Games with Names - The Minneapolis Miracle with Josh Duhamel | 2017 NFC Divisional Round: Saints vs. Vikings

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Josh Duhamel is in studio! The actor, director, and Vikings diehard is with us to relive one of the greatest finishes in NFL history: The Minneapolis Miracle. Josh joins us on the couch (2:11). We go back to January of 2018 (32:44). We take a look at these rosters (40:01). We dive into the game (45:06). We score it (53:33). We introduce a brand new segment in this week's Chill Zone presented by Coors Light (1:01:38). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, people ask me if I weren't doing what I was doing, what I do. I'm like, maybe a scout. Love that. I love watching. Scout. I love following quarterbacks from like high school handsome Scout. I love following guys from high school to find out what schools they go to to Predicting which ones are gonna do well in the NFL once they get there You got to get you in there Was there any like quarterback specifically remembered that there's like that's gonna be a guy and then they went on to be someone

That was good Aaron Rodgers boom at Berkeley just never him. Like he puts it right on the money. Money. Welcome to games with names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler and we are on a mission to find the greatest game of all time. On today's episode, we are covering the Minneapolis miracle. 2017 NFC divisional round Saints. Vikings with actor and star of Netflix's Ransom Canyon and former college quarterback Josh Duhamel. We get

into talking his college football career. I threw for like four touchdowns and 215 yards in the fourth quarter. I was like oh my god I'm gonna go pro. His happy place in the woods of North Dakota. You ever ride a horse? I've trotted a couple times with my daughter. You trotted on a trot? We also get into him being at one of the greatest games in Viking history.

Miracles do happen. There's this man in a wheelchair, and I swear to God, he stood up. And then we have a new segment for the Chill Zone presented by Coors Light. You gotta stick around to the end. Let's go. Games with names of production of iHeartRadio. January 14, 2018. U.S. Bank Stadium, Minneapolis, Minnesota. The Vikings are down one on their own 39. 10 seconds left, no timeouts.

Keenum steps into it, digs, sideline, touchdown, unbelievable. This is the Minneapolis miracle. Woo. Today, we are looking at the Minnesota miracle. 2017 NFC divisional round Saints vs Vikings game with Josh Dumal. Welcome to the studio, welcome to the NUT house in one sentence, why this game? I mean, you know, I'm a huge sports fan. Duhamel.

I didn't play. Fuck that up. I didn't play, everybody calls me Duhamel, it's all good. Is it? It's Duhamel, it's Duhamel, it's Dumbel, it's all kinds of things. I just call him Josh, man. Yeah, it's okay, Edelman.

All right. Pfft. Why this game? Why this game, one sentence. This game because it was the most exciting game I've ever been to in person in my life. You were there? I was there.

Oh wow. Yeah. I was also at the Vikings game, Saints game in New Orleans. I think it was a couple of years later, where it was, Rudolph went up and made a one-handed catch to win it. So they had a couple of really good ones. And I can get into why this game.

I mean, also because the head coach of the Saints at the time was also involved with Bounty Gate. Bounty Gate. Yeah. Like Peyton. Yeah, so I'm Peyton, and I remember this dude, we were up the whole game, and then they came back and took the lead

with like 15 seconds left if I remember correctly. And he was like, oh, to the crowd, like, oh, what now? What now? I was like, this motherfucker. And then right after that, you know, we made the play to win the game. And it was like such sweet poetic justice that we came back and won, not only because I'm a huge Vikes fan,

but because we beat Sean Payton and the Saints. Ooh. Yeah. There it goes. There it is, right there. Because they beat Sean Payton and the Saints. A little something in there that we'll dig into when we get into the teams. Is this the greatest game of all time, though? This is a pretty great game.

All time. You think so? No, I'm asking you, is it the greatest game of all time? Oh, I don't know, but I mean, there's been some great games. I mean, it's probably the most exciting game ever that the Vikings made. I mean, they've been in some good ones too.

You guys have been in some great games. Hey, we ask all the guests. Yeah, I think that it's, for me, maybe it's because I'm a little biased because I was there, but it was one of those games, because the Vikings just don't do this. Yeah. They're usually the team that this gets happened to.

But this was one of those games that, this season, last couple seasons, the Vikings have kind of turned it around. They've been winning games in the clutch, which was never really our MO. No, with Kevin O'Connell, those one score games have been going your way. And this was a very exciting game,

like, and a historical game. Because I mean, we all remember, and the Saints have been around two of these crazy historic games, where the one with the no-call to go to the Super Bowl, the Resonance one. But I remember we weren't playing, I was hurt this year,

and no one could believe what happened when this fucking play happened. Like where was it tackling, where is the boundary, what the fuck is going on, who's calling what, is this real, is it scripted, I mean what the hell? It's almost like they had a Phantom blocker out there. Phantom. I mean you whiffed on the receiver, didn't you?

It did. I probably should have rewatched this before I came here. You know, you're in plenty of research. It was such a weird defensive mishap. We'll show the clip, but it was just a fun game. Yeah. And we'll get into the roster, but I liked Case Keenum.

They kind of did him dirty. Yeah, I agree. Kind of did him a little dirty. He was a hell of a player. He was, and he loved being there. Yeah, he did he's he played really well I'll never forget to that the amount of absolute excitement and and

Unbelieve just nobody could believe it. Yeah, I was sitting in this area and there was this there's this man in a wheelchair And I swear to God he stood up It was good up for a second. I mean, that might have been in my imagination. I would have felt like I remember I gave my huge hug. I was like, oh my God, maybe I lifted him up. That might have been what happened. Talk about Minneapolis.

Miracles are everywhere. There are miracles everywhere. Other incredible Vikings games recently, too. There was that Colts comeback game that happened fairly recently. 33 nothing. And then Justin Jefferson was at. Oh, my God, he's in Buffalo and he makes the craziest catch you ever saw.

Yeah. Oh my goodness. They've been doing that recently, which has been really fun for Vikings fans. We still haven't gotten over the hump, but yeah, they have, for so many years, they would just break, and they always find a new way to break our hearts, it feels like every year. We think this is the year, this last year,

nobody saw it coming. Nobody expected that to happen. People forget that it was a rebuild year, kinda. And then you guys rattle off a really great year. We're talking about Sam Darnold being MVP until week 16, and then one thing leads to another. Yeah, but he played unbelievably well. I mean, that one's a little bit, that one's, I mean,

I get it, because JJ's the guy, but he played so well, and I get that, you know, he didn't really perform those last two games the way we wanted, but it was his first time under that kind of pressure, under those lights, and I feel like, you know, he's a legit player with the right team and the right coach, sort of leading. And that was very hard for me to digest

the production that Sam Darnold had with the guy waiting, JJ McCarthy, to let that man leave the building. And if you look what he signed for, 30 mil. You know, 35 mil, it's a bridge quarterback contract. Yeah, well he lost a lot of money those last two games. He did, but to the point point does that mean McCarthy's the guy Do you believe in McCarthy you think he's the guy do you believe in what KOC sees in McCarthy?

Well, I have to because KOC is he's a smart dude our guy I you know, I went to the last couple of games and JJ looks small You know, I mean maybe it's cuz he's rehabbing the knee or whatever. It doesn't look like a big quarterback and I'm hoping he's going to be durable enough. And Sam Darnold's a big guy. Yeah, he is a big guy. When you see these guys, he's a big dude. Yeah. So I trust KOC though. You know, I do.

I mean, these guys, they obviously believe in the kid. I loved him at Michigan. He's a winner. Yeah. So what if the J.J. McCarthy starts the season, they go 0-3, they 0-2, maybe 1-3, and all of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers.

I knew this was coming. Aaron Rodgers. Decided not to sign anywhere and is sitting there. Are you wanting Aaron Rodgers. Decided not to sign anywhere and is sitting there. Are you wanting Aaron Rodgers? You know, I didn't want Farve when we got him that first time because he was a packer. But he came to us and had one of the greatest years of his career.

Fun year. And I do like Aaron. I've met him several times over the years at this golf tournament and whatnot. He's always given me, you know, this Vikings suck. He's always given me that. I was like, where'd that come from? I look over there, there's Aaron.

But so we've always had a fun back and forth about, you know, the Vikings and the Packers. And it just, I mean, with that, with how weird would that be to have him do the exact same thing that Favre did? It's crazy. I mean, he could do it. He can still play.

He can still sling it like nobody else. So I mean- Who would you rather take him or Kirk Cousins? Ooh, Rogers all day. Rogers all day. Cause Rogers is clutch, man. still sling it like nobody else. So I mean. Who would you rather take, him or Kirk Cousins? Ooh. Rogers all day. Rogers all day. Because Rogers is clutch, man. I mean, I like Kirk, I thought that Kirk,

I grew to really like the guy, but I just don't think he's the guy that's ever going to get you over the top. Yeah. I just don't. He's great, great stats, he gets you a lot of wins, he throws for a lot of yards and a lot of touchdowns, but he never seems to win that big game,

where Rodgers can, and he has. Yeah. Once. Once, but he's also come back and won a lot of big games for them. He also lost to Jimmy Garoppolo in the playoffs. In Lambeau. I'm just saying, what's life like growing up in North Dakota?

Life in North Dakota was pretty awesome, I have to say. I couldn't wait to get out of there as my younger younger years? But then I'd be in as now as a You know middle-aged man I've really grown to love the place. Yeah great place to grow up now Does everyone in that region you guys all gravitate towards Minnesota? What's the what's the sports fandom of people in the states that don't have a pro team? Like how does that work? It's usually minnesota a lot of regional fans a lot of packer fans a few few broncos fans, but it's mostly vikings It's the t-wolves. It's the wild. It's the vikings. It's the twins

It's the links Who's what was your hierarchy of sports growing up? What do you mean? What was your favorite? It was football football football and basketball. Football? Yeah, football and basketball. So it was Vikings and T-wolves? Well, I was actually a Cowboys fan growing up. Cowboys?

