Games with Names - The Letterman Jacket Game with Stevan Ridley | Texans vs. Patriots

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

Stevan Ridley is in studio! The Super Bowl Champion and former NFL running back is with us to relive one of the most infamous regular season games in league history: The Letterman Jacket Game between ...the Houston Texans and the New England Patriots from the 2012 NFL season. Rid joins us on the couch (2:39). We go back to December 2012 (1:05:18). We get into these teams (1:18:34). We dive into the game (1:24:41). We score it (1:55:14). Rid sticks around to hit the Chill Line with us in this week's edition of The Chill Zone presented by Coors Light (2:00:51).Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:43 They're Jack and Kyler. And we are on a mission to find the greatest game of all time. On today's episode, we are covering Week 14, 2012 Texans vs. Patriots, aka the Letterman Jacket Game, game with Super Bowl champion, national champion, and former NFL running back my teammate, Steven Ridley. And we get into talking the infamous Letterman jackets. Bro, you're coming up in our shit, swagging out rocking these jackets like this is about to be a cakewalk. It was disrespectful. We also get into RID's love for LSU. Being blessed with the opportunity
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Starting point is 00:03:54 Lite you gotta stick around to the very very end let's go games with names is a production of IHeartRadio. December 10th, 2012, Gillette Stadium, Foxboro, Massachusetts. The 11-1. Texans roll into the Bay State for a Monday night showdown. Wait! What are they wearing? This is the Letterman-Jackie game. Massachusetts to Bay State? I've never heard that. I thought that's Rhode Island.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Steve, welcome to Games with Names, bro. I appreciate you having me on, man. I didn't know how long you were going to wait to get me in here, but you know I'm here. Well, we've been waiting because we just wanted to accumulate all the stories That we lived through But the the specific game we're gonna hit today is actually a game that I reference all the time and I'm so excited to actually go and Talk about this story with someone who balled in this game. Come on man. Today we're looking at the Letterman Jacket game.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Woo hoo. Texans versus the Patriots. Week 14, 2012 game. In one sentence, why this game? And this game was, it was special for so many reasons cause I think we were both coming in two hot teams towards the end of the year. But ultimately we had a little chip on our shoulder, man,
Starting point is 00:05:28 because I think everything goes through Foxbird in that point in time while we were balling. And those boys came in rocking the Letterman jackets and all the good stuff. Hey, it looked good for pregame. But as y'all see, as we get into this, man, we were all about the business. So that's why we picked this game,
Starting point is 00:05:44 because it was two good records, two good teams going at it, but ultimately it was Patriots today. Man, is this the greatest game of all time? No, come on man. You gotta have actual game for it to be a good game. Like it was something on camera for y'all to watch, but I don't think it was much of a game.
Starting point is 00:06:02 So we asked everyone, right? It was one to remember for sure it was for sure yeah what's life looking like these days man life is good life is good man got married married in June I got throw that out there first to my bribe man and you know things change once you get married but before that you're the rubber band ring guy yeah you know activities huh so I'm doing it yeah rubber band ring guy? Yeah, you know. That's for activities, huh? Sound good. With your rubber band.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You know, you gotta be safe with it. You know, I got the bling bling when it's Friday or Saturday night, but through the week, we just keep the rubber on and hunting and fishing and doing the outdoor stuff. We can't have the diamonds on all the time. Now, like, can stuff really, like, I remember my dad, he'd be working on cars
Starting point is 00:06:42 with my mom's ring on. O.G. O.G. I'm like. You gotta turn on those wrenches and get hung up on something. I know. It's bad news. You're probably knocking that thing everywhere.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Old school, bro. Shout out to Pops, man. He ain't soft. You know, some of these kids don't have no calluses on their hands, but you know, get to talking about Pops. K-Rig got some callus on. And the country boy from Mississippi, it is what it is. But yeah, dawg, so it's good, man.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Life is okay. We're transitioning, you know. Ball retired in 2018, 2019, so we're right at five or six years out. And we're just kind of finding my way, man. Finally got out here to the West Coast permanently. Spent many off seasons with this cat on the West Coast. He's lucky he was born in the great state of California.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I was just a country boy dreaming trying to get West. And my bribe was on this side for eight years before me. I was back and forth. And then I finally made it official two years ago and moved out here to the West Coast. So get to pull up on this fella from time to time, man. So it's good. Love it.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And I love it. Cause we hung out a lot when we played together. You grew up in Mississippi. Yes, sir So I spent a little time on the Mississippi River did a little research about the Louisiana purchase out in 1803 for 15 million dollars I mean what? Well, I was just I was at the Super Bowl and I had I was interested in the Mississippi River You're from Mississippi. You also went to school at LSU. Can you explain some of this? LSU Louisiana crazy, I don't know. I was so interested with that area with the Super Bowl. How was it in Louisiana?
Starting point is 00:08:13 All right, shout out man Louisiana purchase 1803 15 million bucks all the way up to the Minnesota president. Huh? What was the president? Oh Who's the president? Well, who was the president? What year was he? Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson, wow. Stole that land.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Look, okay, we speak it on the real. No, I mean, as a business deal, 15 mil. I mean, it was literally, you speak of the Louisiana fringes. He stole it from the French, who stole it from some other people. Okay, okay, okay. Well, we don't want to get too deep into that,
Starting point is 00:08:45 do we? But hey, either way. Either way. The South, bro, is real. You know, and I gotta always throw out there my LSU Tigers. Without my platform at LSU, man, going down there handling business, being blessed with the opportunity
Starting point is 00:09:00 to go and play in Tiger Stadium. I tell people all the time, man, we play in front of the best fans in all of football. No disrespect to the Boston, no disrespect. But 100,000 screaming fans, probably a good 75% of them are wasted from Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night in the buildup. But football is life down there.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And I tell people all the time, man, it's like, you know, you come up in the South, it's not very much to do. Country town, we grew up hunting, fishing, playing ball. We're bikes. Riding quads, you know, we just like, we're country folks, we're outdoor people. But that molds us to be some of the best ball players.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And I might put a little wildfire on the jewels when I say this, but when you look into the athletes and the guys around the league, it's a whole lot of ballers that come out of that Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas. I'm not throwing Arkansas in there. We'll stick with the city of Louisiana, bro. But really, Ryan Mallet played in this game.
Starting point is 00:09:59 He finished it. He's Arkansas. He's Texas, or he's from Arkansas, isn't he? From Arkansas, I think Mallildog was from Arkansas. Yeah, amazing, thanks. We battled it out through college, man, and Mallet was the fiery one coming in the stadium. He was talking noise, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:13 why you gotta always look at your white boys, man, and come in and that really ball and do it. And Mild was the quarterback, and Mild just kind of ran his mouth and talked noise, like nobody had ever seen, but he was a gunslinger, bombed the ball down there 60, 70 yards with ease. And he was just, he was wild child, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So God rest his soul, that's my dog forever. And so he's not in the Southern, the South doesn't accept him though, because Arkansas. He's Arkansas, I'll give it to him, because he's a legend in Arkansas, in the SEC. He gets there, but Mississippi, Louisiana though, is strong, dude. You know, you got that Ole Miss LSU rivalry.
Starting point is 00:10:48 But, you know, coming up, coming out of high school, went to a small little private school. Never thought in a million years I'd go to Division I, sent out those highlight films, sent out three. I wanted to stay close to mom so she could make it. And the dream was always to get to LSU. So, going back to that, man, it was really one of those deals that if they ever offered or said,
Starting point is 00:11:09 hey, they'd give me a shot, it was a no-brainer, I was going. And it's by far to date the best decision I ever made to go to college in Baton Rouge. Because I tell people all the time, man, it's nothing like playing ball for the LSU Tigers, man. When you're playing there and you're balling, you're a god in Louisiana, man
Starting point is 00:11:25 Let me tell you something right now rid talk to me. Okay when you play in front of 3,000 people in Ken, Ohio on your senior day. I'll tell you that's a fucking environment that you gotta see Alright, that's what you need to see Because bother teammate down the road Roosevelt Nicks went to Kent State. And you know, when I bring up these guys, I look at them and I was like, they don't have many. But when I look at Jules and I look at Rosie, man, these are guys that are, they don't have the respect,
Starting point is 00:11:59 but every one of y'all that I meet come out of y'all just- James Harrison, Josh Cribbs. I mean, the fucking Mac Daddy love in the league. Come on, y'all that meet come out of y'all. James Harrison, Josh Cribbs. I mean the fucking Mac Daddy love in the league. Come on y'all grind. The Mac Big Ben. Max Crosby. Max Crosby. He's Ken Statham?
Starting point is 00:12:14 No, well, see. You gotta claim the conference. In a Mac school we go whole conference. Okay, okay. As a team. Our whole conference is a team. Okay. You know? Okay, okay. Well hey. But L conference is a team. Okay, you know, okay. Okay. Why but
Starting point is 00:12:27 Lsu I mean, I just remember you always talking how Crazy the environment was you always I mean you clearly love at LSU and every guy that goes to LSU loves LSU like The alumni that come from there Can you speak about some of the guys you play with that went to the league and just that LSU freaking tree of guys that go to the league? Who we got in LSU? Absolutely. Let's make a list. Absolutely, man.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I guess I'll talk first with some of the ones I came in with and then some of the ones that came behind. How about we do that? Because I want to talk about the ones who paved the way for me. All right, who paved the way? So when I came there as a recruit, Recruit.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Jamarcus Russell was quarterback. Jamarcus Russell. Dwayne Bowe was that receiver, early Doucet, Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Ali Haasmith. Brandon LaFell. Brandon LaFell. B. LaFell. JoJo was a little bit younger than those guys,
Starting point is 00:13:21 but I played with JoJo. These were guys that I was coming in watching. The LaRon Landrys, the Scholar Greens, I don a little bit younger than those guys, but I played with Joe, these were guys that I was coming in and watching, the LaRon Landrys, the Schuyler Greens, I don't know if y'all know those numbers, Trinidad Holliday, being a little rocket, man. But these were guys that we played with, and if you look at the running back room, I called him my grandpapa, was Jacob Hester.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I don't even know if y'all know that guy, but he was one of the, he was the baddest white boy that I knew before I met Jules, I'll say that, man. Because Hest was a running back, he was downhill, bro, and I really learned so much from him because he was a full back before he was a running back. So talk about that grit and the star power
Starting point is 00:13:54 that you get out of the boot and you get out of Louisiana. I think it has a lot to do with how we grind down there. Like we are really truly, it's always us versus them, but we are the type of people that I'm not gonna say we're the scholars that you find at Notre Dame, but you're gonna find some hard working, die hard, ball or nothing, sold out individuals that just want to be great. I know you guys did pay cuts when you guys got to the to the league I can't speak on all that because I was just trying to hold on Tebow teams taking pay cuts when you came to the Patriot
Starting point is 00:14:33 All you guys get paid. Hey, hey, it's good. It's good when it's good, but I ain't gonna say that Uh, I can't speak on it too much I see you listed as a fullback early at LSU? Well, when we got there, young age, as a running back, they always wanted every running back to have a little bit of fullback in their DNA before they started holdin' the pill. Because when you hold the pill,
Starting point is 00:14:56 you hold the life of the team. But the physicality of the SEC and old school football, I have to bark and say that because they changed the game a lot. I've only had double digit concussions. I'm in full on agreeance that it needs to be softened up a little bit, but that wasn't my day.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It was my day. We were two tight ends, full back, downhill, playing smash mouth ball. But LSU always, if you play the running back position, they put you at full back first just to make sure that you'd go in there and kiss that linebacker in the mouth and you weren't scared to contact.
Starting point is 00:15:26 So that's how we came up. You know, we came up rough. We had an awesome string coach. I got to give it to Tommy Moffitt, man. He was one of the pillars of LSU, but he- Tommy Moffitt. Developed, he's at Texas A&M as the head string coach now. But he was one of those pillars to LSU, man,
Starting point is 00:15:42 that was there for 20, 30 years. I'm not sure how long Coach Moffat was there, but we had those long days on the grind where it was 110 degrees out there. It's humid as hell. You see the- Hot in fucking Louisiana. You see the, you just left from down there.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Come on now. We played Louisiana Lafayette in September once and it was smokin'. It's brutal, bro. Hot. You get out there and you literally see the waves coming off the field, and we had what we call the 110 test.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And so we had to run 26 110s. Everybody has a conditioning test after the past year starts, but that kind of lets you know where your teammates stood because the 110 test was no joke. Coach Moffitt comes out there, hands behind the line. Everybody's lined up, offense lineman go, your skill position go, your running backs go,
Starting point is 00:16:29 but when I tell you guys who are falling out, I'm not even stretching the story a little bit, excuse my language mom, I watched a guy shit on himself and not stop, bro. Seriously, from running this 110 test, because if you stopped and you missed one, didn't matter if you were on 21 or seven, you're starting over and you're doing this again.
Starting point is 00:16:45 So nobody wanted to run that conditioning test any more than you had to. But this was the DNA of our team. You know, you- The conditioning test, cause now granted, for the listener, they build these boys up to get to there throughout the off season. And then they get like two, three weeks off
Starting point is 00:17:03 where they get to go home. And then they come back before the season. That's when they hit it. Or it could be before they leave for the season. So they build you up. So you've been working and you've been seeing guys shit and piss themselves to try to get to this point to this day.
Starting point is 00:17:16 But like the conditioning test is always like, you see men cry in college. In college, the pro ones are a joke. But when you go to college, we used to have to do 10 300s with a minute. We had like a minute to do the 300 and you had like 45 seconds rest. I remember watching grown men cry
Starting point is 00:17:38 because they didn't want to start this thing over and like guys are stripping and stuff. I mean, that's the conditioning test that's supposed to take your soul in college. And it was effectively done in Baton Rouge year after year. I'm talking about you'd come out there, two pair of cleats, two pair of socks, you knew you were gonna run through a pair,
Starting point is 00:17:56 you see guys shucking clothes like Jules says, but whatever it was, you didn't wanna be the guy that didn't make it, because you had to run it again and number two you let the position group down so then it's like show everyone on the team you didn't make it that you didn't make it be on that list you didn't put that grind in and then you got to sit out there you go to the cafeteria to get your food looking at your ass like you get a guy like me and say me I don't think you should be in this line maybe you should go hit the fucking treadmill
Starting point is 00:18:26 Really how it goes, bro, you got it. I mean, what the fuck are we doing? We're supposed to go to battle with this guy. You can't do the conditioning test You ain't even ready to go. We're supposed to we're supposed to be a two-minute drill for the fucking Super Bowl National championship and this guy can't make his fucking conditioning. I got a road. We're gonna rely on this guy Can we depend on you? That's like the same thing if this guy was to cut the ball like is he going green or red? We're gonna cut we're gonna rely on this guy to cut the fucking bomb the wire That's how important it is. You're the guy in full metal jacket who like puts them on and gets the oranges over That's you. You're the ringleader for that guy. No, I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:19:03 Fucking let's go conditioning test boys. It comes down to like we say earning your stripes, bro You had to earn your stripes at LSU you had to come in that thing ready to play The big dogs were out there and they weren't checking up Some of them boys are running 26 110s and I remember one time and we were so physically in shape and The team was freaking, this is another funny story, we were out there freaking running, we had, I think Coach said if we had a certain percentage of the team pass, because nobody,
Starting point is 00:19:32 we never made it like 100%, but he's like if a certain percentage of the team passes, we'll only run it once and we smoked it. And Coach Moffitt was pissed that we won. He was like, on the sideline. So we went from running 26 one 10s and he made us run gassers after that. But I want to say we ran those 26 one 10s
Starting point is 00:19:51 and gassers were from sideline to sideline. You'd have to go 50 yards over, 50 yards back, but we'd have to do it twice. And so it was equivalent of running a down and back 100, but you go 50 at a time. That's harder because you have to break down. When you got to touch lines and stop, you gotta rev the, you gotta slow the engine down
Starting point is 00:20:08 and you gotta rev that shit up. It's not like you're cruising on that goddamn freeway you can put that thing in cruise control. And get on out there. I guess the mileage goes down when you stop and start. Hell yeah. It's the same thing in a fucking body. It's 100% because 110's the secret is you get in shape. If you get out for the first 30 or 40 yards,
Starting point is 00:20:27 you can coast on the cross down there. I always dug for the first, like I would, I was always a rabbit. Get out. I would get out. Jules is high energy, bro. I mean, as y'all know, calling a squirrel, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Fucker never got tired, bro, ever. And I mean, but it's just who he is. And so we'll get into that later on. When I first laid my eyes on a man and The love that I have for this guy before we get out of before we get out of LSU What are your thoughts on Brian Kelly? What's going on? Are we are we accepting him? Oh See you I mean you're part of your we part of the brotherhood of their mouse in your pocket. We oh you I'm not a Mean, I'm not against him. I We oh you I'm not uh, I mean I'm not against them
Starting point is 00:21:06 I'm not a I'm not all for him Yeah, when this year though, right said again, you got a win this year Did we make it to the playoff? Hey buddy, let's just look at the last few head coaches that we've had at LSU We are not afraid to pay you to get the hell out of town. Okay, so I'm just gonna be real We have ballers and we know we have ballers. We're strong every year. We need coaches, we need leadership, and I think that's what they looked for in BK.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And I'm not giving up on BK. I just say that BK's got his work cut out ahead of him, and I don't think he's too comfortable in Baton Rouge right now, even though he's the head man, because our standard is not where it's been the last year or two. Like it's like Natty or Buster on that place and then if it's not Natty it's like one or two wins and we'll let you make it until next year. So you know those boosters ain't afraid to throw that cash and make sure that we get the right people in
Starting point is 00:21:59 there because we know that we have the players there and the cultures there it's built and we have a standard bro. And we believe the SEC goes through us, especially with Saban being gone, for God's sakes. I mean, that was the only person that we had. That was a giant that we knew every year. Whoever wins that LSU-Bama game most likely is gonna be in your national championship talk. What about Georgia?
