Games with Names - The Letterman Jacket Game with Stevan Ridley | Texans vs. Patriots
Episode Date: February 25, 2025Stevan Ridley is in studio! The Super Bowl Champion and former NFL running back is with us to relive one of the most infamous regular season games in league history: The Letterman Jacket Game between ...the Houston Texans and the New England Patriots from the 2012 NFL season. Rid joins us on the couch (2:39). We go back to December 2012 (1:05:18). We get into these teams (1:18:34). We dive into the game (1:24:41). We score it (1:55:14). Rid sticks around to hit the Chill Line with us in this week's edition of The Chill Zone presented by Coors Light (2:00:51).Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And we are on a mission to find the greatest game of all time.
On today's episode, we are covering Week 14, 2012 Texans vs. Patriots, aka the Letterman Jacket Game, game with Super Bowl champion, national champion, and former NFL running back my
teammate, Steven Ridley. And we get into talking the infamous Letterman jackets.
Bro, you're coming up in our shit, swagging out rocking these jackets like this is
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Being blessed with the opportunity
to go and play in Tiger Stadium.
You had to earn your stripes at LSU.
Football is life down there.
And what it's like in Bill Belichick's dog house.
Just what the are you doing?
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games with names is a production of IHeartRadio. December 10th, 2012, Gillette Stadium, Foxboro, Massachusetts.
The 11-1. Texans roll into the Bay State for a Monday night showdown.
Wait! What are they wearing?
This is the Letterman-Jackie game.
Massachusetts to Bay State?
I've never heard that.
I thought that's Rhode Island.
Steve, welcome to Games with Names, bro.
I appreciate you having me on, man.
I didn't know how long you were going to wait to get me in here, but you know I'm here.
Well, we've been waiting because we just wanted to accumulate all the stories
That we lived through
But the the specific game we're gonna hit today is actually a game that I reference all the time
and I'm so excited to actually go and
Talk about this story with someone who balled in this game. Come on man. Today we're looking at the Letterman Jacket game.
Woo hoo.
Texans versus the Patriots.
Week 14, 2012 game.
In one sentence, why this game?
And this game was, it was special for so many reasons
cause I think we were both coming in two hot teams
towards the end of the year.
But ultimately we had a little chip on our shoulder, man,
because I think everything goes through Foxbird
in that point in time while we were balling.
And those boys came in rocking the Letterman jackets
and all the good stuff.
Hey, it looked good for pregame.
But as y'all see, as we get into this,
man, we were all about the business.
So that's why we picked this game,
because it was two good records,
two good teams going at it,
but ultimately it was Patriots today.
Man, is this the greatest game of all time?
No, come on man.
You gotta have actual game for it to be a good game.
Like it was something on camera for y'all to watch,
but I don't think it was much of a game.
So we asked everyone, right?
It was one to remember for sure it was for sure yeah what's life
looking like these days man life is good life is good man got married married in
June I got throw that out there first to my bribe man and you know things change
once you get married but before that you're the rubber band ring guy yeah you
know activities huh so I'm doing it yeah rubber band ring guy? Yeah, you know. That's for activities, huh?
Sound good.
With your rubber band.
You know, you gotta be safe with it.
You know, I got the bling bling
when it's Friday or Saturday night,
but through the week, we just keep the rubber on
and hunting and fishing and doing the outdoor stuff.
We can't have the diamonds on all the time.
Now, like, can stuff really, like,
I remember my dad, he'd be working on cars
with my mom's ring on.
O.G.
O.G.
I'm like.
You gotta turn on those wrenches and get hung up on something.
I know.
It's bad news.
You're probably knocking that thing everywhere.
Old school, bro.
Shout out to Pops, man.
He ain't soft.
You know, some of these kids don't have no calluses
on their hands, but you know, get to talking about Pops.
K-Rig got some callus on.
And the country boy from Mississippi, it is what it is.
But yeah, dawg, so it's good, man.
Life is okay.
We're transitioning, you know.
Ball retired in 2018, 2019,
so we're right at five or six years out.
And we're just kind of finding my way, man.
Finally got out here to the West Coast permanently.
Spent many off seasons with this cat on the West Coast.
He's lucky he was born in the great state of California.
I was just a country boy dreaming trying to get West.
And my bribe was on this side for eight years before me.
I was back and forth.
And then I finally made it official two years ago
and moved out here to the West Coast.
So get to pull up on this fella from time to time, man.
So it's good.
Love it.
And I love it.
Cause we hung out a lot when we played together.
You grew up in Mississippi. Yes, sir
So I spent a little time on the Mississippi River did a little research about the Louisiana purchase out in 1803 for 15 million dollars
I mean what?
Well, I was just I was at the Super Bowl and I had I was interested in the Mississippi River
You're from Mississippi. You also went to school at LSU. Can you explain some of this?
LSU Louisiana crazy, I don't know. I was so interested with that area with the Super Bowl. How was it in Louisiana?
All right, shout out man
Louisiana purchase 1803 15 million bucks all the way up to the Minnesota president. Huh? What was the president? Oh
Who's the president? Well, who was the president?
What year was he?
Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson, wow.
Stole that land.
Look, okay, we speak it on the real.
No, I mean, as a business deal, 15 mil.
I mean, it was literally,
you speak of the Louisiana fringes.
He stole it from the French,
who stole it from some other people.
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, we don't want to get too deep into that,
do we?
But hey, either way.
Either way.
The South, bro, is real.
You know, and I gotta always throw out there my LSU Tigers.
Without my platform at LSU, man,
going down there handling business,
being blessed with the opportunity
to go and play in Tiger Stadium.
I tell people all the time, man,
we play in front of the best fans in all of football.
No disrespect to the Boston, no disrespect.
But 100,000 screaming fans, probably a good 75% of them
are wasted from Wednesday night, Thursday night,
Friday night in the buildup.
But football is life down there.
And I tell people all the time, man,
it's like, you know, you come up in the South,
it's not very much to do.
Country town, we grew up hunting, fishing, playing ball.
We're bikes.
Riding quads, you know, we just like,
we're country folks, we're outdoor people.
But that molds us to be some of the best ball players.
And I might put a little wildfire on the jewels
when I say this, but when you look into the athletes
and the guys around the league,
it's a whole lot of ballers that come out of that
Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas.
I'm not throwing Arkansas in there.
We'll stick with the city of Louisiana, bro.
But really, Ryan Mallet played in this game.
He finished it.
He's Arkansas.
He's Texas, or he's from Arkansas, isn't he?
From Arkansas, I think Mallildog was from Arkansas.
Yeah, amazing, thanks.
We battled it out through college, man,
and Mallet was the fiery one coming in the stadium.
He was talking noise, like, you know,
why you gotta always look at your white boys, man,
and come in and that really ball and do it.
And Mild was the quarterback,
and Mild just kind of ran his mouth and talked noise,
like nobody had ever seen, but he was a gunslinger,
bombed the ball down
there 60, 70 yards with ease.
And he was just, he was wild child, bro.
So God rest his soul, that's my dog forever.
And so he's not in the Southern, the South doesn't
accept him though, because Arkansas.
He's Arkansas, I'll give it to him,
because he's a legend in Arkansas, in the SEC.
He gets there, but Mississippi, Louisiana though,
is strong, dude.
You know, you got that Ole Miss LSU rivalry.
But, you know, coming up, coming out of high school,
went to a small little private school.
Never thought in a million years I'd go to Division I,
sent out those highlight films, sent out three.
I wanted to stay close to mom so she could make it.
And the dream was always to get to LSU.
So, going back to that, man, it was really one of those deals
that if they ever offered or said,
hey, they'd give me a shot, it was a no-brainer,
I was going.
And it's by far to date the best decision I ever made
to go to college in Baton Rouge.
Because I tell people all the time, man,
it's nothing like playing ball for the LSU Tigers, man.
When you're playing there and you're balling,
you're a god in Louisiana, man
Let me tell you something right now rid talk to me. Okay when you play in front of
3,000 people in Ken, Ohio on your senior day. I'll tell you that's a fucking environment that you gotta see
Alright, that's what you need to see
Because bother teammate down the road Roosevelt Nicks went to Kent State.
And you know, when I bring up these guys,
I look at them and I was like, they don't have many.
But when I look at Jules and I look at Rosie,
man, these are guys that are, they don't have the respect,
but every one of y'all that I meet come out of y'all just-
James Harrison, Josh Cribbs.
I mean, the fucking Mac Daddy love in the league. Come on, y'all that meet come out of y'all. James Harrison, Josh Cribbs. I mean the fucking Mac Daddy love in the league.
Come on y'all grind.
The Mac Big Ben.
Max Crosby.
Max Crosby.
He's Ken Statham?
No, well, see.
You gotta claim the conference.
In a Mac school we go whole conference.
Okay, okay.
As a team.
Our whole conference is a team.
Okay.
You know? Okay, okay. Well hey. But L conference is a team. Okay, you know, okay. Okay. Why but
Lsu I mean, I just remember you always talking how
Crazy the environment was you always I mean you clearly love at LSU and every guy that goes to LSU loves LSU like
The alumni that come from there
Can you speak about some of the guys you play with that went to the league and just that LSU
freaking tree of guys that go to the league?
Who we got in LSU?
Absolutely. Let's make a list.
Absolutely, man.
I guess I'll talk first with some of the ones
I came in with and then some of the ones that came behind.
How about we do that?
Because I want to talk about the ones
who paved the way for me.
All right, who paved the way?
So when I came there as a recruit,
Recruit.
Jamarcus Russell was quarterback.
Jamarcus Russell.
Dwayne Bowe was that receiver, early Doucet,
Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Ali Haasmith.
Brandon LaFell.
Brandon LaFell.
B. LaFell.
JoJo was a little bit younger than those guys,
but I played with JoJo.
These were guys that I was coming in watching.
The LaRon Landrys, the Scholar Greens, I don a little bit younger than those guys, but I played with Joe, these were guys that I was coming in and watching, the LaRon Landrys, the Schuyler Greens,
I don't know if y'all know those numbers,
Trinidad Holliday, being a little rocket, man.
But these were guys that we played with,
and if you look at the running back room,
I called him my grandpapa, was Jacob Hester.
I don't even know if y'all know that guy,
but he was one of the,
he was the baddest white boy that I knew
before I met Jules, I'll say that, man.
Because Hest was a running back, he was downhill, bro,
and I really learned so much from him
because he was a full back before he was a running back.
So talk about that grit and the star power
that you get out of the boot and you get out of Louisiana.
I think it has a lot to do with how we grind down there.
Like we are really truly, it's always us versus them,
but we are the type of people that
I'm not gonna say we're the scholars that you find at Notre Dame, but you're gonna find some hard
working, die hard, ball or nothing, sold out individuals that just want to be great. I know
you guys did pay cuts when you guys got to the to the league I can't speak on all that because I was just trying to hold on
Tebow teams taking pay cuts when you came to the Patriot
All you guys get paid. Hey, hey, it's good. It's good when it's good, but I ain't gonna say that
Uh, I can't speak on it too much
I see you listed as a fullback early at LSU?
Well, when we got there, young age, as a running back,
they always wanted every running back
to have a little bit of fullback in their DNA
before they started holdin' the pill.
Because when you hold the pill,
you hold the life of the team.
But the physicality of the SEC and old school football,
I have to bark and say that
because they changed the game a lot.
I've only had double digit concussions.
I'm in full on agreeance that it needs
to be softened up a little bit,
but that wasn't my day.
It was my day.
We were two tight ends, full back,
downhill, playing smash mouth ball.
But LSU always, if you play the running back position,
they put you at full back first
just to make sure that you'd go in there
and kiss that linebacker in the mouth
and you weren't scared to contact.
So that's how we came up.
You know, we came up rough.
We had an awesome string coach.
I got to give it to Tommy Moffitt, man.
He was one of the pillars of LSU, but he-
Tommy Moffitt.
Developed, he's at Texas A&M as the head string coach now.
But he was one of those pillars to LSU, man,
that was there for 20, 30 years.
I'm not sure how long Coach Moffat was there,
but we had those long days on the grind
where it was 110 degrees out there.
It's humid as hell.
You see the-
Hot in fucking Louisiana.
You see the, you just left from down there.
Come on now.
We played Louisiana Lafayette in September once
and it was smokin'.
It's brutal, bro.
Hot.
You get out there and you literally see the waves
coming off the field,
and we had what we call the 110 test.
And so we had to run 26 110s.
Everybody has a conditioning test
after the past year starts,
but that kind of lets you know where your teammates stood
because the 110 test was no joke.
Coach Moffitt comes out there, hands behind the line.
Everybody's lined up, offense lineman go,
your skill position go, your running backs go,
but when I tell you guys who are falling out,
I'm not even stretching the story a little bit,
excuse my language mom, I watched a guy shit on himself
and not stop, bro.
Seriously, from running this 110 test,
because if you stopped and you missed one,
didn't matter if you were on 21 or seven,
you're starting over and you're doing this again.
So nobody wanted to run that conditioning test
any more than you had to.
But this was the DNA of our team.
You know, you-
The conditioning test, cause now granted, for the listener,
they build these boys up to get to there
throughout the off season.
And then they get like two, three weeks off
where they get to go home.
And then they come back before the season.
That's when they hit it.
Or it could be before they leave for the season.
So they build you up.
So you've been working and you've been seeing guys
shit and piss themselves to try to get to this point
to this day.
But like the conditioning test is always like,
you see men cry in college.
In college, the pro ones are a joke.
But when you go to college,
we used to have to do 10 300s with a minute.
We had like a minute to do the 300
and you had like 45 seconds rest.
I remember watching grown men cry
because they didn't want to start this thing over
and like guys are stripping and stuff.
I mean, that's the conditioning test
that's supposed to take your soul in college.
And it was effectively done in Baton Rouge year after year.
I'm talking about you'd come out there,
two pair of cleats, two pair of socks,
you knew you were gonna run through a pair,
you see guys shucking clothes like Jules says,
but whatever it was, you didn't wanna be the guy
that didn't make it, because you had to run it again and number two you let the position group down so then it's like
show everyone on the team you didn't make it that you didn't make it be on
that list you didn't put that grind in and then you got to sit out there you go
to the cafeteria to get your food looking at your ass like you get a guy
like me and say me I don't think you should be in this line maybe you should
go hit the fucking treadmill
Really how it goes, bro, you got it. I mean, what the fuck are we doing?
We're supposed to go to battle with this guy. You can't do the conditioning test
You ain't even ready to go. We're supposed to we're supposed to be a two-minute drill for the fucking Super Bowl
National championship and this guy can't make his fucking conditioning. I got a road. We're gonna rely on this guy
Can we depend on you? That's like the same thing if this guy was to cut the ball like is he going green or red?
We're gonna cut we're gonna rely on this guy to cut the fucking bomb the wire
That's how important it is. You're the guy in full metal jacket who like puts them on and gets the oranges over
That's you. You're the ringleader for that guy. No, I'm just saying
Fucking let's go conditioning test boys. It comes down to like we say earning your stripes, bro
You had to earn your stripes at LSU you had to come in that thing ready to play
The big dogs were out there and they weren't checking up
Some of them boys are running 26 110s and I remember one time and we were so physically in shape and
The team was freaking,
this is another funny story, we were out there freaking running,
we had, I think Coach said if we had a certain percentage
of the team pass, because nobody,
we never made it like 100%,
but he's like if a certain percentage of the team passes,
we'll only run it once and we smoked it.
And Coach Moffitt was pissed that we won.
He was like, on the sideline.
So we went from running 26 one 10s
and he made us run gassers after that.
