Garza Podcast - 120

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

Garza & Ernie talk social anxiety, the Ross Robinson snare, failed Black Crown writing sessions & much more! SPONSORS: distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! emgpickups.com Promo Code: Heavy 15% OFF! CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Ernie Lasted 28 Days Sober, NAMM 2024 08:40 - Food Talk 13:32 - Ernie Breaking Edge (continued), Building Habits 16:50 - Sleep is Important 21:14 - Dabs Are Too Much 23:52 - Going Gray 25:27 - Favorite Part of NAMM 2024 31:06 - Experience & Maturity, Championing Newer Bands 34:05 - Ernie & Alex Lopez Hanging Out Together Confused People 36:20 - 2-Year Anniversary of Ernie Joining Suicide Silence 39:49 - Ernie’s Electronic Drum Kit Is a Great Writing Tool 43:03 - Ross Robinson, Best Drum Snares 48:32 - Staying Hydrated While Drinking, Avoiding Hangovers 51:15 - Fan Question: Favorite Black Crown Song to Play Live 54:30 - Fan Question: Garza & Ernie’s Favorite Songs to Play Live

So you broke a seal, which I expected. I did. I knew this going to happen, dude. I knew what you knew? You know, I'd be lying if I said I still wasn't proud of myself. I made it a whopping, hang on, what are we in? 28 days, dude. 20 days?

28 days, almost a full month. So was your goal, three days? Yeah, it was to do the month of January, and then pace myself out and not do the entire year, but like, you know, a special occasion, drink, like, weddings, birthdays, type of thing or whatever. Zandman. Is this a special case?

For us fucking musicians, dude, that's like a four-day fucking wedding slash birthday party slash homie hangout. That's really why people go to NAM, dude. You know what I mean? You know, the suits and ties, they go to fucking do business

and, you know, the... That side of things. You and I. I mean, you know, we go to conduct business too, but it's just an excuse to see all your friends in one place at the beginning of the year. I mean, that's kind of how I've always seen it, you know, because, you know, we have friends that are bands that live in other parts of the world, other states, you know. And it's like, and also this was like what I consider to be the first full scale nam back from COVID, which, you know, it still wasn't like in like full scale back, but it was for the most part, the most complete one since 2020.

Yeah, I was curious how it was going to turn out. Yeah. It was like, it's probably not going to be insanely packed, but I know people are going to be watching. and see what the turnout's going to be. You know? It was good turn out. It was nice. It was.

Somebody said to me Thursday, Thursday, they were like, we actually saw more people Thursday than we expected. So we were like, oh, we kind of weren't planning on that. And then, you know, we were there Friday. And then yesterday was nuts. Really? It was fucking crazy. Like, uh, oh, we were, we saw we were walking past like Petruci doing the signing and stuff like that. Oh, we almost fucking ran into.

The guard was like, oh, where are you going? You got to go the other way. I'm like, oh, my bad. like, wait, what I take? Oh, wait, fucking John, John Steinney right now. What up, dude? Ripper. But yeah, it's pretty cool.

It felt almost 100% normal again. Like, you know, people are walking around, coughing on each other, fucking breathing each other's gross air. I'm like, damn, NAM's back, baby. I think next year it'll be full-on chaos worse than this one. You know what I mean? This was the warm-up to it. I really feel almost like, you can't beat at the in-person stuff.

I'm just real. I was like, I know a lot of companies. weren't there. But I was like, if they find out how many people actually went and they see it's coming back now, I'm really curious about next year.

That's what I'm saying. I think next year will be full-fledged. Like, really. There was definitely some, some sorely missed companies for sure. But, you know, I also understand that because things are still kind of, I don't want to say,

like, reeling over from COVID, but like, a lot of company, a lot of big companies have found that they probably don't need to be there as, like, crucial. You know, because they have such a massive name or following. They can just be like, hey, we're going to release our products online for the world to see.

Sure. You have to worry about going in person and seeing anything. And shit, I didn't even know, dude. Like, I was looking forward to seeing Eric and Ziljan and Vic and being like, hey, you know, what's going on? It wasn't there. I was like, oh, shit, okay, cool, you know. But it was still a good time. I, you know, locked in some cool stuff.

I'm very excited for the rest of the year now, gear-wise. And, you know, yeah, it was a good time. Great. Well, Ernie, this one's to you. Dude. So you almost made it 30 days. The old college try. 28 days.

20 days. And you broke the seal at 28. I did. I think you did a good job. And to be honest, it's not a diss to you. It is. But you did it better than I thought you're going to be. I'll give him like two weeks.

I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Dude, honestly, I did better than I thought I was going to do. I thought I was going to fucking blow it. Ooh. Yeah. Okay, question is now, are you going to make it happen now? Are you going to drink less?

Oh, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. And that's the thing, too. Like, I'm... Stay away from me then. You know, the nice thing is, the nice thing is you're the beer guy, though. So that's why I don't have to, because I don't like beer. So I don't have to worry about it.

You know what I mean? Like, you can go out have a beer and I'll get an iced tea and I'm like, I'm fine. Sure. You know, like, if you do Korean barbecue, everyone's getting Asahi. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll get iced tea. You know, that shit doesn't bother me. It's, it is very much the environment and your surroundings for sure. It is.

It is. Like the cats that I was hanging with yesterday lent themselves to party. I knew it was going to happen, right? We got in the car, got to Nam, and I was like, okay. What was the first drink? I had a very large shot of Crystal Palace vodka, which is like a $4 bottle of vodka. It's just, it's rubbing alcohol. Oh, yeah.

Not as bad as you would think, though, for a value brand of plastic bottle vodka, I've had shittier tasting, expensive vodka. Man, I would, like, do something, like, a little bit more enjoyable. Like, hey, they'd have a nice drink and I enjoy this. Said you took a large shot. You couldn't really enjoy it. Oh, I enjoyed it. I mean.

When you don't drink for a while and you have the first one, like, there is a nice feeling to it. Yeah. You're like, whoa. Oh, I forgot what this is like that. Is that it right there? That's the the one right there. I never seen that bottle of my life. You know why?

Because you never look that far down at the shelf because that's where that kind of liquor is sitting at, dude. That's why. Oh my gosh. But here's the thing. That is a hangover. That was you last night. Right? Yo, how did you find that picture of me so fast?

