Games with Names - The Patrick Chung Episode

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

Patrick Chung is in studio! The 3x Super Bowl Champion and 11 year vet is with us from The DUNKIN' Nuthouse in Boston. We get into battling with Rob & Jules in practice, Oregon football, and a whole lot more. Patrick also picked a Dude he wanted to talk about: Hall of Famer, Brian Dawkins. We find out what kind of dude Patrick is using our patented Dude Questionnaire in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, thanks for having me, guys. I missed you. Let's go. Dudes on Dudes is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome back to the show, everyone. This is Dudes on Dudes. And today we're joined by our good friend, my Krypton Knight on the practice field,

and a good teammate of ours. Jamaican-born, three-time Super Bowl champion. former Patriots team captain and Oregon Duck, who I used to face off against back in the day. We go way back. Our friend, our family member, Patrick Chung,

ladies and gentlemen, how you doing today? I'm doing good, man. How are you guys doing? Good to see you guys. Good to see you, bro.

The dreads are banging. The dreads are banging. Yeah, come on, bring us through those dreads. I mean, you didn't have those while playing, but.

Yeah, he had them in the very beginning. There were many dreads at the time. Those are many dreads. I remember when they were a little. Those are the real deal now. Tutsi rolls. Yeah, you had Tutsi roll.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, so we can go. Let me see that Tutsi roll. You said, don't say any dumb shit. Was that dumb? That was kind of funny. I like that one. That's what we're talking about.

That's pretty good. Before we get tired, though, let me tell you. I've kind of been slow a little bit today. But whenever I'm slow, it's been like my whole career with you, Patrick Chung. When I see Patrick Chung walk in that room, when I see Patrick Chung line up against me, it doesn't matter how slow I'm feeling. It doesn't matter how beat up I am. you always brought the juices, you know, through my body.

Like whatever juice you had, my body would juice up and I would be going against you. And I knew I had a juice up because you always brought it to the table. So I appreciate that. I just wanted to say that. And it's still to this day, we haven't gone against each other in five years. And the moment I saw you, I said, oh shit, as Patrick comes, let me get on my A game because he's going to be bringing it against me. And he might jam me right when he sits down on the podcast show.

I got to be ready at all time. Yeah, we used to do that all the time, bro. It was always little gronk, big chunk. We always had $100 bets. Interception was two points. Touchdown was two points. Incompletion was one point. A catch was one point.

And whoever had the most points at the end of the day got 100. Never paid each other. But we, you know, competing, like you said, like I just, ah, I just hated you sometimes because he'd moss me. I'd be like, fuck you, dick. Sorry. I can curse, right? You can curse.

You shithead you. and then I just, and they just go back and forth. So I feel you, man. You made me better, too, bro, for real. I love what I made. I love when I made a nice catcher, like, that's right, bitch.

That's right. And I would tell all the other defenders, because it would get everyone going because it would get you mad, but then what would get you more mad is I would just walk up to, like, Dron or, like, McCord. I'd be like, that's where I, you know,

chung's my bitch today. And they're all like, oh. You know I hate that word. You know I hate that word, too. What is it like trying to cover Grong? Because you, you battled with him daily and me we used to fight at least once a can yeah you guys always fought we fought oh me and you yeah we guys would really fight yeah yeah we're just little fight

you guys would really fight and we never actually really fought we no correct yeah we never have he would try to set the tone for the period for the defense aside i would try and then you know sometimes we would never brother-in-law when we were going for the force he knew i was coming in for him exactly he knew i'd come in for him and i knew that he knew i was coming in for him and i knew that he knew i was coming in for him, so I had to get him hit. Yeah, and in practice, sometimes you'd give me like a little, uh-uh, and I'm like, Jules, stop it. You're like, it's all good, bubs.

The next player, I'm like, Jules, you're going to stop this shit right now. And we'd argue, like brothers, and then go in the locker room and just laugh about it. Yeah, and laugh about it. But going against this guy, not to blow your horn here, you know, that's not. I'll take it. No, that sounds very suspect. Come on. Yeah, that's fine.

But. You're going to blow my horn. Yeah. But the dude is big, he's tall, he's strong, and he has his range and he can catch. And like, trust me, right, it's hard to defend that. When you know someone's quick, you adjust your, how you cover. Someone's just big and slow, you adjust your cover. Now you have someone that's big, athletic, can catch, and has the range.

Then you have a problem. Or in Arizona, we play it. I've got to tell you people this story. Coach says, Coach Neal, Oregon, goes, hey, you got to cover Grong. I'm like, all right. Like, I didn't know he were at that time. Yeah, no one really. Yeah, I'm a senior.

I'm like, all right, I'll cover him. This was my breakout game. Yeah, hey, dead ass. I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'll cover him. He's like, all right, well, no one else can cover him. I'll say, I'll cover him. So first, first series, get a pick six on Grom. I'm like, cake, well.

You don't know why? Because I did a whip route. Yeah. You don't have me do a whip route. It was a whip route. It was a whip route. Hey, the rest of the game, I think it was like 18, 20 catches on me, bro. I was like, holy crap, who is this guy?

Who is this guy? But for your take, man, I was on fire that game. There's games where I'm on fire and it's like no one can stop me. I don't care who it was. And you got me at my best, no lie, when we came to Oregon. And it was one of the craziest games because we were down 35 to 3. And then we came back and it was 42. We made it 45 to 42.

And my brother was on the team as well at the 4. ballback position. He had a couple catches up to seem as well. Those play actions where he runs at the linebacker and then he just slips him and goes right up the middle and Willie two at Tomah hit him for a couple. We came back 45, 42. We were driving fourth quarter with

about Willie Tee. Yeah, Willie T. baby with about four minutes left. Fourth and three and a running back rolls out. You guys forgot about him. Willie T. lofted it over to him and it went right through his hands and we all just got deflated right there on the spot. It would have been one

the craziest comebacks in college football history it would have been it would have been but you guys won but but let me tell you man that was my favorite place to play it was like playing in buffalo you know you feel like everyone's on top of you it's a true football atmosphere there's no like sweets or anything really it's loud it's a small stadium it's a bowl they're on top of you i walked away from that game i was like yeah we lost but that was one of the coolest games i've ever played and because of the atmosphere the comeback and just my brother bawling out and myself as well that game so we go way back way introduction to each other was in the pack 12 or pack 10 at the time don't ever say pack 12 yeah well it's not it's not even existed anymore yeah it's gone yeah fuck the pack 10

i had 12 catches 143 yards one t d and i'm pretty sure you got drafted to the patriots that year second round i was like but he was the first pick we were drafted we were the same yeah yeah we were the same yep same draft there's a bunch of us me you hoyer derries dougar ron brace Sebastian. Who, we had another lineman. Rich Ornberger? Rich Ornberger, but they're, um, he's hilarious. Bussy, yeah, we had a good little class.

We had a good class. Myro Piro. Miro, pyro. He was good when he was good. When he was out there on the film, Miro Piro. You got an Orrberger story? So many, but all I know is the man was great at like 19 years old. Full head, but he was.

