Games with Names - “The Super Blood Wolf Moon Game” with Rob Riggle | 2019 AFC Championship Patriots vs. Chiefs

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

We’ve got comedian, actor, and die hard Chiefs fan Rob Riggle in studio! We’re diving into the 2019 AFC Championship game aka “The Super Blood Wolf Moon Game” between the New England Patriots and the Kansas City Chiefs. Rob joins us on the couch (4:54). We go back in time to January 2019 (27:45). We run through these rosters (42:18). Then we dissect this OT thriller (51:30). We wrap this thing up by giving a very controversial score (1:18:27). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In all of my favorite movies. In the face! Rob Riggle in studio. We are covering the 2019 AFC Championship between the Patriots and the Chiefs. I've been a Chiefs fan my whole life. Long-suffering Chiefs fan. This is the first time we had hosted an AFC game ever.

Something was in the air. You know this thing's coming down to the end. The Chiefs andering Chiefs fan. This was the first time we had hosted an AFC game ever. Something was in the air. You know this thing's coming down to the end. The Chiefs in the AFC Championship. We got a chance to go to the Super Bowl. I was so excited. But Bear Grylls called and said, Hey, will you come do Running Wild with me in Iceland? And it was during the AFC Championship.

Cut to, I'm in Iceland on a glacier in the middle of the night, laying there freezing my ass off, but I have my phone. I keep screaming, mother. What happened here? The bear's like, everything all right, mate? Everything okay? It's a little windy up here. I literally just watched the game, I want to run through the fucking wall right now. It was the most epic two minutes of an AFC championship. And I'm a Chiefs fan, and that was one of the most special things I ever saw. Touchdown, Patriots! You have a lot of friends. They're going to be like, he touched the punt, he touched the f***ing punt.

I did not touch the ball. Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names presented by WinBet. On today's episode, we are talking the 2019 AFC Championship game between the Patriots versus the Chiefs with Rob Riggle. Rob, big fan. Big Chiefs guy. I mean, he was fun.

Fun guy. I wasn't here for the interview, but you killed it. Looks like a new man. He really does. Something distinguished. Those Hollywood people, they're all handsome. Even though he's not a handsome guy in the world of Hollywood. He's not known, but they all look good.

He's pretty high up on the Games with Names handsome power ranking scale. Yeah. We also get into talking about the Super Blood Moon, Blood Wolf Moon. Super Blood Wolf Moon game. That was big. That's how you knew something crazy was going to happen that night. Something crazy. Rob's underlying love for the Kansas City Chiefs and everyone in Hollywood.

Everyone in Hollywood loves the Chiefs. Undying love, man. They love them. They got like a wriggle. They got ham. We talk it all. We talk about that Chiefs gang of celebrities. It's a whole little posse.

A whole posse. And getting stranded on an iceberg. He was out there with bear grills and a tent watching this thing on the game cast and following along. It was wild. I don't know why, but I just get instant thought of ice fishing gone wrong, like gone wrong.

You know, like those little houses that have fires on water. Terrifying. I don't get it. People in Minnesota love it. I don't get it. Dude, I got to say, I rewatched a little bit of this last night. The final, the OT drive, punching OT Chiefs Patriots on YouTube.

Chills, bro. I still can't believe Josh pulled a flea flicker on that OT drive. Hey, man. Yeah. Empty the clip. You got nothing left for next week at that game. That's what I always said. If it's on the play sheet, we're calling it.

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Actor, comedian, producer, writer. You've seen him in all the classics. One of my favorite stepbrothers, the Catalina fucking wine mixer. The Hangover, 21 and 22 Jump Street. The Daily Show. He's got a list of things. He's got like all these little niche parts in all of my favorite movies host of holy moly on abc produced by seth curry seth yeah yeah this guy's just balling

everywhere welcome to games for names rob thanks i'm so glad to be here dude so nice to meet you too nice to meet you i've enjoyed you for a long time i i well i say that i've enjoyed your skill set i don't you know obviously I'm a Chiefs fan, so there was a little friction there. But other than that, I really enjoy watching you. You know, I wore my, this is the only Chief thing I'll ever wear. And I appreciate you wearing that. That's fantastic.

It's because I'm a huge Joe Montana fan. We had dogs, Dwight Montana. When Joe left the Niners, my dad literally stopped being a Niners fan. We were a Chiefs fan for one year. That's amazing. I love that. Remember that Monday night football game where he led them back against the Niners? Well, it was against the Broncos, wasn't it?

It was the Broncos. And they did beat the 49ers, too. But they did a 49ers and didn't he have a comeback drive win against the Niners? Probably. He always has comeback drives. But we could never beat Elway and the Broncos. a comeback drive win against the Niners? Probably. He always has comeback drives. Comeback hit.

But we could never beat Elway and the Broncos. They just had our number for a decade plus. And finally, Joe had more magic than Elway that night. Yeah. I mean... Because Elway brought him, you know, he brought him down the field and scored. And it was one of those, they did it again. But, ah, ah, ah.

Nah. Joe Montana's got a little magic there. And all the Kansas City fans were like, we just accepted it as, well, that's how it goes. And that's what happens. And then Joe was like, wait a second, guys. You've got to see what I got. And he brought it out there.

Like, who was the John Candy in the stands at that time? Did he have anyone to say, like, hey, there's John Candy, guys. Like, settle the huddle down. Right, right, right. No, probably not. Probably not. Well, we got Kyler in the guys that settle the huddle down. Right, right, right. No, probably not. Probably not. Well, we got Kyler in the studio. Jack's over at Mission Control.

He's another stat guy. He's not in right now. And we are covering the 2019 AFC Championship between the Patriots and the Chiefs. Why'd you pick this game, Rob? I picked this game because, for several reasons. One, I knew I'd be talking to you, so I thought it would be appropriate. Two, this, so the last AFC championship game

I saw was the Chiefs. Now, you gotta remember, I went to my first Chiefs game in 1975, okay? So I've been a Chiefs fan my whole life. Long-suffering, long-suffering Chiefs fan. Never seen a Super Bowl in my lifetime. And 93, Joe Montana was the last time we made it to the AFC Championship game, and we didn't do very well.

The Buffalo Bills had our number, and it was over. But now we have this breath of new you know this this breath of fresh air come in call patrick mahomes things are turning around we've got reed you know just all of a sudden tyreek hill you know it felt like we're knock knock knocking on heaven's door here and i was so excited but bear Bear Grylls called and said, hey, will you come do Running Wild with me in Iceland? And I said, yes, because it was a chance to do Running Wild with Bear Grylls.

Bear Grylls, who wouldn't? So I said, yes. And he goes, okay, great. And then I looked at the schedule and it was during the AFC Championship game. So cut to I'm in Iceland on a glacier in the middle of the night on the far side. Reykjavik is down here and we were way out in the middle of nowhere. And we had these little shelter halves and I'm laying there freezing my ass off, but I have my phone.

We have Wi-Fi. No Wi-Fi. Just somehow there was a signal that I could connect to because there was a highway that goes all the way around iceland or whatever and i guess they have you had signals so i got a very weak like one two bar signal and i was able to you couldn't get a i couldn't watch it okay but i could get updates right there was on the you know how that little football field and it just shows the lines going back yeah yeah whatever so i'm i'm sitting there in my tent the game starts it's like 1 a.m right now i had just done this thing where you know we we rappelled out a helicopter as we were climbing up the ice glacier

we were doing all this stuff all damn exhausted i got to get a big sleep because tomorrow we're hitting it again and we're we're going seven miles across this glacier. But it's the Chiefs and the AFC Championship. We got a chance to go to the Super Bowl in my lifetime. So I'm like, this is – so I'm watching. I'm getting feeds every five minutes, and it's slow, and I can't figure out. What the fuck does that mean? What's going on here?

What happened here? What does that mean? Oh, a field goal. A field field is not going to win a game. You know, I'm getting all mad and you know, all this stuff. And I'm, I'm in my little shelter half on this glacier and I keep screaming, mother fucker, you know, I'm, I'm cursing. Bears like everything. All right, mate, everything.

Okay. You know, I'm like, Oh yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry. Uh, you know, but I kept him up all night. The game finally ends at like four in the morning, you know, uh, ice Iceland time. Yeah. And we lost, but I didn't understand what happened.

You know, I was like, what happened? We were, things were going well. I thought we had to, you know, we went to overtime and,

and I was, I just couldn't get any information and it made me insane. All I saw was the final score. And it was, you know, obviously I was heartbroken by that. So I thought, maybe I could get some perspective on that game since I didn't see it.

