Games with Names - Ty Law Stories
Episode Date: May 17, 2026Ty Law tells his favorite stories from his time playing for the New England Patriots, including talk about Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, and Mike VrabelSupport the show: http://www.gameswithnames.com/See... omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Now, Ty Law's best Bill Belmont.
What's your best Bill Belichick story?
All right.
Look.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, you know what.
All right.
Look.
All right.
So it was a situation where, you know, I was going through, you know, some contract, you know, some contract stuff before.
And Bill was like, hey, we need to restructure your contract.
And I was like, well, it was just going to be like an extension.
You know what I mean?
You just say some cap space or whatever.
And I'm like, you know, okay.
But after we got it all down, I'm like, hey, man.
So that's a fucking.
fucking pay cut.
What did you mean?
They ain't saving me no money.
I don't even got to send my agent this shit.
You know what I mean?
But then we went through it and then so he hits me and it was a good friend.
You know, on the team, I ain't going to say no names.
I can't put it out there like that.
And he was like, hey, look, if you don't restructure this, man, we're going to have to cut your boy.
I was like, well, I guess he'll cut ass.
I ain't giving you shit.
You know, I'm like, that ain't happen.
I said, I guess I got to go tell my boy that, hey, bro.
Hey man, get your neck, get you,
get you, something like that, you know what I mean?
But, like I said, we were, you know,
but that's Bill being Bill and now that,
so we end up, uh, we end up working it out,
I restructured it. I said, look, I don't care about it.
As long as I'm getting paid the same thing is,
because I didn't call in and try to get no more money.
And even though a lot of stuff got blown out of proportion,
we worked it out.
I restructured my contract.
My dog was still there.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, we move on.
But all we had to do was just,
we didn't even have to go through all that.
Oh, Bill.
But you, you know, they try to do that and test your loyalty.
Coach Parcells tried me when I was a rookie.
But I like to say I'm a little bit of a different breed.
I got a mind of my own.
So now they came in and put me at the end zone.
The end zone was even better, but it was still shitty when you was there, right?
The end zone hotel.
I lived there for a couple months.
But when I came for my visit, it was myself, Curtis Martin.
They end up driving the both of us.
You know how you just go on the business.
They want to talk to your interview and stuff like that.
So Coach Parcells brought me into the office.
office and say, look, hey, man, we like you, but we don't like who you got representing you.
He's like, you know, those posting brothers, man.
He said, I can't draft you with that.
So I'm sitting there myself, you know, people had me trajectory go to the Detroit Lions at number, I think they had the 21st pick of the draft.
And I'm sitting like, you know what?
After what I've seen and looking at Foxborough Stadium, I'm seeing all these trailer parks up here and shit, I'm like, man.
Okay, that made me keep my agent even more.
Because I ain't, man, y'all, you couldn't even put me in a merry yacht.
Yeah.
You couldn't put me, you know, I'm thinking I'm about to go to the league, you know,
risk all and get some room service or some shit like that, man.
Man, bro, I was not trying to come to wing just because of that.
But when he told me that, what he tried to do is getting to, you know,
a young guy's head, see what you think.
That's the divide and conquer, you know, mentality saying that, you know,
you might want to draft me.
You know, I don't know that.
But you think I'm going to go and fire my agent just because of what you said,
even if I had my agent and I'm with you
and you don't want to get the deal down.
No, that's not happening.
So my agent brought it up to Bill Parcells
and Bill was like, well, I had to try.
Because, hey, there's one.
And I got, you know, at that time, you know,
I got a nice rookie deal, you know,
which was, I got as equivalent to like the 17th pick
even though I was a 23rd pick.
And then, of course, when, you know,
when it was time to, you know,
really get paid, you know, for,
the highest paid defense
back in the elite. I mean,
it's a production business. Exactly.
Exactly. It's a production business.
Yeah, exactly. You get paid, you get
that production. But that's funny that he
tried to ok-doke you. Oh, he tried to
go with me twice. That's the bill, okedoke-do.
Yeah, want me give you one more? Let's hear it. Okay, since
we're out there and everything gone now.