That's fucking crazy, dude. Is this tacky right here? What, the goose? Yeah. No way, do we got to get that goose endorsement, dude. Oh, my, okay. you're right okay we're trying to get something dude my gosh dude nothing's better than the goose you know maybe belvedere but they're made by the same people so you know um yeah uh

that's not a good one for its back man that's not that's such a drummer or bass player move it is you're right you're right also also though i guess like all joking aside i did i did kind of notice it that it like i'm fucking terrible i don't like public speaking and like as much as I am, you know, a drummer, you know, and yada, yada, yada, and you know, and I, and I talked to a lot of people. I noticed it for the first, like I said, two weeks ago when I went to the, um, the issues after party in L.A., that's the first time in a long time that I've been in a room with people completely sober and, like, trying to have a conversation, and I found it really difficult.

I was like, oh, shit. It was a little strange, dude. Like, it wasn't bad, but I was like, uh, it was a, like, it was the first time encountering people that I've normally encountered when I was either, you know, and I kind of noticed it was just more of like having a drink in my hand. Like it's a weird vice, but it's just like, oh, I feel a little more ease if, you know. Yeah, it's like, and I think it's a mental thing. I think that I actually don't need it there, but it's just like, it's like a safety blanket type of thing, which is really weird because I mean, I talk to fucking everyone. Like when we're on tour,

dude, I'm fucking, I'm the last person back on the bus. You're a social guy. Yeah. You know, but it's like, it's, it was a weird like situation to be and I was like, God, this is fuck. What am I supposed to say to this fucking person? Whoa. I'm having soda water with lime and I'm all bushy-eyed and sober, you know? So then I just wound up getting really stoned and then it was okay. But, like, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But, no, definitely, like, what it has done for me, and I'm glad you brought it up, like, yeah, it's definitely, like, made it okay that I know I can just have a drink once a month, you know, hang out with something. And, you know, I don't have to fucking party or get all fucked up or anything like that. We're getting older. Bodies don't heal the same fucking way.

And I don't like feeling that way either anyway to begin with. No. I tell everyone, everyone's like, you know, a lot of the guys in bands drink, you know, and all that stuff. You know, some of them drink on stage or whatever and all that stuff. Some people can just get fucking smashed before going on stage. As a drummer, playing death core, it's not happening. You can't do that kind of thing. You can't do that kind of thing and expect to have a good performance.

That's pretty much where I draw the line. Like, you know, we do our celebratory shot before walking on stage. That's it. That's the most I'll ever do. Like I'm like, I'm not trying to drink on stage. Yeah. Even remotely like, it just, I don't know. I know mentally it'll ruin my performance and then physically it'll probably affect it at some, at some level, you know?

Yeah. So I just, I like good old fashioned ice cold water, dude, on stage. Do you know, even that people that don't like water? Dude, the most refreshing thing ever is like ice cold, not like just cold water is ice cold water and you just chug it. Oh, dude, I just nothing like it. Dude, shout out Brandon Kagle, dude, in my wild. Whitechapel days, I think I saw Kagle drink water like twice, dude. That man lives on a glass bottle Coca-Cola.

Mexico, that's his shit, bro. On the rider. It's on the rider. He drinks Coca-Cola and eats Oreos and junk food, and he's still handsome. Dude, soda, I cannot fuck a soda, dude. Cannot fuck with soda. I think I don't drink soda either. You know, like...

Oh, dude, such a waste of... There's such a waste of calories. Yeah. Just fucking eat some pizza or eat... Okay, yes. Dude, as a fucking fellow fact... kid, bro, like, if you're gonna drink your fucking calories in a soda, have a fucking

cheeseburger, dude, like, at least that's, you know, but also, I know, I know people that are like soda fiends, that it's like, it's like crack, dude, they're like, oh yeah, no, like, I have to have you know, a Diet Coke, Dr. Pepper, you know, whatever. It's like, almost

like, like, cigarettes. Like, like, like, diet soda for some people is like smoking cigarettes. You know, oh yeah, you know, I'm a two pack a day kind of guy. I know people that'll tear through a fucking 18 pack of fucking Diet Coke in a day. Oh my. It's fucking crazy, dude.

You know? I don't know. I stopped drinking soda when I was like 17. And I'm also, I'm not a big sweets guy. And I think that's kind of why I just was, like, and admittedly it changed somewhere down the line. I used to, if you're from California or the West Coast, then you know what cactus cooler is.

Cactus cooler was my shit, bro. I used to be able to fucking tackle a two liter in like four or five minutes. Oh, I'm not even fucking kidding. Dude, on a hot day. Come home from school, dude. just pound a fucking 2 liter of cactus cooler. You know, then I turned 21 and started drinking cactus cooler with vodka, and it's a great fucking cocktail also.

And that's why you're a drummer. Exactly. Yeah. But yeah, I just kind of grew out of the soda thing. And it wasn't like, I didn't miss it. You know, I like fizzy water. Like, you know, we all do like fucking LaCroix. Yeah.

You know, I love that shit. People are like, why, it just tastes like fucking microwave static. I'm just like, I like it. That's good. You're always in your life. You're always choosing the less of the evils. Yeah. Okay, let's see you have a soda.

You have a soda here with no sugar. Correct. Just take the one with no sugar. Or if it's a drink or a food or you're always kind of, you're just trying to get through the day sometimes. Dude, the American diet, the Western diet is overwhelming. They give you too many options. And I think that's a problem sometimes,

which is why I love going to Europe. The food's better. it's healthier for you. Europe might be the only place you can go and eat McDonald's every day for a month and lose weight. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, their fast food out there is next level. Yeah.

It's not chock full of fucking crazy chemicals and shit, dude. Sure, it'll spoil faster if you leave it sitting overnight, but it won't fuck up your body. It's kind of nuts, dude. And listen, I'm a true testament to that. I'm not the thinnest person in the world, but every time that I've gone to Europe, I've lost weight. Not even changing the eating.

habit. Like, you know, I could, dude, I'll eat carbs over there. I'll have bread and cheese every fucking day and come home like nine, ten pounds lighter. And I'm like, I didn't do anything fucking different that I don't do here. Hmm. You know what I mean? So it's kind of, it's kind of fucking wild. But I've heard it from other people too. Stephen Sanchez is like, oh, bro, he's like, I get mad fucking skinny when I go to Europe. I'm like, I mean, he's already a twig. You know, but it's like, it's true. The food's better. You are talking about smaller portions. That too. That's you. Yeah, because the, the, the portions here, you know. Dude, they got the vegan chicken nuggets.