Starting point is 00:22:19 They're on the other side, bro. They're on the other side. But, they're silent. Some would say Brian Kelly's in a sticky situation. Sticky situation, bro. On the other side. But. Some would say. Who we're going to. Brian Kelly's in a sticky situation. Sticky situation bro. Not because of the humidity. In Baton Rouge. Baton Rouge. In Baton Rouge dude.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Because hey it's a winter go home around there bro. Truly. National title in 2007. You got it. Before we got to put a stamp on it. How was winning an ad in college. Man it was awesome. It was awesome. I was a redshirt freshman. So I got to put a stamp on it, how was winning an ad in college? Man, it was awesome, it was awesome. I was a red shirt freshman, so I gotta say that.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So I think it all goes back to like, hey, you have kids, I don't have kids yet, but it goes back to your upbringing and your childhood. When you come in as a freshman, and the first year that you get there, Matt Flynn, Jacob Hester, Brandon LaFell, Demetrius Byrd, those guys lead you to a national championship against Ohio State, Beny Wells, big back,
Starting point is 00:23:10 love me some big backs, I'm a big back myself, so remember big backs like Beny Wells, Ted Ginn Jr. You know, they had a squad, but where did they play? They came down to New Orleans. Is it home cooking or is it just, hey, we're going to ball out for our people? Did it feel like a home game? Every time, bro bro it is home. It's an hour down the road So if you got to see the Tigers in New Orleans, good luck. Now would you take the
Starting point is 00:23:33 Would you guys take the Mississippi River or would you take a bus? Because you could take the river from Baton Rouge all the way down bro to New Orleans That'd be real festive That'd be real festive we're real festive world the budget you imagine did you imagine a steamboat you guys are on that'd be fucking hard go LSU Tigers on the fucking steamboat coming down coming off the boat bro like a bunch of Vikings or something I just say it I think that's what they should do. Like a Vikings.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Hey, look, that would be kind of tight. A Southern Viking, but we just ride in by boat to any of the home games, close, close. That'd be intimidating if I was a Northern team and I saw a fucking steam, a river boat, steam boat, whatever they call them, fucking like with a casino on there, coming with a whole bunch of crazy dudes.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Let Mike run off the boat first. With trumpets and shit, and a bunch of beads coming everywhere, that would fucking intimidate me. I think you guys need to do it. Could y'all tell this guy just left Mardi Gras on New Orleans for the Super Bowl? Do you mean, dude, nah, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Did he get a taste of the sound? You know what, I went to Louis Armstrong Park. Get him, no big deal. Fucking, I'd walk through that bitch. That shit was sick. I took a couple pictures of statues, me and Louie. Oh, my God. Look, Jules. Classic, classic.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I don't even know what to say right now. I can't even. It was awesome looking back at that 07 LSU season because, yeah, it was a two loss championship game, but the championship team. But those two losses, triple overtime against Arkansas and then against Kentucky were some wild games that are totally in like games with names level memorable moments, yes It's a I'd not you say that the the Kentucky game where we went up there I remember that being the prettiest grass I'd ever seen in my life, bro
Starting point is 00:25:22 But it was like really thick remember how Bill told us in London, bring your spikes? I got benched that game by the way for not having my spikes, but when I went to Kentucky, it really was this thick grass. Kentucky blue, bubs. That's what they call it.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It's awesome up there, bro. The weather was nice, it was crisp, but we were the big dogs coming in, never really underestimated anybody. What year was that? 07. So that was the year we played them. I played them and we almost beat them.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah. Yeah. I went, I went crazy. We went to Kent State, went to Kentucky. I think we were tied up half time. And then they blew the brakes off us at the end of the game. Wasn't Randall Cobb, was that when Randall Cobb was up there? Randall Cobb was there and they had the tall,
Starting point is 00:26:02 number 14, who was the tall? Woodson, the quarterback. Yeah. Jules, I love that almost beating them is 56 to 20. No, but we were tied at halftime. For Kent State, for Kent State. Hey, we were tied at halftime, bro. Good fight.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Or were we up at halftime? But they were- I made them look silly. 14, 14 and a half. That was huge. We went up 14-0, I think. Were you ballin'? I was ballin'.
Starting point is 00:26:24 No, you didn't. No. You went 7-0 and then they scored. Then they went up 14-0 I think. Were you ballin'? I was ballin'. Come on. No you didn't. No. You went 7-0 and then they scored, then they went up 14-7 and then you tied it late. Hey, I mean that's resilient, that's called answering, that's building the lead, that's just a young, K, we ran out of bodies, bro. Hey, y'all went deep enough, huh?
Starting point is 00:26:38 Jules' stat line, 12 for 28 for 129 yards, touchdown and interception. What was my rushing? 24 attempts, 135. There you go. He's getting active on the wheels, Bubs. Active. See what I'm talking about. Hey, I didn't even know this cat played quarterback
Starting point is 00:26:56 until I got to talk to him a little bit, but hey, can't take it from him. Can't take it from him, he's going to get it done one way or the other. It don't matter if it's special teams, receiver, quarterback, it's like give the j going to get it done one way or the other. It don't matter if it's special teams, receiver, quarterback. Say give the joker the ball, let him do what he does. You're a hunter.
Starting point is 00:27:09 We're talking about Louisiana. You love the fucking outdoor shit. Do you ever hunt with Matt Light? I have not hunted with Matt Light yet. Me and Matt had talked about it a million times. You went to the shootouts, right? I went to his deal that he has up in Rhode Island. Yeah, the shootout, Matt Light shootout.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Made it one time. he had freaking army tanks and all kind of crazy stuff there. I got to get on the books with Matty Light. You got it, he's having something come up soon for, I mean, Matt raises money for everything. But it's something for the Matlai Foundation. Were you there when we found out he was hunting on the property?
Starting point is 00:27:42 No, but I did see that video. And as a true hunter at heart, he's brilliant. Cause animals always find less pressured areas, meaning they're gonna go where they're not gonna be shot at. So of course they're gonna camp out around the stadium where they think nobody's gonna kill them and a real killer like Matt Light's like,
Starting point is 00:28:02 uh, I know there's something in here. So hey, I tip my hat to Matty Ikes for that. Cause, hey bros, somebody's gotta get it done. What are your thoughts on the Vrebel hire? Man, Vrebel coming back, I look at it man, former player. Just say with Mayo, you know, Mayo got his one year in, but I just always pull for any coach that was a former player, especially if it's a New England, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:27 So Vrabel did his thing down in Tennessee. He had a little stint there, and I think he ran a good program. But for the organization and this rebuilding phase that we're in, nobody likes to say it, but it's the reality. We're in a rebuilding stage. Our time there in the dynasty is definitely dead and gone. And so when you look at Vrabrile and him coming in,
Starting point is 00:28:47 I'm not shocked by the hire at all. I think that they're gonna try to piece together a few old names that are familiar and then probably get some new juice in there as well. But I think overall, it is what it is, man. It's a tough business to be in. You never played with Rabe's, neither did I. But what do you remember hearing about Rabe's legend
Starting point is 00:29:07 in the locker room? Did you ever hear about him anytime in the locker room or the facility? The little bit I heard about him, I heard that he really was not a man that gave too many fucks about anything. He was kind of outspoken. Like he was a challenger, he challenged guys.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah, I've heard that about him I've only met him like once or twice, but I heard he was just that that attitude that you need in the locker room You know what I mean? That was that was him so I got worked you but and if you didn't work to his like I remember Hearing that shit. I think it's a great hire. I feel bad for Mayo. Of course, man But you know with all that said variables brought a team in Nashville to a one seed with Tannahill as the starting quarterback. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It's a championship game. I know they had a generational running back with Derrick Henry, but. The key, yeah. Like, that's still, they were one seed. Let's talk about running a program. You know, hey look, this, and go back, I gotta. You got a resume. I gotta give it to Mayo.
Starting point is 00:30:06 That's his first year in, so I hope he doesn't count himself out, I hope nobody else in the league counts himself out, but that's his first swing at it. Variable has run a program, you know what I mean? So when you look at that, it's like you can't discredit anybody's body of work, and he's got a good body of work. So he's familiar with the Pats. He's loved by the- I like him with Mickey D's too. Cause Mickey D's is back.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Josh McDaniels. Gucci, I call him Gucci. Mickey D's, Gucci man. I call him Gucci cause that Gucci loved to hand me the ball every now and then. If it was up to Tom and Jules and the big fella grunt, guess what? They're going to spin that bitch out there 80 times a game.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Every now and then, Coach McDaniels sprinkle in a few runs for the kids. So I love you, Coach McDaniel's sprinkling a few runs for the kids. So, hey, I love you, Coach McDaniels. I love you, Josh. Swear I do. What about Matty P going to Ohio State, D.C.? Just, hey, you just told me the news. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:30:58 We just saw Matty P here a few weeks ago. I know. So, that's dope. Matty P is defensive guru, man. I'm happy for him. Heck yeah. You gotta get some good media. Everyone hates on him too much. He's a fall guy for a lot of shit, I think.
Starting point is 00:31:10 On Matty P? Yeah. Matty P, I wasn't on the defensive side of the ball. We weren't on that side of the ball, so we might not have seen that side of the coach. The fans be getting on him. Matty P knows football. Yeah, he does do that.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And he's got like a photographic memory. So like, that means he can remember all the situations he's been in. Yeah, he does do that. Now he definitely. And he's got like a photographic memory. So like, that means he can remember all the situations he's been in. Yeah, yeah. He's a nerd. And defense is his shit. I mean, let's be real. I mean, he's a hell of a decoy.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I just don't understand how a lot of people, like a lot of people hate on him. He's jumped on a lot of grenades too. And you know, not doing well in Detroit, people didn't like that. And then the narrative built. Yeah, I know. People are dumb.
Starting point is 00:31:44 That, I mean, I guess, but. The outsiders always got something to say, Gats, we know that. Yeah. They really do and I think everybody, you know, this coaching world is tough. You know, I see so many players that are jumping into it and they want to run with it and do it.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And hey, just cause you know ball doesn't mean that you're necessarily a leader of men, you know? And that's what you got to look at with a coach. You know, you got all, not only just have your football IQ up there, you got to be able to lead guys, motivate guys, know how to hit that switch when they're back off. You know, it requires a lot. So I look at Matty P.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Matty P's been coaching for how long? Probably as long as I've been alive. So he's more than qualified. No, I don't think that long. 20 years? You're 28? No, I'm not that young, bro. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:32:26 He's probably been coaching as long as I've been alive. That was sarcasm, but I'm just saying. Like he's been coaching a long time. Would you say he's been coaching 20 years? I was about to say 28, like, 35 years. He's been coaching 35 years. Has he? I don't know, how old, you're 35?
Starting point is 00:32:40 I'm 30, I just turned 36. 36? Close enough. Close enough. Yeah, I'm just doing math. That's the Matty P thing to do. I'm doing the math. Checking you. So I think, that's fair, but I think Ohio State,
Starting point is 00:32:51 they got a hell of a hire, bro. I mean, on the highest level, you look at the time that we were in New England and he was calling the shots, our defense was strong, bro. Look at that, let's just talk about his defenses a little bit. Look at that linebacker core that we had to bang it out with every day with Brandon Spikes and Jamie Collins and
Starting point is 00:33:08 Dante Hightower and Rob Ninkovic, you know what I mean? Big V in the middle, Devin McCourty, Patrick Chung. I mean, it's like, does he know talent? I think so. I mean, so get him on a college level. Let's see what he can do with some kids that are trying to come on up, you know what I mean? So good for Matty P, man.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Congratulations. Heck yeah. I mean, Chip Kelly, one year offensive coordinator, now is the offensive coordinator for the Raiders. So Ohio State's a pipeline. You bounce around, bro. Ohio State really is like stepping map for guys like to get there. It's the new Alabama. The new Nick Saban.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah. And then Herb, wasn't Herb there before he went back to it? Before he went back to Jacksonville, Irving Meyer? Yeah. He was up there for a little bit and he jumped to Jacksonville after that. So you're right, it's kind of like a pipeline. Funneling coach.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Pipeline. Yep. We spent some crazy times in Foxboro. You gotta, I heard when you heard you were coming on, you got a little checklist of things you wanna go over. What do you got? Bring out the list. Bring it, let me see the list. Man, let me see what we got, man. Y'all got the list? You got it here, can you see it? I can also...
Starting point is 00:34:10 No, he got it. Rid wrote it down. He put it on a notes app. Which I have, I have a notes app that I put a password to and I don't know how to find the password. I'm never gonna be able to get the notes. And I need these notes. All right, well. I can't, I- Have you tried squirrel 11? Yeah. I don't know, dude. I've put in all the, I can't remember what state of mind I was when I did this.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Locked yourself out, bro? I'm locked out. I need the fucking info. I feel like the guy from Bitcoin. He's way worse than you, bro, with that deal. God. Hey. Dog, that was funny as hell. We'll see this list, what do we got?