And even when I got back, I didn't get back until midweek of the next week. So when I did get back, all the clips were gone. All the highlights were gone. They were focused on other things. They were moving on to the Super Bowl. And I felt like that game slipped by me and i i saw a couple clips or like a whatever somebody's offside at the last you know penalties and weird things like that that always have oh there's there was a whole shit ton of those yes so have you seen it since no

so i've never watched the game i literally just watched the game i want to run through the fucking wall right now i'm not joking so it was the most epic two minutes of an afc championship yes in the history that's actually me where is that's me and my shelter half oh my god watching the game on the glacier that the it's a little windy up here on the glacier tonight and it's uh blowing up kind of storm and for you for you people that don't know rob was a marine so the mental toughness he's showing right now on a glacier in a chief's beanie taking a video of himself after or during yeah the afc in 2018 is, that's insane. Yeah.

That's insane. So I was actually hoping to learn more about this game. Because I feel like, you know, I got the highlights. I heard from my friends. And it was all so depressing. We kind of blocked it out. But I'd love to hear more about it. I'd love to hear more about the game.

You have a lot of friends. So you could tell them the first question. I did not touch the ball. Okay. See, I got to know more about this. That's all you got to hear more about it. I'd love to hear more about the game. You have a lot of friends, so you could tell them the first question. I did not touch the ball. Okay. See, I got to know more about this. That's all you got to know. All right. They're going to be like, he touched the punt.

He touched the fucking punt. We threw a pick the next play. Okay. Okay, so just let them know you guys got the ball back. All in line. That one's there. All right, good. Good.

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podcasts. Tell us of you. you went to a game in 1975. How did you become part of the Chiefs kingdom, as they call it? I grew up in Kansas City, so I never really had a choice. That's just the way it is. They love their football there, too. That's a very historical. It is.

It's one of the AFC originals. Yeah, 60. And they do love their their football in kansas city and and i was very i even though i didn't have a choice i was fine with it you know i liked the i like the vibe at arrowhead i like the vibe the the tailgating is the best you'll find in the nfl um if the game's at three o'clock in the afternoon people are arriving at 8 a.m to set up their grills and mountain time right there you see that three o'clock it's probably supposed to be a 405

that's mountain time that's that's just me thinking yeah yeah you got to know these things wherever you are in the country i'm doing tv now and i got to know these like it's so weird that i'm out here now and the games start at 10 and i forgot that they start at 10 yeah when i was a kid because i was on the East Coast for so long. I actually love, because when I lived in New York City, a Monday night game would end around 12, sometimes 12.30, depending. And I would always have work, or I'd be getting up early because of the Marines or whatever, and I'd be like, oh, God, just end it.

Especially if it was a good game, I'd be like, just let this thing be over. Now the games are over at like 9 o'clock. We're not here. I still got time to do other stuff. There's only one thing. There's only one bad thing about it on a Sunday. For the day games, sometimes I was living in New York

my first year out. I loved going up to, what is it, Barney's Greengrass? Yeah. On the Upper West Side, get a little brunch before you get all nuzzled up on the couch and watch 30 hours of football that's the one thing but on the vice versa of that you know football on sunday is done at 8 30 you get to go home you get to go out to have a dinner i mean it is pretty good on both sides yeah and if you get up if you if you play in your morning right

you know right right when you roll out of the sack, especially if you're hurting from the Saturday night before, you roll out and it's like, let's just stumble down and get some food and you catch the first part of the first game at the restaurant or the bar

and then boom, you're back on your couch. You're back. Well, Rob, did you watch the game? They were played in Germany last week. You were up at 6 a.m. watching that game?

I was. I was actually in D.C. this past weekend hosting the American Valor Awards or whatever. And up at 6 a.m. watching that game? I was. I was actually in D.C. this past weekend hosting the American Valor Awards or whatever. And so Sunday I got up. But it was nice because I was on the East Coast. It was only 9 o'clock I had to get up. Duck soup, man.

It was a walk in the park. But I definitely got up and watched that game. I know I don't miss if I can help. That was a good matchup, too. It was. It was. And I'll take the W any way we get them. Yeah.

But, you know, obviously you see things like, hmm, I think we got away with one there. Nah, you guys, I mean, Miami doesn't play tough teams very well right now. I mean, if you look at their wins, it's against everyone who's under 500, and their losses is anyone who's above 500. That's interesting. that's interesting it's

there's some crazy stats going on right now and i'm in that world you know and this is pasteurization season almost cream season where the cream rises to the top and you go on those super bowl runs rob and right now when you can't run the ball and you get stuffed by physicality when the weather changes it's tough for a team. I'm proud of the Chiefs. For the last five years, we've been such an offensive team. Focus on offense, focus on offense, focus. I like our defense.

What? You guys have the best defense in the league right now? Second? I didn't know that. I actually didn't know that. But I love our defense. Your defense is young, fast. They're playing their balls off. And that's what happens when you have to pay a quarterback.

You have to learn how to win in different ways. And the Chiefs have displayed that since the departure of Tyreek Hill, being able to re-identify themselves. That's what we had to do a lot. And you guys are in that situation now. You guys are that team. I think the Patriots are a great model for what we're trying to do. We're just trying to get as many W's and rings as you guys do.

You guys are close. You guys are on your way. So what else is up? What's up with everyone in Hollywood being a Chiefs fan? Well, you know what? Kansas City, there must be something in the water because Paul Rudd, Jason Sudeikis john ham eric stone street uh dave kechner heidi gardner myself john ham brad pitt like we're all from kansas city missouri

or kansas city area who taylor swift taylor swift now taylor taylor's taylor's wearing red god bless her so we need her at the games because the production goes down from the office have you noticed? Well, because everybody wants to show up for your girlfriend. You know? Everybody wants to show up for your girlfriend. Got to. You got to.

When your girlfriend's there, it's like, it's game time. And Patrick Mahomes has to. Feeds him. We has to because his wife's friends with Taylor now. And he wants that relationship to keep going. Completely. So that, you know, it's one of those. I see it. I see it.

I see it. When she's in the crowd, you see it happening. They got handshakes. His production does that, you know, it's one of those. I see it. I see it. I see it. When she's in the crowd, you see it happening. They got handshakes. This production does go through the roof, man. It goes crazy. I'm talking about

Wife and Taylor. They got handshakes. They're doing baby toss rounds and stuff. And they're doing the hip checks. A lot of hip checks. Yeah.

They have victory dances. It's crazy. If it was a celebration on the field, some people would say you get a penalty for it. Because it's a little excessive. It's crazy. If it was a celebration on the field, some of them, some people would say you get a penalty for it. Cause it's a little excessive. It's a little too much. A little too much.

Yeah. A little excessive. Now, the funny thing is I went to that Superbowl with the Chiefs when you guys beat the 49ers and I was sitting in a box with John Hamm and Paul Rudd. Yeah. And they were on the edges of their seat yeah i mean they look i mean everyone and and like you know like uh a lot of those guys like pitt and kechner

are like missouri guys in missouri ham is a st louis guy so when his you know when the rams came back out here i think he just probably adopted the juice at that point um but the rest of us are all kansas city proper so i don't know something in the water back in the 80s and 90s do you guys have a text group yeah well we do it we do a huge charity event for children's mercy hospital in kansas city called the big slick the reason we call that because it started as a poker tournament yeah but then the missouri gaming commission made our life hell so now we do it we do a charity softball game and then we do a big show and stuff and cheryl crow she's she's headlining it this year and she's from missouri as well cheryl crow man what was that like 99 i used to love her little what was that one song all i wanna do is have some fun

looks like a feeling i'm not the only one yeah she's got a couple hits she's got a few she's got a lot she's actually going into the hall of fame i think wasn't she also there wasn't there a story back in the day where she said we should only use one square of toilet paper to save trees or something i don't know about that that's because that'd be messy after a mexican meal that doesn't feel that doesn't feel like that was thought through. She used to be a backup singer for Michael Jackson. A lot of people did. No, he's had, I think J-Lo was like one of their dancers.