Say, Jake, can you type in McDonald's Europe vegan chicken nuggets? Oh, yeah. That's right. They were fucking sick. And they have the McPlant, dude. I'm not vegan. Boom. Right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were actually fucking good, too. You cannot fuck with those, dude. That's what I'm saying. Dude, Europe is really 10 for 10 for the traveling tour parties that got vegans. The Mcplant Nuggets? The Mcplant? The Mcplant?

Is that? No, the Mcplant is there. vegan burger. It's like a, it's like a quarter pounder, but it's a fucking vegan patty. And it's actually dope. Like, and I'm a fucking meat eater, bro. I'm not a vegan body means. And I forgot who was with us that got one when we ate fucking McDonald's 80 times a fucking day in Germany. If somebody ordered it, it might have been like, oh, who was with us in Europe the first? Was it Tom? Did Tom go with us? The first time we were in the band.

Yeah, in the Sprinter. Yeah. Yes. I think he got a McPlan. Like for shits and gigs. And it was fucking good. Oh, Mark, or Mark got one. Yeah. One of them got one. And I took a bite, I was like, damn, it's kind of fire. Oh. No, I would order it again, you know?

Dude, the order of these episodes, so the first one's going to come out. Yes. So, if you're listening and watching, you're listening to Ernie's saying, yeah, I'm not drinking for a month. And then the next one is, I broke the seal. You will. Not even a full month later, dude. No, I will give you credit. You are more disciplined than what I'm projecting to people listening to watch.

It just looks bad because we recorded that two weeks ago. And then we're dropping him back to back. But just no, it's just funny. He's like, guys, he's back on the sauce. Didn't even make it a full 30 days. I made it one week, boys. Let's celebrate with a drink. Well, dude, it takes, what, 21 days to build a habit.

Hey, Jake, can you type in how many days does it take to build a habit? days, 21. Or vice versa, or break a bad habit. Either or, I think it's 21 days. Yeah. Well, I saw some crazy number up there, dude. 66 days was required to form a habit with the range between 18 to 254 days.

That's a pretty fucking wide gap, dude. That gap does make any sense. Right? That's a really large, like, deficit in between, like, 18 to 254 days. You're like, you know what? I could take half a month to kill this habit or almost an entire year. People also ask, is it true that it takes 21 days to form a habit? Oh, it's a myth?

Okay, wait. So, however research has shown that the 21-day rule is a myth. In a study published in the European Journal of Social Psychology researchers found that it takes an average of 66 days for a new behavior to become a habit. Okay. And this is June 9, 2023. So that's pretty updated. That's pretty updated. So 66, that's two months.

Two months. Two months. Two months. Some change. Yeah. Okay. It makes sense. It's a myth.

Faw. That's the first time I heard that. It's kind of fucked up. Here's the thing. And maybe unpopular opinion. I think that's all just an individualistic choice. If you really want to fucking break a habit. I mean, you can break a habit in fucking a week if you want to.

You know? I've quit smoking weed, cold turkey, numerous fucking times. And it didn't have, like, weird side of it. effects or anything, I just stopped and just kind of kept it out of side of the mind, did miss it. You know what I mean? I think it's all up here. It's how strong you want it to be up here. If you tell yourself, hey, I'm going to do this, you know, for X, Y, Z reason, and you stick to it, you're fine. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I'll admit it. I gave in the peer pressure yesterday, dude. I was like, damn, the vibes are high. Everyone's having a fucking great time. I did. I gave in. That's not pure pressure.

It's like, hell, yeah. Don't, don't, don't bullshit. Everyone is watching. You're a shot. You're retired. You're around all your drummer buddies. You're all shot. Oh. And you're right. You took a dirty shot. A filthy shot, dude.

Not even a... Oh, my God, dude. When you, you took a break, it's the best when you have an enjoyable drink. And you ruined it. At the very least, at the end of the night, I redeemed it by having a really, really nice... Are you proud yourself? I mean... Look at you.

I'm awake. I'm not hung over. I'm fucking sprightly. Dude, I got up early. I'm running. When you wake up? Dude, I got up at like, like, fucking 7.30.

I've been up at 7.30. I've been away. 7.30. 7.30, dude. Okay. 7.30. What time do you pass up? Like, fucking 4.30.

Okay. I got three hours, dude. Look at me. I'm fucking great, dude. That's, that's debatable, right? That's debatable, yeah. Right? Right.

Okay. I feel fantastic. Okay. Maybe I don't look the greatest, but I feel fantastic. Also, one thing just in general about you that people may not know about you. You also just don't sleep in general. this is true for those of you watching in YouTube land. I'm, uh,

Gregus is sick. Right. I'm 37 years old, just turned 37 in November. And, uh, yeah, I've just always had, I was, I was born very early in the morning, like 5.30 in the morning. And I think, I feel like that has something to do with it. Just like my natural clock just lends itself to being up early. and you know I thought eventually at some point it would like catch up that I would eventually like get into this like habit of like okay if I go to sleep at a respectable hour I'll get a good amount of sleep. Dude I can yeah I don't sleep.

And that's no sleep with no drugs. No funny business. Just I can be up socializing till 4 o'clock in the morning take a three hour nap and then be good for another 24 hours. It just I don't know. I'm a drummer. I'm weird. That's all I'll chalk it up to you. I don't believe that.

I don't believe it. I think people say that they're good with no sleep, but I think the majority of us watch these motivational people, I'm like, oh, I could do that. I need 7, 8 hours. I definitely don't. You definitely do. I mean, yeah, like, should I be getting 7 to 8?

Probably. Do I? No. Now, now, here's, okay, I will admit, here's the thing. You get me fucking being a way. wake three or four days consecutively by the end of the week I'm going to disappear for the weekend you won't see me I'll lay in my bed just regenerate for all the time I was awake so yes but consecutively I mean it doesn't I guess ultimately what I'm trying to get it is that most people

our age you know in our fucking late 30s early food you know what they're not functioning on fucking four hours of sleep dude they're getting eight to 10 like to be like okay I'm still running on three or four. Dude, it's been a damn weekend, dude. I've pretty much been awake for three days now. Oh my God. And I'm still okay. Like, I, like, legitimately no joke, no bullshit, not trying to hide anything.

I feel fine. I feel fine. I'm not hung over. I'm not tired. I'm not lethargic. I haven't even eaten yet. I had an ice tea on the way in. Oh, that's so bad.