Starting point is 00:34:47 We pulled up a list, man. I had my best friend, man, marketing agent. You didn't see Red without Moose. Moose has been around since day one. If y'all know any of Jules' best buds, man, me and Moose have been rocking since college, bro. We came to the first college class together at LSU. He's from Ruston, Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Ethiopian. Yes, well, no, Eritrean. Eritrean, but I thought he eats, it's the same. It's close. Close enough, close enough. East Africa. I mean, he's freaking as good as gold, bro. But Moose sent me some stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:21 He's like, Red, you going to the episode? He was like. And Moose got some stew and some of that, that sourdough. It's like a sourdough- He put that seasoning in that gumbo is what he did. Yeah, no, no. We're talking about Ethiopian style food.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Oh, oh yeah. Cause we just went to his wedding. It's like a stew and you have like a sourdough- The bread. Pita. The bread. Yeah, it's like, it's not pita, but it's really good. I got it, I got it. It pita, but it's really good.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I got it, I got it. It's delicious. It's called injera. Injera. Yes. Remember when we had that? His wedding was cool. They had like traditional like Ethiopian.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Did a little dance. We did dancing and shit. Came out in the. All his family members were all in like traditional African stuff. It was crazy. It was crazy and Beautiful at the top of freaking New York City somewhere. Hey my boy. You came a long way I gotta go ahead and give you a shot in long way came a long way for russ in Louisiana and Moose and me have been hand-in-hand every step of the way since I first talked to Jules
Starting point is 00:36:19 He's been around but he just sent me some little pointers that we're gonna have to talk about because he was like y'all talking about What game and he was like man make sure y'all throw this in because me and Jules got more stories probably off the field than we do on the field but uh hey we got we got some time to get into that. Oh my god. When we go to the list man I guess we'll start with how Bill put me at Fat Camp you know like when I was overweight coming in as a running back and do you want me to go ahead and elaborate on that story? When he started?
Starting point is 00:36:47 When he went in his back cam. Man. Was it heavyweights? Man. Did he bring in Ben Stiller, Tony Perkins? Bro, it was one of those deals. Billichek says Tony Perkins right now? Man, you get to New England
Starting point is 00:37:01 and of course you're going in there and it's Bill Belichick. Bill's intimidating, bro. Like you gotta give it to him, man. Like he's, he knows what he's doing. He's got a system in place and you don't mess with him. You know what I mean? You just don't.
Starting point is 00:37:15 You respect him. You're in the presence of one of the greatest to ever do it. If not the greatest coach to ever do it. I'm gonna give him his, man. He is. Cause I play for a lot of ball coaches, but you know, you have that meeting where you come in there and you're a rookie, he gives you your playing weight,
Starting point is 00:37:29 and he brought me into the office because I go to the weight room and Coach Nash, hop on the scale, Ridley, and I hopped on the scale. How much was it? And I'm leaving. How much was it? Even back in the roots, about 235, 238, somewhere in that. What year is this, rookie year?
Starting point is 00:37:44 It's my rookie year, so. You came in, 238, somewhere in that. What year is this, rookie year? It's my rookie year. So. You came in at 238? Came in, I played at LSU around 230. You know what I mean, like as a running back. But eight pounds is eight pounds. Eight pounds is a lot, bro. Eight pounds is a lot, and you wait till the story
Starting point is 00:37:57 gets going, cause y'all don't understand. What's the weight, what's the weight? So, Nash gets in there coaching Nash, he's our string coach, and he's like, Ridley, hop on the scales. I hop on the scale, and I think I was tipping that thing at between 235, 240, SEC running back between the tackles. I'm a big bat.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Hey, I obviously did something right, because coach, you drafted me, you like what you saw. Nash is like, Ridley, you got some work to do. I'm like, all right, you know, I ain't scared of work. Coach said you got to be at 220. I said 220? How? I said, Nash, you're tripping. I thought you were tripping, bro. I said, nah. He said, don't ask me. I'm just telling you what the boss man said. And I said, well, which boss man we talking about? He said, you can go see the head man if you want to.
Starting point is 00:38:43 There I went. You know what I mean? Like, what's the problem? I gotta go talk to coach and see what's up, because. The reason. So, you went from weight room. Yeah. You took that long ass walk down those hallways. To that entry door. And you saw Bearish.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Crossed Bearish's office. I said, Bearish, is coach available? And I didn't think I was doing anything wrong. I might've been getting off to, on the wrong foot with Bill Belichick Because here I am as a rookie walking into his office trying to tell him what my playing weight would be but what do I know? I'm a rookie guys. You know what I mean? I'm just coming in like coach. Come on. So Nash is telling me I'm 235 on a light day 240 if I finish leaving the breakfast buffet, eat my bacon and omelets and grits that I get every day.
Starting point is 00:39:28 So he's like, we want you at 2.20 by a certain day. I can't even remember what he said. So I was like, man, that's impossible. I was like, there's no way I'm gonna be able to do that. So I walked back, I said, all right, Coach Dash, I'm heading on up to go talk to Bill to see what's up, see if I can kind of work this out. You thought you were going in there to negotiate a pounds go talk to coach. I hear any couple coach
Starting point is 00:39:49 You give me to 228. Hey anything we beat it Can we meet in the middle and y'all when I tell y'all coach is so paint the picture you walk in What's where's he is? He had his desk at his computer Okay, so I leave I leave our weight room Walk through the locker room go by our meeting room go down the hallway and of course, I'm not really as Scared or cuz you don't know yet. I don't know yet. That's what I'm saying. Like I'm not as naive. I'm naive thinks he can go talk to Bill. Go talk to Bill, you know, like, can I not go talk to him? What an idiot.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Hey, it truly, when I look back on things now. If I was walking by you in the hallway as a second year or third year guy, I was just like, what a dumbass. Oh. I see you pass bears. So I come down the hallway, and you're saying all this to say, I have seen, I want to get too far off track, but I've seen rookies, y'all, like on my back end,
Starting point is 00:40:45 because I was there for four years. I've seen rookies come in and see Bill coming down the hallway, and they would literally just bust a left or right into a random meeting room. Because they don't want to look this man in his eyes, bro. Like, Bill comes down the hallway, I'm not making this up. Cut sweatshirt, hoodie on, looks like he's been in his office for three days, his car hadn't moved, like,
Starting point is 00:41:06 people are like, freaked out, you know what I mean? So, I didn't know what to do. I walked down there and I'm like, hey, Bearish, you can't get to Bill without going through Bearish. But if you make that right into that office, you better have a damn good reason to go in there. And I had a damn good reason that day, Coach,
Starting point is 00:41:24 because I can't drop all this weight how you get trying to get me to drop it let me show y'all how much he cared I walked in I said coach is he's at his death he's at his desk he's sitting at his desk behind his decks I said coach could come in and sit down he said yeah Red come on in sit down okay did he say you were coming or is he blindsided he was blindsided okay he's blindsided Bears let me in you know Bears check said you know Stevens here to talk to you did you tell Bears why you were coming or was he blindsided? He was blindsided. Okay. He was blindsided. Bears let me in, you know, Bears check said, you know, Steven's here to talk to you. Did you tell Bears why you were talking to him?
Starting point is 00:41:49 I can't really remember those details, but I definitely did. What did Bear, did Jason, did he just go, sure. Bears looked at me, I guess I walked in, I was like, Bears, is Coach available? And he kind of looked up. And I was like, I just need to talk to him real quick. I guess nothing. So Bill's sent you down. And when I walk in there, Bill's sitting behind his desk, and he's like, come just need to talk to him real quick. So Bill's sits you down.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And when I walk in there, Bill's sitting behind his desk and he's like, come on in and sit down. So I walked in and sat down. He's like, what you got, Rih? So coach, I need to talk to you about this weight. I was like, I just weighed in, you know, and coach Nash told me at the weight that you have told him that you want me to play at,
Starting point is 00:42:24 and I'm just making sure this is the right weight. And this is not a mistake. Like, and he said, what's the number? I can't really remember what I had. And I said, well, the number is you could have gone right there. You if if you wanted to make the decision, you could have said to 25 because if you if he didn't remember the weight, maybe he would have agreed at 225. All right, you messed up, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I should have had a better negotiation tactic as to what Jules said, but I'm just in there trying not to die and starve myself out at this rate. So I go in and I say, well, coach, this weight that you want me at, I said, coach Nash said you want me at 220. And I said, that's impossible. So I'm just telling you right now, I don't know what it is. And I said, I don't know how you want me at 220? And I said, that's impossible. So I'm just telling you right now,
Starting point is 00:43:06 I don't know what it is. And I said, I don't know how you want me to get there. I said, I'll bust my ass and do whatever, but I'm like 220. I said, can I just tell you a little bit about me? And like, like he doesn't already know you drafted me. The Patriots investigate everybody. They know everything about you before
Starting point is 00:43:20 they even get you in the building. So I said, coach. What did he say when can I tell you about me? I said, can I tell you about me? And he was like, sure. You know, he's just dry. You know, he's not gonna do much. I pulled out my driver's license.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And I pulled out my driver's license. It's a true story. I pulled out my driver's license. I said, coach. Coach C, look at, look, 240. I just want to show you this. I said, coach, and I promise it's a true story. I said, I just want to tell you,
Starting point is 00:43:46 if you could look at my driver's license, I slid it on his desk. I'm bold as a rookie. He's like, who's this clown? You know what I mean? I said, these numbers that are on my driver's license from when I got my permit in high school before I even got a driver's license, my permit,
Starting point is 00:44:04 and on my permit at 15 and a half years old, I was 5'11", 220 pounds. That's how much I weighed in high school. So I said, coach, you mean to tell me that you want me to drop from 238 all the way down to 220? And he looked at me and he said, kinda smacked those lips. Well, Red, I mean, really, I think it's only about $563 per pound per day that you're overweight.
Starting point is 00:44:32 So it's really up to you. And I said, what? I'm like, what do you mean? He was like, per pound per day. And he doubled down on it. I was like, I can do quick math, bro. I I'm third round draft pick I ain't got money like that so fat camp I went you know what I mean I'm like screw it coach you know I mean if that's how we're gonna go about it there's nothing I can do. So what's
Starting point is 00:44:57 fat camp entail? So fat camp consisted of me coming in once I had to drop from 238 to my weight when I was 15 years old of 220, it required me changing my diet with our beautiful nutrition Ted first. Ted put me on this strict diet. I had to come in the fat camp which was running before practice so we had to come in and even do our workout what like before practice in the mornings or we come in and even do our workout what? Like before practice, in the mornings, or we had to go and do our workout after practice once we got off the field. I was always an early riser, so I came in early in the morning.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So, fat camp, I was basically in there with all the guys who were overweight that were trying to cut weight. So, I would have to go in every morning, and I'm talking about, it's still dark outside, 5 a.m., and just hit the treadmill and run. And so, that was the first time that I really, I think the structure, and I look back on it,
Starting point is 00:45:46 I'm like that structure and that discipline, it made me a good pro because I legit dropped this weight for the simple fact that I was not gonna give up my money. And let's do the math, if I'm 238 and the weight is 220, let's do that times 563 bucks times 18 per day, like my paychecks are gonna be pretty thin. You know, the Massachusetts state taxes weren't too forgiving, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:10 I don't need to be giving away any extra. 8.3 now, 6.8, it used to be in the end of some new shit. Something crazy. So I got on board with the program, and Coach didn't really like yell at me or nothing like that, but I don't know if I kind of rubbed him the wrong way from jump,
Starting point is 00:46:23 but it was just like one of those deals, it shook me up as a rook. I'm like, how in the hell am I about to drop 20 pounds or 25 pounds and you want me to run between the tackle, bang it out with the Brandon spikes of the worlds and the Gerard males of the world linebackers at 255. Were you, were you, were you better at 220? Quick as a cat. Freaking nasty, dude. Like, once I got to that plan, wait, I'm like, hey, you know, Bill knows what the hell he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Who else was at Fat Camp with you? I think Big Marcus Cannon was in there earlier. Cannon used to cheat the fucking scale. Remember that? One time, Marcus Cannon, he used to have to weigh in all the time, he was always in fat camp. He was in fat bro. He was a big boy though.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Probation all the time. Shoot. And he would go in and he would do it with a towel on, his weight, and then he'd have a pencil right like here so he could leverage himself up. Lean. Huh? Lean on it? Yes, he could lean on it could leverage himself up. Lean. Huh? Lean on it?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yes, he could lean on it and lift it up and he would fucking make it, they caught him like three times. Cannon used to have to, he was in fat camp like his whole career. It's a grind bro because people don't really realize, it's like man, once coach sets this, you know coach had to start coaching.
Starting point is 00:47:44 It never goes up either. No, that is your weight. So my four years in New England, I played at 220, but bro, I never was like a top end guy. I never had like breakaway speed, so I always prided myself on living by five yards a carry. Like if I get five yards every time I touch this pill that's halfway to a first down,
Starting point is 00:48:01 I can bang it out with whoever. DB, safeties, I used to hit those motherfuckers like speed bumps, bro, like I wasn't even worried about, I was just downhill with it, but once you got to the league and you had to lose that weight, you know, you became more of a pro, you know what I mean? So Bill went back and after we didn't get the negotiation the first time, I think it was about halfway
Starting point is 00:48:19 through the season, I'm like, coach, can I get a couple pounds, give me a little bit here or there, he still didn't lighten up, but it I'm like, Coach, can I get a couple pounds? Give me a little bit here or there. He still didn't lighten up. But it was just like, I learned to respect that, bro, don't question, just do. You know what I mean? Because it made me a hell of a running back. It really did.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And I would have never been there, I never even thought about playing that light because I didn't think I had the pop behind my pads to be a first and second down back and a short yardage back like I was. But I was wrong. I can say that. He's probably at that point in his career
Starting point is 00:48:48 seen about a thousand of you. Yes, yes, and that was the weight that he wanted to make. He's seen the Herschel, he's seen them all. Seen them all, bro, so he wasn't worried about what I thought, you know. Shut up, Red and get on the field. We had to bleep a story from Behrs that he didn't want out there.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Can you talk about this story that I think you, the gun story? What did we call this story? I'm a murderer story. Okay. This is how this goes down there. As y'all can see on my hat, man, I'm a hunter, dude. Through and through. Much as I love ball, I love killing greenheads.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Your Instagram is a dead duck museum. It is a dead duck museum. Shout out 247 Hunt. That's my guys, man. I found my family outside of my football family with my homies. I gotta you love the Second Amendment. I gotta have it. I gotta have it. Like I am a patriot to the heart. What do you mean? My Second Amendment right? So give me my guns. Give me my suppressors. Give me my thermals. I love to hunt hogs at night. I
Starting point is 00:50:03 love to shoot green heads in the swamp. It's just what we do. You know what I mean? I'm from Mississippi, born on the Mississippi River and there's nothing to do out there but hunt, fish, play ball, race some cars, race some bikes, do some stuff that's gonna be fun because there is no city.
Starting point is 00:50:18 We're in the sticks, so you gotta have it. But going back to this story, my other best friend, Moose is my road dog, my other roommate in college, his name is Jared Ely, and he's from my hometown. And his uncle is a Zydeco legend. Zydeco music is a music that is played in the South. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know the exact details,
Starting point is 00:50:40 but it's just kind of a mix of country. Creole, African American style music, rhythm and blues. Love this guy, because you're looking out for me. But Zydeco is very rich in the rodeo community of the South. And so my buddy's family, my first four years in the league, I think they had this Zydeco festival going on in our hometown.
Starting point is 00:51:07 And so when Zydeco would come around, bro, you would have lines down the hallway of people bringing in their horse trailers, bringing in their buggies, they had a drag strip set up, they had a rodeo ring, and Rid was the big dog coming back to the hometown. I'm rolling in with freaking all the quads on the trailer, big lifted trucks, you know, I'm coming in,
Starting point is 00:51:25 the homies are stepping out. Somebody told me the other day, they said, man, really, I'll never forget when you pulled up to Zydeco, you had about eight bikes on the trailer, and I'm just wondering, where the fuck are all the riders at? Like, I have more toys than just shit, because I was a country kid that had made it. What else do you expect from somebody from the South?
