Garza Podcast - 105 - PEELINGFLESH: Slam, DMT, Flat Earth & Growing Up In Oklahoma
Episode Date: November 20, 2023Garza sits down in-person with Oklahoma City, OK slam band PEELINGFLESH. https://www.orcd.co/slamaholics2 SPONSORS: distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! emgpickups.com Promo Code: Heavy 15% OFF! PEELING...FLESH is: Damonteal Harris - Vocals Mychal Soto - Guitar Jason Yung Graves Parrish - Guitar Austin Hirom - Bass Joseph Pelleter - Drums CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Joey Filled In For Ernie/Suicide Silence On Tour 04:52 - 1st Full Band Interview 06:51 - Taking Slam to a New Level 10:10 - Being From Oklahoma 12:59 - Peelingflesh Started in 2021 14:42 - Writing Songs Quickly 18:35 - Austin Being a Country/Military Boy 20:46 - Slam is Huge in Indonesia & Japan 24:19 - Peelingflesh Have Their Ear to the Ground 26:03 - Fashion Talk 30:02 - Starting Peelingflesh In a Group Chat 33:51 - Soto Becoming a Better Producer 38:15 - Slam Artwork 39:11 - Using Samples From Movies 40:47 - DJ Screw Being a Huge Inspiration, Lean 49:15 - Facing Backlash From the Metal Scene 51:05 - Growing Up In Oklahoma City 57:52 - Slamming Gangster Groove 59:06 - Tripping on DMT, Good & Bad Trips 1:07:06 - Peelingflesh Merch, Band Shout Outs 1:15:38 - Theo Von Sample 1:18:24 - What’s Missing From the Slam Scene 1:21:09 - Run-In With a Crackhead 1:24:09 - What Amps Are the Best For Modern Slam & Metal? 1:26:29 - Gear Talk, Krank Cabs 1:29:38 - Flat Earth 1:32:31 - Jay Weinberg/Slipknot Drama 1:35:07 - Touring Together Was Fun
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Perfect.
Okay.
I just realized what your band is.
Yeah.
We got it.
Yeah.
I think this podcast was a big achievement.
We learned a lot.
That's it.
Well, we've been brought up on here so many times, like, because I think people, like, recognize the fucking dumbness that we are, and they brought it up here.
Stupid.
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Killing Flesh.
In the Hewlett.
house. Are we
oh shit are we
are we live? We're good
we're rolling
good to see you guys man
yeah good to see you
it's probably been
some days
fresh with your
McDonald's
American nutrition
but why is it taste so good
but why does it taste so good
Canada don't taste like this sugar
crack GMOs
Canada tastes so much better
cross contamination I love Canada
I love cross-contamination
I love cross-contamination
But they don't have any iced tea though
Right
You don't
Not sweet tea
Canada doesn't have sweet tea
Oh you must be American
You know you like sweet tea
And I'm like
Y'all don't brew that shit outside
You ain't got a jug
In tea and sugar
They'll drive cars here
It's like yeah I'm from here
No
No all jokes aside Canada's
The best
So sick dude
Canada was awesome
Love Canada
Joey thank you for
Basically saving her out
Anytime.
Him and Brandon.
Anytime.
Yeah.
She was a little weird, but weird in the best way possible.
Literally, Ernie, I don't know what the hell.
I still don't know what he did to his back, either pinch the nerve or whatever.
Picking up something or something.
Yeah.
It's too tall.
He's too tall.
I just had Eddie walk up to me with a worried look and go,
Oh, great.
How many songs do you know?
I go, fuck.
You could tell when someone's going to, like, deliver you a certain kind of news when you see their face.
walking and be like oh great yeah he gave me this the frown and the big eyes i'm like oh
something's wrong i had heard about the ernie situation and then i saw eddie he goes
where's joe oh no and i'm always like
i didn't think anything of it because eddie was just like ernie's back is hurt and i was
like oh shit i was like man you know this one time joey learned a set two hours before we
got to california and played a set was was snuffed on so i'm not saying that for any reason
and then I walked away
and then Dee was like
damn Eddie just came out to me and goes
Where's Joey?
I was like hell yeah
That's when
That's when you know
It's slamming time
It was sick
It was fun to do some rippins once
It was full
It was fun
How was that for you?
It was weird
So like
Obviously I'm used to playing with
These three
On my strings
My lips are turning black
I was playing
And then like I would look
And for some reason
My brain would be like
I'm about to go look at Soto
And I'd see you
you just give me the fucking just the look and I'm like yeah fuck yeah yeah yeah
watching y'all too get to do the band link up yeah yeah yeah but drummer guitar player
link up from the front of house while I was watching I was just like this is a dream I was
like I'm watching this shit actually live out like the one downside of being in the band as uh
you can't watch your own band right why you play you can't you're up on stage you got to play
watching joey drum was as battles close
as we get songs that we play at practice sometimes it's like you know what does uh what does
joey sound like yeah what does he look like you don't really know yeah because like what does he
tastes like because we know all artisms connect so it's cool watching his tism connect with someone else's
he tastes like an health bar yeah i like connecting with the drummer it's fun so it's like like
look and it's like yeah yeah yeah it's like a it's like a word it's like a connection you don't
really can't like explain or just a share
It's an unspoken bond.
You might have to pass around the ashtray here.
But it is definitely an unspoken bond though.
For sure.
It is.
It's definitely an unspoken bond.
It took Ernie a while to start doing that.
Because first it was just like.
To try to focus on playing the parts perfectly.
Dude, fucking play a little bit sloppier. It's fine.
Yeah.
Look at me.
Grit at me.
Spit on me.
Pause.
Resume.
Well, do for real.
We need a pause count just ahead of time because we're about to say that shit all
throughout this fucking interview.
Yeah, we just need a pause counter.
Pause.
Pause that up.
What does that mean?
That just means slow down with what you're saying.
Okay.
You're saying some real deep shit, need to chill the fuck out.
Okay.
You know, pause.
Pause.
Rewind.
It's too much.
Well, good news is you don't got to worry about this coming out and then me editing it completely.
Are you guys...
You're getting all of artisms in this video?
I heard you guys had an interview and someone just basically edited out all the great parts.
Hold on. Hold on.
Pause.
This is the first five.
person peeling interview. Really? Yeah. Because the other ones we kept having to swap out when we were all there, but this is the first one we're actually all in the picture and they're gonna keep all the stupid shit that we said in between the actual questions. That makes it good. Yeah, how do we copy and paste these two out?
War me. This is our first and last five person. Yes. Well, people don't really understand because they'll ask you if like a picture, but it's hard to wrangle five people.
into one kind of area, it's hard.
Someone's out getting McDonald's,
the other person's at the bar,
so on the person's passed out high in the van.
Think about your 9 to 5.
People's 9 to 5.
You know, you can't get,
imagine how to fucking get a team meeting over here.
Probably not a team meeting
at my job in like two years.
I love that.
People are like, can I get a picture
with the whole band?
I'm like, oh, fuck.
Yeah, just meet us by our van
while we're loading in or something.
I don't know where we're all going to be together.
You know where they at?
Yeah, right.
You know where they are?
I haven't seen them.
I haven't seen them.
Guarantee Soto's shitting
Soto's probably shitting.
Someone's probably taking a shit.
You know what? I might never see him again.
No, that's Soto for sure.
Yeah. Soto for sure.
I got the diver ticcimolitis.
He'd be venturing to other dimensions to shit.
You got to say, I need an intestinotomy.
Spell that shit.
Oh my goodness.
Spell that shit out.
Dude, you guys are taking slam to a whole new level.
We're trying.
It's cool.
Trying to shove it in people's living rooms, lokey.
Yeah.
Well, you're doing a great job.
Trying to get on BET.
Thank you.
Trying to bridge it.
Thank you.
Trying to bridge all the...
Trying to get on Zeus.
All the hardcore, all the death metal.
All the...
Like, I know metalcore kids that haven't even ever listened to Slam.
They're like, yeah, I love peeling flesh.
Right.
Everybody loves Slam.
They just don't fucking know it.
It sucks.
Literally.
Everybody likes that one slam rift out of the whole song of like a death metal band or a death core band.
Head bingers, bull.
Head bingers bull.
Yeah.
Try to get on, bring the sleeves to the head biggest bull.
Yeah. And pause.
Okay, got it.
Okay, so, Soto, you have, so you actually personally have met with the Slam gods.
And what did the Slam God tell you?
They said, find that lanky bastard, Joey.
He going to do you right.
And I said, nah.
And it was like, no, for real.
He was like superior drummer in a human.
And I was like, nah.
And then I met him.
And I was like, holy shit.
This kid is like no other fucking slam drummer in the world.
Well, what's funny, though, is I wasn't even.
Even that, like, you take 27, 2018 me compared to now.
Yeah.
I'm a piece of shit back then.
Yeah, but that's not what matters.
The talent isn't what matters.
What matters is the feel, the groove,
and the ability to not give a shit about rules
and just playing what comes to your mind without worrying about, like,
oh, this don't fit, this don't fit.
Who gives a fuck? Play it.
Software updates.
Software update.
You are the head updater.
Pause.
Mad pause, but
I'm the handyman
I'd be watching his
Alright so we was just talking about you filling in
We were all just like
Oh let's hurry and get in the venue
Let's do our thing blah blah blah let's work
We clocked in blah blah blah we found out about
Ernie's back and then we watched
The fucking CPU start clicking
And Joey's brain when it was like
Yo can you fill in on a few songs
He was like in the mode
Boom the whole world didn't fucking matter
On button right that man was in that
room with those songs and was
like, I'm about to give this my
fucking everything. And I watched, by the
front of house, watch him learn
some songs, like, in the back
and then went to front of house and then he fucking
kills the songs on stage.
And I was just like, that is
exactly the kind of person I didn't know it was possible.
Like, I didn't, like,
I come from, we all come from Oklahoma.
Nobody from Slam gets
popular in Oklahoma.
So it's like, everything's kind of new.
But like, we're trying to
We're trying to do the thing.
Sorry, I've got to pass the weed.
That's fine.
I'm not sure this is disrespectful or not,
but we could use this as as a stray as well.
Can I hit that really?
Yeah, sure.
That's kind of quiet.
I love singing bowls.
Is that disrespectful?
We use that as an ashtray?
I don't think so.
I mean...
Not to find out.
Oh, no, no.
You got to hold it like this and let it reverberate.
And then swing that thing around the outside of it.
Yeah.
Outside.
Outside?
Yeah.
Swing that.
thing be thanging you feel me but it's very particular shit's paging the ass I still
can't do it I still can't do it right so you guys are from Oklahoma City but you come from Tulsa
I'm from Toll I live in Tulsa by hour 40 out right yeah okay cool hour 20 if you speed yeah
which you guys are speeding no no you guys are 25 db a bs per minute slower so nine days
if you're driving after a run that shit is long that's like the last four hours of
of your drive. We got a drive there and back.
And that shit is just like
for that last bit. Nobody's
in the car. She's just you driving D. Home and D's
just like, listen to some Death Corps.
Oh my goodness. Really fucking loud.
Smoked mad weed and just
punish this drive out.
What are you guys jamming? Oh, everything.
Myspace Death Corps. Yeah, he's been showing
me a lot of MySpace Death Corps. Like, O.G., O.G. shit.
Nice. Straight up.
Too deep in the trenches.
Right.
What was that? Her demise, My Rise.
Her demise, My Rums.