Well, I mean, we're going to have a nice dinner here in a little bit. Okay. I was saving it for dinner. Okay. See, I'm responsible. Okay. Give me a break, dude. I'm a month.

Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. All right. All right. But yeah, you know. If I did what you did, this band would not be here. I need sleep to fucking focus.

And how am I going to talk to these guys? How am I going to have patience with the fucking four psychos? This is very true. But you know it, though? Hey, Garza is my road dog. We are the two up always the earliest on tour. Yeah. It's me and this guy.

It's a battle. It is. Between 6.30 to 7 a.m. Who's going to get the coffee first, dude? Who's going to get up first? And the last one, I was up a lot. Yo, even earlier than before. Use EMG pickups because they help you get the heaviest tone possible.

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I started smoking weed heavily again on this tour. And so I was getting taking dabs to the face before going to bed and I was finally getting more than fucking four hours of sleeping night. I don't, I don't fuck with the dabs, dude. That shit is too much. It's kind of intense. Oh, no, dude. It's like, it's violently high. Okay.

Yes. Normally, yes. That little Puffco thing, you can, like, regulate how stone do you get because of the temperature, like, settings on it if that makes sense. Dude, weed smoking is high tech now, dude. Fucking, the future is now, old man. Like, what do it happen just to smoke a joint, dude? I mean, no, I still very much do that, too, of course. But, like.

Is that, like, is that boomer shit now? Oh. A joint? God, I don't want to admit it because we're there, but, I mean, kind of. Wow. Everyone's like, nah, dude, fucking future weed smoke. That is the thing, calm. Right there.

Dude, shout out. Shout out. We'll walk around. Constantly, dude. Colin and the puff co, bro. And it has, it attaches to your phone. And it has a fucking, dude, it has a counter on it. It tells you how many dabs you've hit out of it from the time you've powered it on.

It literally will tell you. So, like, if you fucking hit it, you know, 15 times in a day on the app, it'll tell you how many times you've smoked out of it throughout the day. Like, it's kind of wild. I think it needed a counter to tell you how many. time you took a dab and one day you have a problem I mean look at Colin dude but man he fucking skips us a sick light show in a vibe Colin is an absolute

G and a road dog for sure they make it look so elegant here with a female doing it well of course how do you think they sell a bunch of these dude those things are fucking 400 bucks a pop dude and they'd be selling like hotcakes dude no yeah no dude so uh I like

joints so that's I'm a boomer I would call you a casual smoker. I am casual. That's it. It's not a boomer thing. You just don't like getting fucking high every day like some people do. I don't like getting high every day, but we were on tour with Chelsea Grin and it kind of just fucking lent itself to that.

That was the weed smoking tour for sure. Brought me back to my high school roots. I was like, man. I'm back in high school. I'm getting stoned every day, laughing at everything, fucking shaking hands, kissing babies on the forehead at meat and greet, all that fun stuff. It's a good time. What's that weed that makes you? you positive.

Oh, you mean like strain-wise? Yeah, I smoke something on that. I was like, I just felt like love. Um, okay. Everything was like, I'm just laughing everything, but in like a nice way. I mean, honestly, like, it's always just been like Sativa or, uh, Indica. Indica's heavy, body high, sleepy time weed, like you smoke it before going to bed because it'll knock you out.

Sativa is like, it's like, I call it productive weed. Like you smoke it and like, it's like uplifting. You like, I want to go out and do stuff. You're like, oh, yeah. That's going to be mean, like, fucking. 10 years, dude, with the stress that you guys are giving me, I'm going great. I'm going great.

Where, dude? I got three strands right here. Oh, I got three. Brother, you're fine, dude. Look, a fun fact, you see this little shit right here, this thing going on right here? There's three long gray ones that just keep popping out. I just keep fucking plucking them out, and they just keep fucking showing back up, dude. It's the beginning of the end, dude.

Is it true when you pluck out gray hairs that and just grow back? No, but I thought it. The rumor is that we pluck a gray out to come out. It's true. I fucked up. I should have left it. I had one right here, like a month ago. And I was trimming my fucking, well, you know, I had to attend my grandma's funeral this past weekend.

And so, you know, I was, I cleaned up and, like, lined up my beard and trimmed some of the shit down. And I was in the mirror, like, like, really, like, you know, fine detailing it out. And I had plucked one silver one out, like, a month and a half ago. got in the mirror and there was three, the one that I plucked out and then fucking two more, dude, like directly to the right of it. I was like, you got to be fucking kidding me. So I freaked out and like an asshole, I plucked them out, all three of them. So now I'm going to get fucking six now, dude. I'm just going to leave it alone. I'm just going to start trimming them and not actually plucking them out. I believe that folklore, dude, it's real.

You know, but I will continue to dye my hair and keep this lovely a, whatever they call it, a guy lights, male ombre that I got going on. here. Brace do look sexy. You know? It looks good under stage lights

when my hair's wet and I'm windmilling it looks good. Cool. What's your favorite part about NAM? Because people

only hear about it you know. Honestly, well A, getting to hang with all your friends that you don't see very often because of

touring schedules and personal lives being in the way and all that stuff that's always the most fun you get it's like it's, it is like a big

school reunion for all the touring homies to be in one spot at one time. That's always like the biggest positive for me. And then right after that it's, you know, making new business partnerships, you know, checking out new gear, you know, catching up with your endorsers and all that stuff, seeing the new product and all that stuff. It's always, it's just, you know, if you're not a musician and you're not like in that field, it probably sounds like I'm speaking a fucking foreign language to you.

But when you're there, it's very like. Oh, Sterling, thanks, dude. Holy shit. Appreciate it. That's what I'm talking. about, man. Sterling drives trucks in Vegas. Yeah, I know Sterling. That's the boy right there, dude. Cool, thank you. Shout out Vegas, dude. He was at the

Lamagotcha. What was I saying? Oh, NAM can also be really overwhelming. Like, just the amount of, like, it's a very, like, an attack on the senses. It is. And, dude, it has overload, big time. Audio, visual,

emotions, yeah. Excite. The whole night. Dude. So I was I was telling when we went to get our badges or whatever and walk up, you know how you get your badge down at the bottom floor this year because they're not using the bottom floor? They were the top floor.

Well, yeah, yeah, but normally they use the bottom floor too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's where they were using to get your badges at, like your check-in. Dude, we walked in. It was me, Nick, Lou, and Mel, we all got our badges and went up when I was like, hey, where you at?

