Garza Podcast - 113 - SNUFFED ON SIGHT: Bay Area Dummy Death, Metal Culture & DIY Scene

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

Garza sits down in-person with Bay Area, CA band SNUFFED ON SIGHT. https://www.linktr.ee/Snuffed SPONSORS: distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! emgpickups.com Promo Code: Heavy 15% OFF! SNUFFED ON SIGHT is: Seven Kane - Vocals Walid Gad - Guitar Spencer Metela - Bass Laike - Drums CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Peelingflesh Are Good Dudes 04:46 - Archspire is Sick 06:51 - Touring w Peelingflesh, Van Troubles 10:52 - GoreC*m 12:44 - Band Culture Now vs Then 16:13 - Live Stage Sound 20:26 - Laike Doesn’t Have an Inner Monologue 23:53 - Bay Area Dummy Death Metal & Genres 30:02 - Changes in the Metal Scene 32:58 - Slipknot 38:03 - Seven Doesn't Drink Coffee 39:44 - Mesa Cabs Are the Best 44:34 - Snuffed On Sight Started in 2020 45:54 - Is Second Hand High Real? 47:21 - Snuffed On Sight’s Growth 51:40 - Dummy Death Metal is Complex 53:39 - Band Chemistry & Respect 55:50 - “Slippin” Music Video & DIY Scene 1:00:38 - Writing While High 1:04:51 - Closing Thoughts

This just called dummy death, and it's like kind of not, to be honest, sometimes. Yeah, no. That's the dumbest part. That's the funny. You guys do a lot of counting. It's just like, it's like, d'n, don, done, done, done. Like, that's what it is, bro. That's a sick song, dude.

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and save 30% off your membership to get all your songs on all streaming platforms. And now to the heaviest podcast of all time. I think it goes along with anyone, no matter how much money you're making or not making. I mean, you got to know what's coming in going out, dude. 100%. You don't want to be us. and is figuring that shit out and seeing where where my money go yeah oh wow I'm broke

oh my goodness well we have real bay shit snuffed on site here sir appreciate you guys being here thank you thank you man oh yeah thanks for having us sick i heard i heard about your band through peeling flesh sounds about right so they they got me i mean i've been hearing the band from Eddie and I really, I mean, peeling fleshfully made me like pay attention. For sure. I know Eddie's been putting on for us pretty hard. Yeah. The last like six months or so.

So I was hoping to catch on with the rest of y'all at some point. I mean, given the area. Yeah. It made sense. He actually came over to a while he'd spot like a couple months ago. That's the first time we met him. And I wasn't there. Yeah, he was working.

What was he came over to my house while I was at work because he just, he wanted one of the no clown shit shirts. Oh, yeah. And, yeah, they just hung out for a bit. Got back from work, and they're like, you know, Eddie was here, right? And I was like, could have invited him to the restaurant I work at, but okay, but. Dang.

Shout out Eddie, bro. He doesn't, he don't got to, like, put on for us like that, and he does. That's, like, that's mad cool of them. And, like, appreciate you putting us on. Yeah, we just, we just hell appreciate it, bro. I don't know any other way to say it, yeah. I appreciate your time, and I've been telling bands, I mean, constantly, like, I'm learning from you.

it's weird now we're all at the point we're learning from like each other yeah you know it's crazy

it's a weird what we call that circle full circle or like a life is weird dude we're all

way older than seven not to put you on blast but seven's the youngest member of the man he started the band he writes everything and we're like

23 guessing cool we feel like we learn from every day I feel like it's the first time somebody's guessed it

right I think yeah that's like a while Well, you guys Makes my job difficult You only have like You have like no interviews You had like a couple

I said you're 22 I'm like okay I put I'm added some act In my head That was that long We're in We're right now Yeah we haven't done too many

I think I've done One podcast interview With a fucking scope exposure Yeah It was like it Yeah we haven't done much Hmm Why this guy's fuck it

Shit Hit us up You know what I'm saying Hit him up dude I've been up. The thing with us, dude, a lot of people, and we still get this sometimes,

but I think sometimes people are like, yo, does that been, like, for real, play shows? Like, do they still play? Like, are they, like, real? And then we play, and then people are like, that's crazy. I still don't believe it. Like, I don't know. It's, like, really funny because the music's really ridiculous

and, um, I don't know. I think we try really hard to, like, do a good live. And then they see it, and we kind of pull it off. And they're like, there's no fucking way. I don't know. So, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe we're too mysterious. I don't fucking know, dude

No, it's good. Whatever it works. Keep it. Yeah, for sure, man. You know, you want to keep a little bit of a mistake. I think also the thing that bands are doing now is they're not They're not tagging people No. So I'm literally trying to find all you I'm like I'm just I'm not just digging and like Instagram. I was on someone's TikTok earlier. I think was yours I was like I was at work. Am I hard to find? Yeah. Oh, okay. I found I found I found I found All you guys. Wait, who's the hardest to find?

You. Yeah. Why is that even a question? Disappearing to the forest after every tour. For real. Yeah, I found like five drum covers. Sick. That's it.

It's the only tracing. Yeah, for real. What's up with you and Oxpire? Because you both have covers of that one band. Oh, yeah. We talked about it doing it together for a while, but, like, it just... Super synced up. Yeah.

I think I just got hell into them in like 2019, 2020. And I was like, well, shit, I got to try and learn something. And then... What are you going to start? So what's the hardest man we could cover right? Yeah. I mean, yeah, it was 2020. We weren't doing anything.

Yeah. Yeah, and it still took years. Yeah, for real. I think, yeah, you put it out what? Like last year? Something? It was this year. Oh, Christ.

Like six months ago, maybe. Yeah. That is some intricate stuff, dude. I couldn't do it. A band's not real, bro. Yeah, they're crazy. Speaking of my band, that's not real, yeah. Yeah.

They're crazy. Like, I'm not much in the tech theft like that, but, like, I think they're one of the best to do it. And, like, I don't know why you would try after them. They're, like, they're literally just, they're better than everyone. I think people stopped. I think everybody stopped talking about. Yeah, no, that's true. Yeah, that's true.

That's true. shit this is tech death that's what it's gonna be yeah no one needs to do it after that that's good yeah once there's like that there's like that there's like well and one is gonna get us straight out yeah that that's the way to do it that's that that's what we should do bro yeah it's good it's got a feel about peeling flesh brother they're they're their own real and every time they put something out I'm like well all right that's that's that's about it then I don't know what I'm doing here you know I mean they're fucking They're unreal, bro.

So, who sent me a song this morning. And I'm like, bro, fuck you. Literally. Yeah, we damn near broke up. Yeah, I just like, what are you supposed to do? They're fucking, they're unreal. And they've been that good since day one. Mm-hmm.