On solid ground
On solid ground
That show was crazy
On solid ground
I never heard it
At that band
On solid ground
On solid ground
On solid ground
Self title BP
He's got those
He's got those
Snuffed on site
Inhales
Yeah
That's who
Seven said
The thing
He was like
Yeah
I just sound like that guy
I'm like what
I was like
Yeah
But like in a different way
He's like
No I'm just trying to sound
like that guy
Parasitic
Ejaculation
Those fools
Where they from
Also shout out
Oh solid ground
Old ass band
Yeah, that's like, what, 07?
But shout out home.
Shout out backroom.
Shout out sledge.
Shout out inside you.
Shout out everybody, I'm forgetting.
Shout out the...
Shout out all the...
Shout out all the wives for holding it down.
So, so...
Saddle all the babies and babies.
So bands from your era tend not to basically do what you guys just did.
Not in slam.
Not really in Oklahoma either.
Not...
It just doesn't happen very often.
Well, we have death metal dance.
Like, Broken Flesh was like the heaviest
fucking thing in Oklahoma for like
a really, really long time.
And like, we weren't trying to like take that
torch or anything. We just doing our own version
and just doing Slam. You know what I mean?
But like Slam for some reason
just got everybody's attention because they just
remembered everybody loves Slam.
If you like a groove and a beat, you like Slam.
You got to remind people.
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
And grooves are undeniable.
Bro, Chelsea Grain has
slams on this tour. Suicide
silence had fucking slams on this tour. Everybody
had slams. I am had slams. That's four versions
of head music. They're just hidden. Hidden, that's it.
They're just, they're just hidden within the layers
of the music. Like, I can always tell when a band
has members that listen to slam in some way or shape or form, which I know,
like, specifically Dan loves all his brutal and slam and shit like that.
Shout out Dan Kinney. Yeah, he told me about you guys.
Can Denny. Bless that man's heart.
And your band formed in.
2021 and it's pretty remarkable what you guys have done into some matter of two years
two and a half is fucking crazy ish that is wild yeah well i mean we worked our ass off
obviously there's obviously it appeared like before that yeah we all you know in our own right
me and joey at one time and then me joey and austin and d was doing his own thing and jason was
doing his own thing, you know,
but we just eventually just
randomly ended
it up like, yo, you fuck with Slam.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sick.
And then we got mad high
and wrote Slamopholics.
Oh my goodness. I'm pretty sure we got
Austin contact on accident.
I'm pretty sure, if I'm not mistaken,
Slamaholics Volume 1 literally had no
we weren't.
When we wrote that, we weren't like, okay,
we're going to do this, we're going to tour, we're going to be a
touring band.
We're going to play shows.
This was literally like, we're going to just release this on the internet.
It's fire.
And let's see what happens.
We're going to do the most unmarketing music possible.
We started going.
Like, we're going to write the most unmarketable, most.
We're running what we want to write in like the most, like, 100% all the way.
Like, the stupidity, all the fucking dumbass samples, all the rap beats and shit.
Like that's.
Because everybody just.
makes you think that you can't do that.
Like, I mean, because you've seen it done
so many times in a fucking terrible
fucking way. I'm selling interludes.
You look like a guy
who's fucking interludes. You look like a guy who's
fucking interludes. Oh man, the last month
has been amazing. Oh my goodness.
And Joe, you have been called
the fountain of slam riffs.
Yes, it is. Is this true?
Yeah, I do dabble.
Him and Jason are just pouring from them. They're just
seeping. Him and Jason are a pair of mountains.
pause, but him and Jason
are a pair of mountains of slam just overflowing
and shit, you know what I'm saying? When we
wrote the winter mixtape,
the winter promo, did you literally write another
one? That was three minutes, or three songs
that me and Jason probably took
what, two and a half hours
to write three songs? The split?
Same thing with the split. It was literally like
I programmed a song of drums,
he ripped over it, fire. I was like, okay, let's
do that again. I programmed just a hold on the whole song
of drums, he ripped over it, fire.
And we did three songs like that.
came the winner promo.
And then when we did the
Putrid Stu split with like Cody
and shit like that, that was
two hours, an hour of song.
What? Yeah. I mean,
super quick, super easy.
Just lock them in a room. Just lock them in a room. They just
fuck it out. Yeah. Let me just go ahead and say
Volume 3 is already written.
And we're
working on,
should I say the PF Radio
thing?
Put your bourbons in the air.
Go for it.
Put your bourbons in the air.
Rich and die hard.
Get rich and die hard.
That's right.
So are you entering the scenario or the room with no riffs in mind or you're just starting
completely fresh?
Or do you have like a riff kind of?
Got slams in mind.
Usually when me and Jason go in, it's usually completely fresh.
It's got to be fresh.
He knows how to play drums too.
Like he can conceptualize drums the way I do.
He can't like, obviously play it on the kid just because he hasn't practiced on it.
But he knows what I can, what needs to be played on certain riffs.
the exact same way I do.
So it's just,
nah, nah, nah, nah, and then just song done.
30 minutes, yeah.
Bam, bam, bam.
So even for you, for you, Jason,
like there's no rip kind of plan.
You're just kind of, we're just going to...
But you always kind of got rich, don't you?
I mean, I'll be at the house.
So I'll make beats too, you know.
So I'll be at the house and I'll be bored.
Like, if I make too many beats,
I'll switch to, like, metal.
And so I'll make demos, so we'll have some sometimes.
Thank you.
But usually, like, if it's me and Joey...
I don't give him demos
Yeah, you have been. God damn.
But like, we're riding the full length right now, and there's like a lot done already.
We just got to go back and re-record shit.
But usually it's just like, if it's me and Joey, I'm like, I already know.
It's going to be fresh.
Yeah.
The best stuff is fresh, honestly.
It's that...
Like human pudding.
Right.
That's just...
Human pudding.
I mean, we have tons of demos.
We have tons of demos that, like...
It's not that...
that we didn't want to use them.
It's just that every time we got together,
it was fresh.
So it was just like every time we got together,
we'd write some fresh shit
that was just felt next level.
And sometimes that next level
just feels next level than everything else
you've done before.
But it's just, that's it.
That's all we're doing
is just trying to top ourselves.
But every aspect,
D is always trying to fucking top the fucking vocals
and like, you know,
us live as a unit,
D is always trying to top the vocals.
D or Austin is always trying to fucking
hurt people with his bass tone.
know what I'm saying?
Joey's trying to punish people
with his blast beats and shit.
Like, that's just what we want to,
we wanted to just be next level
of what we've done last time.
Can we get a Soto hand cam?
I want to see, like, everything.
Oh, you're talking about my tism hand, bro?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that, when this shit have to do
slam here, slam here, slam there.
Slam here.
There's slam here.
Got to do it.
But we'll put a slam right here.
It's either that or a jogging place.
What the fuck on?
Which one you want?
No, jog in place right now.
Oh, bro.
We need a pause count.
Is someone keeping track?
No.
Jesus is.
I think we're about six right now.
He is.
At least 19.
And Austin, you came from, so you originally got into country first, and then Slam came after.
Yeah, I grew up listening to shit like Diamond Rio.
And then my first ever metal band was Cradle of Filth whenever I listened to, what was it, Nemesis, soft nymphenamine.
dude that's his own is fucking sick
yeah
that's amazing
yeah
real oklahoma shit
yeah
good old country town
yeah we come from country towns
both of us
like from like mad country towns
like his town is like mad country
one of the first shows that like I ever went
hung out with him at though was in that town
at his going away party
party
that shit that was detrimental to like me feeling comfortable in Oklahoma City
was that party
because that was that was aberrant before
was aber in. Yeah, it was just us chilling
in the crowd watching
Gravewalker, right?
Yeah. Yeah. Damn.
Well, things turned out pretty sick. I mean, you always went to
the Navy, right? Yeah, for
what was it? Four and a half, five years.
That was a
experience. I was actually at Camp Pendleton
for a while. Really? Yeah. Oh,
shit. How was that?
Right near the beach. I
always loved dealing with the Marine Corps way
more than the Navy.
There's just so much
easier, they're like, oh, well, it has to be done, do it this way.
And then the Navy was like, oh, well, here's a whole,
here's a bowl of soup, eat it with a fork.
Fire.
It was fucked. How do you do that?
You throw the bowl at the fucking drill sergeant.
And then you jump off a cliff.
And just don't ever do it.
Japan, though, you did get to go to Japan.
Yeah, yeah, I lived in Japan for two years.
That was worth it.
Sick.
Damn. Barometer's worth it.
Cars are worth it. It's the endgame.
Retire and go to Japan.
Retire and go to Japan.
Take our whole families and Viya Mountain in Japan.
It's a beautiful place, man.
Never been.
Never been.
And build a fucking castle.
I'm trying to go so hard.
Well, it's the only matter.
I build a castle dog.
Okay, castle, live in Japan.
Yep, live on Slam Mountain.
Slam Mountain.
Yeah, yep.
We're all going there now.
Well, it's just a matter of time for you guys
because apparently what you have all taught me
is that apparently, like, Slam is really gaining attraction
in like the Asian territories.
Yeah, if you ask me, best slam will come from...
Oh, fuck, yeah.
Indonesia and Indonesia.
Like, Japan and Indonesia.
Anything that corridor of the fucking planet is hard.
Yeah.
I think it has something to do with the dirt
that they have to set their gear up on.
It's like magical, bro.
And it usually has.
Jungle slam, bro.
Like, Nile, but...
God.
Real.
You know what I mean?
National Geographic metal.
And it usually has Larry Wang involved.
Love you, Larry.
Shout out Ligger Wing.
We need a Ligger Wing count.
Oh, shit, sorry.
I'm good.
So,
Wayne count.
Okay, so obviously
we're talking that territory.
So what are some bands?
Fuck.
Turbidity.
Turbidity.
Needle contaminated.
Corvent.
Tampicopede.
My man's.
Glossectomy.
Glossectomy.
Disconformity.
Yes, sir.
Gorvent.
Gorvent.
Rosted is no main.
Yeah.
From there.
Is he?
Yeah.
Wait a minute.
That's my boy.
Is he?
That is the man right there.
Oh, shit.
I totally forgot there's a fucking TV.
bro. Yeah, that picture right there on the top left.
God. That is amazing.
And the one below it, though. And the one below it.
He's also works for, like, Cheyenne
tattoo company, too. So he's, like, just
mega tattoos. Yeah, he's a mad
sick tattoo artist. And he's always around
mad sick tattoo artist.
Hmm. Look at him. Look, there's Clay.
Oh, my. I love you, Clay.
Yeah, shut out. I know. You probably, you
listen to this. I love you. Oh, bro.
Nick Hill, Tal Walker.
I fuck that up. Damn it. He's going to kill me.
Hey, yo.
It's a strong scene.
The world needs to know about bludgeon's.
Yeah.
Shout out, bludgeon.
Yeah, I obviously know about John Huber,
but it's time to get to know everybody in that band
and them as a fucking unit, like, all four of them.
Like, phenomenal band.
Bro, two days so far, and I'm like,
brutal death.
Yes.
This is, like, what I haven't listened to in a month and a half,
like, live yet.
That's who our, uh, the last three days we're playing.
Is that's who we're playing with bludgeon?
Bludgeon kicks ass.
So they're sick?
Hell yeah, bro.
Yeah. If only we had like a long form where we could actually listen to songs and shit, like that'd be, that'd be a cool-ass type interview where you hang out with people and just fucking listen to Riffs.
Not with us.
I thought that's what we did every time we invaded the suicide silence bus just came with the JBL speaker.
Blast and slam.
Everybody goes from, holy shit, what is this?