And then I ended up running into you right then and there. Dude, like two seconds before you walked up on us, I got to the top of the escalator and, like, the sound got louder. and louder and louder and louder. And as soon as I was on the main floor, my entire left arm went completely numb. And I started having a panic attack.

I was like, holy shit. Why? Because I hadn't been around it in so long. It was just like an instant attack on my senses. And I kind of stood there for a second. It just did like one of these, like shook it off real quick. Nick was like, okay? And I was like, yeah, yeah, like I'm good.

And then you popped up. And I was like, all right, there. I saw you. And I was like, all right, I feel better. It was weird. It was weird. I was like, holy shit. That hasn't happened in a long time.

Like just being around this, like, and you saw it. We went over to get a fucking, like where the bar and the drinks and the food was at. Yeah. And you were just like, God, you hate this shit. There's so many drugs. It's so loud. Because we got our first drink. First, I was, I kind of popped in it out.

I had two drinks that day. We got the beer in the drum section. Yes. It's a fucking nightmare. Yeah. Kind of an inopportune place to put the bar. It's like you want people to hang out here and spend money on booze. They're not going to want to hang out with all these fucking kids just making a racket.

And that's coming from a drummer that love. loves being annoying. Like, even I was like, God, is this what it's like to be on tour with me? You know, trying to tune the guitars and I'm sitting back there fucking wanking. Fucking, you know? And it kind of is, but it's like times 30 because there's like, it's also crazy. I remember when Nam made the switch to where like they made it like open to the public. Like you could register and come in as a, you know, as an exhibit or whatever have you. And like, there are so many kids walking around Nam now. Like, you know, whether it's like musicians that bring their kids

or like, you know, their teenage kids and their friends walking around. And everyone is just wanking, dude, like just hitting all the instruments making a fucking racket. Like, they have the NAM sound police. That's probably the most hilarious. I saw someone do that.

The sound police, dude. They come over and stop you and just fucking embarrass you. They're like... Were you there? Oh, I've seen it happen multiple times. We were, uh... I don't know if you were whipping yet. I think we just got the beers and there was someone

right by the bar that was he was this one of those guys He used to know as a sick drummer And he sat down And started to do like this groove And I One of those like soul drummers Like just started doing some sick shit

And right when he hit like the You can see in his face He went somewhere else He was viving He was like he hit the beat Yeah And this fucking dude He just walks his like

And he walks him like Yeah Damn Like these guys got no chill They're like hey Shut it down Fuck honestly, don't go in there and start playing drums as loud as you can.

Yeah, you know, I'm biased because I'm a drummer and I see cool gear and I want to hit shit and see what it's a butt. Yeah, ultimately, yeah. It's a fine line, you know, they want you to walk up and look at the gear and, you know, maybe tap it with a stick, see how it sounds. And I know these, dude, these NAM sound police, these guys are like waiting in the fucking corners like Cockrocious. That's what I'm saying. They just wait. He came out of nowhere. As soon as they see someone's butt touch a drum seat and sit down, they're like,

Red team go go get them And they just fucking shut it down dude Quick You know It was pretty fucking quick Oh yeah dude It's crazy how we're not We're not designed to be around that many people

No We're not No What's weird So I keep saying it I'm 30 years old And it's just weird Being

comfortable In those situations now When my whole life I wasn't It's so weird Yeah It's the classic case of being desensitized. Going all the shows

we've been going to, talking to all these bands and people, meeting people constantly. The gym. I mean, you name it. Boring stuff I don't want to talk about. Like, gym, books, whatever. I'm wondering how to be calm. Like, damn, I was like, that was a big moment for me on

Friday, just walking in. I'm like, this is different. I feel different. Yeah. Totally. I was like, wow, I'm just not a big deal. I'm calm. There's no anxiety. I don't have to drink. walking around and chilling. It was like, damn, that was like, it's just because all your work, this seems

pointless until like you kind of have like these moments. Yes. I was like, damn. I'm walking around now. I don't give you shit. Yeah. Now, I'm the guy, I'm the old guy making other people in bands feel comfortable. Yeah. It was crazy. I did that.

I walked up to I won't say your names, but a few bands in our genre. Yeah. I'll say that. And I was just saying, I walked up and you know i'm like damn i'm like i'm like the old guy the old i'm like the elder were the elder statesman right like walking up to like like like the younger bands probably their first nam i'm like damn i'm like i'm like i'm asking questions to get a more comfortable and present in the moment yeah it was a trip my but damn though what am i doing

it was a it was really cool man i was like uh like it shows that you you could truly change not being fake but change to you who you are Absolutely. It goes back to wanting to, man. And sure. So a lot of the times it's, it's, it just kind of comes along with age and experience and like a natural, you know, progression of yourself. But, uh, yeah, I mean, having having the urge and want to be like, hey, you know what, I want to change. I want to be better. I want to fucking do things differently, you know, get gained different perspective, which is another awesome thing about having the kind of career that we have, being able to do what we do for a living. You get the rare opportunity to travel around the globe, around this. fucking spinning rock and see how other people live and gain other perspectives

of how things are in other places where people, you know, maybe aren't as fortunate or have things as easy as we have it here. You know, like, I mean, yeah, this is being a touring musician has really given me the rare

opportunity to like be even more humble and more grateful. Like, you know, because everyone's guilty of it. You start getting complacent, you start getting fucking fussy about shit. And you start getting jaded or complaining about shit. Then you go somewhere and you travel somewhere and you're like, fuck, man.

I thought I had it fucking bad and I'm over here complaining about my situation. There's people that don't have clean fucking drinking water, dude. That's crazy. All the time. Like basic human needs. All the time. So it's like, you come back home and you're like, damn, bro, I'll never talk shit about my fucking toilet seat again or my shitty bed frame or whatever. It's like, bro, I could be living in a fucking box or not have a roof over your fucking

head, dude. It's kind of wild. It's kind of wild. But I'm very like stoked that that's also the kind of perspective. I get out of doing what we do. It's not just, hey, we get to travel around the world and look fucking cool on stage for an hour. That's the fun part for sure.

But it's like, you know, taking in everything as a whole. It's a very badass opportunity to get to be able to do that kind of shit. God, dude, we are getting old. Dude, so that was my, probably one of the only questions I have for you is that, so you don't, we're not a name drop. You're hanging out with a lot of cool drummers, cool bands. you're in a circle I just feel for you that you're like

the worst drummer in that circle you know dude feels bad man feels really bad I mean what's up what's up man what's up dude

I was curious you know it's not too bad but dude I mean listen also okay so this is a quick little quick little nugget from yesterday

yeah I can't tell you how many people had the most, I don't want to say awkward encounter, but people that just didn't know. Me and Alex Lopez hung out for like an hour yesterday at fucking damn, like together. And we're like walking around. And people would be like, oh shit, hey, like, what's up? And, you know, people that might have not known Alex that well or might not know me that well.

