Garza Podcast - 111 - BRUJERIA | Juan Brujo: Ozark, Working with Dino Cazares & Spanish in Metal

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

Garza sits down in-person with Juan Brujo. Vocalist of Mexician deathgrind band BRUJERIA. https://linktr.ee/brujeriaofficial SPONSORS: Click this link to purchase from Sweetwater & help support... the podcast: imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Creativity 01:16 - Singing About MJ 06:10 - Dealing with Bootlegging 09:28 - Starting Brujería, Making Metal for Spanish Speaking Audience 12:30 - Meaning of Brujería  13:33 - Meeting Dino Cazares, Bonding Over Napalm Death 16:17 - Recording 1st Brujería Singles, Having Instant Fans 21:41 - Writing a Full Album in 3 Days 23:48 - Creating the Legend & Mystery of the Band 32:32 - Controversial Album Covers 37:00 - Dark Coincidence with True Crime 44:25 - Being in a Band with Dino, Writing Songs 47:30 - Brujerizmo & Getting Nominated for Billboard Music Awards 2001 50:34 - Reflecting on Brujerizmo Album, Working with Dino & Raymond Was Special 54:27 - Brujería Was a Stepping Stone for Big Artists 56:11 - What Will It Take to Work with Dino Again? 59:46 - Being Featured on Ozark on Netflix 1:02:09 - Playing to Packed Crowds in the Early Days  1:06:45 - From Chicago to Los Angeles  1:07:18 - Viral Recruitment Videos, Dealing with Law Enforcement 1:12:18 - Dealing with an LA Governor 1:19:19 - Writing Songs About Trump 1:21:56 - Brujería is Not Afraid to Be Controversial, Inspired by Dead Kennedys 1:25:09 - Everyone Who’s Played in Brujería Moves On to Bigger Bands 1:26:50 - Partying with Billy Ray Cyrus & Getting Thrown Out Of Grammy Party by the Governor 1:29:25 - Cancelling Rock al Parque Festival in Colombia  1:32:42 - Not Warming Up for Shows  1:33:46 - More Stories to Come

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Starting point is 00:00:00 That's the one who got nominated for a Latin Billboard Award. Did it? Yeah. You know who beat us? Chakira. We're in a category with Chakira. Like, oh, figure, I want to go just to see her. No, I already met her before.
Starting point is 00:00:11 It was Chakida, a band called La Le from Mexico. Brugidismo. All right, look it up. How does... Look it up. I think it was the 2001 Latin Billboard Music Awards. Whenever I need music gear, I always go to sweetwater.com. It bits mics, headphones, or studio, and make...
Starting point is 00:00:30 recording gear, sweet water has you covered. Next time you need any music gear, support the podcast by using the link in a description and comment section below. It feels like you're kind of turn into like a trash can. You're just like overflowing with thoughts and memories. When you're young, you try to keep everything. And then all of a sudden you're overflowing with shit you don't need. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Yeah. Throw it away. How are your memories now? Worst. Worse? Worse? Worst. It's like, just forget a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I don't care. You're always high and shit and, you know, doing the, you know, the fun stuff and forget a lot of shit. Yeah. Might be a good thing. I don't know. You've always been an advocate for weed. Yeah, yeah. We've always done our weed songs.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Are we recording all? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. We've always been an advocate of making weed legal and shit. So we're doing our marijuana songs and the disco songs. Whose idea was that? Mine.
Starting point is 00:01:34 It's yours. Yeah, yeah. No one's sick enough to think of that, like a disco metal song. It's pretty out there. Yeah, how is that, like, how is that reaction? People get shocked. Like, the thing is like the Marijuana song, it's like, saw it something like the macarona, which was played everywhere back in the day.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I mean, every TV. It was everywhere, dude. Everywhere. If you remember that, it was, no, you couldn't go anywhere without hearing it. And it took me a year to convince Dino to, dude, give me a riff and I'll, you know, it'll work. No, I ain't, I, that's not metal. a line playing that shit.
Starting point is 00:02:09 So after a year he gave in and he came in and did that riff and then just near and yeah, Marty Wanna. And boom, it just like blew up. It was just a bootleg single and shit. And people who put it out tried to make money with it got busted by Universal or somebody came down on him. But the story behind that song, though, because Monty Connor of a, back then it was Roadrunner.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It was like, we got to put this out legal and, you know, sell it, sell it. Sure. And so they went to get the rights from the band or the lawyers or whatever. And they gave the, you know, we want to use this song to, you know, put it out, parody, whatever. And after a month, the lawyers said, they're like, dude, it's been a month. The lawyers, they don't take a month to decide yes or no. So Monty called up the lawyers.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And they said, well, we got about a thousand requests to do that song. And we're the guys who decide yes or no, except for one, yours. he goes, we had to send it to the guys in Spain, the guys who actually did the song, the only one out of a thousand that they couldn't decide. We couldn't decide, so we had to send it to the guys. And they said, well, let me go find out. Came back, they listened to it halfway, said,
Starting point is 00:03:21 fuck, no, we're not going to. No, fuck. To put that shit out. That sucks. You know, everybody else, the lawyer said yes or no, yes or no, or this and that, whatever. They said, fine, you can, hey, marijuana,
Starting point is 00:03:33 yerba satanico. Fuck. So the actual artist? The actual artist had to hear it. He got sent to him and they had to hear it. And they were like this, no, that's the lawyers decided everything else except that one. And it took a long time of month to get them to reply no. Was that, that song is originally from Spain. It's from Spain, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:55 The guys who did it were from Spain. I don't know what happened. But those, what are those guys? I forgot the name of their name. Can we find out who actually sings that song? Los del Rio? Yep. Los Del Rio.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Good memory. Yeah, how about that? Because it's coming back. It's coming back. But you would think because there's like a Spanish connection that you would think maybe they will kind of... Yeah, yeah, it's funny. It'll be funny to them and stuff, you know. Like, everybody else just laughs.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Like, what the fuck, you know? Because they expect the... Because it's exact same, the same, you know, music to the intro, like, coming around there. ripped it out, we can't copy that, so we just put it straight on it and the guitar came in and Marijuana. They're like, fuck this. Yeah, they had to hear it.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Well, one, they probably looked at a band name. Well, that didn't help. No. You know, right there, I think, and they might not even got heard. I don't know, we're just looking at the band name. Let's look at their first album cover. Let's look it up online. Back then, there was no online, so they couldn't tell
Starting point is 00:05:00 anything, just the name alone. Oh, she? Is that old? How did they find out? Well, it's the name, like, Brugheria, like, what? Yeah. And then they ask anybody, oh, those guys kill white people and shit. You know, that's the first response.
Starting point is 00:05:15 If you ask a white guy, that's what they say. If you have someone who knows Spanish, oh, yeah, it's a, you know, no, Mala Oanda, whatever. Yeah. They don't even know us. Anyways, it was doomed. If it had to go to those guys, it was doomed. It took a month to find out no.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Moni was bummed because he was like, yes, this will sell a little white. work. So the way you could put it out is if you don't put it on a record and don't sell it. Is this, is that what happened? They wanted to sell, not, you know, I just put it out, gave it everything, put this out, well, however you want. It's like, I'm not going to make nothing off it. I didn't, I didn't write it.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Is that, is that legal? Publishing, well, you could call it. Half, half. Half. Where I come from, it's legal. But, you know, you know, they make rules up with guns over there. But, yeah, it's like, I just. I gave it out free. I didn't make any money off.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And they put out as a joke. If it's a parody, it's legal. And but people, you know, packaged it and sold it in Spain. They sold $50,000 and they got busted. What the, so South America guys got busted. And, you know, they put it out, like, released it, like on their label. Like, oh, on my, my label, I'm starting, you know, busted. This takes someone else's stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't take any. I just gave it out here.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Put it out, you know, whatever you want to do. But, you know, I don't want nothing for it. It's a joke. Hmm. Has that been a struggle for you and your band? Because I imagine, like, you're, I mean, you're massive in Mexico, South America, anywhere that will... You know, Spanish, it gets big, yeah. But these are all places in the world that will bootleg your shit.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Oh, too. Mexico, when he started in Mexico, bootlegging was rude. I mean, hundreds of different... We play a gig in the early days. and there'd be a wall of T-shirts like, what? We'd sell like five shirts at the show, and they'd sell a thousand outside. It's like crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I still see that, like, where they have a wall of shirts, you know, and we'd sell, like, 10 inside in South America. We can't sell shirts in South America. It's tough down there, man. Yeah, it's like, we want too much, and the bootlegs are better, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Even to this day, you can't really do anything.
Starting point is 00:07:29 We just went just a couple months ago and couldn't sell a damn shirt. I think we did 10 days in Brazil. I think we sold 90 shirts. And the promoter made 100. I go, why? You only made 100? What are you crazy?
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, no, we'll make more. We sold 90 in 10 days, 10 dates. Hmm. They don't buy shirts down there. You know, your bootlegs are cheaper and, you know, whatever, whatever. But yeah, man, there's been bootlegs going on for ever in Mexico. The one, the one bootleg, you know, the revolution in Mexico was like 93, 99. 94, 95, around there.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And when the Mano Negra guys from Spain went down, because they're into the, you know, the communist revolution thing. And they went down to Mexico to see those guys in the jungle, the Marcos guys, you know, the guys of the bandanas and down on a revolution in Mexico. And they came out from the jungle wearing Bruehidi Escher, it says yuck uniforms.
Starting point is 00:08:27 We're like, just like, you know, the song Revolution, and it had the lyrics on the back and they were wearing them down there on the, the revolutionary guys coming down from the hills with like a rifle striped you know on their strapped up to their back on a horse and fucking revolve
Starting point is 00:08:43 actually bandanas covering their face like it's fuck it's the official uniform what do you think when you see that that one really hit me like oh I can't believe it went all the way I mean that's going all the way you know
Starting point is 00:08:57 that's pretty impressive to be able to do that and coming from up here in the States too you know if I was from there okay you know yeah of course but I'm from up here and getting it down there you know all the way to the middle of the shit it's fucking pretty good that is crazy to see
Starting point is 00:09:14 see how far it's coming from you know starting the band in like 89 from my scene Terrorizer you know Terrorizer that's where it started the Terrorizer gig so for people that don't know so around 89 Terrorizer wasn't really allowed to play club
Starting point is 00:09:32 in L.A. They wouldn't let them, like, the strip wouldn't let them play because their following was just a bunch of Grenuos, like Mexican Indian guy, you had long, straight black hair, just all of them. You never seen that many. And the clubs, they were like, no,
Starting point is 00:09:48 no, we don't want that shit. So they wouldn't let them play anywhere. So we saw them in a backyard in East L.A., like in Echo Park, I think it was. And we went, it was me, Dino and Fantasma and Junior Osi-Colom, we went, and we'd, like, It was in a backyard of the house. And it was packed.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I go, fuck, a lot of people here. And he goes, hey, hey, what? Did terrorize your play already? And they could, yeah. I'd go around and I find out that no one spoke English. It was in L.A. Nobody there spoke English. Oh, man, what pass all, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 You know, no one, all Mexican had long hair going crazy. And no English. I go, damn, if they get this many people here, they don't speak English and it's in L.A. We got to start a band in the Spanol. We got to give them what they want and Da'le what they want and da'le what I'm going to in the Spanish. That's when I said, I got the name, Brugeria.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Whoa. And then it just took off from there. Don't use your real names because the shit I'm going to say is not, you don't want to be associated with it. Yeah. You don't want to be known for what I'm going to say. Was it a combination of already having a name in your head and seeing, because you went to,
Starting point is 00:11:00 because your old friend, Pat was a DJ at a radio station, correct? KXLU, Loyola Merrimount University College Station. Yeah. And he had a show like a couple hours on Sunday night or something, to play metal. It was like a final countdown and hardcore show, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you'd play, you'd be playing the Slayer the first time on radio, Metallica first time on radio.