It'll go from riffs to slow down circus music real quick.
That good shit right here.
Well, this is a band called this.
Sean hit me up one time
And he was just like hey man
He was like
You know I'm a big fan blah blah
And he was like I want to have you
See about having you mix a song for me
And I was like yeah
And so it was bludgeoned
And then I realized what I had in my hands
And like like what it meant
To people who gave a fuck like me
So it was like
I felt like I had gold in my hands
But I got to mix that shit
And he was like
I was like who's this on vocals
And he was like John Uber
And I was like oh my love
word. I was like, do you know who
Johnny?
No, but you know what I mean
just excitement, you know, that
getting to work with somebody that
I deem a fucking legend, all of us
deem a legend, and somebody
that we respect very highly.
And that dude is
a madman. We've seen him beat the shit
out of some stages just the last two days.
I'm about to see what he's going to do tonight.
Were they from? Washington.
Washington. Washington.
Washington. Like Tacoma?
Oh, okay.
Yeah. Yeah. We were
up there huh yeah yeah what people don't know about about your band is that you
you all have literally like your ear your face entire body on like the whole
slam scene oh yeah yeah like you guys you guys just start naming our bands and you guys
just go yeah we're trying to pay attention because not because it's fresh but
because it's it's it's we get to see slam evolve in real time yeah if you're not
paying attention to it evolving then
you're a poser
you're a mad poser
I only listen to shit slam
honestly
if you don't listen to slam
and only listen to rap
like that's okay
you know what I mean
for some reason
that somehow that works
it's not okay
it's not
the same way it's not okay
because you could go to a slam show
and still understand it
the same way
I mean we've had plenty of people
that literally only listen to rap
of literally never listen to metal
and they're like yeah I fuck with that
like I get it
change people's minds.
Brainwashing.
That's what the suicide sign story was a lot of,
see a lot of people being like,
holy shit,
I get it.
Who the fuck are you?
I get slam.
People got to see you guys.
Yeah.
It's like,
it's the whole idea.
Like the band name to like the imagery.
Shirts that I don't even know how you pull off.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
It works.
It just works.
We don't think it'll pull off.
But we're just doing the same thing
that we would do at home for our 15 fucking friends.
Literally, that's it.
Like, we go just as hard at home.
We go just as fast at home.
All the dummy shirt designs.
Like, everything that we do that you see us do,
like, seen us do on the suicide silence run.
That's what we, that's us.
Flea market designs, bro.
That's because we hit the flea market on Sundays, bro.
Shout out old pair's fucking flea market, dog.
That goodwill merch.
And 405 spot.
405 spot, bro.
That's where we go when we need to buy some really good,
fucking threads. When me and Jason get paid
that's where we go and blow our money.
I'm a Burlington's.
My man.
There you go. Ross to.
Yo, shout out Ross.
If you are a band and not
annually hitting up Burlington's
Ross's
Walmart's. Fucking city trends
on tour, then
you're missing out on. Cheaping out. Cheap socks,
cheap underwear.
Cheap so. There it is.
Shout out Rush Hour. It looks like that all the time.
That's exactly what it looked like.
That is exactly my life.
That looks like your fucking van.
I found one Air Force won one time and searched the whole store and never found the other one.
And I was like, fuck, man, it's my size.
If it's gone and you're...
$30.00 pair of Air Force's.
Yeah.
$39.99.
$39.
So the shirt concepts come from just you guys, but like you guys.
That makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
We're totally just...
Oh, my goodness.
The I'm fucking gay shirt.
We're fucking gay.
Mad gay, bro.
And I'll fight you in the street.
about being gay.
But how do you get away with that, though?
I don't know.
All my homie's gay, bro.
What the fuck you mean?
It's like, we live in the middle of a gay neighborhood.
Pretty much all of our significant others are all gay.
Right.
They're also, they're all some form of gay.
We are the minority if we were chose to be straight.
That's home, bro.
So yeah, we just be, it mostly like is group chat shit.
Someone will say like some dumb ass shit in the group chat and they're like,
put that on a shirt.
That's the Friday shirt
The Friday shirt
That was literally just like
Yo we need to put that scene on Friday where they're like
I had one on the way up the stairs
Homo's and slams on the back
That's hard as fuck
I don't know
I don't just see the laughter in this
That could be a hit
And this is how shirts get made
This is how we make shirts
Yeah so but this is basically like this is like your
All that one dude
I fuck the best shit
Zoom into that
Zoom into it
Look at this
Wildness
My good
Okay Austin
I want to need to ask you to read
Or so does someone
Someone read that
All right it says
I got it
No
That's got to be Jason
Frosty
Little Pee BVee Mae
I flocked the basis
Peely flesh for clout
And all I got was this
D shirt
Oh my goodness
Bulls
Yeah but
But usually that would just be
Like a text
Funny or all laughing
but then it ends there.
You guys, you know what?
No, we got to make it.
We got to make it immortal.
We got to make it immortal.
It's the habitual line crossing.
Habitual line step up.
I'm a bitch.
I'm a bitch.
He said,
who the fuck you call him a bitch?
It's a Martin, right?
It's crazy because I think people can subconsciously sense that it's truly you.
Right.
Yeah.
You can't fake that shit.
The genuiless.
That probably would let us get away with a lot of things.
Damn me.
If we try to pretend, that would be the weirdest shit ever.
You know what type it is.
Oh, shit.
Oh, damn it.
What number is that, dude?
Four.
Three.
Three.
Oh, my goodness.
It's like seven in Austin and Jason time.
Yeah.
So you...
I'm more trying to answer, like, a serious question.
Oh, sick.
Last three days, Jason has had this thing.
Autism. Aneurism.
So Jason's laughed like a...
fucking Hong Kong foodie-ass fucking...
He just laughs like this.
Instead of laughing regularly, that's just what he does with the silence.
Sick.
So basically, like, your band started as a group chat.
Yep.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you sort of was in a honeymoon in Hawaii,
then you hit him up, correct?
Yeah, what happened is me and Joe were in other bands.
Funny story.
Went on tour.
Then we found out we were the guys in our band who liked Slam.
So we were like, that's crazy.
We're getting back to Oklahoma.
We're getting a cracking.
And he was like, yeah, I got this dude named Soto.
You know, I was like, oh, yeah, he's a producer up in O K-C.
I'm a deucer.
He's a deucer.
You heard of me?
Me and Soto always wrote Slam on the side, whether it was even recorded, whether it was just us just jamming.
We learned a lot from each other.
Yeah, that's how we did our thing.
We learned how to record and just write in the room.
I think the first thing, first thing I ever came was for that loathing existence.
track. That one never
It'll ever come out. That's what they
were doing. There's no relief. That was
no relief. God. That was seven years ago today.
Yesterday.
Yeah, hit him up on the honeymoon.
So they heard you that guy
who does that thing. He said, let me get married real quick.
And I got you. And I was like,
that's cap. I was on the airplane on my way back and I used
the Wi-Fi on the airplane to message him like,
yo, you still trying to do some shit?
Like I literally saw like the honeymoon
pictures on Facebook.
And I was like, all right, any day now.
And he messes me like, hey, trying to do that thing.
It's funny how it worked, because we were all in different bands,
and then we were all out of bands at the same time.
So I was like perfectly...
Stars alive.
What's funny is with me and Jason is he was in Omen,
and then Skyler wanted to kick him out of Omen and was like...
Soto, take Jason, bro.
He needs to do slam with you, bro.
He doesn't want a tourer, bro.
Come on, bro, please, bro.
I don't think that happened, though.
No, that really actually legitimately though.
I don't think.
He was like, come on, bro.
And I was like, no.
I was in an omen, and I was, like, just trying to make slam.
Right.
That's what he was saying.
That's what he was saying was for me to make slam.
But, yeah, that was, like, steady trying to make slam.
And then, just heavy stuff, brutal.
I met Joey and Evan.
Shout out, Evan.
Yep, shout out.
Shout out.
Shout out.
Shout out.
Bashed in.
That's a topic.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
I met them and went to their house
and we made a track for loathing.
And then from there, it was like,
we instantly clicked that first night.
It was easy.
I already knew.
I was like, yeah, this is like,
you know when you meet you, like, you're the guitarist,
so you know, like when you meet your drummer
and you're like, this is going to work.
Boom, you know.
Yeah, that was it.
It takes like a moment.
Chemistry.
Yeah.
Instant connection.
You feel chemistry.
Yeah.
Chemistry is a good word.
It's two wild-ass chemicals that could start a fire coming together.
A big thing I like about a lot of good drummers,
like, especially, like, just ones that are, like, in, like, all the bigger bands is, like,
I know I can, I mean, I can do my best, but, like, being good chemistry with other musicians
without having to play with them.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a big thing, you know?
It's a big thing.
Like, going up having to fill in for y'all without being awkward and making it not sound good,
you know, like something like that.
Like, I'm going there and fucking do my shit.
You know, and try to...
We were the people that...
Add nuances of things from other people that will influence, you know.
For some reason, we...
Everybody just had this unspoken, prideful thing about them of, like...
You want to tap that out on in the end?
I'm gonna tap that out of me.
I forgot to have moonrock in it. I'm stoned.
Oh, my goodness.
Bro, can we put that out, though?
We're killing these two people.
I'm fine.
Y'all want to hit this?
Ha!
Oh, my goodness.
That purred keep me up.
Sweet.
Huh?
Huh?
Woke up, popped the perk dirty,
got straight to fuck it.
Also what you did that you stepped up,
it sounds simple, but just a lot of bands don't do.
It's like you really stepped up, like, the production level.
It seemed like you kind of knew, like, this has to sound good.
I'm gonna call him out.
Soto used to be the most trash producer in Oklahoma.
He was ass.
Intentionally.
I need that to be known.
I need that to be known.
That shit was intentional, dog.
And I believe it, because out of nowhere, he was just good.
nothing. That piss was digital.
The piss was digital.
That's how I met Soto
was when I was
in Oman. He was the first band that
we were
the first band that he recorded.
Yep. First EP.
When I decided to turn it into a business
and I was like, okay, I'm going to try
to record other people
and try to like give them something that they
can release and do their thing with.
And that's how we met. He had long hair,
kind of chunky.
Showed up in a fucking Mercedes-Benz fucking
Nazi tank looking fucking
Mercedes that took like 97 octane gas.
I had that bitch for three weeks. That's why.
Yeah, that shit was a fucking beast.
Came over with his Ivanese Gio,
sat down, we didn't really say shit to each other for like the first
45 minutes, but wasn't awkward.
So we just sat in silence and then he goes,
John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John,
oh, there it is.
And I was like, what the fuck?
I saw the, uh, when went to his house,
the first thing I noticed was the flag of the,
the Abominable Putridity for, like,
And fucking...
What you know about slam?
Right.
And I said,
What the fuck you know about slam?
But he was like,
no, no, no, for a for it.
The fuck you know about slam?
And I was like, nah, no.
There's one night.
We went to, I think we went to like
89 to go to a show in the cutlass.
Yep.
Or something.
I remember us right around the cutlass
and that's when I showed him
like Indonesian slam and shit.
And he's like, what the fuck is this?
And then we stayed in contact for like,
we talked to each other for like three days straight
of just sending links back to it forth to each other.
Like, I was at work and he goes,
you ever heard of Gorvent?
and I was like, nah, he goes, what the fuck?
How to fucking say you know Slam,
but you don't listen to fucking Gourvent.
It's exact words.
And then he showed me the album with the torso with the barbed wire.
Yep.
That's, uh, I don't even remember.