Sure. And Alex is like, oh, hey, what's going on? Yeah, my Alex, this is there. And he plays drums and suicide sounds now. And people were just like so like, what? Like the fucking faces And then the faces of people that The faces of people that did know

That the Switch happened And saw us walking around Hanging out fucking laughing together We're like Those guys are friends Yeah Like what the fuck They're supposed to be beefing

Yeah and it's like for what Dude it's weird that people want to see that shit And it's like dude no we're good You know what I mean It was really hilarious Like it was you could just You could walk past people And see them being like

Those guys are friends with each other It's like yeah bro Our birthdays are a day apart We've known each other for like 15 fucking years. Yeah, what's weird about it? Like, he's in a different band now and I'm in his old band, whatever. Like, we can laugh about that shit. But people are like, I wonder if they're beefing.

Totally. We hang on in person just to beef. Yeah, literally. We made sure we were going to hang out at the same time just so we can fucking make people scratch their heads. But yeah, like, that was actually really hilarious. That was a good time yesterday. Also, check this out. I was reminded this morning.

Mm-hmm. Tomorrow's officially two years since you called me and said, hey, you want to have lunch? Oh, it's tomorrow? It's tomorrow, man. Oh, shit. Tomorrow is two years, 24 months since this handsome man across the table from me asked me to come down and quit playing my drums like a bitch and hit harder. Yeah. Here we are.

Santa Ana, dude, this city has a lot of history, especially for me. I had a, I would drive up here as a kid to hang out with my grandparents because this, That's right. Because they were here. It's being a kid that's just the one place you always go to, uh, when Suisse Sons was in group therapy, it was on the street,

4th Street. Oh, yeah. So we're out like, so right, right when Eddie joined the band, just driving on 4th Street, I always drive past that,

that big old building and I'm like, damn, there, shit, there it is. That's fucking crazy too. I didn't know that either. I'm calling you and hanging out around here. Like,

this is such, there's something about, I don't know what it is about this area, Santa and in Orange County. I don't know. There's history here, dude. It's a lot. It's history.

It's a lot of history. I mean, obviously, the studios in Santa Ana. Yeah. I don't know. There's a lot of... I believe in, like, the universe lining shit up in a lot of ways. Because, I mean, same thing, too. When I moved back from Salt Lake City,

initially the plan was for me to live in L.A., like proper. Like, I was going to live in, like, fucking West Hollywood. And we went looking... Terrible idea. Oh, no, no, no. Trust me when I tell you. It wasn't all my idea. There was other...

Oh, and I got... Yeah. You know what I mean? Which was fine. I was like, hey, you know, as a together decision, I was like, sure, maybe we can find... Sure, I like you. Kind of. Yeah, you know what I mean?

But it was just such a fucking crap shit, dude. Everything was super overpriced. And because, well, she or her job paid her in cash, and I got paid in cash. We had no work credit. So they were like, yeah, you don't have bad credit. You just don't have any credit. So we can't approve you for any of these fucking places. Yeah.

And somehow wound up here in Orange. staying with a friend at his place until I had enough work credit to get my own place. I never wanted to live here. I was like content with like moving back to like Whittier or Santa Fe Springs. Moved here, thought I was going to hate it. Ended up loving it. And I've been here since fucking 2018. And I can't even imagine what it would have been like.

Yeah. If I had, five, six years. Yep. If I had joined the band and been living in fucking L.A. or West Hollywood and having to commute from there to Corona. I guarantee it probably wouldn't have even worked out as well as it fucking did, you know what I mean? I feel like it would have cost some sort of issue, you know? But

here we are, you know? And tomorrow will be two years. It's crazy. That shit flew by. That shit flew by. Fucking by, dude. Holy crap. Yeah. Wild. Wild as hell. Well, just you know tomorrow you're getting a phone call from me and saying that you're

out. That's how we're going to celebrate. I'm going to be like, who's playing drums now? They're like, oh, dude, Macbook, dude. Macbook Pro's got it all handled, dude. Dude, some bad after doing that, I mean, more, I guess, more power to them. I don't know. Do I got to give back the E-Kit? I mean, I could fucking play drums at that point. It's real easy to blast beat on that thing. It's sick.

It's sick or what? That drum kit plays itself, dude. Nice. You could be relatively shot, and it'll make you sound good. Wow. So if you're sick like me, then you're real sick when you play. Is the E-Kit helping you, you think? Absolutely.

Dude, this is not like an exaggeration. Is it making it works? Definitely not. For all you lucky drummers out there that have a house or a studio or a garage that you can play your actual acoustic drums in, I'm very jealous of you. I'm very jealous of you. You know, I live in Southern California where rent is not inexpensive by any stretch of the the imagination. Oh, sucks ass.

I live in a condo. I'm very fortunate. My place is very nice, but I do share a wall with the adjoining building. And so I don't think my neighbors would take too likely to me playing an acoustic kit, and there'd be very loud. So I have not been able to practice consistently well in almost two years now because when I joined the band, I moved all my gear down in Corona to the garage. And so all I've had is, you know, I've had a practice pad at the house and stuff like that. But it's, you know, it's not the same. You're not able to, like, hash out.

ideas and practice songs and stuff like that without a full kit. And so, you know, uh, we were able to finally, uh, lock in an electronic drum set this past month. And as this is fucking crazy, dude, I have played more drums in the last two weeks on my own than I have in probably like a year, which is really badass. And it's sick. I can like, you know, if I'm at, if I'm at my mom's like helping her out with my grandma and stuff like that, I can come home late at night, dude. I literally, I played the entire Black Crown record the other day at like 11 at night.

And not a single fucking person was bothered or annoyed. I put on headphones and just fucking ripped. And it's got like this, uh, it has Bluetooth on it. So I don't have to connect a cable or anything. It'll just pick up the audio from your phone or device right through your headphones with the drum set mix behind it.

And you just, you have on the actual module like knobs where you can level the audio to your drum kit volume. And you can record it on the module and then air drop it to your computer, your device, whatever. So this is actually, it's really sick.