Starting point is 00:51:44 So, we- How somebody from the South? How lifted was the truck? Oh bro, we're up there. We're probably eight or ten inches riding on 40s, 24s on 40s. I'm gonna say this, I was the first person, you're gonna make me tap into my roots bro, but I was the first person to drop a Dodge Cummins engine in a Ford F-250 and then put an Allison transmission in the power train. That's when you know your country. So I'm throwing Dodge into Ford and Ford into Dodge. Mixed all three of them,
Starting point is 00:52:10 I got the best of both worlds, of all three worlds. But back to the I'm a murderer story. We pull up to Zydeco and we pulled up to Zydeco, like I say, it's a bunch of country folks, rodeoing, riding bikes. What else do y'all think is out there? Guns, of course. So as people are going into the Zydeco,
Starting point is 00:52:28 we've already parked and set up our deal. My buddy got a new pistol. My buddy Jared got a new pistol. He's the one that's running the festival. In his backyard, we're sitting in his backyard, he has some targets set up where he sights in his rifle, sights in his pistols, whatever it is. This is legal?
Starting point is 00:52:44 100% legal. We're out of the city limits. In Mississippi, as long as you're out of the city limits, you can blaze like freaking Yosickity Sam. I mean, it's like whatever you want to do. But we have the targets set up. And of course, Moose is filming and catching this because me and my partner are sitting there side by side,
Starting point is 00:53:01 earmuffs on, shooting the targets. And I put a Rick Ross song, because I've been playing with the social media way too long, long enough to get me in trouble, but I put a Rick Ross song behind the black coffins. And the name of the song was 100 Black Coffins. And it's by Rick Ross, and I put it in black and white. So it was like in this slow mo,
Starting point is 00:53:20 and you just see me and my buddy up here shooting these targets, and I literally just unloaded. Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. And probably missed a target every time, but I caught the video and I posted it on my social media. No big deal, until Bears rings my damn phone. And I'm like, this has never happened before, and why is he calling me?
Starting point is 00:53:44 So Bears calls me and says. You have him saved in the phone or is it just random? Bears Nigerian, I don't know if I pronounced that the right way, Bill's secretary. Is whatever was in my phone, it's still in there right now. So when I saw this name come across my phone, my heart just hit my stomach and I'm like, this ain't good. How long after the post?
Starting point is 00:54:07 30 minutes. It was like no time. Like I said, hey, the page got like the FBI, bro. They don't miss nothing, okay? So he called me and I answered the phone, I'm like, hello? He said, Ridd. I said, what's up, Beers? He says, Coach wants to speak with you.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Like, all right. So I sat on the phone, Bill gets on the phone, and I guess he hops on, I was like, hello? And Coach says, Ridd. I say, I'm gonna have to edit this, because my mom's gonna punch me in the face for using this language, but you know, Bill loved them F-bombs. Coach goes, Red, just what the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:54:50 And I'm like, what you mean coach? The freaking post that you just put up there really think about it man. You're unloading a freaking pistol on a video on your socials. I mean we just had a guy arrested give me a fucking break. I said damn Coach like I wasn't even thinking about it that way you know I'm just back home chilling with the boys shooting targets better yet just don't even bring your ass back up here. I was like, whoa, did I just get cut? Like, how does this go down? So I looked at my boy and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:55:32 oh, I don't know if I got fired or not. Like what's going on? So Bill hung up the phone or we kind of had some choice words. No, before he hung up the phone, we're gonna cut this part, but I got to continue the story. So y'all just choose if y'all wanna say it or not. But when he told me, he's like, just don't even bring your ass back up here.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I'm like, oh wow. So automatically I went into, coach, I have the utmost respect for you. I did not know that I had messed up that bad. I said, there's targets in the background. We weren't doing anything wrong. I said, you're comparing me to a murderer because I'm shooting targets in the background. We weren't doing anything wrong. I said, you're comparing me to a murderer because I'm shooting targets in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:56:08 I said, but either way, I hear you. I will not be back there. And I'm gonna let you know this. My faith is in God and upstairs. I said, this is not the end of my career. If I am cut, I hung up the phone. It was probably a dumb move to do that. But-
Starting point is 00:56:22 You hung up on Bill Belichick. I hung up, bro, because I was blown away. You just called me a freaking murderer because I'm shooting at targets in the backyard. This is what we do on a regular, bro. This is life. So I hung up and probably wasn't the smartest thing to do. And within, I would say, 30 to an hour,
Starting point is 00:56:42 I got another phone call and it was Bill. And he says, you know what, better yet, when you come here, do not even stop at my office. He says, you go straight upstairs and see Robert. I'm like, Robert, Robert, Mr. Krabs? I'm like, oh my God, bro. Like I'm like, I don't know, I don't know what, like I don't know how this goes,
Starting point is 00:57:05 because Bill, whether y'all know it or not, Bill moves the needle on everything around there. He's making all the calls. So him to push me to the big dog, I'm like, bro, I'll just stay in Mississippi. Hey, bro, I'll take the first option. How about that? Let me just stay right here where you told me to stay.
Starting point is 00:57:21 So, man, I called Moose. I'm like, Moose, bro, let me, I said, guess what? So I told him, Moose was like, I told you not to post that video, re-duh-duh-duh-duh, I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm like, either way, he told me don't even come back, and then he told me to go see Mr. Kraft. Like, bro, what the hell am I gonna do?
Starting point is 00:57:38 Like, I don't know what's gonna go down. So, few weeks went by, we had to come on in for camp and stuff, and I showed up on the first day and I did like Coach said, it's simple instructions. I just took my ass on up the stairs. Where's Mr. Craft's office? Scared to death, man. Heart beating, I didn't know what to expect
Starting point is 00:57:57 so I walk on in and I'm on eggshells and first time going to Mr. Craft's office, he's got like all this patron memorabilia, paper stacked up here on the desk, and he's like the most soft-spoken nice guy ever. And I'm like, am I about to see his dark side? Like what is, what is this, what's gonna happen? So I'm walking.
Starting point is 00:58:16 So you sit down and Mr. Craft's at the desk. Bro, I come in, I'm sitting on the desk, bro, and I'm sweating. Does he like, when you come in, does someone tell him that you're coming in? Mr. Kraft, Steven's here. I don't remember that part. Did he, did he have glasses on and raise his head up to you
Starting point is 00:58:35 and pull his glasses down a little? No, no, no, no, no, no. He met me at the door, and I kind of remember that slow motion walk in there. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if this is gonna be my last walk in Patriot Stadium. Is this going to be like a little talk?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Am I going to be suspended? But I'm just walking in there and the whole time my back's to him, I'm like, I don't even know what I'm going to say. Like, so I'm just coming in, I don't even know where to sit. So he walks around his desk, he's like, come on in. Take a seat.
Starting point is 00:59:00 You know, super nice. And I just sit down and I'm like, how are you Mr. Graff? He was like, I'm okay, I'm okay, how are you? And I'm like, in trouble. Obviously, I done messed up. He was like, look, and he kind of looked at me, and he looked over at the door, and he got up again, and went over and made sure the door was closed.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And I'm like, oh shit. I'm just like literally sliding down in my seat. I'm like, bro, you blew it. You straight up blew it. He says, look, Stephen, we love you here. Said you're a great patriot. Says you're a good kid. He was like, sometimes Bill can be a little bit harsh.
Starting point is 00:59:45 And my heart just starts like, hell yeah. sometimes Bill can be a little bit harsh. And my heart just starts like, hell yeah. That's me. Yeah. Bill can be a little bit hard. I'm like, yeah. And I'm not saying too much, but in my mind I'm like, yeah he can be, but I'm not trying to piss him off or step on their toes.
Starting point is 00:59:58 And he's like, let me tell you a little story. Like story time, cool. So at least I'm not, pack up your shit and get out of here. Like I at least, I'm holding on. So he was like, I'm gonna tell you about a time that my family was born and raised in the Northeast, but I had a daughter, I can't remember exactly what he said, y'all, because I was scared out of my mind.
Starting point is 01:00:21 He's like, I had a daughter that was dating a guy or either married a guy from the South. And he said, it was the, because I was scared out of my mind, he said, I had a daughter that was dating a guy or either married a guy from the South. And he said, it was the wildest thing to me. And he's just talking so slow. And I'm like, get to the point. Am I cut? Am I fired? Am I saved? Like, what's, well, I had this daughter and, you know, I went down to visit her significant other's family
Starting point is 01:00:41 and we went to church together. After church, Everybody left church and came back to the house and they cooked food and they're hanging out just like country folks do. Like that's what we do. Every Sunday it's like you're going to the Lord's house first, you're gonna eat some good grub and you're gonna spend time with the family. And this was his first time I guess to Texas. So he was saying how he got there, they went to church, they ate food, and he said the next thing I know, he says, I look up and I see the little kids on the back porch
Starting point is 01:01:09 and he says, Stephen they all have guns. It blew my mind to see these little kids actually doing what they were doing. Comfortable with firearms, they weren't hurting anybody, but he was like, it's just the difference of the culture. I'm like, preach Mr. Craft, yes. He's like, so Bill might not necessarily understand what's going on and where you're from, but you have to be aware of the time and the pressure that the team is under.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And he's like, I think that's what Bill was trying to tell you. And I said, maybe so. I hope so. I'm not cut. I'm not fired yet. So he said, well, here's what I'm going to tell you. You make sure when you go back down there, you go see coach, because he told you to come straight and see me, right? And I said, yes, sir. And I said, that's exactly what I did. He says, you make sure you go right back to coach and tell him that I got on you hard.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I was like, what? I got the pass, I'm good. He's like, tell him I got on you hard. And he said, this is between us. He was like, I know you didn't mean bad, but he was like, the team is really under a microscope right now. And he broke it down like that grandpa, you know you didn't mean bad, but he was like, the team is really under a microscope right now. And he broke it down like that grandpa,
Starting point is 01:02:28 you know what I mean? And just kind of comforted me because I did, I messed up, you know what I mean? Like we had the team and everything that was going on with Chico, it's like we had this negative light on us. And me being young and dumb, I'm out there shooting guns in the backyard
Starting point is 01:02:44 and an older Steven Ridley now looking back, I'm like, like Jules Stadler, like how dumb can you really be? You know what I mean? Like it's just, but with age comes maturity. You know what I'm saying? And so when I look at it, I was like, oh shit. You know, like I really did almost messed it all up.
Starting point is 01:03:02 So when I went back to Bill, I went back to coach and said, coach, apologize first. I walked in there again, I'm sorry. Didn't mean to do anything. I just went up there and talked to Mr. Kraff. He gave me his two sits. I understand where y'all are coming from. Whatever my punishment is, it's my punishment.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Conduct detrimental. Big fine, you know what I mean? Like, thing was probably what, like 16, 17? It's a game check. Something like that, you know what I mean? It, I think it was probably what, like 16, 17? Something like that, you know what I mean? It was a chunk. It's a game check. And, you know, Bill hit me with it. You know, it wasn't gonna be a free off,
Starting point is 01:03:32 but to this day, Bill doesn't know the words that we exchanged in that office. But Mr. Craft really just put it in perspective for me to help me realize, without the F-bombs, without telling me never to come back to Foxboro. So it was just to have that dynamic that I kind of found some middle ground between the two and I was somewhat safe.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I am forever thankful for, for Mr. Kraft and the organization because he's, he's the man for that, truly. Mr. I've had one of those conversations with Kraft as well. Scary. But like you said, his wisdom pours out and he doesn't, he doesn't, it's not, he's not there to punish you,
Starting point is 01:04:13 he's there to fix a problem and help you get through it. Yes, yes. That's what I felt. Yes. And that's, it sounds like what, he made you feel comfortable, he tried to recognize a problem, and then, you know, it's a what he made you feel comfortable. Yes. He tried to recognize a problem
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yes, and then you know, it's a good good good way of going about it I mean there's good cop bad cop but on a serious question before the video got taken down How many likes did it have and it was booming? It was freaking booming like I'm gonna lie cuz hey, you know social media has come a long way but like it's funny now because bro, I look up and media's come a long way, but it's funny now because, bro, I look up and Bill's got a Instagram and Facebook and Tom's got one, bro, they were not even thinking about this shit back in the day.
Starting point is 01:04:55 It was like a curse. So I really, I was playing on the gram, Jules was playing on the gram a little bit. We were all kind of doing our things, the young guys were, but for them, that was like the enemy. Because Bill's typical saying that he told everybody when you come in, put everything in a drawer. We don't give the media nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:16 You know what I mean? We put all of our problems, put all your bullshit aside. It's about the Patriot organizations, about football. We don't care if you got deals off the field. We don't care what you're trying to promote. Hey bro, if it ain't football and this silver helmet, I'm not concerned with it. So it's just crazy to see him now
Starting point is 01:05:32 cause I see him on TV. He's gotta evolve. He's gotta evolve. And he evolved, but I think I was just a little bit too early, bro, I was too early. I was causing problems for myself and didn't even realize it, but I got it that day. I definitely got it that day that I messed up.
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Starting point is 01:09:04 support your kids and their emotional wellbeing at soundedouttogether.org. That's soundedouttogether.org. Brought to you by the Ad Council and Pivotal. Let's go back to December 10th, 2012, and hit the pop culture around the game time. Number one movie was The Hobbit. Do you ever see that?
Starting point is 01:09:26 Parts. It's too long. Too long. You're a big Hobbit guy, Kyler, right? Why, just because I look like the dwarf? No, you like that kind of stuff. I like Lord of the Rings movies. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I didn't like The Hobbit movie. I shot it in 48. Well, it's the same. I know you read the books. No, I didn't. I don't read. I give the illusion that I read, but I don't actually read. Well, the number one song, I know you read the books. No, I didn't I don't read. Oh, that's a soft I give the illusion that I read but I don't actually read well the number one song diamonds by Rihanna We all remember that I'm bright like a diamond. That was a banger. That was a banger
Starting point is 01:09:53 Is that the Gangman style? Yeah, my daughter still loves that. That's a banger stew the gangman style We're playing a stadium. They used to go PSY. PSY I think. PSY by PSY, I think. PSY. 5.4 billion views on YouTube right now. Back in the gap, or no, today. Today. Oh wow. Yeah, wow.
Starting point is 01:10:11 I think it's the most viewed video on YouTube all time. Wow. Silver Linings Playbook, really good movie. Oh no, no, no. Bradley Cooper was all over the Super Bowl. He was at the Super Bowl. Did you get a Philly cheesesteak from him? I went to Angelo's in Philly,
Starting point is 01:10:24 which I think he bases his cheesesteak off of. Okay. Spectacular. I think it's called, what is it? The Sharp Cheddar, or Sharp Cooper cheese. That's the cheese to have. You had a real Philly cheese? I haven't. I haven't. It's fire.
Starting point is 01:10:38 We always made up to Philly, I think, for like pre-season. You know what I mean? So I haven't been back just hanging out. Were you there when Nico Koudavides took us to the Greek restaurant in Philly? Uh-uh, uh-uh, but Koudi knew every spot and everybody. Anywhere, Nico would look for a fucking, we'd go find one Greek restaurant
Starting point is 01:10:55 and we'd be eating Greek food. Super Bowl champion in 2012, the Baltimore Ravens. Damn. Man. Damn. Natty,s. Damn. Damn. Natty, Alabama. Ooh. So you hate Alabama? To my heart, bro.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I do not rock with the Crimson and White at all. I just, I put up with Hightower. You know what I mean? But he knows what it is right now to this day. What's the hate hierarchy for SEC teams from LSU? Alabama's number one. Alabama's one. Alabama is that robbery.
Starting point is 01:11:28 You know what I mean? Would they say the same about you? They got to. What, Auburn? Auburn. Come on, Cam Newton's the best thing to come out of there smoking, dude. He was a problem.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Speaking from our day, it was always LSU-Bama. You know what I mean? And whoever won that game. So that was a hate. I would say Bama, number one. Number two would be, I would say Ole Miss. Just because it was close, but that was always a hard fought game.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Ole Miss always played up. Even if they might not have a shot to do anything in the conference or whatever, but they were always going to play us hard. You know who would have ran all over you? Who? At Oak from Oklahoma. the MVP of this year in the national football league.