But I want to say we ran those 26 one 10s
and gassers were from sideline to sideline.
You'd have to go 50 yards over, 50 yards back,
but we'd have to do it twice.
And so it was equivalent of running a down and back 100,
but you go 50 at a time.
That's harder because you have to break down.
When you got to touch lines and stop,
you gotta rev the, you gotta slow the engine down
and you gotta rev that shit up.
It's not like you're cruising on that goddamn freeway
you can put that thing in cruise control.
And get on out there.
I guess the mileage goes down when you stop and start.
Hell yeah.
It's the same thing in a fucking body.
It's 100% because 110's the secret is you get in shape. If you get out for the first 30 or 40 yards,
you can coast on the cross down there.
I always dug for the first, like I would,
I was always a rabbit.
Get out.
I would get out.
Jules is high energy, bro.
I mean, as y'all know, calling a squirrel,
it is what it is.
Fucker never got tired, bro, ever.
And I mean, but it's just who he is.
And so we'll get into that later on.
When I first laid my eyes on a man and
The love that I have for this guy before we get out of before we get out of LSU
What are your thoughts on Brian Kelly? What's going on? Are we are we accepting him? Oh
See you I mean you're part of your we part of the brotherhood of their mouse in your pocket. We oh you I'm not a
Mean, I'm not against him. I We oh you I'm not uh, I mean I'm not against them
I'm not a I'm not all for him
Yeah, when this year though, right said again, you got a win this year
Did we make it to the playoff? Hey buddy, let's just look at the last few head coaches that we've had at LSU
We are not afraid to pay you to get the hell out of town. Okay, so I'm just gonna be real
We have ballers and we know we have ballers.
We're strong every year.
We need coaches, we need leadership,
and I think that's what they looked for in BK.
And I'm not giving up on BK.
I just say that BK's got his work cut out ahead of him,
and I don't think he's too comfortable in Baton Rouge
right now, even though he's the head man,
because our standard is not where it's been the last year or two. Like it's like
Natty or Buster on that place and then if it's not Natty it's like one or two
wins and we'll let you make it until next year. So you know those boosters
ain't afraid to throw that cash and make sure that we get the right people in
there because we know that we have the players there and the cultures there it's
built and we have a standard bro. And we believe the SEC goes through us,
especially with Saban being gone, for God's sakes.
I mean, that was the only person that we had.
That was a giant that we knew every year.
Whoever wins that LSU-Bama game
most likely is gonna be in your national championship talk.
What about Georgia?
They're on the other side, bro.
They're on the other side.
But, they're silent.
Some would say Brian Kelly's in a sticky situation. Sticky situation, bro. On the other side. But. Some would say. Who we're going to. Brian Kelly's in a sticky situation.
Sticky situation bro.
Not because of the humidity.
In Baton Rouge. Baton Rouge.
In Baton Rouge dude.
Because hey it's a winter go home around there bro.
Truly.
National title in 2007.
You got it.
Before we got to put a stamp on it.
How was winning an ad in college.
Man it was awesome. It was awesome. I was a redshirt freshman. So I got to put a stamp on it, how was winning an ad in college? Man, it was awesome, it was awesome.
I was a red shirt freshman, so I gotta say that.
So I think it all goes back to like,
hey, you have kids, I don't have kids yet,
but it goes back to your upbringing and your childhood.
When you come in as a freshman,
and the first year that you get there,
Matt Flynn, Jacob Hester, Brandon LaFell, Demetrius Byrd,
those guys lead you to a national championship
against Ohio State, Beny Wells, big back,
love me some big backs, I'm a big back myself,
so remember big backs like Beny Wells, Ted Ginn Jr.
You know, they had a squad, but where did they play?
They came down to New Orleans.
Is it home cooking or is it just,
hey, we're going to ball out for our people?
Did it feel like a home game? Every time, bro bro it is home. It's an hour down the road
So if you got to see the Tigers in New Orleans, good luck. Now would you take the
Would you guys take the Mississippi River or would you take a bus?
Because you could take the river from Baton Rouge all the way down bro to New Orleans
That'd be real festive That'd be real festive we're real festive world the
budget you imagine did you imagine a steamboat you guys are on that'd be
fucking hard go LSU Tigers on the fucking steamboat coming down coming off
the boat bro like a bunch of Vikings or something I just say it I think that's
what they should do.
Like a Vikings.
Hey, look, that would be kind of tight.
A Southern Viking, but we just ride in by boat
to any of the home games, close, close.
That'd be intimidating if I was a Northern team
and I saw a fucking steam, a river boat, steam boat,
whatever they call them,
fucking like with a casino on there,
coming with a whole bunch of crazy dudes.
Let Mike run off the boat first.
With trumpets and shit,
and a bunch of beads coming
everywhere, that would fucking intimidate me.
I think you guys need to do it.
Could y'all tell this guy just left Mardi Gras
on New Orleans for the Super Bowl?
Do you mean, dude, nah, dude.
Did he get a taste of the sound?
You know what, I went to Louis Armstrong Park.
Get him, no big deal.
Fucking, I'd walk through that bitch.
That shit was sick.
I took a couple pictures of statues, me and Louie.
Oh, my God. Look, Jules.
Classic, classic.
I don't even know what to say right now.
I can't even.
It was awesome looking back at that 07 LSU season because, yeah,
it was a two loss championship game, but the championship team.
But those two losses, triple overtime against Arkansas and then against Kentucky were some wild games that are totally in like games with names level
memorable moments, yes
It's a I'd not you say that the the Kentucky game where we went up there
I remember that being the prettiest grass I'd ever seen in my life, bro
But it was like really thick remember how Bill told us in London,
bring your spikes?
I got benched that game by the way
for not having my spikes,
but when I went to Kentucky,
it really was this thick grass.
Kentucky blue, bubs.
That's what they call it.
It's awesome up there, bro.
The weather was nice, it was crisp,
but we were the big dogs coming in,
never really underestimated anybody.
What year was that?
07.
So that was the year we played them.
I played them and we almost beat them.
Yeah.
Yeah. I went, I went crazy.
We went to Kent State, went to Kentucky.
I think we were tied up half time.
And then they blew the brakes off us
at the end of the game.
Wasn't Randall Cobb, was that when Randall Cobb was up there?
Randall Cobb was there and they had the tall,
number 14, who was the tall?
Woodson, the quarterback.
Yeah.
Jules, I love that almost beating them is 56 to 20.
No, but we were tied at halftime.
For Kent State, for Kent State.
Hey, we were tied at halftime, bro.
Good fight.
Or were we up at halftime?
But they were-
I made them look silly.
14, 14 and a half.
That was huge.
We went up 14-0, I think.
Were you ballin'?
I was ballin'.
No, you didn't. No. You went 7-0 and then they scored. Then they went up 14-0 I think. Were you ballin'? I was ballin'. Come on. No you didn't.
No.
You went 7-0 and then they scored,
then they went up 14-7 and then you tied it late.
Hey, I mean that's resilient, that's called answering,
that's building the lead, that's just a young,
K, we ran out of bodies, bro.
Hey, y'all went deep enough, huh?
Jules' stat line, 12 for 28 for 129 yards,
touchdown and interception.
What was my rushing? 24 attempts, 135.
There you go.
He's getting active on the wheels, Bubs.
Active.
See what I'm talking about.
Hey, I didn't even know this cat played quarterback
until I got to talk to him a little bit,
but hey, can't take it from him.
Can't take it from him, he's going to get it done
one way or the other.
It don't matter if it's special teams,
receiver, quarterback, it's like give the j going to get it done one way or the other. It don't matter if it's special teams, receiver, quarterback.
Say give the joker the ball, let him do what he does.
You're a hunter.
We're talking about Louisiana.
You love the fucking outdoor shit.
Do you ever hunt with Matt Light?
I have not hunted with Matt Light yet.
Me and Matt had talked about it a million times.
You went to the shootouts, right?
I went to his deal that he has up in Rhode Island.
Yeah, the shootout, Matt Light shootout.
Made it one time. he had freaking army tanks
and all kind of crazy stuff there.
I got to get on the books with Matty Light.
You got it, he's having something come up soon for,
I mean, Matt raises money for everything.
But it's something for the Matlai Foundation.
Were you there when we found out
he was hunting on the property?
No, but I did see that video.
And as a true hunter at heart, he's brilliant.
Cause animals always find less pressured areas,
meaning they're gonna go where they're not
gonna be shot at.
So of course they're gonna camp out around the stadium
where they think nobody's gonna kill them
and a real killer like Matt Light's like,
uh, I know there's something in here.
So hey, I tip my hat to Matty Ikes for that.
Cause, hey bros, somebody's gotta get it done.
What are your thoughts on the Vrebel hire?
Man, Vrebel coming back, I look at it man, former player.
Just say with Mayo, you know, Mayo got his one year in,
but I just always pull for any coach that was a former
player, especially if it's a New England, you know what I mean?
So Vrabel did his thing down in Tennessee.
He had a little stint there,
and I think he ran a good program.
But for the organization and this rebuilding phase
that we're in, nobody likes to say it, but it's the reality.
We're in a rebuilding stage.
Our time there in the dynasty is definitely dead and gone.
And so when you look at Vrabrile and him coming in,
I'm not shocked by the hire at all.
I think that they're gonna try to piece together
a few old names that are familiar
and then probably get some new juice in there as well.
But I think overall, it is what it is, man.
It's a tough business to be in.
You never played with Rabe's, neither did I.
But what do you remember hearing about Rabe's legend
in the locker room?
Did you ever hear about him anytime in the locker room
or the facility?
The little bit I heard about him,
I heard that he really was not a man
that gave too many fucks about anything.
He was kind of outspoken.
Like he was a challenger, he challenged guys.
Yeah, I've heard that about him
I've only met him like once or twice, but I heard he was just that that attitude that you need in the locker room
You know what I mean? That was that was him so I got worked you but and if you didn't work to his like I remember
Hearing that shit. I think it's a great hire. I feel bad for Mayo. Of course, man
But you know with all that said
variables brought a team in Nashville to a one seed
with Tannahill as the starting quarterback.
Come on, bro.
It's a championship game.
I know they had a generational running back
with Derrick Henry, but.
The key, yeah.
Like, that's still, they were one seed.
Let's talk about running a program.
You know, hey look, this, and go back, I gotta.
You got a resume. I gotta give it to Mayo.
That's his first year in, so I hope he doesn't count himself out, I hope nobody else in the
league counts himself out, but that's his first swing at it.
Variable has run a program, you know what I mean?
So when you look at that, it's like you can't discredit anybody's body of work, and he's
got a good body of work.
So he's familiar with the Pats. He's loved by the-
I like him with Mickey D's too.
Cause Mickey D's is back.
Josh McDaniels.
Gucci, I call him Gucci.
Mickey D's, Gucci man.
I call him Gucci cause that Gucci loved to hand me the ball
every now and then.
If it was up to Tom and Jules and the big fella grunt,
guess what?
They're going to spin that bitch out there 80 times a game.
Every now and then, Coach McDaniels sprinkle in
a few runs for the kids. So I love you, Coach McDaniel's sprinkling a few runs for the kids.
So, hey, I love you, Coach McDaniels.
I love you, Josh.
Swear I do.
What about Matty P going to Ohio State, D.C.?
Just, hey, you just told me the news.
I didn't know that.
We just saw Matty P here a few weeks ago.
I know.
So, that's dope.
Matty P is defensive guru, man.
I'm happy for him. Heck yeah.
You gotta get some good media.
Everyone hates on him too much.
He's a fall guy for a lot of shit, I think.
On Matty P?
Yeah.
Matty P, I wasn't on the defensive side of the ball.
We weren't on that side of the ball,
so we might not have seen that side of the coach.
The fans be getting on him.
Matty P knows football.
Yeah, he does do that.
And he's got like a photographic memory.
So like, that means he can remember all the situations he's been in. Yeah, he does do that. Now he definitely. And he's got like a photographic memory. So like, that means he can remember
all the situations he's been in.
Yeah, yeah.
He's a nerd.
And defense is his shit.
I mean, let's be real.
I mean, he's a hell of a decoy.
I just don't understand how a lot of people,
like a lot of people hate on him.
He's jumped on a lot of grenades too.
And you know, not doing well in Detroit,
people didn't like that.
And then the narrative built.
Yeah, I know.
People are dumb.
That, I mean, I guess, but.
The outsiders always got something to say,
Gats, we know that.
Yeah.
They really do and I think everybody,
you know, this coaching world is tough.
You know, I see so many players that are jumping into it
and they want to run with it and do it.
And hey, just cause you know ball doesn't mean
that you're necessarily a leader of men, you know?
And that's what you got to look at with a coach.
You know, you got all, not only just have your football IQ up there,
you got to be able to lead guys, motivate guys,
know how to hit that switch when they're back off.
You know, it requires a lot.
So I look at Matty P.
Matty P's been coaching for how long?
Probably as long as I've been alive.
So he's more than qualified.
No, I don't think that long.
20 years?
You're 28?
No, I'm not that young, bro.
What did you say?
He's probably been coaching as long as I've been alive.
That was sarcasm, but I'm just saying.
Like he's been coaching a long time.
Would you say he's been coaching 20 years?
I was about to say 28, like, 35 years.
He's been coaching 35 years.
Has he?
I don't know, how old, you're 35?
I'm 30, I just turned 36.
36?
Close enough. Close enough.
Yeah, I'm just doing math.
That's the Matty P thing to do.
I'm doing the math.
Checking you.
So I think, that's fair, but I think Ohio State,
they got a hell of a hire, bro.
I mean, on the highest level,
you look at the time that we were in New England
and he was calling the shots, our defense was strong, bro.
Look at that, let's just talk about
his defenses a little bit.
Look at that linebacker core that we had to bang it out with
every day with Brandon Spikes and Jamie Collins and
Dante Hightower and Rob Ninkovic, you know what I mean?
Big V in the middle, Devin McCourty, Patrick Chung.
I mean, it's like, does he know talent?
I think so.
I mean, so get him on a college level.
Let's see what he can do with some kids that are trying to
come on up, you know what I mean?
So good for Matty P, man.
Congratulations.
Heck yeah.
I mean, Chip Kelly, one year offensive coordinator, now is the offensive coordinator for the Raiders.
So Ohio State's a pipeline.
You bounce around, bro.
Ohio State really is like stepping map for guys like to get there.
It's the new Alabama.
The new Nick Saban.
Yeah.
And then Herb, wasn't Herb there before he went back to it?
Before he went back to Jacksonville, Irving Meyer?
Yeah.
He was up there for a little bit
and he jumped to Jacksonville after that.
So you're right, it's kind of like a pipeline.
Funneling coach.
Pipeline.
Yep.
We spent some crazy times in Foxboro.
You gotta, I heard when you heard you were coming on,
you got a little checklist of things you wanna go over.
What do you got?
Bring out the list. Bring it, let me see the list.
Man, let me see what we got, man. Y'all got the list? You got it here, can you see it? I can also...
No, he got it. Rid wrote it down. He put it on a notes app. Which I have, I have a
notes app that I put a password to and I don't know how to find the password. I'm
never gonna be able to get the notes. And I need these notes. All right, well. I can't, I-
Have you tried squirrel 11?
Yeah.
I don't know, dude.
I've put in all the,
I can't remember what state of mind I was when I did this.
Locked yourself out, bro?
I'm locked out.
I need the fucking info.
I feel like the guy from Bitcoin.
He's way worse than you, bro, with that deal.
God.
Hey.
Dog, that was funny as hell. We'll see this list, what do we got?
We pulled up a list, man.
