Games with Names - The White Sweater Game with Nikki Glaser | 2023 AFC Divisional Round: Chiefs vs. Bills

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Nikki Glaser is in studio! Together, we're looking at an all-time playoff game between the Buffalo Bills and the Kansas City Chiefs en route to Kansas City repeating as Super Bowl Champs. Nikki joins ...us on the couch (0:37). We go back to January of 2024 (50:27). We look back at these teams (59:23). We get into the game (1:17:23). We score it (1:24:43). We wrap it up by reading some of your Apple Podcast reviews (1:35:23). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:22 On today's episode, we are covering the 2023 AFC divisional round game between the Chiefs and the Bills with comedian, actor, writer, and legendary roaster, Nikki Glaser. And we get into talking about why she roasted me so hard. Squinty eyed f**k boy, that's what she called me. That joke really did take a lot of work to get to for how dumb it is, but...
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Starting point is 00:04:38 Taylor Swift, the Kelsey family. Oh my God, Jason, put your shirt back on. Hey, we got a football game going on. This is the White Sweater Game. This is the White Sweater Game. This is the White Sweater Game. Get comfy, yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I like your angle. Why? Like this, like this. I get comfy. Yeah, you got it. And I got bad back. Oh, God, no. Well, not like bad, bad back, but like if I sit like a seat, you got it. And I got bad back.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Oh, God. No. Well, not like bad, bad back, but like, if I sit like a certain way for a long time, I get fucked. Fuck. And it's from football? Or was it always, have you- No, yeah, just from like, when you get injured anywhere, like your biomechanics of how you
Starting point is 00:05:23 walk or how your gait is, it changes millimeters. So I've had 14 surgeries. So there's changes everywhere in my body. And then all up and down. Yeah, and everything's connected. You know what I mean? So like your whole posterior chain is connected. So you have a bad knee, it could mess up your back. Oh my God. Yeah. Because you're hip, you know what I mean? So I do, you know, I just, you know, I try to stay active and I do yoga
Starting point is 00:05:46 and I still work out and stuff, but I definitely feel my body. Oh, fuck. How old are you? Just from 38. Fuck! Yeah. You're not supposed to feel your body yet at 38.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, but I live in a cool house because of it. It's worth it. It's absolutely worth it. But you're not in pain right now. I'm not in pain right now. Okay, that's good. I'll be later tonight. But do you like, do you get massages and stuff?
Starting point is 00:06:07 Like you get stuff done all the time? Yeah, I mean, so I used to get it like every day, twice a day when I was playing. And then as soon as I stopped, it kind of like, I was so pooped from the game. Yeah. Like that it reminded me of work. Yeah, I feel like part of it.
Starting point is 00:06:21 So like I gave away body treatment for like a year and a half, two years. like, and I'm all going on your three. I started back up last year. Good. But like picture it like you're a Kobe beef, like getting massaged every day. They feed you right. And then all of a sudden you just quit, you know, do anything. Your body's like, what the fuck is going on? What is happening? Why haven't I been touched? Why haven't I been manipulated? Why haven't I been manipulated like, oh, wow. But it's not even like. But the massages you guys get aren't like relaxing.
Starting point is 00:06:50 No, it can be pain. They're painful. Yeah, it depends on what type of treatment you get. There's like a RT where you active release, where they get to a pressure point. I watch that stuff on YouTube. Yeah. And then there's like soft tissue. I was a soft tissue guy, so it was painful with movement to like warming, bring blood to your muscles. So that's how you get promote recovery. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:10 The whole TB 12. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You were into that. Yeah. Very into it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I learned about you in reference to. And let's let's start this thing off. Let's do it. Welcome to games with names today. We are looking at the Chiefs versus Bills 2023 AFC Divisional Game, or as some would call it, the Kelsey Shirt Off Game.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Oh yes. Jason Kelsey Shirt Off Game with Nikki Glaser. Welcome to the studio. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited. Thank you for coming. This has been way too long, I feel, after our first time really meeting.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah, I saw you in preparation for the roast. You were going out and working on your set at the Comedy Store. You were with Jeff Ross one night, and I was there preparing as well, and I wanted to meet you, but I was scared. And they were like, we'll go introduce you. And I'm like, no, he's working, and he doesn't wanna meet.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Like, I just, I had so much fear around it. I just had never been around athletes. Like, I don't know. I just put you guys all on a pedestal, but you're pretty real and you're a lot like comics. And I should have met you that night. But then I met you right before I went on stage and you were so nice and cool.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And then she called me a squinty eye fuck boy. I did call you a squinty eye fuck boy. Oh my God. Where's the lie? Where's the joke? That's just true. That was just a jokegy, I fuck boys. Oh my God. Where's the lie, where's the joke? That's just true. That was just a joke. It's comedy, it's comedy. We need it, you need, that's what you need in roast sets.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You need one that's just like, what does this person look, what's the dumbest thing you can say to describe this person? Like don't even try to be clever, just say what it is. And that was, that joke really did take a lot of work to get to for how dumb it is. But it- You should have called us, we had a lot of ammo. I really should have, next time.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Oh my God. We'll jump into it more. Squinty eyed fuck boy, I can't believe I called you that. That's so rude. I didn't even know you. That's comedy. What the, like, yeah, we gotta talk about it, but I forgot we talk about a game on the show.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, exactly, all the clips, I'm like, What that like yeah, we got to talk about it, but I forgot we talk about a game on the show Exactly all the clips I'm like you guys sent me a list of games to choose like a what is this? Every clip I've seen I've never seen a game discussed in detail, but I'll do it just Right you're right you're right. I love your clips by the way, you know, thank you in one sentence Let's bring it to the game. Why'd you pick this game? I picked this game because it just seemed like a, like it was a game where I fell in love with Jason Kelsey, really saw him for who he is just, and then also Taylor was there.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I mean, like I was gonna, you guys gave me a list of all the Taylor games and I just felt like this one was a fun one because of the Jason element. And like, and then just his wife afterwards saying like, I just like let him go. Like, and he was just threatening, I'm gonna take off my shirt. And she's just like, I just like let him go. Like, and he was just threatening, I'm gonna take off my shirt.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And she's just like, yeah, just go do it. And I'm like, that's couples goals there. Like just let each other be who they are. I like everything around this game. I liked the game itself. Don't know what happened. Yeah. It's a great game.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Okay, great game. Okay, let's get into that too. Because I wanna be clear. Do we have to? So it's just the greatest game of all time then? Probably. I do believe what happened on the field has gone down in history.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I'm learning about football right now. I started with obviously Taylor in the fall going to games and being like, okay, I guess I have to watch this and try to understand it because I do, I respect everyone who loves football and is obsessed with it, but I've just never been able to do it
Starting point is 00:10:24 because I don't understand it. And it's like a catch-22 that my boyfriend keeps going, well, if you watch enough, you'll understand it. And I go, but it's not interesting to me because I don't understand it. So to understand it, I have to watch it, but I don't wanna watch it because I don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:10:34 So I'm stuck, but I have actually learned, I've studied, I went from knowing literal zero about football. I mean, zero to, I like how my friends quiz me now. Like I'm pretty good on it now because it is. What's offense? Well, that's like the people that move the ball forward. That's great answer. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Ding ding ding ding, what's defense? It's the people who prevent the offense from moving the ball forward. Okay, don't patronize me with these questions. I mean, that's pretty good. That's good. That actually is nice of you. If you're being sincere, that's nice that you started out
Starting point is 00:11:04 with that and that you're impressed by that. I was thinking like for when I, you know, I watch a football game with like an international friend that has never seen football. Yeah, okay. So you get it. Yeah, you got to watch the game with someone that will explain it to you.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And it's great to learn it through watching the game with someone who can explain it to you. Yes. You can't do it on like, I've tried to do it on chalkboards and shit. And like in Amsterdam, at a fucking, I was at a ping pong hall and these guys like, what are American football?
Starting point is 00:11:33 And I'm over here like, well you got this? No clue. No clue. But if you sit down at a game and get a couple clips, it's the clips. It's running it over and over. It's the commentators, is that what they're called? Yeah, them describing what's going on.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Like you just, and just asking questions and not being scared to look stupid. Like I think I just let down my guard of, like I think in high school I was on the pep squad and we would be like supposed to be watching the game and cheering when things would happen. And I always felt like I was just, I just had to pretend like I knew
Starting point is 00:12:03 and I kind of felt like I just had To keep that up and it's too embarrassing to admit that you don't understand This game that everyone in your life loves and so I think as soon as I just came out and was like I don't get Any of it and I want to and I'm not scared to ask the dumbest questions Like it's really helped me like the other night. I was like What happened and I'm so sorry to your listeners who were like we don't need to hear what you don't understand about the game that we know everything about. But like, it's A, B, C. So like, yeah, the other night they, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:33 there was a guy was running it and he went off the side and I go, oh wait, and I should have known this by now because I know a lot, but you just miss things. And I go, wait, does the ball now start from where he ran off or does it start from where he caught it? Because now he's out of bounds. And I could see my boyfriend being like, you should know this by now.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But it was kind of nice because he just took a deep breath and was like, no, it starts from where he left. And then there was, there's just so many things that come, it's so complicated. It is. It's a very strategic game. That's why it doesn't have, a lot of the international sports,
Starting point is 00:13:06 hockey, soccer, basketball, those are free flowing games that are always moving. In football, it's straight strategy. We stop every play, we line up, that person lines up. If you put us in this situation, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this little stuff over here to get some mirror work to scare ya. It's just like straight combat chess war.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, that's what I liked about it and that's what I didn't understand was going on and I have so much more respect for it because of that strategy and because of how much smarts and cunning it takes. Yeah, we're not just dumb football players. No, you're not.
Starting point is 00:13:41 It's like, it takes, I've seen quarterback on Netflix. I know what it takes to how much they study and they hook the little sensors up to Kirk Cousins with the sensors all over his head doing the neurofeedback. I was like, oh, this this is actually and because I'm a fairly smart person and because it's so hard for me to understand, I understand like people who do understand that I have respect for it. It's complex. But I, yeah, I'm still, I'll ask you a couple of questions throughout.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Like I still don't understand. Like the other night, some guy threw a thing and he didn't catch it, like threw it just to fucking know one. And I asked what happened and my boyfriend was like, it was a broken play. Like he obviously just didn't know the play he was gonna do or they miscommunicated. And I go, isn't that embarrassing?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Like I was like, isn't that like, he should have known it. He didn't study hard enough and he went to the play he was gonna do or they miscommunicated and I go, isn't that embarrassing? Like I was like, isn't that like, he should have known it, he didn't study hard enough and he went to the wrong place and he goes, no, because I mean, they'll talk about it later after the game and let me know what you think about this but he was like, that's the thing about football, you just brush it off and you continue. You can't dwell.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah. What, now what, tell me about that. So sometimes if you're on offense and you call a play and the defense has something that you can't beat, sometimes it's better to just throw the ball away and go to the play the next down and not have a catastrophe happen if you try to run the play in that play.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Got it. So it's like a do-over. All right, defense, tip your cap. You got us on that play. Now let's do it again. Got it. That's what it is. Okay. All right, defense, tip your cap. You got us on that play. Now let's do it again. Got it. Okay. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Okay. So it happens a lot. I mean, you know, if on certain plays and if you see like a, or sometimes it could be like a miscommunication between a receiver and a quarterback, the guy who throws it and the guy who catches it. If a guy runs a wrong route,
Starting point is 00:15:19 the quarterback thinks he's going a different way. He could throw it completely different. But don't you guys have this worked out? Like we're doing this play and you're supposed to go there and how did you not study? There's different, so there's one route that can turn into two routes. Got it, okay, based on what happens.
Starting point is 00:15:32 If that route, if this guy's playing a certain way and this guy, you know, you'll do something else and sometimes you misread it and you're not on the same page. Got it, okay. So there's a whole lot of like, intricacies and like, variables that are thrown into it, which makes it even more complex. But in terms of memorizing plays, like what was your strategy for that?
Starting point is 00:15:53 Like it seems so daunting. And I memorize jokes and set lists and have to keep an order and stuff, but I just don't expect you like athletes to have to like memorize things. It's a very interesting facet of the game to me. Yeah, you know, what I did in my rookie year is I did flashcards.
Starting point is 00:16:11 You know, you have like literally, and it's not just the play, it's the formation, like the name of what you have, where you line up. Right. And then there's a name of what person you are on the field. So there's a personnel group, a formation, and then a play. Okay, so that's why there's multiple there's a name. There's a name of what person you are on the field. So there's a personnel group, a formation and then a play. OK, so that's why there's multiple.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Yeah, so it'll be like Army Gun Trips, right? Right. One thirty four dazzle alert, you know, F combat or something like that. You know what I mean? So there's two plays in one. But like the trips, right. It's telling you where to go. The army is telling you what person you are. And then the dazzle is telling, like the numbers usually for the linemen
Starting point is 00:16:48 and then the dazzles for the receivers because that's a route concept. Okay, this sounds insane to be able to memorize, but. It is, it's tough. No, and if you don't. It's just part of it. It is. You just have to do it.