That's weird. Yeah, because I was like that guy who was gonna be the, you know, the anti whatever. Yeah. And then, so I always liked the, I always liked the Vikings, but, cause they were always on, but for whatever reason from a young kid, I liked the Cow Vikings, but, because they were always on, but for whatever reason, from a young kid,

I liked the Cowboys, but then, I think it was after I left, when I was 22 years old, I really started missing, not seeing those games on Sundays, and I became like my connection back to home. And I became a full-on Vikes fan. But yeah, the Vikings, I'm a huge UFC fan now too. I think that's my number two.

Number two, who's your fighter? Who do you like watching? You know, I really like Patty the Batty right now. Patty the Batty. He's pretty amazing. You know what? Who's the dude that not the, not Khabib, the guy who is like Khabib that just beat

Sugar Shane. He was, he's like- Makachev? Maybe. Is it Makachev? I forget. I forget those those those dagestanis man Do anytime there's a stand on a country? You don't like no person. No those guys are not just they're just a different level like they're just technicians They fucking practice on bears

They fuck it They really do they wrestle bears Apparently like when they were talking about this whole hundred guys versus a fucking gorilla I said, why don't we rephrase that a hundred Russians and people from those countries versus gorilla. I'm taking those people Yeah, those people are not Unmatched bro. Well, what did you look it up was a mark? I'm looking here. It's a Mirav Davos Shelley or

featuring the Pronunciation devil Sheila. I think it is. Yeah, I was back in September. Yeah, I got a question when I asked you to go ahead back to football first, yeah as A college quarterback. Yeah, I come fascinated by the fact that you played college quarterback and then went on to become this amazing NFL wide receiver. There's a guy right now from Montana State. I heard about him. What's his name?

I should know this. Raiders got him? Raiders got him, but they drafted the NDSU quarterback right before or right after him, like one pick apart, who beat them in the national championship. Tommy Mallet. Tommy Mallet, yeah. And who's the NDSU quarterback

that got drafted right next to him? They did Cam Miller. Cam Miller, he could actually be a legit quarterback. Anyway, Tommy Mallet, I remember watching this dude, he was a freshman and they also played NDSU as a freshman in the national championship game. Hurt his knee and couldn't play, but he switched from a running back wide receiver

to play quarterback because he's such an athlete. And it's just, it's one of those things that fascinates me. And I think I might know why it works because you got to have crazy athletic ability like you have. This guy's got it too in spades. But to take a quarterback knowing that you're going to switch him to wide receiver,

is it because they have such an understanding of what is happening on the defense and they help the quarterback sort of read it with you? It's almost like a quarterback at the receiver position and it makes it that much easier for the quarterback to sort of be in sepateco with them? I think that's what you're hoping when you draft a quarterback that's gonna change positions. Mm-hmm. Now for me The ecosystem that I was brought into was a little different because I was going to a winning team that could take shots on guys That they didn't have to really develop really because they had a team Yeah, you know and and so it worked for me a lot of these guys if you get drafted somewhere and

so it worked for me. A lot of these guys, if you get drafted somewhere and the team's not good and the coaching staff's got a little heat under their seat, you know, those opportunities go away and the time for development for the kid goes away because they gotta ultimately get the team ready to go out and perform its best. So a lot of those guys get lost under the rug.

But I would say that's what you're hopeful for with a quarterback that's converting to another position. Because that was a strength of mine. I always knew the quarterback tedious things that receivers would do. Not getting flat to downhill on an in cut. You know, protecting throws on out cuts. You know, giving great on out cuts. Right.

You know, giving great body language at the top of routes so you're decisive enough for the quarterback to be able to make a decision. I think that's what played a huge part, but you have to have that. Because you know what the quarterback is looking for. You know what he needs because he's see, you've been in his position so you can, you know what makes it easy for him to find you. Without a doubt, and it also comes down to processing, like processing speed.

So usually quarterbacks, if you're a quarterback, your processing speed's usually faster because you have to see what the defense aligns doing. You have to take a pre-snap coverage of the coverage and then a post-snap because you always change with the safety. Right, but not all receivers can do that. And the slot guys, guys that are working

a lot of the middle of the field, they have to. Yeah. It's fascinating, man, I love this stuff. I mean, I was just thinking about, you know, because there are these guys who are just straight burners who are just pure athletes who can, but I would almost as a quarterback want a guy who I can trust is gonna be there when I throw the ball, don't do a spot.

You know? Well that's usually the guys that stick. It's just in the NFL you get the guys that are super athletes that can do that as well. And that's the difference, there's more of those guys. And the guys that don't, they don't have longer careers. Because they're always trying to replace you, they're always trying to find someone smarter that's cheaper,

that's stronger, that's faster. That's the competition and the capitalist way of this sport. Yeah. It's American, what do they call it, ameritocracy? Ameritocracy. Ameritocracy. Ameritocracy. That's what I love about sports though,

it's a pure ameritocracy. Pure. Pure, not a meritocracy, just a meritocracy. There, now you're, you're Shador Sanders. You're super fascinated with, like you knew the Montana State quarterback. Are you watching college guys and following them to the pros? Or did this come from Minot State? I've always, for whatever reason-

Being a quarterback there, how? People ask me if I weren't doing what I've always, for whatever reason, people ask me if I weren't doing what I was doing, what I do. I'm like, maybe a scout. Love that. I love watching. I love following quarterbacks from high school. One handsome scout.

I love following these guys from high school to find out what schools they go to, to predicting which ones are going to do well in the NFL once they get there. It depends on, obviously, which team they end up with and how much support they are going to do well in the NFL once they get there. It depends on obviously which team they end up with and how much support they're going to get. But I just love that. I just love following these guys from whatever school.

I didn't do it so much this year because I was working, but usually that's what I'm all about is watching who's going to go where. What was the favorite moment of your career, playing career? What's the first thing you think about when you think about your playing career? Because you love the fucking sport, bro. I mean, I played at six.

Was it a high school game? It's so long ago now. There's something that sticks out, though. Everyone has that one play that you wish, you put over, that you did. I think what it was for me when I was a freshman at Minot State University, go Beavers. Go Beavers.

Let's go, shout out. Buck shots the man. They put me go Beavers. Go Beavers. Let's go, shout out. Buck shouts the man. They put me in as freshman, we were down, we were getting our ass kicked by Southwest Minnesota State or something, and they put me in, and I threw for like four touchdowns and 215 yards in the fourth quarter, and I was like, oh my God, I'm going to go pro.

I'm going to go pro. And then I never saw the field again until my junior year. Yeah. But no, that was like, it was one of those moments that I just couldn't miss. It was just like, bomb. And that to me was like one of those moments that I just love sports and you know,

those moments when you just get into that zone, you just can't seem to miss whether it's basketball or golf or whatever it is, it just feels easy. And that was one of those moments for me in in in At Montes State we had a good team We went to you know, we were NAIA and we went to the final four I think my soft professional sophomore year. Yes for you know, it's it's it's an AI football, but it was still football Still good football. The thing is

There's the there's guys from those Your era that made it to the league, it's just those schools are gonna get hurt now with NIL. Because if a kid pops off at college, he's gonna dip out to the Pac-12 or go to the Mac for a year, and then after the Mac he's gonna go to the Big 12. It's just a pro football now, it's crazy.

It really is crazy. We're developing a show based on all this stuff. It was called QB Gambit, based on, it focused on the quarterback position. We could do spin-offs on the receiver position, whatever, because it is, there's money out there. But the way these quarterbacks move around, and it changes the trajectory of not only his career,

but that school's path, and that conference's path. I mean, look at the Caleb Williams, Spencer Ratler, Jackson Dart scenario. Caleb went to Oklahoma, pushed Spencer to South Carolina, then Caleb moved to the USC, pushing Jackson Dart to Ole Miss. And these schools, you know. They're all rich.

Now they are, now they're not doing all right, but you know, it really does change it. It does. But you know, for schools like NDSU, who really get hurt by this NIL, this transfer portal thing, because are you familiar with NDSU at all? Well, I know of them.

Yeah, I mean, so they're like the, they're like the, like Alabama was for all those years. They've won like eight of the last 10 national championships. They're really good, and they put a lot of guys in the NFL. Trey Lance, right? Trey Lance. They have the last four, five quarterbacks now have gone to the NFL.

What's his name? Carson Wentz went there, right? They went Brock Jensen, Carson Wentz, Trey Lance, Easton Stick, and now Cam Miller. I mean, they're not superstars, but they're still going to the point. It's like, it's hard to go to the NFL. You know?

The bison. The bison. The bison. So my point is, is that NDSU, being this powerhouse of a, you know, they're one division down from the big boys, but they're really good. And every year they play one of those teams and always, usually if they don't beat them, it's really close.

NDSU now has a big problem with these guys who are popping off, gone. But my thinking is, there's also guys at Clemson or whatever school who are supposed to be the guy that aren't the guy, but are just right there that might go down to NDSU to get a real shot. Yeah. To make sure they play. I don't know that is that do you think that's a well my my university Kent State University is in the same predicament. We're a lower mid-major 1A school that was probably in the last five percent of budgeting for their for their

program which means no money, no coaches, no players, no nothing. So it's going to be tough for those schools. You're going to have to have hell of a car salesman that's going to sell to these kids. A lot of these guys are coming, a lot of these big schools. But if you go to Clemson, you know. Some of those guys aren't going to play,

they're going to want to go play somewhere. Louisiana Lafayettes and Mountain West, they're still one, they still, or go to a different and the Mountain West, they're still one, they still, or go to a different, the thing is, North Dakota State and Kent State, they're so low on the totem pole, you gotta pray and hope that the kids from the area

that comes back and bounces back. So it's just a, it's a- But don't you think that if you're at school, like I think NDSU is a special, a different scenario because they've been. Well like App State, it's like App State too, Appalachian. Yeah.