Dude, when you're a circus like that, you're going to get some offsprings. Yeah, I think so. There's going to be some offsprings. How is the balance between comedy and the military easy easy it's just it's like anything else uh you know you you do you wear multiple hats right yeah so same here yeah no i never changed my personality when i went in the marine corps i was always going to be me now i was more disciplined me and there were certain things that you have to do and and different missions and different leadership things that you take on and to fit into the mold of

marine and what we do but you still have to be you yeah you know you still can't you can't become anything else or it's just it doesn't connect and people can smell that out a mile away so you just yes there was more structure yes there was more discipline yes there was a system in place but you still got to be you yeah so like there's camaraderie when you're a marine with the boys you guys are fucking getting yelled at going through all your drills which is you know i don't like to compare it but it's similar to how we hold our shit in football yeah it's a team it's a team so we used to have a guy by the name of rich ornberger and i swear he was on the team just because he entertained us for team camaraderie guilt bill kept him on the team to tell stories were you the guy that was just funny that kept guys like hopes up or you crack a joke like when when it was hard there was always great to have a guy that

was funny because everyone's fucking miserable. Everyone's like, fuck this. These coaches are assholes. And then you get a guy, you know, he says something that brightens the day. Were you that guy? Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes.

Because I was an officer, so it was hard to just joke around and be too loosey-goosey because… It was time and place. Yeah, time and place. It was always time and place, and I would pick my shots. But again, I was true to myself. Like if something made me laugh or i saw something that was ridiculous there was a chance that you were going to hear about it you know i was going to call it out or something um and and if anybody was an earshot they've heard it you know and and uh but at the same time i had to maintain good order and discipline. Order and discipline, but funny.

Yeah. Officer, who is the NFL equivalent to Ron? Rob. Jesus. It's all right. It's all right. Sorry. No, who would be the equivalent?

Rob. I'm a big fan, too. You got hit in the head for a living. We give him a big slide on this kind of stuff. Jesus Christ. There's a handful of people that I think are, it's always interesting, athletes being funny. You're not funny if you try to be funny.

That doesn't work. And what I found, like when I hosted the ESPYs and stuff, I was always trying to do bits with people. And so what I found was the default mode of athletes, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but what I observed,

the default mode of athletes is competition. They fall back into competition. They get their game face on. That's where they're comfortable. In order to do comedy, you have to be willing to look foolish. You have to be willing to look like a dummy, a dickhead, you know, obnoxious.

Vulnerability. Yeah, you have to look foolish. You have to be willing to and most athletes their default is i'm not looking foolish yeah you know that guy's the jerk that guy's a jerk i laugh at him and so the guys that are willing to look silly so you're saying kurt cousins when he performed that was it uh the the my my lease iris song i'm sure yes but like but like peyton uh man at the espies. Peyton Manning's willing to look foolish. Griffith.

I'm forgetting his first name. Robert. Not Robert Griffith. He's a basketball player. Blake Griffith. Blake. Blake. He's willing to look foolish, right?

He did that great commercial where he was on a jet pack and he was smashing into shit. That's funny. He's not trying to be. He's just willing to look foolish. So I don't know. Peyton Manning, he seems to get it. So would you put in the category of goes and falls back on competition

with Tom Brady when he hosted the SNL? I was with Tom. I was on SNL when Tom came. So did he fall back? He was great. No, he was. So did he fall back? He was great. No, he was... He didn't fall back on competition? No, he didn't.

I actually was very proud of him because he was willing to get out there and be silly and look for... We did that great parody commercial. It was a sexual harassment training. And so it was like Tina Fey and Amy Poehler and they were in this office and it was like uh tina fey and amy poehler and they were in this office and it was a training film and like fred armiston was like hi and they were like instantly

calling hr and then tom brady walks in in his underwear and they were like hey what's up it's cool you know like but he was so willing to do whatever we brought to him and that's huge too that's a you know so tom did a great job actually i like that's where i got to meet tom and and and uh he was very gracious with me like when he came to arrowhead a couple times and he was always like hey come on down and hang out you want to hate him until you meet him he's great he's he's great we we had to do that movie together uh 80 for brady oh yeah when he puts his mind to something yeah he's like really involved like he he was nervous about doing his parts and stuff so he made me go in his trailer he's like making

me run lines with them he's like how is that i'm like dude you're good you're fine you're gonna be good he's like that's why he's that's why he is who then we do it again i'd be like that's a little i think it's a little a little I think it's a little overacting. It's a little overacting. And then we do it again. Now you're getting in his head. And then we do it again. I go, that's Pacino. That's fucking Pacino right there.

That was a thing we used to have all the time in the locker room. We used to always say we'd have like a counter play or a flea flicker or a double route move, and you have to sell the first route. You have to act the first route. Yes. And if you don't you know it's spoiled it's spoiled yeah so there'd be a time where i'd run a double route or something he goes that's pacino right there it's pacino there'd be a time where i did he goes a little a little overacting they saw it brubs they saw it babe it was funny um how cool is john stewart he's really cool and he's a he i owe him

a lot he was so uh patient and gracious with me coming up and and just learning because i was still very green when i got some of my breaks you know and he was a wonderful mentor just comedically yeah you know and then also just watching him run a show and manage people, manage the writers, manage the correspondents, manage the producers. And yet he was so good at it all. He's a good leader. There's people that are special like that.

Yeah. And when I think of guys like that, it's like Devin McCourty. He was a guy that could speak in front of the guys right he worked his dick off he knew what everything was going on around and every conceptual kind of concept great guy off the field he knew how to put a hat on and be his family like there's just guys that are special that know how to just do it yeah they can compartmentalize and manage very well. That's everything. And that's the one thing everyone asks me, what makes Brady Brady?

I say it's his compartmentalization ability. I mean, it's literally insane when a guy finds out his mom's dying or has cancer a few weeks, and no one knew about it because he was the same guy at work. He handled his work, knew how it because he was the same guy at work he was just you know he handled his work knew how to you know crack a joke with the guy this that like no one knew about it i've worked with a lot of of generals i've worked with a lot of celebrities i've worked with a lot a lot of people that are in leadership positions and that is one of the i think a common

thread that runs through them all is their ability to compartmentalize yeah and effectively we can all compartmentalize to a certain degree you can't let it affect other things but can you do it sustained can you do it with big you know big things happening in your life can you keep it in its own silo no most people can't no spills over yeah it does i mean that's that's leadership yeah we have a segment where we go back into time of the game this game took place january 20th 2019 the number one movie was glass was that the uh that was the sequel to unbreakable with the train wreck yes i didn't see it but i want to see it now that i haven't seen it because i like the unbreakable yes and to see bruce willis still hooking and jabbing back in the day, because I know now his health has deteriorated, but God bless him. He's such an icon.

He's a star. He's a national treasure. He's a national treasure. Got him right on the wall. Baby, it's a chopper. He's like one of those guys that you put in the class of movie star. It's different a little bit nowadays. That's like a traditional movie star yeah just a rock star yeah yeah yeah without me by hasley or

halsey i should know that i've met her i think see i'm i can't read rob it's okay i can't read it's all right there's all kinds well, there's apps for that. Is there? Yeah. But then you have to read and download the app. You got lots of friends, though. Yeah. Do you ever watch that Fyre Fest documentary, Fire Fraud?

Yes. I did watch it. I mean, it was about that Fire Island concert that was a total bust. Yeah. And it was all BS. And when people showed up, they had like a couple mattresses, a couple shitty tents like handmade sandwiches it was a just a debacle I believe a guy in this uh specific one of

documentary said he would s a d to get off the island wow that's that's no way you know you've hit because there's people who do survivor who won't you, you know, S&D. S&D, yeah. I mean, if it floats your boat, maybe he likes that, and he was trying to manipulate that to get there. Yeah, that might have been more of a, not a cry for help, but more of just an invitation. Well, good news, Fyre Festival 2 has been announced. There's no lineup, no location, or no actual date yet,

but it's been announced. Let's buy tickets quick. Yeah. Who bought it? Who falls for that twice? Come on. I'm sure there's plenty. Oh, my God.

Lil Nas X drops Old Town Road. I'm sure we've all heard that a million times on every intro to everything at this time in life. Yes. And The Masked Singer premiered. Oh, my gosh. That thing's been around longer than I remembered. Demi Lovato's on the new one.

Gronk did it, too. Gronk did it. I was a guest host on there one time, back during the middle of COVID, so I don't think anybody knew. Actually, that's when everyone would watch it. Everyone was at home. Well, Dr. Ken and I are friends, and so he asked me to do it. So he's the best.

He's great. But here's what I remember also about this leading up to this game was in the fall of 2018 yeah the chiefs and the rams played at the coliseum in an epic game it was like like the final. 50 to 52 or something. Yeah, something. It was a 50 to 50 game, right? We're going to do that game. And it was, the wildfires were going on. And so it was, you know, it was high stakes. You know, the people of LA were rallying. It was, you know, for the firefighters and this, that, and the other. And the Chiefs came up a little short in that game.