Starting point is 00:17:00 It's kinda like probably in comedy if, no it's nothing. No, I think it is like comedy. I think you're right because I think sometimes people go, how do you memorize all that up there? And I go, because I started with three minutes. I didn't start with an hour. And you started with high school and it was one or two plays or whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:18 But it also gets to a point where it gets so competitive that like athletically, there are certain guys that don't really digest a playbook or remember a playbook, but they are so good, where you just say, hey buddy, you run a slant, and he goes, all right, and you know, there are those cases, so it might be like the really good comic that didn't prepare. Oh yeah, that just is funny, the way he talks,
Starting point is 00:17:41 and you're like, you're just naturally born this way, you don't have to try and everything you say. Yeah, that just. But that comes and gets them. That's a short lifespan. Absolutely. Especially in the high competitive. Yeah, it's interesting,
Starting point is 00:17:52 just inborn talent versus working hard. You're constantly trying to marry those two or yeah. Without a doubt. And speaking of working hard, how cool is it that you're about to host the Golden Globes? It's crazy. It's so cool. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Thank you. I was waiting for that. Kyler, I thought you were gonna... You know what? Talk about preparing. How do you prepare for that? Well, it's like, I think it's the same. I really feel a kinship with athletes after doing the roast
Starting point is 00:18:20 because I was like, it's a live thing. You get one chance to do it. The stakes are so fucking high. And the roast because I was like, it's a live thing. You get one chance to do it. The stakes are so fucking high. And I, and it's a, the roast was competitive too, which isn't not normal in comedy. Like we're not usually competing with each other, but on a roast, it's like, you're trying to get that MVP. Even though we don't really know.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I'm gonna say you got MVP right now. I didn't even know it was a thing to get, but I guess I did get it and it felt amazing. I'm not, I never win anything. So I felt, it felt good in that sense, but getting the Globes, it's like, it's four months down the road for me. I see it.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I know that December is going to wreck me in terms of preparation, but I know what I have to do to get there that day and be completely calm about it and be like, I've got this because the work will come beforehand. Now, if it was like an audition I have on Friday that I just get, I'm gonna be scared up until the moment I do it, because there's no amount of preparation
Starting point is 00:19:11 that's gonna make me feel good in two days to prepare for that. But for four months, I'm like, oh, I've got this in the bag. But it is live, it is in front of an audience that can be a little stuffy, and has in the past not been the greatest audience for a comedian to go out there, but I think based on being able to watch past Golden Globes and see what the audience
Starting point is 00:19:32 is like and see how much they're willing to make fun of themselves and how much you can roast and how many roasts I've done, there's such a delicate balance of how much you can make fun of people and still get away with it and toe that line. I feel like we, I don't know, I've watched roasts for as long as they've been around.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And they kind of chilled for a while since this whole 22 and 20 and how the world has kind of changed with the woke. You're all too sensitive, yeah. And I felt like it kind of, the roasts we were on, there was like no holding anyone back. That was wild.
Starting point is 00:20:09 You know what I mean? Everyone was hitting every joke and it was kinda, it was like comedy was almost coming back. I felt that too and I don't know that like, if we would have submitted that script of what it ended up being to Netflix prior, they would have been like, no, we're not letting you do this.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Like, I'm sure Netflix perused what was going to be said, but they weren't really, I can't imagine anyone green lighting what was said that night. And even sitting there that night, I was thinking, oh man, tomorrow it's gonna be like, they went too hard. This was, you know, did they cross the line? Is this the end of roasts?
Starting point is 00:20:46 Like, cause it was so harsh, but everyone seemed to just be like, so excited about it that I'd say. It was not, there was not one headline of like, it's too far. Like not even one. And it was too far. It was offensive to me at times.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah, it was pretty, it was pretty. It was great though. But it was great for like, for us, like the athletes, when the civilians on the stage. When we went up there and when Kevin let it off, it was good to see Kevin, like that was a teammate move. Like he showed like where the bar was set when he came out. Oh my God, such a teammate. And so it relieved me, he said, oh, he said that.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I'm like, all right, I'm good, I'm good. What was the line he said that made you, or like? There was the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu stuff. He said, oh, he said that. I'm like, all right, I'm good. I'm good. What was the line he said that made you? There's Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu stuff. He was bringing it right away. Yes, you're right. He was showing you where the threshold was, where we're willing to go. Absolutely, I felt that way too.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah. He was the best man. And just commenting after everyone's set and showing credit where it's due. He was really a team player that night. On a night where it is competitive and comedians aren't usually that generous with each other of like giving each other accolades
Starting point is 00:21:49 and it was just, it just, it felt, but the roast is weird because you didn't know what other people were gonna say, what other jokes people were doing. None of us had any idea what the other people were doing so you're writing stuff being like, can I get away with, am I gonna be the only one who addresses this thing? And then when I heard you were doing an Aaron Hernandez joke, writing something like, can I get away with it? Am I gonna be the only one who addresses this thing? And then when I heard you were doing
Starting point is 00:22:07 an Aaron Hernandez joke, I was like, I guess it's on the table. That opened up a world to me. No. It's comedy. Of course it was jokes. And I think anything can be, jokes can be made about literally any topic.
Starting point is 00:22:23 It's not like you're're making fun of the victim. There's a certain way that it shouldn't be done and that's not the way it was done that night. It was really refreshing, but there was just like, I heard just like a hint that, or someone said, yeah, you know, Julien is a Aaron Hernandez joke. And I had been like, I can't do it because no one's gonna go there.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And then it just was like, yes, hell yes. You killed so hard, man. Like I'm, we, a comedian should kill. Like I should have done as well as I did, but like there's no precedent for you doing that well or Gronk doing that well. It really was like, you all should have done as well as Randy did.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Drew good, I like Drew. He likes you too, I think. Oh, and Drew. Drew loved Nicky, bro. I'm sorry, I wanna include Drew in that too. Drew was amazing. He was the first one to go out, so that's big balls. He killed, and him just sipping that wine
Starting point is 00:23:16 being so calm and cool. I mean, it makes sense why you guys kill, because you are used to these high pressure situations. And maybe you would say that wouldn't have prepared you at all for that, but I think it has to. There's no way, like how did all three of you kill like that? It just doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:23:33 You know, I can speak for myself, and I wanna ask you about your preparation process after, but for me, we saw each other at the store. And Jeff was awesome to let me do the back 10, 12 minutes of his set at the Comedy Store, which. Good for you doing that. I was so terrified. Of course. I was shaking telling my jokes like this.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I was and I could barely talk. Thank God there was like 15 frat dudes from Nebraska that knew who I was. I loved football. So I felt comfortable. But good for you for doing that, because that's not easy to do, and no one wants to go run their set around town. But when I heard, like, I go, where's Tom running his set? And they're like, he's just practicing it on his plane and stuff,
Starting point is 00:24:13 because obviously he can't go out to clubs, it makes sense. Practice on your plane is just so- I would be so scared to go do it for the first time without saying, because I went around a lot to clubs to run it, so good for you even going out the, how many minutes did you go out and run it? Just once. Just once?
Starting point is 00:24:29 That one rep was everything for me, because then once we got to the roast, the only people that we really could see were people we knew. Yeah. You know, and yeah, you see Kim Kardashian, but like, Oh yeah. Yeah, whatever. But like, I saw like coaches, I saw friends.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So like that made it more comfortable for me. I wasn't looking past that. Okay. I, you, yeah, you destroyed it. It was fun. But then I think we all entered this part where like we would get on stage, we'd be nervous. And then the first laugh you get, you're calm.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah. Like you like, and then you guys kind of like would lock into it and get excited about, oh my God, they don't even know what's coming up. Because I could see you guys, you and Gronk specifically, having jokes land and then getting this kind of like, oh yes, I got it, and then hitting the stride.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Because isn't it a great feeling to make people laugh and kill? I mean, I have so much respect for, you know, comics and the comedy life. I mean, I've gotten to know it a little through Sam Moreau because we started this show and Sam was one of my co-hosts. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. I love Sam so much.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And so I would go hang out with him at the cellar and see all the other guys and kind of get a little in of how comics really are. Yeah. And you know, like. What's your take, well, I think you guys are brilliant people. Like to be able to like like when you how you're impressed with play call remembering, yeah, like to be able to formulate a set and say a joke in the first five minutes and it's an hour long set.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Tell a bunch of stuff like the story, the meat, this, this, and then bring it back to someone. Somewhere, like that's talent. I can't write, I'm not a good English person. So like that. But you would be able to, but you wrote some good English person. Football, fun. It's you, did you not have a moment during your set
Starting point is 00:26:22 where you were like, and I wrote that one, was that you? That was Rob. That was Rob. I wrote a couple, we wrote a couple. You wrote a couple of your jokes though you were like, and I wrote that one, was that you? That was Rob. I wrote a couple. You wrote a couple of your jokes though, right? Yeah, we wrote a couple. Which ones did you write? We wrote the Hernandez joke, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:26:33 They came with something in that premise and then we tweaked it. Okay. So this is my writing room right here. You tighten the noose. Yeah. The brain trust. You tapped Sam in a little bit too. We tapped in Sam.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Sam was in there with us in the writers room. Jeff helped us out, he was awesome. It is a team, I provided a team as well too. You can't do it alone. I'm not like her at this thing, so I had people help me. No, I had a team too, everyone does. I would basically, so how we did our jokes was,
Starting point is 00:27:00 I would tell a bunch of stories to our room of things that I thought were funny. Yes. Like how it was in the locker room or the shower thing or you know, taking a piss next to Gronk and like, cause it was comedy every day when you would go, it would, when Gronk was around. I'd take a piss every day.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Gronk would look over the stall and look at my dick and say like, man, you're looking good today. Like every day. But naked. Like, so like I would tell these stories and then we would formulate a joke. They would formulate a joke. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:32 It was so fun. Were you nervous? Yeah, I was very nervous. Yeah. I was like. Did it feel like Super Bowl nervous? My first Super Bowl was probably similar cause it's unknown, but you know, football is the same
Starting point is 00:27:45 and I'm comfortable with the game. And I was in the mindset, you know, you do the same thing that got you there, you'll be all right. So you're nervous for a Super Bowl, but this is something that's like completely outside the comfort box. Like, I don't know, like yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Did you say yes right away when they asked you or were you like, let me think about this? I said no. You did. Yeah, I was like, no shot. And then what made you do it? The hundred, I think a couple hundred grand or something. Okay, I know, didn't hurt.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I was like, all right, maybe I'll do it. Yeah, yeah. But I was embarrassed, I was scared. Yeah. You know, like that's very, you know. The relief when it was over, how great was that? It was relief, but then it was also like, I enjoyed it. Oh, the relief when it was over. How great was that? It was relief, but then it was also like I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah, it was really, really fun. And then, you know, we just did a live show in Boston. Oh yeah, I saw that at the Wilbur. At the Wilbur. Yeah. Have you performed there? I've been there a lot. What a great room.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Big room. Good job. It was so fun. And like, I was less nervous for that because of the roast, but I was still nervous for that. But I still had like, I had a rep at being in front of people. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And even though it was completely different. I forget that you don't like talk in front of people often. But I'm, it's a new world for me because this is like- But you're learning. It's my third year out of the league. And so like- Is this what you thought you would do out of the league? No.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And did you even, did you have a plan or were you just kind of out of it and being like, what are we, like? I thought I was just gonna go take a horse down a dusty road with millions of dollars and just fucking. What happened? I had a kid and you gotta work and. Yeah, and you get. It's not too late.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It never ends. It never ends. And like my mind's like, now that like football is over, my mind is needed something else. Yeah, because you have to be obsessed with football your whole life. Yeah, but also like. What's that like, dude?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Like, your whole life is something and then you just like stop. I can't even, like I'm so grateful I do something that I can do until I die. Yeah, you know. But in some ways I'm not, I wanna stop. I'd like my body to make me stop. There's good things about it too.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Sometimes you like, because of my body making me stop, you have a natural instinct that kicks in. We're like, what's next? And then you think about all the other interests you had other than football. And I've got to explore those because of football and actually have a shot. So I have so explore those because of football and actually have a shot. So I have so much gratitude because of football
Starting point is 00:30:09 that I get to do this stuff because I probably wouldn't have been sitting here talking to you if it wasn't for the game. So it just, I'm so thankful that I had my career, I'm so thankful that everything went the way. Do you have to say that? No, you don't. No, you're right, I'm just thankful that I had my career. I'm so thankful that everything went the way. Do you have to say that? No, you don't. No, you're right.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I'm just giving you shit. But I like that gratitude because you could be better about it. Like my situation, I'm not like one of the, I'm not gronk. Look at me, I'm a five foot 10 squinty eye little fuck boy, like you said. Like I had to work to get my shit.
Starting point is 00:30:41 We've all seen the ESPN magazine photo shoot. You know what you're doing. You know what I mean though. We've all peered over the stall and been like things look good. Okay. You obviously have charisma and good looks. Like you had something to spin this into,
Starting point is 00:30:59 but like it is, what was the first year out? Like, were you just like, I guess I'll start, I mean, podcasting is the natural thing to go do. Why not? I started doing Inside the NFL live TV. Oh, okay, yeah. And then, or live to tape, which was cool. And then we started the podcast.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Yeah. And you know, and then you had to say yes to other things that you've said no to for so long, like your family. Yes, I know. You've always had an excuse. Yeah, and so you have some making up to do. So like being a dad. Oh yeah, oh God.