I had my best friend, man, marketing agent.
You didn't see Red without Moose.
Moose has been around since day one.
If y'all know any of Jules' best buds, man,
me and Moose have been rocking since college, bro.
We came to the first college class together at LSU.
He's from Ruston, Louisiana.
Ethiopian.
Yes, well, no, Eritrean.
Eritrean, but I thought he eats, it's the same.
It's close.
Close enough, close enough.
East Africa.
I mean, he's freaking as good as gold, bro.
But Moose sent me some stuff.
He's like, Red, you going to the episode?
He was like.
And Moose got some stew and some of that,
that sourdough.
It's like a sourdough-
He put that seasoning in that gumbo is what he did.
Yeah, no, no.
We're talking about Ethiopian style food.
Oh, oh yeah.
Cause we just went to his wedding.
It's like a stew and you have like a sourdough-
The bread.
Pita.
The bread.
Yeah, it's like, it's not pita, but it's really good.
I got it, I got it. It pita, but it's really good.
I got it, I got it.
It's delicious.
It's called injera.
Injera.
Yes.
Remember when we had that?
His wedding was cool.
They had like traditional like Ethiopian.
Did a little dance.
We did dancing and shit.
Came out in the.
All his family members were all in like traditional African stuff.
It was crazy.
It was crazy and
Beautiful at the top of freaking New York City somewhere. Hey my boy. You came a long way I gotta go ahead and give you a shot in long way came a long way for russ in Louisiana and
Moose and me have been hand-in-hand every step of the way since I first talked to Jules
He's been around but he just sent me some little pointers that we're gonna have to talk about because he was like y'all talking about
What game and he was like
man make sure y'all throw this in because me and Jules got more stories
probably off the field than we do on the field but uh hey we got we got some time
to get into that. Oh my god. When we go to the list man I guess we'll start with how
Bill put me at Fat Camp you know like when I was overweight coming in as a
running back and do you want me to go ahead and elaborate on that story?
When he started?
When he went in his back cam.
Man.
Was it heavyweights?
Man.
Did he bring in Ben Stiller, Tony Perkins?
Bro, it was one of those deals.
Billichek says Tony Perkins right now?
Man, you get to New England
and of course you're going in there
and it's Bill Belichick.
Bill's intimidating, bro.
Like you gotta give it to him, man.
Like he's, he knows what he's doing.
He's got a system in place and you don't mess with him.
You know what I mean?
You just don't.
You respect him.
You're in the presence of one of the greatest to ever do it.
If not the greatest coach to ever do it.
I'm gonna give him his, man.
He is.
Cause I play for a lot of ball coaches,
but you know, you have that meeting where you come in there
and you're a rookie, he gives you your playing weight,
and he brought me into the office
because I go to the weight room and Coach Nash,
hop on the scale, Ridley, and I hopped on the scale.
How much was it?
And I'm leaving.
How much was it?
Even back in the roots, about 235, 238, somewhere in that.
What year is this, rookie year?
It's my rookie year, so. You came in, 238, somewhere in that. What year is this, rookie year? It's my rookie year.
So.
You came in at 238?
Came in, I played at LSU around 230.
You know what I mean, like as a running back.
But eight pounds is eight pounds.
Eight pounds is a lot, bro.
Eight pounds is a lot, and you wait till the story
gets going, cause y'all don't understand.
What's the weight, what's the weight?
So, Nash gets in there coaching Nash,
he's our string coach, and he's like,
Ridley, hop on the scales.
I hop on the scale, and I think I was tipping that thing
at between 235, 240, SEC running back between the tackles.
I'm a big bat.
Hey, I obviously did something right,
because coach, you drafted me, you like what you saw.
Nash is like, Ridley, you got some work to do.
I'm like, all right, you know, I ain't scared of work.
Coach said you got to be at 220.
I said 220? How? I said, Nash, you're tripping. I thought you were tripping, bro. I said, nah.
He said, don't ask me. I'm just telling you what the boss man said. And I said, well,
which boss man we talking about? He said, you can go see the head man if you want to.
There I went. You know what I mean? Like, what's the problem?
I gotta go talk to coach and see what's up, because.
The reason.
So, you went from weight room.
Yeah.
You took that long ass walk down those hallways.
To that entry door.
And you saw Bearish.
Crossed Bearish's office.
I said, Bearish, is coach available?
And I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.
I might've been getting off to, on the wrong foot with Bill Belichick
Because here I am as a rookie walking into his office trying to tell him what my playing weight would be but what do I know?
I'm a rookie guys. You know what I mean? I'm just coming in like coach. Come on. So Nash is telling me I'm 235 on a light day
240 if I finish leaving the breakfast buffet,
eat my bacon and omelets and grits that I get every day.
So he's like, we want you at 2.20 by a certain day.
I can't even remember what he said.
So I was like, man, that's impossible.
I was like, there's no way I'm gonna be able to do that.
So I walked back, I said, all right, Coach Dash,
I'm heading on up to go talk to Bill to see what's up,
see if I can kind of work this out.
You thought you were going in there to negotiate a pounds go talk to coach. I hear any couple coach
You give me to 228. Hey anything we beat it
Can we meet in the middle and y'all when I tell y'all coach is so paint the picture you walk in
What's where's he is? He had his desk at his computer
Okay, so I leave I leave our weight room
Walk through the locker room go by our meeting room go down the hallway and of course, I'm not really as
Scared or cuz you don't know yet. I don't know yet. That's what I'm saying. Like I'm not as naive. I'm naive
thinks he can go talk to Bill. Go talk to Bill, you know, like, can I not go talk to him?
What an idiot.
Hey, it truly, when I look back on things now.
If I was walking by you in the hallway as a second year
or third year guy, I was just like, what a dumbass.
Oh.
I see you pass bears.
So I come down the hallway, and you're saying all this to say,
I have seen, I want to get too far off track,
but I've seen rookies, y'all, like on my back end,
because I was there for four years.
I've seen rookies come in and see Bill
coming down the hallway, and they would literally
just bust a left or right into a random meeting room.
Because they don't want to look this man in his eyes, bro.
Like, Bill comes down the hallway, I'm not making this up.
Cut sweatshirt, hoodie on, looks like he's been
in his office for three days, his car hadn't moved, like,
people are like, freaked out, you know what I mean?
So, I didn't know what to do.
I walked down there and I'm like,
hey, Bearish, you can't get to Bill
without going through Bearish.
But if you make that right into that office,
you better have a damn good reason to go in there.
And I had a damn good reason that day, Coach,
because I can't drop all this weight how you
get trying to get me to drop it let me show y'all how much he cared I walked in
I said coach is he's at his death he's at his desk he's sitting at his desk
behind his decks I said coach could come in and sit down he said yeah Red come on
in sit down okay did he say you were coming or is he blindsided he was
blindsided okay he's blindsided Bears let me in you know Bears check said you know Stevens here to talk to you did you tell Bears why you were coming or was he blindsided? He was blindsided. Okay. He was blindsided. Bears let me in, you know, Bears check said,
you know, Steven's here to talk to you.
Did you tell Bears why you were talking to him?
I can't really remember those details, but I definitely did.
What did Bear, did Jason, did he just go, sure.
Bears looked at me, I guess I walked in,
I was like, Bears, is Coach available?
And he kind of looked up.
And I was like, I just need to talk to him real quick.
I guess nothing.
So Bill's sent you down. And when I walk in there, Bill's sitting behind his desk, and he's like, come just need to talk to him real quick. So Bill's sits you down.
And when I walk in there, Bill's sitting behind his desk
and he's like, come on in and sit down.
So I walked in and sat down.
He's like, what you got, Rih?
So coach, I need to talk to you about this weight.
I was like, I just weighed in, you know,
and coach Nash told me at the weight that you have told him
that you want me to play at,
and I'm just making sure this is the right weight.
And this is not a mistake.
Like, and he said, what's the number?
I can't really remember what I had.
And I said, well, the number is you could have gone right there.
You if if you wanted to make the decision, you could have said to 25
because if you if he didn't remember the weight, maybe he would have agreed at 225.
All right, you messed up, go ahead.
I should have had a better negotiation tactic
as to what Jules said, but I'm just in there trying
not to die and starve myself out at this rate.
So I go in and I say, well, coach,
this weight that you want me at, I said,
coach Nash said you want me at 220.
And I said, that's impossible. So I'm just telling you right now, I don't know what it is. And I said, I don't know how you want me at 220? And I said, that's impossible.
So I'm just telling you right now,
I don't know what it is.
And I said, I don't know how you want me to get there.
I said, I'll bust my ass and do whatever,
but I'm like 220.
I said, can I just tell you a little bit about me?
And like, like he doesn't already know you drafted me.
The Patriots investigate everybody.
They know everything about you before
they even get you in the building.
So I said, coach.
What did he say when can I tell you about me?
I said, can I tell you about me?
And he was like, sure.
You know, he's just dry.
You know, he's not gonna do much.
I pulled out my driver's license.
And I pulled out my driver's license.
It's a true story.
I pulled out my driver's license.
I said, coach.
Coach C, look at, look, 240.
I just want to show you this.
I said, coach, and I promise it's a true story.
I said, I just want to tell you,
if you could look at my driver's license,
I slid it on his desk.
I'm bold as a rookie.
He's like, who's this clown?
You know what I mean?
I said, these numbers that are on my driver's license
from when I got my permit in high school
before I even got a driver's license, my permit,
and on my permit at 15 and a half years old,
I was 5'11", 220 pounds.
That's how much I weighed in high school.
So I said, coach, you mean to tell me
that you want me to drop from 238 all the way down to 220?
And he looked at me and he said, kinda smacked those lips.
Well, Red,
I mean, really, I think it's only about $563 per pound per day that you're overweight.
So it's really up to you.
And I said, what?
I'm like, what do you mean?
He was like, per pound per day.
And he doubled down on it.
I was like, I can do quick math, bro. I I'm third round draft pick I ain't got money like that so
fat camp I went you know what I mean I'm like screw it coach you know I mean if
that's how we're gonna go about it there's nothing I can do. So what's
fat camp entail? So fat camp consisted of me coming in once I had to drop from 238 to my weight when I was 15 years old of 220,
it required me changing my diet with our beautiful nutrition Ted first. Ted put me on this strict
diet. I had to come in the fat camp which was running before practice so we had to come in and
even do our workout what like before practice in the mornings or we come in and even do our workout what? Like before practice, in the mornings,
or we had to go and do our workout after practice
once we got off the field.
I was always an early riser,
so I came in early in the morning.
So, fat camp, I was basically in there
with all the guys who were overweight
that were trying to cut weight.
So, I would have to go in every morning,
and I'm talking about, it's still dark outside,
5 a.m., and just hit the treadmill and run.
And so, that was the first time that I really,
I think the structure, and I look back on it,
I'm like that structure and that discipline,
it made me a good pro because I legit dropped this weight
for the simple fact that I was not gonna give up my money.
And let's do the math, if I'm 238 and the weight is 220,
let's do that times 563 bucks times 18 per day,
like my paychecks are gonna be pretty thin.
You know, the Massachusetts state taxes
weren't too forgiving, you know what I mean?
I don't need to be giving away any extra.
8.3 now, 6.8, it used to be in the end
of some new shit.
Something crazy.
So I got on board with the program,
and Coach didn't really like yell at me
or nothing like that, but I don't know
if I kind of rubbed him the wrong way from jump,
but it was just like one of those deals, it shook me up as a rook. I'm like,
how in the hell am I about to drop 20 pounds or 25 pounds and you want me to run between
the tackle, bang it out with the Brandon spikes of the worlds and the Gerard males of the
world linebackers at 255.
Were you, were you, were you better at 220?
Quick as a cat. Freaking nasty, dude.
Like, once I got to that plan, wait, I'm like,
hey, you know, Bill knows what the hell he's talking about.
Who else was at Fat Camp with you?
I think Big Marcus Cannon was in there earlier.
Cannon used to cheat the fucking scale.
Remember that?
One time, Marcus Cannon, he used to have to weigh in
all the time, he was always in fat camp.
He was in fat bro.
He was a big boy though.
Probation all the time.
Shoot.
And he would go in and he would do it with a towel on,
his weight, and then he'd have a pencil right like here
so he could leverage himself up.
Lean.
Huh? Lean on it? Yes, he could lean on it could leverage himself up. Lean. Huh?
Lean on it?
Yes, he could lean on it and lift it up
and he would fucking make it,
they caught him like three times.
Cannon used to have to,
he was in fat camp like his whole career.
It's a grind bro because people don't really realize,
it's like man, once coach sets this,
you know coach had to start coaching.
It never goes up either.
No, that is your weight.
So my four years in New England, I played at 220,
but bro, I never was like a top end guy.
I never had like breakaway speed,
so I always prided myself on living by five yards a carry.
Like if I get five yards every time I touch this pill
that's halfway to a first down,
I can bang it out with whoever.
DB, safeties, I used to hit those motherfuckers
like speed bumps, bro, like I wasn't even worried about,
I was just downhill with it, but once you got to the league
and you had to lose that weight, you know,
you became more of a pro, you know what I mean?
So Bill went back and after we didn't get the negotiation
the first time, I think it was about halfway
through the season, I'm like, coach,
can I get a couple pounds, give me a little bit here or there,
he still didn't lighten up, but it I'm like, Coach, can I get a couple pounds? Give me a little bit here or there. He still didn't lighten up.
But it was just like, I learned to respect that, bro,
don't question, just do.
You know what I mean?
Because it made me a hell of a running back.
It really did.
And I would have never been there,
I never even thought about playing that light
because I didn't think I had the pop behind my pads
to be a first and second down back
and a short yardage back like I was.
But I was wrong.
I can say that.
He's probably at that point in his career
seen about a thousand of you.
Yes, yes, and that was the weight that he wanted to make.
He's seen the Herschel, he's seen them all.
Seen them all, bro, so he wasn't worried
about what I thought, you know.
Shut up, Red and get on the field.
We had to bleep a story from Behrs
that he didn't want out there.
Can you talk about this story that I think you,
the gun story?
What did we call this story?
I'm a murderer story.
Okay.
This is how this goes down there.
As y'all can see on my hat, man, I'm a hunter, dude. Through and through.
Much as I love ball, I love killing greenheads.
Your Instagram is a dead duck museum.
It is a dead duck museum.
Shout out 247 Hunt.
That's my guys, man.
I found my family outside of my football family with my homies. I gotta
you love the Second Amendment. I gotta have it. I gotta have it. Like I am a
patriot to the heart. What do you mean? My Second Amendment right? So give me my
guns. Give me my suppressors. Give me my thermals. I love to hunt hogs at night. I
love to shoot green heads in the swamp.
It's just what we do.
You know what I mean?
I'm from Mississippi, born on the Mississippi River
and there's nothing to do out there but hunt, fish,
play ball, race some cars, race some bikes,
do some stuff that's gonna be fun
because there is no city.
We're in the sticks, so you gotta have it.
But going back to this story,
my other best friend, Moose is my road dog,
my other roommate in college,
his name is Jared Ely, and he's from my hometown.
And his uncle is a Zydeco legend.
Zydeco music is a music that is played in the South.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know the exact details,
but it's just kind of a mix of country.
Creole, African American style music, rhythm and blues.
Love this guy, because you're looking out for me.
But Zydeco is very rich in the rodeo community
of the South.
And so my buddy's family, my first four years in the league,
I think they had this Zydeco festival
going on in our hometown.
And so when Zydeco would come around, bro,
you would have lines down the hallway
of people bringing in their horse trailers,
bringing in their buggies, they had a drag strip set up,
they had a rodeo ring, and Rid was the big dog
coming back to the hometown.