But I remember thinking, oh my God, wouldn't this be a great Super Bowl? And sure enough, you guys went on to win that Super Bowl against the Rams. But I always thought if we had gotten back, we would have taken it to the Rams at that Super Bowl. That was such a great game. The Rams were all yellows. The game was supposed to be in Mexico City, but the turf was shit. That's right.

That's one of the games. We've got a whole list of games we want to do for the show. That's definitely high on the list. What was life like for you in 2019 2019 uh uh it was still pretty good yeah it was still pretty good yeah the the shit hadn't hit the fan yet what do you mean oh just uh you know my personal life covid oh yeah yeah you know this is right before it. The economy, elections. Like, everything went to shit pretty soon after this. And it's just now coming back a little bit.

But still, this was just before that. So my follow-up question, how have things changed since then? You got a couple Super Bowls in that time frame, though. I'll tell you what. You know, honestly, the 2020s have been garbage, except for the Chiefs. That's the only thing that's kept my head above water. So I'm unbelievably grateful that the Chiefs are doing as well as they've done. They've given me something to hope for and something to look forward to

for a good chunk of my year uh every year since 2020 you're you're a big golf guy love golf big golf guy yeah i love it do you remember where you were when tiger woods won the masters this year i was watching it so i'm i'm sure i was on my couch screaming i think what is it it's usually on a it's in the spring so it's the first week of may or it was or in april it's always april or the third week of april or something yeah i always remember it in april for whatever reason and i did go to the 2018 masters actually physically went uh that was the year that like patrick reed won yeah uh and that's fine it was you know it was fun but it was fun just to be

there because you watch the tournament your whole life and you see these iconic holes you know like amen corner and you know 18 or or the 16 the par 3 or whatever so to stand you know around the green and watch more elevated than you think it is the hills are way more dramatic way more dramatic than you think but it was just as green and as beautiful and as it was pretty cool and of course i was there with a good buddy of mine and we hadn't hung out in a while so it was just he and i and we were drinking beers and reminiscing it was just fun it was like a great 50 a beer there yeah everything's very affordable yes it was it felt reasonable but maybe that's because you had to pay so much to get in that That's probably true. But the gift store, that's what I remember.

The gift store is like a Costco. Because you can only buy merchandise from there. From there. So people are in there buying easy $1,000 worth of schwag just because they have a laundry list from all their friends. Oh, I got to get all my foursome. I got to get them whatever, ball markers and- Shirts, hats. Hats, all of it. Then you're like, I got to get my all my foursome i gotta get them you know whatever ball markers and and shirts hats all of it then you're like i get some for my dad i gotta get some for balls i walked out of like two bags full of just shit really you know but it's but i still

have i still do wear the hats i still do wear the thing from there you got it it's a great like gift for anything and the fact that you only get it there only there and they let you know that yeah you can't order this online yeah and they have it down to a science too so it was very efficient like i was i went in i grabbed what i want to put it in the sack i walked to the cash register boom credit card boom next thing i know i'm out i'm out i'm outside yeah in albert get them in and out get them in and i got jack yelling from mission control he's saying april it's april and this year was April 11th through April 14th. There you go. The Masters.

Sorry. Thanks, Jack. We miss you, dude. Women's national team wins the World Cup. We're a big women's international soccer, especially America here. With my daughter playing on the Santa Monica Surf right now. Love that. Love that.

And Brandi Chastain. I'm always proud of our women when they go on the world stage because they do very well. Generally speaking, they do very well. I'm telling you right now, I grew up playing soccer in California before I could play football in like 93 or something. I go now, fast forward, and I see my daughter, and I put her in this travel team or this club team.

These little girls are machines machines and it's because of these girls at the top you know what i mean in brandy chest team back in the day elevating soccer in the u.s for especially girls i mean these girls are insane it's it's it's it's it reminded me of like when we had our pop warner because our pop warner football where i grew up was like very meticulous very military. We were disciplined. These little girls are the same thing. It's fun to watch these. Brandi

Chastain, too. I've played golf with her. She's a stick. She could play the game. Her short game was fantastic. As a matter of fact, Jonathan Ogden was my partner. She got partnered up with Ken Griffey Jr. It was a scathan ogden was my partner yeah and she got partnered up with ken griffey jr and it was a two it was a scramble how was his swing it probably looked beautiful

ken griffey he just effortlessly hits it you know three bills off the t every time effortless but they were such a great ham and egg because he would long bomb it and her short game was incredible chipping and putting. She was draining everything. So they were like this unstoppable force. Meanwhile, Jonathan Ogden stuck with me. I'm dragging him down. He's having to get us out of so much trouble.

I keep putting us in trouble. He keeps getting us out. So anyway, she's not only great at soccer, she's a great golfer as well. What's this, the boogermobile on Monday Night Football? Oh, yeah. great at soccer she's a great uh golfer as well what's this the boogermobile on monday night football yeah oh yeah that's what he was doing that i think back with uh with my partner from holy moly joe test tour yep yeah not a i like that team people were getting on for it the boogermobile just didn't yeah it was too uh what was it too big big a swing? Too big a swing, that's right. So he wanted to be there, or they wanted him there to get field perspective and also watch? Well, I got some Burgermobile info.

So in the press conference, this was from the press conference, or the press release, McFarlane will be riding in an elevated chair that will be positioned over the line of scrimmage for each snap, giving a God's eye view of the action. He'll be transported up and down the sideline by cart equipped with two outreached arms, one for McFarlane's seat and the other for a camera operator. And also remember this blocked the most expensive seats in the stadium. That's what I kind of remember. They didn't really think it through because the camera moving up and down the sideline was always a hindrance for people who paid a lot of money. Then you double it up

and it became this basically moving billboard that just blocked out the most important part of the field. Now they have the thing on the wires where it zooms around. They don't have to have that. ESPN's solution to blocking the fans was they just put a TV on his ass to just show the broadcast on the backside yeah yeah and then when it got when it got officially killed in march of this year 2019 an espn spokesman said the custom-built

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But I guess we've got to do this. I need to see it. I need to see it for myself. I don't know. This was kind of a passing of the torch. I think it was. You know what I mean? They were the sexy, fast, fun, new age team

against the same old team that's been there for the last 20 years, plays a little slower. By the way, I was at the Super Bowl down in Houston when you guys came back on Atlanta. Oh, yeah. And I remember at the time saying to my sister who was sitting next to me, I said, you know, if the Pats are going to do this, they got to start like now.

And right when I said that, you guys like scored. And I remember thinking, okay, this is still mathematically. I was like, mathematically and time-wise, this could still happen. You need a couple things to happen, but it could happen. And it just kept unfolding. And you guys kept doing it and doing it. And it just kept falling into place. And then it got to a point where now you had the momentum.

It was destiny at this point. It was going to happen. And then when it did, I just thought, and I'm'm a chiefs fan and that was one of the most special things i ever saw that was insane yeah that was an insane game yeah all right set the stage here let's set the stage here all right you guys are coming off back-to-back super bowl appearances is that true yeah this was your third in a row? Yeah. You guys are a little showy. And four Super Bowls in what, five years? Four Super Bowls in five years.

Yeah. I think it was our sixth AFC championship in a row or seventh. So this was Patrick Mahomes' first year as a starter. MVP. MVP. Alex Smith was traded before the season. Same thing with Marcus Peters. They started off hot 5-0.

It was the fourth race season making the playoffs, and Patrick Mahomes eventually won MVP. Some notable names on the team, obviously Patrick Mahomes, Tyree Kill, Travis Kelsey, Eric Berry, Dee Ford, Chris Jones, as well as Eric Bien-Aimé, the offense coordinator, and Andy Reid, head coach. Look at Travis. He had 100 and that dude has been performing for years.

And I remember also maybe it was 2019. Williams had a really good game against us too. They don't have him on here. He was their running back. Damian Williams, I think he had two touchdowns. Yeah, he balled out. I think I hosted NFL Honors.

Yeah. When the Super Bowl was up and when you guys were playing the Eagles up in Minnesota. And I actually came to that. Did you come to that? I accepted Tom's MVP trophy for him. And I think they bleeped me out because I said LFG or something.

I thought you'd be under some sort of curfew. No, I wasn't playing. I tore my ACL. Oh, okay. It was a year I didn't play. And they lost the C-win. Come on. They had like 800 yards of offense.