Our fifth show ever was with them in Texas. Mm-hmm. Like, and they've just always been awesome. Nice as dudes, funniest dudes. They're just, they're unreal, bro. They're fucking, they're sick as fuck. And you both have clabs with each other on songs. What was, I couldn't really find it clearly.

So what's your connection with that band? They kind of, we just started playing shows around the same time, and we were kind of the only slam bands playing hardcore shows at the time. So we did a little run in Texas, like early 22. Yeah, 2022. Right. Yeah, so we just went and did like three, four dates with them and hit it off immediately. not immediately actually

we didn't we thought we pulled up we pulled up we pulled up we pulled up and we thought we were not about to be like rocking with them yeah

not this isn't even anything like that bad oh my god we love you guys yeah we I love feeling so much we pull up it's like cold as shit it's my first time touring in years

before we were about to hit it I thought I was I was going to like just kind of stop touring because I'm like, I'm getting old, bro. I should probably, you know, you know, probably should need a call today. And then, you know, I joined this fool's band, which he was nice enough to let me do. And then

he's like, we're going to Texas. I'm like, all right. I somehow get a deal on a van, and then we just, I changed the oil and we fucking go to Texas. I don't know how we were getting there. I don't know. We're just going. I don't know. I don't know how we're going to get there. This was before I was even the man. So I get there. I'm cold. I happen

to get fucking sick. It might have been the pressure change of something, but I think it was just for my first time touring in It's the worst. Literally, it sucks ass. Yeah, and I was like so sick, like pounding headache. I just, you know. Is it, it's the band?

Same one? That is the band. Oh, yeah. That's pretty much the end of the van. Yeah, RIP. All right. Oh, yeah. She's hanging on barely, but, yeah.

Oh, that's not another one. That's spot, yeah. So we pull up. I'm sick. I have to play, we don't play this song anymore. I have to play G. on what I had before a seven string and my hands are small. I'm not that much of a ripper and like, bro, that's not, I was just like, I was just in a shitty mood.

I pull up and feeling is just playing slam music so loud, bro. And I was just cold and I'm like, bro, like, I can't do this. They just bumping it in their, in their whip, like all five of them just. Yeah, just the same way we're like, dog, where are they? The same way we got introduced to them is the same way. they left when on our last day, all right, bro, because y'all the homies, y'all team, bet, all right, bet, all right, all later, bro.

J'n, jill, jim. Like, the first meal we had to get out, you heard a gorgum, bro, ah, fuck, I, like, my... Gorgum? No, gorgant. Gork cunt.

Sorry, I don't know, I'm a little, but, no, that being said, like, they're all so lit, they're all so fucking funny, like, I rock with all those dudes so hard. They deserve everything they've gotten. And I'm really stoked to see that they, they, like, killed it on your guys' store, too.

They murdered it. They showed me what, like, what Slam's doing. Yeah. I was on the word. It's like, I was, oh, okay, this is, there's something neat happening here. They're the best Slam man. They are the best.

Yeah, they started a new wave and they finished it. Yeah, pretty much. I don't know how you can use that many samples and not be fucking corn balls. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. I guess just don't be some dorky white kid.

That's probably, that's probably, yeah. They're super fun. Like, I think they turn anyone to a believer. Like, you don't even really got to be into metal like that. And people be like, I get it. Like, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, shout out to that, bro. Okay, collab EP.

You ready? Okay, collabiep. Gorghum. I'm sorry if I thought that that's what you said, and now it's just ingrained in my brain probably to I die. There'll probably be some dorky white kid that will take that band name, probably. Yeah. Hey, Jay, type in Gorgon.

It's gonna be a great. Okay, don't look at the images, but there's got it, it's gonna be a band name. Band, put band after. Bad, band, no, God. Computers melting. Oh, no, there's Gork. Oh, no, there's Gorkock. Oh, they got a Christmas album.

That's a Christmas album. Compassion. Oh, my goodness. Let's fucking go, dude. Can we hear this? Oh, no. Shots out Gorka. You know what?

I'm very... Because I always make fun of band names. Like, you know, I want to sort of band called like Gore abortion or Gore Bordier. It's like, combined dumb words. Yeah. But I'm surprised.

That's not a band. Yeah. I am surprised. I bet if you go on band camp. I mean, by the time this is posted, it's going on. Yeah. Someone needs to take it. You guys need to take it.

It's a new side project. Take it. Put out a, put out of it. single like today. Oh my god. Oh, that's a sick logo though. I got the fake character. We might as well hear it.

I just ruined this podcast. I'm sorry. I am blown away by this band name. Yeah. This is crazy. Bring them on. The Facebook clip, brother.

Here we go. Oh, this is every. goorko song played it once let's go we're in too deep dog can we are we

are we can play this they all have intros okay that's definitely an intro what the fuck okay okay we're gonna give up yeah my goodness dude what a

the times are so different from like early 2000s like where you hear a band and then okay we're actually gonna be become friends and work together. Way back, they don't know. It's like, oh, fuck those guys.

I mean, it still is. It's like, I feel like it's easier and harder than it's ever been because, like, fools will not rock with each other. Because, like, I don't like the way he posts. I don't like the way he tweets. And then y'all meet up and it's like, oh, bro, that's the boy. What? Br, I hated you when I first.

Ah, no, you cool, bro. Like, why did you hate me? Ah, just because you post that one thing. Like, you didn't like that one terror record, bro. Like, so I didn't know that rock with you. I've seen careers get ruined on Twitter because someone had a bad hardcore take and everyone's like, alright, fuck that guy's man. Nope, fuck that guy's man.

Whoa. It's crazy. It's nuts. Just because of someone's like opinion? Yeah, not completely ruined, but like people have been like, all right, bro, we didn't really rock one about four anymore. It's weird. It's different for sure. It's something I've had to like... Twitter funny. That's shot.