It's just, but I heard that.
What's it called, Joe, you know.
What, the GORVET?
GORVent.
Insert Slam name here.
G-O-R-V-V-E.
Slam scam.
Yes, but that's right, though, like that.
G-R-V-V-V-O-V-O-S.
Oh, shit, shout out this weed.
That the fucking basis from after the burial gave us last night
I tried to chase this man down through the whole fucking venue and he was gone
I just found this in my pocket I need to add this to collection
Gorghumit
That's what's up yeah I don't remember what that album was called but it's it's a pinnacle like pinnacle slash
Yo shout out reputation yeah so we we don't know any of the record
I don't I don't like uh I don't remember
there it's on Spotify like it's on Japanese slam scram
Like this literally looks like something I would click.
I'd probably pay for it too.
Dude, whose idea was it to do the scale?
That shit's dope.
Oh, shit.
That's a great idea.
Was that untow for sure?
That was my idea. I'm pretty sure.
Abnormal exaggeration, that's what it's called.
Yep.
I knew it started with that idea.
I just couldn't remember.
Abnormal exaggeration.
Yeah.
That one, but listen, what's detrimental, though, is the split,
the worldwide slam-aside split that they did.
Crepitation
Look at that
You can't show that
You can't show that
Just know where you can show that
Slam art be like
No I hope people take a note
Just a shock value
Slam art, gold
Like people went crazy
Over the human pudding cover
Yeah
That's so tame for a slam cover
Very silent
Yeah for real
It's actually the opposite
Yeah we did that as like a homage
To slam
Like here
Here's our one fucked up cover
Like in that sense
But a lot of the slam covers
No, let me just go in
Say we didn't really have a say so either
With the female body parts in the background of that artwork
That was just something that was sent to us
We were just like, yeah
That's fine
Next time we're changing that
If only it could have been dicks
Yeah, because we would have preferred men
Getting their asses chopped up
Oh my goodness
Pause like slamplation
Like the slamplation artwork
Let's talk about that
Let's talk about slam artwork
Let's so fucking boring now
Corny
Mad fucking corny dog
Corny.
Yeah.
Corny.
Like,
I'm not talking shit on my homies bands.
I need y'all to understand that.
We did that one as a reverse.
Had the girls fucking up the dude.
You know,
women.
Now,
have the girls fucking up that was for.
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
It's cool.
It holds its place.
You know,
you got those album covers
like from back in the day.
If you are still making
those same corny-ass,
misogynistic.
You're not evolving.
It's,
in 20-23.
Evolve, you dumb ass.
grow up
grow up
take the garbage out front son
take the garbage out front son
but that's why
like we used
we started using
like the rap album covers
that's why it's good
yeah
all down for a gory
album cover
don't get me wrong
you're fucking up
somebody on a shirt
or albums
that's hard
but
is he pulling up
the fucking
all right let's go ahead
and break up
also
the reason why
for samples also
is because
Because one thing we have figured out is half of our language that we speak to each other.
References.
When there's something that is said, we usually respond with a fucking movie sample.
Like Bumblebee from Transformers.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Can you slow it down?
Hit the playback speed.
Where's the mouse?
Do it.
All right now back up five seconds right before he says it.
We literally talk in sound clips to each other.
Yeah.
Playback speed.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
Go to 70.
Half.
Half.
Yeah, not hit play.
My God.
This is peeling flush.
Right here.
Okay.
I just realized what your band is.
Yeah.
We got it.
I think this podcast was a big achievement.
We learned a lot.
Well, we've been brought up on here so many times, like, because I think people, like, recognize the fucking dumbness that we are, and they brought it up here.
It's just stupid.
Now we finally get to, like, show fucking Garza's fucking crowd.
stupid we are
You guys are always slowing shit down
It's gotta be slowed down
DJ screw told us
If it's slowed down
It's better
No, Joe
So that's where we got that from
That's just a piece
That's just a station piece
It's just gonna
I'm just gonna pick this up
Shout out to Jivel
I wish
Hello
So do
You're from Houston right
No I'm from Oklahoma
But I lived in Houston
For a little bit
Yeah
I lived there
And I was bathed
in culture and then I was moved and then back to the country.
Jesus Christ.
Because you talk about like 3-6 mafia a lot.
You talk about DJ Screw and so that the whole slowdown thing,
that's where you got it from.
Oh yeah, because all three of us, all three of us like we love slow down music because of like DJ Screw shit.
It's so, it's so sad.
So he died of overdose, correct, when he was 29?
He died from hard conditions because of all the lean that he drank.
Oh.
But I mean, that's some real ass shit.
Yeah, shout out DJ's crew.
I mean, he said, fuck y'all.
So they say, I don't know.
Conspiracy theory.
A life in slow revolution.
Yeah.
I try to slow everything down as a child because of that he was like,
I was like, oh, he did it with a record player.
And my dad would get pissed because I'd fucking slow down.
Fucking up the records.
Yeah.
And he'd be like, why are you doing this?
Oh, you're right, yeah.
From cop syrup.
Yep.
To full-bone fever.
Wow.
That's crazy.
My dad's on the screen right now.
He's only 29, huh?
Yeah.
He was, yeah.
Fuck, so sad, dude.
Wow.
He was chosen to come here and leave a legacy and leave when he did because he has a legacy now.
Nobody can tarnish that man's fucking legacy.
That's used to.
Because I was a child getting fucking cassettes from garage sales and shit of handwritten DJ screw mix tapes that were sold from the screw shop that they sold.
But people bought so many of them where they were handed out so much that people ended up like just giving them out.
We're selling them at garage sales
And that's how I figured out
About DJ Screwed
That was my second tattoo
It was a screw tattoo
My mom's corny ass ex-boyfriend
Used to listen to a lot of screw
You shout out corny ex-boyfriend
He was from Houston
Can you hit that picture
With the ESG
That should look hilarious
I'm trying to see that
Which one?
Right there, right there, yeah
Jesus
I love ESG, bro
That's the lead
That's the lead
Okay
I never
The way he's looking at it
like that? That's why they died from
me.
Fuck.
That's why. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Yeah, but you see those diamonds
in his teeth, though? He got the money to do that.
That's fine. Hey, he had enough
money to pay his own way out. Just 25 years
off his life. Sorry. I'm not ESG, though. He's still
alive. What is? Oh, yeah.
So what is it? I mean,
I never drank that. I mean, what does that make
you feel like? It slows you down.
It's an opium. We used to dip that shit
or dip our blunts in that shit when we were
teenagers. Are you serious? Hell yeah.
bro, that shit will fuck you up.
It's like...
They compare...
Everybody's...
It's like liquid heroin
pretty much.
It's just a downer.
It just makes you
just down, sloppy,
just...
Robo tripping.
Yeah, I just thought of something, though.
It's hood.
Listen, robo-tripping.
Crowbar on lean...
Slowest brain activity.
This needs to be an
Atlanta commercial for lean.
Walk commercial.
So is it
is it also like the amount
that you're consuming.
Yeah.
See how it's mixed.
What it is is you take the sprite, you put the lien in.
The amount of lean that you put in it changes the color
and the richness of the sprite.
This is like when they showed you how to make crack on telling us.
Oh, my goodness.
If you see one a lighter color, you know, they broke.
They can't put a whole bunch of lean in there.
But if you see that dark, dark purple sprite, you know they got purple stuff.
Look at that.
That needs to be sold.
McLean?
My God, is unfucked.
I hate this, because I was like, yeah.
Can that be the thumbnail?
Does that come in a kid's meal?
Okay, next shirt needs to be a white shirt.
Mickleen.
Yeah, I'm pushing for some white shirts.
People don't really like white shirts.
They always stick around for a while, but I'm down for it.
They sell.
I mean, sometimes they don't, but sometimes they do.
They just get dirty.
They get dirty fast.
Our very first shirt was a white shirt.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
The classic.
Yeah, the bathtub execution
Dude, that might be cool, yeah
Look at that, bro
That's fucked up
We just haven't gone off
Somebody put the bags in here
It's purple of course
Actually speaking on the white shirt
I think the dirty shirt
Might be a trend
Because we ordered
Not just this one
But the last tour
We ordered
Some kind of brown dye
On a white shirt
Because it looked cool
On like the picture
But when we got them in person
We're like
It looked like a fucking dirty-ass shirt
It looked exactly
People were buying it though
That's shit
It looks like a dirty-ass shirt.
Once dirty, it always looked dirty, so it never gets dirty.
There's a market.
There's a market.
I think it's in other countries, but there's a market.
People will buy, like, you shit for, like, expensive, like, a lot.
Quote, unquote, vintage.
Right, right, right.
Vintage.
But it's, like, shit that's actually been worn and, like, trashed.
But they'll, like, buy it for a lot.
I'm like, oh.
Yeah, easy making his money somehow.
Weird.
I have one more question about Lean.
So since it, from what the internet has saying,
it slows down brain function, okay?
But I just don't get how, does that help you write music?
Is that like a...
No, it just puts you in a mood.
For them, it makes sense because they was listening to rap.
Normal speed.
And they were like, damn, what if this rap was the same speed as us?
if you put on some screw
that's like that would be the best way to
explain it
it's like the easiest way
it probably makes sense
after that
so now
if you listen to
Aaliyah
one in a million
you listen to the regular version
no no no you listen to the regular version
first
and you hear the song
it hits you
it definitely hits you
now if you can listen to
the chopped and screwed
slow down version
you know what I'm saying
without feeling the need of
being humorous about it
and just feeling
the song itself being slow
and the way that they chopped the music correctly
the playback speed is still 0.5
this is amazing
if you think a song is slow down you can take a club
hype banger and turn that shit into an R&B song
it's just that old classic quality
shitty yeah
but if you take the same song
y'all know nothing about this y'all too young for this
yeah you all know about this listen to the B
and then
you write a slam over this now
honestly
go to
one and a million
search one in a million
chopped and screwed
now it's a specific length
because not everybody
chops well
not everybody chops their shit well
this might be a good one
it looks presentable
I don't know if this is the one that
yeah
yes
that's lean
oh okay
now listen
hear me out
hear me out okay
now imagine
being at your slowest
this but also this tempo
Okay.
Okay.
That's a hard-ass beat-down tempo.
Right, right, right.
If you were to play some slam that speed, like, with that snare, too,
that'd be hard as a son of a bitch.
But that's just the way we think, though.
We don't give a shit about genres.
We care about tempo.
Everything's a group.
Fuck genres.
Like, what tempo are you playing?
You know what I mean?
Like, and how many times do you change it?
I mean, that kind of really goes to think, like, how much...
We do have a lot of hardcore riffs, a lot of beat-down riffs.
You're a product to your environment.
But they're just the way they're formulated with the vocals and the drums and makes it slam.
It just comes from like going to shows and you'll see these amazing bands,
but it just feels like sometimes they're missing that one thing.
What's the one thing you think?
It just depends.
Like if you have a brutal death metal band live, like they're blasting and that's cool,
but then they're like missing a lot of groups.
No, it's because they're choosing not to use it.
They've heard it.
They know it sounds like.
They're choosing not to use it because...
I don't think it's that they're missing something.
They're choosing not to cross the line of their genre.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because if you choose to do something that's kind of fresh,
it's probably standing outside of the genre that you're probably in.
That's why somebody's like, who, what is that?
I think everybody likes to stay in their box.
Right.
Fuck that.
Fuck a box, dog.
This is free rain, dog.
Did you guys get any backlash from...
the traditional metal scene.
Oh, fuck yeah.