He was so funny. He was like one of those people that wasn't trying to be funny, but he was just like hilarious. Just look at him. He just had some slick comment to him and just boom. 1,000 percent. But he was witty as hell. Can you settle this for us? I keep on telling people that coach was super biased and super favorable to the defensive side. He's a defense of coach. So he knows. He's harder. He's harder on the defense. Hey, Patrick, we're playing like the Tennessee Titans with Derek Henry. Is this a run team or a past team? Run team, coach.

All right, gronk. How about what coverage did the offensive coordinator do when he was an offensive assistant at UOP? That's fair. That's fair. He won that one. You know what the fuck? That's how the question is. It doesn't matter to cover.

Just throw him in a ball. And then I would say something. You know what I mean? You're right. He hits you with that. You're like, you wake up in the morning like, God damn. You're asking me this right now, like 7.30. Like, come on, coach.

Yeah. Come on, coach. My body still hurts from the last game. I know. I can't think. I can't think right now. When your body's hurting like that, you can't think. You ask you a question on the spot.

You're like, oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I want to go to sleep. You remember the rookie dinner? Yes. Why would you remember the rookie dinner?

because I had to pay the most of it, one, and two, Tom comes in. We're at... Capital Grill. Bro, Tom comes in. I want to say he ordered, like, three bottles of wine. They were like $700 a piece of some crazy thing like that. I think he got like a $15,000, like a $10,000. Came in and just, I think he just took a sip or two and then just left.

Yeah. And me and Darius, I remember this, me and Darius Butler were sitting down. Someone ordered Louis 13. Both second rounders, so they had to pay the most. pay the most. And they left. And I remember looking at Darius and I'm like, fuck it. Money as well, just get drunk. And we just drank everything. Like, whatever. We had no cars. Everyone was driving. So it was like. But you got really fuss with that dinner. Because you were you were first pick in the second round. So it's not, you had to pay for it. I paid 25 grand.

But you weren't even a first rounder. That first rounder should have been paying. Well, back then, back then it was the first pick. That's messed up though. Yeah, I know. What did you pay? I paid like three. grand he didn't pay no fucking three grand 1,000 percent I had to pay at least three grand how much was the dinner total my signing bonus was 40 grand I gave you literally like 120th of my fucking my money well thanks for the percentage I appreciate Jesus I remember we did ours when I was a rookie McCordy how I couldn't even make it I was pissed off like and then I had to send McCordie a check oh dinner that I didn't even make like I had family in town

and they like they made it like oh rookie dinner like two days before I was like I already have something scheduled that day. So I couldn't even make it. I sent him since I was the second guy drafted. I was like $8,000 I had to send over to McCordy. So I got away kind of, you know, with an easy pass. I think you're doing okay. Yeah, I'm doing fine.

I had no complaints, no complaints. I was like, all right, McCordy had to pay like what? I was like, oh, okay, $8,000. Oh, bro, yeah. I'll take it. I paid a lot of money that day. Now, Chung, what's the biggest thing you took from Coach Belichick as a defensive coach or as a coach in general. Priorities. Priorities. I would say that. Like you have to put things that are

important first because there's going to be distractions. There's going to be girls. There's going to be, you know, like, you know, my life, the court and all these things. There's going to be distractions and all those things. But you got to put certain priorities first, football or off the field. Because you know I love Bill. We've talked about things off the field that have helped me as a man as far as putting priorities first and, you know, not dealing with all the nonsense. You know, that's what I learned most. He's teaching us to be good football players, professionals, have accountability and all those things.

But at the same time, he does teach us how to be men outside of football if you can carry those things over when you leave the building. So that's what I got from him the most. And he's, people think he's an asshole, which he was an asshole. But he's also a great assholes. he's a great person that you learn so much from you learn so much phone all you got to do is listen he's he's honest yeah he's very honest and people don't like honesty nowadays people don't like honest yeah i would say i would say the point where he just crossed the line was like when he was an

asshole for like an unnecessary thing like all right veterans you have curfew and you got to stay in the hotel and you're like yo i live like i live closer to this stadium and i'm like so proven like can i just stay at home nope and it's like you're like okay that's just unnecessary you loved that like you loved all the other moments of him being actual coach being like the asshole coach because you learned so much from it it was just when he just took it up and that's for for no reason you're like what the fuck that does prove a point i feel yeah prove a point same thing like when you cuss tom brady out that day i was like it's just tom fucking brady you know but you know you got to make an example so the practice squad guys are like hey he doesn't care

he just wants to win you know he's gonna he wants to bring the best out what was that brady cuss out oh it was just like a practice like um the what guys wide open over here yeah i can't even find you know how he talks and can't even find the opening guy and blah blah blah yeah yeah that was it and that was like i'm like you did a rookie skit where you did bill with us right oh yeah let them have i remember you we because i think i was like b flow or something or because someone was scotio someone was b flow right allen well that wasn't our class are talking about when we were doing skits oh okay and then then armburger made fun of uh matt lights uh soby commercial where he was in like a fucking all white i don't remember that i don't know that one

i know jules has a pretty good memory with all this somewhat somewhat somewhat no you really do yeah but the coaches like it we'll make fun of them yeah like undercover they like it they like it they like it it bonds everyone together for real yeah and everyone's fair game everyone's fair game well you got to be smart when you're taking the shots at coaches you got to make sure you got the right person doing it exactly rookie doing it

you're up at 4 in the morning writing skits yeah if you can convince a rookie to do it you're fucking him over and you love it even more you're like all the other rookies gonna blame him too you got to take us through the debut room what was it like with the McCordies all the dbs that you played with

harm like Explain to us who was the asshole, the jokester, the serious guy, this, whatever. Just go through and give us the DB room. First of all, we get a smart room because obviously, you know, Dev, Jason, Duran, everybody, Jay Jones, everybody. Jay Jones. So the jokester, Devin. Devin. I was going to say he's an asshole, but go ahead.

Yeah, yeah, no. What type of jokes? But he's a jokey asshole, asshole, huh? All right. Asshole jokes. Just real subliminal, like real, like, real, like. like low key, just like taking a jab, but kind of funny. Jab guy.

He's definitely a jab guy. Yeah. Jay Jones was quiet. Quiet. He's quiet. Rarely talks, but he knows what he's talking about. Talks because the corners are over here, his safety's over here, but we're still talking. Out there, like, preparing for his flight test and shit.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then Jason was quiet, too, but he was like a more leader's kind of saying things. But he'll say some slick-ass shit, too, because obviously they're twins. Yeah. But Devin was just, you couldn't stop him sometimes, couldn't stop him. No, Devin Belichick. Yeah. And then Steve's behind us.

Steve's behind us. So that's pretty much Belichick behind me. And I'm me, you know me. I'm always like just, I can turn it on. But most times I'm like, I just want to go to sleep. So I'd just be sitting here because I know all the defense. I know what the linebackers are doing. I know what the deans are doing.

I know what everyone's doing, corners are doing. And I'm just like, hey, Pat, what's this coverage? I'm like, sorry. What's this coverage? I'm like. That's probably how it was in the meeting room, too. Fucker shit. And I'm like, hey, one rat juggle.

Yeah, right. I said, cool. So I was like the chill and I knew everything. No, no, for real. You were like that. Yo, 10 minutes before practice. And he was like one of the hardest conditioners too. 10 minutes before practice.