Starting point is 00:31:34 You know, one of those things. Being a bad mom is as great as, easy easy as being a great dad or something like that. Yes, yes, you've seen it. No, that's okay, that's lovely. What about your body though? Like, do you work out? I mean, you definitely work out,
Starting point is 00:31:49 but aren't you just like, do I still have to do that? Like, isn't it all wrapped up in what used to be your career? I did that for a while. Like, I'm not doing that. But then my body started feeling like shit. Yeah. And I also, I realized that when I work out,
Starting point is 00:32:04 it makes me happy. It like releases an endorphin that like, yeah, it sucks during it and I fucking hate it. But like afterwards, the sense of accomplishment, the sense of making yourself better, the sense of taking time to improve you in your mental state that naturally is involved with it, it's therapeutic. Yes, I like every day doing,
Starting point is 00:32:30 I like to do a workout that destroys me because I like every day being like, I just wanna quit, I hate this, and then persevering past that point gives you just such a, it makes me feel like I've done something in a day where maybe I haven't done anything. But I love to get to the point of wanting to die. But also like, where you're like, I think I'm gonna die
Starting point is 00:32:53 and then you get past it, but like also with, like you used to have these ultra bursts of adrenaline and dopamine playing the game of, and fear and nervousness and then suddenly it's like not that, so you gotta go say yes to Roast. You gotta say yes to live shows. Like isn't, it's getting that up for you again. That's where I'm getting it.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Cause we're addicted to that feeling, even though it's like uncomfortable. That's exactly right. That is exactly right. Like all this shit, like I just did an audition for something and like it was my first audition and I'm having to run like a sex scene pretty much with the dude over Zoom.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Oh my God. And it was like, this is so uncomfortable. Like what are we, but then I was like afterwards, like, oh yeah, that's, I got a rep. I get it now. Like that's, I was so uncomfortable for this. You got a rep, yes. And now like.
Starting point is 00:33:39 The next time it won't be so difficult. It won't be so terrible. To fuck a guy over Zoom. Yeah, literally. I still can't believe you didn't get it. I don't know if I didn't get it. Oh, you didn't know? Oh, you don't know yet?
Starting point is 00:33:49 No, I definitely didn't get it. You'll know when the show airs and it's not you. That's how they tell you. Yeah, but I didn't get it. Fingers still crossed, baby. I'm sure it was great. There's always those moments where you're like, how did he not get that?
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yeah, I'm sure you did great. Good job. No, so. But yeah, it feels good to feel scared. Like, sometimes I get complacent about performing where I don't get nervous anymore, and that used to be a part of it for me, is like, what's gonna happen out there? And sometimes I'll just like,
Starting point is 00:34:13 smoke a little too much weed or something right before I go on stage, because I wanna be like, what's gonna happen? Like, I wanna like, make myself feel scared again. And I think that sometimes, like, weed is my one drug that I come kind of like, I gave up alcohol 12 years ago, but weed is the one that I come in and out of.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And I think I always grab it when I literally want anxiety in my life, where I'm not getting enough because I'm getting too used to this thing that used to give it to me, because I love those spikes. And I'm not getting them from stand up, but it doesn't like performing in front of a crowd doesn't do it.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Unless there's like someone famous there, someone like, I don't know, like sometimes, or someone who's there to see me and I'm auditioning for something, then I don't need that. But sometimes I will, I will just, like last night I had a really big slit up my skirt. I'm like, try to make them laugh
Starting point is 00:35:03 with like your pussy hanging out. Like, see if like, like, it wasn't hanging out, but it was so distracting. Like it was all the way up this slit. I would have never worn something so slutty on stage, but I just bought a skirt that was too short. And I was like, I have nothing else to wear. And I'm like, okay, this is a hurdle
Starting point is 00:35:19 I will have to overcome on stage. Take me seriously, try to listen to me while you can see my right labia. And they did, I was able to get laughs. So I just have these little things that I put in place to scare me again. Now when you go do something like the roast or the Golden Globes and you're in full like comic mode,
Starting point is 00:35:39 like you're touring, cause you're on a tour right now, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm always touring forever. There's no like, comedians have, it looks like we have like tours because my tour now is called Alive and Unwell. I just named it that for the stretch of dates. Like it's, it'll be named something different the next time,
Starting point is 00:35:56 but there's no like, I'm gonna book these dates and that's the tour and when it's over, I'm gonna go on vacation. I never stopped touring. If I have a weekend off, it's, I'm not on vacation. I went to go see Taylor Swift on Aira's tour and I'm back at it the next weekend. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You haven't even seen my shirt. Let's go, baby. I saw your shirt, I love it so much. I was, I'm sorry, if we talk about Taylor Swift, we won't stop. All right. So I'm waiting. All right, all right.
Starting point is 00:36:18 But you were gonna ask me about being on tour, comic mode, getting to. Yeah, how do you go from, like, how do you go from, like, do you just change your hat? Like, do you use a lot of your, what you use in your standup in when you're going and doing a show or at the roast or how do you, what's your mindset going into different things?
Starting point is 00:36:38 I mean, for the roast, it was like, this is the most important performance of my life. This could change everything. So you took it that way. Oh yeah, cause I've done them before for Comedy Central when they weren't live on Netflix. And even those were like the important performance of my life. This could change everything. So you took it that way. Oh yeah, because I've done them before for Comedy Central when they weren't live on Netflix. And even those were like the biggest moments of my career that really did change everything. I think it is the biggest moment,
Starting point is 00:36:52 aside from the Golden Globes actually, which I wouldn't have said until I got it. And then I was like, oh wait, I think this is the biggest moment a comedian can have. Hosting the Oscars, Golden Globes, Emmys, and then I think a roast set is the biggest debut or like a performance of a comedian's life. I mean, my special did well.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I think four or five million people watched that. How many people watched the roast? Like 20 million? Like it's like, it doesn't compare. I was in Brazil and some dude comes up to me and I was like, oh, this guy sees me, he's like, comedian on roast? I'm like, no, football player. Yeah, no, not anymore.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah, I know. You're comedian on roast. It's true, I just know the magnitude of it. I didn't understand how big this one would be, how little there would be in the news that week that we were the only things in the news that week. Like honestly, it's just kind of luck. Timed up.
Starting point is 00:37:49 The clips of us were going crazy because there was nothing really else going on that week. It was a Sunday night, it felt like a Super Bowl. Everyone in America was kind of watching this thing live and it lasted for about a week of people talking about it. Like every day, I mean, my family being like, I hear someone in line behind me at Starbucks talking about you.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Like that's never happened to me in my career. So it was like, it was that big. So I fucking got together a team and was like, let's write the best jokes ever made. And then let me just run the set every single night. Let's have meetings in between sets to determine which jokes stay, which words we tweak. Should I say, he puts the tard in retarded,
Starting point is 00:38:28 or should I say, puts the tard in retard? Which one's funnier? Let's have an hour long discussion about which one's funnier. Should I say I entered a lottery to suck Tom Brady's dick, or a raffle? Which word is funnier? That kind of minute detail of like, let's take a vote.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Raffle or lottery to suck Tom Brady's dick? It was, because it does come down to like that word could change everything. And so- Jules got drafted to suck Tom's dick. Oh, roast mode, Kyler, ooh. I liked it, I liked it. But I, and then the same with Golden Globes,
Starting point is 00:38:58 like that's why I know I'm gonna be fine on the Golden Globes is because I did this roast and I know the exact training process I need to kill it. It's in place. So did you get the Golden Globes because of the roast, do you think? 100%, without question. What other opportunities do you get, you think?
Starting point is 00:39:14 I mean, just famous people wanting to be friends with me. Honestly, I mean, once you are in the spotlight, famous people suddenly are like, oh, I've always loved you, and they've never seen anything you've done except the roast. Which one, who? I don't wanna say names, because I really,
Starting point is 00:39:30 I just wanna be friends with these people who only like me for my fame. What about the one person who may be a little too famous that probably won't be anything, it may have just been a text. There's gotta be one that, you know, there's probably not gonna go down the friend friend friend road.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Who, can I, I mean, JWoww mean J Woww. No, she did write me. I mean at this point I really have expunged it from my memory, but it was like a lot of blue check marks sliding in and following and saying I'm a fan. And it's turned into some actual, there's a thing coming out soon. Someone reached, one of the most famous people in the world reached out to me to have me do something with them that I would have never thought in a million years I would ever be in the same room as this person and now I'm like, I get to know them because they saw me on the roast and liked it
Starting point is 00:40:23 and reached out. So stuff like that is happening. I mean, my touring has, like I don't have to really promote shows anymore. People just show up because they know who I am. Like, and that's, I'm not bragging. This is just, this is stuff that is in my 20 year career. I've had to like constantly be like,
Starting point is 00:40:38 Sacramento, I'm coming to town this week. Bring a friend. Tag your friend who lives in Sacramento. Like have to make up a song about Sacramento. You got some good saltwater taffy in Sacramento. Okay, I would have had to make some joke about and bought a bunch of it and shoved it in my mouth. I go Sacramento and made some real.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And now I don't have to do that stuff as much. And, but with that comes more pressure of like, you know, that set was so tight and so perfect. And my standup is not that. My standup's looser, my standup's personal, my standup's storytelling, it's not roast jokes. So it does leave an expectation of, there was a big fear at first of like,
Starting point is 00:41:16 oh, people are gonna come see me on tour wanting to see, like have me roast their city, but they're gonna hear me talk about how my knee skin looks like, you know, I look at my knee skin and they look like dead presidents faces or something like, like talk about aging, like my aging body or like I'm talking about my depression and like and that's gonna confuse them and they're gonna be mad and they're gonna want their money back. Like I had all these like these fears of like yeah now I have to perform at that level every
Starting point is 00:41:44 time and it's just not possible because of the work that went into just that seven minute set. Like I can't do that for everything I do. But now it's been a couple months out and I'm like, I've reset and been like, it's okay that you don't have to always deliver on that level. No, like people, I've saw a little bit of you before. People are attracted to how you deliver your joke
Starting point is 00:42:06 and like you could say anything, but you're very funny. So I think you should taper your, to just getting yourself better and keeping it and people are always gonna come. Cause I think you're right. I just have to not work from a place of what do people want from me? And I just have to really tap into like,
Starting point is 00:42:24 what do, what's like the most authentic version of myself? I think that luckily, authenticity is really a commodity right now, and it hasn't always been, it almost was never a commodity in this business. It was always about like being fake and acting like you're perfect, which I always wanted to be.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It was one of the reasons I wanted to be in Hollywood is like, they seem perfect and I'm not and I want people to think I'm perfect. And then you get in and the more that I am just myself, the more good things happen to me. And thank God because it's something that I found really easy to do is to be myself. Now, did being yourself get you invited
Starting point is 00:42:59 into the chief's text chain, like the celebrity text chain, there's like John Hamm and. No, what the fuck? This is the first I'm hearing of it. Oh. Wait, it's John Hamm, it's Rob Riggle. Riggle. It's Eric Stone Street.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Brad Pitt. Heidi Gardner. Heidi, Heidi Gardner's in it? No, no, no, Heidi, yeah, Heidi Gardner from SNL, yeah. Yeah, Heidi Gardner. She deserves to be in it, she's been a long time chief fan. She's OG. I went to KU, University of Kansas. Rock Chalk, maybe.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I started Rock Chalk and then I started doing comedy. My freshman year of college, I went to CU Boulder. But Paul Rudd, yeah. Fuck, I gotta get in this. Actually, it's too much pressure. I don't, honestly. Jason Sudeikis. I don't want this pressure of texting celebrities. It's too much, cause you feel like you gotta get right back to them. And if you say the wrong thing. I don't want this pressure of texting celebrities.
Starting point is 00:43:46 It's too much, because you feel like you got to get right back to them. And if you say the wrong thing. It's too- He's playing cool. It's too easier said. I don't know how to, do you know how to do it? Don't you get anxiety? Oh, the other day Bon Jovi was giving you shit
Starting point is 00:43:58 for the number thing. Weren't you a little anxious texting with Bon Jovi? No, he- You blocked him. I was anxious because he said I big leagueed him. Right, but like isn't that, you obviously didn't. Nah. Yeah, well now I don't know, so sure.
Starting point is 00:44:15 No, not at all. But like, I'm worried about coming across the wrong way sometimes, and it's just like the other day, a really famous person FaceTimed me to thank me for doing the thing that I was just talking about. Let me just tell you who it is like that. Oh wow. Okay, so that person FaceTimed me
Starting point is 00:44:33 after we got done with this thing to be like, hey, I just wanna say good job. FaceTime, I'm at a restaurant and I just clicked ignore. Because I was like, I can't handle, I can't fucking handle this. And this person is not something you can pick up in a public space to be like, hi. So I was doing them a favor, but I also was like,
Starting point is 00:44:50 I don't even wanna call them. I can't handle having this person on my phone. And I literally had to take 20 minutes to be like, what should I write back? And I was at lunch with my friend, it ruined our lunch. Cause I was like, I can't have this going on in my life. Like- What I do?