Like, I'm, I've never like, sorry about it. I'm playing footsies with you, dude. Did you kick me? Well, I was playing footsies with you, dog. What's up, dude? What the fuck you doing, man? What do you do on, man? Don't get me a hug or what, dude?

What the fuck you do, man? Just kiss me already, dude. Okay. All right. But no, it's been really, really, for real beneficial. Like, I got up this morning, dude. and just, I sat in my fucking boxes in the t-shirt and fucking just started ripping that like fucking 8 o'clock 830. Wow.

It's badass, dude. It's so sick. You just put on headphones and the kit that I've already put together and dialed is so sick. Like, it sounds incredible. And it makes it enjoyable to play because it sounds good. It feels good. It's obviously much more closer to an actual drum set, the model that I have anyway. So it's really nice.

Like, it's inspiring to have a tool to make you want to fucking get up and jam and like, you know, There will never be a replacement for playing your own acoustic drums, for sure. But this is absolutely a close second, and I'm already having a blast. Like, I've just been, like, just shedding. And, like, my playing is already getting stronger, and it's only been like two weeks. So it's pretty sick. I'm very stoked that we were able to get that fucking locked in. What's the snare that you end up going with?

It's a, it's a, it's a, well, so in the module, you select what it is. Oh, okay. I got you, dog. Okay. We are using a pearl 3 by 13 Brass Piccolo, baby Oh dude

The Soulfly snare The one from the self-titled album Jay The Roy Mayorg snare Go to Ross Robinson's Instagram He posted this yesterday Oh no dude

Is it a gem It might be the same snare That you're talking about It might be If it is It's because I'm fucking sick Dude It might be the same one

So I didn't know until Ross posted this picture that there's Bell brass Pickle those snares. I don't know. Oh yeah. Until he posted the picture,

I was like, oh shit, dude. Ross Robinson. Can't fuck with that guy, dude. There it is. Let me see, click that thing. Oh, okay, no. What is that? That is a limited edition

Toma Bronze Snare. and it's actually, yeah, from Drum Station. The actual, that shell is an odd size. It's like, it's a 4 by 14. So it's like a power piccolo. It's in between a standard. Power picel? Yes, it's in between a standard size.

A pee pee? Yeah, the pee. I put a comment right there. Dude, yeah, yeah, exactly. You see it right there? A very rare producer's snare sample pet. Yes. Yes. That's a sick-ass fucking snare, dude.

Dude, text them right now. Be like, hey, do you want to sell that to my drummer? he'll buy it. Okay, so a very rare producers snare. Yeah. That's a gym. That's a sick-ass fucking snare. Okay. Yes. So that's not the one that I have. It's in the kit. But the same, the exact snare

that Roy used to record the self-titled Soulfly album. Dang. It's the snare that I've dialed into that electronic kit. Wow. That's a 3 by 13 brass piccolo. Sick as fuck. The first one? The first one. Okay. Hey, Jake, can you go on YouTube, uh, type in

Soul Fly Eye for an Eye And let's play for only five seconds So we don't get pulled People need to hear And crank I want that speaker loud as fuck I'm treating a great

Greygoose so I want I want to hear Let's crank it Dude People need to hear the snare So the intro is like 13 seconds Yeah before it kicks in

Yeah Listen to that fucking thing dude That's a That's violent dude And that's a piccolo That's fucking violent. And even crazier, Roy still has the snare. He posted a video of him playing it earlier last year.

He's like, broke this out of storage, and he gave the whole backstory. Oh, he put it up, and then Alex put up a cover of him playing No Hope, No Fear. Oh, yeah, yeah. With the snare tuned exactly like Roy. It sounds insane, dude. Yeah. I'm telling you, dude, kids are going to be real fucking scared when we start working on any music, dude. I can't give away too much, but.

Gosh, dude. We're coming for the kids, dude. Yeah, so Roy posted a picture of the Sanarang Game, it gave the whole backstory. Yes. I love what people do that. It's awesome. It's so fucking cool.

What the hell is that? That's the Bell, Ross. That's the good old, that's the OG. The Terminator. Yeah, that's the Terminator. That's not the Piccolo. Yeah. Even this morning, once Ross posted that picture, it got me thinking, like, man, what did David use?

And there was a... Yeah, a multitude. of different snares. David David might be one of the guys that was like he really was also like he also used a lot of wood

wooden snares. I've never been a wood snare guy. I've always been like a metal shell. Copper, brass, aluminum. I love them all. Now, not to say that I mean, I do, I have owned wood snares. You get that brass stick, dude.

Stirty. Yeah. Stirty, dense. You know what I mean? Solid. It's a good foundation. It's a good foundation, dude. Yeah. Damn, I can't believe Ross has that snare.

That's a fucking sick one, dude. That's a dope one. So that just came out or what? No. So that company, a drum station or whatever, it's a drum shop somewhere. I don't know where they're based out of. They're in the States, maybe. But, like, Tama made them, like, five or ten units as a collab type of thing, like, with the name drum station on the badge and all that shit.

Oh, shit. And they were only made in that size for, like, a few months type of thing. thing. So it is essentially a rare find. But they do exist. They are floating around. I uh, yeah, man. I don't know, do we find, but we got it locked in.

I got the piccolo. I have a piccolo, dude. How do you think it sounds? Like the fucking best thing ever, dude. If you're playing it. It's a problem. I mean, all that means is that it's going to sound even better. If I play it? If you play it? I don't know. I feel like your rim shots are kind of weak, dude. I don't know.

I'll fuck. Dude, if I practice for one day, I'm already there, dude. He does have the signature guards of blast, dude. We'll bring the kit in here, and we're going to do it live on the air, and you can watch him fucking... Do one beat, I got one blast. He said I got one in the chamber, dude, that's all. That's it. How hung over are you?

You're all right? I'm good. I'm chilling, dude. Like, I feel nice. You know, boys and girls always hydrate. That's the ticket. even in my seal breaking yesterday

and you know inevitably parting with the gang I still had the good mind to always get a bottle of water every two cocktails it's a 16 ounce bottle of water it'll keep things running

smoothly you know don't ever underestimate water don't ever do that you need it to survive dude the human body is crazy and I know it can do a lot of incredible things

even when you like push it to its limits but water is one of those things you just don't want to be without dude I've seen the effects of not drinking water and they're never good unfortunately what makes you what makes you what makes the hangover non-existent is terrible for you is when you eat late at night

Yep That's a good It's a good cure for the morning But it is but it's yeah But you had pizza at 2 a.m. Where beating cheese burrito Like I do at 1 a.m. And that could be a big issue

I mean Not when you're buff like you are though Dude like you truly have trained your body To metabolize beans and cheese and tortillas Into fucking like Bicep muscles This pure spiritual foundation Guys, this is fucking, you're the only guy I know that eats chocolate chip cookies at 2 a.m.