I'm like, I'm looking at Chung. I'm like, oh, yeah, he ain't covering me today. This dude's sleeping in his locker right now. Literally, we get up to the line of scrimmage and you're still like kind of like Daisy and like sleepy. And I was like, boom. I'm like, you look to get it off the lines. I'm like, what the fuck, dude?

I just saw you sleep. Yeah, I just saw you sleeping there. You just come out of nowhere. You can turn it up at any time. You weren't fooling me with those fucking smoke screens. That's why I just came in hard every single time, motherfucker. Every time. You come in me and hit me one of these.

And I'm like, where the fuck is he about to go right now? And I'm like, God damn it, you just woke me. It's one-on-ones too. Hey, first of all, let's talk about one-on-ones. What? That is a tackling drill for the defense. Quarterback that sits back there and goes like this. Yeah, but I mean, it's true.

It's, I mean, it's a, you should win every time as a receiver one-on-on-one. Every time. I mean, 90% of the time. Every time. If I'm here and the ball's here and you catch it, that's really just the release. It's for the release. It's for the top of the route. Yeah, that's it.

But if you win the release, that's how you had to beat Patrick Chung. You had to beat him at the release because all he was going to try to do is be physical with you and then competitive. And then you could get him with the stems. but if you got past him on the release which was a tough task because like Rob said he was explosive he was patient and he would fucking hit you you know he wasn't he was never scared

like it's it's always harder for a safety to cover a receiver okay it was it was hard for that's like if you saw a safety on you're like all right this is easy but with Chung you had to like really bring your game because he was gonna even if he knew he was going to lose he was going to do something to fucking

annoy the fuck out of you and it was always going to be something And the quarterback can go like this, shit. Yeah. And then go somewhere else. But you help me with that. You and Welker, because it was me and you our rookie year. They put you your receiver after practice. I didn't know a play receiver.

This guy's fucking jamming me on my shit. And I'm at my safety, I'm like, it was just me and him. And one-on-ones, after practice, just boom, boom, boom, boom, over and over. So I learned to cover receivers. Like, they put me on T. Ty Hilton one day. I'm like, I'll have help over the top. I'm like, I'm going to let this man have it at the line.

because I know I have a little help over time. Smart football player. Yeah. So it's like boom, boom, boom, boom. And then so now I learned quickness from you and Welker and you made me better. You guys both made me. What about my quickness? Yeah.

Yeah. But that's why I was able to help do the best I can against you on the line because I went against him for so long. Then I went against Walker for so long. So I learned the corner way of doing things. But then now you got this big ass dude. I still have the corner things, but I can't be a corner because you can just move. You just put your hand on me and move. So I got to be like, now I'm like in with hybrid.

Now I got to be like corner safety type person. So you guys really made my career, honestly, between YouTube and Bill and Scotio. Scottio. Yeah, I love Scottio. Special teams coordinator. This is National Football League. You will get baptized. Yep.

What was your favorite on-field moment in your career? On the field? Mm-hmm. Like winning a Super Bowl, jamming Julian, fighting Julian. Jamie, jamming me at the line, making Bill proud. Bro, we've had so many moments, but how am I going to answer that? Is there one that stands out? The parade.

The first thing that you remember. Yeah. I would say the first parade. The first parade. That's kind of a out of, that pick. And, like, we were, it was like, we were low. And then all of a sudden, it was what the hell just happened. And then the parade, people throwing nips at us.

Thank you. boom thank you beers thank you left hand right hand boom thank you it was just my first experience first time yeah like that was that was fun bro party to live too hard i've ever been involved in it was that parade oh my god it was the best it was like you party with a million people and not one person can get to you because you're on the uh duck boat just chilling up high oh man the nips though were great bro they were coming hot too bro you had a hot on a swivel oh yeah you're gonna get a drink real yeah you might if you did you didn't even give his shit either yeah just boom just take another

nip to the face yeah not myself oh those are good times those are great times now you went to organ you talked about playing against rob in the pack 10 i always remember when you first got to the pats you always had the most exclusive Nike shit because you went to organ i was so like jelly peanut butter and jelly because i went to kent state we were a new balance team and shit and you like can you explain the relationship of being an organ douged and having swaggy shit all the time and like what it's like

being a duck having 47 different uniforms for like only three games? It spoiled us. I'll say that. We call him Uncle Phil. Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince? No, yeah, yeah.

Both. We call Uncle Phil. I mean, we'd have the jerseys, bro. The captains before on Fridays, we'd pick these bottoms, these tops, these helmets. So it was kind of, it spoiled us, bro.

Honestly, bro. What was the coolest Nike thing you ever got? Bro, you know how much Nike stuff? I have a Nike tattoo on my... You know how many Nike things I've gotten, bro? Yeah. And, you know, but... How many shoes did you have in college?

Not a lot, bro. But, you know, I wear the same thing. I wear vans and the same shit every day. But I have a bunch of Nike shoes. You know me, bro. Just give me a grill and some meat, and I'm fine. All right. I didn't call it a day.

Yeah. Well, I had a lot of shoes that still send me shoes and a very big advantage for us. Okay. For Oregon. This will answer the question. we're looking for. So when we would go up to the equipment, you know, manager and be like, yo, I need a shirt. Like they were always so stint, oh, I just gave you one like three days ago. That's at the University of Arizona. We don't have Uncle Phil, you know, handing us out

clothing just like that. When you guys ask for something, you know, from the equipment, you know, staff at Oregon, was it even a question about giving it to you or were they just handing it right over? Depending who you are. I would say 85% of the players going there. Yes, you'll get it. Yep. I want this color, I want this color, I want this color, I want this. Okay, I walk on. Yeah. Favorite combo for the uniforms? All black.

All black. All black. It was fly, man. You guys look so good. All black every time. Everyone was jealous. Everyone looked to you guys, you know, as the uniform kings. Not the highlight?

That's a selling point, yeah. What about the highlighters? Those are kind of neon-y? The all-yellow ones? Yeah, those are nice, too. I like the all-black. Nighttime, all-black, foggy, and Oregon. People smoking weed because there's all.

hippies out there. Yeah. I remember, I could smell that shit on, we're in a huddle one time. Eugene. Eugene, bro. Can I say this? Can I hear this? Yeah, yeah.

We're in the huddle one time. You know Walter Thurman. Yeah. So we're in the huddle one time. And this is Oregon now, hippies everywhere. And you can just smell weed everywhere. We're in the huddle. And Walt goes, you smell that?

Yeah. I meant, we're on the field. If you smell that, I'm like, smells like that good. it smells like that good who was it you're in the huddle no it was a student section it was a student section your student section was lit when we were playing there

yeah yeah yeah yeah last one before we move into who's the mount rushmore of organ ducks in the history are we talking about going on and having success in the NFL as well or just all the success in college because I would say whatever you think the Mount Rushmore From what I've seen and played with, Oregon Ducks,

but what I've seen and played with, not what in all time, whatever, whatever you think. Halotinata. Alodina, obviously. Oh, my gosh. For a guy, he went to Oregon. Remember, I blocked him, and I was screaming, I was jumping up and down like, go, can I blocked?

Nah, no, no, it was in the USC championship game. And I blocked him. I blocked him. Well, what was he even doing lining up against me? The guy was 360 piling my pants. Yeah, keep going. Alodinata. There's so many good players.