You know what I mean? If it's a really good program, because the ultimate goal is to go to the NFL. Yeah. Right? And if you're a program that might not be the Clemsons and some transfers came in that were getting all this NIL money that

knocked you out of your spot, I don't know. It just feels like those guys who are right there, maybe the second stringers might want to pop down to. Definitely, and they might get a little check. You know, you get the local Arby's to give them 50 grand. Yeah. Or, you know, the car salesmen give them some stuff.

But then you get them for one year, he balls out after that, and you're trying to get the chemistry. Where's he going to go? Yeah, true. You know what I mean? Well, I think, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I think you're right, because the chemistry. Where's he gonna go? Yeah true, you know, I mean, it's just well I think I'm sorry. Go ahead No, I think you're right because like having North Dakota State be kind of like a backstop for quarterbacks

Yeah, like how Alabama was for coaching staff for a while Yeah, you have these head coaches go out flame out T You do a coordinator position under save it and then they get the head coaching job So maybe that can be yeah backstop because they are because they've been so successful There's still a launching pad to go to the NFL. It's maybe not Clemson or Alabama or some of those ones. Don't you think that these schools, there's got to be some regulation on this.

It's still the Wild Wild West. There's no rules. I don't mind it, actually. I think these kids should get money, and they should have the ability to move around. But they should have to, there should be some kind of contract. They shouldn't be two years.

There shouldn't be two transfer portals. That's, if you're going to sign with a team, you shouldn't have two free agency processes. This will start getting to be like pro football. When they unify, when the union, when the kids unify, whatever they call it, and then someone's going to come out and try to make some kind of law for this,

whether it's the NCAA, whether it's the two conferences of law for this, whether it's the NC2A, whether it's the two conferences, the three conferences, whether it's Nick Saban. There's no laws to even break right now. So these kids, if you're a kid, you do the same thing. You gotta do what's best for you. But until there's laws made, but no one knows who's gonna make the laws and no one knows who can enforce the laws

because everyone's terrified of getting sued by, you know, the workmen's whatever thing. Like, it's just the wild, wild west. Until there's some regulations on this, this is gonna be crazy. Yeah, and I think that there should maybe be, like you said, either you can't transfer twice or you have to stay at school at least two years.

There's gotta be some kind of regulation. Yeah, it's not a contract. Maybe a contract that makes you, like that way you're just not bouncing from school to school. And I don't think it's a good thing anyway for these, on the one hand I think it's a good that they should be able to make money and move to where they have the best shot,

but I don't necessarily think it's good for them. You look at like Brock Purdy and some of these quarterbacks that stuck around for four years, they're so much more ready when they get there. Like Carson Beck, I'm worried that dude is just, he's making, he's all about that money. Are these NFL teams gonna think that's a good thing? It is a little bit of a red flag

when guys are starting to hit adversity and just jumping shit. You know, you want your guys to feel failure and that's something that I'm sure that the people that are evaluating these guys are having to adjust to. Because it's a new generation, it's a new kid, it's a new type of person. Every old generation says that the same thing

about the younger generation. There's the same thing about me being on Instagram, the first guy in the locker room on Instagram from the old cast, what the fuck are you doing? Like it's the same shit. You know, it's, it's, we'll see where it goes. You're doing workout videos, bro. I know.

I actually, I'm posting like my meals at that point. It was like 2012. You know you were doing TikTok dance videos before. They didn't have TikTok yet. No, you're doing, you're the first one. No. Putting on that Sepulcher filter. I see you doing TikTok dance videos.

Ha ha ha. Just to put a quick button on what Josh's original point here. 500 players have transferred just this off season from FBS down to FCS. So we are seeing it. Also going from the from down to okay. Yeah, 500 so far. And NDSU would be one of those schools that would go because they have a real shot to go to the tradition.

That's my I mean, that's a one. That's just a theory, but maybe I'm just wishful thinking. No, I like that. You gotta pursue the scout thing, man. Right? You were on the money. We gotta get you in there.

Back to the scout thing, was there any quarterback specifically you remembered that was like, that's gonna be a guy, and then they went on to be someone that was good? Aaron Rodgers. Boom. At Berkeley. I mean, he wasn't that big of a stretch to say.

No, but he just fell. I just remember watching him, like, this dude can, he puts it right on the money. Even in college, he was like so beautiful. He was so high. Remember he used to keep his ball real high. He used to throw to one of my hometown friends, Jonathan McConan. Shout out.

We used to work out together and he was catching balls from Aaron Rodman. Bam. I was at Berkeley. I liked Berkeley, that's where I grew up. Oh really? I grew up in Northern California. Where in Northern California? Redwood City, so I was like right next to Palo Alto

on the peninsula, but I always liked Berkeley because of Aaron Rodgers and those teams. And they were always pretty much the better team out of Berkeley and Stanford. Stanford didn't get hot until I left. I lived, when I first moved to California from North Dakota, I lived in Roanoke Park. Yeah.

You know that is between Palo Alto, or Petaluma and Santa Rosa? That's north, man. That's north, yeah. It's up there. Yeah, that's so like. But I dated a girl from Palo Alto. Yeah.

Yeah. Love that. Did you go to University Street? I don't remember. Take her down to nice little. I just, I don't know. I was so in my heart back in those days. I was just like, I was like this kid from North Dakota

dating a girl from California. Hell yeah. Look at me, mama. Look at me now. So you're from North Dakota, you played football, you have an infatuation with sports. How the hell did you become an actor? You know, I think I always had this dream about doing it.

I think like a lot of people, like, you know, growing up in North Dakota, you don't have a lot of opportunity for that. It's just like you're, there's no entertainment avenues for anything like that. So I just thought that it would be, I dreamt about, you know, that would be cool to be in a movie. But then I was, you know, as I got older, I moved to California to go to, I was trying to go to dental school in either UCSF or USC or one of those schools,

that's at least what I told my mother. But I think I had this, I just wanted to go dip my toes in the water to see if I had the guts to do it more than anything because I was terrified. I was so new to California, to the whole thing that I just wanted to see, wanted to feel it out and I think that that's how I started

and then I ended up getting an agent that started sending me out on TV commercials. I modeled for a second. It was pretty, it was pretty. I think my mom saw you bro. I know my children I was on that for three years. I know I think G she still be talking about you dog Leo Dupree it was uh but that was the Soap was that was few years after all there is a lot of

lot of Equity a lot of, uh, rejection before that. And then I got the job and all my children, moved to New York. Did that for three years, but that was the best thing that ever could happen to me as far as the acting stuff, because it's like bootcamp.

You know, you literally, cause I was so green when I first got there. I didn't, I couldn't even believe that I was going to be literally, because I was so green when I first got there. I didn't, I couldn't even believe that I was going to be on TV. I was like, oh my God, I couldn't believe I got this. I was like, holy shit, they're going to be watching me at home, I'm going to be on TV.

And I remember, that's all I could think about when I was first walking out on my first scene. I was like, oh my God, I'm going to be on TV. And I had my leather pants on, and my mohair and turtleneck sweater. Oh, that's swag. And my long duster leather jacket. I was like this Euro trash grifter.

Fuck yeah, dude. That was, was that your moment? That was that your moment? Yeah, that was my moment. I had to walk on stage and I had to be like, walk out this, it was in this restaurant scene with Elizabeth Banks. Oh wow. Whoa.

It was like her first thing too. It was so weird because it was like we were both brand new. And I was this Euro trash grifter trying to get a free breakfast. And she says, and I remember, I still remember the line, I was like, good morning Rosalie. Hey, good morning. Breakfast was so good that I thought

I'd come back for lunch. Oh really? Riz. That's it. Oh wow. You almost got me. And I needed like four takes because I couldn't remember that. It was like I was so nervous.

Good morning Rosalie. Lunch was so good I thought I'd come back for, no sorry, breakfast is so good. I'm sorry, can I try one more time? There it is. There's my leather duster. There's Elizabeth leather duster. There's Elizabeth Banks.

Young. Young tall. I look exactly like that still, don't I? Yeah, yeah a little bit. So yeah, that was the beginning. Man. So. A long time ago now.

Would you ever want to make a movie off a specific athlete or like a sport movie? What's your dream sport movie or athlete to play? Fran Tarkenton. Fran Tarkenton, I used to love Fran Tarkenton. I never saw him play with my dad. I always talked about him. I don't remember him either. I think I was too young.

I was too young, but I love. I'm 38. Yeah, I'm 52. Look my age, bro. Yeah, gotcha. Couple Look my age, bro. Yeah, I got you. A couple hunks on the couch. I don't know, it's a good question. I'm trying to think of what that might be.

You gotta be a quarterback. Maybe the Brady movie. Maybe we make you the Brady movie, the Brady biopic. You could play a 40 year old Brady. You could play easy, a 32 to 45 year old Brady. We could get your ID It's kind of it's kind of like It's kind of like a sport movie, but it's also like a mushroom movie

Psychedelic yeah, it goes into like a mushroom movie. A psychedelic movie. Yeah, I like that. It goes into like some weird psychedelic thing. Well, there's some soap opera shit in Brady's life too. Yeah, what is it now? I don't know. I haven't been following it. I don't know. Me either.

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Let's go back into time around where the game took place. January 14th, 2018, the 2017 season, but it takes place in 18. Always confuses us here. Always confuses people. In the NUT House. Be included. Number one movie, Jumanji, Welcome to the Jungle.

You know what? I liked it. I liked it. I was a huge Jumanji original fan with Robin Williams, RIP. R-I-P, love that guy. That was pretty good though. They gave some homage to the old one, right?

Right? Number one song, perfect by Ed Sheeran, featuring Bibi Beyonce. Shout out. I don't remember that one. I don't either. Do you remember that? I don't really remember this, Jumanji either.

I think these movies and songs are worth moving right past. Paddington, my daughter loves those movies. I, Tonya was great. I, Tonya never saw Showman. Itania was great. Itania was great. Paul Walter Hauser. You should watch that. I know. We just had Paul Walter Hauser on the show.

I remember when that went down. Yeah, me too. I was like in third grade. Nancy Kerrigan. Nancy Kerrigan. That's a crazy. What a story. What a crazy story.

