay, and I had picked the New York Giants all the way through Dallas and Green Bay. I picked them to win. I'm the only one. I got them right. Everybody else has been

nailing the giants you know and they're just i'm the only one but tell that to the lady that mrs mara that owns the she didn't know that she just heard all the so i'm up there and i'm talking and she's pulling on my pants leg i didn't know it it. And I'm talking, and she's like, you never picked foot. I'm like, hey, I'm live. I'm talking on TV. I'm like, hey. Ms. Mara. And then finally, finally, I said,

Kurt, I got so proud of you. It is Mrs. Mara. Maybe that was the Super Bowl when she did that hat. Was it the Super Bowl? It may have been because I remember walking in the crowd in Green Bay, going to the Giants locker room, and it wasn't a good walk. Not good at all. You got to walk through all those owners, girlfriends, players,

and all of them are, yeah. But I picked them, so I felt good, but I didn't feel good when I started walking through there. Not Lambeau. But, yeah, it would have been at the Super Bowl in the Giants. No, no, that was the playoff game because when y'all – when they won it in Phoenix, that wasn't part – it was in Green Bay where she was jerking on my pants,

and I'm going, Kurt, someone brought this ball in and pulled it on my pants. And I'm going, Kurt, some old broad is pulling on my pants. And she was doing it because she thought you picked against? Yeah. But you picked for. Hey, you've been pulling against. She was mad. And I'm like, hey, what did you say? The biggest play was in the.

Hey. Finally, I went, some old broad is pulling on my pants. She couldn't find that. Oh, my brought this bullet on my chest. He couldn't find it. It's Miss Mara. Oh, my God. This is not good. She owns the New York Football Giants. So at the end of the year, I get a really nice letter from her.

She's the sweetest thing in the world. And it became, for a couple of years, kind of a shtick. Well, I talked to Miss Mara. I didn't talk to Miss Mara. She's told me Giants are going to win, so I'm going with the Giants. I mean, it kind of became part of the shtick. She's watching. Oh, God.

She's obviously watching. Yeah, it was funny. Man, Terry, we miss anything about this game? I don't know. You didn't play any of my music. That upsets me. How did you... I mean, we wanted to bring your music in,

but I thought you'd get uncomfortable because we already talked about your two talents, football and acting. No music. Four times at the Grand Ole Opry, isn't that right? Four times at the Opry. Two gospel albums. Both up for a Dove Awards, which is like a Grammy.

What haven't you done? I haven't. Horses? I haven't skydived and don't plan on it. Why not? I'm scared to death of that. Are you scared of heights? Yep.

I'm not real good with heights. My wife changes all the light bulbs in the house. I don't climb old ladders. I don't blame you. I'm not getting up. Yeah, 75. That's how you go down with the hip. That's how you go down with the hip. That's how you go down with the hip.

And she's like, I'll do, no, you get on that ladder. And as long as I can hold on to something as I'm going up. But, man, you'll find out one of these days that, man, when you get old. It sucks. Petrified to fall. Howie and I talk about falling. I want to fall. Don't hit me.

Don't push me. You know? But no, I've had a Julian. I've had a first of all, I've never had so much fun in doing. I call this an interview, but I've enjoyed this more than you. I just think the world of you. I picked up on you right off the bat i always liked you and uh you're talented as i'll get out and this has just been fun you

know i've just enjoyed it i hope we clean it up a little bit we'll be we'll be i don't want to be represented but it has been so much fun and i just think think, yeah, I like the way you did it. I like the way we kind of circumvented the whole thing and then nailed it on the end. So much fun. I thank you so much for having me. I appreciate you. You know, the game is an excuse for us, honestly,

just to have a conversation with you about not just your football career, your acting, your music, the horse. It's just cool to get in here and have a legend. Well, it's nice to share with everyone that, you know, as you go through life, and I'm definitely on the other side of the hill there, but there's so many things that we all do that people don't know about i mean they don't know about my ranches and how many stallions we stand and all the things we do in the horse business which is so much fun they don't know about you know me singing at the at

the clay cooper theater every year yeah traveling doing casinos and singing singing are you kidding me it's so much fun i I remember when I was doing Vegas and I used to get so nervous when I did Vegas. And then one night I had the lights come up. I wanted to take a look at this crowd. And when they

brought the lights up and I saw all the wheelchairs and the oxygen laying over on the side and people asleep, i just thought all right no reason to be nervous and that set me free now y'all sitting in front of two or three thousand people it doesn't even faze me because i know number one they can't hear number two probably can't see and number three they're either asleep or they got to pee