You don't have to be modest. I'll do it for you. I'll say it for you. So what's our stage for the Patriots off this? So we had this young, sexy, new age, Kansas City chief team that could just score at will against anyone they got the phenom quarterback now we set the stage for the old jokers the guys that have been there for a while so Patriots were 11 and 5 first in the AFC East they were coming off back-to-back Super Bowls

as you mentioned one win the Falcons game and then a loss against the Eagles they had back-to-back double-digit losses in week two and week three, kind of a weird start. Julian also didn't really play the first couple of games for reasons. This was also the season of Miracle in Miami, where Miami won in the last second kind of lateral play. And then Gronk was defensive back for that and missed the open thing. What were we thinking?

That was bad. Keep going. That was bad. This was Jules' first season missed the open thing. What were we thinking? That was bad. Keep going. That was bad. This was Jules' first season off the ACL tear, as you mentioned, and they had a losing road record in the regular season game. Regular season, excuse me, they were 3-5. Notable names, obviously, Tom Brady, Jules, Gronk, Tony Michel's first year, Stephon Gilmore, the McCourty brothers,

Hightower. Rex had a big game. Rex had a big game. Rex had a big game this one. Hogan had a huge couple catches. So the five losses you had in that 11-5 season, do you remember the five losses? Do you remember who? Miami.

Miami? We lost to Miami. That was the miracle. They beat us in the last play. The last play. I remember that. Yeah. Okay. I remember that. Yeah. Okay, I remember that.

That's crazy, though. That's a crazy loss. Lost to the Steelers. Late in the year. Late in the year, which we never lose in November, December, which we lost. Like, we are having State of the Unions. Those are the two games.

That stick out the most? Because we lost two games when I wasn't playing. I was suspended. I was on a vacation for the first four games okay so i wasn't there so i think we lost two games there you want them i got them so lost week two against the at the jags and this is when the jags were still this is when jags were coming off hot when they had the d-line because they made the fc championship game the next year. With Blake. Got it. Or the year prior. Yeah. And then lost again at Detroit Lions on a Monday Night Football 2, Matt Patricia's Lions.

And then also lost again at the Tennessee Titans with Vrabel. Yes, we lost that one with Vrabel. Where Brady had that stumble, that kind of reverse pass, pass to Brady, and then Brady missed it off his hands. Remember that? I threw it to him. Yeah. And then you were right, Steelers.

I remember the Steelers. Steelers and I remember Miami. Those are the two. And I remember Vrabel because the whole week, whenever we play against the Titans, fucking Vrabel and Brady will be texting each other, talking shit because they played together. They won three Super Bowls together.

So I have a little story time so during this season we were filming a documentary about julian's career and like this game is kind of a turn back from acl and um we were kind of in the thick of it and we desperately wanted a tom brady interview and so knowing like how the patriots operate he was going to do it but it's just all about scheduling and finding the right time to do it so in the nfl schedule tuesdays are usually off days right and usually when the guys can do their stuff and when we would shoot with julian back the day we'd always get on tuesdays but it was a big but and if they win the game prior right so if they win the game jules usually in good spirits we can shoot some stuff so i had tom brady finally locked up i've got the interview scheduled

it was going to be this Tuesday. And I had to watch one game. If they win the game, Brady's free and clear. We got the interview. It was going to be great. And it was the Miracle in Miami game. And I'm just like, okay, you know what? We got it.

We're going to get the interview. And then the Miracle in Miami, fuck, it's not going to happen. And then credit to Tom, he did it that Tuesday. We filmed with him. Oh, good. He's a pro. He's a pro. He's a pro. He's a pro. And all he wanted to do was just talk shit about Jules for the first 20 minutes. He's a pro. He's a pro. He's a pro. He's a pro.

And all he wanted to do was just talk shit about Jules for the first 20 minutes. He's like, that guy, he's a pain in the ass. And I was like, you know. Standard. The standard is the standard. High standards. Nothing wrong. Never apologize for high standards.

All right. We set the stage. Now we have, it's time for the bounty wingman question. Bounty is everyone's favorite wingman because you can't have football without wings and you can't have wings without bounty. Do you know I was the bounty man? Yeah. Okay.

That's why we wanted to introduce this. We pitched it to them that we want you. Yeah, perfect. The bounty man. And that was actually a Super Bowl commercial. I think it was. You know how much they pay for those? Oh, a boatload so bring out the wings let's get these wings dang and our wing question is i think we do it while we're eating what's the game day

when the chiefs are on the hollywood squad is fully packed and ready. Yeah. Uh, text chaining each other. What's the ideal game day spread look like to you? I need comfort food usually to help with Saturday nights activities. And also, you know, anything you throw in the crock pot, like a chili chili or a, you know,

a beef stew or a pot roast, you know, or something like that that makes the whole house smell good yeah and then you get to chow down and they put it in in the morning and by the afternoon it's so ready to go what's your auxiliary piece for the stew crock pot thing is it a rice is it a cornbread is it a potato sides are important i'm a big potato guy i love potatoes with most meals i gotta have because if you put like a mashed potato, I always like stew on top of something, like either a white rice.

So almost like a shepherd's pie? Would you do mashed potato? Love shepherd's pie. I could do a shepherd's pie all day. Love pot pies, shepherd's pies. Pot pie's good too. Love a pot pie. You can't go wrong with pot pie.

No, you can't. That's what we used to call Christian Nicoya back in the 90s because he did this – there was this grocery chain in Kansas City, and he'd always be selling – he'd always be promoting the turkey pot pies. And so we just called them pot pie. You know, the one thing you need with a pot pie because it's so gooey and they just put the crust on over, the one thing you need is great paper towels and bounty is that great paper towel to just wipe it off your face.

You're not wrong about that, Jules. This ain't super- And look, he's got great facial hair. I'm a facial hair guy. You've got to have a real sturdy, sturdy paper towel. So that's the wingman question of the day. Now let's get back to our other thing. Another big thing about this game was it was the first,

because even in 93, we had to play that in Buffalo. This is the first time we had hosted an AFC game ever in Arrowhead, ever. Do you know what the crazy thing about it was? So it was really special, and I was so bummed I couldn't be there. But go ahead, what was it? Well, it was, what night was it? It was Blood Moon. The Blood Moon.

Blood Moon. Super Blood Wolf Moon is when Earth's moon in a total lunar eclipse has a reddish appearance and coincides with a super moon and a full wolf moon. It's a very rare event. The next one is supposedly going to take place in 2029 so it was just already a bonkers night to start yeah the something was in the air something bill collins needs he's playing something in the air tonight i can't i can't listen to that song i listened to it before miami ohio game 2007 and we lost and so from there on out, I never listened to it.

Done with that one? That was off the list? Yeah. So leading up to this game, the two teams met in week six this year. The Patriots won 43-40. That game was at Gillette Stadium. Both teams finished 2-2 in their last four games. Also notably, this is a little bit of a changing of the guard

or starting the rise of the Kansas City dynasty maybe or very good best team in the AFC. Brady was 41 years old. Mahomes is 23 years old. This was the eighth straight AFC championship game for new England. And there's also a little bit in the, in Jules wants to talk about a little bit, but there's the second dynasty,

the Patriots, they weren't good on the road. They didn't win a lot of road games. So, yeah. So, I mean, we were what three and five on the road in in this year and going into this game we blew out the chargers we just played we started fast they couldn't handle us at home and after that we knew we had to go on the road. My part of the dynasty, there's two dynasties really in New England. There's the early 2000s and then there's the late 14, 16, 18, which are completely different teams. We never won on the road. We just couldn't do it on the road. That was like the mantra for this whole team. They can't win on the road. We sucked on the road during the

season. So we were getting harped at all preparation for this game. They kept on showing the old Patriots games when they went into the, what is it and 2 15 and 1 san diego chargers beat them over there and as this team was you know making our case of our our little dynasty like we were so sick and tired of hearing about the old patriots troy brown teddy bruski fucking rabe i was it made me sick so we were like we were ready for this we wanted to go on the road we wanted to fucking play the sexy team of the future. The team that everyone was talking about. No one was talking about us doing anything, this thing.

So we were all like really hyped up for this game going into it. It did feel like the season was building for a Chiefs Super Bowl. It was everything. All the stars were aligning. The Rams, it was pretty clear they were going from the NFC. it was going to be a rematch of that great monday night football game it just felt like that should be that's what was going to unfold so when you guys won this game i remember it was kind of a gut shot because it it took the wind out of us quite a bit so what was your like when you found out you were playing us in the championship at home,

what's game plan for the week? Like in on glacier, I was on the glacier. My only thought was, um, and to me it's that old Elway, Montana thing, you know,

who's got, who's got more magic. And I never underestimate Tom Brady. He's shown it time and time and time and time again with multiple teams, with multiple situations, scenarios, whatever. He just knows how to do it. He's clearly done it. He's done it better than anybody.