There's so many good players. That's hard, man. That's a tough question. I'm going to say this. Marcus Marriota was almost unstoppable in Oregon. Just for Oregon. Heisman, right? Yeah, we're not talking about anything.

I'm talking about Oregon, right? Marcus Marriota had a really good game last year when he filled in for Pennick or for Washington. Jonathan Stewart. Oh, running back. Jonathan Stewart. What about Blunt? Blumpy up there?

Ligaritz up there, Kenyon Barner is up there. For Oregon, dude has all the records. He's in all of him already. I play with Barner in Tampa for a year. Yeah, he was there for like two years. Yeah, yeah. Last one. I'm trying to think.

I mean, Lageret's up there, Kenyons up there. Like, even like Lyman, like Max Unger is up there too. Like, he was good too. Yeah, a great career in the NFL as well. Yeah, so I'm saying. I can't pick the fourth. There's always really good linemen at a lot. Oregon.

Yeah, those are my top three, bro. I like you. I like it. Good, yeah. Okay. Jonathan Stewart, though, was... The dude was... Did you play with him?

Yeah. Was he a little bit before? 510, 2.35, ran 434, benched, squatted, and power clean more than all our linemen and jumped 40 inches. And he was just unbelievable. Wow. Yeah, it was unbelievable. Worked out, did the, they had like a power. powerlifting thing at Oregon, went there, one that.

It was like ridiculous, bro. Wow. You got to watch. You love to appreciate those guys because a lot of time, those guys don't transfer to the football field at all. They're just so powerful in the weight room and, you know, they can run so fast, but like they try to catch a football or try to run a route or run with the ball and you're like, what the heck?

Like that dude don't look like a football player. Like that's impressive to have those type of stats in the weight room and be that fast, quick and strong and then transfer it to the football field. and that's what makes a lethal, lethal football player, especially at the running back position. Correct, correct. Mm-hmm. All right, Rob, you get us in the Duncan.

All right, so now it's the Duncan donut dude. I can't stand to you guys. We're going to figure out if you're jelly, if you're cream cheese topping, if you're powdered donut, if you're chocolate glaze, Boston cream, a French curler. But this is the episode where we determine what type of donut you are. So what kind of donut is Patrick Chung? That's the question here. Jules, are we, are we, kick it off.

Let you guys answer first. Let you guys answer first. But if I'm just, take a look. This is the first time I'm looking at all these donuts and looking at you. Patrick. I'm trying to figure it out. Patrick is like almost. I can't believe.

I think he's like a sprinkled chocolate glazed. This is fun. This is fun. This is fun. This is fun with you right off. Yeah, come on. Well, he's Jamaican, so multicultural, you know. You got like the white cake for his mother's side or his dad.

You got the chocolate. for his mom who just so happens to be like a world famous singer you got a little sprinkle bedazzle because it's like it's like when you line up against him in in one-on-ones you just know there's going to be a flash of something and that's what the sprinkles represent i think you're like a chocolate glazed cake sprinkle cake cake cake this guy like this guy what do you think rob uh maybe the french coroller because like the french coroller is kind of like a sleepy donut and you're always sleeping in meetings. You're sleeping out at the practice field at first. But then all of a sudden, you have a taste of that French coroller and you're like, damn, that's a good donut that wakes you

right up. And then all of a sudden, you would get woken up in the meeting. You would know the answer. So that's kind of like how I'm translating that donut. What do you think you are, Chung? I don't know. I kind of like those answers, but I just like the, I think I'm just a regular glaze, bro. You're not regular glaze. I'm a sweet guy, real plain, but still, I taste good. And that is the Duncan dude's Duncan program by Duncan. All right, let's get into Patrick's guy. Let's get the AI's and not.

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Oh, yeah. Standing at six feet and weighing 209 pounds, this hard hitting safety was selected 61st overall in the second round of the 1996 NFL draft. From Jacksonville, Florida, he started three seasons. at Clemson University. Over a dominant 16-season NFL career, he was a first team all-pro selection four times and is a member of the 2018

Pro Football Hall of Fame class. Also, he is the only player in NFL history to record a sack, interception, fumble recovery, and touchdown reception in a single game. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get on, Brian Dawkins.

Brian Dawkins. What is the first, thing that you think of when you hear of the name, Brian Dawkins, and why did you pick Brian Dawkins, Patrick Chung? Football player. He can cover, he can tackle, he's stuff, he can play a linebacker, he can play safety, he can play in the slot, he can, but at the same time, he's very reserved and peaceful. You know, I don't like to talk too much. Yeah, I don't like to talk too much. Like you fight Chung, but he was like pick you up after he whipped your Yeah, and that's pretty much what I'm with him.

So pretty much the same size, almost the same pick, just kind of everything, you know, like he's just, he can blitz, he can tackle, he can hit linemen, put him down, put tight ends down. And, you know, just a very reserved person that can tap into his Wolverine. And, you know, that's why I kind of describe myself like him, just kind of a, just football player. I wasn't the fastest, the quickest or anything. It's just, I just loved football. I just played hard. You told me I can't do this shit.

I'm going to show you I can do this shit. And if I can't do it, at least I'm going to show you that I can. There's no giving up. So I didn't, there's no giving up with Brian Dawkins. You ever meet him? I met him one time. I was on a visit in Denver. And he was at the table.

He's eating his lunch. And I sat and I talked to him. And we talked for a little bit. And he was the same thing I'm saying. and very calm, very reserved, and very, like, educated, intellectual and talking to you how, you know, how football should be outside of the field. But then sometimes I watch football, I'm like, this guy is trying to kill people. Like, who is this person?

Like, you said, I'm sleeping, and I just wake up, and then I just want to go kill somebody. You got that hit. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so that's why I would describe myself like that, you know, just kind of, yeah, you had a good game like that's what boosted my career is that one game in um in miami yeah same thing that happened to him what you explain that oh when i had uh two block field goals a block field goal block punt pick six in one game and i don't know how many tackles against miami on the road on the road money that's what people were like who is this guy and that was my rookie year and i remember that was

your rookie and i remember as well coach balochuk call us all out and why he took us and why everyone now skipped on us you remember that no yeah it was the team meeting right before he was like i remember he grunk he went by i remember coming me yeah they didn't want you you had a visit to miami they passed on you we grabbed you i wanted you here and he went on about every single starter on our team and explained why you wanted him why he wanted you why but why you're here and why everyone else passed on you and like it made you feel good i remember that it was right before that game I just seen. He's done that multiple times.

Yeah, he's done a few. And that was when Miami was pretty good. That's when they had the Ronnie Brown year two years before. They were like Florida on. Chad Henny, Brandon Marshall. Yeah. Brandon Marshall. They were a good football team.

Who was that slot receiver? Best. Jervon Best. Devon Best. Yep. They had a good team that year. Did you watch a lot of Brian Dawkins' highlights growing up? I did, actually.

Yeah? Yeah, I did. That's the one person I did. And so my mom always always, is messing me because her last name's George, Sophia George. So when I was growing up, my favorite player was Eddie George on the Oilers. And she

always telling me, that's your uncle. Because you know, my family is just a total clown. I'm a total smart ass. So the whole time, like, this is my favorite player. Favorite player is like, that's not your uncle, bro. I'm like, what? I mean, watching this man forever.