Starting point is 00:45:04 What? Cause I have like way famous friends that like I have no business. I mean, you're way famous. Yeah, no, not like that. But I just I set the expectation for my text behavior at a real low standard. OK. And so like you just don't text back. And then and then and then and then the one day like, oh, then you drop a reminder. Oh, hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:45:27 Sorry, I got like a few days late. So then they- So you'll not return famous people's texts too? Not like that, but like if I'm in the middle of something, like, and then I'm a football player, I got hit, so I'll forget about it. Oh, that's good, you have that excuse. Yeah, sorry.
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Starting point is 00:49:00 I wonder if Nikki Glaser talks like this at like Thanksgiving with her family. Yes, yes. Like I wonder if Nikki Glaser talks like this at like Thanksgiving with her family. Yes, I always have. I wanna see you at a holiday dinner. Like how is it? I've curbed it. Like it was always that way in my childhood
Starting point is 00:49:16 of not being so much as funny as just saying. Or in class as a kid. Well, I was totally shy as a kid. I just was terrified of being made fun of or I really thought I was ugly, and I just didn't want boys to make fun of me. So I was really shy in school and never spoke at all. But in terms of like around my family,
Starting point is 00:49:32 or around friends and friends' family, I just never had any filter. And I quickly learned like, you can't say this, like people just look at me like, why would you say that? So there was a lot of that going on. And you learn, okay, there's something lot of that going on and you learn, okay, there's something wrong with me that I ask these questions and that I have these curiosities.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And I wasn't trying to be funny. I was really curious how many people my dad slept with before he met my mom. Like when I was 11, I found out that you can like sleep with people before you marry someone. And I was like, I'm just curious, dad, how many women have you slept with before mom? And I asked it in a van ride on the way to Michigan
Starting point is 00:50:06 with like our whole family in this van. And I asked it as like, we're pulling out of the driveway. And I'll never forget, cause my dad said nothing. He didn't say anything the rest of the drive home. So maybe he was calculating in his head, but he, it was just dead silence. So I just, that feedback, and my family is not one to just be like, we're not gonna talk.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Like it just, I could tell like I had offended everyone to their core and it was like really shameful. So I think I grew up feeling the things I was curious about the things I wanted to talk about sex and just gross stuff was like shameful. And like, you're like not a normal girl. Like you're talking kind of like an autistic boy. You know, like there's something wrong with you.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And so I just stopped until I did comedy. And then I was like, oh, I could get paid for talking like this. Do we have an autistic family member now? Did you get the results? No, no, yeah, that was the joke of my special. No, not yet, but I was, I might have a touch of it, which is fine, I wish I did,
Starting point is 00:51:09 because I think it's an amazing thing, but I, yeah. You ever think you're gonna find out how many? How many what? People that my dad slept with? I think it's innumerable. I mean, I think that it was, he was a hot guy in the 60s and 70s. And he was like the cool kid on campus. He's a musician.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Like there's no telling how many brothers and sisters I have out there. Yeah, no, it's the man I love when he pops up on social. Oh, thank you so much. He's so cool. He is he's really I have such a supportive family, which is is is really rare for a female comic. And like for for me, knowing I wanted to do this since I was in high school which is really rare for a female comic. And for me, knowing I wanted to do this since I was in high school, or in college,
Starting point is 00:51:50 actually is when I found standup, but them always supporting me, I really lucked out of them not being like, you can't do this, because it wasn't going well for a while. I mean, that's a great support system to have someone always, I mean, I had a great support system.
Starting point is 00:52:04 You did. I did. Yeah. When you're talking about the van story popped up, there's a story. I was like 13, my brother was 20, my sister was 11, and my brother was in the front seat and we're going to Half Moon Bay for like a lunch.
Starting point is 00:52:26 My mom's in here, my sister's in the way back of the suburban and I'm fucking with my brother. Like he's in the front seat, so I'm like messing with his head. He goes, Julie, stop fucking touching me. And I keep on doing it and he swears and my mom goes, Jason, watch your mouth. He goes, mom, you know what a 13 year old boy does
Starting point is 00:52:45 with his hands all day? Especially with a computer. From left field, my little sister who's 11 years old from the back seat. Are you guys talking about jacking off? Oh my God. I'm sitting here as a 13 year old boy and my dad sitting there like laughing.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I'm like about to cry. Oh, I'm sure. There's nothing more humiliating to a 13 year old boy than being called out for masturbating. laughing, I'm like about to cry. This is- Oh, I'm sure. There's nothing more humiliating to a 13 year old boy than being called out for masturbating. When your mom and your sister, little sister, mom, and so we go to this lunch and I'm so sad, I'm like embarrassed as fuck.
Starting point is 00:53:20 We get to this lunch and I go, may I be excused to go to the bathroom, please? Oh no. No. And my mom goes, where are you going to jack off? No. I love her. Angie.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Mom, no. I can see you just stomping off. I was like, oh, I just put my head down. Because you had probably just started jacking off. Yeah. It is your little secret that you think no one else knows about. It is your little shameful thing that you do.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I had an older brother though, so you know what I mean? You kind of knew a lot about stuff like that. Okay, that's good. That does help a lot. Yeah, seven years older too. Oh, then yeah. You, he taught you the ropes. We shared a room.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I remember he had girlfriends and stuff. And you're 38 now, so 13, you were getting the internet. Oh yeah, AOL, Dial Up. I mean, I think we may have had 6,000 viruses from all the porn I downloaded from BearShare. Yes, oh my God. Maybe 6,000. Still on BearShare, Napster.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I mean, we were in the early stage. Wait, you guys were downloading porn? Like, I didn't get into that, downloading porn? Like on LimeWire and Napster? We were downloading music. I didn't know you could download porn. Why would you do that if you could just play it on a website?
Starting point is 00:54:30 No, you couldn't. You couldn't yet. Oh, you couldn't. It was just pictures? No, you could. You didn't think it wasn't fast enough. That's so true. Okay, I just remember tits going like,
Starting point is 00:54:39 brr, brr, brr, you know, like that. But I guess I never looked at video. Wow, okay. The Pam Anderson sex tape's probably still downloading on my pants. Yeah, it took I guess I never looked at video. Wow, okay, that makes sense. The Pam Anderson's sex tape's probably still downloading on my page. Yeah, it took like five days to download a video. 77% right now. Oh man, that's so, what a great family you have.
Starting point is 00:54:55 That sounds really fun. I didn't know how to masturbate until, like I didn't know anyone masturbated until, like none of my girlfriends, all my girlfriends were doing it. We were best friends. We talked about everything. We literally, sisters shared everything. They were all masturbating and no one ever told me about it.
Starting point is 00:55:11 All someone had to do was like, listen, there's this thing that you can do and it feels great. It never occurred to me to do it. And then I probably start, I tried in college because by then I had heard about it and I'm like, this doesn't, it's like learning a new language.
Starting point is 00:55:24 You gotta start young. you gotta start young. You gotta start young. Otherwise it's just. You're like a sponge. It is, it would've been nice. When you're young, you're like a sponge. Yes, yes. You learn more, quicker.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I mean, like, I got a seven-year-old. Say anything around her. Oh my God, yes. There. She's a girl? Little girl. Seven, oh, that's fun. That's so cute, that's a good, is that a good age?
Starting point is 00:55:42 It's a great age. What's the cutest thing she's done or said recently? I love hearing this. And I'm sorry if you can't remember, cause I know there's a lot. No. It doesn't mean you're a bad person. Parents are always just like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:54 She, so I let her, in the morning, I'll let her like, when we drive to school, it's like a 25 minute ride, and we'll listen to like Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, and I'll listen to Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, and I'll start making up a song. Like, Lily's going to school. Da da da da.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And then she'll, I'll let her do it, and she'll be like, daddy is a butt sniffer. Like, I let her swear if she can rhyme it, cause I'm teaching her rhyming, you know what I mean? Yeah, no. So like, she did that this morning. That really makes me happy, because I think that like,
Starting point is 00:56:26 girls need to, like I think little girls don't get to make butt sniffer jokes and fart jokes and poop jokes. Like I really do feel like that's why people say women aren't funny or whatever because when you're young, what's funny to you is butts and farts and poop and boys can kind of make those jokes and it's not disgust like it's it's naughty but it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not
Starting point is 00:56:47 it's not it's not disgusting. It's expected from a boy. You're not like why would you say that but little girls making fart or poop jokes I mean back when I did it it was just like no one's ever gonna want to date you you are disgusting girl and it's like it's different and so when you're told as a girl you can can't be, when your joke arsenal is stolen from you as a child, you can't joke about these things, you just are like, I guess I'm not supposed to be funny because it's not ladylike. And so it's not that women aren't funny.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It's like women aren't allowed to be funny early on. It gets taken from us. It's changed, it's changing. So keep, I love that your daughter's singing about this shit. Yeah, it's definitely, I mean, when we're, what's that new song? By Billie Eilish, Lunch.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Oh yeah. She knows every fucking word of that song. So I think things- Isn't it about eating pussy? Yes, it's about eating her friends like best pussy. Yeah. But she doesn't know, because your daughter's just full of metaphor.
Starting point is 00:57:40 There'll be a swear word and I hear it and I'll look back and she's like, I didn't say it, I didn't say it. That's so cute. It's like us with the n-word when we rap Let's go back into time And segue to a segment where we go around where the game took place and we talk about pop culture I think you got dip in my lip. On this day, January 21st, 2024, the number one movie was Mean Girls. That was a reboot, right?
Starting point is 00:58:13 The reboot, yeah, the music. Reboot. I missed it. I missed it too. I did too. But I was wrong too because anything Tina Fey does is incredible. She's gas, she's goaded. She's funny.
Starting point is 00:58:22 She's amazing. She's one of the greatest of all time. What what else was she what else is she in 30 Rock? I've been watching 30 Rock lately. Mean Girls, SNL, Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin She just has great quotes all the time. She was like she's I forget I should memorize this cuz I quote it all the time But it's something about how a woman is called crazy when she has an opinion and no one wants to fuck her. Like something about, just a good commentary on like women getting older.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Like if you aren't fuckable anymore, like no one wants to hear anything you have to say and we'll call you crazy. And I- That's a Mark Twain level quote. That's it. I butchered it, but it's something like that that really sums up.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Baby mama too, baby mama was fine. Baby mama. Girls 5ever is actually was fine. Baby mama. Girls 5ever is actually underrated. Oh yeah, absolutely. Anything she touches is gonna be amazing. But 30 Rock, one of the best shows of all time, you can put it on at any time.
Starting point is 00:59:13 If you sneeze, you'll miss a joke. That's one of the ones, if I'm feeling kind of dumb and like, oh, my brain isn't working, I'm not funny anymore, I'll just watch a ton of 30 Rock or Veep, and just binging those shows literally makes you funnier. If you're out there being like, how do I become funny? Watch 30 Rock or Veep because the rapid fire machine gun style of jokes and that, it just like,
Starting point is 00:59:37 you can't help but kind of absorb it. Yeah, yeah. That's a good pro tip. My mom watches 30 Rock. Chini Faye's been around for, she's been around for a while, too. She's amazing. So shout out her.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Shout out her. Number one song, Love It On Me by Jack Harlow. Which one is that, Jack? I'm vanilla, baby. I choke you, but I ain't no killer, baby. You remember that one? I've never heard a sing. I mean, I know I have heard a single song of his,
Starting point is 01:00:00 but I've never consciously listened to one. And I'm sure I'd love it, though. I hear he's great. It's catchy. I don't like no way. Remember I'm sure I'd love it though. I hear he's great. It's catchy. I don't like no, remember that one? Uh uh, no way out. I can't believe.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Where was I? January 21st. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no I missed that too. Something was going on for me this week. I just didn't partake in that for some reason. I mean, I watched all the clips. I watched the clips and I heard people like tell me what happened in it. And yeah, I hear it was hilarious, but I don't know anything else about it. You're gonna meet Kathleen?
Starting point is 01:00:37 You know what, I was gonna maybe do a joke about Kevin Hart that was referenced from that. I did. Of saying like he won't wear a dress or something. I'm not gonna wear a dress. What was that? I called. Oh yeah, that was referenced from that. I did. Of saying like, he won't wear a dress or something. I'm not gonna wear a dress. What was that? I called. Oh yeah, that was said in the interview.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Yeah. I called Burt Kreischer's liver is so black, it just did three hours on the Shannon Sharpe podcast. Yes, that was so good. That was so good. Jeff Ross, like at the Comedy Store was like, you know what's even funnier and even more black is if you said four hours.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And I think it was four hours you did it and from three hours it actually was funnier. See, you're right, like three and four, there's a difference of a laughter you could get. That's what I like about comedy, is those little intricacies, that's so interesting. Yeah, have you ever met Cat Williams? No, no, he's an enigma.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I feel like he's the prince of comedy. He definitely is the prince of comedy. Right? I love Cat. I'm scared to meet him. Like he might just like, just the way he'll look at me or look through me or not look at me. Oh, I don't think I could handle it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yeah. I mean, he fought a 12 year old lost and then came back and is still killing it. That takes some, that takes some. He fought a 12 year old. Yes bro, he was on Worldstar like 10 years ago. Oh my God. He got dumped out like a 10 year old, 12 year old kid.