Is that... Is that weird that's how we're wired, where it's, if you don't know someone in person, you have like this, what is that? I think just, because you present yourself one way on social media, and then people are like, oh, so he thinks he's like this, oh, he thinks he's like that, like this, like that, and then, I don't know. Like, I don't know where the preconceived notions about us, we're literally all stoners, and there's really only one stoner. I mean, it's not like we don't make it seem like that That's true Interesting You would have never think I'm like

The trade-age dude in the fucking band You know what I mean? And why was I surprised? It's weird Yeah I don't know Because I'm fucking annoying Dude

I'm out of nauseous This is full crazy, bro I think you're cool Thanks man I'm at no name for about It gets old It gets old It gets old

You know what actually I think I'm over it now just hit the limit I'll be the first one I get hold real quick with me I know that Dude if I'm high I'm like You like you just overthink everything

I'm like am I'm being annoying right now Shut up Nobody likes you Yeah I'm gonna Sober? Sober? Yeah it's sober

Yeah it's bad dude Oh my goodness I have a good time I feel like I try to have a good time I try to You know Otherwise it wouldn't still be touring I feel like I wouldn't

Still be touring And all this If I didn't know how to like conduct myself and, you know, just be somewhat of a pleasure to be around with everyone. As much as I can. Unless my guitar tone isn't good, then I'm throwing the biggest bitch fit

known to man. See how he shook his head first? He knows. What happened? If he doesn't feel like he sounded perfect that night, I know. He doesn't. It's either, oh man, that was juicy. It was juicy. Or if it's a bad show.

man my shit's kind of sounds this kind of sounds kind of thin huh? I won't play a millicine it'll just be in a bad movie for the rest of the night until we get somebody to eat yeah

unfortunately for you that is where the beer comes in we're like one sleep you're like what the what's they saw it sounds it's out of it's a fire out there

man but that's I think that's just me in general I overthink everything but well there's something that you can't control you can't control

the room exactly sometimes like you'll is play and like it sounds fucking thin. You're like but like the stage and the room there's just something about it and sometimes some other rooms would be like it's like it's juicy

yeah you know it's like my juicy right now thank you thank you bro. I feel like I feel like I talk to people and I'm like oh shit not juicy shit not this shit not that and they're like bro you were thinking I'm like no bro when you see a band and the tone is crazy and it makes you want to kill people that's different you know I'm saying sure when the tone is

You know what I'm saying? That's the key. When you got Lake snare over here, you know, loud as absolute shit. Lake has the loudest snare I've ever heard in my entire life. In my entire life. That was actually one of my questions for you.

I was like, what snare is that? It's a custom. It's a custom snare. So I had a Benny Grab signature snare that I absolutely loved. These guys are ready to just kill them. That's cool. I've heard this.

Three thousand times. Yeah. I love this thing. So, my name. I love hanging every single time. This thing dies in the car crash. Like, my car gets hit and the snare cracks. Oh, no.

And so I was like, okay, what am I going to do? I don't want to buy another one. They're $1,000. So, like, I hit up this guy just random. Like, it was his name, he ran by, like, Bellwether drums. I don't think he's doing it anymore. Just made me, like, a stave beach shell, but it's got roundovers on the top, which is crazy.

Because, like, usually drums have, like, 45s, like, the bearing edges and the thing just like it's too loud but I love it like it's just a monster it like people try and mic that thing and we just laugh yeah they like when the sound person's like oh I can't get like your hi-hat's kind of weird and I'm like don't worry about it it's it's gonna be fine it's totally fine so it's just loud or is it like is it like like like a high-end loud it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's a 13 by 5.75 so same as the grab. But it's, there's just something, it just projects really well and it's got a really nice,

tight, dry tone to it. It's, I love that thing. I'll never get rid of it. Yeah, it's crazy. And you always hit it right when I take my earplugs out. Yeah, it was the first edition, the one with the, uh, uh, that bottom right there. Right, the one to the right of that. Right, boom.

That was the one I used to have. I love that thing. RIP RIP RIP Hmm Yeah drummers They're

Too loud Yeah If I Like I have to give them Fair warning Before I even start playing Or else I get the looks You have never done that once

You're You hitting that shit Is my reminder to put your book Yeah exactly Oh Yeah It sucks because Like you spend it all the time

First of all you have like probably one of the shittiest jobs you have the most gear and then you spend all the time setting it up you want to appreciate your hard work and how fucked up is it that the moment you get to enjoy it you want to enjoy it you're gonna piss off you're empathizing with us too much the moment that you get to enjoy it we get pissed because in your in your head you're like what the fuck why why's you playing drums right now idiots idiots yeah so so you so you so you just gonna go play drums bro while we're the worst guitarist's back there anyway I wish there's like a volume up seriously yeah it'd be great

but sucks yeah you can't like it's like you spend all the time setting it up and you can't like and then people will look at you for playing what you just set up you got to like you gotta like You gotta sit there like hands crossed. Like, hey, man, wait. What are you thinking about? What are we doing? What are you thinking about? Okay, how many...

Like, tell them what you told us about your brain activity. About what? Your brain activity? You don't have an inner monologue, right? No. Yeah. No, I'm a blank wall. That's crazy.

Excuse me? They don't have an inner monologue. You know, some people, like, you narrow. narrate your day like throughout your head or you have like a voice in your head like like like like I'm gonna get flack for this huh but like no legit like when people say like oh yeah you know like the voices in my head or like you know like the shit going like you know my thoughts I'm I have to sit down and try to get a thought going really and it's it's like imagine like you know in cartoons when when they go into like liminal space and it's like a blank room that's like

that's like that's what it feels like and I've got to like try like really really hard, and I get like a whisper of like half a sentence. I'm like, okay, cool. You never, you never just been like what? Like inside your head? No. Yeah, Jay, go back to the previous.

It's funny because I was just thinking about the yeah, yeah, exactly. Hello. Okay, so fuck that's that, right? It's okay, so 30% to 50% it's common for writers and artists to have conversations with themselves. Very

true. That's all we do. and I should know because I sometimes have conversation limits okay so actually um 30 to then you would then half don't yeah that's so maybe just people don't talk about it huh well they can't think about it so they wouldn't be talking about their voice in the head this is what people ask people ask uh hey jac go people ask is it okay not to have it internal monologue oh no oh like that not everyone this born without one Do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing? It's bad.

Is it? Yeah. What? Memory? Yeah, like, I have to go by muscle memory. I can't really, like, think of things, like, going on during songs. I've just got to, like, drill that shit. Whoa.

Yeah. So you have to practice. Yeah, and I can't, like, if I hear a song, there's no way I'm learning it by ear. I have to chart drums, and then, like, I read the charts. Whoa. Yeah. Like I by ear Can't do it

Show me something I forgot about it Mm-hmm Dang That's That's fucked out Boom Gone

In one ear out there I'm operating like an insect out there Yeah That's the one That's the one Yeah that's That is Lake's head That's the type of shit

I've been on this one Is this you? Is this you? Put a fucking drum set on there Real quick Shout out to us Square word But I thank you for that insight

I did not know that I mean I guess like 50% of other artists don't have that internal Conversation I did not know that Yeah shout us out in the comments Blank mind people come on Yeah It makes sense because

If you don't have the internal monologue, then you're not going to talk about it. It makes sense. So you automatically think. I don't be thinking, too, but that's why I like this family. That's what I like that. Well, speaking of not thinking, Bay Area dummy death metal. Pretty sick. It's sick.

Yep. This guy. Do you? Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, you know. Where'd that come from? Um, I, I mean, people always argue about what we are, like, what genre we are.