Starting point is 00:11:24 No, he's serious? It was like 86, 7, 8. 80, yeah, well, 80. When we went to see him was $89.90 or something like that. But yeah, he worked with Rick Rubin at Death American, and here's the new Slayer, put it out before, you know, play it before it's out. And he'd be the first guy playing it. Straight from Deaf American to the station, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Oh, shit. So, yeah, he's a guy you got to get on here, dude. He's been in, like, every punk band in the way. He has, like, 40 different albums he's on. And he was the DJ. He was the TV guy. And, what was it? Which wrestling one
Starting point is 00:12:01 The one in L.A.? I forgot the one, but there was an extreme wrestling show in L.A. like way back maybe about 10 years or more of 15, and he was the TV guy, like, knowing the announcer that he was, I'm going, Yo, I'm sorry Larry Rivera, and Lucha Libre, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:12:17 He'd come out with Bruhidey Ashurst. But, um... It's kind of funny because how he ended up being, and then you, you met him, you knew him since you were... High school. 13, right? Yeah, crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Since high school. Anyway, so yeah, that's it. The name just came up because, like, you know, I worked in East LA with a bunch of Mexican people. And they were talking, oh, it's brujeria. Like, it's like vood. You know, it's like, don't, you know, there were just women talking shit like that. And then like that night we go and he goes, you know, we got to make a bad for the shit. And I just had it in my head and go brujeria.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You know, that scares people. They said, no, no, no, it's those brujia. No, you know, people like, I'm not touching it. I see that reaction. I see that out reaction and go, oh, shit, let's give it to them. Mm-hmm. Is that black magic or is that witchcraft? All of it.
Starting point is 00:13:04 All of it. Yeah. Because Spanish, they're very little, I've been diving in. I realize they'll have like multiple meanings. Yeah. You know, they got the santerias. You know, they got the, you know, the Negro. They got, you know, the Blanco.
Starting point is 00:13:17 They got all different, you know, types of that stuff, you know, different descriptions of it. But it's crazy stuff. It's where, yeah, I'm learning how to read Spanish and realize those, those, like, double meanings sometimes. You're like, oh, shh. Everything popular is double. So you knew Pat first. How did you, I assume you met Dino they're one of his parties?
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah, I was, I think it was Day Palm Death Show. Oh, really? Yeah, he was there with a, he was wearing a terrorizer shirt or extreme noise terror? I was one of those old earache band t-shirts and we saw it, like no one has, back in the 80s, no one had those shirts, you know, wearing them and sporting them.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And it was in an A-Pom show. and hey, you know, where'd you get that shirt and blah, blah, blah. And that's how we hooked up. It's like, we like the same music before it was cool. It was like in 87. That's, you know, that's a long time ago. You know, it's like, I don't even think. There's maybe one Napalm record out or something, 88, some, no, it's been a long time.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You were the very beginnings of, like, the death matter, man. That was the, you know, the birth of it all, man. You were there. The first time on the radio. Pat would play napalm death. The only guy in the world did play Napalm Death on the radio. I heard that and I go, fuck, what is that? And called up Pat, well, wait, well, Napalm death, man.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Fucking UK, check it out. We just all, you know, just got around that music. We were like, you know, maybe about 10 fans back then. You know, Napalm's big now. It's like a, you know, name. Yeah, yeah. Back then it was just a baby. It was like, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Kids. Yeah, what's the old drummer? Mitch, he was just a crazy drunk with him and Bill Steer on the guitar, Shane. See, I knew him when it was that. Bill was in that band?
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah, he started. That's why when he left for carcass, it was Shane got pissed. Ah, you took my guitar player, you know, a bronca and shit. Oh, shit, I know that. You didn't? Yeah, well, now you're schooled. Yeah, you got to go to school now. Yeah, that was the olden days. I'm sitting here in school, dude.
Starting point is 00:15:26 You're real, man. You weren't even born. I was born then. I was born in 85. Oh, you were born, barely. I was shitting my diapers. Yeah, ha ha, ha! You were in a diaper when I was fucking, you know, Bill Steers and Napalm.
Starting point is 00:15:37 That's sick. Yeah, I think at the very first album, you could see, he's on the pitch, I think. Shane looks like a little kid with, you know, but, um, I don't remember the first one. I don't even have it anymore, but... No, I'm just learning, like, the importance of bands, like Terrorizer, Napalm. With a band like Napal, like, Naipal, I'm brought someone like you and do you know together? do you know together? Yeah, just listening to that, we met each other
Starting point is 00:16:01 and we were fans of the same music, and it was easy. We were bros back then, you're really bros. And who else came along then? Yeah, it just started growing little by little and got brew hideo. And let's do brouhideo.
Starting point is 00:16:19 We've got to give them something in Spanish. And we recorded the first single. You know, hey, we got like three hours of the studio, you know, like $10 an hour. And let's go record Bruhitty, yeah, because it's hard to get everybody together because Billy was in faith no more, and, you know, he got busy. You know, at the beginning, he wasn't, I mean, he was touring with Metallica and shit like that, you know, and it was hard to get, you know, get him to go in the studio and record
Starting point is 00:16:50 some shit. So finally, we got everybody together. We went in there and did four songs in a couple hours, record, wrote them, recorded them, mixed them all right there, and that, you know, and we had it. And they go, too, and Tino got a tape and a couple tapes. And he knows everybody in Hollywood at the time. He lived in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And he gave one tape to his roommate, hate face, white guy from New York, you know, doesn't know any Spanish. He goes, yo, yo, what the, what the fuck? You know, he was one of those New York guys, right? Gotcha. Gave him one and gave another guy, a Mexican guy to just jump the border. He said, ah. I got here Sunday.
Starting point is 00:17:30 You get El Domingo, you know, and he's fresh over the border. And Dino gave him one, and then next day, Dino, I go over to Dino's pad, and I see the hate-faced Dave with the fucking bandage on his arm. Go, what the fuck happened to you with that big bandage? Oh, man, check it out. Takes off the bandage, Brujidea on his arm. I go, what? I goes, I had to be the first guy with a brouhidi tattoo. It's on a white guy, a white, long-haired guy.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I had to be the first guy to get a Brue Hidia tattoo one day out of the studio. What? That's the record, dude. I mean, one day, you know, somebody a fan tattoos his arm with Brou Hidia. Record. That's a record. I mean, if you're in the band, you're going to, yeah, you'll do your own shit, whatever. But if you're just like, you heard it for the first time and you're tattooing yourself same day,
Starting point is 00:18:18 Bruehia on his arm, like, he doesn't even know what it means. He doesn't even know what it means. He doesn't even know what it means. He's on his white guy's arm. Like, okay. All right. And then Dino says he saw it. a little Mexican guy like on the weekend.
Starting point is 00:18:29 He goes, and he came up to me and he started singing all the songs. He knew all the lyrics. I don't know the lyrics. I wrote down and I forgot him. But the kid knew all the songs, and it's like you have to hear it a million. The first record was like, you know, you got to hear it a thousand times to understand any words. There was no lyrics with it.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And the kid knew all the songs. He was singing him the dean of, uh, uh, uh, this is going to work. This thing's going to take care of itself. And it always has. ever since then it was like it's like there's no stopping it now the guy with a tattoo and it's like no no it ain't stopping now a white kid was seeing spanish no he just no he just put it he didn't know what the fucking said he just you know loved it and put tattoo on his I want to be the
Starting point is 00:19:13 first guy with the brou hidea tattoo that's one day hours after the recording the first recording we ever did okay so there's there's a rumor that you were recording records and of a couple of days and a song writing was like an hour yeah song well it would be like okay billy's off you know from tour then dino off from fear factory you know for around christmas or some you know we got we got like four days off all of us are in l.a for four days you know and that never happened back then it was like really rare so let's go to the studio you know go to the same old studio 10 15 bucks an hour you know it's just for the first record uh the first record uh the first full length CD. We got together
Starting point is 00:19:59 I think it was three days wrote the songs you know played the first time they played it was actually being recorded I think some of the songs like it was like that I was writing the lyrics while they were recording the music and I got a video
Starting point is 00:20:15 I got a video of the very first single we were recording and like they were doing the music and who's playing drums? We're like this I don't know Billy's like let me try it No. And then Pat, da,
Starting point is 00:20:29 that, you could be the drummer. Never played drums in his life. Never played drums in his life. He gets down there and goes blast. He started off good at the first like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You know,
Starting point is 00:20:43 he couldn't make it until the end of the song, but that's all we had. We didn't have a drummer. So it's like, there's a video tag. I think I posted on YouTube or Facebook, you know, a piece of like how we recorded,
Starting point is 00:20:53 you know, they're writing the song and I'm writing the lyrics and yeah and it rained the day before so there was water and there was a big puddle of water in the in the recording side of the studio pat never played drums in his life and he's there and you know kak kak kak kak and it just came together and that's the one that guy got tattooed i mean you know that that shit turned out to be you know the start of everything and that's the one the Dave got a tattoo you heard of the first time just it was you just finished recording writing and recording it next to you know he's tattooing himself oh that was probably the
Starting point is 00:21:26 first... The Dementiac, the red single. Yes, yes. That's the one. But the... To do the CD, it was like three days. We just got there and wrote everything. We need one more riff. I remember...
Starting point is 00:21:38 We had like 12 songs. We need 13 songs. We need 13 songs. And, you know, everybody's just like, I don't have any... I'm blank. In four days? Yeah, I wasn't like...
Starting point is 00:21:50 No, it was like three days. Because Billy had... The last day was mixing. So in three days. days we wrote it, recorded it, and good to go. And then we just needed one more song. And it was like, we're calling people. Hey, man, we need a riff. Come down. No, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's late. And I called. You know who I called? I got my, I got this number. I met the guy, and I met his wife on the airplane coming down today or something like that. And it was Greg Heston. Bad religion. Circle Jux Greg Heston. I got this number. You know, I met him two days ago. I met his wife today on the plane.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And, you know, I met him at the the airport, you know, this and that, call him. Call him up. Hey, Greg and Brue, come down in the studio. We need a riff. We need one more song to finish the record. And no, no, fuck that. I can't. That's the last time I ever talked to him.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Sorry, Dave. Sorry, Dave. Cool guy. Yeah, I don't think he remembers. He was asleep. But yeah, we need a riff, man. Give us a riff. We finish this thing.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And shit like that was going on. Oh, I mean, I guess, I'll only assume you have time for, like, one take. Like, okay, that's the rip. Well, it was good. They were tight. Like, yeah. It just worked.