So now, now I had a
in my contract.
Do we do you shot a clock? Oh, you know what? Oh,
God damn it. Shot a clock.
Shot o'clock.
Shot o'clock.
Shot a clock.
Shot a clock.
I mean, when we're talking, Bill, you got to get a little toast.
Oh, yeah.
I'm grilled pineapple.
We got, we're about to mess with Bill a little bit.
Let's go.
We love them.
We love them.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, hell yeah.
So let's go to Bill's ass, right?
So.
It is.
We drankin' a thanking shit.
All right.
So Bill, I had a contract.
So of course, you know, he came, you know, from the Jessi, you know, and at the time, you know,
the time, I was the only person on the roster that was still in the Pete Carroll's contract.
So I signed the big deal. I was with Pete. You know, Pete really went to bat. And like I said,
I earned my shit, but I was under that contract. So you know how it is. They only can
touch your contract once. Once they touch it, you can't touch it for the rest of the year. You
know what I mean? They would try to avoid me like the place. So next to Drew, I was next. But they
would go to everybody else because they knew, you know, at the time that I don't come
mess with me about that shit.
That's not happening.
So anyway, I had a bonus in my contract where I get X amount of dollars if I come
and make weight and I had a reporting bonus.
So I had a reporting bonus.
You know, I could say it out because it's a-
You had a weight clause?
Huh?
No, that's what's part of my report was.
I got to come on time, make weight past the conditioning test.
Yeah, we all got that.
Exactly. I got a million dollars for mine, though.
Workout bonus, a million bucks.
No, that was reporting bonus.
My workout bonus was $100,000.
You know, I'll do that.
Just in case they catch you.
Just in case they catch you, they save a mill.
Yeah, yeah.
They know you could do it.
Just in just in case, they catch you slipping.
So that was going to pass the conditioning test.
I don't give a damn if I had to sit in the son of a 50 hours straight,
I'm going to get that damn bonus, you know what I mean?
But it was 100,000.
So, you know, when I came in and I got the, I came in and got my checks, you know what
at the time, you know, you got direct deposit,
but you get your receipt.
So I got one.
I'm like, where my dad?
What my other one?
My little hundred thousand at?
So, of course, you know, I go around.
They say, I go upstairs, and they say, you got to go talk to Bill.
I'm like, well, shit.
Okay.
Hey, Bill.
I'm missing a hundred thousand.
He's like, well, he said, we didn't talk this year.
I said, what are you talking about?
Because I went to Bob Kersey, you know,
the great Bob Kersey, Olympic, you know, gold medal winning coach.
I trained with him.
I never stayed in the offseason
for the program.
So, you know, I got
under my contract,
as long as it was approved
by the head coach of GM,
which it always was,
I get both checks.
So he said,
we didn't talk this year
because we talked last year
because, like I said,
he was fairly new to it,
and he approved it was fine.
So I'll just assume
it's like that every year.
Yeah.
I signed this shit when you was a jet.
You remember,
you was a jet when I signed this contract.
So when you came,
here it is, we talked.
Jet for you guys
That's a little child.
Yes, yeah, exactly.
Or young in your profession.
Exactly.
That's in Florida talk.
Yeah, exactly.
So now I comes and he sit there and like, no, I'm like, Bill, man.
All right.
So I called my financial advisor.
I was like, yo, did that million clear yet?
Oh, not yet.
So, you know, I went out, I left and I came back.
So Bill know me.
So I'm coming back in and bearish.
He was like, hey, he said he's in there.
Bill had my contract sitting on.
He had my contract.
sitting on his
laid out.
Layed out.
Highlighted.
He had the shit
highlighted
saying,
hey,
it has to be approved
of this
that of language.
I'm like,
and it was always
approved.
You was a fucking jet.
He said,
well,
Andy Wise and Chuck
is no longer
to gym
and I'm the head coach
and I say no.
So I was like,
all right,
I just took my ass
to the locker room,
got my stuff out
the thing
and I walked on out.
I were gone
for three days.