Oh, guys, the worst. Yeah. It's like, there's endless YouTube comments like, no, they're slamming beat down core. Like, fuck it, it's, like. Yeah, dude. It's just like, I don't know. I didn't, when I started this, I wanted to be a mix of all, just all the hard shit that I like anyway. So there wasn't, I wasn't trying to be in.

like one subgenre. So once people needed something to call it, we just kind of, we just kind of came up with the name. Yeah. To just just kind of made, make fun of it in your own way. Mm-hmm. Make it easy.

So you went into it without any kind of like idea. Like, I don't want to do this, I want to do that. I don't want to. I mean, I started it like when I was like 18, just like wrote a couple tracks that were just like, I don't know, I just wanted it to be like like slam, but also like

fucking I don't know, all the like hardcore shit that was like Zabalba fucking like nails and shit, I don't know. So it, yeah, it was kind of just random from the start. So.

Sick? Yeah. It's kind of makes sense that nobody would know what to fucking call it once it got anywhere. Yeah, even like listening, there's no like, yeah, you can't, I can't like put anything to it. It's good. It's called slam. Pretty much.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Dummy slam? Is that sick? I'll take it. Call it anything you want? Dummy slam's pretty cool. At this point, like, there will be, we play the more metal shows every now and then, and people will be like, you guys are, like, more beat down, right?

Like, you guys are, like, hardcore dudes, and it's, like, sure. like I'm very hardcore that's the sin I come from half of us yeah and then like we play a hardcore show and they're like yo so stoked you guys made it we know you're used to playing the big metal shows

you know we're like like what is it bro you know what I mean which was funny because all we have done since we first started anything was book with hardcore promoters and play hardcore shows like even the

Vaugham of Fourth tour was us Simulacra Vaughamma 4th like those are all pretty much hardcore shows by hardcore promoters, you know? Sure, some people that, like, Mike Metal and shit like pulled up, but like, you know, spin kicking and all that shit, like, which is what we

fully endorse, you know? I think we played more hardcore shows than we played metal shows for being a... Oh, 100%. Yeah, but... Thank far. But, like, 90%. Yeah. We barely play metal shows. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. Not that we don't want to, it's just kind of like where we find ourselves in. And hardcore shows are sick as fuck anyway. Way more fun. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know, it's cool. Like, we do all this and the music's really crazy and kind of dumb. But we'll still have people be like, yeah, you guys are like real death metal.

Finally, that's what the fuck I'm talking about. I'm talking about this all the time. I can't believe that, like, metalheads now are so into breakdowns now. And you see the, like, just the like, I guess, I don't know, the smattering of just everyone, like, rocking with this shit. Like metalheads will be at a show and kids will start speaking and they're like, oh, fuck, all right. Okay, cool. It was not like that before. What the fuck?

Really? Yeah, dude. I know because I was a metal head first, but then I, you know, I got into hardcore shit. And I've always loved metal, but I always feel like I kind of didn't identify with those fools because I'm like, bro, like, I'm not, you know, like, I don't got like a patch vest on and all that. Like, and I'm not all about, you know, this and that, whatever. But like, no dis. I'm just not about that. but like

anyway, I don't know what the fuck I was talking about about. Oh yeah, but like, anyway. Are you high?

I might be. I don't know. It's just cool playing hardcore shows we're metal but like I fucking love playing hard shows. And I love that

metal heads like breakdowns now. Anytime you see a metal head and any show on the hair breakdown they're like so weird. Yeah. Now they realize

that they like breakdown. Exactly. Yeah. They like to pretend that they don't. Yeah. Is that weird that a lot of metal heads

pretend hand they don't like something. It's so bizarre. It is fucking weird. It's like you, it's totally in your DNA to fucking do move like this. It's your DNA to move in 4-4. You know what's crazy? Metalheads will pull up to our shows and be like,

what's with the fucking spin kicking? What's going on? It's like, brother, listen to is, is that's kind of the objective. Like, real real. Yeah, there's blast beats and really fast parts, but there's always, usually ends in a fucking breakdown. But I don't know, I think that's just the world we live in now, which is cool. I like it. But it's like,

just interesting because back in my day I know honestly what people have against breakdowns bro I knew fools like that I knew fools like that I like you know I like Lamb of God I fucking like a mirror I'd be like no none of that bad word bad word bad word shit you know what I'm saying

like it's fucking I don't know dude when it's like no brother that shit's hard bro but diamonds aren't forever by bringing the horizon was a crazy song to be released in what 2010 or whatever the fuck that's a crazy song for that time

ahead of their time yeah if they were all like burly dudes with beards and look like Vikings metal heads would be like oh that's fucking yeah

they wouldn't but because they look pretty and they're good looking dudes they're like ah you know but I feel like that's changed out it's so

it's so I can't even process that it's weird time time to change in yeah what's the biggest change change you've seen because you've been around that

band's hanging out out. Yeah, that's a plus. That's kind of cool. It's a no hesitation. People being friends helping each other out. Less ego, which is cool. That, like the metal heads,

being more open-minded to break down. It sounds fucking silly to say, but it's, I mean, it's, it was not like that. If you were, like, back in a day, you would have, they would try to combine, like, our hardcore band, or band similar to our bands with like six feet under and like just it was just

wood and trans lit yeah it would just not well now it's like that would be a sick show like they were like hiding it though like deep down they'd be like yeah yeah yeah around their homies yeah bro yeah no yeah I feel it they all yeah they all rocked they go into it thinking it's like emo this and that whatever the fuck and then they they hear it and it's harder than anything they listen to really is Like, truly. They won't admit it. No, it's so weird.

Yeah. But then again, I mean, who knows what's going on in their brains? Just lambagado. Oh, no. I did do, like, an elitist kind of death mental podcast, and I was very surprised at, like, this one's going to kill outside. And we were in Santa Ana, baby. I did it because I thought the guy was cool, and I saw the,

I thought it would be cool to have an open combo. It was great. I think his fan base liked it, but I was also shocked. Still, like, there's still, that metal head, like, mentality elitist, like, this style sucks. Like, this groove sucks.

I was like, what? Is it what? Yeah. This is still going on? My God. Somewhere. I know. And I do have a hot take.

Oh, shit. Uh-oh. I said, I said already. Well, what was, Because when you put it in groove, you start bringing out chicks to shows. Mm-hmm. And you're so crazy. There's only one, maybe one there, and you're fucking pissed.

Fill to the brim with dudes. You know, they're like, dude, that transition was really cool. It's like, that's cool, bro. Thank you. What strings do you use? To be fair, if someone asks me that, I do kind of go off. I'm like, oh, bro, I use this. Of course.

You live off of that. No, but, hey, I feel you, dog, like us, at the end of the day, if I can speak for the objective is come through, shake your ass, and get stupid. We'll get crazy for a little bit. But, like, no, it's always... Yeah, have fun and breakdowns. You know what I mean?