Starting point is 00:23:05 It's like, no one could believe it. It's like, duh, that sounds good. The vocals come on, you know, put some decks all the way. Like, you know, it sounds good. It was a lot of one-take shit. And we didn't know. We didn't know that was good. We just did it.
Starting point is 00:23:20 It came out that way, oh, okay, good. We're almost done. You know, and people, like, I was like, well, you wrote it, recorded it, mixed it, it's a long, a couple hours. It's crazy. And they hear it, like, you know, it sounds real. It sounds like it's a Mexican band from the, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:35 putting it together in a farm. That's going to like a studio was $10 an hour. I mean, you know, it's going to sound like a farm in Mexico. So it was pretty good, the name and the whole story behind it and how it sounded. It just, and there was no internet back then. You wouldn't, you were helpless. You saw that, and you listen to what? You're done.
Starting point is 00:23:53 There was no, like, who plays in this? None of that. You look at the back of the picture of the band with a bunch of, you know, guys, drug dealer guys, they busted in a mugshot. That's the band picture. People like, what? No internet. People going, but, you know, some guys, you know some guys.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I got to, you know, know everything. What's, you know, about the, you know, nothing. And if you don't know Spanish, you really know nothing, nothing. Because you've got to talk to someone in Mexico to know anything about the band back then. So I heard that you You really got like your story down And that's just what you just threw to the press And then you did you agree like hey we're not going to do
Starting point is 00:24:34 Well what happened? And that's yeah no I'm like what am I going to do interviews about you know we're not touring We're not you know a real band that's going to go out there Whatever I mean wrote her to put us down they liked it and they Dino just signed fear factory and stuff So they put it out like man put it out you know it doesn't matter Put it out you know And it was like, I remember, it was Monty, the guy that was like, I, this is the, this is the, you see, you see that as a band picture.
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Starting point is 00:25:40 are, and they believed it. I mean, it's like, there's no way to check Did people believe this?
Starting point is 00:25:46 Yeah. There was like, fuck, these guys from Mexico, man. Because, all right, like a year before that, look at your pictures. It was like Pablo Escobar Young or something. Where did you find these pictures? There was all magazines from Mexico, like, you know. They show like dead bodies and, you know, every week it'd come out and be like car accidents and murders. And, you know, just a Amarista or yellow, you know, press.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Was it called Alarma? Yeah, those things. Okay. I learned Spanish from those. You look at the picture and I go, what's it saying? You have to learn Spanish to... Oh, shit. You know, to figure out.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But, you know, you gotta know, you gotta know, learn to read it. So my Spanish and more, a lot of my, you know, than Mexican. But anyway, so... It is, it, I don't think people realize that. So, people... And, you know, they hear it, and, like, believe it. It's just so fucking raw. And...
Starting point is 00:26:42 And it worked. Fuck. They heard it and just blew their minds. I mean, they were buying this signal in Long Beach at Zed records, like 100, 200, at a time, paying full pop, taking them to Mexico. Holy shit. And it just spread. It just spread, just slow.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I mean, it just spread. There was no internet. So it'd have to wait until you see, you know, like, check this out. And once somebody tells you check this out, you're done. Mm-hmm. And I just, what? Play it and done. So it just spread on its own.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Like I told a Talanddea. You know, dude, it's going to sell itself. Don't worry about it if we play concert, that's going to sell itself. You know, just for the smashish, what it's saying is going to spread virus-like. But the thing is, it was great because no internet, and people go on bananas.
Starting point is 00:27:27 People come up, I heard, the Tom Arias, the singer I heard, you know, these crazy, you know, stories, ah, it's not Billy of Faith no more. It can't be. You know, except Dino came out doing interviews, He was like one of his albums, oh, I'm in Bruehiti. Like, oh, you ruined it. You ruined it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 He put John Brujole. You put my real name on there and stuff. Like, dude, what are you doing? What are you doing? And so what he did is he ruined it for himself. So, oh, Ossesino, that's Dino. Who's next, you know, next, next. They come to me, you know, Bruho, who's he?
Starting point is 00:28:05 That's my only band. There's no other band. You know my real name doesn't help. It's like you see my picture without the mask. No one's going to believe you. That's Juan Bruce the Supreme Court? No, it's not. That's not him.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You know, it's, you're not going to believe you. So all the attention went to Juan Bruh. Who's Juan Bruho? And it took a lot, because the internet didn't get big to what? 98? It started. Late 90s. 97, 98 started, you know, AOL.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah. You know, not like it's now, nothing like it is now. But it was, and then the internet story. would be all wrong too. Like, oh, these guys killed somebody and to make the record and blah, blah, blah. It was Monty Conner's idea. Like, let me put a story
Starting point is 00:28:48 that they kidnapped me to get signed. Like, I had to sign these guys. They kidnapped me, and they were going to kill me if I didn't sign them and put the record out. And he sent it out like that, the one with the head.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Oh, shit. He sent that out to all the radio and the magazines. And they believed it. They're like, Monty, are you all right? You know, calling him like, how are you alive?
Starting point is 00:29:10 You know, you okay now, whatever? And he's laughing. I go, no, we just made that up. He just, you know, did whatever he wanted. He wanted a piece of the action. And I want a piece, you know, he wrote it, him so, you know, Monte Muerte was his name and that we kidnapped him, made him put out the record and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And drug dealing murderous Mexican cartel, you know, I don't know what he, I don't know what he, I never saw it. He just, you know, yeah, do whatever you want. And he got mixed, now you're in. I go, Mani, you're in. You were like the last era of bands that was able to do that. Like say something and then it spreads. It has and it's a spread where it's still spreading now.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It's like, you know, it's, you can't stop it. It's a mind of its own. It's a mind of its own. Be careful. It'll get you. Tava got hard. Teva got hard. It's just, it's funny. I mean, it's like really some amazing stories that back that up. But, um.
Starting point is 00:30:09 It's, it's really, it's really. really crazy how you were able to I mean now you back then I assume you look back on Mike you didn't these weren't you executed ideas without even trying yeah you would you let's do you know
Starting point is 00:30:24 just like let's put it out in Spanish and don't use our real names I'll sing about the worst shit you could think of and and I nailed that one that one that one got nailed yeah like stuff you name how do you know I've listened the disc and I threw it to my house You know, throwing that out of the house and shit.
Starting point is 00:30:43 You know, my mom found it and threw it away and, you know, all kinds of stories. And then, like, said, no one knew who there was. It was still like, you know, more you tried to find out, the less you knew. Wow. Because they'd tell you the wrong, you'd hear, you know, they'd tell you the wrong thing. Tom Arayas, you know, Tom Array, no, he's not. Sepulita guy, sepulul'u. They never showed up.
Starting point is 00:31:02 We had the studio that were going to come by and do some songs. They never showed up. They told her manager. I go, don't tell your manager. She'll never let you go. fucking, they told her and they never showed up, sepolkulo. Seppolkulo never showed up, motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And they went, oh, let us be in Bruehita later. Let us be in Bruehria. No. No. You're out, dude. You're out. You've been fucking canceled. You've been canceled for that shit.
Starting point is 00:31:28 You didn't show up. We had, I don't know what we did with that time. But anyways. I know, I don't speak Spanish, but I know what Kulom means. Yeah, yeah. See, yeah. Yeah, there's some basic words that come and not. knowledge and shit and chis and cullo and verga and
Starting point is 00:31:42 but Monty Connor put out that story with the kidnapped him and all this and he sent it out to the like a professional you know record release thing you know the to press you know to radio DJs and all that shit and more than half of them were like what and they believed it well look these Mexican guys how could you put these guys you know and some and some that were Latino were laughing like oh no way you know this you know it's a funny thing. So it came time to put it out. And I go, are you going to have a label? Because back then the label thing that, uh, warning the stickers on the albums like parental, not for sale for under 18, whatever. That was the big thing back then. It's like, you know, it was going back and
Starting point is 00:32:25 forth and people fight them out. And he goes, are you going to put one of those stickers on us? Nah, nah, really? It's in Spanish. Who's going to know? Just like, they're not going to know. You know, Tipper Gore is going to listen to it, and she's not going to know what it says. So it went out without a sticker and fucking first day it got released. I'll call it six in the morning. Like, hey, what's that thing? Say what? Would it sell a million already?
Starting point is 00:32:49 Why are you calling me first day? And he goes, it's got banned in Europe. And they're going to send it back. They're sending it back. And they got banned for what it says. They want to sue us. And I go, you mean it worked? Who's idea?
Starting point is 00:33:02 Okay. So whose idea was it? this album cover. Come on, dude. Come on, dude. Come on, dude. Who are you thinking? Anybody else can tell you,
Starting point is 00:33:12 are you going to believe them? Are you going to believe them? Dude, I went into a ricker store and there was one of those Alama magazines and I look over and I go, fucking head. And I got it and I go, this got to be our cover.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Are you serious? Yeah, yeah. And everybody agreed, that's got to be the covers, you know. So we had to call like the guy in New Mexico for the Alistama publisher or whatever. And, yeah, one of those, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:37 So I walked in the liquor store and, like, the east side of L.A., Mexican part. Saw that, bought it, and here's our cover. And so we had to call the guy in Mexico. How did you get that approved? I don't know. You mean, like, I don't know how I got sold in the stores. That's why they banned the free. I got called six in the morning.
Starting point is 00:33:56 They were banning it in Germany because, you know, they were like eight hours ahead. And it got banned, and they're going to send it back. And how could you? We're going to sue you and blah, blah, blah. You go, what the fuck's that record say? I told you it was bad. I told you it was bad. Put a sticker on it.
Starting point is 00:34:12 It's going to need it. No, no, it's in Spanish. No one cares. Espanio. Let's la Verga in Spanish. Fucking. And then two hours later, we need that translation now. They're going to return all the Roadrunner catalog.
Starting point is 00:34:27 The whole catalog, it says Roadrunner, it's going back. Oh, shit. In the world. Oh, dude. We killed the label. I shouldn't say that. Killed the label. Yeah, that was bad.
Starting point is 00:34:42 And then it got really bad. You know, and... Okay, so this is four people watching and listening. How do you say the first album title? Matando Weros. Okay, is it true? That means killing whites. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 You know, it never was supposed to leave Mexico. It never was supposed to leave Mexico where it's funny, where it's a funny title. What? It never was supposed to. It ends up in Germany in the first day. It's like, fuck you guys.
Starting point is 00:35:08 We're sending the whole roadrunner catalog back. Fuck this label. Like, oh. In a way, I was like, because it worked. I mean, that's exactly what we wanted. It worked.
Starting point is 00:35:19 But why, why did it work? I don't know. You figured the head, and I don't know. Good looking head. Good looking title. You know, matched.
Starting point is 00:35:27 If you don't, okay. With a little bruity on it. Well, unfortunately, we can't put it up on YouTube. We're going to have to blur it out. But it's, It's that bad, right?
Starting point is 00:35:35 It's a, uh, decaditated head. Yeah, there you go. On a cover, but no printable advisory. Yeah, no sticker. And that one, stickers are the big thing. Like, oh, no sticker, blah, you know. And it was a big thing, right? It's in Spanish.