I'm rolling in with freaking all the quads on the trailer,
big lifted trucks, you know, I'm coming in,
the homies are stepping out.
Somebody told me the other day, they said,
man, really, I'll never forget when you pulled up to Zydeco,
you had about eight bikes on the trailer,
and I'm just wondering, where the fuck are all the riders at?
Like, I have more toys than just shit,
because I was a country kid that had made it.
What else do you expect from somebody from the South?
So, we- How somebody from the South?
How lifted was the truck? Oh bro, we're up there. We're probably eight or ten inches
riding on 40s, 24s on 40s. I'm gonna say this, I was the first person, you're gonna make
me tap into my roots bro, but I was the first person to drop a Dodge Cummins
engine in a Ford F-250 and then put an Allison transmission in the power train.
That's when you know your country.
So I'm throwing Dodge into Ford and Ford into Dodge.
Mixed all three of them,
I got the best of both worlds, of all three worlds.
But back to the I'm a murderer story.
We pull up to Zydeco and we pulled up to Zydeco,
like I say, it's a bunch of country folks,
rodeoing, riding bikes.
What else do y'all think is out there?
Guns, of course.
So as people are going into the Zydeco,
we've already parked and set up our deal.
My buddy got a new pistol.
My buddy Jared got a new pistol.
He's the one that's running the festival.
In his backyard, we're sitting in his backyard,
he has some targets set up where he sights in his rifle,
sights in his pistols, whatever it is.
This is legal?
100% legal.
We're out of the city limits.
In Mississippi, as long as you're out of the city limits,
you can blaze like freaking Yosickity Sam.
I mean, it's like whatever you want to do.
But we have the targets set up.
And of course, Moose is filming and catching this
because me and my partner are sitting there side by side,
earmuffs on, shooting the targets.
And I put a Rick Ross song,
because I've been playing with the social media
way too long, long enough to get me in trouble,
but I put a Rick Ross song behind the black coffins.
And the name of the song was 100 Black Coffins.
And it's by Rick Ross, and I put it in black and white.
So it was like in this slow mo,
and you just see me and my buddy up here
shooting these targets, and I literally just unloaded.
Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow.
And probably missed a target every time,
but I caught the video and I posted it on my social media.
No big deal, until Bears rings my damn phone.
And I'm like, this has never happened before,
and why is he calling me?
So Bears calls me and says.
You have him saved in the phone or is it just random?
Bears Nigerian, I don't know if I pronounced
that the right way, Bill's secretary.
Is whatever was in my phone, it's still in there right now.
So when I saw this name come across my phone,
my heart just hit my stomach and I'm like, this ain't good.
How long after the post?
30 minutes.
It was like no time.
Like I said, hey, the page got like the FBI, bro.
They don't miss nothing, okay?
So he called me and I answered the phone, I'm like, hello?
He said, Ridd.
I said, what's up, Beers?
He says, Coach wants to speak with you.
Like, all right.
So I sat on the phone, Bill gets on the phone,
and I guess he hops on, I was like, hello?
And Coach says, Ridd.
I say, I'm gonna have to edit this,
because my mom's gonna punch me in the face
for using this language, but you know,
Bill loved them F-bombs. Coach goes, Red, just what the fuck are you doing?
And I'm like, what you mean coach? The freaking post that you just put up there
really think about it man. You're unloading a freaking pistol on a video on your socials. I mean
we just had a guy arrested give me a fucking break. I said damn Coach like I wasn't even
thinking about it that way you know I'm just back home chilling with the boys shooting targets
better yet just don't even bring your ass back up here.
I was like, whoa, did I just get cut?
Like, how does this go down?
So I looked at my boy and I'm like,
oh, I don't know if I got fired or not.
Like what's going on?
So Bill hung up the phone or we kind of had some choice words.
No, before he hung up the phone,
we're gonna cut this part, but I got to continue the story.
So y'all just choose if y'all wanna say it or not.
But when he told me, he's like,
just don't even bring your ass back up here.
I'm like, oh wow.
So automatically I went into, coach,
I have the utmost respect for you.
I did not know that I had messed up that bad.
I said, there's targets in the background.
We weren't doing anything wrong.
I said, you're comparing me to a murderer because I'm shooting targets in the background. We weren't doing anything wrong. I said, you're comparing me to a murderer
because I'm shooting targets in the backyard.
I said, but either way, I hear you.
I will not be back there.
And I'm gonna let you know this.
My faith is in God and upstairs.
I said, this is not the end of my career.
If I am cut, I hung up the phone.
It was probably a dumb move to do that.
But-
You hung up on Bill Belichick.
I hung up, bro, because I was blown away.
You just called me a freaking murderer
because I'm shooting at targets in the backyard.
This is what we do on a regular, bro.
This is life.
So I hung up and probably wasn't the smartest thing to do.
And within, I would say, 30 to an hour,
I got another phone call and it was Bill.
And he says, you know what, better yet,
when you come here, do not even stop at my office.
He says, you go straight upstairs and see Robert.
I'm like, Robert, Robert, Mr. Krabs?
I'm like, oh my God, bro.
Like I'm like, I don't know, I don't know what,
like I don't know how this goes,
because Bill, whether y'all know it or not,
Bill moves the needle on everything around there.
He's making all the calls.
So him to push me to the big dog,
I'm like, bro, I'll just stay in Mississippi.
Hey, bro, I'll take the first option.
How about that?
Let me just stay right here where you told me to stay.
So, man, I called Moose.
I'm like, Moose, bro, let me, I said, guess what?
So I told him, Moose was like,
I told you not to post that video,
re-duh-duh-duh-duh, I'm like, what are you talking about?
I'm like, either way, he told me don't even come back,
and then he told me to go see Mr. Kraft.
Like, bro, what the hell am I gonna do?
Like, I don't know what's gonna go down.
So, few weeks went by, we had to come on in
for camp and stuff, and I showed up on the first day
and I did like Coach said, it's simple instructions.
I just took my ass on up the stairs.
Where's Mr. Craft's office?
Scared to death, man.
Heart beating, I didn't know what to expect
so I walk on in and I'm on eggshells
and first time going to Mr. Craft's office,
he's got like all this patron memorabilia,
paper stacked up here on the desk,
and he's like the most soft-spoken nice guy ever.
And I'm like, am I about to see his dark side?
Like what is, what is this, what's gonna happen?
So I'm walking.
So you sit down and Mr. Craft's at the desk.
Bro, I come in, I'm sitting on the desk, bro,
and I'm sweating.
Does he like, when you come in,
does someone tell him that you're coming in?
Mr. Kraft, Steven's here.
I don't remember that part.
Did he, did he have glasses on and raise his head up to you
and pull his glasses down a little?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He met me at the door,
and I kind of remember that slow motion walk in there.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't know if this is gonna be
my last walk in Patriot Stadium.
Is this going to be like a little talk?
Am I going to be suspended?
But I'm just walking in there
and the whole time my back's to him, I'm like,
I don't even know what I'm going to say.
Like, so I'm just coming in,
I don't even know where to sit.
So he walks around his desk, he's like, come on in.
Take a seat.
You know, super nice.
And I just sit down and I'm like, how are you Mr. Graff?
He was like, I'm okay, I'm okay, how are you?
And I'm like, in trouble.
Obviously, I done messed up.
He was like, look, and he kind of looked at me,
and he looked over at the door, and he got up again,
and went over and made sure the door was closed.
And I'm like, oh shit.
I'm just like literally sliding down in my seat.
I'm like, bro, you blew it.
You straight up blew it.
He says, look, Stephen, we love you here.
Said you're a great patriot.
Says you're a good kid.
He was like, sometimes Bill can be a little bit harsh.
And my heart just starts like, hell yeah. sometimes Bill can be a little bit harsh.
And my heart just starts like, hell yeah. That's me.
Yeah.
Bill can be a little bit hard.
I'm like, yeah.
And I'm not saying too much,
but in my mind I'm like, yeah he can be,
but I'm not trying to piss him off or step on their toes.
And he's like, let me tell you a little story.
Like story time, cool.
So at least I'm not, pack up your shit and get out of here.
Like I at least, I'm holding on.
So he was like, I'm gonna tell you about a time
that my family was born and raised in the Northeast,
but I had a daughter, I can't remember exactly what he said,
y'all, because I was scared out of my mind.
He's like, I had a daughter that was dating a guy
or either married a guy from the South. And he said, it was the, because I was scared out of my mind, he said, I had a daughter that was dating a guy or either married a guy from the South.
And he said, it was the wildest thing to me.
And he's just talking so slow.
And I'm like, get to the point.
Am I cut? Am I fired? Am I saved?
Like, what's, well, I had this daughter and, you know,
I went down to visit her significant other's family
and we went to church together.
After church, Everybody left church and
came back to the house and they cooked food and they're hanging out just like
country folks do. Like that's what we do. Every Sunday it's like you're going to
the Lord's house first, you're gonna eat some good grub and you're gonna spend time
with the family. And this was his first time I guess to Texas. So he was saying
how he got there, they went to church, they ate food, and he said the
next thing I know, he says, I look up and I see the little kids on the back porch
and he says, Stephen they all have guns. It blew my mind to see these little kids
actually doing what they were doing. Comfortable with firearms, they weren't
hurting anybody, but he was like, it's just the difference of the culture.
I'm like, preach Mr. Craft, yes.
He's like, so Bill might not necessarily understand
what's going on and where you're from,
but you have to be aware of the time
and the pressure that the team is under.
And he's like, I think that's what Bill
was trying to tell you.
And I said, maybe so.
I hope so. I'm not cut. I'm not fired yet. So he said, well, here's what I'm going to tell you.
You make sure when you go back down there, you go see coach, because he told you to come straight
and see me, right? And I said, yes, sir. And I said, that's exactly what I did.
He says, you make sure you go right back to coach
and tell him that I got on you hard.
I was like, what?
I got the pass, I'm good.
He's like, tell him I got on you hard.
And he said, this is between us.
He was like, I know you didn't mean bad,
but he was like, the team is really
under a microscope right now. And he broke it down like that grandpa, you know you didn't mean bad, but he was like, the team is really under a microscope right now.
And he broke it down like that grandpa,
you know what I mean?
And just kind of comforted me because I did,
I messed up, you know what I mean?
Like we had the team and everything
that was going on with Chico,
it's like we had this negative light on us.
And me being young and dumb,
I'm out there shooting guns in the backyard
and an older Steven Ridley now looking back,
I'm like, like Jules Stadler,
like how dumb can you really be?
You know what I mean?
Like it's just, but with age comes maturity.
You know what I'm saying?
And so when I look at it, I was like, oh shit.
You know, like I really did almost messed it all up.
So when I went back to Bill, I went back to coach
and said, coach, apologize first.
I walked in there again, I'm sorry.
Didn't mean to do anything.
I just went up there and talked to Mr. Kraff.
He gave me his two sits.
I understand where y'all are coming from.
Whatever my punishment is, it's my punishment.
Conduct detrimental.
Big fine, you know what I mean?
Like, thing was probably what, like 16, 17? It's a game check. Something like that, you know what I mean? It, I think it was probably what, like 16, 17?
Something like that, you know what I mean?
It was a chunk.
It's a game check.
And, you know, Bill hit me with it.
You know, it wasn't gonna be a free off,
but to this day, Bill doesn't know the words
that we exchanged in that office.
But Mr. Craft really just put it in perspective for me
to help me realize, without the F-bombs,
without telling me never to come back to Foxboro.
So it was just to have that dynamic
that I kind of found some middle ground between the two
and I was somewhat safe.
I am forever thankful for, for Mr. Kraft and the organization
because he's, he's the man for that, truly.
Mr. I've had one of those conversations
with Kraft as well.
Scary.
But like you said, his wisdom pours out
and he doesn't, he doesn't, it's not,
he's not there to punish you,
he's there to fix a problem
and help you get through it.
Yes, yes.
That's what I felt.
Yes.
And that's, it sounds like what,
he made you feel comfortable,
he tried to recognize a problem, and then, you know, it's a what he made you feel comfortable. Yes. He tried to recognize a problem
Yes, and then you know, it's a good good good way of going about it
I mean there's good cop bad cop but on a serious question before the video got taken down
How many likes did it have and it was booming?
It was freaking booming like I'm gonna lie cuz hey, you know social media has come a long way
but like it's funny now because bro, I look up and media's come a long way, but it's funny now because, bro,
I look up and Bill's got a Instagram and Facebook
and Tom's got one, bro, they were not even thinking
about this shit back in the day.
It was like a curse.
So I really, I was playing on the gram,
Jules was playing on the gram a little bit.
We were all kind of doing our things,
the young guys were, but for them, that was like the enemy.
Because Bill's typical saying that he told everybody
when you come in, put everything in a drawer.
We don't give the media nothing.
You know what I mean?
We put all of our problems, put all your bullshit aside.
It's about the Patriot organizations, about football.
We don't care if you got deals off the field.
We don't care what you're trying to promote.
Hey bro, if it ain't football and this silver helmet,
I'm not concerned with it.
So it's just crazy to see him now
cause I see him on TV.
He's gotta evolve.
He's gotta evolve.
And he evolved, but I think I was just a little bit too early,
bro, I was too early.
I was causing problems for myself
and didn't even realize it, but I got it that day.
I definitely got it that day that I messed up.
So and shooting guns.
That's what we do.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Let's go back to December 10th, 2012,
and hit the pop culture around the game time.
Number one movie was The Hobbit.
Do you ever see that?
Parts.
It's too long.
Too long.
You're a big Hobbit guy, Kyler, right?
Why, just because I look like the dwarf?
No, you like that kind of stuff.
I like Lord of the Rings movies.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
I didn't like The Hobbit movie.
I shot it in 48.
Well, it's the same.
I know you read the books.
No, I didn't.
I don't read.
I give the illusion that I read, but I don't actually read. Well, the number one song, I know you read the books. No, I didn't I don't read. Oh, that's a soft I give the illusion that I read but I don't actually read well the number one song diamonds by Rihanna
We all remember that I'm bright like a diamond. That was a banger. That was a banger
Is that the Gangman style? Yeah, my daughter still loves that. That's a banger stew the gangman style
We're playing a stadium. They used to go PSY. PSY I think. PSY
by PSY, I think. PSY.
5.4 billion views on YouTube right now.
Back in the gap, or no, today.
Today.
Oh wow.
Yeah, wow.
I think it's the most viewed video on YouTube all time.
Wow.
Silver Linings Playbook, really good movie.
Oh no, no, no.
Bradley Cooper was all over the Super Bowl.
He was at the Super Bowl.
Did you get a Philly cheesesteak from him?
I went to Angelo's in Philly,
which I think he bases his cheesesteak off of.
Okay. Spectacular.
I think it's called, what is it?
The Sharp Cheddar, or Sharp Cooper cheese.
That's the cheese to have.
You had a real Philly cheese?
I haven't. I haven't.
It's fire.
We always made up to Philly, I think, for like pre-season.
You know what I mean?
So I haven't been back just hanging out.
Were you there when Nico Koudavides
took us to the Greek restaurant in Philly?
Uh-uh, uh-uh, but Koudi knew every spot and everybody.
Anywhere, Nico would look for a fucking,
we'd go find one Greek restaurant
and we'd be eating Greek food.
Super Bowl champion in 2012, the Baltimore Ravens.
Damn.
Man. Damn. Natty,s. Damn. Damn.
Natty, Alabama.
Ooh.
So you hate Alabama?
To my heart, bro.