It's fun. Yeah, exactly. Party. Isn't that why we start playing music in the first place? Exactly. Have fun. You know, it's funny because you're... Especially you, like, you came first metal, right?

Yeah, metal and then hardcore. And I'm just to make sure of both. It's mostly hard, but yeah, that was a mental first. That's kind of how it goes. Yeah, right? You mention when you're lacking inspiration, you'll put on the first slip knot. Is this still true? When did I say that?

I did a deep dive. You're crazy. That's crazy. Nard warge your ass. Oh my God, bro. Yeah, yeah, usually. Usually, bro. That shit's just, is hard as fuck.

I feel like that album is what it's. aggression is, which is why I think that band resonates with so much people because what's the old saying, if you try to satisfy everybody, you satisfy no one, they're like, look, we are just fucking this, we're angry as shit, we have awesome

choruses here and there, but we're angry as shit and I think people just resonated with that. You got, you know, you got Normie homies who are still like, yeah, that's just so sick, bro, yeah, I like slip-knout. They don't like metal that much, but they like Slip-Not. Because it's just super easy to identify with. It's just pissed, and

that's it. You know what I mean? That's why I think that album's always like been so inspiring. It's just, it's angry, it's crazy,

it's melodic, it's fucking disturbing. Scissors is like a crazy song. That song's fucked up. And then the bonus tracks are like low-key even better. Like get this, bruce.

Oh snap, dude, the fucking demo track? I love that song. Dude, I'm gonna snap right now. I fucking love that band. It's cool.

Hey, when you're lacking, being inspired, like, you just have like these, you have like your go-toe records that kind of just, they'll fucking snap you back, dude. For real, for real. Like, I feel like for me, it's self-titled,

Iowa, Master Killer by Marauder. Them first two fucking Nails records. Fuck, dude. That's some good shit, dude. Yeah, just hell of shit, bro. I just, yeah, fucking,

um, that first, First, I forgot the fucking album is called. What am I blanking? Maybe I am high. That first Spinebreaker fucking album. Spine breaker? Spine breaker?

I never heard of that, Ben. I can try it. They're really seen. They're from the Bay. They kind of were doing the death metal with hardcore shit before anyone high. Are you serious? Spinebreaker? Yeah, they're hard as fuck, dude.

What's their, what's their, uh... This dude's from Gulloch and Sunami and shit. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah, they're hard. Spine breaker, dude.

Shout out to Sunami and Ben. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yeah, yes, sir. Yes, sir. When was Ben in the band? I was just thinking about that today. The last time he played with us was over a year ago.

He's still... For what, two shows? Yeah, he's played with us twice. I think after the second show, he was like, cut through you all on my bio? I was like, go right ahead, right? Fuck, yeah, dude. Not gonna hurt.

He's the homie. He kept it in there. He hasn't played with us. I don't even... What was fucking... fucking uh the new parish

yeah that was the last one was the last one and then the last midnight hour show yeah that was pretty much those are the two shows he's playing

great yeah that's our boy yeah I love that he's awesome he's the best well you're actually playing there tonight I'd never been there

it's so sick yeah the vibe the vibe is super good there like it's uh because I think dude from ACDC owns it, runs it, and you know, just gets it. ACXDC to avoid confusion.

Oh my God, bro. What this happened? I think I just broke edge, right? You know, I do from ACDC runs it. I think I see why you don't smoke and drink. It's all coming together. I'd be a problem, dog.

It would be so bad. I see it very clearly. These, bro, learning these songs sober is already like, like, so hard. hard, bro. Is it? Yeah. This shit's called dummy death, and it's like kind of not, to be honest.

Sometimes it's fucking very difficult. That's the dumbest part. That's the funny and a lot of counting. It's just like, it's like, don, don, done,

done, like that's what it is. That's a sick song, dude. Okay. I'll probably do it. It's cool. That's some stupid ideas.

Yeah, yeah, we don't have that way. Um, not like, um, yeah, see, forgot what I was talking about again. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. You got some gas on their nephew. God, damn.

Someone fart? Yeah. It's cool. That's why I like the long-form conversation, because you learn a lot about people. Yeah. At least, you need at least 45 minutes, dude. And you kind of get like the personality. Okay, let's see why, okay.

Okay. Okay, that person's a druggie. Oh, that person is a fucking alcoholist. Six beers Deep in half an hour Seven What I thought I heard you

That you don't like coffee I don't Not like it I just don't be drinking it like regularly You just drank coffee on the way here You just drank coffee on the way here He's drinking coffee right now I think he talks nice on coffee

Late to the podcast By the way Is it's a Vietnamese Ice Coffee I kind of got him Put him onto that That's what's my That's my straight-edged version.

That's my straight-edge vice coffee. Okay, I got a question for you. Is caffeine straight-edged or not? Yes, I will not elaborate. Because I'm fucking insufferable, and I just will not elaborate. That's kind of hardcore. No, oh, yeah, please. Like, no caffeine?

I cannot. To be fair, there's times where I should be chilling on the caffeine because. You're going in sometimes. It does. I go in way too much sometimes. That's all you got. But no, I'll leave it in the time. I'm not going to be like,

that is all my gosh. That and good guitar tone, that shit will get me fucking high. Fucking, the tone of the tone is crazy. I'm like, just fucking high on music, dude. Two mesas, br. Two Mesa cabs.

Two Mesa. You got, I saw, I saw, I saw triples now? I don't want to rock a triple wreck. Right now, I just using 655. Okay. Yeah. I did. use a dual wreck though

the homie from stabbed we played with stabbed in Long Island in Long Island sorry Oh long long on line I'm sorry Oh yeah come bro We played with We played with stabbed and he let me use his dual wreck and that shit sounded

fucking crazy and I'm really picky with Mesa's but when Mesa's do sound good they sound better than anything on the fucking planet but when they sound bad they yeah no it is I hope you're not like a sponsor right now I love Mesa Mesa. Mesa

All day, bro. Give me nothing else for Mesa Cabs. See, see, bro, don't get me sorry. Mesa Cabs, that's when I know the show going to be good. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. If every venue just had Mesa Cabs and a fucking 8 by 10, bro, like, life would be better. I want to fuck a Mesa Cab.

You don't have one? No. What do you rock? Okay. I mean, no, I say I want to fuck one. He wants to fuck one. Oh, shit. Yeah.

No, but, dude. I'm sure he got one. Do you? Have you heard of, like, the, the problem. them with the macy cap shortages. No. I've been looking for a straight traditional or I don't know how

fucking long. Dude, the straight, the straight fucking, so sexy, bro. I've never been able to get one. I've never, and if you do, they're like so expensive. We know, we know you want this, bro. I've never had, I've always, you know what?