But I also really, really believed in what Patrick Mahomes was doing. I believed in his magic. And I actually saw some of his magic firsthand not in football playing golf playing golf because he would say you know he would he has this unbelievable focus and he would it's like if he speaks it out loud it comes into existence yeah it's really this weird manifestation thing where he because we're playing golf and we got to this part three and he was like he was like i'm gonna put this within two feet of the hole because he'd been losing like the last several holes and he's like, he was like, I'm going to put this within two feet of the hole because he'd been losing

like the last several holes. And he was like, for all the money, you know, a double or not the triple or not, I don't care. It's going next to the hole. That's it.

And there was no reason to believe him because he had sucked for the last three holes. But then all of a sudden, she like a laser, his focus crystallized his, everything just happened. He put it within two feet of the hole, tapped it in for bird,

won the hole every year. And i was like this guy when he decides to dial there ain't much anybody's gonna do to stop it now did did you did you did you take part in watching how he does his putt when he does his little shoulder thing do you ever see that whenever yeah yeah it's like it's the old shooting the cups yeah like he'll go here and he'll like do this thing. So I started doing it to my game because Tom does it. But to start this game out, we wanted – I think we got the ball and we wanted to go in and show these guys that we were a fucking physical football team.

And you saw it from that first drive. Sonny Michel, I think it was the first play,ed off like a 13 or 10 yard run. We were driving the ball. We had a very methodical, I don't know, 10, 11, 12 play drive where we're converting third downs. We were skipping third downs. We were running the ball down their throat. And it just felt like we had some power, right? We had some power going in this we go and we score we convert a third down two third downs we score in the red area we run the ball and we wanted to run the ball in if you want to be a tough physical football team when you get the ball in the red area nothing shows you are tough more than if you run the ball in the end zone and

we did that so like we got in there we had confidence high we go out there and our defense goes up on the field and Patrick Mahomes goes and I don't know if they went three and out but we stopped him and our defense had confidence and then we I think we got the ball back and a lot of time was taken off the clock right for those two drives? Yeah. The first drive was eight minutes long. Eight minutes long. Wow.

That's half the quarter. Over half the quarter. That's what we wanted to do. We wanted to keep Patrick Mahomes on the sideline. Yeah. And so then the second drive, we get it, and we're driving into the second. We bring it the same thing. We're bringing it down the field.

Gronk gets a catch. Hogan gets a catch. Sony's running great. James White's making great plays. We get in the red area, and I think Tom threw the pick. We were on the two-yard line, second down. Tom threw a pick in the end zone, and that's how fast momentum changes in an NFL game. But that team, having the mental toughness,

and that team being the Patriots, had the mental toughness. Our defense stops them again. And so this is like the first time they're not scoring points, and we go down, and we drive the ball. We get the ball again, and we threw a touchdown pass to Phillip Dorsett, probably in like a fringe, so like a 35-yard touchdown on a third down. And we go into half 14-0. And we're sitting there, and we're like, this is tough,

but this team's very explosive. You know this team is going to make a play or two. They have too many good plays on film. Their quarterback's too explosive. They have playmakers everywhere. But we were very confident. And then what happened in the second half how did it start well to wrap up the first half so um the chiefs first three

drives they had eight plays in their first three drives for negative two yards jeez and then that's a cold start and then to start i'm glad it was coming in slow i'm glad i missed the some of this stuff no it i'm telling telling you, we were whooping up on them. And our defense was playing crazy. Van Noy, Hightower, Flowers. Fucking Gilmore had some good plays. Landon Roberts. Well, you just tapped on something when you talked about the mental toughness

when the interception happened. It's interesting to hear a player's perspective because i think you know fans don't have any appreciation or not nearly the appreciation they should have for what's happening on the field they think it's just just do it you know like you know catch the ball dummy and you know that kind of stuff so they don't have any appreciation but i think when you're in a high stakes game like that it takes everything you have from your physical abilities to your mental abilities to your emotional and things that you wouldn't think of in a game but just just resilience you know just to be able to say i gotta get back up we just screwed away the best opportunity we had to slam the door shut now it's whatever 14 point swing you know whatever it is but you have

to be able to say okay it's not over you got and it's almost that goldfish mentality where you have to forget and move on and forget and move but that kind of resilience people unless you've done it unless you've built up that muscle that emotional muscle which nobody thinks of uh you'll lose and you'll falter when the heat's on and And that's a great point because the emotional muscle is something that we used to work in practice, in games when we'd come back. So we had that emotional muscle where if shit hit the fan, we were still mentally tough enough to say,

all right, we could still work our way out of that and we had a lot of data we had a lot of experience in that and going into a game like this in the AFC championship on the road yes you're up 14 points at halftime but you know for a fact that this thing's coming down to the end so you better be prepared you're just sitting there thinking like we're making this harder on ourselves because five bad plays changes a play, a game. You could play 90% of your great game, but if situationally on certain situations you do not perform,

red area, third down. Like that's when the game gets away. Absolutely. So it's the team that makes the least amount of mistakes. And at that point we were like, man, we should have got that one because we knew that this team was explosive, and they weren't out of it, even though it was 14-0. This team's too fucking good.

Well, credit to the Chiefs, so they start off the second half with a touchdown in under three minutes. Touchdown under three minutes. They play to Sammy Watkins and then a touchdown to Travis Kelsey. They follow up with a Patriots kick a field goal, but then there's back-to-back Damian Williams touchdowns, so they go up 21-17. In the third, or in the fourth?

In the fourth, yes. So we were battling out. It was kind of stale for most of the third. They hit a three, then we had a long drive where we got a field goal, and then they got another drive where they scored, and there were these long, methodical drives. It was great fucking football. Yeah.

You know what I mean? When you have execution that was going on both sides of the ball, and it wasn't just the offenses. The defenses were making plays. And it's a straight chess match. This shit's chess. You know that you're going to lose some of your pieces. You know that they're going to have a 28-yard fucking game to Tyreek Hill

because the guy's done it all year. You just got to contain it. And so then we go into that fourth quarter, and it was like, what was it? It was 14-17 going into the fourth. Yes. Then they went up to 24-17. 21-17, yep.

21-17. And then Sonny Michel scored with three minutes left to go up 24-21. Three minutes left. Yeah. Then the Chiefs respond with a game in Williams. This is about where I started to focus and really get, you know, start screaming. And so this is about the time I start screaming at my phone

because I'm getting it so slow. You know, so I'm like, did we score? Did we not score? We're in the red zone. Field goals aren't going to do it. This is where I'm losing my shit. It's 3 a.m. on an iceberg. Just to let you know, also, the league could have been picking on someone or

us because J.C. Jackson had four fucking penalties that three of them, yeah, this AFC championship championship they're giving them they were getting chunk plays on these plays remember that jc jackson had like four yeah crazy 30 yard game penalties pis holding he still got paid a lot but so there was so fun fact for all you people who love the over 38 total points for scoring the fourth quarter. Jeez. Wow.

You know what that is? That's two great boxers feeling each other out until the last round, and then they let their hands fly. Flying. Flying. Flying. And then so what? They scored.

They went up 21-17. Yeah, with three minutes left, Sonny Michel scored. They go up 24-21. Then a quick drive from the Chiefs again. Damian Williams' touchdown to go up 28-24. Then you guys drove down. Patriots drove down with 40 seconds left. Rex Burkhead had a four-yard touchdown. This is when I thought the game was over.

It's under a minute. Look at the scoring that took place under two minutes. From the two-minute warning to the end of the game, all the scoring that took place. On this drive though on this last drive word it was we needed a touchdown to get back into it and we were on that what is it uh 40 seconds that when we scored with the last drive before the field goal we kicked it or we we threw an interception and they lined up in the neutral zone. I'm sitting there. I didn't see the flag, but then I saw – I thought we lost the game. Now, who lined up – is this one – we're talking about –

Right there. Dee Ford, yeah. Okay, yeah. Ford lined up in the neutral zone, right? Yes. But that would have been the game, right? That would have been the game. That would have been the game.