I do not rock with the Crimson and White at all.
I just, I put up with Hightower.
You know what I mean?
But he knows what it is right now to this day.
What's the hate hierarchy for SEC teams from LSU?
Alabama's number one.
Alabama's one.
Alabama is that robbery.
You know what I mean?
Would they say the same about you?
They got to.
What, Auburn?
Auburn.
Come on, Cam Newton's the best thing
to come out of there smoking, dude.
He was a problem.
Speaking from our day, it was always LSU-Bama.
You know what I mean?
And whoever won that game.
So that was a hate.
I would say Bama, number one.
Number two would be, I would say Ole Miss.
Just because it was close,
but that was always a hard fought game.
Ole Miss always played up.
Even if they might not have a shot
to do anything in the conference or whatever,
but they were always going to play us hard.
You know who would have ran all over you?
Who?
At Oak from Oklahoma. the MVP of this year
in the national football league.
MVP, dude.
Adrian Peterson would have ran all over LSU.
He is the GOAT.
That was one of my favorite running backs.
He was a monster.
He was MVP.
This is the last time, I think, a non,
this is the last non-quarterback MVP this year.
Iceman Trophy winner winner Johnny Menzel.
Johnny Johnny football, Johnny football, Johnny Cash.
How do you want to go about it?
What was life like for written 2012 2012 2012?
2012 was my big year, I think, wasn't it?
Yeah, I think that was my second year in the league.
I want to say I ended up I I was top five back that year.
You know, and that's when I kind of.
1263 yards, 12 touchdowns.
We're going crazy.
Not bad.
1263, 12.
We're going crazy, bro.
You know, it was one of those deals that I kind of,
your rookie year is your rookie year,
but that second year when I started getting some real
touches and I felt like I was actually having an impact and they're putting the ball in
your hands and you know you're gonna get get that love it was one of those times
where I just kind of the light bulb went off in my head I had the best quarterback
to ever play the game we got some receivers out here who have a route tree
and Tom will just turn off one side of the field if he likes one look over
there so like it right registered with me then,
nobody gave a shit about me being in the backfield.
You know what I mean?
Like they really didn't.
Versus me coming from LSU where we're two tight ends,
we're a full back, everybody in the stadium
knows we're about to do what?
Run the football.
So like 2012 was that year for me that it all kind of clicked
and I realized that teams are scouting Tom Brady
and our receivers for good cause,
because Tom would light your ass up.
So it was like, if I could do anything in the run game,
it was enough, you know what I mean?
But we had a hell of a run game.
The big boys up front, I think,
had been together for a little while,
because that's when Matt Light was there, my rookie year.
And he retired.
And he retired.
In the shower in the Super Bowl.
Right next to me.
Naked.
So I think that year in 2012, you know, Big Mank,
like that was one of my favorite people ever, Logan Mankins.
Cause Big Mank was like a road grader up front, man.
We had O-line that was just mean, Cannon was young.
It was Ryan Windell.
Wendy. We had Wendy up there.
Had Dan Conley up there.
Nate Solder.
Solder, young Solder.
Yep, so me and Nate came in together,
but 2012 was the year that Kid Rigg
kinda got going in the league, man,
and I knew that I was actually somebody.
So that was a big time for me, man.
When did you feel like you could stick in the NFL?
I'd have to say after 2012 2012 after 2012 man. I really say
That's when I said that I really was a problem, you know Because I knew that we weren't really not gonna say we didn't work on it
But I say Tom was we threw the ball, you know what I mean?
We were past offense so to just come in there and have that kind of success that year
and have somewhat of a balanced offense,
man, I was just so forced to be a part of it
just to be able to be in the same backfield with 12.
You know what I mean?
And for him to take the ball out of his hands
when he can single-handedly change a game or run a game
and hand it off, man, that's a lot.
So I used to mess with Tom and tell him, man,
like hey, on the goal line,
remember he was quarterback sneak down there? I'm like, you're a $200 million man, like hey, on the goal line, he would quarterback sneak down there.
I'm like, you're a $200 million man,
just hand it back here,
let me go ahead and stick that thing in there.
Tom didn't care, he's a competitor, bro.
I just thought, is Logan Mankins in the Hall of Fame?
He should be.
He's not in the Hall of Fame, he should be, right?
He should be, there's no question.
He was probably the best lineman I played with.
He was a dog, man.
Loge was, Wrangler boots,
Platt shirt.
He should be in Hall of Fame.
Hall of Fame's got some problems I gotta work through.
Vin and Terry not getting in.
Luke Keighley, come on, what are we doing here?
Keighley didn't play that long though.
Yeah, but he had a high peak.
And making Antonio Gates wait a way to year to nothing first ballot
They got some stuff to put Erlacher went to a Super Bowl
Did Keakley with a cam? Yeah?
Yeah
The same they're like the same Erlacher Keakley are in that same world bracket
Yeah, a lot of all pros to from Keakley. He shouldley should be in. I would think King was a hell of a player.
He was really good.
Fast.
Side line to side line, dude.
Like every tackle. Smart.
Yes.
Tampa too, he could play, he could cover you a little.
Remember him dropping back in the middle.
I just remember watching that defense,
we watched film on King,
he'd be like 30 yards back in no time off the snap
and coming down smacking folks.
So yeah, he was a baller, but.
What was on your, what was,
you have an eclectic taste of music.
What was the pregame mix for Kid Ridd in 2012?
What was the pregame mix?
Kid Ridd.
Kid Ridd was like the young kid in the locker room
with like the loud freaking price speakers.
He dyed his hair a certain color.
He'd come in with like a diamond backpack on
that he bought in London.
Like what was on the pregame list?
How you gonna leave out the jumpsuits and the onesies, bro?
Jumpsuits, onesies.
And the moon boots?
Come on, man, gimme these.
You hear him from three miles away when he rolls up
because he's got the craziest exhaust system on his car.
What is in the earphones before the game
to get Kid Rigg going?
I brought Louisiana to Foxboro, bro.
We were banging nothing but Boosie.
We were banging that Webby, Big Timers, Future.
I would say back then, Future was hot, bro.
He's brand new.
He was dropping hits, so he was doing-
He's brand new this time. We did a, me and Future was hot, bro. He's brand new. He was dropping hits, so he was doing- He's brand new this time.
Me and Future did a,
we did a Zegna event together.
A what?
Zegna is a suit company.
How was he in person?
I never met him, bro.
We didn't talk that much.
We just got, we just lost in the AFC Championship.
It was for a Super Bowl event for Zenia, I think,
or it could have been Fashion Week.
And he was there.
Well, dude, that was kind of what it was for me.
It was like, you know, I brought that Southern flair
to the locker room.
You know what I mean?
Like, we believe coming out of LSU, man,
it was like, you look good, you play good,
you gotta be swagged out.
You know what I mean?
You gotta have some good tunes and have the energy going.
So I used to pull up to game day in the Hummer,
you know what I mean?
Subs going, beating the block down,
holler at my people at the game,
oh, what's up?
And it was just always good.
Gary's doing a donut in there for the crowd.
Hey, that's another story too, man.
Hey, remember when we had the big snow,
you don't remember, so we had the big snowstorm.
Yeah, we were all just ripping donuts in the parking lot. We went to the parking lot and I cracked. I had the big snow, you don't remember this, we had the big snow storm. Yeah, we were all just ripping donuts
in the parking lot.
We were ripping donuts in the parking lot.
I do that every snow.
It crashed in the Market's Canyon.
Did you?
Before the game.
Before the game, we were out there just going nuts.
Before a game?
I do it on a Friday when there's no one in there.
I think it was like, I want to say it was before the game
because we had the snow storm, we were taking those back
roads, where you go through Foxboro, you had the little houses and everybody was like before, I want to say it was before the game because we had the snowstorm we're taking those back roads, you know, where you go through Foxboro, you know, you had the little
houses and everybody was like, lived next to each other. So it's like a caravan. All the boys were
taking the back roads to get to the stadium. So I see this parking lot that hadn't been hit, no
tread, no track in there. I'm like, fresh powder, whip a right right there in the Hummer. And there
I go, I'm smashing on it. Doing donuts out there. And the funny thing is I remember it clear as day.
Wes Welker's house in the backyard.
And Cannon, I'm doing donuts out there.
And all of a sudden you see Marcus Cannon come over the hill.
And his Toyota Tundra ramps over the hill.
And he's got pipes on his.
And he's like, ah!
And we're spinning out there and hitting it.
Just having a blast.
Until of course we lose control. And I hit Cannon and there and hitting it, just having a blast until of course we lose control.
And I hit Cannon and boom, smack it.
And when I smacked it, I looked over and I swear,
you see the blinds slide open like this.
And Wes stuck his head out there and he's like,
oh y'all fucking idiots.
And he just closed the blinds and went on by his business.
Cause I really want to say it was either like
before game or after game,
but I remember seeing Wes with the big old blue eyes.
You know what I'm saying?
Like he's looking out the blinds.
It's like, man, who is,
I didn't know if it was a neighborhood of West.
Like, oh y'all are fucking idiots, dude.
It was funny, but hey, we're having a good time.
But that was, that was our Foxboro days.
So basically that story just told me
that when Bill tells us before training camp,
don't drive like a fucking idiot in Foxboro,
he was talking to you?
He was talking about me.
Okay.
He was talking about me.
He was, he was.
Hey, and speaking of the driving,
I mean, are we gonna bring up the riding days or what, man?
Yeah, we used to, when we used to ride,
dude, Kid Ritt had side-by-sides.
The toys.
Quads, all the toys, and he lived,
where do you live in?
Mansfield. North Attivoro.
North Attivoro and then moved to Mansfield.
Mansfield, where we drive on the telephone.
Power lines.
The power lines, they had like a track
that would go for miles.
Awesome.
I remember going out one time with Ridd
and this guy's ripping these things like 90 miles an hour.
Like it's a doom buggy getting like 40 feet of air
on these fucking.
The banshees bro.
I'm like, what are we doing?
We got OTAs tomorrow.
I'm over here on a little dirt bike.
I'm like, ah, I'm a chuck dude.
I'll see you later, bro.
I drove back.
No, you and Dolomite. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was like, I had the boys, I'll see you later, bro. I drove back. No, you and Dolomite.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So it was like, I had the boys, I had talked,
I talked grunk in the bind, a side by side,
and a player scrambler.
And I talked Dolomite and Jules into getting these pit bikes,
which you still have now.
We still have them.
And so I pulled up on Jules, what, six, seven months ago,
I'm like, bro, the pit bikes are still alive?
He's like, yeah, bro, I got them cranked it up
and we're riding down the road here.
But those were the days.
Oh, they're done now, by the way.
What was that, 14 years later?
Thank God, no, yeah, but thank God.
They were driving.
I went and I was driving the thing and the sprocket.
These things are made in China,
so they are as cheap as they come.
And I've had to try to, I've tried to get them fixed
at like 10 different dirt bike shops.
So like, yeah, bro, we're not working on that.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
He's like, nah, dude, we don't know what the fuck that is
or what is that thing?
And so I've been like jerry-rigging this thing
and trying to like get it right.
And I'm driving and thank God I was going slow at the time,
but then the sprocket broke and it locked on me.
I was thinking, what if I was going like 50 miles an hour,
which 10 seconds before I was.
On the pavement.
On the pavement, no helmet.
Over, over.
It would have been dead.
And then from that day on.
No games with names.
No games with names.
Let's jump into this game.
Okay, so let's get into the 2012 Houston Texans.
The record was 12 and four, head coach Gary Kubiak.
Same staff.
This is the same coaching staff
that went to Denver and won a Super Bowl.
Oh wow.
Yeah, offensive coordinator Wade Phillips
and offensive coordinator Rick Denison.
They traded Demarco Ryan's,
or D'Amico Ryan's, excuse me.
Head coach.
To Philadelphia. Some dudes on this team matchup is the quarterback Arion Foster running back
So Andre Johnson's on this team Owen Daniels JJ watt rookie season for Whitney Marcellus
They started out real hot
Levin and Levin and one until you know the game we're talking about here. What do you remember about this Houston team? Oh
the letterman jacket, you know, I mean that're talking about here. What do you remember about this Houston team? The Letterman jacket.
You know what I mean?
That's about it.
And I do remember we pretty much had our way with them.
I remember this week in the game plan,
anytime we were to play these guys,
especially this year and the next couple of years,
the number one thing was we had to block JJ Watt.
Yes.
That was everything.
Or not even that.
You remember Coach just made a straight call Gucci
or Coach McDaniels.
Wherever JJ Watt was lining up,
it was just an automatic check.
We were going the opposite way.
Like we just weren't even gonna deal with him.
So I do remember now what you say about that game,
coming out in pregame, that was my first time.
This was what, 2012?
Yeah.
So it's my second year in the league, okay?
Let's give this dude his flowers too.
I remember coming out there for pregame.
I'm always juice stuff, I didn't really care.
Like I say, SC mindset, killer be killed, we're out here.
I looked at this dude, JJ Watt.
And when I tell you a freak, man,
this dude looked like a G.I. Joe doll
out of a freaking, what is the toy store?
I'm serious, man.
Like he had these big arms that are like bolted
on the side of him and he's got the shirt cut off
and he's running across field for the warm up.
He's a monster, bro.
A grown ass man, bro.
You gotta give it to him.
But he was just long and lanky,
but I saw, of course our coaches are a dummy,
but it's like, we're going away from this guy.
And when I saw him pregame, I'm like,
you damn right we're going away from this guy.
Because I don't think it's gonna be too much going on
in there, and he really was that problem.
Like he was a problem that year, but he's unblockable.
I almost feel like he was like a Kaleus Campbell,
you know, like one of those dominant forces inside.
He was sick, but he was a different
level for sure.
So this was a JJ Watt, one defensive player of the year
this year.
Also the sack time, he had 20 and a half sacks,
39 tackle for losses, four forced fumbles,
and 60 pass breakups.
Jesus, was that when Cushing was down there too?
Yeah, he actually missed this game because he got hurt
earlier in the year, but this is peak Brian. They had a good defense
They were loaded. Yeah, they were Adrian Foster was fucking
Swiftie
Foster was smooth. He was so easy. See, you know, he kind of reminds me of like Camara
Just not like necessarily how they run but like they were slick like slick
They're both slick players were like they're good screen running backs.
They're good like toss crack running backs.
They can catch the ball to the backfield,
but they can, they dip in and out of the tackles
every so often, but when they do, it's impactful.
It's a big, it's a big game.
You know what I mean?
Adrian Foster was like that.
Oh yeah.
I can't take anything from his game at all.
He was a, to me he had the combination of power and speed.
He didn't have to be so physical.
Which is what Kamara is.
Yes, yes, but I think he was a little bit bigger back,
but that was a little bit back in the day.
He was one of those guys, if he got in space,
it was guaranteed 20 yards minimum.
You know what I mean?
And so that's really what he did for his career,
but he was nasty in Texas,
because everybody in the ballpark,
I think knew he was getting the rock,
and he was still productive.
This year he had 4,400 yards, 15 touchdowns.
Do see.
Yeah.
And then, Andre Johnson was on this team too.
He also had 1,600 yards, four touchdowns.
Wait a minute.
We got to, do you remember, did we remember,
see, I didn't play this game.
I broke my foot the week before.
I was really wondering, I'm like,
how are we going to do a game, Jules?
It's all right.
You're not even in the game.
This is about you, baby. Hey, I love it, guys. This is about you, baby. See what I'm saying, man? we gonna do a game, Jules? You're not even in the game. This is about you, baby.
I love it, guys.
It's about you, baby.