Right? So my whole time, growing up, I was an oil fan. Yeah. I was an oiler fan, Eddie George fan, and then switch to Brian Dawkins, just the way he carries himself. And, like, you know, I just, I just liked him. I liked him a lot. He's one of the hardest hitters. I got lit up in 2009 when we went out and played Denver. Remember that?

He's one of, he hit me so hard. I saw like a star for two weeks. And, like, he, like, was so polite about it, too, when he hit me. Like, he lifted me, like, it's kind of like, I was saying with you, like, he asked if I was all right. He's like, you need to play. young fellow or something like that like he was just like it's like you said in between like these some of these guys like the brian dockins the troy paula malus who do do prayers every four every play

when they are in play they're not like prayer type guys they're like just straight want to kill you guys but also pray that you don't get hurt when they hit you hard yes yes those were the scariest guys to go over us and like it was kind of like a trick that they would use it was a tactic because they would absolutely level you and they'd be like hey oh my my gosh I'm so sorry because what usually when you get leveled like that you freaking get all amped up then be in the adrenaline starts flowing because you got to protect yourself and you're like I'm going to get that bastard back yep but he gets up and he comes you oh my gosh I'm so sorry and you walk away you're like oh my gosh you was so sorry I don't want to hit him back

you're so right it's so too like next time he fucking lights you up again oh oh I've done that so many times it's okay it was it was an accident again and I'm like this fine I wish you just talk shit to me like so I can go after I mean, get pissed off. But, man. When you're talking about crack blocks, there's sometimes receivers come in, I'll grab them. And, you know, receivers don't like get rolled up.

I don't want to see him what he hurt. So I'll grab him, I'll pull him towards him. Hey, hey, hey, watch your leg. Because the play's going to be over. Yeah. Oh, thanks you, man. And the next time, I'm like, ha ha. Come, man.

Eat this, bro. And now it's like, hey, we're just friends at last play. Like, no, we're not friends anymore. I just don't want you to get hurt. called a day. So you're right, bro. It's a total mind fuck. It really is. Yeah. Where does he get his nickname, the Weapon X? It's Wolverine, I think, right? Was it Wolverine? Yeah, he has Wolverine's, um, action figures in his locker room. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Is that, where's that rank among cool-ass nicknames? That's up there.

That's it. Weapon X. Weapon X. That might be the best one. That's had separate WeaponX locker. Wait, nameplate and all. When I hit the field, I'm not Brian Dawkins. I'm Weapon X, inscribed on his 2017 Super Bowl ring instead of his name. This guy, bro, his, the Weapon X locker was to the right of his locker. I remember, this is right here and he had his own locker. Bipolar. Two different personalities. Jekyll and Hyde right there?

That's crazy. That's lethal. That's lethal. That is lethal. That is. So we're talking about BD, obviously. There's plenty of other hard-hitting safeties in the game. Let's get your ranking of the top, you know, three or five safeties that you would say are the hardest hitters in the game.

Mount Rushmore of hardest hitting safety. We're not talking about the best players. We're just talking about a wide receiver lines up out wide and he's going to run a shitty route because he knows he doesn't want to run towards that safety and he doesn't want the ball because he's going to get absolutely smacked. I'm going to go with one right off the beginning because he went to the University of Arizona. I know him well. Chuck Cecil. He was an absolute menace out on. the field you know what that is you don't know chuck cecil oh my gosh one of the

hardest hitting safeties in the game they started making the rules change because of him really yeah he was he was he was back there he was um i don't know zach years that he played but i still i see he's coaches at the university of arizona now and i meet him i mean when i dapp him up i'm like bro like what the fuck dude like guy is a brick wall really yeah he's skinny brick wall i'm like i would never want to get hit by you and now i understood why those players all got knocked out and whenever he level him yeah he probably missed plenty of times because you're just running full speed oh yeah but yeah once he hits you that's game over so who's who's your mount rush yours that dude landry they used to play big dude from washington number 30

yeah he's going to knock me out of the jets yes so sorry for that julian but yeah he'll he'll let you have it dude his arms were bigger than my thighs yeah the dude's a savage bro he got popped a couple times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you know what you mean. He got a couple eight games as bad but hey, you freaking hear you made a wood. Yeah, he did. I'm trying to think I know he don't. So damn, I named one you don't like that Landry knocked you out. I don't dislike. He hits hard. He hits hard. That's fine. No, you respect it. I think there's a guy that you respect it. T.J. is a hard hitter too and that kind of hurts you a little bit. So I got to say that. Fuck me up. I know. I'm like, fuck me up too.

Are you serious? Yeah. Fuck me up. T.J. Ward. He'll miss or he was fearless. Yeah. The common denominator about all these safeties, though, is that they were so fearless. They didn't give all that.

That's what I'm saying. F about their body. You had to be like that. Sean Taylor. Sean Taylor. Remember when he laid out the punter? He is in the pro bowl? Oh my God.

The punter? Because it's during, I was from Buffalo. And obviously Buffalo sucked for so many years. The punter was. the most favorite player on the roster of the Buffalo Bills. He goes to freaking the Pro Bowl. Mormon was his name? Morton.

Morton. I forgot. Brian Mormon. It was on the sideline, right? Yeah, it was on the sideline. Brian Mormon, and he got absolutely leveled by Sean Taylor. It was the biggest hit I've ever seen in Pro Bowl history. He got up like a man, though.

He did. And he patted Sean Taylor on the back after it was like, bro. They'd be fighting. What the heck? Last guy. All right. Keep it going. Isn't it Devin McCourt?

Ready? I need drills and start laughing at that one. Deb didn't hit. That's... He covered. He covered. You know what, though?

You know what I'm going to say this? Devin would tackle him. You know what I say this? And people are going to be like, you're stupid. But if he caught you, it hurt. A hetty bow. He hetty bow? You're right, dude.

If people don't know that, a hetty bow, if he caught you, that's going to hurt a little bit. Yeah. We got to. We got to get some highlights of Ronnie Lott over there at Waters. I ain't, geez. But we'll take your list, Chau. We'll take your list. We'll take your list.

We'll take your list. What about Earl Thomas? Oh, Snikey. Earl Thomas could hit you. Camtancer could have. Oh, shit. You know what? Cam.

Cam Chancellor. I'm sorry about that. I forgot about that, man. He knocked me out too. Hey, yeah. He knocked me out. He didn't hit me. You just put a list out there that Julie and I got.

knocked out by. Ed Reed would be in there, too. That was your whole entire list. Hey, put Cam up there, bro. I'm sorry. I forgot that. So let's get back to Brian Dawkins. First and only's.

He's one of the first and only to be in the 2020-20 club with 20 sacks, 20 interceptions, 20-force fumbles. The only person alongside to him, my new teammate, Charles Woodson, shout-out Charlie. You're co-worker. My co-worker, Charles Woodson, baby. Only players with 35 interceptions, 35-force fumbles. This guy's elite.

He's got elite stats, Hall of Famer, became a Hall of Famer with Randy Moss in the 2018 Hall of Fame class. It was him, Randy, Erlacker, Ray Lewis, T.O. First Clemson player inducted into the Hall of Fame. Look at that Hall of Fame class. Randy Moss. Yes. Erlacker. T.O.