That's a sports movie right there. You know what it is? I'm gonna change my own Roger's name. I'm gonna go with Baker Mayfield. Ooh. That is a great story. Big show? This dude.

Heisman Trophy of this year? Yeah, but think about this dude with his career. He walked on at Texas Tech, right? Balled out. Balled out. Went to Oklahoma. Then decided to walk on at Oklahoma. He didn't have a scholarship when he went there.

I think that was sort of like the... We'll have one for you maybe. He knew he was gonna get one. Balls out there, ends up winning the, the, the Heisman Trophy and then goes on to be the number one pick. And you want to play off game for the Browns. You won two playoff games in the conference, which people don't realize that's not, that hasn't been done that often.

Dude is a winner. Very similar to, uh, what's the is his name, quarterback for the Eagles. Hertz. Hertz, Jalen. Yes. Alabama, Oklahoma. Grinders, yes. That dude also I have mad respect for

because of what he endured. So you must like Ward then, because he's a grinder. He was a zero. Yeah, Cam Ward. Zero star. Zero star. In high school.

Really? To the number one pick. In corny word. I haven't paid much attention this year. I haven't watched him as much either. It's a late quarterback year. But that story right there tells me like he's got dog in him. But do you remember Jalen Hurts when he lost the job to Tua?

Yeah. In the national championship game. Yeah, it was this year. Didn't make a peep. Next year he comes back, right? Didn't he go back to the next year? Oklahoma. Didn't play again or did he leave that next year? He sat behind Tua the next year.

I think he did sit behind Tua the next year, then he transferred. But even when he sat behind Tua, he was still a total class act about it. I always really respected that dude for that. And then to see him do as well as he has in the NFL is pretty cool. Do we think Baker Mayfield will ever win a Super Bowl?

I don't know. Tampa? I like that new receiver they just got. They got some receivers. That's a conference where? I don't know. I like that new receiver they just got. They got some receivers. That's a conference where you can come out strong. Yeah. I wouldn't put it past him. I wouldn't bet against it.

I wouldn't bet against him. But I wouldn't put it on it. He's a grinder, man. I love him. Yeah, let's jump into this game real quick. These games and break down these teams. Let's get into these Saints real quick. These were the Sean Payton led Saints

when 11 and five here. See, Tennessee South. real quick these were the Sean Payton led Saints when 11 and 5 here talking about The dr. Blitz, what did they call him the bounty gate guy? There anymore. No, he wasn't but he was there when the year that they played the Vikings in the in the NFC championship And they took they took far about remember that yeah, I do in the NFC Championship. And they took Farve out, remember that? Yeah, I do. A little hot sauce on it?

So you kept that to it. So I already had a thing for him, and then for him to like do that, after he thought he was gonna win. Oh yeah, what, what, what? I was like, this motherfucker. Can you explain to us the skull clap? When did that happen?

When did that start? I think it comes from Iceland. 2000 years ago. Yeah, it seems very Nordic. It's just a thing that they've always done, that they adopted about 10, 15 years ago. Is there a a thing that they've always done that they stayed. They adopted it. Is there a lot of Scandinavian people there? Oh, yeah. It is North Dakota, Minnesota. It's all it's all Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was Alvin Camaro's rookie year. Marcus Lattimore was a beast this year. Some other names out there. May and Trey Henderson. Trey Henderson. Trey Henderson? I forgot he was on the Saints. You forget about the Saints here. I forget about the Saints. He balls out in Sinsey now, but remember those.

Ted Ginn, Cam Jordan. I mean, this was a... Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas. A little bit of a bridging of the eras with the Saints here. This kind of ushered in the Saints we know today. We trained together at the Speed and Strength in Euclid, Ohio. That's right, baby.

And they're back after three, seven, and nine seasons, back in the playoffs for that drought. So I played with a lot of guys that played with Sam Bratford, and every guy says how good he really was. It's a shame he could never stay healthy. Because they were lighting it up with him the year before or something.

He was doing well, and then he got hurt again. Yeah. Put up crazy numbers. Kind of like Carson. Carson was, he started out fire. I always loved that dude, too. I feel like he could have won an MVP. What do you remember about these Saints teams other than Dr.

Blitz and Bounty Gate? Well, I mean whole their whole trajectory changed when they got Breeze. Yeah. You know so they were and you got to give you got to give Peyton credit because he really got that team believing because they were terrible for so long. Yeah. Breeze, Peyton they really sort of turned it around. Young Cam Jordan, Michael Thomas was getting a hundred head seasons like it was his freaking job. This was like the start of it. He went 104 and then I think the next year he went 125.

Then the year after that 150. He's just stunned. Is he still playing? No, and then after that it never happened again. Isn't he relate, he's a cousin or nephew of? He is a nephew of Keishon Johnson. And then he is also, let's break down these Vikings, Jack. 13 and three Vikings, best season since 1998.

The 15 and one team. Randy Moss is rookie year. We all remember how that one came to an end, unfortunately. Shout out Randy. Yeah, Chris Carter. We're still too soon. Falcons. Too soon.

Still too soon. Dalvin Cook, rookie year, balled the heck out in his first four weeks. Got an ACL injury in Detroit. Latavious Murray and year, balled the heck out in his first four weeks, got an ACL injury in Detroit. Latavious Murray and Jerrick McKinnon filled in to make a pretty darn good backfield. They were, Sam Bradford went down week five, Case Keenum took over, came in and balled out himself, 10 and one in his absence. That's Bradford that is. First playoff buy since 09. So they were getting that buy as the

number two seed and then the second year of US Bank Stadium. Also Adam Thielen. Adam Thielen. Stephon Diggs. Diggs. Can't not talk about those dudes. Looking great. Now he's our guy. He's on the pass now. Is he? Yeah, we got digs. No kidding. Yeah, we just signed him. Just signed him, yeah. We signed him 17- Who's getting into your quarterback? Drake May, maybe? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, young bud. That's right, that's right.

He's paired up with Josh McDaniels. How's he gonna do? I think he's gonna do better this year. Yeah. I'm really excited. They addressed the offensive line, which they needed to. You gotta protect them before anything.

I like the little Hendrickson out of the backfield, the Ohio State running back. He's really good with past protections. He's really good in the pass game. We just so happened to have the guy called plays who threw the ball to running backs 14, 12 times in Superbowls with James White and Shane Vareen. Don't forget about Marshall Falk. All time. Great. Third down possession receipt receiving running backs. You you're gonna be paired up with that. I'm excited, I'm excited.

Frable at the helm. I do think May is gonna be a good quarterback though. You know, he's got a lot of the stuff, he's just gotta go do it. And Frable's their head coach down there. Frabes. Wow, that's cool. You ever met Frabes?

Never. He's a cool dude. He seems like a great, he's a great coach. He's like a big grizzly bear. Yeah. We go to the derby, we went to derby a couple times. He just looks like a, he looks like a head coach, doesn't he?

Dude, the guy's got a pack of skull in his lip with a heater. Fucking, the guy is, he's everything you want your head coach to be, but smarter as a whistle. You know, but also will fucking alpha you. Smarter as a whistle? You said he'll alpha you. Yeah, he'll alpha the fuck out of you. Yeah, he seems like that.

He just because he's done every story as a head coach. He got a lot of passes. Remember those touchdown touchdown passes? Yeah. In the Super Bowl, I think he's got two or three in the Super Bowl. Yeah, insane. I never played with Vrabes, but in our locker room He had a he had this legacy about how smart he was but get back to the Minnesota Vikings Sam Sam Bradford gets hurt Case Keenum comes in. What were you? What were your thoughts coming into this game?

Honestly, it's a blur Until that that last catch. I just remember we were up. We're up. We're up. Oh my god. They're coming back Oh my god, they took the lead with 15 seconds or whatever it was left. Who you at the end was like they did it again. So, um, friends like what I was with one of my buddies, probably Bob Schwartz or Greg Cheddar, one of those guys. A buddy game guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

So you bring one of the buddy game guys always one of those guys. And so you guys, what do we are we pre-gaming in the fucking tailgate? Yeah in one degree weather. Oh, yeah shirts off beers up. Was it the year before that? that they the Walsh missed the field goal against the Seahawks No, this is the site. There's been two years after that Yeah, cuz they went eight and eight and miss the playoffs here before that that the year before that they played outdoors at At the Gopher that. Yeah, and the year before that, they played outdoors at the Gopher Stadium.

Yeah, that was so fun. We played there. Yeah, 15, 16 season. What time of year? Was it cold? No, it was the first game of the year. We went, and it was fucking hot though. So that's why this was so great,

because you're talking about 98, when they went 15 and one, heartbreak, and then however many times after that, and then the two years before that and then you know the two years before this which would have been 2015-16, Walsh misses that kick 27 yarder to lose it to lose the game oh I forgot about that. Here we go this game we're up and then they come back and then we then took for digs to make that catch and to win the game was just nobody could believe it.

The place was on fire. Oh, man, it was unbelievable. A guy that was in a wheelchair stood up, you said. I might have picked him up. I don't remember. That's why sports rock. What's the go to refreshment and food item at a stadium? Are you in a box? Are you are you with the regular?

I have season tickets. Season tickets? No, no, no, I'm not. I don't a box? Are you with the regular? I have season tickets. Box season tickets? No, no, no, I don't ball like you. Man the people. Oh, yeah? Ball. I don't have a ball. Ball is.

No, I have these seats that I got ever since they opened the stadium. They're not even real low, but they're in this great little balcony area where you can get out. It was like only two rows, and you can kind of get out and go to the bathroom or go get a beer. Do you know like the chauffeur lady that because you go all the time like, hey, Debbie, how you doing? Honestly, I haven't been to those seats. I've been to a couple of games these last couple of years, but I've given those seats away because I had friends that had boxes or suites or whatever.