I'm telling you, man, but we'll get there.
But what was the perception of,
did we know that they came in with their Leatherman jackets?
Was there a talk on the locker room?
Yes.
Because if I was in the locker room,
and if I was there, I probably would have been like,
guys, we gotta beat the fuck out of these dudes.
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. This is high school hairy shit.
So I can't, look, my memory's really bad.
I'm not even gonna make this up.
When I say double digit concussions, I've had a few.
But I kinda somewhat remember, it was like a talk,
or maybe sports center or something,
had said that somebody on the team
was getting jackets made or something.
Like they were making a big deal about it
because they were coming out of H-Town
and coming up there to the freaking, to the brick,
to the brick, you know what I mean?
It's what I call bean town.
It's brick cold, it's freezing.
So I guess it was something going around saying
they were gonna hop off the plane with these jackets.
And it's like, bro, you're coming up an hour of shit,
swaging out, rocking these jackets.
Like this is about to be a cake walk.
It was disrespectful, you know what I mean?
So I remember Gucci told me, he was like,
Red, when you get in there, he said,
I want you to kick that bitch down.
Gucci McDaniels.
Gucci McDaniels, bro.
And so that was the celebration,
I used to kick the door down.
And I can't remember, was it J.J. Watt, he told me,
Gucci told me this, he was like,
when you get in there and score, he was like,
cause J.J. used to always hit the salute, remember? So when you go back to it, man, I kicked the door down, and I hit him with the salute, and I was like, when you get in there and score, he was like, cause JJ used to always hit the salute, remember?
So when you go back to it, man, I kicked the door down
and I hit him with the salute and I was like,
ain't none of that going on in here tonight.
You know, I was talking, talking my shit,
but when the OC gases you up like that
and tells you it's that kind of outing,
man, they stepped off with the freaking Letterman jackets.
I think it was like 21 to zero before the bus cooled off.
It was 21 to zero early in the second quarter.
We beat their ass, bro.
And it was awesome.
I tell you, it was really awesome.
There's only one way in and one way out.
You got to take the highway one, right up in the Foxboro.
They're going to be hell of traffic.
It's going to be cold.
You ain't going to hear a fucking R.
It is.
There ain't going to be any Rs.
What we call that Fort Foxboro, bro.
It was real.
It was real on the base.
So it was just tight to even look back and think,
bro, how dominant we really were.
Let's get into our team, though, real quick.
Go ahead.
2012 New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick,
offense coordinator Josh McDaniels,
defensive coordinator Matt Patricia,
coming off a super loss to the Giants
in the four, notable rookies Chandler Jones, Dante
Hightower, Nate Ebner.
Big draft.
Gronk also signed a big contract the year before, a largest tenant contract ever.
Had some injury issues this year.
This was also the year of the butt fumble was two weeks prior to this game.
Then Jules went down the week after.
Some dudes obviously Tom Brady, Stephen Ridley, some great running back room Shane Verene, Danny Woodhead.
They know.
Had Brandon Lloyd, Slater, Wes Welker's on this team,
Dante Stalworth who's dragged out the street for this game.
You mentioned some of the linemen, Marcus Cannon,
Dan Connolly, Logan Mannequin, Nate Solder,
Sebastian Vollmer.
Seabass, how'd we forget him earlier?
Seabass.
Neeks on this team, Wilforks on this team.
This was I think,
Devin McCordy's first year as a safety too. Yeah, we put McCordy to safety this team. This was I think the first year as a safety too. Yeah we put McCordy to safety this
year. He played a hit for the CB to safety right and then is that when Tlaib got here? That's when we got little
Dennard. Yep Alfonso yeah yeah yeah. Marquise Cole. Arrington was playing a lot. Kyle Arrington, yeah. Chung, always. Staple. Nate Ebner.
Derrick Martin was one of the funniest individuals.
I don't know if I ever talk about him, but he was a funny individual, man.
Shout out, shout out.
Deon Branch.
Dirty.
What's that, Dirty?
B-Lloyd was probably one of the best ex-receivers I played with.
His routes and his hands.
He had like feather soft hands. Yeah. And he was so smooth with his routes and his hands, he had like feather soft hands.
Yeah, and he was so smooth with his routes.
Silky, he was silky.
And he, like, he had dancer flexibility.
Like, that's how he got in and out of his, like, brakes.
He looked like the Pink Panther.
He'd be like, ooh, choo choo.
It was like.
You couldn't have drawn, I guess,
you could not have drawn up a prettier route by a receiver.
He got smooth hands.
And he was effortless. It's like he wasn't even trying to move, but like his form was just so nice.
And then it's like he'd come out of stuff. And if the ball was anywhere around, he could bend his body.
Just all kind of ways to catch the rock.
Like a dancer.
Yeah, truly.
Like, yeah, he was a, he was a fucking stud.
He was, he was. I always try to explain to people about the
running back room. Yeah. Yeah
Explain to us how the dynamic of the running back room with Ivan fears
at coach
coach fears
Like how he had to basically like be the teacher for all you knuckleheads. Yeah. Yeah, he did
He did coach fears was like pops, you know, I mean coach fears the old head I think he had been with knuckleheads. Yeah, yeah, he did, he did. Coach Fears was like Pops.
You know what I mean, Coach Fears was an old head.
I think he had been with Bill forever.
And I mean, our running back room was loaded.
I mean, let's just go back through it and say what it was.
Our leader, I'm going to say, was 3'9", Danny Woodhead.
Like, small guy, dynamite.
Big things come in small packages.
You could throw Danny in any play,
line him up at any position and Danny knew it
It was effective, but the running back room
He was heading that room when I got there as a rookie it was Ben Jarvis Green Ellis
and then once Benny went on in Cincinnati, that's when I kind of stepped into it in 2012 and
We started kind of figured out what I was capable of but our room was no doubt led by Danny Woodhead
He was the ultimate leader, ultimate teammate,
kind of told us how it was coming in.
So Coach Fears would always throw it up there.
So let me back up again.
Brandon Bolden, Ole Miss guy.
BB was a monster, okay?
BB did not lift weights.
BB just ran all day, never got tired,
but little history about BB.
BB was from Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
and went to Ole Miss to play running back.
I was from Natchez, Mississippi,
and left Mississippi and went to LSU to play running back.
We were a year apart.
He wore 34 at Ole Miss, I wore 34 at LSU,
and we banged it out for four years in a row.
So when we drafted Brandon Bolden,
when y'all talk about Lick, bro,
I was like, there's no way Bill really just did that.
And I looked up and BB's coming in the room
and it was like, oh, what's up?
Me and BB like to smoke a little Bud and chill.
I'm just gonna say, like that was kinda,
that was our deal.
We'll get another story going on that one.
I don't wanna get us in trouble,
but our running back room was super tight.
Just talk about the room.
Danny was our leader.
Shano was drafted ahead of me.
So Bill, the previous year, I guess in 2000,
what was that, 2006 is when Bill drafted
Gronk and Hernandez in the same draft class.
10.
10.
2010. 2010, sorry.
We came in in 2011 and he drafted Shane and me at running back.
So he was going by the twos.
And so when we come in, Shane-O is third down back,
fast, got wheels.
Shane got an open field.
You can just go ahead and meet him at the goal line.
He just had it.
And he was a safety valve out the backfield.
He was the exact opposite of me.
So when I look at it, it was like our running back room was so built
that we were just, any of us could go.
So going back to Coach Fears, I just remember we'd go
through the game and it was badass because after you play
in New England and I consider myself a journeyman,
because I had to bounce around on a few different teams,
very rarely did I go to a room that was as loaded
as we were on this year.
But Coach Fears really used to just say,
hey look, every other series,
we're going with a different bat.
He didn't care who was in there
because we were all that good.
And so it was really dope because we had a team concept
that we were all unselfish.
We all knew that we had one job to do
and that was to get it done as a running back rule
and not fumble the football.
And that word still, I get chills on my body
because that was the biggest issue throughout my career.
Bro, I ran hard, but the ball would get out, bro.
When I was fighting for the extra yards.
But either way, Bill, with no hesitation,
you knew what time it was.
You put that ball on the ground,
go ahead and sit on the bench, bro.
That's a day for you, you know, watch the game.
But when you look at this room,
it was so stacked that it didn't matter who we had in there.
We had great leadership.
Coach Fears always kept us like,
almost like a school mentality, bro.
Like we were in class.
Ah, shut up now, shut up now, shut up.
Y'all get it here, so I don't know.
You know, and y'all know what Bill said
and what we have to do
and he's gonna trickle down with everything.
So it's like, coach gives his orders.
Ivan's gonna come in and coach us up,
make sure we know what we need to do and we can't
be embarrassed on the old man you know what I mean like this is one of Bill's
guys and Bill trust him and you know I look at and say this man he was one of
the few black coaches on the coaching staff so you know we try to go hard for
the man and he'd been around for years so when you look at it like that we were a
true family you know I mean we hung out a lot off the field, but we were just stacked up, dude,
because Shane was a monster out of the backfield,
and then even when you handed it to him,
Shane would get loose quick.
And there was no drop off between BB and me,
and there was no drop off between
Danny Woodhead and Shane Vareen.
We just had debt for days.
Who's most entertaining guy in the locker room?
In this locker room, Chica, Aaron Hernandez.
I'm going to say that.
I got to give him his flowers, dude.
He had a personality that was out of this world, bro.
He was funny.
He was funny.
Crazy, funny.
I just always think about him saying, Ayo Bill.
Remember how you used to say that? Ayo, Ayo was there about him saying, Ayo Bill, remember how you used to say that?
Ayo, Ayo was there, Ayo, Ayo Bill.
And he'd come in and be loud and joking,
but he was a baller.
And he worked hard.
He worked hard.
Chico had, when you come to personality,
it's like you have that guy that's like super loud,
almost obnoxious and annoying,
but he's so annoying that you have to laugh at him
because you can't get over him.
And he had coach McDaniel's rolling, he had Bill laughing.
And then I just remember him and Talib,
remember him and Talib used to go at it after practice.
And they used to just bet that money.
It was like, we'd have our full practice and stuff.
But Chico was such a competitor,
correct me if I'm wrong, Jules,
but Chico used to go do drills with the receivers.
Like this dude was so talented, he had feet and hands
of a receiver, but he had the body of a freaking tight end.
But he also just loved competition.
So Tlaib comes in, and Tlaib's gonna talk his shit.
You know what I mean?
He's gonna bark and say, he's gonna lock stuff down.
I'm gonna lock you down.
And Chico and him would go at it probably two, three days
a week after practice.
I used to have to do it with him too. Tom would go at it probably two, three days a week after practice.
I used to have to do it with him too.
Tom would spin it out there, you know,
it'd be like practice would be over
and you'd look up and Bill's over on the sideline
just twirling the whistle watching the show
but they'd be betting money on
catching the rock against each other.
But Chico leaving Florida,
I knew he was a baller down in Florida
and then once I got to get up to New England
we hung out a little bit and got his personality man. He was the man bro
He really was but he was just he kept he kept us laughing at all times. He really did
He was funny laughing or you wanting to punch him in the face want to fight him wanted to and he wasn't scared of that either
No
Clearly not team asshole. Yes, who is a team asshole team asshole?
mmm Team Asshole. Yes. Who is a team asshole? Team Asshole, hmm. I see no names on there, bro.
Like who would be the team asshole?
Like just to call you, you want me to give it to you?
Would you be the team asshole?
Am I team asshole?
Probably, you know.
Am I team asshole?
Am I the team asshole?
Always, always, hey, he's gonna be mad at me,
but whatever coach said, dude, Jules is gonna do, okay? So Jules was holding the standard.
Like when Jules came in, Jules came to work every day.
I'll just say that.
So kept the fire lit, kept the energy up,
win, lose, or draw.
I'd say Jules was pretty vocal on freaking carrying your load.
You know what I mean?
Like he really did do that, I ain't gonna lie.
Over his career, he was just one of those guys
that just worked his ass off. So I'd say team ass off. He'd people out, you know and let you know when you're when you're when you're slacking
So I'll give you that I'm looking at the right thing if you if you I don't see I was an asshole
But I worked hard. Yeah, you did but you can't say anything the guy that's been here three hours before you woke up
Truly and already got the workout in, already caught balls on the judge, you know what I mean?
Like this dude was just...
Already, catching edges.
I think he was up and grinding more than he was sleeping
at that point in his career.
And I'm not just saying that because he was here,
it was just, he was a scrappy white dude
that really had to hold his own and he did that.
You know what I mean?
But I think he was a leader enough to call us out,
because I don't really see any like,
assholes on that list.
Like we didn't have it.
Tom, I mean Tom was zero bullshit policy,
you know what I mean?
But he wasn't really a-
Best Tom story you have.
12, man.
First day, very first day I got there.
Coming out of LSU, we believe in stepping in there
and trying to go in and make a difference. We ain't scared, we're lining up trying to do it. So I got in there coming out of LSU, we believe in stepping in there and trying to go in
and make a difference.
We ain't scared, we're lining up trying to do it.
So I got in there and got behind 12 for the first time,
and Tom turned around and looked at me.
Look forward again, look back.
Nah, Rick, get out of here.
Kev, come on.
And he sat me down before even handing me the first ball,
told Kev Falk, come on in here and take the first.
A real LSU running back.
Real LSU back, a goat, a legend.
Gotta give it to him.
But.
Hey Feze.
He did, he kinda humbled me on that very first day.
Did Kev Falk like talk to you about that afterwards
or anything?
Did he call you after you got drafted to Patriots LSU?
Or is there like a coolness?
With Kev?
Yeah.
For sure, for sure.
Kev hit me up, let me know,
and then Jarvis Green had left there.
Yeah.
And so the LSU guys kind of welcomed me in
when I got that call.
So that would be a good story.
But I got a better 12 story.
It's off the field.
And cause Tom never went out,
kind of never did much.
And I remember the first time
Tom ever invited me to his crib.
I gotta say that. I don't know what year it was,
but we had done practice or something,
and Tom was like, Red, Red Dog,
and he was going, Red Dog, come here.
And I ran over there, I'm like, what's up, bro?
He's like, look, I want you to come with me.
And I'm like, what?
Coach, you where?
I'm like, where, when, where I need to be?
So he was like, meet me in Boston,
gave me an address, I didn't even know where I was going.
Didn't matter, I was going with 12.
Quarterback invited me out, so I haul ass up the highway.
What was that, 95?
Leave, because everybody thinks Patriots, Boston, no.
The Patriots are in Foxborough, that's a freaking hour ride
from Foxborough, 45 minutes.
45, reverse commute.
To Boston, but Tom gave me his address, ride from Foxborough, 45 minutes. 45. From Foxborough to Boston.
But Tom gave me his address.
And I remember texting mom and dad.
And I'm like, man, Tom just invited me to come over here
to go meet him.
I didn't know where I was going.
I didn't care.
So I went on up and drive to Boston.
I don't know if he even remembers this.
But I was like, got to his house.
He showed me around the crib.
I'm like, where are we going, bro?
What's the move?
He's like, man, just come on the ride with me.
So I hopped in the back of the car,
and we pull into, we leave his house, go downtown.
Tom's the man, rides through, traffic's everywhere.
I'm thinking it's like a Red Sox game
or something like that.
And as we pull up there, Tom literally pulls up
and cracks his window like this much.
And didn't even have to say much.
They kind of knew who he was and like let us ride on through
and then we parked across the street from the stadium.
And I'm like, the stadium's packed out
and I'm like, that's not a baseball game going on.
What is the deal?
We go in there and park and we walk back across the street
to the stadium.