Starting point is 01:12:08 MVP, dude. Adrian Peterson would have ran all over LSU. He is the GOAT. That was one of my favorite running backs. He was a monster. He was MVP. This is the last time, I think, a non, this is the last non-quarterback MVP this year.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Iceman Trophy winner winner Johnny Menzel. Johnny Johnny football, Johnny football, Johnny Cash. How do you want to go about it? What was life like for written 2012 2012 2012? 2012 was my big year, I think, wasn't it? Yeah, I think that was my second year in the league. I want to say I ended up I I was top five back that year. You know, and that's when I kind of.
Starting point is 01:12:47 1263 yards, 12 touchdowns. We're going crazy. Not bad. 1263, 12. We're going crazy, bro. You know, it was one of those deals that I kind of, your rookie year is your rookie year, but that second year when I started getting some real
Starting point is 01:13:02 touches and I felt like I was actually having an impact and they're putting the ball in your hands and you know you're gonna get get that love it was one of those times where I just kind of the light bulb went off in my head I had the best quarterback to ever play the game we got some receivers out here who have a route tree and Tom will just turn off one side of the field if he likes one look over there so like it right registered with me then, nobody gave a shit about me being in the backfield. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:13:30 Like they really didn't. Versus me coming from LSU where we're two tight ends, we're a full back, everybody in the stadium knows we're about to do what? Run the football. So like 2012 was that year for me that it all kind of clicked and I realized that teams are scouting Tom Brady and our receivers for good cause,
Starting point is 01:13:46 because Tom would light your ass up. So it was like, if I could do anything in the run game, it was enough, you know what I mean? But we had a hell of a run game. The big boys up front, I think, had been together for a little while, because that's when Matt Light was there, my rookie year. And he retired.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And he retired. In the shower in the Super Bowl. Right next to me. Naked. So I think that year in 2012, you know, Big Mank, like that was one of my favorite people ever, Logan Mankins. Cause Big Mank was like a road grader up front, man. We had O-line that was just mean, Cannon was young.
Starting point is 01:14:22 It was Ryan Windell. Wendy. We had Wendy up there. Had Dan Conley up there. Nate Solder. Solder, young Solder. Yep, so me and Nate came in together, but 2012 was the year that Kid Rigg kinda got going in the league, man,
Starting point is 01:14:38 and I knew that I was actually somebody. So that was a big time for me, man. When did you feel like you could stick in the NFL? I'd have to say after 2012 2012 after 2012 man. I really say That's when I said that I really was a problem, you know Because I knew that we weren't really not gonna say we didn't work on it But I say Tom was we threw the ball, you know what I mean? We were past offense so to just come in there and have that kind of success that year and have somewhat of a balanced offense,
Starting point is 01:15:08 man, I was just so forced to be a part of it just to be able to be in the same backfield with 12. You know what I mean? And for him to take the ball out of his hands when he can single-handedly change a game or run a game and hand it off, man, that's a lot. So I used to mess with Tom and tell him, man, like hey, on the goal line,
Starting point is 01:15:24 remember he was quarterback sneak down there? I'm like, you're a $200 million man, like hey, on the goal line, he would quarterback sneak down there. I'm like, you're a $200 million man, just hand it back here, let me go ahead and stick that thing in there. Tom didn't care, he's a competitor, bro. I just thought, is Logan Mankins in the Hall of Fame? He should be. He's not in the Hall of Fame, he should be, right?
Starting point is 01:15:38 He should be, there's no question. He was probably the best lineman I played with. He was a dog, man. Loge was, Wrangler boots, Platt shirt. He should be in Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame's got some problems I gotta work through. Vin and Terry not getting in.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Luke Keighley, come on, what are we doing here? Keighley didn't play that long though. Yeah, but he had a high peak. And making Antonio Gates wait a way to year to nothing first ballot They got some stuff to put Erlacher went to a Super Bowl Did Keakley with a cam? Yeah? Yeah The same they're like the same Erlacher Keakley are in that same world bracket
Starting point is 01:16:21 Yeah, a lot of all pros to from Keakley. He shouldley should be in. I would think King was a hell of a player. He was really good. Fast. Side line to side line, dude. Like every tackle. Smart. Yes. Tampa too, he could play, he could cover you a little. Remember him dropping back in the middle.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I just remember watching that defense, we watched film on King, he'd be like 30 yards back in no time off the snap and coming down smacking folks. So yeah, he was a baller, but. What was on your, what was, you have an eclectic taste of music. What was the pregame mix for Kid Ridd in 2012?
Starting point is 01:16:52 What was the pregame mix? Kid Ridd. Kid Ridd was like the young kid in the locker room with like the loud freaking price speakers. He dyed his hair a certain color. He'd come in with like a diamond backpack on that he bought in London. Like what was on the pregame list?
Starting point is 01:17:11 How you gonna leave out the jumpsuits and the onesies, bro? Jumpsuits, onesies. And the moon boots? Come on, man, gimme these. You hear him from three miles away when he rolls up because he's got the craziest exhaust system on his car. What is in the earphones before the game to get Kid Rigg going?
Starting point is 01:17:26 I brought Louisiana to Foxboro, bro. We were banging nothing but Boosie. We were banging that Webby, Big Timers, Future. I would say back then, Future was hot, bro. He's brand new. He was dropping hits, so he was doing- He's brand new this time. We did a, me and Future was hot, bro. He's brand new. He was dropping hits, so he was doing- He's brand new this time. Me and Future did a,
Starting point is 01:17:49 we did a Zegna event together. A what? Zegna is a suit company. How was he in person? I never met him, bro. We didn't talk that much. We just got, we just lost in the AFC Championship. It was for a Super Bowl event for Zenia, I think,
Starting point is 01:18:06 or it could have been Fashion Week. And he was there. Well, dude, that was kind of what it was for me. It was like, you know, I brought that Southern flair to the locker room. You know what I mean? Like, we believe coming out of LSU, man, it was like, you look good, you play good,
Starting point is 01:18:22 you gotta be swagged out. You know what I mean? You gotta have some good tunes and have the energy going. So I used to pull up to game day in the Hummer, you know what I mean? Subs going, beating the block down, holler at my people at the game, oh, what's up?
Starting point is 01:18:34 And it was just always good. Gary's doing a donut in there for the crowd. Hey, that's another story too, man. Hey, remember when we had the big snow, you don't remember, so we had the big snowstorm. Yeah, we were all just ripping donuts in the parking lot. We went to the parking lot and I cracked. I had the big snow, you don't remember this, we had the big snow storm. Yeah, we were all just ripping donuts in the parking lot. We were ripping donuts in the parking lot.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I do that every snow. It crashed in the Market's Canyon. Did you? Before the game. Before the game, we were out there just going nuts. Before a game? I do it on a Friday when there's no one in there. I think it was like, I want to say it was before the game
Starting point is 01:19:02 because we had the snow storm, we were taking those back roads, where you go through Foxboro, you had the little houses and everybody was like before, I want to say it was before the game because we had the snowstorm we're taking those back roads, you know, where you go through Foxboro, you know, you had the little houses and everybody was like, lived next to each other. So it's like a caravan. All the boys were taking the back roads to get to the stadium. So I see this parking lot that hadn't been hit, no tread, no track in there. I'm like, fresh powder, whip a right right there in the Hummer. And there I go, I'm smashing on it. Doing donuts out there. And the funny thing is I remember it clear as day. Wes Welker's house in the backyard. And Cannon, I'm doing donuts out there.
Starting point is 01:19:32 And all of a sudden you see Marcus Cannon come over the hill. And his Toyota Tundra ramps over the hill. And he's got pipes on his. And he's like, ah! And we're spinning out there and hitting it. Just having a blast. Until of course we lose control. And I hit Cannon and there and hitting it, just having a blast until of course we lose control. And I hit Cannon and boom, smack it.
Starting point is 01:19:49 And when I smacked it, I looked over and I swear, you see the blinds slide open like this. And Wes stuck his head out there and he's like, oh y'all fucking idiots. And he just closed the blinds and went on by his business. Cause I really want to say it was either like before game or after game, but I remember seeing Wes with the big old blue eyes.
Starting point is 01:20:08 You know what I'm saying? Like he's looking out the blinds. It's like, man, who is, I didn't know if it was a neighborhood of West. Like, oh y'all are fucking idiots, dude. It was funny, but hey, we're having a good time. But that was, that was our Foxboro days. So basically that story just told me
Starting point is 01:20:24 that when Bill tells us before training camp, don't drive like a fucking idiot in Foxboro, he was talking to you? He was talking about me. Okay. He was talking about me. He was, he was. Hey, and speaking of the driving,
Starting point is 01:20:37 I mean, are we gonna bring up the riding days or what, man? Yeah, we used to, when we used to ride, dude, Kid Ritt had side-by-sides. The toys. Quads, all the toys, and he lived, where do you live in? Mansfield. North Attivoro. North Attivoro and then moved to Mansfield.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Mansfield, where we drive on the telephone. Power lines. The power lines, they had like a track that would go for miles. Awesome. I remember going out one time with Ridd and this guy's ripping these things like 90 miles an hour. Like it's a doom buggy getting like 40 feet of air
Starting point is 01:21:10 on these fucking. The banshees bro. I'm like, what are we doing? We got OTAs tomorrow. I'm over here on a little dirt bike. I'm like, ah, I'm a chuck dude. I'll see you later, bro. I drove back.
Starting point is 01:21:24 No, you and Dolomite. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was like, I had the boys, I'll see you later, bro. I drove back. No, you and Dolomite. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was like, I had the boys, I had talked, I talked grunk in the bind, a side by side, and a player scrambler. And I talked Dolomite and Jules into getting these pit bikes, which you still have now.
Starting point is 01:21:40 We still have them. And so I pulled up on Jules, what, six, seven months ago, I'm like, bro, the pit bikes are still alive? He's like, yeah, bro, I got them cranked it up and we're riding down the road here. But those were the days. Oh, they're done now, by the way. What was that, 14 years later?
Starting point is 01:21:53 Thank God, no, yeah, but thank God. They were driving. I went and I was driving the thing and the sprocket. These things are made in China, so they are as cheap as they come. And I've had to try to, I've tried to get them fixed at like 10 different dirt bike shops. So like, yeah, bro, we're not working on that.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, nah, dude, we don't know what the fuck that is or what is that thing? And so I've been like jerry-rigging this thing and trying to like get it right. And I'm driving and thank God I was going slow at the time, but then the sprocket broke and it locked on me. I was thinking, what if I was going like 50 miles an hour,
Starting point is 01:22:31 which 10 seconds before I was. On the pavement. On the pavement, no helmet. Over, over. It would have been dead. And then from that day on. No games with names. No games with names.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Let's jump into this game. Okay, so let's get into the 2012 Houston Texans. The record was 12 and four, head coach Gary Kubiak. Same staff. This is the same coaching staff that went to Denver and won a Super Bowl. Oh wow. Yeah, offensive coordinator Wade Phillips
Starting point is 01:22:57 and offensive coordinator Rick Denison. They traded Demarco Ryan's, or D'Amico Ryan's, excuse me. Head coach. To Philadelphia. Some dudes on this team matchup is the quarterback Arion Foster running back So Andre Johnson's on this team Owen Daniels JJ watt rookie season for Whitney Marcellus They started out real hot Levin and Levin and one until you know the game we're talking about here. What do you remember about this Houston team? Oh
Starting point is 01:23:24 the letterman jacket, you know, I mean that're talking about here. What do you remember about this Houston team? The Letterman jacket. You know what I mean? That's about it. And I do remember we pretty much had our way with them. I remember this week in the game plan, anytime we were to play these guys, especially this year and the next couple of years, the number one thing was we had to block JJ Watt.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Yes. That was everything. Or not even that. You remember Coach just made a straight call Gucci or Coach McDaniels. Wherever JJ Watt was lining up, it was just an automatic check. We were going the opposite way.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Like we just weren't even gonna deal with him. So I do remember now what you say about that game, coming out in pregame, that was my first time. This was what, 2012? Yeah. So it's my second year in the league, okay? Let's give this dude his flowers too. I remember coming out there for pregame.
Starting point is 01:24:07 I'm always juice stuff, I didn't really care. Like I say, SC mindset, killer be killed, we're out here. I looked at this dude, JJ Watt. And when I tell you a freak, man, this dude looked like a G.I. Joe doll out of a freaking, what is the toy store? I'm serious, man. Like he had these big arms that are like bolted
Starting point is 01:24:30 on the side of him and he's got the shirt cut off and he's running across field for the warm up. He's a monster, bro. A grown ass man, bro. You gotta give it to him. But he was just long and lanky, but I saw, of course our coaches are a dummy, but it's like, we're going away from this guy.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And when I saw him pregame, I'm like, you damn right we're going away from this guy. Because I don't think it's gonna be too much going on in there, and he really was that problem. Like he was a problem that year, but he's unblockable. I almost feel like he was like a Kaleus Campbell, you know, like one of those dominant forces inside. He was sick, but he was a different
Starting point is 01:25:06 level for sure. So this was a JJ Watt, one defensive player of the year this year. Also the sack time, he had 20 and a half sacks, 39 tackle for losses, four forced fumbles, and 60 pass breakups. Jesus, was that when Cushing was down there too? Yeah, he actually missed this game because he got hurt
Starting point is 01:25:23 earlier in the year, but this is peak Brian. They had a good defense They were loaded. Yeah, they were Adrian Foster was fucking Swiftie Foster was smooth. He was so easy. See, you know, he kind of reminds me of like Camara Just not like necessarily how they run but like they were slick like slick They're both slick players were like they're good screen running backs. They're good like toss crack running backs. They can catch the ball to the backfield,
Starting point is 01:25:50 but they can, they dip in and out of the tackles every so often, but when they do, it's impactful. It's a big, it's a big game. You know what I mean? Adrian Foster was like that. Oh yeah. I can't take anything from his game at all. He was a, to me he had the combination of power and speed.
Starting point is 01:26:06 He didn't have to be so physical. Which is what Kamara is. Yes, yes, but I think he was a little bit bigger back, but that was a little bit back in the day. He was one of those guys, if he got in space, it was guaranteed 20 yards minimum. You know what I mean? And so that's really what he did for his career,
Starting point is 01:26:19 but he was nasty in Texas, because everybody in the ballpark, I think knew he was getting the rock, and he was still productive. This year he had 4,400 yards, 15 touchdowns. Do see. Yeah. And then, Andre Johnson was on this team too.
Starting point is 01:26:30 He also had 1,600 yards, four touchdowns. Wait a minute. We got to, do you remember, did we remember, see, I didn't play this game. I broke my foot the week before. I was really wondering, I'm like, how are we going to do a game, Jules? It's all right.
Starting point is 01:26:43 You're not even in the game. This is about you, baby. Hey, I love it, guys. This is about you, baby. See what I'm saying, man? we gonna do a game, Jules? You're not even in the game. This is about you, baby. I love it, guys. It's about you, baby. I'm telling you, man, but we'll get there. But what was the perception of, did we know that they came in with their Leatherman jackets? Was there a talk on the locker room?
Starting point is 01:26:58 Yes. Because if I was in the locker room, and if I was there, I probably would have been like, guys, we gotta beat the fuck out of these dudes. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. This is high school hairy shit. So I can't, look, my memory's really bad. I'm not even gonna make this up. When I say double digit concussions, I've had a few.