Starting point is 01:01:46 What was that one stand up he did in like mid 2000s? Oh the one where he's got the green on? The green, yeah that was preference all the time. That thing, he was funny as fuck and he sweats the whole time. Yeah, no. He's a tall guy. Michael Jackson bit, that's a great one.
Starting point is 01:02:02 In the sports world, the Super Bowl champions were the Kansas City Chiefs. Shout out. Shout out. Lamar Jackson was the MVP National Champions, was Michigan Heisman Trophy winner, now Commander's quarterback, Jaden Daniels. You know anything about the new rookies?
Starting point is 01:02:19 I know that a rookie did really well the other night in the Chiefs game. Is that your worthy? Worthy. Yeah, worthy. Great name. That's football fan right game. Is that your worthy? Worthy. Yeah, worthy. Great name. That's football fan right there. Yeah, yeah, I'm learning.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I'm paying attention. Do you know who Victor Wimbyama is? I don't know. He's like the tall, I can't say his name, but he's a Frenchman that's supposed to be the next Michael Jordan. Oh my God, okay. Silver medal winner.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Silver medal winner. Holy shit. He's like 7'6". 7'4". And he can shoot. 7'4"? 20 years old, yeah. And he can shoot people out. He's probably gonna winner. Holy shit. He's like seven six. Seven four. And he can shoot. Seven four? 20 years old, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:46 And he can shoot people up. He's probably gonna get three more inches, I bet. What? Why? Cause he's not done growing. Really? How old is he? He's only 20.
Starting point is 01:02:55 20. Seven foot, two 10. Oh, whoa, my God. Crazy, crazy. There's like guy, like Anthony Davis was like a point guard in college. Like he was like six foot three, and then by point guard in college like he was like six foot Three and then by the time he left he was 6 11. Oh my god
Starting point is 01:03:11 It's crazy. He's as long as his name Yeah, do you watch baseball at all? You know, I i'm from st. Louis so I go to cardinals games, but I don't pay attention to it Yeah, well, they put a pitch clock on okay speeds up the game All right, and then the first the first super bowl in vegas. I was there you were there. Yeah, well they put a pitch clock on. Okay, cool. So it speeds up the game. All right. And then the first Super Bowl in Vegas. I was there. You were there?
Starting point is 01:03:29 Yeah, I got to go. It was so much fun. I'll never miss another Super Bowl again. I go to ERA's tour. I've been to a bunch of her shows, too many. I've been to 18 in a year and a half. And I'm addicted to just arena events, like stadium events. And I felt that same way at the Super Bowl. I thought it to just arena events,
Starting point is 01:03:45 stadium events. And I felt that same way at the Super Bowl. I thought it was just the Taylor Swift effect. Obviously, I'm a huge fan, but I was like, no, I just like being with people who are just psyched to be at this thing that they have been anticipating for so long. You just feel the energy and it was awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I'll never miss another Super Bowl, I don't think. So you're going to New Orleans. I'll pay whatever. Yeah, I'm going to New Orleans. That'll be fun. I'm another Super Bowl, I don't think. So you're going to New Orleans? I'll pay whatever, yeah, I'm going to New Orleans. I'm doing a show, I shouldn't, well, I'm doing, there will be a fun announcement about something going on around. Ooh. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully I can make a something announcement.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Yeah. Or make it to a something announcement. Wait, are you, do you go to every Super Bowl now? Yeah, I work for the, yeah. Oh yeah, you work. Fox is doing the Super Bowl this year, baby. Yeah, it's. Or I'm a Fox guy. God, you work. Fox is doing the Super Bowl this year, baby. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:25 It's... Or I'm a Fox guy. God. You're a Fox guy. Fox guy. Sweet. We might have a set up at Radio Row. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Oh nice. I swear we saw it. Yeah, I think that's where I'm gonna go. Yeah, that's where I was last year. I was too scared to come say I was a fan when I saw you this year. Wait, did you say that? I feel like I met you before. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:41 We were the cool guys at Radio Row just rocking around. Yeah, yeah. I'll be there. That was so fun. Wait, I don't know. We just have that effect on people. We were the cool guys at Radio Rage. Rocking around. Yeah, yeah. I'll be there. That was so fun.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Wait, maybe the big, are you gonna be up there with Kendrick at halftime? Is that the announcement? Yeah, yeah. I'm doing a such quite, a tight five. That would be so hilarious for a standup to do the halftime show.
Starting point is 01:05:01 To break it off, Negi Glaser. That'd be so sick. So disappointing. All right, Jackie, let's break down these Buffalo Bills and get into the game. Let's do it. We have to.
Starting point is 01:05:11 What the fuck is all this shit? OK. We'll keep it extra tight. And I'll ask questions along the way. Because I don't know what. For the heads out there, 11 and 6 this year, Sean McDermott was the head coach. Ken Dorsey got fired mid-year.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Same quarterback coach. Joe Brady? No, me and Ken Dorsey when I was in high school. Charlie Fry. Roger Theeder. Whoa. Shout out. Ken Dorsey and I.
Starting point is 01:05:31 He got replaced mid-year. I know. Do you want to be an offensive coordinator? Absolutely not. Okay, exactly. No. Yeah. I never want to be a coach.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Really? Why? Because when I would leave my 14 hour day at 8 o'clock, haven't seen sunlight other than for practice, and I'd be leaving in the parking lot, you would see the coaches seeing their kids before their next meeting. Oh my god. And they were there like three hours before us. Those guys work, those guys work a lot. Yeah. They work a lot. That visual is so sad. Like meeting in the parking lot for like five minutes. If you don't like your family though, it's cool.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Yeah. And then it rocks. It's true. It's a good point. You know, sometimes these standups do like, you know, so and so came in and did a seven hour set. And I'm like, he just is about to get a divorce. Like he just doesn't want to go home.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Do you see what's happening? He doesn't have a passion for standup. He doesn't want to be alone with his family. It's not a, it's not dedicated to the art. His wife's a cunt. And she should be. He's cheating on her, right? Like, or whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Sorry, I said cunt. You can say whatever you want. Oh good, okay good.unt. You can say whatever you want. Oh, good, okay, good. Fox. Oh my goodness. You're on Fox. This isn't Fox though. I know, I know. This is Nut House.
Starting point is 01:06:55 This is the Nut House. Okay. And then when the AFC- Oh, Joe Brady took over. Yes. Okay. After Dorsey got fired. Why was Dorsey fired? They were kind of stalling early.
Starting point is 01:07:06 The offense wasn't even. They were stinky. Jared or Josh Allen, you know what? They were turning the ball over and they weren't running. Then they started running the ball. So do a lot of changes happen throughout the season? Like people are let go and like. The rosters couldn't.
Starting point is 01:07:18 You're just never comfortable? Never. Never. Fuck. Unless you're like, there's like, but even the comfortable guys, I mean, who are like the superstars they have a Pressure that's on them for the standard that they have to go out and perform at every week, right? So there's guys that are trying to make the team there's guys that are trying to get a role
Starting point is 01:07:35 So even the comfortable guys are uncomfortable. It's wait. What do you think about Belichick on Instagram? I haven't even really seen them. I need real Bill. Okay. Okay, this is too, I need, if you wanna see real Bill. Yeah, he seems like a hostage. Right now, you gotta, what you've actually said in the group chat. I literally said that in a more charisma
Starting point is 01:07:54 than like an ISIS hostage video this morning. Hey guys, great to be here. Like what? No, he just, what you gotta do is. It's adorable. It's giving grandpa Instagram, and I like it. You lock him in a room with just like the worst football plays ever,
Starting point is 01:08:10 and let him break down, and like surprise him with it, and like just watch his face, and like, you'll see the real Bill there. Dude, that's a great thing for his social media team to do. Did you hear that? That's what he should do. His third podcast, that's what we'll do for him. Maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:24 That's good. Bro, seriously, that's what he should be That's what we'll do for him. Maybe, yeah. That's good. Whoa, seriously, like, that's what he should be doing, not whatever this other crap is. Yeah, but enough of that. Whatever. But yeah, Dorsey was fired, Joe Brady took over. They surged after their bi-week. What's a bi-week?
Starting point is 01:08:36 That means you get a week off. Okay, you call it bi-week. Everyone gets one week off during the season. Oh, I didn't know that. So you have a chance to recover or get healthy. It's different for every team, which is crazy. Yeah, so it comes in different times each year. All right, learning stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Luck of the draw. Now have you been to Buffalo? Yeah, we've performed there a lot. It's probably a fun crowd. Yeah, they're great. They're rowdy, but they like stand up a lot. You gotta go to a game over in Buffalo at Old Richard. I love Bill's fans.
Starting point is 01:09:07 The Bill's fans. The people in my life that are Bill's fans are great. They are so crazy. Yeah. They're insane, but they're like great people. Were they the ones like throwing rocks? No, they're the ones that jump off, like off their motor home on like a on fire table
Starting point is 01:09:23 and like drink a beer and then like jump 20 feet off and like break the table. That's on fire. That's dedication. They throw something else though. That's passion. They did throw a dildo on our field. They did? That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:09:35 I was sitting there. Okay, that doesn't hurt anyone. No. So they go, we're in the middle of a game and we get an incompletion and walking over and there's a, and I see this pink thing come on, like what the hell is that? And there's a dildo on the field
Starting point is 01:09:52 and it says Brady's dildo or something. And I look at, and the refs see it and the refs are sitting there, no one wants to touch it. Everyone- No one wants to pick it up. No one wants to pick it up, everyone's like, ah. Like that's what the Bills fans do. And it's happened multiple times. That's so funny. wants to pick it up, everyone's like, like that's what the Bills fans do.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And it's happened multiple times. That's so funny. Because they have to like buy one off Amazon for like 40 bucks. There it is. Ah! Ah! I didn't know it had a face.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I didn't either. That's a good one. Yeah, so. That's cute. They got a sense of humor. That's why I mean, it's gotta be a great crowd. Yeah, they're funny. They're fun.
Starting point is 01:10:23 And like, it's rare that people just wanna laugh. And if the room is dark, that's the only time where like a room cannot be great is when the crowd is lit. Like if you go to a comedy show and the crowd's lit, like you're in the audience and you're like, everyone's gonna see me laughing. And if I laugh at something,
Starting point is 01:10:38 they'll think that that's what I think or that's what I've done. And so the audience can be a little bit more cagey, but if they're in the dark, they just let loose and it's always great, but you gotta get them in the dark. That's a big, and that's why Golden Globes is terrifying because it's all people who are like so aware of being seen and it's brightly lit.
Starting point is 01:10:57 So like if they laugh, they're cosigning on that joke. And so it's going to be very delicate to write jokes. You'll be all right. I'll be all right. I'll be all right. You'll be all right. Thank you so much. Jack, break down these chiefs. Yeah, we're wrapping up the Bills real quick.
Starting point is 01:11:09 They won the AFC East for the fourth year in a row. This was Gabe Davis, Stefan Diggs, Josh Allen. Good team. Dalton King K, all those guys. A lot of dudes on that squad. Do you want to get in the chiefs real quick? Cooke. Von Miller.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Cooke had a big year that year. Wait, did you, hold on, sorry. I'm so sorry, can you go back? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see the, I think it was maybe on Sports Center, the reel of all the guys in the locker room being asked, who would you least like to date your daughter? Yes. And they all said Stephon Diggs.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Yes, yes. And then it got to Stephon Diggs, he was really kind of like, who would I, and they're like, well, we gotta say, everyone doesn't think you, they all, I wish I could say what I really wanna say, but it's like they were all, how did, they couldn't really tell you why they didn't want,
Starting point is 01:11:52 but we can only assume what this man. You got traded not too long after that video. Really, okay. That was really funny, okay, sorry. I thought I recognized it. It's so funny. Do you know Stefan? We've talked on the internet.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I guess he's just a wacky guy. And that's why they don't want their daughters dating him, because he's just so crazy. He likes to have a lot of fun. I was like, what are you not saying? Will you all tell us what you've witnessed? Jesus Christ. You got to ask the women down in Houston these days.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I don't know. No, he seemed like a great guy. He was shocked that they all said him to. It was so good. Maybe they had a play on him. Jack, you'll get in these chiefs real quick. 11 and six, Andy Reed, Matt Nagy, Spags. We know that coaching staff lost four games at home this year. This was kind of considered like a like an iffy year for the chiefs, which is why I say
Starting point is 01:12:52 Travis Kelsey Patrick Mahomes Chris Jones held out a little bit for the year. They got that figured out is a Pacheco But shake a huge huge part of their game run so hard what a beast Willie Gay all these guys Nick Bolden won the AFC West for the eighth straight season. They own that division Yeah, was she Rice emerged too. Yep, Beast. Now, we will give you the open mic to take us through the origin story of Taylor Swift's fandom. Of like my fandom or like of like,
Starting point is 01:13:17 where do you want me to start? How come you love her? Taylor Swift was born as December 13th, 1989 on a Christmas tree farm in Pennsylvania. Why do I love her? I've, you know, just, she just sings my feelings and I just think she's just, you know, Beatles level of brilliant musician.