Starting point is 00:35:49 It's Spanish. You found, you found the loophole. It's wild. It was the loophole of the day, but it didn't last long. You know, they put it out a couple hours later. It's banned, getting sued and getting returned. So, um. It kind of worked out because that kind of became like your mascot.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cocoa loco, yeah, yeah. I'll tell you this. Well, I might as well go into it now. That's the head. But they finally legalized the red, you know, they censored it with the black cover and all that shit. So they let it stay released and all that shit. They didn't, they didn't return any record.
Starting point is 00:36:22 So it had a happy ending. Yeah. But it made it more like, what the hell is how blue he did you think? You know, people like, what? They censored it the first day. Like, what? You know, more virus. people like this why i got i got to see i got to see the original go good luck finding it so that like
Starting point is 00:36:40 that that was another part of the there goes the virus that way you know they want the the one with the head on it because the black one came out and that was the one that was for the rest of the time how do you do that when a record's already out they send back the bad ones and they they put on a new one with the black cover on it i mean they didn't have to print a million of them you know they probably print like a I'm not 2,000 of them, you know, send them out again, whatever. And then it's just, I have to have the original head, you know, the vinyl with the cover with the head.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And so that little part of it went out and those guys, those guys that collect the, you know, they had, you know, hit those guys. Now they're hooked. You know, you're going to get them one way or another, you know, it's going to be like, you're going to get hooked one way or another. And, but let me tell you about the head. Just do it. So a couple years passed by after release, maybe two years.
Starting point is 00:37:33 and some guys were having a party in Texas, and they were making a flyer with the head. You know, ska party, vamo'na's la chingada, you know, we'll talk to do, like voodoo, Gloscos was the main, one of the main bands, and blah, blah, blah, and they had the head. And they were making copies of Kinko with the head,
Starting point is 00:37:52 and they did it, they took their copies, and they left, like, the original in the machine. And a story came out where they found some guy dead with no head and they put a picture of the guy with the head on and it's exactly the same exact
Starting point is 00:38:11 of the Matando Wero's head he looked exactly like it I mean I couldn't even you couldn't even and they killed him the same day of that party they killed him the same day of that party and the Kenko guy like all these kids were in here making copies of that head because he saw the story he was like
Starting point is 00:38:29 they saw they were here cops go down there they get the machine they get the print they go to those guys How should arrest them for murder? What? First degree murder. Like, come on, get in the car. No, it was just a party.
Starting point is 00:38:41 We're having me. The ska parties, scah. And, you know, off the jail, you go. And then the next day, the news story came out. They arrested the murders of this, you know, the guy with the head. They haven't found the head yet, but they arrested some teenagers making copies of, you know, of his head or the pictures of the head and blah, blah, blah. And then people saw it. I'm like, that's the cover of Matando, that's the cover of Matando, that's proof.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Hibiya record. They're laughing. They're not two guys in jail. They're like, ah! Somebody called the state. That's a Bruehidiah. That's a record cover. That guy's not the same guy.
Starting point is 00:39:12 They were like, oh, what? They looked at it, like, oops. Release them. You're free to go, guys. You're free to go. You know, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:22 So that was like, you could probably find that story on the YouTube still. Oh, God. I don't know if I have it. I might have it on the brew cam. I'm brew cam 13 on YouTube and I have all these crazy videos
Starting point is 00:39:37 the same thing No no I got like 500 subscribers Something like that not even that And I can put anything I want But dead bodies and all types of shit they don't check Except the music If you put the song on there they bounce it out Yeah quick
Starting point is 00:39:52 But before you can put anything It's still there some of the shit still there Brew camp 13 on YouTube Brew Camp 13 Okay Brewingam 13 all together. And one word, see if anything comes up.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Oh, is this, is you? I think we found something. Oh, do we find something? Let's see, I can't see if you're that good. Well, there's the Trump shit. There's Trump. I'll talk about that. He said, he showed up at my house.
Starting point is 00:40:27 All right, I'll talk about that. Well, I'm looking forward to that already. I don't see the, I can't see the, I can't see this far that good, there's peace. There's no, uh, hmm. Yeah, I don't, I must have missed. There's like a newscaster guy. Well, used caster we're looking for, uh, I have to get closer and luck. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:59 You post some interesting stuff. The trumpet. You see, see that trump hit there in the left? Yeah. That was out before, when the first day, he, He got fucking, went into the race. Yeah. I was out.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I go, goes, we're going to build a wall and keep all the repists out and all the fucking murdering Mexican. I go, what? Fucking Trumphead. Anyways, and I got that Kathy Griffin, that chick that got hung. She came out with a trumpet in her hand. Oh, you didn't know that? Oh, God. That was all, every channel.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Oh, shit. Anyways, we'll go there later. We're looking, I don't see it there. I'm afraid about what we're about to go. Dude, it's got stories. I got stories. We're going deep somewhere. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:41:48 All right. It's not there. Did you delete it? I don't know where I put it. It might have been on the MISP. Rest in peace. All right. It's probably on your MISPace.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I'll send it to you if I find it. We use it as the intro, Matando Weros down, like a newscaster. We're trying to find us. the group of brujia, but all of you know, it's a new story like we use it on the recordings or the intro on the live shows. But yeah, he comes out and he's saying
Starting point is 00:42:22 they found this guy with no head and these guys were making flyers of his head and the kinkos and blah, blah, blah, and they got a rest. You know, and it's like, fuck. And the guy looked exactly, exactly like the fucking Matan de Weros guy. Shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:38 It's fucking unreal. And they killed a guy on my birthday, too, just to make it even worse. On your birthday? It was like this, but, oh, that's my birthday. What happened to him? No head. They found it with no head, you know, and here's a picture of him. It's a guy looking in a wheelchair.
Starting point is 00:42:54 To weird, that's a weird, that's a bad in a field. I know. I know. It's a weird coincidence. It's like a song, what? Oh, damn. I'm cursed. Life does that.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah. You know, you put a record with a head on it called Bruhidea. gonna get cursed. Man, this band chose you, man. Holy shit. You know,
Starting point is 00:43:13 that's what I'm saying. I gotta go through with it now. I'm here, you know, it's still going. It's still going. 35 years, man.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Wow. Shit. I could be your dad. I've been doing that. I could be your dad just doing it as Bruho. What's Dino saying there about,
Starting point is 00:43:31 oh, whatever. Oh, no. You know how Dino lies. Oh, no. You know how Dino lies, yeah? He's got anything about Fear Factor and see
Starting point is 00:43:38 you know, what's going on there. Anyways, I hope he's doing well. Shout out to Finn and, yeah, I watched this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, man. I say they played for me the other day and it says, oh, there was a newspaper line in the radio station at Loyola Maramount. There was a Mexican newspaper with Bruehidi on it.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Like, there's no Mexican newspaper in a fucking radio station at Hellam. You, what are you making shit up? Like, dude. That's where the name came from. I go, dude. Mexican newspaper line in the radio station at the Louisville, and L.A.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Yeah, it just happened to be when there. Come on, dude. As soon as we talk about, do you know the fucking let's go out. That was sick. He's sick. I know he's here. Dude, some energy's following you.
Starting point is 00:44:25 It's crazy. Oh, dude, it's big. You don't even know. It's kind of a trip. But it's good. We don't do the shows. It's just energy's blowing up the place. It's like crazy good.
Starting point is 00:44:35 You were there, the Pomona one, right? Yeah, it was great. Yeah, people are happy, and they love the shit, and, you know, doing these things. You go to an assassino show, sorry, dude. You go to an artisino show, and everybody's drained, coming out, like, suck dry. Suck dry. You are, you are brutal. Okay, so there's two people, but they are the same person, is there's someone that you are a friend with,
Starting point is 00:45:02 and there's the same person, but that you're in a band with. Yeah, yeah. Right? So how, like, how is it really being in a band with, you know? Because I just know him as like a friendship level. Yeah, we were bros for him. We had a good time. We're doing it all.
Starting point is 00:45:19 But he would have this thing where he wanted the attention, you know. But the attention went to me. It's just, you know, I wasn't looking. I wasn't, like, begging for it. I wasn't looking for it. It just happens. And he couldn't take it. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:35 You know? It's like, dude, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to, be, you know, you're much a big part of it as I am, you know, it's just, the shit's going towards me like that. And he wanted the attention no matter what. And finally he quit because he had to go do something record with Roadrunner and this and that. We're doing the Rock Alparque Festival in Columbia like five days later and he quit. I had to cancel it at the last minute. People were pissed. You'll never play Columbia again. You'll never do. And I'll tell you that story later too. Remind me, brutal story there.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Brutal, dude. Dude, they're all brutal. I don't know where I'm going to go. We're going to be here for hours. But how is it working with them, like, creatively? What? Like, as far as, like, songs. He'd write the music.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I'd do the lyrics and sing, and that's it. You're sick? Yeah. I mean, Raymond was a big, Raymond was a monster. The drummer, Grenuido, was fucking, him and Dina would sit down and just shit riffs. Just shitting riffs out, like, fucking, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:33 it's like five, slow down. Slow down. You have to tell them to slow down? No, no, no, no. They were, they were, they were just, you know, get together and just shit, you know, they'd just come out. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, as fuck, I got to write faster, you know, because it's a, you know, I only got two done. Hurry up.
Starting point is 00:46:50 You know, fuck. It was, it just happened, dude. It just, it just would happen. When you're writing songs that fast, is there, like, an element of pressure there? No, none, there's none. It's just like, you're just, you know, it came out here. You know, first time I ever sang it, or recorded, done. It's like I didn't even get to practice that just first time came out and, you know, it was all right.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I mean, if you hear those old stuff, it's like, you know, put it down as is. It was like an A-track, you know, tape player recording the song. So it was like, you know, I don't know how we got that sound out of it. It's like system up and down when they were like rookies. Where did you record that demo? We want to sound like you guys running all brun this and then. We took them to see. They were like this.
Starting point is 00:47:32 What a die? You know, it was just to die. It was really bad. $15 an hour. And they recorded. did a demo with Billy, I don't know how it came out or what, but yeah, they got signed and they're rich now anyway, so. But yeah, they all, we want to record where you did.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Are you sure? I don't think so. Let me show you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. That's sick. System of it down in there. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Anyways, where were we? I got too much to say. How do you pronounce the name of the third record? Which one? Grujidismo? Yes. Yes. Brujidismo.
Starting point is 00:48:08 That's the one who got nominated for a Latin Billboard Award. Did it? Yeah. You know who beat us? Chakira. We're in a category with Chakira. Like, go figure. I want to go just to see her.
Starting point is 00:48:20 No, I already met her before. She beat us. It was Chakida, a band called La Leigh from Mexico. Brugidismo. All right, look it up. How does... Look it up. I think it was the 2001 Latin Billboard Music Awards.
Starting point is 00:48:37 New Rock category. Oh, shit. You're not going to, it's hardly anything. There's like one website that have info on that. Billboard Awards, winners or something like that. Latin billboards or? Latin pop up a year. 2001.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Keep going on. That record came out in 2000. It came out in 2001. It was nominated for the Latin Billboard, like they come out a year later. But Chakita won it. Like, fuck, they just made that category to put Chakito. Oh, you found it?