And I live for all you
fucking pussy motherfuckers.
Fuck you Jesse didn't.
Fuck you Jesse didn't.
I'm going to go and say it.
My wife was like,
we need to let it go.
And I was like, yes, I understand.
And of course, as soon as I get on here
and I'm reminded,
fuck you, dog.
You know, also, let me let you know,
I've traveled the country,
motherfucker and I've had,
most of the people say,
fuck you.
People were like, they're not real slam.
They're death corps being,
they're not real slim.
Dang.
Did you hear about that?
Did we tell you about that story?
I don't remember if we did.
No.
No, there was just a dude who was talking about, like, rob us on the internet.
He was like, yeah.
Yeah.
Talking shit saying it's going to rob us, saying that our band is shitty, saying that we're fake.
Made a T-shirt out of your ass.
Just trying to pick us, you know.
And we ended up going.
Finally, we played Chicago Domination.
And I was only there for Saturday, so I don't know.
I don't even know what the fucking happened.
Nah, just caught him after the show and just like.
Not only that.
called him out for 30 minutes on stage.
Oh, yeah.
His whole scene loved it.
All three days.
Because they don't like him either.
Please.
So we were in Chicago like, fuck on.
He turned around and seen me and Dee standing behind him and fucking walked off like
mad quick.
Like, he knew he didn't want to be caught by himself.
So when we finally walked up to him, we made sure he had enough people with him that it was
going to be a one-on-one fair fight between all of us that that was going to be the case.
And we walked up and not one of your motherfucking homies want to do a goddamn thing.
Fuck you and your homies, bro.
And don't let this go to the goofies.
Didn't do a damn thing for you, bro.
God, my goodness.
Don't let the goofies think this is how you get your five minutes of fame either.
My goodness.
Because don't worry, we ain't going to try and do anything to you.
We just laugh about your ass at dinner time.
I'm just saying.
God, his ghetto fucking aneurysms are going off.
Oh, shit.
Dude, what?
I mean...
Hold on.
You guys being from Oklahoma City, like, how is...
Like, what's that, like, growing up there?
Not Oklahoma City, but, like,
because Oklahoma City itself is a pretty big city.
It's a big change.
We've kind of lived outside.
You lived in...
I lived in Norman, Oklahoma, for like nine years.
Right.
And eight years in my life.
That's where I grew up with Norman.
It's boring.
Like, when you first leave and go play your first shows out of state, you're like, damn,
Oklahoma does suck.
There's nothing to do in Oklahoma but fuck shit.
There's nothing to do but...
It is comfortable, though.
Nothing to do, but get fucked up, fight.
Well, there's more fun things to do now
Because the Thames
Slams
Okay, C, The Thunder came to town
And they brought money with them
So like now we have a fuck ton of cool attractions now
And some, and way better restaurants
So I love Oklahoma City
There's a, like a theme park with a bunch of roller coasters
Cisardale Park just built a venue that like I would dream of to play
Yeah, there's cool venues like eight sides
It's on a big hill kind of like an amphitheater kind of thing
You know what I'm saying?
We got masks
movement in Tulsa, Charma, you know.
Bring that love to Tulsa.
Other than that, we ain't seen under that OKC thunder.
There was no Tulsa Thunder.
You know, we got our shit popping off.
Tulsa has always been way more thugged than OKC, though, because
our first 48 and fucking OKC are they?
They're in Tulsa.
That's the evil side, right?
That's the evil side.
Three episodes.
Yeah, what's Tulsa?
Like, we've only been in a few times, and we only know, like,
Pink Eye.
Murderous.
It's, that, pink eye is definitely all you need to know about Tulsa.
No, it's definitely, yeah.
That's a venue.
Yeah.
Pause.
But no, Tulsa's cool.
It's like every city.
You go everywhere, everywhere it looks like ass until you hit downtown.
You're like, oh, it's a structural ass.
It's like, you know, we got buildings and everything.
But other than that, you know, scenes usually super DIY to the core.
Love it.
Like getting kicked out of venues because they didn't know we were having shows there type thing.
Fuck that.
We just got the VFW and said, we're going to have.
have our own shit and regulate our own shit then.
That's what's the way to describe.
Shout out Stephen and fucking Backroom for making that shit.
Oklahoma is definitely a VFW state.
It's more than just Stephen. Backroom is a lot of people, but shout out backroom
has a fucking hole in the team at home.
Because one thing that we know...
They put on, help us put on like Slam Fest and stuff.
We love everything that we've played throughout the country.
And, you know, in the one-offs, we kind of been able to see a little bit deeper into
the scenes in a couple states and shit like that.
The one thing that we realize is Oklahoma keeps up with
everybody and kicks ass
in a lot of fucking places. And it's like,
it's beautiful to know that I have a beautiful
home to come home to. Because like our scene
kicks ass. I love going to our
fucking small asses. You want to live show.
In the week. Book a show in Oklahoma. Yeah. And listen,
let me go ahead and tell you all motherfucking promoters. Get
over that shit of trying to sell fucking tickets.
We ain't selling fucking tickets. Okay?
You're going to get it. We are, tell us how much to
pay the bands and we'll pay them. Let
them come to the VFW so we can get Ratchet
as fuck. Awesome.
Just very intimate. It's very close.
We got a little stage that we can put in there
It gets, we can pack 400 people in there
You've seen the 200 1-187 video we dropped?
That's what it's like
Bring your fucking bands
That's fun
Fuck March cuts too
Yo fuck merch cuts too
Fuck Albany
Merch cuts specifically
I forgot which one was the worst
Mean like I was like what?
Empire
Empire and Albany
No the show kicked ass
The venue itself was great
A lot of the staff amazing
And the show was great
Awesome
I felt great on stage
We just felt like we were getting
Nabbed
You know when you download a game
on Xbox, whatever, and it gets like 99%
and then it stops. That's what that show
was like.
Downloading error.
And then buffering.
Buffer Main. We were there. We were right
there. We were right there. We were guys playing with
a suffocation at.
89th Street. Okay.
That's 89th Street. A.K.A. the conservatory.
AKA the Green Door. Yeah.
AKA my neighborhood.
Yeah. I literally live up the street from that fucking place.
Do you really? Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Yeah. Not even six minutes.
the one you guys did on that uh cane hill run
that's a united street
that's a nice street we had that was a
party that was a fucking party
that's when we first Mitchell
yeah yeah that's crazy yeah that's crazy
we didn't know each other anything
we just showed up and they're like hey what's up
we're the local we're like hey what's up with the local
and they were like hey we're suicide silence they're like
well we kind of we kind of knew because
Austin was talking to Dan that's true that's true
because Dan love us out Dan Kenny
I've already shouted
I got a fun about you
I got a question.
What does Dan Kenny do on a regular basis?
Right now, where's he at?
I want him to come here.
He's probably sleeping.
In order to get the band together, I can't say much.
The truth is he's like in the mountain somewhere with a sniper rifle.
That would be sick.
He's waiting for it.
He's rescuing people in the jungle right now is what he's doing.
Yes, look at him.
Look at him.
Love that man.
God.
The only purpose of being in a band and having band members is just a guttache on him.
Yeah, because I'm going to go ahead and say, because he would tell me, he would tell me if I showed him a photo of me on stage, he'd be like, damn, you're fatter now.
I'm going to say, damn, you're fatter now.
I told him, I told him it's going to creep up on him.
No, it's fine, bro.
He didn't believe me.
He's still gorgeous.
That's a solid ass man.
He's still a legend.
We are all on that list, dude.
We're all going to get older.
Yeah, man.
Probably a little fatter and die.
My head is s.
He looks peak male performance.
Right.
Appreciate that.
Every one of y'all look like y'all could do this shit for another one.
Y'all's necks still work and that's all that matters to me.
Yep.
Appreciate that.
Thank God for yoga.
Bad fucking pause.
Thank God for yoga.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
I did it this morning.
Hell yeah.
The reaction and healing time is tough.
And this one was very different.
It took a lot longer.
Hey, save that.
We still got that one.
That one's.
You guys still fucking gone?
This is a cigarette.
This is a pick-me-up.
This is a bump.
Goose-rolling.
That's a punch to the face.
That's a punch to the nuts.
Yeah.
Smoking on that Lenny Kravitz.
I want to fly away.
Who the fuck is that?
I want to eat the male body.
That's dad body.
That's what Garza looks like under the shirt.
That's true.
Right now, yeah.
After about five.
You're telling me of the blue bikini?
For sure.
That's what Garza looks like in the blue bikini.
That's me.
That's okay.
So that's me actually.
That's me right now.
Those duck in your arms.
After this tour, that's all.
When you miss leg day.
Oh, dude.
Top peeling flesh sounds.
Okay, so.
Top heavy.
Slamming gangster groove.
I talked shit on it before, and I've come to, and I've come to respect it.
Thank you.
That's G.
Yeah.
I was like horrible marketing.
But then the next day, I had the shirt on just because, uh, I got, I got, I was
to get from, to be fair, you're right.
And then I went, I was like, where's the fucking band name?
And then I go, we want, we want, it was.
a smaller show and then a bartender's first thing he says to me oh
peeling flesh I was like well okay
well I tell you Dan Kimmy did the same thing in front of us we gave him the shirt
holds it turns it around he's like where the fuck's peeling flesh on it
yeah I was the SGG shirt
that is a DJ screw rip yeah it was DC screwed up click screwed up click
it's just SCC in the same exact font yeah so we basically made that just so I can
fucking wear it to work every day.
And all of us could have it.
And then we made hoodies.
It didn't sell really well.
Bad we.
But it was worth it just so we could have our own.
Because respected SUC.
Please don't see this for the level of.
It's one of those like, we spend enough money at that store.
Honestly.
We spent enough money at the fucking screw store.
Literally, we just spend our profits there.
Okay.
So, you could choose how far deep you want to go into it.
But you went to
South Africa
and met with the shaman, correct?
Holy shit, I was like, wait a fuck
what the fuck are you talking about here for a second? And then I remember
the lore. That was awesome.
Okay, okay, hit me with it. I need a reminder.
Okay, so what did you
think about on ayahuasca
and then at what point did any
I guess to...
I ain't never done Iwaska. I was just fucking a dude.
Literally
90% of the shit I was fucking saying all that
to her like this out of like a crazy ass
lore I would titually was like
because that's but maybe not all of it
you got to bring it up you got to bring it up you're
abducted by aliens because some of it's true
some of it you got me dude I fucking
fuck you guys
some of so
some of those stories are riddled with some
true I thought you were fucking serious
no hold on so
so tell them about the damn
I'm not 12 minute past fucking mama tired
I was like let's go okay it wasn't
it was close though close
it wasn't Iowazki
it was fucking dick dude it was
He's DMT.
You know what I'm saying?
And I had an experience meeting creator
is what I felt.
And that actually was a real thing.
Like I said, it's sprinkled with truth.
I don't want to believe me anymore.
Not, hey, bro, I did some fucking,
I hit a point where I needed to
see my own shaman.
No, I'm being serious.
I had to meet my own shaman
and have my own ceremony.
Me and my wife went through the ceremony together.
It was a beautiful experience.
I learned a lot how I feel
from my experience.
I found a new appreciation for
life.
Didn't last long.
But it was
something that was
definitely detrimental to me
actually giving a shit
and continuing with music
because I was done.
You were done?
Yeah, I was done, bro.
I was done with everything.
That was about that time.
It was that time.
I already know.
I was done, bro.
I was going to be done with music.
I won't going to be doing this shit,
dumb more.