Starting point is 01:13:40 And, you know, I'm sure there's a part of it that's like she kind of, she's blonde and she's tall and she kind of reminds me of me and she's like, what I wish I could do, but I can't so I do this. She's just the personification of everything I'd wanna be. She's a glitzy, glamorous performer, and she's poetic and she's so smart and she's so poised
Starting point is 01:14:02 and she seems to do no wrong. She's everything I would want to be. And I just love her. But I also like, she's just, her music just brings me so much joy. And that's why when people are like, are you friends with her? I'm like, I don't even need that.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Like I like her as my favorite musician. Like I don't need, like that's, she means so much to me in my life as that, that if we became friends or some like, and there was somehow, I don't know, like there was, if it ever could jeopardize my enjoyment of her music getting to know her, which I don't think it would,
Starting point is 01:14:37 but you know, sometimes if you meet your heroes, it doesn't add up to what you have in your head. No fault of hers, I'm not saying this would happen, but I can't risk losing what her music means to me in my life. So, but anyway, I- What's this? So you went to the Ellen show and you saw her perform and you got a calendar?
Starting point is 01:14:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanna hear this. So the first, yeah, my origin story with her is that I had a room, I was living in LA right out of college, trying to do standup out here. I had failed miserably after that and moved back home. But while I was here, I had a roommate that went to go see the Ellen show.
Starting point is 01:15:11 And Taylor Swift was on the Ellen show that day, and she brought home this calendar to our apartment. And I was just like, it was just like a joke to have this country girl's calendar, who we'd never heard of. And it was just on our coffee table. And we would just like, we wouldn't make fun of it because she was cute and ador-
Starting point is 01:15:27 But it was just like, why would we have this as our centerpiece? So it was like a centerpiece on our coffee table for a year. And I never even thought to listen to the girls music because I thought, oh, I don't like country. And then come to find out she's like been the most important person in my life. And like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:44 And I say that with like no irony. to find out she's been the most important person in my life. I say that with no irony. I'm a Swiftie and it's a part of my identity. Are you a huge fan of anything or anyone? You should be in a football. Yeah, I think it's similar. I understand the Taylor take. I'm 38, like I've been listening to her for probably like 25 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:11 And she's had like literally catchy, what is it, 20 years? It's 20 years, it's about 20 years, yeah. Like for 20 years, I remember we were listening to Love Story and stuff in college. She was a kid when she wrote that stuff. And now I have a kid, I have a seven year old daughter that loves her, we Went to her concert.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah. You know, so like. But I'm 40, you know, and that's why it's like a little bit problematic. Not problematic, but of concern. That I love someone this much, but I just like, I don't know, I used to be ashamed of it, but then, because it's like,
Starting point is 01:16:42 the thing is, this is a part of my personality, and that's why I think I'm a little autistic is because I get obsessed with things in a way that everyone else that likes them doesn't. Like I want to learn everything about it. And that's all I think about and I want to get the posters and I want to get the t shirts and I want to get the merch and I want to get the hat and I want to get the pins and I get obsessive where I'm like I did it with Dave Matthews band in high school.
Starting point is 01:17:03 I've done it with Wilco. I've like I pick a thing and it's my whole being. And with Taylor, it's been that way for a while. And, but then everyone kind of got on board too. And I was like, it looks like I'm not so crazy after all. Cause everyone loves her. I mean, literally her endorsement of Kamel last night, we all kind of have hope now.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Like, because everyone, but I mean, people who've never even mentioned Taylor swept on my feed or like, thank you, Taylor, you saved democracy. And it's like, fuck right she did. Like she, this pop star might have saved democracy for us in the eyes of many people. And that maybe I wasn't wrong after all for being so obsessed with this person. She's gonna save the world.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Like, and that's not an overstatement. Like it really is, it's validating decision making. Maybe I wasn't wrong after all for being so obsessed with this person She's gonna save the world like and that's not an enough. That's not an overstatement Like it really is it's validating to see her get so much love even though I wasn't even on the ground floor of it. I mean I got on board during 1989, but yeah It's and I just loved the whole love story that we're witnessing Is it real? Oh, yeah. They getting married? No, who knows? I would predict yes. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:18:09 I would predict kids and marriage, but I don't know. Kids and marriage. That would rock, I would love that. Yeah, of course. Of course, and that'll be the moment where I go, I guess I have to have kids. People keep going, are you gonna have kids? And I go, no, until Taylor Swift does.
Starting point is 01:18:22 And then I'll go, oh God, I gotta find someone to adopt or something. Like I really, I do look to her as like, what's okay. It's okay to be in your 30s and not have kids or what. But if she does, I'll probably be like, oh, I gotta do it. But no, I do believe, there's no part of me that's ever questioned whether or not they're in love and that it's real and all of that. Like I thought that was funny that anyone thought
Starting point is 01:18:44 that that was, you know, devised or put together behind the scenes. And it's fun to watch, you know? And I think any scrutiny of it is just people being jealous because everyone's like married and bored and no one's gonna ever, unless you cheat, you're never gonna feel like, oh my God, like giddy about someone ever again.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Like, sorry, that's what monogamy is. Like, and it's great because it's steady and it's secure and there's all great things about long-term relationships, but you're never gonna have what they have ever again. And you're jealous that you're never gonna be at the US Open going like, and like kissing and like laughing. Like you don't do that with your husband of eight years, unless maybe you're drunk.
Starting point is 01:19:23 But like, I don't, I think that most people that are ever having, just saying stuff about them or rolling their eyes or being like, enough already. You're just unhappy and you're jealous. I get it. I agree. Because it's so fun to fall in love and good for her. And they'll be in a place where they're not like that.
Starting point is 01:19:43 That doesn't last. We all know that kind of infatuation with one another. Honeymoon stage. Theirs is going a while because they're on the road a lot and this is all me speculating for. Ration time. So the time they get, I mean, that's athlete life, that's entertainer life.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yeah, and so it's going on a while, which is great for us to watch and it feels so good to watch, but they'll get to a place where it's a little bit more steady and stagnant and not as like cutesy and fun and flirty, but right now it's just so fun to watch. I'm into it. It is, and I like it because it's growing our sport.
Starting point is 01:20:14 I mean, you're a Chiefs fan, and we're- And I'm not just there to be like, when are they gonna show Taylor? I'm trying to understand the game. I'm becoming a fan of the game because of her. It's really happening. That is so cool, I love that. I'm glad you guys like it. I'm glad people understand the game. Like I'm becoming a fan of the game because of her. It's really happening. That is so cool. I love that.
Starting point is 01:20:26 I'm glad you guys like it. I'm glad like people aren't like, oh yeah, now you care. Like I'm sure there's some people like that. That's a lame take. I don't care. Those are narrow minded people. Amen. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Don't you want growth? Thank you. You want growth. You want to grow the party. Yeah, that's the way I feel about being a Swiftie is like if you want wanna jump on board now and you weren't before, I don't care, just come on in. We'll have you, like it's really fun.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Join us. Hell yeah, with open arms. And I did the game show with Travis that he hosts, the Are You Smarter Than A Celebrity? Yeah. That's coming out on Amazon, I think October 16th. How was it? So fun, I mean me as a super Swiftie, I was like, do I tell him? Like that feels like something I should disclose
Starting point is 01:21:10 if he's to be around me. Like she was on my phone as like the picture. I'm like, I should take that off. And I go, no, I'm not gonna take it off because that would mean I'm hiding something. And if he sees it, I'll say something, but I'm not gonna be like, look, you know, like, and so I didn't say anything
Starting point is 01:21:23 cause it was just not the place to be like, and I love your girlfriend and I'm so happy for you. Like it was just about getting the show done and he was so good and it was, it's just so cool to see someone like it was at the roast, like seeing you guys who are such masters at what you've done enter this new kind of thing that we're all really proficient at and just kill it
Starting point is 01:21:44 and go, oh, there's a reason they were good at that other thing too, is because they just know how to get good at things. They know how to put in the work to be great. And that's what I saw with Travis in hosting was like, he's doing something that I've watched a lot of famous people who host for a living do and not do as well as he did. And he was truly, like I've done a ton of these game shows with hosts.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Yeah, yeah. And um. He killed it, he's a charming guy. But it's not easy to read a teleprompter and like have the game play going and keep the jokes going, right? Yeah, I can't read. And he was really good at it.
Starting point is 01:22:19 It's hard. I was just like, man. Live TV, it's tough. I was happy for our girl. I just told like, I just told other Swifties that I know personally, I was like our girl chose a good guy. He's very talented and he really was nice to everyone on set and didn't big time anyone.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Like it's really easy for those hosts to kind of like, even if there's a celebrity pool of people competing and there's the host, the host sometimes will like stay apart from everyone else. He was mingling with everyone and this was like at the height of them being like they just won the Super Bowl and this was like back in the spring when we filmed this and he was just cool and humble and I really just made it made me happy for my friend Taylor. Me too.
Starting point is 01:22:59 It really felt like I met my friend's boyfriend and he was cool you know like he got the thumbs up. Yeah, one for the football boys. She doesn't need it know? He got the thumbs up. One for the football boys. She doesn't need it from me. That's right, baby. One for the football boys. He's awesome. And yeah, it's good to see, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:12 And you as well, you're charismatic, you're good on stage. It's cool to hear that you sold out the Wilbur and had an amazing show and gonna continue to do that stuff. This ain't easy. No, it's not. But you know how to be great.
Starting point is 01:23:27 I need to ice my brain. Yeah, do you sometimes at the end of podcasts feel like you need, or just talking too much? I do talk a lot. Like just you do a podcast and you do an interview and then, cause you know you're doing a lot of this. And at home after I'm done, I just want to sit on my couch and do nothing.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Agreed. Or you get into a car, you have a car service and the driver wants to talk. And you have to because you don't want them to tell people that you were rude, because then that person will tell someone that tells someone and then suddenly there's a train of people who hear that one time you were a dick.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Thus you have to be nice. But sometimes you just wanna say. That's why I never get, like when someone says that person was an ass. I never trust it either. I never trust it because you never know that maybe his fucking dog died that day. I need three separate sources.
Starting point is 01:24:19 I need three separate instances from three different people that have a talk. And they gotta be credible sources. That they align with the same thing. Like this person didn't tip this one time, I need three separate instances from three different people that have a talk. And they gotta be credible sources. That they align with the same thing, like this person didn't tip this one time, they didn't tip this, and then I go, they're shitty. Oh, so you're a detective, you're a detective worker.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Yeah, but one time they didn't tip, you don't know the circumstances, they could have thought someone else tipped. Yes. It's happened before, so you need, you need to, everyone out there, before you judge people, get get multiple stories first. Got to get multiple stories. And we got to get the story on this game, Jackie.
Starting point is 01:24:51 We must crazy one in Orchard Park early. We trade field goals three to three in Buffalo, in Buffalo, in Buffalo. Jason Kelsey shirt off in the box. Cold night. Oh, my God. All that doesn't matter. Chugging beers is cool. Tied at the end of one, early in the second quarter, the Bills take the lead on a Josh Allen,
Starting point is 01:25:08 scramble for a touchdown, capping off a 75 yard drive. Chiefs come back with a field goal, 10-6 now. Then with under four left to play, Pat finds wide open Trav for the first TD, puts them up 13 to 10. Trav does the iconic love, love. The heart hands. He does the heart hands atay. Yeah, so sick. Oh, that the iconic love, love, the heart hands. He does the heart hands atay.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Yeah, so sick. Oh, that was so cute. Those moments are so great. Love that one. That was iconic. When he's looking up at the box, cheesing. They say he's cheesing, but he's like, I think he just, sometimes he's like looking at the scores.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Like, you know, like, I'm sure he could be looking at many things, but we just attribute everything he does. I like to think he's looking dead in the eyes atain. It's so cute. With the heart hands. That's what I think too. That was baller. But then the Bills march back down, regain the lead, 17-13 going into the half.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Wait, can I ask a question? Dumb girl question. Play it on me. Because I really want to understand, okay, what's the difference between a TD and a rushing TD? It's just the type of TD. A TD is the same thing. They're both six points.
Starting point is 01:26:03 A rushing means you ran it in. You didn't throw it. A touchdown means you threw it and someone caught it. No, touchdown is just, that's just describing. Well, a touchdown is like the thing. But a rushing means like he got through people and. Yeah, well, Pacheco's a running back. So you hand him the ball.
Starting point is 01:26:20 You don't throw him the ball, typically. And so he, someone handed him the ball and he scored a touchdown. Okay, thank you. So, but if it was like a receiver and he caught it, he would just say touchdown. Got it, okay, thank you. Good, that's a good question.