Starting point is 00:49:18 Latin rock album of the year. MTV Unplug Shakira. She did a fucking unplug record? I don't know. I don't know anything about her. She's a little girl, though I met me. You know, like this tall, real skinny. Like, oh, a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Oh, I mean, I mean, you know, it was like, you know, it was like, you know, she was cool. She was cool. And it's like, you know, I didn't like, I thought her music was shitty. Oh my goodness. Who fucking wrote who wrote this nominee list?
Starting point is 00:49:48 I don't know. That's what I want to know. I wanted to go find out. Who nominated us, by the way? It's always some long-heard guys, the weed smoking guy in back, hey, hey, I threw it in. You know, it's always that guy.
Starting point is 00:50:00 But is it there? It's not the album the year. It was just some category new artist, Billboard, Latin Billboard Music Awards. I mean, that's an accomplishment, at least. Yeah, they sent us tickets to go to the show. It's like, you know, it was in Miami. And you went?
Starting point is 00:50:20 No, no, I didn't go. They gave me the tickets the day before, like to make sure I didn't go. Oh, we fed X them to you. Like, when? And the day before it shows up, like, well, what am I going to do now? You know, they fucked me. They didn't want us there at all to lose. You know, we'd be like, because fuck, Jacquita, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:36 They didn't make sure we didn't go. Because I had to ask them, don't we get tickets? Oh, oh yeah, huh And we'll send you some Day before the show assholes Oh, well We'll get another one You know, I'm working for that
Starting point is 00:50:52 I want to go I want another shot being in one of those awards shows With the mask on And in this category We have Bruehidea I want to be the guy in the TV Anyways, we'll get there again How did you
Starting point is 00:51:04 What did you think about those songs When you were hearing him What was the process So the same? we got fucking three days. Yeah. And then we had a couple more days because, like, we did three days. Yeah, we had five.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Something like that. And then, like, you know, two weeks later, we'd have a couple days. Okay. So, Dino did it, you know, tightened up the mix and whatever. And then vocals were coming out good. What did you think? We took our time with the vocals. What did you think when you were hearing those songs?
Starting point is 00:51:32 They were fat. And it was just brouheria. I was like, okay, that one works. That one's good. But then we were just like, okay, good. It's either. All right. Here's the test, the Bruehitya test, if the songs are good.
Starting point is 00:51:44 It didn't matter what me and Dino said. Didn't matter. What we do, we mix, you know, get a rough mix in and this and that, get it down pretty good. We call in Raymond. Raymond, we got like six songs. You got to hear him. You know, let's know what you think. So he'd come in there and he'd be all, you know, he was all a serious guy.
Starting point is 00:51:59 You know, he comes in long hair and he's sitting there like this. Like, all right, play it. And we start playing it, and he was like this like, huh? Huh? Did you? Did he say? Yeah. And he start laughing.
Starting point is 00:52:12 And he fall out of the chair. And he fucking, like, throw his arms. Like, the, the shades on the window, he knocked him off. Like, boom, oh, fuck. And he's just laughing. Like, ah, ah. And we're, you know, it's a good thing. Okay, that one works.
Starting point is 00:52:27 That one works. Okay. So next one. This is the keeper. Next one, he was thinking, oh, that was killing me. La Migra. He's like, it's like, La Migra's killing me. And then, or play the next one.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Huh? What? Ah, the point. The hook comes in. one of the one killed him was the macos. Beko, a girl singing mecos. Boom. I didn't see the guy hit so hard, hit the floor so hard laughing, kicking chairs and shit.
Starting point is 00:52:51 He'd go nuts. And that's the reaction we had to have from Raymond and the no, the song was good. Didn't matter what me, Dino said. Didn't matter. Raymond had to be, some songs he was like this. What? Is that it?
Starting point is 00:53:05 Okay, Dino's like, hit it, stop it, you know. Next. He would like go in like about, 10 seconds, and he was like, all right, that didn't work. Next, next, next. If he didn't laugh, it didn't go out. And every single one he laughed at him was big, monster songs.
Starting point is 00:53:24 But who he's one, that's a monster hit. How did you, first of all, that's a crazy process. It's great. That's just the way that. Because, you know what? It doesn't matter what we say. If he don't like it, it's not, you know, he's going to tell us if he likes it.
Starting point is 00:53:37 And then he couldn't tell us because he was laughing so hard. Never seen a guy. big guy like that laughing so hard where you know having a seizure knock him to sit the blinds off the window they go flying I'm like guess fuck
Starting point is 00:53:51 I guess he likes it you know and uh yeah that was that was great you know having doing that it's like you can't have more fun than that making music that sounds like so much fucking fun you know and now I can't get Dino
Starting point is 00:54:03 and Raymond together for my life depending you know if we did that you know what do you if we did that it'd be all over. You guys probably haven't talked in the same room now, a long
Starting point is 00:54:30 time. Oh, sorry. No, you're fine, man. Yeah, I don't know what happened to Dino, but he just fucking cut away and left us for Dino. I'm still the same guy, dude. I'm having fun. You know, Raymond could
Starting point is 00:54:48 use some fun shit. I don't know where he's at, but fucking you can't get him, you know, they would shit riffs. But anyways. Fear Factory and you guys just, you deserve so much credit what you did for like the heavy scene. Because when your band came out,
Starting point is 00:55:07 there's nothing like it. Nothing like it, dude. The Brujidea was before Fear Factory. You know, you joined Bruhidea and you became rich and famous in another band later. And, you know, like Fate Damar. Billy would tell me,
Starting point is 00:55:20 I'm going to quit, Fate Damar, it's not working. We toured Metallica. We're not selling records. You know, I might as well do Bruhidia. I go, dude, I go, it was Christmas time. When he goes, oh, I go, relax. In a couple months, it'll be the Grammys. They'll nominate you.
Starting point is 00:55:32 You'll probably win, and you'll be huge. And a couple months later, they nominated them, and MTV played your songs every, like, you know, half hour. And they got, and then, boom. Never saw them again for, like, five years. It was, like, on tour the whole time. It sounds like you and Dino or Raymond were really close friends. No, we weren't close.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I mean, Raymond, we'd only see him in the studio. We didn't hang out. you know we didn't hang out or anything just like you know record you know right shows up and leaves comes back laugh if he doesn't laugh it doesn't go out and he was he was there the minimum time the minimum time we never we never we don't hang out with dino a lot we and dino would hang out and we'd be buddies and so and um so we'd be there working the the record the songs the whole time raymond just play and leave typical drummer yeah yeah yeah And when he's sitting riffs, he started playing a riff,
Starting point is 00:56:28 and Dino's like, oh, you know, grab the guitar. I go, dude, all right, next. No one, it would be all cool, like, yeah, that was good. You know, next one. They just keep shitting them. Once the last time you were in the same room with, Dino? Well, I saw him at one festival. Hey, Dino, what's up?
Starting point is 00:56:49 And he just turned around and walked away. Like, you know, I wasn't there. He doesn't talk to me. He just runs from me. runs away I go whatever dude whatever you know I'm looking for him
Starting point is 00:57:00 whatever what's it going to take for you guys to talk you think I don't know he's got to be he's got to be down the earth
Starting point is 00:57:10 I don't think he's been down the earth for a long time I do you look at me dude you know hey let's make a record all right
Starting point is 00:57:19 you know let's go but you know I'm the easy one Raymond would come back too I think of you know but with Dino there it's like Billy had never come back if Dino's there.
Starting point is 00:57:30 He's like, he won't do it with me or Dino. But Billy wasn't really there for the meat stuff. He was like, he came in like when you know, add a couple songs, whatever. But it was good. Like, no, Billy and Dino, they didn't like each other, blah, blah, blah. Like, you know. But we get together and we make great songs. We just get together and we just, and we forget that you like them or not or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:58 and we just sit there and the songs come out. It's like, you know, we don't care if I like you or not. We're working together and it's working and it's a whole different, I don't know. It's this connection that's made that doesn't matter what you do, it's going to be good. And then it's over and then you go back to hating them. It's like, you know, okay, whatever, it's back to normal. But when you get together, it was, you know, you couldn't, you didn't want it. Like, Billy wouldn't want to do it, but he couldn't stop.
Starting point is 00:58:30 He was like, no, it's good. He did the Marijuana song, and he was in the studio at home. It's like tweaking it. Like, fuck. Because Dino didn't want to do that song. It took me a year to get him to do it. And then Billy mixes. I don't want to mix anything Dino does.
Starting point is 00:58:47 It's like, fuck me. And then, you know, he heard it. Next to you know, he's in the tweaking the shit out of it, you know, making it happen. Anyways, those were the days. It's almost impossible to keep, like, just keep the balance of everybody together. It's easy with Bruehidi-out. You just have to get rid of what you have before you go in there.
Starting point is 00:59:12 You can't, you know, Dino can't walk in with what he has on him, you know, all the negative shit, you know. If he just, like, you know, if you would just come in laughing, like, he was such a good guy when he was laughing. You make him laugh, you felt good. Yeah, he's laughing. You know, like Raymond, go, Raymond. But, you know, when Dino's happy and laughing, he's a good guy. And when he's pissed, this and that, fuck, get out of the way. You know?
Starting point is 00:59:39 But I was there, and, you know, I was there to, I was with them in the bad times, too. Anyways. I'm sure there's a lot of bad times. Yeah, but he's coming, you know, he blame everything on me. It's like, whatever he's saying now, it's like, whatever, dude. I don't even care what you say. It was like, you know, it's not. You know, it's not true.
Starting point is 00:59:56 But, um, it's too bad. It's too bad. At least, at least you guys will be bonded by, by those tunes. Those, those songs are going to last forever. Yeah, they're going to last a long time. I don't know where they came from or, you know, they just got done. They just got done. It can, uh, it sucks because you guys can't share this moment.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Like, uh, like, me and my chick were just sitting back watching Ozark and then. Uh-huh. How about that, huh? How about that? And there's a moment where they were fucking torturing the guy with loud death metal. I guess this is a thing that they do. Yeah, the cartel guys took him to kidnap him to Mexico, put him in the dungeon of the, and tortured him with music, and it was Bruhidea.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Is this it? I mean, Bruehidea was made for that. You know, that's what we want. Fuck, dude. It's like the roadrunner, you know, return the road. It's the same thing. We made it for this. How did this happen?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Somebody told it, you know, hey, the perfect music could torture a guy in New Mexico, brouheria is the only one. You can't, you can't, if you don't choose brujia, the whole program's no good. The whole program goes on the toilet.
Starting point is 01:01:15 It's got to be brouheria on that scene, dude. Come on. So some long-haired guy smoking weeds, like, is that brouheria? That'd be the good one. 100%. You know, there's no, other Mexican, Spanish band that could do that
Starting point is 01:01:28 and you believe it. You know, it'd be, it'd be the end of, you know, the show wouldn't work after that. But this is a great show. I liked it. It's one of my favorites. Did you see anything? Was there a change after this came out?
Starting point is 01:01:45 Because this is actually how I really got into your band. Shut up. It got you? The virus. It's the virus. It's still got me. Get on Netflix. I got sick as fuck, dude.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I'm affected, dude. Dude, I'm telling you, it's something out. It goes out like little buds to hook people. Years later, dude. Crazy. It got you. Yeah, that's how it happens. I mean, did you know?