Because the straights, people never sell them and then the fucking, um, the slants. Okay, it's, okay, that's not too bad. But that's the thing. I know that thing is only like 500 bucks. My slant? Sure.

Sounds just about the same. But, and dude, I bought that shit brand new from a dude that never used $500. But because it's straight, fucking cost so much more. But I do want it because it looks so fucking sexy. It sounds great and you can't fucking find him. We're just on tour. Every town, wake up going off up, nothing. It's a thing.

I've been looking. Oh, you were trying to find them and just fucking get in. I want two of them. I can't even find one. Shit. Here, once every few days, I'll go on opera up and money here. It's nothing. Damn.

It's a, it's probably been going on reverb, eBay. That's crazy, dude. It's, it's a thing. Am I going to buy this thing brand fucking new? Two of them? Do it. Also, what sucks about, what sucks about new caps too is, like, they need time to, like, why? We're going to break in the speakers.

Break in. I've noticed that. The most recent one I got was new. I got it, like, four or five years ago, part of four years ago. And, like, about six months. months into it after heavy's then it started to like kind of set in totally people can say it's fake but fuck them like no i i i believe it you know i feel like it's got it you know whatever it's a it's a feel thing for me i'm a really feel guy like i feel juicy yeah big jukey you want to kill

someone i'm not i'm not gonna i'm not gonna you want to yeah dude i don't want to yeah it's a feel thing like i think i think when you put a new battery in your guitar with either MG pickups, I think it sounds different. Right, EMG is sponsored by this. Of course. Yeah, okay, I bet. It sounds different. It sounds like, when you put a fresh new battery, that shit sounds crazy.

Right? What? You don't go be laughing when that shit sounds fat tonight, right? They're laughing at me and Todd playing. They're like, God damn. I'm like, I'm saying, I told you. No, you're right. You're just funny.

That was so funny. Spencer, you have any of that? Hey EMG pickups man You gotta get it going People People say They don't like EMG pickos

But they're capping Because they all do You notice how every Conversation has ended in town Really? Everything comes back Oh so since you don't have Internal monologue

You're very absurd You're observing hard That's sick I'll be careful watching like a fucking horny hawk for sure I don't know about that

I just I'm sorry I'm sorry Shout out Soto Yeah Shout out to the horny hawk dude HHH Pause

Pause That was for you Soto I love you Pause Yeah that was I asked them So what What does that mean

It means when something gets too heavy. When something gets too gay, bro. It can have multiple meanings. That's how we use it. Thank you. One more before I ruin this pleasant thing. And they're on, I mean, it's 50-50 in this band. Yeah.

You know. We haven't half. Yeah. You want to guess? with the gay half of his band is. Pretty hard to tell. Right, seven, we've got to talk about it. So, the band starts in 2020.

Drop the demo, like in the summer of 2020. Only three years. Mm-hmm. How did you get here? I don't know. Only in three years? Kind of nuts. It's wild.

I don't. I don't, this shit has gone so crazy. I don't even, we, we have no idea what to make of it. It's fucking, this shit stupid. It's cool, man. It's been amazing. Yeah. We didn't even play a shit.

I mean, we dropped the demo and, like, during COVID. So, like, and then I wasn't able to, like, get a band together and play shows until, like, the fall of the next year. Like, everybody had, like, the whole summer coming back and everything. I was, I was still getting ready. and shit. So like we've only been playing shows for like two years. Yeah. Yeah. Just two years? Yeah. I think our first show is

October 2021. Yeah. Yeah. I had to book it all myself. Yeah. That's how it's done. The tour was that summer, right? Uh, summer after. Oh, Texas. It was in January. January. January. Like the next year.

Oh, you high? Maybe now because you got that guy on. Got that gas. Got that loud pack, bro. Got that premium. That is pretty premium. It's weird. Yeah, shit.

Is second high, second hand high, is that real? I think so. Ask Khalid. Probably. Unfortunately. I got to take off my straightage tattoo, but I got to take that shit off. If you type in is second high, second hand. high real.

Line 6. Insane mode? Yes, right, you're speaking. I belong here, get that picture off the screen. Can I experience psychics such as feeling psychoaccomics? Is it just infants and children?

I don't know. That's a good question. Awful. That's okay. It's being second hand high straightage. It's not like you'd

like you'd you get second hand high on purpose to like that's so you you'd never broken edge like if it's ever happened

it's my fault and like you know what I'm saying he's good he's good I hope you are great I try to be

you're being you're being sick it's cool it's man it's it is very humbling where this is gone because like

I thought when I joined the band, it would just be like, all right, we'll be like the homies, like, slammy band that we'll play every once in a while, like, that hardcore fools kind of get, you know, like, I thought it was just going to be like on that type shit. And like, like, to just be on this podcast, to have Eddie rock with it, to have other fools who are like, crazy musicians rock with it. And for people to keep showing up constantly to the gigs is like, damn, bro, like, like, this is crazy. It's just mad humbling, bro, because, like, yeah, we don't look ourselves at as no way and shit. We're just trying to have fun. We really just try and play as best as we possibly fucking can. But, like, for people to rock with it, like, yeah, the show yesterday was played in Bakersfield and, like, you know, 150 paid. And they said that was the most they've ever seen in that venue.

Because Bakersfield is still, you know, kind of growing, and they're kind of starting to get a DIY scene going. You feel me? Shout out, buddy. Shout out, Sam. Shout out, buddy from Bulldog. from for booking that fucking shit appreciate y'all but like

it's just really cool to like I don't know people just keep coming out it's fucking crazy every time we play show we're like what the what the fuck like we played after our van broke down we played all the PNW and fucking yeah I fucking Idaho was sold out

Washington was sold that that's just it's crazy bro it means a lot you know I mean I I was I was ready to give the shit up like I was just like you know not completely but I was like I'm a work and just do the music music on the side and then just kind of like see where that goes eventually but I'm not going to hit it that hard I'll be in a local band it's all good and then we started touring and the tours were good because people actually were there and I was like wow there's no way like this is crazy

you know it's cool man I can't really say it's just mad humbling you know it's mad cool especially at a time where there's so many bands like yeah that the fact that you got out of that great bands and like you still broke out of that mm-hmm yeah there's a lot right it's rare It was very cool It's very cool How? I mean I think it's because we're different

Like I don't know bands like us Or body box Peeling like There's nobody else That really sounds like that So it's just kind of easy to grab on to

Yeah That's a thing Like your band has to sound a little bit different Yeah for sure A little bit different dude And it's got I mean it's kind of the point now where

people can take influence from whatever they want and nobody really cares like it can just be like a blend of whatever just anything it's so sick yeah nobody's like sticking to I feel like

I feel like post-COVID everyone like got the stick out of their ass so to speak and everyone's just trying to have fun they're being like way less haters everything's less like like I don't know gate capped, everything's less like compartmentalized.