Starting point is 01:26:34 I don't know if it was, but thank you for explaining it helps. But then, early in the second. Staggered laughs throughout the week. No, no, no, we're good. I like that. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:26:41 No, no, no, we're good. I like that. Uh huh. Uh huh. I'm just kidding. Bill's, Trav comes out, gets his second TD to start the third quarter there. She's retake lead. Then we switch back, Buffalo retakes the lead on a long 15 play drive.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Then back up 24-20. Now we're into the fourth. Pacheco TD starts it off, go up 27-24. That'd be the last score of the game. Game gets a little drunk. We got the DeMar Hamlin fake punt that doesn't go through. We got the fumble through the back of the end zone. Then down to the end, a Buffalo ending, a familiar ending for the people in Buffalo. Field goal miss. Wide right. Wide right. a field goal miss wide right. Wide right.
Starting point is 01:27:26 You ever heard of wide right? Please explain that. So wide right. So the Bills went to the Super Bowl in the 90s four times in a row. Oh my God. And they lost them all. And there was like their first one they went to, they had a field goal to win the game. Was it to win or tie?
Starting point is 01:27:41 Could have been to win. Tie, tie, tie. Because the Giants won. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tie. And it was a short field goal and they missed it. So like this wide right is a term known throughout football lore that the Bills missed it. Because it went to the right wide? The kick.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Who was that kicker? That was Scott Norwood back then. Norwood. Was he like, is he okay? You remember like Ace Ventura? Like Laces Out Dan? I'm pretty sure he turned into that guy. That was based off of his character.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Oh my god. No I don't know if that's true but that's what I think. Are the Bills mad at him or were they like probably like it's okay buddy we're sad too. Like what's the vibe after something like that happens? I think it's become so a part of their identity to be losers that they now have like ownership.
Starting point is 01:28:26 OK, OK. People wear jerseys now of his too. OK, OK, good. He literally disappeared from like the public eye for a long time. He was bad. Oh, no. So he was shameful.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Yeah. And then he was like selling insurance. And then I think he's doing some real estate stuff now. OK, all right. All right. Yeah, it's a good market. It's a it's a seller's market right now.
Starting point is 01:28:43 So I don't think it is Do you remember did you watch this game, uh, yeah, definitely where uh, probably at home Did you remember do you remember jason kelsey just chugging beers? Yes, and I just Are you are you team jason or team travis moore? I don't know bias You know what? I i'm gonna go with the older brother here. I'm gonna go with Jason because I feel like he made, he's gave us what Travis is. Like a great older brother can really set the stage
Starting point is 01:29:15 for a great younger brother. Cause it's just, that's everything. Like I feel like the greatest men I know have really good influences as an older, for an older brother. And you just see that Jason's just who he is. He's really funny. He's, he cares a lot.
Starting point is 01:29:32 He has a lot of heart. He's not like, even though you would say a guy taking off his shirt and chugging beers in the box is like dying for attention and like, he just is trying to make a statement. No, that's just who he is. That's a really good point. It's like there's nothing showboaty about him even though he's a showboat.
Starting point is 01:29:49 And I really, I just, I love him and I think he's like, you know, I think that whole family has a lot of heart and it's just a great close tight knit family. But I think Jason has just been a great example and mentor for Travis. I mean, I have no idea, but I just feel like, yeah. I love them both though. Just a couple Ohio boys. Yeah, I'm Ohio girl
Starting point is 01:30:07 Yeah, so yeah. In fact when I met Travis Kelsey, I was so nerf like I on the show together We I was great because it's on camera and I'm like professional nice but then he was you know making small talk during a stop down on the show and was like and it came up during the Show that I'm from Ohio, or was born there, and he goes, well, what part of Ohio are you from? Because he went to college there, and I couldn't remember where I was born. I couldn't remember the town.
Starting point is 01:30:33 My teeth started chattering, and I'm not someone who gets, I've gotten this way a couple times when I met Dave Matthews, when I met, I think Howard Stern the first time, but like, I- Geez, man. Shout out Howard, baby. Kelsey's in the Howard Stern the first time but like I Geez man, not Howard baby. Kelsey's in the Howard Stern That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Category. Well, no offense to Travis because I have the utmost respect for him and but he's not someone I knew about prior to Taylor Swift really no offense. I don't think a lot of people But still he's there now. But because of his proximity to her and because of how much she loves him and how much I how much reverence I have for him and knowing how everyone who pays attention to this game feels about him, I was that nervous.
Starting point is 01:31:11 And then the second the cameras were back on, I was fine. But I was like, I can't have a, I was just like, love-land, like my teeth were, I've never had that kind of nervous reaction. But yeah, that happened. So Ohio, man. Ohio. And then I blacked out the rest of the conversation.
Starting point is 01:31:30 I don't even know what happened. Honestly, he was so nice to me too. And I could tell he probably knew I was nervous. Look how adorable these two are. Look at them. So the aftermath of this, Jack, what happens? The Bills lose for the third straight year in the divisional round. Patrick Moehm goes on to win another Super Bowl.
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Starting point is 01:35:08 So we got to name this game. This is the segment where we name the game and we score it. Nikki, what game would you like to call it? The Swift comeback, the Swift victory, the Kelsey Swift spectacle, the sweet chiefs. I got you give me choices. The sweet escape a game. The Kelsey box game.
Starting point is 01:35:28 The Jason Kelsey game. Or wide white three. Wide white. The white sweater game. I sounded like, what is that? Because that's what she was wearing. The white sweater. I just know by what she was wearing.
Starting point is 01:35:38 I love that. And he and Jason Kelsey was wearing a white sweater. A white person's sweater, which is just. The white sweater game. The white sweater game, I love it. Black chest hair. Perfect. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Stakes of this divisional round game, zero to 10 decimals okay. I mean the stakes for me, based on just what I know and what I just heard you guys say, it feels like the stakes were pretty high. It feels like a nine. Like getting the bills, like getting close
Starting point is 01:36:05 to another Super Bowl, which they haven't been since the 90s, has they not been to the Super Bowl since the 90s? Since that run? Okay, I would say it's a nine. It's a nine, that's a great score. I'm gonna go with the eight, six, because division around, what'd you guys go?
Starting point is 01:36:18 Eight, six as well. Okay, great, I'm not like completely off. I did seven, nine. Star power of this game. I mean, can it get better? I mean, the Super Bowl's better, so I'll give it a nine. Like it's right below what you're gonna get there.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Good integrity score. With Taylor there. And with Jason. Jason's there. Fresh off retirement. Trav's there. Fresh off retirement. How many Hall of Famers on the field do you think?
Starting point is 01:36:41 My homes. Future, yeah. Kelsey. Josh Allen. Andy Reid. Andy Reid. Andy Reed. I'm gonna go eight spags. A lot of good folks here. Oh nine three. Right. Out of nine four. Let's go baby. The gameplay of the game it went back and forth. I think that's fun. Fun to watch. It was fun. I mean, I'll give it an eight six. Cause I. I like that.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Yeah. I like that. I'm gonna go eight seven. Eight one. Eight one. Okay. I had a five. Man, we're almost in the game.
Starting point is 01:37:13 I love it. The name of the game, the white sweater game, because Tay-Tay wore the white sweater. And because Jason Kelsey took off a shirt and he displayed his white sweater. So everyone. It was more dark. A graying.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Brunette sweater. Brunette. Brunette. Oh wow, I didn't notice that. And he was a white sweater, like he was sweating. So he took off his shirt. He was a white man sweater. It works in so many ways. It does.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Okay. The name of the game, you gotta score the name. Oh, I gotta score the name of the game? This is dumb. Okay. No, it's the cultural impact. It's a good name, I think we nailed it, 10. It's the cultural impact. Fucking 10.
Starting point is 01:37:52 I'm gonna go with the seven. Oh, okay. Oh man, I scored this before I knew the name, but all right, eight, three's all right. Where does it score? Eight, four, seven. Where does that rank on all our games that we have done it's too high I'll tell you that much it's too high it's it tied with the 18 and one
Starting point is 01:38:11 Super Bowl what number is that Jack? I threw it. The Patriots, Giants, Super Bowl loss the under-fuelling season. My votes have counted like Idaho's electoral call. It's just below the 2003 ASC Championship Colts versus Patriots, and just above Becky Two Belts, WrestleMania 35, and the double comeback game. Pat's Ravens, little high. Wait, so what was the number one game that you have, the Super Bowl, what's LI?
Starting point is 01:38:39 That's a? 51. 51, and when was that? That was the, when we were down 28 to 3. That was when you were at? Yeah. Oh my god. Wait, what happened in that? Sorry, this is what this is about. We were losing 28 to 3 at in the third quarter. What year? 2017? Season 17. 16. Okay, this is how I'm gonna distinguish it. Who was the halftime show? Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga. Okay, okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Wow, wait, so you were down. Down, 28 to three in the third quarter. And? We came back in one. Holy fuck. Actually, now that you're a football fan, I gotta go back and watch Highlights of That. You should watch that game. I can't wait. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 01:39:21 There's a lot of good stories too behind it, like Tom's mom was sick, Tom was coming off to Flakegate. You know, there's a lot of stuff. Oh my God. It was juicy. Okay, wow. I'm so glad I asked. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Did we miss anything, Nikki? No, we did so much. This was so fun. This was very fun. Do you want to plug anything? Yeah, my special, Someday You'll Die, which was nominated for an Emmy, didn't win, lost to Dick Van Dyke, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Dick Van Dyke's still alive? Yeah. He was moving around until I saw. Bro. No, I'm just kidding. For now. Um, so Dick Van Dyke won, and he showed up, he's Dick Van Dyke.
Starting point is 01:40:00 You remember those, didn't he used to sell those record things, the Dick Van Dyke? No, you're thinking of the New Year's Eve guy. Dick Clark. Dick Clark. Oh, okay. Remember those, I used to watch his infomercials. Dick Van Dyke is the guy from the original.
Starting point is 01:40:14 Yeah, the Dick Van Dyke show. But also Mary Poppins. Yeah, yes. I didn't know he was still there. Yeah, he's still here. He's still with Tiny Song on Saturday night. Lost to him. But you guys gotta check out this, someday he'll die. Yeah, streaming on going, Dick, baby. I saw him on Saturday night. Lost to him. But you guys got to check out this.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Someday he'll die. Yeah, streaming on Max now. Thank you so much. And then I'm currently on tour, and I will be for the rest of my life. It's so much fun. Come see me, Nikki Glaser, alive and unwell. And I just want to say, if you watch my special,
Starting point is 01:40:37 you go to this tour, you're not going to hear any of the same material. It's all new. I'm working on my next special already. So come out and see me. I've dates at nickigglazer.com. Guys, she's freaking hilarious. You watch that special, you'll see exactly what she is about.
Starting point is 01:40:52 She is unfiltered, it makes it so fun to hear it coming from her. Thank you, man. And like, it's just, you guys gotta check out. Someday you'll die streaming on Macs. Go check her out live, she's a blast, and she'll be hosting the Golden Globes here, coming up, which is gonna be insane.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Oh yeah, let's go! January 5th. Let's go! She's had a monster year. Thank you so much for doing the show, Nikki. Thank you so much, it was such an honor, it was fun. Wow, she really is funny. I'm a full Nikki Stan, she rocks.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Her story's awesome, and I'm so happy for her that like a lot of people probably saw her for the first time at the roast and to see what she's Used that to get you know become and get you know she's been doing it for a long time And she was explaining you know takes it takes a special something that break And you know I don't know if that was her break But you know it was cool't know if that was her break, but you know, it was cool to hear her side of that story. It was cool to hear that she knew
Starting point is 01:41:51 what it was gonna be ahead of time and she did all that preparation. Yeah. That was cool. She's done those roles in the past, but none of them were, she, you're right, she knew this was it, baby, this was a big one. Well, they hadn't been around in a minute, right?
Starting point is 01:42:03 They hadn't been around in a minute and it switched from Comedy Central over to Netflix. Yeah. This is the first Netflix one? Yeah, and the first live one. The others were taped. Yeah. I forgot that she was at the Comedy Store
Starting point is 01:42:14 when you were there. I remember, I forgot until she told me. She said that. I was in a fucking zone. We were hearing that. It's like, oh, don't go in there. You'll hear her stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:24 I was rocking it, bro Man, that was so cool It was cool to go back to that that time and in place when when we were in the writers room and jamming and It was that was really a magical night. It's cool. It was so cool I wanted to dig in more about if Jeff was telling comedians the stuff that you guys like how like Tackfully he was telling people what jokes were coming out and what she said. Edelman's got a Hernandez joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:50 So I'm curious. Yeah. It's all better. No. Yeah. Or there these guys are doing this one kind of being the puppet master. Jeff was amazing with Roastmaster Roastmaster himself baby. I wonder who's next.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Who's next? LeBron next. LeBron. LeBron. That'd be insane. Or, I mean, did you get an active, is Patty too young? I was gonna say is Killer Trav or Patty too young? I don't know. Trav.