Starting point is 01:02:13 It's a good thing, though. It's a good thing. You'll enjoy it. I mean, did you notice like a difference? Like, oh, shit, I mean, more people randomly find out about my baby. Why, when you, like, the first day when the guy tattooed his arm, I knew it was like, okay, this thing's,
Starting point is 01:02:25 This thing's working something. You know, I had to be the first guy with a Brue Hidiot tattoo. Like, huh? Just hours after we gave it to him. That's when I knew, that I knew from the beginning that it's just going to spread itself. You just knew you had, like our first show we ever played was 2003.
Starting point is 01:02:42 We never played a show until 2000. And our records were out in 90. So you had three records. We had three albums out and we hadn't played a show. So you're getting offers and you're just saying no to him. well no it actually well we get offers when you know I can't get the band together they're all touring but there'd always be a brew hidey up you know somebody
Starting point is 01:03:02 pretending to be brew hidey up you know passing out flyers like oh brew hidea what's the car people go it's not not brew hidea you serious oh shit they're playing out you know acting like they're brujia and this and that it would like be a disaster it didn't end nice I mean just talk about building the hype that's our first show ever right there Is it?
Starting point is 01:03:24 Yeah. Chicago? Yeah, for sure. I was born in Chicago. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's that CDI had. They were the first shows we ever did. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:03:36 You were born in... I was born in Chicago. Oh, shit. I didn't know that. There's Dean right there. He's skinny. Sick as fuck. We had, I don't know, 2,000 people.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I don't know, first show. Is that the Aragon? Yeah. How'd you know? You nailed it. Oh, wow. Okay. First show with the Aragon. What, though? How? I said, I was a rookie.
Starting point is 01:04:05 That was my first show ever with a mic. Okay, and also people, I don't know if people don't know, but this is your first and only band. Yeah, that's it. And that's your first show. That's my first show. What the fuck? He said, you know, it starts off slow.
Starting point is 01:04:22 We started out with a couple thousand people. First show. How do you do that? Dude, I'm telling you, it just spreads itself. And things come together like that, you know. It's crazy, dude. And then we'd go, like, in those days, like, our first show ever, like, in Mexico, those type of shows. It'd be, like, the Beatles at the airport.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Oh, you're the guys that are causing that shit outside. What shit? Open the door. It's like the Beatles. You know, we had to run to the van and get out of there. Like, what the hell is going on, man? It's like, what the hell is crazy? shit. South America'd go
Starting point is 01:04:58 nuts. Chile. They had a tank outside the venue, like a police tank, like a real tank. And I have 50 guys on horses like ready for the show. I go, what's that? Oh, that's for your show. I go, we don't have that in our show. What the fuck is that? No, no. They're here to, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:14 make sure nothing happens. Oh, man. The tank. But you know, like down there, the cops get the flyers and like, it's a brutal idiotic, yeah. You know, they go down there just to bust heads open, dude. They took them tear gas to everybody
Starting point is 01:05:28 and go busting heads. The cops got the flyers and they're like, yes. You know, fuck. You know, I'd hate to be down there, you know, but it was crazy shows. Okay, so, yep, there you go. Erdogan Ballroom, Chicago, October 2nd, 2003. That was that first show.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Yeah, 2003. The album's out, nominated for Latin, you know, and still in no show. No one, you know, who are these guys? They're banned for 14 years. Yeah. And that, that is wild. I don't know that, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Is it? It is. Okay. Yeah, because I never, you know, that's how it happened to us. It was, you know, I didn't know it was, I thought everything could be like that. I thought Ben Halen came up like that. Yeah, because you don't really have, like, especially what, like, your chosen, like, band. You don't really have, like, anyone to follow or, like, imitate.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Oh, dude, there's nothing. Come on. We did this because, like, there's no, there's no, all the, all the bands from Mexico and are singing in English. Like, it's just nothing. We need to give these guys, you know, at that terrorizer. We need to give them what they want in Spanish. You know, they like them, the terrorizer, the napunk,
Starting point is 01:06:37 goes, you know, you don't know the fuck language that is. It's like, you know, let's give it to them Spanish where they understand it. You know, boom. Good call. Yeah, I was like, yeah, that's easy. Call it brouhidea. That's vood. That's like, you know, don't stay away from that shit.
Starting point is 01:06:56 And don't worry about the lyrics. I know what to say. I hardly know Spanish, but I know what to say. Dude, what a show. The next show was like, there was like 200 people on the stage. Oh, anyways, it's on that CD right there. It's like you'd have to see it to believe it. So did you go from Chicago to California?
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yeah, yeah. When I was a kid, you know, my parents went back to California, L.A. and shit. So your parents are originally from Mexico? Yeah, they're Mexican. go, okay. And then you went straight to L.A. Yeah, yeah. Oh, put that Peach one on.
Starting point is 01:07:34 See that second one there on the on the right? That one, that one. Here's our recruit ads on MySpace. B.J. Peach, right? Yeah. What's this?
Starting point is 01:07:49 It's our recruit video. One of them. We had a couple of them. Dude. Wait, wait, what? Watch. Turn it up louder. Can you hear it? You want the girls? to like you?
Starting point is 01:08:17 Today I'm chingoon. I heard the brujeria? I got the power. Okay, so exactly what is the purpose of this? Just to get fans, just like be part of the brujia street team or club. Oh, shit, okay. And that was on the record, I think the
Starting point is 01:08:41 extremist hits or whatever in. And we put it out. It was like MySpace back in the day, you know, putting videos up and like that. And there was a couple of them. Like, some were pretty funny. We had a, uh, when we were recruiting guys, like there was a bunch of kids going through tires, like, you know, like a terrorist, you know, video where they're training them and stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And, you know, I sent it out in an email saying, uh, Satanic band is recruiting children for their cult and blah, blah, blah. And, uh, I sent it out. it was three in the morning 9-11 oh wow satanic terrorist band recruiting their children I go oh the FBI'll be here tomorrow and um
Starting point is 01:09:24 sent it out three in the morning a couple hours later the fucking planes hitting the building I'll I'm gonna look for that email because no one believes I'm gonna show everybody what time it went out with date what a weird coincidence
Starting point is 01:09:35 dude that was to hang me you know it's like you know terrorist satanic terrorist and recruiting oh man and that happens oh man I thought for sure they were going to come take me away.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I hid everything, you know, I was cleaning out the house. Like, fucking, they'll be here any minute now. They never showed. That time, they never showed, that time. That time. Yeah, later, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:55 there's another one I gotta tell you about the Trump. So there was a Trump one? There was a Trump one. A Trump. You got a knock? Yeah, and the guys with the bulletproof vest and the guns at the door. What happened?
Starting point is 01:10:10 They want to talk to me about those Trump singles that put out. Are you serious? Trump boys. I go to say, you're here because Trump's a, yeah. What's this shit about you're going to start to kill Trump, whatever? I go, well, we killed Pete Wilson and nothing happened. On the Raso of the other record, the intro, we killed the governor of California.
Starting point is 01:10:28 No one never killed. I was waiting. I was like this like, there you go. Nothing. When they cut the guy's head off, you know, and they found his body over and we're going to call, we're going to call, see what's up. Never called. I'm like, I'm like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:10:41 No one's ever going to call. I got a bunch of them. never called stories. So you were proud of a song and anticipate, oh, wait, there's probably going to... Yeah, yeah, and nothing ever... I mean, you killed a... You know, I called Jello Biafra. Jello, we need an intro to our record.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Now, you're a major label, now, you don't need my help from a little. You got the, you went for the money. Jello was lecturing me, like, you know, Jello Riafra could lecture. And I go, and he goes, what do you want me for anyway? So I go, well, if you would have done it, you would have been Pete Wilson, the governor. why? So we could kill you. And he was like, and I heard the phone drop.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Like, then I hear like a laugh. Like he was running up and down his house laughing really hard. Like, ah, ah, ah, you know, that jello laugh. And he was like, you could tell the phone was on the floor. I go, what the hell? What's going on? And he came and pick up the phone. Oh, BP Wilson, but you got to kill me.
Starting point is 01:11:39 You got to kill me. Because, you know, because you knew the cops would come get me. I'm going, yeah, we're going to kill you. We're going to kill him, dude. That's the intro of the record. We're going to use the dude. The next day I had a tape. FedEx, the next day he came in like, what?
Starting point is 01:11:52 He did it all. He had all cassette full of that shit. Aye, Pete Wilson. Oh my God. He just FedExed it. He was out into it laughing up and down. Dude. Yeah, I don't think he's ever laughed that loud.
Starting point is 01:12:05 That hard. And yeah, when that was the beginning of the Rossi of the record, that killing Pete Wilson, because he came up Prop 187. And like, it was like totally, you know, oh, I forgot to tell you. I met Pete Wilson, the governor. I was at a Grammy party for Faith Nomar was nominated for Grammy. And they have the day before they have a party at the Paramount theaters and whatever, really fancy shit.
Starting point is 01:12:27 We didn't know. It was like the first time any metal band got nominated. We didn't know you had to go in a t-edo and shit. And, you know, I was like in a leather jacket, brew hit your hat and a t-shirt. And Billy was like, you know. As you should be. Yeah. Billy, it's just in a shirt that you'd see him in a video in.
Starting point is 01:12:41 and we're in there and we're walking through the crowd and it was like by the bar we're trying to get out and it was free drinks for everybody so the bar area was packed with the brinkin musicians going nuts so we're going this way
Starting point is 01:12:55 and Pete Wilson's coming this one and all of a sudden he's right in front of me I go oh the governor and I said you know hey let him through man let him through his VIP and he looks at me turns around covers his wife no no covers his wife
Starting point is 01:13:07 like let's like get away get away I'm like this what I was the only Mexican in the whole place Out I went Now there's no Mexicans Out I went You know It's like
Starting point is 01:13:19 One is your real quick Yeah yeah Yeah I was like I was looking around There's no neck There's all white people in suits It's one It's one too many
Starting point is 01:13:26 Yeah How'd I go Pahua way Pahua And I go I go fuck man You know You know
Starting point is 01:13:34 I don't understand He covered his wife You know I was like You know Don't touch you Why The protector from me
Starting point is 01:13:40 You know, I didn't, I don't know. I didn't look good in the party, whatever. So I said, okay, you know, this is white people act that way. You know, I forgive. You know, I've been around a long time. And I remember the 70s. But, you know, hey, you know, whatever. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:13:56 He's the, you know, whatever. And like two months later, he comes out with these laws that were anti, you know, Mexican, anti-deport Mexicans, you know, as soon as you find them on the street. Prop 187 and all this shit. and the election passed it and the Supreme Court said they're so radical that they threw them out but they were all anti-Mexican
Starting point is 01:14:17 I go, what the fuck's this fucking doing? 187, you know, proposition to fuck up Mexicans pissed me off. So that's where we got the song where we kill him. We got to kill this fucking before he runs for,
Starting point is 01:14:28 he did run for president. You know, the words got to get out that this guy's a racist fucking by far. And he never said, he never did anything didn't send to, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:39 shut me down or whatever. why? Because he is racist you'd lose I go I'm gonna go How you're gonna fight And lie behind you know Saying you're not
Starting point is 01:14:48 You're gonna You know Whatever Well you can't really take back Kicking out the one Mexican Yeah yeah yeah We'll throw the one white guy out
Starting point is 01:14:57 With Jello Biaf We're gonna kill you Oh my God But that But that was the Pete Wilson One The Trump one The Trump one
Starting point is 01:15:08 It's like You know I had a I was like in between two hours and I was staying at my mom's or my sisters and they went to my sister's house first knocked on the doors, they had guns and a, you know, looking in the house
Starting point is 01:15:20 and all that shit because they had a ring camera and they could see them. And I go, fuck, they get the call. Where are the FBI? What's that new one called? The, I don't know what new one is. The one that they made after 9-11 and whatever, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:41 you know, FBI agent, whatever, we've got to talk to John Lepin, blah, blah, blah. And they got me at my mom's house. We're going down there right now, all right. And I went to my mom's house where it's all neat and clean, you know. You know, they're not going to suspect the thing. No, no, no mouth.