Everyone's just like, you know what, bro, if it's hard and it's fun, fuck it. I like it. You know, you see bands playing together now that you would have never believed playing, you know, all kinds of bands playing together, and it just all makes sense. You feel me? I rock with that. We can play tonight. Yeah. It's a weird-ass lineup, but it's super soon.

The lineup today is insane. It's same way. And it's going to work, and it's going to make sense. You feel me? Like, I fucking, I rock with that. that shout out everyone that's fucking playing tonight too shout out pull your card right shout out play your card straight up

that just looks violent it's it oh my god I hope so I hope so Kev commenting fly out shout out that news is awesome

yeah big shout out shout out shout out Louville dude fuck yeah when you see people moshin dude fuck back in a day when people

won't go off. It was like, damn, there's something that's made you go hard or it. It brought something

else out. Yeah, dude. It's my favorite thing in the whole world. That's why we do it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like this primal,

you know. But it's funny when it makes sense, but how do you say it? It makes sense, but it's funny when it happens when the kind of music

that you're playing shouldn't enliq that kind of emotion. Yeah, you know? For sure. Like, because I mean

I always were joking earlier about like the tummy death but I mean the music is complex in a way you know dude learning slip and ruined a month of my life like I'm super fine with being transparent with that like because I was always a hardcore player I had you know I always had a decent right hand

for show you hit me up right he called me he called me multiple times just saying like I'm not if I can do it he seven wrote the song Dummy and I was like well he's gonna kick me out

I can't do that I literally thought he's gonna kick me out respectfully like I'm super ruled myself if I can't deliver a song I'm not gonna like like you know be weird about it but like yeah I just I just had to like lock in and like it is hard dude but like it's made me I feel like it's made me a better player so what was it or what could you do it's right hand stamina

it's just da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da like you know and every riff changes dund do do do do do do and nah like it's just like it's like so like it's just hard for me I might be a slow learner I think I've always kind of been a slow learner so and on top of all just other shit I'm doing like I think it's just brain space is kind of limited to but honestly those songs are hard slipping was it was a very difficult song I had to learn it like I had time learning but it was within three weeks of our music video shoot where I had to like lock that shit in and I just I just take it seriously because I don't like fucking I'm not like the the Sharper's still in the shed, but, like, I don't like when bands go up there and phone it in, bro. Like, sound good, play good, play clean, play the parts that way it's supposed to be. You know? What, you... You go and play sad but true, but not palm-muted, bro?

Not, palm, you play it the right way. Like, you know, I'm just super, you know. Of course. Gotta sound juicy, bro. Yeah. You sound very, like, particular. I am. It has to be, like...

I am. Aren't I, fellas? Yeah. Yeah. That's the worst. I think so. Yeah, that's one word. Would you think?

Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I guess pretty bad. I think it's great. But I feel like I try and catch myself and just not give these fools that much of a hard time.

That is the main goal and being a band. How do I not piss off the other? Exactly. If I'm angry, I'll just shut up. They can tell what I'm angry. I'll just... Hold to you?

Because I'm 28. We got a good dynamic. I feel like we all kind of balance each other out pretty well. I'd say so. Absolutely. Ooh. That's called growing up. You just take your minds, you're all,

you want to say something stupid, but that's your mind stopping. That's called a healthy mindset. That's cool. And that's love that you have for each other. You know, it's like, that's what I realize what love is. Like when you meet someone else

that stops you from being an idiot. Honestly. It's painful, but sometimes you have to hear it. someone 100% that means they fuck they rock with you like that so I'm like don't do this you know what I'm saying like they're telling you for a reason you know but sometimes they can come off

condescending but like I don't know truth hurts you know I mean but it's good for you of course and then for some reason herdy makes makes you better 100% I don't know what I always say this pain is a great teacher

well yeah is it not yeah it's a great teacher unfortunately That's the only way some people learn. Totally. That's a Wal-Heed classic right there. It sucks. All right, don't listen to me.

All right, you're going to learn, though, bro. You know, all right, do you think, but you don't learn, you know. It just sucks how we have to wear that way, though. Like, we have to experience something to change. It sucks. Yeah, dude, you're telling me. Yeah. You can hear it a thousand times, and then it's just the one time that happens to you.

Yeah, okay, that's it. That's enough. Yeah. Exactly. Those videos are sick. Yeah. Who is it? Oh, shout out Kevin makes videos on Instagram.

He shot my roommate, my brother. Again, that's Kevin makes videos on Instagram. He shot this video. Also, shout out Alex Hunter, the homie. She plays in a band called Present. She shot fucking second camera. Shout out Alex, Pink Boone Media on Instagram. You feel me?

They both helped this video. And, yeah, we packed out probably 150 people close to that. In a Burger King? No, an ex-burger Turned into a wing shop In San Francisco And everyone came at like 6 p.m. Just had the homies and forced to suffer open us

And then everyone was out by like 820 And place closed down, what, like a month later? Yeah, dude They was like, yeah, you can smoke in here. Yeah, they didn't go. Kevin came in, our video guy, He came in and he saw that there was lights And he was, thank fucking God there's lights in here.

I don't got it said of it. Yeah, he was really strong. This is, I'm so. proud of this fucking video. You see that table right there right in front of us when we're playing? Like we, they told us we could take it out and then we get there the day off and they're like can't take it. You're going to have to deal with it.

Really? Yeah, it's bolted into the floor. Yeah, it was fully like cemented in there. Kids were jumping, yeah, you just jumped off of it was fun. Yeah, there you go. Oh, it kind of worked out. Totally. Yeah. So they probably assume, oh, wait, is this table meant for me to jump off of? I mean, pretty much. It's kind of sick. It's funny because we were having this extremely deep conversation now I'm just looking at

moshing. It got me. People getting fucking trampled. Yeah, dude. I'm so proud of that video, dude. I'm so proud of that. Yeah, it's so fun. San Francisco. San Francisco. What's it been you out there since

the pound closed down? Oh, man. Dude, the pound was definitely before my time. Yeah, pounds bit down for a while. But after, I think after the pound, we had submission, which was like the only true. That's another one I heard. Yeah, the true DIY sponsor.

So then when that closed down... That shit shut down right before I started going to show. What's the one that you saw us at? Code word? Code word. That was only around for a second. That was like... That was some shit that the dude from DNA started doing, like, on the side.

But it was sick. That shit was dope, but then it just... He had to shut it down immediately. He was like, ah, no matter. Yeah, that day rent goes crazy. Is that logistic? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, there's not much. Much like in the city. It's pretty like... Great American musical, but... Nothing for bands like us. Nothing for bands like us, though. Parkside. Ish.