So we'd go do that. But they, yeah, they take great care of you at that stadium. They really do. Now, when you know it's a hot dog and beer, hot dog and beer. Can't go wrong. Good hot dog over here. U.S. Bank Stadium. Probably good with sausages. You know, you got you're close to that sausage world.

What's the regional beer in Minnesota? I Personally, I love bush light push light. I'm a bush light guy. I like that my type of guy. That's our kind I think it my type of guy. I was more of a natty guy. That's all I could afford but When you're not at a game What's the watching? When you're not at a game What's the watching? Spread what how are you watching game? Are you watching with people that know football? Are you having fucking parties with all these Hollywood a-listers because you're an a-list You know, are you having people that don't love the sport there?

Are you fucking buddy game only my boys? We got nachos beers and we're watching the fucking game Which one is it? You know, it depends. I don't really have a lot of, I mean, I have a bunch of friends in Los Angeles. I've been here for a long time. But if I'm going to be hanging with a bunch of guys, it's usually my guys back home. Love that. Or it's at home with my wife, my son.

I've turned him into a total Vikings fan, which is great. Good dad, yeah. Good dad. You know, it just kind of depends. There's no real, we've been moving around a lot the last couple of years, so we're at the cabin, or we're here, or we're somewhere working. So I just try to find, I love a good sports bar.

I find a good sports bar, where you can see all the games happening. I'm in a pool, I've been in a pool for the last 15 years. That's a lot of fun. So we, I don't bet much. It's mostly just my pool. We play against the spreads and that's it. Yeah. Like the pool stuff. Survivor action. I like that. Jackie, break down this game. Well, this game can really be summed up by being a tale of two halves. I know that sounds cliche. I love this. But honestly, 17, nothing at the half. Getting after Breeze all first quarter, sacks, stopping the run,

doing whatever it takes. The defense was flying around Harrison Smith, all the guys, you know, pressure in the middle of the pocket. Pressure. You can't see. Can't see he's up on his tiptoes. Zimmer's over here dialing all these ETT games dialed up. Second half, though, starts to get hot with Michael Thomas. Game starts whittling away at that lead.

You get a Keith Keenum interception at the end of the third. Not good. Midway through the fourth, we got a blocked punt. Oh, shit. And we know the stats. If you block a punt in the game, some experts say you have a 90% chance of winning. 90?

Some experts say. Some of these statistician cats. You're Ernie Adams, if you will. If you will. So, we hit a field goal, the minute 29 left, shout out to Kai, 23-21, Minnesota's back up. 29 seconds left, big stop, big stop on third down, third and one, forces the New Orleans field goal, drill it,

we're down 24, 23. How many seconds left? That's 29 seconds left. That takes us to third and 10, our own 39. With 29 seconds left. Now it's down to 10. Okay, yeah. We're down to 10 seconds.

Two plays. Two plays. 19 seconds off. Yes, get out of bounds, everyone's thinking. Everyone's thinking. We're down to 10 seconds. Two plays. Two plays. 19 seconds off. Yes. Get out of bounds, everyone's thinking. Everyone's thinking. Big chunk, get out of bounds. Celtic, let me get three to the sideline. Is that what they say?

Diggs was probably even thinking of getting out of bounds. Right. But then he realized there's nobody around me. I mean, it's going to keep running to the end zone. Zimmer is like, get out of bounds. Third and 10, 10 seconds left. No timeouts. 39 yard line backed up to the corner.

61 yard. Bomb, the catch and run, digs. This tackle. Minneapolis miracle, baby. It was unbelievable. Place goes wild, guys that are quadriplegics can stand. You name it, anything can happen. So after the game, are you planning, we're going to the NFC championship,

did you go to the NFC championship? Was it when we played Philly that year? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember going, I remember being outside. I think I posted, Dilly, Dilly, we're going to Philly! This was Dilly, Dilly. Fucking Dilly, Dilly. Dilly, Dilly, we're going to Philly!

Man, how do you celebrate a game like this? Like that. Oh yeah, and it was freezing outside. We were so excited to go to Philadelphia and then just lay an egg. Lay an egg, and then I see you two weeks later at the Super Bowl. Oh yeah.

We were out and about. That's right, that's right. How fucking freezing was that Super Bowl? It was minus 11. Yeah, yeah, it was a rough one. I was really upset that we weren't in that Super Bowl. I thought for sure we were gonna go. That would've been crazy.

It would've been great. Because look it, LA won the Super Bowl in LA, right? Yep. Tampa won it in Tampa. Yep. This would have preempted that. This guys could have started that kickoff. I know.

What's the fallout of this game, Jackie, the aftermath? This would be the first NFL playoff game to end in a walk-off TD. The Minneapolis miracle. Hold on, before we do that, the Falcons Super Bowl 51 ended off with a walk-off TD, too. Is this just like a regular? This is before.

Yeah. Oh, it's before. No, it's not before. No, it's after. Yeah. I think it's over time. Regulation. Regulation, yes, regulation.

Regulation. Okay, fine, sorry. No, no, no, all good, all good. The Minneapolis miracle, I mean, that became a trademarked phrase. Everybody knows that one. All-time sports lore. Minnesota would fall to Philly in the NFC Championship game,

unfortunately, and the Eagles would then defeat the Patriots at US Bank. In Super Bowl 52 minus Jules, 41-33, we couldn't get a stop to save our lives. I don't think I could have helped the defense. Hey, I've seen you out there at quarterback. You were hurt. How'd this go down again?

I tore my ACL in the preseason. But that's right, so you were there, but. Cause you were hurt. How'd this go down again? I tore my ACL in the pre-season. But that's right, so you were there, but when I met you. We were just out and about. I think you saw. Cause this was what, a day or two before the Super Bowl. Before. Super Bowl festivities.

I was like, I'm hanging out with everybody cool at that Super Bowl. I'm hanging out with the battlemen. Yeah baby. Yeah baby. Josh, Josh, what's up dog? Oh fuck, Josh, what's up dog? Oh fuck, Josh. It was at the armory.

Was it JLo playing? JLo was playing, right? Someone was playing. JLo was performing. The armory, I remember the armory because my buddy Ross Goulette, that's where the Lakers used to play when they were in Minneapolis.

Yeah. That old armory that we're in. Cool. And now they've converted into this great little venue for musical concerts. And he's the guy that did all the AV, all the sound and all the video in that place. I wonder.

It just rocks. I wonder how technical Beyonce's people, how hard it was maybe to work with them because they probably wanted like pitch perfect. Well it was JLo right? JLo or JLo. Yeah, yeah, it was JLo. Same thing.

I think it was JLo. Regardless, those, you know those, they want that shit. Oh she likes things, she likes it to be, she's very, she's, Oh you worked with JLo. I have worked with her and she's great. Yeah.

She really is but she's a perfectionist man. Perfectionist. I like that. You need that with her. And she's great. She really is. But she's a perfectionist, man. Perfectionist. I like that. You need that for greatness. No, you can't hate on that. What's the legacy of this game, Josh? I think this is when the Vikings started to believe that they were, we could,

a couple years ago, we were close, too. I don't know what the legacy here is. It's tough. You know, it's sort of the same story that we've always had to kind of deal with the Vikings there. This is that game that, you know, oh my God, this is the year, this is the year. We're going, we're going all the way,

and then boom, the next week we did it. You know, so I try not to get too high or too low. I do believe that KOC's got the right stuff to get this team there, I really do. I think he's an amazing coach. He seems like an, I've never met him, but he seems like a great guy. B-Flo on D, D Brian Flores Flores on defense

He's crazy mean They've got the right guys The sort of leading the team. It's just a matter of it's hopefully it's just a matter of time because you know, Minnesota deserves a Super Bowl They think it's the most winning team ever to won a Super Bowl Yeah, they've been the four, right? Been the four of them. I think they have the most playoff wins and the most wins for any team that has never won it. I think.

Something, some crazy stuff. I have a pitch for the legacy of this game. And I think it's as a casual sport or as a Patriots sport, I'm not a Vikings fan or whatever. When plays like this happen, it makes every single game you watch better because you know that it's not over to the end. You know that this can happen because you've seen it. So like when your team's down two scores

and it's looking bleak and there's a thing here and you're third and 15, it is a touch of hope because you've seen someone do it at some point at a high level. And so games like this really make the sport better. Every single game. Legacy of this game is a new hope. A new hope, yeah.

Is that a Star Wars movie? Yeah, it's the first one. I like that. Let's name the game, The Minneapolis Miracle. There's no other names for this. There's no other, there's no other. We usually give options, but. Wasn't there another one, another miracle in Minneapolis?

Seems a little, I didn't love the name of that. I think, I think PA, Paul Allen named it that the Minneapolis miracle. What do you would you name it? I think it it that, but I think I would have gone with Minneapolis Miracle. That rolls off the tongue a little better now. But he had to do it in the moment. This was right there. What would you have gone with?

Minneapolis, or Minnesota Miracle. Minnesota Miracle. I like the Minnesota Miracle more. That's what we're gonna call it. How about the Minical? The Minical. Ooh, whoa. A little bit of a poor minto, if you will.

Minicle. I like that. The minicle. The minicle game. Score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Josh, stakes of this game, divisional round,

one to 10, decimals okay. You know, I'll give it an eight. You know what, that's an integrity test score. I like that. That's a very integrity score. It's not the Super Bowl. The stakes aren't all the way there, but it give it an eight. You know what, that's an integrity test. I like that. It's not the Superbowl, the stakes aren't all the way there, but it was a big one. It's the winner go home.

Yeah, yeah. It's winner go home. I'm going with an eight as well. I like that. I went with a nine, one. I went with an eight, seven. Okay. Star power.

Who was at, you were at the game. Who's at the game, the players on the game. What do you mean, you're talking about the players? Star power, however you want to think of it. Anyone in the building. Drew Brees. Drew Brees. Who's at the game, the players on the game? What do you mean, you're talking about the players? Star power, however you want to think of it. Anyone in the building? Drew Brees. Drew Brees.