Starting point is 01:15:57 All the shit's in a box outside, parked down the street, you know, guns and everything, all the shit's out of the house. And they're so. up and they got bulletproof. My mom there's in one of those old people things, you know, the park with it's like, you know, you got to be 90 or over and, and I go, okay, come down here. And, you know, and they put on fast. They got rifles. I go, dude, what are you doing? Everybody in the neighborhood's like, what? Oh, man. And, you know, open the door. Like, oh, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:16:28 You know, and they come in, you know, you know, ask me all these questions. Like, you know, why do you hate Donald Trump? Because he hates us. Like, he's got, he hates us first, dude, he's building a wall. Shit, I'm going to say so. I'm in a band. I don't, yeah, I get free speech. I can say whatever I want. And they kept asking me questions,
Starting point is 01:16:45 and then they go to the part where they're profiling you. Like, why do you hate your family? I go, I hate my family. This is my mom's house. She's down the street. I see her every day. How come this, you know, you don't want to, you don't get along with your family or you hate your family or why do you hang out
Starting point is 01:17:02 with drug addicts and this? I go, they're in a band. Why? Why were they asking me that? Profiling, because if you fit the profile, then you're like, you know, okay, he fits this profile. He's crazy. Put him in Montanamo. But everything they asked me was like, I'm like, no, I don't hate my, I don't hate my mom.
Starting point is 01:17:19 She's right down the street. I see her every day. And, you know, and then, you know, I forgot what other question, but it was all stupid questions. I just answered the wrong way for him. And they couldn't get anything on me. I go, stop the profiling. Dude, you're wasting your time. It's a joke.
Starting point is 01:17:33 You want to take me in, take me in, and make me rich and famous. I'll be on CNN the night. Oh, no. I'll be on CNN. I'm like this. And the guys, I guess like, oh, or we're going to go. When I started talking like that, they things got up and left. Sign a paper saying, if I'm crazy, they're going to take me away.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I sign it, and you're not going to find nothing. So they came to take me away. Profile me. They looked in my house, look at my room. There are guns in here? I go, no, I'm not trying to raise an army to go against Trump. I go, fuck. I'm not doing what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:18:06 because of a single that you put out? Well, there was two of them. There was two of them. One was like a year before the election. When he first said he was in Greenbren, I came out the next week with it. We're going to build a wall. Oh, fuck you, you're going to build a wall. It's that bad.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Mexican rapist and cartels killing Americans. Like, well, come on. It's like, my whole family crossed the border like that. And they're not no rapist or killing, you know? What the fuck are you coming out like that, you know? You know, it's a murderous, you know, Mexicans and blah. You know, it's like, fuck. So he pissed me out pretty good.
Starting point is 01:18:41 And we came out with the President Trump, you know, like he won the election and he did win. I never figured that, but he did win. And it looked like a good thing. Like, oh, look, President Trump, you know, President Trump, you know, he's a year before. He's expecting it. We killed him at the end, but no, it's just giving him a haircut. cutting that hair off oh okay and um
Starting point is 01:19:07 it's a brutal song too it's a great song like damn this is a sick ass single it should have been on like a record or something yeah there was like 600 singles or whatever different color ones going out and uh the second was a marikon sard like a Russian he's in with the Russians there's a video of like some Russian hooker
Starting point is 01:19:27 pissing on his face and a in a jacuzzi I don't know if you ever seen that piece of art but um that was going around for a while. Like, oh, dude, he's fucking in with the Russi. He's him and Putin and some hookers pissing on his face. Oh, there it is. Marikon, Saar. Amarikon.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Is this the cover? That's a cover, yeah. Actually, what's even more impressive is that you had a label to back it? Like, I would assume they'd be like, hey, maybe you shouldn't put it. Well, it was a single. Like, what are they going to do? Just tell us not to sell it. It wasn't on an album. Another loophole. We didn't put them on the albums. I told money.
Starting point is 01:20:01 You know loopholes. Don't put on the album because they'll pull the album. album, you know, but the single they could pull all they want, and then people want it more. They pull it, like, what'd they pull? You know, it's like, what was it? Why'd they do it? You know, the more wanted than before.
Starting point is 01:20:16 So, yeah, no, he sent the fucking, you know, FBI down on my pad. Who do you think, yeah, who do you think found that song and then sent someone to? And, you know, they have, Trump has a lot of those moments. They're online.
Starting point is 01:20:33 you know, looking shit up, like anything with Trump and it's all, you know, it's going to be bad if it's not good. And the first thing was President Trump. It's like, oh, you know, you're thinking about Trump being president before he's elected, you know. So I got away with that one. That one went clean. But the Amadi Konzhar one, with him with the Russian uniform on, it didn't work.
Starting point is 01:20:57 It came out right away. Shit. They came out quick. And then I told him, hey, it's been like eight months since that thing. came out. What's taking you so long to get down here? I was waiting. I've been waiting for you, you know, seven months. I gave up waiting. What happened? We got a lot of work to do. And he just looked down because we got a lot of work to do. There's a lot of people talking shit about Trump where they have to go check it out. Because he's Trump because so Trump knows
Starting point is 01:21:20 about this. Not coming to see. Yeah, he's heard. Yeah, he knows. He's the one handpicking who you're going to go get. So Trump knows Bruehidea. There's a little virus going out. You know, the people looking for Bruehideh shit to say it's bad or anti-Trump. But the new album has a Trump song where it's, you know, I'm missing the hate I love. It's like I lost the love of hating him. You know, I want him back. It's like I miss him. It's a song about I miss him.
Starting point is 01:21:48 I miss hating him. Every day I woke up hating him and, you know, just hate and feeling good. And now he's not president. You know, I miss that hate. I love the hate. You know, I hate I had brain. Every day I'd wake up mad. You know, what's he doing?
Starting point is 01:22:04 What's he doing? And I miss that. That's what the song's thought. I miss him. You have a very creative mind. And you... I miss the love. And what's also special is that you actually put it out on music.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Yeah, oh, yeah, it's out. It's gone, you know. I came out in the COVID days, I think. You know what's also kind of lacking in our genre is a... like bands, artists are just, they're just scared of getting political or saying what's on their mind for whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:22:40 They don't want to divide the audience that they worked for. And it's very rare that artists like, like you, that just fucking says it and does it and boom, there it is. I got to confess, my favorite band as a kid was when I was a little punky was Dead Kennedys. And the way Jello comes out talking about shit about, you know, politics and all that shit
Starting point is 01:23:01 just, like, blew my mind. And so, Dead Kennedy is my favorite band. Like, fuck, you know, I want to be like them. So all our songs are, like, stories. I'm singing long stories, whatever, you know, doing it like Dead Kennedys would. And one time I saw an interview with Jello,
Starting point is 01:23:18 and it said, what's your favorite band? And Jello goes on the left, it's Brue Hidia. And I go, fuck, that's my... Dead Kennedys were my favorite band. And now, he's saying that Bruehidea's his favorite band. band. I go that one was one of those moments, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The lights turn on and you floating around. You're like, what
Starting point is 01:23:37 the fuck? Yeah, yeah, brujia. And I go, fuck, fuck. And the reason there's brujia is because Dead Kennedy really was a big influence on that, you know, all the shit they talk about and didn't care. They're a great band live too, fuck. Yeah, it's been a long time. Why did, like, what
Starting point is 01:23:57 happened to our music? Like, or It just sold out. It's just sold out. You know, something's sell it easy and they make money, whatever. Do the, you know, dies, do the next one. You know, it's like, whatever. I've only done brewery. It's like, I just do what I have to do.
Starting point is 01:24:13 You know, if I'm pissed, I'm going to sing about it. You know, it's not going to get away. You know, Matando Weros. It's like, we've been treated so bad, you know, me as a kid. You know, I felt it. And that's not just something I see. It's like I'm part of that hate and here and take this, you know. Here's how I feel.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Matando weros, you know, and, I mean, it works for, if you're, if you're Latino, Hispanic, whatever, you hear it, and you're going to love it, it's going to hit you. But the American, you know, the Galatra types and the haters, they're not going to like it at all. You know, you know, if they don't like it and they really get pissed off, you know, what kind of hater they are, you know, so it's always been that way. It's going to be like, you know, how I feel. If I don't feel it, it's not going to be good music. Yeah. Not at least on the vocal side of it. Do you think it could come back?
Starting point is 01:25:03 Do you think that there can be a band newer or even already existing that could kind of just... Someone just needs to start that. It would be a miracle if there was another band like how this started. It's like, first show is, you know, thousands of people, you know, everybody's telling, oh, it starts slow. You know, I'm like, oh, does it? And it's weird. I don't know. Everything I've experienced is like one-of-a-kind shit
Starting point is 01:25:32 that I don't know of till like way later. It's like, you know, I didn't know. Things were like that, you know. Your band's one of a kind. I don't think there's going to be another one. I don't think it's possible. We hit before the Internet came on, so that made it really hard for, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:49 the experts to figure out, you know, who's in the band and all that. And when they find out, it's like, Billy goes, what? You know, it's like blows their mind even more. It's like, you know, because he became big, big time with Faitne Moore. And Fear Factory, too. They got big.
Starting point is 01:26:03 They had their time, too. And, you know, carcass came on, and then all of a sudden, they came back big. You know, everybody that's been in Bruhidiad, joined Bruhidi up for even a little bit, leaves, and their other band gets huge. You know, Shane came on with Napal. Naepam Deh, they fucked it up.
Starting point is 01:26:21 It's going down the toilet. We owe money for, blah, blah. I go, dude, just do this tour, and it'll help you out. And boom, Naipam Death turned around. got big and got out of their hole. You know, I could keep going with the list of bands, but, you know, a lot of them,
Starting point is 01:26:37 like there was no Fear Factory when we started Brew Hidia. You know, that came later. And then, like I said, Billy was joining. He was going to quit Faitna Mawr and just do Bru Hidia because I can't, Fait Namor is not working. I go, what? And boom, you know, so it's a little magic that you come in and it hits them the right way
Starting point is 01:26:55 and things turn around for him. Yeah, because Fitha Moore has been around since 83, right? They've been around, yeah, they went to high school with two of them. And it was Faith No Man and sing. And then they did one record with the old singer. When they did the new record in 1989 or 90 with Mike Patton, is when that thing started turning around. But it didn't hit until they got nominated for the Grammy.