I was going to give the rest of these guys
the 900 that we had in our account
and call it a fucking day.
What's thinking about getting rid of gear.
Wow.
Wow. And I just hit a point where I needed a tune-up, and it definitely seemed me up,
a tune-up is a really good way to say it.
So like I said, it's riddled with truth. Part of it is, I just told you in a funny-ass way.
I said, that motherfucker's never been to South Africa.
Hell no.
I was like, definitely not.
He said, damn, this is a deep part of the interview.
I'm from.
Austin's from South Africa.
Al Austin is that right now.
What's our song we listened to earlier?
No.
You fucking idiots
Oh god
I love this
Oh that's great
I don't know man
You may hate us
But this is honestly us
24 hours
A fucking day
No this is great
This is your fucking band
Dude's crazy
Yeah
So would you
Would you contribute
DMT to really
Maybe like
Give you a new perspective
I love
I love music
I'm not gonna fucking
It helps
It helps with our rich
I was gonna say, I was gonna say, definitely helped with me.
I feel like every musician is like, yeah, I'm gonna quit.
You can't, I feel like once you're a musician, that's in your brain, there's no way, bro.
That point in time I was fucking done.
You could take a break, you take a long-ass hiatus.
That was at the end of the band that shall not be named.
Yep.
And that's where that was.
I love that band.
Oh, yeah.
Fuck that fucking Darth band.
The, uh, that band saved my life.
It saved my life.
It's funny how you have a feeling, but someone else I have a completely different feeling about that.
That's funny, huh?
That's life.
It's kind of stupid.
I wish we could all just see it as a fucking band for what it was and call it a fucking day.
Fuck that shit.
Yeah.
So, Joe, you did, you had a experience?
On accident.
On accident?
Twice on purpose, one on accident.
Say the accident first, because this is a fucked-up-ass story.
God damn it.
Y'all were on tour.
That was the O-TM giveaway tour, right?
You got home from?
That was because we, so we started this week-long tour with one of my old metalcore bands here.
No.
Here.
Fuck no.
I'm going to light my own.
You want to edit?
Okay.
I should have tried.
So we did this week-long run with diesel ban.
I was in a metalcore band.
We took a car that did not have heat in the middle of wintertime up to like Minnesota.
So inside of the car was like 12 degrees.
Like constantly.
Like we were dead sick.
We were like driving on the road.
I'm not even joking.
Like consider just running the car off the road because that seemed like better than chilling in driving in that.
cold-ass car. Like it was that cold. Literally, it was that cold. But I just come home and
went to the dispensary. I was like, okay, I'm home. I'm going to get some weed. I'm chill.
I had a gravity bong there that I made before I left. I got back and there's a new gravity bong.
A different one. I'm like, cool. Okay, maybe. Evan was my homie Evan. Shout out.
Shout out back. I thought he just made a new gravity bong. So I was like, okay, cool, let me
pack a bowl. And I didn't know that that was.
was a ceremony
gravity bong for doing
DMT ceremonies.
And you know it is going.
Packed it, fucking took a fat
rip.
Crucial mistake.
And then the lights hit and just went
could you fucking imagine.
But I didn't know.
We look at this gravity bong for a minute.
Let's talk about gravity bongs or drugs.
But for the first 20 seconds, I'll say
I thought I hit like meth or like just some
something because I didn't know what it was.
And I was like, okay, that was not weed.
And then since I've done it before, I was like,
that was a DMT.
That's not good.
I was sick, so I just, like, curled up in a ball on the couch for like 20 minutes.
Pupils dropped quick.
Mine was acid.
Yeah.
For sure.
I fucked my head up on the house.
Yeah.
A hole.
Where?
In the brain.
Your brain?
In the right place.
Yeah.
Is that a...
That's a long ass story.
No, that's just a lifetime of, you know, not a lifetime, but a time of doing drugs.
And then not doing drugs for so, so long.
You know, shout out being actually, like, really, really drug-free, but still smoking hell.
Cool to have good homies because I was doing Coke a lot and I loved Coke, but like one day I was in the apartment with like 10 homies and everybody, like one dude stood up off Coke and he was like, yeah, let's just stop doing Coke.
And everybody said, hooray.
Finally, someone said that.
Who would see that?
That actually, that's a real story.
Who would say that?
And I was like, hell, yeah, all right.
Same thing like, we used to smoke cigarettes.
Yeah.
And then said I was like, yo, we're just going to quit.
And then we did.
Me, him, and my wife, family.
All three of us quit at the same point in time.
Put the cigarettes down.
I hear that quitting cigarettes is one of the hardest things to give up.
How did you do it?
I don't know, man.
Touchroom vape.
You know, try to quit fast food?
Touchscreen vape.
Just swapping it for another vice.
I'm sorry.
I'm probably still going to try and pass it to you.
Yeah, let me tell you all something.
The hardest shit to quit is like, like soda is the worst drug there is.
That is the hardest thing to stop drinking, yeah.
Caffeine.
It's impossible.
Caffeine's tough.
Caffeine.
Roto's corn syrup.
Yep.
So many GMOs.
I want that purple stuff.
Yeah.
Trying to lean back so.
Shout out.
Please, free Devo.
Chris, you got it?
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Shout out Chris.
Who?
Oh, yes.
Bebo?
Hair go crazy.
I fuck with that.
Yeah.
You have many juggerliners in here?
That the Pagos, dude.
Jesus.
It's in the house, dude.
Fago is good.
That's cool.
Literally pure drugs.
It's pure sugar.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
First ingredient, boom.
High fructose corn syrup.
I heard they used to pair them up with a bottle of deodorant at the local grocery stores.
I wish that was a thing.
I heard they stopped.
Is that a thing?
Oh, shit.
I don't want to believe it anymore, you.
I'm fucked up.
Why is there not ever been a death metal?
90% of it, it's probably going to be some bullshit.
Okay.
Sorry.
That's fun.
I will tell you what's true.
We'll tell you.
90 is true.
Okay.
Is the scheme mask real?
The what?
The ski mask.
What, like the...
The merch?
We've had peeling flinchie masks.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want one.
Those are from Vile.
I have one hanging on my wall.
I mail it to you.
I was about to say, sign.
Mm-hmm.
You want to have the purple logo?
That was kind of hard.
I think it's in gold.
Yeah, I have the real G-shit.
All the one-of-one shit we have, I have hanging up.
Okay.
What's the fuck?
Yes.
Man, that's exactly what it looks like.
That's what I need when I get home.
When I get home?
that's what you're doing
clean in your face
that's a good idea
is that what's how
is that what's that what's that what's that what's
that's getting at
okay
ha
for a ski mask
oh who's like
oh you get
add vile tapes records
to that
yeah
not vintal
it's all good jay
doing a good job man
killing it
oh no
vile tapes
my bed
v i le
russian
that's Russian
that's Russian
yeah
Okay. There you go. You have
locked into the fucking corridor
of Russian slam. This is how rare those ski masks
are. You can't really
find them. Honestly, I kind of like my
shit still being on a fucking
Russian side.
Like, that's how I discovered a lot of fucking
slam was slam on, like,
Russian sites that I had to Google translate.
First slam band. Blog spots.
That I ever, like, love, loved
OG, most OG Russian slam band,
Esophagothomi. Yes, and shout out
Tremotomy. Spel that. Yep.
Spell that.
Uh
No
No
Shout out to one of me
I can spell it dog
I probably
Kahn out enemy 906
Yo shout out my homies
Innees in Mexico
Enemy 906
Yeah
It's EZO
P-H
G-O-G-O-T-H
M-A
I'm good
I'm fucking
You shout out
Enemy 906
Yeah
They're from Mexico
This is beat down
In Spanish
And this shit is
Fucking hard dog
This shit is
Mad hard
Mignant
It reminds me
of like
UK beat down
that I love, but like in Mexico.
You know that or Orlando Jersey's fire.
That looks like some bashed in logo type.
Right.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Enemy 906.
Yeah.
On Spotify.
And then in a second,
bashed the fuck in.
It is time that we talk about it.
No, not.
You can take Enemy 906 out.
Bashed the fuck in.
Okay, that's good.
You'll probably, yeah, that's it.
That's the second one going right.
That's the first one, right?
That's the first one, yeah
Punishment
That's a great title
Listen this is beat down
That does not look like beat down artwork
And that's because that's who they are
That's them as people
Like if you see them in person
You'll understand the artwork
Like they live this fucking slam shit
It's just brutal
Mad brutal
Badrushed man
Evan shout out Indigo
Shout out dig it
That's cool
Chase
Chaschachacha
Chippa
Shout out Vega
Chipotovomy
what do you guys think slam came from?
Suffocation, bro.
Yep.
Leisurestasy.
That was a trick question.
I already know it was a trick question.
Yeah.
Damn.
Now I just want a headbing to this.
The lead.
That's the name of the song.
That's good.
That's good.
I will fucking mutilate you.
That's the best way to explain that.
Okay.
FF.W.A.S.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Was this another group?
tech chain
and stuff.
This is a fun one.
We were literally recording
Samahog's
Volume 2
and we had like
a fucking
Mickey Mouse School
shooting sample.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
It was a
everybody say
mystery mouse get tool
and then it was like
Facebook with a shovel
used to not be in there
but I was just like
it's missing something
and so I was supposed
to turn that shit in
in like four days
And I hit up Jamie and I was like my brother in Christ
Please give me three extra days
This is missing something
It needs something right here
And I cannot release this without fucking putting something here
And he was like you know what
I know your vision and I get it
I'll give you a week
So I was like I six so I hit up Chris from fucking burn victim
And I was like my dude
Pull up burn victim
Burn victim is essential
To the beginning of this band
Because the very beginning of this band
was when we listened to this a lot.
Now this fucking band is hard.
And they don't even really do stuff anymore
and that's cool. I love that.
I love that like if we did a tour together
it's because they would like...
It's because they wanted to do it, you know what I mean?
What's their first album,
or first EP called?
Oh, it's just the blue album and the red album.
Yeah, I can't remember.
Yeah, right there. That red album down there.
Go down.
That one says snakes.
Yeah, snakes.
That shit.
That right there.
But I hit up Chris and I was like my dude, I am so sorry.
I know you don't really know me, but like I would love to have you on a song.
And he was like, man, let me hit up my homie and let me see if I can make it happen.
Let me see if I can go over to his place and record it and I can send it back to you.
So he went over to a friend's house and did it like three days later.
I was like down to the wire, bro.
Like mad down to the wire.
I had to finish out all the mixing and mastering and get every single thing.
done and then do this part.
So he sends me the track and I sat down and it didn't have the gap or anything like that
in it and I heard it and I said, I know exactly what to do to this.
And I took what he sent me and I just created that part with it and we had shot the video,
the music video actually at that show had the Mickey Mouse sample.
It didn't have the Facebook with the shovel part.
So like for that, like that's just because that's how late in the game we got that part.
But we knew that it had to be there.
And as soon as we heard it, we were like,
this is way bigger than anything we thought that it was going to be.
So it was like, it was everything that we didn't know that we wanted.
Like it next leveled up for us.
So it's like, of course that's what we'd want.
Now we want gang chants.
Nope.
Now we want Slam gang chance.
It's our one song to where, like, because Slam,
you don't, you can't really grab the mic and do the, you know,
like grab the mic and do vocals.
That's the one part that we have that people can actually get on stage and, like, grab the mic and do the vocals with us.
It's just like...
And because that's what...
That's product of our environment.
That's been, like, our samples.
Yeah.
Literally last night, people are, like, yelling our samples, like in full.