Ray Lewis, T.O. and Brian Dawkins. That is a fucking class. That's crazy. That is a class. That's a Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame class right there. Big time. It really is. All five of those names are headliners.

Headliners. And then the Eagles, who you played for, retired his number 20 jersey in 2012. Did he have, like, a presence in the Eagles locker room when you were there? No, he was gone. Gone. It was he gone. But was he talked about? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. He is everywhere. Yeah, he is the Eagles, pretty much. Yeah. Him and Donovan McNabb and Brian Dawkins. They were the Eagles. He still flies out and does the shit like the pregame. Yeah. All right. Let's determine what kind of dude Brian Dawkins is. There's five categories. There's a stud.

Someone's who had the pedigree. He's been the guy his whole life. You look at him. You're like, that's the fucking stud. A freak, someone who is not human. Randy Moss, for example. You look at him. He's too tall, too fast, and he could get out of breaks and he jumps too high. Dog is someone who's relentless, motivated, physically and mentally tough, probably win a different road, got to the area got to the top a whiz is someone who is innovative he's got an intellect revolutionary clutch did something crazy and then the dudes dude he's the guy who's the glue guy in the locker room always has the positive attitude always calm cool and collected i can only pick one he's gonna have multiple things but we have to stamp them as one you can talk about a you know how how he represents

a couple of the categories but what mainly represents brian dockins My first initial was dog. What round was he drafted? Second. He's relentless, very motivated because he's, you know, he's deep into like Christian and just very motivated to motivate himself and, you know, self-growth and physical and mentally tough, like dog. But then I look at like always, always positive.

Yeah. The locker guy is calm, cool, and colloquy. elected I mean this is a football like it's this is guy it could be all of them honestly he fits all five categories and that's why he's all and that's why he's a hall of fameer yeah the hall of fame guy fits all five categories basically but and he's also like a stud because he always was the standard like Brian Dawkins from day one was always a professional yeah he was a guy you know what I mean that's a tough question man I mean he has an alter ego and if you have an alter ego you're kind of not like like like dude

dudes do like are you yeah he's because like you know yeah two different people like someone walks up to you like yeah like talk to my alter you i think he's either a stud or dog person that's what about a freak though you just took the fucking words out of my mouth i'm like just mixed stud and dog together that's what i was thinking freak though the guy looks freaky strong as he's freaky strong too but like he's not he was five what is he six foot uh you know he's not one of these so he was like like cam chancellor was like a freak Because he was like 6.4. Yeah.

Yeah. He looked like out of this world. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Okay. What are you leaning on? Chung?

I'm going to lean on dog, but stud and dogger would be like 1A1B. That's what I would say. So he's smart. He's athletic. He's well-rounded. But he's also motivating. He's physically and mentally, mentally tough. Like not everyone can love a dog on the team.

Like people, some guys like see a dog and they're like, man, fuck him. But that dude is, you know, like, Like, did anyone ever say that to, I think his own team, like he was probably, I think he's the stud. You look at Brian Dawkins, and that's like the pedigree of, this is how you want your fucking safety to be. Yes. He's vocal when he has to be.

He's a pro. He's always done the right thing. You know what I mean? He can do whatever you ask him to do on the defensive side of the ball. Yep. Yep. And people watch and pay attention to it. He can blitz.

He can force a fumble. He can have an interception when the ball is thrown to him. He can cover. and zone he can cover in man i mean yeah you got to be an absolute you know stud i think what julian is saying is the younger people would rather a stud so they look at him like i'm going to do exactly what this man is doing a dog is like you can have the dog in you but still be an idiot yeah a stud is like i want to be like him and so yeah so i get what you're saying and stubs get replicated and even you chung you wanted to replicate your game exactly

exactly pass it down to other people yeah so yeah all right one two three stud with dog tendencies thank you well done well let's get into the chillest dude of the week presented by cores light our favorite beer get cores light delivered straight to your door visit coreslight.com slash dudes and remember celebrate responsibly let's crack a beer let's have a couple of sips enjoy it Spent a while, man. Pleasure that, you know, you're hanging out with us here at the Nut House factory. And the chillest dude of the week is Pichung, baby. Pete Chung.

Now, we're going to determine what kind of dude you are through a series of questions that we have patented. We literally had them patent. No one else is allowed to ask you these questions. In this specific order, actually. Yes. Really? Yeah, so here, Robbie. No, this is here.

No, I'm kidding. They're quick hitters. This is work is fun. I'm just talking shit. And with your personality, you're going to love these questions as well. This doesn't really have anything to do with football. Just silly, random silly questions about life, basically.

Yeah, that's all good, bro. Yeah. And I feel like you fit this mold perfectly. You're always down for a good time. And that's why we were so great, you know, at our battles. We're always down. You would be like, I don't want to go to practice right now. I'm like, nope.

No, I don't. Quick hitters, quick hitters. Quick, are we going fast? Oh, shit. Uh, Jules, would you like to go first? Yeah, I'll start it off. Since you always fought, John. I can't stand, you guys.

Easy guy. I think I already know this one. A couple fights. I think I know this one, but, um, did you wear flip flops in the shower? Yes. Yeah, really? See, that's gross, bro. Yeah, that's surprising.

You know how many people wash? I agree. In dirt? That's gross. Oh, no, no, it's definitely gross if you don't wear flip flops. Yeah, but you don't wear flip flops. I started to. After I got some, what I was called on bottom.

Athlete's foot? No, no. Staff? Fungus? No, oh, yeah, yeah, basically. Fungus, which turned into a, what is it? It's like a little ball, bottom of your foot. That's disgusting, but let's just go on an accident.

Oh, a wart. Yeah. Those are the worst. They hurt, too. Yep. Rob. Jesus Christ. Fliplops in the showers.

Cut that out. Please cut that out of the show. Yeah, cut that one out. He wears flip flops. I wear flip flops. All right. I don't care. You don't have to cut it on.

All right. What sports did you play in high school? Track football. Track football. Dang. All right. Who's the most famous person in your phone that's not Tom Brady? He never had Tom Brady's phone number anyways.

Your mom? My mom. She's famous. I thought you said your mom to Julian. I was like, oh, you're kidding. I'm going to your mom. My mom. My friends are just in Jamaica and they're like I know, like singing her songs and everything.

What song? What's her favorite? What's her best song? Girlie, Girlie, Girlie. Girlie. But she had a bunch of other ones, though, yeah. Gurley. She's more famous in Jamaica than I am.

Jeez. Yeah. So Jamaica Rust a man, mom. Shout out to Mama Chong. Oh, yeah. Mama Chong. Oh, yeah. Can you sing?

No. Really? I can write music and rap. Oh, really? I can kind of sing. Oh, you wrapped. I remember you came out with a song. I had a lot of songs.

You did. No, but you came out with a song at one point. Like, we all listened to it in the library. One song. Yeah, one song there was like years ago. Yeah. I still write music. Eight years ago.

Oh, that's cool. That's cool. Mm-hmm. All right. What star recruit were you coming out of high school? Two. Two-star? Mm-hmm.

In Oregon, offered you? Mm-hmm. They only usually take five stars and four stars. You know how that happened? How? So Coach Neal was coming to see another player, and they saw me running on kickoff and just move this guy and hit this person. And Coach Neal said, who is that?