Hall of Famer. I mean, Keenum was not a star. He was a hell of a player, but not like a big name. Right. Diggs was not really a star yet. He was good. A lot of future stars. Yeah, a lot of future stars. I think Peyton and Breeze are probably the two biggest names in this. I'll go with, I'll give it a six. That's an integrity score.

Integrity score. Pro score. I'm going to go with a six, two. No, you're just copying me. Oh, six, two. I think I meant six. I went seven, one. Oh, six, point, two.

A couple seven, one. Me and Jack both of the seven, one with Jack. Gameplay. How the game went back and forth. This say the seven one with Jack. Gameplay how the game went back and forth. This was a great game to watch. It was. This is a 10. The pendulum were swinging baby. I'm going to go.

9.1. It's going to score high. This is going to score. It is at an eight seven at an eight eight. The name of the game game the minnacle game The cultural impact of this game to cultural impact of this game. Okay, I think I'll give it a nine very good That's a good score. Love that score. That's a great score Josh. That's a top. These are pros 9.3 score

Yep, really here at games. What do you what are you basing this a lot of people come in like Mark Cuban Just oh, it's all tens. Yeah, it's the best ever. It's like come on. It's a game five But let's I'm gonna go with 8-5 I dig it 9-5 for me. I had a 9-3. Where is this? This is gonna rank high. Where does this rank on our list? So it's deservingly so. 8.32. It's a fun game.

Oh, baby. 8.32. It puts it at the new 27th, just behind the shrug game, the 1992 NBA Finals, game one, Blazers versus Bulls, and just ahead of USC 52, Couture versus Chuck Liddell. That was a good one. That was a real good one. We had Chuck on here to talk about that.

Oh, you did? The Iceman. The Iceman. Iceman. He was badass. Could you Chuck on here to talk about that. Oh, you did? The Iceman. The Iceman, man, he was badass. Could you imagine, he was talking about going to his kid's soccer game and some kids were yelling at his kid? Can you imagine Chuck Liddell over in the side with his fanny pack and his goddamn mohawk

and you're yelling at his goddamn kid? I would watch what I was saying around that guy. Cauliflower ears, you just don't mess with those ears. You don't. You especially don't mess with their kids. With mohawks. With mohawks. The cauliflower or mohawk combo.

The second you see those ears, you're, I'm out. Josh, we miss anything with this game? No, man. I think this was, I think we covered it pretty well. This is, I'm really glad we had to talk about this because this was one of my, this is one of my core memories. This was a freaking great game to go over. I mean, this is especially,

I was playing during this time, and this is an exciting historical game that everyone likes to talk about, and it'll go down for a long time, as it should. These are fun games, like Kyler said, gives teams hope. Yeah. Gives them hope that hey, it ain't over till the fat lady sings.

Can we say that anymore? Yeah. Fat lady. The plus size singer. Plus the podcast. You're good. Everyone. Gotta go check out Ransom Canyon on Netflix now.

Watch the first episode. Fire. Lot of good stuff. Yeah, go to gatlin.com baby. Gatlin.com. Gatlin.com. Now I wore some Wrangler and I tucked in my shit because I wanted to be a little cowboy for you.

Oh I appreciate that. You could have put on a hat and some boots. I had them. But I chickened out. He did earlier. I didn't know if he would take me serious. Probably would have melted. Stolen Valor.

I am going to have you come on the show. Let me know. Hell yeah. Do you ever ride a horse? I've trotted a couple times. This is how you do it. I've trotted. Maybe you can wrestle some cattle or something.

Some steer. I like that. I'll fucking do something. You're a steer wrestler. I'm a company guy. You let me know what to do, coach. Everyone check him out on social media, Josh Dumal. Duh-mel.

Duh-mel. Duh-ham-el. Duh-ham-el. What is that? It's French. The French say, Duh-mel. Duh-mel? Duh-mel.

Duh-mel. Josh Dumal? They were just talking about you on this week's episode of the studio. I heard about that. So I had your name dialed in pronunciations, and the joke was that they were mispronouncing your name. So this week, I was like, what's the real fucking-

I haven't seen it, but I want to see that. It's so funny. It's so good to watch it. Oh my God. Well, everyone go check them out. Thanks for coming on, bro. Thanks for having me. Always good to see you. We'll be right back after this quick break. I'm Soledad O'Brien and on my podcast,

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Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Man. So cool. He's got aura. Aura, baby, I was just gonna say. He got aura.

I love Josh, he was a beast. Just cool. the whole show I couldn't help but think like him like walking around as like an 18 year old in like, North Dakota And all these like the 2,000 people in his town being like he's gonna be a movie star and then he did it Boy really did it. We didn't get into him Handsome that it made him a movie star. It was the elephant in the room. I'll say His answer miss. Yeah, it was It was cool, dude. Cool guy. Oh ball. No ball. No ball. Although to be a Cowboys fan

That was weird. I didn't be like counterculture to be a Cowboys fans a little yeah What do you be the only hipster in North Dakota? Like she's got to go against the crowd man But maybe if you like the Cowboys in the 80ss he came back around we'll give him that one and his show on Netflix I've been watching it I like it some cowboy energy in it yeah James Brolin I wanted to ask him like what do you have to what do you do to get in a depressed he had to be depressed like his wife dies in the first episode his kid dies in the first episode. Spoilers. Spoilers. Like and then he's got his high school babe that's trying to take him out this little filly truck or a mare as I learned. A lot of horse talk. You know I've been you know

my daughter likes horses. We're listening to horse facts. Anything under four is a filly and then after that becomes a mare. What's a gelding? Don't know. That'll probably be on the next YouTube. Yeah, we're the pitch Josh. We're talking movies and sports movies. We remake the scout with Albert Brooks. Instead of going to Mexico to find a pitcher,

it's Josh going up to North Dakota to find some little D2 school guy. I could see this. See, I didn't want to give away the goods when Josh is here. He would be a good scout. Remake it, baby. I like this idea. He, I didn't want to give away the goods with Josh. He would be a good scout. Remake it, baby. I like this idea. He could be like a guy.

But he does like Aaron Rodgers. Is he too good looking to be a scout, though? Billy Beam. Brad Pitt. Yeah, I was going to say. The real guy don't look like Brad Pitt. Brad, he played it, though. It worked for them.

I mean, he could be a former player that got hurt. We could make that in there. Could have been the guy. See, I did. It's proprietary info. So I didn't want to say it with Josh here. You never know. He might tell a next thing, you know, I'm cut out of the deal. Yeah, it's on Netflix. So just save it for the trust. It does happen a lot. Keep it in the nut house. No one will internalize it. Looking at you, Peyton Manning. We'll talk about it on the next, our next brainstorm session. Then we'll go to Josh with it. Then we'll go to Josh.

As a united front. Well he's loosely attached. No, we cut Josh out of it. Oh what? Yeah, that's all he would attach to. Oh no, we attach his names without asking. Yeah. That's what everyone does.

Yeah. Yeah, see? It's gonna be a big function picture, kid. You wanna be a movie star, yeah, you see? We're over here in Tinseltown, kid, hey. Hey, I'm gonna get you a three picture deal, kid. Got you out of it, just use your name. We'll just give you a Cadillac, you see?

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you know, this is about the rule. Before we go into the segment, we got a new segment. What is the second? Before we do that, this episode will be coming out. It'll be a week from today recording it. So this is like the today's episode, the Julian got elected to the Patriots Hall of Fame. Yes.

It's going to be a week later from when it actually happened. But just for games with names, congratulations. Thank you guys. Congrats, brother. Well deserved. Get this man a red jacket Didn't think I had a chance boys Old Minotaur and Logan Mancun's honored to be in the sentence with those boys

Bet against him bet against the night. It's it's really cool. I mean, it's pretty darn cool. I think everything happens for a reason Me being brought to New England and me being the kind of person I am, I became a person of my environment. And to get to learn from Bill Belichick, Josh McDaniels, Tom Brady, Wes Welker, Randy Moss, you know, all those, the Matthew Slaters, the Rob Ninkovich's, Devin McCordy's James Whites You know to get to learn and be around those guys you had no choice but to bring your a game every day because they always did so it's it's pretty freaking cool you know you ask me coming out of Kent State would I be a red jacket guy probably Probably say no. First of all, congratulations. So proud of you, bro.

It's a it's an honor to have been just a small part of you doing that and getting to see doing that. You know, social bugs. This is awesome. So congratulations, audience. We're going to talk about this more on a more recent. So this is go back, watch dudes on dudes. We got to do math, but there's more in that later. You had an awesome point in the voice chat that you have about the red jackets being like a British thing. Yeah. And but Patriots fought the British. That's what I said. One of the first things I said and I told the group, it's like yeah, you know, RKK just called. I'm in the Hall of Fame

But honestly, why are we getting red coats when we defeated the red coats as? Patriots, why don't we get blue coats? I guess it's not as cool everyone. That's like the standard blazer It's it's a difference maker. What about like a metallic silver blazer? Oh No, I'd be too gonna put on my shark skin Jackie. Yeah, like yeah, I'd be too going to put on my shark skin Jackie. Yeah, like I'd be too much I I get the red the same goes with the jurors like the Pat the Patriot throwback Jersey amazing But they're written me. Yeah. Well, you ever see that clip years ago some like mr Kraft is like in his like golf cart going through like a tailgate and a fan goes up to him is like Why the hell is Pat Patriots like the mascot? Why is his number zero?

Mr. Krabs like oh it is there. He, like the mascot, why is his number zero? Mr. Krabs is like, oh, it is zero. He's like, what should it be? It's like, it should be number one. And then Mr. Krabs goes, oh, okay. The next year, he goes from zero to one. So maybe this is a moment you talk to Mr. Krabs, and why is his blazers red? I'm not gonna, no, I'm not gonna say anything.