Starting point is 01:43:15 I guess it's Trav. They need more, I think, out there. I think you need to be like, kind of at the end. No, Trav can get roasted right now because... Well, he's a huge star. You gotta be like, done, I think. you gotta be like done i think i don't know yeah i don't know no i think if they could get trav they'd be down 100 there's 230 million no fucking slappies that'd be crazy bro either way what a time nicky was awesome yeah she was
Starting point is 01:43:38 great like she just yeah she rocks it's cool that like how much she's like actually getting into football is awesome. Amen and great hanging the nuthouse Yeah came right in and felt like she was one of the crew. I love it. Yeah, she was good I liked it. It was fun. I can't wait to keep watching her Yeah, and now now i'm like It's kind of like when you meet so, you know like You're vested now. Yeah, I am. Yeah yeah Golden Globes baby I can't wait Golden Globes probably wouldn't watch it but now I will amen I'll be rooting for I still was but I like the you watching Golden Globes hater I love the Golden Globes I watched the Oscars I love the award season it's fun
Starting point is 01:44:17 I like all the Hollywood types patting their own back who needs it yeah but I like seeing the fits and the pageantry. It's fun. A celebration of the industry we've run. Honestly, I don't think I watch the whole thing. I think I just get to flip back and forth. Yeah, flip back and forth. Four hours. Social, I just scroll.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Check out Vogue the next day. Take the TikTok Spark Note version of it. It catches what you need on Twitter. I also, I love a NudHouse guest that follows us and likes our clips and is in. She knew the vibe. I love that. That was so cool.
Starting point is 01:44:44 I was tickled, man. Yeah, you definitely. Also, can we just? Us and likes our clips and she knew she knew the vibe. I love that Yeah, you definitely also can we just maybe blush Bon Jovi like John what a fucking mensch this guy just goes out and Talks people off bridges. Do you think he would have the courage to do that? How do you not just talk to us? You think he's saying to her a to do that had he not just talked to us. Check, check. You think he sang to her a little? I hope so. Maybe a little acoustic version like N-key. Maybe this will spark. This will spark something.
Starting point is 01:45:12 It could, bro. That is incredible. What a guy. Add it to your list of the laundry list. It doesn't surprise you though. No. No. Because we've been getting a lot of, I've been getting a lot of text messages because he was just on the show and the timing of this.
Starting point is 01:45:23 And it's just like, the one thing I'm not surprised at of text messages because he was just on the show and the timing of this and it's just like the one Thing is like I'm not surprised at all because at all he was such a genuine nice hospitable amazing human being I wasn't surprised and I was like almost like is this like probably the third time it's happening I was gonna say it's like an old headline. Yeah, John is so cool. Yeah, it's a sweet person. I always said that No, he's the best and to see him talking a lady off the left I mean we should make this this should be a movie. We should make a movie about this I'm with you get Oliver Stone to do. I mean, we should make this, this should be a movie. We should make a movie about this. I'm with you. Get Oliver Stone to do it. Yeah, we'll get Oliver Stone.
Starting point is 01:45:48 All right, let's jump into a little something. You know, we've been reading all these Apple podcast reviews. So let's hear a couple of them. You know, these have been fun. This is to encourage you to write more. You want me to read these out or we? Yeah, why don't you do it? All right.
Starting point is 01:46:05 We got we got our first one here from Westbound 007 five star review category. The title of this one is Macho. The Macho Man impressions were freaking amazing. I love this podcast. That was a great moment from the Becky Lynch episode. Westbound, where's that you think? Anywhere west of the Mississippi? Maybe I think it's trans.
Starting point is 01:46:24 Maybe he's in a little. He's not anywhere. He's going west. Westbound, where's that you think? Anywhere west of the Mississippi maybe? I think it's trans... Maybe he's in a little... Moving. He's not anywhere, he's going west. He's west, go west young man. And he also likes, maybe he's a spy because he's 007. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Is he a double agent? Oh that's pretty cool. Oh you guys are... Oh yeah. I don't know, every time I do the macho man I can't talk for like three days. Snap into a Slim Jim, eat me. Oh yeah. Cream rises to Slim Jim. Eat me.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Cream rises to the top. Oh yeah. Oh, watch out. Yeah. The cream always rises to the top when you look at that. Oh yeah. All right, next review. You'll know when we recorded this
Starting point is 01:47:02 is if you watch Fox NFL kickoff and Jules can't talk. We just did this episode. Gamma Milti now please. Extra honey. Pronto. All right. Let me read this one.
Starting point is 01:47:12 All right. This is from The Kind. The title is great. Five stars. The review is great pod. Short and sweet. I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Short and sweet. Short and sweet. All The Kind is a name sweet all the kind is a kind Fan of maybe just a kind guy or he's a fan of the bar. I don't know. It's th a though. Yeah space Okay Gosh alright next review. That's a good one from mom back 916 shout out mom mom back mom back Pot is a weekly listen. Wait, wait, 916 is that where's that? That the Doc's mom back is that in New York? That is
Starting point is 01:47:51 Sacramento Zach Docs are anonymous for viewers. All right, mom back 916 Number is oh My god five-star review Jules Jack and Kyler, sup bubs. Love the pod boys It's a part of my work days And I love going back and listening to old EPS to catch up on something I may be missed I know it's a tough task But is there any way we can get Bobby Orr on the pod to talk about the goal?
Starting point is 01:48:20 The flying goal. Against the blues that clinched Boston the 72 Stanley Cup. You ask any hockey fan alive during the time and maybe even know still if they were raised right. Bobby Orr is the greatest defenseman of all time. Would love to hear a Bobby Orr rep. Probably the greatest statue of all time. Oh, a timer, bro. Incredible moment. Yeah, we got to get him on. We got more hockey coming. We're gonna be doing more hockey This would be a white whale episode guest. We are talking with a former teammate of his mom back So we'll see on that but mmm Who maybe has assisted this goal for all you puckheads? Okay? But yeah more hockey popular would be incredible. I DM them to try. I don't know on social media
Starting point is 01:49:03 Yeah, they respond so he might not be in there damn is he like great-granddaughter could shouldn't use to be in there that'll maybe 70 knows a long time ago 76 yeah that's old bro yep he doesn't have a great granddaughter he could if he had a kid young no can't great can you so you'd have a kid that kid will have a kid a young age Just add a family of having a kid young kids kids I mean maybe they're from you know create Canada rule Canada that you know it could be different over there Is he Canadian? He's from Ontario. Yeah, see rural Canada. Maybe they go one of the best ever do it
Starting point is 01:49:46 He'd be great Was he's young his young family Shout-out to his possible young family A nostalgic roller coaster ride. This is a five-star review from fudge flaps Quite the username my guy my This is a long one. This is a very long one. So I'm going to get my Fludge Flaps.
Starting point is 01:50:08 All of my New England Patriots fandom aside, Julian Edelman has posted himself as one of the most intriguing and knowledgeable hosts in the game. Right on, bro. Who do we pay for this? Always excited to share while maintains the ability to listen and be curious. I always love hearing the ins and outs of historic sports moments and when this podcast made its way into the world I found an unbelievable source of entertainment,
Starting point is 01:50:33 humor, and ever-present wonder of sitting and just riffing off statistics and talking about random sports moments with the boys. This show helps me smile, escape the dark times, and I remember that I've listened through some of the greatest games ever. As a lifelong sports fanatic, this show brings my serotonin to a whole new level. Wow. Oh man, Fudge Flaps is nice with the pen.
Starting point is 01:50:56 What a guy. Fudge Flaps is, dude, he, that's like a very good written review. It was, bro. That's a very abusive, very, like, that was great review. It was, bro. That's Emily Format. Very abusive, very, like, that was great. Serotonin, I love it. The fact that we can be a little serotonin boost,
Starting point is 01:51:11 and the fact that we can help you through those dark times, that's an honor. I'm curious about you, Fudge Flaps. I wanted to say Fludge Apps. I'm maybe dyslexic. You think they would have diagnosed that? No. You know, years ago.
Starting point is 01:51:30 I like nuts in my fudge. How about you? You like what? I like some nuts in my fudge. Oh, I haven't got you. Yeah, I gotta get a little crunch in there. You like to dip your nuts in fudge? What? What? Kyler Live-A-Little.
Starting point is 01:51:44 You want to read this nuts in fudge? What? What? Um, KylerLiv-a-Little. You wanna read this one, Jules? Tim-ay... Oh... Tim-ay... 1012. Best podcast by a mile, but Jules, tell Kyler to have fun once in a while
Starting point is 01:52:00 instead of saying let's wrap this up 70 times when you and Jack are having a good old time. in a while instead of saying, let's wrap this up 70 times when you and Jack are having a good old time. Other than that, killer show, boys. To me. Can we wrap this up? 70 times.
Starting point is 01:52:17 There's only so much hard drive space in the world. I wish you saw behind the camera how much times he tells us to wrap it up You know, it's even crazier is when he's I'm getting the exclamation points on the docks and stuff Oh, it's a perfect it's a perfect time for a follow-up question that is dumb Gotta get people in and out. We're a well-known machine Okay, you just can't destroy the art, the integrity of the art of the conversation. Is there an audiobook version of that?
Starting point is 01:52:51 Yeah, I just said that two seconds ago. No, he didn't. He did! Did he? Well, in my listening and curiosity, according to Fudge Flaps person, his fudge flaps is fucking way off. So what the hell is fudge flaps watching? Or listening to? We should praise the curiosity.
Starting point is 01:53:10 We love the riff, baby. We love it. Keegan-Michael Key we're talking about. Yeah, Keegan-Michael Key. I wonder if he is going to read the audiobook. Read the audiobook? If he's going to read his own audiobook. Oh, I wonder if he's narrating it. Oh, Oh, yeah, is he narrating it? Oh, if he's gonna say I was about to ask him that why would I mean he's a voice actor from I kill it
Starting point is 01:53:30 Oh, yeah, this guy's fucking did you do your own? I didn't I'd take a long time. Yeah, who did yours? Some right now I wouldn't wish I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I think I listened a little bit it's so funny to hear like like a I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I think I listened to a little bit. It's so funny to hear a man of nice literature have to say, let's the fuck go up, bro. Like when they're quoting me in certain things, let's fucking go.
Starting point is 01:54:00 And he said, it was, let's fucking go. You know what I mean? It's pretty stupid recording that Audiobook would probably take longer than writing it writing it took a long time. Actually, dude. Shout out to Greg Gregory Abbey, bro I was the guy that did it and Tom current to shut up. Gregory Abbey was a narrator though. Oh great mine Yeah, he's in bull. Yeah, he's been some stuff bro. Let's hear why let's put him on real quick. I want to hear his voice He's in bull. Yeah, he's been some stuff bro. Let's hear why let's put him on real quick. I want to hear his voice FBI he's done some stuff. Shout out Gregory the Atlanta Falcons speed in execution and our lack of precision
Starting point is 01:54:37 Put us in a Super Bowl hole deeper than one any team had ever climbed out of What made me so sure they would be a plot twist? Did I have doubts? now they would be a plot twist. Did not have doubts? No. We'd been in holes like this before. In Super Bowl XLIX, we trailed by 10 at the start of the fourth quarter against Seattle. No team had ever raised a double-digit deficit in the fourth quarter of a Super Bowl. We did. We did.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Nobody believed in us then. I was sure nobody believed in us now. That didn't matter. Nobody believed a lot of us would even get to the NFL. Here we were. Nobody believed Tom Brady would go from a six-round pick to the best ever. He did. Nobody believed Bill Belichick was a legend in waiting when he was hired by the Patriots in 2000.
Starting point is 01:55:20 He was. Nobody believed I could play quarterback at a division one football program in college and turned myself into a wide receiver in the NFL I had Our organization was loaded with people who ignored doubters to get where they were Just before the second half kickoff Tom sat down next to me on our bench. I reminded him once more Gonna be a hell of a story. Hell yeah, he said. Hell yeah. Coming out of halftime, the Falcons threw one...
Starting point is 01:55:52 She's like, a good book. We should read that. I was just gonna say that. Check that one out. Dude sounds awesome. Now I'm deep in the Gregory Abbey Wikipedia page. I said, it's gonna be a hell of a story. Hell yeah. He said.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. He did a lot of work on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, some Yu-Gi-Oh! Nice. I like them. All right. Let's wrap this up. Well, what a game. Thanks again to Nicky. That was a fun episode. And that's been another episode of Games with Names.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Oh, wait, hold on. I had a joke I wrote for this. Jack was so pumped about... Dude, dude, wrap it up, wrap it up, wrap it up. What a game. That's... Thanks again to Nicky. That's been another episode of games with names. Subscribe on Apple podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts. Comment a game you want us to do and remember, rate and review. Remember to follow Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, X, TikTok,
Starting point is 01:56:49 and Snapchat. Leave a message on the hotline at 424-291-2290. We'll see you guys next week. Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before. Tried to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI.
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Starting point is 01:58:01 Catch new episodes every Wednesday and I'll have the biggest NFL stars join me to give a player's perspective of the biggest storylines, trends, and did that really just happen moment from around the league. So tap in to Off the Edge with Cam Jordan's podcast, your ultimate playbook for all things football and not football. Listen on the iHeart, radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Joe Gatto. I'm Steve Byrne. We are Two Cool Moms.
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Starting point is 01:59:28 Benjamin Franklin is our subject for a new season with Walter Isaacson. He's the most successful, self-made business person in America. A printer, a scientist, a founding father, but maybe not the guy we think we know. Franklin casts his lot on the side of revolution, and it's another thing that splits the family apart.
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