You guys intercepted the ball. Yes. Kansas City intercepted the ball. And that would have been it. We would have been on our you guys intercepted the ball yes kansas city intercepted the ball and that would have been it we would have been going we would have been on our way to the super bowl i was literally walking and one of their we no one really saw the flag i didn't see the flag i everything was going in my head like we just lost a fucking game fuck this red blue mud moon thing i'm literally thinking about man we got to get our fucking plastic bags ready it's gonna be a

shitty flight home we should have been going to the super bowl and the flag comes up i'm like wait a minute what one of their players i forgot who it was he said man you guys had a hell of a year this year but it ain't your year you said that to me i forgot who it was and then i saw the flag i'm like fuck you yeah we got this shit let's go we're all there and once we got that flag we ended up getting it we scored and then they fucking came back and kicked a field goal with 40 seconds i'm sitting here like what the hell's going on wasn't there a big penalty on there they got the ball with 39 ish seconds left uh kicked the field goal yeah there was two 20-yard completions one dispenser wear and one to robinson uh to get them in field goal range and then harrison butker kicked a 39-yard completions, one to Spencer Ware and one to Robinson to get them in field goal range.

And then Harrison Butker kicked a 39-yard field goal with eight seconds left. Oh, what a game. I think that's, so, okay, so I remember, the scoring happened so fast from the two-minute down, right? Back and forth, back and forth. That it wasn't coming to me fast enough. Yeah.

So I kept being confused. Like, is it over? Is it not over? What the fuck's going on? And it, so then when I saw overtime, you know, I basically just chucked my phone. I was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me at this point. And I was exhausted.

I was so exhausted. Like, I was on borderline tears, exhausted. And I was keeping everybody in that little area of the glacier. There was only, like, three of us. It was Bear. We had an assistant. You know, one of his former Royal Marine guys was his helper. And then me.

And I was keeping them all awake. And they were like, shut the fuck up. They were so mad at me. But whatever, dude. It's the UFC Championship. You got to understand. It's exactly what you just said. Two boxers feeling each other out through three.

And then the last two minutes, Joker's going for haymakers. Everyone's technique's fully gone. We're just trying to knock someone out. Game ends. We go to overtime. Yeah, so when the game ends at a tie, what's the vibe on your side of the field?

What's the vibe? So our vibe is... Confident or nervous? No, we were confident. We're like, screw that. If we get the ball, we're scoring, we're winning, and we're going to the Super Bowl. They get the ball, our defense was confident. Because we were bottling them up.

We were being annoying with them. They weren't getting their big, big plays. They had a few of them. But we felt like we had a shot regardless. But once Matthew Slater went up there and said heads, and he says, you guys win the toss, and he just straight up said, we want the ball, and we walked away. That's when I knew we were going to the Super Bowl.

Wow. Something inside. It wasn't just being amped up. You felt it in your bones. I felt it in our bones through our execution. We were executing things. We were able to run the football and when you run the football and especially later in the game yeah we're always the best shaped team we were always in the most shape as a team

we used to run this stupid fucking hill the guys would complain about but then at the end of games you could finish games because you weren't as tired as them. So you could literally run the ball down people's throat. And that's what we did. We ran it down their throat. We had a couple good third down conversions. And then Rex Burkett, we put it in jumbo. He ran it right in. We were going to the Super Bowl.

It was fucking crazy. So the overtime drive. Talk about what you just talked about. Was there any controversy? So it was a controversy with ford being in the yes at least for us yes it's controversial there's controversy that i touched a ball on a punt earlier in the game as well okay we threw an interception the next so the next play that null and void any controversy that should so yeah the controversy so over time patriots had a

15 play 80 yard touchdown drive jesus. 15. That's soul-sucking. They converted three third-and-tens, and it ended with Rex Burkhead punching in a two-yard run. You converted three third-and-tens? Three. This is also peak Tony Romo booth. Oh, yeah. This is probably the apex of Tony Romo.

He was predicting all the plays. Rich Eisen has a tweet about calling him Romo Nostradamus kind of thing. Yeah, and he was even saying, because a lot of those third and longs, Jules was getting the third and down. So he was like, third and Edelman, third and Edelman. And then the controversy is, after this game, the Chiefs, with their prolific offense, never got to touch the ball in overtime.

So after this game, they pitched a new rule where everyone can touch the ball in overtime. And I have some more details on that in a second. This was the one that actually changed the whole program? It started the ball rolling. Started the ball rolling. Wow. Well, I do remember thinking in overtime,

I always liked the college overtime it seems like the most fair thing there is it's the most fair way to settle it nfl overtime never struck me as fair i completely agree with you and i think the only tweak you do is you just instead of having it be like the 20 to 25 just like put it to the 50 exactly take exactly take it back to the 50 and do it the exact exact same way. The thing is, though, they're afraid that would have more football. What do you mean? So you could potentially have more plays if teams were to go, you know, start at the 45, 50, and then they kick a field goal.

Other teams start at the 45, 50, they kick a field goal. All right, there's nine plays. But then with each overtime, you confine it and make it harder and harder. We have to go for two-point conversions. Yeah, you can. There's ways to do it. So by the time you get your third overtime, you confine it and make it harder and harder. We have to go for two-point conversions. Yeah, you can. There's ways to do it. So by the time you get your third overtime, it's – Or, Rob, you could just stop them.

Is that for player safety? I heard you. Is that for player safety? That's what they say. You see, I'll water off a duck's back, man. I'll let that stuff – Yeah. I think that's for player safety.

Player safety. That's what they say. I don't know. But I do know that you guys won an over two years later. Very much similar to the Buffalo Bills. That game blew me away. I was so exhausted after that game. I literally just laid on the couch because I screamed.

My voice was gone. My dad and I, because my dad was out here visiting me, and we both just sat on the couch just absolutely exhausted but happy but just there was nothing left of us we were puddles and we didn't do anything except watch the game no you're invested you're part of it it's it it is do you guys understand when you guys play i know you you understand that the fans love the team. But do you know what it means to the fans? Do you have an appreciation for how much they appreciate you?

You do. I played in Boston. Great fans out there. Anywhere you go, they took care of you in all facets they love their football players they love their hockey their baseball their and they love it all out there that's a sports town they you know hardcore sports town for sure you know they were they were on the edge of their seats right with us because none of our games came easy like any of our super bowls we were down 28 to 3 we were down 10 points in fourth quarter to Seattle.

Fucking the barn burner against the Rams where it was just a defensive bat. Like a lot of heart palpitation in all of our games for everyone. Absolutely. So to wrap up this game, Patriots won 37-31. Went on to play the Super Bowl, as we mentioned. Won the Super Bowl. Jules won MVP. And then since then, the Chiefs have gone 59-16.

They've gone to four straight AFC championship games, three Super Bowl appearances, two Super Bowl wins, and I don't know, countless Patrick Mahomes stats and blah, blah, blah. So last year, I got to lead the victory parade down in Kansas City. That'd be awesome. They were all on these buses, right? And they were getting gassed up early, you know. So, and it was Eric Stone Street and myself.

They put us like clowns in a golf cart out in front of the teams. So we went down the, we'd go down the main street because we went all the way from the river all the way to union station and eric and i are you know we're just two idiots you know having the time of our life driving down in a golf cart but we were just doing s's in front of the buses going side to side getting the crowd revved up you know as the as the buses came down how many people they have at those like a mill oh my god easy yeah easy that's really because it it Because it was at least 10 people deep for the entire, you know, whatever it was, two or three miles from the river to the Union Station.

It was just unbelievable on that route. After that, what's the grieving process? For the downside? Yeah, the downside after this kind of game like that. This one took a long time. You had that short memory going where you were thinking about whatever the glacier thing was going. So you're like, that's something good to...

The next day I had to pull myself over a frozen river. It's like a zip line, but you go down and then it stops. And you're just dangling over a river. And then you have to pull yourself up the other side. And it took everything I had. And I was dehydrated. That was hard. So my mind was off it immediately.

I was like, well, done. And then, of course, I don't think, I think the pain stuck around long enough that I didn't watch the Super Bowl. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch that one. So that was, you one. It missed much. Congratulations to you, though.

What's the legacy of this game for you guys? This is kind of like the slingshot. You know what it was? You guys won it next year, right? It was putting it on notice. I went to that Super Bowl because it was the first one in my lifetime for the Chiefs. It was down in and i went and and it was everything i

hoped it would be it was dramatic we came from behind it was fourth quarter it was everything i hoped it would be uh i didn't go to the bucks super bowl when brady won't beat us again um but i did go to the last one in phoenix when the Eagles. And I said, that was another wonderful moment. So all good. But the game that the AFC championship against you was first, it was a, it was a wonderful moment for Kansas city. Cause we had an AFC chip.

We hosted an AFC championship game. And then it was also kind of, it was a coming out party. It was, you know, Hey, we there's this new team in town. These are going to, we're going to be good for a long time if we can stay healthy you know we're going to be

contenders for a long time so that was special and it also reminded us that nothing's guaranteed because that season you know we were 12 and 4 we were team of destiny where you know we thought we were king king shit a turd. Turns out we can be beat. So then you go, oh, yeah, every game matters. We got to, you know, everything matters. It's not over until it's over. It's not over until you're holding the Lombardi trophy. The football gods are crazy.