Dude.
It was weird.
They yelled the Crick Mac sample.
They yelled the...
Which is, that's, like Dee said, that's California song.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Y'all stuck around.
night even though all the other bands left all y'all's fans stayed and and watched and it was fucking fire
tell them again it was sick yeah shout out the bands it did stay though you know what I'm
saying like shout out more ya more say that right more yeah yeah because I fuck it 17 times
yeah they were sick as fuck and they were hard seaside was lit seaside was awesome and it was in my
was expensive but it was look oh no yeah I didn't buy no weed I just smoked what I had because I got plenty
and Kelly, I got to say, shout out wire wheels.
Shout out Dayton's.
Boom.
Shout out Lil'B.
Shout out Lil'B.
Yeah.
Yeah, people have really connected with your band.
It's kind of sick.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
Trying to.
Because slam is exactly what you were saying earlier.
It's not like something you would have like,
you know, like singing along.
Or, you know.
It's not exactly in like what you would expect.
It's one of those things. Everybody comes up and they're like,
man, I love y'all.
Samples so much.
The samples, man.
Because you saw that movie when you were a kid
and then you died laughing and then you didn't
expect to hear that at this show you were going to.
Okay, that's why we changed
samples at our shows.
Like the music,
I feel like music is something you can grab
and hold on to and like get
fuck I don't remember the word.
But then the samples are also like that
too where you can grab and hold on to it.
It's a piece of them. Yeah. Because it's a memory
and sometimes it can be a core memory.
The connection. Yeah. Sometimes those movies
were the only time that you get the laugh.
Right, right.
You never really know what the hook's going to be.
Look a D in that fucking picture, bro.
Dude.
Beast as fuck, though.
Look at the mortician shirt.
Look at the stage, though.
Can we zoom in on how nasty that fucking stage was?
That's awesome.
Chris and the Nike's up.
Congrats.
$100 for a lick.
Whose idea was it to throw in the Ovan sample?
Are you the first band to sample of a podcast?
That was, yeah.
That was me in Soto.
That's funny.
Me and Soto, Soto used to, I used to go to sleep at 5 a.m.
Because I got off work at 12 a.m.
And I'd wake up at 4.
And I'd wake up at 4 and I'd go to work.
And that's where a lot of samples happen.
We just start sending them.
I'd have ideas in my sleep or have ideas the night before.
And then, or I'll see something that morning on shit.
And we send them right away.
Or I'll wake up to emails from Jason or videos from Jason.
Jason will send some too.
And Austin will send some, and Joey will send some sometimes, too.
I'll say shit.
Sometimes you do.
Sometimes you do.
You also have a choice in the samples, too, like if we use them or not.
Like, we do it as a group agree or disagree.
The weird noises and things.
Yes.
Shout out Joey's fucking vocals that he's done on our releases.
Barely.
Yo, shout out Chris, there he is right there in that photo.
Boom.
From Burn Victim.
And that top left photo that says emergency exit.
When Theo says my
My favorite type of weed
That's the only time of the day that he's soaked and take his shirt off
Favorite type of weed is cocaine
My goodness
That's probably a lot of truth there
For like for like for
I don't know
Me and D were in the van driving
Just mindlessly and I said I don't know man
My favorite kind of weed is and he goes
Weed
I was like right
His humor is it's
It's just so unique
I get what he's saying
Is he from Florida?
I think he's from Florida?
Louisiana, correct? That's big Florida man
energy. Louisiana makes sense, too.
Louisiana makes a big swamp man energy.
Shout out swamp people. I love y'all.
Where's Theo Vaughn from?
Swamp land.
Louisiana Swampland.
He's singing in with Crowbar or something.
Look at that fucking Mollet.
Shout out Crowbar.
Shout out Theo. Shout out Theo and Crowbar.
Yeah.
Theo looks like he'd play
fucking Crowbar, didn't he? That sounds like
it's in the sixth. Covington, Louisiana.
Is that where he's from?
No.
Hold on.
RELMANN.
Theodos Von Fylaford.
Theodafus
Von Philiford.
I got a
Capolini. Oh, that's that
Creole. Capitani.
That's that Creole. That's that
Cajian. Von Kurnatowski.
He fucked up letting us get a hold of it.
I got a couple
geeky questions.
What's correct?
What do you personally
think is missing from the slam scene?
Heart.
A lot of heart, a lot of soul.
Realness.
Pause.
samples are missing
people are trying to make money off of it
the fuck are you doing
that's us we're trying to make money
I mean to a point
every band has to make their money yeah
but like there's bands that make that
their entire fucking real
egotistical fucking personality
the money is the last part for sure
yeah it kind of goes back
to the album cover thing like we take ourselves
seriously
but we also
don't take ourselves seriously at fucking all
when we don't have to.
Yeah, I think Slam is like, everyone's like,
not have to be like, you know, this hard, gory
piece of shit.
You got some conservative-ass Trump supporters
with your fucking music sometimes.
Facts.
It's a weird.
That is kind of true.
I've heard someone say that.
Yeah.
That's what it's like.
Conservative as fuck.
Just elitist.
It's a very elitist genre.
And I think that might be why we have,
we like, kind of, you know.
Have the haters that we do.
Have the haters, but also on the rise
because we kind of reject.
I love you, haters.
But, like, also
embrace tradition in a way?
I don't know.
You can't listen to it and deny
that it's slam.
That's slam.
You're all caring too much
about these lines, though.
Who gives a fuck?
We all on this planet
and that bitch is round.
I think about it.
That was such an intelligent disc.
Right.
Right.
What just happened?
Big brain dis.
I don't know.
Like, people are too worried about
the genre-crashing shit.
stupid because you really should just like at this point like when you're grown and shit
it should just be like you either fuck with metal or you don't yeah this
either heavy or not sure yeah that's stupid it's true because if you like heavy
music you'll probably figure out you like slam just metal just heavy yeah as long as
as heavy is cool like fucking yo I love trivium that don't sound nothing like this
you know what I'm saying pause I love sepilitar I love
fucking
Soto's a huge Metallica
fan
I like Metallica
slowed down
I do not like
regular speed Metallica
Just
personally just because
Something wrong with that
Stupid-ass masculine
I don't know
Maybe it was the documentaries
The documentaries
Rondit for me
I didn't need to know
So much about their personal life
That shit fucked me up
Master of Puppets slow down
It's kind of cool
Like it's cool
We're doing this interview
But I don't want y'all guys
to know about the bullshit
We deal with them between
You know what I do?
I do.
Let's get it out.
Come on.
Right, right.
Like the crackhead from last night.
Oh, my God.
Let's fucking talk about the crackhead.
All right.
New section of the Garza podcast.
Portland, fucking Oregon.
We thought you were cool.
We thought we were going to get out of there.
Un-fucking Skate.
We were going to hit the gas station, use our little gift card that fucking Willie
Nelson gave us.
Our last one put on our little last $60.
He loaned us for some gas.
And Jason opens up.
the passenger door gets out and I go to hop up to get out of the fucking van and I look and right
behind where Jason is standing is a motherfucking crackhead dog I'm talking she is staring right
at me like a fucking Tim Burton movie I beams like Tim Burton character level fucking crackhead dog
proceeds to like go crazy and try to like get in the van holy fucking shit it's a fucking
crackhead like goes crazy like starts yelling trying to get in the van and is like she's like
Can you take us with you?
Or can you take me with you because that's about what she looked like except she was a redhead and she was mad short and just.
Man, it's terrifying looking.
I tell you, we drove off.
No, bro.
And she tried to drop on the hitch.
She did.
She jumped in between the van and trailer.
So we had to like slam on the truck.
We were nice.
We were nice as long as we possibly could be.
And she tried to literally climb in where Jason was at and Jason was trying to shut through like, yo, please, please, please.
don't get on our vehicle. Please don't get in our vehicle.
She looked mad, dirty.
Like, no disrespect. It was fucked up because we were going
to get gas at a, like, you know,
show. That said it was open. We wanted food
and everything. We pulled up and it's closed.
And we open our door.
Crackie stands there.
Like, jump in the car.
Open the door and a new friend is there.
A new fighter has approached.
As we were driving off, she was like running after the van.
Yeah, we look in the rearview.
Like World War Z like sprinting, bro.
I jumped out that fucking.
I said, don't you stop at this red light.
Bro.
She comes up, you run it.
You turn.
I jumped out that van.
I was like, get that.
That's, that's.
That's, that's.
That's about what she's looking like.
That's close.
Pretty close.
That's close.
So sad, man.
But she was like, she was like, oh, um, I'm running from somebody.
And I was like, who?
And she was like, somebody.
And she was like, I called the cops.
I was like, well, what they say?
She's like, they dropped me off here.
I was like, well, obviously they felt it was.
At a closed gas station in the middle of nowhere.
Yeah, can you click the, okay.
Everything was a lot.
she was saying.
So, first of all, hold on.
19 crackheads ideas.
And then the picture itself.
$17.
Now that's gangst.
Hey, yo, shut out, Viper.
Shout out Viper for real.
I can't have Macon.
Oh, look, Tyrone Biggums.
I can't have Madigan.
Shut up with Crackheads.
Shut up.
Oh, yeah.
What's that?
Can you click the bottom left picture?
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I'm losing my mind.
Garza said I ain't never bringing this damn TV to it in view against it.
He said, and bring some bitches.
The Bipples.
This is a round of one, guys.
It's all good, dude.
Crack and Steve.
All right, I got a key question.
What amps are best for modern and slam?
This is where y'all ain't utilizing.
This is really, really where y'all ain't utilizing.
5150s, baby.
Not even just that, really.
Joey knows how to fucking build the most gnarlyest slam tone.
in Reaper.
Like, y'all tripping
if y'all think that, like,
Reaper and the
plug-in possibility thing isn't sick
because 90% of the albums that y'all be listening to
was probably tracked on a VST
and was probably blended with your final guitar tone.
That right there
is the ultimate tone, line six,
on insane.
Half drive.
That's everybody's, like, that's a...
Scoot those myths. That should have been in Toys R Us,
you heard? Just a little pedal like that
for kids to play with.
Can you imagine.
You got to put it on insane, and then
you got to turn the low, the Mizz and the troubles all the way up together.
Well, I think we've achieved a lot of cool tone using the AxeFX.
Listen, I'll go ahead and say we've got a pretty expensive rig,
but we're basically just making it sound like line six on insane.
Just really, really loud.
Hell yeah, the metal zone.
Mad chainsaw, baby.
The professional version.
The professional version, exactly.
I mean, that's what it is.
We're using the Axe effects as a distortion pedals and a preamp.
but we're using the power amp section of his 5153 and my Mesa Badlander.
Yo shout out Mesa and shout out Fender for that shit.
Because those are the two slam machines.
Yep.
513.
You can do it with so many other things.
Yeah, I get it.
But that 5153 EL34 model, you can use that bitch with no pedals.
Garza, what do you use?
It just sound like that.
Last 10 seconds of life.
That's all you.
What head do you?
Fire.
$6505.
2?
I got the actual 515.
52. 52. That's the
cleansing tone. Yep. Hard.
Yo, I got to play through that
one night. Just one night, I got to
play that through the power ramp section of that head.
Crazy. And mad respect,
and thank you to Tyler, and thank you to
Garza for letting me do that because
that made me extremely happy to
do that. I'm a gear nerd, bro.
I'm a gear nerd. I miss Tyler. I miss Tyler.
I fucking miss you, Tyler. Jesus, bro.
He's a great guy, man. Hope Tyler is somewhere
high as hell right now. I love you, Nolan.