Starting point is 01:27:18 And that's when they blew up. Wow. So we were out there with Governor Pete Wilson in front of us. And, you know, I'm like, you know, I'll tell you this story. We were doing at the Grammy party there. We took a lot of cookless doing here. We got to get crazy. So I tell Billy, I'll go in the stall.
Starting point is 01:27:37 You wait outside the stall. And when I come out, I'll give you the shit and do it. And so I'm in the stall at the Grammy party doing coke and shit, just shoveling it in. And then all of a sudden the bathroom gets quiet. And I'll make it so, why is it so quiet? And I fold the shit up and it's not. There's a vial.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Put in my hand, I opened the door. And I opened the door and it was Pete Wilson. and I'm like this, like, giving him, like, you know, maybe he thought I, you know, shake my hand or something. And he looked at me like, I was just frozen. I was like, there's two secret service guys behind him and the governor right in front of me, and I'm giving him fucking cocaine.
Starting point is 01:28:10 And fucking, uh, uh, and he just goes like, he's like, ah, like, don't touch me. Like, you went like that. Like, don't touch me. And I was like, what? Get out of the body, you know, this and that. And they pulled me out and whatever. But he went through his hands in the air and turned around and said,
Starting point is 01:28:25 don't touch me. And I didn't know like, what the hell was that about? And later on, we met face-to-face and he covered his wife. I go, he just hates Mexicans. Because, you know, I've always been the brown kids. So it's like, I already know when people act like that, what it's about. It's like, okay, that's what that is. That's easy.
Starting point is 01:28:46 So, but, oh, and then going into the stall, I would do the cook, and wait for the stall door to open it. It's that achy-brakey guy. What's that guy? Ake-bricky guy. Who's the guy that the dad of one of the girls? Come on you? What the achy-brakey guy?
Starting point is 01:29:03 Cyrus? Billy Ray Cyrus? Yeah. Jay, great job, Jay. He knew. Yeah, yeah. He's coming out of the stall and I'm going in. And I go, hey.
Starting point is 01:29:12 He goes, howdy, how oldie? He's a nice guy. Hey, man, you want any Coke? Yeah, he already had it. Oh, he already had. Okay. He's already hitting it. Got it.
Starting point is 01:29:21 And he was coming out and going in, all right. And then it came out and it was the governor. And I'm like, oh, dude, Billy, everybody took off. Everybody was outside the bathroom. And I'm in there giving him Coke. Oh, man, what? Then I got away. I didn't let me go.
Starting point is 01:29:37 So, you know, something's taking care of it, but I don't know how I got out of that one. Insane. Dude, I've gotten there still a lot of shit. Insane. There's a lot of shit I got to tell you that we've mentioned, but we haven't gone back. It's a lot of shit. Okay, you said remenchant, Columbia. Oh, the Colombian thing.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Yeah, so, Dino Crids to band. And they go, we got the festival to do. It's like 80,000 people. You know, we're the headliners. You know, we look for somebody else to play guitar and do it. You know, it just came through.
Starting point is 01:30:13 And you'll never play, you'll never come down here again to play this, blah, blah, blah. That's unfortunate, man. And so, like, probably like about four years later. I call up, talked to one of the prisons there, and they were like this, well, when's Bruehidea going to be on there, thinking they forgot? No, they said never. We'll never have Bruehedia.
Starting point is 01:30:34 For what you did before, you know, they're never going to think, you're never going to think, so don't even try. Ah, whatever, man, that's bullshit, whatever. And, all right, so the next day was the festival, and they opened up the festival, and then all of a sudden it started hailing. And it hailed for, like, four hours, like four feet of hail. They closed down the festival and they couldn't reopen it because, you know, there was like three, four feet of hail.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Ice everywhere. They had to cancel the show. People are like in the port-a-potties to cover it up from the hail. And then they couldn't get out because it was so, you know, they were trapped in there. They had to cancel the whole thing. And they called me up the next day. You think Bruhidea could play next week?
Starting point is 01:31:17 I'm like, what happened? You said, never we'd never play there. Well, there was a storm. They had to cancel the whole day. And they needed a band from outside because the government won't unless there's an outdoor, an independent, uh, uh, foreign band that comes in the play. And they couldn't find anybody in a week. Huh.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Bruheria. I go, oh, now you want us. The very next day after telling me that shit that, you know, you'll never play four feet of ice. Four feet in Columbia in the middle of the summer. There's, there's a picture somewhere online where there's a bus going down and it was covered, like, more than halfway with ice. Like, just see the back of the bus. The rest of it's buried in ice. Four hour hail storm in the summer, and they canceled it.
Starting point is 01:32:03 We're going to have it next week, but we need a foreign band or they won't do it. And we went and did it. How's that for like whatever, you know, you'll never, the next day, the next day, ice. A lot of changes in one day. Yeah, the weather. Yeah. But, you see anything online? I think it was at 07, 08.
Starting point is 01:32:24 0.9. Rock Al Parque. Rock Al Parque, Colombia. Especially this fucking business. A lot of changes in one day. Or if you make people sweat. Yeah. I learned that. You got to let people sweat, dude.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Well, we've sweated a lot. They hate us in some places, you know, love us and others. But that one was crazy when they said, you never play in the next day they're calling. Could you play next week? Oh, my goodness. You're fucking kidding me, right? You're fucking bullshit.
Starting point is 01:32:59 You tell me that, you know, we'll never play. Yeah. Anyways, it happened. I'll see if I could find the pictures of those. All right, well, I guess we could wrap it up soon. You say you don't do any warm-ups. What, for the shows? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:17 No, what for it? Too old. Too old. Just go out there, whatever. It's going to come out the same anyways. I don't got a voice. It's gonna be out there just yelling and shit in Spanish. You just take...
Starting point is 01:33:27 You don't warm up that shit. Let me be warm in nothing. Cabronas. Two bomb America, cabronas. You know, you just go out there and do it. I don't give a fuck. Got it. You know.
Starting point is 01:33:38 You got your two bottles of Mexican cough syrup and your... That's right. I got the Mexican copsyrup there. Is that true? Instant League singer. Yeah, yeah. It's fucking miracle. It's like honey and shit.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Like, it's good for the throat. It's Mexican cough syrup. Yeah, yeah. It's like poison. but, you know, it's good. It's really good. It's fucking taste like shit. Okay. Savela futa miherda.
Starting point is 01:34:00 So, binkich, creme of the fucking... Anyways. Okay. But it works, man. It clears you up and stuff and, okay. Gets you ready. That's the warm. A shot of that shit warms you up.
Starting point is 01:34:12 That's it. Oh, man. Any closing thoughts? Well, I could come back later and tell you the rest of the stories. Yeah? I'm on it. Dude, there's a lot of shit, dude. I mentioned a lot of shit.
Starting point is 01:34:23 There's a lot of shit. still coming. If I want to come back and bring some of the shit, I'm talking about, like, the head cut off, the ice and the Columbia. You know, there's different, you know, I could show you the proof. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:37 You know, because it'd be good to show the proof. I forgot all about, you know, doing something. Let's build up the evidence. Well, you know, if you drop this show in January, if people like it and want to see more, then I'll come back. If they don't even give a rat's ass or say, fuck the Mexican. Oh, my.
Starting point is 01:34:53 You know, you know, I don't. I won't bother coming back. It's up to them. It's a podcast. Let the people decide to see that a gente, see regress or no, eh? Oh, oops. Oh, you're fine.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Bro, it was an honor to meet you and get to actually sit down and hang, man. Dude, I'm telling you, man. I got more to say, but let the people decide. But I have fun doing this in English, too. First time. Thank you so much for doing that. I'm sure that people really appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:35:22 I hope so. And then they might, you know, Trump people come in and kill him. Oh, no. Kill him for Pete Wilson or for Trump. And kill Garza, too. Oh, remind me to look up to Kathy Griffin. Just look up Kathy Griffin. We're going to end with this.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Kathy Griffin and the head, the Trump head. Just look that up and I'm leaving. Okay. Just look that up. Look it up. Look it up. Get on the screen. Oh, what the... That, that are...
Starting point is 01:35:46 What the fuck is that? The photographer was a metal guy. He goes, hey, you want to do some crazy... I saw some metal band holding his head. And she did it, and they hung her out to dry. She's like, career-ended. She committed career suicide right there with the head. And she says, metal bands are doing it.
Starting point is 01:36:02 I'm going to say her name, say her name. She came out with Gwar. Oh, no. So close. So fucking close. Gwar just ripped it off from us like years after. And, you know, oh, yeah, we came up with the idea like Clark. Oh, you're so close.
Starting point is 01:36:15 And then, what's the suicide sign? No, no, no. Some other band from came out. Municipal Waste came out. Yeah, we had the head. Nah, you didn't. No, you didn't. That head's ours, dude.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Maybe next time. And she came out and they hung her. They terminated her career. She got canceled. Maybe next. Every channel. Every channel in the news had her. Cancelled.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Yeah, they blanked out their trumpets. You can't tell her who it is. Oh, my God. Kathy Griffin. They never, I was there in the fall and like, never rang. Wow. They figure, metal bands are doing it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:49 You know, here's my 15 minutes. I'll be on CNN, you know, tonight. Holy shit. They called Gore. Like, oh, the Gore phone rang. I got to tell you, there's some energy around you. Literally, like, there's a, literally a, literally a mini earthquake just happened right now. It's so far the lights went out.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Just give me a head to hold. We're talking about Trump, the fucking, our building shaking. What? Oh, my. Okay. It's real, dude. You got it. You got, you with Bruea de ass shows, they just, you just found energy out.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Earthquick power out. Your power energy out. I think, I think we're ready to end this. Where can people find you? You can't. You can't find me. I don't have any... I've got no bullshit, you know, profile or whatever.
Starting point is 01:37:30 The band? Yeah, we're going to tour in Mexico. We're going to do a festival in Mexico at the Pyramids. Okay. And... Pyramids? Yeah, right on top of them, actually. It's like right there.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Wait, what? Yeah, I don't know. You want to feel energy. Go there. You know, get in an energy, the Caminante Festival in February 17. That's going to be high energy. let's call it.
Starting point is 01:37:55 So anyways, that's gonna, I can't wait to do that. I'm gonna, she goes, it's been by the pyramids because we're playing with a bunch of, like, hip-hop bands, pop bands. And then brew hidey, I go, it's like being nominated with Shakita. And, um, uh, it's right by the pyramids. Oh, we gotta do that. Shit, that sounds like, fucking, that's, that's, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:14 I don't know what that's gonna be. It could be, could shut us down in a hurry or it could just blow up a pyramid. I don't know. But then, you know, that energy wouldn't, you know, That's what I got to deal with. That's sick. It's good, though. It's good.
Starting point is 01:38:27 And people see it in negative, but no, it's really good. For a whole, this, this life chose you. And I'm honored to be a part of it. Thank you. I'm glad. All right. I don't want to thank you. That's it.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Later. Adios, I've gone on this.

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