Starting point is 01:27:13 But I kinda somewhat remember, it was like a talk, or maybe sports center or something, had said that somebody on the team was getting jackets made or something. Like they were making a big deal about it because they were coming out of H-Town and coming up there to the freaking, to the brick, to the brick, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:27:29 It's what I call bean town. It's brick cold, it's freezing. So I guess it was something going around saying they were gonna hop off the plane with these jackets. And it's like, bro, you're coming up an hour of shit, swaging out, rocking these jackets. Like this is about to be a cake walk. It was disrespectful, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:27:46 So I remember Gucci told me, he was like, Red, when you get in there, he said, I want you to kick that bitch down. Gucci McDaniels. Gucci McDaniels, bro. And so that was the celebration, I used to kick the door down. And I can't remember, was it J.J. Watt, he told me,
Starting point is 01:27:59 Gucci told me this, he was like, when you get in there and score, he was like, cause J.J. used to always hit the salute, remember? So when you go back to it, man, I kicked the door down, and I hit him with the salute, and I was like, when you get in there and score, he was like, cause JJ used to always hit the salute, remember? So when you go back to it, man, I kicked the door down and I hit him with the salute and I was like, ain't none of that going on in here tonight. You know, I was talking, talking my shit, but when the OC gases you up like that
Starting point is 01:28:15 and tells you it's that kind of outing, man, they stepped off with the freaking Letterman jackets. I think it was like 21 to zero before the bus cooled off. It was 21 to zero early in the second quarter. We beat their ass, bro. And it was awesome. I tell you, it was really awesome. There's only one way in and one way out.
Starting point is 01:28:30 You got to take the highway one, right up in the Foxboro. They're going to be hell of traffic. It's going to be cold. You ain't going to hear a fucking R. It is. There ain't going to be any Rs. What we call that Fort Foxboro, bro. It was real.
Starting point is 01:28:44 It was real on the base. So it was just tight to even look back and think, bro, how dominant we really were. Let's get into our team, though, real quick. Go ahead. 2012 New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, offense coordinator Josh McDaniels, defensive coordinator Matt Patricia,
Starting point is 01:28:58 coming off a super loss to the Giants in the four, notable rookies Chandler Jones, Dante Hightower, Nate Ebner. Big draft. Gronk also signed a big contract the year before, a largest tenant contract ever. Had some injury issues this year. This was also the year of the butt fumble was two weeks prior to this game. Then Jules went down the week after.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Some dudes obviously Tom Brady, Stephen Ridley, some great running back room Shane Verene, Danny Woodhead. They know. Had Brandon Lloyd, Slater, Wes Welker's on this team, Dante Stalworth who's dragged out the street for this game. You mentioned some of the linemen, Marcus Cannon, Dan Connolly, Logan Mannequin, Nate Solder, Sebastian Vollmer. Seabass, how'd we forget him earlier?
Starting point is 01:29:38 Seabass. Neeks on this team, Wilforks on this team. This was I think, Devin McCordy's first year as a safety too. Yeah, we put McCordy to safety this team. This was I think the first year as a safety too. Yeah we put McCordy to safety this year. He played a hit for the CB to safety right and then is that when Tlaib got here? That's when we got little Dennard. Yep Alfonso yeah yeah yeah. Marquise Cole. Arrington was playing a lot. Kyle Arrington, yeah. Chung, always. Staple. Nate Ebner. Derrick Martin was one of the funniest individuals. I don't know if I ever talk about him, but he was a funny individual, man.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Shout out, shout out. Deon Branch. Dirty. What's that, Dirty? B-Lloyd was probably one of the best ex-receivers I played with. His routes and his hands. He had like feather soft hands. Yeah. And he was so smooth with his routes and his hands, he had like feather soft hands. Yeah, and he was so smooth with his routes.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Silky, he was silky. And he, like, he had dancer flexibility. Like, that's how he got in and out of his, like, brakes. He looked like the Pink Panther. He'd be like, ooh, choo choo. It was like. You couldn't have drawn, I guess, you could not have drawn up a prettier route by a receiver.
Starting point is 01:30:47 He got smooth hands. And he was effortless. It's like he wasn't even trying to move, but like his form was just so nice. And then it's like he'd come out of stuff. And if the ball was anywhere around, he could bend his body. Just all kind of ways to catch the rock. Like a dancer. Yeah, truly. Like, yeah, he was a, he was a fucking stud. He was, he was. I always try to explain to people about the
Starting point is 01:31:07 running back room. Yeah. Yeah Explain to us how the dynamic of the running back room with Ivan fears at coach coach fears Like how he had to basically like be the teacher for all you knuckleheads. Yeah. Yeah, he did He did coach fears was like pops, you know, I mean coach fears the old head I think he had been with knuckleheads. Yeah, yeah, he did, he did. Coach Fears was like Pops. You know what I mean, Coach Fears was an old head. I think he had been with Bill forever.
Starting point is 01:31:29 And I mean, our running back room was loaded. I mean, let's just go back through it and say what it was. Our leader, I'm going to say, was 3'9", Danny Woodhead. Like, small guy, dynamite. Big things come in small packages. You could throw Danny in any play, line him up at any position and Danny knew it It was effective, but the running back room
Starting point is 01:31:49 He was heading that room when I got there as a rookie it was Ben Jarvis Green Ellis and then once Benny went on in Cincinnati, that's when I kind of stepped into it in 2012 and We started kind of figured out what I was capable of but our room was no doubt led by Danny Woodhead He was the ultimate leader, ultimate teammate, kind of told us how it was coming in. So Coach Fears would always throw it up there. So let me back up again. Brandon Bolden, Ole Miss guy.
Starting point is 01:32:15 BB was a monster, okay? BB did not lift weights. BB just ran all day, never got tired, but little history about BB. BB was from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and went to Ole Miss to play running back. I was from Natchez, Mississippi, and left Mississippi and went to LSU to play running back.
Starting point is 01:32:34 We were a year apart. He wore 34 at Ole Miss, I wore 34 at LSU, and we banged it out for four years in a row. So when we drafted Brandon Bolden, when y'all talk about Lick, bro, I was like, there's no way Bill really just did that. And I looked up and BB's coming in the room and it was like, oh, what's up?
Starting point is 01:32:53 Me and BB like to smoke a little Bud and chill. I'm just gonna say, like that was kinda, that was our deal. We'll get another story going on that one. I don't wanna get us in trouble, but our running back room was super tight. Just talk about the room. Danny was our leader.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Shano was drafted ahead of me. So Bill, the previous year, I guess in 2000, what was that, 2006 is when Bill drafted Gronk and Hernandez in the same draft class. 10. 10. 2010. 2010, sorry. We came in in 2011 and he drafted Shane and me at running back.
Starting point is 01:33:26 So he was going by the twos. And so when we come in, Shane-O is third down back, fast, got wheels. Shane got an open field. You can just go ahead and meet him at the goal line. He just had it. And he was a safety valve out the backfield. He was the exact opposite of me.
Starting point is 01:33:40 So when I look at it, it was like our running back room was so built that we were just, any of us could go. So going back to Coach Fears, I just remember we'd go through the game and it was badass because after you play in New England and I consider myself a journeyman, because I had to bounce around on a few different teams, very rarely did I go to a room that was as loaded as we were on this year.
Starting point is 01:34:04 But Coach Fears really used to just say, hey look, every other series, we're going with a different bat. He didn't care who was in there because we were all that good. And so it was really dope because we had a team concept that we were all unselfish. We all knew that we had one job to do
Starting point is 01:34:17 and that was to get it done as a running back rule and not fumble the football. And that word still, I get chills on my body because that was the biggest issue throughout my career. Bro, I ran hard, but the ball would get out, bro. When I was fighting for the extra yards. But either way, Bill, with no hesitation, you knew what time it was.
Starting point is 01:34:35 You put that ball on the ground, go ahead and sit on the bench, bro. That's a day for you, you know, watch the game. But when you look at this room, it was so stacked that it didn't matter who we had in there. We had great leadership. Coach Fears always kept us like, almost like a school mentality, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Like we were in class. Ah, shut up now, shut up now, shut up. Y'all get it here, so I don't know. You know, and y'all know what Bill said and what we have to do and he's gonna trickle down with everything. So it's like, coach gives his orders. Ivan's gonna come in and coach us up,
Starting point is 01:35:04 make sure we know what we need to do and we can't be embarrassed on the old man you know what I mean like this is one of Bill's guys and Bill trust him and you know I look at and say this man he was one of the few black coaches on the coaching staff so you know we try to go hard for the man and he'd been around for years so when you look at it like that we were a true family you know I mean we hung out a lot off the field, but we were just stacked up, dude, because Shane was a monster out of the backfield, and then even when you handed it to him,
Starting point is 01:35:31 Shane would get loose quick. And there was no drop off between BB and me, and there was no drop off between Danny Woodhead and Shane Vareen. We just had debt for days. Who's most entertaining guy in the locker room? In this locker room, Chica, Aaron Hernandez. I'm going to say that.
Starting point is 01:35:51 I got to give him his flowers, dude. He had a personality that was out of this world, bro. He was funny. He was funny. Crazy, funny. I just always think about him saying, Ayo Bill. Remember how you used to say that? Ayo, Ayo was there about him saying, Ayo Bill, remember how you used to say that? Ayo, Ayo was there, Ayo, Ayo Bill.
Starting point is 01:36:08 And he'd come in and be loud and joking, but he was a baller. And he worked hard. He worked hard. Chico had, when you come to personality, it's like you have that guy that's like super loud, almost obnoxious and annoying, but he's so annoying that you have to laugh at him
Starting point is 01:36:23 because you can't get over him. And he had coach McDaniel's rolling, he had Bill laughing. And then I just remember him and Talib, remember him and Talib used to go at it after practice. And they used to just bet that money. It was like, we'd have our full practice and stuff. But Chico was such a competitor, correct me if I'm wrong, Jules,
Starting point is 01:36:41 but Chico used to go do drills with the receivers. Like this dude was so talented, he had feet and hands of a receiver, but he had the body of a freaking tight end. But he also just loved competition. So Tlaib comes in, and Tlaib's gonna talk his shit. You know what I mean? He's gonna bark and say, he's gonna lock stuff down. I'm gonna lock you down.
Starting point is 01:37:01 And Chico and him would go at it probably two, three days a week after practice. I used to have to do it with him too. Tom would go at it probably two, three days a week after practice. I used to have to do it with him too. Tom would spin it out there, you know, it'd be like practice would be over and you'd look up and Bill's over on the sideline just twirling the whistle watching the show
Starting point is 01:37:13 but they'd be betting money on catching the rock against each other. But Chico leaving Florida, I knew he was a baller down in Florida and then once I got to get up to New England we hung out a little bit and got his personality man. He was the man bro He really was but he was just he kept he kept us laughing at all times. He really did He was funny laughing or you wanting to punch him in the face want to fight him wanted to and he wasn't scared of that either
Starting point is 01:37:37 No Clearly not team asshole. Yes, who is a team asshole team asshole? mmm Team Asshole. Yes. Who is a team asshole? Team Asshole, hmm. I see no names on there, bro. Like who would be the team asshole? Like just to call you, you want me to give it to you? Would you be the team asshole? Am I team asshole? Probably, you know.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Am I team asshole? Am I the team asshole? Always, always, hey, he's gonna be mad at me, but whatever coach said, dude, Jules is gonna do, okay? So Jules was holding the standard. Like when Jules came in, Jules came to work every day. I'll just say that. So kept the fire lit, kept the energy up, win, lose, or draw.
Starting point is 01:38:14 I'd say Jules was pretty vocal on freaking carrying your load. You know what I mean? Like he really did do that, I ain't gonna lie. Over his career, he was just one of those guys that just worked his ass off. So I'd say team ass off. He'd people out, you know and let you know when you're when you're when you're slacking So I'll give you that I'm looking at the right thing if you if you I don't see I was an asshole But I worked hard. Yeah, you did but you can't say anything the guy that's been here three hours before you woke up Truly and already got the workout in, already caught balls on the judge, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:38:46 Like this dude was just... Already, catching edges. I think he was up and grinding more than he was sleeping at that point in his career. And I'm not just saying that because he was here, it was just, he was a scrappy white dude that really had to hold his own and he did that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:39:00 But I think he was a leader enough to call us out, because I don't really see any like, assholes on that list. Like we didn't have it. Tom, I mean Tom was zero bullshit policy, you know what I mean? But he wasn't really a- Best Tom story you have.
Starting point is 01:39:16 12, man. First day, very first day I got there. Coming out of LSU, we believe in stepping in there and trying to go in and make a difference. We ain't scared, we're lining up trying to do it. So I got in there coming out of LSU, we believe in stepping in there and trying to go in and make a difference. We ain't scared, we're lining up trying to do it. So I got in there and got behind 12 for the first time, and Tom turned around and looked at me.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Look forward again, look back. Nah, Rick, get out of here. Kev, come on. And he sat me down before even handing me the first ball, told Kev Falk, come on in here and take the first. A real LSU running back. Real LSU back, a goat, a legend. Gotta give it to him.
Starting point is 01:39:47 But. Hey Feze. He did, he kinda humbled me on that very first day. Did Kev Falk like talk to you about that afterwards or anything? Did he call you after you got drafted to Patriots LSU? Or is there like a coolness? With Kev?
Starting point is 01:40:02 Yeah. For sure, for sure. Kev hit me up, let me know, and then Jarvis Green had left there. Yeah. And so the LSU guys kind of welcomed me in when I got that call. So that would be a good story.
Starting point is 01:40:13 But I got a better 12 story. It's off the field. And cause Tom never went out, kind of never did much. And I remember the first time Tom ever invited me to his crib. I gotta say that. I don't know what year it was, but we had done practice or something,
Starting point is 01:40:28 and Tom was like, Red, Red Dog, and he was going, Red Dog, come here. And I ran over there, I'm like, what's up, bro? He's like, look, I want you to come with me. And I'm like, what? Coach, you where? I'm like, where, when, where I need to be? So he was like, meet me in Boston,
Starting point is 01:40:43 gave me an address, I didn't even know where I was going. Didn't matter, I was going with 12. Quarterback invited me out, so I haul ass up the highway. What was that, 95? Leave, because everybody thinks Patriots, Boston, no. The Patriots are in Foxborough, that's a freaking hour ride from Foxborough, 45 minutes. 45, reverse commute.
Starting point is 01:41:04 To Boston, but Tom gave me his address, ride from Foxborough, 45 minutes. 45. From Foxborough to Boston. But Tom gave me his address. And I remember texting mom and dad. And I'm like, man, Tom just invited me to come over here to go meet him. I didn't know where I was going. I didn't care. So I went on up and drive to Boston.
Starting point is 01:41:16 I don't know if he even remembers this. But I was like, got to his house. He showed me around the crib. I'm like, where are we going, bro? What's the move? He's like, man, just come on the ride with me. So I hopped in the back of the car, and we pull into, we leave his house, go downtown.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Tom's the man, rides through, traffic's everywhere. I'm thinking it's like a Red Sox game or something like that. And as we pull up there, Tom literally pulls up and cracks his window like this much. And didn't even have to say much. They kind of knew who he was and like let us ride on through and then we parked across the street from the stadium.
Starting point is 01:41:50 And I'm like, the stadium's packed out and I'm like, that's not a baseball game going on. What is the deal? We go in there and park and we walk back across the street to the stadium. When we walk in there, it was a concert. So, bring you back to this time, this day and time. Walk in, and we go behind stage,
Starting point is 01:42:12 Justin Timberlake is walking onto the stage. So, I don't know if y'all remember Holy Grail. Yeah. Okay, so they were performing in Fenway Park. Of course, Tom has the plug, and he's inviting me in there. I'm like, bro, I'm the man, you know what I mean? Like, Tom invited their plug and he's inviting me in there. I'm like, bro, I'm the man. You know what I mean? Like Tom invited their running back up there,
Starting point is 01:42:27 Marla with QB1, like I'm with 12, we're going to the stadium and get in there and he hollers at JT, yo, JT, da da da. And they're like homies, I'm like, dog, how tight is that? The story gets better. From there, we go and watch JT go on. I think we might have watched like one song or something like that perform, or maybe it hadn't even started.