He is, man. Yo, I got a question
for you.
All right.
So playing guitar
was,
how did,
uh,
how did,
did you always like stay on fenders?
No.
I mean,
I've been,
uh,
cleansing stuff is like,
Ibanez,
EP stuff as I've been as seven strings.
Because obviously when Korn came out,
like the,
like those,
those RG sevens for all over eBay.
It's basically what I did.
Right.
I just keep buying RGs.
I want,
but,
uh,
I got the Fender Semi-Streen stream like three years ago.
and I was asking prior to that two years
so they finally realized
I wasn't going to fucking stop knocking on the door
Is that because you like Jim Rout?
I need it.
Is that because of a love for Jim Rout?
No, it's just, I'm just a Fendery guy.
My first guitar was a Fender Strat
but obviously didn't have seven strings back then
so just...
That's what it reminds me of, but the fucking
badass fucking us version
is what you have.
The seven string fucking version.
I love the Jim Rout six
because I'm a big Slip Not fan.
but like I love yours more than the Jim route because that's the seventh string it's a longer scale yeah
it's all modern specs but just on a on my bad I know that was hello random but yeah yeah
fine guy one trying to get a second and third one those are clean what do that you should do
that color scheme good yeah it's hard yeah it's hard that white and black it's like too
jimmer did kind of open up the door for me if he if if if if if they have experienced
with him first.
Me coming in with that
one and seven things
I would have been in with it
definitely a no-no
it could have been a disaster
yeah
and you're still
EMGs right
EMGs currently
just trying to experiment
right now
you know what
I can't fucking find
you there's
there's no
macy cabs
anywhere in a fucking
country
I was oh
I got two at home
fuck you
well I was
I was not I'm saying
like shit
you want him
dude
I was going
I was going on a
fucking
offer up
every city
there's nothing
it's like
is it like
is it like a scarcity
you think
like reverb
would be like
hardcore
kids are mine
them. Wow. That's what it is.
I just want two
straight, traditional
Mesa cabs.
You have those? I like the slanted
because I'm always forced to have to stand
close to the front of my cab, and the slanted
will point it at me a little bit
more than a straight cab will.
But I love the sound of a fucking
big square cab more.
That's why I think I really, really love our Vaders.
Shout out Vader.
I'm trying to get two more cabs.
I'm trying to get you out of build me.
base cab.
Trying to get some oil.
Trying to get some oil.
Sick.
I'll go with the water and let's get out of here.
Yes.
The show has him too.
Sick.
Yes, sir.
Well, shit.
One of the reasons right there that we chose to go with Vader is because we've seen
images like that in our life.
You know what I mean?
I like how they put the logo on there.
It's pretty cool.
Respect.
Respect to Vader for coming back and hooking us up.
Boom.
And making sure we had our shit in time for the fucking tour.
Yep.
That's sick.
Right there.
Look.
There is.
We made it.
We fucking made it.
Wow.
Mad blurry, shot on a potato.
This is a big moment.
Yeah, man.
It's cool.
On the rise.
Yeah, much respect to everybody that legitimately helped us get here.
I mean, because we didn't do this on our own.
Don't think that we did this on our own.
We did this because of the love and respect and the help from our home
and all of the people in the industry that fucking helped us, like yourself.
Okay, see you, baby.
Yep.
Because we're laughing and having a good time right now, but it's the end for us.
now we get to go home.
We get to go replenish.
We get to record the album.
We're kind of manic right now.
We're kind of manic.
We haven't had that Garza fly back, you know, chill.
No, we got to drive home.
We're laughing, having a good time now.
We used to laugh and have a bad time.
Because no matter what, we're going to laugh and we're going to have a time.
Whether it's good or bad, I don't give a fuck, dog.
Like, because life sucks already.
Why the fuck we're going to make it worse?
Does, man.
We're all on a seen planet.
Right, and that bitch is round, dog
You really are stressing the round, right?
Yeah, you're a flat earther?
I mean, if you believe in lines, you're like a flat earther.
Believe in lines.
But when you hear people talk, give their argument with the flat,
you're like, wow, interesting.
I'm like, stop thinking.
Right, stop.
It kind of makes sense.
It kind of like changes your brain.
It's weird.
Kind of be making sense.
They got their points.
But most lies do.
Oh, fuck.
No, they're just choosing not to look past where they can see.
That's where we live.
That's perzy.
Look.
Like, I don't understand how people don't see the roundness in the sky.
I'm high as fuck.
If the earth is flat, how do we sink?
Okay, but this is my thing, though.
How does water, how does water water?
I guess how thick is flat earth?
Right, there we go.
You'd be able to see, look, you'd be able to see the corners, you fucking dumbasses.
God.
So people think it's more like, it's like an island.
It's like an avatar island planet thing.
Floating village.
My favorite, that's why you can't go to Antarctica.
My favorite is all the round planets and then the flat planet, the flat Earth, and then the round planet, round planet, round planet.
Shout out Halo.
Shout out Halo.
Hell yeah.
Damn, was Halo flat?
Halo was kind of flat.
Halo was flat.
It was a ringy.
It was a ring of thee.
It's ring fordford.
That's what flat earthers think right there.
They play too much Halo.
Sick.
They play enough Halo, actually.
That's what that means.
I know we're trying to brainwash people.
do we do we uh
accomplish that
yeah
brainwashing has completed
I have
brainwashed all of them
oh yeah
that's where it started
yeah that's true
everybody
everybody likes slim
not only in slam
you don't know it
brainwashed
she want to pop
be at the show
yelling ice
he said it
she want to pop
she want to pop
bye
oh see
by O'S
so
so like great
so this
this just
this just happened
did
gee
have the slip knot? Is this
is the thing?
Yeah, yeah. I think he
finally just released his statement.
Did he? A little bit, but he didn't say what happened.
He respectfully said that he was going to
continue to do music. Shout out Jay Weinberg.
I love you, dog.
I just wish that. Let's start a band.
Boom.
I just wish there. I was heartbroken and blindsided to receive the
phone call.
Well, at least he got a phone call.
Not a phone call.
I hate the professional
like
save face post. Like, I want
to see the hood rash shit. Like, I want to see
the...
Yo, fuck that.
The group shot screened.
He got his water turned on in my name,
and he ain't paid the bill in six fucking months.
I can't get a new house
because he still owe money in his name
from whenever he lived there before.
It's a bad thing.
He's not fucking Judy.
If I got kicked out of appealing for some reason,
that's not the post I would make.
What would you say?
What would you say?
I'd say, mow.
The windmills are kicking up all the pollution.
I was heartbroken.
Like Chromium 6 from Lake Thunderbird.
Yes, sir.
You knew, I know exactly what you're talking about.
I remember seeing that shit.
Well, the best to Jay and the best to the band.
Nah, he's got a rep.
Somebody typed that up for him.
Yeah.
I thought that too.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying, because there's no way he'd...
He fuming, dog.
He's that.
Air that bitch out.
Air that bitch out, bro.
Take the whole band with you.
I know he put holes in his drool after that.
All band is gone.
So what a 21st average say?
I pull a bat.
Dude, you know what?
I need a drummer because I'm gonna care of Ernie.
He's fucking pissing me on.
He's out.
You can't have ours.
I need y'all know they joke like this every day and I love it.
We are. We released this. This is a statement. He's out.
He's out. Fuck him.
I love you, Ernie.
That's the statement. That's the band statement we need.
He's out. Fuck him.
There you go.
No, we did. It's talking to me daily.
Like, fuck you. You suck.
He suck.
We're that.
We're definitely all.
talking to each other at the whole time.
That's why, that's, that's the purpose of being close.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Talk to each other.
It's just, that's how it is, man.
Fucking Jason's feet.
Can't take, you can't take, you laugh to you seriously.
What about Joe's feet?
What are you talking about Jason's feet?
He's all these drumming feet, he's thinking.
Hey, well, I don't really take my socks off that offence and so you ain't got to see the dogs.
I put my new socks on every other than.
No, they're pretty, they're chilling.
I'm right to get home.
I got one last pair of underwear.
And that's why Ross and Burlington's are so detrimental.
Yes, sir.
That was a full-s-girl moment.
Because you got motherfuckers like Soto on their last draw.
Oh, man, we got to make a stop.
That's last G-string.
I got a massive drool.
I need to buy some drools.
Well, Pilling Flesh, it was honored to share the stage with you guys for a full month hanging out.
Thank you.
Thank you for a fucking great time.
Thank you all for real.
It was cool, man.
It was ending in here sick.
It was a whole month of just smoothness.
It was like, damn, this shit.
Got some moisturizer.
Spoiled us, honestly.
Every venue will have their little, you know,
knits and little kinks to work around.
Like merch cuts, you dumbasses.
No, fucking idiot.
Point that camera right at me.
Zoom in.
Zoom in.
Venues worldwide.
Parking.
Figure that shit out.
Yeah, dumbasses.
Yeah, it's bad.
Get more cones at least.
I love the ad libs on that.
Look at that.
Look at all those wonderful fucking people.
It was a great time.
Even when shit wasn't smooth, it was smooth.
Yeah.
It ended up being smooth.
It's crazy.
That shit was fucking fun.
Shout out Eddie.
I miss you so much, dog.
Love Eddie.
The first thing I noticed of this picture was the peeling flush banner in the background.
I was like, hell yeah.
Damn.
Sometimes timing just lines up like that.
That's crazy.
Shout out I Am.
Shout out Steve.
Fucking miss you, bro.
Miss all of Chelsea Grinn.
Miss all of I Am.
Shout out Colin.
I hate the shit.
Shout on Colin.
So what can people?
find you guys. On the internet.
Internet. We're at. Peeling flesh
all one
word. Can y'all
stop put fucking spaces in my shit?
Sorry.
We put spaces in our own shit.
Shout out that fresh 20-K-do. Who did that? I don't know. I didn't make that.
Peeling flesh okay on Instagram. That's a D thing.
Austin, you sent up a bitch.
It wasn't Austin. It was D. It was Diesel.
You all right, that has to be one word.
All one word.
Well, you can find them on an internet somewhere.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, right there.
Like all those places.
I'm sorry, the reason why I said everywhere
is because my brain wouldn't load.
I think that's a problem most of us have,
but one minute.
My brain's not loading right now.
Did we say shout out I am yet?
I just said that.
Let's talk about Bastion.
No.
Shout out.
We'll shout out to you at Bastion as well.
I love y'all Bastion.
I miss y'all.
I'm ready to get home to y'all dumbasses.
I want that, sir.
As Evan would say, did I mention suck my dick?
And also buy this long sleeve that they're currently looking at right now.
Oh, shit, it's sold out.
That's on the label.
If you want to buy merch, it's actually going to directly help us.
It's got to be in person.
Or it's got to be from the big cartel from slamnasium.bid.com.
Like, that's the only way that we really get direct money for it that actually goes towards stuff that, like, we used to get out on the road and hit the road and go places.
Gear and such.
Like, we work our asses off at home to make sure that we have everything we need before we leave for tour to make it as successful as possible.
so we can give people the most dumbest, best show that they've ever experienced.
They're going to be like, wow, I am stucks, way stupider now because I've watched them live.
Put your bourbons in the air.
Yeah.
Damn, what is that?
Appreciate it.
Put your vapes in the air.
Hope you guys have fun.
What is that some bootleg shit?
Pick up the bootlate merge online.
Yeah.
Love you guys.
Love you.
Thank you.
All right, bro. Thank you.
All right, one.
That's it.
Later.