You got like spots that are good for like... More like kind of DIY stuff. And like kind of like just once in a while. I know Thrill House Records does matinees. That's where we first saw Hog. Shout out Hog. That's dope. Harcrow punk from San Francisco.

Got the knockout, which... It's a bar. and it has a really kind of tiny stage, but they make booking there hell easy. Like, so easy. So shout out them. But as far as other spots in San Francisco...

Not much in the city. It's just like... It's scattered. Every now and then some will pop up and then... Gilman is back in Berkeley. Yeah. So that's dope. That's pretty much where all the shows are at

at the moment. Sick. Yeah. Which is so sick. I mean, they're not having to be like half capacity anymore and shit. It's fucking so... It's so...

popping every time. I've been really enjoying going at Berkeley. Yeah. It's nice there, bro. Good place to eat. The vibe there is always cool. The shows are always really good. That's where most of the venues are, honestly. Yeah. Cornerstone there and shit, too. You see. Mm-hmm. I think Cornerstone is like low-key of perfect venue. Yeah. It's so nice. It has a big old-ass

lounge, big room, balcony. What's capacity? It's like 600 caps. That's pretty big. That's pretty big. But it's like, it's dope. I like it. People like going there, which I think helps. reminds me of our of a showcase theater like six hundred cap room oh god

sick and then people were just fucking swinging our arms around yeah Gilman's always a fucking vibe though that goes well I was saying it shut to Berkeley

UC theater came out you know my they're a showcase theater I think it was my first time can you smoke something on stage really I think it was Benny's fault too actually

Think about it. That's crazy. I never smoked before, show, never, ever, ever. He will smoke a blunt anywhere. It doesn't matter. Yeah. I'm thinking, anyway, nobody's tall enough to stop him. Just go like this.

That's snatching out. Anyway, anyway. Do you, do you write high? Yeah. Sick. And then what do you think? I do everything high. Then what do you think when you hear it?

I'm I somewhat arrange a little bit because he's like bro I just what's going on with this part bro I just and I'm like take out that kick right that's fucking all he's like oh shit but minimally it's very minimal I just kind of well help him when he's just like what the fuck because you know when you write your own shit you don't what the fuck it sounds anymore so you have to have a homie be like what is this bro and they're like oh bro just take that and you're like oh wow okay it's like that yeah I don't yeah I don't I got to get better at program drones and I think I can like write some more but I just keep it up to him and then he just kind of brings to me and I'll just be like that's that's cool maybe do that part like twice that's my

that's my contribution sick as I was wondering like you know how uh how you've been especially after your self-title EP I was kind of wondering like how was like how that process has has grown um well the whole yeah the EP I just wrote myself I programmed all the drums and everything and that you recorded them pretty much I think exactly not pretty much exactly you sent them to me seven days before we went in the studio and I was like I don't have time to spice this up it's just I'm just gonna learn the songs and go in so yeah week apparently seven days my goodness mm-hmm I had the way I didn't send you no demos or no something I had the the demos but they were

different they were That doesn't sound like me No, just But imagine, okay, this part is over here Yeah, yeah Yeah So, yeah, and then once We had played some shows and shit

And by the time we were like getting ready to do the album We still, we were kind of like It was still kind of rushed Like We had like I'm too high to think of the timeline I know, but we had, like, we had a deadline, like, a rough deadline, and then we had to go on tour, so I had to, like, finish writing it real quick.

So it wasn't, we didn't get a chance to, like, collaborate on it too much, but I know at least, what, DTD? We, like, send them back and forth a little bit. And, like, your drums on them. Yeah. Yeah. We got as much in there as we could. Yeah.

I remember you just sent me a text one day. It was like, here's the album, LOL. my goodness. It's all done. Fuck yeah, dude. Let's go. Shout out Hunter and Brandon at Swamp Sound.

I made that shit sound really good. I love how that fucking album sounds. LPL. What do you want to call it? Yeah, the EP and LPO is like,

oh, I was like, like, who, who would worry this? Who mixed it? I was like, this sounds pretty sick. It's hard

to get a good mix. Yeah, yeah. We lucked out. I looked out both times. It was really, for the EP I knew I wanted to go to Togio

and it turned out pretty much how I wanted Yeah, sounded great And then I wanted it to be fatter And Body Box was a band by then And it happened So I went to Hunter And that's what we got

Yeah Hunter did Yeah he really did Great job him Brandon fucking Just fat They killed it It's everything It's everything I would want in a mix fucking EMG pickups, tuned loud as turned up loud as fuck.

Juicy. But just loud, I don't know, it's just loud. That fucking shit is just knocking, you know? I love that. But yeah, the guitar sounds like, it sounds humongous. Just d-dong-dun, you know? I love that. I love when a guitar low-key, like, fucks up a mix.

You know, I love that shit. Yeah, I love that shit. I'm trying to do that same thing for a while now. It's hard to do. It's hard. Trying to translate what you have in your head. trying to come out of two speakers like, man, it's pissing me off.

Right, right. But you guys are it. It's awesome. Thanks, man. Thank you. So tonight is the minute hour. I think tonight might be the first time I go there. I kept hearing about it. But it's just from the valley from Corona is... For sure.

Yeah. Especially after that record with Taylor, it's like, oh, that drive. I'm fucking tired of it. Oh, gosh. I bet. Traffic? No way, dude. No way. Yeah.

Get out to the Valley party drink with you Yeah Yeah, I'll be drinking Yeah, and this one, yeah Don't worry about that I'm super hyped tonight, yeah It's gonna be crazy I think it'll be the biggest show we've played in there for sure

Yeah, yeah, it's sold out It is, so For that today is sold out Mm-hmm And which means you can't run a ticket Go home Go home Man, that's just stacked

That is crazy. I'm broken wings. That takes me back. So weird. That takes me back. It really does. Yeah, it's gonna be a good one. Oh, don't show the cabs again.

Anyway, any closing thoughts? Shout out of everyone who rocks with us. You feel me? Yeah, shout out everyone who rocks with us. Fucking. Make sure you rep where you're from. Be proud of where you're from. Don't fucking dick write other people for clout or this and that.

Fuck that. Be yourself. Represent where the fuck you're from. Ride for your homies. You feel me? And don't switch up on people. That shit's lame. And just, yeah, just be you.

You're the coolest version of yourself when you're just you. Fuck them. F them. F them. Hikie. that was that was sick that's fucking beautiful

that thank you thanks for having the song yeah dude yeah yeah thank you so much your band is very

authentic and seen how you hang around together and actually what you just said it's pretty clear so cool I'm honored to have you

have your band here and I'm sorry if I put you in traffic right no no we're chilling but but thank you for making the drive thank you

yeah of course Thank you so much. Cool. All right, cool. All right. Everyone, that's it. Later.