It's an honor. It was just a random thought. It was in revolutionary war history mindset. It's my Roman Empire. But it's an absolute honor. So many people to thank. You know, so many people part of it. It's a team thing to get there. My family, mom, dad, It's a team thing to get there. My family, mom, dad, brother, sister, a little baby girl, Lily, inspiration. And all the people that were involved

in helping us prepare as athletes. Marianne and the Meal Lady girls that prepared our food and took care of us in the dining halls to Murph and George the the two old guys that used to clean up our laundry that we used to fight all the time almost like to you know, Jimmy Whalen and the medical staff Josh Jim Joe Van Allen and Granito and all the doctors so many surgeries, so many,

the crazy thing is when you're a professional athlete, you become so close with these medical people because you're getting fixed up all the time. Dr. Theodore with my feet, Anderson with my knee, Asnis, can't forget Dr. Daddy, he came up to me and said, you know, hey, let Dr. Daddy take He came up to me and said, you know, hey, let Dr. Daddy take care of this. I'm like, what the fuck?

It's a free game, bro. But I like that. Moses, Harold, all the guys in the wait staff. Oh, Wysik, when I was a young guy. Heck yes. Scotty O'Brien, love that guy. You know. Heard he's got a boat.

He got a bunch of boats out in Wisconsin. Love that. He got a bunch of boats. Chaddy O'Shea was my position coach. Ivan Fierce, first guy who worked me out. Scarnecchio, I heard he stood on the table for me at a juncture of my career. But it's pretty cool.

How cool was it getting to call Frank and talk to it with Pops? I don't know, I'm not really good at that stuff. I just called me dad, I made the, you know. I shot it at 87. I shot it at 86. I made the haul. Yeah, something like that.

Yeah, you lead with the most important news, 86. Awesome, and of course, break 90, bro. Fucking grinding. Dad, I got some great news and I got some good news. What do you want first? No, but it'll be fun. It'll be a fun day for my family. I don't know when we're doing all this stuff, but my daughter,

it'll be cool to see her like she's at an age now where she'll, yeah, I honestly think she understands how good we were as patriots. She's too much in this La La Land with Lakers and Rams and all this weird stuff. You know what I mean? She don't understand that. We were the baddest organization.

Sit down and watch the Thai law episode. And the hazel maids. Yeah. You know, 20 and Nays. Yeah. You know, 20 years of excellence. Amen. Hell yeah. She'll learn. She'll learn.

Hopefully. We'll have to do something when. Hopefully one day. Whenever the inauguration or thing is, we'll have to do something in Boston. Thank you guys, the fans, man. You guys, you know, it's a really cool place to get to play for.

And I've said it before that the New England community, Boston, Providence, the New Hampshire, the Vermont, the Mount, where's Mount, where's? Rhode Island. Bangor. Maine. Maine. Bang, you know, all the areas of New England. Did you get them all?

Connecticut? Well, Connecticut, half of Connecticut. Yeah, Rhode Island. You get some weird Pat's fans that are Yankees fans. Giants fans, yeah. From our trip, sure. And then you get to Connecticut. But. Don't trust them.

You know, I say it all the time, you guys welcomed my family and I and made us feel like we were part of your community. And now when I fly back to Boston, I feel like I'm going home. And more than I do when I come here, or my house that I live in now, you know, I go back to my condo in the back bay.

Yeah, baby. That's when I'm like, all right, I'm at home. I'm fine, I feel that's home. It was there for so long, for 12, you know, not not specifically that place but I was in Foxboro for four years and Mansfield and You know Plainville and North Attleboro You know all the the relationships you've gained You go up to Marblehead up north, you know, you know the

it's just it's really cool and honor to be with some of the greats, with the greats of the organization, which some could say the best organization. You earned it, brother. You're going to with, with Bill Parcells on a quick exchange, I think, at a camp practice. I would love to have him on the show. I think he may have said something to me. I don't remember, but... He was known to do that. Yeah, no, like some kind of like Parcell shit. I know, yeah.

You know what I mean? I'm excited to get to have a conversation with him and You know, he's a he's a football legend and and you know Huge cornerstone of the league. I mean you hear the trees a lot of the bills trees comes from Parcell's true Yeah, you know and then there was Bill Walsh and Parcell's those were the trees It's crazy, you know all go back to the trees baby. I'll go back to the trees. And it's crazy, you know, all go back to the trees, baby. All go back to the trees. Should we do this? Today, we're introducing

a little something new to our postgame segments in honor of Josh and his buddy games, franchise, real life event. We're celebrating that in his love for the lake with a little thing we're calling starting five. Not just for basketball, we're making starting fives applicable to anything you can think of. And today that is going to be our starting five partners

we would like for classic yard games. And we are pulling from a pool consisting of former games with names guests. So I'm playing lawn darts. Oh, who am I picking? Oh, let's go in there for all those kind of let's go with Dola because his hand on the starting five because elite hand-eye coordination for any kind of beer game, paddle game, catch game, Joker Squirrely, Table Game, all that. So Jack, this is like the best five of a thing from a pool of people. Yes, we have five plus a bonus.

So these events are inspired by buddy games. So think like camping, yard games, cookout games. Yes, and in quasi-draft fashion, Kyler, Jules, and myself will all pick someone to go in our starting five and pair up with us. Yeah. From this, from the pool of former guests. Former guests, would you have to be your best cornhole? Partner, I suppose?

Partner, yeah. Player. Well, you gotta go with quarterback, right? Yes. I mean, my thoughts exactly. What's up in the backyard with the sling? Oh, that's a great pick. Fuck.

Yes. He's about breaking fingers back there. And you know that guy likes to drink some wine and play some cornhole. You just get the touch of buzz on so just easy peasy. I bet you he gets better with by the minute. Oh, you know it. All right, Jack, who you going with? I think I'm going to have to stay in the... Wait, am I going with Drew Bledsoe?

Yeah, you got Drew. If you don't, I fucking will. Yeah, if you don't, I was going to take him. You take Drew. I think I'm going to... Tom will get mad at me if I pick Drew. Well, Tom's not our guest. Oh. So. Oh, sorry, Tommy. I'm driving the cookout. Never mind. I think he just did another podcast. Was he getting his nails done this time? Last time he was getting a haircut.

Haircut. Geez, Louise. Acupuncture next week. What are you, in the, I'm gonna stay in the quarterback room. So where'd you go? Did you go Butza? No, I'm not, I don't know yet. Okay. This is for cornhole. Yeah, it's for cornhole. Yeah, I'm going Eli Manning I think you lie down in the SEC man. He plays some cornhole in his day He still has drink a beer chill to cook out, you know Hey, that's a great pick Eli. You might forget Eli was against I got the way back What do you got going big shot Bob? Oh That's where I was gonna go. I love that Robert Ori

You know that Joker can throw a cornhole and I don't miss especially when you know, it's it's a it's a 1918 Game we're going to 21 The Joker's gonna 3p. He doesn't need a miss in the clutch. I'm going with Drew Buzzo. I love it All right, I fall we are moving on to spike ball. Little more physical, little more movement here. Still gotta be athletic. Gotta be clutch. Oh, I know who I got. Lay it on me.

Gronk. Oh, I love that. Gronk loves these types of games. Gronk could just body anyone out of the way. I feel like Gronk is like an investor on something. No. Gronk was always really good at like, cause we used to do a lot of this shit in,

like after OTAs. Where we'd all sit there at one house on Payson and fucking, we just, we weren't drinking or anything. We were so bored we'd make little activities and I'm sure Cornell was there all the time. Payson Buddy games, I love that. Yeah, we'd do shit like that. Heck yeah, Gronk is a monster at this.

And he going body everyone great range great hand-eye coordination I Think I'm gonna stay in the vein of big bodied athletes. I'm going scowl, baby Oh, I like scowl good with the hands. That would be a good matchup It would be on Gronk like a box him out. I would like to see that how cuz scowls like 610, right? I think so big dude. He was big big when he came in We see where Scowell's okay, and I'm gonna go with I think I'm going Danny M. And Dola here Oh short area quick when we zig you're zagging. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go zig you zag on this here. I like it I like that guy. I also by the way, my team has already got the best vibes

Dola and Bledsoe. Are you fucking kidding? This is true some cool dudes there badminton. Oh bad another fan favorite. You may have I fucked your load You guys you gotta have the hand I here. Oh We're gonna have some quickness. Who do we got? Who do we got? for hand I Know I got oh, I know who I got. Oh I know who I got. I'm still looking, hold on.

I'm taking this. I got this. Hold on. I got Bearge. Bearge, okay. Oh I love that pig bro. Bearge is insane at paddle sports. He was one of the ringers in the locker room at Ping Pong.

Wow, I never knew that. So he's good at Ping Pong. He's great at badminton. He's probably really good at badminton. And he's like in that culture. It is. So like alternative. And he's in great shape. Great shape.

I'm going Puka Nakua. Alternative. Battle sports. I love that. Puka is going to be pretty good, too. I bet he's young. He's going to have so much energy. And he's going to be a great vibes guy. Also vibes. I'm driving for vibes. Yeah, I like that. I think I'm going with. I'm thinking he grew up playing this back in the backyard.

I'm going Tom Papa, playing this back in the backyard. I'm going Tom Papa, baby. Tom Papa. You know, he's a cookout. You know, in the backyard, he's got a loaf of bread. My daughter still talks about that bread that day. That sourdough. Oh, croquet. Another. I know. Classic yard game here. I know I'm going with this.

Where you going? I'm going paint manning. Oh, I love it. Like darts out there. You know, he's going to be out there fucking giving hot routes. Oh my God. Guy guy.

You go. I'm just thinking about the fit. When you're playing croquet, man, you got to have your khakis. You got to have your tucked in. Maybe a sweater over the shoulder. I'm going Ernie Adams. Ernie.

Get out there, Erndahl. Erndahl. I'm going Ernie Adams. Ernie! Ernie out there, Erndog. Erndog. I bet you Ernie's played a bunch of croquet. What's the fucking thing he wears, the pattern? Oh, oh, um, Searsucker. Yeah, Searsucker. No, it's Searsucker. No, it's Madras.