See,
it wasn't on
social media
and all that stuff.
Yeah.
So I was gone for three days, bro, and finally got the call because they got to call USA.
And this is during training camp.
But I know in training camp, you cannot find me more than $1,200 a day.
So as far, it was $1,000 a day at the time.
Yeah.
It's like $20 now.
Huh?
It's like $20,000.
Oh, yeah?
Unexcused absence.
Yeah.
So it was $1,000.
It was like, it was, no, it was $5,000.
Was it $5,000?
Yeah, it was $5,000.
So I said, as far as I'm concerned, I got 20 practices.
I'll be back on day 21 to get that $6 million salary.
I'd be back for that.
But if I'm going to lose $100,000, I'm going to lose this shit legit.
So I was gone.
You know what I mean?
So eventually, Bears called me down the phone.
Bring your ass down here.
All right.
I said, Bill, with my money.
He said, you come down here.
We talk about that shit later.
So I go.
Going to the principal's office.
No.
No, he said he calls the principal's office.
So he told me to come to go to the game because we were playing down in Washington.
So you didn't practice all.
camp? No, I was gone for three days. I left. Oh, three days. Exactly. Because guess what?
Because, get what? The million cleared. That was clear. That was in the bank. So as far as I'm
concerned, I got $100,000 right here that's out there. And to me, where I come from, that's a lot of
goddamn money. That's a lot of money anywhere. That's the kind that you don't get a financial
vise. You get him to a million, but you keep a hundred thousand yourself. You know,
do what you got to do. That's the pocket change at that time. You know, when you get,
that's a lot of money. It's a lot of money, but two things. So like I said, where I come from,
that's life changing.
So for me, I was like,
I'm not that guy.
I'm going to leave and I'll be back.
But they also had the status of who I was too,
so I knew that as well.
So do what you got to do.
So I left, he called me,
get your ass on the plane,
we go on the wall.
I think it was washing preseason.
He didn't start me.
He put me in with the goddamn scrubs,
bro.
Willie and everybody's hot dogs on the sideline,
laughing and shit.
So he puts me in.
So now all the guys on the other side,
they're really going.
You know, they're trying to make a team.
Yeah, they're trying to make a team.
Yeah, they're trying to.
I'm getting cut and all that.
I was like, man, you know,
Willie Ninh was clowning laughing, right?
So we comes back in.
Next day, had to come in on Monday.
I didn't even take my stuff off.
I was at the table eating breakfast.
Steal with my clothes on.
You know, Bill came by out with an envelope.
He sat right to me.
He's like, fucking asshole.
So I was like, open up the check.
85,000.
Dot me three days.
That's right.
Freaking Bill.
Hey, hey, but hey,
hey, that's Bill for you, though.
Bill, he docked me this fucking three days, man.
So, I mean, but we, like I said,
we got a great relationship and the respect from there,
but it was just at the time,
I wasn't the one.
I made sure that she was clear.
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Can you explain the dog?
Huh?
Can you explain the dog?
The dog is a mentality.
You know, that under any circumstances, are you going to break me?
I'm going to win.
I'm going to every play.
Even if you knock me down, I'm going to get back up.
I'm going to come at you the same full tilt all day.
And when adversity strikes, you start.
Still don't drop your head and you get that mentality that I'm going to beat you this play.
If you beat me, oh, the next play, oh, it's on.
Class eaters.
You know what I mean?
So class eaters.
That's what, like, we're looking up right there.
Kevin Garnett.
Dog.
Dog.
All time dog.
What's a mile rushmore of dogs?
Ooh, that's tough.
That's tough.
I would say, you know, okay, let's just throw out a couple from each sport.
Lawrence Taylor.
Dog.
Dog.
One that just retired.
Aaron Donald.
That is a dog.
Ray Lewis.
Dog.
Rodney Harrison.
Dog.
You know what I mean?
Because I'm telling you, I'll say Rodney Harris is supposed to be in a pro football
of fame.
No, no, no.
I'm going there.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go.
I said, okay, no.
Jimmy Smith.
Dog.