And that's how I got a scholarship. That's what's up, man. That's what's up. Chungie, what is your coffee? order. I don't drink coffee. No coffee. But if I had to choose, Starbucks, caramel frappuccino. Sweet stuff. Extra caramel on the bottom. Extra foo foo. Extra foo. So it doesn't even taste like coffee. It doesn't. It tastes like a milkshake. That's how I actually got turned on the coffee. I'm like, dude, coffee's nasty. Like, no, no. Someone brought me to Dunkin' Donuts.

It was a iced coffee with caramel swirl, two squirts or whatever, and milk. And I took it. I was like, dude, this is a milkshake. This is a freaking milkshake. And then ever since, I got hooked on coffee because of that. It is a milkshake. What was your college GPA? Oh, to begin with or the end?

Both. To begin with, I was 16. I'm like, they don't check class. You were 16 in college? Yeah, I went to college. I was 16. I was born in Jamaica. So in Jamaica, you start school earlier than America.

So when I came over to the States, I just came in the grade that I was already in. So I graduated. 16 years old, and I went to college at 16. And then Oregon at 7? How old are you right now? 38. I just turned 38 on the 19th. Oh, man. So they didn't check class. I'm like, you're not checking class? I'm a little kid. I'm like, I'm checking my class. So I went down to like 2.1, almost academic probation, and then right back to like 3.2. After they told me like, you're about to get kicked out of school. I'm like, okay, let me throw it out. Three point two. A couple cool

facts right there you didn't know i don't know that man so when i was going for yeah i was supposed to gray shirt yeah oh you did you i was supposed to gray shirt and coach neil calm me that we need you now so i didn't gray shirt i just redshirted what what was your age when you first your first snap on the football field at oregon how old were you i was turning 17 so like right before 18 years old oh my dude holy shit i didn't know that about you man that's a cool young fact man you didn't know that holy holy 16 college what's the square root of 144 you're fucking me up right now. It's 12, ain't it? Yeah, yeah. 12. You just caught me like, I was just sitting here thinking like, are you serious right now with this question? Yeah. This is in the series.

What's 11 times 14? 144. 154, stupid. Yeah, yeah, get out of here. Not a numbers guy. I'm a number's guy. I'm a number's guy. Ask me it. 11 times 16. Oh, that one's tough. 144. 176. Oh, God. Did you just say it too? All right. This guy knows is multiplication. I didn't even try. I didn't even try it and actually use my brain cells or I would have got it. Yeah, yeah. I just didn't want it too.

Okay, 113 times 12. Oh, uh, 133. 132. Oh, dang, so close. Are you guys, can you put this on? Can you put this on? It's 133? You don't let me finish.

132. 11 times 12. 133 minus 1. All right. You didn't let me get that minus one. The guy knows math. The guy knows math. Back to the question.

See, they try to make me stupid with the square way 144. Yeah. Get them back. This guy is genius. That's why he was in college at 16 years old. Like what that is? No, that wasn't why. It's just because I was just born or just in Jamaica.

That's it. No, no, you're genius. That's what is. How many surgeries have you had? Ooh. One, two, three, four, five. All upper body, it seems like. Guys, brockoning to three, four, five.

Still, still defined. Maybe seven. If you call MCL, like the manipulation, you call that AIDS. No, I'm not a surgery. Nah, like probably six or seven. Yeah. Six or seven. Okay.

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it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, Chungie, what's the last book you read? Nothing. Cookbook. Cookbook. Okay, that's a book. That's a book. I love cookbooks. When I read my books and it's all pictures, that's still a book. Yeah. it was the last book it was julian's book it was the kid's book it was awesome what's the last book he read where the red friend grows

yeah sir green light eighth grade the playbook the playbook actually I didn't read that I just I just picked it up you just skimmed you just skimed

yeah walkthroughs is where I picked up he didn't read the playbook he just did it he's so right a walkthroughs are key yeah walkthroughs are key they're key key to learning like if you know you're

messing up in the meetings, you're like, okay, I'll just, I'll just pay attention in the walkthrough. And then you're moving around as well, so it's a lot easier. Yeah, to pick it up. People learn there always. Chuck, what's your game day outfit? It depends. Ooh, depends on. It was cold.

I might do a little picoat. A little pico guy. Peacote thing. You wash the picoat? I don't wear it enough to wash it. Doesn't wear enough to wash, but has never washed. Hey, so when you wear a pair of jeans, do you wash it, do you wash it right after? Depends on what kind of gene

And it depends how dirty you get the jeans Exactly But if you're just wearing it to a dinner And you come home Do you wash it? No, I ain't washing those jeans Exactly So be coat where I wear it

Two times a year in the winter Why would I wash it? Hell no, I ain't washing that TV These are just questions we're asking you Yeah, please, please stop asking those questions I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, ask these questions Okay, yes, yes Ice bath or hot tub

Hot tub All right Um, have you ever been fined? Correct. How much and how many times? Yeah, and for what? Um, I would say 15, 20 grand. I grabbed Reggie Bush by the back of his helmet.

I hit Chad on Troenko on the head. Oh. I face mass somebody. Don't remember who that was. No nameer. I don't remember who that was. And maybe a couple other things. But so we're talking like maybe 300 grand worth fines?

No. 20 grand. 20 altogether? All of them? Because if you're a repeat offensive. I believe it doubles. It's only a couple. They're pretty bad, but it's only a couple.

So 50, 50 grand? 15, 20. Maybe. You can look it up, maybe 20. Got fined a lot, but not really hard stuff. Like little baby tedious finds? Oh, like socks and shit like that? I don't know.

You know, it's not like one of those ones where you stick someone so hard. They have to give you a hundred grand. Oh, that's tough. His are like little seven grand. Remember walking into your locker room? in your locker and you see like the FedEx right on your chair and you're like, damn. That's how you find out if you get fined. It's either a check or I got to pay some money.

You walk into the locker room and what? There's just something taped on. There's just a FedEx right there on your chair and you look at it. From the league office. From the league office and you're like, ah, either this is a Madden check because we're all on Madden. You're just hoping it's on Padden. Or maybe like something else. You know what I'm saying? Like something else. Or I just got fine for me hitting that guy. based on Sunday.

Yeah. That's it. And then you open up, you're like, ah, motherfucker. I just got fine. And then you look, tune to you, right? You're like, lunch on you now. Taxi. What was it go to? It goes to Goodell Foundation or whatever it is.

Don't know. Probably Goodell's pocket. Yeah, that's what I think. We had him on our show. Love Rod. He was the first guest we had on. He's actually a cool dude. I like him, bro.

I should be saying that, but yeah. We did love having them on. Yeah. great dude to shoot this shit with. He seems real cool. But he also understands that he has to be the villain. You know, for everyone else. So, like, he plays it.

You got to be the villain. Back to the questions. Oh, shit. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry, sorry. All right. What was your fastest 40 time? 439.

439? And I used to run by and get open. So that means I run a 432. Oh, my God. Yeah, baby. I run a 432, everyone. Oh, my God. In Arizona, um.

Was it Arizona exos? No, what was it before? API. API, yeah. What did you run at the Combine? Was that the 439? No, 447. That's sure.

That costs me money. Astros. Yeah, it's an asteris. Hand time. Hand time. So, fight breaks out at practice. What do you do? Depends.