And gets more handsome and buff, dude. Oh, my gosh. I do weigh more than I ever have in a long time. But it's different now because back then I weighed 170, but it was like, I didn't work out at all. Now it's like... No fucking way you ever weighed 170. Seriously? 170 was bad. And then now I'm 164, but it's different now.

You're like a healthy 164 though because like... Now, now I'm like, there's... You're killing it. It's all muscle. It's a lot of muscle, dude. That's a lot of... It's a lot of obvious... Dude, someone left donuts here the other day. So, one of the bands, I think it was Nervosa.

I saw a donuts on the fucking table. I was like, damn, I'm fucking crushing that box right now, dude. Oh, shit. Where were they good donuts? Yeah, the hostess chocolate ones that... Oh, oh, like the little fucking... They're Mickey's super focused. Well, sick, not a bad live.

I think we're good. Yeah? Damn, did we burn through an hour already? That was fucking quick. I think we're at 50. Maybe we'd ask, if anyone wants to shoot a question, we're just going to... Yeah, let's take a question it to real quick. Be chilling.

So just so everyone knows, Ernie didn't have to do this. I really hit you up yesterday. You want to come down? I'm always down to get on here. Appreciate that, man. We just make funny faces at each other and look at the kids. The kids are chilling, dude. Holy shit.

Anything in there? I'm not gonna read it. I'm scared. Oh, there's fucking slaves to substance all day long, dude. Favorite black crowns slown the place. Slaves of substance. Also, crazy way to open a record. Just fucking bam, bam, bam, bam.

Like, how are you gonna be mad about that? I think that's probably the only, we wrote two riffs when we were in Big Bear, and that was one of them. Oh, shit, really? Brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum. Yeah, the rest was. Hands down, like, without question, on the black crown, slaves of substance and then

it's one that we don't play live and mostly probably because of the guitar tuning but dude witness the addiction I like that song it's a great song it's a fucking it's groove have you hit the version with the Mitch on it

it's sick wait what do you mean because you know what John's John sings the chorus but oh there's a version with Mitch singing yeah because we didn't know oh if he was going to do it or not Yeah, yeah, we didn't know

Damn Everyone sits at the volume as low, but fuck it Anyway, Dude, yeah, I mean, we wrote two riffs And And drank six, six to seven Handel's a vodka So that's why the black crown is a sick as easy

We drank more handles of vodka Then we did write rips up there And we were up there for a fucking month We like, oh, we like got it good away it was snowing too Yeah I remember the videos I know you know there's videos out there in a story But we probably wrote

Two to three riffs And we For sure 100% For sure We drank more handles a vodka Than me wrote riffs Total Total

What a time to be alive dude We're fucking sure But sometimes you I get it You gotta fucking Try ideas And Yeah

And ultimately You can look back at that time Fondly And be like damn That was wild and you still turned out a wild album. You know what I mean? It's pretty shocking and their record came out that well.

I don't, it's really fucking tough. Yeah. I'm very surprised. But you know what though? I also kind of feel like obviously processes and writing sessions stuff like that the older you get, time changes and you know priorities change and all that stuff.

I'm still real stoked that even being a part of the band now, it's like our writing process is pretty organic and sick. Like, I love that we get in the room together and just fucking spill spill it out. You know what I mean? I feel like it's the sickest way to write it. Still there. Sterling, last question.

Then we're going to wrap the shit up. Garza, what is your overall favorite song to play? It still changes. It changes. It might be, it might be unanswered. The fucking good old classic.

It might be unanswered. and no pity. That's where my brain's going. Those are two very sick songs, especially live. Yeah, this is some parts where this just feels good to fucking head bang too. Like the end of no pity, you just know the energy is really high.

Obviously, the end of unanswered, like the... Any kind of like groove like that, it just feels really good to play and when we're all on fire. It's just like, fuck. You just kind of just take... You kind of just go to that place again. It's crazy.

Yeah. You know which one did it for me on this tour was lifted, dude. I looked at sick. I'm glad we put that in the fucking set. That shit is... That's a fucking Ripper Live, dude. Especially for drums. That's a very drum song.

Lots of Tom. Lots of Tom. Shout out Alex. Those are... They're really easy, fun, fills to play, and they're in there so much, but it really makes the song, I think. Yep. Well, yeah, shit.

That's it. Cool. Another one in the books, dude. So yeah, this is coming out. Literally, we're going to be out in Europe somewhere with Lionheart. Oh, that's right. Check out the dates.

Lionheart, Clubicon, Pilface. Literally, as you're watching, listening to this, we're out there. We'll be out there doing that, yeah. And Ernie didn't have to do this, but just so you all have something to watch and listen to, we...

I'm always down. Fucking hungover. We're about to have our first ever podcast meeting today. And Ernie, our team, Jay, Zach, our manager, Mal, and my lady is also coming out. It's going to be a big family. And I also barely got here.

My car broke down on the freeway. Oh, shit. Yeah. We're going to talk about this in a second. Yeah, holy shit. So that's a whole story that I'll talk about on the next one, but I was on a side of the freeway, on an off ramp, the worst part. On that note, dude, cheers to fucking cars breaking down, dude, fucking.

Cheers to you. Cheers to, also, real quick. Things, when things like that happened to you, It's like fuck, why, like, why does this happen? This shit fucking sucks, but it could always be worse. Exactly. It's like my car happened to start again and it was a drive out. And like, but it could have been, the car witness maybe couldn't have started at all.

Maybe like if I got out of my car to check the engine, someone could hit me. Yeah, that was fucking wild. It's a thought like, wait, here all the time. Like a shit. Like, like it could always be worse. Kind of way. So obviously it was best case scenario. Got back on the road in 10 minutes.

It's kind of give the engine some time to, uh, to breathe a little bit. So barely got here, but we don't give a fuck. There's no excuse. We're getting it done. We're fucking getting it done, dude. Anyway, Ernie, love you.

Cheers. Cheers. Cheers to you breaking a seal. I don't appreciate you playing foots to you with me during a podcast anyway. You love it. All right, one, that's it. Later.