Julian Edelman.
Dog.
And not just because of, you know, I look at the journey, too.
Okay, you could make plays.
You can do all this stuff.
But to know how tough he was to be able to go out there and do that and go out there and do
what I do.
I told Troy Brown, you got me fired, dog.
Because when I got hurt, here come Troy Brown playing DB, you know,
and did some dog shit picking stuff.
He led the league, he led the team in picks, you know, you know what I mean?
So when you guys come in and do that and can do more than just your job
and you do it with so much passion and you're successful because no one expected you to be who you are.
Maybe you expected it, but when you got drafted or did you get drafted?
Yeah, seven.
Okay, you went seven round.
damn it, that's basically a free agent bullshit.
You always wish you were a free agent because you don't have to do two years.
Exactly.
They get you for four.
But no one expected you when they brought you in.
They didn't expect you to turn into the only person that can believe that is a dog
and you've got to believe in yourself because basically when you get drafted that late,
you're coming from another position.
You are basically there for a tackling dummy.
You're there for guys like somebody established like myself to beat up on.
Exactly.
So for you to make it, you know, you're a dog right there to put it out there and perform.
And then you had some of the top corners out there that didn't want to see him.
So that right there, you fit in the dog.
Tom Brady was a dog.
Because from day one, he came in there and he wanted to compete.
He going to talk shit.
And I'm telling him, we used to light him up.
But he coming right back at you as a dog going to head bunch you.
He going to fight you.
Come at you.
And he was not no punk.
And that's what, you know, then he ain't no punk.
right there. That was like a compliment. Oh, he ain't no punk. You know, nowadays it's a he ain't no bitch, but he ain't no punk. You know what I mean? So that was, Tom. I look at like receivers. Like, again, Hines Ward was a dog. He wasn't fast. He wasn't in it. But he will sit there and rock you. You know what I mean? He will blindside the shit out of you too. So you always got to keep your head on the swivel. So I look at the tough guys. Even, even, like I said, T. T.O. Randy Moss was a dog. You know what I mean? Because he was tough. Chris Carter. Michael Irvin.
he will fight you all damn day too
you know what I mean
so I look at so many tough guys
but like just skill
everybody in a dog
man
now are you born with that dog
or can you develop the dog
because I'm sitting here
looking at my seven year old daughter
and I'm seeing some of this
attitude and effort
on the field right now
yeah
and I'm like I don't know
if we got dog in her
we got puppy
you know what puppy in her
my mom told me
you know when I was younger
she said you know you used to get your ass
with you know you wasn't that tough
but you know I remember one time
that I came home grinding,
she made me go back out there and fight.
You know?
You're like, you're going to go out there
and fight, and I started development.
So, yes, you can develop a dog.
You can develop the dog.
You could be born into it, too.
That's a T-shirt.
That's a Gengen's a T-shirt, maybe.
It's a T-shirt.
That's right, baby.
I developed both times
and you get that confidence,
and then it's like when you realize
that you've got to believe in yourself,
that was my whole thing,
was always believing in myself
with no matter what,
anybody thinks. That's
what a dog is. A dog is someone
who believes in himself
no matter what the situation is. Right.
Absolutely. If the situation is against
you, if the world is against
you, right. Still
think you're going to do it. Yep. Because when you
stay ready, you ain't got
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Ty Law breaks down his iconic
Super Bowl pick six. But can you
walk us through beat for beat the pick six?
Easy one.
No, that was that was
The easiest, you know, picks, like, because I always give credit to Vrable.
You know, Vrable, you know, made him, errant throw.
It was one of those things where, you know, he did the same thing that Indy used to do
and start putting Marvin in motion.
So they put Isaac in motion so I couldn't get him at the line of scrimmage.
And it was one of those places you had to back off, you go into motion.
And you just seen it, you're coming.
Vrable got through so clean that, okay, now I'm just reading him.
And then it was an errant throw.
So I'll say, I'm going to be hesitant case Isaac.
because he had an Isaac can route.
He will route the hell out of you.
So it's like, okay, you plan for the double move?