On what? Yeah. How many punches are thrown? If I'm around. If it's not crazy. I'm like, let's just break it up, guys. If it's crazy and I see something happening, like if someone else like punch you guys in the face,

I'd like, you can't do that to my friends, bro. Like, back the fuck up real quick. But a fight for me, I'm going. Going. Oh, speaking of this, it's like of my fights. So my rookie year, I don't know if you remember this. It was me and Kevin Falk.

K. Falk. So I came in on a blitz. You know, you came on a blitz and like you kind of stopped. Yeah. So I stopped, but I must have headbutton a little bit. So I turn around. I'm a rookie year. He throws the ball in the back.

back in my head. I think I remember this. Yep. And I backed up. I'm like, no. So I threw a ball back. And I'm walking again. And then he threw it back.

And he threw it back again. And this is young crazy pat. I just lost my mind. Boom. So I ran at him and he tried to toss me and I grabbed him. I won't say anything, but I won the battle that day. And Bill took me out of practice. Put me on the sideline.

I was so mad. I had tears in my eyes. He goes, he's done. But you know Bill. I look at Bill. and Bill's like this. Doing this fucking whistle thing and just smirking like,

maybe we got this guy. He's a tough. He doesn't take shit. Then I had to apologize to them. Fought a very big vet at a rookie age. Bro, I had to apologize, Jules. That's palsy. That's not palsy.

Couple more. That's dogworthy. Yeah. It is. They're stuck. I've been stuck that you're just super smart in a whiz because you're in college at 16 years old.

It's because I was. was born i know but like i'm still just still like your ti hat tilt right now thank you man i'm trying to become a rapper yo i'm robbie g i'm the one and only if you don't know me i'm sorry all right there's more it's yeah it's it was like chung's rap video he came out with 10 years ago and show us all in the locker room it was just as good as that all right we got a couple more we got a couple more for you oh my god how much how many how many more questions we got for you how many more two more all right i got one and then julian will top it off all right can you dunk barely barely i'm honest person barely i can but it's not like a rob dunk

i can dunk i can dunk i know you can dunk it's like i can barely get there and put it in the hole and just huh just put it in the rim and huh oh yeah all right all right yeah i like the description there Yeah, I had to tone it back a little bit, you know. You're a little out of hand today. Yeah, that's fine. You might be our most inappropriate guess, but my favorite. I'll tell you. Last question.

Gets me going. How do you eat your steak? Medium rare or medium rare plus. I need a little bit of, I'm okay with a little bit of blood leaking out, which is really not blood. And pink. Do you use utensils, fork and knife? Forking knife. Or just hands?

Forking knife. What if it's like a... Yeah, a bone-in rib on. And there's some meat on the bone. Well, I'll eat the meat with fork and knife. And then at the end, I'll grab that thing and eat it like a good. No, we're talking. Yeah, yeah, big old.

I was worried for a little bit. Are you serious? No shot. All right, Chung, give us a couple seconds so we can determine what kind of dude you are. We're going to meet real quick. Oh, no. We miss meeting room so much. Yeah, real quick.

We're going to have our own little meeting room right now just to replicate, you know, us back in the day. Yeah, he went to us. school at 13 12 12 years old wait but he ran a 4-3-9 but it was really a 4-4-8 yeah correct

that's correct he's just icing it up hey hey I'm here I can be more science no no no yeah he made up his yeah kind of yeah all right on three one two

three dog you know perfect why do you think he's a dog Rob. Well, this was a tough one. Yeah, this was a tough one because you're a whiz as well, you know, you're very, you know, innovative and you have a lot of intellectual thoughts. You got to be smart to be a rapper to be able to rhyme words and all that good stuff. But as a dog, you were relentless, man. You really were. You made me a better player out there on the football field. And it wasn't like, it was like, oh my gosh, as Patrick Chung is the most freakish abilities. And he looks like, absolute monster it was like oh i'm going to get open on this guy he's not really ready and then all

of a sudden you just wake up and that's like a dog he can be sleeping on the floor boom wakes up and he's running at the guy that rings the doorbell and just that he's biting his face off and having zoomies and that was you out on the football field uh you were a two star athlete you know we just learned that through the questionnaire uh and a dog is a guy is a animal that is kind of you know not given every opportunity, not handed them. And as a two-star, you're not handed every opportunity. You worked your way up there. So we determined that you're a dog.

What else you got on that? I think, you know, you've overcome a lot of adversities in your life. You've always been a bring your, as much as it anyone wants to say with, you know, you sleep in meetings and stuff. When it was practice time, it was like bring your lunch pill, bring your fucking hard hat. Chung's going to be here. there's going to be some fireworks and it's just going to be you know one of those types of days you always had physical toughness mental toughness and i saw the mental toughness when you know we would

go we would go out have some fun and then the first day back chung's like the rabbit when we'd all condition like he always had crazy lungs he always worked his dick off even if it looked like he was tired or mopey or he never he looked he looked away but he played a certain way and that's like a dog bro that's fair i'll take that and most importantly why you're a dog do dogs ever back down when they see another dog that's bigger no never and you never back down for me ever ever ever watching your career and i'm like three times the size of you yes especially now and that was the chillest dude of the week thanks to our favorite beer coors light get coors light delivered straight to your door visit coorslight.com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly chung thanks for coming on and sharing with us

the dude that you always looked up to the dude that you wanted to go over uh anything to plug free jacks free jacks man what is free jac team our rugby team oh what is our rugby team explain this to the viewer, or the listener. Yeah. Let's hear what you got doing. Of course we do. So that was my locker mate for years and he's always watched this sport on his phone next to me.

I'm like, what are you watching, bro? What are you watching? He was rugby. They're watching the all blacks and the sevens. So I'm like, well, let me watch. So I started watching and started watching it becomes very interesting. It's like it's football without the softies. Without the forward pass.

Without forward pass and soft-ass people that just close their eyes. It's a man sport. It's a man sport. It's a man's sport. So Julian wouldn't be able to play. Oh, yeah. He'll be able to play. You'd be able to play.

Oh, 100%. Yeah. I was just trying to throw a shot out. No, me and Nick. You're talking about right now. The guy just had nuts shirt. I would have been. Lacu, look, right now.

Yeah, it's a good sport. And Nate call me one day. He goes, hey, you want to, like, partly own a rugby team? I'm like, shit, fuck it. Let's do it. Fuck you. So, yeah. So we just own this team.

We won three championships. Where do you guys play? We're in Quincy. Veterans Memorial Stadium. Okay. And then now the new, we had the championship in Pawtucket, the new soccer stadium. I forget the name of it. And we won three championships a row.

So really, I got six rings now. Six ring? All right. If you want to say that. Captain Jack? I mean, when's the season? When can people come to the games? Oh, I think they start March, April. So it's a spring sport.

Everyone go out, look up free jacks. New England free jacks. New England free jacks. Three time champions. Back to back, to back, to back, history. Back to back, to back. Three Pete. Three Pete.

With co-owner, Nate Ebner, another teammate of ours. Everyone goes support Free Jacks. Thanks, Pat, for coming on. We have a good time. And that's been another episode of dudes on dudes. Thanks again to Duncan. And thank you again to Patrick Chung. Subscribe on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Amazon Music,

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