Starting point is 01:42:47 And we walked back across to where his car was. So when we walked back across to where his car was, I walk in there and I'm following Tom wherever he goes. And y'all, it was almost like a movie. You know, this figure walks out and it's like, there's nobody in Boston, not really many people in America that are bigger than Tom Brady.
Starting point is 01:43:09 And I'm like, who am I really seeing what I'm seeing? You know who it was. Who? Hove, bro. Jay-Z, I met Jay-Z for the first time with Tom Brady, dog. And I realized how tight they really were. So when I walk up there, I'm shocked. I'm like, bro, pick your jaw up.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Act like you've been somewhere before. You know what I mean? Like get your shit together. You know, I got to at least be cool a little bit, but I'm like, whoa, man, Jay-Z had on these gold chains, bro, I'm talking about stacked up, almost touching his ear, and he comes in and he daps off Tom.
Starting point is 01:43:43 And he was like, and he called me Red. I want to say he called me Red. He said, Red, can I pick you up in fantasy this year? And before I could even say anything, I remember this, Tom touched me and he don't even know. He was like, you're damn right, you can pick him up in fantasy this year. And I'm like, oh, I made it.
Starting point is 01:43:56 I made it, I freaking made it. But I'm in here with freaking Tom and Jay-Z and they're performing the Holy Grail at the concert. And of course, 12 got backstage passes and just rolls in this thing like he's on in the stadium, which he did. And it was like one of those moments that I can say with 12 on the field, we have countless moments
Starting point is 01:44:16 in my four years there that I could talk about. But that was one of those times off the field that I was like, it was super dope to just see because I figured out that him, Jay-Z, I want to say, what you call it was there too, KD was there maybe, Kevin Durant? Maybe. And so I think he was there too,
Starting point is 01:44:35 but it was like one of those times that it was just like, if you knew or you had that in, you were there, and I definitely didn't have that in, I was just rolling with the man. So that was a cool ass story that 12 kind of let me know that I was kind of handling my business a little bit to even be with him off the field and him to take me to that album.
Starting point is 01:44:51 That was bomb. That's insane. Get to meet Hov, JT, JD. Sliding backstage. Fenway. Fenway Park. Jules is just jealous right now. Dappin' on.
Starting point is 01:45:02 I was at that concert. I was there. You wasn't backstage with me. No, I wasn't backstage. I wasn't there. What year was this? 2011? No, not yet. No, he forgot the year.
Starting point is 01:45:12 What do you mean? He didn't even have a first hundred yet. Boss, he's lying. Ridley's lying. No. All right, let's jump into the game. Hold on, before we move on to the game, just as a fan of a New England Patriots,
Starting point is 01:45:21 there's a very clear distinction in the running back. There's a lineage of the early down running backs, the first, second down running backs, and then the pass catcher third down guys. You're kind of a part of that lineage, the Corey Dillons, the Blunts, the you, and then the other side you have the Vereens and the Kevin Fox and the James Whites. Can you just kind of explain how that dynamic is coached and how that exists inside the running back room? Yes, we had personnels.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Personnel groups. So when we say personnel groups, it's just like different formations, people go in, you know, if we go three wides or go spread and go empty, or we go to goal line formation or two tight ends with a full bat. So basically it was just, God how many times we heard this saying,
Starting point is 01:46:08 it was a do your job type of deal. So we kind of knew our roles, knew our assignments, what we were there for and what our specialty was. And that's what was so cool about being drafted by the Patriots. People always ask me, did you have fun? And I honestly say, really what, not much fun. Because we were never satisfied, bro.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Like we were kicking ass and doing it, but it like, we would be nine and one or something like that and it feel like we were freaking O and 12 around the facility because we weren't settling for anything but championship. Like that's what we were locked in on. But the dynamic in the running back room was kind of like, bro, it was a true, like almost like special forces, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:46:46 Like if, like Jules said, you got somebody go in there and defuse the bomb, you know, it's a third down situation. We know we gotta have this. Man, Red's big ass ain't in the game. Like I'm on the sidelines chilling. Shane over Woody's gonna be in there because those are the guys who know how to run routes. And understand.
Starting point is 01:47:01 There's the bomb diffuser, and then you're like the, one of those jammer cars. I'm like the, what are those, jammer cars? I'm like the armor truck that goes through that thing. Goal line, like you know, you see Rigg coming to game on goal line situation, short yardage, first and second down, and so that's why I always, for me, it got me in trouble carrying the pill, but I like, I really emptied the tank on every run,
Starting point is 01:47:22 because I knew that I was only in there for first and second down. And so third down come around, it would be either Danny or Shane's coming in. You know, if I stayed on the field and we stayed with that same personnel and I was tired, then BB would come on in or, you know, give me a little relief.
Starting point is 01:47:38 But man, we had a real family. And like, we didn't care how it went down. We just knew that we didn't want Bill's recap of the game when he's talking about the plays or the moments that had changed the game. We just didn't want it to be the running back room. You know what I mean? So that's really how it was.
Starting point is 01:47:56 We were so unselfish and we were just like, we were a true team, bro. Yeah. You mentioned emptying the tank on every run. I was watching your highlights last night. It seemed like every single run ended with just a shoulder. Just that little bit of extra, just you know what. Kerebi running hard.
Starting point is 01:48:09 Man. Like he possessed. I loved. I saw Mississippi running right there. It's just that SEC ball. Yeah. You know, like, I mean, like we had to really, we played ball in a time in the SEC when I know for a fact
Starting point is 01:48:24 I think it was at his pinnacle. And not to elaborate on that too long, but it's like on my team alone, I think we had 10 players drafted out of just my class. You know, Patrick Peterson was with me. I came out. Chad Jones, I don't know if y'all remember him, but the SEC at that time,
Starting point is 01:48:42 Cam Newton was there, Julio Jones was there. There's no Mid-American Conference, but. He said what? There's no American Conference? Bro, come on. Mid-American Conference. Get out of here, dude. If you go look at the SEC,
Starting point is 01:48:54 look at the SEC from the years of 2007 and 2011, Joe Hayden, the Percy Harvins. Florida's roster in itself was a NFL team, was a poor NFL team under Urban Meyer. They had, Kim Newton was back up to Tim Tebow. The Macs, all-star teams, like an all-man team. It was crazy. Georgia had No-Shawn Marino, had Matthew Stafford,
Starting point is 01:49:15 had A.J. Green, you know what I mean? James Harrison. Like these. Josh Cribbs. That was way before your time, bro. See how you try to claim all these kids. I played with James in like 19. Oh my God, give the guy a kick.
Starting point is 01:49:26 James Harrison was on our team like in 2018, 17. Yeah, I was way out of there by the end. But hey, Kent State, give it to him, bro. Jack Lambert, no big deal. But yeah, bro, it was a different style of running, bro, because we just had it, it was defense and smash mouth football back in the day. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:46 So that was the run style, bro. Kyler, let's jump into the game. So we kind of talked a lot about this, but mostly just both teams were riding a six game win streak. Houston was coming in, best season franchise in history, coming in 11 and 1 for a Monday night football game in Foxboro. We talked about it a little bit earlier, the Letterman jackets.
Starting point is 01:50:04 I want to give a little bit more context to that. So the idea came from nose tackle Sean Cody and linebacker Connor Barwin. And they said that I used to say before the season, it feels like we're on a college team. Everyone gets along. We have so much fun. And this jacket, you feel like you're on a high school team and where it's all about winning. It's all about being around a group of guys. This Jack is just another symbol of that There are no names on it. You just have your number your position group and the Texans logo That was cute and that plan was to continue the Jackets throughout the season Adding patches adding certain things based off of individual performances, but you guys beat the shit out of that idea.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Can't come back from that. Was that the first game they pulled about? That was the first game they pulled it out. Oh wow, and then they buried it right after that. Yeah. Yeah. No thank you. Probably should've waited until next week.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Yeah. It would come to a page. On the road? Bad call by whoever that was. God, Monday Night Football this game. Ooh, prime time. Talk about Monday Night Football this game. Ooh, prime time. Talk about Monday Night Football. What does it mean to you?
Starting point is 01:51:08 Monday night was freaking, it was always good to be on prime time, dude. You know, you knew everybody was watching, you know, and as a kid you dream about getting out there and making it to the stage at NFL. And during my four years in New England, and we're kicking ass the way we're kicking ass, we had prime time games almost every week.
Starting point is 01:51:29 You know what I mean? So that's why I say I'm just, I hit my knees and I say my prayers, I'm just thankful for the time that I got in New England. Because you look at it now and it's like, no prime time games. We had probably seven, eight, nine, 10 of them a year, and they were probably most likely wins.
Starting point is 01:51:48 You know what I mean? So we just had a squad that was working together. We really were a team group and man, we kicked ass. But Monday night football is where you got a ball. I mean you cannot come to Monday night knowing that you're on the field, you're a starter. They're going to put the ball in your hands and not show up.
Starting point is 01:52:06 So that was always my mentality. Come in, juice, come in and handle your business and make sure that we get the job done and don't embarrass yourself on the public stage, on the big stage. Can't, not in this game. No way, Letterman jackets. When's the last time you wore a Letterman jacket?
Starting point is 01:52:20 I actually have a bomber that looks, I designed a Letterman jacket with Joe's jeans actually it's kind of cool bomber your rocket Yeah, it's cool. We were thinking we should get some games with names letterman jackets out to this No, maybe we'll I don't maybe the next ratings will be fucking terrible Yeah, I mean what if we get out just fucking murdered I watched it I watched like a deep cut YouTube video real late last night that there's like a Letterman jacket curse Any time a pro team starts rocking them shit goes bad. See you can't wear Letterman jacket Texas started that BS. So we mentioned earlier this game
Starting point is 01:52:56 John Gruden's on the call. Shout out John Gruden. John Gruden was great on the call Loved him. I was watching the highlights. You like Gruden as a caller. Yes, yes. On the TV, he's the other caller, caller. Yes, Gruden's the man. I just did his podcast. He's fucking, I was impressed. He's always on. Intense. Yeah, he just, he knows how, he knows,
Starting point is 01:53:17 he's done TV, you could, so, we had 45 minutes to do his podcast. We were in and out, like timed, like he knows beats, but he also, like he knows the shit already, but he's been more fun with this bar stool. It's been fun watching him. It was cool.
Starting point is 01:53:33 It was cool, man. He's a, my dad was a big fan of him. He was a Raider. You know, dad's a diehard Raiders fan. So Gruden, Gruden's a legend around our household. You know what I mean? So yeah, he's the man. This game started, not a whole lot worth talking about
Starting point is 01:53:44 this game, but started out whole lot worth talking about this game But start out real hot three touchdowns first few drives Hernandez you mentioned two touchdowns Brandon Lloyd had 37 touchdowns By halftime Patriots were up 21 nothing You did have a red zone fumble though early. See what I'm talking about got recovered young kid red trippin Do what's it like being in Belichick's like fumble doghouse? Not a pile. Oh, dude, you know, I'm talking about I'm 36 years old right now,
Starting point is 01:54:12 and I don't really watch that much football, I'm being honest with you. Like I was kind of scarred after the pro career, because it was like, man, I know I had a decent career, but I had like some fumbles at some times, and like social media was just getting going. And people were firing and saying some of the craziest stuff to you in socials, and it used to just like,
Starting point is 01:54:33 man, it used to eat at me, bro. It used to just eat me up, and I finally got fed up one time, and I laid into some little kid that fell off my DMs. I'm like, little turd, I didn't say like that nice, but I'm like you little turd, I went in on him. You don't know the half, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Makes you know, his mom writes back a message,
Starting point is 01:54:51 I'm just letting you know, and I was like, mom, F you too. Like for one, you need to control your little kid talking to a grown man like this, yada, yada, yada. But it's like one of those deals, man, when you fumble the rock, it's the most disgusting feeling that you can have because you've let, literally it's the hopes and dreams of the team. You're a running back.
Starting point is 01:55:12 You got one job to do and that's hold the pill and get the yardage and get down. And when you cough it up like that, Bill has a zero tolerance for that. I mean, and I remember I was not only bench, but it's like the whole following week of practice. I don't know if you even remember this. Remember he took the footballs.
Starting point is 01:55:29 And greased them. Greased them up with like Vaseline and silicone. Put baby powder on top of them and making his point that I blew it and had a fumble. Then you do a drill where you have two balls in each hand, greased up the same way. Coach Fears is on one side, Bill comes over there and he's on the other side, and that's when he's gonna
Starting point is 01:55:49 actually coach you hard, you know, and make you realize that it's very important and it's not acceptable. So I got benched one time where he like took me out, I didn't even get to dress, you remember that? Where I had to sit on the sidelines? I'm like scarred for this, bro, just off of a fumble turnover but Coach had me on the sidelines, holding the rock, not even in pads bro.
Starting point is 01:56:13 I had to sit and watch the game and it was sick but I think like right after that, the next two games, he came in, he fed me pretty well and I was freaking killing it because I was just pissed off and embarrassed but Bill's doghouse is Nowhere that any human being wants to be ever ever ever do ever so I still love you coach I do the thing about this game
Starting point is 01:56:35 We were doing a lot a whole lot of no huddle, and that's because of JJ watt You know you we were trying to capture a team in the same personnel group, get them tired, don't give them enough time to communicate. So that's, and that's why we were going no huddle. Keep that personnel on. Just blew the brakes, blew the brakes off of them. Yeah, let me put a bow in this game.
Starting point is 01:57:00 So 21 and a half, throwing nothing in half, start off third quarter early, Stalwart had a 63 yard touchdown off the street. Big touchdown. Off the street. Loved Stalwart. When that first game, he was awesome. I loved Stalwart.
Starting point is 01:57:10 He was one of those leaders that came into our locker room, man. And we spent some time. He was just a quality dude. He really was. He understood the different ways. Had a lot of perspective from life experience that he explained through for us young guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:24 And then also want to make sure to mention that Danny Woodhead, if we're giving out fumbles, also had a fumble in the red zone. However, his was recovered by Lloyd in the end zone. B Lloyd touched down. Yeah, in this game. Boop. I think he did, he popped it out and B Lloyd scooped it up.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Scooped it up, or it was scooped in the end zone, scored. And you capped off Patriot scoring with a 14-yard touchdown. They had 13 penalties for 126 yards. You know we got our ass ripped. Final score, 42-14. Beatdown. That was bad.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Beep, beep, beep, beatdown. After math, we were really taught what championship football is. Brady James, LSU, speak that real. Yeah, Houston finished 12-4. That's what he said. Houston finished 12 and four. That's a defeating quote.
Starting point is 01:58:09 This was cream season too, by the way. Oh, this is cream season. That's what? Cream season's a part of the season where the cream rises to the top and you know, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. There are only about six teams each year
Starting point is 01:58:21 that really have a shot. Yeah. And then eventually. Well, it's developed through the pasteurization period of the season, which is like week four to eight, 12. That's like when the milk's trying to get up to the top. Cream rise to the top. Yeah, but like Coach said, best football has to be played after Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:58:36 After Thanksgiving. Absolutely. The cream season's about to start. Yeah, so this was a matchup in the playoffs, too. Patriots also won 41-28. Ryd, you had 15 carries, 80 yards, and a tug. Ooh. Got out.
Starting point is 01:58:49 Patriots then lose to the Ravens in the AFC Championship game. Gary Kubiak would be fired. Years later, JJ Watt was asked if he still had the jacket. He says, I don't think so. I hope not. I don't want to bring that up at all. Those were some bad days. Takes a man to admit to it. Real talk.