It might be because I didn't know
because he wasn't going in motion like that until then.
So I was kind of trying to fill it out.
So what type of game is going to be?
And Vrable came in there and he whined back to throw it.
I'm like, you bullshit.
He threw it.
Come on, man.
Come on, Kurt.
You know what I mean?
And it was coming like it was slow motion.
I was sitting like, oh, this is the Super Bowl.
That's the kind of shit you drop because it's so easy.
So easy.
It's so easy, and you would drop it.
But, you know, once I got it, man, all you seen was flashes and it was like everything
would blank, you know, and, you know, it's like you hear the screens and it just went silent
and I'm running down there and just flashes and knowing that this is it, you know,
in the Super Bowl and got that pick and the rest, we rode the hell out of it.
You know what I mean?
We rode the hell of that thing, man.
What was the hand that just like?
I don't even know what I was doing.
You know, I just, I just, I just, I just threw it up.
You know what I mean?
It's something that I, I, I know, I mean, it's something that I, I, I, I don't even know.
I've never done before any of my picks or my pick six.
I didn't throw it up.
It was just something that just happened.
And I threw it up there.
And it's been an iconic picture ever since.
Now, Tylaw discusses Eric Mangini and other former Patriots coaches who left.
I think when people leave Belichick, they try to be Bill.
You know what I mean?
It's like, no, it's only one bill.
So I think even with Josh, I was there with Denver.
I can't believe the whole Spike ain't.
Exactly.
But it's like, why?
I didn't even know.
I didn't even know that.
That's Archie bunker.
But, you know, Eric, he was like, hey, I know where all the bones buried.
You know, that's what the room.
Yeah, I know with that.
So if you was doing that, which, like I said, as players, we never knew anything.
You know what I mean?
So it's like when they say this and that, like, when have you ever came in and seen another person's practice or anything?
Like, I've never experienced that.
So when people say, then, what are you talking about?
But then if Eric was to say something, if he was the one that got out,
okay Bill you know who you're playing too
you know I ain't don't do that shit
or if something is really going on like this
you can't do that on the player
on somebody that you was doing so it was dumb on both
their parts if that was the case you know what I mean
but I've never seen person have you ever seen
since you've been there have you ever seen it when it was all coming out
I've never seen nothing like that
no but I mean I was watching that that documentary
and I'm sitting there like and was there Eric wasn't on it
Manjini wasn't did the Manjini come on it
no he's been banned from football if you
noticed it. Huh? Yeah, I know he's doing
TV, but ever since he told on him,
he ain't got a job. He did have a
cameo in the Sopranos, though. That was pretty cool.
Huh? He did what? He was in the Sopranos for one episode. Is it the
Belichick defect or is someone
saying, like, I don't want that in my
building? You know what?
Yeah, you know what? I don't know
if you would say, if he got
blackball, because he had a, no, he, after he went
to jail, he went to Cleveland. Cleveland.
So they still, he still, was out there, but you got
a win, you know what I mean? And he had
didn't do that. But if you was the one that called out,
and you participated, you know, if that was anything going on.
It's like, that's hypocritical if that was the case.
Like, I'm going to keep saying that because I know people like to sound like,
I've never seen the shit.
I never, no one did.
But Belichick, you got to be a damn fool if you do that to somebody that know,
would the bones, buried in secrets and all that stuff.
But I think it's kind of like baseball.
These fools are stealing each other's signs all year long.
Yeah, that's why I tell people's like, if you see somebody with a coach doing this.
When can you ever do anything when you get the signal?
Right.
It's like you can't communicate it until the next game and things are changed anyways.
Yeah.
But I'm just still mad at Eric Banini.
That was some bullshit.
You can't be going.
The guy literally, you know, like it's kind of like, kind of like a little baby bird coming out of an egg.
Bill literally sat on your ass and hatched you.
And hatched you.
And you're going to go away from the nest.
Right.
And you're going to go try to kill.
Mama Bird?
Right.
I don't know.
I think, you know,
like I said,
if that would,
no, no, no, no, no.
If that, no,
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