Madras. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ernie and his Madras shirt out here. Ernick can know his way around. Okay, I'm gonna go stick and ball sport here. I like this. So I'm thinking, not Jim Craig, cause he's goalie. Ah, yes.

Biz or Sean Avery. Now to Sean Avery, he's kind of a vibes guy, but is he going to disrupt the locker room? Dude, I guarantee. I'm going Paul Bissonnette. I'm going Biz Nasty. Wow, I like Biz Nasty here. Aves is the kind of guy that if he's on your team,

you love him to death. Oh yeah. And he's a great, probably great vibes guy for the team. Yeah, but Can you imagine a conversation between Sean Avery and Ernie Adams Sure. Well, what is this one? Cans and oh can jam. This is the one where you throw the frisbee got to go like into the little hole in the can Kind of the spike ball the new era of these games. I know who I'm going with. I'm going to go, I'm going to go first here. I haven't got a minute. Danny DeVito. Oh, I love it. Freaking DeVito legend.

Great episode to you. Great episode. Really? And now I know you're not a GM that takes winning serious. Why he's saying you use for your vibes, you know Sounds like vibes guys. We're just going to have great vibes in the locker room. Don't care about winning Who's gonna be closer right? He doesn't have to go up or down. You know, I'll figure it out nice and straight You know I'm taking David Ortiz. I like it. You know fact down in work. He's from the Dominican Republic They love frisbee on that beach. That's a good play those dudes are so good with frisbee. I bet you he got trick frisbee shit There's a chance that he's never seen a frisbee in his life. I guarantee he can frisbee the shit out of something dude

I'm struggling here because I myself Horrible frisbee guy horrible have no interest I accept being terrible at it, but i'm gonna go with a former football player a guy that knows how to sling get Get the guys to sling the rock. Let me go. Josh McDaniels here Daniels, you know, josh has got hidden. He likes this this these family activity Barbecue activities he does and former quarterback? He's probably doing it on a time off in the Cape. He's got kids. Also, you know the visor is a tactical advantage here.

It is. He might knock it into the hole with the hip tip of his visor. Oh, giant Jenga. So this is the last one. The sixth man Jenga. I know who exactly I'm going with. Lay it on me.

Oh, and Nikki Glaser. Oh, Nikki Glaser. Oh, Nikki Glaser. Yeah, because she's not only gonna have surgical hands, if you listen to her stand-ups, she talks about that kind of stuff all the time. She's got surgical hands, like steady hands. I don't recall that. Like an operator.

I like that. A surgeon. But also, when the other people are going, she is gonna talk so much shit that it's gonna make you nervous and she's gonna come up with the wit to make you fucking just sweat in your pants. Rattled, bro. Rattled, too easy.

She's gonna have a speedo on because you're gonna be swimming on through your head. Wow. She'll be swimming through people's heads. I'm going with a man that is unflappable that I think he can withstand any Nikki Glaser joke. You're gonna take my heads. I'm going with a man that is unflappable, that I think he can withstand any Nikki Glaser joke. You're gonna take my pick.

I'm going Howie Long. Fuck, that was good. Sorry, sorry. Howie is unflappable. Pretty good. I was gonna say him or Billy Oh. You know, I do have some insider info on Howie. Oh.

Is she good at yard games? No. He has a weakness for Nikki Glaser jokes? No. There was a couple, you know, we had a little thing together. Nikki Glaser jokes? No. There was a couple, you know, we were, we had, you know, a thing together. Did knock over a couple things a couple times.

I'm just saying. How old? He's big. Clumsy, howie? I don't know if it's clumsy, howie? He's just big. That's true. He's got big hands.

He does. Those are, I mean, he's, those hands have been fighting for a long time. He's an old boxer. Damn, I'm rethinking my picture. But if anyone could do fighting for a long time. He's old boxer Damn, I'm rethinking but if anyone could do it how he could he could I know he'll be assessing the entire area Oh, he'll eat that he'll be able to take the laser shit talk She might get intimidated by how he just hope he has that steady touch She might think of him as a father though because how he's got like dad vibes. Yes, big time He's like she wasn't she saying all kinds of crazy shit

up to her dad on that road trip? Oh yeah. Her dad's a champ. Yeah, maybe this, I don't know. I think Nikki might get him. So I'm thinking lineman here. I'm thinking like Matt Light. I'm thinking maybe Rich Ornberger.

But you know what? I'm gonna go with Josh Demal. I love it. He's good at these games. I think he's good with this stuff. He's a Buddy Games guy. He's done these things. He's a pro.

See, I wanted to, I really wanted to ask Josh, what's the gold medal standard cheese pizza of yard games that can settle any score? Is it Whiffle Ball? Like what, you know? Horseshoes. Horseshoes. Cornhole. We should interviewers. We should ask them. That's on me. A real jerk store moment there for me. Okay so here's our teams. Jules had Robert Orr for Cornhole, Gronk for Spikeball, Bears Nigerian for Badminton, Peyton Manning for croquet, David Ortushi Kanjan,

and Nicky Glazer for giant Jenga. I like that team. Jack, your team? My team is Eli Manning for cornhole, Brian Scalabrini for spikeball, Tom Papa leading our badminton charge there, Ernie Adams for croquet, Josh McDaniels for can jam,

and my sixth man giant Jenga, Howie Long our man. And my team is Drew Bledsoe for cornhole, Danny Amendola for Can Jam, and my six-man Giant Jenga, Howie Long, our man. And my team is Drew Bledsoe for Corn Hall, Danny Amendola for Spike Ball, Puka Nakua for Badminton, Biz Nasty, Paul Bissonnette for Koke. And Danny, they should have switched. They should switch. That would be, but you can't.

Sorry. I got Danny Devita for Can Jam, and Josh Duhamel for Giant Jenga. I don't want to like, my team is the best team. No way. Oh, bro. It's a lot of enclosed. The only thing you have is that Eli's never beat

Blood So in Cornhole. Other than that, you're done. Barish has taken Puka and Tom. Peyton, he'll fucking will his way against Biz Nasty. Who's winning? And Ernie, come on, Ernie. Who's winning each one of these? That's actually Ernie, mate.

Who's winning corn hole between? Eli, all day, bro. Eli's taking that thing. Eli's taking that, okay. I'll give you that corn hole. Robert, orry, dog. You guys are tripping. Big shot, Bob.

He's so tall. Yeah, but he's probably clinical with fucking doing the same thing over and over. Big shot, Bob, not big toss, Bob. Yeah, he's big. Look at this, he can do this in his sleep, honestly. And he's got the reach, he does have a good reach. Dola wins spike ball.

Whoa, over Gronk? Yeah. I don't know bro, Skal's in there throwing bows in the post, bro. You guys are delusional. Is there anyone more comfortable shirtless in the sand than Danny Amidola? Grawls is

Guys Tanner than tan scoundries at SPF 90 you're not seeing Rob Rob has the tennis body I've ever seen nice He was on the mama's hey Batman. I'm gonna see bears here There's a bear I think they're not even close Not even close. You know he knows the fucking wrist. Shuttlecock, shuttlecock. Croquet. It's going to be, this is going to be a good game. I think this is Peyton Manning. I think this is going to be a good game.

I think this is Peyton Manning. Is it Peyton? I haven't won a single one yet. Okay. I like your rationale for drafting bids. You know what? I think Ernie might have played. Sticking puck.

I think Ernie might have played, might know how to play croquet. He might have lettered him in his backhand. He was varsity croquet at Philips handover. Can jam. See, I think thisnie might have played, might know how to play croquet. He might have lettered him. He was varsity croquet at Phillips and over. Can jam. See, I think this is. I think you win this Jules, David Ortiz. I don't know, Mickey D is pretty. A deserter.

And also, whoever's playing against Danny DeVito ain't not gonna laugh. This is true. And concentrate. Yeah. Also, he doesn't have to like bend over to like protect. He just puts his arm out. Just right there. I just see him with glasses on that are going with little windshield wipers because so wet. What is the line? The juice. Yeah, the uh, his uh, his uh,

jersey mics. I fucking. It's your night bro. Tonight is your night bro. I love Danny DeVito. He's the best. Jenga. That's easy. I fucking, it's your night bro. Tonight is your night bro. I love Danny DeVito. Oh he's the best. And then Jenga. And then Jenga, that's easy. I think I win this one. Josh DeMal. I do like, I don't love my Howie pick anymore,

no offense, Howie, still love you. I don't know man, Howie might intimidate them both. I know, you gotta have that. But then he has a charisma that where like, they feel like they're safe. Right. So maybe they'll feel too safe safe and their arms will be too loose and it'll make them clumsy now I like it better, but Nikki Glaser, you know, she's played Jenga. Oh for sure, but giant Jenga She's played giant Jenga with probably some raunchy stuff on those Jenga things Nikki's tall too

So I think she'll never good. He's not vision of the whole board. She's like 5'11", she's taller than me. Nah, she's probably 5'10", same height. That sounds about right. 5'10 and one quarter? Something like that. Well, that was fun. That was fun. That was fun and that was the Chill Zone thanks to our favorite beer Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit CoorsLight.com slash G W N. Celebrate responsibly. I was gonna do a Josh Duhamel. I was gonna do Duhamel like beer drink. You gotta do it like a cowboy face. You got a good cowboy face. Bro, you gotta be on season two of that show.

Hey, he said it. He said it. You're like the, there's like one like arc, episode arc, if you're like the, like the um, rodeo guy. That comes into town and like ruffles some feathers. Yeah. Start a couple bar fights. Maybe hit on one of the girls. What are you looking at over there? Josh.

Yeah. He like do your, spit your dip right looking at over there? Josh. Yeah. He like do your, spit your dip right on his cowboy boot. Yeah. Takes place in Texas? Yeah, supposedly the hill country of Texas. Hill country in Texas? Go hang out with Danny for a while.

I like that. Method act. Well, what a game and thanks again to Josh. That's been another episode of Games with Name. Subscribe on Apple podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts. Comment a game you want us to do, and remember, rate and review.

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