They are crazy. And they giveth and taketh. I went to that New York Super Bowl when the Seahawks just beat the tar out of the Broncos. And it got away fast. Within the first minute, there was a over-snap out of the out of the Broncos. And it got away fast. Within the first minute, there was a – Oversnap. Oversnap out of the back of the end zone. And from then on, nobody ever looked back.

That game was over in the first quarter. Yeah, I mean – But so you never know which way these things are going to go. You just never know. You just never know. I think Brady had three Super Bowls by the time he was Patrick's age right now and then took him 10 years to get to another one. And get his next.

I mean, this is a hard fucking thing. Yeah. right now and then took him 10 years to get to another one yes you get his next i mean these this is this is a hard fucking thing yeah and to go back to you know first time hosting an afc championship over in kansas city i have to say that that place is probably top three most electric outdoor stadiums I've ever been to. Like, we got our ass beat there on Monday Night Football once. Remember that whole thing? And then when we went there, like, it was, that place gets so loud. And they get rocking. And their fans aren't, like, particularly mean.

Yeah. They're not mean to you. But they yell, and they'll say stuff. But, like, you go to other places. You go to Philadelphia. Forget about it. Forget about it. It was a great place to play a football game.

I will say this about Arrowhead. Arrowhead is incredible. Just what you said. It's electric. It's loud. Seattle and us, we're always battling for our stadium volume, supremacy. We would hit certain decibels you know all that stuff it's true it's real but if you come to arrowhead and you're in your patriots gear okay no one's

gonna harass you no you don't get any shit in kansas city people let you enjoy the game do that at a raiders game no can't do it can't do it kyler we miss anything a couple quick fun facts um just would be remiss if we didn't mention that Sonny Michel had 29 carries, 113 yards, and two touchdowns, and a pretty incredible run that whole playoff matchup. Also, I got some clarification from Sheryl Crow. She, after a nationwide global warming tour, the singer-songwriter Sheryl Crow says,

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game so the names that we have and you can add if you want are the super blood wolf moon game the dynasty lives on game the d ford game the you're too old game the third and edelman third and edelman well so okay okay there's to me it's down to two because as a chiefs fan i remember it as the d ford game that's how i'll always remember it all right because it would have been been over, but for him being in the neutral zone. Yeah. So that haunts me. And I'm not picking on him. Yeah.

But that's how I remember it. Hey. But third and element's pretty damn great, and this is your show. Nah, I think it's the you're too old Brady game. That was a huge. It's not the Super Blood Wolf Moon game? Super Blood Wolf Moon? Well, see, that, it's's sexy i'm not going to say

it's not sexy it is sexy but i don't know again i was on the losing side we got to go the d4 game d4 game let's do it the stakes one to ten decimals okay what are your stakes on this game this is i mean this is as high as you can get. I would assume. What's the max? One to ten? Ten. It's got to be a ten.

Star power. It's a ten. Are you kidding me? You have Mahomes. You have Brady. You've got you. You've got Kronk. Travis Kelsey. You've got Kronk and Kelsey.

I mean, yeah. Star power. Bill Belichick. Also. Oh, yeah. And the two great coaches of all, you know. Joe Montana was in the stands that game. Was Joe Montana there montana there he was

rooting on the team what do we what stars do we have there we had any stars and i mean were you guys i'm sure uh rudd was there i'm sure uh ham was there i'm sure i'm sure there's a madman stoney i know stoney was there i think he even has a suite so yeah i think i mean so star power 10 yeah gameplay overtime it's got to be a 10. Anytime you go to overtime. That fourth quarter. And the last two minutes of the game with all that score going. Fucking electric. Yeah.

I told you. I had to rewatch right before you got here. I wanted to run through the fucking wall afterwards. Okay. Name of the game. The name, though, the D4 game. It's either D4, but that's only for Chiefs fans. Scoring.

I think Super Bowl. No, no, no. The score of the D4 game. You's only for Chiefs fans. I think Superblood, Wolfmoon. The score of the D4 game, you gotta rate your... We gotta rate our name. What? And the name is really more of the cultural relevance of this game, right? How long... How much cachet does this live in your brain? How much

does this live on Patriots? You know, how much does this matter? If that's the case, I want to go back and go with Superblood, Wolfmoon. Because that's the sexy name. There you go. You won't get any arguments with me on that. That's way sexier than the D4 game. So what's your score on that name then? The name is as sexy as it gets.

That's, look, for me, 10. Are we doing our first perfect game? Hey, let's do it. So first. I mean, even if I was stingy even if i was the russian judge on the name it stills coming in somewhere between a nine five and a ten hey so this is my favorite game in the patriots dynasty history i'm not going to complain well let's see where it marks up with the other games let's just put it in context where this is so this would be at the top right eating maverick's heat which we had

we had mark cuban on mark cuban on and he's thousand i'm sorry but this is far better than game six maverick but but it's better than 2004 uh yankee afc als championship game yankees red socks patriots giants 18 and one the 99 when, the 99 Women's World Cup. 28, the three better. Wait, did you guys talk about the 2004 Red Sox? We did with Ortiz. With Ortiz. Big poppy. And that didn't get 10 across the board?

Well, at the time, our co-host was a Yankees fan, so I've got to lie. It's tough. Hey, I'll take this one being number one. Anything to beat Mavericks Heat. Sorry, Cubes. Yeah, you're going to have to put it up there. And feel free, if Cuban wants to call and debate, I'm available. Well, I got a pitch for him, but I told him I'd never pitch him.

But I pitched him 30 times on this show. You want to plug anything? He didn't shark anything? No, I said I don't want to pitch him. So even if he did, but I told him if I had a scenario, if I was going to sell something which i did he didn't really address it so it was a passive no pass it was a it was maybe a pencil yes that's a better way to look at it that's the right way to look at it do you what you got it you got anything to plug uh uh riggles picks podcast ripples picks and i'm coming riggles picks yeah and i'm coming on it i hope so You got anything to plug? Riggles Picks podcast. Riggles Picks.

And I'm coming. Riggles Picks. Yeah. And I'm coming on it. I hope so. Yeah. I'd love to have you. Oh, my God.

That'd be fantastic. So Riggles Picks podcast, hopefully we're going to be launching here November 15th. First interview will be with Mr. Kelsey himself. First interview. Yeah. That'll be nice. We've got a bunch. We've put and put stuff in the can and trying to get this thing back on its feet it's actually a relaunch i had done this

for about three years prior to covid and then covid uh kind of shut down and like i said remember the beginning of the 2020s has been hard so now hopefully you know we're going to relaunch and it'll be fun that'll be fun i mean that's the perfect guy to have on to launch something right now. Yeah, absolutely. New Heights bump. New Heights bump. Nice bump. There you go.

Thank you for coming, man. That was awesome. Hey, thanks. Yeah, I appreciate it, dude. Appreciate your service, too. Absolutely. Thanks. That was awesome.

What a guy. Good interview. I was watching back the tape. Good interview. Yeah. Would have been a little better if I was there. I knew that something was missing. I needed raw.

I needed Jackie. I needed Jackson. I'm just kidding. Kyler killed it. How many times did I mispronounce his name? Oh, Ron Riggle, all that. Bert Hill. Jesus Christ. Bart Kreischer and Reggie Williams.

Folks. It's tough. Been hitting the head for a living. It's tough, man. I'm not saying nothing. I'm not saying nothing. The alliterations names are tough. The double R.

He was a good sport, though. He was. He understood. You know, he's names are tough. The double R. He was a good sport, though. He was. He understood. You know, he's a Marine guy and came in. All the people in military, they always come on time. They're all pros. Prompt. If you're five minutes early, you're late.

You can tell he's just a professional. Pro. Pros, pro. Funny in whatever he does. Hilarious, dude. Oh, my God. That was awesome. I got a quick stat correction here for you. Even though I wasn't here, I'm always watching, pro. Funny. And whatever he does. Hilarious, dude. Oh, my God. That was awesome. I got a quick stat correction here for you.

Even though I wasn't here, I'm always watching, baby. So I got a quick stat correction. Jules, you made the slight mistake. Happens to the best of us. Called Rob a former Marine. But we will clarify here, once a Marine, always a Marine. Our bad, Rob. My bad, Rob.

We love you. I'm sorry. I'm not a word guy. I'm not what some would say, a Shakespearean guy of the English language. That was good. That was good. What a fun episode.

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