or they just peed in their pants. It's just fun. And I'm their age. And so it just kind of set me free and I don't get nervous anymore. He doesn't get nervous anymore, folks. He doesn't get nervous. That's what I got out of it hey terry i appreciate you so much for coming on love you buddy i love you bro yeah you're a good man you're a great man

watch this podcast hey by the way bounty thank you boy that was an awesome show terry what an absolute legend legend he's a pro storyteller pro storyteller hall of famer our second hall of famer actually peyton was our first i believe man dropping dropping oh i'm hanging out with brad warner too i thought it was sorry kurt sorry kurt kurt warner sorry um dropping stories that he's hanging out with bradley cooper like it's nothing yeah i mean he said he was talking he was was with Bradley a couple days ago. Big time, big time. It was so cool for me as a teammate, too,

like, that was like, you know, Fox teammate, you know, I felt like the guy in the locker room that has a charity event that's probably on, like, special teams trying to make the team and fucking the starting quarterback came to my charity event. He shows up at the bowling alley. He came to my charity event. He shows up at the bowling alley. He came to my charity event. Love him.

That was so cool. Yeah, he was getting on you, Kyler. I liked it. He was getting on you. He was. He said, don't you interrupt me. Uncle Terry's about politeness. You got to respect your elders.

Respect, baby. I love his Southern accent when he did the cold open. What is that voice? So good. That was awesome. Which we haven't heard yet. No, we did. It's at the end.

Never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, I mean, this is like the Immaculate Reception. You don't get much more of a game with name than this. No. This is the game. This is the game with a name. I'm still shining on having Terry Bronshaugh at my house.

So sick. Eating chicken in the back. See, people didn't see that, but, you know, I saw on Fox, I always saw Terry always going for that fried chicken. When Popeyes was in, Terry was in there. All the guys are like, usually coaches are from the south, you know, so they all love that shit. Jimmy Johnson and Terry get that fried chicken.

So what would I say? I told the team, I was like, yo, we got to have fried chicken waiting for Terry after the show. That's my tip of the cap to the captain. Veteran move by you on that one. I love it. Veteran rookie move. Veteran rookie move.

Veteran rookie move. You got to know how they move in the locker room. You always got to take care of the vets. Very observant of you as well. Well, it was a heavy hitter. You always remember those things. It reminds me back when you're at the locker room and, you know, on Fat Friday we used to call it, you know,

the guys would be going wild during practice because we heard what the catering thing was. Guys were fucking excited. We got our shit. It was like five guys, all that stuff. Yeah. Billy O'Brien would be like, he'd get so mad at us if we didn't execute. I know you guys are fucking thinking about your fucking burritos from Chipotle

because we got Chipotle in there. But can we get goddamn zero out, ride 34, right? Even get Easton. Your fat fucking pizza Friday. We all know it. You guys, us coaches got to go home and sleep after this performance on a Friday. You guys have fat fucking Friday. That's great.

That's great. That stuff crusts on the brain. Oh, my God. Billy O, you used to get so bad at pizza Friday. What was the favorite restaurant? I remember when that whole Popeye craze was coming out with the chicken sandwich. They don't have Popeyes around us. So, like, I think we had to send someone to, like,

New Hampshire or something to get a Popeye's. The whole team, everyone's in there, fucking critic, this shit's fire. You guys see the Popeye's? We got this chicken sandwich. Those were naughty. Those were, like... They were hard to get.

That was, like, mucking hard. Dude, you're in the cold tubs. After practice, guys are sitting there talking about the goddamn food. Oh, you guys get the Popeye's yet? Nah, dude. I'm waiting until after my, we get my workout in so I can earn it. You know what I mean?

Yeah. You going to get it? Yeah, dude. Yeah. Just fucking, I slammed two of them right when I came off the field. I'm about to go hit it for a third time. That's, that Friday's were the best. So that, that's why I wanted to get Terry what he wanted.

That's, that's a i wanted to get terry what he wanted that's that's a man-to-man gesture that i i'm i pay attention what you like big dog hell yeah it goes a long way man that was fun i can't wait for you guys i can't wait i can't wait for this one to come out that'll be so sick how about uh you want to pop into this post-show segment? What segment are you talking about? Today, we're hitting the hotline. The hotline. Grab bag action. Some game wrecks. Some musings.

Some questions. Is this thing named? Is this going to be a regular? Are we going to call this Games with Names Hotline? What is the segment? I like the Games with Names Hotline. Hit me on my hotline. What is the song?

Hotline bling. Hotline. I know in that hotline bling like you only mean one thing you know i know in the hotline bling we love drake hey drake come on the show bro see me big scorp come on drake we could talk anything bro i met him once at a nice guy i would have never shaken i would have never washed my hands if i touched drake for the rest of my life. Oh, I love him. He's cool as hell.