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Starting point is 02:02:33 That's soundedouttogether.org. Brought to you by the Ad Council and Pivotal. All right, let's name the game and then score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it rid What is the the name of this game that you like the most off your dome or we have some we have the letterman Jacket game the letterman loss Texas fold them the Monday night massacre
Starting point is 02:03:00 Houston humiliation it's got to have something with the Letterman jacket, I believe. I disagree with you that quick, bro. I'm going with Texas Fold'em, bro. Fold'em up, get them out of there. That was a pretty. The whole thing about this game is the Letterman jacket, but this is your game, we'll go with the Texas Fold'em. Texas Fold'em is, I think, great wordplay
Starting point is 02:03:18 and props to Jack for doing that, but I mean, I gotta push back here too. This is 100% the Letterman jacket game, no? I'll give you that, I'll give that. I mean, the Letterman jacket here too. This is 100% the Letterman Jacket game, no? I'll give you that, I'll give that. I mean, the Letterman Jacket game. This is like big time story. They came out with it, because like you say, for them to come out with that,
Starting point is 02:03:32 you gotta have that in, I'll give you that. I'll back check on my words, but the Texas Folding is great. It's great. Great, great, you know, great wordplay, like you say. Letterman lost. The Letterman Jacket game, for sure. Letterman Jacket game.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Give it to them, yeah. All right, score the game, is this the Letterman Jacket game. We'll give it to it, yeah. All right, score of the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Steven, stakes, zero to 10, decimals okay. The stakes of this week 12 game. Or is it week, what is it, week 12? No, they're 11 and one, week 14 game.
Starting point is 02:04:01 Week 14, but December. Week 14 game, the stakes of this game, regular season game. I'll give it a seven. Seven, that's a good score. Seven, six, seven. I think we were focused on, or we were focused on, I think for them it was their Super Bowl trying to hype theirself up like they were somebody.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Yeah, we can only grade the stakes for our perspective. I'm saying. We'll look on winning streaks too. Yeah. Monday night game, late in the season. Some stakes here. I'll go with a seven. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:30 Cause this is the start of cream season. 4.9, Jesus Jack. This can't be right. Five. Jack is 4.9, I have 6.3. Okay. Okay. Star power of this game.
Starting point is 02:04:43 Monday night football baby. Monday night football, the players in it Kubiak's a Super Bowl winning cat coach in the future. You got Bill staff. You got Tom Brady. What? JJ why star power this game rid so power Monday night? Well, I'm gonna go with seven again seven go seven cuz we had some big games You know what I mean, but Monday night Matt matchup on two good teams Matt Chubb quarterback a little bit of a ding But yeah, I'm gonna go with the six point four good Jack at home had a seven point five and I Andre Johnson
Starting point is 02:05:15 Johnson and Eric I loved on a foster That's a baller's a red some ballers Dwayne Brown go Hokies to I had some ballers in there. I had some ballers. Dwayne Brown go Hokies too. Yeah. Gameplay. The gameplay of the game. The gameplay would be like the entertainment value of it,
Starting point is 02:05:29 going back and forth. Like the gameplay, right? Yeah, yeah. Explain that. It's an exciting game, great stuff happens, back and forth, you know. Or is it just a shellacking? No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:05:42 I mean, I'm kind of stuck on my number there because I think for the Pats, for us, seven. Seven. Seven because for our fans, we gave them a show. You know what I mean? It wasn't much of a game that you're sitting on your seat watching like it was closed. It was a beat down.
Starting point is 02:05:56 It was clinical from the Patriots side. Yeah, but we came to play. I was watching this game, and you could just see the, it was very clinical. We were having our way. It just, not even that though, just like you could just see the, it was very clinical. Like. We were having our way. It just, not even that though, just like, you could, it was like a well-oiled machine. Methodical, run game, this game, intermediate game,
Starting point is 02:06:15 deep pass, like everything was clicking, it just looked like a highly run machine. It was a perfect game. Shout out Gucci on our offensive play, call it a game, because the play action was killing him. That touchdown from Lloyd, the play action. Oh, it was like Moss running down. Oh, it was beautiful.
Starting point is 02:06:31 The whole, we were pulling the D. I'm going to go with the seven as well. You're running at will, yeah. Jack has a 7.1. I had a 5.1. I thought it was a five for Patriots and zero for the Texans. Name of the game, the Letterman-Jacket game. You got to score the name of the game. You gotta score the name of the game.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Oh, score the name of the game. Let's give it a, you riding all the way down with the sevens, bro? I'll give that, actually look, Letterman-Jackett game, I'll give it a nine. Cause I mean, everybody remembers the game. I'll give it a 8.2 cause people remember the Letterman-Jackett game.
Starting point is 02:07:00 For a regular season game, and newer teams for a championship, might not know who scored or who didn't. Lookit, Jack gave me a 9-7. That's a 9. I had a 7-9. We might have to check in on Jack after this. All right, where is this at?
Starting point is 02:07:11 Where does this rank? The final score is 7.14. Where does it rank all time? That puts it 57th. Just below the 2011 Stanley Cup final, Game 7 Bruins-Kanucks, which is a criminal score, and then just above the 2006 NFC wild card game, Cowboys versus Seahawks.
Starting point is 02:07:32 That I believe is the most spiky. We done 80 of these motherfuckers. Dude, we're closing in on 100. It's, we gotta do something special. Ooh, hey. 80. Hey, do your thing, bro. Do your thing.
Starting point is 02:07:42 80 game. I'm just double tapping from afar, but hey. I love the gram, bro. When I get to see the feed come down, the games and names, y'all keep killing your thing bro. Do you think I'm just double tapping from afar? But hey, I love the gram bro when I get to get to see the feed come down the games and names I'll keep killing it bro. It's great man. That was awesome. That's great That's it. I think we got so many stories left from that list You got to come back now that you're a California. You got to come back. Definitely. I mean, and I think it'd be cool If why don't we have rid join us? for the chill zone Let's do it. Yeah, why don't we have Rid join us for the Chill Zone?
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Starting point is 02:08:24 Today we're hitting the old hotline, or should I say the chill line? Chill line. With Steven Ridley. Again, that number is 424-291-2290. Let's get into it. Hey, this is Michael from Pine Grove, Pennsylvania. Steven Ridley, you're one of my favorite touchdown celebrations. Drawing a door, kicking it down.
Starting point is 02:08:45 I was wondering what inspired that? Man, what inspired the kick the door down celebration? Every defensive league is trying to keep you out of the end zone. That was my way of giving them the big middle finger and letting them know that guess what? It ain't no stopping the kid when we got our mind made up and they're going to turn around and hand it off. Because I know 12 is going to punch it in. If you let me get me a little bit of shine, hand me the rock. I got to close it for the team. So I love to kick the door down
Starting point is 02:09:11 and just give it to a defense. Let them know. I mean business. Appreciate it. It was intense too. Draw it up. Yeah. In there.
Starting point is 02:09:21 And the salute this week. None of that. It's over. Hey guys, Stalin from Nut House Nation back at you again. Rid, welcome to the Nut House. Dude, that's badass. Hey, I want to paint a scenario for you guys here. We're having a cookout at the Nut House, a Nut House cookout. You have all the time in the world to make sure this food comes out perfectly since we
Starting point is 02:09:41 know you like to take your time and make sure it's good. You know, we'll enjoy some ice cold cores light. We'll blast some Bon Jovi toss the pigskin around Hang out in the hot tub Whatever it is. We'll wait so Steven. What meal are you making for everyone and Julian? You have to cook up this dish as well. So what's the move we go in burger time? See it cook out boys cook out. What are you bringing to the cookout, Ryd? Good question, Dallin. That is awesome.
Starting point is 02:10:09 Where's Dallin from? We talk to him a lot. He's in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania kid, Pennsylvania. Well, I think it's only right that I go ahead and plug the homies. Do y'all read the hat? I'm cooking some duck poppers.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Duck poppers? Duck poppers at the cookout, man. Duck poppers? Well you can't kill them if you don't eat them that's kind of the known rule but hey I'm gonna cook some duck poppers for the nut house I really am bro I got to. I'm as boring as they come for my cookout just hamburgers and hot dogs. See that's that Kelly shit. I love hamburgers and hot dogs. And of course light, we should probably. Oh, and of course light. You go, but that's where I gotta bring that Mississippi and Louisiana to it.
Starting point is 02:10:50 You know, that good cook cookin'. I like barbecue chicken. I like tri-tip. In California, we eat a lot of tri-tip. Tri-tip's good. They don't even eat tri-tip anywhere else. I mean, but if I cook, if I cook some duck poppers, would you try them?
Starting point is 02:11:03 Yeah, I'll try them. All right, cool. Is like poppers like wings, like when you like kind of fold them out Poppers how I do my poppers man. I get a duck breast and we're gonna cut it up kind of like a nugget. Okay wrap it in cream Put cream cheese a jalapeno wrap it in bacon I'll just watch your fingernails cuz you're probably gonna bite down. You know what I mean? So yeah, I got y'all will cook that up for y'all. No, no, I want a duck popper. I'm coming so
Starting point is 02:11:29 pop a top Cheers, bro. Cheers, Bob's. Love it. Love you. Man. Oh, awesome You know not houses are Vander calling them with a question for our boy Ridley You ever get to meet Mike the tiger when you're at LQ. Oh Yeah, man Mike is uh, you can't be a tiger without having your time with Mike the tiger who meet Mike the Tiger when you're at LSU. Oh yeah, man. Mike is a, you can't be a tiger without having your time with Mike the Tiger. Who's Mike the Tiger? Cut it out, Jules.
Starting point is 02:11:51 I don't know who Mike, what is this, Tony the Tiger? Man, our mascot is a real live tiger. Is it what, seven? It's not the same one for the last 20, 50 years. No, I mean he's- You just named every tiger Mike? Yeah, like Ugga. That's our mascot, Mike.
Starting point is 02:12:04 See, dude, I'm going Tony the Tiger. I'm not letting you hate on that, bro. No. Because look, when I tell you the intimidation factor is a 10, because at what we do every game day, Mike comes out of his cage, and we take Mike right over to where the visiting team runs out. So when you come out of your visiting locker room,
Starting point is 02:12:19 you got to go by the cage and Mike the Tiger. And it's a real bingo tiger in there. Sucker's probably, how many, seven, eight, maybe even a thousand pounds, a real cat. Big cat sitting right there, so hell yeah. Do they still put them on the field? Hell yeah. They do? They have them on the field in the cage. Like that's what I'm saying, when you run out from pregame,
Starting point is 02:12:36 you have to go by Mike the Tiger's cage. If I went to another school, that was a really good school in the SEC and I was going by that and I knew that was coming Bro, I would I would get like a piece of hamburger meat and throw it at the tiger So when we rode when we would run by he'd be occupied. He'd be eating or something I mean, you wouldn't be doing shit Mike's eating opponents, bro With a little meat he won't he want a kid stay Julian that only coming there think he's gonna do something Oh, you gonna eat there a nice. And they have a nice habitat.
Starting point is 02:13:05 They set up a nice habitat for him now too. So it's like he's going to eat. Oh, what? Mike lives like a king. Mike has a big cage right across from Tiger Stadium. Like literally, you come out the stadium, and he's got like a, man, almost like how we have the Patriot place or whatever.
Starting point is 02:13:17 He's got a whole setup right there by the memorabilia where you can buy all the LSU stuff. Yeah, he's got a huge, he's got a great life. He's got a huge cage. He does. He does, but. He's got a great life. He's got a huge cage. He does, he does, but. He's got a great life, he's got a huge cage. You're a hater, bro. We got Mike the 7th right now.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Mike the 7th, his record's 72 and 29. Shout out to Mike the 6th, who was there when you were there. He was 93 and 30. Hello. Hello. 2007 to. His jokers live long. October 11th, 2016. He got a chip too. Mike the
Starting point is 02:13:48 Six got a chip. So I don't know. Y'all have to look at this, but I want to say like they kind of get tigers that might be like kind of sick or something like that and then they kind of bring them back. Like you know what I mean? Like they rescue and get them healthy and then. I went to that. I went to that black Jaguar white tiger place. Oh my God dude, that's wild. What was that? It's this dude in Mexico that literally collects lions and tigers and leopards.
Starting point is 02:14:15 The sanctuary too. It's, I don't know, it's crazy. They're like just roaming around random other lions and tigers. This guy's in it with them. In the cage? Yeah. Yeah, wild.
Starting point is 02:14:27 Steve Irwin type stuff, but with tigers? Mexican version. Yeah, he's like hugging them and like batting them and playing with them. Yeah. That's what you say. I left that place going like, I don't know if he's gonna be here very long.
Starting point is 02:14:38 Buddy. He went into one. I went into one with a leopard. I'm like, I gotta get me out. Yeah, but like Mandola. There was a leopard that shared an exhibit with that one. And he was like, oh, if that one was in there, it was the black one. He's like, oh, that'd kill you in a second.
Starting point is 02:14:51 So you just put him out and you can hang out with a nice one. Yeah. Fucking wild. That's not what I want to hear. No. I'm not going. Last question here. Hey, what's up, games with names?
Starting point is 02:15:02 This is James from New York. I have a question for Ridd. What was it like playing those Friday night games in Death Valley back at LSU? Let me know. Big. New Yorker asking... Alright. Jade, Rid about Death Valley? The honest answer is, and of course I'm biased, but I go back to the hundred and something thousand screaming fans that the Motorhomes pull in on Wednesday evening, they're cooking jambalaya and gumbo on Thursday night, drinking Friday morning,
Starting point is 02:15:38 all to catch the Tigers walk down on Saturday. There is no place in all of football, pro or college, that is more lit than Death Valley on Saturday night. It's not. I'm just telling y'all, and if I could ever take y'all there, I would love to. I'd love y'all to go experience it, but I'm telling you, once I got to the pros, it was a downgrade because the kids are sold out. Once people have been boozed up for that long
Starting point is 02:16:05 and they come in religiously week after week, the motor homes pile in, you see a line on Wednesday night of people coming in for a Saturday game. Where in the pros do you get that? You don't. And now they put the light show in the stadium too, where they're cutting off the lights, and it's like a club in there,
Starting point is 02:16:19 and they're banging the boozy going, the culture's in. I mean, it's like no other. It's the best. It's the best. The best in all of sport. Even all like the English soccer hooligans out in freaking Birmingham or something. I will say- Or fucking London.
Starting point is 02:16:38 Only thing we're probably missing is that flame. You know how they light the flames up and do all that stuff? Well, that's the Olympics, Red. No, I've seen the soccer stadium, they set the things on fire. They set shit on fire? Hell yeah, like in those soccer games. Oh, the Hooligans.
Starting point is 02:16:51 I guess, it's like that one area where you don't even want to be in that thing. Have you not seen Philadelphia celebration? They're lighting shit on fire. It ain't touching LSU. I think the only thing the soccer has, like European football has on American football, is that the chance and shit go throughout the play.
Starting point is 02:17:06 Where like in football, like, okay you stop, you got to communicate, the crowd kind of stops, but the chance go on and on and on throughout the whole game is kind of tight. Alright. That was the Chill Zone. Thanks to our favorite beer Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit CoorsLight.com slash GWN and remember, celebrate responsibly. Well what a game! Freaking awesome. The Letterman Jacket game. We got to recap that deal. Hey I hate you not out there with me bubs and talk about that one but hey, gotta come back. You gotta do another game bro. I appreciate you coming so much.
Starting point is 02:17:46 Come on, man. We gotta plug Rid on, get Rid on. Steven Ridley on IG, that's with the A-N for all you people. Yes, sir. No E-N and no P-H, okay? Not Stefan. It's not Stefan, it's Steve Van. Steve Van.
Starting point is 02:18:02 Killer in the shut up. It's not like Stefan from Urkel, it's Steve Van. Steve Van. From Steve Vann. Killer in the shut up. It's like not like Stefan from Urkel. It's Steve Vann. Steve Vann. From Mississippi. Mississippi. And that's on IG. You got any products?
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