When we walk in there, it was a concert.
So, bring you back to this time, this day and time.
Walk in, and we go behind stage,
Justin Timberlake is walking onto the stage.
So, I don't know if y'all remember Holy Grail.
Yeah.
Okay, so they were performing in Fenway Park.
Of course, Tom has the plug, and he's inviting me in there.
I'm like, bro, I'm the man, you know what I mean?
Like, Tom invited their plug and he's inviting me in there. I'm like, bro, I'm the man. You know what I mean?
Like Tom invited their running back up there,
Marla with QB1, like I'm with 12,
we're going to the stadium and get in there
and he hollers at JT, yo, JT, da da da.
And they're like homies, I'm like, dog, how tight is that?
The story gets better.
From there, we go and watch JT go on.
I think we might have watched like one song or something like that perform,
or maybe it hadn't even started.
And we walked back across to where his car was.
So when we walked back across to where his car was,
I walk in there and I'm following Tom wherever he goes.
And y'all, it was almost like a movie.
You know, this figure walks out and it's like,
there's nobody in Boston,
not really many people in America
that are bigger than Tom Brady.
And I'm like, who am I really seeing what I'm seeing?
You know who it was.
Who?
Hove, bro.
Jay-Z, I met Jay-Z for the first time with Tom Brady, dog.
And I realized how tight they really were.
So when I walk up there, I'm shocked.
I'm like, bro, pick your jaw up.
Act like you've been somewhere before.
You know what I mean?
Like get your shit together.
You know, I got to at least be cool a little bit,
but I'm like, whoa, man, Jay-Z had on these gold chains,
bro, I'm talking about stacked up,
almost touching his ear,
and he comes in and he daps off Tom.
And he was like, and he called me Red.
I want to say he called me Red.
He said, Red, can I pick you up in fantasy this year?
And before I could even say anything,
I remember this, Tom touched me and he don't even know.
He was like, you're damn right,
you can pick him up in fantasy this year.
And I'm like, oh, I made it.
I made it, I freaking made it.
But I'm in here with freaking Tom and Jay-Z
and they're performing the Holy Grail at the concert.
And of course, 12 got backstage passes
and just rolls in this thing like he's on in the stadium,
which he did.
And it was like one of those moments that I can say
with 12 on the field, we have countless moments
in my four years there that I could talk about.
But that was one of those times off the field
that I was like, it was super dope to just see
because I figured out that him, Jay-Z,
I want to say, what you call it was there too,
KD was there maybe, Kevin Durant?
Maybe.
And so I think he was there too,
but it was like one of those times that it was just like,
if you knew or you had that in, you were there,
and I definitely didn't have that in,
I was just rolling with the man.
So that was a cool ass story that 12 kind of let me know
that I was kind of handling my business a little bit
to even be with him off the field
and him to take me to that album.
That was bomb.
That's insane.
Get to meet Hov, JT, JD.
Sliding backstage.
Fenway.
Fenway Park.
Jules is just jealous right now.
Dappin' on.
I was at that concert. I was there.
You wasn't backstage with me.
No, I wasn't backstage.
I wasn't there.
What year was this?
2011?
No, not yet.
No, he forgot the year.
What do you mean?
He didn't even have a first hundred yet.
Boss, he's lying.
Ridley's lying.
No.
All right, let's jump into the game.
Hold on, before we move on to the game,
just as a fan of a New England Patriots,
there's a very clear distinction in the running back.
There's a lineage of the early down running backs, the first, second down running backs,
and then the pass catcher third down guys. You're kind of a part of that lineage, the
Corey Dillons, the Blunts, the you, and then the other side you have the
Vereens and the Kevin Fox and the James Whites. Can you just kind of explain how that dynamic
is coached and how that exists
inside the running back room?
Yes, we had personnels.
Personnel groups.
So when we say personnel groups,
it's just like different formations, people go in,
you know, if we go three wides or go spread and go empty,
or we go to goal line formation or two tight ends
with a full bat.
So basically it was just,
God how many times we heard this saying,
it was a do your job type of deal.
So we kind of knew our roles, knew our assignments,
what we were there for and what our specialty was.
And that's what was so cool about being drafted
by the Patriots.
People always ask me, did you have fun?
And I honestly say, really what, not much fun.
Because we were never satisfied, bro.
Like we were kicking ass and doing it,
but it like, we would be nine and one or something like that
and it feel like we were freaking O and 12
around the facility because we weren't settling
for anything but championship.
Like that's what we were locked in on.
But the dynamic in the running back room was kind of like,
bro, it was a true, like almost like special forces, you know what I mean?
Like if, like Jules said, you got somebody go in there
and defuse the bomb, you know, it's a third down situation.
We know we gotta have this.
Man, Red's big ass ain't in the game.
Like I'm on the sidelines chilling.
Shane over Woody's gonna be in there
because those are the guys who know how to run routes.
And understand.
There's the bomb diffuser, and then you're like the,
one of those jammer cars. I'm like the, what are those, jammer cars?
I'm like the armor truck that goes through that thing.
Goal line, like you know, you see Rigg coming to game
on goal line situation, short yardage,
first and second down, and so that's why I always, for me,
it got me in trouble carrying the pill,
but I like, I really emptied the tank on every run,
because I knew that I was only in there
for first and second down.
And so third down come around,
it would be either Danny or Shane's coming in.
You know, if I stayed on the field
and we stayed with that same personnel and I was tired,
then BB would come on in or, you know,
give me a little relief.
But man, we had a real family.
And like, we didn't care how it went down.
We just knew that we didn't want Bill's recap of the game
when he's talking about the plays or the moments
that had changed the game.
We just didn't want it to be the running back room.
You know what I mean?
So that's really how it was.
We were so unselfish and we were just like,
we were a true team, bro.
Yeah.
You mentioned emptying the tank on every run.
I was watching your highlights last night.
It seemed like every single run ended with just a shoulder.
Just that little bit of extra, just you know what.
Kerebi running hard.
Man.
Like he possessed.
I loved.
I saw Mississippi running right there.
It's just that SEC ball.
Yeah.
You know, like, I mean, like we had to really,
we played ball in a time in the SEC when I know for a fact
I think it was at his pinnacle.
And not to elaborate on that too long,
but it's like on my team alone,
I think we had 10 players drafted out of just my class.
You know, Patrick Peterson was with me.
I came out.
Chad Jones, I don't know if y'all remember him,
but the SEC at that time,
Cam Newton was there, Julio Jones was there.
There's no Mid-American Conference, but.
He said what?
There's no American Conference?
Bro, come on.
Mid-American Conference.
Get out of here, dude.
If you go look at the SEC,
look at the SEC from the years of 2007 and 2011,
Joe Hayden, the Percy Harvins.
Florida's roster in itself was a NFL team,
was a poor NFL team under Urban Meyer.
They had, Kim Newton was back up to Tim Tebow.
The Macs, all-star teams, like an all-man team.
It was crazy.
Georgia had No-Shawn Marino, had Matthew Stafford,
had A.J. Green, you know what I mean?
James Harrison.
Like these.
Josh Cribbs.
That was way before your time, bro.
See how you try to claim all these kids.
I played with James in like 19.
Oh my God, give the guy a kick.
James Harrison was on our team like in 2018, 17.
Yeah, I was way out of there by the end.
But hey, Kent State, give it to him, bro.
Jack Lambert, no big deal.
But yeah, bro, it was a different style of running, bro,
because we just had it,
it was defense and smash mouth football back in the day.
Hell yeah.
So that was the run style, bro.
Kyler, let's jump into the game.
So we kind of talked a lot about this,
but mostly just both teams were riding a six game win streak.
Houston was coming in, best season franchise in history,
coming in 11 and 1 for a Monday night football
game in Foxboro.
We talked about it a little bit earlier, the Letterman jackets.
I want to give a little bit more context to that. So the idea came from nose tackle Sean Cody and
linebacker Connor Barwin. And they said that I used to say before the season, it feels
like we're on a college team. Everyone gets along. We have so much fun. And this jacket,
you feel like you're on a high school team and where it's all about winning. It's all
about being around a group of guys. This Jack is just another symbol of that
There are no names on it. You just have your number your position group and the Texans logo
That was cute and that plan was to continue the Jackets throughout the season
Adding patches adding certain things based off of individual performances, but you guys beat the shit out of that idea.
Can't come back from that.
Was that the first game they pulled about?
That was the first game they pulled it out.
Oh wow, and then they buried it right after that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No thank you.
Probably should've waited until next week.
Yeah.
It would come to a page.
On the road?
Bad call by whoever that was.
God, Monday Night Football this game.
Ooh, prime time. Talk about Monday Night Football this game. Ooh, prime time.
Talk about Monday Night Football.
What does it mean to you?
Monday night was freaking,
it was always good to be on prime time, dude.
You know, you knew everybody was watching, you know,
and as a kid you dream about getting out there
and making it to the stage at NFL.
And during my four years in New England,
and we're kicking ass the way we're kicking ass,
we had prime time games almost every week.
You know what I mean?
So that's why I say I'm just,
I hit my knees and I say my prayers,
I'm just thankful for the time that I got in New England.
Because you look at it now and it's like,
no prime time games.
We had probably seven, eight, nine, 10 of them a year,
and they were probably most likely wins.
You know what I mean?
So we just had a squad that was working together.
We really were a team group and man, we kicked ass.
But Monday night football is where you got a ball.
I mean you cannot come to Monday night knowing that
you're on the field, you're a starter.
They're going to put the ball in your hands
and not show up.
So that was always my mentality.
Come in, juice, come in and handle your business
and make sure that we get the job done
and don't embarrass yourself on the public stage,
on the big stage.
Can't, not in this game.
No way, Letterman jackets.
When's the last time you wore a Letterman jacket?
I actually have a bomber that looks,
I designed a Letterman jacket with Joe's jeans actually it's kind of cool bomber your rocket
Yeah, it's cool. We were thinking we should get some games with names letterman jackets out to this
No, maybe we'll I don't maybe the next ratings will be fucking terrible
Yeah, I mean what if we get out just fucking murdered
I watched it I watched like a deep cut YouTube video real late last night that there's like a Letterman jacket curse
Any time a pro team starts rocking them shit goes bad. See you can't wear Letterman jacket
Texas started that BS. So we mentioned earlier this game
John Gruden's on the call. Shout out John Gruden. John Gruden was great on the call
Loved him. I was watching the highlights. You like Gruden as a caller. Yes, yes. On the TV, he's the other caller, caller.
Yes, Gruden's the man.
I just did his podcast.
He's fucking, I was impressed.
He's always on.
Intense.
Yeah, he just, he knows how, he knows,
he's done TV, you could, so,
we had 45 minutes to do his podcast.
We were in and out, like timed,
like he knows beats, but he also,
like he knows the shit already,
but he's been more fun with this bar stool.
It's been fun watching him.
It was cool.
It was cool, man.
He's a, my dad was a big fan of him.
He was a Raider.
You know, dad's a diehard Raiders fan.
So Gruden, Gruden's a legend around our household.
You know what I mean?
So yeah, he's the man.
This game started, not a whole lot worth talking about
this game, but started out whole lot worth talking about this game
But start out real hot three touchdowns first few drives Hernandez you mentioned two touchdowns Brandon Lloyd had 37 touchdowns
By halftime Patriots were up 21 nothing
You did have a red zone fumble though early. See what I'm talking about got recovered young kid red trippin
Do what's it like being in Belichick's like fumble doghouse?
Not a pile.
Oh, dude, you know,
I'm talking about I'm 36 years old right now,
and I don't really watch that much football,
I'm being honest with you.
Like I was kind of scarred after the pro career,
because it was like, man, I know I had a decent career,
but I had like some fumbles at some times,
and like social media was just getting going.
And people were firing and saying some of the craziest stuff
to you in socials, and it used to just like,
man, it used to eat at me, bro.
It used to just eat me up,
and I finally got fed up one time,
and I laid into some little kid that fell off my DMs.
I'm like, little turd, I didn't say like that nice,
but I'm like you little turd, I went in on him.
You don't know the half, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Makes you know, his mom writes back a message,
I'm just letting you know, and I was like, mom, F you too.
Like for one, you need to control your little kid
talking to a grown man like this, yada, yada, yada.
But it's like one of those deals, man,
when you fumble the rock, it's the most disgusting feeling that you can have
because you've let, literally it's the hopes
and dreams of the team.
You're a running back.
You got one job to do and that's hold the pill
and get the yardage and get down.
And when you cough it up like that,
Bill has a zero tolerance for that.
I mean, and I remember I was not only bench,
but it's like the whole following week of practice.
I don't know if you even remember this.
Remember he took the footballs.
And greased them.
Greased them up with like Vaseline and silicone.
Put baby powder on top of them
and making his point that I blew it and had a fumble.
Then you do a drill where you have two balls in each hand,
greased up the same way.
Coach Fears is on one side, Bill comes over there
and he's on the other side, and that's when he's gonna
actually coach you hard, you know, and make you realize
that it's very important and it's not acceptable.
So I got benched one time where he like took me out,
I didn't even get to dress, you remember that?
Where I had to sit on the sidelines?
I'm like scarred for this, bro, just off of a fumble turnover
but Coach had me on the sidelines, holding the rock,
not even in pads bro.
I had to sit and watch the game and it was sick
but I think like right after that, the next two games,
he came in, he fed me pretty well
and I was freaking killing it
because I was just pissed off and embarrassed
but Bill's doghouse is
Nowhere that any human being wants to be ever ever ever do ever so I still love you coach
I do the thing about this game
We were doing a lot a whole lot of no huddle, and that's because of JJ watt
You know you we were trying to capture a team
in the same personnel group, get them tired,
don't give them enough time to communicate.
So that's, and that's why we were going no huddle.
Keep that personnel on.
Just blew the brakes, blew the brakes off of them.
Yeah, let me put a bow in this game.
So 21 and a half, throwing nothing in half,
start off third quarter early,
Stalwart had a 63 yard touchdown off the street.
Big touchdown.
Off the street.
Loved Stalwart.
When that first game, he was awesome.
I loved Stalwart.
He was one of those leaders that came into our locker room, man.
And we spent some time.
He was just a quality dude.
He really was.
He understood the different ways.
Had a lot of perspective from life experience
that he explained through for us young guys.
Yeah.
And then also want to make sure to mention
that Danny Woodhead, if we're giving out fumbles,
also had a fumble in the red zone.
However, his was recovered by Lloyd in the end zone.
B Lloyd touched down.
Yeah, in this game.
Boop.
I think he did, he popped it out and B Lloyd scooped it up.
Scooped it up, or it was scooped in the end zone, scored.
And you capped off Patriot scoring
with a 14-yard touchdown.
They had 13 penalties for 126 yards.
You know we got our ass ripped.
Final score, 42-14.
Beatdown.
That was bad.
Beep, beep, beep, beatdown.
After math, we were really taught
what championship football is.
Brady James, LSU, speak that real.
Yeah, Houston finished 12-4.
That's what he said.
Houston finished 12 and four.
That's a defeating quote.
This was cream season too, by the way.
Oh, this is cream season.
That's what?
Cream season's a part of the season
where the cream rises to the top and you know,
you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
There are only about six teams each year
that really have a shot.
Yeah.
And then eventually. Well, it's developed through the pasteurization period
of the season, which is like week four to eight, 12.
That's like when the milk's trying to get up to the top.
Cream rise to the top.
Yeah, but like Coach said, best football
has to be played after Thanksgiving.
After Thanksgiving.
Absolutely.
The cream season's about to start.
Yeah, so this was a matchup in the playoffs, too.