He's a beast. I felt so weird. You feel weird when you have to introduce yourself to someone. We just won a Super Bowl. You're humble. Yeah, but you would introduce yourself to anybody. He knew who you were. Nah, he knew who I was, but I had to go to his. I went to his table.

I wanted to see Drake. We had some limelight. After you win a Super Bowl, you got a shot. You got to take him. Hell yeah. You know Big Scorp recognized. Allelight after he went to Super Bowl. You got a shot. You got to take him. Hell yeah. You know Big Scorp recognized. Let's get into this segment. Hotline Bling. Again, the phone number. Games with names. Hotline Bling. Phone number 424-291-2290.

Hi, this is Jan, aka Edelfan. I have three questions. I'll make it fast. You said that you stole the last pair of shoes that Tom wore as a patriot. I'm wondering if you have the last shoes that you wore as a patriot. Jan. Oh, Jan. She's always had everything.

OG. Legend. OG. Confirmed she bought one of those Forever Foxborough shirts. Confirmed. Confirmed. Hell yeah. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

We love Jan. Love her. Any lover any charity event anything jan's there she got squirrel mask she got do i have those cleats i i think i have those cleats somewhere i think i my last cleat it wasn't a cool game so i think i yeah i have them somewhere but they're nothing special my last game was against the 49ers 49ers how about that all right what's next one i have a question for julian imagine you're lying alone in bed in a dark motel room you stare at the ceiling and hear the sounds of cars driving by outside your window a voice from above presents you with a choice Thank you so much. That's AI. Maybe. That sounded like AI.

Maybe a Canadian. It's only Canadian. They have milk in their bags. Ice cold milk, first off. What is this, 1930? Anyone like warm milk? Oh, my God. Kurt likes warm milk?

Oh, that's disgusting. Oh, my. And then what was the last one? The other one? And what would your dreams be? What would my dreams be? After a nice cold glass of milk in a motel room. My dream now is for my kid

to grow up and do something amazing. That's my dream now. I love that. Having her succeed in what she wants. Who knew such a bizarre question would have such a nice answer? Really? Cold milk,

kid go far. Alright, last one. November 1st, 2008. Lubbock, Texas. The top-ranked Texas Longhorns, led by quarterback Colt McCoy, take on the Texas Tech Red Raiders, led by Graham Harrell and coach Mike Leach. Rest in peace.

Leach. This shootout was capped off by one in a million cash. Not quite as good as Julian Edelman's Super Bowl cash, but pretty dang good. This is the fill in the game with Nate here. This is your boy, Dallin, from Pennsylvania. Jackie Tyler, you guys rock. Love you guys.

Right on. What was our guy's name? I believe that's Dallin Yo. Dallin Yo from PA. Dallin. Hell yeah. Dude, if you're going to call in with a game rec, that's the way you got to do it.

Take notes. He did the cold open. He did the games with names, films, type open. And he hit them with a hurrah, hurrah, hurrah. Hurrah, hurrah, hurrah. Red Raider. Rocky. And he hit him with a... Rocky! I'm not talking to you, Rocky. Rocky.

Look at Rocky. He got a haircut because he got all dreaded up. Looking good. All right. No more, no more, no more, no more, no more. So what was the question? He was just recommending... Oh, yeah. We do the 2008 Texas versus...

We got to figure it out. Maybe we get Colt McCoy and Cliff. Oh, is Cliff there? No. Was this the Michael Crabtree game? 2008. When was Dola there? Dola, that was the year Dola got drafted.

Okay, so this was after him. So Dola might have a hookup. We'll figure it out. Yeah, that's a good one. PA, what's his name? Dallin. Dallin, that's a cool name. PA, what's his name? Dowland. Dowland, that's a cool name. I think he sent us like a cool hockey jersey.

You got a hockey jersey? Yeah. Yeah, this was the Michael Crabtree game where he caught it on the sideline and he broke the tackle. That's awesome. He got drafted top 10 because of that. 39-33, Texas Tech won.

Crabtree in college. Crabtree-Sherman game would be so sick. Yeah, we'll try to get that in there. Hell yeah. Hey, for anyone else who ever recommends a game, come on. Hey, there's a standard now. I'm correct. As Mike Tomlin said, the standard is the standard.

Okay, I don't understand it, but it sounds great. It does. Good Steelers callback, too, since it sounds great. It does. Good Steelers callback, too, since it's a Steelers game. Man, what an episode that was. Thanks again to Uncle Terry. Legend. Legend. And that's been another episode of Games with Names presented by Winbet.

Remember to follow Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, X, and Snip... Snipchat? Snipchat. Snipchat. Snipchat. My face. Is that the Jewish version of Snapchat? Oh.

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