Patriots also won 41-28.
Ryd, you had 15 carries, 80 yards, and a tug.
Ooh.
Got out.
Patriots then lose to the Ravens in the AFC Championship game.
Gary Kubiak would be fired.
Years later, JJ Watt was asked if he still had the jacket.
He says, I don't think so.
I hope not.
I don't want to bring that up at all. Those were some bad days.
Takes a man to admit to it.
Real talk.
Takes a man to admit to it.
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All right, let's name the game and then score the game.
Is this the greatest game of all time?
Let's score it rid
What is the the name of this game that you like the most off your dome or we have some we have the letterman
Jacket game the letterman loss
Texas fold them the Monday night massacre
Houston humiliation it's got to have something with the Letterman jacket, I believe.
I disagree with you that quick, bro.
I'm going with Texas Fold'em, bro.
Fold'em up, get them out of there.
That was a pretty.
The whole thing about this game is the Letterman jacket,
but this is your game, we'll go with the Texas Fold'em.
Texas Fold'em is, I think, great wordplay
and props to Jack for doing that,
but I mean, I gotta push back here too.
This is 100% the Letterman jacket game, no? I'll give you that, I'll give that. I mean, the Letterman jacket here too. This is 100% the Letterman Jacket game, no?
I'll give you that, I'll give that.
I mean, the Letterman Jacket game.
This is like big time story.
They came out with it,
because like you say, for them to come out with that,
you gotta have that in, I'll give you that.
I'll back check on my words,
but the Texas Folding is great.
It's great.
Great, great, you know, great wordplay, like you say.
Letterman lost.
The Letterman Jacket game, for sure.
Letterman Jacket game.
Give it to them, yeah.
All right, score the game, is this the Letterman Jacket game. We'll give it to it, yeah. All right, score of the game.
Is this the greatest game of all time?
Let's score it.
Steven, stakes, zero to 10, decimals okay.
The stakes of this week 12 game.
Or is it week, what is it, week 12?
No, they're 11 and one, week 14 game.
Week 14, but December.
Week 14 game, the stakes of this game, regular season game.
I'll give it a seven.
Seven, that's a good score.
Seven, six, seven.
I think we were focused on, or we were focused on,
I think for them it was their Super Bowl
trying to hype theirself up like they were somebody.
Yeah, we can only grade the stakes for our perspective.
I'm saying.
We'll look on winning streaks too.
Yeah.
Monday night game, late in the season.
Some stakes here.
I'll go with a seven.
Yeah.
Cause this is the start of cream season.
4.9, Jesus Jack.
This can't be right.
Five.
Jack is 4.9, I have 6.3.
Okay.
Okay.
Star power of this game.
Monday night football baby.
Monday night football, the players in it
Kubiak's a Super Bowl winning cat coach in the future. You got Bill staff. You got Tom Brady. What?
JJ why star power this game rid so power Monday night?
Well, I'm gonna go with seven again seven go seven cuz we had some big games
You know what I mean, but Monday night Matt matchup on two good teams Matt Chubb quarterback a little bit of a ding
But yeah, I'm gonna go with the six point four good
Jack at home had a seven point five and I Andre Johnson
Johnson and Eric I loved on a foster
That's a baller's a red some ballers Dwayne Brown go Hokies to
I had some ballers in there. I had some ballers.
Dwayne Brown go Hokies too.
Yeah.
Gameplay.
The gameplay of the game.
The gameplay would be like the entertainment value of it,
going back and forth.
Like the gameplay, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Explain that.
It's an exciting game, great stuff happens,
back and forth, you know.
Or is it just a shellacking?
No, no, no.
I mean, I'm kind of stuck on my number there
because I think for the Pats, for us, seven.
Seven.
Seven because for our fans, we gave them a show.
You know what I mean?
It wasn't much of a game that you're sitting on your seat
watching like it was closed.
It was a beat down.
It was clinical from the Patriots side.
Yeah, but we came to play.
I was watching this game, and you could just see the,
it was very clinical. We were having our way. It just, not even that though, just like you could just see the, it was very clinical. Like.
We were having our way.
It just, not even that though, just like,
you could, it was like a well-oiled machine.
Methodical, run game, this game, intermediate game,
deep pass, like everything was clicking,
it just looked like a highly run machine.
It was a perfect game.
Shout out Gucci on our offensive play, call it a game,
because the play action was killing him.
That touchdown from Lloyd, the play action.
Oh, it was like Moss running down.
Oh, it was beautiful.
The whole, we were pulling the D.
I'm going to go with the seven as well.
You're running at will, yeah.
Jack has a 7.1.
I had a 5.1.
I thought it was a five for Patriots and zero for the Texans.
Name of the game, the Letterman-Jacket game.
You got to score the name of the game. You gotta score the name of the game.
Oh, score the name of the game.
Let's give it a,
you riding all the way down with the sevens, bro?
I'll give that, actually look, Letterman-Jackett game,
I'll give it a nine.
Cause I mean, everybody remembers the game.
I'll give it a 8.2 cause people remember
the Letterman-Jackett game.
For a regular season game,
and newer teams for a championship,
might not know who scored or who didn't.
Lookit, Jack gave me a 9-7.
That's a 9.
I had a 7-9.
We might have to check in on Jack after this.
All right, where is this at?
Where does this rank?
The final score is 7.14.
Where does it rank all time?
That puts it 57th.
Just below the 2011 Stanley Cup final,
Game 7 Bruins-Kanucks, which is a criminal score,
and then just above the 2006 NFC wild card game,
Cowboys versus Seahawks.
That I believe is the most spiky.
We done 80 of these motherfuckers.
Dude, we're closing in on 100.
It's, we gotta do something special.
Ooh, hey.
80.
Hey, do your thing, bro.
Do your thing.
80 game.
I'm just double tapping from afar, but hey.
I love the gram, bro. When I get to see the feed come down, the games and names, y'all keep killing your thing bro. Do you think I'm just double tapping from afar? But hey, I love the gram bro when I get to get to see the feed come down the games and names
I'll keep killing it bro. It's great man. That was awesome. That's great
That's it. I think we got so many stories left from that list
You got to come back now that you're a California. You got to come back. Definitely. I mean, and I think it'd be cool
If why don't we have rid join us?
for the chill zone Let's do it. Yeah, why don't we have Rid join us for the Chill Zone?
Let's do it.
Yeah, why don't you, we got some questions.
We actually threw in some questions from callers.
Cool, cool.
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With Steven Ridley.
Again, that number is 424-291-2290.
Let's get into it.
Hey, this is Michael from Pine Grove, Pennsylvania.
Steven Ridley, you're one of my favorite touchdown celebrations.
Drawing a door, kicking it down.
I was wondering what inspired that?
Man, what inspired the kick the door down celebration? Every defensive league is trying to keep you out of the end zone.
That was my way of giving them the big middle finger and letting them know that guess what?
It ain't no stopping the kid when we got our mind made up and they're going to turn around and hand it off.
Because I know 12 is going to punch it in.
If you let me get me a little bit of shine, hand me the rock.
I got to close it for the team.
So I love to kick the door down
and just give it to a defense.
Let them know.
I mean business.
Appreciate it.
It was intense too.
Draw it up.
Yeah.
In there.
And the salute this week.
None of that.
It's over. Hey guys, Stalin from Nut House Nation back at you again.
Rid, welcome to the Nut House.
Dude, that's badass.
Hey, I want to paint a scenario for you guys here.
We're having a cookout at the Nut House, a Nut House cookout.
You have all the time in the world to make sure this food comes out perfectly since we
know you like to take your time and make sure it's good.
You know, we'll enjoy some ice cold cores light. We'll blast some Bon Jovi toss the pigskin around
Hang out in the hot tub
Whatever it is. We'll wait so Steven. What meal are you making for everyone and Julian?
You have to cook up this dish as well. So what's the move we go in burger time?
See it cook out boys cook out. What are you bringing to the cookout, Ryd?
Good question, Dallin.
That is awesome.
Where's Dallin from?
We talk to him a lot.
He's in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania kid, Pennsylvania.
Well, I think it's only right
that I go ahead and plug the homies.
Do y'all read the hat?
I'm cooking some duck poppers.
Duck poppers?
Duck poppers at the cookout, man. Duck poppers? Well you can't
kill them if you don't eat them that's kind of the known rule but hey I'm gonna cook some duck
poppers for the nut house I really am bro I got to. I'm as boring as they come for my cookout just
hamburgers and hot dogs. See that's that Kelly shit. I love hamburgers and hot dogs. And of course light, we should probably.
Oh, and of course light.
You go, but that's where I gotta bring
that Mississippi and Louisiana to it.
You know, that good cook cookin'.
I like barbecue chicken.
I like tri-tip.
In California, we eat a lot of tri-tip.
Tri-tip's good.
They don't even eat tri-tip anywhere else.
I mean, but if I cook,
if I cook some duck poppers, would you try them?
Yeah, I'll try them.
All right, cool.
Is like poppers like wings, like when you like kind of fold them out
Poppers how I do my poppers man. I get a duck breast and we're gonna cut it up kind of like a nugget. Okay
wrap it in cream
Put cream cheese a jalapeno wrap it in bacon
I'll just watch your fingernails cuz you're probably gonna bite down. You know what I mean?
So yeah, I got y'all will cook that up for y'all. No, no, I want a duck popper. I'm coming so
pop a top
Cheers, bro. Cheers, Bob's. Love it. Love you. Man. Oh, awesome
You know not houses are Vander calling them with a question for our boy Ridley
You ever get to meet Mike the tiger when you're at LQ. Oh
Yeah, man Mike is uh, you can't be a tiger without having your time with Mike the tiger who meet Mike the Tiger when you're at LSU. Oh yeah, man. Mike is a, you can't be a tiger
without having your time with Mike the Tiger.
Who's Mike the Tiger?
Cut it out, Jules.
I don't know who Mike, what is this, Tony the Tiger?
Man, our mascot is a real live tiger.
Is it what, seven?
It's not the same one for the last 20, 50 years.
No, I mean he's-
You just named every tiger Mike?
Yeah, like Ugga.
That's our mascot, Mike.
See, dude, I'm going Tony the Tiger.
I'm not letting you hate on that, bro.
No.
Because look, when I tell you the intimidation factor
is a 10, because at what we do every game day,
Mike comes out of his cage, and we take Mike right over to
where the visiting team runs out.
So when you come out of your visiting locker room,
you got to go by the cage and Mike the Tiger.
And it's a real bingo tiger in there.
Sucker's probably, how many, seven, eight, maybe even a thousand pounds, a real cat.
Big cat sitting right there, so hell yeah.
Do they still put them on the field?
Hell yeah. They do?
They have them on the field in the cage.
Like that's what I'm saying, when you run out from pregame,
you have to go by Mike the Tiger's cage.
If I went to another school,
that was a really good school in the SEC
and I was going by that and I knew that was coming
Bro, I would I would get like a piece of hamburger meat and throw it at the tiger So when we rode when we would run by he'd be occupied. He'd be eating or something
I mean, you wouldn't be doing shit Mike's eating opponents, bro
With a little meat he won't he want a kid stay Julian that only coming there think he's gonna do something
Oh, you gonna eat there a nice. And they have a nice habitat.
They set up a nice habitat for him now too.
So it's like he's going to eat.
Oh, what?
Mike lives like a king.
Mike has a big cage right across from Tiger Stadium.
Like literally, you come out the stadium,
and he's got like a, man, almost like how we have
the Patriot place or whatever.
He's got a whole setup right there by the memorabilia
where you can buy all the LSU stuff.
Yeah, he's got a huge, he's got a great life.
He's got a huge cage.
He does. He does, but. He's got a great life. He's got a huge cage. He does, he does, but.
He's got a great life, he's got a huge cage.
You're a hater, bro.
We got Mike the 7th right now.
Mike the 7th, his record's 72 and 29.
Shout out to Mike the 6th, who was there when you were there.
He was 93 and 30.
Hello.
Hello.
2007 to.
His jokers live long.
October 11th, 2016. He got a chip too. Mike the
Six got a chip. So I don't know. Y'all have to look at this, but I want to say like they kind of
get tigers that might be like kind of sick or something like that and then they kind of bring
them back. Like you know what I mean? Like they rescue and get them healthy and then. I went to
that. I went to that black Jaguar white tiger place.
Oh my God dude, that's wild.
What was that?
It's this dude in Mexico that literally collects
lions and tigers and leopards.
The sanctuary too.
It's, I don't know, it's crazy.
They're like just roaming around
random other lions and tigers.
This guy's in it with them.
In the cage?
Yeah.
Yeah, wild.
Steve Irwin type stuff, but with tigers?
Mexican version.
Yeah, he's like hugging them and like batting them
and playing with them.
Yeah.
That's what you say.
I left that place going like,
I don't know if he's gonna be here very long.
Buddy.
He went into one.
I went into one with a leopard.
I'm like, I gotta get me out.
Yeah, but like Mandola. There was a leopard that shared an exhibit with that one.
And he was like, oh, if that one was in there,
it was the black one.
He's like, oh, that'd kill you in a second.
So you just put him out and you can hang out with a nice one.
Yeah.
Fucking wild.
That's not what I want to hear.
No.
I'm not going.
Last question here.
Hey, what's up, games with names?
This is James from New York.
I have a question for Ridd. What was it like playing those Friday night games in Death Valley back at LSU? Let me know. Big.
New Yorker asking...
Alright.
Jade, Rid about Death Valley? The honest answer is, and of course I'm biased, but I go back to the hundred and something thousand
screaming fans that the Motorhomes pull in
on Wednesday evening, they're cooking jambalaya and gumbo
on Thursday night, drinking Friday morning,
all to catch the Tigers walk down on Saturday.
There is no place in all of football, pro or college, that is more
lit than Death Valley on Saturday night.
It's not.
I'm just telling y'all, and if I could ever take y'all there, I would love to.
I'd love y'all to go experience it, but I'm telling you, once I got to the pros, it was
a downgrade because the kids are sold out.
Once people have been boozed up for that long
and they come in religiously week after week,
the motor homes pile in, you see a line on Wednesday night
of people coming in for a Saturday game.
Where in the pros do you get that?
You don't.
And now they put the light show in the stadium too,
where they're cutting off the lights,
and it's like a club in there,
and they're banging the boozy going, the culture's in.
I mean, it's like no other. It's the best.
It's the best.
The best in all of sport.
Even all like the English soccer hooligans
out in freaking Birmingham or something.
I will say-
Or fucking London.
Only thing we're probably missing is that flame.
You know how they light the flames up and do all that stuff?
Well, that's the Olympics, Red.
No, I've seen the soccer stadium,
they set the things on fire.
They set shit on fire?
Hell yeah, like in those soccer games.
Oh, the Hooligans.
I guess, it's like that one area
where you don't even want to be in that thing.
Have you not seen Philadelphia celebration?
They're lighting shit on fire.
It ain't touching LSU.
I think the only thing the soccer has,
like European football has on American football,
is that the chance and shit go throughout the play.
Where like in football, like, okay you stop, you got to communicate, the crowd kind of stops, but the chance go on and on and on throughout the whole game is kind of tight.
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gotta come back. You gotta do another game bro. I appreciate you coming so much.
Come on, man.
We gotta plug Rid on, get Rid on.
Steven Ridley on IG, that's with the A-N for all you people.
Yes, sir.
No E-N and no P-H, okay?
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It's not Stefan, it's Steve Van.
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It's not like Stefan from Urkel, it's Steve Van. Steve Van. From Steve Vann. Killer in the shut up. It's like not like Stefan from Urkel.
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